Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - The Video Sales Letter Jedi with Lefteris Koutinas

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society Podcast! On this episode I have a deep cpnversation with The Video Sales Letter Jedi, Lefty. Imagine that you have a business or a product that you are selling and getting the word out can be somewhat complicated... That is where Lefty and his team come in.  Lefty provides amazing video sales letters for your prospects that are so effective that by the time the prospect gets to you their objections have already been addressed, they know exactly how you can help them solve their problems and essentially just need to complete the transaction. Key Points: Who is Lefteris? What Lefty does? What sets him apart from other "video" services How he got started The history of entrepenuers in his family How to work with him What is a VSL Why is it beneficial How VSL's can positively impact your business Being authentic Connect with Lefty: Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/createwithlefty/ YouTube- www.youtube.com/@createwithlefty Book a call- www.createwithlefteris.com Connect with Shawn: Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/theshawnfrench/   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I don't have cookie cutter solutions. What I create for you is not what I create for the next guy. The script that I create for you is not a script that I'm going to use for the next guy. What is up everybody back with a brand new episode of the podcast of Determined Society? I'm super excited today because every so often I am blessed with the opportunity to interview one of my good friends that is absolutely doing amazing shit out there. not just saying he's doing amazing shit or she's doing amazing shit, but truly providing value to the people in his community and giving overall amazing quality work to people like myself in the industry and to many, many more people. The amount of value this guy cranks out on Instagram, the value he cranks out on

YouTube is second to none, leads with his heart. I love him. We call him the sales video Jedi. Welcome to the show, Lefty. How you doing, buddy? Good, man. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate being here. Dude, hell yeah, man. I'm excited we get this uninterrupted time to actually just wrap with each other. Like, we go back and forth all the time, and we've had some calls before. But it's super cool to be able to take the time out of both of our schedules and do this amazing show and collaborate with each other and provide some amazing value. Yeah, uncut, uncensored, right on instead of the last. voice notes we leave each other on Instagram.

It's all uncensored with me, right? Whether it's a voice note or a fucking podcast. See, it's already started, right? It's funny you mention that because, you know, we're talking a little bit off air for those that are listening. My boy and I were talking off air that the last two videos I put out there on Instagram is more of who I am. And to a point where it was very like, the hook was like,

hey fucker like and and it's really good it's it's it's to me it's really good content but um you know i am an uncensored guy um to his point and and he is as well i just i love the fact that you know the the the right people are going to gravitate to my energy and to understand like hey when Sean's saying hey fucker he's not being an asshole he's like saying like hey sweetheart what's up yeah it's friendly right like i i i i I kind of grew up in that atmosphere with that kind of knowledge with like friends and whatnot. So it's like when when I actually like discovered your Instagram page like months back, I was just like, I need to know this guy and be like friends with this guy and like look at where we are right now.

You know what I mean? It's nuts, man. And that's the power of social media. And I think, you know, to your point, it's like, you know, I provide a certain value to you. You provide a certain value to me. That's the initial relationship, right? Yeah. It's like, oh, wow, like I can use to have this person in my life in some way, shape,

or form to be friends with. And then you obviously, like, you know, that relationship grows a little bit. And it's just like, you know, here we are on a podcast, you know, months later. And to where when we first met, that wasn't even really, we weren't talking about it. And but it's, it's really cool because, you know, I say this all the time. And I say it all the time because not enough. have people hear it the first time. And I always hope and pray that they can really figure the fuck out the hundredth time I say it is social media is not a dark wormhole. It is, there is a lot of

love and light in social media, depending on who you choose to let into your community and into your energy. And I'm always happy when I see you comment like or, you know, I get a message from you. It's never a, oh boy, what the fucks this guy want. It's always like, hell yeah, it is my boy. So with that said, I have really good friends that I've never, ever met in person. Yeah, yeah. I think, I think I can put myself in that same boat too, right? Like, totally.

