Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - Built on Biohacking: Joseph Rivera and the MoreLife Movement

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

When chasing success costs you your health, it’s time to biohack your way back to balance. Joseph Rivera—founder of the MoreLife Biohacking Summit—joins Shawn French on The Determined Society to talk about redefining success through wellness, mindset, and faith. What started as a personal search for health and meaning has evolved into one of the nation’s fastest-growing health and performance events, featuring names like Gary Brecka, Tito Ortiz, and Lara Trump. In this episode, Joseph and Shawn dive deep into: -Why true wealth begins with health -How chasing success can cost your soul if you’re not careful -The movement behind the MoreLife Biohacking Summit -The power of community, accountability, and faith-based recovery -The daily practices that rewire focus, energy, and purpose Joseph opens up about losing himself in the pursuit of achievement—and the moment he realized transformation starts on the inside. This conversation hits on discipline, identity, and the courage to reclaim control of your mind, body, and spirit. The MoreLife Biohacking Summit takes place October 11–12 at Sea Table Convention Center, Florida—featuring 50 vendors, immersive health tech, and an all-star speaker lineup. Connect with me : https://link.me/theshawnfrench?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaY2s9TipS1cPaEZZ9h692pnV-rlsO-lzvK6LSFGtkKZ53WvtCAYTKY7lmQ_aem_OY08g381oa759QqTr7iPGA Joseph Rivera https://www.instagram.com/josephriverax/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Message privately with everyone. Learn more at WhatsApp.com. I was someone who was a scroller at night. I would scroll and scroll in YouTube shorts. And one of the biggest, I would say shifts has just been literally taking my phone out of the bedroom. I don't even charge it in the room anymore. When you go on your Instagram, what do you see? You see Ferraris, Lambo's, you see this part, you see big chains, you see all of these things.

And at some point subconsciously, that can affect the way you're looking at. Like, man, I'm not doing enough. You know, anyone can be influenced by what's out there. The way that the algorithms are not working is before, you know, you would follow somebody and then you would start to see their content. Now they're bringing the content to you based on your personality. It's getting so sharp. It's almost like a casino game. How can I keep this person on our platform for as long as possible?

Open it out of habit. Now you're there 15 minutes. That just affected your mood. Damn, I didn't even realize that this is starting to have power and control over how I'm behaving. Hey, so we're here my man, Joseph Rivera. He is the founder of More Life Biohacking Summit. You got something coming up this weekend, October 11th and 12th, big names. You got Gary Breck, a keynote in the dang thing.

You got Laura Trump coming in, which is actually her birthday this weekend. And then, of course, who could forget, Hall of Fame, Tito Ortiz, man. Tell me about it. No, absolutely. It's definitely, you know, one of those things where, you know, I'm sure you've heard thought becomes things. Mm-hmm. Right. And this was planted in my mind beginning of the year, specifically with the lineup. But from, you know, just all of the things that's taken place, I think we're in a time right now where there's no more gatekeeping, right? You give an example like social media. You give an example like podcasts, which you have here. You know, before it was three channels. If you listen to our parents, right? They had to turn it. And they only had access to what was being shown. And, you know, we're living in a time. where everything is at our hands.

It's, you know, it's something where we can start to take our lives, our health, and the information that we're receiving back into our own hands. And the purpose of the summit, you know, we're partnered with quite a few exhibitors. And these are companies, you know, you've got to think about it. They spend years researching, developing, trying to get FDA approval. And they're able to actually showcase these products. So aside from the speakers, we're really focused on the Expo. That's 90% of this agenda.

There's 50 plus vendors there. It's 50 plus. That's a lot. It's massive. Well, it's at the convention center. So, you know, we're not playing around in terms of, you know, a hotel or anything like that where it's a, you know, you got to go up multiple stairs or something. One open floor plan. And I think, you know, for most people that are going to be coming, it's an opportunity for them to try these products.

You know, a lot of these are high ticket. So there's some beds and companies that 100, 150. thousand plus where they're able to come and try that product for free, right? Being at the event with our speakers and then obviously the lineup for us, it's, you know, it's personal. Someone like a Tito who's a legend 20 year plus, a Hall of Famer fighting at the highest level in a ring. You know, what does that person do for mindset before the stage? His health, his recovery, the things that he does at a high level. And then, you know, obviously Laura Trump, you know, she's, she's become somewhat of a friend.

But she speaks to, you know, motherhood, right? Performing in the, you know, public eye, being someone that, you know, is a part of probably the most notable name on the planet. What are those, you know, moments look like for her and what does she utilize also from a health perspective? And then Mr. Gary Burka, do you know, Gary? I think there's a little bit there. Yeah, there's a little bit there.

