Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - From Playmate to Filmmaker: Brande Roderick’s Journey of Grit and Growth

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

Brande Roderick joins Shawn French to share her incredible journey from Baywatch and Playmate of the Year to directing and producing her first feature film, Wineville. In this inspiring conversation, Brande opens up about building resilience, overcoming rejection, and creating her dream project against all odds. If you're chasing a dream, this episode will show you why the setbacks are part of the setup. Subscribe for more inspiring conversations! Comment below: What's one dream you refuse to quit on? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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It's a horror film. It's not for the fainted heart. It's your first time directing and producing it, correct? Yeah. It's a big freaking deal. Well, it's based in 1978. My character tests, she ran away when she's about 15 years old because of some horrific things that happened to her at her family home, which is on a vineyard.

Years later, she got a call that her father had passed away, and now she has an 11-year-old son. It has to come back and take care of the family estate. And when she comes back, she learns that everything has just darkened and festered and gotten worse. Please let me go. And now not only does she have to escape herself, but now she has to do everything she can't to save her son. Messed up, screwed up, serial killer family. Will they get out alive?

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They watch and I. I know it's time. I confirm me. A whole society determined. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode. I'm your host, Sean French. Before I introduce today's guest,

please feel free to hit the follow button on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple podcast and share this episode with a friend that you know would get a lot out of the conversation. So today I have with me, Brandy Roderick, she's a 2001 playmate of the year. She is now a director and producer of her own movies. She's an author.

She's been in many films and she's just an incredible business woman. So today you're going to hear a lot of her story and what she's doing now. And so without further ado, welcome to the show. Hi. How's going, Sean? It's going good. How are you doing? I'm doing fantastic.

Doing really good. I'm feeling kind of like we probably should have flown a plane out there and done this in your bar. I mean, look at that. Look at that bar. Yes. I could have made you like a really cool market. Martini, a whiskey tree. Whiskey, yes.

You like whiskey? I do. I do like whiskey. Gosh, I know. It's like, you know, some people have like, oh, they love desserts, you know, it's like, you know, their downfall. But for me, it's like whiskey is my dessert. Like, I love it. I love having a good nightcap after dinner.

Oh, man. I wish, you know, for me, I almost to me, I would be like, I wish that was my downfall. For me, Brandi, if I have one. piece of chocolate, I have 17. Oh my gosh. Wow. Okay. And drinks, I can be like, all right, that was a good drink and I could be done. Yeah. Okay. See, I probably. Well, you're lucky. You're lucky. Oh, my goodness. gracious. Well, thank you so much for coming on. You've had such an amazing career. You've done multiple things. And what I'd like to do in the first couple minutes of every show is allow the guest to kind of give the audience

a little bit of a background on them for those that may not know exactly who you are. They may not, if they saw some epic scenes, they would know exactly who you are. But yeah, start skiing Hutch, right? Yeah. I was like, wait, that was her. I was like, wow, that's crazy.

But listen, so please, takes the time to educate the audience and who Brandi Roder is. Well, I'm just a small town girl from Northern California. But I always grew up wanting to be an actress and started at a very young age doing, you know, like little place for the neighborhood parents and kids and little things like that. I went to college and my minor was in theater. So you're about to make a trade based on a friend's text.

But which you do you listen to? Is it, we could buy a house in Tulum? Get optioning those options. We could lose everything. Or let's do a little research. Get your head in the trade and make the investment decision that's right for you. Learn more at finra.org slash trade smart. Dude, as much as I could in the San Francisco area as far as like independent films and TV shows like Nash Bridges and, you know, like I was in The Rock and Metro and all these different big films that come.

there like as an extra right but you can only go so far not being in Hollywood so at the ripe old age of 23 um you know because that if you go any later than that you know you're pretty old you know going into Hollywood but um i packed up and um i packed up a u-hall uh didn't bring didn't bring my car sold my car packed up a u-hall went to my friend's house slept on his couch for like a month before a room was ready that I can move into. You know, going on auditions, I had to borrow his car. You know, it didn't even have first gear. So I had to start, you know, in second gear, you know, driving all my auditions.

