Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - Jamie Kennedy's Unfiltered Hustle

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

From Scream to Malibu’s Most Wanted to stealing the mic on the stand-up stage — Jamie Kennedy brings decades of hustle, heart, and heat to The Determined Society. In this episode, Shawn French goes deep with Jamie on the highs, lows, and straight-up weirdness of surviving Hollywood while staying true to your voice. They talk fame, cancel culture, faith, and why Jamie still grinds harder than most influencers half his age. It’s real, raw, and exactly what you didn’t know you needed. Whether you grew up quoting B-Rad or just caught him in his newest stand-up set, this episode pulls back the curtain on a man who's been in the game — and never stopped playing it his way. Topics Include:- Staying relevant through reinvention- Comedy under pressure and PC culture- The Malibu’s Most Wanted legacy- Fame, failure, and not giving a f*** Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Message privately with everyone. Learn more at WhatsApp.com. If you're woke, take an ambient. Like, that's our job to test things and it may go over a boundary you don't like. The most inclusive people are the most exclusive. You're canceled. You're a fucking carbon-based life form, but you know what? You said some shit.

You're done. What? How the fuck am I going to eat? Fuck you. They don't care. You know what I mean? Here's a fucking, you know what I mean? And you wonder.

And they're going to fuck with us? I'm sorry, I'm a little heated right now. I like it. No, they're going to fuck with us. Yeah. We're ready to go. We know what color our hair is. You know what I'm saying?

Exactly. Exactly. It's too much. You can say whatever you want. Shit, you can punch me in the face, but cancel me. Jamie Kennedy. What's up? Man, welcome, brother.

How are you, dude? I'm jacked up. I'm happy to see you. Good to see you too, man. Thank you for, you did something. He did something. He came out on the street. He's got a lot of people here.

He came on the street to meet me on my city, which I've been on this block one billion times. No one ever comes to this site. This is where they sell meth. Oh, really? So you're, they redid this. This is a good side of the block because they've gentrified it. That's the side where we do.

This is a show you, our world is so different. ADR, looping, cartoons, cartoon auditions. All those three buildings are all on that side, and that's what they do for decades. Oh, wow. And now this side is now on the podcast side. That's awesome. So it's crazy. It's taken a great turn then.

Yeah, it's good. It's good. I've actually had two girlfriends live in two different parts of the street. This is a lot. At the same time? I'd like that, but not. No. Yeah.

No. No. It could be too much, right? It could be a lot. It could be a lot to deal with. It could be a lot to deal with, man. One's enough. Yes.

One's enough. Yes. Dude, you have such an amazing story. Man, when I, you've, you've come out with stuff recently. It talked about your journey out to L.A. Mm-hmm. And, you know, typically, you know, when you are a kid and you have these big dreams, you know, a lot of times teachers can really put you in your place to be like, hey, that's not for you.

You need to go to college. You need to get, you. your degree, you need to go and get a job and be professional. And your teacher did what for you? You know, I pre-I know what you're referring to as my Instagram post is I've had multiple teachers, but one teacher in particular, I was graduating high school. I knew since I was about 15 years old that I wanted to do something in Hollywood. I didn't even know if it was acting or whatever. I just knew I wanted to be in Hollywood. And my mom wanted me, I wanted to be. I wanted to to quit high school, my mom wouldn't let me. I'm not going to use any of this shit.

Yeah. So she's like, no, you have to graduate. So I graduated and she's like, just figure out what you want to do. So I worked at Domino's Pizza and I got a lot of shifts and I made a little bit of money. And I took a local acting class. And the teacher was like, you know, I did really well. I've never done anything like that. And the great thing about the class was just older, younger, black, white, Asian, gay, straight, you know, emo, jock, preppy. It was like 25 of us, but all different walks of life. And my teacher said that you should go to L.A. at the end of the class. And I said, what? And I go, I go and do what? She goes, just go. And I go, what do you mean? She was, just go, take a plane, get off the

plane, and just follow your dreams. And I go, but I don't know what I'm doing or what I start. And she goes, you'll figure it out. Yeah, yeah. She goes, you're 18 years old. She goes, go. And I really look at her. Her name is Teresa Donahue. I don't know where she's at.

If she sees this, I thank you, and I love you. And it was an angel. That was an angel moment. That was a divine intervention. And that was like the passion, she was such a good actress. And it was just so bizarre. And people in the class were like, we agree. And so I, you know, there was not a lot of things in life I was encouraged with.

I was the youngest kid. and Catholic school and all this stuff. And I had a great life. But, you know, you're always to run to the litter. If you're disruptive in class, you're a problem instead of encouraged. Right, exactly. But I was funny. Like, I made people laugh.

But never, ever was that encouraged until that. And then, boom. And then when I came out to L.A., I tell everyone that everything that you are criticized for in society, no bad boo, L.A. celebrates it. That's interesting, man. That's interesting because, you know, everybody has that one person that sees you for who you are. There could be multiple people, right? They're going to have more people telling you that you can't do something.

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And I think one of the biggest things, man, like when you come out here, you're 18, dude, 18 in L.A.? Like, bro, right? From Philly, like, you don't have a place to live

probably at that point. You got to figure it all when you get here. Yeah, everything. I didn't know what it was like to live by myself or I lived with my friend. I had a friend

who should come out with me for a little while. But, yeah, I didn't know anything about getting an apartment. I didn't know it was like to pay rent. I didn't know anything. But it was a different time.

Yeah. I mean, this is the 80s. This is like VCRs were just really becoming all the rage. Yeah, those were badass. You know? So it's like, it was a little crazy because I came out right at the height of freeway shootings and that was like, you know, the scariest thing. But it's a place of dreams, you know.

