Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - Journey of Resilience and Perseverance with Nolan Carroll

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

In this powerful episode, Shawn French sits down with former NFL cornerback Nolan Carroll to discuss his inspiring journey of perseverance, resilience, and overcoming obstacles. Nolan opens up about the challenges he faced on his path to the NFL, beginning with a devastating leg injury in high school that threatened to derail his football career. Despite this setback, he remained determined to keep pushing forward. His unyielding dedication paid off when he earned a scholarship to play college football at the University of Maryland. However, adversity struck again in his senior year when another leg injury forced him to miss the entire season. Faced with the uncertainty of his future, Nolan had every reason to give up, but his passion for football and unwavering belief in himself kept him focused. He shares the emotional and mental toll these setbacks took on him and how he found strength by staying patient, embracing the process, and keeping his ultimate goal in sight. Nolan's perseverance eventually paid off, and he achieved his dream of making it to the NFL, where he played for the Miami Dolphins and the Philadelphia Eagles. He speaks candidly about the importance of persistence, staying grounded, and not rushing the process, emphasizing that success comes with time, effort, and dedication. Today, Nolan is committed to giving back as a coach at Jacksonville Athletic Academy, where he helps mentor and develop young athletes. He discusses his passion for guiding the next generation, teaching them not only athletic skills but also life lessons about resilience, discipline, and hard work. Nolan emphasizes the importance of preparing these athletes for both the physical and mental challenges they will face as they pursue their own dreams of playing at the next level. Throughout the episode, Nolan shares valuable insights about the mindset it takes to overcome adversity, his approach to leadership, and the significance of patience and process in achieving long-term success. Whether you're an aspiring athlete or someone striving to achieve your goals, Nolan's story will resonate deeply and inspire you to keep pushing forward, no matter the challenges you face. Subscribe to our YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedeterminedsociety   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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And I wanted to make sure before anything happens, I wanted them to see me smile. Like let them know that it was going to be okay and I'm going to be fine. And I remember when those doors shut, I just remember almost breaking down to the point where I was just like, once you said, once again, you said, not again. That's what I thought. All this work that I put in, what was it for? What if you were going into your senior year at Maryland? It's the most important football season of your life. You have the draft impending.

You have the thing that most college football players look forward to, which is the combine, the time for you to shine. And then on your second game, you break your leg. And you have to sit there all here wondering whether you're going to get drafted at all. You have to make the decision to miss the NFL combine and just show up at Pro Day and run your fastest because you know if you show up to the combine and don't run your fastest, you are cooked. Well, this story right here, my man Nolan Carroll, stuck with the process,

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What's up, everybody? We're back at Lynch's Irish pub and Jacksonville Beach floor. I got my boy, Nolan Carroll here, 10-year NFL vet, played for the Miami Dolphins, the Philadelphia Eagles and finish his career with the Dallas Cowboys. And he's doing some amazing things now with the next generation, with the college that he's coaching at. And, you know, I'm just super excited to have you on the show. Welcome, bro.

Appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me all. Absolutely, man. So let's talk a little bit about it. You know, you have such a decorated career. I mean, I grew up as a young man wanting to play professional baseball. You know, my career stopped at Louisiana State University. But you, man, you know, when played college ball, Maryland, right?

And then draft in 2010, have this amazing career. Talk to me about that, man. For the people that don't know your story, flew them in. Yeah, so my story, it's interesting because I just talked to my guys about this today. As a matter of fact, I always just, anytime there was a test in front of me, and I think it's because of my parents, my mom and my dad's. Anytime there was a challenge in front of me, I always embrace a challenge. I never felt like I needed to run away and hide from the challenge.

And many people that don't know my situation, I broke my leg in high school, my senior year of high school, before I got to Maryland. And then five years later in my career, Maryland just trying to work up to the ranks of a starter, finally getting my shot, getting my opportunity on the Thorpe Award watch list, which means top defensive back in the nation,

have these preseason accolades, I'm supposed to be a second round pick, late first round pick, So all these different things are going back and forth as far as the player that's about to come out for a senior season. And I break my leg again, my senior year. So I missed my entire senior year. So I'm going to have to bounce back and really attack rehab. There's a whole bunch of questions now as far as, am I going to get drafted?