Granted, it was a Porsche 9-11. Yeah, that doesn't suck. But it was really old. It was a classic. I was like in the 7th. It had the antique license plate. Yeah. But, you know, I started out like just very like humbly, you know, with nothing.

thing and was going to my acting classes. And then I landed my first gig, which was 90210, my first speaking role, I guess I should say. And then from there, you know, kind of got into that spelling family. And then I did Love Boat, two episodes of that. And continued my active classes, you know, and going and doing different independent films. And then my big break came with Baywatch.

that was like, you know, series regular lead role. And actually, I went, when I auditioned for that, I read for just a smaller role. And I guess, you know, the directors and producers really loved what I did. And they ended up creating a role for me and made me the head main lifeguard, love interest of the head male lifeguard. So I actually, you know, ended up getting. like this amazing role that they created for me.

You know, and that kind of kickstarted everything and got to move to Hawaii and live in Hawaii. That doesn't suck. It was the best job in the world. I mean, unreal. In the middle, that was Jason Mamoa, right? Yeah,

Jason Mamoa was on the show. So that was fun, you know, being with him and starting his, seeing his, you know, journey and, you know, starting up from just as young little kid, uh, 21 years old, you know, on this, this show to where he is now.

It's pretty exciting to see his journey. And to see that he's still, you know, like that sweet little kind of innocent, um, kid, uh, to see how he is now. He's still the same, you know, big kid, which is nice to see. But. Absolutely. Yeah. So that was, you know, kind of the big.

break where it all started and then that rolled into, I got Playmate of the Year, which happened when I was on Baywatch. I ended up getting Playmate of the Year. And, you know, from there, went on to Starsky and Hutch with Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson and the Nanny Dyer's was called Johansson, the Celebrity Apprentice and the Surreal Life and, you know, all the fun, exciting, you know, shows and movies I've been able to do since that.

Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, listen, for the audience, like, you know, that's a big resume, right? But it started with a gamble, her moving to L.A. and understanding what, what she had to do, right? And for you, that's a big thing, right? Because most people would sit there in that moment and, like, I don't know. For you is like, I sold everything. You knew exactly what you needed to do. And a lot of people reference Hernaneh Cortez, burn the boats, right? You want to make sure if you're going to go and you're going to do something, burn that bridge behind you or burn that plan B. so that way, you know, plan A is going to absolutely work out. And that's what you did. Absolutely.

That's all I saw in front of me. There was no plan B. But yeah, you know, it's just something that I really wanted to do. And there were, you know, there are, there's a lot of rejection, right, in this career. And you go up against a lot of hurdles. And one thing I learned, and I'm. I'm such an advocate of self-help type books, anything you can learn. And ever since I can remember the young person, young teenager, I had been reading every book you can imagine.

So, you know, there are so many tools that I learned. And, you know, anytime like a door closed, I would find a window to crawl into. You know what I mean? And you think outside the box and I do all the things that no one else was doing. Um, like for example, when I go into a casting, no matter what it might be, I would always find something. I'd be searching and looking like, what, what is this person like? Let me find a connection because I would always send them a thank you card and a gift. And I would, you know, do something like that.

So I'd be memorable. And let me tell you, there were so many times I kept getting called back with that certain casting director for different roles. Um, you know, uh, so that was always working. I mean, even Starsky and Hutch. Todd Phillips, you know, Academy Award winning director, went in for the audition for Starsky and Hutch. Him and Ben Stiller were in the room, and they were like, oh, my God, we're such huge fans of you on the surreal life.

They said, but we love Emmanuel Lewis. Oh, my God, we love him. He's so funny, blah, blah, blah. So they were huge fans of Emmanuel Lewis who was on my season. So I called up Mani, said, Mani, you got to get me an autographed picture of yourself. Send it to Todd Phillips and say, hey, hire my girl Brandy. So genius. I had him do that.

And I got the freaking job. And who knows, you know, was it because of my amazing act? And yes, of course. But, you know, I'd say it was between me and one other person and they really didn't know what to do. That could have put them over the edge. Like, this girl's cool. Like to do this out of her way and like make this happen.