It's where modern society has been, you could argue, created through images and film and song that we've kind of shaped ourselves who we are through this, you know, model of a picture of what we want to be, what we don't want to be, et cetera. It all came out of here. How long was it before you found your footing, right? Like, you hear it because the first was the Malibu Most Wanted wasn't your first thing you did. No, God, no. Yeah. So like, how long did it take you to kind of be like, okay, I'm on the right path here. I've got some shit going on and I'm going to be able to do this.

It took a while, you know. I tell everyone I struggled for three, I mean, four and a half years, maybe five years. After five years, I never struggled again. Wow. I mean, I had their struggle. in my life, but they weren't like I was able to get into something and never really look back. But it felt like, you know, 15 years. I bet.

But, you know, I watched actors. I'm not going to name names who I thought were making a living and they were celebrated. I'm like, that person's not that good. But they're learning as they're getting paid. And I'm like, I just have to figure that out. What's the lowest barrier to entry? But in the beginning, I knew nothing. I didn't you're talking about a person that never lived on their own never really had you know that many girlfriends never had I had jobs but a job that I had to like live on

I took a lot of public transportation I didn't drive much so I didn't know anything and so I had to get the bottom of the barrel not that they're bottom of a bare place but I literally started like food restaurants I got yeah red lobster which is very good to me and catering and it's even competitive there. And then so it took me a long time. I didn't know what a headshot was. I didn't know what a resume was. I didn't know the hustle of, you know, lying about saying you did this when you didn't. I didn't know what a student film was. I didn't know anything, anything. But I just knew that this was the place to do it. You know, it's interesting because you're talking about that lowest barrier of entry, right? So when everybody starts in the industry, and I can relate because you said five years felt like 15, you know, this show. took about three and a half maybe really even shit i mean let's call it borderline four years

before it exploded and we've just surpassed four and a half years so to give you that and that seemed like a freaking decade wow the pain the solitude at times right and i'm in my 40s you know and i have a wife and three children but coming out as an 18 year old and having to deal with that i'm like i don't know what a resume is i don't know what any of this shit is and you you had to figure it out on your own. What was the, what, at the very beginning, right, was there ever a moment where you're,

you're trying to get in, whether there was an audition or something, and you, and you quickly found out like, oh shit, it's not, you know, all rainbows here. Like,

this is going to be, this is going to be a little bit of pain to go through to get what I want. Multiple times. I can give you one really specific, but before, before I do that, is that I tell anyone to be successful,

let's say, but I'll just use comedian because I'm that and an actor. But let's just say comedian. To be a successful comedian is you have to be three parts. You have to have the ego that you are the person standing in a room full of people and that the ego has to be so big that you feel that you deserve to be listened to. Okay. But you have to have that much insecurity that you need their approval with a healthy dose of delusion.

And so those three things. And the fourth thing is, is potentially nothing really to fall back on. No plan B. Well, yeah, you're literally living your plan because there is nothing else. Like, people that say, I wanted to try comedy because I thought it was funny. My office thinks I'm funny. No, that's not what comedy is. Comedy is your last decision before you plunge a needle in your arm.

Now, that sounds dramatic, but the great ones are. And it's like, you know, Sam Kinnison, he didn't have a lot of choices. Richard Pryor did not have George Carlin. I mean, you know, Bill Burr, these people came from hardened circumstances. And that's why they've resonated for decades. And yes, you can be a successful comedian that's had a nice upbringing. But we all have pain. You don't have to have the worst.

So that's the philosophy. The second one is I was living in Korea town right before the riots. Sound familiar? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I had a car. I was paying off a car, a very cheap car. So I got it from like a friend.

They never let me pay like $100 a month. I was working as a clown for a service where I was a party clown. No shit. Yeah, I was doing that. And I was catering. I had left all my stuff in my car, my clown stuff, my license. I put it in the glove compartment, all this stuff. I came out one morning.

I was living in an offside room of my buddy who I rented from. My car had been broken into. There was human feces all in the car. All my clown stuff was stolen. My wallet was stolen. My watch was gone. And the car was being towed. I came out and I looked at it as I saw all that and ended being towed.

So I parked it in the wrong spot. Didn't realize it was going to get towed. And it was broken into. I got shit in too. She's like I saw the shit. It was insane. Human shit. And someone who steals the fucking clown suit.

I know. So there's some encampment back then that you're walking around with bozo shoes. So, and a nose. So I was completely broke. I had nothing. I went into my place. I literally had like ketchup and a loaf of bread. And I just started crying.

And it was like in 1992. And I'm like, I don't know how I'm going to get my car. How am I going to get anything? And luckily I had people that were, did okay. And they, I like begged them. I said, can you just let me money to get this? And I'll pay you. Here's the payment plan.

And I had a couple of angels. And they paid me some money. I was able to get the car out and stuff like that. But that was a great turning point of just how hard it is when you're broke. I can't imagine what people are going through now because it's back then rents for 600 bucks. So, you know what I mean? I don't know how much the wages have come up in 30 years. But at least I could worm my way out of the hole eventually.

So there's just many times I've had that. It's not one break. It's a series of many things. Yeah. That's an interesting point, dude, because like that moment with the car and everything that went on with it, dude, like that would shut a lot of people down and be like, you know what, I'm going home, I'm going home, but takes a special person to sit there and say, you know what, I made my decision.

There's no plan B, right? There's like, there's zero plan. This is what it's going to be and this is what it's going to work out, right? And you've done that. I mean, look what you've created in your career, man. Yeah, I would tell people, though, that it's really simple. There is no choosing it. It chooses you.

