Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - The Awakening: Finding Your True Calling with Stephen Scoggins

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

In this conversation, Shawn French and Stephen Scoggins discuss the concept of being blissfully dissatisfied and constantly striving for more. They explore the idea of awakening and finding one's true calling in life. They emphasize the importance of recognizing and leveraging one's natural gifts and talents. They also discuss the significance of serving others and creating a legacy that outlives oneself. The conversation touches on the topics of determination, authenticity, and the need to be congruent with oneself. They highlight the value of showing up consistently and the impact it can have on others, regardless of the size of the audience. In this conversation, Stephen Scoggins and Shawn French discuss the importance of overcoming limiting beliefs and pushing through challenges. They emphasize the need to remind oneself of past successes and use them as motivation to conquer new obstacles. They also highlight the value of trust, mentorship, and consistency in personal and professional growth. The conversation concludes with a reminder to embrace the journey and continue moving forward towards one's goals. Key Conversation Points Many people are going through an awakening and realizing that they have been living someone else's life instead of their own. It is important to identify and leverage one's natural gifts and talents, as they are often overlooked or undervalued. Serving others and creating a legacy that outlives oneself brings fulfillment and purpose. Being determined does not mean copying others or being angry, but rather being congruent with oneself and showing up consistently. The size of the audience does not determine the impact one can have on others. Remind yourself of past successes to overcome limiting beliefs Trust and integrity are crucial for building credibility Mentorship and coaching provide valuable guidance and perspective Consistency and perseverance lead to long-term success Embrace the journey and continue moving forward Sound Bites "We're all wanting more. We're blissfully dissatisfied." "People are awakening to the fact that they've been living someone else's life." "You have to create a legacy that outlives you." "As you're able to conquer a specific limiting belief, you're able to live out a specific new level of fulfillment." "Remind yourself of times when things weren't going the way that you wanted them to go, but yet you push through, you got the goal or an elevated version of that goal." "Turn anxiety into excitement by turning 'I need to' into 'I get to'." Connect with Stephen Free Gift- https://stephenscoggins.com/8-figure-mindset-makeover-primary-visitation-page/ All Links- https://konect.to/stephenscoggins Connect With Shawn LinkMe- https://link.me/theshawnfrench   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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I confirmed it. A whole society determined. What's going on, everybody. Welcome back. I am your host, Sean French. This is the Determine Society. and have with me today a good friend. He's a nine figure entrepreneur, investor, philanthropist.

He is the host of the hit podcast, Unstoppable. He's a master, life, and business strategist, national speaker. My boy, Stephen Skoggins. What's up, dog? How you doing, bring? Dude, it's great to see your face, man. It's always great to see you, dude. Yeah, absolutely.

No, we've definitely vibe when you came on the show and been fast friends ever since. I loved it. Well, isn't that crazy how that works? I have more. Excuse me. I told you before we record, I feel like I'm getting sick. But how many good friends do you have that you've never freaking met?

Oh, bro. You know what's crazy about a podcast is you make fast friends with a lot of people you vibe with, right? LHGF value alignment, goal alignment, dream alignment. Yeah, I mean, I would probably say at least one third of the people that I've had on a show will become fast friends. It's nuts to me. We can number 50 episodes. So that gives you an idea.

I know. So you have a lot of friends. I think I'm, by this time, this comes out, so 15, 16, 17, probably 118, somewhere around there. But I do, like, I feel like most of my friends that I vibe well with are in this, you know, creator slash podcast entrepreneur type space. And here's my, I guess my hypothesis is we're all wanting more, right? We're blissfully dissatisfied. Like Ed Milette would say, we are just constantly striving to find more in due.

do more and to make a bigger impact in this world. What is your take on that, man? You know what? I find that people have been going through what I call an awakening. More so than I've ever seen in my entire life before. I think society as a whole or culture as a whole for the last 20 years has sold us that we had to be something we're not. Their lawyers need to be painters and painters need to be lawyers. And we're trying to fit ourselves in boxes. Our parents said we should do this. We should do that. But we're really called to this. And I think it takes almost an entire, it seems like it takes almost an entire lifetime to figure out what it is that you really call to do.

Yeah. Right. And I like to start people off a little bit earlier than that. Like, you know, kind of figure out, okay, what is it that you're really stinking good at? That's your natural at. And 90% of the time, you don't know what you're great at. You have to have other people that know you well enough to know, dude. Well, not, when I, you know, we'll talk, we use sports analogies for fun, you know,

let's say, let's say I can throw a fastball better than anybody else in the country, right? To me, I'm just throwing the ball. To my best buddies, like, you have no idea how. really good you are at that. That you're unnatural, right? And I find that that's a skill set that most people don't fully, you know, kind of recognize, which is the reason why I'm big in the mentorship groups and masterminds and coaching and strategy sessions and stuff like that, because you have to have a data mining source or emotional data mining source to really figure that stuff out. So to answer your question fully, I think it's because there's a bit of an awakening happening.

I think people understand they've been sold a bill of goods, you know, go to school, go to college, get high levels of debt, try to figure your way out of it. hope for the best. And then 40 years in, you're like, holy crap, where's my life gone? And I'm not happy for feeling of a joyful. And again, I think it's all because you don't live the life you will actually admit to live. You're living someone else's life.

And again, I think people are just awakening up to that. You know, you got massive leader of doing that and kind of helping us throw that journey. That's a really good point, Stephen, because I felt like it really exploded right around, you know, the onset of COVID. And that could have been just because that's when I started my journey. That's when I had my own personal awakening. It's like, wait a second. Like out of all the dumb things that I've done in my life, I'm still here.