Like, there's so many people that we can just meet. Like, dude, you can meet like a hundred people in an entire day. And it's like, you'll probably never meet them in your life, like physically. I find that like amazing and just like crazy all at the same time. I love it. I love it. Well, we've warmed the audience up with enough foreplay. So let's get them in bed right now.

The greatest thing about people's skills, it's like it's an entryway into their heart and their creativity. And you use video to help salespeople and coaches get more out of their business. For those that are listening that don't know what you do and how you do it, why don't you give us a quick, you know, one or two minute synopsis of who you are and what you do. Right. So, you know, as you covered earlier, my nickname is the sales video Jedi. And I produce top of funnel video assets that pretty much work on autopilot and help coaches and online experts sell more in their businesses so they can either, you know, spend more time with family or just

maybe people want to buy another house, another car, another, fuck, another plane. Who knows it, right? But essentially the type of videos that I create for them are promotional advertisements in which they can run on autopilot and the videos essentially do the heavy lifting for them because of how we film it, how we script it, how we direct it. It's an, entire process, but everybody so far that I've worked with has loved that process. Everybody is, everybody's needs are unique. So a question that I get asked all the time too is, what can I see your previous work? And I love this question so much because it's like, Sean, you have a completely different personality. And I work with, you know, other coaches that are a little bit more timid.

what's it to you to show you a video that I did for a timid guy when you're outrageous and out of the box? You know what I mean? You're going to literally turn around and you're going to watch the video. You're going to be like, sure, Lefty, that was great. But I don't think you can capture the essence of what I want. So I always try and steer people away from looking at the portfolio because I don't have cookie cutter solutions. what I create for you is not what I create for the next guy. The script that I create for you is not a script that I'm going to use for the next guy.

Sure, maybe some small things here and there can kind of be used in different, I guess, areas. But at the end of the day, everything is tailor-made, custom-made, as if you're going to get like that fine-ass Italian suit. Right. No, I love it. It's funny because we were. ran into that. Like, those that are listening, I think, I think he's fucking kicking me in the nuts on my own show right now, guys, because he, because I literally asked him. I said, hey, man, can I see a body of work, right? I didn't know him very well. And I wanted to see the body of work. Wasn't because I was testing him. I was very, very curious. But to his point, to his very point, I said, bro, like, that's way too low energy for me. Now, again, you know, I'm a little more mature than a lot of other individuals. to know that like, hey, my energy is going to be brought to this fucking thing and we're going to create something eventually that is going to speak to my brand because I will work with you in that capacity. Yeah.

Right. But the bottom line is, is a lot of people can look at that and be like, hey, well, you know, that was like, that dude was super timid. Like, I don't know if this is going to work with me. When it comes to what your family eats and drinks, you know your choices matter. You're the expert because you know what fits your. life. And getting it right starts with good information. That's why America's beverage companies are sharing more information about our ingredients at good to know facts.org. No spin, no judgments,

just the facts straight from the experts for more than 140 beverage ingredients. Visit good to know facts.org. And so I love that you, I love that you address that, right? Because again, And people are curious, but at the same time, you know, you can only be as creative and go as far as the personality that the person possesses will allow you to, right? And we're specifically talking about a video sales letter, a VSL. Can you explain what a VSL is to the individuals that are listening right now and that are as dumb as shit as me because I didn't even understand what it was? All right. So back in, I guess, the 80s, 90s. probably even the 70s, you would want to get into writing a sales letter or like a

cover letter, let's say, for example, as to like why you're the best and why you want that job, for example. But now flip that script, do it in a video and now tell the prospect kind of why they need you versus kind of like why you need them plus you need them and whatnot, right? So what it is essentially is it's a video that builds no like and trust right away. It works around the clock like I mentioned on autopilot because it never sleeps, never gets sick, never asks for vacation days. It gets your sales scripts ready 100% of the time because you've recorded it once and you say it the best take on that video. And your prospects should be 90% closed before they even get on a call with you. So when they do get on that call with you, there's only two questions to be asked.

