Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - Taking Chances & Grinding Away with Matt Ferranti

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

Matt Ferranti, a multi-talented entertainer, guitarist, and songwriter, knows the importance of hard work and taking advantage of every opportunity. Hailing from Bay City, Michigan, Ferranti grew up performing contemporary Christian music at his Dad’s church before developing his signature blend of Country fused with Detroit R&B. With a move to Nashville in 2013, Ferranti quickly made a name for himself grinding away at songwriter sessions and performance rounds that included a chance meeting with an up-and-coming singer/songwriter, Brett Young, who asked Ferranti to come play guitar at his show that weekend. Five years later, Ferranti is still an integral member of Young’s band but also performs as a solo act in direct support on the sold-out world tour. Between headlining gigs and opening on Young’s tour, Ferranti is introducing a new vibe of Country music combining sultry lyrics, clever hooks, and personal storytelling. Key Topics: The Brett Young Band How we met Covid and how it haulted his solo career Matt's venture out on his own The creative process Relationship with Brett Young Brett Young showing grace Taking a chance on himself Becoming a father Life on the road Becoming a father Setting the example for his child His tour and where you can see him How to connect with Matt   Connect with Matt: Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/mattferrantimusic/ Website- https://www.mattferranti.com/#video Connect with Shawn: Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/theshawnfrench/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/theshawnmfrench?lang=en Website- https://theshawnfrench.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

afraid of him, but I knew that it was, I knew the time was coming, right? And me and Brett had a whole, I'll kind of give a little rundown, right? I met him in 2014, end of it. My buddy, my buddy Fillmore, who's another country artist, was filling in on guitar for him, right? So you just, we're all just young, you know, kind of dudes running around playing. And he couldn't do it. And really, I played a show with him in Nashville, and he was like,

Yo, Fillmore can't play? Can you hop in to play guitar with me next weekend in Atlanta or something? What is up, everybody? Welcome back to another show of The Determined Society with me today, guys. I have an amazing guest, as always. This one hits a little different. I met, well, I didn't meet this gentleman at the event, but I went to a concert with my wife.

It was a country singer. I'm not going to name him yet, but he has a song that really stuck with my wife and I as we were early on in our relationship. And I'll say this song right now. It's in case you didn't know. There was a specific day that I was riding around in my truck, talking to my now wife. And she says,

if you really want to know how I feel about you, listen to this song. And I never heard it before. But it really connected with me. And it stuck with me. And it's been our guy. But that's not who's on the show tonight. And that's okay.

I'm super happy to have this man, Matt Ferranti with us. He grew up in a church in a church band. And then he began out, you know, seeing country music. And this is our first country recording artists, y'all, and a damn good one. He was with the Brett Young band for eight years. And he's now touring solo. And I can't wait to see him in person.

Everybody, welcome at Fronty to the show. Everybody, thanks for having me. Sean. I appreciate you just so much, man. It's been a bit of pleasure. We've been chatting about it for forever. But it's nice to kind of finally culminating you on the show, man. Thanks for having.

No, dude, it's really cool, man. Listen, my wife and I, our thing is concerts. We really connect with just the atmosphere. We have certain people that we really love to go and watch. And when we were in the concert, it was in Tallahassee, you know, that small show. You guys at the amphitheater. I was finding a way to kind of get close and, like, take my wife to the concert. And I saw Tallahassee.

It was super small. We were right up front. And I told you this the other day. And I said to my wife, I'm like, dude, that guy right there, man, he's going to be big. And she goes, what are you talking about? I'm like, dude, that guy. Like, not Brett. Like that guy.

So I really enjoyed listening to you open for Brett and just your energy. You can tell you have passion for the music. And you just weren't there to perform a show. You know what I'm saying? Like you were fully invested. It's in your DNA. And the thing that I love most, I'm like, I'm going to shoot this guy, follow. And then, you know, you don't ever really hear back from people sometimes.

and I'm sure there's people listening right now. They go, Sean, I never heard back from you. Well, listen here, motherfuckers. The reason why you haven't heard back from me is because you messaged me trying to sell me some stupid shit. All right. But, you know, I sent him a personal message. Like, hey, man, saw you in Tallahassee. I really enjoyed you.