We're starting to communicate on possibly doing something. the beginning of the year together. Oh. And yeah, it'd be fun, man. It'd be fun. I'm excited for it. That's awesome. We're just waiting for a schedule to open up, pretty jacked up about it.

Oh, yeah. But there's another guy that's, you know, done a great job in just talking about what he believes in the biohacking space. I think there's many ways of skin a cat, but I think what's so intriguing about your summit and then also, I mean, Tito Ortiz is one of the early adopters in biohacking. And no one knew what it was. But we live in a in a time where there's so much misdirection. There's so much confusion on what is actually healthy and how does one, how does a father,

a mother, right? How do they become the healthiest version of themselves? And again, like I said, there's a lot of misdirection. So how do you speak to that, man? Because for me, you know, there's many ways that you can look great, feel great, but is it actually the healthiest for you? No, I love that. And I think one of the biggest things that, you know, I'm glad you asked that question, you know,

I don't consider myself an expert in this space. I'm more of an explorer, right? So I got intrigued from this place on a personal level where, you know, chasing success I found was something that overrided my personal well-being from just mindset perspective, what I'm consuming, and then also, you know, just not a healthy lifestyle. So for me, this has been more of an exploration

to try to find those exact things. So we have something called, and I'm going to give it to you a little bit, our biohacking dictionary. Oh, no way, man. Yes, because you're making a great point. There are so many terms out there. How do I know what works and what is what when I hear these terms? That's something, it's not like a novel where you're reading through and trying to get to the end of the story. It's a handbook.

So the idea when our team was designing it, I said, I want something that's at the kitchen table, the kitchen counter of every home in the U.S., right, where people can go back to it. Me and my girl did a purge recently in our kitchen cabinet. We went through, we started to search through each product that we had, went through the ingredients and just started to purge. Spent the full weekend doing that. Dude, my wife did that, man. She was throwing all the stuff out. My kids were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you?

And she goes, well, this has this ingredient in it. This has this. And what people don't realize, everything in the pantry typically is designed to keep you hungry so you eat more of it, right? Very unhealthy. Yeah. So that's cool that you guys did that. And I want to touch on something.

And I want to edify you real quick because for those of you that are listening, it is, you know, when you chase success and you're looking to achieve some type of big thing, the first thing that always goes by the wayside is ourselves, our health, our mind, our bodies. And so like you, you mentioned some of your personal struggles before we started recording. There was a time where I got so locked into doing this that I stopped going to the gym. I stopped watching what I was eating and I had this show on determination and discipline but I was 238 pounds and 31% body fat. I'm like man, why can I get to the next level? What's the thing?

And for me it was like, dude, you've let go of the one thing that's your prison. That was my binge eating. That was my weight. Something I struggled with my whole life. The moment I cleaned that up, everything kind of opened wide open for me. And so I just want to say

that most high level people always get lost. in this chase and this pursuit of success. If you even look at Andy Fricela from First Form, he's been very well documented that when he became the MF CEO of First Form and building that brand, he got super fat. He was so unhealthy. And now look at the guy.

He's like 260 pounds of twisted steel because he figured out, like, if I'm going to build this brand, I have to be that dude. And so, again, it's like one of those. those checkpoints for that. I just want to challenge you on is like, look at that as a, look at that as like just a checkpoint, a part of the journey. And as long as you go through and rectify it, you have no idea the doors that are going to open, man. And we're going to take a quick break to hear from our powered by sponsor. We're proud to announce a partnership between White Sands,

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What is this person doing? How is this person look? What is, you know, all of these things. And, you know, your biggest, I say focus comes from whatever your identity is. So when you lose your identity, which, you know, you hear people, that's why, you know, for me, I look at it even from the people that you're around, right? Um, when, if you're around people that and, and you're in a circle and your crew, if it's a couple of men, but those men, let's say have insecurities and, you know, they're people pleasers. For me, I always looked at that as a liability. Mm-hmm.

Right. So in terms of keeping your circle tight, because what's going to happen if I'm in a situation is like, all right, I need this person to back me up. Yeah. Or I need this person that I know is, you know, has the, the, the boss. right um for me that was always something to keep an eye on but who you're around and what your focus is is going to determine pretty much everything else in your life right that circle um i love it said i don't know who says it but you know who you speak to before you go to bed determines a big part of and if it's a spouse if it's your kids a mentor um you know those things are really important so

um yeah i mean for me i've been on this journey for eight months now and, you know, the gym, the walking, the eating healthy, getting back to the things that I know when I'm in top shape, everything else, you know, starts to reflect that. It's interesting because it's a process, right, and you don't want to rush it. You know, you want to make sure that you're taking action every single day towards that, that outcome that you desire. And it's all about action, right? You can sit there and wish and dream all you want, but if you're not taking action, it becomes a lie.