And that is when can we start and how much? Absolutely, man. And I think that, you know, when you talk about these types of things, of VsLs, like, you know, as a sales professional in corporate America and then obviously having my own coaching business is when someone gets to you, you want them to understand enough about what you do and how you're going to do it, right? I understand who you are as a brand and as a business. And in that way, it's just like, okay, I want to work with this guy.

When can we start? And how much is it? How much is the investment, right? because everybody's going to want to know the investment associated with working with somebody like me or working with somebody like you. Yeah. Let me ask you this. You have a really cool story that you've been very open about putting out on YouTube. I think it was your very first video you put out there.

Talk to the audience a little bit about how you got into video and what it means to you on an emotional level. Ooh, okay. Yeah, great question, man. I'm going to try and like give them the condensed version because it is quite a story. But I was I was born into a family of entrepreneurs who dominated broadcast media for 40 plus years in radio and television. So, you know, I was around like, you know, TV, film, radio, advertising and all that, pretty much my entire life. So I was never really afraid of being in front of the camera, being the center of attention. And I guess that kind of led me to like, you know, also being the class clown essentially at school. But in my...

I can see that. Yeah. But as I was, as I got older and as I started getting into like my teenage years, I really fell in love with music. And I always had like, I always had like an appreciation. for music, but I mean, like, what like five to 10 year old really knows about music, right? So it really happened when I was like, you know, 14, 15. And there could be listeners that you have that are going to understand the lingo that I'm about to use. And there's probably listeners that are going to be like, what the fuck is he talking about?

I agree. But I actually have my love for music came when I was able to start pirating music. music on Napster. Oh, yes, Napster. Remember that? Did you remember that, man? Yeah, so I was, so, so I was heavy into Napster and I was, and that's how I actually, like, got into, like, Technum and, like, all the house music.

And I was finding all this, like, underground shit that you could not buy at a record store, you could not find anywhere, like, on whatever internet we had at the time. Right. And I don't know, just something came over me at that point. and I was like, yo, I need to learn how to like manipulate this, remix it, play it. I need to know it all. So lo and behold, I actually got into DJing. And it's funny because it has nothing to do with with what I do now.

But it does tie in. So DJing comes. I learn how to DJ. I get my first like club gig when I was like 16 years old. I'm playing for like a thousand people, which is nuts. That's nuts, me. Yeah, yeah, crazy party. You know, they put me in the, in the room associated to the music that I'm performing.

You know, and as the years go by, I progress, you know, as I get older, all of a sudden, a thousand person club gig turned into like three to five thousand person club gigs. Then it turns into me, you know, performing at the winter music conference in Miami, like almost 10 years ago, which leads me to play. playing like 50,000 person music festivals in Europe and like beach parties in Greece. And I just like became this like not massive name, but I was like a nice household name, if that makes sense. Right?

Like I wasn't no like Afro Jack, but people, people knew me if the name came around. So as popularity sprung, there's things that have to be put in motion, things that have to be put in place, right? So one of them being is a press kit. So you need photos of your live performances. You need head shots. You need videos. And I always found a way to like be interesting with my videos, right?

I was like one of those guys where people were like putting out like the polished shit. And I was like, yo, I want to film me in the studio like producing a track. Like I want people to see the stuff. that they're not going to normally see. And all this started happening, like, in and around, like, the first days of, like, Instagram, which we're talking now, what, maybe 15, 20 years ago? Yeah, it's been some time for sure. Yeah.

So, so I'm progressing throughout this entire process, getting a bunch of content out. And, and, you know, growing up in high school and even elementary school, I was never, like, the popular kid, right? I was always kind of like the floater. Like I had crews of people to hang out with. But I was never like with the jocks or I was never with this person or that person. I was kind of like the fat nerdy kid essentially, right? So that did kind of play a, like it played a role in my self-esteem at the time.

