Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - He Was Ready to Quit Until This Happened
Episode Date: May 9, 2025Jeremy Anderson shares how hitting rock bottom, losing everything, and battling addiction shaped him into a powerhouse speaker and leader. From suicidal students saved by his words to turning pain in...to purpose, this conversation is raw and inspiring. If you’re struggling or losing hope, this will shift your perspective. Sign up for Jeremy's Next Level Speakers Conference Get 20% off using my discount code: "TDS" https://www.nextlevelspeakersconference.com/2025registration Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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I went to the school to speak and motivate,
and everybody's pumped up and excited.
I high five of all the kids.
And the principal brings this girl to me.
She's like, this young lady wants to speak to you
and she's in tears saying, Mr. Jeremy,
I planned to commence suicide today.
I slipped out the back door to the school.
They caught me.
It made me come.
this stupid assembly, but I'm so glad I did.
Because of your message, I want to live.
I want to live. And, bro, she runs off the class.
You know my heart was just tore up, bro.
A lot of people say that there's no other high power.
That was an intervention from God.
Absolutely, bro.
Shut, French, what else?
The pain inspire me.
I put my all and everything I'm doing.
Up until it's done, I meet for the entirety.
I'm putting an over time.
I'll be working.
Just know I'm a go for mine because I earned it.
They watch and I know it's time.
I confirmed it.
A whole society determined.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome back to another episode.
I am your host, Sean Fritch.
Today I have with me an amazing dude, an amazing entrepreneur, the creator of next level speakers.
He founded the thing.
He's a seven-figure speaker.
He's been in the trenches.
He's been through the depths of darkness.
And he has risen up and he's now impacting many people.
He's also an author, an amazing husband and a philanthropist.
I have my boy, Jeremy Anderson with me.
What's up, dog?
show on what's up family how you feeling man man man it's just good to see you man just good to see you
like why this ain't a bad friday i get to hang out with one of my brothers and have a great
conversation and and just and just talk man no doubt no doubt glad to be here man thanks for having
me on the show bro i'm excited no it's an honor man thank you for being so gracious and uh
excited to be on um it's the feeling's mutual my friend absolutely so man i i just you know it's one of
those things where when I know so much about my guest, it's, I always have to rewind, right?
Because my audience may not exactly know. So for those individuals that don't know Jeremy Anderson,
why don't you give them a little bit of a background on kind of how your story started,
where you came from, and to lead you to where you are now. Yeah. So, so people come, I can't wait
to you come to our property here in Atlanta, bro. When people come to our house, whether it's
Amazon or orthetics or somebody dropping our food, the first thing they ask is, what do you do for a living?
And I'm like, you shouldn't ask me, what do I do now? You should ask me, what did I have to
overcome?
Like, what did I have to fight through? What pain, what suffering, what tears, what rejection,
what depression, when anxiety, what blood got spilled to get to where I am today, brother.
You feel me?
I do.
Like a lot of people, I grew up without my body.
father, you know, my mom had me when she was 16 years old. She had a drop out of school and
get her a GED, grew up in poverty. A lot of anger issues, bro, a lot of rage. You know what I'm
saying? Like, it's turned to passion now in purpose. But at that time, a lot of rage, a lot of
blaming cops and blaming teachers and blaming everybody else. Ten years of drug and drug and
alcohol abuse, repeated failure in school, a diagnosis of ADHD. Bro, I went to three different
schools for the ninth grade. I kept getting kicked out and
and killing and I finally got my act together.
I came across some teachers who really connected with me.
They really spoke life to me.
They really helped me see the greatness that was assigned to me.
Man, long story short, bro, I grind their heart.
I caught up on my right grade.
I graduated from high school on time.
I went to college, and it's like things were up and up.
But then I got mixed in with the wrong crowd.
And long story short, man, I started selling drugs.
I was selling weed by the pound.
I was pulling kick doors.
I was robbing other dope dealers.
You know what I'm saying?
And I was running two nightclubs.
One was for the grown and sexy where you had to wear a suit.
The other one was just like, you could wear your hat to the back and baggy jeans.
Rinse takes your laundry and hand delivers it to your door, expertly cleaned and folded.
So you could take the time once spent folding and sorting and waiting to finally pursue a whole new version of you.
Like tea time you.
Mmm.
Or this tea time you.
Or even this tea time you.
Said you hear about Dave?
Or even tea time, tea time, tea time you.
Mmm.
So update on Dave.
It's up to you.
We'll take the laundry.
Rince.
It's time to be great.
I was getting all this money and I wasn't living a life of purpose.
I was wandering the money, Sean.
Brow was renting a different luxury exotic car every week,
just like wasting money.
