Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - From Addiction to Hero: Adam Jablin's Journey of Recovery and Self-Discovery - Adam Jablin

Episode Date: December 4, 2023

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They're exactly like us. You know, they're working their asses off. They're reaching out to people. They're making content. Their life is not a highlight wheel. You know, they have off days. They have off seasons. They have, you know, yes, they're doing well, but they have, you know, business is business.

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What's up, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the podcast, Determined Society. I've tried to record this like a thousand times and I keep fucking up the intro. So here's the deal. Follow the show. Leave us a review. Tell me what you love about it. Today, I have with me a man that was featured in Forbes magazine. He is an addiction and mental health expert. He's a recovery and performance coach. He is the founder of the Hero Project in Your Way to Freedom. I have with me, my boy, Adam Jablum. What's up, homie? Sean, thank you so much.

This is overdue, huh, brother? I mean, I'm grateful that we're together right now. Dude, me too, man. You know, it's funny when we connected a couple days ago. And it was like this instantaneous, like, why haven't we done this before? What the hell is wrong with us? But what we realized, this is for the audience,

don't judge yourself. Like, really, there's so many people that you're connected with, so many things that you feel like you should be doing. But that's not necessarily healthy for the mind, is it? Dude, that's the, poison. That's the trick, right? I should be doing this. I need to be doing this fear of missing out. You know, I should be here. I should be there. Listen, that was a part of my alcoholism and addiction, just that restless, irritable, discontent. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So even though I'm not drinking

and doing drugs, that thing can still go. Dude, it's funny. Which one is your big vice? Because I want to, I want to share with you in the audience, mine, the one that really gets me all fucked up. back in the day, like when I was, like, when I was using or now? Just those programs, like the shooting, like you should be doing this, like the comparison, I should be here, I should be there by now. Which one of those is your kryptonite? Oh, dude. I would have to say, I would have to say if I'm in the wrong mindset and I'm on Instagram,

do you know what I mean? And I'll just see some of our colleagues, our friends, or people I admire just crushing. it and that will play into my head a little bit. I need to be doing this. I need to be doing that. And just some of my old wiring from back in the day of, you know, not really, not realizing where I stop and someone else starts and just wanting to do it, over, do it, overdo it, overdo it. Do that's profound because, listen, mine's the same thing. I'll be scrolling on Instagram and I'm like, man, I'm not doing enough. Like this person's killing it. I admire that person. But I'm like, I want to be that guy.

Like, what is going on? What do I need to fix? What do I need to change? What, what, what? What? Then all of a sudden, we're this low vibrational frequency. And we're just toast that day. And it really, you know, if you can't, if you can't shift your perspective or your paradigm in that moment,

you're going to have a rough day. So, I mean, dude, I'm with you on that one. Yeah. I'm with you. Like, I like the kryptonite like reference because you have Superman in the background. That wasn't intentional, but it worked. It was not intentional. how I think, how I speak, how I perceive the world.

You know what I mean? But it's the truth. It's the truth. And, Sean, something that has happened. I know what's happened for you, but it's happened for me, especially this last year, year and a half is I've gotten to spend quality time and break bread and really enjoy a lot of the people I admired that were my hero, you know, these really big names. And when I was able to do that, what I realized is they're exactly like us.

Yeah. They're exactly like us. us, you know, they're working their asses off. They're reaching out to people. They're making content. Their life is not a highlight reel. You know, they have off days. They have off seasons. They have, you know, yes, they're doing well, but they have, you know, business is business. They have cash flow issues. They have, like every single person we meet, every single one, no matter how big the name is, is still going through it. Dude, it's a good point to make. And I want everybody to really dive into this. I mean,

because the people that you see on Instagram, yeah, there are some successful people, but you know, everybody has problems. You know, everybody has something that's messing with their minds or their, you know, I guess you would say their progress or their momentum. You know, a lot of new, new people, like, I don't know if this is what you're facing, but for me, like straight up, I'm going to be honest. It's that undercapitalization in the business, right? You are fighting to get that capital so you can invest back into your business and into

yourself. It's a difficult situation. but for those that have made it, they might have problems and things holding them back that we don't see, right? Maybe they're spending too much time away from their kids and it bothers them and it makes them sad, but they know they have to because of the life that they've created.

They've got to stay steadfast in that so they can still provide. It's a double-edged sword, man. Yeah, and dude, it's like whack-a-mole, right? One day it won't be, let's say, it won't be our cash flow or it won't be this in the business, right? We whack that, but it'll be the time with the children at the time with our spouses. And if it's not that and you whack that one up, you know, it's something personal.

It's losing a parent. It's losing, it's just life is going to continue to come. So it's how do we deal with it? This is great because this is all ties into something that we have a lot of alignment in is mental performance, performance coaching. Like all these things that you're talking about can derail somebody from being on a hot streak, whether it's business or sports or just even under their own roof, right? And then something else can happen.

It can completely derail them. So, like, dude, like mental performance is something that I don't think it's not a, I mean, you go on Instagram, everybody's talking about it. But in the real world, people aren't really paying attention to it. Why do you think that is? It's okay not to be perfect with finances. Experian is your big financial friend and here to help. Did you know you can get matched with credit cards on the app?

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Stay smart, safe, and protected with a 30-day free trial at LifeLock.com slash podcast. Terms apply. Well, you know, I think that, first of all, I do think the world is starting to shift. I think it's starting to come to the idea of, I don't know if they're going to say mental performance, but I definitely think mental health is, is, is all over the place. A lot of times where I've been asked to do a news segment or ESPN or whatnot, they don't even want to categorize it under alcoholism addiction. They want to talk about mental health. And, you know, Sean, why I think that is, is I think you and I are hybrids,

and we're taking a baton from the generation before us, and we're the ones that are going to actually make this extremely popular, right? And then we're going to pass it to the younger generation. I think it's just, it's a timing thing personally. You know, when we were kids, I don't know if we were exactly the same age, but, you know, when I was, Joe Montana and Jordan and, you know, these guys, they weren't talking about mindset and mindset coaches and mental health performance. It was, you know, it was a commercial. It was just do it. It was get in the game. It was practice, practice, practice.