So I was always and still am thinking of really creative out of the box types of ways. to get what I want. Yeah, I love that about you. And it's funny because I've experienced it with you a little bit as well, right? So we had, I mean, we had a mutual contact connect us. And we hadn't had any real communication. Talk on the phone a couple of times. But you were always so kind.

And I was like, this person is my people. Yeah. Because I could tell that you're big on the relationship aspect of, let me peel back the layers and see what this guy's about or this individual's about. so I can make sure I nurture this interaction. And I haven't had one interaction with you that has been lifeless. Right. And again, like, I mean, right?

Think about that, though. How many times have you had conversations with somebody, I had a conversation with someone earlier. And I'm like, were they there? When it comes to what your family eats and drinks, you know your choices matter. You're the expert because you know what fits your life. And getting it right starts with good information.

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I mean, relationships are hugely important. And I like to, when I'm in with someone, I want to connect with them and I want to be in the moment, you know, turning shutting everything else off. And so you can actually be in the moho with that person because that's where you're going to have the best experience about. Absolutely. Yeah. I want to cover one thing and then I want to get into Wineville. Yeah. So, funnily enough, you and I did not grow up far from each other.

Oh. Okay. I think you're Novado. You're not like Florida born and raised. I'm a Cali boy. I'm a Cali boy. Oh, I grew up in the East Bay. I grew up in Concord.

Well, I mean, my cousin is a Concord police officer. Well, now he's an investigator, but was a cop. My uncle is a police officer in Richmond. So all that, like that area, my dad was raised in. in the Richmond Concord area. I mean, that's crazy. Yeah, it is crazy. Another crazy thing, when I played baseball in junior college,

your college was our biggest rival, and we could never meet them. No, no, no, no. Or Santa Rosa. Santa Rosa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to Louisiana and played Division I ball after that. But yeah, so small world, right?

Like small, small world. roughly the same area. Yep. But all right. So one of the biggest things that you've been able to do in your careers is work multiple projects, multiple careers at one time. You've been super effective at it. Most recently with Wineville, that is streaming everywhere right now,

you are not only the director, but you produce the thing too. So walk us through that. That's a big project. And I'm sure it took a lot of your business savviness, your creativeness. Walk the audience through that journey. Um, oh, it was a crazy journey, um, from start to finish. Uh, so it started actually with, uh, there was a gentleman who was going to wrote a story, not Weinbill, but a previous story. I wanted to do a horror film and he was going to direct it. And, you know, during the whole pre-production process, uh, he went to jail. I mean, that's just to show you or tell you the start of this journey.

You're like, great, here we go. So, like, start all over from scratch, find a new director, find a new writer to create and write this new story, which I'm so glad that we did because now it became my story with the writer, right? It wasn't someone else's story. So we went to the location, which was my friend's wine. He said, yeah, you have a shoot movie, shoot it here. So we went to his winery and, you know, was able to scope out and create the story around the location, around myself and my son who was going to be playing my son, you know, what kind of characters I wanted us to be.

And so we were able to create this story, which was kind of cool and it made it, you know, logistically easier to shoot. but it was just it was a crazy journey we also were shooting kind of still in that COVID era where you had to still wear masks and still had to go in and test you know to make sure everyone didn't have COVID well the day one of shooting I was all excited and then we did our testing and then our wardrobe gal the costumer had freaking COVID and my film is a as a period piece it was based in 1916 So it's not like you could just go down to Walmart, you know, and get some clothes. I mean, it was serious business.

