The Dick Show - Episode 20 – Dick on Cernovich

Episode Date: October 18, 2016

Download the MP3 The law, the Bone Zone, my inner monologue, Gorilla Mindset, real magic words, Cuck-mate, sucker-punching, red pills, blue pills, and black pills, the war on men, Carlos Slim, what is a defamation, Sean gets asked his name, Dustin attends a Trump rally, author and free-speech activist Mike Cernovich weighs in on the … Continue reading "Episode 20 – Dick on Cernovich" The post Episode 20 – Dick on Cernovich appeared first on The Dick Show.

Hey Presenting Hey Dick Dick Dick Dick Ready?

Yeah Yeah Welcome Yeah Welcome to Dick You got Dick in your ear, you want Dick, you need Yeah, welcome to Dick. You got Dick in your ear, you want Dick, you need Dick, you love Dick. You got it. It's the podcast where everything is a contest.

It's the show, I'm your host, Dick Masterson. With me, as always, is Sean, the audio engineer. That was a good one. Thank you. What's up, buddy? How you doing? I'm good, man. Today, a very, a very special potential co-host and a guest who's joining us to talk about all the fuckery

that's been happening to me recently to talk about his books. He is an activist, he's a free speech activist, he's an advocate for men, for free speech. You are a, you are, you've been a one man pack in this election cycle. You've put yourself on the line to bring, to not only to challenge media hypocrisy and corruption, but to also bring out the other side of the story in every possible way. You've been a mover and a shaker in this election cycle. We're honored to have you on the show, Mike Surnovich.

Thank you, it's my pleasure. Somebody actually said, Mike prepared to lose all respectability by going on that show and I go respectability. Have you not been paying attention? Did they really? Did they say that to you? Somebody tweeted that. One of your followers actually.

So I think it was joking around. Yeah, it's definitely joking around. But you are an author. We were talking about before the show started. You've seen like an overnight sensation that I see you involved in every part of this election cycle. And it's a very complicated one because it seems like before, now more than ever before, every single facet of our lives are being challenged and are under attack specifically in this election cycle. And I see you on every front in the, but you know, if this was like, if this was world

war, if this was a war, I see Mike Cernovich defending every fucking front of the battle. Like when I see media hypocrisy over here, I see men being challenged. You and I, we share a very horrible thing that we've both been blackballed in a sense from expressing our broadcasting and in your case, broadcasting and your case is a political pendant. And in my case, as a comedian, we've both been blackballed and tarred and feathered as a quote, rape apologist, which I really want to talk to you about because your story, your background, when you, a couple of guys from the show reached out to you, I gotta, I gotta drop there, man, Don Chaco, Anthony,

and Amanda Ola, the Dixiel Underground, which is like my SEAL team six, the DIC Army, and the DIC head army reached out to you. They got you on board. I've read more into your background, because at first I thought you're just this guy on Twitter, raising hell and raising awareness for how fucked the media is, but when I looked into your background, man, you've been through some really horrific

stuff. Well, he can be both. You can be both. You've been through some really horrific stuff, but I definitely want to get your take on that. But yeah, we've both been blackballed as the worst of the worst in thought crimes. And that is rape apology, right? Which is the most evil act that a man can commit and the worst thing that you can be accused of

with absolutely no evidence. The problem is you're too good looking though, so when they call people who look like us, rape apologists, it actually is a brand builder because people say, well, that guy would, why would he rape anybody? He must be an idiot. So it is backfire catastrophically because you have these creepy little beta males, he's

a rape apologist, you know, he hates women, you know. And then they like, Google me and they're like, well, he's a pretty fucking good looking dude. I highly doubt that he's actually outraping women. So it adds to the anti-hero mythos. So you got to think of your life as a story arc. We are anti-heroes. We are flawed human beings, but we're doing the right thing.

So when people try to attack us, the blows don't land the way it does on most people. Because when people say, oh, you're a flawed person, and here's where you did this, and here's what you said, my answer is, yeah, I've never pretended to be a televangelist or I'm not pretending to be Joel Olsfein. I'm a flawed person, but I'm doing the right thing. So all of those attacks you're gonna find in your own life.

The blows don't land because you're not, you don't look creepy enough to be a date rapist. So it doesn't work. Yeah. It's the that inner creep alarm. Like everybody, I think that words mean absolutely nothing. And everybody has this gut feeling when they see, when they see someone, when they interact with them a little bit, like, you know, you size somebody up.

Everybody does this. You size somebody up in a couple seconds. You see, are they, are they shifty? Are there eyes glancing? And it's, you know, it's important. It's important to pay attention to those instincts. When you see these accusations being flung around, everybody's gut instinct tells them that it's not true yet, the narrative. The median narrative is for everyone to push down

that gut instinct, that protective instinct, and go with only the cerebral mind, which is this convoluted logical matrix of well he said this, and well, like you have to give the benefit of this labyrinth that you have to go through in order to assign guilt to somebody. And that's the part that concerns me because we've both been, I mean, I feel like we're jumping in straight to the deep end here. So I want to save it a little bit and just go with what makes me rage this week. All right. Doctors without borders. Okay. Do you know what doctors without borders is, first of all? I do.

Organization of doctors that goes around the world helping the absolutely poor. People have absolutely nothing, right? The dirt poor. Are they struggling just like water? They go to like South America and fix like the kids like cleft palettes and that kind of stuff. Among other things, yeah. This last week, they turned down a million free pneumonia vaccines from Pfizer with the reason being that Pfizer should just lower the prices.

Yeah. So they're willing to just gamble with people's lives. Oh, there's no gambling. They're going to die. They're going to get pneumonia. You've got, you've got 1.4 million kids a year. It's the leading cost of death, leading cost of death among kids, the PrevNar 13 vaccine. When it was implemented in the U.S., death went down 88%.

Right? What countries is this? This is doctors without borders. They just rejected the company, the went down 88%. Right? What countries is this? This is doctors without borders. They just rejected the company, the NGO rejected it outright. Well, they could kill mosquitoes with DHT and they won't do that. So there's a long, these people are so cocked. There's a long history of this stuff. Who's that, the doctors without borders?

Yeah. And the global activists, they say, oh, mosquitoes are killing people with malaria. Okay, well, why don't we just dump these? I think DHT is what it's called. Isn't the greatest thing for the environment, but hey, if you got fucking malaria or DHT, then you just drop the DHT. They won't do it. That was the EPA shutting that down.

Right. I don't want to say like late 70s, some people do that. Yeah, so they're all fucked up. So, you know, when should become black pills, you realize that these people, they're evil. They're just doing it for social status. Explain what black pill is to everybody listening. Is that not everyone is living, I don't know about you, but I live on poll,

I live for channel, and you, by the way, you were putting together an offer to buy poll. Right, is that right? Yeah, so I think now that the guy wasn't serious because we pulled together like a real deal investment. It wasn't, people have this perception, oh this guy's trolling Twitter, but if they really knew what was going on behind the scenes

and the people I knew, they wouldn't even believe it. So I don't even talk about it. But we had with Chuck Johnson, then I've got news.com and Chuck Johnson was banned from Twitter. Chuck said, I have millions of dollars, and we'll just go buy pull. He was gonna run it, I put the deal together, and nothing.

So we think that that was just the money grab now, and that it wasn't a sincere problem. They just wanted money to continue controlling it without getting there. Yeah, exactly, because we were gonna buy it, and just Chuck was gonna run it, and I think pull has to exist. Why?

Because you need, well, selfishly, I need fucking maniacs out there to give me cover, because I'm like, well, you think I'm bad. You should say, but have you seen poll? Wow, those are the real bad guys. Why don't you go look at them? But more broadly,

they've taken things and populated in the public consciousness in ways that nobody else had ever had. They've woken people up to all kinds of issues people weren't aware of. They have made it so that, I mean, here's a genius thing is, they've made it so that we have no respect for journalists, more so than anybody.