If I die from touching my face, I'm going to be pretty pissed off. Right. And it just made me think like, yeah, I'm probably not going to die. But at the same time is, am I doing what I want to do? And am I doing what I feel like I'm called to do? Is this my purpose? And is this truly my gift? And so I started doing the podcast and it was really bad at first, man.

Like it was really, really terrible. And now I get a lot of comments like, dude, like you are a natural. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, I'm not a natural. Like, I can talk. Like, that's what I'm gifted at, Steve. And I can talk, right? Talking in relationships. Talking in relationships, building both conversations and really, truly deep relationships is one of my gifts, right?

Those are my gifts. But I didn't realize it would turn into what it's turned into, right? But for me, like, it really did start right around COVID. And for everybody, it starts a little differently. So I'm just more kind of turned on to the fact, like, okay, that was the jump off point. But it might not necessarily be. everybody, right? Because you mentioned the last 20 years you're seeing it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the reality is, is again, the awakening is a byproduct of understanding your life is meant to be of

service, not to be of taking. Right. So if you're going at life trying to take and trying to get as much as you can, hoard as much as you can, maneuver as much as you can, level up as much as you can without the intent of serving someone else or serving a business, serving community, serving your family. Like, I can't say how much meaning and purpose is driven in service. Yeah. And I feel like that's where the awakenings occur because I, you know, I'm a big believer that you have to create a legacy that outlives you. And the only way you do that has become the best version of you can of yourself, one, and then share those tactics, those strategies, those lessons, those commonalities, those experiences, that wisdom with other people. And if you

do that, you're going to find joy in, you know, meaning and purpose and fulfillment. If you don't do that, you're just trying to get the next biggest house, the next nicest car or, you know, And look, I have nice stuff. I'm very blessed. But my grandfather and my first mentor, Steve Mark, told me a long time ago, it's okay to own stuff as long as it doesn't own you. You know, so it's a very small portion of my income. And I try to live that way.

So I have more freedom. You know, at the end of the day, people want freedom and fulfillment. Freedom and fulfillment. And the way you get freedom is by being smart with principles and strategies and techniques, which you have to learn from other people because you cannot learn it in school. I never went to college, so I can't really speak to college, but I don't believe you can learn in a college either. You can't learn life mastery techniques and business mastery strategies from people who have never done it. When it comes to what your family eats and drinks, you know your choices matter.

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It's like, you know, you went through your own awakening. Yeah. Right. And I think the biggest thing we can do as light bears, if you will, people are. who are trying to bring light to the world is to incentivize people to go find that awakening for themselves. Stop settling for mediocrity. Start discovering who you really are. Start outlining your gifts. Start really kind of thinking about strategies to amplify those gifts. Look in the marketplace and see, hey, where can I get paid for those gifts? Right? Because then you're serving. You know,

you're impacting while earning an income. You know, so now you have fulfillment in the impact. As a byproducts you're getting income. Your next thing you know, this stuff, starting to flow to you. You're not really having a tribe where you are because it's, it's natural, it's congruent, it's alignment, it's true. And I feel like that's what's what you're seeing happening right now. I know that's what I'm seeing happen as I'm traveling around the country, doing different events and whatnot, you know, working with other thought leaders and kind of in the, in our sphere and our ecosystem. They're all doing the same thing. They're all trying to figure out who they can best serve and they're all creating products, goods, and services with the intent to

impact knowing that if you do that well, a buy product is creating an income, right? And I see that a lot. I know. Yeah, dude. And you know what's so funny. Like I'm, I'm listening to all this and I fully subscribe to it. And that's the thing. Like we, we need to make an impact, right, by leveraging our gifts, right? And if we make that impact by leveraging our gifts and we serve others, whether it's a conversation, a coaching program, a trinket, doesn't matter, right? Or if you're making the next gatorade, whatever it is. Like, you will be paid for that. But I think a lot of times when people go through that journey and it's something that I experience early on and it's something that, I really try to explain to people that are just getting started, like, hey, how did you build this? And like, I want to be where you're at. Like right now, I'm like, I don't even know where I'm at right now. And I think that's currently why I'm being successful because I don't really turn myself onto that. Like, I just, I know I have a purpose. I'm nowhere near where my purpose is. So I feel like every day I'm, I'm constantly pushing and pulling to get to that level that I want to be at. but people really need to understand. It's not just because you find something,

like that gift that you want to leverage and you know you can monetize it, too many people try to go hard right away and just like, okay, well, I'm just going to start doing all this cold outreach. I'm going to build this company, and I'm going to start charging people $20,000 for three months to do something that I've never done before.

And I think that is a key to what you said. For something or learn from somebody that's done it before, a good buddy of mine, Sergio, said something on, I think it might have been threads the other day or Facebook, but you might know Sergio. I don't know if we're awesome. He's awesome. I'll send you his profile later. He's just a no bullshit, like really cool dude, man. And he hits people right in between the eyes and they don't like the feeling of it. And it was like, he, he sold real estate for a very long time, right? Yeah. He said very, very well. He lives in Colorado. And he said like, dude, if you don't own your own home, home. You shouldn't be selling, you shouldn't be giving advice to renters about buying a house. True. And people lost, they just got pissy over it. I'm like, yo, what's wrong with that? Like, if you're going to come to me and ask me how to build a podcast, right, to be in the top 25 in entrepreneurship, I've done that. I can teach you how to do that. But of course, a lot of it is,

okay, you know, systems and back end and things like that, like what kind of conversations do you really have because as we're speaking right now people are like going holy shit this is an authentic conversation there's no script yeah that's why people listen yeah that's my people listen to our shadows is because it's real so we can tell them all that but then you also have to have that voice that gift the ability to layer conversation and questions to a point where people go my god i got to share that i got to listen next week and i got to binge everything that i haven't listened to yet but it takes time is my point and you know long story long that is the point like just because you find something doesn't mean it's going to happen right now.

