Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - Focusing on the Work, Not the Reward with Eric Thomas

Episode Date: June 22, 2024

The conversation between Shawn French and ET revolves around the themes of determination, clarity, and personal growth. ET's famous speech on 'How Bad Do You Want It?' is discussed, highlighting the importance of having a strong desire for success. They also touch on the significance of clarity in achieving goals and how it has impacted ET's life. The conversation emphasizes the need to focus on the work rather than the reward, and the importance of consistency and habit-building. ET shares his personal journey of lacking clarity and how determination led him to where he is today. They discuss the mindset shift required to overcome self-doubt and the importance of negotiating with oneself to push through challenges. The conversation concludes with a discussion on turning up the internal thermostat and taking responsibility for personal growth. In this conversation, Shawn French and ET discuss the importance of taking care of one's health and the motivation behind it. They talk about the desire to be there for their families and the impact that their health has on their loved ones. They also discuss the struggle of finding balance in various areas of life and the need to change one's mindset in order to achieve that balance. ET shares his upcoming June challenge, where he will be coaching and guiding participants for 30 days to help them mentally and spiritually. The conversation ends with Shawn expressing his gratitude for ET's impact and their plans to meet in person. Key Conversation Points Having a strong desire for success is crucial in achieving goals. Clarity plays a pivotal role in personal growth and success. Focus on the work rather than the reward. Consistency and habit-building are key to long-term success. Negotiate with oneself to push through challenges and overcome self-doubt. Take responsibility for personal growth and turn up the internal thermostat. Taking care of one's health is important for the well-being of oneself and their loved ones. Finding balance in various areas of life requires a change in mindset. Coaching and guidance can help individuals stay motivated and focused on their goals. Being present and mentally and spiritually engaged in the moment is crucial for maintaining relationships. Changing one's behavior starts with changing one's mindset. Join ET's Challenge Click here- https://morein2024etchallenge.com/ Connect with Shawn- https://link.me/theshawnfrench   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What's up, man. How you feeling? Oh, man, I'm feeling Graham. I'm about a 125 right now, man. Been up since four, got my lifting, got my run, got my sauna. And here we are. I love it. I love it. I love it. You're in Houston right now, doing this from a hotel room. I appreciate you, brother. Yeah, no, no. I appreciate the opportunity.

And one of the things I'm grateful for in this generation is that we're more concerned with getting the working in, you know, than the environment. When I was coming up, you know, it was, TV was different. Like, everything was perfect. You know, everything was in a big studio. You know, now, man, we're just in our real habitat, in our real world. You know what I'm saying? Getting it in and I love it.

Well, dude, it's funny because we can go all the way back to that speech in 2008 for this, right? The how bad do you want it? And I can remember this. And I want to, this all ties in. I want to go over this with you because this played a big part in my life. I can remember when it got really big in 2012, I was coaching some baseball teams and, you know, we had some low performers. You know, we weren't the best team.

But I'm going to tell you what, when I heard how bad do you want it, it literally hair on in, man. I understood it completely because a lot of times, like you say, people are looking for the right moment, that moment where everything's fitting together. And it's really just very simple. How bad do you want it? You want success as badly as you want to breathe. So I just want to thank you for that, man, because, man, that's played a pivotal role in my life. You know, big time, dude, big time.

So this is, hey, hey. And it played a, it played and has played a pivotal role in my life as well. Yeah, a lot of, over 100 million, you know, views on the internet, which means I don't know how many people have literally had an opportunity to see that. But it's something that's still real today. People are listening to it. It was like a timeless message. I meet people, you know, all over there. Like, I watch that every day.