Like throwing parties with rap stars and getting drunk and getting high and just living
this wild record.
lifestyle. So when people see me today,
author and CEO of four different
companies and seven-figure speaker and
helping thousands of other speakers become six
and seven figures and all this positivity,
they hear me preaching the gospel and sharing
my testimony, they see all this positivity.
I'm like, yeah, but y'all don't know from what I've
come from.
Short, bro. I had to lose everything.
You know what I said? My mom, though my biological
father wasn't in my life,
can I talk about my faith, my brother?
Yeah, come on, man.
Though my biological father was in my life, man, God blessed me with the dad.
He married my mom and I was like eight years old.
And I was like, so you're going to be my daddy?
And he said yes.
And he began to grow with me and groom me over the years.
And I realized now the great things he was doing for me,
didn't realize that at the time.
But he was praying a prayer in the height of my success and crime and all the
craziness stuff I was doing.
He was like, God, whatever he's doing that doesn't bring.
you glory. I pray that he fails in it. And bro, within a week and a half, we end up losing both
nightclubs. My old connect got caught up with the feds. So I literally have, because I made all my
money from the dog game and from two nightclubs. And I was selling in one of the nightclubs,
that was the more hood, kind of more urban. It was like a wings place during the daytime. And so I was
moving work, drugs out of there. So,
people will come in like they're getting like a to go bag of wings and fries, but it's really a
whole pound of weed.
So I had this whole enterprise.
And I thought it was so brilliant, but by the grace of God, bro, I end up losing everything.
And I really ended up getting like hitting, bro.
And I tell you rock bottom, like rock bottom driving the 1987 Nissan stands a wagon.
And I had to drive with the windows rolled down.
The Craig, the car accident issue.
And the exhaust was in the car.
Man, I got humble.
I lost everything.
And I had this crazy experience with my grandmother.
And my grandma was just like, you know, what happened to my grandson that was doing positive things?
I was like, people change.
She said, baby, God can change you back.
And God can still use you.
And God has a plan for you.
And I felt something in that moment, bro.
And, man, gave my life to Christ, bro.
End up getting baptized, brother.
October 17th, 2009.
So October of this year
will be 16 years walking with crisis.
So I went through my transition,
my road to Damascus moment.
And I am,
why I am today because of all the things
I have to struggle through.
So I'll stop right there.
But that's the whole thing.
I love it.
They're amazed, bro.
I love it, man.
And that's what the audience,
I want the audience to really key in on that, right?
Because you mentioned in the very beginning.
And first of all,
I want to say, I grew up without a biological father until I was eight as well.
Okay.
And then my mom married someone that, as my dad.
And, you know, so we have a lot of similarities.
You know, I didn't get caught up in, you know, the nightclub and the selling drugs.
But I got caught up in as being a baseball player and out womanizing and drinking, you know,
I was in college.
Man, I was at LSU, bro.
I was in Baton Rouge.
And we were the big dudes on campus because that was back when football wasn't winning.
Like, we were.
We were it.
We had the run of Baton Rouge, bro.
Anywhere we went, road trips, it didn't matter.
So, but the, the bottom line is, is a lot of people to the point when FedEx comes, Amazon,
whatever, who, you know, comes to your house, says, man, what do you do for a living?
It's like, man, it ain't about what I do.
It's what did I overcome.
And for the audience, we guys watching and listening, I want you to think about your life right now
because, you know, we all want these flashy things.
We all want, you know, to be a seven.
seven figure speaker or a CEO of a company or a top show host.
And we have this this big idea and this big mountain, right?
The Mount Kilimanjaro, the peak of that dang thing.
And we think that's the, that's the treasure.
It's not.
That's not the treasure.
It's all those moments in between.
I talk about this very often, right?
Is those moments of pain, of shedding blood, crying when no one's
around. I mean, I can tell you up, up to about a year ago, when no one was home, I was sitting
in there in the office when I was recording at home, in between podcasts, crying because I was so
depressed and miserable. No one knows the struggle, but those are the moments that made me.
Those are the moments that made the show better. Those are moments that made me a better husband,
a better father, right? And so, like, I just think that's something to be said. And I just love how
you touched on that, right? Because you can't be an effective speaker.
if you don't understand that, you can't.
Right, right.
And a lot of people, a lot of people struggle with that, Sean.
Most people overcome something and it's like, okay, I'm not in that season no more.
I don't want to tell nobody.
And I'm like, no, tell the world.
Shout from the mountaintops.
Come on.
Let them know what you went through, how you overcame, what you experienced, how you fall through,
your perseverance.
