Determined Society with Shawn French | Adversity & Mindset - Unmasking the Performative: Jordan Syatt Uncovers the Truth Behind Social Media
Episode Date: October 23, 2023Unmasking the Performative: Jordan Syatt Uncovers the Truth Behind Social Media In a world where filters and carefully curated profiles reign supreme, one man dared to challenge the illusion. Jordan... Syatt, a social media maverick, peeled back the layers to reveal a shocking truth. As he delved into the depths of the digital realm, he discovered that behind the flawless façades were broken hearts and hidden insecurities. But little did he know, the journey he embarked upon would lead him to an unexpected twist, one that would forever change his perspective. Brace yourself, for within this tale lies a revelation that will leave you yearning for more. My special guest is Jordan Syatt Jordan Syatt is a game-changer in the fitness industry, with a refreshing approach to social media and mental wellness. Known for his authenticity and no-nonsense attitude, Jordan brings a much-needed dose of realness to the table. With over ten years of experience, he understands the pressures of social media and the toll it can take on our mental health. Jordan's mission is to help individuals develop a healthy relationship with food and their bodies, without the need for extreme measures or self-deprivation. His content is a breath of fresh air, offering practical advice and debunking common myths in the fitness world. As a guest on The Determined Society podcast, Jordan Syatt brings his unique perspective and relatable personality to inspire and empower listeners to navigate the performative nature of social media and find their own path to success. If you're the person who won't have cake at your daughter's birthday because you're scared it's going to make you fat, that is a very unhealthy relationship with food, not only for you, but also for your daughter. - Jordan Syatt In this episode, you will be able to: Discover the importance of authenticity and how it can positively impact your social media presence. Learn how to navigate the performative nature of social media and find your own voice. Understand the value of honesty and authenticity in building genuine connections with your online audience. Find balance and moderation in your food choices to promote a healthy relationship with food. Explore the performative nature of social media and gain insights on how to be true to yourself while still engaging with the platform. Discover the benefits of being authentic on social media and how it can lead to more meaningful connections. Learn practical strategies for achieving balance and moderation in your food choices, leading to a healthier lifestyle. Gain awareness of the pressures of social media and learn techniques to navigate them with confidence. Explore the performative nature of social media and discover ways to stand out while remaining true to yourself. Unlock the value of honesty and authenticity in building a genuine and engaged social media following. Importance of authenticity Authenticity is about being honest, genuine, and true to your own values and beliefs. In today's highly connected society, it can be challenging to maintain authenticity when faced with societal pressures and the desire for acceptance. However, as Shawn and Jordan discuss in this episode, the pursuit of authenticity—being true to oneself and rejecting societal pressures—is vital for personal growth and fulfillment. They inspire individuals to define their own path for success, which aligns with their personal values and goals. Performative nature of social media Social media has become an integral part of contemporary life, often serving as the primary platform for self-expression and communication. However, the performative nature of social media can amplify societal pressures and the obsession with perfection, potentially affecting mental health negatively. In their discussion, Shawn and Jordan address this issue, emphasizing the need to stay true to oneself and resist the pressure to conform to the prevailing narratives on social media. Healthy relationship with food A healthy relationship with food is about more than just what you eat—it encompasses everything from the way you think and feel about food, to the ways you choose to prepare and enjoy it. It involves recognizing food as a source of nutrition and enjoyment, not as an enemy to be feared or controlled. In this episode, Jordan Syatt emphasizes the importance of balance and sustainability in nutrition, cautioning against the extremes of restrictive diets and advocating for consistently making good choices over time. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Today, guys, I have with me an unbelievable guest.
My niece introduced me to this guy via Instagram about a year and a half ago.
And me and this gentleman have struck up a friendship over the last year.
I can't believe it's been a year since we've been friends.
We've recently, we actually recorded this show before.
we're like, you know what? We really don't like it because it didn't really show our bond.
It didn't show who we were as friends. And so I'm here today with one of the dudes that I respect in
the fitness space so much because he's authentic. He's funny as fuck. He doesn't give his shit what other
people think. And all he's really worried about truly is giving out real information to help people
hit their fitness goals and not lose their mind and starve themselves while doing it. So without
further ado, I want to introduce my boy, Jordan Sai, to the show. What's up, homie?
What's up, man? Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. I'm excited. We can be on and just
chill and have a good conversation. I'm excited. So thank you for having me. I'm Jack, man. It's
funny because when we recorded this show like a year ago, you know how it is, man. It's like the first 15
minutes. Yeah. You don't know this person. You're trying to figure out if I'm real. I'm trying to
figure out if you have that same energy that you put out. Exactly. And I think what we found,
dude is over the last year that when we when we started being friends it's just like dude we're
we are we are super aligned and want to make sure whatever we put out is going to bless and give
the utmost i guess information to the audience and in community as possible and we are who we are
where it's like what we put out on social media is it's actually who you are in real per in real life
which for me that was i think early on in my
social media days because I started making content like 2011.
Early on when I started meeting people who are also putting out content, I was like,
wow, this person is literally nothing like they are online.
And so when you do meet someone who also makes content and is also like, oh, like,
that's actually what they're like in real life.
It's very refreshing.
Dude, it's hard, man, because I can really relate to this, right?
So I've talked to many individuals virtually and had all these great conversations.
but I've always noticed, man, like even the big ones, right?
The big ones.
Like, dude, we can go down this rabbit hole if you want.
But, like, I've had conversations with people that have high energy on their, on their content.
And then I get them free recordings like, they're like, yeah, what's up?
You ready to do this?
It's like, well, now, since I'm so inspired to have this conversation with you and share you with my fucking community, yeah, let's do it, asshole.
Yeah.
Dude, it's just so, for me, it's just so your point is spot on because.
I am the same no matter where I go.
Correct.
Like they're the same.
And that's why you and I have gotten close is because we can tell the energy, right?
It's like, okay, well, you know, if I ran into you at a mall, it'd be the same.
Right.
Exactly.
And dude, like, I think that freaks people out when you think you're getting a certain energy and then you meet a person and it's like completely different.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's jarring.
Bro.
Like, why do you think that is, man?
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And I was a young kid when I started.
I was in my young 20s.
And I got a piece of advice that was to date probably the worst piece of advice
I ever got in my life.
There was someone who I looked up to in the industry at the time.
And basically I was asking for advice on social media.
And I swear to God, he said, you want to act like you are a movie star
and that your life is perfect and it's always interesting and fun.
And I remember hearing this and being like,
wait really he's like you have to act like you're the star of a movie and that and you want people to just be
jealous of what you're doing all the time and and i remember like it didn't sit well with me but
that's i think by nature of how social media works and especially with how it's progressed
technologically and how people often use it in a way to you know we all hear like the highlight real
thing it's true i think it's become very performative and and people think that in order to quote
unquote succeed because what are the markers of success? People think success is having more followers
and that leads to more happiness and it's just not the case at all. They're completely separate.