You know, when I'm in my darkest moments, I listen to that. And so it's one of those things that, you know, when you talk about not being perfect, even that moment we did it in, that was the first time we ever used the camera. That was the first time we ever used the microphone. You know, it was only 30 kids in that room. And it was probably one of the more inferior rooms. If you look at the actual video, we had a what they called back then a projector that you put, you would put a

like a transient piece of paper and lay it and then it would show the image on the wall. So it wasn't even you know what I'm saying? Like it wasn't even like a screen projector or you know a computer. But yet that pure moment has touched so many

people's lives and I think to your point you know sometimes we are focused on the perfect moment but if we would become the perfect person and whatever moment we are meaning at that particular time in our life, like elevating to the highest we can elevate,

man, you get a video with over 100,000, 100 million hits. And like I said, that video has changed my life, not only my life in terms of financial, professional, you know, but my children, you know, everybody knows that they're my kids. And so they walk through life, you know, a little different because of what happened that day. And so, man, that video is changed.

change yet the course of my life. Dude, it's insane because you're going through all this. You're talking about, you know, being perfect and not waiting for the right moment. That moment right there, when you're sitting there in that room, when you're, because you were a guidance counselor then, weren't you? Weren't you? Is that what you were doing this? Yeah.

So when you're getting in there and you're into that room, academic advisor. You never know the moments. You never know the moments that are going to take your life to the next level. What we need to do is have faith and trust that, Whatever moment we're in, that's the moment, right? Like, that's the moment right to LSP president in this moment. That's it because, you know, here we are 12 years later. From that going completely viral and not just your life and your children's lives,

but bro, you've changed many lives on this planet. And I think that's something that most people would just aspire to. How is it personally enriched your life and in your faith and everything that you're doing? having that impact. You know, I think clarity. You know, we all have gifts, you know, but when you hear from people who are being blessed by your gift,

you get the clarity in terms of, oh, this is what they want. Oh, this is what they need. Oh, this is how they need it. Oh, this is the timeframe in which they need it. Okay, got it. And so there's a clarity that I have when you meet the people

who you actually minister to and they're able to talk about what you mean to them and what the message means to them and so every time I do a message now I'm not shooting in the dark I know exactly today is leg day

you know what I'm saying? Today is bicep day tricep day you know today is cardio day you know like today we're spraining today you know we're not on sprints we're on pace you know because we're going a long distance, you know, find an easy pace if I do five miles. So it provided that clarity that you have in other industries.

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Visit good to know facts.org. Imagine you not knowing which parts of your body to work out. Like, bro, it would be, I'm not saying you wouldn't get results, but having that pure clarity allows you to hone in and get the type of results. that only clarity brings. And so for me, I have clarity. I know exactly what the people want. I know exactly how they want it.

So now I can focus on, you know, just getting better, developing my talent, developing my spirit, developing my character, developing my delivery. But I know exactly what they want. And so it's just been phenomenal, man. I've gone through life at a point where I didn't have clarity and it definitely doesn't look like the life that I live. I went without who's my father, you know, does my father love me?

I went, you know, do I know how to write? Do I know how to read? You know, I went homeless, you know, am I ever going to be stable again? So I've lived a life of not having clarity and I live the life of clarity. And boy, I tell you, it's a difference when you're walking through life with a sense of clarity. Yeah, I love that, man. And I want to focus on that because so many people see ET as ET, right? Like what has come since that video, but not a lot of people have taken time to really know exactly the journey.

They hear bits and pieces of it, right? But one of the things that you always say to complain is common, to focus on who loves me is common. We're here to be special. We're here to be great. And so we have to take responsibility and go through that, obviously, and feel those feelings. But come out on the other side as being a responsible human being. The biggest thing that I love, man, is I think, and I know that the world can relate to that. message, you have had those moments where you didn't have the clarity. Now, I know you mentioned

a few things that you didn't have clarity on, but can you share with my audience a little bit about that lack of clarity and how determination, because this is a determined society, right, podcast. So how can, how did determination lead you through to where you're at right now? Yeah, so, so I think, man, and I never even thought about this before, of course I was very determined. know, but I never thought about that word in my personal journey. But when you don't know, you're clueless, you know, and when you're clueless, you're shooting in the dark. Like, you don't, you don't have any idea of, you know, where you're going, what you're doing. So, so when I didn't have the clarity that I have now, you know, it's like driving somewhere

without a GPS system, driving somewhere without a map, like driving somewhere you don't know if you're going north or south. So all the efforts, that I put forth if I never got nothing from them. So I would always be frustrated. I would always be, you know, in a place of pain, you know, a place of fear, right? Because I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know where I was going, you know. It was, I was just going through life aimlessly.