The thing that I love most about when you're talking about the biohacking summit, the cool part is this is also going to be another piece even for you. What are you looking forward to most outside of the amazing speakers and the buzz all around it? For you specifically, what are you looking forward to? I think for me, it's more of the community aspect, right? I think, you know, for me, I get value when others get value, right? and being able to provide this information, everything that our team has been working on, you know, it's really making a difference.

You know, I'm not one of these people that, you know, because of a title or because of wherever I am, I'm not going to pick up the phone and call somebody that was interested in the event, right? So I'm on the phone with people that are going to be attending, speaking to them, hey, I had questions. Okay, my team didn't get to you. Let me speak to you.

I'm actually the organizer of the summit. So for me, doing that needs analysis, and understanding what's their pain point, it's like, oh, I'm so excited for you because, hey, there's going to be practitioners there. There's going to be Gary Brecker's longevity session. You're going to ask a direct question. The community, right, being able to shake a hand

and now that exposes you to more information where you can decide for yourself, hey, this is a direction I want to take. There was one woman I spoke to in Orlando and, you know, she was like, hey, I'm not going for me, but my sister was just diagnosed with cancer. And I'm trying to find remedies because they keep taking her to chemo and all of these things.

But I started to get heavy into this space. So maybe it's not a direct impact. Maybe it's a family health scare. Maybe it is your personal. Maybe you're looking and say, hey, I've always had a dream to build a med spa. And I just got my license. But I want to learn about the products and these things. So I'm really excited for people to actually get the value and to leave away from the event saying,

okay, I do want to get more out of life. I love that. In your communications with the community, right? You had the one woman that talked about her sister was diagnosed with cancer. And then potentially some med spa owners that are new. What are some other pain points that you've heard from the community? I think for most people, when you think about going to an event and you think about spending two days, you have to think about it. That's two days away from your family. That's two days away from your business. If you're running a business, that's two days away from your routine. Some people are flying in from L.A., from New York, Chicago, from all over the country. So for us, it's important to also make sure that those people are leaving with something that they can actually implicate, right? Not just, you know, buzzwords around, not just hearing the great things. But how can I put this into practice? That's important, Joseph, because a lot of times when you go to like motivational seminars or a sales, you know, summit or whatever it is, you're sitting there in that room and you're super motivated, you're driven. but when you get home, you don't know how to implement anything.

So it's nice to hear that there's going to be some real, how can I say, some real action at this thing where people can take this home and potentially purchase the biohacking dictionary to understand. Oh, no, everyone's getting it. Oh, no way. So everyone, oh, wow.

Every single person that's at the event's getting a free copy. That's badass. Yeah. We're encouraging everybody. Once you're at the event, put your wallet away. Right? We don't want your wallet out. There's nothing here for you to purchase.

Try the products. Hear from our speakers, network, your lunch is included. For us, it's, hey, just come to the party. Once you come and you show up, now you're exposed. And you can leave with tools, right in your arsenal. And whatever that is, if it's one thing, one of the biggest, I would say, starting points for me has been just the cell phone news. Right. I was someone who was a scroller at night.

I would scroll and scroll in YouTube shorts and, I mean, playing poker live and all of this stuff. Right before I go to bed and one of the biggest, I would say, shifts has just been literally taking my phone out of the bedroom. I don't even charge it in the room anymore. Just through the research of the radiation, all the stuff that comes out. I don't know what to believe. But essentially just being able to calm the mind, get proper sleep. There's so much basic things that I've learned that's made such a drastic. impact.

And yeah, I mean, I think most people, once they experience it and hear from it, they can actually take those tools with them. When it comes to what your family eats and drinks, you know your choices matter. You're the expert because you know what fits your life. And getting it right starts with good information. That's why America's beverage companies are sharing more information about our ingredients at good to know facts.org. No spin, no judgments, just the facts straight from the experts for more than 140 beverage ingredients.

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I can still see it. So I put it on sleep, and then I put it on my nightstands too close to me. But I do use that for my alarm clock. and my wife says, you need to go get an old school alarm clock, put it on your nightstand, and then charge your phone downstairs, right? Because for me, I get up at four. Like, I don't want to sleep through that alarm. But again, those are one of the things. Like, the phone usage at night, it's super, it could be pretty bad. I don't scroll at night. You know, my wife sometimes, she'll sit there and she's never on her phone. She's never on her phone. But when the kids go to bed and we're watching a show, because we like to,

we like to binge a little bit of suits at night. Right. It's great, but she'll she'll be scrolling. I'm like, baby, you paying attention here? She goes, but she'll scroll and she goes, oh my God, I got to put this down. I just, for me, we're talking about health. And if we scroll on social media consistently,

it could impact our mental health big time. Because I could see somebody that's doing more than me in the podcast. And I could see an article that my show wasn't included and I can get pissed off about it, right? And those are very unhealthy things. So what I like to do as far as my health is I like to put it away at some point. And I don't really scroll at all during the day. There's moments we're all scrolled just to get a laugh or two.