Pull and here's why. Ever, you, you're on Twitter. I live on Twitter. People are like, Mike, I'm gonna fucking rape your dog in front of you and cut its head off. Yeah, and I'm like, that's what the internet is, fuck you, Faggot, you know, whatever. Like, I don't care. But these journalists now are like, oh my God, I'm calling the FBI.

This is a real serious problem. As though the FBI had nothing better to do, it drives me crazy that people are conflating offensive speech, just people running their mouths on Twitter with actual threats of violence and tying up legal resources. This is with journalism. It seems like they bend over backwards to take things literally. When everybody knows it wasn't literal. Yeah, but we poll now and the chaners and the Twitter chantrolls have exposed these people as thin skinned little cry babies and they've made people respect journalists

even less than I thought possible. So that's great. You also need, you know, I read one of these people, who was it? One of these weirdo, I follow these weirdo accounts like Campbot and nationalism rises. The real deep, they talk about vaping trend. You know, they're so deep in the Chan culture.

And they post to the story like there's like a wolf. And you can't have wolves around dogs, but there's this wolf refuge. So if you have a wolf hybrid dog, they take you to this refuge and they all live and they're happy together. That's kind of like Channers. They're not bad people, but they're just a little bit wild.

There's a little bit, I don't wanna say off, but they're a little different. You need to give people like that, I don't wanna say off, but they're a little different. You need to give people like that. I think there's a good reason to be off in this world. I mean, it really is, you were at a point where if I turn on the TV and I start seeing quotes being taken out of context on purpose, it drives me insane.

Like, it really drives me insane and I don't think that anyone represents me when I look at mass media. I feel in a lot of ways like it's just being shoved down my throat and I think it kind of makes us a little off. Well, how old are you? I'm 36. Okay, so you're, I used to be like fucking angry, angry as fuck before gorilla mindset, but you if you if you actually just embraced what is happening you would be fucking

either demoralized depressed or a hate filled machine you watch what is We're all of these. Yeah, you would be you would have a hard time functioning where for example that if you tweet one little thing wrong Ken bone for example. Yeah, Ken bone little thing wrong, Ken Bone, for example. Ken Bone is a great example. The media comes after me, I'm like, you know what? Can I explain who Ken Bone is? Yeah, for everybody listening, they did the second debate. That's the one that the town hall style where they get a bunch of quote, unquote, undecided

voters and the voters hop up and they ask a question like they asked. They ask the neutral question of what are you going to do about Islamophobia. Ken Bone is this funny looking portly gentleman in a goofy red sweater with a funny little mustache. He gets up and says, what's your energy policy? Because I work in the energy sector and I'm worried that one of your policies is going to run me out of a job. And he's he becomes a media hero.

Like he's because he's so cute, he's so adorable. He's got that funny mustache that he does the rounds on talk shows where everyone's gushing over him because of his amoeability, because he's so likable, he's got that little mustache. All the sudden, you were gonna say, what happens to him? All of a sudden, we found out Ken Bone is actually a human being.

He has looked at internet pornography and talked about it on Reddit. So they take this guy who's just, like I said, if I can get why people don't like you, you're an aggressive guy, I can get why people don't like me. I view us as like fair game. Fuck it, we're in the arena. Yeah, I can take it, it's fine. Yeah, you stay true.

The Patreon grows, you keep coming at me. More people support it. But that's, I mean, Ken Bone, those like a fucking nice guy, just some Cornball, all American flyover state guy has no idea of how to handle the media. We know how to troll the media. So they decide, well, this guy,

he posted three years ago that he thought the Travon Martin shooting was legally justified, but- Which the court agreed with. But he actually said he thought George Zimmerman was a piece of shit. Yeah, basically Ken Bone said, well, it was legally justified, but... Which the court agreed with. But he actually said he thought George Zimmerman was a piece of shit. Yeah. So basically Ken Bohn said, well, it was legally justified,

but George Zimmerman is a piece of shit. Yeah. But this fucking outrage culture, all they do is they go, Trayvon Martin, he supported the shooting. Well, first of all, it was a good shoot. Trayvon Martin is a fucking piece of shit. I'm not upset at all that he's dead, but that's not what Ken Bohn said.

But the media wants to be like, yeah, look at Ken Bohn now, he has the wrong opinion. And the next thing, his pornography is in the New York Times. The New York Times. The New York Times. The New York Times. The New York Times.

The New York Times. The New York Times. The New York Times. The New York Times. The New York Times. The New York Times. The New York Times. The New York Times.

The New York Times. The New York Times. The New. It's like, yeah, he's a regular guy. And he's not, he's complimenting them, right? God's sake. Like, there's another Ken Bone comment that they didn't bring up where he goes and to comfort a woman who's been sexually assaulted. And he said, look, if your boyfriend makes you feel used or because she said she was dealing with, this woman was sexually assaulted and read it. She said, she, her boyfriend made her feel used.

And he was treating her like shit because of it. Ken Bone jumps in and says, the guy's a scumbag, there's nothing wrong with you. Like don't ever let any man make you feel like that. But all they post is he said, Trayvon Martin was justified and in their smug, holier than Dow tone, there's like, well, he's just kind of a piece of shit.

Well, it's so funny how they put him on a pedestal and then knocked him off within a week. Yeah. Well, and that goes to deeper philosophical values where we live in an age of where beauty cannot be celebrated. Everything now is, I mean, if you want to be famous now, don't be a woman who does anything good. If you want to be a woman in your famous,

oh yeah, might turn into a stick, Massison, Donald Trump, grab my ass one time, I was at a club, I'm the victim, I have PTSD. They don't celebrate strength or virtue or goodness or genuineness. They celebrate the most vile we've completely, neat, neat you talked about, is the inversion of values.

Everything now that is debased is disgusting. Well, that is now celebrated. And people like Ken Boni are like, yeah, he's a good guy, good all American guy. Immediately, the postmodernist say, we have to take that guy out. We can't have any wholesomeness or genuine good people out there.

Yeah, I want to, you brought up the groping thing and I want to get your thoughts on that because I think most of us, I think most of us saw it coming a mile away when Anderson Cooper asked Trump, so you're saying you never did these things. You're saying you never grope any women and Trump said absolutely not. Then it was the signal. It was the signal of the Fox Hunt, right?

Let's start getting these women out. Now, I'll give you my opinion on it. I heard Trump talking. I didn't like the way he was talking about women, not because guys don't do that, because a lot of guys do, but because he was doing it with Billy Bush, like, why do you want to impress Billy fucking push this much? That guy seems like a fucking tool to me, always, but Trump's in there bragging, like, and my, like, that's my gut is that he's trying

to kiss Billy Bush's ass. Well, Trump like a big shot. Trump wants to be liked. Oh yeah, that's his fucking fuck. That's why I want him to win actually, because if Trump wants to be liked, most of America will like Trump if he builds the wall, if he restores American culture,

puts America first. That's why people say, oh, you must worship Trump. And I'm like, eh, you don't see, you know, you don't see me trying to meet the guy. I'm not trying to be his friend, but because Trump likes to be like. I am, oh man, I want him to adopt. You know, because he wants people to like him,

the people can actually say, hey, we need these things done that the elite are ignoring, but that is an example of that. Bill is a fucking push. It's a common, because he wants to be like, but he can't stop running his mouth. I mean, that's what you want. Someone who has a PR team working for them and wants to be like, they can do it. A guy who can't stop running his mouth and wants to be like, that's a pretty good combination. Well, and you know, you're as data testing.

You know, you're saying things, people push back and then you realize, okay, people don't really like that. Which in a democracy is sort of what you want to do. Like a lot of things that I've said, it isn't that I agree with it, I'm just, what do people think? But of course that is always gonna get lost in translation of the outrage mob.