But I remember seeing other people, my age, you know, starting to finish school, go to college, you know, or go get a trade. And it was like, whoa, I don't know where I'm going. And I don't know what I want, but I know what I don't want. And that's when determination kicked in. I was like, okay, I don't want to go to jail. Like, I don't know what I want to do in my life, but I don't want to go to jail. I don't want to die early.

And I have friends die early. I don't want to get shot and kill. And so it was this determination of I don't want to be another statistic. I don't want to be in the graveyard. So I got to figure out what I want to do. But determination was the thing that allowed me to go, don't do this and don't do that and don't do this and don't do that and don't do that and try to figure out what it is you're supposed to do. And eventually through determination, I did get clarity. No, I love that, man, because, you know, we can talk about determination and clarity, but you mentioned the GPS.

Everything we do in life on a daily basis has a roadmap, right? So whether it's financial or your career, you've got the plan of what you're going to execute. And at every single moment of that time, we don't want to. worry about if we're going to get there or not. We know that if we listen to the GPS, follow the plan, no matter what it is, we're going to end up to that destination. And I think a lot of people get caught up in it's not happening fast enough, right? I mean, I can remember sitting in this is straight up, man, I remember having conversations with Brandon. Hey man, how I get ET for my 100th episode? He's like, oh man, we'll get there, but we ain't there yet.

And bro, here we are. I didn't think about it every day. I just said, okay, Gas, foot, pedal, go, right? And built the show to a point where I have this opportunity, but at no point in mind, I think this ain't going to work, you know? And I think a lot of people get caught up in, well, this isn't working fast enough, and how do I know this is going to work, right? Whereas instead of trusting that GPS or that plan, what are some tips or advice that you might have for somebody?

Because I know you've got this big event coming up in June, right? June 24, you got this big online challenge and, you know, I can't wait for my audience to be a part of that. You know, and I'm sure they're going to get a lot of these things there. But like, talk to me about some of the tips and things that they can do to execute these plans and detach from the results, so to speak. Yeah, I think first you have to change your perspective. You just said it. You have to go from the reward to the work. You know, you have to stop folks.

on the reward. You have to know that the only thing that's going to stop you from getting a reward is if you stop working. But you don't get a reward without work. Like there's no way to get a reward if you're not working. And so I had to just go, hey, eat, forget the reward. Like, concentrate on the work. Every single day, you know, to your point, you know, I started running about three months ago and I was like, you know, I needed to, you know, shared about 20 pounds. You know, I was pre-diabetic. I said, I needed to share some pounds. And so I remember when I first started running, I used to be like, okay, how much further do you have to go, you know, you know, oh, today is today a short run or long run. You know, it's like, eat, bro, relax, you know, did you lose weight today?

It's like, bro, you're about, you're about to make the journey tiresome, boring. You're about to make it, you know, tedious. Like, yo, just get up. And however far you could go, go. And just do it every Monday, do it every Tuesday, do it every Wednesday. I first started, I could probably run about 20 miles nonstop. I mean, 20 minutes nonstop. I think I met over a little bit over an hour now.

When did it happen? I don't have a slight. I did when the ship happened. I just know it happened because I did it every day, you know, and to your point, you know, who cares about how long it's going to take as long as you know it's going to happen. So for me, it was like, e, you got to stop. When I first started, I had to have music. I got to a point where I can run now without music. You know, I don't know when that happened. I don't know when it happened. I just know it happened because I didn't stop. I didn't quit. I didn't give up.

I stopped worrying about how long does it take the run of mine, you know? How long does it take to lose five pounds? I just like eat, forget all of that. Just run. And so if we would concentrate on planting apple seeds, you know what apple tree is going to come. You're never going to get it. If you plant apple seeds, you'll never get it orange. You'll never get watermelon.