So we had to scramble to get someone to replace her for, you know, that first week while she's, you know, masked up in the hotel room. But there was constantly things like that happening. Wasn't that at the time, sorry to interrupt. Wasn't that also around the time like SAG? There was an issue with SAG to. You had to get approval to do movies and all types of projects and things, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because of the COVID, which was another whole crazy thing. And that's, you know, wearing all the hats being producer and actress and all the things on set, I had to be pulled in so many different directions. You know, speaking of SAG, last minute, we had to do a FaceTime with them while I'm on set trying to do a C, had to run in and FaceTime with them. another day the oh my gosh one of the prop

master sprayed sprayed pain in her eyes but did you look getting her the emergency room I mean it really was nonstop

you know so I I don't know how Bradley Cooper does it he does all those hats too and those are huge film

but it's a lot to take on everything I won't do everything next time but I'll always learn your lesson because it's

I like having I don't want to sound like control freak, but I do like having control of everything and having my say and input into every little thing so that I put my stamp on it and make sure it gets done right because I kind of have that little bit of philosophy. You know, if you want something done right, you've got to do it yourself. You know, or at least delegate very well. But it's, you know, it is my passion. It's my love as hard as it was and as hard as it is. It doesn't matter, right? Because when you love something and you love doing it, it doesn't feel like work. Is it hard? Absolutely. But it doesn't feel like a job, you know? It's just you're doing something that you love. And I love producing and I love acting.

Well, I love it, you know, because I can look at that, you know, and for the audience, you know, listening or watching is, you know, when things go wrong in our lives, right, we have a choice. We can sit there and we can be mad about it or we can find the solution. like day one of shooting for you guys. Someone gets COVID. Someone gets arrested. You know, now you got to find a new writer before it even. And then,

but most people in that moment, they're going to think my project is torched now, right? Because I got to find a new writer. But it worked out in your benefit, right? It worked out. So now it's your story. So no matter what happens in our lives, like I challenge the audience to really listen,

rewind back the past, you know, five minutes and listen to this over again. Like everything. in our lives chronologically it could be happening to us or for us and in your instance you chose be like this is happening for me and i'm going to implement something else and make it better yeah absolutely and that is a very good example of something that went terribly wrong that i could have just spiraled down um but didn't and took that as an opportunity and it ended up being

so much better um the script was so much better um the script was so much bad And the whole experience, everything was so much better because of that bad thing that happened. And it could have went either way, I could have gave up or I could do what I did and just switch it up and pivot. I find that there's a lot of pivoting in this business or in life in general, right? So, you know, even when it seems like, oh, my God, how could this get any better or worse or now I'm done? No, just freaking pivot, man, and do something else and just figure out a way to. get it done. So, yeah.

I agree with that. You know, and I think that's one of the things that gets people like stuck, right, is because they get caught in the emotion of the actual thing that is going on. And we, and I think at some point, Randy, to be truthful, like, in honest with everybody, we all feel that way momentarily. High performers, though, they go, all right, I got to do this anyways, right? And how can I systematically and just, you know, piece by piece. move forward instead of staying stuck in that moment.

What are some of the things that you do in your own mind? And I know you've been working on you, the self-improvement for a very long time, right? Once you get in a moment where you're stuck, how do you work out of it very quickly? Hmm. Well, think about the alternatives, which you never want. You know, you don't want the alternative, which is to not move forward. And I really, you know, I'm, I'm a big, you know, meditator, I will say, like in the morning. If I'm, if I don't meditate and do my gratitude list and all the things that I love to do in the morning, I will feel a little bit lost.

But once I get grounded again and I do that, sometimes things just become clear. And I'll write stuff down and I just get calm and I think about what I need. to do and I get creative um and now shoot we have chat gbt or whatever we can we don't even have to like crack our brain so much like we used to you know with our little um cloud circle and then the you know all the things to brainstorm the brainstorming yes you know we don't have to do that anymore now we have our AI to help us brainstorm right i mean yeah now we have a now we have all all these tools that that make it even easier for us to succeed, which is so cool.

But yeah, no, sitting down, getting clear and writing shit down and figuring out your next move. And when you start doing that brainstorming and start listening and reading, reading or listening to self-help books, it really helps to trigger what you need to do next. It will come to you because it's in there.

You just have to clear it out and get creative with. then it's going to come out. I think it's just super important to your point about whether you meditate or you go for a walk or run or lift some weights. You know, when I find that I don't work out first thing in the morning, I am completely like I, it's hard for me to ground,

right? So for instance, last night I was feeling sick. There's a stomach bug going around and my kids have it. And I was like feeling queasy. I'm like, wife goes, you are not going to work out the morning.