Nobody ever says, hey, you said this, what did you really mean? They just go, oh wow, look at these five words out of five million. They want to parse, it's that gotcha mentality that even that it's, I think it started at the top and it's now worked its way down into even social situations where people are just waiting the pounds on three or four words to twist them up into this shitty gotcha game where they feel good because it's like, you know, I love busting balls. I love being around guys and my friends and busting balls and making fun of each other.

It's like they took the spirit of that and turned it into this sick word-minsing game. Well, it's literalism. It's been like kind of feminized. Have you ever been in a relationship with a woman where she'd be like, oh, how is your night? And you realize she's not really asking you how your night was. She wants you to relay a story. And then she'd be like, oh, you have three drinks. Oh, and a girl talked to you. Oh, they're just waiting to like checkmate you. Yeah. Well, that is the way

a lot of fucking so-called mended-a are behaving. Yeah. You can't have an honest conversation with people because what, oh, really? Is that smug East Coast attitude, that media attitude, and is destroying friendships in real life, but the good news is, fuck it. I just blow all those people out. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about the groping. I wanted to get back to that. Cause it turns out, you know, Anderson Cooper

sounded the warning shot and then out, out they come. So the first woman who comes out says that Trump was like an octopus in first class, right? Groping her, she's laughing about it. Does it happen 30 years ago? She's chuckling at it and she's chuckling about it. She says he lifted the arm rest up, which I guess they've shown that there's, I mean, they have seen her rest. Yeah, they didn't, he haven't backed backed in. And here's what I tell people.

I don't want to interrupt you. No, go ahead, go ahead. Just, here's what I tell people. Whenever, this is like a lawyer skill. Whenever somebody tells you the true, or tells you a story, including your clients, you never trust your clients. So you imagine, okay, if this is true, what is also true?

Okay, Trump lifted the armrest up. Okay, there aren't any armrests. So he's fucking groping you. Where the stewardess is? Where are the other people? Nobody sees some guy like fucking Oingabonga grabbing your titties while you're screaming out. Where the fuck is everybody? Also, if you even try to imagine it in your head, the logic of it doesn't add up. And a famous billionaire like I, I mean, we live in L.A. how many fake stories do we hear of celebrity sightings? People are tripping over themselves and say, oh, guess what I saw.

Like, you don't think, first of all, a whole cabinet. Secondly, she says, in the interview, if he would have stayed above the waist, I would have been okay with it. But once he went below the waist, I'm out and I'm like, wait a minute. This isn't assault. this is called courtship. Like every single fucking man in the world since your 13 has gotten the, whoa stop, I'm not ready to go that far yet. Like that is how we're supposed to interact. And what worries me about it is that there is this war on sexuality that is trying to train

people out of these normal back and forth interactions. Whereas if you're a man, you are the aggressor. That's the way it's, you are just naturally pushing. You're naturally pushing to see how far you can go because that's the way it fucking works, even in her literal account of what happened, it's perfectly fucking normal, even if you believe everything she said.

Yeah, the problem is if women want to just be like, you know what? We're going to go up and grab your cocks. We're going to hit on you while you're at the bar. Hey, man, I'll fucking take that deal. But what is happening now is your human sexuality has become so confusing now. You can't say women are generally wanna be chased. Men are the aggressors. Men have to push a little too far

because that's how you find boundaries and then women have, you can't say that anymore. Wait, Mike has just said, you gotta push women too far. Wow, rape, wow, can you believe it? I can't even. But that's the fucking reality. If you're not being sexually aggressive, you're not gonna get laid

and then the women are pissed off because now they're not getting fucked, right? So women are miserable, one in four women are on fucking anti-depressants and anti-psychotic drugs and they're saying, where the real men? Where the, yeah, it's 100% true, you can fact check it. One in four, you won't believe it. That's who's on medication.

So imagine how many people think they need it. So you can't, women are miserable now because they're saying, I'm with this fucking guy, he's a cock, he won't make a move, he won't be aggressive. But the guys who are too aggressive now, fuck me, and that could be a date rape case. Which you are familiar with. Yeah, I mean, I went through one, it was funny.

I actually, there's a big article in a big, famous magazine gonna run, and they were like, oh yeah, you're like accused of date rape. And I'm like, yeah, they're like, what happened? And I go, I don't big article in a big famous magazine gonna run, they were like, oh yeah, you were like accused of date, right? But I'm like, yeah, they're like, what happened? And I go, I don't know, I forgot really, because in life, you know, not to go too much for aggression, but in life, your past is the future, only if you treat the past as real.

So a mistake a lot of people make is they think, well, this happened, therefore, I'm gonna follow this like Newtonian physics line of thinking, so therefore this is what's happening. Whereas I just treat the fact that the past is if it never occurred. Well, you can't do anything about it. Yeah, just maybe learn from it. Well, it's like quantum mechanics or something.

You know, you just change the past and you change the future. But anyway, yeah. So I got an example of what you're talking about. Okay. If I think I understand it, there was a guy after the Trump stuff happened and everybody tripped all over themselves to say how much they disagree with these horrible statements. One of these guys who was an editor for a film review blog was, was, yeah, he was virtue signaling, what is his name?

Like Devon Farici. Yeah, he said that and a woman tweeted that and saying, hey, do you remember when you did that to me and you were going around a party going, say, hey, everyone smell my finger? He said, I don't remember, but I have to assume you're right and beg forgiveness and then he resigned from his post. I call that cockmate.

I love when that happens because he was cocked by the own little virtual signaling rules, which is you must listen and believe women. If a woman says you fucking finger-banger 11 years ago and you don't even know who the fuck she is, well, you gotta listen and believe to her. So he was cock-made it by the life of a man. I loved it.

Yeah, so he's taking someone else's description and he's making it his history. Which is the opposite of what you're saying. And that controlled now his future, right? Whereas now he's done. Yeah. So he's, which is good because I went after him a year, a year and a half ago.

I went to scalp him. I didn't, wasn't able to fully take him out, but he got taken out by his own people, which is good. Yeah, so my date rate thing was way back in 2001, we went, she called me up, we had been dating, we had made out before, bring alcohol to my place, went to bring alcohol to place. And the whole time, she's in the room with her best friend.

They're showing me their titties, they had a contest, who has the best tips. Everything is a contest. I think I'm thinking threesome. Yeah, right. So if I ever wrote this story up, I would be, I thought I was gonna have a thresome. How old were you at the time? 22. Oh, yeah. That's a good age. And I'm some small pound

heck from the Midwest, you know, like I'm not like a big city guy. And so if I ever wrote up, I'd be like, I thought I was going to have a three-some and I ended up in fucking handcuffs, you know. So I'm thinking, wow, we're going to have a three-some. This is going to be great. Yeah. Well, one of the friends ended up passing out of the living room floor, and then I went to pass on the living room floor. And then I wake up and the other girls like straddling the small in my back, like Robin are pushing in my back,

so I kinda do that guy thing where you lean your back up and you're grinding up and we roll over and we fuck. We're not a story for Mike's turn of it. Yeah, it's a pit house letter, yeah. It's like, it's quick into the point of it. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was,

it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it out, we fucked, it wasn't like, it was just a dumb drunk fuck. It was a dumb drunk 22 year old fuck. When you're, you know, when you're our age now, you wouldn't just like have a dumb drunk fuck, you know,

you're like, get up, flip over. Oh, there's a big mirror in the room. I'm gonna watch you in the mirror. You know, I would say, I'm kind of queasy. Like, is there any way I can get out of this without letting her down? And then I realized that there isn't. So I'll play along for a little bit.

And then I realize that I'm really getting into this. But I'm also trying to keep my stomach under control. Oh, okay, okay. So when I drink, I just have ever lasting stamina. So I would, I would, when you're 22, you're just a horn ball. You don't know when you're just a dumb guy, right? Yeah. You get a little bit older and you know how to like make it so that they remember it so now you have her in the rotation.

You know, but back then I was just an idiot. Like we fucked and I'm like, okay, I got laid first time in like three months isn't that great, you know? And it sounds fine. Yeah, but it's boring now because now, you know, when she really learn how to have sex, you know, you really, that isn't no fun. You have a beautiful 22 year old girl.

