Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - Embracing Family Legacy & Carrying The Torch with Anakin Brown and Jordan Mincy

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

In this impactful episode of The Determined Society, host Shawn French sits down with two remarkable figures in the world of collegiate basketball: Coach Jordan Mincy, a respected basketball coach known for his commitment to developing young talent, and Anakin Brown, a promising college basketball player following in his father’s legendary footsteps. The conversation dives deep into the intersection of sports, family, and community, offering listeners a rich exploration of what it means to build a lasting legacy both on and off the court. Key Topics Discussed: Community Involvement and Leadership: Coach Mincy opens up about his philosophy on the importance of community engagement as a pillar of his coaching approach. He shares anecdotes from his career that highlight the role of sports in bringing communities together and how he encourages his players to be active, positive forces within their local communities. Anakin Brown adds his perspective on the significance of giving back and how his father’s example has shaped his views on community involvement. Family Legacy and Personal Motivation: Anakin Brown discusses the weight and privilege of carrying on his father’s legacy. He reflects on the pressures of living up to expectations and how he channels these into motivation to excel in his sport. The conversation also touches on the broader theme of how athletes can honor their family legacies while forging their own paths, with Coach Mincy providing insights from his experience guiding young athletes. The Determination to Succeed: Both guests delve into the mindset necessary for success in college basketball. Coach Mincy talks about instilling resilience and determination in his players, emphasizing that success is as much about mental toughness as it is about physical skill. Anakin shares his personal journey, including the challenges he’s faced and the mental strategies he employs to stay focused and driven. The Changing Landscape of Collegiate Sports: The discussion takes a turn towards the evolving world of college sports, particularly focusing on the recent changes brought about by Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) rights and the transfer portal. Coach Mincy provides a coach’s perspective on the challenges and opportunities these changes present, especially in terms of recruiting and retaining talent. Anakin offers a player’s viewpoint on how NIL and the transfer portal have influenced his experience as a college athlete and how he navigates these new dynamics. Challenges in Recruiting: Coach Mincy discusses the increasing competitiveness in recruiting, the factors that influence a player’s decision to commit to a program, and the strategies he employs to attract and develop top talent. He also touches on the importance of character and fit, not just skill, in building a cohesive and successful team. Raising Young Men through Sports: A central theme of the episode is Coach Mincy’s dedication to raising young men, not just athletes. He elaborates on his role as a mentor and how he uses basketball as a tool to teach life lessons about responsibility, leadership, and perseverance. Anakin reflects on how Coach Mincy’s guidance has impacted his own growth, both as a player and as a person. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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and then to find yourself as the head coach at Jacksonville University. And in your very first year, you earn the title of first year head coach of the year. And only to find yourself a couple years later having legendary D. Brown son, Anakin Brown, come in as a recruit and commit to your basketball program to live out his father's legacy. What kind of story would that be? Well, I got that story for you guys. So why don't you come on, follow me, and listen to this amazing story. Let's go.

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conversation thank you both so much for coming thank you rap and that was man it's this is great it's great so talk to me guys I mean you know what you've had such a decorated career as a player and now you know as a coach you know two and CAA appearances at Ken State. Now, you know, then you were a coach of the year, assistant, coach of the year for University of Florida. And then you go to J.U, man, and your very first year in 2021, first year head coach of the year.

That's amazing. You know what? It's been a blessing. A lot of times, you know, oftentimes you question yourself. But, you know, when you have a lot of wins, often success follows. And so being able to just have, you know, creative young men that give us the ability to coach and coached Ravar every day like Anaheim Brown, but also having the resources that we have at the university.

You know, we have an unbelievable president, Tim Kalls, he's amazing. He gives us unbelievable resources. He really pours into our program as a whole. And then our athlete director, I was River Gilbert. He's like my right-hand man. You know, I'm going to do anything without him. But they really, you know, empower us to make sure that we coach these guys the right way and give them every tool they need to be successful.