You'll never get grapefruit. The earth is smart enough to know that whatever, you sew into it, that's what it's going to get you back. And so for me, it was like, eat, stop worrying about weight and stop worrying about, you know, what your blood work is going to look like. And stop worrying about getting older. Stop doing that. Just get up and work. And if you run every day, if you do resistance three, four times a week, if you eat properly, it's just going to, it will just happen automatically. So stop focusing on the reward, focus on the work every day and I'll be honest I also have to realize that rest is work

that rest is a part of the work okay yes dude like that okay first of all I can see the jawline man I see you yeah I see you slim and you look good bro yes it's coming out you're looking like that young ET from 2012 man resistance pharing and running that's a fountain of youth right but I think it's important, right? And when we're looking at running plans and getting out there, well, that's an uncomfortable stuff, right? Your body feels bad. You know, the amount of pressure on your joints, depending on how much you weigh, you know, feeling a little jiggly, right, when you're running, who looking at me, where are we at here? But if we just can continue to move on, you know, and just say, hey, this is what I do. This is a part of who I am now. And that's where the magic

happens and that when that shift, when you don't know what happens, because you just turn into a different person, you know, after a couple weeks, like, dude, this is like normal now. This is what I do. And it's almost like, you can sit there. You can sit there in your hotel room or at home in Michigan, be like, yo, I don't feel like doing this. I'm not going, I'm going to negotiate with myself. And then all of a sudden, just by autopilot, maybe an hour later, you find yourself

putting on your sneakers because now it's a habit, right? And I think that too many people have that finish line. Myself included, right? It's like, oh, I want to lose 15, 20 pounds. Okay, but then what? But then what, right? So I think changing habits, changing lifestyle, changing the fabric of who we are

is what brings us to those moments that you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no question, Sean. And I would just say to everybody that's listening, you know, fight. till you get to the point where it's a habit, you know, like fight, like, don't worry about how long does it take, you know, am I losing weight? Is this thing working? Like, don't make that to focus. I believe the focus should be until you get to the point that that person

that's telling you to stop, telling you to quit and give up, I believe you should go until you can negotiate with that person and get that person to say, yeah, no, we're going to do this every day. Nope, no, no, no, no, like, nope, we're going to do this because this feels good. No, we're going to do this because we're being transformed every time we do it.

Like, I believe that when I first started, it was two erics. It was the Eric that had the dreams and the goals of, you know, getting that line back, you know, that jaw line back. And it was another Eric that was, saying, yo, in your health, you know, you may not be what you want to be, but, man, you're killing it in your marriage.

Man, look at what you're doing in terms of a speaker. Like, man, look at as a father, you put me in work. Like, why? Like, bro, you got about three or four areas that you're doing good in. You're not possibly going to do good in every area. Like, yo, chill, bro. Like, relax. Like, I don't care if you're overweight or not.

you're still putting out content that's changing the world. People are still grateful for, man, hey, you got one little area. You can't possibly be dominant. Relax, bro. She held, you know, and I had to negotiate with that person. And I had to get to the point where me and that person got on one accord, and we were able to say, you know what, whatever we're doing, that's the best in one area, Man, we need to do that in every area because we can.

We've shown that we could make this happen and speak it. We've shown we can go from a GED to a Ph.D., like we've shown, like, come on, God, work with me. You know, like, you don't get on the same page with me. You don't want to court with me. So I think everybody that's listening, you need to negotiate with that other person, and you and that person need to get on the same page and say, whatever our best is in one area, we're going to bring that to every area. It was so funny, Ed Milette said that, you know, like in his book, you know, one more, right?