I mean, it was a lonely three and a half years, Stephen. For sure. I mean, yeah. It hurt. Yeah. Well, think of it this way. Like, one of the things are, so you know, I told you offline last time after we finished the show at my show that I've been recently helping a lot of thought leaders actually monetized because 98% of them never do.

Yep. And that result, five years in, six years in, they give up. Even though they have a fantastic message, it's meaningful, et cetera. And it dawned. me that one of the reasons that's happened is because they spent a lot of time copycatting other people. Oh, don't give you, you're stepping in it now. Keep going. So and so's funnel works this way. Their marketing works this way and their podcast is doing this and their YouTube is doing that and this is doing that and rather than saying, who am I, who am I called to serve? What

problem can I, what problem can I solve for people? What knowledge do I have? What experience do I have. And when you start aligning all those pieces, you get congruents. The problem is, is that's a very uncomfortable process. It's a very uncomfortable process to go inside before you bring anything to the outside. Right. It's very uncomfortable. So when I think about it, I'm like, okay, well, how can I help them become more uncomfortable so I can get them congruent? Because uncomfortable activities breed congruent results. Right? So if I know that I am, you know, I use a doctor, okay? So I know I'm the best plastic surgeon in the world. I've got the best results, right?

Then maybe what I should be teaching people is this is the 10 things you need to know before you hire a surgeon or the three things you need to think about in your recovery process or the eight things you need to think about before you even consider having a surgery, right? those are things that actually serve the public with the specific skill set in mind. Now that same surgeon may have had some coaching himself or herself. They may have done some coaching, life coaching and business coaching. But where you make money is where you can go deep. Right.

And if you've only done surface level activities, you can't get deep level income. You can't get deep level impact. Right. So I don't try to talk. You know, I'm a Jesus guy. I love Jesus to death. There's no harm, no foul. Everybody knows that about me.

I don't beat anybody up with it. You know, I expect everybody's love and belief in the whole deal. I'm really thinking good at business. I don't know why. God bless me with the ability to, as my buddies tell me, Tony Starkett,

right? Think things and, you know, range of what they make sense, you know, and, you know, and I'm good at life master stuff

because I had to overhaul my entire freaking life. Yeah. You know, limiting beliefs, poverty mindset, stair city, all of that stuff, right?

and I don't go outside of those boxes. I don't go outside of those boxes because I can't, I'm not going to be my friend Ed my left. I'm not going to bring my friend, you know, Marie Ford. I'm not, I'm not them. Right, right, right. They've got their own mission. Another thing I was thinking of too,

this is actually really prevalent. I've seen this a lot over the last decade with those that are, I believe they're called to teach. They get intimidated when somebody else is actually called to teach on the same subject matter, not realizing that the lens in which they teach it through will reach a totally different audience than person over here.

Yeah. I'm a big believer in authenticity and congruence and anything and everything you can do to get that was going to make everything else, like just catapult forward. And, you know, sometimes you have to go through the dark down of the soul. You had to do it. I had to do it.

And again, that's an uncomfortable process. It hurts, man. Gosh. Congruence breeds income. It sure does, man. And, dude, like, it's, just one of those things, man, when you started talking about the copycat, I got to go back to that. You went a different route that I thought you were going to go, but I think it's all relevant, right?

So, you know, I saw some things go on, you know, you see it all the time on social media, right? Nobody has their own thoughts. Yeah. Like, I don't say nobody. I mean, I haven't seen you craft anything other than who Stephen Skagans is. I try. Same here, right? Like, nothing we're saying is proprietary. Let's just all, like, I'm not on a soapbox here saying, like, we have our own intellectual property and you know what? No, we're all saying the same type of thing. It all has the same ideas, right? Yeah. But how we deliver it and it's completely, it should be completely, you know, your own. And I'm still seeing people, I mean, I'm still seeing things like, why are you watching Netflix? Like, dude, I watch Netflix all the time. I mean, like, like, the click

I was going to break for a hot minute. Yeah, I was like, dude, you know, like at night, I'm going to watch Hulu and I'm going to watch Netflix with my wife. What's wrong with it? And I think a lot of times, you know, influencers to get these clicks are spitting a nasty narrative that I think is very dangerous to the general public. Like, you have to be able to sift through the BS. And I don't think a lot of people have the ability to do that. Then they say, I'm not watching Netflix. And I'm waking up at 2 a.m.

and I'm going to lift and I'm, you know, it's, it's 11 a.m. And I've already worked out 17 times. It's like, it's amazing. You know, other people can make you told guilty. It's like, dude. Yeah, dude. Yeah. It's crazy.

Again, there are business principles and life principles that lead you somewhere, right? So I'm a big believer that principles govern promises. So if you want to have lived a promise for financial freedom, you have to follow specific principles to get there. You want a beautiful relationship with your partner. Great. There are principles. You have to get there.

Like, don't lie. Don't cheat. they connected, be intentional, like silly stuff, right? And the same whole street with professions and career and all the kind of stuff. I saw about three years ago a big shift into the, just be gritty, just be determined, just, and there's truth to that. But what I saw happened was just being communicated in such a way where people were angry about it.