Am I going to be a free agent? And it was just one of those things where through those persevering times, it really tests if you really want it, if you really want to be disciplined, if you want to fight through. So for me, it was just one of those things where any time I was presented with that, test. I just said, all right, this is another test for me to get better because I know on the other side is where the prize is. So that's been my career and that's why I've been able to manifest the things that I have because anytime there's a test, I never shy away from it. I always attack it. This big, right? So I want the audience to understand that when the things get hard in

your life, it's not the time to shut down and downshift and maybe find that plan B. There is no plan B. Exactly. So I mean, here again, like you could have said your senior year, here we go again. Yeah. Victim mentality. Boo-hoo. I broke my leg again. And I think that point, I mean, you're a young man, you're a collegiate athlete. At that point, you're still a kid. Yeah. And you have to go through those moments where is this going to even happen now? Yeah. Am I going to have my shot? If I'm a free agent, am I going to get an opportunity? And yet, you know, you still got drafted. Yeah. Right. So it says something big day. You had a successful NFL career. Like that's special, though. There's a lot of people that can, you know,

go through that moment. So let's talk about the moment when you did break your leg, your senior, year because I know you had the tools to get through it, but there hasn't been something in the back of your mind that said, oh man, like what's my life going to be like now? Yes, yes. And it happened when I was on the field getting carted off to go on the ambulance. And I just remember this vividly my parents being there. My whole family was there. And I wanted to make sure before anything happens, I wanted them to see me smile. Like let them know that it was going to be okay. And I'm going to be fine. And I remember when those door shut, I just remember almost breaking down to the point where I was just like, once you

said, once again, you said, not again. That's what I thought. All this work that I put in, what was it for? And then I just remember quickly, once I started getting x-rays and they're cutting my pants because I couldn't take it off myself, I said, now is the time where you have to understand and prepare your mind. Once the surgery is over, once you understand the whole dynamics of what's going to happen, the next day is when rehab starts realistically. And that's what you got to get your mind right for. It's you can't reverse time. You can't go back on the field and try and fix it. You can't unbreak the leg.

You can't do it. So you're here now. This is what you need to do. This is what you understand. And it's really comes down to being in the moment. Whether it's good and bad or bad, you have to be in the moment and understand that you can get through it or you can't obtain what you're trying to obtain. And that's what I did. I love that, man, because so many times, and I can say even in my life, too, when shit gets hard.

Yeah. It's like that's the time for you to lean into that pain. I have to. Right. So what you're talking about in that back of that ambulance, you didn't stray away from that and push it down and kind of, you know, try to sidestep it. You're like, okay, this hurts. Like, this is real.

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I knew I couldn't take care of the draft stuff. I couldn't, I couldn't worry about what scouts were thinking that was out of my control. And I just knew let me control what I can't control. I knew that I can go to rehab. How many times can I go to rehab? All right, three times a day. If I can go three times a day, I'm going three times a day. Sure. What are you doing when you get home? I wasn't in school anymore. I had finished school. So the next thing was, okay, you can find time to rehab in between. So when I got home, that's all I did was rehab. When I went to rehab, I rehab, I rehab. When I got back home, I rehabbed again. So I'm always talking to my guys, especially my team, about creating time. And if you can find

ways to create time, that extends time later on for you. And that's what I was able to do and create. And as time grew on and I met somebody, it's probably one of the best trainers I think in the world, Chip Smith. He's in Atlanta. Champ Bailey was his first guy. Brian Erlacher was another one, Keith Brook and Jerry Zoom. All those guys were pro bowlers. Some names, right? Yes. And he's had many other guys since then. But I remember when I got to him, he told me, and this was January when I started, He said by the end of the month, I'm going to get you running again. And I was shocked, but he stayed on me. So the stuff that I was able to do at Maryland pushing myself to create time,

he was able to create more time for me because when I was with him, we were only concentrated on getting better. When I rehab, I rehabbed. But when I got back with him, it was still more about creating time again. And by the end of the month, right before the combine, as a matter of fact, I was ready to run and he told me not to run because he said, look, the week after is your pro day. Let's go ahead and keep attacking.