It's wasted. It's wasted on the young. It's like the entire college experience is wasted on 20 year old guys. Yeah, like, you don't have any conception of like, you have this beautiful body in front of you. Nothing to do all day. You need to get coconut oil out.

You need to really fucking have a good time with it. Yeah, don't even leave the house get off a coconut oil. But back then you're just some dumb horn. You got like, oh, let's do it. You pump a few times and you're like, okay, I got laid. Yeah, I'm going to tell my friends or whatever. And yeah, what a waste of that. In college, college is really wasted on, um,

it's on wasted on the young. Yeah, Oliver Stone actually once said his only regret in life is that he didn't have sex with more girls in college. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, man, you will never in your life be around more, Alvarez don't actually once said his only regret in life is that he didn't have sex with more girls in college. Yeah. And I'm like, oh man, you will never in your life be around more, even if you live in LA, you will never in your life be around more beautiful women.

No, I said that on the show a couple episodes ago. Yeah, that's what it's for. Yeah. If you're not going there, you're going there to take a four year IQ test because companies cannot legally give them. So while you're taking that four year IQ test to prove that you can file paperwork in a cubicle, get laid as much as fucking possible.

So what happened after you're aborted to threesome? Okay, so I get the one girl that she kicks me as I get up and get out and I'm like, okay, and I'm like, well, shit, that probably isn't good, you know, so I leave. And then I go to call the girl thinking, what the fuck, that was weird. I call, I go straight to voicemail and I'm like, all right, that's fucking, that's weird. I'm getting a weird vibe.

So I go to work and then we work together in the same shift and I'm like, hey, how you doing and she just kind of blew me off. So I'm like, fuck. This is, so then I knew that like, what did you think at that point? I just knew. Maybe she had a boyfriend or something like that. I figured she cheated on her boyfriend. I found out her dad was actually a pastor. So she cheated on God. So she's a good girl

and you're not supposed to drink. You're not supposed to do drugs. You're not supposed to have premarital sex. I had no idea what the fuck I was walking into. And I'm like, oh man, the vibe is like off. So, but I was like, all right, you know, whatever. And then like two or three days later, I'm at work. And three dudes come in and the hostess goes, oh yeah, these three guys requested you for a table. Do you know them, are you friends with them? I'm like, no, I don't know.

So three guys sit down and they just look fucking angry. I'm like, wow, I wonder what's wrong with these guys. So I come up to the usual, hey, welcome to the fucking Olive Garden. How are you? I'm Mike, I'll be taking care of you today. How are you today, right? Water, they go water.

So I'm like, God, why are these guys so mad? Maybe there's your gym guys or whatever. So I walk in with my tray and three glasses of water. I'm just walk up like, hey, the one guy jumps at my legs, like does a double lake take down on me? The glass is a water. Oh my, they arrest you on your shift while you're serving. No, no, no, that turns out that was the brother.

I was gonna say those ain't cups. No, those aren't cups. Yes, so a guy does a double lake take down on my lake. It does 11 olive garden. In the middle of an olive garden, the glass is a water fly in the air, there's glass everywhere. And then he hits me a couple of times and I get up

and he takes off running through the back, skates out. And at that point, I'm just, I had no idea who the guy was. Yeah. So then the police are called but to be like, yeah, you were just a soft, the olive garden, who are they? And I'm like, I don't know.

Then I started to feel like I was in Kafka's trial because then people were like at the restaurant, they were like, clearly you must have done something. Who are those guys? I'm like, I don't know. And the police are saying, who are those guys? And I go, I don't know. They go, well, people don't just show up to a restaurant and do a double lake take down

on you at work. And I'm like, apparently they do. Yeah, I was like, fucking a Kafka novel. I was like, I'm telling everyone that because I legitimately had no idea who the guy was, didn't know anything, right? And then one of the people goes, oh yeah, that was the girl's brother.

And I was like, at that point, I wasn't even thinking she was gonna accuse me of rape. All I knew was like, all right, well, you need to tell this fucking guy that to take, so what I told him, they go, oh yeah, that was her brother and he's a real tough guy and everything else. And I go, okay, well, you need to tell this fucking guy that to take, so what I told him, they go, oh yeah, that was her brother and he's a real tough guy and everything else. And I go, okay, well, look at me.

And I go, look at me, look at me, physically, look at me. And I go, he, you're a big guy. He took me out, a double leg takedown, hit me as hard as he could, sucker punched me. Look at me right now. Tell this motherfucker show up. I wanna see this motherfucker tonight. Sure.

Cause I'm still thinking I'm just gonna beat this guy's ass. I don't know what's going on. And then the police come, the detective comes to interview me and I'm like, sure, I'll take a polygraph. We'll take a polygraph. So I hire a lawyer. I'm like, what is the polygraph for that you don't know these guys? What is there?

No, no, because then the sexual assault detective comes in. No, there's so many layers. So while her brother is beating you up, she's going to the cops and beating me. Well, it didn't beat me up, it's soccer punches. It's like while they're very important. Very important. You're being too soccer punches at once. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you're being too soccer punches at once. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and I'm like sure dude, I'll take a polygraph, you know, anytime any place, because in my mind at the time, I was still blue pill. Well, blue pill means,

blue pill means you don't understand reality for what it really is. You live in this fake artificial reality where the legal system is just, where if you tell the truth, you cooperate with the cops, things like that. Yeah, and if you tell the truth, everything will work itself out just be honest

and just tell the truth, right? So I'm like, well, sure, the girl, I fucked the girl in the same room that her best friend was in, her best friend had looked at us, turned over, and so how the fuck you gonna say I raped a girl with their best friend in the same room? So in my mind, I'm like, sure,

let's do a fucking polygraph. Sure. So I have. I might say, would that be a good idea doing a good idea? Never talk to police, higher lawyer, don't talk to the police, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, they are completely dishonest. So that was the summer before I'm going to law school.

So I'm just some kid in Illinois, I'm gonna go to law school in Pepperdine and, my lawyer is like calling him saying, hey, we'll do the polygraph. And then I went to my lawyer and I kind of chewed my lawyer. I'm like calling him saying, you know, hey, we'll do the polygraph. And then I went to my lawyer and I kind of chewed my lawyer. I'm like, look dude, I'm supposed to be in California for law school. I don't believe that you're calling this detective. And he goes, call them up right now, the guy didn't answer. So what happened is I learned

this two years later, it was a bullshit case in the detective knew it. So he was hoping it would blow over. But the girl's dad was a priest, a minister, whatever. See, I had a little bit of political clout, so they went over everybody's head. So then two years later, right, before my 30-year law school, that's when they finally indicted me for rape. They sent federal US marshals.

Jesus Christ. They sent federal marshals to arrest me at my job. And this is in your hold on. In your years later, in your in your opinion, what is, I mean, what is the, what is the public danger of you being out there? Like what is the motivation for this? Because it's so this act of crying assault is we, we all, I think we can all say we're all against actual legitimate sexual assault. Right. In fact, I think the idea that there exists a large contention of men who don't feel that

way is absurd. Joe Rogan calls that like, dumb morality. You know, he was making fun of sort of PC Myers and these SJWs and atheists and plus. And Joe Rogan goes, everything they say is like, duh, rape is bad. Duh. And the guys who do it will say that. I mean, the people who are doing it don't think it's good.

They do it because there's something wrong with that. Yeah, even real rapists aren't like, well, I raped her because I'm part of this rape culture and I think that she was asking for it. No, they're fucking sociopaths. They're bad people. So this narrative that there's some contingent of men who are apologists for it is insane to me

that it exists, that people allow themselves to think like this. But I mean, in this case, what is the motivation for this person to just destroy your life? Yeah, a lot of women, you know, as you know, have mental health problems. So here's what I finally found out happened when I got the case file.