Bro, people pay me $45,000 to $50,000.
every time I speak to share my perseverance, to share my story, to share my grit, to share my passion,
like, to share the mindset that I had and the action steps that I put in place to make it over.
And so I tell folks all the time, Sean, and you know this all too well, bro.
It's just like everything you've gone through, it's actually working out for your good.
It is actually strengthening you.
And so even when I went through, bro, I just came out one of the, it's crazy here where you were feeling
emotionally and mentally a year ago.
bro, I just came out of one of the heaviest and most challenging seasons, one of the most confusing seasons of my life.
And when I stand on stage and I speak and I'm sweating in my body temperature, it's like going up and I've got all this passion and people think I'm this motivational.
Nah, I'm just, I'm just persuaded by the pain, like the challenges, the heartbreak, like the struggles, like all of that stuff makes us and it forms us.
And if I could just tell your audience anything, the most brilliant thing I ever did, Sean,
is I didn't quit.
The most brilliant thing I ever did, bro, is I didn't give up.
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But that's the thing, man.
You know, like, it bothers me so much
when someone's like, man, I tried that.
It didn't work.
How long did you try it for?
How long did you try it for?
Come on.
Like, you're going to tell me
you tried something for a year and it didn't work?
That's not your checkpoint.
this show was nothing for three and a half years.
Come on.
Nothing.
Now we're top eight trending on Spotify?
Crazy.
It's because all of a sudden,
people say, where did that come from?
That was overnight.
No, it wasn't overnight.
You're just now seeing it.
But I was sitting there doing the work in my,
as I started it in my car,
then I went to my den.
and it was painful every time because I knew it wasn't it.
I was like, this isn't the final landing spot.
I don't have, I don't have this, I don't have that.
I don't have everything that I need in order to make this thing really great.
But what I did have is the presence of mind not to stop.
And I always, I always said to my, and shout out to my beautiful wife.
She goes, you have everything you need.
One day someone's going to see it.
and I'm like, that's not how it works in this business.
And baby, you were right.
I'm sorry.
You know, it's like, you just keep going because those moments of pain and heartache,
and even though it hurts so much, like, there was times, man,
I'm sure you can relate to this.
Jeremy, you know, bro.
Like, you wake up in the morning, you put your feet on the ground,
and you're grateful that God woke you up, but you're also like, damn, this hurts.
I can't today.
I can't.
Literally, and I tell myself that to this day sometimes,
There's days where I wake up like, I can't do this.
Today I woke up and I'm like, there's no shot I can get a good lift in.
So you know what I did?
I want to got a good lift in.
Because I take whatever pain I'm going in and I stared in the face and I lean right into that crap.
And now I can overcome.
But that's where greatness comes from, right?
Like that's why you are who you are.
That's where you are in life.
That's why you are who you are.
That's why you have to wipe the kids to life.
you were determined, pun intended, right?
You were determined to win.
And I just really got to a point while I was just like,
I need to start believing this.
Like, I need to start believing that no weapon
form against me shot prosper.
I'm more than a conqueror.
I need to start believing, Sean.
You know what I'm saying?
That he'll never leave me, no forsake me.
I had to start believing.
You don't say that I can really do all things through Christ.
I really start believing, you know what I'm saying?
That everything I was going through was going to make me stronger.
I had to start believing.
like all the things I was reading and all the quotes and all the books.
I looked at other amazing people who went through hard times and I realized there's one common
thing.
They didn't quit.
So I like you, brother, was determined to keep fighting.
And then you look up years later in, we got the whole next level brand.
So next level living, next level student curriculum, next level speaks academy, like all things next
level.
So I shake the addiction.
I shake the drug and alcohol.
Bro I was smoking two, three months a day.
I pack of Newport today.
in the fifth of henny, bro.
Like, I'm gonna wake up to the power.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, Don, who are your patrol?
Like, that's, I was just, and I set myself free.
Bro, do you know out of 15 and a half years,
I haven't taken out one drop of liquor?
I haven't taken out one puff.
And for anybody that enjoys it, like, cool.
But for me, I was a day to do it.
So I realized I'm not disciplined enough to have a cocktail or two.
Because basically, I know I'm trying to buy the bar
and I'm getting wasted.
that my boys are carrying me out or I'm lashing out or getting a DUI or something.
And so I realized, like, I got to cut all of this out.
And people say, Jeremy, how did you go without a Nicorette patch or AA meetings?
Like, I took it one day at a time.
Yeah.
I was determined every day, Sean, like, I want to win Friday.
I'm not worried about Saturday.
I'm going to let Sunday worry about herself.
Thursday is done.
I'm determined to win on Friday.