Let's just go ahead and keep attacking rehab training. And then finally, shoot, when it was my time to actually run, I showed those scouts that I was back to where I was both being. And it was all because of me understanding that I can create the momentum to get me to where I need to go. And once I went through that process of the combine and my workouts, teams were comfortable enough to invest that investment in me because they saw that he broke his leg.

We saw the medical report. We got all the information we need on him, but yet he's still back. He's still here. He still ran a good time. Yeah. And all these other qualities that we saw before he broke his leg, they're still there as a way. They're even better now at that point, right? And that was when Miami pulled the trigger.

And they knew from, and I remember this, I remember talking to Coach Perano, Todd Bowles, Jeff Ireland. I talked to all those guys. I looked him straight in the face and I said, look, I'm ready, I'm good. If you're willing to take this chance on me, I'm not going to let you down. That's exactly what happens. You see, that's the thing, though, man. That's what I think society is missing. Yeah.

You know, and you had great role model. You talk about your mom and your dad. You learn a lot from them and be able to lean into those moments. See, that's, that's amazing, right? It's like, hey, you saw the medical report. You know, I'm here. I'm ready to rock and roll. How much trust did it take for you, though?

Because when your coach said, you're not going to run at the combine. Like, where's your mind go? Let's be honest. Like that's the time. Like when you turn on the TV, NFL Combine, you're watching dudes run that forward. Yeah. How did that play in your mind? That's all you dream about.

Yeah. As a football player, you don't dream about the draft day. You dream about the Combine. Yeah. Because you know that's where you can actually display your skills amongst the best of the best. Right. For me, that's all I thought about for the five years I was in college was that because I was fortunate enough to go to school with Shaw Merriman, who was the seventh overall pick.

Yeah. Vernon Davis, who was the sixth overall pick. Dary's him. who was the seventh overall pick. Those guys, when they were on display at the combine, that's what got their status there. And I knew at Maryland, we were a mid-tier school

meaning as far as the status of who we were, but we still played big games. My thing was, if they're going to consider me just average, if I go to the combine, if I go to the senior ball, I want to blow it out the water to where they understand, all right, this is a gem in the draft and his draft stock is rising.

That's what I wanted to hear. But when Chip pulled me to the side, he said, I don't want you doing anything. I said, everything that I work for, it should not be for not. I need to do this, but he said, look, if you don't run a good time, that's just going to reinforce you being hurt and you're still hurt.

You need to do it in a comfortable setting. You need to do it at your college where you understand a setting. You understand your position coach, your strength conditioning coach. You know they're going to be at your place. So they're going to be at your place, everything that you've done to train yourself is familiar for you.

And you'll be able to run what you need to run. And when he said it and he explained it that way to me, I was able to put the full picture together. And a lot of the times we don't understand the full picture because we're only thinking about right now. Exactly. And he had me look at the bigger picture. And I'm glad he did because those guys were running slower times at the combine because what people don't know is whenever we're the last group as far as DBs to run. So that means the turf is softer. If the turf is softer, you don't get to gloss.

It's a lot of give. Yeah. So guys are running four six, four sevens. and it didn't look good. So if I was a guy to run and I ran a 4-7, it wouldn't have done well. And now I'd have to come back to next week to try and reinforce,

hey, whatever happened last week, that was last week. The first impressions were very important in the NFL. So he wanted to make sure my first impression was the best impression, and that's what ended up happening. That's the thing about, you talk about you can't do things alone.

Yes. So you have to trust your coaches. You have to trust your support. You know, let's move into the league now. Ten years. I mean, bro, you had these moments in college where you're fighting to get better. You spent 10 years, 10 years in the league, man.

What did that mean to you? Me, I've always gracious to God for that, first and foremost, because you never know. Like, you really never know if you're going to be able to play an NFL game. You go into camp, yes. And most guys, when they go into camp, they feel like they've arrived. Oh, just be kidding. My thing was, I never felt like I arrived because I wanted to always prove. that, no, I belong here.

Yeah. Whether the injuries does not play a part of my mind, I'm proving to myself before I'm proving to anybody else that I belong here. And if I'm going to be here, I'm not going to waste my time here. So every time I stepped out on the field, I always was just thankful for it. And I remember when I played in Philadelphia, and this was the realest thing, one of our captains, Malcolm Jenkins, he should be a Hall of Famer.

