Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

Rob Gronkowski joins host Shawn French for a raw and hilarious look at what it really takes to win, on and off the field. From getting beat up by his older brothers to building a football legacy and dominating in business, Gronk breaks down the mindset that made him unstoppable. They dive into everything: NFL lessons, NIL chaos, locker room losses, personal growth, recovery, and what true determination really means. This is the Gronk story like you've never heard it. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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No one else got a brand new baseball myth because we were all using that baseball met and it was all getting passed down. So I was just saying with any equipment, we would just do hand-me-downs, even with clothes. The only thing that wasn't hand-me-downs was underwear and socks. We had to work for everything. It wasn't like anything was given. In the sporting world, nothing's given as well. You got to adjust on the fly and learn that as a kid.

I'll be working. Just know I'm a goal for mine because I earned it. They watch and I know it's time. I confirmed. I confirmed. What's up, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Determined Society. I'm your host Sean Fritch, and today we are at a special venue for Advanced Solutions second annual sales meeting.

And I have a special guest today, four-time Super Bowl champion, five-time Pro Bowler, and a no-douder. First Ballot Hall of Fame, Rob Runkowski. What's up, baby? Wow, how you doing, man? Good, man. That was impressive. You just knew my accolades like that. It's not like you have a screen that you're reading it off. It was just in back of your head. You remember that? You know, I didn't even know. What was I? Four-time All-Pro?

five-time pro baller. You were a five-time pro-biller, four-time first-time, first team. What's that called? All-Pro. Yeah. Damn, that's impressive that you know that, man. Doing your homework. That's what I'm talking about. You were determined right there. Son of a gun. That's being determined. Dude, real quick, how's Ralphie? Yes, Ralphie's doing real good. I mean, that guy is determined to make sure I bring him for a walk in the morning in the afternoon and at nighttime as well. But he's just a French bulldog living his best life. He's got two wonderful parents. His mama loves him.

I love him. Everyone that watches him loves him as well. He's got a great personality. And he's fit as heck. He's jacked. I mean, he is jacked for a friend. The way of chase his tennis falls around. Your mom's fool.

He does sprints all day. It's pretty impressive. It's like a guy can recover better than anyone I've ever seen before in my life. Did he do ice pass? No, not really. He likes heat, though, so he'll go on a heating pass. Good. And then an hour later, he's recovered.

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And again, dude, just all jokes aside, you know, it was really nice, you know, over there's mom's breakfast. We did his omelets in the bag with the boy. I've never done it like that before. And Camille was so kind. My daughter and, you know, they really vibed. And it was just, it was an awesome time, man. Yeah, my mom, she's got all these traditional ways of cooking that you really never seen before.

And she learned it from her parents way back in the day. And then she's brought it to our lives. So it was like, you put like these eggs and all the sides that you want in your eggs as well. and you scrambled them, you put them inside a bag, and you sealed off the bag, and then you put that bag in boiling water, and it cooked the eggs and all the veggies and everything inside that bag, and then you just open the bag,

and boom, here came the scrambled eggs or an omelet just that was made inside the bag. And it's a really unique way, and no one's really ever seen it before, but it's very simple and basic, and she just brings it to a whole other level by just adding that experience to breakfast. It was awesome.

I've been there twice for breakfast. both times amazing you know great food um but the one thing that i've noticed most about my interactions with gorty your mom your brothers and then you and everybody in your family is just you guys are all super kind and you're very well adjusted and it's always great to see somebody that's done the amazing things that you've done on the football field and in your entrepreneurial journey but then to be such a great person and have such great people behind you that that to me says everything about a given being. Yeah, I appreciate that, man.

I appreciate that, you know, love and support to my whole entire family because you weren't just recognizing myself there. You're recognizing my family. That's just how we were brought up, you know. My parents, they made us work for everything that we got, you know. They could have easily handled us anything, but they really made us work for it. For example, Gord's, you know, he's my oldest brother. He's six years older than me.

And then, you know, he got a brand new baseball mitt because he was the first one to play baseball but guess what no one else got a brand new baseball myth because we were all using that baseball man and it was all getting passed down and i was same with our hockey skates i was same with our hockey pants i was just same with any equipment that you needed for for whatever sporting event that you were playing in and uh we would just do hand me downs even with clothes the only thing that wasn't hand me downs was underwear and socks but uh which thankfully you and my parents bought us new underwear and socks man uh but we i'm sure that we did there might have been have some cross so have some Crossovers there.