And I think now we're starting to learn what it really took to make these people tick. Yeah. And there's a name for it. You know, it truly is mindset and performance and words like these niche words. Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that because they weren't talking about the mental performance. They weren't talking about mindset. But if you look at the quote, just do it. Or if you look at Michael Jordan saying, you know, you miss 100% of the shots that you don't take.

That's all mindset. That is all mindset. Phil Jackson, like he was the first kind of like, I don't know if he was the first, but the first heavily, you know, um, reported on kind of like that, that mental, that law of attraction type,

you know, dude. And it took the Bulls to six championships in what, seven years. Like it, I mean, it was crazy. But like the thing that I really enjoyed about Michael Jordan, if you watched the last dance,

remember when he was walking down the corridor, like getting to the stadium? He's like, Hey, I love y'all, but can I just be present right now? That is so hard to do. But I think that's also why he was so great. It's because he was able to be present on that court and just be the dude. I mean, there's a lot of reports that he's, you know, not a very nice person,

but like, I mean, who says that? Someone that's jealous of him or someone that is to understand the confidence level that you have to have as an elite performer like him. Yeah. You know, that thing, that documentary came. out during COVID. And I remember, I must have watched it on repeat, you know, a hundred times it felt like. And there was, within that same scene, there was a friend of his quoting that Michael's greatest gift was he was always here now. He said, like other guys, they go to Hashrams, they go here

to meditate, they go here to learn Zen Buddhism. But Michael was always present. And he never worried about a shot that he hadn't taken yet. He was just in the now. And he said, that was his super, superpower. He was a mystic. He was constantly here now, never in the future, never in the past. The shot that he just missed doesn't even remember it. The shot he's about to take, he's not worried about it. He's just right here. Dude, that's more powerful than I think anybody listening right now can really imagine. Don't really about the shot that you haven't taken yet. How many times in life, for you, all y'all that are listening, and then even, you know, me and Adam here having this conversation, how many times?

have you all worried about something that hadn't even happened yet, right? Like, oh, if I try, you know, I have the sales call coming up. Like, don't worry about the sales call. Just go. Just perform. And I think that a lot of times we don't have those short memories like we need to have. You know, we're caught up on the past, which creates depression. We get caught up in the future. It creates that anxiety. What about just being present, man? So how do you help your clients work through that, dude? Well, bro, that, you know, that's my love and that's my passion. And it depends on where they are in their journey. The Hero Project is really aligned around the hero's journey.

It's also got ideas and philosophies from the 12 steps, from the Old Testament, from the New Testament, from my own business background, from I've gotten to, you know, be mentored by Phil Jackson. You know, from my personal mentor, Dion, I've gotten to meet these icons. And what I do when somebody is truly, truly not present is I get them centered by first, we do some breathing exercises. But I need to always make sure, always, that I'm speaking a common language with them, Sean. A lot of times at the very beginning with one with the client, they're not present because they're not hearing me. We're not speaking the same language. So when I get to understand how they really think, what they really believe, understand their lingo, I still have some jersey in me, I still have a kid that grew up in the 80s and 90s. When I could find out their dynamic, now we got in the same frequency.

You know, now there's communication. And that's a way to get them here now. And then depending on where they are in their life and what obstacle they're facing, you know, there are exercises and, you know, certain parameters. things that we do that will get them to be totally here now. Truth, Sean, truth, the main objective, you know, the main objective and the main issue that I see can be boiled down to two really simple things almost daily for my clients. One is making the decision to do the things that they really need to do, right? Which is, it sounds easy, but can be harder, right?

It can be hard. And then making the decision. to not do the things that they really want to do. Right? It sounds so clean and cliche and easy, but those two choices can really wrap you up. And that's the idea of being here now. That's why we need to be here now.

Dude, that's huge. You put a post out there in real. You're walking. It doesn't need to be a 5K. It doesn't need to be a half marathon. But every day you need to move your body. it allows you to, you know, become more with yourself, your spiritualness, become sinner, be present.

So, but, you know, when you said that or when you posted that, I really thought about my own life. It's like, wow, man, I'm right now in so many ways, I'm doing the things I want to do instead of the things I don't want to do. And I think as mental performance coaches and as professionals and adults and shows, we can, we can get so wrapped up in certain things and then other things slip. So it's always nice. You know, when I'm able to, you know, consume something from somebody I respect. I'm like, thank you. Like, you just told me what my whole issue is right now.

Like, I am not pursuing the things I don't want to do. And a lot of times, and this is how people get, man, they want that instant gratification. I don't care if it's food. I don't care if it's just, I just want to watch TV. We're going for the easy road, which makes our life hard. Yeah. And bro, thank you for saying that because here's the truth. We all need each other.

You know, that's why God made so many of us. It's, you know, I'm not hitting grand slams every single day. Yeah. I mean, I'm not just meeting every single shot. We all need each other. And if you make a piece of content that speaks to me or vice versa, or you and I find something from maybe Tim Grover or Tony Robo, whatever it is, you know, we all need these little aha moments and these little wake-up calls, you know, because the day that I'm crushing

it could be a great day that I can help you and a day that I'm really suffering and you're telling it, you could give me that. And that's, you know, that's that giving, that give and take. You know, you're, you're right. You know, and this is something that I don't think many people, this is my, this is my assumption, which I know assumptions are bad, but not too many people are going to look at it like that, right? If they see you doing good, that means I can't do good, right? Like that's, that's, that's whack. All right, guys, for those of you listening, the people that you follow on Instagram. If someone triggers you and you don't like what their content is, like, just get them off your feet, okay? But the other thing is you're to ask yourself why it's triggering

you. If it's triggering you because you're seeing a young woman or a young man absolutely crushing it and you're sitting there and you feel like you haven't hit any grand slams or even a freaking single for that matter in such a long period of time, I'm going to challenge you to dive more into their content, okay? Because you're going to find out so much shit about yourself that you need to improve. And the biggest thing that you need to improve at that point is fucking abundance. You need to look at this world and look at success like it's infinite because guess what it is. It totally is bro. 100% is. I couldn't agree with you more. It's an abundant world. God has given us everything we need. It truly is aligning to that. And these kind of conversations

used to sound very new age and very, you know, like woo. But look, even probably. You know, it's in the New Testament. Moses said it is in the Old Testament. It's just depending on the words, right? But if you ask, the father will deliver. You know, asking you shall receive. And it's just getting our minds to the fact that we can have it. I just think we need to look more in terms of like when we see someone doing amazing things.