And then I went from one level to the next level, bro, and long story short, man, got a good job,
began to travel and speak here or there, going to schools and churches, and had a great career,
and me and my wife bought a house, and I'm giving 20% and 30% to my local church and charities,
because I just, I wanted to start giving the little bit that I had, right?
Because I was just so grateful to have this new life and eventually quit my job,
because I made a little girl pretty red hair and freckles seventh grade that told me she was
going to commit suicide, bro. But because of my story, she wants to live. So on a little seventh
grader in Alabama changed my life. I went to the school to speak and motivate and everybody's pumped
up and excited. I high five of all the kids. And the principal brings this girl to me. She's like,
this young lady wants to speak to you and she's in tears saying, thank you, thank you, thank you,
you. You saved my life. I'm thinking like my story wasn't that good. She said, Mr. Jeremy, I plan
going to commit suicide today.
I slipped out the back door to the school.
They caught me and made me come to this stupid assembly,
but I'm so glad I did because of your message,
I want to live.
I want to live.
And, bro, she runs off the class.
You know my heart was just tore up, bro.
Dude, I'm speechless on that, bro.
And it's so funny when, like, not funny, comical,
but it's crazy to me because a lot of people say that there's no other,
there's no high power.
That was an intervention from God.
Absolutely, bro.
Absolutely, bro.
I went home, told my wife, and I was like, babe, I need to quit my job and go full-time.
I'm not just motivating people.
I think I actually just saved this little girl's life.
And, bro, my wife's so gangster, she quit her job, too.
She was like, you still got ADHD.
You'd be all over the place.
So I'm going to quit my job and we're going to build it together.
And I was saying, are you sure about that?
Because she worked for the government.
or we went all in.
We were charmed.
We were determined, brother.
It's wild.
So when people see the way we live now and how we travel and the kids were able to put in college,
our foundation, we put 60 kids through college since 2020.
And we see the thousand young children every week in South Africa.
Wow.
Wow.
So though I'm bringing in a lot of revenue, I'm also dishing out a lot.
Yeah.
Blessing a lot of people.
So my message to others is like anything.
possible to every person listening on this podcast like when you were determined you surround yourself
with good people man brother possibilities are endless brother i'm i'm running my mouth too much let me stop
no man you're good bro like hey you're on a role man i absolutely love you bro like here's the thing dude
you know you're you're you're saying all you're you're telling your story and the one thing that i
want to point out to the audience man because i always like to talk to him during the shows right
because I want them to connect.
So a lot of people think it's motivation and none of it is.
None of it is.
I know they label you as a motivational speaker.
And at times people go, Sean's a great motivator.
I'm not a great motivator.
I'm just telling my story.
And I tell you what, I'm not a very motivated individual.
Like, I mean, straight up, like there's moments of motivation.
Like, don't get me wrong.
Like, if an idea hits me, I get excited, I'm motivated, but what takes me through is discipline.
And what I want, what I'd like for you to do is talk to the audience on the difference of how you see motivation versus discipline.
Because to me, they're two different things.
Because, like, for instance, someone comes to your event in Atlanta in June, right?
I'll be there.
Can't wait.
We had a special gift for you audience.
So make sure you hang out and wait.
listen and then also check the show notes but you know the bottom line is i could go there and i can
watch all these amazing speakers and i can be so motivated at that point then i get on the flight
and something happens me and my wife getting an argument right or something happens to one of my
kids where that motivation go is gone so what most people shut down at that point instead of following
through with what they said they were going to so i'd like for you to speak on that yeah so i often tell
people, when motivation runs out, dedication has to click in. Okay. And so, and so for me and my mindset,
I realize in order for me to dominate, I've got to be super disciplined, right? So I'm waking up 4 o'clock,
five o'clock in the morning. I have my one-on-one time while I can meditate. I can pray. I can read.
I can grow as a person so I can be the husband for my wife, Tracy, so I can be the father for
Jackson and Jewel. Because if not, and I'm just on some me stuff,
it's not going to be pretty, right? So I'm working on my character every day, bro. It's like I have to kill the old
Jeremy. I have to kill the average Jeremy. I have to be super duper disciplined, right? So there are certain
websites I can't go to. It's certain people on social media I can't follow. It's certain conversations
I refuse to have. Like, I've just got super, I've got to be super duper discipline in order to go to the next level
because I am not super duper motivated. People think because I work out five, six days a week,
like you, Sean, you super fit. When they probably think,
like you love going to the gym.
Bro, I'm not a gym buff like that.
I don't like going.
I don't like going.
Because I'm disciplined.
I would much rather be at home kicking it or in the backyard going for a swim.
But I'm in the gym, hitting that iron, you know what I'm saying?
Like hitting the weights.
Like in the sauna, I go in the cold plunge.