It's not like you can't be happy and have more followers, but if you're unhappy with having very few
followers, then you're also going to be unhappy with having a lot of followers. And so I think people
have this idea that, oh, if I have more followers, I'll be more happy. So I have to put on this
performance in order to get more followers. And then it just goes down this terrible, terrible rabbit
whole, which is why when you meet someone who is exactly like they are online, it's very refreshing.
There are different words that I've noticed in my comment sections over the years that have
stood out to me.
And so in the last probably three to four years, a very common word that I think many people
relate to is just real.
This person is very real.
When you are who you are, even if that person says something you disagree with,
You appreciate and respect that they're being real with you, that they're being honest.
And that is something that I think is a great sign of progress from a societal perspective
because many times as soon as someone says something you disagree with, you're like,
well, fuck that person.
But now it's less about, oh, I don't like them because I disagree with them.
It's like, I like them, even though I disagree with them because they feel comfortable enough
in who they are to be honest about it.
I mean, for example, I just, I did a podcast recently and I was talking about the Israel-Palestinian conflict and talking about Second Amendment and everything.
And I'm very, very pro-Second Amendment for many different reasons.
Sure.
But one of the women who commented, she was like, listen, I disagree with you vehemently on the Second Amendment, but I love so much that you are open and honest about it and that you are not trying to hide it and pander to both sides.
And then she said, how can I support you?
Like, do you do coaching?
like what can I buy for you just because she wanted to support the honesty.
It's like that is the greatest, greatest level of humanity showing you that like, listen,
even though we disagree, I just appreciate that you're being honest.
Dude, I mean, so many great points.
And first of all, like I don't want to glance over it.
Like, dude, you know, I'm thinking about you.
You know, I'm throwing you love and prayers and, you know, sending you text.
I was sitting here one night.
I'm like, dude, I got to check on my boy.
Thank you.
That meant a lot.
And dude, and I know you're probably getting it everywhere.
I didn't want to be like everybody else, but like, dude, you know, me, I mean it.
So it's just, you know, I've been thinking about you.
But, but that word real, right?
And it's something that I feel that, because everybody talks about it.
And the word is authenticity.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everybody talks about it, you know, and being genuine.
And it's almost like all these major influencers are, are, or these with big platforms.
And these entrepreneurs that have done a great job building something, you know, in their life as far as a product or it could be, you know, you know,
a software platform, it could be a sales, you know, sales program, whatever it is,
it doesn't mean they should be leading people and, you know, everybody understanding or like,
you know, flocking to them for advice. It doesn't mean shit. Like, have these people,
they don't have everything that they say they're having. Correct. And they don't have their
fucking shit together. At all. Right. I at all. And for those of you listening right now,
like, we're not talking about middle of the road people. We're talking. We're talking.
about people that you think that you that come across your feed that you just want to admire
and be a part of.
You don't want any part of these assholes.
No,
no,
no,
none.
Because they fucking sold their soul,
man.
They sold their soul.
They're not,
like,
this is one of the biggest,
biggest thing is that I was at an event very recently.
I hate that.
It was called like this influencer event.
And in order to be invited,
you have to have a certain number of followers,
whatever.
So fucking stupid.
It was stupid,
uh,
in terms of the,
the name. I actually, I enjoyed overall the event. I enjoyed the guy who put it together. I admire him a lot.
But man, I was directly interacting with many people that have hundreds of thousands or millions of
followers that put out this view of happiness and wholeness and completeness. And I'm Jewish. I'm a
religious guy. So I have nothing against that. But a lot of these people put out this,
I'm holier than thou type mentality and that, oh, I'm very religious.
and I'm very, I'm very like moral and ethical.
And then you meet them in person.
And these are some of the most vain, most unhappy, most rude, conceited individuals you could ever imagine meeting in your entire life.
And it's so different than what they put out online that it's hard to imagine that it could be real.
Like it's when you're following someone, it's hard to imagine that they could be different than they are.
But they've gotten so good at putting on this face and putting on this mask that's like it's,
it's pretty crazy.
I mean, and a way to think about it would be,
I think we've all probably been in part of a relationship,
whether a romantic or friendship or something,
where you first meet someone and you're like,
oh, this person's great.
And it doesn't take long to all of a sudden be like,
well, that doesn't make sense and that doesn't make sense.
And that goes against what they said.
That goes against what they said.
And all of a sudden,
the person that you first thought you knew
is a completely different individual.
This is very often what happens online.
It's very often what happens.
I can tell you, I mean,
I could tell you some of the individuals I've met that match, right?
You, David Meltzer, Bezos Kulian, Amberley Lago.
Like, I've met him.
Yeah.
I know them.
Like, I've been in a room with Bezos recording an episode.
Same dude.
Yeah.
In fact, even more kind in person, to be quite honest.
Yeah.
I'm not saying he doesn't have that strong side of him, but he was one of the nicest cats ever, dude.
Like, he was just there, like I felt to serve me.
And I'm like, wait a second, dude.
Like, I'm here to interview you.
Like, this is really cool, man.
Like, he had a gift and everything waiting for me.
Like, it was nuts, right?
You know, it's really cool.
So, you know, but the idea of real, man, we keep going back to that real or, you know, the
raw authenticity.
I think a lot of times, you know, people find these words or these topics to talk about
on social media that they feel is going to get in clicks.
And it really agitates me.
Most recently, we're talking about, you know, the Israel and the Gaza.
conflict, you know, all of a sudden, people that built out software platforms are talking about this.
It's like, why are we not staying in our lane here? Like, what is going on? Like, all of a sudden,
now you're, you're predicting World War III, like, you know what the fuck you're talking about.
Not saying they're wrong. I'm not, listen, I can see all sides of the issues, right? Like,
okay, like, if you think this is going to happen, like, I can see it. It's scary right now. The world is
scary. But like the problem is is people are so tone deaf to realize that people are actually
going to follow them and take whatever they're saying as actual news. And that that to me scares
the hell out of me to a point where I saw these big individuals on the platforms talking about
October 4th and how we're going to turn to zombies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like what do you? My issue. So
and I see this with literally every political commentary. The Israel Palestinian one is
one obviously that hits home to me. I've studied my whole life.
It's arguably the single most complex geopolitical situation in the entire world.
It's the most complex conflict geopolitically.
Like the effects are so wide sweeping and so complex down to the history of it.
It's very few people actually understand.
And I think what's important, remember, is we've all played the game telephone, right?
We've all played that game.
And we all understand like, okay, so once we get to the end of the circuit,
is probably going to be a little bit different than or maybe even very different than what started at the beginning of circle.
And this is all within a matter of like a minute.
