Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - How Jeffrey Delaney Is Rewriting the Rules of Men’s Health

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

In this powerful episode of The Determined Society, host Shawn French sits down with Jeffrey Delaney — founder of T Clinics and Nuviva Medical Weight Loss — to talk about what really happens when ...men lose their edge.Jeffrey breaks down the myths around testosterone, hormone therapy, nutrition, and popular GLP-1 medications like Ozempic and Tirzepatide. Together, he and Shawn unpack what it means to be a modern man — one who leads with strength, vulnerability, and consistency — while challenging the stigma around masculinity and self-care.If you’ve ever felt stuck, exhausted, or unsure how to get back to feeling like yourself again, this episode will show you where to start and how to take control of your health for good.Key Takeaways-True health isn’t just physical — mental clarity begins in the body.-Hormone balance can reignite drive, motivation, and emotional stability.-Quick fixes like GLP-1s work only when paired with movement and nutrition.-Sleep, nutrition, training, and mindset are the four pillars of lasting wellness.-Masculinity isn’t toxic — it’s essential to family and personal balance.-Comparison kills progress; consistency creates transformation. Connect with me :https://link.me/theshawnfrench?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaY2s9TipS1cPaEZZ9h692pnV-rlsO-lzvK6LSFGtkKZ53WvtCAYTKY7lmQ_aem_OY08g381oa759QqTr7iPGAJeffrey Delaneyhttps://linktr.ee/jeffreydelaney?utm_source=linktree_profile_share

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 I remember being at John Huffman's event and I saw you from the corner of the room. I didn't say anything to you because I was too embarrassed to talk to you. Because of the way I looked and the way my mind was at that time, I was so distraught. I was an emotional wreck. One of the best antidepressants you could ever do is physical movement. You preach on determination. You preach on having it all together. But unfortunately, when you get busy in life, a lot of things tend to go on the back burner.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I was literally on the couch. in a blanket, hiding from the world. You age, your T levels give it below a certain point, and you lose that drive, you lose that motivation, you lose just who you are, you get frustrated with the world, just all stress compiles. What happened quickly for me,
Starting point is 00:00:46 going through your programs and listening to you and your staff was, my mind woke up. I became less angry. We all have crap in our life for things that have happened, but when you're not healthy, you're eating bad, and you're not sleeping, it magnifies it tenfold. What's up, everybody?
Starting point is 00:01:08 I'm here today with my good friend Jeff Delaney. He's a founder of T-Clinic and New Viva. And a lot of times I've spoken over the last year about my journey with getting back in shape, being healthy, mentally, and physically, and how it's done tremendous things for my show and my business side of it. And, you know, so today I have Jeff Delaney on and, man, I'm just so happy to have you on the show finally. And, bro, you've changed my life.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And I just want to thank you. I mean, listen, you know, that's the least I could do. That's kind of why I do what I do is to just try to hopefully make a positive impact and more than just my close fear of people. So like seeing a friend actually kind of get back on track. And, you know, I'm excited just, thanks for having me first off, because your show is crushing it, man. Like you're doing so good. It's a blur. But, you know, it's, but I see you, you're just pushing it further and better.
Starting point is 00:02:00 and just, just, I'm excited to see where this thing keeps going. Dude, you and me both, man. I was just sitting here, we had this conversation yesterday in the phone. It's like pushing it so much, it can get, you can start to go backwards a little bit because it's like, you know, when you get so busy and you're constantly filming, constantly doing something, you know, the other side of it does tend to suffer. You know, like the five days in the gym turned to two days, maybe to three days. And it's just super inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:02:26 So the one thing that I love about your business is New Viva. and even T clinics is the community portion. It's the it's the accountability and the things that I get to do on a weekly basis going in there, which I said off air, I need to get back in there. You need to do that. Like I'm committing to it. Well,
Starting point is 00:02:44 I'm excited. Listen, not just for that, but to get Sean to the 3.0. I always, like, look forward to that portion. Yeah. And we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Yeah. Yeah. But that's the thing, dude. It's like you've taken me. And because people, you know, listen,
Starting point is 00:02:57 I had this show on discipline and determination, right? And I've said it a thousand times. but never with you, you know, in front of the microphone. Like I had this brand that I was selling, which is determination and discipline, like I said. But the only place I was displaying that was in the show. It was I looked a fat mess. And I'm not saying that you have to be in great shape in order to be successful. But for me, my mental was, I mean, there was moments that I couldn't get off the couch unless I was filming.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And it's so funny. And I don't know if. I've told you this story yet, but it's about you. Okay. And it's, uh-oh. It's about you. Yeah. And I remember being at John Huffman's event and I saw you from the corner of the room and I
Starting point is 00:03:41 didn't say anything to you because I was too embarrassed to talk to you because of the way I looked and the way my mind was at that time, I was so withdrawn and even scared to talk to people that I knew. And then you grabbed your lunch and you came up and you're like, hey, what's up? And then that's when it started. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of people like obviously if you know me, I'm the I'm the last person to judge someone. And just to kind of give you some grace too on what you just said, you know, prior to that is like, you know, you preach on determination.
Starting point is 00:04:13 You preach on like having it all together. But unfortunately when you get busy in life, a lot of things tend to go on the back burner. And it's like you kind of, you're never going to have perfect harmony or balance. Like they're never that when you're trying to really focus. on something or grow something. So you just got to find like where can you get some consistency. And like said, if if your exercise or your training, you know, because things are so busy, go to the back burner, you just tweak the plan.
Starting point is 00:04:41 You adjust it. So you're, you got to still put in some effort and some work. But it's, it's common. You're not the only person. Trust me. I'm in this business. I've been in this business forever. I've done this my whole life.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And there are seasons where my stuff goes to the back burner. So I, I just, and you know, and that's something we need to talk about is this you restructure that plan so it fits your life and fits your current schedule. And then once you get past that season, you readjust per like how much you could put into it. So you just find a little bit of balance, even though there's never going to be 100% balance. The thing that that suffers for me, and that's what I really want you to dive into for the men listening. And for even women listening and watching to help their husbands or their young sons, maybe in their 20s, 30s is the thing that really went south for me is my mental state. Dude, again, I want to go back to those moments where I was literally on the couch, in a blanket, hiding from the world.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And the only time that I was present was on camera because I was so distraught. I was an emotional wreck. And what happened quickly for me going through your programs and listening to you and your staff was, I changed my nutrition. I started getting the treatments. I started getting consistent with my TRT replacement therapy. I started doing those GLP ones. And I do want to touch on those today because those aren't a pangea. They're not a cure-all.