It was the thermostat, the thermostat of your interest. So if your thermostat is set to 75 degrees as far as your health and fitness, you ain't never going to go higher than 75 degrees. So once you hit that 75 degrees, you sabotage, right? And that's what we all, I do, you have done in certain areas, everybody listening. Now, there's somewhere in our lives where we will not allow ourselves to get to that burning hot 100 degrees. or like you like to say that 120 right like we but but if we continually battle and fight that person that that critic in your own mind you can crank up the dial that internal thermostat

and and it's and it's a it's not a gift it is not given it is earned that's it that's it and and and and I'd like to say it's only earned when we believe it's important. Like literally now, guys, when you want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe, is when you start earning it. It's like, okay, it's not going to happen if I don't crank it up.

It's not going to happen if I don't want it. It's not going to happen if I don't desire. It's not going to happen on its own. I have to be very intentional and deliberate about making it happen. And so I've got to pull something out of me that's there, it's not naturally turned on, it's not, it doesn't work on its own, but it's there, it exists. And if I push it, if I pull it, it's going to come out. And I think when we get to that point where we're like, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to be responsible for making this happen,

for turning up to die. Like, I'm going to literally go to my health or go to my finances or go to my mental and emotional and I'm going to literally touch it, turn it, pull it up. I think that's when it happens. And I think all of us have that, but a lot of us are waiting for the Shans or the erics of the world to push us, you know, to encourage us. And it's like, yo, we can only do so much. We can get in your head, but we can't make you take your hand and do it and turn it up. And so I would just encourage and challenge everybody who's listening, figure out what that 75 set is for you, that 80 set for you, and just determine, look, I'm not going to die at here. You know, it's interesting because that right there, what you're talking about, that internal

dialogue that everybody struggles with. For me, you're talking about your health journey. When did you start that, by the way? How long ago? Do you remember? Yeah, it had to be the, we're in June, it had to be the end of February. Bro, I started the same time. I started the same time. I was 230 pounds, you know, and I just looked bad. You know what I mean? I saw a picture of me at a football game.

I came up on TV. My friend took a picture of it, posted it on Facebook. I'm like, oh, hell. What are you doing to me, bro? Like, who is that fat kid? And then, it's funny because it was an LSU game. So I played baseball. LSU, right? So after the game, my wife and my son, we got on the field. It was the ball game,

and we got to take pictures with the players, Jaden Daniels, you know, Heisman Trophy winner, all these number one draft picks. And I'm looking at these pictures. I'm like, who is that? I don't know who that is. And it took me about another month and a half. Then I did a TED talk. And I saw the pictures. I'm like, yo, uh-uh, we're done here. We're done here. And it was a different push for me this time, though, man. I gotta be honest because like aesthetically we all want to look good, right? We all want to look good. You know, we want to go to a vacation with our family, take our shirt off at the pool and the beach and be like, all right, you know, daddy looks good, right?

And the wife happy. And we're happy. We're secure. I think the biggest thing for me, man, was I want to be here for my kids. You know, I want to be healthy for my three beautiful children and my wife because if something happens to me, their life is going to be immediately impacted change. Are they going to be okay long term? Yeah. But if I can hold off on any traumatic event for them by losing their father by taking care of myself, doggone it, I'm going to do it.

Did that play into the equation for you? Yeah. You know, for me, man, it was, and I have to be honest and say, it's what you were talking about before with E. My Lent and that set. You know, I had gotten to a point in my life. where I had just given up on trying in the health board, you know. I just was like, yo, I don't have another, you know, to run a marathon, you know, for me to run 10, 11 miles, you talk about two hours. I was like, bro, I don't have another two hours in my day, you know what I'm saying?

I just don't have another two hours. Like, you know, I'm in a healthy marriage. So, you know, wife and I, you know, work together. so we spent a lot of time together. You know, I'm getting up doing my spiritual stuff. You know, it just was like, bro, I just don't got another two solid hours to give to something. You know, I just don't have it.