We learned that in second grade.
Right.
In second grade.
So imagine now people are are being fed insane amounts of propaganda from usually one of the two sides.
And they're not only not the propaganda is not only incorrect, but then they're misinterpreting the propaganda.
And then now we have people who have no understanding of history, no understanding of the conflict, who are just spewing.
off stuff because they're scared or because they want attention because they want to optimize
on this this conflict themselves. It's very scary. I think most people who are just
resharing and posting these propaganda clips from either side have no clue what the hell they're
talking about and it's actually making the situation way worse. No, it truly is. And like I'm the
first one to say like this, like you say, geopolitically, this conflict is way out of my depth. Like I don't
I don't know, right?
And I'm not going to begin, you know, to talk about it like I do know.
Right.
And I think that's the problem nowadays in society.
Everybody thinks that they need to have that know it all.
But the one thing that you said that scares the absolute hell out of me, dude, is simply this.
When these things happen, when these conflicts happen, or COVID or the zombie apocalypse
of October 4th, 2023.
Yeah, we're making fun of you guys.
In case you guys haven't figured out, if you're listening to this, like,
Like, we are making fun of you right now.
We're both satire, sons of bitches.
Smart asses.
That's why we get along.
Anyway, I just have more hair.
So, but Jay, listen, man, the thing that scares me is when things happen that these other individuals feel that they need to use it as clout.
Yeah.
That scares me.
Like, this isn't a situation that I think needs to be all over social media.
by people they don't know what the fuck's going on.
Correct.
I don't know.
That's just me, dude.
Do you know who Anthony Jesselnik is?
No, I don't.
He's a comedian.
I love stand-up comedy.
And he is a unique stand-up comedian that he's very dark.
Like his humor is super dark.
I like that.
Like I enjoy it.
I have dark humor.
It's, you know, it's, if someone gets easily offended, they should not listen.
Disclaimer.
humor is one of the best ways to deal with dark times and dark issues.
And he does that, I think, better than anybody else.
It's very dark humor.
But one of the things that he talks about how is, like, whether it's a massacre or a school shooting or whatever it is,
there's always the people that feel the need to go out and be like, oh, like, go on social media and like, oh, my thoughts and prayers are with these people, my thoughts and prayers.
And he made an amazing point where he was like, you're taking a situation that's terrible.
and he framed this in a very funny way.
But you're taking a situation that's terrible
where kids have been killed
and innocent people have been killed
and you're saying,
I want you to give me attention.
It's like,
if you have thoughts and prayers,
you don't need to put that on social media.
You could just keep that between you and God,
you and your family.
Like, you can just keep that.
You don't have to go on your story
or on your Twitter or whatever
and be like, thoughts and prayers go out
to so-and-so people.
Because what you're doing is like,
oh, don't forget about me.
Like make sure you like this post.
Give me attention.
It's like it doesn't it's and it's I think a lot of people are seeing so much of the awful stuff going on and are like, wait, wait, but where's my attention?
You're not paying attention to me anymore.
You're not looking at what I'm saying right now.
So it's like, what can I say now to make myself relevant in this catastrophic environment?
Dude, that that's true, man.
And it's a great point.
And one of my other favorites is the virtue signaling.
The filming while I'm giving somebody money.
Oh my God.
I hate that.
Like what the fuck are you doing?
You're not, you're clearly not doing it.
I hate that.
You're doing it for two reasons, right?
Two reasons.
One, you just want attention.
You're a narcissistic son of a bitch.
Yep.
Two, right?
Two, that everybody already thinks you're an asshole,
so you're trying to show them that you're not.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I can't stand it when, like,
people show out, like, they're going to, like,
they do the whole thing.
I'm going to give my waiter, like, this amount of money,
and they have to film the whole thing,
or I'm going to go, like, it's like, I don't know.
Why don't you just do it and not say anything about it?
Yeah.
Which this,
bring this is a whole philosophical discussion like is there anything like does selflessness
actually exist is there a way to be selfless and this is a whole deep philosophical discussion but
even if you're giving charity it's coming from a selfish place because people will be like well no
i'm giving charity because it feels good well yeah it feels good so it's selfish it feels good to give
charity so and so that leads the discussion well is selfishness bad no being selfish can be a wonderful
wonderful thing. Sometimes you have to be selfish in order for you to be able to give more.
Like if you if you don't have the means to provide for yourself and your family, then you're
definitely not going to have the means to give to charity and giving a charity is a wonderful thing.
And sometimes in order to develop that means, you need to be selfish. But it's not that
selfishness is a bad thing. But the idea that you're doing things purely out of selflessness,
that's not true. Like that's deep, bro. Yeah. That's just going to blow, that's going to melt
people's minds right now. Like this asshole, I'm not selfless. I'm self, no, I don't think anyone is.
No, I don't, I think you're right, dude. Like, I don't, when I do things for my family or anybody,
I'm doing it because I want to make them happy. Yeah. You know, I want to help them,
but I also want to feel good about what I'm doing that. And why do you want to make them happy?
It's like, because I give a shit because exactly. Exactly. It comes back to you. It's like,
some people can get triggered by that, but to me, it's like, oh my God, that makes sense.
right exactly if i go and give a million dollars to pancreatic cancer research yep i'm not doing it
just for that correct i'm selfish my grandmother and my ex-girlfriend died of pancreatic cancer
like it doesn't mean it's bad no it's not right so like everybody listening right now
like i want you to really think about that right what jay is saying is like dude it's not bad
like really think about it you don't you're doing the
these things on social media platforms or giving to charity just as a selfless act.
Like Jay and myself aren't doing this completely selflessly.
Like we get something out of this too.
Of course.
Yeah.
Like so it's selfish.
Yep.
I'm, I, dude, that that's going to be way too deep for a lot of people, bro.
Like that, that right there is just going to be way too much.
People have that we, we've, as a society, have placed the word selfish has a very close
like connotation with bad, but selfish.
doesn't necessarily mean bad. And that's what we have to get over. We have to remove the idea
that doing something selfishly is inherently bad. I think it's a spectrum. Like, you can, on one end
of the spectrum, you could be so selfish and so self-centered and so focused that literally
everything you do is solely for you and nothing else and no good can come from it. And you become
very manipulative and very controlling. And then on the other end of the spectrum, you don't want to
do anything selfish whatsoever. But then as a result of it, you don't do anything at all. Like you
don't help people because you think, well, I don't want to be selfish and I know I'm doing it for me.
So essentially, both ends of the spectrum are bad, whereas the closer you get to the middle,
surprise, surprise, the more you can have a balance of selflessness and selfishness and understand
that it's not inherently good or bad one way or another.
You can actually be a helpful member of society to help other people, but also help yourself.