You are going to get some sleep. You're going to sleep until 6 a. and you have a recording, so you're not going to gym. Like, I need you to take care of, not the point she was trying to control, but like she wanted me to take care of myself, right? And all day,

I'm not, you know, it's like those moments. I'm like, okay, I'm not completely grounded. And so I had to go walk around the block for 15 minutes. There you go.

And reground myself. So to your point there, it's like, for the audience listening, the takeaway is whatever grounds you, go do it. Right? Because once you get into that,

Like you disconnect from the issue. Yeah. You don't have the issue anymore. You can work through it and be like the solutions over here. I'm going to walk that way. I'm going to go towards it, right? Yeah. And everybody, you know, it's not going to be the same for everyone.

Everyone needs to find out what that thing is that's going to help them to feel good, right? Yeah. Whether it's meditating, doing gratitude, practice, affirmations, visualization, working out, walking, grounding. You have to find journaling. You have to find something that really you connect with because you need to do that every day. Whatever it is that is making you feel connected and grounded.

You need to do that. Speaking of grounding, it's so funny because last night I was Googling grounding shoes. Because one of my books that's talking about grounding. And now that, you know, there's grounding shoes. So I'm like, they even have ground. grounding shoe kits, you know, because... No way.

Where you can make your own, like, leather bound sandals or whatever, but there's so... Okay. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm going to freaking do that. I don't care how ugly they are. I'm going to get some freaking grounding shoes and walk over it. Because even outside my house, my grass is fake turf on, you know, that surrounds, like, the immediate part of my house.

And you have to be touching the earth, right, to get that magnetic energy to the, to really, you know, make you feel good and make you healthy and your immunity and all that. So I'm checking out these grounding shoes. So everyone should check. Knowing you, knowing you'll probably look at them and go, I can make them better. And you'll start a new venture. That's what, well, maybe because that's what I was thinking last time. I was like, well, I'll just make some.

Does that I know they're really authentic and real and you're not, you know, or you're something from Amazon. You don't know if it's real or not. Exactly. You know, it's funny because like you're talking about. about grounding. I don't ever, I've never really done it. Sometimes I'll walk outside if I'm walking my dogs at night because I'm too lazy to put my shoes on. I'm like, let me see how this feels. Yeah. And I don't really take the opportunity to connect with it. I'm going to try it though,

because like you said, like the benefit. There's documentaries on it that I've seen where they actually, there was one on Netflix where the doctor did the testing and saw their body and all their body waves and they were just very low in energy and then they went outside for 10 minutes on the ground with just their feet on the grass walking, came back and everything was heightened. It was like all their levels went up and this person was healthier,

just walking out for 10 minutes on the ground. Yeah. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I love it. I love it. Let's get back to Windville, right? Yeah.

Because everybody, go watch it. Yes, everybody's my baby. It was a, you know, it's a horrible. film. It's not for the fainted heart at all. So don't want to is for sure. Oh no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm my wife either. If it's not a romantic comedy, Randy, she's out.

I'm the sicko in the household, right? So I'm excited to see it. I like the crime thrillers. I like before films to an extent. But like, you know, it is your baby. And I want you to take the time to Talk to the audience about it. Say what you can. I don't want you to ruin the movie for anybody. But, you know, definitely, like, talk about your passion project because this is something, again, it's your first time directing and producing it, correct?

It's a big freaking deal. Yeah. Well, it's based in 1978 because that genre of films for me was, like, pivotal. Like, that's just what my family loved. We grew up on, like, you know, Texas. chainsaw massacre and even Psycho, which Psycho wasn't at the 60s, but, you know, that kind of feeling of old school horror. And the film and the script really lent itself to being a period piece. And, you know, I wanted to kind of bring back that feel. So, you know, it's a, it's my character

test had to, she ran away when she's about 15 years old because of some horrific things that happened to her at her, you know, family home, which is on a vineyard in Southern California. But she ran away to Las Vegas. And, you know, years later, she got a call that her father had passed away. And now she has an 11-year-old son and has to come back and take care of the family estate. And when she comes back, she learns that everything has just darkened and festered and gotten worse. And now not only does she have to escape herself, but now she has to do everything she can to save her son. So will they get out of lives?