Cross over. No doubt, but we had to work for everything, you know. It wasn't like anything was given. In the sporting world, nothing's given as well. You got to adjust on the fly to whatever is presented in front of your face, to whatever the opponent is bringing to the table. And every single week, you're going to face a new opponent. So you've got to adjust your game. You've got to adjust on the fly and learn that as a kid.

And where I really learned how to adjust was just going versus my brothers. and also, you know, as a kid and also going versus all my brother's friends. I mean, they had so many friends over on a daily basis. They're all two years older than me, four years older than me. And I had to adjust my skill set and adjust how I played versus, you know, they felt like grownups to me at the time. Because a two-year, four-year age difference when you're six, eight, ten years old is a tremendous age gap. And especially if you're competing in sports. So I had to do, you know, that's why I've really learned, you know, how to deal with.

with situations in the athletic world. Yeah. You know, I think what's interesting, too, is for the audience, I really want you to key in on this because, you know, you've had this illustrious career. You've built multiple businesses.

Your brothers have had, you know, professional careers. In fact, too, your brothers also won Super Bowls. Gordy played professional baseball. Every single Ronkowski played a professional sport. But it didn't start there. In my opinion, when I look at,

I pull the onion back. I look at your dad. I look at your mom. I look at your dad and how he built Ronk Fitness. And he taught you guys at our early age to build something from the ground up. And you guys understood that work ethic. I don't know if it translated early on when you guys were in your sports journey,

but that had been a very positive influence on you guys. Oh, tremendously. My dad and my mom as well. My mom made sure that everything was taken care of outside of the athletic world. But really inside the athletic world, because she was making sure we had lunch. She was making sure we had that snack in between games. She was making sure we were on time to our practices. our games and she was dealing with five kids at one time and making sure we got to every single practice on time

and that, you know, that we gave it our best effort as well at practices or whatever game that we were playing. And then my father, he introduced us to the weight room and he told us at a young age, hey, if you want to make it to the next level, if you want to, you know, be one of the best author out on the field, well, you got to hit the weight room and you got to build up your body and you got to be stronger and faster than the other kids out there. And how do you know, how you're going to be stronger. you become stronger and faster than the other kids out there, well, you've got to earn it and you got to work at it. And it all starts here in the wait room. So my dad introduced us to the wait room.

And my mom was our support staff, you know, like I said, fueling our bodies out and making sure we're getting to everywhere we needed to get to on time. And then the competition was right in front of my face, my brothers, on any day basis. So, you know, it was built at a young age. And I contribute a lot of my success. I contribute a lot of my success, you know, to my childhood. Especially with the mentality of the game of football, you've got to be mentally tough

to be able to take the beatings that you take out on the football field. And I was taking beating since I was two years old, like no other. I mean, I was a troublemaker. So my brother that was two years older than me was always pounding on me. But Gore was six years older than me, so we really didn't have a crossover because that's just too big of a gap, like at that age. but Chris, two years older in me and Dan, four years older than me. I always try to get under his nerves,

and he always just came at me and beat the crap out of me and gave me like literally 5,000 Charlie horses throughout my childhood. So when I got to the NFL, those hits were like nothing because I was taking hits since I was two years old, four years old, in the basement playing mini sticks or just fighting in the family room with our family. So that mentality started young, and then, you know, you got to contribute that to, you know, my parents and my brothers. Thank you, guys.

That was great. It's funny because, like, as, you know, the audience is watching and listening, it's, it's very simple to see what's really at play. It's like a process because you talked about your career. You talked about Coach Belichick and Brady and all the leaders that you played with. There was a process every single day. There was, there was the greatness that was out there on the field and you had to prepare for everything that you hadn't seen yet. So your parents were preparing that, preparing you guys for that from an early age. So when you got to college and you got to the professional world, it's just second nature to you at that point.

You know, it wasn't second nature like that, you know, in a way it was. But when you get to the NFL and the pro ranks, I mean, it amps up to a whole another level because everyone in the NFL and in the pro, you know, pro leagues has that ability. Yeah. You know, they all have the same background. They all know how to adjust on the fly. They're all pros. They're all fast.