He said, thank you. Shot me a follow back. And like, here we are. Like, it was a year ago that that concert. Oh, we've been talking about it for that long. Dang, that's crazy. I think, you know, dude, I don't know if we've been talking about having you on the show for a year, but I know the show was about

that long. Okay. Okay. Yeah, but I mean, we've been kind of, you know what, dude, time flies. We might have been. We might have been talking it for that long, man. Like, time flies. So, man, I was just, you know, I'm super happy to have you on, dude. So. Yes, sir, man. I'm glad to be here, bro. Oh, yeah. If you guys are watching on video, he has a Detroit Tigers mug. It was made one of one and a hat as well. Been a hat. Big fan. My man's from Michigan. My man's from Michigan. So, dude, again, let's dive into it, dude.

You are now, are you still touring with Brett? Are you mostly now just doing your solo? So basically I came to him. I actually, I forget him the day. I came to him. It was kind of terrifying, honestly. I mean, not that I was afraid of him, but I knew that it was, I knew the time was coming, right? And me and Brett had a whole, I'll kind of get a little rundown, right?

I met him in 2014, end of it. my buddy, my buddy Fillmore, who's like country artist, was filling in on guitar for him, right? So you just, we're all just young, you know, kind of dudes running around playing. And he couldn't do it. And literally, I played a show with him in Nashville. And he was like, yo, Fillmore can't play?

Can you hop in to play guitar with me next weekend in Atlanta or something? I was like, yeah, dude, sick, let's go. And it was like years and years and years later, like, you know, I just left in January. But yeah, like right around the time my baby was born, which I wouldn't suggest quitting your job and having a child in the same fiscal part of the year, right? I wouldn't know that's just that anyone.

I'm not. But they were so gracious through it. But, you know, we've been talking about for a couple of years. Like in 2020, jump ahead now, all these years of touring, 2020 comes around and he's like, yo, end of 2019, sorry. He's like, yo, like, your songs are getting better and better. Your voice is getting better and better. Like, I see you just kind of a churn as a man.

And I think you can hold some pressure on them shoulders of yours, bro. I think it's time for you to start singing your own songs. And I was like, yeah, like, sure, dude. Yeah, man. I've always been thinking about it. Never really had someone, like, come alongside, like, and be like a champion, like, directly like that ever. My parents have always been, you know what I'm saying?

have great parents ministers as you'd said um but but this you know as in the big leagues in the big boy shit right this is like i never had no one come around side of me and like really kind of help mentor me whatever bro we got a record done he co-produced my first record he got me with jimmy robbins who's a big producer in town um he's got cuts up left and right up and down whole city block um and we were ready we were ready to go to like to sierrex on the highway or like other kind of independent radio stations or whoever we could get to listen. And then quarantine happened, right? So quarantine, that's a lot of people's business.

Same with me, you know, and it kind of felt. There were times where it felt like I wasn't going to get that shit back. It was not. It was like, man, I worked my whole damn life all these years, all these lessons. Like, you know, it started to compile a little bit. When it comes to what your family eats and drinks, you know your choices matter. You're the expert. because you know what fits your life.

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But me and Brett thought it was going to happen a certain way. And the world gave us lemons and we had to fucking, we had to pivot. You know, we had to pivot and start changing our mindset up. So it was hard to come to him because I wasn't coming to him, knowing I was going to ask him to leave with how I thought I was going to leave. We both thought like I was going to sign a record. deal and that was gonna I was hey man I signed with Warner or I sign a car or I sign it or I sign here I got to leave bro I'm sorry like that's how we thought it was

coming and it didn't happen that way you know so I just had to make a decision I had a kid coming I was like yo I got to it was time for for little bird to get out the nest and start flapping his damn wings and that's I just had to make it call the shot you know I basically put in my like my months notice at the end of the year Brett was gracious enough and paid me until February, like, just because he's a G, just because he's a homie. And, uh, and yeah, bro, it's been preparation mode ever since, you know, it's been pivoting from what it was to what it is. You know, the tricks that I was doing back then don't work now in the city when I'm doing city life every day. Um, and I'm trying to be a dad and I'm trying to be a good husband still.

And I'm trying to be presence and everything that I do. And, uh, so it's been crazy. But, but, but, I can't say nothing, but great things about Brett and what he did for me and my career. I still think I've got a little bit more of the ladder to climb, if you will, but I don't think we have, I don't think we're done touring together. I feel like at some point in time, we're going to link back up. And, you know, I got to go accomplish some things, you know, in the meantime. But I know it. That's how close we are, bro.