Starting point is 00:06:07 You got to work while you're on them. But the moment I started implementing that routine, my mind woke up. I became less angry. I, and I'm sure, because we've been friends for a long time, my show used to have a lot of fillers in there called the F word. Right. and a lot of anger coming through. And then once I was on week one, that started to go to.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I can remember the last show that was riddled with curse words. That was the Joe Pavich episode. And then shortly after that, it started just to go like this in a good way where I was being more articulate. I was having better conversation. I didn't need those words to express how I felt. And you were a big part of that. I appreciate that. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Well, you know, I think one of the biggest. things for both men and women. More so men, you know, we get past certain age. And I think hormones is probably the biggest anchor in the water for a lot of people is like, you know, you age, your T levels give it below a certain point.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And you lose that drive. You lose that motivation. You lose just who you are. You kind of, you know, things bother you more. You get frustrated with the world. Just all stress compiles tenfold when your hormones are right.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Now there's a flip side of that, you know, obviously taking too much or, you know, not being dose properly, you could create some other problems as well. But true hormone therapy or I always say, you know, hormone balancing, when you get that right, especially for a guy, like that kind of halts the deterioration process, how we are physically, mentally, emotionally. It's just it has such a positive cascade effect in people's lives to get your hormones balanced.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And like you said, you probably were tired, lethargic, frustrated the world, things bother you. That probably would have never bothered you before. And it's like, that's probably one of the. biggest anchors, I think for guys is getting that done right. Because once again, you've done hormone therapy. Sometimes therapy done wrong, it's good for the short haul. And I was kind of used car analogies. It's like when you've redline a car, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:08:08 But eventually things start to break. And so that's kind of like where you, no matter where you go or if you ever get hormone therapy, just make sure they're being specific to you because that's where it gets better as you age versus good for the front end and then kind of things start falling apart. if you're not managing it appropriately or dosing it appropriately. So, you know, I think for you, that was one thing that just needed to be tweaked was get your hormones back in line. And you see just your mental state, how you are emotionally starts fixing. And then kind of, you know, as a cascade of that is, you know, you get motivated to get back to do the things you want to do.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I think a lot of guys, when their hormones are off, they put in the work or they try to put it in the work. They go to the gym. They exercise. but they get very little ROI because the hormones are tanked and it's like you're like, well, shoot, I'm putting in the work. I'm doing A, B, and C, and I'm not seeing anything come from it. And that's kind of where a lot of guys get frustrated and they're just like, F it.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And, you know. I think there's a lot of noise too, right? There's a lot of noise on the internet. There's a lot of every single fitness coach you talk to, every single clinic you talk to has a different, I guess, viewpoint on what proper nutrition is, right? Like, I remember when I was going carnivore for so long, I felt the best. But then someone's like, well, you need at least, your brain needs at least 120 grams of carbohydrates, a day to even function. Like, you're killing your brain.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And that's why you're getting sick. And I'm not saying that's wrong, right? But for me, the best I've ever felt in my life was when I was the modified carnivore, right? I was doing a ton of protein and I was doing fruits. And I felt amazing. But there's so much noise. I mean, there's men listening right now. They don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Because it seems so big, right? Because they look at that where they're at right now and they want to go straight forward to that end goal, like that Sean 3.0 or that that Jeffrey 3.0, whatever their name is, they want to go straight to that. And they have to understand that. Look, this is a process. And you need to go on small wins.
Starting point is 00:10:13 You need to have the right meal. Then you need to go to the gym. And then you need to have another good meal and stack these wins. and then all of a sudden at the end of the week, you're like, oh my God, I'm down five pounds. This is fantastic. Now I keep it going. But like what would you say to the man that is just so confused right now? It may not have the support available like a new Viva or a T clinic or someone that they trust because I think that's a big thing.
Starting point is 00:10:36 But the other side of it is too, there's a lot of monetary restrictions for men and women in this world right now. What would you say to them to be like, hey, this is where you start. If you can't do all this, this is what you should do. Honestly, that's a great point. Um, I think first off with the world we live and you just said, you know, there's the information overlap. And I think a lot of people tend to now. It's like, all right, well, this guy's telling me to do this.