And I think that's what kind of gravitated me towards DJing too is because I wanted to be the cool kid. Right. I wanted to create this, this character, this persona that never actually existed in me, but I could bring it to light, right? And the moment, and when I was hiring photographers and videographers, I actually ended up, I don't know, they ended up capturing this character that I created so well. and I was like, and I remember saying to my photographer, I was like, yo, do I actually look like that? And they're like, yeah, man. Like, it's just some editing, but like, that's, that's you. And I was like, holy fuck.

Like, I look cool as shit, right? And it was like, I was like 25 at the time or 24 at the time. And it was like the, it was literally the first time that I was, I could say that I'm like my most confident. Like, I kind of, I kind of know who I am now. know what I'm saying. And in and around 30 years old, so six years later, I ended up meeting my girlfriend, who's my wife at the time, I want to spend a little bit more time at home with this new relationship that I'm building. I can't be, you know, gallivanting at clubs, coming home at like 10 o'clock in the morning because believe me, I have played sets from like 2 a.m. to 11 a.m.

before and dude they suck but but i mean i uh i said okay how can i how can i turn one creative into another creative because they have to be creative there's no way in hell i'm just going to like leave djing i'm going to get some fucking boring desk job and and that's it it's done and over with so at the time my wife and i were you know getting engaged we're getting married and we have to hire videographers, photographers and all that. And I was like, oh,

I go, yeah, maybe I can, maybe I can get into like photography and videography, right? I was like, oh,

maybe, maybe this could be an outlet for me. So I ended up asking my mom for a wedding gift, which she was super nice of and ended up buying my first camera for me. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, God bless her heart because,

like, she spent a pretty penny. And I still use it till this, day because it's a fucking banger. Like it hasn't like it's still kept up with even all the new technology that's out right now. And for any videographer, like even considering or coach or course creator, anybody out there that's looking for a camera, guys, you got to buy Sony. Because like Sony is all about less is more and they keep up. They bang.

All right. And how I fell into the niche of working with coach. and online course creators and another online experts and whatnot is the fact that there was this gap where not enough people were really getting themselves out there. And I just really wanted them to feel how I felt when I first got my photos and videos back. To have that wow moment to be like, here's Sean, here's your video and you go, holy fuck, is that really me? and I go, yeah, bro, that's really you. That's such a cool fucking story.

Thank you. But that moment was like, that, that moment of how I felt is how I want others to feel when I give them their stuff back. You know what I loved about this whole story. I want the audience to really pay attention is, yes, I love the journey of you being a household, a relatively household name and in the DJ, you know, profession and playing in front of 50,000 people crowds. But dude, there's two points in that whole fucking story that for me hit home.

Okay. And I want to share them with you. Sure. And it's, and they're going to be a direct correlation of why I chose to be friends with you. Okay. You were doing something that you loved and you met your girlfriend, which is now your wife. And you realize that you valid the relationship more than being out from two in the morning

to 11 a.m. and you knew it couldn't withstand, you know, in a healthy relationship, right? It could, you know, cause probably insecurities, toxicity, et cetera. And you chose to find another way to bring your creativity in and give it back to other people. And by doing that, so for one, that's it, outwardly focused. You're focused on other people and you give a fuck. Yeah. All right.

You understand the value of a relationship. The other thing was, um, that hit me very, very hard just now was, you wanted people to feel how you felt when someone created something for you, like, holy shit, is that me? Right. Nothing in that story was about you. It was about your wife,

and it was about how you can bless somebody else with your skills. Have you always been that way? Yeah, I have. it's it really sometimes get to a point where, you know, my old school European mother is always with the old school mentality. Don't tell people your secrets because someone's going to take your work from you and whatnot. So it's like I've always, I've always been like that.

I've always put people first. I've always, whether it shot me in the foot and believe me, it has, you know, providing sometimes too much information when when they can, you know, officially just rule me out of the equation and not need me anymore, you know, that's, that's the kind of guy that I've always, I've always been, right? I've always, I've always helped others. I've always given more information than maybe sometimes I should. But at the end of the day, it's like, for me, it's, If you're making something and you're happy and, you know, all the power to you. And at the same time, too, it's like if you want to just be that person who steals all my ideas and secrets and whatnot.