Yeah. And send my friends some messed up reels because that's what we do. But then it's done. Then it's done because I want to stay in my lane. Yeah. And I think that's so important, right, because we're, you know, anyone could be influenced by what's out there. And the way that the algorithms are not working is before, you know, you would follow somebody and then you would start to see their content. Now they're bringing the content to you based on what you've seen previously, right?

And they're based on your personality. It's getting so sharp that it's almost like a casino game where you enter your card. They know what you're doing. You're playing the slot or whatever game you're playing. They're able to control those things. So it's down to a science where how can I keep this person? on our platform for as long as possible. And I think sometimes we, you know, easily can just obliviously open it out of habit.

Now you're there 15 minutes. That just affected your mood. You're going into a meeting or a conversation with your family or something. And they're like, hey, what was that about? It's like, damn, I didn't even realize that this is starting to have power and control over how I'm behaving. So on the drive over here, I was telling you I was listening to an automobile. book, you know, and, you know, I think for me, it's just finding the patterns in anything

you're doing. As it relates to health, I look at who are the people that aspire, right, a vision board. I don't know if you have a vision board to believe in them, but for me, I have a vision board and who's on there, Arnold Sorcianager, right? Some of these people, Rocky, when he was fighting a drago, all these people that I looked up to and that, you know, had an impact in my life, I look at that to continue to put it into my mindset. because thoughts become things. Dude, it's so funny because you look at both of those were underdogs.

Let's be very, very clear. America loves underdogs, right? If you look at Arnold Schwarzenegger, they said, you have no business being in the States. You cannot be a lead. And then, Governor, come on, he did it all. He did it all because he stayed in his lane and he willed it to happen by taking action.

And that's the thing that I want people to understand. They can go to your summit. They can listen to the speakers. They can get the book. They can try out all the vendors and all the products. But if they don't take action when they leave there, that's where the disconnect is. And at that point, they're just wasting money. How are you guys, when you guys are running the event, and I'm excited to see it,

how are you guys going to encourage action post summit? I think you're making such a great point, which I agree with you. I think most times when you go to an event or you're going to something, the present moment is, you know, encouraging, right? You're like, man, this is awesome. I've been to some of the biggest events. But I think for next steps, there's something called accountability. Come on.

Right. So from that standpoint, you know, we have a community that we're building. It's going to be announced at the summit. We're going to encourage it. It's a free online site. But that's just a platform for people that were at the summit to stay connected. Really cool, man. No charge for it.

It's nothing that you're going through, but there's going to be weekly check-ins, weekly essentially newsletters, but live chat, live comments, how's this going? Hey, I met you, I remember you.

That accountability is everything, right? And I think most people hold themselves accountable, which is dangerous, right? Because we can lie to ourselves easily. I do it all the time. In my own voice, in my own head,

sounds like me, tell myself something and next thing you know I'm like man this is uh yeah you know this was this was a lie this wasn't real I had no one to check me on that so the more people we can bring around somebody who is serious about their health then you know I think that the the better the outcome is going to be like in anything in life here's one other part I think for that's one part right accountability but then the other piece is we're also looking to attract those that have self-motivation we're not going to, you know, come across and try to say, hey, you know, we're going to hold your hand throughout this entire process with you. Not to sell brutal or anything.

But our messaging is, hey, we want you to get the most out of life, whatever that looks like for you. But we have the experts that we're bringing to the table. We have the companies we're bringing to the table, the community that you're able to stay connected with. and then obviously the value, you know, from the actual two days. Sometimes, you know, I think no matter what you say to somebody, maybe you've experienced this, you know, they're just not going to take action on their own. No, because people...

And then what do you do with that? People get overwhelmed by just living life in general, whether they're married, they have children, they have a tough career. They can be inspired in that moment. And then they make excuse after excuse. of why they can't do something. Like, you have to want that outcome more than you want to sleep. You know, and again, I think sleep is important.

Don't get me wrong. I know sleep is important. But you can't wake up in the morning and be like, I'm not going to do it because I don't feel good. And that's one of the things that I think community is so important. You know, like, that's when you're talking about building that community, having that community where people can go and have the conversations publicly on that forum, you're like, hey, here's what I'm struggling with today.

Here's what I've done today. They can reach more inspiration by interacting with each other post event. That's going to drive them forward every day. I think that's an integral part of what you're doing. I didn't know you guys were doing that. There's not a lot of other events that are doing that. They'll say, hey, you can join our community for 50 grand a year. Yeah, no.