Starting point is 00:11:01 This person saying go in carnivore. This person says, I have to have 120 grams of carbs. You know, people get paralysis by analysis. And, and, you know, I, I feel bad for a lot of the people find a resource of information. First off, that's pretty consistent and accurate because unfortunately there's a lot of inaccurate information out there, especially through social media. And then going into like what you were talking about, you know, I, I hate when somebody goes all in overnight.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I'm not a big fan of that. Like I like, let's let's look at the food, you know, and for me, I always say 80% is nutrition. I mean, that's going to change your life drastically, right? So let's try to get a little bit better with the food. Let's maybe move a little bit because if you go all in, it'll never stick. It's never going to be a lifestyle change or a habit. So, you know, I like to just almost like, I use an analogy, like put the frog in the water.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Let's just turn up the heat over time. And then you end up picking up those proper habits. You're, you know, eat a little bit better. You start stacking those small little wins and those little wins over time is going to be a big ass win. It's just. It sure is, man. Just most people don't have, you know, I, I used to see it all the time. Clients would go like, it's the new year.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I'm going to go up, new year, new me. And they go from zero to 60. they freaking go from eating like complete crap to like something super super strict and they go to the gym and they're putting in five or six days a week and they get results but then eventually sometimes going too hard works against you metabolically they get stuck and then they're putting in the work they're not seeing the ROI and then what happens they they have a break they give up and all of a sudden next you know they're in a worse off position it's almost they you know they rebound harder they metabolically they mess up their rents metabolism. So, you know, if you're looking to get started, start by, you know, getting consistent with your food. You know, one of the best things you can do is just make sure you have minimum breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And we'll talk is some people could do three meals, three snacks. Some people could do three meals a day. Some people say, I want to enter a minute fast, which there's, depending on the person and the place, you know, there's a place for it. But just get
Starting point is 00:13:08 consistent with meals. Try to start cleaning up some of your food. You know, I always say every meal should have a little bit of protein. That should be a staple of your diet that's going to maintain muscle it's going to help you kind of body composition change um and start just with a little bit of tweaks maybe get away from some process food to more whole foods good now let's go okay what can you do per week you know if you want to do you know strength train maybe we're going to do three days a week um and and just build your schedule that get that that that traction get that snowball going and then as you feel better you function better you you know then you start adding a little bit but I would rather you do it over time to where it's not so drastically different than what you're going to do and make sure it fits your schedule.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Because if it doesn't fit your schedule, there's no way in how you're going to keep doing it. It's true, man. And the one thing, like, and I think men and just women, humans in general can relate to this. As your schedule gets busier, because I'm experiencing this. Like, there's moments where I, like, I haven't had enough protein today. And it's almost noon, right? Go home. I'll do a protein shake.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Hit the gym. right and then and then after that I'm like oh gosh like you know so what happens is when when I'm underfed the whole day you know what happens at night right like I dude all I want is chocolate yeah like all I want is cookies and I'm starting to fall back into that I had like one and a half cookies last night and for you guys oh one and a half cookies is bad no I'm talking crave cookies yeah I mean I'm gonna be real like I had 700 calorie dense cookie yeah dude I mean like it was a good ass cookie but like I woke up this morning and even though I slept it'll be proud of me. I went to bed at 8.30 last night. I woke up at 6.30. I had like almost 10 hours
Starting point is 00:14:48 of sleep, but I'm still not feeling good because of what I put in my body afterwards. So like, I just, I really want to focus on that too, is like, how can we get those cravings to subside in the evening time? One of the best and easiest things you could do is never let yourself get to the effort point when it comes to hunger. And that's the big problem. That's when, you know, most people over the years would come in and they're not eating all day. They got busy in life. kids work, school, and they started missing meals. And then what happens is you get to the evening time, you're so hungry, your willpower goes out the window. I don't care. Listen, if I did that. It's decision, we've talked about this before. So, you know, don't ever let yourself get to the
Starting point is 00:15:28 hunger at that point. Yeah. And that's, you know, the easiest way to break that is have consistent meals. Now, you're going to say, well, I'm busy. I got this going on. You almost have to plan. You know, you know, you're playing your day, have quick, fast little things that you could take with you, a protein shake, a protein bar, you know, it just have something on hand. So you, worst case, if it's something quick, it's something is better than nothing. Plus, metabolically, you know, a lot of people, I think over the years have fell into like intermittent fasting and they turned intermittent fasting into like, I'm not going to eat all day because that's what I'm already doing.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And then they crush food. And there's so many disadvantages to that. So, you know, I'm of the thought, like small frequent meals if you can, you know, just basic breakfast lunch. dinner, make sure you have a good high protein at breakfast, which will set your day to be in a good spot. Most people could at least someone get a breakfast going, you know, try to have something that if you're busy, have something quick, fast midday. But never let yourself get to the hunger effort point. Yeah. Is number one. You know, whether you're having carbohydrates or no carbohydrates,
Starting point is 00:16:30 you know, I think that for a lot of people, the more carbs you eat, you tend to want more carbohydrates. You know, to go back to what you were saying, too, is like, oh, you should, you got to have some carbohydrates, we could live without carbohydrates. I prefer like more ketogenic slash carnivore. I just think a lot of people, depend on your overall goal. If you're a high-level athlete, you probably need carbohydrates. But if you're an average person living, like probably one of the best things you can do is keep your carbohydrates low, your simple sugars low, you know, there's data after data
Starting point is 00:17:01 and studies that support that all day long. I wouldn't eat that way if I didn't feel that that was probably one of the best ways as far as keeping your overall carbohydrates simple. Now there's a time and a place where I love sprinkle them in, and we did it with you is even if you're going low carbohydrates, I am really big into bookend the workout time with some carbs so you could actually replenish and kind of support what you did in the gym. But outside of that, you could live without carbohydrates.
Starting point is 00:17:27 You can't live without certain things. Yeah. Well, you can. That's the thing, dude. And I think it's different probably for everybody, but I was thriving on that plan. Like I, dude, I felt very energetic. And, you know, it was high protein, high fats.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah. And it was just every morning I was just waking up leaner and leaner and leaner. And it's hard to just switch to your point and go all back in. So for me right now, like, you know, I did have some bread this morning and I had some eggs. You know, so for me, it's like super important to start going, okay, high protein, high protein the rest of the day to, to get back onto that track because, you know, all I know is
Starting point is 00:18:10 if I do it for like three days, I automatically tighten up now because there's that baseline. But for the man listening that doesn't have that baseline now, it takes, they need little, like, I always call it blowing up the balloon, right? Little pieces of motivation and drive
Starting point is 00:18:28 because we know motivation's going to fade and then the discipline and determination has to push you through. But like, I keep thinking back to one of the, I started. The hardest thing for me was to go to the gym looking and feeling the way I did. No one's looking at you. No one cares. Yeah. They have more important shit going on. Yeah. People have more. They're caught up in their own shit. Trust me. But like just going and doing it and not worrying about how you feel like the next day you're going to feel better. I don't know
Starting point is 00:18:54 where I'm going with this, but I just feel like those things need to be said because even though, I mean, I'm probably up 10, maybe 15. But if I go to the gym, I still feel strong. You know, like I feel much stronger. But at the same time, I still struggle with, man, I just don't look and feel the way I did. I have, you know, you see my point, right? It's like, I got to get back on track. Yeah, you know, kind of to touch on that, too, is one of the best antidepressants you could ever do is physical movement. And once again, like, it's funny how I see a lot of things now are coming to the market.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I mean, I've been in the space 25 years and more from a medical standpoint, 20 years. And like, but there is no better thing you could do for your mental health than just move. Even if it's something so simple as taking a walk for the day, don't tell me you don't feel better after you do it. So, you know, I think that's a thing, you know, I always said the four pillars, you know, when it comes to just overall, like, health across the board, your sleep, which is a game changer. If you could do it, I actually used to, that was one of the pillars I lacked on for years. just because I was grinding and I'm building businesses. And like looking back, I would have prioritized sleep better just because that's, you know, our body fixes the damage we caused during the day.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Hormones, everything are across the board. If you're sleeping like crap, your life's going to suck the next day on all levels. Your nutrition, eating a little better. I'm not saying eating chicken and broccoli, but like having, you know, a staple of protein with the meals, you could fill it with the macronutrients. Plus, if you do that, you have less of the other stuff you probably shouldn't have. You know, your nutrition obviously is a big one. I always say that's 80% when it comes to aesthetics or body composition.