I hate the cold plunge.
They talk about all the great benefits.
I'm like, that's great.
This is cold as hell, though.
You know what I'm saying?
But I'm in there because I'm disciplined my mind.
Yep.
I discipline my soul, my spirit that says commit yourself to this pain, commit yourself
for this torture.
It's mental, Jeremy.
Control your breathing.
Five seconds inhale, five seconds exhale.
You were stronger than this cold water.
There are people that do this every single day.
Don't be physically strong, but mentally weak.
So I'm putting myself through this process to be disciplined.
Talk to me, brother.
So don't be physically strong and mentally weak.
That to me resonates, right?
because, you know, we can be physically strong and we can look a certain way.
But if our mind is mush and we don't push ourselves and if we give in to too many
victimhood mentality, somebody else's fault, or whatever, like your mindset is the only
thing you can actually control.
And for those of you listening right now and saying, no, because I just lost my job,
I cannot control my mindset, my life sucks.
Well, what if you lost your job because God's trying to show you there's something
different for you.
You know, I'll give somebody a very simple, a very simple example, okay?
You're on the interstate and you have somewhere to be.
And all of a sudden there's an accident in front of you or you're late.
Maybe here's a better one because this happens, right?
You know this.
You live with a woman.
You live with kids.
They'll make you late for stuff, man.
Dave.
Yeah.
We and why say we want to be out of the door by 8 a.m.
It's 9.45. I'm like, what the hell, man?
You know, like, we're out. It's not that late, but maybe 40 minutes late.
Then we go down 75, we get to like, you know, Sarasota maybe, there's a massive accident.
That could have been us.
So what the audience really challenged their paradigm or perspective?
Because if you're late for something or if something shifts in your life, maybe it's saving you from something pretty catastrophic.
Facts. Facts. And I think.
I think a lot of people, you know, don't realize, like, everything is going, there are certain things we can control, but certain things we can't control.
And it's like, okay, you're rushing here, but that could have been you on the side of road.
Like, that could have been that crazy accident.
So, like, be grateful.
And so for me, even when bad things happen, when the door closes, I'm like, that just wasn't my opportunity.
When a deal doesn't come through or are they didn't sign the contract, they won another speaker.
Well, obviously, that's not what I'm supposed to have.
You know what I'm saying?
So if the plane was late, okay, well, obviously I'm not supposed to be in the air at that time.
So I don't even get caught up on on that.
I'm at peace with it.
And I'm chasing one thing I was talking about our mutual friend, E.T.
Dr. Eric Thomas, E.T. the hip-hop preacher.
E.T. was just like, Jeremy, don't chase peace.
Chase perfect peace.
So I'm in the place night.
I'm going to tell every man, every woman that's listening to the show, that's watching the show right now.
Like, I'm chasing peace now.
I'm someone that Rob has so much trauma.
I've had so much turmoil.
I'm chasing peace now.
Though I'm super passionate and loud,
like an energetic,
but ultimately,
bro,
I want peace.
And so I'm trying to find a way now.
Even when bad things happen,
I'm at peace.
Even when the door closes.
I'm at peace.
It's not breaking out how I want.
I'm at peace.
And says the thing,
man,
like before we hopped on the call,
I got word that I didn't get a certain gig
that I thought I was going to get.
And I looked at it.
I said,
bet. Good. Let
them choose somebody else for this. That's fine. It wasn't
the room I was supposed to be in. It's okay.
You know, and I'm not going to lie, right? Initial knee jerk
reaction, low level Sean kicks in like, seriously? Come on. Like, what the
heck, man? Like, this sucks. I really needed to do this. This is a great opportunity.
I'm like, hold on. Wasn't for you. Shift.
Right. And I think that it's so important. And I know,
lot of people probably listen like, hey, I just can't do that. I just can't do that. Well, then start
small. Start small. Like, if you cannot do that on a massive level yet, then start with one thing
that you can control. Just one thing. Like, get up and go for a walk. What people don't understand
is everything's connected, right? And the biggest thing, where you find peace, this is my opinion,
right? This is for me. And I want to hear what you have to say to. But I, I, I don't know,
I find I can achieve peace when I'm living right.
And that is very, very broad.
So I'm going to break it down.
It's called alignment.
So when I think of, when I get to Heaven's Gates and God is going to introduce me to some man.
And I'm going to be like, who is that?
He goes, well, that's you.
That's the vision I created you in.
You don't recognize him?
scares me. It scares me so badly, right? So for me, what is that higher self? What do I want out of
this life? What is my purpose? I feel my purpose was this. My whole life, I could speak to
all walks of life. It didn't matter if you're a construction worker, a doctor, a homeless person.