And so if you're giving money to cancers and charities and there's a selfish aspect to it,
but you're also helping other people in need who wouldn't have gotten that help otherwise,
I'd say it's a pretty damn good thing.
Dude, isn't it funny how over the years we can redefine words
and give more power to the negative connotation of those words
instead of what the actual words mean?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, like, dude, like, it's like that, right?
And that's a mindset thing.
That's perspective, right?
I mean, that's one of the things that I love about, you know,
doing the podcasting is learning more about people's mindset, right?
And, you know, as you know, I help athletes.
that have those performance anxiety issues.
A lot of the things that I dealt with when I played Division I
baseball, yes, again, it helps them, but it also heals me.
Yes, exactly.
It heals me.
Like, every time I'm helping one of my athletes, especially baseball players
that are playing in the SEC on a one-on-one call, like, I feel good about it
because I feel a part of me heals, you know, like, wow, like I went through that.
So let's shift a little bit, right?
So I really want to talk about mindset as it pertains to fitness and health, man, because you tackle that a lot.
And I don't know if individuals are smart enough to really take that from you when you're, you know, you're doing your sats.
A lot of your shit is funny as hell.
Like you're nuts, dude.
One of my friends knows that you and I are close and he sent me a message.
He's fucking doing it again is when you did the 30 days of spiking your.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And you still lost weight.
Yeah.
Some of the shit you do is just so damn funny, dude.
But like, let's talk about the mindset because that is a mindset, right?
So talk to us, what, you know, some of the ideas surrounding it.
What were you really trying to show?
I mean, the main thing is, so my whole philosophy, especially when it comes to nutrition,
is that you can enjoy your favorite foods in moderation and still be healthy.
And I actually think the example that people will say like, oh, well, this food is bad.
Like you can't have pizza or you can't have candy or you can't have ice cream.
And right now, sugar.
is like the big demon in society.
You can't have sugar.
Sugar is bad so much so that there are people saying don't eat fruit because it has sugar.
It's just like for fuck's sake, how many people do you know who got fat from eating fruit?
And obviously like no one, no one gained 50 pounds like, yeah, it was the blueberry.
Oh shit, bro, you're fucking fat as hell.
What happened?
Yeah.
Bro, I ate a whole watermelon.
Exactly.
No one.
Ever.
So my main thing is I want people to have a healthy relationship with food.
And I very much believe that if you're the person who won't have cake at your daughter's birthday because you're scared it's going to make you fat, that is a very unhealthy relationship with food.
Not only for you, but also for your daughter.
If your daughter sees that you're not going to have a slice of cake because you're scared that it's going to make you fat, it's a disease.
It's called orthorexia nervosa.
When you're so scared of God forbid having a slice of fucking cake at your daughter's birthday party that you don't do that, or maybe you do it, but then you feel like you need to go.
run for five hours to take care of the damage that you did and damage being in quotes.
This is not a healthy relationship with food.
And in all aspects of life, I think people understand we need balance, but always saying no
and never being able to have a piece of cake or ice cream or pizza without anxiety,
that's not balanced.
That's not healthy.
And I want people to be able to enjoy their favorite foods in moderation.
Not only eat Twinkies, not only eat cake, the majority of your diet should be whole,
minimally. My main thing is I want people to have a healthy relationship with food. And I very much believe that if you're the person who won't have cake at your daughter's birthday because you're scared it's going to make you fat, that is a very unhealthy relationship with food. Not only for you, but also for your daughter. If your daughter sees that you're not going to have a slice of cake because you're scared that's going to make fat, there's a disease called orthorexia and nervosa when you're so scared of God forbid having a slice of fucking cake at your daughter's birthday party. It's like those moments.
Or like maybe you do it
But then you feel like you need to go run for five hours
To take care of the damage that you did
Well it's already 6.30 and you know
In all aspects of life
I think people understand we need balance
But always saying no and never be able to have a piece of cake or ice cream or pizza without anxiety
Damn
She read my mind.
This is fucking awesome.
But like it's funny because you know and again I want to ask you where this comes
from because I can remember, you know, training as an athlete, you know, Division I
One athlete at Louisiana State University. I never once counted a fucking calorie. I never once
thought about my fucking macros. And I'm not debunking that it works. I'm not. I understand
science gets better. Technology gets better. We're able to pinpoint. What's going to build more
lean muscle tissue. How we're going to burn more fat. I get it. But like, it just seems to me,
over the last four years,
it's exploded to a point where,
you know, you have,
and I'm not,
I'm not coming at the guy because he'll crush me,
but Andy Fricela.
Yeah, right.
And, you know, 75 hard.
And, you know, even Bajros,
um,
was this new one,
Andy Elliott guy.
Psychopath, right?
You got a six pack or you're fucking fired.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh my gosh.
That's stupid.
That's,
that, that to me is a,
is a red flag.
I'm sorry,
it is.
But like,
it's almost like social media
brought this,
you know,
need for perfection
and nutrition and,
in body image.
And dude,
like,
it even affects me.
Like,
sometimes, like,
I feel like I'm at the gym,
like,
oh my God,
I'm not completely shredded up.
Like,
like,
like,
you know,
like,
so now I'm not disciplined.
Like,
dude,
this is,
this is causing
some fucking mental wear and tear,
dude.
Yeah.
Yeah,
talks me about that.
I mean,
I mean,
I mean,
I think the fitness industry is, I believe, over a $20 billion a year industry.
And that might even be an old statistic.
It's probably more now.
And I think with social media and now anyone being able to say they're a personal trainer,
just by they go on it, they open their Instagram, they edit their bio and say,
I'm a coach, whatever, anyone can do it.
I think people are realizing that, number one, there's a lot of money to be made in that industry,
potentially if you know what you're doing
and even if you don't know what you're doing
someone can have no clue what they're doing
and actually make a lot of money
if they like look the part
but I think what we're seeing
is a hyper focus on it
far more than we have in years prior
which is also interesting because
even though we're hyper focused on it
as a society obesity rates are higher
than they've ever been
which I think is a very interesting thing to look at
we are hyper focused on aesthetics
and fat loss and how we look and fitness more than ever but we're also fatter than ever
and and it's it's a growing problem no pun intended it's it's a growing issue where we're more and
more people and i think it's it's what's going on is we have more information than we've ever had
more readily available all these people on youtube and instagram and podcast and twitter putting out
all this fitness information but we also have a massive rise in
food science. And this is what a lot of people don't understand about food is that these companies,
whether it's Twinkies or chip companies or Coca-Cola or candies, whatever it is, these companies
spend hundreds of millions of dollars designing foods that are going to be hyper-palatable,
that are going to be ridiculously, ridiculously hard to put down. They advertise them at you.
They advertise them at your children. They make them very, very easy to buy,
very easy to overeat.
And so it becomes increasingly more difficult to just have one.