It is just evidence showing you what is possible in your life, what you can create. Because the one thing that people will say to me, and this is something that I chuckle at, you know, kind of offline. Well, I'm not like you, Sean. I'm not a great order. I can't hold conversation like you have. No one's going to want to listen to anything I have to say. I go, have you listened to episode one through 20? Yeah. Terrible. Terrible. Like, guys, you grow into your craft. And here's something counterintuitive, what people, you know, really need to understand is people want to see your growth. They want to see you really bad at first and then see what you've evolved into. it shows them a path.

It shows them they don't have to be perfect. Listen, perfection is a problem. In the Hero Project, later in the journey, we call it Spirit Over Scoreboard, right? Meaning, look, I have to have to try that one thing that they always want to do. I don't care if it's a celebrity, professional athlete. What I learned, especially before I was in this and I was the number one, I was in a family business. We were the number one designer manufacturers for lace intimate apparel. It wasn't like handing me.

Trust me. This was like, this was like the military. I was first one there, last one to leave, keep the javel name sacred. It taught me how to run a business, taught me how to run an empire. And it was the first child. It always was the first child. But one of the reasons I am bringing the business background up is that it gave me an understanding that in the beginning you are going to suck. When you try something new, you're.

I used to have all these people that would help. they would be a professional athlete or a rock star and they would want to come into fashion they found what i did attractive you know i mean and i would have to explain your first garment whatever it is the first it's going to suck it's going to suck and now i do that with my clients if it's their first podcast if they want to write a book if it's their first piece of content and whatever they want to do in the beginning they're going to suck oh but you got to keep your spirit high you got to keep your spirit high you know you got it like riding a bicycle yes you're going to fall but keep that spirit high you're going to fall get back on the horse and keep going and like you said

it was 20 you know 20 reps 20 podcasts for you until you found your rhythm until you found your voice and that's normal i mean dude it could be way more than that to be clear i mean maybe it was up to i'm going on episode 93 or something by the time this comes out might be episode 94-ish coming up on that century mark awesome but maybe i don't thank you thank you for that but i don't know if I really hit my stride until episode 75. Like really? And I know what I mean? You know like fuck man.

Just be honest with each other right. It was I used to get nervous before every show. I mean today I fuck up the intro like seven times. But that's abnormal for me. But you know what? The old Sean would have been like, oh my God. I suck. This is terrible.

This is bad. I still get nervous. Just so you know, I still get nervous. I get nervous before a podcast. I get nervous before. for speaking engagement. I get a little nervous before I see a client. I always say a prayer.

And I really started learning that some of that anxiety that you and I have is a good feeling. It's because we care. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's going to allow us to come and really be on our game. I think it's a little scary when you don't have that anymore. It means you don't care. You know, there's.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's like that. It's not like you and I are nervous. Rex. there's just a little bit of warrior anxiety that you want to do your best. And I think that's healthy.

Yeah, man. You know, I think, you know, because it's art, right? It's art. My art is this show. My art is what I put out on Instagram. And I want every piece of art to speak to somebody in some way. And that's why, and it's funny because, you know, you may have noticed, I don't script my interviews.

Like, I don't even know where we're going with this conversation. Because it's a real conversation. Too many podcasts are scripted. I love these. nonscripted interviews because it gives a peek behind the curtain of what these people are really like. I want my audience to know who Adam Javlin is, not what he does, right? And by the way, you're doing an amazing job of that right now. So I love it. It's a great, great conversation so far. So I appreciate you hopping on on a holiday. Oh, man, I was pumped. I was pumped. When we said we could figure it out

within 48 hours, I was like, let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah. Peak performers, baby. Peak performers. I mean, that's what it is. We're responsible motherfuckers. Fucking, hey, man. It's like, oh, like, we're going to get on this interview. Let's do it now. Let's do it now.

Because you know what? You know, when you feel something, guys, you got to go for it. Right. You got to go for whatever it is that you want to do. But, man, back to the conversation. Like, I don't think, you know, I still, I don't think, you know, I'm going to be where I'm going to be, right? But, I mean, the fact that is I'm so much better than I was, like, that, that is an

improvement. And going back to what she said about, be willing to suck had something. I can't even listen. Yeah. I can't even listen to my first episodes. And matter of fact, sometimes for fun, I'll go back on Instagram. I'll scroll all the way down on my grid and start and then hit play on a reel like that I, when I just started this, I'm like, oh my God, you're so bad. But it's so amazing because you can see the growth. And I encourage everybody to just be in that mindset of 1% better every day or just do something. to improve because if you're seeking perfection, you're never going to hit it.

How do you think, this is a good question, how do you think people blow up their lives by seeking perfection? Oh, I mean, I don't want to be too long-winded, but it-do it. You know, with the personalities that you and I have met, and I can also use eye statements in there from certain times where I felt like I had to be perfect. It's either paralysis by analysis. I'm not even going to do it. I'm not even going to put something out there.