If you go to bed at night and you're obsessed with, let's just say, the business, let's just say comedy and you can't stop thinking about, I need to be on stage, even if you bombed, I need to write a joke, I have something funny to express. If you cannot take a step forward without thinking of that, then you won't do it. it. The same with acting. If you need to be an actor, you need to be in a movie, I got to see myself a man's Chinese. I got to see myself at Westwood. I got to see myself on TV. If it's

not there, you're not going to do it. I don't have, you don't have a girlfriend. You don't go see, you know, for holidays. You don't do it because you're obsessed. And that's, that, that's it. That's what I tell people. The whole world and the business has changed forever, but that's, it wasn't me choosing that. I was like obsessed. And people will tell you that. It's, it's, uh, it's funny because when I stumbled into this, I literally accidentally started a podcast. It was start off as a motivational page, like just me messing around trying to help people. And then I'm like, oh shit, it shows me. I'm driving down the road one day. I'm like, I feel led. I need to start a podcast. But I obsess to a point where my wife said to me one time,

she was, this is all we fucking talk about. Like, you, and I'm like, I understand, but like, you know, I understand, but you don't understand because like this is what I'm, this is what's going to happen. This is how the next two years are going to go. And then the next year after that, the next year after that. And it was, it was so intentional for me that I was willing to go through all the shit, all the silence, all the laughs from the freaking peanut gallery to, to a point where I'm sitting here with you right now with an amazing team supporting me and going on this journey with me. Like, what's the penit gallery?

I just like idiots just talking, right? Oh, online? That's a bait. No, not online. Just like, you know, you have friends like, hey, man, you see what a fucking idiot, man. They're not your friends. No, they're not, right? And to your point, right? And we don't, we don't have any interaction with them anymore.

But, but, like, those were the moments that I'm sitting here listening to what you're saying is like, oh shit. Like, I tried to walk from this before. But it kept, it grabbed me. Like, no, dude, you ain't going anywhere. This is what you're doing. This is your purpose. You get to do this. Yeah, and it's really about if you do what you love, money will follow.

Like, I would not tell one person get in the entertainment business to make money. It's like, I mean, you can. Yeah, yeah. But you got to go through a lot of things. And it does it. And there's absolutely no guarantees. I think we've been set up. The world conned us because they set us up with this thing of guarantees.

There's no guarantee. Right. Fucking people pay a quarter of a million dollars to go to college and hope to get a job. That is fucking dumb. Okay, unless you're getting a kissed in from a white collar, Ivy League school, there's about 15 schools that matter.

The rest are a keg party. That's blunt truth. You know what I'm saying? Dude. You know, basically OnlyFans is a major minor at FSU. Rince takes your launch. and hand delivers it to your door, expertly cleaned and folded.

So you could take the time once spent folding and sorting and waiting to finally pursue a whole new version of you. Like tea time you. Mmm. Or this tea time you. Or even this tea time you. Said you hear about Dave? Or even tea time, tea time, tea time you.

Mmm. So update on Dave. It's up to you. We'll take the laundry. Rinse. It's time to be great. AS YouTube, right there. I'm saying, you know what I'm saying?

But you're telling the truth, though, right? Yeah, and it's like, come on, man. This is like, I'm going to go to college and get a degree. For what? What are you going to do with it? Yeah, right now. So when people, and you don't need a degree in our business. And people want guarantees.

It's just a different world. And the problem is, I call it the traditional industrial complex, meaning families, communities, they put all this bullshit. shit on their children to do this and to follow in this, not knowing that the world is fucking changing every 10 minutes. What do you think it comes from though? Where does that come from? Yeah, because it's come from somewhere, right?

Was it the Great Depression? Well, for me, yeah, my parents were, they were born during the Great Depression. So that's a different thing. And I understood it. I was born far enough down the line that things were changing and they were so tired. that even though they resisted certain things with me, they also just were like, okay, let him do what he does. He's a little cray-cray.

Yeah. But every, you know, there's that. There's boomers. There's my generation, which is Gen X, which is, you know, we were let outside. And your mom was like, go out. So you go out and we're going to go play. And then you come home at midnight and your mom was like, why are you back so early? Midnight?

Exactly. You guys play till midnight? No, no, it's like, they didn't want you, they wanted to do their own thing, and your mom's smoking a cigarette on the porch, she blows it in your face. Okay, that was just, there was another vitamin. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was, and I'm not, and we have our own thing. Millennials have their own thing, and they've been screwed in a lot of ways.

And Gen C literally thinks they can identify as a beach ball. So you have many. Or a litter box. Yeah, so every generation has its different things. but the traditions I see with people, they have to understand that the world's changing. And for me, people say, well, I'm an old man in certain ways I say

because I believe in common sense. Yeah, how dare you, right? But, and they confuse that with identity, and that's a whole other podcast. But the world's technology is what people have to understand what's changing, technology and how that's the biggest disruptor on our in our planet.

Absolutely. And so, I mean, just yesterday, the Robotaxie was, I mean, I've been taking Waymos for a little while, but the Robo Taxi was a big thing on X. Okay. I didn't see that. Well, it was the first one in Austin yesterday. But the difference is that you can buy a Tesla,

turn it into a Robo Taxi, and basically it's like you're moving Airbnb. So will you let your car be a taxi if you don't have to work? And so these are the type of technopause. So if I'm a kid and I'm in high school, if I'm old enough, I want to get my dad to help me buy a robo taxi so I can make money while I'm in high school. You know what I'm saying? So there's a lot of little hustles here. Right.

In many ways, you can stream. You can video game. You can, you know, people sell products drop shipping. There's a billion ways. Yeah. So it's a different world. I think the smartest minds will figure it out, but AI is going to do a lot. And it already is, too.

We have to figure that out. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting because you brought up the whole degree thing, right? You know, I went to college. Where'd you go? I went to Louisiana State. So we want to talk about a keg party.

LSU? I played baseball there. LSU. Yeah. So that's what you would say. Excuse me because I never heard that. Like they used LSU. Yeah.