Like, you've got to be like so driven that you're angry about it. I'm like, that's not how I'm the joy in that, man. Like I just got up and put one foot in front of the other. just kept going, life hit me and I hit, you know, and I have to recover. And, you know, it's just there's, I think there's more said in determination when determination meets diligence. Right. But in order to create determination that meets diligence effectively, you have to determine high level priorities. Right. Right. So you have to get up already knowing what you want to do with your day. And whenever you get off track, you have to get back to that thing. Right. And by definition,

that is determination, right? That's what you're all about, determination. It's like being determined doesn't have to be angry. Being determined doesn't mean you have to model somebody else, copy somebody else, but you've got to be absolutely congruent and consistent with yourself. Come on, come on, man. You know, I show up each day, let your yes be your yes and your no be your no and all good things will happen. I love this, man, because this resonates with me.

You know, when I say I have a sadistic determination, because I do, it doesn't mean I'm a psychopath. It means I'm going to get up and I'm going to do the show. Like for instance, dude, let's go a real life scenario right now. I don't feel good. I don't feel good right now. My rumboys are cramping up. I feel like this donkey punch in my chest.

I'm like, I'm not feeling good. Yeah. But I'm on, I'm on camera with my boy. Yep. One, because we scheduled it. it and we're both so darn busy. And if I didn't do this, I wouldn't get to have this great conversation.

It would probably be pushed out like a month and a half. And I'm like, I'm not waiting a month and a half to talk to my boy. But here's the thing, dude. And this is what I want everybody listening to understand. That's determination. It's not as sexy and gritty as people think it is. It's just doing.

It's just showing up. It is that relentless pursuit, right? And being crew group of what it is we are setting out to do. If I'm going to build this show and I'm going to do what I need to do there, then no matter how many people listen, because there was a time, bro, that I would look at my analytics.

I'm like, oh my God, why am I even doing this? I don't even know if my parents are listening. Like, you know, like 25 listens. That was a real thing.

You know, now we get to a point where, you know, we had 96, 96,000 downloads last month. I want to stop you there for a second, just for hot seconds. I want your audience to understand this.

Because I think we gloss over human beings because we're focused on numbers. Not saying that that was the case. No. Like I decided a long time ago, one or none I'm showing up. One or none, one 10,000,

that matter. I just spoke at a conference, five, six, seven of people, which is great. I've also spoken at conferences of two. Uh-huh. Right?

The most effective people I know, it's not about the audience, it's about showing up for the audience person that's there. So those 25 people that were listening, it doesn't matter if they were just family and friends. Yeah. Right.

You were giving your absolute best. I guarantee, after knowing your way, I know you were dropping nuggets that they applied. Oh, absolutely, man. If that wasn't happening, then it wouldn't have exponentially increased. Yeah.

So I didn't want to take away to the fact because I really feel like, especially in today's culture, if we don't have 100,000 followers or a million subscribers or whatever, we feel less than, not realizing the person that's on the other, end actually needed the content that we were sharing that day, which is why they were there

that day. Yeah. Right? You're by definition creating a broader impact because you chose to show up. Yeah. And I think that's a point, right? You know, to your point, like, and you know me, I 100% agree with what you're saying. Yep.

It's just those numbers don't turn into what they are now if you do not continue to show up. And those individual, those 25 or however many now that are showing up and consuming the content aren't they determined for listening to Determined Society or the show Unstoppable? Yep. 1,000%? 1,000% right? They're telling us and family because they got impact. Yeah, man.

Yeah, dude. I love the, you know, me, you and Amber Lee Lago love for it. Unstoppable. Yeah. It's almost like, do these three like, do they plan this? So your show Unstoppable, man. Yeah. I love it.

Dude, it's such an amazing show. I left you a gleaming review the other day, by the way. Oh, thank you. I appreciate it. Absolutely earned. But dude, that word, unstoppable. Yeah. What does that mean to you, man?

So unstoppable to me is not a word at all. It's a lifestyle. Okay. So the audience that doesn't know, I, born and raised in a difficult environment, right? Did you graduate at high school, had to help family pay the bills, dropped out of high school, build a business from scratch, homeless, a whole deal, right? And there's been a lot of people that have shared in my story. So I don't go into it as much as I used to. But the grand scheme of things,

unstoppable is choosing to get up one more time you get knocked down, knowing that you're going to get knocked down thousands of times. Yeah. And it's okay. Right? I love the Rocky Balbole movies just in general because the big, I was just thinking, dude. Every single time.

He gets his butt knocked down and he, you know, and he sults for a couple few days or a week or licks his wounds and gleanes himself up. And then he gets a coach, a strategist, someone in his ear like, dude, let's go. All of a sudden, he's lifting baskets and hanging from the ceiling and doing these crazy workouts as his rebuild, his rebirths, if you will. You know, and if you're willing to face the adversity and lean into it versus trying to, like, resist it, not only will you move to it quicker, it'll elevate you faster. So you move through the transition quicker, but you also elevate faster because you mature faster.

As you mature faster, you end up in more capacity. more capacity means more opportunity means your income rises your relationships get better your friendships get better your community impact gets better everything gets better but it's only for those

that refuse to lean away from adversity they have to lean into it right and for me unstoppable is a lifestyle right it's a predetermined choice I don't wake up each day

and wonder if I'm going to commit this day like I'm like everybody else I'll go through insecure moments every now and again like you know I had a client recently that didn't work out the way I wanted it to. And I was like, dude, what's going on? You know, and then it took us two weeks to work it out.