And the whole team, they're my brothers, man. I've been, I've been with you for so long. Dude, that's really great to hear, man. The fact that he's that gracious to pay you through February. especially when, you know, it didn't look like the exit didn't look like it was what you guys thought it was going to. And it's funny to hear this because, you know, there's a, you know, a lot of people look at public figures like yourself and Brett and just whoever's in the public eye. And they don't really understand that y'all go through the same shit that we go through on a daily basis. It's just may look a little bit different, right?

The thing that I love about this story, though, and it's, and I'm so grateful that you're, that you're on the show. because this show is where stories of determination lie, bro. Like, this is it. Right? And so, I followed you instantly because I all said, oh,

and I saw what you were promoting. That's why I love to be a part of it, bro, and I'm glad to be here. But just, you know, that's amazing. Yeah,

we're determined. That's how it is. It's like, yep. Yeah. You get down, he's back up and all that shit. It just never works out.

Like, and that's the thing that I want the audience to understand is like, dudes like you and, and everybody out there in the public, like, go through moments. where they think something's going to happen. They think they're going to ascend.

And then something completely uncontrollable happens. And then now what? The biggest thing that we can do is respond, not react, right? A lot of times we can get in that panic mode. And I can't even imagine how hard it was for you. Let's walk the audience through that hard decision. Because like you said, I do not recommend quitting your job a month before you have a kid. It's your first child, right?

Yeah, first. Yeah, first one. Bro, that's, that's, that takes balls, man. Like, and I commend you for that. They're living out your dream. Walk, walk us through that process that you went through. You know, I wrestled with it for a long time just because, because, you know, without leaving for a record deal, right?

Or something similar. Distribution deal, have what you'd be, fill in the blank. It's like, like, you know, I'm, the blessing, the other side of it is is that I'm, you know, play in front of three, five, eight, ten, twenty thousand people every single night. I'm meeting like all of the live nation reps around. I'm meeting other guys as tour managers, other guys as content people. Like I get to travel on a million dollar bus. I can write songs or whatever I want like I, like I, I kind of had it set up to where I

could do whatever I wanted. Okay. So it was hard. It was hard, but then I realized that it came with the lid, that whole thing. even though I had the amenities to like, you know, it's like, it's like tricking out your, your, your, your summer home, right? When you're at your summer home, you can go down your Peloton bike, but maybe when you're at the vacation, you just want to crack a bear and just sit there.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, and I'm not saying that's how it was, you know, all the way around, but, you know, it's, it's, I kind of, basically it came with that lid and I had to understand like, yo. like I have to live within my means I can't have a summer home I have to have I have to have fortifies my my home here in my center and that was it and that made it abundantly aware of the decision I had to make if I'm going to look at this little dude coming in the face with with any conviction about chasing anything this is the time to do it and it was in it because if I

stayed anymore with that lid that i maybe it was even self you know it was my own lid maybe that's what it was i'm not saying it was like brett was you know anybody else helped me back it's like once i got over myself really whatever it was i like i like i needed to really just give 100% in my own stuff and i feel like that passionate conversation is what he heard and and he was like did i get i guess you bro like had it go with blessings man and i was like dude this this right yeah that dude that fucking meta The summer home is, guys, for you, they're listening or having a hard time deciphering. I hope not because you guys are all smart.

That's why you listen to this show and watch the show. That is a metaphor of, hey, get out of your comfort zone. Like you were too comfortable in that area to grow personally and in your own music, in your own style. And like you said, you know, certain tricks that were working aren't working anymore. You had to revamp or just completely renovate yourself to a point where you were proud of that man that you are jay little boy coming like and how can i how can and that's something guys that fathers go through and say how can i look at my child or my children's i have three now like how can i look at my children if i don't go chase this because my decisions don't affect just me they it's a ripple

effect to my wife and my three children it is not about me anymore and now guess what it's not about just you. So I mean, like, dude, that, that is an awesome story because there's a lot of people

that get to that point right there, bro, and say, fuck it. And they lay off the gas and they just say, dude, I'm eating filet mignon every night.

I'm on Brett Young's fucking bus. Like, I mean, like, like, dude, I am, there doesn't get any better.

Right? So, you know, let's talk about the contrast now, right? So now you're, you're, you're going to do in your gigs.

How, when you initially made that move, And you started playing in your own shows and doing your own thing. What was some of the underlying variables that you went through? Like, oh, my God. Like, this isn't what I'm used to. And how'd you get through it? You know, some days, some days, the answers are complicated.