And some of them,
that's even part of their marketing campaign,
like Pringles.
Like once you pop,
you just can't stop.
Right?
It's like,
it's next to impossible to just like,
how many,
have you ever just had one Oreo?
Like,
of course not.
No, one,
hold on.
Let's clarify,
J.
A regular Oreo,
yes,
double stuff,
fuck you,
game over.
I'm getting a whole sleeve.
The whole sleeve is gone.
Like it's,
it's done.
Yeah.
And if I just have a regular Oreo,
then I just take it apart and put it together to make it a double stuff.
But I would never buy a regular Oreo because they suck compared to double stuff.
It's like, why would you even waste your money?
That's same person.
It's scary.
We have all of this information.
And then we have all of this, this highly processed, highly, highly, highly, highly palatable food.
And then now more than ever, everything is so convenient.
You can get your groceries delivered right to your house.
You can work from home, sit on your ass all day.
Like now more than ever, we're moving less.
eating more and have all of this extra knowledge that very few people actually putting in
practice, which leads to where we are now with this obesity epidemic, this real, real health
crisis, and also a hyper focus on fitness.
It's such a weird place that we're in as a society.
Love you so much.
I also have my theories.
Okay, let's hear it.
So I have this theory that everybody's focused on doing all the shit, right?
Like you're going from zero to a thousand.
And you're trying to come out of the gate and do all these things and restrict so much and just take everything, removing everything from their diet.
I'm not touching cheese.
It makes you fat.
I'm not touching a diet coat because it gives you cancer.
I'm not eating pizza because, you know, the follicles in your testing.
She's a fucking inflame.
And that's how you don't shit.
And that's how you get bloated and get fat.
Like, we're doing too fucking much.
Correct.
And so what happens is, is all.
these people, myself included in the past, go on these hardcore things, whether it's whole 30,
which, I mean, we should be eating whole 30 anyway, right? We just don't know how to fucking eat
in America, right? We should eat in the whole foods, right? With a little bit of, you know,
minimally, you know, processed foods, just like you said. But we go on this all or nothing thing.
And we do the 75 hards. We do all these other things. And you know how many times I've done 75 hard?
I get it mentally cool. But the.
bottom line is it it didn't work for me because the swing back the other way it's so fucking
hard. Correct. Like you look good. I got down to 179. I looked emaciated. And then within like
four months, I'm back to, you know, 205. I'm like, what the fuck just happened? And so to me,
we're really fucking with our body, right? When we're when we're starving it. Yeah. Over exercising, over
training because yes fitness psychopath that is really a thing okay um you over train your body and then
all of a sudden you stop because you just can't move anymore maybe you hurt an ankle maybe something
happens and the real people in life understand that no if you're hurt you should probably not go
work out but the psychopaths tell you to like you're a bitch if you don't go correct it's an
No, it's not, guys.
And I just feel that that psychological twist to everything and what people have the availability to see on their screen every day and think what's real, kind of creates to that too.
100%.
Absolutely.
We're both right.
It goes hand in hand.
I mean, they're not even competing issues.
They're like both of those things like play into each other.
And I think what we're seeing is something like 75 hard.
People love challenges.
Like mentally, they love challenges.
The issue is hopefully you have more than 75 days to live.
And when people start with something like 75 hard or a 30 day challenge, 21 day challenge,
the mindset is I'm going to go hard as hard as I can.
It's in the name for 75 days, 30 days, 21 days, whatever it is.
And I will not quote unquote, I won't eat bad foods.
I will not have this.
I will not have that.
I will work out two times a day, just like in the program.
And the countdown begins.
It counts out, day 74, day 73, day 72, day 71.
Like, the countdown begins until I can have these foods again,
until I don't need to work out this hard again,
until I can enjoy my life again.
It becomes an amount of time in which you're willing to suffer,
but you're not willing to suffer for the rest of your life.
And the reality is you don't need to suffer your whole life
in order to be healthy.
Yeah. Rather than 75 hard, I'd rather you have 5,000 pretty damn good, right? So like rather than 75 days of just super hard, ridiculously intense, how about 5,000 days in a row of like, you're doing good? It wasn't perfect, but like it was good. You got your step in. You moved. Even if it was a 30 minute walk, you moved. Five thousand days in. Stayed hydrated. Ate some protein. Maybe just some strength training a couple days of the week. Like 5,000 pretty good is infinitely better than 75 hard.
which goes to my saying it's like inconsistently, consistently good is infinitely better than
inconsistently perfect.
I love that.
You know, and a lot of it too, man, and everybody knows I'm a first form guy.
You know, that's the supplements I take.
They, you know, I have a partnership with them.
But, you know, like I've been very upfront.
I'm not doing 75 again, right?
Because I would rather.
And here's the thing, man.
We need to do less every single day, but do it consistently.
Correct.
That's that compounding effect.
And people don't realize that that, and a lot of times, dude, I have to tell myself, you know, like, I think it's been four weeks since I've been in the gym consistently blew out my shoulder again.
Like, I have, I got, dude, I've got so many baseball injuries.
It's ridiculous.
So for me, like, even if I do like a raise, like, right when I get here, I feel like someone's stabbing me right in my rotation.
So I have a tear in my subscap, super splenatus, and a suspected tear.
My labor, right?
Which the only way I can find out if there's a real tear in my labrum is in our Iowa contrast.
And I don't know if I'm ready to do that.
So I've been doing dry needling, you know, all that stuff, right?
And it's working.
I can I can lift a little bit.
But what it did for me psychologically is like shut me down.
Yeah.
You know, it shut me down.
Because I fight with the fact that if I can't go in there and lift heavy and do all
the shit that I want to do, that I ain't fucking doing it.
And here I am four weeks later, probably five to seven to eight pounds, five to ten pounds heavier.
And I'm like, okay, dude.
Like let's switch this.
It's not shame yourself though, Sean.
But like, hey, maybe, you know, on, you know, get back to the gym and just move your body a little bit and then do it again the next day.
And I think the problem that people face is when they don't feel like they're best physically and mentally, it's almost like they don't want to go to the gym because they don't want to be seen.
Correct.
I'm one of those people, dude.
Like, I'm that.
guy. What would be some of the advice you would give someone like Sean French or the people
listening that can help them through that mindset?
Yeah, I mean, number one, I appreciate how honest you're being with that because I think a lot
of people would hide that. And I think just the fact that you said it, people are going to be like,
man, that's exactly right. Like, I feel the same way. What I would say is a lot of people get
worried about what people are going to think about them at the gym. Oh, my God. Oh, they put
on weight or what are they doing? The reality is the gym is, the gym is,
the place where people go when they feel insecure.
That's why most people are there.
Most people are there because they feel insecure
with who they are.