And is it worth the two hours like, okay, if I die in 75 versus 90? You know what I'm saying? All of these excuses, all of this stuff, you know, and then it got to a point where it was just like, you know what, E? If you die Because you didn't try That's weak

That's weak, bro Like you're less than a man If you leave your family here And you didn't try to do something With your health You didn't try to push past You know average That's weak E

And so for me it was just the motivation of Hey they're telling you you pre-diabetes They're telling you pre-hypertension Like you got to do something about that And it was like, okay let me let me okay let's go and again once you start doing it then I had the strength every day like I'm gonna fight this I'm gonna fight this I'm a fight this I'm a fight this but before I actually did anything I was like man I I can't I'm just not gonna be able to beat this one I'm not gonna be

be able to outdo this one like it got me but then again once I started it was like whoa I like the results you know they're putting the blood pressure cup on you know going and looking at my blood work I was like, oh, I'm like, okay, okay, okay. I like this. This is cool. We get behind it a little bit. Maybe I can do it. Maybe I can do it.

Yeah. Well, you know, some dude that I admire once said, you owe you. Right. Right. And it's funny because, like, you know, and again, dude, I'm sure your wife does it to you too, but my wife will tell me, like, what do you tell all the athletes you coach? We talk about all on your show, about determination, but we all struggle in some things. So for the audience listening right now, like, really, really,

close your eyes and think about this, right? Because we're sitting here with Dr. Eric Thomas, man, E.T. himself. And he just admitted that he has things with himself that he negotiates just because we do things and we can like the pilot for a lot of you guys and motivate you, but we still struggle. You know, and I think as men, it's, dude, it's big to admit that. So I appreciate that about you, man, because not a lot of men, not a lot of men. Not a little We'll talk about that. Yeah. And I, Sean, I think it's unfair to let people have the assumption that we got it all together.

Like, I think it's unfair, you know, for people to look at us and go, oh, he don't have no area he's struggling in. And then now you're looking at yourself like, I'm a failure. No, you need to know, yeah, there's some areas that we're killing it in. And you two can kill it in. And there's some areas that we're struggling in. that eventually if we change our mindset, we're going to kill it in that area too, you know. And then when we're killing it in multiple areas,

now it's the balance thing that we got to try to, you know, because I can't lose my marriage for my muscles. And I can't lose my muscles for my mental and emotional. You know what I'm saying? So it's like even when I'm running now, I'm saying, okay, this is also a time to get the mental thing right. Like, okay, you're running. Can we get the mental thing right?

away here so I'm praying, you know, I'm detoxing, you know, I'm shutting the world off, I'm meditating. I'm like, yo, if it's going to take me an hour to run these five, six miles, then this is going to be a mental time for me. This is going to be a time where I get out toxins and where I start believing in myself and I start, you know, concentrating on things that, you know, are critical and important to me. I start reflecting on what's working, what's not working with adjustments. So it's like, even when I'm doing what I'm doing, you still have to be careful because when you start killing it in multiple areas, you can't lose one the gain and the other one. And you've got to find that balance to make sure that it's all gains.

And there's no gains and losses. Because I see guys who, man, killing them professionally, but their kids can't stand their guts or their wife. You know, it's like, where are you? Like, you're gone all the time. And so to kill. Kill it is important, but not what to sustain and maintain while you're killing it is also important. Dude, I think, you know, we talk about the balance. That word balance, dude, like, and it's misconstrued, right? Because you're never going to be able to give eight hours of the family a day, eight hours to work, eight hours of fitness.

So that thought of balance to me is like, I get it, but no, right? So I think what's most important, though, is how can you execute the things that you need to? when it's your time to do that, like for you, the running, the lifting. But then when you're home with you, with your wife and your kids, now we're present. That is hard because, now, I'm not at the level you're at, but I'm going to tell you my phone doesn't stop. Somebody always wants something from me, right? And I'm always moving and shaking, right?

So there's a lot of times where I'm efforting to be present, but then I also falter and I answer a text message. And, you know, that chips away. For my wife, she's like, yo, just, dude, just leave it there until 8.30 when the kids go to bed and then answer. So those are, you know, like our wives are so important, right? Like, I love my wife. And she keeps me honest. She lets me know, like, hey, bro, you got a lot of room to grow.