I'm not even going to try because I keep analyzing what's going to happen wrong. They do something and they can't even enjoy either A, the criticism or the, hey, we can do this better or the applaud and the add-a-boise and that on the back because they're so locked in their head of that it wasn't the way they wanted it to be that they can. can't take the, hey, you know, if you just adjust here, it will be amazing. That feels too personal rather than, oh, wow, no, somebody's watching. Somebody cares enough that they want me to become better. Somebody loves me enough to tell me the truth to say, if I adjust that two millimeters, this can become really something special. Or they can't even receive a genuine compliment because it wasn't perfect. Like, I don't know if you know this. I talk about all the time, my true mentor is the spiritual father is Dion the Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, right?

And he's got 10 gold records or making a Broadway play about his show, about his life, excuse me, called The Wander. And one of the things he taught me, which I loved and I embodied it is, you know, rock and roll can't be perfect. Rock and roll. So why would we try life to be, why would we try to make life to be perfect? You know, sometimes you just pick up the guitar. and riff.

You know, no one said it had to be perfect. And I don't know why, but since it had to do with music and I'm not a musician, and since I admire and I respect him so much, it was like a permission slip to fuck up.

Yeah, there it is. There it is. I think for me, man, I don't, I mean, I don't know about everybody, as far as their fear of criticism comes from other places, for me,

it comes from my childhood. You know, going, I played baseball, right? I played baseball, you know at LSU and you know when on the way up though I'd get in the dreaded walk to the truck man after a game dude that shit was real dog that shit was real and I'd go up and I'd have a good game like you know four out bats a double in a home run or something cool like that but maybe I struck out

or popped up the other one that's all I heard in the truck on the way home you suck you struck out what's going on you missed that one ball in the dirt you didn't block that ball you didn't do this you didn't do that so you know naturally I thought I'm like oh well then I have to be perfect. And what happens is when you have to be perfect, you can't even celebrate your wins. Here's the one thing that I have a really hard time with Adam is like if I get a client, I'm like, all right, well, it's not good. I need, I need five more because we have five more than I'm successful. It's like, wait a second, that that's the perfection thing kicking in. And so that is the one thing that prolifically holds me back in this business is the need to be perfect. You know, it's hard.

Sean, I could pass you a gift. I could pass you a gift that was given to me because I had the same thing and it really worked. It really worked. I had the same thing. I want it. I want it. Yeah. I mean, look, it's not a real gift if I don't give it away, right?

I don't get to keep it if I don't give it away. Those are the rules. So what I ended up learning to do, having to do because that mindset wasn't shifting was I had to, A, be so grateful, so grateful. and blessed that one client. Just be so grateful. Like I had that one or two, whatever it is we had that, right, whatever,

the three, but be so grateful for them. And then put every inch, every ounce, every, every last bit of effort and love into them. Because what would happen is, when I did that,

those three clients that one would get me three. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So rather than you get it, what I don't, have. I looked at what I had. I blessed them, right? I was grateful for them. And then I poured as much as I could into them and then they gave back. And that was a hard thing for me to do too as well. I used to have a very tough time and still can't have a tough time receiving. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So I have to learn

how to be a good receiver as much as I love to give. Other than that, the scales out of balance. Yeah, it's a good point, man. It's a really good point, you know. And again, I pour into my clients, like he said, but the overall feeling inside of like, I'm so grateful for that one client or that two, those two clients, those three clients, like just give him everything. And, you know, we work really hard on my end and doing that. Because I work with athletes, you know, I have an SEC athlete as, you know, a private client. I got a couple of pro guys that I'm working on. And I have this amazing entrepreneur in Reno, Nevada. And I think he could actually run for Merritt and win. and so we're working on with him getting over certain programs, right, to feel that he has

his own permission to run for mayor, right? But, but dude, it's super important because when we're coaching these people, sometimes I feel like I'm coaching myself. And it's really amazing on what you attract as far as your clients. You're like, oh my God, is this me? Like, what's going on? And it gives me, like, it gives me the opportunity to help them, but also to heal myself a little bit. Have you experienced anything like that? Absolutely, brother. You know, not to sound crazy, but I really do think that we all have many different facets to our personality. You can almost name it.

You know, and you can have a client that almost mirrors that all in just aggressive, let's say, Michael Jordan type quality that we have. And then we have a client like that. Then you get another client and the sweet empathetic, um, maybe. you a little nervous, can't take that lead person. And that's the person that was the fat kid inside of me that was insecure when I was a child and still is healing. Each client I have will represent some part of my personality. You know, at all times, at all times.

So funny because my SEC athlete, the athlete, represents the falling in love with the work and not the competition. That's what I did. Fell in love with the work, the technical things, the hitting until my hands bled, right? Lifting weights, running. I'm going to go run two miles and then stop at seven because I had to work harder than the next person, you know, the next person. Because if I didn't, that wasn't going to be good enough. And then my professional client has to have that permission from a male figure, right?

He needs that permission. And that's something that I struggle with. When I let down a male, like a father figure, it crushes me because I feel like so many times I let my dad down because I wasn't good enough, right? And so it's funny that you mention that because like, dude, spot on, brother, spot on. Yeah, I have a couple of professional athletes. I'm thinking of one particular in the NFL in which he's a mammoth of a man, bro. I mean, this guy, he's a mammoth of a man. but when we're working together,

he really, it really is coaching the little boy in me because on the field, he destroys, but in life, you know, and I hope he hears this because he knows I love him,

but like he doesn't know. He doesn't know his ass from his elbow at certain times. I mean, he really doesn't. Yeah. He doesn't know what to do first. I mean, is his kids,

and is his wife, as he make the coffee, but he gets that overwhelmed and that confused, which is why he loves the structure of the game. He loves the structure of the NFL. He loves that he needs to be here at a specific time. And these hours of his day are blocked off. And when he's on the field, he's hyper-focused.