So what had happened is when we were fucking, she had a tampon in, which I didn't notice. Classic 22 year old mistake, didn't notice. And so the next day she was worried about getting toxic shock syndrome. So she had to go to the doctor to go to her doctor. She had to get her mom's insurance. To get her mom's insurance, she had to say,

hey mom, last night, you know, dear Jesus, I got fucking wasted. Fuck some dude, I got a tampon in me, I need to go to the doctor. You think of a better excuse than that? You know what I'm saying? She would have worked with you if she would have just asked you for a better lie. Because young men are when it comes to sex lies, oh my God, we could come up with them all day. Yeah, so she was worried about toxic shock syndrome, had to go to her mom, had to get her

insurance, had to go to the doctor. So then, because a 21 year old girl is it just going to own her mistake, she's not going to be like, well, first of all, it's not a mistake. It's not a mistake. That's the thing, that's the thing that if why it would piss me off is I was like, we fucked, it ain't a big deal, bro. You know, why the fuck do you have to lie to your parents when you're 21 years old about having,

but it's that religion, brainwashing and everything? So rather than just say, hey, mom, I'm taking responsibility for what I did, no, no, no, hey, this guy like totally took advantage of me, I was drunk, and that was that. Hey, this guy like totally took advantage of me. I was drunk. And that was that. So that's how it got fucking indicted. So then this is how fucked up. This is when we came black pill. This is why I tell people though, I if I witnessed a murder, I would not give a statement to the police. Well, that's because they might frame us. Last words.

They might frame me because here's what they did. So two years later, the detective comes back around again, and I'm like, well, sure, I had a brief conversation with them, and I said, look, look, I'll come back to Illinois and turn myself in if you wanna charge me with a crime. No problem, I've been out here for two years. I hire a lawyer. My lawyer say, oh yeah, we're representing Mike Surnovitch

and he'll turn himself in if you're gonna fall charges. Great, so what happens? I'm at work. I hear ring phone rings. I pick up the person hangs up. It's my office phone and right away because I'm already spooked anyway. I'm like, all right, something's gonna go down today.

Some shit's gonna go down. Hour later, I get a call ring, pick up. It's the woman at the front, that's when she goes, hi, Michael, I'm like, yeah, they go, yeah, there's somebody downstairs here to meet you. When I was like, well, who is it? She goes, well, I don't know who it is. And I go, oh shit.

If it were a delivery, they would be like, well, it's a FedEx guy or whatever. I'm like, okay, shit is about to get fucking real. So I pick up my phone and I call my fiance at the time and I'm like, hey, I think I'm about to get arrested. So I'm walking down the phone with the old T-Mobile flip-flops. The little flip-flop. Yeah, I walk down.

There's a guy who kind of looks like me now. So in other words, looks like a fucking fed. And I look and he's like, Mike Cernrich and I'm like, yep, he's like, okay, you're under arrest. I go in and I'm like, okay, sure, no big deal so he takes the phone, you're not gonna eat that. He handcuffs me. I go outside, both office doors.

It's like I'm America's most fucking wanted. Local police, servants, feds. I got arrested by a federal marshal serving me on a fugitive warrant. They issued a fucking felony fugitive warrant on me from Illinois after I'd called the fucking guy two days ago. And said, I'll come in.

Yeah, and I had, I was in a fugitive, I was just like living my life. So they issued a felony fugitive warrant on me, set federal agents to arrest me at my job. So you can imagine that didn't go over well. To the credit of the law firm, they set, because if you're ever fired from a job, you have to disclose that on the state bar application. They go, we will not fire you. You have a choice if you wanna come in. Do you wanna come work still

or do you wanna just call an end? I was like, why thank you? That is very nice. To their credit, they didn't throw me under the bus. So I was never fired. They just said, well, if you wanna not come in, we'll respect that you're under a lot of stress. So I was like, okay, so not even in California,

fell of me fucking fugitive warrant. Spend the night in jail. Use your free phone call. It doesn't work that way. I damn it. No, it doesn't, it doesn't work that way. Like a media lying to us again. It's another media lie there.

Yeah. Wait, no, I did get one after about an hour. No, no, you're right, I did. But you call the like, call my parents because they could call everybody else. But my fiance at the time who, you know, then I ended up divorcing for other reasons later on. You know, they got me bailed out,

and then I got bailed out of California that I had to go back to Illinois. And then I had to fight the California charge. So they, in California, they dismissed the, the fugitive case against me because I was never fugitive. And then I'm in Illinois wrangling with that legal case because I'm like, look, I'm not going to take a fucking deal. You know, I'm not going to be registered.

It wasn't even about principle really. It wasn't like, because by then I was so black-pilled that there's no understanding that the cops, that no one actually came out. Yeah, so the whole idea, the whole idea that I was like, well, you know what? I would never plead guilty to a crime I didn't commit because that would be, no, you're in, like a guy put it to me, is if you're in the legal system, the criminal system, you are in a cage with a bear. But there is no principle. It just get the fuck out of the cage. Maybe you get clawed, maybe they take an arm off or something. a cage with a bear. But there is no principle. It just get the fuck out of the cage. Maybe you get clawed, maybe they take an arm off

or something. Well, it's a system. Some people are going to jail. Innocent rights, the statistics might be one of them. Right, so I didn't want to get jammed up. And at the time it was my dream be a lawyer, not to be this provocateur. So everybody who hates me, hey, fuck you,

I would have been one of America's great lawyers and you never would have heard about me doing this shit. Except for this shit. Except for this shit. So fuck you, you made Frank, you think I'm a monster, you motherfuckers made the Cernivitcher's monster. So I fought the case for years, blah, blah, blah. I got morbidly obese because I was depressed.

You know, because your whole world view, but when you come blackpilled, your whole world view is gone. Yeah. And then when it's gone, you're either angry or depressed, and I was depressed, and then I was angry. And then you channeled it into anger. Yeah, I channeled it into anger,

and then I realized like, there was a moment where, okay, so they finally had offered, they had offered me a deal after like two years, right? And they were like, okay, you gotta, you gotta come in, you gotta do a plea bargain. And I was like, all right, fine, whatever. I just wanted over, I worry about the state bar stuff later. I go in to make a deal.

And I had to write this like a fucking bullshit apology letter. I wrote the letter and the girl decided that she didn't like the letter. So then the deal, which when you have a plea deal, a plea deal is a contract. The plea deal. Well, Mike, you have to have hearts over the eyes. Yeah, I should have been a little,

nowadays I know how to write a little bit more compassionately. I would have just layered it on. I would have said, you know, I'm a bad pro. My lawyer gave me good advice, which I didn't follow, is like, Mike, just be a fucking actor. But when you're young man, you're headstrong.

You're about pride and, you know, I'm gonna, well that's what trips you up with women too. Yeah. As a young man, like you want to put, you want to put how you really feel out there. And as you get older, you're like, you don't got anything in you dude. Just be whatever you need to be all the time.

Exactly. Doesn't fucking matter, there is no you. Yeah, so we went from Kafka to pure like existential absurdity. So at the time, I felt a little bit guilty actually because I was still a blue pill. I thought, well, maybe I pushed it, because I was brainwashed.

I was a fucking brainwashed idiot thinking, well, maybe there was something that I did wrong, you know what? See, so we grew, I mean, you're a little bit older than me. We grew up around the same time. I think you're talking about internalizing the guilt. When I see what's being pitched to kids today, I got two nephews, three and one, or the four and one. They're very young.

I see what gets said about their both white males. I see how men get treated on, in media and on television and how they're always pushing this diversity. I can just feel the fucking guilt thing sinking into their fucking bodies. Oh, it is effective. It is effective. It works. I was case study. I was at that point. Again, I'm like, well, I must have done something wrong. You know, maybe she felt that way fine, you know, whatever. Because all these people are authorities. Why would they be saying this if I didn't do something wrong?