And I'm just now starting to be so much more open to certain things that she's been telling me since we've been married. And so I'm on my own little journey now. But, but man, the art of being. present is the most useful art, in my opinion. Absolutely, bro. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, and I think we have to philosophically, you know, make some adjustments because

if you just change your behavior without changing philosophically what you believe, it's not, it's not going to work. So I give you guys an example, you know, I'm not the person that believes or grew up. My mom was a worker, you know, so it was kind of like in our home, everybody was domestic, right? My mom, you know, she wasn't a stay-at-home mom. And so she kind of trained us on, okay, you got to cook for your sisters. You're going to have to wash clothes. You know what I'm saying?

Certain things you have to do to maintain. So I've got a friend of mine who watches me, you know, in my home, you know, wash clothes, you know, vacuum, whatever. And so they were like, man, I want to do that, you know. But it didn't really work in their marriage. And I was like, girl, first of all, you don't have to do what I'm doing. But it was like, you know, I think my wife would love it. But the problem was he grew up in a culture where, you know, women were domestic. And so it's like, yo, you can't.

Like, there's nothing wrong with your belief. Like, if that's what works for you, that's what works for you. First of all, you can't compare to what somebody else is doing. Like, what works for you, works for you. But you would have to change seeing your wife as domestic and then seeing yourself as domestic as well for that to work. You can't see what I'm doing, but still have a certain mind. and try to do my behavior.

So I always tell people, if you change your mindset, you've got to do that first before you can change your behavior. So I'm with my wife. We're at dinner the other day, we're at breakfast, I mean lunch the other day. My son is with us too. He had traveled with us to do some videography work for me. And I get a message from, you know, one of our board members. And I'm just going to be honest, Sean.

I did not have to answer the message. The message was urgent, but it was not urgent in terms of time sensitive. It was just urgent in terms of the matter. Right. So, Sean, I answered a call. And my wife says to my son, oh, I'm used to that. Right? And for me, it's like, okay, eat.

I'm at a place in my life now where I've got a guy who runs our car. company. So I don't have to do day-to-day stuff no more. So when I'm with her, I can't be present now because somebody's running day-to-day. But, Sean, the problem was, philosophically, I'm still on that. You got to answer calls in 24 hours. Yeah, you got to, 24 hours, you've got to answer phone calls. Yeah. You feel me? So it's like, it's everything, right? Answering everything. Everything. Yeah, man. Yeah. Is there still a level? But I had to say to myself, Sean, I had to say to myself in that moment, though, you did not have to answer. You could have answered it later.

Like, it wasn't time sensitive. So I got to change my mind in that you don't have to be the 24-hour guy no more. You're 30 years in your career. You got somebody else running your stuff. You kind of pull back. You can really pull back for real, for real now. Like, you don't have to be as engaged as you want. But to your point, Sean, it's got changed.

And so I'm telling them. you can kill it in every area, but you have to change some of the ways you think about things in order to be able to do that. I love it, man. I want to ask you one more question that I want you to talk about your event, okay? And I think every man,

every married man right now and every wife that's listening wants to know the answer to this question. How did you respond to what your wife said to your son? You know, I responded silently, but like she's absolutely right. And to be honest, Sean, if we were in a different season, 10 years ago, 12 years ago,

I just would have been like, boo, I'm being real with you. We got to eat, and I got to do this in order to eat. Bro, I've been doing this over 30 years. I got a team now. I don't have to be as engaged now as I was. Now, everybody's not at that point in their career, but I'm at that point in my career after 30 years. It's on cruise control.

And so it was like, okay, she's right. This isn't 12 years ago. And you're going to have to learn that, hey, it's okay not to answer immediately because they're not even asking you to do that no more. But that's just the way I was trained, you know, grind, grind, grind. And so rest and relaxation and being present in the moment is a new thing, you know, that I'm working on. But it's like absolutely right. And I put my phone on Do Not Disturb.

So I even change the way people can have access to me these days. And I just got to tell myself, stop, Eric, know that. Dude, it's hard, man. It's like you're smacking yourself and it's hard because you got, okay, you're here. Like, all right, Sean, you're here. But then when Sean gets here, he still thinks he's here. And that's the same thing that you go through, like 30 years and you're still answering a message when you're out brunch.