Not only basketball court, but also successful in life. Being successful life is the most important, right? we all know that at some point that athletic journey ends, we got to prepare these young athletes for what's to come after. But I want to touch on real quick, man, you know, you, Anakin, you have an amazing story. I mean, no secret. You know, J.U.

alum, NBA alum, slam dunk contest winner, D. Brown. A lot of young athletes that have parents that have made it at such a level, they like to stray away from that name and that legacy because they want to be on the road. and you've really embraced it. And in fact, I don't want to directly quote you, but I read some of the states like, and you're blessed that he's able to be your dad.

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I kind of think of a bit of a way of why would I stray away from the name. He did such a good job. He worked his hardest to build up the name, and I'm going to do my best to carry it. So I just need to do my best to carry the legacy that he built for me. He's done a great job of building me up as a player as a young man to continue to carry the legacy, no matter what I do. How has he prepared you as watching everything that he's done in his career? and then now he's at J.U as the assistant, athletic director, correct?

I think so. I think so. I think so. I don't know. So how has his work ethic, you know, played a huge role in you growing up as a dynamic player? He most definitely just said an example ever since I was young. He never stopped working, ever. He's always on the move, always working, but he's never too busy to give us a call,

never too busy to take care of us. So it's always, it's always just, she's always just been a good example for us of how to be a man, how to be a good dad, how to be just a good person overall. See, that's impact right now. See, that is impact. A lot of people, and I'm sure you dealt with many parents over your career, man, that don't quite support and teach the small things.

But, you know, when you are able to get a player like Anakin and all your other amazing athletes that you coach and represents, like, when they have had parents that have shown, that no matter how busy and successful I am, you're still a priority. How much easier does that make your job? Oh, it's incredibly easy. You know, to be able to go to work with his father every day, oftentimes I'm asking questions. Just bounce on certain household flow, you know, when you work for the Clippers,

what did you guys think about this? What did you think about this? And so being able to kind of see anything grow up and understand, you know, you had two amazing parents that really cord into him to create and make me a young man to years now. we're really excited about his future but I couldn't say anything bad about his parents

I love me in death that's so much intimately guy It's amazing man You know this show is called The Determined Society What's the termination mean to you? Determination means to me Never never quitting

Never stopping No matter what else is our head of You know you always got to keep pushing forward You know a lot of times We use the word determination Just with our guys And make sure they understand Hey look no matter you know

What people believe in us We believe in ourselves Just keep moving forward What about you, man? What's the determination mean to you? Definitely to branch up with Coach Mincy said definitely just always keep going, always battling and get to the next step, next goal, and next journey. So most definitely just always to just keep going. It's funny. I love it.

You know, and it's so funny because everybody hears the word determination and motivation. They think it's pretty and angry all the time. How much of it is just waking up in doing the things that you know you're supposed to do, even when you don't want to do that. About 80%. It's not always sunshine of rainbows is. Yeah. No, it's not always easy.

Definitely on the days where you just don't want to get up. But those days make you great. Those days are the best days. What's your cue? When you're sitting there and it's like, I don't want to get out of bed. I don't want to go train. Mency's got us up too early. What drives you?

What's that trigger for you? Definitely just there's someone else out there that's going to do it. Telling someone else to go do it. Yeah, either you do it, either you do it or someone else is going to do it for you, and you don't want to be left behind, so you definitely just got to go get it. Yeah, man, that's good. You're just like, someone else is out there is going to do it, right? And you're either going to take that role and go do it so you can improve and be that guy

or somebody else is going to take that, right? For you, coach, there's so many things that are more in coaching than just coaching the X's and O's and, you know, teaching, you know, your players how to run the play. Rush. Yeah, like, how has that determination that discipline help you get through the administrative things, the recruiting trail when you were the other growing up with the coaching? Like, how's it helped to you? You know what? Having that certain level of determination has really been a driving force. You know, oftentimes, especially the landscape of recruiting, you know, has changed continuously, especially at our levels. But at the same time, you know, the main goal that, you know, our athletic director, I was