Once you give him three things to do, his brain goes into complete overwhelm. He doesn't even know where to start. It's so funny because I can only see myself when, and I hope she hears this, because we've talked about it's my wife. Hey, hon, when you're done, with what you're doing, can you, can you do this? I only hear can you do this. And I get frustrated. And I go, leave what I'm doing, go do that. And she's, hey, you know, hey, can you do, and it's like all

these different tasks she's asking me. And I just melt down because I just can't. It seems a lot, he and I are a lot similar, very similar in those areas. Like, hey, I need structure. If I'm doing one thing right now, then I need to be doing that. But what really needs to happen is I need to find a better way to cope with all the things I need to deal with because it can get very anxietizing. Yeah. And Sean, I also, I applaud that because I have that as well. It's, it's this thing. I do not want to call it people pleasing. I don't believe it is. Let me, I have a really big difference. I have a lot of people come to me and they think they're people pleasers.

And then when we go into it, right, I'm like, you're not a people. You have this, it's too big of an umbrella this definition. A people. pleaser is you like the Yankees? Oh, I like the Yankees. You wear black? I wear black. No, we, you and I have a Superman complex. Yeah. Which is, I'll stop whatever I'm doing. I'll put my cape on. I'll save the day. That's not pleasing. That's it. That's a super he complex. Yes. Do you what I mean? And I have so many people come to me. I'm a people please. I'm like, no. I'm like, let me ask you. You like, let me you like the Raiders? I fucking hate the Raiders. Do you like that? Do you like the lobster for breakfast? No, I don't I'll keep going and going.

I'm like, dude, you're not a people please. Do you mean? You have a superhero complex. You don't know when to say, like, I have the same thing with my partner that I'm in love with, right? I hear, hey, when you're done, honey, when you're done, can you do this? And I'm like, all right.

She clearly said, she clearly said, and it was in a loving tone. I know. It was in a, you know, and I'm in a word, can you do this? bro this is this is this is powerful dude because if this was the the the conduit for us to speak and get this out like i feel really badly when i react like that because i react just like you just did fine go i'm doing it do it don't worry about me yeah you know um but man and then the the my wife will look at me and like are you okay i'm like well you do a thousand different fucking things right now. I'm just trying to focus. I have ADHD. I'm trying to schedule out this video

and you're talking to me about something like goldfish. Goldfish. Yeah. And it's wrong. It's not okay. But yeah, it's a Superman complex. It's, you know, and the reactions aren't very favorable, to be quite honest. I'm not teaching my kids anything by that. Jesus. Yeah, but you know, you are, right? Because, dude, you sound like you're both of us. I'm a work in progress too. We're aware of it. We're working on it. We are facing it. We're trying to change. And what I have seen with a lot of the kids that I've either worked with or the parents is that when you try to act like the parent that has it all together and there's never an issue and there's nothing to work on, those kids end up to be really messed up.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, actually best dad in the world to show you have flaws. You have defects of character. You're willing to work on them. You're willing to lean into your marriage. You're willing to show them where you're like, that's a daddy. Yeah. That's a dad. You know, and I never had my dad apologize to me. So when I, when I act unfavorably, right? And my wife and I, and this is largely her doing and teaching me this is, hey, when we act poorly in front of our children or we overreact of maybe one of their small mistakes, acknowledge it and apologize. Hey, you know, I'm, I'm, hey, guys, I just want to apologize. You know, I overreacted there.

I got angry. Your mom was just asking me to do something kindly and lovingly. And I didn't hear it, right? And I acted poorly. Will you forgive me? I never got to all. That's a great. Yeah.

That's a great fuck. Yeah. I ain't going to be perfect. They're going to hear shit for me that they probably shouldn't. You know, I say fuck a lot. And, you know, I got have these, you know, a lot of people that listen to my show. Hey, I really love, for you to stop cursing on your show because, you know, I want my 10-year-old to hear you.

I'm like, well, this show isn't for your 10-year-old. It's probably for you. So, like, why don't you listen to me and then you can go implement things in your life, but don't necessarily be concerned with my language. But, like, you know, I have to, my voice says, can't say fuck so much. Like, you know, Sean, you're like, it's bad language. I'm like, I know, I know. But then I wonder, what are they going to hear when they go out to school?

I mean, these fourth graders are nasty now. They're nasty. They speak well, I look, I'm guilty of it too. I actually have a sense of humor. I probably show kids way too young of an age,

movies like old school and stepbrothers. I don't know that yet. That's good. Wait. Yeah, well, there you go. Okay, so there you go. But I also do believe,

look, there's the right host, there's the right show, there's the right person with the right audience. And I think it's wonderful that that person loves you so much and loves your content so much

that they're asking you to stop. Then you're not being you. Yeah. You know, they're not being, I have a friend. I try to find an episode or two. Try it.

I have a friend. I did. I love this. I didn't like it. I did. I did. I did. I did.

I didn't like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I do when I swear, as in, it enhances the point

it's almost like an adjective it's colorful it is it's not at somebody it's not it's a way of an hate dude it's funny it's punctuation dude I grew up in a fucking locker room I grew up in a dugout it's who I am like sorry it is what it is

and again a lot of times it's endearing I mean I'm not I'm from fucking Jersey bro fuck man I'm from Cali you know I'm from the West Coast it's like Yeah. I remember we would say, you know, growing up, it was a term of endearment. You know, if you were like this fucking guy, it meant like that my brother. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I mean this. Like it was, so everybody speaks their own way. And languaging is a, languaging is something that I'd like to get better at myself. Yeah, but it's funny because like you're talking about this fucking guy. Like we have that too, but my best friend, Quinn Stewart, I played with him at L.C. you still my closest friend like just he's my best friend and a lot of times we'll get together he man you're so fucking stupid and that means he loves me yeah I'm like I love you too man yeah like I love you too we do the same thing like it's like you're so dumb you're fucking idiot man

but like that's just hey it's just the way it is but listen I want I want you to dive into something here okay because you've you've battled addiction and you've recovered you know this is something we probably should have covered in the first part of the show. But winding the show, Dan, I want you to talk about your experiences and how it led you to create an amazing program like The Hero Project. Oh, thank you, brother. Sure. I would love to talk about that. Well, without getting too deep into my story, because it's a story, right? It's, it would have to, I'd have to take time. But alcohol is an addiction. And it's hard to talk about, right? So alcohol is an addiction or, a part of me. I wasn't looking to get drunk and I wasn't looking to get high. I was looking