Sometimes I use, I can use the metaphors. This is kind of simple. Now, I've just been running, dude. I've been running for a long, long, long. I'm a runner, but I'm a grinder. I'm just like, uh, like, I'm more like I don't know what to do with my hands and I sit still for too long time.

Like a Ricky Bobby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like fucking near. So just the flexibility of my own schedule has always been something that I've kind of craved because that was either for my own shows or that was even for vacation with my wife or that was for kids' birthdays now,

like any of those little important things that as a tour of musicians and that's what most people don't know either. like sometimes you got to miss that you miss that on important stuff when when someone else is paying the bills and all of a sudden you have a show in australia yeah you got to make up for it with little you know with my kid you know and i hadn't had to do that yet and if i had to i would because that's what it takes and you know it's i get it but yeah um um but i mean to your point yeah to your point though like that's the thing it's like when you have your own schedule now right you don't you know you're you're the you're the you're the captain

of your own seat now. So, you know, there's going to be days when, you know, later on down the road, you know, hopefully really, really soon that you are that person on that million dollar bus and it is your tour. Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah. And then, yeah, but until then, like, just the being home acclimating to like almost

normal, normal day at life. That's really been the hardest point. And that's, you know, that tour guy living out of a suitcase coming home that like a very, now all of a sudden my suitcase hasn't been put away for two months my wife's like dude you're going to you're live bro put that away hey you can shit you can set that shit in the attic now motherfucker you don't need that you're you're here you're here homie yeah i get that man you know it's funny because even when i go on a trip for work and i come back you know it's always hard for me to put my suitcase away i can't even imagine the difference in lifestyle and just the mindset shift that it

takes because like let's be honest you're married you have a child coming but you're touring so sometimes it's almost like a long distance relationship and you're completely disconnected with what's going on at home and then when you get there it's a culture shock not just for you but her as well right like so yeah do that that that that's an adjustment that was even just marginally you know getting as her being pregnant still touring like she was pregnant like i just had my kid and uh within a couple weeks Maybe in two weeks. I had to go on like a 24-day trip to Europe with bread. There's like my last like little haul.

So I only saw them for like a week and a half. Oh, damn. So luckily mother-in-law is like the whole family. They helped out and made sure it was. But that's, you know, that's, that was the hardest point. Now, it's been great getting into a system. I love structure. Okay.

I'm my best self when I'm operating in all cylinders. And that comes with just everything being kind of line. up. I'm not just, you know, like a, you can't just wake up and drink jet fuel and be a jet, bro. I got to, I got to just prepare. I got to be in my shit. So, so now it's like my son gets, you know, I'm up at 6, 45 every day, get my mornings with him, kind of get my mind right, start attacking stuff around 9, 30, 10 o'clock in the morning, either leave for co-writes. I'll get done around 2.30, 3 o'clock. I'll either come home and chill and be a dad, or I'll to go play gigs and I'll rinse and repeat man all week and either will go play shows on weekends

or I'll just be dad and let mom go to work and then it's great because I get I feel like I'm whooping so much more ass now you know well you are because then this is the one thing that I think a lot of people miss dude and this is why I always say success leaves close right and for those you that are listening and watching is the fact that he's talking about a schedule a regimen a process whatever the fuck you want to call it, his standard, his core responsibilities. Like, if you were just listening, he just read out his whole day. What he was going to do at 645 to 9 and from 9 to whatever. So, you know, there's a lot of people out there that say they can't get organized.

What would you tell those people? You know, he's the thing. He's asked for help, man. Because there's got to be somebody around you that's better at it than you are that can help, contribute at some capacity to help make you better even if it's just sending reminders on your phone there there's different tricks of the trade depending on you know I'm super ADHD bro and they told me when I that when I was a kid

why don't you why doesn't he paying attention to photosynthesis I was like bro because I just don't give a shit about it fuck about it I'm trying to play my saxophone bro leave me alone exactly that's been funny shit dude I'm I'm my wife always loves a point out Well, it's because you have, you know, you have your ADHD. Like, I understand. I understand. But when I go for something, I'm hyper focused on it, right?

And that's just the thing. I always ask myself, and I don't know if you have a touch of this too. When I sit there and I'm like having to edit or getting to edit one of my episodes, there always comes a time in that process where I'm like, I really don't want to edit this. Yeah. I'm really not that good at editing. But I tell myself, well, until this gets to a point where it's so big and I have a team doing this shit for me, I need to operate like a top. Yeah. Point zero zero one percent podcast.