Ray Gilbert, he's talking with was, you know, it's not about ways of losses. It's about how you're raising our young men. Are you giving them the tools they need to be successful? And so for me, every day, I wake up trying to make sure I'm pointing to these guys, showing them what a great father is, being, you know, a great husband. And so it's way more just X and O than the Jewish trying to. Yeah, man, I just think that when you're able to show the youth what it's like to be a man and the things that we have to do in order to complete the job, And it's much more than people think, man. And it, you know, it's one of those things where I can remember when I said,

I'll live you know this, when I started this show in a vehicle. At a vehicle, three years ago, I'm sitting in a W, a EW Atlas SUV. I got my asshole on the acre up, and I'm, like, talking into it. It was like a venting chamber. And then, you know, like, there's been so many pain points for me, you know, a lot of tears, a lot of silence, you know, me, you know, amazing Pat Sickens. and now we're sitting here three years later, and we're on stage in Jacksonville Beach having this amazing interview.

And it's because I woke up and did the things, even when I didn't want to. And at the expense of like the pain, right? And, you know, people mock you. You know, people mock you. I remember my dad said, hey, how's that little podcast going? Well, hello, man. Here we are.

Right. But I think there always has to be that, maybe that external energy that comes in, that gets you to drive a little bit more. But then also be thankful for that interview that was given to you. Has there been any catalyst for you? And maybe, you know, I mean, for me, I walk around with a little bit of a chip on my shoulder. People will tell you.

Do you have any of that that drives you? Like driving, like, just to get out there and then we're like, all right, man, here we go. What's up? Definitely not proving people wrong just to pull myself right. It's a lot. I don't need, I don't got to prove anything anybody, but I just want to prove myself that I can be the best person. I can be the best player person, man, I can be, I'm just trying to prove myself right on a daily basis.

This is like, it's, I wish I would have had that when I was a kid. Because for me, it was always that negative external factor, right? That drove me. And what it did is it put me into an approval seeking, you know, and I really wasn't owning who I was. I was doing it to prove somebody else wrong. So, brother, the fact that you have that now is going to pay you major dividends in your collegiate and, you know, NBA career, you know, that's pretty quick.

Cool, man. What about you? You know what? The driving force behind, you know, the decisions and the actions that I do every morning are my parents. You know, oftentimes I reflect on my father working three jobs trying to make sure they provide it for me and my three other siblings. And so oftentimes I start my day. You know, a lot of times I don't want to get up as we just talked about. And the first thing I do is I call Willie Mincy and I say, hey, dad, what you know? How are you doing today? And, you know, he's up.

Whether he's playing with my niece, you know, being with my mom or doing something around the house. you know, he's still moving and grueling. And so for me, I just draw energy and just so much from that man. That's amazing. And I think it's great that, you know, you're a dull. I have a failure of your own, your successful Division I basketball coach. You're calling your pops first thing in the morning to see what he's doing so you can draw that energy from him.

That's leadership. That's leadership. If you touched on something earlier that I don't want to glance over. And you talked about the landscape in collegiate sports brief. So, like, it's so much different now. You have NIL and then you have the portal. How does that affect you as a basketball coach and how you conduct your business state of debt?

Well, oftentimes, you know, when I'm talking to people about the recruiting and how the landscape change, I often reflect on my time at the University of Florida. You know? Oftentimes we had guys that would be clear and go to the draft early. And so for me, I just kind of see the portal kind of in the same light where we have a player that's really successful. He's a first team all-league guy. You know what?

The Florida's, the Georgia. just somebody's going to be calling trying to get that kid to transfer up. So it's my job. You know, when January hits, that's my key month. And I say, hey, look, are you going to come back or not? Just let me know. And so they tell me, Coach, you know what, I think I'm going to move on and try to move up a little.