They're all strong. Everyone's big in the NFL. I mean, I'm huge. And like I can stand next to someone else and I could look like a tiny, you know, running back. Yeah, I would look like you standing next to me. Exactly. But if I stand next to someone else, you know, I could look tiny.

And I could also look huge standing next to a running back in the NFL. But everyone has a trait that makes them special in the league. And you just got to, you know, use that trait to the best of your ability to and make it stand out as well. And mine, I would say, yes, like I said, I can make myself look small. standing next to a lineman. But if I'm out there, you know, going against linebackers or DBs or safeties, I'm still way bigger than everyone. That's my skill set that I used when I learned as a kid and it contributes going way back, you know, to when my dad got me in the wait room saying, hey,

if you want to dominate, if you want to be better than everyone, you got to, you know, apply yourself in the weight room because then you can be stronger, bigger, and faster than everyone. and that life lesson there in seventh grade contributed all the way to the NFL because I was bigger than basically everyone that I went against in the passing game I wouldn't say faster

but I learned how to use my skills you know I learned how to use my size and the strength to get open versus someone that was faster than me so it goes all the way way and you know it goes way back to you know just being a young buck it really does and establishes there big time

It's really cool because you mentioned everybody has their own gift, right? That's what we're hinting at. Yours was your size, your athletic ability and things that nature. And we live in a world of comparison now, right? And so if you could tell the audience and give them one piece of advice on to, you know, find out who you are, truly who you are, whether you're, and, you know, we're here in a medical conference, right? If you're a medical company, if you're an athlete. But that one special thing for you, how to stay within that scope and not compare yourself. to others. Well, you know, that is a great point. I mean, especially with social media,

all the pictures and everything, everyone tries to compare to what's going on, to what you're seeing, you know, on that Instagram picture or whatever they're saying out there on Twitter or X or whatever it is. And everyone's comparing themselves to that. But, you know, that's really not the case, like how it shouldn't go about, you know. It's good to see other people have success and everything. But to compare yourself and feel like you need to be the best thing, standard, you know, isn't truly appropriate. I mean, you got to find that will that you have. You got to find that trait that you have that stands out, you know, that no one else has. And like you said, mine was being bigger than everyone and using my size, which I did.

I mean, without my size, my skill sense then. Like, it only makes sense because of my size, so I knew how to use my size to my ability. And Tom always said that too. Hey, you want to get open this guy. He's like, I'm not going to throw it to you. If you're, you know, if you're trying to be faster running the guy. He goes, I can tell you're trying to be faster than the guy. That doesn't work out. I won't throw you the ball because he's going to make an interception. He goes, but if you're using your skill set, you're using your body to get open,

well, then guess what? The speed doesn't matter because then the guy can't get around you. But when I'm trying to outrun him, he's going to outrun me because I'm not using my body. He's like, use your body. I'll throw you the ball every time. You're open every single play. So then therefore, you know, I'm not comparing myself to the guy that's running a four. 4-4 anymore. Because I was comparing myself, oh, I wish I was running a 4-4, but really I was never

going to, but I was comparing myself to him because I wanted to be like that. But I truly found my own, you know, special trait and that's just my size, using the body. And everyone else, too, that's out there, no matter whatever job or business that you're doing, find that little, you know, special gift that you're given and apply it to the world. And don't really compare yourself. I mean, it's good to, you know, learn from other people, but you got to find that one thing within you that's special and apply it to life. Love it, man. That's great.

I'm, you know, I'm drinking these course lights. I'm on fire right now. You know, I'm really, I'm really, I'm really thinking. The chorus light, cold as Rockies, what can I say? It's the coldest. I want a phone call. Yeah, these are great. You mentioned.

They make me feel like a genius, like Einstein right now. Robert Einstein. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Freaking crack up, dude. Good Lord. And I only had three quarters of one.

Three quarters of one. Yeah. And so. Freak it out, man. Cracking gut, dude. That's what happened when you go sober for a little bit. Yeah. Gorman went, no, with three quarters of beer.

He'd be like, give me test water. Give me tequila. Yeah. It's like a breakfast for Gordy. Three quarter, yeah. Three quarters, I'm like, it's like a protein shape. I'm a genius. Check his ice shaker.