It's LSU. So you went to LSU, which sounds like an amazing school for parties. Fuck it. And baseball. So that's their football too. Well, so traditionally it's baseball.

What did you play? I was a catcher. Wow. Yeah. So, I mean, if it wasn't for baseball, I wouldn't have gone to college. Like, I had no shot. I was a C-minus student at fucking best.

Did you go all four years? So I did Jucco for two years and then I finished up at LSU. Went to the College World Series in 2003. It was awesome. It was awesome. And then did you go out to the farms? No. No, I got hurt.

Okay. So, but here's the thing. My degree? useless. Yeah, but you're a special case because it was all about your arm. Yeah, it was all about my arm. It was all about the experience and, you know, the getting to, do at the time was what I

wanted to do. I wanted to play professional. But Boosters probably said, I liked this kid and hooked you up with a job. No, can't do that. Dude, I got suspended. I got suspended for a whole week. Listen to this shit. Well, don't sell dime bags. I'm trying not to. That would have been arrested. No selling dime bags. Okay. In New Orleans? That's arrested? Well, that's Baton Rouge. That's fucking T.

I know, man. In 03? Probably. It's like oregano. Just scribble that shit on top and you're good. But I, but yeah, dude, I got suspended for working a baseball camp at my coach's facility. He asked me to work. Hey, Sean, you come work. I'll pay you 50 bucks. Then they get called into compliance like two weeks later. Hey, do you work at so-and-so's camp? I go, I sure did. Do you make money? You go, yeah, I made 50 bucks. They suspended me. So no, back then you couldn't do any of that. And now, NIL. Oh, holy shit.

Dude, there's some serious contracts. Serious contracts. I can't believe it. So, but then you had to figure it out. Had to figure it out. And, you know, that was also also very risky, right? Going to play college baseball and you know i i started in life a lot later but what i truly believe is did it teach me something the baseball end of it yes it truly did teamwork collaboration taking care of myself you know seeing a goal and fucking going for it and not listening to the outside noise that was very impactful for me also you know getting through school taught me the the really the only thing I remember I called college, Amy, outside of the parties and the fun that I had. Okay? Maybe a gymnast here and there. But I had a big thing there too. Dude. Dude. So the thing that I remember

was I have to do this so I can do that. And sometimes you have to do certain things you don't want to do to do the thing that you love. Yeah, you know the saying. Yeah. You choose the hard road for an easy life, baby. For an easy road. Yeah. Choose the easy road for a hard. like. Exactly. You know. So they just attended our tech talk. Weak men make hard times. Hard times make strong men. Strong men. Yeah, so all the good ones.

You know, and the audience is here for it, right? Because they resonate with this stuff. But dude, man, you, you're one of the funniest sons of bitches I think I've, you know, ever got the pleasure to meet. Thank you. And watch you over the years, you know, from the scream, the scream movies to to your hidden TV show to all the stuff you do with Malibus wanted. I just, I love the way your mind works, man.

And I watched something recently. You know, my partner Pat sent it to me and I'd already seen it. It was the recent clip that you shared about the volleyball, at the volleyball game at the beach where, oh, dude. That was a prank clip. Yes.

I know. I know. It was fucking hilarious. You liked that one. I did like that. Yes. I did like that. I actually secretly thought, I'm like, how come I never got to experience, you know, going to a function in, like, you know, everybody being naked?

So I explain to the crowd what it is? Yeah, please. It was, did a prank on my show, The Experiment. And, you know, we did, I always say it was more than pranks. It was like psychological tests, see how far. So we had these actresses who were always so good. We had about three blondes. and I say that because just blonde girl actresses really are committed.

These girls were incredible. And they're because they're doing real people into a prank so that people don't know they're going to be a prank. And so this girl met a guy through some dating thing and said, I want to come on a date and meet my family. That was the setup. And so she brings them on and her family is nudist. So it was me, another actress who was my mom.

her mom who's topless and our grandmom who's topless and we're all in Speedos and we shot it in Miami. We did two weeks of pranks in Miami and the guy was like, this was your family. So it was all about like will this guy blend in with the nudist? Yeah. When the mom hugs him with a, I mean, these women all hugged this guy, this actor. You want to talk about like how they say like an intimacy coordinator? This is 2003. They were hugging him.

and brush it up against them, and they're pretty naked. Yeah. And this is for the WB. And I'm like, that was normal. Yeah. And I'm like, what we have now is like, the fucking fun bus is left. It's gone, dude. I mean, we never think about it.

The actresses were like, yeah, I got to get him to believe it. So I'll do it. And he wasn't mad. He signed his life away because he, you know, I mean, he got a nice massage. It was, yeah. So it was all commissioned by the WB. Yeah. So think about that now, how fucking everyone's like,

you can't just rub your breastuses against an unsuspecting man. Isn't this sad? Sad society. It is. It's gone down to shitter, man. But it was fun to do that. So we would do a lot of stuff like that. And basically we learned that people will do anything to get with women,

do anything to make money. But they're not bad people. Yeah. What was your favorite experiment that you did? It's hard to say. A lot of them would people be mad at now. But they wouldn't be mad at them. The same audience.

I always tell people this. The same audience is going to laugh at it and the same audience can be mad at it. The difference is the people that were mad, I could never see they were mad because they didn't have in social media. Exactly. One of my favorite one was,

I think this was a pretty fun one. I had different ones. There's iconic ones. But I was at the Palms and the Maloof family at the time. If you know who the Maloof are, they owned. Oh, they owned a lot of Coors beer. Okay. They own the Palms Hotel.

Okay. And they own the Sacramento Kings. Oh, shit. So do you remember when the Lakers and the Kings were always having those battles? Tim Hardaway was in Sacramento. Yeah, yeah. And so we did a joke on Mike Bibby. Shout out Mike, a legend.