Right? You know what I'm saying, dude? So that's one of the things, right? Over delivering on value. Yeah. I think that for anybody that is, you know, struggling with whatever that is for them, for me, it was chasing success, finding myself in a position where, you know, I genuinely felt like, you know, I was losing a part of me because my focus was elsewhere. I wasn't, you know, there's a guy Jim Rohn. Yeah.

If you've ever heard of many of this stuff. It's a goat, man. It's so good. But Jim Rone talks about work harder in yourself than you do on your job, right? and he goes through this entire spiel about making, you know, yourself better, and that's going to open up the door. You made the point 10 minutes ago.

It's going to open up the door for everything else in your life. And, you know, I think we all go through it at some phase where we start to put other things a priority. For some, it's a girl, right? You just start dating a girl. You know, now she becomes your world.

And then three months pass, you blew all your money. You don't know what the heck you're doing You know she's You know now moved on or didn't work out And you're like You're left with the bag bro you're just left Yeah what am I doing so

That part of it I think it's very common Especially in this day and age where the algorithm Is teaching us or telling us How we're supposed to be before it was just women With the magazines in New York City In the models And then to make up companies there was a huge spike.

If you look at, I think it's 1992, there was an article about how the, essentially these Vogue magazines started to really push out the advertising for models. There was a direct correlation with makeup products, like spiking in sales. Before was that, what is it now?

You know, when you go on your Instagram, what do you see? You see Ferraris, Lambeaus, you see this part, you see big chains, you see all of these things. and at some point subconsciously, that can affect the way you're looking at, like, man, I'm not doing enough.

Yeah. Right? Opposed to, like, what you're saying, which I love your approach, man, I don't even scroll room. Yeah. A couple laughs, but I need to focus on what I'm doing.

Yeah, I'm human. I'll go on there a little bit. You know, and like the current events recently, I'll get caught up on that, like conspiracy theories. And I'm like, you gotta stop watching this because that's taking over your feed.

Now, people don't understand that they, they control their own, you control your own feed. But the thing that I love what you're saying is you're talking about, you know, Jim Rohn, work more on yourself. I firmly believe that if we put our blinders on and go dark on everything else, of course, you don't want to, you know, I have three children and a wife. I'm never going dark on them.

That they are my priority. But in order for them to be my priority, my utmost priority has to be me. Like I have to be putting so much work into myself. What am I reading? You know, what kind of delayed gratification am I going through? am I willing to suffer through certain points of maybe hunger or I want that ice cream or I want that cake? I want that fast food.

Am I willing to suffer for the betterment of myself so I can give more to my show, to my guests, to my wife, to my kids, and then to my team. And then all of a sudden, things start opening up and you have opportunities that you don't even realize. But here's the problem. People always want to go that quid pro quo. If I do this, what do I get? Right.

So it can't be that. It's just like, I'm going to do this. because I want to be the best me. And a lot of times is looking in the mirror and me like, I don't like what I see. I don't like the lack of follow through. I don't like the lack of determination or discipline. And then you fix that.

And that becomes your mission every day. All of a sudden you look around, you know, in three to six months, you're like, holy shit. I can't even breathe right now because I'm so damn busy. Everything's moving in the right direction. And now I need more support. Rinse takes your laundry and hand delivers it to your door,

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Dude. My wife and I have been talking that we need to sit down and watch that immediately. In terms of binging, I'll tell you this, I stopped the binging since the Sopranos. I used to watch the Sopranos a lot

if you like the Sopranos. I never watched that. Oh, it's one of the greatest shows. I'm probably going to cancel for that. I've never watched Sopranos. No, but it's all good. It's one of the, I mean, it's one of the, I mean,

It's one of the greatest shows just from a, you know, the character. I mean, this guy, you know, played Tony. It's just too good. But he looks the part too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like my boss. It's believable, man. 100%.

Yeah. But the shows and the reason why I bring it up is, you know, me and my girl, we binged that twice. It's such a good show. You're a Christian? Yes, I am. I'm a believer. It's, I mean, the way that. you know, the storyline with Jesus' disciples,

time after time throughout the show, it's Jesus performing these miracles, healing the blind, healing the sick, doing this, bringing Lazarus back from the dead. And each time his disciples are around him, and they're like right there. And then, you know, an episode will pass and you start to hear camaraderie,

they always argue, and then they start to continue to question him. They're continuing to say, well, is that possible after he just showed a miracle? Throughout the entire show, it's people around him saying, I don't know if that's possible.