And I mean, realistically, I air quote secrets because what is really a secret. You know what I mean? But I guess the whole point I'm saying is that if you're going to be that person, it's like I probably don't want to work with you anyways, right? Like the people that I have worked with are those who I've given the same amount of information to. And now they're just like, where do I write you a check, man? Where do I drop the credit cards? You know, so don't be afraid of the secrets. Don't be afraid of giving people things because, you know, there will be people that are going to take your shit and run.

And there's going to be people that are going to say, I need more. And that's where I keep. my mentality. That's where I keep my, my positivity and my spirits is, is looking for the people that I give everything to and they're going to just want more. God damn, I mean, I love you so much. I'm just smiling inside. Like, you know, I can relate to this. The amount of shit that I do for free would, is, would be laughable for a lot of other people. But I truly believe I got into this business to actually help people, right? And a lot of times I'm, doing things that people pay a lot of money for.

Yeah. You know, to help somebody that truly does not have the resources. Like, not even close. Like, like I couldn't even take a dime from him where I feel like I'm taking advantage. Right.

Here's the one thing that I want to touch on because it came up very, very naturally is when you are acting in such an outwardly focused way like you are, it is a very genuine type of a. personality, people can take advantage of you, right? Just as you mentioned. And I have been taking advantage of a lot. And I've seen it a lot in this space, right? This online space. What are some of the, I guess, times of adversities or downward slopes that you've experienced in this business because of people taking advantage of you. And how did you rise above that adversity? Because I think this is an important question, right? Because a lot of people can feel that adversity and not come out of it.

And they'll just, they'll cut bait and say, fuck this shit and give up on their true assignment in life. And I know that's not what you do. Yeah. I honestly don't think it's a great question, but I think it's also a tough one for me to answer. And I'll give some context behind two. You know, I go to like, I mean, not anymore. My God, I haven't probably, I haven't stepped foot into like a bar or a club or a lounge and probably six years. But the times that we do, and I'm just having normal conversation, you know, my, my wife would always point out like, hey, you know that girl's hitting on you or, hey, you know that girl's flirting with you? And I'm like, she is. I'm like, I'm just having a normal conversation. Like, I'm, I'm sometimes oblivious to things happening around me. So I feel like because, you know, it's a blessing and a curse, but I feel like,

like sometimes my oblivious nature doesn't allow me to fall, right? I just do things without knowing something bad is happening. And then it's just like, oh, okay, whatever. Like that person just didn't want to work with me after. So it's on to the next. And the whole onto the next concept comes from when, you know, being in the entertainment industry, it's like it's gig after gig after gig. Like I remember there were, I remember when I was like, when I was super hot, you know, it was Thursday to Sunday.

I wouldn't stop, right? So I also generate my leads and prospects that way. When I'm talking to people, it's not that, okay, if you don't want my services, I'd sit, you're cut. I don't want to talk to you anymore. But the moment I hear no and there's no way of, you know, saying, okay, well, Well, how can we work together? It's just a flat out no.

The events industry has helped me have thick skin where I have the onto the next mentality. Very good. Very good. You know, I can, too, be very, very oblivious to things that are happening around me as it pertains to people taking advantage of it. Let me be very clear, though. Of course they're hitting on you. You're fucking majestic. It's an inside joke.

And I'm just going to air myself out. I was typing him an email the other day. And like an actual email, electronic mail. We do that too. Yes. And I kept getting the error button on the fucking spelling of majestic. And it's spelled with a J. And I was spelling it with a G because I'm a fucking idiot at times.