I need to operate. Like what would Joe Rogan do right now? Yeah. What would Andy Fricela do right now? If they had to literally edit their own show, would they bitch about it or they do it? And so I'd have to think like when you're sitting there because there's got to be those days. not everybody's going to wake up every day and want to do the work, man. Like it's just not, we are not wired for that.

We are not wired for risk. We are wired to like say fuck it and survive and retreat, right? And then we have to mentally reprogram ourselves to push through those days that we don't want to do those things. Talk to us about that. Like, do you have those days where you just don't want to and you still find a way to get it done? Yes. I normally find those days come after I either over-exert myself and don't take care of myself. Those two things are done for like together an extended period of time.

Bro, you'll be amazed what, like, a liquid IV thing does in a good night's sleep. I mean, that goes a long way, right? I mean, waking up with fog, there's different reasons why you don't want to do something. And it's rarely because it's lost. It's luster. I've been playing music my whole life. Some days I don't want to go play. a four-hour gig because my voice is tired from beating it up all weekend.

Because I don't want to go play four hours with the music. It's like, so then I have to learn how to correct my schedule, right? Because now I think, okay, I can't be letting my coworkers down like this if I show up. Yeah. I'm prepared and can't sing. I got to. So then it becomes like, you know, just chiseling away little things that you regiment to like find little pockets of flex here and there.

And again, that helps make me efficient. That's why I can be a good dad. whatever, but it wasn't easy, man. It's like, that's also what Brett Young touring is how it made me do. You live off a master tour, right? Master tour is the scheduling. You know, the bus get there, 8 o'clock in the morning. Breakfast is at 9.30, this and that.

Like, you kind of pick and choose your day. You figure out what your path is, but it's all the same shit, right? Yeah. And, uh, yeah, man. I mean, I just think that's it. If I'm chasing, chasing structure isn't a bad thing. It, like it, especially now, you have, if, say, your alarms. I worked off alarms before I even figured out what Google alerts were.

You know what I'm saying? I was just like, oh, you know, I had a Wusa alarm on my phone for literally four years, literally. Just like, just to sit. Okay, breathe now. I'm sure you can imagine what time it was too. Yeah, I bet you. I bet maybe four or 20 or somewhere around there. Yeah. I respect it, dude, because, you know, structure is such, I think, I mean, kids and you and you'll find this man like you're probably already seen it with you boy how old is he now he'll help me nine months here yeah i was thinking coming on a year is you know they they they thrive off structure right you know whether it's a feeding structure nap structure you know same thing with adults right and professionals like if we don't have structure we kind of flail around in the wind

for me what you talked about is if you didn't take care of your night yourself the night before you know over exerted yourself for me like if i i can tell you right now if i have something to edit this Sunday, but I go out to a neighbor's house on Saturday and I get into deep with the 40s, because dude, I still drink 40s, bro. Like, I'm sorry. Like, I'm going to do that. You fucking like, hey, hey, you know, the old, the old Corona ones with the dark bottle. Yeah.

Dude, there's certain friends that I have that I'm going to enjoy a 40 or two with. Or maybe even more. Like, who am I lying? I'm just lying to guys. Oh, damn. I'll drink a 40 with you anytime, bro. We're going to get connected in person anyway. Yeah.

But like, we will do some 40s. But, you know, the next day, I won't want to do shit. Like, quite honestly, it does something to me to where I have to stay away from it at certain points in the time. I have to schedule it out. Like, okay, well, I probably shouldn't do that this weekend because I got this to do. Right. And we'll be in it, right? We'll be going hard.

My wife will go, remember you have to edit this show tomorrow. Remember you have this with the girls tomorrow. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, I'm fine. I'm fine. And then the next day, I'm like, oh, no,

some fucking shit. And it's not that often, bro, straight up, dude, I don't do that very often anymore. Special occasions. Like,

if you're in town or I'm, where you're at, like, I probably have about four or five 40s. I'm sorry. For those of you guys listening to me, look up to me and think I don't drink once in a while. You guys are crazy.

Yeah, dude. I think what else? It was a rant. Like, I have a rant. Like a lot of times, dude, like, and this is the thing. Like, for me, I'll go on these rants.

And, you know, at the beginning of my podcasting journey, like, when my guests would go on rants, like, I would, I would forget what I was going to say. So I had to, like, learn on how to retain information. But I just, it's just so funny because I can get lost in a thought in, in two seconds. It's just, it's gone. All of a sudden, the ring camera thing is like, oh, why is there? You know, okay, yeah. Yeah, dude.