That's the way we think. Like, that's why we have a civilization is because we've evolved to think like this. Right. So once they canceled the deal and I was like, tell my lawyer, I was like, well, they can't cancel the deal. And he goes, well, we went in actually to the judges' chambers and judges' goes, if I make this deal happen now, the media is gonna go crazy on me. So that was it.

So then that's when I hated the media. But then I remember it was one of the best moments of my life. It was like my moment of freedom. So picture, I was still kind of fat at the time. I was still blue-pilled. I was gonna take their shitty fucking deal. I was gonna be contried or whatever.

I was felt guilty. I walked deal. I was gonna, you know, be contried or whatever. I was, you know, felt guilty. I walked out and I literally just like went to call my, I think she was my wife at the time and I was just laughing. And she's like, what's wrong? And it was a moment where I had been freed from this absurdity and I realized, no, these people are the fucking bad guys. I'm not the fucking bad guy here.

This is an absurd situation. And I just like started laughing. And then at that point, my life was just uphill from there. Because I realized that fuck the media, fuck the feminists, fuck the police. That's why people call me, they think I'm a bootleg. Fuck the police. Because they fucking...

Why would they think you're a bootlicker? Because you support... Because I know... Because I'm not in order. Yeah, because I post black lives matter. Because I think black lives matter is a hate group, but there's plenty of room in between black lives matter is a hate group and you're a bootlicker.

I'm in the middle, black lives matter is a hate group. However, black people do get fucking framed. My white ass got framed. So there are legitimate issues in the middle to talk about. So yeah, I'm not some kind of, well, yeah, you know. I'm so, you know. I'm so isn't to go like one thing I love. I think I might have seen it from you is that Black Lives Matters activists, some of them have murdered people. Right. No one on the alt-right has ever murdered someone for like over a Pepe meme.

Yeah, yeah. That's another issue of what it should on on TV. The alt-right guys. I do, I really want to talk to you about the media because I, and your story. So we'll consider the rape story over. I think, did you have more to say? I don't know. Close enough for government work. Long story short, is this over. I got my record expunged.

I don't have a criminal record now. I ultimately did become a lawyer, even though I never, by that point, I was gonna do this kind of career track anyway. But for those of you listening, those of you listening, yeah, I was suicidal, totally. Yeah. I was angry, depressed.

I felt like my whole world had been taken from me, but those of you listening, I might be preaching the choir. We are up against evil, dark fucking forces. So don't feel depressed and don't kill yourself. Know who the enemy is and they are brainwashing you. But yeah, I got through it and now my life is a fucking dream life. That evil is what I wanted to talk to you about because you've you've you've seen driven and all your tweets and your initiatives. Like I say, you're a one man super pack. I mean, you're you're making your own

propaganda. You're making your own commercials about Hillary's corruption. Like I, you're, you're making your own propaganda. You're making your own commercials about Hillary's corruption. Like, I see you're proud of him. You posted a bunch of, I mean, you've been, I think you've been, you've been retweeted by Trump too with this. Donald Trump, junior general general Flynn actually said follow Cernivitch and gorilla minds. That's a great book. But you and you aggressively go after media. Oh, yeah. it's not fake. It is, they ruined my life. They didn't ruin my life. They took, I was a true believer, liberal fucking cock. I was a cook.

I was a liberal cook. I want to fight for civil rights and I'm a feminist and of course rape culture exists and it's bad. I was a little fucking cook and you know what I learned is you can follow all their little rules and they're still gonna fucking destroy your life because they are, they're hateful. They, they are the KKK, they are the real fucking KKK. They hate, hate men.

What they did to me, what they did to my poor ex-wife at the time, which even though our marriage ended for unrelated reasons, you know, she stood by me to her credit. She was depressed more than I was, you know, because she thinks I'm a loser, my man, and everything else. These people, they destroy lives. And it is it for me, that's why I wake, this isn't fake.

I wake, if I could do, I gotta be careful how I wear this as a lawyer. I, if, if I could, I'm not gonna say it, but these are, We're all very pissed off. They're lucky I'm only on Twitter. They're lucky, they're lucky that all say it, but these are very pissed off. They're lucky. I'm only on Twitter. They're lucky.

They're lucky that all they have to deal with are my mean tweets. All right. So we can talk about the war on men and we can talk about the media. I'd rather talk about the media just because your one man war on the media is so effective. I see you when the Trump tapes came out. I saw you tweeting at somebody related to the sonor related to the Romney Ryan campaign. You're constantly chirping and busting their balls about, did you guys leak this tape? Is this a GOP sabotage?

Which looking at, now here's what's great about it. So you were tweeting at these reporters, did you guys release this tape? Did you and your wife release this tape? And the wife chimes in with, yes, we're still having fun after all these years, which is a confession. Stoking God. Stoking God. Now, she takes it back saying she was just making a joke.

I make a lot of jokes on Twitter, so I'm willing to give her that. But in her retraction, she says, I take it back, I was joking, but I really, really wish we did. And that to me is so much, that confession that you got out of them is so much more valuable and powerful than who actually did the leaking because it means they're poisoned forever.

It's not that they did, it's not a momentary lapse of judgment that they're showing it is a habitual, it is a modus operandi that they're showing. This is who we are. We will do that. We will, they could tape. You give us one tiny thing to use to fuck you and we will do it. That, I mean, let's take the, let's take the New York Times, something I got following one of your links,

which is the New York Times zone by Carlos Slim, right? Like everybody, so people call you a conspiracy theorist. They call you a conspiracy theorist, they call you crazy. They call you everything under the sun to try to discredit you, which whenever I see somebody getting called like 10 different things, my reaction is like, oh, so you guys don't know what you don't like about him. There's probably something that's probably you then. It's probably that he's exposing something in you. The reason you don't like him. So you posted this thing. Here's one of these conspiracy theories, right? That Carlos Slim, the Mexican

billionaire who owns the New York Times or who owns a major portion of it has an incentive to manipulate the election for his favor, right? Because obviously Trump is very anti-immigration. And you posted this link to this, this breakdown of it, which says, I'll try to sum it up as briefly as I can because I mean, I don't know the financials it might be not in. I might not be interested in everybody, but this guy has, he's got $50 billion to his name and he's made all of it with a telecom monopoly in Mexico. Phone calls back home is easy way to put it. Every time in a legal immigrant calls somebody in Mexico, cha cha cha ching for Carlos Slam.

So Carlos Slim owns this $50 billion empire based out of Mexico. As the more people leave Mexico, they come to the US and when they call back, he's allowed them to use the money they make in America to pay for these calls. Antigas cut off all the money that is like Western Union to Mexico, financial transfers. So this guy's making killing 50. He's got a 50 billion, six richest man in the world, 50 billion dollars. That's five times when the Trumpets more than Bill Gates, billions of dollars are dependent on this business model because Mexico is cracking down on him. Because he got a monopoly in Mexico and they're cracking down on, they're saying, you have

to let in competition, you have to share your phone lines. And they did it here too. he we all know that it works once the government comes for your monopoly they will get it because they're the government they got the guns they're taking so Carlos slim sees this writing on the walls he sees how dependent his businesses on this income coming in from america the the line item for him buying the new york times and using it as a propaganda machine is like a hundred million dollars. If you're him, if you're a call of some,

it would be stupid not to do that. Yes, like a hundred bucks to me. It's a round here. It's not here. It's a rounding here. And this is, I think when people call you a conspiracy theorist, this is what they're talking about, but even me summing up what's going on

and amending it a half is too much for people to take. Like even that little amount can be written off so easily as a conspiracy. And here's the other thing I got out of your link. This was, and this was the most interesting part to me because of monopolies, because of collusion, monopolies collusions between the Mexican government and people like Carlos Slim who have monopolies over their infrastructure, it has set Mexico back every year, one percent of their GDP, one percent of the wealth of the country is stifled by these monopolies. Because Carlos Slim, because of the monopoly, small businesses in Mexico pay way more for

their phone service than small businesses in America, let's say. And this is true for every single industry they have in Mexico. The monopoly is causing, is stifling competition and stifling business. If you go back and work that 1% loss of the wealth of Mexico into, like, if you go back a hundred years and you assume that this corruption and this monopoly is costing them as a nation and as a people, one percent of their wealth and their GDP. If you did that to America, both Mexico and America would be in the same spot.