for spiritual intoxication. I was looking for my spirits to be high. As a matter of fact, when I was growing up in New York and New Jersey, they didn't even call it like a liquor store. It was called fine wine food and spirits. Like alcohol was called spirits. It raised your spirits. And when I learned that I was sick, that alcoholism and addiction, is truly a disease. It takes four qualifications to be a disease. You have to be progressive. You get worse over time. You have to be chronic. You're always there. You have to be primary, meaning you're first, not secondary. And you have to be fatal. These are the four qualifications that allow you to be a disease. You take one of those away, just one, and you're a disorder. And disorders are horrible

enough. But you add the fourth component and you're a medical disease. I surrendered, bro. I actually surrendered that I was a sick person and I had to start learning how to get well. And in doing so, the whole spiritual transformation. You know, I was the kind of guy, like, if you believed in God and you believe, like, like, good for you, you know, good. That's great on you. But to me, it was a little too much like Tinkerbell, like, oh, say a prayer, make a wish and no pixie does what you. It just, it just wasn't, it wasn't practical until I needed God, until I needed something spiritual. And the whole thing revolutionized the way I look, the way I speak, the way I act, who I am. And I fell in love with this process of recovery. I felt in love with it. And I'm running a multi-million dollar

empire while at the same time I'm going these meetings every day and I'm learning and then I start helping people and I'm speaking. And it was still almost like a double life. Before out, one time I was drinking and drugging and hiding that. Now it's like I'm playing Superman all the time. But I fell in love with it. But after years of recovery, years and years and years, I realized that a lot of people that were helping, it wasn't just about the drugs and it wasn't just about the alcohol. It wasn't even just about the mindset. It wasn't even about just the emotions.

It wasn't even about the finances. It was that they never even got to really know who they were. They never get to find out who's this person inside. And why are they always so attracted to? being a hero. They never took that journey. They never separated themselves from the alcohol, from the drugs, from the old destination, from the insecurities, from the fears. They never separated themselves from Tatooine, right, to go on to that journey with Obi-Wan-Kanovi. They never separated themselves with Morpheus and went into the Matrix. They never

separate themselves from Metropolis and went and found out that they were from Krypton. They never took that separation to find out who they really were inside. And then the initiation process where they get to get all these new skills, bro, find out who they really are. What really turns them on? Where are their defects of character? Where are their flaws? But also, where are their assets? What makes them strong? You know, go into this whole industry, learning the force, learning that they're Neo in the Matrix, learning that they're, you know, Cal L from Krypton, learning whatever, learning who they really are. And then the return home, it's really show people who they are, if it's clean and sober, but if it's with a new career, or if it's just finally being the person they always want to be.

And I took all of the aspects and all of the education and all of the teachings that really enhanced my life. And I put it all into one system. And I bet on myself, I believed in it. I believed in it. got one client took them through the hero project that was a success got two got three got four got a little recognition got on the news got contacts here got contacts there and the thing just started taking off and as i was doing that then i started learning more because now i have a system but i had to get into my own personal development right that's that was the part that i wish i could go back in time and tell myself right hey if you're going to do this adam you have to realize you don't get to like create something and go oh i made something i'm the master now which i would have loved

yeah that would be great it was like it creates something now you got to go even deeper you got to go and so now i'm starting to teach all these things i have but i had to enhance myself and it just kept going so that's really what the hero project is it started with alcoholism an addiction. Now look, where it comes to getting sober, I'm a 12-step guy. I am a 12-step guy through and through is a major part of my life. That fellowship in those people and that community and that program is a big part of my life. But that's not what my clients wanted. As a matter of fact, a lot of my clients were already cleaning sober in a 12-step program. They wanted something more. They wanted something more. They wanted something more. That's the

Hero Project. Dude, that's amazing. How long have you been doing the Hero Project? So I would say the Hero Project really officially launched in 2020. Yeah, I remember seeing something, you know, 2020, 2020, 2021, you're making a big push. I don't know how I saw it, but I saw it. Maybe Facebooks. I think we've been connected on Facebook for quite some time. But dude, yeah. Yeah. Awesome program. You know, you've been on a lot of different shows. You've been a lot of different shows that are my friends like Kelly C. Eagle, buddy of mine. So, man, man, I've been hearing your message for quite some time.

I'm just Jack that we got to, you know, come together and, you know, build a friendship and have you on this amazing show, like, on a weekend. This is freaking awesome. Sean, I'm really proud of you. I'm telling you, I've been watching your stuff, too. The one thing I would like to say this, I think it's a good thing. And it's not self-promotion what I'm about to do. And it's a compliment to you is I, unfortunately.

Unfortunately, really am a coach. Like, I know everybody in their mother out there wants to be. Like, when I see people doing well, that turns me on. I want the betterment of people. When I was watching you do your thing, for me, that was, it would feed my soul because I was like somebody else that really does the work that's doing it. Like this thing that we're doing that you and I are doing, it works. Yeah.

We found our calling. The only thing I'd say that maybe I messes with my integrity sometimes or messes me up inside is when I see somebody wanting to do mine and your work, but they're doing it because they want the attention or they want the likes or or they don't want to work. Yeah. How's this? Maybe they just don't want to get a fucking job, right? And, you know, I'm 40, I'm going to be 48 years old.

Do you mean? Like, I, I've worked my entire, like being a coach, I don't want to be a coach. That's the funniest thing. I want to be the story. I don't want to be Phil Jackson. I am Phil Jackson. I want to be Michael. I want to have the ball in my hands.

I want to have the moves. I want the fade away. I want the sneaker contract. That's what I want. But in my heart and in my soul, I'm a coach. I want the betterment of you. I want you to win.

I want to be in your corner. You know what I mean? But if you were to ask my ego, no. I want to be coached. I want to be Michael. I want to be those guys, but I'm not wired like that. Yeah, dude, it's crazy because I feel the same way. It's like, I want to be, you know, in the uniform still.