Right? But in the middle, I was like, am I really, should I really be trying to do this? Like, everybody bases that. The difference is we kept going. Yeah, wow. Good point. You stop it. Again, you want a great relationship?

Great. Be intentional. You want high levels of financial impact? Great. Be intentional. Right. You want to wake up every day on purpose with a mission and fulfillment and meaning and and significance and joy?

Great. Be intentional. Right? Don't let your circumstances dictate your opportunities. Let your opportunities translate your circumstances. Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes perfect sense to me.

It's funny because when I wrote my book, Unstoppable, it was about all of my daily habits that got me from, you know, being from rock bottoms, you know, high school teacher, like no money at all to six figures within seven months.

It means a true story to happen, right? Yeah. And most of it, when I was writing it was just about, okay, these are just my process. Is this my strategy? Yeah.

really what it was. It was a lifestyle. Yeah. And I think that's an important. I love that you said that, dude. I love that you said that because the clarification of not a word but a lifestyle, that just resonated with somebody listening right now. Yeah. They're like, oh my God, I don't need to talk about it. I need to live it. And when you live it, these amazing things happen to you, right? And I think that another thing that really caught my attention when you're speaking there was, you know, insecurities, limiting beliefs, right? these limiting beliefs are wired, they're there, and they're trying their best to hold us back. But you and I speak a lot about, we both do, about overcoming limiting beliefs and insecurities.

What are some of the strategies that you've, you know, utilize yourself to, to, I don't want to say rhythm, because we never get rid of them completely. No, but we can manage through them. Right. Yeah. Right. So as you're able to conquer a specific limiting belief, you're able to, you're able to live out a specific new level fulfillment that then you have to conquer yet another limiting belief. It's a transition process.

So one of the easiest tools that I've ever used to work through limiting belief issues is to remind myself of things of times where I thought I couldn't do it. And when I push through, great stuff happened. Right? And I use that all the time. I forgot there's a term for it. It's like success bias. Like, okay, for example, I built a largely large, large,

company from homelessness, I have a trash pile of a construction site, okay? Many, many times in the course of that 25 year history before I exited last year that I want to give up. I wanted to give up with myself, me learning out of lead, me learning what accounting looked like, me learning what efficiency looked like, operations looked like, fulfillment looked like, like there was a thousand times I wanted to give up, okay? And the reason I say that is because I had to pull from the trash piles a few times to say, you know what? Stephen, you're about to break through the $50 million ceiling.

This is like 10 years, 10 years ago. You're about to break through the $50 million ceiling. And I was like, I can't do it. I've been stuck at $46 million for two years. I can't do it. And I literally had to say, you know what? You're the guy that started a construction company from a trash pile, dude, with a hammer and a nail in no freaking money, no credit.

And you made it from zero to $50 million with energy, effort, diligence, determination, fight, grit, tenacity. You know, and yes, I made a bazillion mistakes along the way. Okay. I used that in that moment to push me over the $50 million threshold. I went from $50 million to $80 million really quickly after that. Okay. And that's an example of you have to remind yourself of times when things weren't going the

way you wanted them to go, but yet you pushed through. You got, you end up getting the goal or a elevated version of that goal. Because I find that a lot of times we make things. worse than they are or better than they are in our mind. Right? We don't. Of course. Yes. You're right. So in my case, many times where I've pushed through because of the success principle piece, a lot of times what I, my outcome is greater than I expected, not worse, not less than, greater than, you know. So if you take, if you take a time when you thought you were going to give up and you really look at it and you really acknowledge, look, I thought

I was going to give up, I thought it was going to take me out. I thought the rug was coming out for my legs. I thought I was getting punched in the gut and punched in the face. I pushed, I pushed through. I continued the battle. I continued the fight. I won the fight. You know what I'm saying? I do. I go win the next fight. Going back to Rocky Balboa, it's the same thing, right? He goes and wins the first fight, gets his butt kicked. Goes back in the next movie, gets his butt kicked. Has to oh, no, I could do this. Like that's, to me, that's the easiest way and the large, the most effective principle in compounding limited beliefs. It's not necessarily manifestation. It's not There's visualization and all that kind of stuff.

There's elements of the stuff like that. Sure, of course. Yeah. It's in goal setting and vision boards and all this kind of stuff. But will you remind yourself that you're a warrior at heart? Mm-hmm. And then it's easier to pick up a sword. Southwest Florida is one of the most beautiful places on the planet to live.

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I mean, those insecurities and those I can't do that, they resurface that multiple times stretch your journey, just as you spoke. Yep. And they're at different levels. I always say new level, new devil, right? Yep. Right now I'm sitting here and, you know, rebranding and relaunching, you know, and of course, no, not everybody knows what's going on behind the scenes. But, dude, I'm scared.

Yeah. Like, I'm afraid. And, you know, so we're that used to. That's a great thing, right? But see, like, think people misinterpret fear and being afraid, right? Yeah. So when I feel that fear like I'm about to be in so deep right now and putting myself and my partners out there in such a way. interviewing a certain level of people in a actual TV show, Hollywood shoot round.

Yeah. Like, I can't do that. Yeah. I'm behind a kid. And then I'm thinking, wait a second. Wait a second. You have all these people betting on you, coming at you, bringing this to you. Yeah.

Because you can do this. And I go back to yesterday. I yesterday I did my first time ever, I did a coal plunge. Nice. And, and dude, and I realized by the time this show comes out, it'll be outdated, but whatever. I was scared. I was scared. Yeah.