He performs the miracle, oh, yes, this was great, you're the Messiah. And then the next episode, I don't know, how is this, the fear comes? My point is, when you speak about, you know, when you're when you're mentioning the idea of working harder on ourselves for me one of the biggest areas to to look at is where is my identity lied in is it lied in what i'm able to do that's just personal belief right and i think for some it maybe doesn't apply and that's okay um but the

correlation between, you know, willpower, which, you know, our, or God has given us the ability to do these things, and the reliance on him to do the impossible, right? For me, this entire journey has been the impossible. It's all him. I'm like, okay, I have this idea. I wrote it down. I spoke about it. Here's the lineup. Here's what I want to do. All throughout the entire process, maybe like you, you know, I, yes, we put in the work. but he's carried me and he's opened up the doors he opened up this conversation for me to have and for me i i just always want to give that credit because the moment and i've experienced this i turned my back and i said well it was me right that pride that human um aspect that we have

i know the story of job and i know how he can give it to you and he can take it all the way so um that's just one part where if there is a show i encourage the chosen for out there it's just a good show and that's the only show I would recommend. Obviously, nothing on Netflix. Cocoa Mellon, huh? It was crazy. You mentioned something interesting. You're talking about, you know, our God. And I look at things along those lines very similarly. You know, when I built this, it was the impossible. I was a medical sales rep. I didn't have any celebrityism. I didn't have anything. I didn't have anything. I didn't have any of that.

But one day it hit me. This isn't a Facebook group. This is a podcast. And I can interview all these local people about their success. And it's turned into so much more to a point where I sometimes I pinch myself and it's like, I get to have conversations with people like William H. Macy. Tyrese, like all these different, you know, amazing individuals that have done really well in their career. and the one thing that I always fall back on,

people ask me, how are you doing this? And I was like, well, that's a very loaded gun question. I mean, if you want me to tell you my SOPs and my support in the background, I'm not going to do that. But really what it is, it's understanding a gift that was given to me. So this is where people kind of get messed up, right?

They have a gift from our Lord and Savior, whatever that may be. For me, it was my voice. And being able to be the, the calming voice in a storm. So once I realized that was my gift, who am I to not use the gift that God gave me? That's the ultimate act of disrespect. So for me, every day that I get to do this, it's a blessing.

It's a blessing from him to say, like, you put this in me, man. Like, this is cool. And so for me, all I do is try to keep leveraging that gift. I love that. And I think it's, look, I think you look at it this way. at some point everybody has a gift, right? And whatever that is, it's unique to that person. I think the challenge becomes when, you know, there's limited beliefs saying, hey, yeah, maybe, but I'm still in fear.

I'm still scared. I don't know. All of those thoughts that essentially run most people's lives, right? And that, I think that part of it, it's twofold. It's, yes, you have this gift. Yes, you know, you can utilize it, but will you take that step to do it? But then the other person comes around and says, oh, man, that was easy for you to do. You know, because you're such a great speaker.

It's like, well, let me challenge that. Yeah. What's your gift? Let's actually unpack that. So for me, there's a twofold to it. And I think, you know, it's a. Yeah. You know, it's never easy. It's never easy for anyone because I can go back and I can tell you to go listen to my first 10 shows and then let's watch the first 20 on YouTube and I'll look at it and like I have no place being where I'm at right now. Like I have no place. Like, and it's everybody talks about going back and looking at their all content like oh man, if you don't cringe, you're not doing something. You're not doing it right. And I'll look at it. I'll be like, dude, it was bad. But again, it's practice. its development and it's and its action.

Persistence. Yes. One of the biggest lines, there's a movie The Founder with the McDonald's franchise. And he was listening to that tape over and over and over again the beginning of the movie where it was like persistence, persistence, persistence. And I think that's where most people fail is when it starts to get tough or things don't seem like it's working out.

That's what's going to differentiate continuing, it getting bigger, it growing, which offers more opportunities to others or just shifting directions and saying, well, I tried it, didn't work, let's move on. So you know what I find interesting is when people, and myself, you know, it was December of last year, November and December,

and I was like, I don't know how much longer I can do this. I may have to go back to corporate America because it's hard to monetize a show. It's hard to monetize error, right? If you don't have the support, you don't understand how to do it. But what I chose to do was, dial in on me, right?

Like really work hard on me. And I chose to take that moment of like extreme emotional and financial pain and just wear it. Just put my face right into it and not obsess and be depressed about it. Like this is where I'm at. Why am I going through this? You know, and what gift is there in that? And that's where I spent my time. I go thanking him.

for the struggle. Obviously, I'm not ready for the next level because you're showing me right now I'm not. So whatever you're showing me, I'm going to take and I'm going to build on this.