Starting point is 00:20:42 You know, as far as physical movement, you know, that's going to be just getting active, three days a week. I mean, personally, I try to do something every day. Even if I don't have time, I'll try to do like a 10 minute, you know, like you could do burpees or something just to move. You'll feel better about the little bit of activity you did for the day. and then last is mental health, you know, and that's a big one that, you know, it depends on what you got going on in your life, previous, you know, situations in your life. But a lot of times if you get feeling better about you, yourself, your body composition, you're going to be okay. You know, and there's a lot of that, I think, weighs into a lot of the mental health side. Like you, we all have shit going on.
Starting point is 00:21:25 We all have crap in our life or things that have happened. but when you're not healthy, you're eating bad and you're not sleeping, it magnifies it. It's bad. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. And I don't think you've read the book. You may have, but Prof.G wrote this book, newer book called, excuse me, notes on being a man. And what he really talks about is, you know, his early stages of being a father of two boys and going through things.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And he just talks about how men these days in the way society is, it's men are not being, I don't want to misquote him, but it's hard. to be a man. Yeah. Right. And then when a man doesn't have relationship, like a woman can not have a relationship. Like he saw a clip with him talking on the view. Like he, a woman can have a cat and she's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:10 She's fine. She can go dive into the relationships with her friends, but a man needs a relationship because without relationship, men start turning to other vices like porn, being withdrawn on technology, diving into conspiracy theories. And we see that, you know, and that's never, it's never. good. What are your thoughts on, you know, how your business and your, your overall plans can help men with that problem? I, you know, I think it's one goes back to, you know, them from a system standpoint, you know, hormones being balanced. Just kind of doesn't let a lot of that other stuff compile. Having some, some discipline and what they do, have a support system behind.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I'm like, guys, we need positive reinforcement or positive affirmation. And, you know, I feel like if you don't have, you know, any type of like, whether it's a relationship with your buddy or your wife or a girlfriend or, you know, it's like we need kind of to have that positive, like interaction with people. And without it, like you said, like we tend to, we kind of go in our little hole. We kind of become a hermit. And next you know, you're addicted to other things or you're just your attention span goes to things that you probably shouldn't focus on.
Starting point is 00:23:24 So, you know, I feel like for us, it's, you know, know, we look at, it's going back to your self image and how you feel about yourself. And then ultimately, if you could get back to where you feel yourself, obviously hormone-wise, you feel like a man. You know, it sucks though because like a lot of times in the world we live today, they, you know, regular masculinity has been coined as toxic masculinity. Yes, let's go there. And so, you know, I think a lot of guys like a man's man's considered toxic now, which is so not.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Now you have the toxic masculinity, but it's not even close. what people coined toxic masculinity as today. So, you know, I kind of add that shirt, toxic masculinity. It's my favorite one, by the way. Yeah, I actually got a new one coming out. So I got you on that. So, you know, but it's hard because like, you know, guys of our past, you know, like back then, like they were the provider and the father and the husband and like, you know, just,
Starting point is 00:24:17 just overall were a good male. And now it's like, you know, you have women like coining that as toxic or groups coin in that as toxic. So it's just, you know, it's sad. But, you know, just getting us, ourselves back to just be in the provider and the leader and, you know, just, just. Well, he talks about that too. Yeah. He talks about that. Like it even goes into saying that, you know, since the 1980s, men through 20 years old to 24 year olds, unemployment and lack of, you know, college education has tripled. Yeah. It's tripled. And like, he also, goes in to say, and I want your, I want your take on this. If the man is not okay, the family
Starting point is 00:25:02 struggles. Oh, yeah. The kids are, I believe that. And like, I'm, I'm sorry. Like, when I struggle, it's not good for my wife. It's not good for my three beautiful children. Yep. I agree. 110%. You know, I feel like, you know, we're supposed to be kind of leading, providing, setting the example, you know, obviously father and our kids a certain way, you know, I feel like when guys are not even good themselves, they tend to not be in a good example for the kids or they just get less involved with the kids as a husband. I feel like once again, if they're turn into other things because they're, you know, self, how do you want to say it?
Starting point is 00:25:39 I don't know why I'm drawing a blink on it. Medicating or no, like, as far as like their personal self image, you know, and it's like now they're not being that, that husband and that man of the house to be able to lead the house and kind of keep things, you know, in check. Yeah. So it definitely compiles on the marriage and the kids. And it's just, but once again, it's, it goes back to the guy not feeling good about himself.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah. And you don't have to be, you know, sick pack abs and, you know, just crushing weights. And, you know, just, but, but I think, you know, getting back to the fundamentals of being a man and a father and a husband is almost a must. And if not, you definitely will, it's. probably going to end up in a broken marriage or a divorce. You're not going to have a good relationship with your kids because you put a lot of stuff on the back burner because you just don't, you end up not feeling good enough to do
Starting point is 00:26:34 the other stuff you should be doing. But I just, I'm glad we're talking about this because when I think of what he was saying about if the man's not okay, the family's not okay. And there's groups like you said that are that are really vocal in combating that. I don't need a man. I don't need a man to do this for me. I can do it myself, which they absolutely. Can't. I'm not saying that. But, you know, I think in a family environment, it is super important to get back to the roots of the family structure. And when I'm okay, I can handle extra activities. I can handle extra asks. When I'm not okay, I melt down. And sometimes the way you react to that. React is the right word.