It didn't matter. I was able to find something relatable to have a conversation with somebody
about. And when I turned 42, I found the mic.
Right. And I started, and it was good, but I wasn't in complete alignment yet, right?
So I was just talking to my team before the show was like, I can remember as early as to,
it's funny because he's showing you're super fit. Well, in June, I'm not sorry, in December of 2024,
I was 30 pounds heavier. I was 31% body fat, sloppy, sloppy. And look, I was talking about,
my show was called The Determined Society, right? And we had great show analytics. We were doing well,
all this kind of stuff. But it's like, here I am talking about.
determination and discipline and I'm showing it in one area of my life just one
which is the show and I can look I can at that point can look at myself in the mirror
that one day and I go how dare you talk about this how dare you talk about
discipline how dare you talk about determination because you can't even be
disciplined on what you put in your mouth or if you're getting up and go to the gym
you know what I'm saying so so this is what's crazy the moment I started
being aligned and making decisions that are in line with that individual
it's going to become one of those top level hosts, right?
The chasing of the Joe Rogan, who I think is a goat, right?
Like chasing him, getting that same conversation of these bigger names.
Like, I had to be the best me.
So I started chipping away at it.
I started chipping away at it.
I'm not going to chase them.
I'm going to be the best me.
I'm going to control my diet.
I'm going to get in the gym, right?
And so that's where we're at right now.
I go from 198 to 200, right around in that two, two,
two pound range right and you know on a caliper i'm measuring 10.7 percent come on come on
bro i mean so yeah wow again i find peace in alignment with who i'm supposed to be that that's it
for me that's what it is that's it you know you know when i think about um the determined society
i think about like having a determined mindset i heard this quote by my brother inki once that says
I don't want to be a public success, but a private failure.
Come on, man.
So what I am always doing is, is I'm taking a deep audit in my life.
Right.
And so I've realized something, this is going to sound crazy.
You get it.
But your audience might feel like, wow, as I began to work on my character, my money went up.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, as I began to work on myself internally, and so I realized, like, I'm giving so much attention to my
companies and my business and my stage and my branding and my community. I don't want my family
to suffer. And so I began to put more work in. So now me and my wife, we get marriage counseling,
we're getting stronger, we're being more intimate. And I used to think intimacy was just like
physically, but now it's like emotionally available. And I'm really open, like, on my heart and
breaker through some of those, some of those traumas and really availing myself to her. And now I've
see my life, like, blossoming and blooming like a flower I've never seen before.
And I'm more present with my kids.
I just, well, right before I came on the show, I just went across town to go to my son's
school for a field day and had lunch with him and came right back to me with you, right?
My daughter, I helped her become an author.
She wrote her book, Jewel's Adventure in South Africa.
Now she's working on her adventure that she took when she wanted a trip to parents with
my wife.
Like, I'm just finding new ways to pour into my kids.
And so I'm in my wife.
And so I'm really working on myself.
I've got my own counselor.
I'm doing my own therapist.
I'm doing the yoga.
I'm doing what I've got to do to be the best me.
So when you talk about like alignment and really having that perfect piece, like that's it.
Because years ago, Sean, I was running on fumes.
Yeah, man.
I didn't realize it.
And I was just taking care of everybody else.
And my counselor says, you know, Jeremy, like, you got to take care of you.
Now, Sean, what you got to what kind of vehicle you drive?
I drive a TRX.
Okay.
So if you're in your TRX and you're driving and whether it's a full tank or whether you've got 10 miles,
you can still get to 100 miles an hour, right?
Quickly.
You know what happened?
When the miles here zero, you're going to go instantly from 100 miles an hour within two minutes
to 90, 80, 70, 60, 10 miles to putting on the side of the bro.
That's where I was years ago, bro.
I was matching the gay.
Super determined, super disciplined, super focused,
taking care of everybody else,
but I wasn't taking care of myself.
So when you talk about,
and I almost find myself like on the side of the road of life.
So when you talk about like value system
and really making sure that, you know what I'm saying,
that you're at peace with yourself and that perfect peace
and really kind of making sure that you are in the best space
and you're taking care of you on the inside
so that, you know what I'm saying?
You can really live that life of purpose.
Like, I relate to that a lot.
Yeah, no, I appreciate that, man.
You know, you know, I've been on that side, you know, the side of the road in life, too, right?
And it's really about being honest with yourself, man.
And I think the things that we have the opportunity to do every single day, just like you said, you went to a field day.
Like, I had to have lunch with your son.
I get to do that a lot.
You know, I went to my daughters.
This one, can I tell you a story real quick?
Yeah, come on.