And I sat there, dude. And I, and Stephen, I was like, I'm not doing this? And a 17-year-old girl that worked there had to be like, listen, grab your stuff, give me your phone. I'm going to film it and you're going right now. Yep. I'm like, no, because it's cold. It's such as it. And she goes, and then she goes, I've already like Googled you.

So, you know, why don't you go out there and do exactly what you tell your people that she say, what you coach them to do? Yeah. I was like, thank you for that. Thank you. Thank you. And you're right. Because we all get stuck in it, right?

And I went out there. And I, dude, I went three minutes, man. Three minutes. Awesome, dude. And you know what I thought afterwards? Like, in the middle of it, I said, this isn't that. bad. Yeah. Yeah. That's everything that we're scared of. So for those of you listening, everything that you're anxious of and scared of, right, is not going to be that bad outside of

losing someone that you love or your own health or something like that. But like, you know, do the dang thing. Yeah. It's not that bad. Well, check this out. So I'm a big believer, I'm a big believer of turning anxiety into excitement. Okay. The easy. this way to turn anxiety into excitement is to turn the I need to I have to into I get to right so this thing you're launching right you're one of I don't know a less than one percent of people in the world that will ever tackle something like that yeah you get to yeah I know and dude I'll tell you off air you have you don't even know the half of it yet it is it is crazy and so to your point where when like for me like

I think subconsciously I say I get to, but like real time I'm like, I'm scared shitless. Okay, action. Yeah. Like move. Like make that phone call. Yeah. Call that brand, right? Yeah.

You know, read this section of the operating agreement. Understand it better. Right? Like all these things like that propel me into action that puts me in that space like, hey, wait a second. I get to do this. Like this is a blood thing. Right.

But yeah, to your point, like, there's not a lot of people that have tried this specific model. And spent the time to do the diligence to put the team together, put the funding together, put all but together and make it out of reality to begin with. My team, bro. Oh, my God, my team, dude. Yeah. I cannot say enough about these people. I wish I could say it. But I'm talking former NFL, former national champions, you know, top pickleball players in the world, fastest scoring actual.

actual real marketing agency on the plane. Dude, and they're all athletes. Yeah. I just, this is going to be so excited. But anyway, but anyway, so I, I'm geeking out over it because that's the point, right? It's exciting. And when you try something that nobody else has done, how many people do you know that started a construction business out of the trash pile? I'm the only one that I'm aware of.

Yeah, I mean, like, dude, I'm the only one I'm aware of. I mean, like, I've never heard that story other than yours, right? So it's like, dude, like less than 1%. Well, try this out. So this is important too. So many people listen to other people once they've earned the credibility, right? So the reason people listen will listen to me now on business and life mastery content in general, as one as I'm sincere, two, I agree it.

And three, I have the credibility to back it up. Yeah. So it also goes back to. to doing it ugly, just getting it done. Doing it not perfect, getting it done. Like, doesn't have be perfect. It's an iteration. Like, sometimes we feel like we have to be at like step 3.0 out of the gate.

And you have to have a 1.0 and a 2.0 moment. So you get the wisdom to know what you need to be doing. And the character on your shoulders at 3.0 so you can handle it. I love that. You know what I'm saying? What do you know what are you on right now? Because I have no idea. Bro, I quit counting because I just try to live well and do.

well, right? So like Apple 15. Where are we at right now? I guess I'm a 15 pro max. I don't know. Oh my gosh. I don't know, man.

This is crazy. But these are all great points, man. And when you, when you lead a life like that, you get to do really cool things, right? You did something recently that she told me about you got to write on a

black hawk, dude. I've thought of it's about that. It's one of very few operating blackhawks like still. As far as I know, there's only one in existence is public paid operated. Wow. And so glad,

a gentleman I just met, a phenomenal human being. I met him at one of the events with Tony and Dained and really cool experience. He's also a good friend of Randy Garns who's really super close to me. Yeah, I was invited to join him on the Black Hawk. And while I wish I could tell you everything that happened because you can't on it, it was an exceptional, exceptional piece. That's really cool, man. Yeah, it was really cool.

We took it back from Arizona all the way back to Utah, where I'm living. now and there's a once a lifetime experience. Like I don't, I don't know if I'll get, I mean, I don't, I mean, obviously I'm in, I'm connected to everybody, which is great, but I don't know when I'll get to do that again, right? And I'm now one of, I don't know, 20 people that have ridden a private black hawk around the United States. That's nuts, dude. You know what I said?

Did you take videos and pictures and stuff? I did. I did. Some of them we put on social, some of them we can't put on social, but, yeah. Oh, I'm not to go check it out. You have to send me some of the other. We did a couple reals yesterday while, while, while it was actually happening. But, uh, oh, I got to go check them out.

Sal. Yeah. There's a thing though. It's like you get to do cool stuff. Yeah. When you have your credibility stripes. Mm-hmm. So why resist the credibility stripes?

Why not just lean into it? Focus, like literally lean into it. Yeah. It's stronger. Get smarter. Get better. And keep going. And cool stuff will happen.