I'm like, oh, wheredy, great. Yeah, dude, it's like fucking shiny objects and I'm done. I'm like chasing them. But, but dude, so talk to me, man. We're about a year deep on your solo journey. Yep. We were talking the other day and you're like, dude, I got some really cool stuff to talk about. I want the audience to hear what you have going on now and the amazing things going on in your music career.

Well, I think, I think even as I was trying to figure out how to promote myself, properly. You know, I look myself in the mirror every day and I know what I see and I believe in what I see, right? It's, it's, but sometimes the idea of holding another, like holding a phone and being like I was just, I was always kind of conditioned or like, you know, if let's say there's peer pressure when we were kids, right, I'm a little bit older than some cats. So yeah, be, you just had to be cool, right? Whether or like, who knows what that means, but like, like, like, to me, like, I didn't have to remind everyone that I was cool. You just were cool, right? And there's a lot of this culture that's just like, hey, man, let me tell you how cool I am real quick. Let me give you 15 seconds of coolness, right? I was and how I, who my friends would be raised right? It's not what we did. So, all of a sudden, getting off a tour, getting off this and like, I'm seeing everybody blow,

you know, like, and I'm saying this, uh, encouraging to them blow past me, but just like their socials blow up because they're putting time in to this, to this, to this. important new work from home platform yeah entertain people with and it was like and i did i feel like i was a little stubborn got a little left behind and had to eat my pride bro so now i feel like i'm trying to preach this grown man shit bro i'm trying to preach like like yo like the structure like like loving your son like do you know this just a beating good dude how do you be a good dude bro and you know this is the one thing growing up my dad being a minister was that it's kind of ministry-oriented but, you know, ministry and me

and everything they get along. I'm a little rough. You know what I'm saying? I love Jesus a lot. Sure, I bet. I do too. But like sometimes he's like looking at me and I'm like, bro, you made me.

Like you, you knew this was happening. Yeah. Like, is your fault, man. It's like, I'm like, you're welcome, sir. You're welcome. Yeah.

But like, you know, that's what, that's where I can be transparent online. It's not a need to be. trying to be cool. It's like, you know, there is about being like a, like, you know, it's not even tough guy, but it's like a bunch of tattoos, crazy looking dude, and I'm just singing pretty songs about structure in my wife, you know what I'm saying? I'll say, this is what is important to me. This is what is translating into be having success, and that's what I want to sing about, you know? And it's cool, bro, I'm writing a lot of cool songs. One of the biggest things I've got to do since

getting out of road with bread is just be focused on creating, right? Yeah. I'm a butterfly, bro. I'm, I'm like, I just want to create all the time, right? Yeah. And this was like that, all right, let's pour on structure to contain the creativity to like just, you know, force it. Basically, it's like, you're a swimmer, bro. And like, hey, don't come up for air for a couple months.

Just stay down and work, bro. And I was all right. So it's, it's, what is it? Today is the first. No, I think it's still the 31st. Okay, 31st. Yeah. And, you know, we got like 40 plus songs, bro.

Like our pace right now, we're looking at 100 songs this year, fully produced, fully done. Wow, dude. Right. And that is something I've never had in my entire life. Like is someone else, like this other team of creative people behind the computer that can help me make these ideas into stuff that can be eligible for highway play or whatever, you know. That's so cool, man. That's one of my favorite things I'm doing. It's just all these.

The shows are cool. I love playing shows. I love performing. That's easy, right? Mm-hmm. If I spend all my time doing the thing that comes easiest all the time, like, you know, I really put in time to work on stuff that I haven't been putting time into, like social media, like songwriting.

And now when I start releasing all this new stuff, you're going to see it all just kind of. I can't wait, man. I can't wait. And like, dude, to your point, like, you, you've never come off as too cool. You know what I mean? Like, you've, you've always been super personal. And I think, and I think, too, I mean, and we can talk about this, but there's a lot of people out there that, you know, have a lot of fame and I've done a lot of cool shit with cool people like yourself. And man, they're dicks. And I'm going to tell you, dude, I've done some cool things with some cool people too. I played, you know, baseball at the best baseball school in the United States of America, you know, at LSU. I play with big leaguers. You know, like, well, they, well, then they weren't obviously. But now they're, you know, former big leaguers, couple World Series champions. And they're good dudes, man. You know. It was actually funny.

I think I told you this yesterday. I played against Brett in college. Yeah, he was. He was a whole miss. Yeah, he was, man. He was just there.