Yeah, America would be Mexico. America and Mexico would be just as poor. There would be, and where's the fucking, like, the media wants to blame Russia, the media should be like, Carlos Slim, fuck this guy. He's made Mexico poor. If it weren't for him, Mexico would be rich like America. Why don't they write those stories? Well, gee, I wonder fucking why?

Cause he fucking bought the New York Times. Cause he bought the New York Times. And none of these motherfuckers want to admit it. So yeah, they go, you know, whenever people call me conspiracy theorist, I kind of laugh because I don't, I have real deep sources and, you know, NSA and shit like that that I don't ever talk about. Well, that's true.

Dude, I got a whole network of fucking spooks. You wouldn't believe me. I mean, I've seen, like, I'm on pole for a channel the time and I see you saying shit, like you claimed that you had, or you, or someone that you knew had access to all 33,000. And then the wiki leaps came out. Kailer emails. Well, and people go, that's impossible.

That's impossible, yeah. Okay, there was an email from Williams and Connolly in the wiki leaks where they said we haven't turned over the thumb drive. I saw that. So we know the thumb drive exists. Well, other people have it, not within my control, I can't release the router, I've already released it. But you you're saying you have you know people in the NSA and these huge government organizations that are real spooky dark people but

The broader point is well, I'll tell you how in a minute but back to the conspiracy. I don't even go There I just say look Carlos Slim actually owns 17% of New York times here is a transaction record in 2013 when he purchased the New York Times. Here's a transaction record. In 2013, when he purchased the New York Times, they quit criticizing him. Moreover, they don't criticize him for robbing the Mexican people of their birthright to be as wealthy as America is. We don't even have to go into the deep dark fucking spooky shit. Well, that's this is all a record. Yeah. No, no, that's conspiracy. It's just following the money trade back. Right. But have you ever heard of this before, Sean? What the, I mean, have you ever heard of that,

of what I just said, all that stuff about Carlos Slim and the GDP of Mexico and how much his monopolies have, like, like, the incentive he has. Oh, no, I knew he had him in hot place. I didn't know what it's effect on the GDP. Right, everybody should fucking know. Everybody should know that. Yeah, this should be common knowledge

that Carlos Slim is a fucking predator. But now they're saying, well, business. Well, we can't do that, you know, but, oh yeah, Putin and Russia hacked the WikiLeaks, so let's not talk about the WikiLeaks. But in terms of how I get all these sources, right now there's a power struggle at the highest levels of government

that we're seeing in America is everywhere, okay? James Comey, FBI director, corrupt. Do you think everybody in the FBI is corrupt though? No, there's a lot of guys like us. So why do you say James Comey is corrupt? Well, because he knew that Obama was emailing Hillary from the private email server. They always knew about the email server.

The, that fucking idiot, Hillary's IT guy went on Reddit. Stone tier. Stone tier. Asked for advice on how to delete emails after a subpoena had been issued. Right. Well, I'm a fucking lawyer. I can tell you the implications of that. That is a felony obstruction of justice.

You would be in handcuffs. If I got a subpoena like that and then you deleted it and you were caught on Reddit with a smoking gun, prosecutors would, they would have like orgasms. They would be salivating., they would be salivating. The FBI would be salivating because you got them, you got them, why isn't this guy in handcuffs? Why isn't he? Corruption, black pill motherfuckers, that's why.

But there are good guys in the government, and a lot of the good guys will feed me information because they want to take out the bad guys and they do want Trump to win. So I've become kind of a conduit for all of these shadow options. It's interesting that you mentioned that you're a lawyer because everybody knows I like showing off and quoting Tokvill on this podcast because one of his comments in democracy in America is that lawyers and preschools of America, it's a protected class of people because

they have an inordinate amount of power. I mean, you know magic. Law is magic. Magic is if you say certain words, then there are real world implications. That's all magic is. If I say right now, if I say right now,

I'm not even gonna say it because you're taking out a context, but there are certain words that I could say that would summon law enforcement to me. There are certain words that I could say that would summon law enforcement to me. There are certain things that I can say that will keep them away. There are ways that I word things that prevent people from suing me for defamation,

for arresting me, for framing me, for crime. As a lawyer, I know that there's a target on my back and I know that how they would frame me for a crime. So I'm very careful. I've actually been told by sources within secret service is that you don't even get a speeding ticket because if you get arrested, you are going to disappear through the system.

So I, and I know that that is true. That isn't voodoo. I know how they can make people disappear. You arrest a guy, you send him to the wrong cell block. You know, the wrong guy. Well, this is, no, this has been true. This has been true since the dawn of man, I'm sure, but in the 70s, I knew a guy who was arrested for security in exchange commission.

But they called it fraud. There's a helicopter right now following you. He was arrested for non-disclosure in some big telecom stock deal. But it was trumped up charges because he's dealing with billions of dollars. So of course, everybody knew the risks, but they put him in, they arrested him, put him in jail, and they gave him the diesel treatment they called it, which was they shipped him by train from one federal penitentiary to another so that he was not able to coordinate his legal defense with his lawyers on it because this is in the

70s. There's no cell phones. Though network he was trying to build existing would have protected him from this, but this is just, this seems to be their game throughout history. Right. And that is why I posted the only thing that kept me alive is that now if they take me out, people are like, well, Mike said it was going to happen. So in a way, I changed my own destiny by, again, magic words.

I knew how to phrase things. I knew how to word things. And if you think of words as magic, words are magic. You can conjure up emotions in people. You can make a person feel a certain way by what you say. Well, law is just dogma and magic to like the next level is, your words do have legal impact and do have legal consequences and you conjure things.

So it is magic. It is a priest. That's an interesting way to look at it too. I really wanna talk about your books too. Thank you so much for coming in, by the way. I wanna give you as much time to plug your books as possible. Gorilla Minds said.

Sure, I brought you a copy. Oh, can you give us your take on it? Sure, man. It is just the book on emotional control. So people, you're looking at me, we're talking, do I strike you as an angry man? Many strike me as a man who's very intense. I mean, but going back through your story,

that's why I wanted to hear more about that date rape accusation is because it makes a lot of sense. Like, you're looking at someone who's, anyone who's becoming a lawyer has invested a significant amount of their life in pursuing the law and a tremendous amount of money, an ungodly amount of money because the bar has a monopoly on the legal system. You've invested so much of your life to see it pull Rob taken from you. Uh, I wouldn't, I don't know about completely, but if you were any, if you were any other kind of man, I would say taken completely away from you.

Yeah, I would have broken me completely, but now I mean, you said you were on the edge. You were, you put out a weight, you were suicidal. Oh, yeah. And that's what, that's what they do. They did, they do that to so many people. They did it. Who is the guy? Who is the guy who invented RSS who killed himself? Aaron Schwartz. Aaron Schwartz. He was run through the legal system.

He was run through the legal system. In the same way, Julian Assange, as soon as he drops, as soon as WikiLeaks drops all their documents, boom, rape charge, Adam. It's like, it's the magic fucking word. Dominique Shross Khan, he was a French nationalist and he was going over him. Oh, he allegedly raped a fucking cleaning lady. Who the fuck is gonna rape a cleaning lady at hotel? Does it matter? He was the time.

He was gonna take over France and take it away from the globalist and take it away from Soros people. So, hey, rape. That's the way they take you out. You know, it's like Soros people. So, hey, rape, that's the way they take you out. You know, it's like, it's, they've taken away, they've built up to this, to this point where they can cry, rape a pile. I mean, you, you, just real quick for every listening, you've been blackballed from

red eye because you were on, you did a great job, you did a, you did a great job, which for conservatives, they struggle to find people who can come on and do a great fucking job. Right. It's true. They found some tweet you made maybe a year, maybe two years. 2011. 2011 asking a question about the nature of date rape.