But he would always say this before practice. He's like, look, I don't care if you're tired. I don't care if you're sore. I don't care what you got going on at home. There's somebody right now that's working at McDonald's wishing that they could be on this field today. So you should always take every single day. You should always be grateful. Don't worry about the game.

Only worry about practice and be thankful that you get to have a practice. That's leadership, bro. And when he said that, I mean, every single day I was just gracious for it because I knew not everybody gets this opportunity. So anytime I just walk into the facility, leaving from the facility, being able to go somewhere and somebody knows I played for their favorite team. I took that to heart and I made sure that any time I was out there on the field, I was playing from. for that person, that Uber driver that was taking me to a restaurant. That little kid that saw me at camp and I took, I had his autograph. That person that saw me in the restaurant and I took a picture with their son or daughter.

Like, those are the people that I was doing it for. So every time I was out on the field, I knew my why. Yeah. Once I knew my why, that makes you just play so much more free because you understand that somebody is watching you. They're not just watching the team anymore. Yeah. They're watching, oh, I know that guy. I feel a part of that team more because of that players.

It's funny you mentioned that. Like, I don't know if a lot of people think of it that way, like you talk about playing for the fans like my wife is a big Eagles fan like I went when they won the Super Bowl yeah like I went to an Eagles bar you saw another side of her bro I know you did so scary you're gonna meet her in a second but she's here but but dude like crazy like I'm rooting for the Eagles and one of the Eagles fans trying to fight me in an Eagles bar while I'm rooting for their team in a Super Bowl I'm not surprised it's crazy but but dude that's that's a great point man and I love that that there are some professional athletes that

that keep that in mind. There are something that just go out there and do it because, like, hey, this is all me. It's not. There's a big community that you don't even see that their whole date depends on, like, how they perform. I mean, I'm that way with LSU football. LSU football loses like, I'm depressed. Like, I'm yelling at.

I'm the worst LSU fan. I'm like, actually, you know what? I'm on par with every other LSU fan. Okay. We are bad. Are you? Oh, no, we're bad. Because, like, if they lose, you guys suck.

You know, but. So it's almost like, you know, I've played with so many guys from LSU. And they used to say it's like, it's championship robust. Dude, you can't. Yeah. If you don't win an addie there, it's nothing. Same thing with baseball, man. I play baseball there.

And when we got beaten Omaha, we come back and people are filming like, what happened, what happened, what happened? We too on barbecue, man. But listen, I want to transition a little bit because I do not want to miss about what you're doing now with the college of your coach and what you do for next generation. So your head coach now, but you're working with your brother? Yes, my brother. So talk to me about that.

that. What are you doing? Yeah, so we created, we call it JA still. It's called Jacksonville Athletic Academy. Jacksonville Athletic Christian College as well. And my brother came up with his idea during COVID, at all times. And I remember him and I, we were driving from South Florida. And he said, Nolan, what is the one thing that's missing right now? What do you see the dynamic of college football? Like, what do you see that's going on? And I started telling him, there's a lot of kids that are missing out on opportunities to continue to keep playing. It's not the same as when we grew up, where we had coaches that were pushing us to be sold, basically sold to be recruited by schools. And he said, yes, that's a problem, but also, too, just with all this other stuff that's going on in college

football, the high school kids are losing out on opportunities to go to the next level. And as he started piecing this together, he said, look, let's create a football program that's going to cater to these kids that are to miss out on an opportunity to go to school. Let's help them get filmed, show them what they need to do to go to the next level. And just based with the experiences that I have and the coaches that I know, the people that I know I sat back and started thinking, if we can piece this together the right way, meaning if I can show coaches, the coaches that I know, that there's talented kids that are in the area of Jacksonville that can be on your team, not to be the guy, but to be that person that can be an impact player on your team and be a

leader, that's what you need. And someone that you don't have to worry about paying NIL deals to that just is only concentrated on coming to this team to see how he can help you win and keep your job. That's the bottom line. And for us, as this thing is growing, this is a fourth year now. And, you know, we've got 11 kids out to different schools, Division 1, Division 2. And the thing we pride ourselves on is understanding that all our kids are starting somewhere right now. We have 11 kids that are Division 1, Division 2 schools, and they're all started. And they pride themselves on understanding the values that we created here at JA so that when they do go to these other schools, these kids are chasing the money.