So my daughter goes, my kids go to this prep school.
And it's a really good school.
My wife teaches there, praise God, because it's 30 grand a year to go there.
And we don't have to pay that.
So that's nice.
It's like college.
So she's in kindergarten.
And she comes home to me.
And I hear my wife come through the door and, you know, my daughter,
I say, chatter.
And she goes, go ask your daddy.
Go ask your daddy.
And so she goes, you think he'll do it?
You think he'll do it?
Just question your dad.
Go, go, go, go, go.
So she comes up to me and she goes, Daddy, she hands me this packet.
It's an entrepreneurial competition packet.
Will you do this with me?
I go, Mia, say less.
Like, absolutely.
Come on, let's go.
Well, you know, it's like, oh, you can make trinkets.
You can make something.
You can make stuffed animals.
What do you want to make?
Right.
Because I want to help people, Dad.
Wow.
I'm like, how are you going to do that?
She goes,
same way you do
I'm going to start a podcast
I'm like
I'm like right now
getting emotional about it right
so I'm like well
what are you
what are you going to do
and she goes
well I just want to help kids
and I said okay
well let's back up
what do you want to call it
because I know one of your
one of your favorite things is pandas
yes we can call it panda show
I'm like
how about
you know, we search some names.
Like, how about panda paws, right?
You know?
And because the premise is that she says,
I want to help kids that are my age
deal with their big emotions
because sometimes their adults don't understand
when we have them.
Wow.
So she created this, you know, of course.
She's a killer guard.
She's a witch, bro.
Like, she's so smart, dude.
Wow.
So I'm like, all right, cool.
So, you know, I had to build out revenue streams with her and, you know, processes and all that kind of stuff.
Long story short, she ends up, you know, going in my old office where I used to shoot my show.
She gets on the mic, you know, I fire up the computer.
I get her on Riverside.
I'm taking photo.
She's got all the deal.
And we do everything.
And she placed.
You know, she took third place, man.
But it's because of those moments that we pour into our children, that we have the opportunity to pour into our children during the work.
day when they're at school and be a part of it, it creates for some great moments like that,
which give us peace.
For sure.
For sure.
And that's what it's all about.
You know, that's what it's all about.
Man, I'll have to come back and go deeper into the framework that I created years ago called
Occupational Integrity.
And it's really operating at the highest level with integrity in all the spaces you occupy as a human.
So I just spoke for Space X a few, about a month.
ago, I was looking for a quarter company.
Like when I'm with all these big companies, they're like, Jeremy, come in and teach on your framework of occupational integrity because nobody's ever heard of that.
But that's something that I created myself.
And so most people's like, okay, this is where you learn how to operate with integrity at the highest level at work on your occupation.
No, you occupy this space shown as a husband, as a mother, as a speaker, as a podcast host, as an author.
like you occupy multiple spaces.
So I really, my,
my life, my purpose and life,
yes, helping people speak and help them
be successful there, monetize their message.
But in addition to that, I want people to
operate the highest level in every aspect.
And it's possible, but not possible if you don't take care of you.
So are you listeners?
Like, you hear what Sean is saying.
Sean is saying the adjustments he had to make.
I'm saying adjustments I have to make.
And yeah, I've accomplished some things,
but I'm really trying to let the audience know,
like I've struggled and I made a ton of mistakes and I'm getting counseling and therapy
trying to figure it out but we're determined to win right and I just I just I just I want when I
every time I grab the microphone I find the way to let people know it is possible for you to win
and to win big in every aspect of life but you got to be as you often say determined you got to be
determination does it look like what everybody thinks it looks like and everybody thinks it's like
this sexy gritty fighting type of thing it's just sometimes it's putting your shoes on
when you don't want to, you know, and, you know, metaphorically speaking,
as we land the plane, do we got to talk about the event, man, June 7th or the 9th,
I'm going to be there.
I'm going to be there with you, Inky, E.T.
I know my boy Brandon Burns is going to be there.
My girl, Rachel, I'm super excited to see everybody.
So, you know, talk to the audience about that.
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All right.
You better be there, especially my Atlanta folk.
Yes, sir.
So, Sean, so I started the next level Speakers Academy five years ago.
I've had guys that used to play in the NFL, the NBA, and women that was retired from NASA.
People send me DMs.
Can you coach me?
Can you mentor me?
I follow you.
I follow ET.
I follow in key.
And I never had time.
But when the pandemic came and all my virtually, I'm my, my, I'm a lot of my, I'm
I events were virtual, I was like, well, I have time to create a program. And so we had one of the top
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You'll see, brother.
I'm excited to host you.
We're going to spoil you, bro.
You're going to take great care of you.
It's going to be.