I think earlier this year with coach Mike Bianco, he did some stuff there. And Bianco was a, he was a, he was an LSU catcher. Really? He played at LSU, man. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, man. It's just, it's so funny how like, you know, you have, the world is so big,

but it's so small. And, you know, told my buddy, I was like, hey, man, I got this awesome show tonight. Boy, Matt Ferranti. He's like, oh, what's his deal? I go, oh, he's a country artist. He was with Brett Young for years. He's like, who's Brett Young? I was like, bro.

Like, what are we talking about? Like, first of all, we played against him in college. He goes, oh, that dude, the pitcher? Oh, I didn't know he was singing country music. I'm like, I'm like, motherfucker seriously. He's got 10 number ones, whatever it is not. It's nuts, man. It's nuts. But, no, man, it's showing about him. But I just, you know, it's really nice to, it's.

It was really nice because I saw you, it started following you when you were with the band. And then you, you know, your exit and then just watching you, you know, grow your social, put out your content and showing you living your life, loving your wife and your child and still doing the big boy stuff like your music. Like to me, it just shows what type of person you are. And the people that are listening, I just want them to really truly understand. There are people out there that are really living their life and sharing it with. the social media followers or the you can call them teammates whatever you want to call them them but i want to encourage these young people that are listening now to shoot you a follow because you're going to see somebody doing some cool stuff you're going to see somebody ascending

and you're going to want to be there for that guys because he's doing it with a good heart and there's a lot of people that don't and i appreciate that bro hey but you said it right anybody that's listening best thing you can do is just interact with me on any social media platform you can any likes any comments any follows any subscribes any of those things even for showing yourself like it does wonders for us as social media performers or platform hosts or anything like that so thank you ahead of time i appreciate you guys so much um yeah let's be friends man let's be homies because you're going to get that real shit for me you know yeah i know for sure man it's so funny like you're talking about you know being creator and how

important it is to us like sometimes i think sometimes i think like instagram just like to fuck with me. Like, I really feel like, okay, like, I'm not going to show this to anybody just to piss you off. I put out a video today, dude, like straight up. It was a good video. Like, a really good video. It was a very, like, short 15 second video. Bro, by, like, not by, I'm sorry, by, I put out there, like, close around 7 a.m.

By 8 p.m. It had 116 views. I'm like, what? Literally my worst performing real ever. So you're like, and so to me, but my point is, is like, for those that, you know, actually watched it, interacted with it, thank you, because it does mean something, right? A lot of people say, hey, just put that shit out there and don't worry about it. Just do you. No, when you're a creator and you give a fuck, like you're going to have a reaction to it. It's just like when you create your music, if people,

if people say, well, I don't like it. It's not personal. The fuck it ain't. Yeah. Came from my heart. You know? You know, and that's what's kind of. I'm just, you know, the discouraging part two of it where, where it can be. But like, again, year or not worth doesn't come with with how many likes we get. Now, other people want to say that that that's what it is. Okay. Now, and they are valuable. But man, I mean, creativity comes in so many different ways, bro. And it's hard to box it up sometimes. People like to try, but, you know, some days you get 150. The other days you get 150,000. Other days you get something like this. I'm like, oh shit, all right.

It's like a mixed bag. You're like, fuck, I'm, I've ascended again. And the next day, you're back down there on the mountain. And it's, it's funny because you're at the base of the mountain, right? And that's just a lot about how life is. And it's a lot about how careers are. One day you can think you're up here and climbing in the next day, you're back at ground zero. Those moments are very, very difficult to handle.

What I always like to ask my guess is like, how do you deal with those types of moments, man? Man, uh, protect your circle. I mean, to me, it's all about having, like, the right people to bounce stuff off of, you know? It's, it's, it's much easier to have, like, like, maybe just get off or, I mean, I don't look at therapy. Not so much a therapy session, but like a, uh, uh, because sometimes therapy can be awesome, and I'm a proponent of that. But sometimes, unless it's, like, purely occupational or, like, I'm talking to another artist who's doing the same shit that I'm doing, some like you can only get certain perspectives for certain things so just you know I would be intentional about trying to find those things right finding I try to talk up to

people I try to talk to bigger artists like yo how the hell did you handle this shit bro we got dropped from your first deal because I feel like I just got dropped how does how does this apply to you tell me what you did right mm-hmm that's humility too man like that's the ability to be humble because there's not a lot of people that will do that I I will absolutely, you know, reach out to somebody who is bigger than I am that I have, you know, some type of communication with them. Like, hey, man, I'm experiencing this. Like, what did you do? Like, and like, how did you feel?