I'm like, you've got plenty of people to take care of that now, but you can't take the dog out of the dude, right? Because in your mind, you have had those moments where you didn't have clarity. You have been homeless, right? So you're sitting there like, oh, no, I got to eat still, right? So to your point, philosophically, as men and as individuals, we need to change the perception of what's going on and how we view things before we can, you know, take those actual steps day to day to show that we don't have to do that anymore.

So I know we're running low on time. You've got to get to the airport to get back home. Talk to us about your June challenge that's coming up. I want the audience to know what's up. In January, we started the year off with everybody, 30 days, right? 30 days. Just to help people mentally and spiritually, you know, get on the right foot. a lot of people were on fire for about 30, 45 days afterwards.

So this is kind of like, hey, guys, if you love me being your coach for those 30 days, it's time for us to go back and restart the process because a lot of you, you've fallen off. You were on fire. You were strong. You've fallen off. So I'm about to 30 more days. I'm about to be with you in your head, in your mind. And I did it because there are a lot of people who watch me online,

but you're not getting the same instruction when I do it, you know, 30 straight days, you know, 30 straight days. So that's all it is, is just, yeah, yeah, just on the phone with me every day and me just walking 30 minutes, me coaching you on mentally, spiritually, and emotionally what you need to do to kill today. Oh, I love that. Let me ask you a question. I'm sure my audience is going to be dying for this answer.

Now, for the working mom, the working dads that can't be on live, are they able to listen to playback and really dive in on their own time and still be coached by you? Yeah, yeah, no question. Yeah. That's awesome, man. I went through it. I went through it last night.

Look good. As many times as they want. Yeah, but super excited. They can watch as many times they want, ask questions, answer their question. But you're going to get that passion. you know, get that instruction like I was at Florida, you know, Florida State, you know, Clippers basketball, you're going to get that same E.T. 30 straight days.

Dude, that's amazing, man. You're going to have a bunch of people at 120 ready to run through brick walls, bro. No question. And I know that takes a lot of time for you and your team to put together. And I think it's great that you're doing it out there for, you know, people that no love and trust you and that want to be a part of your circle, but can't necessarily, you know, be there in front of you day to day. I mean, it's just,

that's just not the reality, right? But to have that influence in people's lives and people to accept that, I'm definitely going to do it because, you know, I want a little bit more. And I told Brandon, I was like, hey, bro, hey, this, this little interview ain't the last that you all are going to see in me. Like, I'm a, I'm, hey, he, and he goes, oh, no. Where are you?

I'm in Florida. Where in Florida? Which part? You know, Fort Myers, Florida. Florida, like Naples area? Yeah, yeah. Okay, got it. Yeah.

I want to come in the studio. I want to come. Whenever. Yeah. You want to come here. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Done. Done. You know, that sounds like a blast to me. So we'll coordinate that with Brandon and, you know, get that going. And that will be a lot of fun, man. That will be a blessing. And me and you in person, I think it would be. Come on a workout.

Come on, dude. We'll get some, we got some content. We get some content, too. We'll do a workout together. You name it. You name it. We'll figure that out offline. but hey man, I appreciate you, bro.

And it's been surreal for me to connect with you. And, you know, after all these years of listening and being inspired by you, thank you. There's a bunch of people here that, you know, I've played your videos for in sales meetings that, you know, it was their first exposure. And so you made an impact, man. And I can't wait to wrap it you in person. So it'll be fun. Likewise. Yep.

Likewise. Yep. Be blessed in to them. I'll see you before. We'll make it happen before the end of the year. Can't wait, bro. Can't wait. Hey, everybody, share this episode with everybody you know.

Check out by the show notes for the link to sign up for the challenge. Dive into it, guys, because there's no one better. He's a true soldier. He's a true man of faith. I love him. You'll love him. E.T. Thank you so much for being on the show, bro.

Man, thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you, fam. I'll see you soon. You got it, baby. Take care, man.