Starting point is 00:27:14 To the wife or to the kids. Yeah. Yeah. And then that's just those are like little things that cause damage to that family environment. family relationship as you as you age um you know not for nothing man as a man if i'm not doing that stuff i feel less of a man you know and that compiles on you as far as you know like dude that's a great point because i've been really working on my training schedule i really don't want to go out 4 a.m. anymore because i don't have to yeah you know but i'm still caught in this weird quandary like if i don't go at 4 a.m or 5 a.m. or whatever it is i normally go your schedule takes over my schedule takes over or if I don't I guilt myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And then I'm like, okay, well, now I got to go and I got to fit in this workout, also get dinner prepped, also because we have my daughter's kid strong tonight that I know I'm going to all these things stack up. And it's just almost like, oh my God, it's really pointed like, dude, you're just not prepared right now. Yeah. This is all on you. And this is, I mean, that's probably a big problem why guys try to put an unrealistic plan
Starting point is 00:28:22 into their schedule. Mm-hmm. And then when they don't hit it, they almost beat themselves up. And that makes things worse. So, you know, I kind of what I talked to you about the other day is, like, I love catching up. And it's hard because I don't get to see a lot of clients after here, my friends. So we're going to, we're going to dive in a little bit deep.
Starting point is 00:28:37 But you kind of just, you need to look at your schedule. You need to see where, where it can happen and where it can't happen. And then you, once you know, like, all right, per two days a week or three days a week or five days a week, like where your gaps are that you know are going to be. pretty consistent because you should have somewhat consistency. Obviously with the family and kids, sometimes the kid stuff takes over. And so there's going to be times you have to drop. But figure what that basic looks like.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And then how can I optimize that basic time that I could put in and let it fit your time and your schedule? Like I do a lot of like circuit work. So my workouts are 25 minutes. You know, luckily I'd lately, I used to go at 4 a.m. And I, you know, over the last probably eight weeks, I started, I was still taking my son to the gym and working out with him and now I'm kind of at a point where he in yeah I don't want to push him because sometimes kids push back but I was like you know if you want I'll work out with you and you know
Starting point is 00:29:31 it's not as hard as I'd work out but I'm getting that family time that father son time but I'm also killing two birds with one stone so like now I have him working out with me we're kind of bonding and then doing our thing and and I'm able to make it fit versus getting up at 4 a.m. And then if I didn't get up because you know I and I have such a short period of time in the morning And then I'd beat myself up about not being able to go. And then I was taking him, but I still wasn't training. So, like, you know, just find what your schedule looks like. And it's going to be, it's going to move as you're going to be in a season right now.
Starting point is 00:30:03 You're, you're crushing it on the, on the, as a father, as a husband, as as Sean French, you know, it's like let's let's find out where it could always happen. Yeah. And we'll change that in a month. And so, yeah, it's, it's funny because like, I didn't mean I didn't interrupt, but like for me, I always go back to. I don't have to go at 5 in the morning, but it's probably best that I do because if I don't, the day takes over.
Starting point is 00:30:27 A phone call can happen. Something last minute that can frustrate me and then I'm stuck putting out of fire and then it's like, I don't have any, you know, what am I going to do? Lift for, you know, it's 15 minutes away. That's a half an hour out of my day.
Starting point is 00:30:42 So like there's a lot of games that I can play with myself later on in the day, whereas I really can't do that. I know if I go at 5, L.A. opens at five, I can live from five to five 45, be back at the house by six, and then I can help get the kids ready. And then I'm refreshed, right? But, you know, it's just getting back into that. I don't have to. I can technically go when I want, but is that going to serve me the best? And I think that's something for each individual. And I'm starting to understand that it actually might serve me
Starting point is 00:31:15 better because it's going to force me to eat better. It's going to force me to get good sleep. I'm up at four. I'm out the door by 4.45. And it's done. It is done. That's what I liked about it. But, you know, I've kind of, if it wasn't for my son, I would just, I would go early.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Because if not, my schedule is going to take over. Yeah. Plus, you kind of, there's something to be said, man, me going physically doing something in the morning, my day goes so much better. Oh, hell yeah. It does, dude. I crushed 10 times more things than I would do if I, just try to roll into a regular day.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah, you're productive. You're rolling, dude. One of the biggest things, you know, I want to get into is I think there was a big component of GOP ones in my treatment that were very, very successful. But I also want to touch on that because a lot of people think, okay, I'm just going to take these GOP ones, these Ozympics, it's those epitides, whatever it is. And that's it. What can happen to somebody if they just take it and they don't work out?
Starting point is 00:32:08 They don't eat well. What are some of the dangers? So I'll tell you, man, with GOP ones, it's crazy where that we're a lot. gone, you know, a big farmer brought that to the market. It was, you know, semi-glutide or Zempec or Wagoe was, you know, brought originally for type 2 diabetes. There's, JLP ones have been around forever. Like, yeah, way back in 2014, 15, Lyr glutide, duly glitide, there you could go back to
Starting point is 00:32:31 even further before that. They just not, not any one GLP had the results that OZempe did. And what happened? So Zempec, you know, came to the market. They were going through their 60-some-week trial and, you know, people, a loss of crap down away. I mean, it was crazy amount. So like they're looking at this like, holy cow, like, you know, what's going on here? Why is this one producing? Well, GLP1 slow down gastric emptying. So you, you know, you end up kind of food doesn't move through
Starting point is 00:32:58 your stomach as quick. So it does control your appetite. It occupies a GLP one receptors in brain. And there's a lot of studies even for like the addictive portion of your brain, what GLP ones can do. And they saw quite a bit of that with semi-glutide, which is those in Bick or Wagovi. We'll go to this class for weight loss. And that's kind of what, how they, after they saw, we were using it for diabetes, but now there's a market for weight loss. They just renamed it, right? But that GLP1 had such a pronounced effect on like gastric emptying, gastric slowdown.
Starting point is 00:33:30 People were not feeling as hungry. They were satiated early in a meal. And so a lot of those people lost a lot of weight. But the problem, and I always say with the GLP ones of poisons in the portion, because a lot of people have taken diabetic dosine and lost the crap ton of weight, but all they did different, it was basically they were on a starvation diet. It got them to the point where they didn't think about food. They didn't eat.