And oftentimes people go and they think,
oh my God,
everyone's staring at me,
everyone's looking at me,
everyone's judging me.
Usually everyone is right in between
their own two ears.
Everyone is worried.
Everyone is insecure.
More importantly, though,
when you're looking back on your life,
when you're 90, 95,
if you're blessed to live to 90, 9,000,
I don't know, man.
I don't know if I will.
I don't fucking know.
If you're looking back,
are you going to be proud of yourself to look back and say,
wow,
I'm really glad that I didn't go to the gym
because I was worried about what some random person there
was going to say about me when I had put on 20 pounds,
or are you going to look back and say,
I'm really proud that I went and kept going,
even though someone might have been judging me.
And the reality is people probably aren't going to judge you.
Most people are actually really nice, really good people,
and there are some really encouraging people in the gyms.
Occasionally there's an asshole here and there,
but even if you do come face face face with an asshole someone's judging you being a dick
I guarantee you you will always be proud of yourself for continuing to go despite that person being there
rather than like letting them win that's how they win they win if you just stay home and you do nothing
and you know who loses is you because you don't get the benefits you don't like you get
deeper and deeper into this depressive state you're not happy with yourself you're not proud of
yourself and it seeps into every aspect of your life so no matter what like even if there's
going to be someone judging you. It's like, it's still worth it for you to go. You're going to be
more proud of yourself if you, if you actually get in there. What would you tell your best friend?
If your best friend was like, I don't want to go. I think someone's going to be judging me.
You'd be like, fuck them. Let's go. Let's get in there. Treat yourself like you treat your best friend.
Yeah, I would honestly say, no, that's not why. I would honestly tell them like, no, that's not why.
Yeah, you may be using that. But I think the underlying thing is, like, for me, is like, you know how it is,
man, you gain a little weight. And then you put the undies on. You go to the gym.
little tighter in the trunk area and you're looking in the mirror. I'm like, is that a fat roll?
What the fuck? And so like, I think it's more of the not wanting to be uncomfortable in public.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Feeling like a fat ass. I mean, really, like I truly don't give a fuck what Jimmy or Samantha thinks about me.
I'm 40, I'm almost 45, by the way. Okay. Three kids, a smoke show of a wife. So all these little
little chicks running around, they're fucking shorts there thinking there's something. You ain't got shit on my fucking wife.
Okay, and she's 43.
It doesn't even lift.
So you got ways to catch up, ladies.
But I mean, dude, it's just like that's the thing.
It's like everybody gets in their own head, including myself.
And I appreciate the compliment.
And that's why we're friends because I will never not get on this microphone and tell the fucking truth.
Yeah.
I just can't do it, man.
It's like, why am I even doing this if I'm, you know, putting out this persona and like,
correct.
Rewinding, rewinding 38 minutes.
We're talking about, you know, that bad advice you got earlier in your career.
I got it to.
Whoever you are, turn it up about 10 notches.
Turn up that provado.
This, I feel like a douchebag.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I start talking about things.
I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
Like, you know, giving zero value.
When people just need to understand, be yourself when you're creating a platform.
Correct.
Be who you are.
Like, you can call it authenticity.
You can call it genuine.
You can call it real.
You can call it not being a fucking liar.
I don't care what you call it.
Just show up as you.
And what you'll find is people will love you and some people won't.
And those are not your people.
And who gives a fuck about them?
That's it.
And again, you know, just be a good person, man.
Be kind.
So what's next for you, man?
You got anything cool?
You're working on.
Like, what do you got?
What do you got the deal?
Man, honestly, the big thing is just spending more time with my family.
I got a little one-year-old girl right now.
And, like, I'm at a point.
in my life,
my career in which,
like,
I just,
I just want to spend more time with them.
So,
um,
keeping things pretty status quo with the business and,
and honestly trying to do the minimum effective dose with that right now.
There,
I go through different phases.
Sometimes I'll go hard.
Like I just did,
you know,
the 30 days of spike my blood sugar every day.
And that was a lot of work and a lot of effort.
Now I'm in a phase of the least amount of work I can possibly do while still like,
being okay,
like financially and just spending as much time as I can with my wife and daughter.
I love it, dude.
I love it, man.
You know, I think that's, again, going back to balance, like, what I've realized is I don't think there's just, like, you don't ever arrive at a point where everything is balanced, like, and the scales are just exactly balanced in everything forever.
For me, balance is, okay, maybe I'll have a few months here where I'll be, like, really focused on family.
And that's the number one.
And then I'll have a few months where it's like, you know what, work is going to take a little bit more priority.
And I might have to miss a little bit with family, but it's a little back and forth.
So for right now, probably for the remainder of the year, just really, really, really, like, family focused, being at home.
And then once January hits, maybe, like, turn the dial up a little bit on business.
So I love that because I want people to really dive into that.
Guys, you don't have to be hyper focused on one thing all year long.
Right.
Like, I go through seasons as well.
And that, and that includes your, you know, you want to be able to move consistently.
But you might be more focused on your nutrition or your body one quarter than you are the next quarter.
Maybe there's a lot of travel for work.
Maybe there's a lot of family events.
Like what you guys need to understand is where you're at.
It's perfectly just fine.
Just acknowledge it.
Do whatever you can.
Keep somewhat of a good mindset about it.
And just live your freaking life, man.
Because all these individuals telling you the way you need to live it
and how you need to live it or you're not successful,
they're all full of shit.
Yeah.
Especially these like these like 22 year old influencers who like they live alone.
They don't have a partner.
They don't have kids.
And they're like, all right, well, here's my, like, morning routine.
I'm like, you're sipping like your chai fucking latte.
It's like good, like get the fuck out of here with your morning routine.
My morning routine.
Did you see what Alex Hermosey said about morning routines?
No, no.
What do you say?
I love him, by the way.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
I would love to meet that guy.
Yeah.
Hopefully he's the same energy.
But so Alex, if you want to link up, let's do it.
He's not listening.
But he said something.
about morning routines.
Like, you know, people don't get rich by doing their morning meditation, you know, doing
their breath work, you know, doing their walk on the treadmill, connecting with their
wife.
They got rich and then they started talking about these weird fucking routines.
Right.
I mean, I'm paraphrasing.
But it was really cool to read because, you know, a lot of people get out there and they'll,
you know, hey, this is how you're going to make.
seven figures in 90 days or less by doing this morning routine.
Link in the bio.
It's like, wow, people fucking believe this shit.
Yeah, people actually believe it.
Wow.
Like $7 million in 90 days?
Fuck, yeah.
All I got to do is do some breath work and jump in a cold plunge.
Fucking let's do it.
I'm in.
Yeah.
And they don't even do those morning routines.
And they're just looking for content ideas.
They're like, well, what can I say is a good morning routine like to get people to like to like to like those videos?
It's all horseshit.