They're chasing the attention. Our kids are chasing the playtime, the opportunity to play there, and then be that impact leader so that they know that when it's time, I can go somewhere else. So they understand the system. We built the culture within our school

to understand a system somewhere else so they can thrive and understand how to be better for themselves and gain that confidence to build their own brand and be that identity so that they can show somebody else and keep that going. So it's been a great ride.

Dude, that's sick, bro. It's been a great ride, man. And this team this year, though, I honestly believe this is the best team I've had because those guys get it. I test them every single day. And they're just like, what's the next challenge? Yeah, where you got? And that's what you want.

But see, also that is indicative of who you are. Right? So leadership, right, it rolls downhill. Yeah. If you weren't that guy and you didn't display that for them, they wouldn't be responding like that. Yeah. So that's big, man.

What does it meant to you to come back and do something like that? Because the biggest thing that I'm hearing here is you're preparing kids to go. into that next system to be successful in play while everybody else is worried about social media all their commitment photos nil what can i get it's completely independent of the actual grid iron yes so you've known this keep the main thing the main thing yep we've lost sight of what the main thing is the main thing's always been football right yeah so at the end of the day i'm teaching them the same fundamentals of football the football stuff is what gets you the deals it's always been like that. I've never just played football for a year and then got my deal to Nike or got

my deal to Under Armour. It's never happened that way. I had to make plays on the field first to get those deals. And once I start explaining to these guys, the work that you do every day, coming early, taking notes, making sure that you're preparing before practice, that's the creating time I'm talking about, creating time for your highlight film. The longer your highlight film is that means you're doing something right. It's not just putting plays to put plays out there. It's showing a coach, what technique am I playing with, what system am I playing in? How efficient am I doing that? Right away, coaches only look at a minute of film.

So in that minute is very crucial for me to understand what I need to do and how I need to do it. Because I know if I do it right, everything else is going to come to me. I don't have to chase the deals. The deals are going to come to me. And I don't have to worry about the things that are out of my control. I can't control that. But I know I can control my work ethic and my discipline. If I do that, I'll get those deals easily.

It's massive. You're talking about focusing on the process, right? You're talking about focusing on your craft. That's what you're there to do. All the other stuff is going to come. Exactly. And that's what I've brought into the show. It's like, I can't worry about where I'm going to be.

Yeah. I got to worry about this right here with going to Carol. And then everything else takes care of itself. We keep fighting and fighting before we wrap up. Okay. I want you to do one thing for me. Okay. I want you to give the youth the best advice you can give them right now,

whether they're baseball players, musicians, football players. It doesn't matter. What would you tell them if they're sitting right here fun of you right now. I would tell them don't rush it. Don't rush it. I mean if you rush it, you'll never be ready for it and then you'll lose it. Don't rush it at all. You have to be patient. With this whole game of life, it's about patience. And it took me a long time to figure that out. I'm still learning it still to this day. Are we all? Yeah. But if you're a young person that sees or tries to compare yourself to somebody else, don't do that. Their timeline is different from

yours. So you have to understand, be patient with your work, be patient with your preparation. make sure that when the time actually comes, you'll be ready for it. Because if you try and force it, you start doing somebody else's job, you start doing too much, and then you lose that opportunity. And you don't want to do that

because you'll repeat the cycle again and again until you get it right. So you might as well be patient with it to prepare, and when that time comes, hey, everything that you've done, it'll show. So never rush it. Love it, man. Thank you. You guys heard it.

Don't rush it. Be patience. Follow the process. Nolan, Carol, man. Thank you so much. I appreciate you. No problem, bro. Appreciate it.

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That's a legacy, man. Talk to me about that because that's big. Yeah, so it's kind of funny. People always say, how are you, O'Garcia? It was just a guy that came over on a boat in Cuba in 1875, and we ended up in Jacksonville, Florida, and been at the beach ever since. It's just a place we love.

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