I'll say, you know what? It's fine. I love him. Because they'll always be here for you. But at the same time, it's my job to make sure I replace you. So, like I said, I understand the landscape. You know, a lot of older coaches might say it's a difficult landscape. But for me, you know what?

You got to adapt, you got to change. And oftentimes, I'm telling these guys, just like basketball, while we got a kid league. Yeah. You know, I think being adaptive, right, being an adaptability. Because to your point, man, you're the first college coach I talked to that spoke about the portal and the landscape in that light. You're always like, dude, you have your perspectives, right?

And if you don't have perspective on it, that's when it becomes tough. But if you have to deter yourself in those moments and come with that loving and I say, hey, love you anyway, I'm always here for you, you know, but I do got to replace you. So let me know, what's up. Like, I got to know. I mean, I think that's big, man. And, you know, I just wish more people would look in it that way. But, you know, we can't lie, it is difficult, right?

There's a lot of coaches out there. The dinosaurs are struggling with it, man. You know, they struggle with it. I mean, I mean, I ain't seen as not around anymore, you know. He wasn't done. I don't know if that. I mean, I think he's kind of talked about it a little bit. It's just like, it's just becoming too difficult, you know.

But he's a free agent every single year. It'll be hard. It could be really hard. What are you looking forward to most? The freshman year coming up? We're looking forward to most. Definitely just looking forward to the experience, the college experience, just learning from practices, learning from games,

learning from definitely the holder guys on the team because they have the most experience. I can definitely learn a thing or two from them just by watching, asking them questions, and just being a student of the games. That's awesome. I think also you have this cheat code too, right, because you had your pops. Yeah. Okay?

So my question is like, and it may be no different. But how has your routine changed from training for high school and then into Division 1 program? With my pops are just on a big. Just with your mindset and just kind of just you as far as the intensity of work, all that kind of good stuff. Definitely, the intensity of work is definitely higher. So your mindset definitely has to change. If you don't love it, then you just won't succeed. So most definitely, you have to be able to.

I honestly need this. You just do it, right? It's like, you know me here to be playing against men. Yeah, you know. It's much different than high school. You got to be coming in ready to work. You can't have, you can't come in slacking. Like, in high school, you could get away with maybe one, two days a week going in, like, half speed.

In college, you can't do that. They're going to be on you here. That one day that you come in half speed, the one day you get your spots. Yeah, that's what you get got right there. One day, that one day when you're slacking. How has things rolled up in Jackson, we go to balls, and then state. at home at J. Year. What does that mean? It means a lot, definitely. I haven't been in Jacksonville as long as only about three, three years by. Yeah, so definitely wouldn't consider myself as much

as a hometown here as some could consider me, but it's definitely great. I love the ability to stay home. I'm able to go home, see my parents whenever. I'm able to be able to get into the gym, getting into multiple gyms, have multiple workouts, see people on the week. It's great. That's amazing. That's amazing. What are you looking forward to most this year, Coach? You know what?

We have a great group of guys that have all really character. And so, you know, myself, our staff, we really talk with that, especially important, just getting in man of high character, like Andrew. And you know what? Every day, it's cool coming to practice, seeing the different personalities, getting the culture, and it's been really cool the last three weeks of summer school, just see how they've all come together. So really excited about our upcoming season. Really excited about coaching this young fellow to my left.

But it's going to be an awesome year. Well, man, you guys heard it. You know, there's a lot of determination factors with being a coach, being an athlete at this level. And the one thing I'm hearing a lot is leadership and partnership. And I can already see the bond that you guys have here. And I know you have that with the rest of your players and your coaching staff. I'm looking forward to watching you guys coming in person.

I want good seats now. You better put me on that list. So I'm going to hit you up. Like, hey, bro. I'm coming. I need food work. I know the game works, well. I know the game works, Ted.

But no, I just think you that's so much with coming on. I appreciate you. I just can't wait to see what you guys do. Thank you. Thanks, songs. I really appreciate it. I'll be working. Just know how I'm a go for mine.

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