Cool stuff will find you. Dude, it's so true because I can think back to the time where, you know, like I said, there was crickets. And like when you would approach partnerships and brands, of like, yeah, dude, no. Now the response is like, hey, can you send me what your levels are? Like, how much, how much do I go in at? I'm like, wait a second here. Like, we're there now, right? And I know that I'm still getting going. We're starting to build it, right? Like, and that's the thing. It's like, but, you know, I had to go through all those moments, right? And the listeners, like, you got to go through

all the moments. And I'm still trying to figure everything out. And when you're raising money for, for meaningful endeavors, like all you have is your character and your integrity. That's what people are leaning into and choosing whether or not to invest into from the get-go. If they're in a position where they can invest and strategically do cool things and whatnot like that, they're coming in like, all right, well,

how do I know this guy or this girl kind of thing? And they're thinking through that. Or I always check as many sources as I can. You know, people like, okay, this is the, this is the investment opportunity over here. Great. How many people do I know that knows that person? Yeah. And I said, can you tell me about so and so?

I don't tell them why I'm doing. I was like, can you tell me about it? They're good people. They know, like you know, tell me about that kind of deal. And that gives me peace of mind sometimes to choose to invest in certain projects. That's awesome, dude. That's credibility. Yeah.

Right. So if you're incongruent and you're not living intentionally, you're going to make mistakes. You're going to break trust. When you break trust, you by definition, delete future. opportunities, right? Absolutely. The reason you're able to raise funding and do the cool things for this massive project when I'm super excited about it.

We can't talk a lot about it, but I'm super excited. Right? On your behalf is because you have the trust. You have the character. People trust and know that if they partner with you, you know, you're going to do everything you're to power to make sure it's a massive success. Yeah, dude, 100% man. And I appreciate that, you know, but it's something that you never.

know you're earning when you're earning it right you just like you feel like you're rocky losing your second fight yeah that's all you feel and i think there's a reason going back to the rocky references i don't know of a young man like in our era that did not love rocky and it was for a reason america loved the underdog america loved to see somebody win get absolutely smoked and beat up and have life happen to him and then come back and win. I noticed in every single Rocky movie where he got his butt kicked, he came back stronger.

Yeah. Which is how it became victorious. Exactly. That's what life and being unstoppable would be determinants all about. It was just getting stronger. Like, just get stronger. You get your butt handed to you.

Great. Pick up some more weights. Read another book. Hired another coach. Try again. Save up some more money. Yeah. Like Walt Disney went bankrupt.

I don't know how many times before Disney World happened. Did you listen to the Founders episode of him? I didn't. Strong. Yeah. I got the, I got the, I got the, I got the, I got the term sadistic determination from there. He was, it was like, there's something that he explained.

He had a raw ingenuity and sadistic determination. Wow. The story of, of Walt Disney growing up as an entrepreneur and what he was willing to do in order to get to where he ultimately ended up. up is like all we have to do to know everything about success and entrepreneurship and growing a brand. And like you that likes to say is growing and leaving a legacy that you can leave behind is all in that episode. Like, you know, I don't ever really plug another show in my show unless it's the person

that I'm speaking to. But that specifically, dude, like I would go back. That is incredible. So watch this, right? because we're close, because we have trust, right? You say, go watch this episode. What do you think I'm going to do? Oh, you're going to go right to Apple.

You're going to find and you're going to go to founders and you're going to watch Walt Disney. You're going to listen to Walt Disney. Absolutely. Because there's relationship, there's trust there. Yep. Right. But if we, in all the interactions we've had, if either one of us felt like we couldn't

trust each other, you'd say, oh, yeah, thanks. Yeah, cool. I'll check it out. Yeah. All right, cool, man. See ya. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's, that's what I think people will get rolling.

I don't think people. because they're not living congruantly day after day, they can't earn the trust of other people because they don't even have the trust of themselves. Yeah. You know, trust is a funny thing, man. And I think a lot of times when people start doing business and doing something so different than they normally done before,

and they can see that on the big movie screen of their mind what it's going to look like, but nobody else can. And a lot of times what happens is that person likes to try to skip level things on accident. Yep. On accident. It's never intentional. I did it. Shoot, man.

To the point, I still think I do, right? Sometimes you skip steps because you don't know they exist. Exactly. Again, that's why I'm a big believer in mentorship and coaches. Like,

I'm a big believer in having someone look over my shoulder outside of my purview. Right? Because I'm living life from the inside out. Like I'm making up with whatever beliefs from my mind and waking up with whatever relationship struggles I may or may not have or I have. I have to have someone who can see clear a picture.

I can't be the mountain in the in the what do they call those binoculars at the same time you know what I'm saying no yeah exactly it's it's funny it's funny man but yeah like to your point like mentorship good mentors good mentorship yep will allow you to see a layer of existence that you don't even know is there 100% and it's that's why I love coaching that's why I love you know coaching that's why I love doing these shows. because I learn. It's so funny, like, someone asks me, like, what do you love most about podcasting and interviewing people?

I said, well, other than the free coaching session, yeah, right? And that's my answer. It's true. It's true.

I mean, I know what my hourly rate is. Right, exactly. Same. It's like, I can't, like,

I don't have people on and I don't go on if there isn't something I can learn from that person and truly feel like, okay, this person could, this person could possibly,

be a part of my circle. Yeah. Because, dude, and what people don't realize is I could go into your request box and you can go into mine and be like, how are you functioning right now? Like, there's like a thousand requests here to come on this show. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, but those are also examples.

Every single day. Oh my gosh. But it's also the example of skip leveling a step that you don't know exists. Yeah. Right. I just think it's important for, you know, for me and you and, you know, all of our peeps. like they don't know any, they don't know any better. They just, they're, they're trying to get there, man.

We were there. Yeah. And there's still shows I'm trying to get on obviously, right? But it'll happen. But I don't know, man. I just, consistent. Yeah, man. And putting in the reps.