I'm like, whatever. I'm just going to send it. And this asshole spell corrects me in the middle of an email. I'm like, well, I like mine better. Yeah. A little bit of a little bit of a grammar. Nazi over here. Yeah. I know it's funny to do because like it was just one of those things where I was in the middle of like a thousand different things. I'm like, why is this not, why does this tell

me it's the wrong spelling? Fuck you, iPhone. It's not it's not wrong. You're wrong. And I sent it anyway. But going back to that actual point of being a bloodied, like when you're a good person and I want everybody that is listening to this right now to understand that when you are a good person, you do not understand bad intentions because you don't have bad intentions. So a lot of of times our alarms don't go off right but yet your wife and my wife gets to be like a sean you know he left you that dude or that they're taking advantage of you they they are they are not really there for you and it's so funny because i've been referencing my wife a lot in my podcast lately because i think it's like the um epiphany that fuck she's right yeah so she can literally look at the

right and like literally um watch someone's video or hear you hear their voice like, I don't get, I don't, I'm not reading good energy out of this person. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. And then three months later, that person burns me.

And she's like, fucking told you. You don't want to listen to me. I'm like, dude. Like, how would you know? Like, you don't know this person. So like, we don't have. You and I don't have that alarm. Right.

No. And it's, but we need to acquire it. Right. Or just listen to our wives. Have our wives on retainer. Like, all right. I'm saying, is this person, is this person a good person or not? Should I do business with this person?

Yeah. But I think that's important, you know, and it really brings, you know, good light to, you know, surround yourself and address this. To surround yourself with good people. It could be your wife, could be your husband, you know, your mother, your sister, your daughter. It doesn't matter who it is. But for those goodhearted people out there that don't know when they're being taken advantage of, you really need to have those people around you. And it's just, I mean.

I'm chuckling because, you know, we were talking, you know, before we hit record and we were talking about the DMs and how disgusting they are and how you have so many people just, especially, you know, in your field, like in your field specifically for video, that just, hey, man, what's up? Love your content. Fucking amazing, man. But listen, I could do Alex Hermosie type, type, you know, subtitle. to get more reach.

Like, it's happening all the time. And what these people don't realize, one, okay, that person doesn't know Alex Hermosey, okay? Anybody working with Alex wouldn't be fucking DMing you, okay? Yeah. Skin you for business. But like, talk to me a little bit about that in the video industry because, you know, we all do some type of outbound reach.

I'm not going to say we don't. But like, some people come with some slimy ass shit, dude. why do you think that is um i think it's just i think it's just not being educated i think it's just not having a a understanding of how to really put together a cold message um now for starters people that are receiving cold messages because i get them all the time like i have to ask for and i'm sure there could be listeners out there that you know have uh are are you know guilty of this, but like, if somebody cold outreaches to you, you don't have to be an asshole, right? Like, somebody, somebody is just trying to make a buck the same way that you are.

And, you know, you just happen to do it better than they do. But number one, don't be an asshole. You know, at the end of the day, you kind of have to ask yourself, like, is your life that fucking miserable that you have to, like, really belittle someone for, sending you a DM. Like, come on. Get over yourself. Truthfully, I have more respect for those who give me the pitch right away, right?

Because you're disingenuine, man. I know that you want to sell me something. So stop tooting my fucking horn. Stop telling me how good my videos are. Stop telling me how incredible it would be to work with me and what you can and this and that. I don't need it. I have friends. I don't want to be your friend.

Okay. And that's another thing too. There's a difference between friendship and there's a difference between business relationships. Right. I have friends. I don't need any more friends. I would like business relationships. So if you just came out and said, hey, man, I edit videos.

I think I can edit something in your style. Would you be interested in that? Instead of turning around and going, fuck you, you don't know what you're talking about. This is how you outreach to people, you dumb idiot, blah, blah, blah,

how people like to do. Just say, hey, man, no thanks. But maybe if you stay in touch with me, I could probably push you in the direction that somebody would need your services. I love that.

It's that simple. Yeah. That simple. You know, I get, yeah, I click, on my my request box this morning i make it a habit to always click on my on my request box every

single day yeah and you know i had probably 20 of them and most of them were like hey hey sexy hey that's deleted i'm not even going to i already know what that is okay and as like hey i can grow your account by 10 000 for only 100 bucks yeah those are i'm not i'm not even interested in are available to even having that conversation, right, with how they started it out. Yeah. And this is just kind of like something I deal with constantly. But I mean, you know, a lot of people, like, I don't like when they lie. I will push back when they lie.