U.S.C. Baller legend. Oh, yeah, man. His father, I think is Lonbibbibby. His name is. But legendary Sacramento King, legendary NBA player. And we did a joke, and I was an asshole gambler. And I was trying to bait him in the, gambling big.

And then I beat him. And I said, I got a 21 and he had a 20. And they were two-faced cards. And I say, Shaq and Kobe always beat two kings. You know, and he like,

you know, and all this. I mean, this was at the heart of the early aughts. Yeah. King, Kobe. So, and he was a great sport about it. But what's great was, we branded, like, three things. It was like, Coors beer in it. Mm-hmm. It was funny.

We had a NBA superstar. Was at the Palms? The real world was shooting over here. We were shooting over there. It was at early MTVWB days. Yeah, that's badass. Party at night. You know, it was just fun, dude.

Like, Maxim parties and, like, things that are like, they happen now, but everyone's such a thing. There's Jamie's passed out. Fuck. Film them. So it was just a fun, and it was the problem that we, lack in society today, and I've said this many times on my own social media is nuance. We've lost nuance. We've lost people with senses of humor, really, because the loud, angry few are the voice

that get a lot of noise. And unfortunately, the media has lost nuance. They should be like, yeah, that's stupid. Don't be mad at that. You know, we're going through it right now, you know, as you're filming this. Yeah, absolutely. You want to time stamp it. But, yeah.

So you know how it is. It's an interesting, man. you know, but you're right because you said something that was interesting to me. You said that the same people are the ones that are mad now. They just didn't have social media. And it's almost like the social media aspect of everything gives everybody a right to, okay, everybody has a right to their opinion. I just think now everybody feels that they have the right to be aggressive with their opinion,

man. And dude, like, I'm going to tell, my show is typically pretty, pretty good. I mean, it's pretty tame, right? We have some good people on it, right? We don't talk a lot of bad shit. And I have seen people come at people just for breathing. Like, just any excuse to have a problem with something. It blows me away, man.

Yeah, I'd say that social media is giving everybody a voice, but a lot of people should have laryngitis. Yeah, that'd be cool. You know, or if you're woke, taking a way. ambient. Like, there's two, we got to get, and there's, there's nuance. That's the thing. And it's like, dude, it's in my

community. There's comedians that get mad at stuff. It's like, that's our job to test things. And it may go over a boundary you don't like. So, okay, you don't have to laugh it off, but just don't ostracize a person to Greenland. Like, that's the problem is the whole canceling thing is the exact bullshit hypocrisy, bullshit of the world because the most inclusive people are the most exclusive. You're canceled.

You don't matter, Sean. You're a fucking carbon-based life form. But you know what? You said some shit. You're done. What? How the fuck am I going to eat? Fuck you. You know what I mean? Here's a fucking, you know what I mean? And you wonder. And they're going to fuck with us? I'm sorry, I'm a little heated right now. I like you. They're going to fuck with us. Like where are the fucking dudes a go. We're ready to go. We know what color our hair is. You know what I'm saying? It's too much. You can say whatever you want.

Shit, you can punch me in the face, but cancel me? That's crazy. I'm not supposed to exist? Yeah, yeah. Fucking suck my original dick. My original dick. Can I say that? You did. The deterred.

Yes, it's fine. I'm getting heated right now. It's too much going on because the city's burning right now. It's fucking crazy. I'm pissed off because people aren't using comments. sense. It's crazy. The same people that are throwing fucking rocks at the cops

are the same people that would fucking lose their mind if their security system went off in Brentwood if someone farted. They would call those same cops. Yeah, they would. Yeah. Sorry. See? And you're getting it too. I love it. And Miami's about to fucking flame up.

The who? Nehammy. Your hammie? Miami. Miami. Oh yeah, Miami. You're about to fucking enjoy. Hey, thank God I'm on the west coast of Florida. Oh, there's a bunch of, they didn't have the nagging and I didn't have to happen in southwest Florida. But Miami will. Oh, I mean, it's already starting. Yeah.

I saw something on the news. Yeah. Today, on accident, because I don't fucking watch the shit. And everyone has the right to protest. 1,000 percent. Well, let's use common sense. Yes. No, absolutely.

But I think it's going a step beyond it, obviously, right? So it's interesting to see into the point where we were like, okay, because I'm not from here. I don't know where the fuck this studio is. I don't know where the hotels are. Like, where is it in. to everything going on. About three miles that way. Oh, no shit.

Are you not close? Yeah. So much. Downtown's right there. Wow, we're very close. But it's a small contained area. I don't know if you want to talk about it, but it's just a small contained area. But like I said, we're the hub in social media.

Now you're seeing a little flare-ups in Seattle. You're seeing flare-ups in Chicago. I don't know if you saw New York last night. I think in Philly, too. Is this something? Philly, of course. So it's the summer 2.0, love 2.0. Yeah.

The issue is, though, is what I lost it when I saw people throwing lime scooters, which I took over here. off the bridge at police cars. Lime scooters. Dude. What's the Lime? Is that one of those rented

scooters things that you just attempted murder? No shit. That's insane. Wild, isn't it? It's insane. And I'm like, these cops had to, like, get under the bridge.

Like, but also it's just like, the people. But then I see the bullshit celebrities going, this is a travesty, what's happening in our world. But, Again, these are the same people that won't go down there. And they would call those same cops to protect their estate.

And it's just, we're at a tough point now, man. And people are at each other's throats. And I'm just telling people, the cooler heads got to prevail. Has to. Has to. But it's interesting, right? Because to my point, I was like, I don't know what it's going to be like. So I thought right here, I thought we were 20 miles away from it.

No. I didn't know. I didn't know. No. Like I was told I was 20 miles away from this like all that stuff. I'm like, oh, cool, we're good. Like, hey, it's fine. But we don't see anything, right?