You're going to spoil your boy, huh?
That's dope.
I love it.
I'm excited.
Yeah, it's going to be good, man.
It's going to be good.
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So I am excited, man.
It's going to be here in Atlanta, Georgia,
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it's going to be epic, man.
I'm excited.
That's going to be great, man.
It's going to be kicking with y'all.
I haven't seen, I saw, I was with E.T. in July.
Okay.
So I can't believe it's almost been a year.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A year.
We were in Traverse, Michigan.
That's where y'all were in Traverse Michigan?
Yeah.
That's where we linked up.
Traverse Michigan.
Wow.
At Glover U.
He did a big keynote there for that real estate conference.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a beautiful city, bro.
That's a beautiful town.
Really?
I haven't been.
They called the Bahamas of America.
Like, it's clear water.
It's just strange.
Like, sleeping bare dunes, like Lake Michigan.
When we get down here, go Google that.
It is beautiful, bro.
It's beautiful.
It's gorgeous.
But, no, man, I just want to thank you so much.
for coming on today and sharing your story and really connecting with the audience and really not
just speaking, you know, to them, speaking with them. I feel like you, you look the audience in the eye
today and you got heart to heart with them and really explained your story, you know, on what you
went through and what you had to overcome to get there because, and you started it off perfectly,
talking about everybody sees how you live. It's like, what do you do? It's not about what I do.
It's what I had to overcome to get here. And so with the audience, like, guys, you know,
There's, if you're, if, if you're going through something that hurts so bad right now,
you know, whether you're, you're thinking about, you know, an attempt on your life or
things like that.
Reach out to somebody, man.
Reach out to somebody.
Hell, reach out to me because the bottom line is, um, you're going through this.
And if you get through that one moment, you're going to be stronger than you've ever imagined.
And that's what's going to take, right?
It's what's going to take for you to get, to achieve your dreams is to become really strong
and overcome things that you don't think you can.
But the bottom line is, God wouldn't give it to you if you couldn't.
Hmm.
Can I ask something to that, brother?
Yeah, man.
Come on.
You know what I love about what you said is people don't realize the stuff that they're going through,
like how it makes them that much stronger.
But we've got a community of thousands of speakers who have gone through pain and tests
and trials and tribulations, but they learn how to package it.
It's profiting from their pain.
They figured it out.
They cracked the cold, you know?
And so I often tell folks, Sean, it's like, okay, because there are some people that say,
I want to be a motivational speaker, but I'm going through a really dark time right now.
Well, that's because God don't want you out here camping and lying.
Like, so people just to go through something so that you overcome it.
So you've got so weight behind your message, right?
And so to anybody that's listening that has thought about, maybe sharing their,
message, like sharing their story like people are profiting and able to create additional revenue
from sharing their story and their message and their pain. It's not a testimony if you don't
testify. I am such a big supporter of people saying, hey, this is the mistakes I made. This is
the mess, the screw ups and this is the challenges I have, but I made it over. And I didn't figure it out.
And I'm looking forward to helping individuals, man, like,
trying to take back their pain, take back that shame and really lean in to help other people.
Because on your show, people drawn to you because you're open and you're vulnerable and you're transparent.
You literally just told them, you don't know what I'm saying, how you were 30 pounds of weight, 30%?
You don't what I'm saying, body fat, like in the funk a year ago dealing with depression.
Like, the average person, as you know, Sean, is not really sharing that.
Yeah.
But that's your power.
That's your strength.
He's like, yeah, I was there.
I'm not there right now, but that's where I was,
and this is where I am now.
And that gives people hope, man.
So just grateful to be on the show, man,
and grateful to be building with your brother.
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Well, dude, you're welcome back anytime.
We can have you back a little bit later and talk about your other thing and how it relates
to everything.
But, dude, it was just a pleasure, man.
I'm so grateful to be connected with you now.
And, you know, I can't wait to see you guys.
And June, it's going to be awesome.
So, again, thank you, brother.
Thank you.
For the audience, I want to thank you for listening.
Please do me a favor.
If you know anybody that needs to hear this message, please share it with them.
Please share the show, share the message, connect with us, let us know what you loved about the show, you know,
and really dive into this message because there's a lot of great things said today that if you just leave the possibility open, that it may be true, not just true for us, but true for you too.
You could overcome the hardest things in your life and become a massive success.
And you could have peace and alignment at the same time.
All right, guys.
So I love y'all.
Thanks for listening.
Until next time, stay determined.
I'm friends, what else doing up until it's done.
I meet for the entirety.
I put in over time.
I'll be working.
Just know I'm a go for mine because I earned it.
They watch and I know it's time.
I confirmed it.
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