I want to hear my cleats rushing into the clay going to the batters box in the big moment. But you know what, dude? You know what's so powerful? We can become the Barry Bonds and the Kobe Bryant's, the Jordans of coaching. And that's our goal. See, in the audience that is listening, when he says he doesn't want to be a coach, you got to understand. I don't either.

It's our calling. It's something that when I say we don't want to be. It's not our first choice. Our first choice would be on ESPN dunking a basketball or hitting the game winning home run in the bottom of the ninth and game seven of the fucking world series for crying out loud. You know, to be that Heisman candidate

like Jaden Daniels of LSU right now. That's what we are why. That's what we want to do. But we also understand that when things shift for us our life goes a certain way, because God wants something different. Universe wants something different for us. and it's their plan.

And our job is to submit to it. We sit there and say, okay, how can I be a part of somebody else's journey? Because we have failed in those areas in our lives. And now we can help others stay away from those landmines, so to speak. And so it's funny because I have been a baseball coach. I'm a sales leader. You know, I've done so many different things. I've helped people with their show.

I enjoy seeing that moment when I'm on camera with somebody and coaching them and their eyes light up. And now the fucking lights are on. And that person just goes and creates their own success. Like to me, I have goosebumps. You can't see it under these long sleeves. But dude, that's fucking it right there for me. That's it. That's it.

That's the juice. That's the juice. That's what you and I live for. And that's very hard to explain to somebody. You can't explain it. But then I want to touch on what you just said earlier too about the people that are doing it for attention. You can tell when they're disingenuous, right? Like you can tell when it's all made up bullshit.

That does bother me. That does bother me. The other thing that bothers me while we're talking about things that bother us is I can't stand it when you know somebody's using somebody else's words. Like it bothers the shit out of me. Like I know somebody that just takes from all the coaches and uses their slogans and like talks and just there's no original ideas that really bothers me, man. Because you know why?

Yeah. Because if you are starting to influence or move a certain. group cohort of people paying attention to your content, you better make sure you know how to fucking lead them because they're going to come to you. They're going to want, they're going to want to give you their business. And if you're just regurgitating bullshit from somebody else, you ain't a fucking coach. I don't care what you put on your Instagram profile. Let me, let me even go deeper. This is one of the things that let me knew I had integrity. And I got to have a one on, like several one-on-ones with him. But when I started going deeper,

here's my ego. Just you know, I want to. I show you my humility and my ego. I knew I had to go deeper into personal. I was like, okay, I need to learn. Right. I was like, well, if I'm going to learn from somebody, here's where the ego comes in. Well, who's the Michael Jordan of fucking this thing? I was like, I'm going to Tony Robbins directly.

Like, I'm not, you know, I'm going, I'm going. I'm like, who's Michael Jordan of this whole fucking thing? Yeah. I mean, I don't want to go. I don't want to go to Kobe. I don't want to go to LeBron. I don't want to go to AI. I mean, who the hell is?

And one of his major teacher. and he's dead serious about it is is about doing he hates the word trying I'm not that guy I'm like dude This is where there was like love and respect between it. I was like listen Fuck Yoda in the 12 steps. We say we try to carry the message do I mean and and Michael Jordan's one of his famous quotes is I can accept failure. I can't accept not trying I tell people try I am not a Yoda guy. I am not due or do not. I am no man just try just fucking so I can't I feel like you and I are at an age and at a place where I I'm so grateful that we are who we are because I can't imagine taking

somebody else's words and languaging and trying to be them. Yeah it's tough you know I just can't do it. I can't do it. It sounds silly too you know because it doesn't It doesn't come off like it would with that normal person, right? The person that, I say normal person, the person that created, I know there's certain things, the certain words that you can only have so many synonyms. Like, you know, process over outcome, you know, all that kind of stuff. Like, dude, you're not, you're going to sound just like everybody else. But how you explain it and how you coach through it is completely different, right?

It should be completely different, right? So, I don't know. We got off on a tangent there. That's the shit that bothers me, man. No, but, Sean, I love it, right? I can imagine, like, I can still imagine. This is, I like this. I like what we're talking about it,

because we're two guys doing something very similar, but with our own personalities, our own individuality. I'm telling you, I guarantee it. I can hand you my client, and you would enhance their lives in so many different ways. It would come out in Sean languaging, baseball terminology, and vice versa, you could pass me one and it would come out from a guy from Jersey

that uses superheroes, but they would actually get the lesson because we're being authentic how we see the world and how we speak. If I start using baseball terminology, you're going to know, this guy doesn't know his ass from his elbow. Right. It's, it's, it's, what is? Because, like, dude, you're trying too hard. You're not, you're not like, you know, a lot of times it's funny.

And I got, you're not one time. Dude, dude, this fucking crazy. I caught heat on Instagram right before we hopped on. It was such a blessing, such a blessing. I did a collab post with one of my buddies, John Hobbs, 6 a.m. practice. We do a lot of things together. And most of the things that we do together goes to apeshit, like 12,000 shares, does really, really well.

Put together these, those little posts, right? They call them carousels. But really the ones that do really, really well are the ones that look like Twitter post, right? The Twitter feeds. And they just crush it for us. And this one gentleman, I'm assuming, gentleman just by the name, you know, said, it's clear that this guy has never seen the schedule of a student musician and the work that goes in. And yet we still get no fucking sympathy. And I said,

I'm so sorry that we, that this post made you feel that way or, you know, that's what you got from it. That wasn't our intent at all. See, our business is focused on athletes. So our content continues to follow that niche, right? It's what we, It's what we talk about, right? Athletes. I don't know the first thing about being a student musician, but what I did say was, I can attest the amount of time and effort that you all put in

and often get overlooked. So I'm sorry, you know, but dude, like, you know, a lot of times you can get shot on Instagram for just talking about your business. That's what you do. And then the way people take it is an opportunity for you to respond thoughtfully instead of reacting. At first, I was like, seriously, motherfucker? Like, really?