Starting point is 00:33:53 It just enabled them to starve. And, you know, hence the Ozempic face and the Oseptic butt, because it's muscle loss. It's not from that particular thing, but it allowed them to starve. And that starvation created those problems. And, you know, unfortunately, I'm having to clean it up now over the years because, you know, they progress from semaglutide to herzepidide, which is partially glp1 with the gastro inhibitory peptide, just helps the pancreas better.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And then you have, you know, soon to be out on the market stage two right now is red at true time. And a lot of people keep class in that as like it's going to be better. I'm actually going to do a breakdown video to show like it's not that it's better. Each one has their own little properties. And it depends on the person and how you apply it. Unfortunately, the world has just been taking diabetic dose.
Starting point is 00:34:40 one shot a week, scale it, double it after a month. And what's happened is people have starved a lot of weight off. And they're metabolically damaged, no different if they did it without a GLP. It just made it a lot easier for them to do that. And so they're malnourished. They lost a lot of muscle tissue, the metabolism's in the dirt. Now what happens when they stop taking it? What happens when they start eating food?
Starting point is 00:35:03 And I'm already seeing it. Like people are rebounding and gaining a lot of weight because they didn't focus on nutrition. They didn't have the foundation set right, nor even if they did, per the way they were dosed, they probably wouldn't have stuck. They would have just not ate. And so the poison is definitely in the portion with that.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I think they're amazing. So they are peptides. They're, you know, peptides are chains of aminos or sequence of aminos that initiate response in the body that happen that sometimes don't happen as we age, medical condition,
Starting point is 00:35:30 lifestyle. And so with a lot of those, you know, those peptides, it helps the pancreas. It helps carbohydrate metabolism because it was meant for diabetes and fixes A1C and insulin resistance. But by taking too much, a lot of people in the world have been able to just starve.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah. Yeah, done right, you know, and I'd like to think we probably have applied it the best way over the years. I mean, I used to dolyclotide and elyriclutide wasn't nowhere near close to, you know, semi-glutid or transepitide. But, you know, it does quiet the food noise drastically. It definitely kind of kills the addiction portion of the brain. And so like people that are having like addictions of certain things outside of just food get better. But it's allowed me to give people the dietary discipline to to a plan.
Starting point is 00:36:18 And ultimately the vehicle is going to be the food. It's forever going to be the food. If you think it's anything else, like you're going to be in a bad position. But it's allowed me to get people to actually adhere to a plan. And so we adjust it very specific to the person. But the poison is in the portion with that stuff. And I think that's why the world gravity. to it because I could take a shot and I'm not going to eat.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I'm not hungry. And I stopped doing all the stuff that was causing me be overweight, but, you know, taking too much or done wrong without the proper vehicle. You'll see some results. You're going to feel better, but you're going to probably have some issues. You know, I think. And I know you were asking, like, about the people just to go to that. Like, you should be screened.
Starting point is 00:36:58 You should make sure you don't have. There's certain things medically that you should be checked up. Now I'm seeing, like, you know, tany's salon selling semi-glutide. and it's all over the internet. It's wild, though. So just be cautious. You know, I think the biggest thing with that is the application has to be done a certain way. And if done right, I'm going to say this and I hate medication,
Starting point is 00:37:19 it's probably one of the most remarkable things for me to allow someone to stick to a plan. I've used over the years low dose phenermine and it would quiet the food noise and it would actually control their appetite. But this one's working so differently and you're fixing a lot of things like insulin resistance. you know, the, you know, metabolic, how things are processed, lipid metabolism. You know, it's allowed me to do things much, much faster and, and hopefully get people to that end goal and then teach them how to reverse out of that the right way. I just think, thank you for that. And then thank you for educating the audience, because for me, it was more about, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:57 really diving into how to properly utilize these in your plan, your day to day. because a lot of people are just taking that as the cure all shot, and they're not lifting. You said, ozimipates. They're, Zempeg but. You know, I think I have ozempic ass.
Starting point is 00:38:15 I call that nassadol. No acid. More squats. Yeah. But the thing is, like, it deteriorates your muscle. Because if you're starving,
Starting point is 00:38:25 your muscle's going to liquefy. It's gone. Yeah. Right. So you may be losing muscle, but it's, I mean, fat,
Starting point is 00:38:31 you're losing weight. Yeah. But you're skinny fat. at that point. So what's the difference? You're still not confident in a bathing suit on that vacation with your family. And that is a big part of men's mental health too is, and even women. And I want to touch on women real quick, but feeling confident, feeling lean, have good body
Starting point is 00:38:46 composition. What's the point of losing all the weight if you're losing your muscle too? Right. Something big happened recently. The FDA is removing all warning labels for women's hormone replacement therapy. What is that? What is your thought process on that? You know, I'm a proponent.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I love hormone therapy. for men or women when it's needed. Number two, done specifically. Guys are pretty simple. We can manage guys, manage the testosterone, manage the estrogen. We're simple more ways than what. Women are much more complicated with their stuff. And so, you know, I've seen the boom over the last probably five years in the space that
Starting point is 00:39:21 I'm in, you know, a lot of people are starting to offer female hormone therapy. And I think it's amazing, you know, usually women early in life, sometimes they need just little progesterone in the 40s, maybe some testosterone, progesterone after, you know, postmenopausal, probably all three with estrogen. But with that, you have to be super careful because you got to worry about cervical cancer, uterine cancer, breast cancer. And unfortunately, it's not just like a guy, like, take some tests and you're better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Like there's byproduct that needs to be managed. And if not managed right, it opens up the door to some issues. But that study, you know, I think a lot of females have been worried and most providers have put it out there over the years that, like, no, you don't want to touch hormones. because, you know, breast cancer, you know, ovarian cancer, there's so many issues linked with. It was one flawed study from a long time ago. You not managing your hormones is worse than you manage them and keeping them homeostatic. And so, you know, I think it's a step in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I still think for females, like, that's a special skill set. And it has to be super precise if you really want to get the good and mitigate some of the bad. That's something that, you know, females definitely make sure the providers well trained because, you know, there's, it's not just take this and here we go. It's take this and then other things adjust. So you need to treat it all the way down the line. So I do always put that caution there. Done wrong. Could create problems. Yeah. So, you know, I, but I, but I do think it's a step in the right direction. I think that, um, them removing that is, is, is great. Should have been a long time ago. Yeah. I mean, I'm seeing it all over the, the, the, you know, social media apps.