I don't know. But it's really messed up, screwed up serial killer family. I love that. That is, you know, my jam. Like, I, even in college, I took a course on serial killers and how they grew up and what makes them who they are. And I'm kind of obsessed with that type of thing.

So it's funny because I'm kind of sick like that too. Yeah. Like I like watching if I get a new like a Netflix documentary on Charles Manson or the Zodiac, the Zodiac. I mean, because that's where we grew up. Like that that shit happened within 40 minutes of where we live. I know. Petaluma. I mean, it was like all over those areas.

The Leo. The Leo. I know. Oh my gosh. We're about Marine World. Marine World. That's where you go. Yeah.

That's where the zodiac hung out. It's crazy to me. But like those things, like those, you know, chronicling those types of killers. Like, you know, and it's great because when we do passion projects, right, we do things that you're doing with Wineville. And, you know, you start with like what you're really interested in, you know? And it's interesting that you went down that path. Yeah. How did that creative process work with you?

I mean, like afterwards, were you super excited? Did you go down like a, because I've never acted, right? So I don't like getting into a character or getting into like a storyline. How does that work for you? Well, as far as acting goes, the storyline, it's not like it was, you know, a cat and you award, you know, worthy story acting because my character, you know, I was a single mom with an 11-year-old 12-year-old son. And guess what?

In real life, I'm a single mom with an 11-12-year-old son. I'll protect my son. So the acting was not far-fetched. Like, I will freaking kill for my kid, right? Yeah, good. So, you know, that's there already. So I got lucky if this character is a mom like myself. So that part, you know, was easy.

But the creative process coming up with the story was fun because I get my sick and twisted mind from my mom. So her and I were constantly going back with ideas about how this serial killer family should be because of all of our knowledge from, you know, watching so many sick and twisted films to my knowledge of, you know, taking the classes in college. But it was a fun process doing that with my mom going back and forth. Of course, I did it with the, you know, the writer and I went back and forth. but then I'd go and get ideas for my mom and, you know, so that was a lot of fun. Hey, Mom, doing this movie on serial killers. Let's collaborate.

She was like, yes. Like, that's her, I mean, my very first film, I was six years old watching the exorcist with my mother on the couch. Oh, geez. What kind of sick mom has her kid watch the exorcist at six years old, you know? I mean, not even just the scary part of it, but if you remember Aaron Blair, you know, saying, ask me, have me stabbing herself with a crucifix in her vagina.

You know, I am watching going, what the? Hey, mom, pass the popcorn, you know? It's funny because, like, I was, I don't have that exact same type of story, but I do have something like me and my mom used to watch Friday together, like almost every day. It's like, how fucked up is that? Like I'm sitting there watching. Like I'm in high school, right? At the most impressionable age and my mom's like, yeah, let's watch Friday together.

They're sitting on the porch smoking weed. And meanwhile, I'm 16, 17 years old. Yeah. She didn't think that maybe my son's going to want to do this. Oh, my God. That's so funny. So, my nephew, I say my nephew, but my brother's dog is named Debo. Dibbo.

And people think it's probably, you know, Debo from the 49ers, but it's really Debo from Friday. Yeah, like that's funny. Like, you know, no, no, definitely Debo from Friday. But yeah, so like I used to watch, and my parents, oh, my parents when I was young, used to watch America's Most Wanted. Oh, yeah. Oh, me too.

That was our jam. I love that. Dude. I wanted to recreate a new show kind of similar to that, which I'll tell you. Like, because I was so influenced by that show. so much, right? And the best part of that show was you'd wait, you'd watch it. And at the end, you would wait to see, did they capture them?