Really? Like, you're going to make this athlete versus student musician? And that's the ego. But then the coach of me, just like, you know? I love that. I love what you're saying. It does allow you to kind of develop some thick skin and go, okay. I, you know, how can I address that person with love rather than being like, I didn't write it for you, you know, which I could hear that.

Yeah. Get off my phone. Get off my feet. Get off my feet. The fuck. Like, where's the music in this post? You know what I mean? But, but it doesn't allow.

Look at our profiles. This is what we do. Like, but again, you're right, man. I'm like, hold on. Hold on. Let me show him some love because he's feeling a certain way. And I meant what I said. I don't want anybody to feel alienated by what I posed.

But, like, dude, I'm not everybody's flavor of ice cream, bro. You know? Yeah. Because seriously, I think about that. You know? So, damn, dude. We got to get together soon, man. You fucking live here.

I didn't know you were local. I love it. I would absolutely. Dude, I think we're only maybe an hour and 45 minutes away from each other. It's nothing. It's nothing. I'll come up there. Come on.

Come on over. Come on over. We'll get some lunch. We can't meet in the middle. We could meet in the middle at Mukasaki, the little snake road right there in the alley. Have you seen that new gas station? That thing is dope. That thing is dope.

I have not. I have heard about it though, bro. I have not seen it. But I would love it, dude. I'd love to go to Fort Myers and see what you guys are up to. And maybe we can throw some weight around or go for a month together and make some content together and have fun. That's a good idea.

Let me, we can even try to fix something up in my office here or, We can rent a studio and we can do some fun stuff. But like, let's make it our intention. It's an hour and a half time. It's nothing. Done. Let's do it, man. Listen, dude, I appreciate you coming on today and giving so much value to my, to my audience.

Can you tell them really quickly? And again, I'm going to link back your website and the Hero Project and your Instagram and all that kind of stuff. But can you give them a brief just run down to how they can find you and how they can work with you. Yeah, I made this because I'm getting old, so I need to make this as simple as possible. So really, it's Adam Jablin on all platforms, you know. And so the Hero Project and all the other programs I have are under, you know, you can just find Adam Jablin. And if it's my website, Adam Jablin.com, Adam Jablin on Instagram, Adam Jablin at Facebook, Adam Jabba on LinkedIn and all the other, you know, TikTok.

That was really for me, by the way. That was because I would have gotten overwhelmed if I had one for the hero project and one for wake up discovery recovery and one for I. Sean, I would have, I know myself. I would have, remember we were talking about when your wife was saying, you know, you're doing something? And then that one last question can send you over the edge. I have that too. Yeah. You know what I mean?

If I got an email from somebody, but it was to this program and not that program, I would have just been like, I would have thrown my hands in the air. You know, I need everything to be as simple as possible. Do you want your compliment now? Because I'm going to tell you something. I took your link today. You're Adam Javlin, okay, for the Hero Project, wherever I went to. And I sent it to my friend, excuse me, my friend Missy Johnson up in New York who helps me, her and her husband helped me with my editing and all that stuff.

And building out my hour, right? Because I give them ownership because they're part of my team. our platform in our coaching program, right? And I sent the link, I said, look how easy this is to sign up for his program. Look how easy this is to know what free resources are there. Look how easy it is for someone who wants to work with them one-on-one to know what they're dealing with.

You better be ready to invest. But it's easy. It's laid out. It takes out all the conversation of negotiating with price or negotiating how to get to where he's at. This is what it is. This is what it takes. Click this button.

Let's go. I said, so we need to do this. She goes, well, I'm, you know, I'm doing stuff today. I'm like, oh, sweetie, I didn't mean today. I just meant I want you and I to, you know, connect with each other sometime soon to make people know how to work with us easier because this man does a hell of a job doing it. Thank you, Sean. That tells me a lot. And I could tell you, because we're built the same way.

it makes the conversations with our potential clients and our future clients. It makes it just that much even. I love it. It just makes everything very, very simple. It's kind of like what Elon Musk did with Tesla. Like you go in, there's no, hey, what if I take this off? And you know, there's no negotiate for five hours. It's like, here's the car.

Here's the price. You want it. Yeah. Dude, it's so funny. Like, this could be a whole other episode. Like, why is the price negotiable? Like, why is the price negotiable? No, this is what it is.

This is what it is. You know, a lot of times, my buddy, do you know Tony Watley? How do I know that name? 365. I don't know. If I don't know Tony Wattley, I may follow Tony. He's amazing. Good buddies, unreal.

He always makes this joke or he says this right around Black Friday time. He's like, well, all you other hat coaches, you know, take all your prices and drop them. I'm raising mine because I want them know that's how you are. 100%. I'll never do a Black Friday deal. You know, bro, I'm with you. I don't want to say never because if you and I ever develop a supplement or this or that, I don't ever want to say I never will.

But I do believe that when it comes to the amount of love and attention that we pour into a soul approaching, I'm with you on that. I don't think I will too. You're right. I was going out with a fixed mindset. You're right. So I guess you said you and I couldn't. I just, I have to be careful because I don't want to sound like a hypocrite two days and years from now.

I retract that. I retract that. I retract that. And I don't know if Adam and I are going to do a supplement. We might. Who knows? Who freaking knows? We can do the, what is that the pill?

Limitless. We're going to do the, the, the real, dude. It's coming out. It's coming out. Yeah. French jabby and limit is pill. I love it. I love it, dude.

Well, listen, man. Thanks again. We're going to land the plane, but I just appreciate the open communication today. the amazing conversation and the value that you provided the audience. And I can't wait to get with you in person. And we're going to do something big together. I know it. It's going to be fun.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, until next time, guys, share the show. Let us know what you think about it. Don't be afraid to open your minds and open your hearts and give us real feedback. Because at the end of the day, I know Adam reads feedback. I know I read feedback. And it's appreciated.

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