That's why I only drink them when I work. See? People think I party. I don't party. I only party when I work. See? Yeah. A lot, baby.

Yeah. We're working a lot. Genius. When you were talking about the, when Tom Brady said, hey, I can tell you trying to be faster to that, everybody. Was that more so your rookie year? Because I can remember, I think one of the first shows you did on your show, right, dudes on dudes was you were talking about the things that Brady was saying, like,

gotta get around that guy. I'm never going to throw you the freaking ball. Like, was that it? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, definitely applies to those situations, especially in my rookie year because rookie year, I was 20, 21 years old. I think you, you know, I knew it all and all that good stuff. And you're not really listening to anyone.

Oh, I made it to the NFL. You know, you're worried about other things, which is so stupid to tell you the truth. As a rookie, you should really be just applying yourself to the game and your craft. And it would just make you that much better, which I was. But as a rookie, you know, I was still kind of all over the place. But, like, truly didn't understand either, you know. That's part of the process is when you're so young, it's like telling a kid. Like, you're a year old kid.

like you tell him that something 50 times they just don't understand that's where I was at you know at 21 years old I just didn't understand what exactly he wanted um and then as over time that's why he was so great because he was a consistent coach and was always on top of it wasn't like he said it one time and like I should have picked it up you know he saw and he saw I wasn't catching on and would keep applying it to me hey use your body you're not going to outrun guys make sure you take this type of angle make sure you have this type of release in the outside or it's inside or whatever it is and that's going to get you open because you just don't have that speed and but you have other traits that will get you open so then you know after rookie year you know it takes a couple times to get burnt to get covered um have some bad plays and that boom you start picking it up and you start those consequences stack up and you say okay that's what he's talking about exactly that's kind of those losses that we talk about those failures right it's like you have to have those along the way because that's what makes the player that's what makes the professional.

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Visit good to know facts.org. It's interesting because when we look at rookies now, and I have a question, it's a burning question, because there's some reports that kind of came out. Like I saw like some posts about Travis Hunter demanding, like, I want to play both ways or I'm not playing football. What has social media and NIL done? And not just Travis Hunter, just in general, but like, specifically,

but in general. Because I feel like back in your heyday, you're like, hey, I'm going to go play football. I'm excited. Now it's like, I want X, Y, Z. Yeah, I mean, it's just a whole different era and you got to adjust to the era. So, I mean, it's just, it is what it is now. If you ask me, I would have never want to, you know, I would have never wanted to grow up in that era, definitely in college. I just got out of college where it was like the social media and cameras all over the place and thank God because I would have never be on the L. I wouldn't be sitting here with you.

Everyone would have been torched. And you really think about it. Now you're like, that kind of blows, like everything's on camera now when you're in college. Like the superstars can't go anywhere. Like any NFL player, any college player that's pretty decent at a high program, you can't probably go to any party or anything and just live a normal life. And when you're that age, you know, I'm thankful that I didn't really, you know, come onto the scene until like 22, 23 years old, 24 years old. Because like, like, I was way too young.

I wouldn't have been able to handle situations, especially just thinking about, out of two going out like at 18, 19 years old, you just want to live a normal life. Like I don't want to be in the spotlight. Yeah. And I feel like I came in the spotlight at the right time in my life where I kind of knew how to handle it. You know, things were getting thrown my way. I was old enough now and mature enough now. But NIA, it's great. I think there needs to be a handle on it as well. There's going to have to be like a salary cap or something. Free, man. There's going to have to be an even playing field eventually. I feel like they're just dipping their toes in the water right now and it's all getting, you know, felt out, like,

you know, how it's all going to play out, you know, in the year or two. But I think there's going to have to be some more rules applied, especially to the transfer portal as well. I think it's too crazy. There's so weird shit going on with that, man, like the dude from Tennessee. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, I think it's good for the players. I just think it needs to be adjusted a little bit, which it will be because it's new and fresh. And once it gets adjusted and the rules start to be implied, like, I think I think it would be good. It's kind of, it's basically, it's basically, be like the minor leagues of the NFL. Yeah.