I haven't seen anything. But it's, uh, it's interesting, man, because it just, it, it, when I see something like that, I'm like, fuck, man, everybody has a reason. And if they're, they're pissed off or something. Like, I totally get it. But it's like, like, man, like, seeing that on TV, that shit hurts. That's heartbreaking, man. to see all this hate, all this, everything going on,

regardless of the reasons. You know, for people listening and think that I have a certain viewpoint either way, you don't know what the fuck I'm thinking, but I'm going to tell you this, is to see the people that have died, you know, cars on fire, Lyme scooters getting thrown at cops, like, dude, that shit's, that's heavy. Yeah, and no one wants violence, no one wants people to be unlawfully taken from the,

country. No. No. But it's a rough patch and we have to, it's going to be uncomfortable, but to prevent people from doing their job. Yeah. I mean, basically in a nutshell, if you, if you break the law, you got, it's going to be consequences, even if you hate the law. I just did a whole pot about it, but. Yeah. It's interesting. But it's just, you know. With, with the landscape and everything going on like the cancel culture, how is it, has it shifted your perspective on how you write your comedy or you just, say fuck it and just keep going. Because you're pretty damn authentic.

So I probably already answered my question. I mean like, yeah, it's, it's, I don't even really write it. It's just like something happens and I react and then I do it a couple of times and then like a bit comes out of it. It's awesome. I think that I was worried about it. I think I'm honestly, we're in such a wild place in our world. You know what I mean? Like I don't think about entertainment.

I don't think about the. business. I think about there's two types of things going on in this world right now. There's people that are consumers and there are people that are investigators. And I think since COVID on, there's a whole new awakening of people that want to know what's up and they can't just sit there and watch some Netflix series because this shit is crazier than anything you're ever going to see on a Netflix show. I think there's a whole wide awakening of people that don't want to escape. So I try to, I mean, it's hard with comedy is hard. because traditionally it's like they have to make people laugh.

And so I can do that and have like, you know, two hours where I can just do that and things will happen and crowd work. Yeah. But sometimes I just like to go on a real rant and you get people like, Mm-hmm. Like here's these, like I was coming out of a holiday and express. Yes, and express. And a guy came up to me and goes,

I like what you're saying, brother. Keep doing what you're doing. And then you walk right. Was it a Holgan? It sounded like Holgan right there. See, well, hey, listen, East Tennessee. And he goes, I like what you're doing, brother. And it was like 2.30 a.m.

I was like, thanks, dude. And I was like going to a Circle K. So it's like these, it's not as big as my comedy audience yet. But those people are coming to the surface. And they want honesty. And they want it from Hollywood. And a lot of people have had disdain in Hollywood. So in a nutshell, even Netflix, I'm applauding because I think they're being more honest.

I think the roast of Tom Brady. Oh, dude, that shit was badass. It was so incredible. And it was so, it was just joke after joke and hardcore. And it changed the landscape of Netflix. And I think they're like, we're going to put comedy funny, the funniest wins. And I was so excited to see that. The thing that I'm enjoying about Netflix is the fact that.

Because they were potentially more left-leaning. And I think they changed with that. They have a good mixture of everything for everybody. But it just seems like more of a free platform. in a sense of, like, creativity-wise. Like, go ahead, say it. It's more left-ish-leaning, but, like, the roast did, I think, open it up. And I think, I think at the end of the day, they're a business.

And if you're getting views, you're going to get views. That's how they make money. It's not all the subscriptions. It's like the license. It's like everything else. I get that. But it's not even that. Like, I think for now we're all independent islands.

I, you know, I use seven platforms from YouTube to Rumble to Instagram, all of it. And I just put clips out. and stuff and you know, advertise my shows on it and it's kind of what we have to do because you can't wait for Mommy and Daddy to give you a check anymore. No. Well, again, are you coming to Florida

anytime soon? Do I was just there. Where? I was in Boka. Okay. I was with, dude, I went Sarasota, Boka. Shit. Naples. You were just in Naples? Yeah. Is that your spot? Dude, I was just did six shows at off the hook.

It's my spot. When were you there? I was there three weeks ago. I'm glad my marketing worked. Yeah, seriously. I'm glad you used your phone with alerts for Jamie Kennedy. Well, I mean, I, you know. Did you get your any Facebook ad from me? No.

Are we friends? I followed you. You haven't followed me back yet. You'll be my friend? I'll be your friend, dude. We got numbers now. I'll poke you. Yeah, you poke me.

I'll poke you back. That's a match, I think. No, you can poke on Facebook. That was the OG. Oh, Facebook you can poke. Yeah. But yeah, no, Florida, is, I mean, dude, I do shows from Destin, Jacksonville.

I love it. I just did a big run there, but unfortunately. I'm pissed off. I missed it, man. But I go back a lot because I just love it there. And it's so funny because you're doing this. And I'm like, I could have a little base in Florida. I don't know where I would live because I like so many places. And then keep my other base out here because you could just go make a bunch of content and then come back.

Well, Naples area is beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. There's a store there called seed. Seed to table. Yeah. Al-Fie Oaks. Dude, it's so party.

It is. It's like the food's incredible, but it's actually just a party. Like there's bands. There's a nightclub upstairs. I wanted them to start doing comedy. They probably would. Bro, it's so good there.

And in the bathroom, they have a Joe Biden thing. The little urinal cake. I don't want to say it, but pretty funny. I mean, if they've been there, they've seen it. They've got FJB on the train. Alfie's crazy. It's crazy. I mean, dude,

unapologetic about it. The food is bomb. Food is so good. The coffee is bomb. Like you can get anything there. The sushi, the tacos. Everything, dude. So one of our friends said to me and my wife,

hey, let's do something tonight. Let's do like a family thing. We're like, all right, cool, where you want to go? Let's go to seat a table. Because I hadn't been there yet. Yeah. I'm like, you want to go hang out at a fucking grocery store? I was like, what are you even talking about?