It's so funny, dude, like, it's so funny that our conversation has been on social media mostly.
You know, it's like, but it's just, it's what needed to be, right?
It's obviously that's what needs to be out there so people can really digest the information and know that most people are full of shit is like everybody's looking for that silver bullet.
And the one thing that drives me crazy is these morning routines.
People are searching.
And dude, if you go into these Instagram communities, this is that drives me crazy.
It's always like find viral ideas of what is all.
going viral.
Just why?
Like, if your goal is to go viral on social media, you're never going to be happy.
Correct.
Because if you might have one or two that go well, like, I don't have anything that just
grows legs and goes.
And so what, man?
I feel like I'm building a good, you know, platform.
You know, I have some engagement, which I know is like at a premium now.
Like, you know, you get people that engage and love your shit.
treat them like family you know like welcome them in but never go into it with thinking you have to rip off somebody else's morning routine or this content idea to become social media famous you're going to fucking struggle man and i've and everything i'm saying is from experience with knowing people who've done this like so again i've been doing this for a long time i've i never went viral it was a slow steady grind for a long period of time um i have a couple of colleagues who did
go viral very early on.
And because they weren't prepared for it, they weren't prepared for the influx of people,
of opinions, of messages, of inquiries, they initially had a very brief period of, this is
awesome.
I'm killing it.
It's amazing.
And they had an even faster and more rapid decline.
And to where now it's, it's, they're worse off now than they were before.
The goal of going viral with the idea of that will lead to fast success is a complete misnomer.
It's not how it works.
There's a reason why anyone with a true level of high level of success over many, many years will tell you it's a constant grind over many, many, many, many years because virality doesn't lead to business success.
Virality might lead to more views in the short term.
but it's I think it's one of the greatest curses you can have
because then you're going to expect that's how everything is going to go
and there's this level of as you grow your audience
you get a negative message here you get a negative message here
you have a failure here you start to get you build up calluses to it
if I all of a sudden out of nowhere went from very little
to getting everyone's opinions about everything I would have lost my
fucking mind because I didn't I wouldn't have built up the callus
and built up like the understanding of this is how people respond.
This is how people react.
I'm so blessed that it took me over a decade of posting to grow because slowly and surely
I was able to get used to and understand the patterns and the trends and how people respond.
It was funny you say that because, you know, I haven't, I'm about what, maybe two and a half,
I'm, I think three years in, right?
And a lot of your, your story talking about the constant grind just reminds me so much
of what I'm doing, right?
Just really putting out the content, gaining some steam.
Yeah, maybe.
I have this one dude that pops in every now and again just to, I agree with you about 60%,
but you know, I'm like, do you just fucking come in here to like, I'm like, oh, so you, so I mean,
the majority is you agree with me. That's cool, man. Thank you. Like, I don't need you to agree with me,
but, you know, let's let's talk about it intelligibly. Share with me your idea. Yeah.
Is where I'm at. But like, you're right. If it comes too quick, like, I wouldn't know how to
handle it. And in the bottom line is, is I still don't know if I would be able to handle all the
influx, right? I am growing on a consistent basis. Like, you know, a year, like three years ago,
I had 900 followers. Mm-hmm. You know, I have 50,000, 54,000 people in my community now.
Like, to me, that's great growth, right? I'm grateful. Amazing. It's insane. Like, I love it.
If you have 50,000, if you have 1,000 people who buy everything you do, you're good for life.
Right. I also think that's a process.
Right. I'm still not there yet. Right? And I'm open to say that. Like there's too many people out there that are not, you know, willing to say that they just want to go, well, you know, I'm making, you know, $10,000 a month. Guess what? No, you're not. You know, you didn't launch this funnel and all of a sudden you're making $10 grand a month. You're a liar. Fuck off. Don't, don't even talk to me. Correct. You've already lost me. I had somebody reach out to me today for podcast. What is it? Podcast. Podcast.
advertisement or podcast, you know, engagement or whatever, you know, it's like the modern day,
like, you know, buy likes and buy followers.
They want you to do that for podcasts now.
Right.
Just give me your RSS video.
I go, and I started fucking with it.
I'm like, okay, cool, man.
How much?
He goes, well, for a week, it's 100.
For two weeks, it's 200.
But I'll do it for the month for a thousand.
What?
I'm like, what the fuck are you even talking about?
You just, wait a second.
So for, so for the first two weeks,
it's $200.
For the next two weeks, it's another $800.
Right.
Cool math, bro.
Like, what is going on?
But yeah, dude, my point is like, you know,
you get those types of people come at you.
I don't get a ton of hate just yet.
I know I will.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I know I will.
Like, and that's okay.
But, you know, I look at your feed, you know,
because obviously we're connected on there.
And there's not a whole lot of bad shit that people say.
at all, you know?
And for the most part, I get a lot of support.
Again, there's, there's some people that'll pop in every now and again that I knew from
before I was doing this just a time.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, I know, you know, you should do this or, hey, I don't, you need to go a little
lower on that squat.
I'm like, bitch, I got a blown out of kill this.
The fuck do you know about what's going on in my life right now.
I've seen three years.
Dicks.
Real quick, for the plane, dude, you, uh,
Now you're a suburb guy.
Dude, you're looking at the sobs now.
Big suburb guy.
I could see you with a stroller, the fucking coffee that's got like a black belt on it.
Like, I didn't see you.
I didn't see you, motherfucker.
What do you love most about the suburbs?
So the big thing.
So I lived in cities for the last like 14 years.
And they were great, especially either when I was single or it was just my wife and I, it was awesome.
But now that we have our daughter and we, you know, God willing, we want more kids.
it's one of the things about living in a high-rise that sucks is you can't just get out of the
building and just go on a great walk right away, especially in like necessarily a safe area
or at least an area that you'd really feel comfortable with your wife and daughter walking
around in.
Right.
And, you know, we were like up more than 40 floors in our last building and the elevators
were always taken forever.
And it's like if you wanted to go on a walk, it was a big fucking thing.
And grocery shopping.
Grocery shopping.
Everything.
It's a whole mess.
So now, every day, usually like two to four times a day, we just open the front door and go out in the yard and play or go on a walk.
It's just, it's the best.
And it's funny because I was talking to my friend.
And she lives, she's lived in the cul-de-sac for a long time.
And as my wife and I were telling her that we're just excited to open the front door and be outside, she was like, I've completely taken that for granted.
The idea of, oh, I want to go outside, I open my door and I'm outside.
It's whereas if you're living in a big building, whether or,
it's a high-rise or even like four or five, six, four, it can take a minute and it's not as
simple. So the best part for me is we go outside. It's great weather here in Texas. We just go out,
we play. We just run around in the grass, roll around on my daughter. That's my favorite thing.