And you'd always hope, you know, because then it would show you, oh, we captured blah, la, la. And we always wanted to see if they captured them at the end of the story. Until they freaking didn't. And you learn that the killings were happening in your area and you're like eight years old. I'm like, oh, shit, I don't want to go to bed. Paulyclouse, right? Hadaluma, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So many of them. So many of them. It's kind of a little sick. We had a lot of sick stuff going on, Northern California.

Our generation is just destroyed, isn't it? Good Lord, watching The Exorcist and America's Most Wanted in Friday with their mom. Cool, man. Really cool. Yeah. And like here we are now. And I'm like not letting my son watch. Like, is that?

What is that? Is that PG-13? Like, what are we watching? Okay, year 11, you can watch that, right? But like, I'm definitely more on it. But, you know, in the same token, there was movies that my parents would go out to see in the movie theater before I went and watched them. Yeah. But they went watch Major League.

Remember Charlie Sheen? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm a baseball guy. I want to go see that movie. They went and saw just to make sure it was appropriate for me. And then let me go see it. That's funny.

Yeah. It's like, guys, like, good Lord. Yeah. But hey, hey, childhood was good. childhood was good. That made us who we are today, the sick and twisted individuals we are. That's why we're so creative. Exactly.

Very well-rounded. Very well-rounded. Thank you, mom. Thank you, dad. You did a great job. I'm kicking ass. This is great. So, okay, so what's next, Randy?

Like, what? You have any new projects you're thinking about? Where are we going here? Well, I mean, I'm definitely heavily out, you know, getting the word out about Lyonville. But. Yeah. app my book of all the films and TV shows and everything that I want to do.

So as soon as I'm done out promoting Wineville, I'm going to kind of, you know, see where I'm at in my life and which one of these projects do I want to spend the next two years working on? Because I have any. I just, I am a very creative person. And every time I like, I have all these ideas and stuff happens. All that'd be funny for this show. And that's this of the. Oh, that's nice and sick.

you know, whatever it might be. I love comedy and I love horror, suspense drama. But anyway, I'm always creating and writing stuff down. So I have my book of stuff. So when the time comes, I'm really going to sit down and where do I want to spend the next two years of my life on. I love it. In the meantime, as far as getting the word out about Wineville, talk to the audience. I know it's everywhere, but specifically direct them on where to go because if, you know,

I know the audience, you know, starts to key in on certain things that we talk about. and they're going to want to go watch it. Yeah. Amazon, Apple, iTunes, Google Play, 2B, and then for all of you,

you know, for all the old school horror people, they like DVDs. So I sell autographed DVDs along with a picture. And that's on the website, which is wineville movie.com. And that's always fun to have.

So, yeah, supports, you know, an independent filmmaker. And if we all supported each other in all of our dreams, then we'd all be living the dream, right? Yeah, I think, I think it's important. I don't want to glance over that, right? Because that's an important thing. There's so many people that are doing their own thing and focusing on their own thing and not really rooting somebody else along, right? I don't think, I don't think there's, when that happens, like the energetic flow gets

cut off, right? I listen to other podcasts. I support my. friends, I promote their stuff, I'll share things sometimes, you know, from another show. Like, oh my God, you didn't have to do that. I'm like, what do you mean? You're my friend and you're doing a great job. Like, you know, how have you, how have you continued? Because you've done a lot of great things. Like, continued to keep that at the core value of you and cheering for others. You know, I don't know if it's just something internal or what it is, but this very exact thing, I have this conversation with other filmmakers, independent filmmakers. There are so many of us that if we all, just our independent filmmakers, supported each other and went and watched each other's movies, guess what?

We would all be a success. That's how simple it is. That if we all just support each other in what we love and in our dreams, we will be successful. We just have to get everybody else to understand this because it's so true. I support my fellow filmmakers, not only by watching their films, but like you just said, I share their movies with people. I want them to be successful.

Yeah. It's just something that we should all really try and do is to support each other because it's all going to come back. Yeah, I think it's important, right? Because when we all break it down, really what it is, it's art. And, you know, what I do. do as an art, what you do is an art. And we all want to feel seen and heard. But how can we ever expect to feel seen and heard if we're not seeing and hearing others and supporting them?