And I mean, these kids are bringing in thousands and actually millions of dollars to these, you know, universities. So, yeah, I mean, pay them. I mean, Ohio State, they sell 110,000 tickets a game. Like, and the players were getting nothing before, I mean. That's the tip of the iceberg.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. You know, because you have the merge. You have everything else. Exactly. I agree. I think, you know, when NIL kind of came, we're like all excited about it, but wait, what's going to happen with it? And now we're starting to see, in my opinion, the ugly part and to what you're saying is like, hey, let's readjust this a little bit.

It needs to be modified. And there's a lot more ugly that's not really showcased. I mean, yeah, they showcase that guy got $5 million to transfer to this school. That guy just transferred and got this much and all that. But like there's a lot of ugly underneath it as well. A lot of guys transferring. And once you transfer, you lose your scholarship to that school, almost if they give it back to you. They transfer and then boom, no one picks them up thinking, you know, that they're ahead of the

game or they're better than what they really are. And then they try to go back to the college. You're like, no, what's good now. They don't even have a scholarship anymore. So, you know, it's a two-way street. And that's the ugliness about it too. So just make sure you're in the right situation. If you are going to enter that portal and you are going to transfer. That's good advice for the college athletes because they get on the show, right, in the determined society, we like to get real life examples of things that are going on, right? And how people can get better in their life. And it's funny because I look at what, happened to the Tennessee quarterback.

Like, there's some stuff going on right now that he's not getting what he had at Tennessee. You know, I'm not really sure what's going on in that situation. I just saw like a headline not too familiar with it, so I don't want to go in depth about it. Sure. But I really can't comment on it because I just saw a headline like the Tennessee quarterback is not the quarterback of Tennessee anymore. And that's all I really know. I have no clue why.

I have no clue what the background, the history is and all that. but, you know, so can't really go too far into that when you don't know the detail. So I'm going to have to look into that one. Look into it. I don't know the full details either other than the fact that, you know, like he had a certain amount. He left for more and he's not getting it. Like the bigger SEC schools aren't contacting him. It's the schools like UCLA and he's like, well, wait a second, right?

So anyway, you know, as you transition from your career, right? You know, I play baseball at LSU. I didn't go quite as far as obviously as you. did, but that was a big part of my identity. And one of the biggest things I've noticed with you and your whole family is, is you guys transition really well to the next part of life. You know, how, how, but on the inside, though, right? How, how was it when you transition from, you know, Rob Bernkowski, the football player to entrepreneur and Fox analyst? Well, I'm in a different situation than a lot of players. I was already doing a lot of things while I was playing too,

and a lot of things were just coming to me. So, like, it made that transition process a lot easier. Like, I was already shooting commercials while I was playing. And I always like to do that, all that, in the off-season, just to make sure it wasn't a distraction while you're playing in-season because you truly need your full, you know, focus on the football, on the game of football when you're playing in-season. Right.

So, but off-season, I was doing appearances already commercial. all that good stuff. So when football was over, I kind of already got the gist of what to do. So things were coming to me naturally still, and they knew the call me because I knew how to handle those situations, what to do on set,

and what to do outside of football on a stage, you know? So that was just through the process of growing. And I was fortunate enough to be able to do that while playing and also get the opportunities after football too. Because a lot of players, we were athletes our whole entire lives. And then all of a sudden, sudden, you know, 30 years after, you know, you're 30 years old, you've been playing sports

for 25 years old, you know, since you're five years old, so you're playing for 25 years and boom, you're just cut off and it's gone and you have no clue what to do. And there's no opportunities coming your way, nothing like that. And it can be a tough situation. It can be dark. And there's a lot of growing pains. I mean, I even went through growing pains, even though things were coming to me, you know, just naturally and coming to me like crazy and opportunities were coming. But, you know, you just miss that competitiveness. Yeah. That's what you truly miss as an athlete. And the guys, man. The guys, the guys, being around the guys, just having that locker room talk and just competing on a daily basis at that high of a level, you know,

mentally and physically, you just can't get that drive. And you just got to find ways, you know, to get that feeling, you know, after the game of football. Do you find opening new businesses, like you recently opened Greenlight, right? Do you find, like, when you opened, new things like that. It's a new challenge and you get that kind of, does, does a little bit of a feeling come out through that? It really does because it takes a team to, you know, accomplish a mission to accomplish success. And we have a great team around us with Green Lane. And why I love it so much is that, you know, it fits the mold of myself too. It's a, it's a quick service restaurant and it's just a drive-through, you know, drive-thru restaurant only as well. I mean, it's not,

what do you call that one? It's not a restaurant. It's not a restaurant. It's a drive-th-th. It's a drive-thru. It's a drive-thru. And you get wraps and salads for under $10. Dude, it's healthy stuff. And it's healthy. And it fits my mold. I love being healthy.