Starting point is 00:41:03 You know, people are speaking out about it saying, well, this is actually good. Like, this is going to help women. It's going to help, you know, postmenopausal. It's going to help a lot of different things. Whereas before it was kind of demonized for them, I believe. Yeah. No. So I think there was, once again, they put it as like, this is a big no-no.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Most providers would never even touch it. You know, even over the last, I would say five years, you know, if you got maybe your OBG, OBGYN, that would understand it and was willing to kind of go outside the normal box and start treating it. But no, like, you know, once again, it goes back to keeping yourself homeostatic for females when things are off. Especially just even at an early age, I see a lot of females like in their 30s, progesterone's off. They got anxiety. They're not sleeping as good. Testosterone, women need testosterone too, just for their drive, how they function, sex drive, mental clarity. Same things that we need testosterone for just making sure they don't need as much as we take.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Yeah, you don't want to do that. Yeah. So, and then estrogen, you know, I think that's a big one where a lot of people get scared because, like, you know, they're like, oh, you shouldn't take this because your estrogen's going to be off and that's going to create cervical cancer, uterine cancer, breast cancer. It's once again, not if you do or don't need it. It's what do you specifically need. And getting things, once again, homeostatic, that's the recipe for longevity and health. I agree with that because I can remember, you know, like even, you know, my wife would get blood work done and like, oh, no, you're fine. And she goes, well, I don't feel fine.
Starting point is 00:42:31 You know, so, like, there was a lot of providers that are like, I'm not treating you. Like, you're fine. Your blood works great. She goes, why am I so tired? Why am I going through this? Why am I going through that? You know, and it's like, like, listen, women need the homeostasis too. They need to be treated.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yeah. No, I say that's the biggest anchor. Guys, women or men, no different. If hormones are off, it's probably the biggest anchor in the water to see how you feel, how you function, how you sleep, the results that you get. So, you know, I think it's nice. that there's people are starting to pay attention. You know, it sucks because a lot of the providers were never taught that. They got a small little bit of endocrinology in college.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And then whatever their specialty was, they just kind of stayed in that path. And then even endocrinology, you have a lot of them that understand it, did it, but they were not taught that's treated specifically. And so, or a lot of times insurance won't cover it. They won't touch it. I mean, for a guy, if you come in and you're at $299 on your testoster and and just, we'll just use a reference range of class. If it goes 250, 1100's normal, they're going to look at you like, Sean, you're fine.
Starting point is 00:43:39 You're okay. You're normal. But that's not normal. Yeah. They did that to me. I mean, like my internal medicine doctor is like, oh, you're at 250. You're fine. I'm like, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah. Like, is this good? And you're like, bro, get in. I see it all the time. But unfortunately, like with insurance, they're not going to touch it unless you're clinically deficient. Well, you were having symptoms and issues well before you were clinically deficient most guys i'll tell you i very rarely do i see guys in that are like sub 250 on a tesasotro
Starting point is 00:44:07 but it's you know there's kind of certain markers where you could tell like this guy's probably and it's not always just a lot of guys think with test asher on it's sex my sex driver my erectile function like that's such a small piece it's it's it's your mental clarity your motivation you know just at your sleep everything it literally is is once again it's this thing it's you know we're kind of like a old school wood wagon wheel. And if one piece along that wheel is chipped, we're riding like shit. And so it's like, you know, making sure you're kind of even in that wheel out across the board, not just test sawyer owner, not just growth hormone peptides or not just
Starting point is 00:44:46 sleep. It's kind of like a, it's a complete wheel, a complete circle. I had my buddy on, and I'm going to say it because like we talked about on my show so I know it's safe. Larry Hagner, Dad Edge Podcast. Awesome, dude, man. like amazing fatherhood platform. And he sat in that seat last week.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And he talked about his doctor calling him and said, you need to get in and your blood work came in. We need to talk. He was scared. He's like, what the heck? He goes, your testosterone level's way too high.
Starting point is 00:45:15 He goes, what is it? He goes, it's 900. And he's 50. He goes, are you doing TRT? You need to stop. He goes, I've never taken TRT. So even doctors nowadays,
Starting point is 00:45:25 get blood work from a man. And if there are testosterone levels at 900, are saying that's not good, right? Like, we got to screen, we got to, we got to check you for cancer. It's like, what? It's like, dude. Yeah, well, you know, and it's, unfortunately, they, you know, a lot of times they don't even look at symptoms or like, per this, you know, how do I fix
Starting point is 00:45:44 this or how do I put a medication on this versus like going to the route and working backwards? But, you know, I always look at it as like, what is optimized? What is, what is ideal? You have normal markers, but where should it be? where are you going to feel your best? Where can I get you to be your best without creating other problems as well? And so, but most weren't, aren't trained that way.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yeah. I mean, shit, I wish I had an addy, you know, $9.50, 900. That'd be sweet. That'd be sweet. I messed mine up a long time ago. But that's the thing. For his range, though,
Starting point is 00:46:15 or for his age, I mean, that's probably per whatever lab, it probably came up high. And yeah, it's still okay. If prostate's not, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:23 you're not having issues. There's no, you know, he's doing his annual prostate. process exam, PSA is normal. If you're not seeing like crazy stuff happening like blood thickness and blood volume, but once again, they don't, there's, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:46:35 what's going on? To me, that's a win. I was like, damn, 900? I'm like, natural. That's great, man. Thanks for coming on, dude. It's been awesome having this conversation with you. I look forward to
Starting point is 00:46:46 continuing my journey with you guys and, you know, getting you to stay on my ass to turn into that three point out. Well, I think we'll regroup this week. We need to. Yeah, you need to. Well, no, listen, you need to do that. You're like, I'm going to make you do that.