But if they just said, hey, Sean, really like your content. I'm looking for new business partners. Just starting my business out. I would love to have the opportunity to create maybe five videos for you. no cost to see if it's something you'd be interested in to possibly work together on a partnership. Hey, absolutely, absolutely. Let's check. Set up at Zoom.

Like, I think there's a way to do it, right? There's a way, and it's, and it's quite honestly, just by asking questions, right? It's when you go into insulting people like, hey, how's business? Like, dude, just ask what you want. Like, just ask. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, like, dude, you don't know these people. You don't know them well enough to, hey, how sales?

Like, what right do you have to ask that, right? Or, you know, but, but again, to your point, you don't have to come back and be a dick. Yeah. I know people that, that just embarrass these people on, on, you know, DMs. And I just, I don't think that's cool, man. No, it's definitely not. Necessary. It's like, look, you know, they're out trying to do.

Now, I will, I'll tell you who I will bury. is those motherfuckers out there making fake pages of me. Let's talk about this shit. Because I don't know, dude. How many fake Sean French has hit you up in the last four or five months? I think it's just been the one. I feel like I've seen two. Oh, you're lucky.

I think there might have been two. I've only seen the one. But one came out of me too, right? You know, which was interesting. And then somebody ended up making a joke about it and saying like, well, you know, you've made it when, right? But at the end of the day, it's like, you know, if I feel bad, I truly feel bad and I feel sorry for the people that fall for that, that fall for those pages.

Like, if I, like, I guess here are some things to look out for, right? let's say you don't know who I am let's say you've never seen my page you've never seen my videos if my videos look that good do you honestly think I only have zero to three videos right and and I might not have all the followers in the world but is it not safe to say that I probably have more than like, you know, more than 50 to 100, right? So. But here's the crazy thing, though. Like, let me interject real quick.

These fuckers are getting creative. Oh, they are. They are. Bro, like they, I had one. And by the way, the real number is 20. There have been 20 fake pages. Wow. Right.

And one day, I mean, one week was exhausting. There was like eight of them in one week. And I was just like, oh, my. God, this is overwhelming. But here's the thing that they're doing. They're taking, like, 80 of my posts, and they will do it in succession. So it looks just like my page. Yes.

And then they will go by, like, 30,000 followers. Yeah, right. Yeah. But, dude, I'll hammer them. Like, because sometimes they mess around and follow my, they don't block my determined society, my, my, my, um, podcast page. And I'll FaceTime them from that bitch. Like it all just freaking hose them.

Yeah, just like, you motherfucker. And you know what it usually is? It's usually someone in a third world country, dude. Like they're in dirt. Yeah, they're in dirt playing in dirt. Like, dude, like, what the fuck? Like, it's not like a person. It's not like people like just us.

It's like people that you wouldn't even think would have the resources to do what they're doing and they're doing it. Yeah. And it is almost impressive. But no, it pisses me off. Yeah, it's, it's, I mean, it's the, it's the feeling of like wanting to be seen and heard. That's what it is. It's the feeling of wanting to be seen and heard.

And unfortunately for those individuals, they, they're probably never going to be seen and heard the way that they want to. and they have to take someone with that spotlight. It's interesting, man. But that's your point. Yeah, I'm addicted to those people. I don't give a shit. Sure. I'm not going to be nice to them.

No, it doesn't. It's been such an amazing conversation. I want to, you know, start landing the plane as we get close to a minute 39. And, you know, I don't want these listeners to jump off because their attention span of a nat. But, you know, this is the Determine Society podcast, man. And, you know, one of the questions I'm really enjoying. asking lately is, you know, with that, what makes you a part of a determined society and why? Oh, great question.

I think that's just because I think it's simply because I create bigger, badder videos, and I'm always looking to push boundaries, and you yourself also are a boundary pusher. And I think these are the traits that you see me and yourself. And then that's what I guess aligns us to both be pushing those boundaries together and kind of creating everlasting, you know, success in regards to whatever success looks to ourselves. I love it. That's a good answer. No one's ever answered it like that before. And when I look at you, you know, because I always like to give my feedback.