Like, why would I do this? I'd rather go to the movies and watch a cartoon than they go hang out in a grocery store. They're like, trust me. I'm like, all right, fine. So we walk in and I'm like, what the fuck is this place, dude? Like, you go over and you look to the, you know, where you come in. So I came in from over here. So I look to the left and there's that bar.

Yep. And then like, you know, hey, can I have a, you know, Miller Light? They're like, okay, cool. Boom. And the beer comes from up here. Yeah, some wild shit. Yeah. Or down here, not up here.

But up in. Up in. I'm like doing this and on the show. Yeah. Up in crazy. Yeah, up in there. This just took a turn. This is for the Patreon only.

Exactly. The bonus content. See, that's the thing is like, I love Florida. I love Arizona. All these states that, you know, you would think I love Vegas. I love Texas. I love New York, too, even though it gets a little, you know, it gets a little upbeat. But I'm always going to love L.A.

and L.A. will always be my home. But I can't, I definitely can see myself having something somewhere else as well. But I don't know. It's just, it made me my, it's my bones. I've, you know, have my name here. Dude, this is where you built your life. And even though it's going to a tough time, it's like I never want to abandon it because I love it.

And I feel at home, especially right in this area. Like this is why I've lived this area. I don't live too far. And then this part of Hollywood, West Hollywood. It's just where everything started in Hollywood. Yeah. And there's a gravitational pull. So we just have to, you know, we've gone through some stuff.

Yeah. This has been a tough year for the city. Yeah, it sure has. But again, like you said, you know, just like with life and in relationships or the place you live, there's going to be rough seasons. Yeah. Right. And it doesn't mean you abandon.

that area or that relationship because of the tough season. You go through it, you grow through it, and hopefully the city or the relationship comes out stronger. Yeah, and it's like this city is made up of every nationality. It's the city of immigrants, you know, from the Mexican culture to the Korean culture to Thai culture to, you know, European, whatever, man. Africans, a lot of Africans here, and the food and the vibe and the different parts of the city.

And that's what makes it great. And we wanted to be that way. Yeah, I think that they just want everybody to do it in a safe way. Sure. Yeah, so. You know, California is interesting because I grew up in the San Francisco Bay. So I can appreciate. You know what's up.

Dude, it's melting pot. Where did you grow? So Concord Walnut Creek area, you know, in the East Bank. A lot of time out there. Yeah. He used to do comedy at our rooster tea feathers. You know exactly where that is. Exactly.

Yeah, that man. So, the bay is the bay. Yeah. I always consider the bay a little more gangster version of L.A. Even though L.A.'s gangster, but the Bay is, they don't play. You know what I'm saying? It's funny because every time someone gets in my car, you know, or say, what kind of music do you like? I throw on some RBL posse or some underground, you know, hip-hop, and they're like, bro, you're super white.

I'm like, yeah. They don't know. You don't fucking know what I grew up with. With, like you, you, you grow up with E40, you know what I'm saying? Exactly. I grew up leaving the bike path walking home and seeing the bloods chasing my ass. Like, you know, and back then I didn't realize the gravity of the situation, right? But those were gangsters, man.

So, but that is funny. Like, it is a very gangster area. And I didn't grow up in the actual, like, I'm not saying I grew up in Hunter's Point, right? But I had a friend that got shot up in Hunter's Point. I'm sorry. Right? He lived. So thank God for that

But you know It took a wrong turn at night And you know Vehicle got sprayed man But you know So the California I miss California so much That's crazy I'm talking to you

I didn't know I thought you were a Florida guy So here you are you are the bit You're a California native I am I am I was here the first 21 years of my life Went to Louisiana for school Came back and stayed until 08 into the mortgage crash

Or whatever And then you know my family had relocated to Florida, so I went out to Florida and I just, I never came back. Yeah. I never came back. But I mean, your roots are here. My roots are here, man. I'm a Californian, man.

That's your Philly for me. Yeah. It's like there's a certain emotion, man. Mm-hmm. You know, I know I'm not on East Bay soil right now, but I feel it. Yeah. You know, it's like I'm home and there's a certain calm about me being home in California, man. It's very true.

I feel, I mean, I do feel that even though I'm originally. from Philly and I can do that in Philly it's a different feeling but I do feel that in California it is and I love that you're saying California because there's pockets from Palm Springs to you know Baker's Field 100% to where you're at to you know Pacific Beach in San Diego it is I've touched all corners of the state and I do feel there's little places I know where to go where to eat where to sleep and you know I've spent a lot of time in northern California And I just, I understand exactly what you're saying. And they're going through it too.

Yeah. And it's, but it's just absolutely beautiful. I just love it, man. It's just crazy because it's like, you know, you talk about, you know, all these different pockets of California. Because there's truly different cultures everywhere in California. You go up to, you know, nor, like, Nor-Nor-Kal, like Eureka, Siskus. And it's just, it's just woods, man.

And it's like, I need a, I need a campfire. And I need a beer. And, like, this is just. Like, we're gonna kick it. One of my shows, when we opened back up, one of my first shows was in Chico. Oh, shit. That's a fun place.

Bro. And I, it was early 2022. And I signed a breast. After my show. But I used to do that a lot. And then we had the Me Too. And then we had COVID and everyone. And Chico, shout out Chico.

I signed my first breast after like, eight years. That's awesome. And I'm like, brought them back, man. I'm like, we're back. Yeah, we're coming. And then people are like, that's like a hello and Chico. Yeah. So I didn't know that. So that's why I literally have love for Chico for doing that.