Absolutely. 100%. Yeah. I'm big on that. Take, take, take, take, take. You have to give. Exactly. I got I got somebody that I want to connect you with. They recently put out a really good independent film. And then I want to put your movie in his hand. and, you know, do kind of like a thing. So, like, you guys are both watching each other. Like, that's, it's exactly what we're talking about, right? Exactly. 100%.

So, yes. So the audience, the audience, I want you guys to really go check this movie out, right? And I want you to share it with people. Sit down with some friends and keep talking about Wineville because there's, there's amazing things going on in Brandy's career and things that she's doing. We want to support it. That's why we have it on the show. We want to promote Wineville, big deal, you know?

So yes, I appreciate that. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, I just want to thank you again for coming on and sharing your journey first and foremost about just who you are as a person and some of the things that you believe in. Because what I do know, people that love about the show, the determined society is when people like you come on the show, they don't just when they don't just talk about their movies and their projects and they talk about who they are, there is a sense of connection. there. Yeah. Right. And I know you truly connected with my audience today. Because you were, a lot of your core values are what we talk about here. Yeah. Good. I'm glad. Well, I really enjoyed it.

I loved being able to get to know you better and having this fun conversation. So we'll see you maybe, right, in June when you come out here. I will, as soon as I know, I will give you a call and let you know when I'm going to be out there, what dates so we can connect. Even if it's for a drink, whatever, we'll be able to connect. Yeah, it'd be awesome. One more question, though, before we land the plane here. You have one more big question. All right.

So the show is called The Determined Society. And when I created the show, it was by accident. It was just a Facebook group that turned into a top podcast on Spotify and Apple. And the premise has always been, I just, me personally, wanted to wake up in a society that woke up and chase their dreams no matter how they felt emotionally about it. My question to you is, what does determination? truly mean to Brandy Roderick? Ooh.

Well, determination to me is going after. This might be just kind of what you just said. Really. And that's okay. Determination to me is being determined to go after what I want, whether it's a dream or something simple that day and not giving up. And going and doing anything I need to do, to get that thing accomplished.

I love it. And it's very simple, right? A lot of people, and in the audience, I really want to pay attention here is, is we see this big goal, right? You know, produce it and directing your own movie.

If you looked at that goal, and it's like you're standing at the base of the mountain and you're looking up, you're like, oh shit, there's no way. That's a big mountain, right? And what I want people to understand

is doing the small things every day. Right? You don't have to go, from A to Z every single day. You can go from A to B. And as long as you move forward, didn't, there's no such thing as staying the same. You either move forward or you go backwards.

That's truly how I feel, right? And I know a lot of people out there will, you know, contest that. That's fine. That's fine. They can do that. But for me, you either move forward or you get worse. And as long as you take the steps and you get out of your own head, right, then it's a successful day, right?

And people define their days, well, I didn't win today. Or did you? Right? Because people define wins. They have to feel like people are clapping for them for it to feel like a win. And people like you, people like me understand that even doing one thing that's going to move that proverbial football down the field a little bit, that's the win. That's the journey. When did making plans get this complicated?

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Learn more at WhatsApp.com. Absolutely. You have to have all the little wins and those steps to get to that goal. You can't, you know, Rome wasn't built in a day, right? It's so funny because people say, oh, that's a cliche. Well, yeah, for a reason. Yeah, exactly. For a very good reason, you cannot build Roman a day, right?

Right. So I really enjoy, you know, this conversation with you. You're my people, my friend, like straight up. Well, he jacked about this new friendship. NorCal, man. Yeah, nor cow, nor cow. So, but, yeah, so thank you again. I look forward to meeting you in person soon.

and for the audience, I want you to look at the deeper meaning of today's episode, right? It's always about moving forward in the moment, no matter how you feel in that current state, whether you feel bad or feel good, there is a goal that you have, that you have set, and it is your job to move forward no matter what. It doesn't matter how you feel, what matters is that you move forward on your dreams. Until next time, stay determined. I'll be working. Just know I'm a go for mine

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