And we do that every day multiple times a day. Do I take it when you, when you said that,
when you said an open door and go outside, I'm like, oh my God, I'm such an asshole. I don't even,
like, I don't even think about that. Like, there's a pool in my backyard that we have.
Like there's a beautiful like neighbor here.
I can just go on this walk.
It's gated.
Like yeah.
I don't even think about that, right?
Because it's just I haven't lived in a high rise for maybe five years.
Yeah.
So initially it's like, oh my God, when I went grocery shopping for this time when our house is done being built, I'm like, oh my God.
I don't need this big.
Yes.
Cart thing.
And I don't need to go up the elevator.
Exactly.
I'm back down.
So.
But yeah, like, it's amazing.
Or like having a grill.
Like, do you grill outside?
Do my grill went out?
out on me, bro.
Oh, that sucks.
I'm so mad.
I'm so mad.
It went out on me.
My wife bought it for me two years ago for Father's Day.
And so, like, now I'm like, that's like another overt.
That's another, like, weird mindset thing with me.
Yeah.
I do not like meat that I cannot grill.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, what am I going to put it in this pan?
It's going to taste like shit.
Fucking baked chicken.
What I fucking look like to you?
Savage?
Dude, grilling meats is the best.
It's the best.
And just be able to go outside, have a beer, hang out with the family.
Like, to be able to do that is just, it's amazing.
Oh, oh, you drink alcohol?
Like, you're terrible.
Like, you know, you know, you don't, you're not a part of that whole,
I'm just going to quit alcohol crew, like for, fuck it forever.
That's a real, it's, that's a huge thing right now.
It's, everyone's talking about it.
And listen.
For those that are.
Doing it because they want to, like, I'm totally in.
Cool, man.
Cool.
Don't trend it.
Motherfucker.
Don't trend it.
The thing is, like, I'm not an 80.
Obviously, alcohol isn't good for you.
It's very obvious.
But there are many things that are not good for you that all of the, that many of these people
are doing as well.
And for me, it's like, listen, I would, I'm totally fine having a couple beers or a glass
of wine with my wife.
I love that.
And I can also still live a very healthy, happy life.
I know some people who are like, yeah, I'm not going to drink alcohol, but they're
also doing cocaine.
I'm like, really?
And you're going on talking about how you're like three years sober, but like you're also doing Coke.
What are you talking about?
It's not sober?
That's even worse.
I drink a class of fucking Merlot.
God dang, man.
Oh, I'm great.
I haven't touched alcohol.
I haven't touched alcohol in a few years.
But I know you're doing coke.
Crutching up meth like a motherfucker.
Yeah, they're slam in Adderall so they can work more and not sleep.
It's like, what is wrong with you?
Like, Dionne Breaking Bad did it.
he was a teacher so I'm gonna fucking do it.
It's fine.
His life was fine.
That show is arguably the greatest show of all time.
I'm watching it again.
Like I'm,
yeah,
no,
like I'm on season two.
Like I'm watching it again.
It's so good.
That show is one of the most unique shows because
it's very difficult for a show to continually get better every single season all the
way to the end.
That shows,
I think literally the only show that I've really watched that to the very last episode,
it got better and better.
better and better and better and better.
That show is just absolutely extraordinary in every way.
I love it, dude.
I forgot, though, how slow the first, like, season was.
It's super.
Yeah, the first two seasons are really difficult.
I was like, what the fuck?
Second season's a little bit better.
But, like, but no, it's funny because I'm going through it again.
Like, I love it.
What's your favorite show besides that?
Well, so, I mean, there's a bunch, but I would say Game of Thrones is another really,
really good one but that had a really sharp drop off at the end where like the last season or two
didn't even i've never watched one second of that dragon shit it's a great show is it really yeah it's
super good it's really good show um let's see so there there's breaking bed um yeah i mean i'm a huge
office guy i love the office dude i knew we were i knew we were made to be friends that's like
my favorite show that and friends oh yeah friends is good signfeld is really good but the office
is the one where that's my, I think my personal favorite one.
Like if I'm in a bad mood or anything, like I just put that on because it's season one
or six, any of season one through six, like once seven and eight come, then it sort of sucks
as soon as as my job leaves.
Yeah, exactly.
But I think the office, if I had to pick one show that I could only watch forever, it would
be that.
That's, no, it's a great show.
It's a great show.
Listen, dude, we're going to land the plane here.
Before we go, tell the audience a little bit about your inner circle, how they can be involved.
what they can find there and how you can support them.
Yeah, so what I'll say is this.
The Inner Circle is it's my monthly membership for fitness, but don't buy it just yet.
If you like my content, feel free to join after that, but don't like, just from this,
I'm not going to give you a sales pitch.
If you like it, great, but that's where I have people do like my workouts, nutrition,
all of that.
But for whatever it's worth, you are listening to the best host.
You've got Sean here.
He's amazing.
I respect him immensely.
He's a great friend of mine now.
And I think that you've got everything you need you need here with Sean.
He's an amazing guy.
And I would encourage you to continue listening to him because he's doing a really wonderful job.
My fucking guy, dude.
I appreciate you.
What are we going to get together?
Man.
But like, we need to figure this thing out.
Like, okay, so here's, so I'll say this on air.
Before we hopped on, I started creating my two minute outline.
So I hear, right?
Two minute outline to send in with.
application for TED Talks.
Oh, nice.
So maybe I'll look for one in Texas.
Dude, do it.
Do you want in Dallas?
Dallas, done.
Well, my best friend lives in Dallas, too.
Man.
Dude, so like, I agree we are.
Oh, that could be a fun time.
Come to Dallas, we'll get some barbecue.
We'll hang out.
It'd be great.
That's what I'm talking about some ribs, dude.
Yes, your ribs are the best.
I, listen, I could talk about this for a while.
I don't have anything against brisket.
I don't have anything against the other stuff.
But it's like, if you're going to barbecue,
Ribs are always that that's always number one.
Do you like spicy barbecue sauce?
I love spicy barbecue sauce.
Burn my fucking mouth off.
Yeah, 100%.
If you're not, if my nose isn't running, I don't want your barbecue.
Like the whole, you're just like, yeah.
Yeah, it's like your friend that doesn't drink with this Coke.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ribs, spite, like whether it's like beef ribs, pork ribs, whatever, but also spicy wings, hot wings,
they're so good.
I love it, dude.
And I like him grilled.
I'm not a big smoke.
I don't like the smoker.
Like I know it's a trend.
But like dude that like to me like a wing, a smoked wing has weird after take.
Like it has a weird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm probably getting it canceled for that.
But whatever.
Oh well.
Well, look here, man.
I appreciate you, dude.
And I'm so happy that we got this done and we didn't say anything off color that we can't
publish.
Yeah.
Nothing super offensive.
Thank you for having you, brother.
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