People really underestimate putting in the reps. We know. Let's say you want to build a big business. You want to build a big, big show, big podcast, whatever. Just humor me for a second. You're not going to come out day one. with low levels of experience and come out

and kill every show you're going to be on. Dude, if you saw me on the first podcast shows all was on, I was terrible. I was so bad.

I was talking about all kinds of stuff and all kinds of different directions and then I was like, wait a minute, the most successful people I see doing shows, they really hold in

a one or two, three, maybe three things. Mm-hmm. Right? So then I stopped talking about dogs and cats and going,

you know, and whatever. I started, okay, well, I'm going to focus on Jesus and we're focused on business and life.

Yep. right? And then I was like, okay, well, okay, well, how do I go deep at each one of those layers? All right, well, I understand the principles govern promises. I understand you have to create a legacy that lives you. I understand that you've got to be willing to do today what others won't so you can have tomorrow or others don't. And then it allows you to really kind of like really hone it and you get your reps and you get your practice. And as you get your practice, you get more opportunities. As you get more opportunities, you'll be on bigger shows. Yeah. And that's just the way it works. Like no one's going to hop on a less than what they call a top 0.25% show. On day one.

I don't care how much publicity you get. Yeah. People have taken years to make those shows what they are. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's funny. It's okay to earn your place.

It sure is, man. I'm laughing because we said you're free. If you go back and watch the first podcast you were on or whatever. I was an idiot. Dude. That was so bad. So bad. Like,

I'm embarrassed, right? So, like, a lot of times Facebook is cool because it reminds. of how crappy you used to be. And so I think I got, dude, I think I got like a two years ago today. I'm like, oh,

what's that look like? I'm like, oh my God. Like your delivery sucked. Yeah. It's crazy, but here's the difference between what a lot of folks do versus what people like yourself,

myself, and other our influence and circle do. We did it anyway. Yeah. We didn't care. All right. It's going to be ugly. It's going to be messy.

I'm still going to try. Yeah. Well, look at Gary Vee in the Wine Library. Yeah. Worked out long term. Wow. How about that, huh? Everybody was laughing at him.

Yeah. You know, now look at him. So, look, dude, I feel like there needs to be a part two. I feel like we need to do this again. Anytime. So let's connect offline and see if that's a possibility. But, dude, thank you so much for always bringing so much value to the world, but more specifically today in my list.

And I just appreciate you, man. I appreciate you, man. I really appreciate the opportunity to come and share with your listeners. Hopefully I dropped something that they can add to their license back. You absolutely a plus job, maybe a plus John. I'll put everything in the show notes. But why don't you give the audience a little bit how they can find you and what they can do to best support you right now, man. Yeah, you know what?

I think the if we're looking to support us, we're looking to grow. So likes, shares, reviews. You can check out Unstoppable and all the podcast platforms. you can actually catch our episode on YouTube. Well, actually catch it everywhere, but YouTube will react to the vibe, you know, on the camera,

which is always really cool. I'm most active on Instagram personally, but I will tell you, my team is also in my DMs and stuff like that. So please will try to sell me time shares and followers and bots and whatever. They will. Don't worry. I will.

I will very quickly delete your stuff. Yeah. You know, but, and then we got Stevenscoggins. com. So there's probably the two easiest way. We are everywhere.

We're on. X and TikTok and all that kind of stuff. But I am personally most active on Instagram. And that's just Stephen of underscore Scottkins. Well, I'm going to put that as show notes. It's so weird calling it X, isn't it? It is. I don't know.

Do you call it exing? Like now when he called Twitter. I think I call it. I think of what I call still calls it a tweet. I call it tweets. I call Twitter. It's Twitter. I'm sorry.

It is what it is. But listen, man, thank you so. Oh, man. I appreciate you, dude. Thank you again. And you heard the man go check out his stuff, leave some great reviews, but consume his show, listen to it. And find out where this man's heart truly is to get more of what you heard today. But until next time, guys, I want you to wake up and not just be determined, but also just move through your day.

And you never know what good is going to come out of it. It could be slow for the first part of the day. And you could think that nothing you are doing is working and you're not making. any progress. But then that one full call comes and it makes your whole day. And then you realize being upset about the first part of your day is something you don't need to be wasting your time with. So that said, guys, continue to push forward. Go chase your dreams. And we'll see you next time. Peace. Southwest Florida is one of the most beautiful places on the planet to live. For those of you that are thinking of moving from other states to come to Florida or even just

moving to a different part of the state, I want you to think of a big, beautiful luxury. home. Contact legacy luxury builders. They are a family owned and operated luxury residential construction company. As a family owned business, they believe in the power of building not just homes, but legacies. Contact legacy luxury builders. The nightmare feeling like he'll never measure up of constant second guessing and self-doubt. It eats away at you and destroys your confidence. I've been there too. Feeling like I didn't belong on the field with my teammates, but it doesn't have to stay that way. I used to compare myself to everyone around me. I thought

that no matter how hard I worked, I'd never be as good as the other guys. It killed myself for me. I now help athletes develop an elite mindset so comparison no longer controls them. We teach techniques to cut out the negative self-talk and unlock for full potential. Imagine

stepping into the box when it counts the most and feeling totally confident in your ability. Feeling invincible instead of insecure. Ready to seize the opportunity instead of shrinking front. That's the mindset I help athletes develop. Don't waste another minute on comparison and self-doubt. Take control of your mindset and become the confident, unstoppable competitor you are meant to be. You end more comment below to get started with Edge and transform your mental game.