And so when I talk to people, you know, and they're struggling, I go, think of how it's going to serve you instead of how it's defeating you. Because if you sit there in the defeat, you will never grow from it. And then you're going to quit. And the next venture you go on,

you're going to hit the same roadblock. There's going to be those times where you're under extreme amount a stress and can't move any direction and you're stuck. It's because you're not looking at it as a gift. And I truly feel those moments, the goal isn't the happy part. When you reach that thing, that's not the happiness. Everybody talks about, and it's true.

And it's become a cliche, but it's a believable one. And it's true is you become happy in the pursuit, in the pursuit of that thing. So all the hard points, all the struggle, all the tears, you know, even the happiness. between mixed in, embrace it, because that's the gift. It's the gift. And even from a, when you start to look from a macro side of it, you think about what that testimony does for others. Right.

So it's one, where is this going to be able to get me in my place? Okay, this served me well. But then it served my family. Okay, that's great. And then it serves my community. That's great. but all of the lives that one thing can touch. And that's really where like the fire comes from.

Right. And if you don't have that fire, that bigger purpose, that big thing that you're shooting for saying, you know, this is, this is where I'm, you know,

what I'm shooting for. And then others will say, man, that's crazy. How can you even think that way? How can you have, you know, the person who's,

you know, going to be coming here and this big thing? It's like, well, look, That's your fear. You can't put your fear on me. You think you can't do that.

That's great for you. That's not the way I think. Right? So I think that part of it also opens doors for others to draw some inspiration. Like for me, all of the content and books and seminars and all of the things that I've experienced and listened to, you know, has helped me so much. I'm not someone who was like, oh, I came up all everything. Like, no. I stole everything.

Just from the standpoint of, yes, I want to learn more. You start to become addicted to the information because it's like, man, if this guy did it, how can I do it? And sometimes there's a different perspective on it with those that say, well, he did it. I can't do it. So I'm going to judge this person and say something bad about him. So you're about to make a trade based on a friend's text. But which you do you listen to? Is it, we could buy a house in Toulou?

get optioning those options. We could lose everything. Or let's do a little research. Get your head in the trade and make the investment decision that's right for you. Learn more at finra.org slash trade smart. Limiting beliefs, ma'am. I have them. You have them. Kyle has them. We all have them.

Every person on the planet has a limiting belief. You can either listen to it or you can, work past it because those that stay in it never accomplish anything the ones that push past it and embrace it and want to build on that those are the ones that are successful do limiting beliefs man if i dude i've been in rooms with freaking j lino yeah okay let's talk about that one really quickly i i live in florida and i'm out in california to go film with j leno i look at that and on face value i'm not supposed to be in this room am i in the right right room here. I'm in his garage. I'm walking around looking at all the cars, all the Harley

Davidson's. I'm like, dude, am I ready for this? And that was the most anxietizing moment for me interviewing him. But then I sit there and I say, no, no, no, nothing happens by accident. I'm here in this building on camera with him for a reason and I'm going to execute it. Right. And for me, that was a big moment because the aspect of belonging, Joseph, like, that's the limiting belief. Right. It's like, am I in the right room? You have to get through it. You have to get through it. Right. But those moments right there, that made me a better interviewer. It honed my craft. I mean, not to mention the Jamie Kennedy to the same trip. Right? and a producer and a director and a writer and then another comedian. Like that trip in the middle, in the right in the smack dab middle of the year in June built me for months to come in years to come.

And then I build on every single conversation to overcome that limiting belief. Yeah, I think it's, it's so important to recognize it or you get called out for it. See, for me, sometimes I think that's why it goes, back to the point of who's in your ear and who are you around. Because a limited belief is only a limited belief until you label it as such, right? And if there's no one there to check you, and if the language that I'm using is fear, timid, I don't know, I'm not sure, not confident,

saying, no, we're going to make it happen, or it's going to happen. You know, I need someone there to check me for that. I've always needed that. Because, again, it's in my own head. How do I know? and if I'm doing journaling and if I'm speaking, you know, to somebody that is a mentor figure, then I'm able to at least get those things out. Yeah. But I think most people, one, there's a fear in saying,

damn, if I'd say this to this person, he's going to judge, like if I tell you, man, you're probably going to look at me away. It's going to, you know, affect this relationship. And then also, you know, others may judge, opposed to, okay, so when I'm close to me, hey, listen, what do you think? No, check me on that. Right. Hey, that's a limited belief. Yeah, you know the other thing, too, that I found that that works. And this is, tightened back, excuse me, to your event in the community. I started listening to the voices that were telling me the story that I wanted to hear. And I don't want people to think that I'm not listening to the other voices that are telling me that I have things to improve upon. I respond to almost every single comment. If someone lights me up on YouTube, if someone lights me up on Spotify saying, I love the show, but the host keeps saying, like I said, hey, thank you for that. I didn't notice it.

but thank you, I'm going to get better at it. And I'll take that information and I'll get better, right? And I'll focus on it a little bit, but I'll focus on the Patrick Dearborns, you know, the unifiers, the ones that tell me what they truly see. And I think that's also a very important thing. It's like, you have to know who to listen to.