It's boobs, man. Well, it's just, yeah, because I was like, I'm like, I'm like, everyone at. And she's like, I want it on. But. So you're about to make a trade based on a friend's text. But which you do you listen to? Is it,

we could buy a house in Tulum. Get optioning those options. We could lose everything. Or let's do a little research. Get your head in the trade and make the investment decision that's right for you. Learn more at finra.org slash trade smart. Dude, it's not even about that. It's about much more than...

People were laughing. They were having a good time. It was the way it was. And everyone wasn't uptight about everything. And of course, we have to get better and we've made a lot of mistakes. But it's also like, let's move on. Let's, you know, I feel like everyone, we live in a culture now where there's a lot of people that don't know how to have fun. Because, like we said, everyone has a voice.

And instead of having fun, they're, like, snitches and, like, little hall monitors. Yeah. And there are definitely people that have to be reported. But it's like at some point, let's all just, it's, I don't know. I don't know. It just seems to be. They don't want you to have, they want to go, you did that. Yeah, but.

You're bad, Sean. Without getting too much. dude, it's just crazy because it's like it's almost like it becomes a, like it becomes one person says something and it's like, oh, 27 years ago, it's like, it becomes a, everybody starts and it's just because we live in a culture that's connected, you can't make a mistake and be in a vacuum anymore. Yeah. Which is good if you're a bad person, but also which is bad if you're a good person that made a bad choice. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's a good point, man. California.

Yeah. Damn. I love that you're a no-Cal native. Nor Cal, man. You know what I love about California? Like, food-wise, just, like, do the fucking Mexican food? Yeah. It's different.

100%. We went to Temecula. Last October, my wife and I went to our friend, Lauren's wedding. And we stayed in Temecula. And I said, babe, while we're here, we're going to go have some Mexican food. And she goes, how different. I'm like, dude. Yeah.

She goes, what are you getting? I go, I'm getting a bean cheese and rice burrito. And she goes, what do you mean? Like, it's just beans. I go, you don't understand. You get what you get. And then I'm going to give you a bite of mine. And then you're going to try to freaking take my shit.

Yeah, exactly. And one bite, she goes, what the fuck are those beans? And the beans, it's just different. Eating even the cheese. Yeah. Like, I've Googled it. I'm like, why do beans in California taste so much better? I get some bullshit AI answer.

No one wants to give me the real reason. Yeah. Dude, I just, I miss it, man. I miss being able to go. And I'm not going to move. But I'm, I miss. going what I want. Even people that have a good life

and they're successful and they're doing whatever, it's so true, dude. That's your great answer. They miss California. Even if you're in the middle of the shit, it's an energy. It is.

It's different. And I love that you say that because you're a native. And you're rare. Because a lot of people fucking up the place are not natives. So crazy, man. Yeah.

I appreciate that. We need people like you back. Get a second spot. What was that? Dude, that's a good idea. I mean, come on,

dude. I don't know. You might be OC now, but you look like you're a guy that would buy a nice spot and Dana Point. I don't know, man. Or if you want to stay in Hollywood.

I mean, dude, seems like a cool place. I mean, I haven't had a bad experience here yet. Yeah. It's been cool. No, man. It's a special place, man.

And you're right. You know, it's a great resource and it's being destroyed. and you just, I mean, there's a whole bunch of issues going on. Yeah. I mean, like, with the fires and now, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I mean, California is going through some shit, man. And it's just, it's really hard to see, you know, just as much as, like, I hate, I think, I think it's three years there, but I hate to see hurricanes destroy, Louisiana. You know, it just, it's heartbreaking.

But I also hate to see my hometown in Fort Myers destroyed by Hurricane Ian. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was, that shit's wild. So, everybody's going through it, man. And, you know, we all have to find ways to continue on to, you know, and, you know, you know, to continue with your comedy and your in your acting career and you know with me and my show and teachers got to teach uh grocery store clerks got to go to work and everything like that it takes a

certain amount of determination right because we're all going through some shit and life happens like that you just don't know what's going to happen right so you stay present you and you and you and you should value the moments that when there's a certain calm to it right but when that adversity hits and that struggle hits you have to display discipline and determination so like As we close down the show, man, the show obviously is called a determined society for a reason, right? Because there's certain displays that I feel and that every individual has to display daily. But my question to you is, what does determination mean to you? Oh, you know, I think it's about sticking to the task at hand.

And I think we've gotten too sporadic with too many things at work. wants we're a multitasking society and you know we're literally breeding ADD every day and I think determine is to have a feeling of a goal you want to achieve you can't really think it it has to have a feeling in you and it's literally following through but you have to know like you know Arnold Schwarzenegger says so much about life through his bodybuilding and And he'll tell you, just start with a push-up. And if you can't do a push-up, do a push-up from your knees. Just one.

And, you know, there's also that general that says, make your bed. And I think we would all be more beneficial in society if we just did basic tasks of learning how to take care of ourselves, having a basic routine. of life and have it simple and keep things simple and then you will learn who you are and what you like there's so many lost people in the world and then when you do it don't beat yourself up of what you're trying to accomplish it's the I know it's going to sound corny but the journey really is the destination you got to love what you do but in terms of determined everything that's a failure is just a lesson. like the stages and part of the process absolutely man great answer dude try well hey dude i enjoyed you

man i could have sat here with you for three hours thanks bro dude like fun conversation it just kept getting better and um just man i'm just glad to have met you man and you know when you come back out in florida hit me up you know seated table seat at table we can go to ced table yes and i'll find you a nice realtor i can find you a home bam you know you have your second spot out there in Naples. I love it. That a boy. So, dude, thanks again, though, seriously.

Thank you, brother. Congrats. All right, guys. Go check out, Jamie. Stand-up comedy, touring all over the United States. Go check them out. Until next time, stay determined. Next up is a little song from CarMax about selling a car your way.

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