I'm not saying you're wrong. That's your definition. That's your definition. I love it. Boundary pushing, right? For me, is your ability to be innovative. Okay. You're going to be innovative and to recreate a different career just because you decide you need to.

There's a lot of individuals out there that won't be able to take what they've done in DJing and bring it into a successful video business. like you have. It is it is a skill. It is determination. It is grit and innovative. Like that to me is when I look at you and I think, okay, that's what makes lefty a part of the determined society. And I have been blessed to have you on my show and to share your story with the audience, with my opinion, the best audience on the globe. It's growing in this. This show is trending and it's exploding. And, dude, I am here for this shit.

I love it, man. I love the amazing feedback we've been getting with all of my guests. And this is going to be no different. You know, I just appreciate you so much, man. And, you know, with that, a couple more questions before we, you know, we're in the plane here. How can my audience best support you? Ah, best support me. well. I mean, the two, the two that come to mind is, you know, follow me on Instagram,

you know, be engaging, follow me, subscribe to my YouTube channel. Again, be engaging, be a part of that community. I'm super community driven, especially with YouTube, maybe not so much with Instagram because Instagram I keep a little bit more fabricated. But my YouTube channel is one big fucking AMA dude. Like there are people that hit me up all the time. Hey, I need question, a question answered on this

video topic. Boom. Next week, I literally make a video about that. Like, I address my audience as questions on YouTube and I will make videos about it, right? I'm not, I don't let questions go

like fall on deaf ears. I mean, okay, mind you, if I have a schedule or if I have something in mind that I need to get to, sure, maybe your question might not get answered right away in a video, but I'm always, I always try my best to, like, involve my audience and what it is that they're doing, where it's almost like, yes, I'm creating those videos, but you're creating them with me. Yeah, yeah. That's a really good point, man.

There's a lot of individuals out there that don't even acknowledge their audience, right? It's almost they're entitled to it, right? And when you, you know, come out there and make content based on one of your community members' questions, man, there's a big win in that for that person. They feel heard, right? They feel like their voice has been spoken on a larger YouTube channel or, you know, some from somebody of your, of your stature in your business. So I love that, dude. I love that. That is great.

Yeah. Oh, I was just going to say, like, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'll give an example if we have if we have time for it like yeah sure there was um so I remember playing in Miami because this is the way you got to understand right like when you're creating content you're not creating content for you're creating content for somebody else right so but but a lot of people have the the misunderstanding of what that means so I so let's rewind you know 10 15 years ago. I'm in Miami. I'm DJing. I have a dance floor full of people. And what ended up happening was I started playing music that I wanted to play. And I did and I disregarded my dance floor

because the way I looked at it was, well, you're there for me. And because you're there for me, I'm going to perform what I want to perform. Now, that is completely wrong. Not even halfway through my set. I think it was like within the first 15 minutes of my set, I ended up going into this one track, which I'm a very big Afro house kind of guy. I love my drums.

I love my percussion. I love my snares, my bongos and all that. And I play this one track in the corner of my eye, I see a group of girls at the bar and the asses are slowly starting to shake. I see a little bit of hit movement, right? And all of a sudden I go, okay, I need to play on this, right? So I continued that rhythm. I continued that set. Those girls now brought another 30, 40 girls to the floor.

once I started playing for the women, guess what happened? The men started the flock. And that's how I realized at, again, like the age of like 23, 24, that no matter what you do, it's not about you, it's about them. That's a great point and a mic drop, my friend. I absolutely love it. Guys, you heard it here first and you heard it best from my boy. lefty who is a video sales Jedi and listen if you were going through your something going through

something in your life right now you want to take the next step you want to be more do more in your life make the fucking call guys don't sit there and wait because there's never going to be a perfect time execute make the call with that being said guys i love you very much and i'll see you soon