Can't listen to the people beating you up all the time. Oh, not at all. You've got to listen to the empowering folks that want to unify, that want to drive change, that want to drive, some more damn love into the society. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that goes back to the original point of who's around you, right,

and choosing because, you know, birds of a flog, flocked together. Yeah, that's a good one, yeah. So I've always been one that has recognized if someone's around me and they're gossiping about somebody. Like, for me, that's a quick checkpoint. I won't even say it to that person. I won't even tell them. I'll just, okay, got it.

You're in that camp. All good, don't hate you, but I just know where this is going to lie because that's not the time that I'm on. This person says this or this person, or if you're telling me about somebody or talking to me about somebody, you know,

and like how am I not going to think that you're going to, when I'm not there. Yeah, that's a hard word. Yeah. Being aware of those things is also an aspect of, of just choosing the right people around you that are on the same, you know, that have the same mindset or the same values.

If someone doesn't hold the same values, I'm not spending my time with that person. It's going to, like, they'll bring me down quicker than I can build them up. Absolutely, dude. Right? And that's that part. So it's funny, you know what my response is always is

when something like that happens and I get hit? Like, because that'll happen. That'll happen, you know, from your girl, from my wife, from a good friend, a business partner, or just, Anybody. It's like, oh, I always say, hey, that's crazy. Hey, man, listen, I'm in the middle of something. I got to get back to it. I'll talk to you later. Yeah. Like, I always cut it short, but I'm respectful about it. I don't go, hey, man, I don't want to hear that crap. I go, hey, wow, that's crazy.

Hey, I'm in the middle of something. I wanted to get your call or, you know, I don't want to ignore you, but I need to shift my focus back to this because it protects me, right? And I'm not people pleasing. I'm not being rude, but I'm telling them, like, I have to get back to it. And if that happens enough, like, I can't go to Sean for that. Yeah. Right. And so. Or they pick up on it.

Yeah. They'll just know and be like, ah, damn, because, you know, they want someone they can talk to. So they'll just probably not call you when that comes up. Well, because, you know, again, it's about what you put out there, right? And eventually people start to catch on to who you are and what you're putting out. I'm like, I can't go to Joseph for that because he's not even going to hear me. There's no point. And I don't want to infect him with that energy.

And closing, man, why don't talk, you know, any final things that you want to say about the More Life Biohacking Summit, man? Yeah, so I think, you know, well, first I appreciate you having me on. Dude, my pleasure. You have a pack schedule. You're back to back. The studio's great. You know, my man over there is great.

He's killing it. He's a dude, man. He's a dude, so. He's one of my favorite, honestly, like, I mean, he's a side track because he knows I love him, but, you know, the audience has gotten really comfortable with me edifying people. when I'm he's one of,

Kyle is one of my favorite things about coming to work every day because he's excitable. He's a hard worker. He's super young, but super knowledgeable and just always driven to do the best job he can.

And so I just, I love, I love you, buddy. I love you, man. It's my guy. But yeah,

man, like, I appreciate you for saying that. And you're more than welcome to stick around and watch the next filming. I don't care. I appreciate.

You have a lot of, having me. And just in terms of the summit, I think everyone that's coming, you know, you're in for a surprise. I'll tell you that. We have something special lined up. Nobody knows. The only person who knows is a special agent secret service that I spoke to yesterday. And I'm meeting her tomorrow for obviously Laura. But there's a special guest we're bringing for her birthday. Everybody knows who this is. So we're really excited. And I think, you know, it goes with the theme. This summit is truly about getting the most out of life, whatever that is for you. But your health, your body, your mindset, even your spirituality.

We have an opening message. And, you know, we're going to stand by it. And then we're going to be announcing something very interesting in March that's going to be taking place for some people. Very cool. Yeah. So you have another event impending in March. It's not an event.

It's a little bit different. Okay. Yeah, it's a little bit different. We'll be speaking about that at the end of the summit. I love it, dude. Yeah, but we're excited. You know, we're grateful to partner with our speakers. super blessed, you know, to even have the opportunity.

And for those that are coming, you know, you're in for a show. It's going to be some interesting things. And then you as well, you and your wife, if you guys are able to make it, love to have you guys. It'll be me solo. She'll be with the kiddos. But it'll be me solo. I think Saturday I'll be able to pull that off. Yeah, Saturday's a big day.

Big day, man. Big day. Sunday's church. So more life biohacking summit. Go check it out. My man, Joseph Rivera. Until next time, stay determined. Next up is a little song from Karma.

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