Because right now I feel like I'm losing. And, and that's the thing is because a lot of people that come up to me like, dude, your show's grown so much. It's an amazing show. Like, your episode with so-and-so helped me so much. I'm like, I didn't know that. Thank you. Like, I'm glad you're getting value out of it. Like, holy shit.

Like, and then it gives you that. that little bit of a push to keep going, right? Because for me, like, yeah, I'm doing, I'm doing this because I feel like this is what I want to do. I feel this is my purpose. Yeah. You know, and I also just love talking to really cool people for, you know, 45 minutes uninterrupted. It's fun. Like, what else are you going to do that?

You know, but I feel it's really funny because, you know, as you first start out with, with, you know, creating shows. Like, literally, there's like three people that listen. Right. And you're like, oh, my God. Who are those three people? I want to shake their hands. This is amazing. Three people listen.

Then you drop like 10 more shows. You're like, oh, my God. There's only 500 people that listened. What the fuck's going on? What happened? What's going on with my analytics? But dude, like if literally 500 people walked into this room right now and we're watching this show in person, I would be overwhelmed.

500's a lot of people. Let's be grateful for those souls, right? Absolutely, man. Absolutely. Everyone, everyone is, is beyond important. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's OG litigation, man, Roma wasn't built into night, kind of a thing, man. It's like, you can't just one day hope to get a big old lumps of money to be rich.

You got to build that wealth, you know what I'm saying? And that's what it is that we are, we, we, we, our wealth is people that enjoy and, and love our music, love your content, whatever it is. And, and the more people, the better, you know, in any, in any facet of this community. but um so thank you everyone that's listening i appreciate you um Sean appreciates you and uh yeah man hopefully we'll link up soon we'll get we'll get a show you come down to Fort Lauderdale send you play where do you come in well let me get this phone out real quick I think you said it was like this summer like maybe June or July yeah yeah yeah um oh it is like

it's like the weekend after 4 July weekend so like six sweet I'll be in town 6 789 we're in We're in Florida. I don't go on vacation until the 25th. When you got to come hang, bro. I'm there. I'm there. I'm having the 40s lined up, ice down just for you when you get there.

Yes. The wife will be like, oh, shit. I'm like, you didn't listen to the episode, did you? You should have known this was coming.

You should have known this. You should have known we're going to be sitting there drinking 40s backstage at this cat's concert, man. I appreciate you, dude. Real quick, though,

tell everybody, you know, what you kind of line have, well, you have lined up this summer. I have listeners all around. So I want them to be able to know where they can find you, your website, your tour dates. And I'll do my best to put everything in the show notes.

They can just click on it. But where are you going to be, man, other than Fort Lauderdale? Well, I'm going to pull my calendar for you. What you can do is anywhere like Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, anything, just Matt Ferranti music, all right? Even on YouTube. If it's on TikTok, it's just Matt Ferranti. somehow I got that. I don't know how I'd pull that off.

You got to pull your phone. [phone]. User number underscore Matt Ferranti. You don't have to pull your phone out, man. I'll put in the show notes. These people can go and click the link and find where you're going to be. I'll link up with you. But, but dude, I just appreciate, you know, take, you taking the time out of your schedule to be on the show.

Yeah, man. And chat, man, because I think I know. I know someone got something out of what you said. And, you know, you're a grinder. You know, you don't stop. You're a runner like myself. And I see it in you. And it was just one of those things, man.

It was just an instant. Like, you know, it was like a click. Man, I was like, cool. This dude, he understands. He doesn't know him. He's never met me. But I think he understands me. Right.

So, you know, I appreciate you, my man. I love you, I appreciate you. Let's link up soon. You should be a text in those couple days. and we'll link up. Yeah, man, absolutely. So, guys, listen, share the show. If you're listening for the first time, please subscribe to the show, leave a review.

And we're going to be posting a bunch of stuff out on social media, a bunch of clips, you know, interact with them. Let us know what you think. And, but more than anything, give this man a follow. Listen to his music. It's all over Apple, Apple music. Spotify, Amazon music. Everything. Everything.

thing like go search his name listen to his stuff it's got a nice little you know r&b feel to it it's it's just sprinkle that shit right on there it's amazing so thank you so much matt and uh amen godgast baby in terms of society that's it they better recognize all right y'all y'all be good peace