Starting point is 00:47:01 So it's just whether you want to, like, I'll still message you. But no, like, it's let's just, you know, and I think a lot of guys don't reach out and they just, they don't ask for the help or they don't, they think it's fine and I'll deal with it and I'll push through it and I'm fine. But ultimately, it's not fine. Yeah. So, like, but I try to simplify it. Let's, let's break it down and let's just make it fit. so it's consistent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I will say this, dude. I had somebody comment on one of my YouTube videos, man. And this is kind of crazy. I never heard this before. But they said, looking at you, you look like just a normal gym bro with all the muscles.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Then you opened your mouth and I realized how smart you were. It's like, I've never had that before. I'm like, wow. Like at first I was offended. Then I was like, wow,
Starting point is 00:47:48 that's kind of a cool compliment, right? I'm like, does that what people perceive me as? And for the guy struggling, that's what I also want to bring it out to. Like, right now I'm not feeling my, them my best, but there's probably a lot of people looking at me and going like, dude, you look good.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And you're the goal. You're somebody's goal, guys. You know what I mean? And what you have to understand is what matters is how you feel and what you can do to move yourself forward every single day. You need people in your life like Jeff that are going to help hold you accountable, know what you're capable of and strategically get you there. Right?
Starting point is 00:48:18 But also with some damn empathy because like I'd never felt out of place at any, either one of your clinics. I'd never felt like I was being judged by anybody. but it was always like this. Every time I would come in, it was like, damn, like, you even look different than you did last week. Like, what's going on? This is fantastic. It's a community.
Starting point is 00:48:36 So for those of you that are, you know, listening to this show, man, throw a Google search, T-clinics, man. Like, check out my boy. They do, you do ship across the United States, right? Yeah, so I have certain clinics that are set up for out-of-state. You know, that's kind of been a big thing over the years. There's a lot of telemedicine places. You know, I think we still try to go specific to the person, which a lot of them are just mills. But going back to what you said, just real quick, I want to highlight on that.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Like, you know, comparison will crush your happiness and run your own race. Yeah. Let's set goals per you. And let's tackle those goals. And let's stack wins. And ultimately, you'll be surprised when you look back. It's just, you know, I think a lot of people just in the world we live, listen, I do it with like social. media and you see other businesses and once I stop trying to compare myself to somebody else
Starting point is 00:49:31 and I'm just going to run my race and you know what happens happens I that was like a big thing for me too and I know we're running short on time but like I think I set my goal a little bit too egregiously your expectations were high so high dude like I mean listen it's nice to have those be had goals right big hairy audacious goals but you got to set I'm a big into like let's small many goals and if we start crushing those mini goals like said they it almost gets contagious and it compiles over time it's like just if you said it one big ass goal it's you're you're probably just might as well give up now well that's what was happening because like you were measuring me on a caliper at seven yeah and then i would go to the dexas and have my world freaking crushed and so like
Starting point is 00:50:19 that's one thing that i need help with you on i want i want you to help me reestablish a goal on a dexa Maybe it's 18, maybe it's 15. Well, in Dex, you got to remember, Dex is always going to be to a decimal point. Everything like, you know, I'll tell people out there is like, your measuring tool should just be a tool to track progress. Please just let it be a tool to track progress. You know, one of the most accurate would be a Dexter scheme.
Starting point is 00:50:41 But whether you're using an impedance, a four point impedance, a two point impedance, a caliper. Caliper's only pinch and subcue and depend on where you hold it. It's going to read different. So I always say that's not like the end-all be-all metric unless you are doing a Dexa. So Dexa, like if you're going to do a Dexa, that's probably the best and work off that for a goal.
Starting point is 00:51:00 But I think the world has been, especially with Deca, Dexa, a lot of people like, oh, I'm like 6% and you're, no, you're not. No, you're not. You're 12 on a DeXA. Yeah, right now I'm probably about a 12 on DeXA. Because last time I heard you were maybe like a 10 or 11.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah, I think the lowest I got, no, I did do a Dexa a couple years back before I got my own DeXA, old machine not kept up to date, had me at like a 5.1. I'm like, there's no way in how I was probably on my decks. I was probably maybe nine and that was pretty lean. Yeah. But I was also like my life was very, there was no balance.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Right. Yeah, exactly. There's no balance in that. And that's the thing like this time around like I'm really going to need your support with. It's like what's the right goal, right? Like what how do we manage that? Because I am the way I am.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Like I'm not going to come off of certain. big hairy-ass goals like you're talking about, but it's like really managing it to the point because I think that's where I fell off. It was like, okay, like, I'm never going to get the 12% on a DeXA. I'm just, I'm done worrying about it. I'm never doing one of these again.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And in the meanwhile, meanwhile, I'm wearing a large shirt and I still am, but I had train tracks running up and down my arm. I was vascular and I'm pissed about a Dexa where you're, you know, and you're one of the most, most skill because people say like calipers you got to watch out for you know because there's a lot of margin error I'm like not with this guy like like every time we were doing it you had to like hold on
Starting point is 00:52:32 let me pinch again but I remember I would tell you too like per this percentage if you take it to a dexia you're going to probably the leaner you are there's less variance from a caliber to a dexter the large you are especially depending on the calipers the sites like I do a nine site when we do we do one but there's a lot of room for error on that but also once you get that caliper that's not your true body. Right. Like usually I would say even on a low low end, you might add five or six percent to correlate it over to a Dexia.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah. So like when you're like three, four on a on a caliber, you know, and that's like super lean. Nobody should get there unless you're like, that's all you do on a day to day. Exactly. Yeah. But, you know, like take me a three. You'll probably be at eight, nine, right?
Starting point is 00:53:15 But as you get larger, that might be a seven, eight, nine, ten from a caliper to Dexon. It was a larger variance, right? because I was a seven and I think of the last one. It depends on where you hold it. Yeah. If I'm pinching you in areas that you don't hold a lot of body fat, only a couple of them came up.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Yeah. I could take the next guy who may be fat or another areas that aren't getting calipered and he's going to caliper much, much lower. So or caliper much, much higher and look completely different. So once again, it's a measuring tool. No matter what tool you use, stay consistent with it and use that just as a gauge. Yeah. But don't sit there and let that affect how you go about your goals.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I always look as like, let's look for the winds and my building muscle and my dropping body fat and whatever device or tool we're going to use, let's stay consistent and work off that. Yeah, that's a good point, man. Well, thank you. We'll get this train back rolling. For everybody, check out my boy, Jeff, T-Clinics,
Starting point is 00:54:11 new Viva way loss. If you have any questions on how to optimize your hormones or even be home with your hormones, drop them a phone call. And until next time, guys, stay determined.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.