I love working out still. Love being active. And you got to fuel your body with the right nutrition in order to keep going on a daily basis. And Green Lane offers that. It really does. And just to be a part of it and just to see Green Lane grow, you know, it makes you feel accomplished, you know. And it makes you want to keep going. It gives you something.

to look forward to as well. And it's just that drive, that passion for something. And just to have that team around us, too, that created the concept of Green Lane. And to help and to have me come in and just to help build it, especially in the city where I won a Super Bowl in Tampa. It's fun. And every time we open up a new store, you thrive off of it. It's sick, man. Like, I want to touch on that because, you know, you left New England, right?

after much success. And you go to Tampa, you do it with Brady, you guys do it again. How cool was that moment? Because to do it in the dynasty, that's one thing, right? But going to a completely different organization,

year one, blocking it down. It was nuts that that happened and occurred. I mean, in order to come out of retirement, too, every situation just had to be right. And everything checked out. It really did.

I love Florida. I always vacation there. my mom lived two hours away in Fort Myers, so she got to come to every single game. The organization as well wanted me. Yes, Tom wanted me to go down there, but the organization, the Tampa Bay organization wanted me as well

when I made that phone call over there or my agent made that phone call, and they're like, yes, we'll take you on as well. Let's get this trade to happen. I was like, oh, this is great. Like, you know, it's not just Tom, it's the organization. So it felt warming to me to go down there. And also I was ready to play football.

again. I felt like I had a little bit left in the tank, and that was what was most important. It was feeling like you had a little bit left in the tank. And so everything, you know, checked out. The situation was right. And then just to go down there, I thought success would just be making the playoffs, you know, with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They haven't made the playoffs in 12 years. I mean, just to be a piece of it, just to take them to the next level, you know, was a thrill, it was just an honor. And then we ended up winning the Super Bowl, which was just... Fucking wild. Miraculous. Yes. It really was. I mean, it was just a change of events for the whole entire city.

And it was just awesome. I wouldn't say that, you know, it was my best Super Bowl, like, as in ranking them. Yeah. Because the very first one was definitely by the best one when we beat the Seattle Seahawks. Yeah. Because it was one of the best games and it was, you know, my first Super Bowl won. But that one was up there with it. And just to go to a whole new program, you know, not really, not dominate,

but to make a nice impact, you know, on the field off. the field in the community, I won a Super Bowl, man, I couldn't have about anything. It's a win. Another ring. Big win and another ring. Yes, exactly. Add it to the showcase. Let's do it.

I want to be respectful of your time. I want to ask you one more question. Let's do it. The show is called The Determined Society. So what does true determination mean to you? Oh, man. True determination. I mean, depending on, you know, what your goals are.

depending on, you know, what you're trying to accomplish. You know, determination, though, I would say just as a whole, you know, the easy concept in my mind that's going on is getting the job done, you know, determining that you're going to get the job done too and being there for your teammates and doing the best that you can on a daily basis, you know, and making that mindset, you know, know, know, before, you know, anything can be even accomplished. You've got to determine that you're going to get it done.

And if that's not in your mind, you know, then nothing's going to, you know, flourish at all. So make sure you know and that you have that will to want it. And once you have that will and that determination to want it, you can go and get it. And that's how determination kind of flourishes, I feel like. Love it. You said the best, man. Ladies and gentlemen, please go share the. this episode with some that you know love and trust. Let us know what you loved about it.

Listen to it over and over again. There was a lot of amazing things that Gronk mentioned in this episode that you can use to get better every single day in your craft. And until next time, stay determined. delivers it to your door, expertly cleaned and folded. So you could take the time once spent folding and sorting and waiting to finally pursue a whole new version of you. Like tea time you. Or this tea time you. Or even this tea time you. Said you hear about Dave? Or even tea time, tea time, tea time you. Mmm. So update on Dave. It's up to you. We'll take the laundry. Rinse. It's time to be great.