They found it boom black ball. Yeah, I said, here's what I said, because as a lawyer, true I go, there is no such thing as date rape. You can't rape without using force. Try it. And they go, oh my God, he is telling people to try to rape. And what did you, I mean, I got listeners on both sides of the fence here.

What did you mean by that? Well, I don't want that hanging. I don't want to. Legally, because half of people are not going to understand what you're saying. Legally penetration is force. Right. You have to actually, if your penis goes into the vagina,

that's force because you're actually penetration. But what I meant back then in 2011 when I was goofing off with friends is that I had actually with the girl, she had a rape fantasy, so I quote unquote, did the rape thing, and I was like, Jesus fucking Christ, like how the world, it's really hard to rape somebody. Let's just put it that way. If your girlfriend is 105 pounds and she puts, you know, how the world, it's really hard to rape somebody. Let's just put it that way.

If your girlfriend is 105 pounds and she puts up a struggle, you're just not gonna rape her. You actually have to hold her down. It does, so I was talking to guys about rape fantasies. I had nothing to do with, well what if you put, you can drug a girl and give her ketamine.

Yeah, of course you can, you fucking idiot. That is what I'm talking about, though. Yeah, but nobody asks you what you meant by it. Nobody just assumes that you're a good guy asking questions. They just immediately assume that you're some kind of cartoonish figure, like this cartoonish straw man who's promoting these sick values to make themselves

look better. I don't know what the fuck they're trying to build. Well, that's why the black guy. If you gotta say key words, Mike, like you said, you say the magic word. And all of a sudden, it evokes those emotions in people and shit gets heightened really quickly. Yeah, so that's why I just embraced the black pill and I've just decided to live the anti-hero character arc.

So what does Gorilla mindset and what is Maga make American great? Gorilla mindset is just about how you can have more control over your emotions. Emotional control begins with what? Thought, self-talk. Here's an example. When we... Stop drinking. That's the first way to have a mind. Well, yeah. Well, that is a thing. But before you drink, before you drink, there's a thought process that goes in, right? Yeah. And then what if you say you're going to stop drinking, you drink, oh, fuck it. I fucking ruined it this time. Fucking idiot.

You know, idiot, right? But self talk. So grill a mindset is chapter by chapter. It goes, here's your self talk. And the way I always put it is, talk to yourself the way you would talk to a friend. We all fuck up. We all make mistakes. Well, if you turn that mistake into drama in your own head,

then you're gonna feel like shit. If you say, I'm gonna quit drinking, and you drank last night, and you wake up, well, that's not a rhetorical question. What is something that you wanna do in your life that you wanna improve in your life? That I wanna improve in my life? Oh, boy.

I would like to get a babe to read the news on this show. I'd like to improve our video situation a little bit. Okay, why haven't you improved your video situation? I've been juggling a lot of stuff, and that is I think more important, getting you on the show, for example, coming up with more content, I think is more important in the video.

Now, when you fall short of doing things that you wanna do, what goes on in your head internally? What's your internal monologue like? If you feel bad, what do you say to that? What do you actually say? Write it out. What do you say? I say, you could have done a better job of doing that this week, maybe a little less

house reruns. Is that really what you say, though? Is that the exact language you use? No, it's more brutal and visceral. It's like, fuck, you fuck, fuck, get your fucking act together. Stop fucking around, get your giddic fucking going. It's like Sergeant Hartman, a drill sergeant. You mother fucker, you think this was, it was important now,

because it's a deadline. It's important now, because the fucking shows tomorrow. But you had all fucking week to do this. You could have been doing anything, but you were dicking around. You were walking around pretending to be the drug dealer at the end of Boogie Night's Pop and Poppers all weekend and so fucking rob. When you could have been working on the fucking show

but you didn't, you fucked up. Get your act together for next week when Mike's coming on. Don't fucking embarrass yourself in front of this guy. You wanna fuck her. Your face went red, you know, you're, so the idea is that that's your self talk. That's how you're talking yourself in your unconscious mind all the time.

Yeah. Is that going to fucking inspire anybody? No, it's not conducive to what. If you talk to him like that, he'd be like, well, fuck this. I'm out of here, right? Yeah. So why do you talk to yourself like that? So you part one self talk, just you didn't even want to be honest with how you talk to yourself.

Well, I didn't even think about it. Yeah. Exactly. You weren't even conscious of it. Yeah. And then you realized, well, wait, because I was the same way, I would always be like, you fucking idiot, you fuck this up again, God damn it. Why are you always fucking up, you fucking dumb ass, right? Being aware of it is the first step.

Well, then I realized like, if you talked to your friends like that, you wouldn't have any friends. But why don't you just talk to yourself like a friend? So as a friend, you would say to you, you know, Sean, you would say, you know, Sean, we have these 10 things we wanted to get done. We got three of them done. Why didn't we get the seven say to Sean, you would say, you know, Sean, we have these 10 things we wanted to get done. We got three of them done. Why didn't we get the seven?

And then Sean's gonna say, well, the reason we didn't get the seven is because we were fucking smoking bowls and watching house. And then you're like, well, maybe we shouldn't do that. He's like, yes. You can tell he's a father. Already. Well, everybody in LA is.

But the idea is, have this conversation with yourself and then you just set up actionable steps, okay, I'm gonna be careful if I talk to myself. So when I fuck up, which invariably happens in life, I don't say, oh my God, you fucked up big time this time. I'm just like, yeah, you know, you made a mistake and here's how we're gonna avoid that mistake in the future. But remember that every time you make a mistake,

you're becoming more resilient, you're becoming more resourceful, you're learning how to avoid mistakes in the future, because dressing yourself down for things you didn't do is living in the past. Focusing on what you can change is now become a forward thinker, becoming a visionary thinker.

So then instead of thinking, oh, like earlier I said, why I don't even think about the past, like that date rape shit I forgot about, until we talked about, because I don't focus on that, because if I think about the past. Like that date rape shit I forgot about until we talked about, because I don't focus on that. Because if I focus on the past, then I'm remembering, oh my God, remember how afraid you were

and how scared you were and you were shook. I gotta tell you, it gives a lot of weight to everything you do and say, I've been a fan of your, my life coach, who was killing himself that he can't be here today. He almost canceled this whole night, this trippy hands with his wife. He almost canceled the whole thing just to be here and talk to you today. He sends me your

tweets all the fucking time. We're always tweeting back and forth about you and Trump and you know this and that. He, it adds a dimension to everything you say that I will take forward now reading it, knowing what you went through, like just knowing what you went through about it. So in the girl of mine, set we focus on another thing we focus on is visualization, right? Everybody thinks visual is it. So self-talk is where it all begins, because that's the dialogue. You analyze it, and then we have exercises in gorilla mindset. What I tell people to do is just like when you started going off, that's powerful.

You should clip that. You clip that. That is in your unconscious mind. What kind of damage are you doing to your unconscious mind? Telling yourself you're a fucking loser all day. It's interesting. And then you're like, well, God, why don't I have any energy to do anything?

Well, because I'm a little kid being like, you little fucking piece of shit, you fucking idiot. And you're like, God, why my kid, you know, strike out a basement? I gotta just start the voice. Yeah, it's kicking your own ass. So people do that all the time and we analyze that and then another part is we talk about like visualization.

Visualization is, you just put tits on everything. You know? That's what I do. I'm imagining you with big old tits right now. It's calming me down, Sean. It's freaking me out. It's a big old tits.

Yeah. So you what's your vision for your life? Most people don't think about a life vision. Like I's a big old tit. Yeah. So you watch your vision for your life. Most people don't think about a life vision, like I have a big life vision. And every day when you have a life vision, then you're focusing on the future, the forward, and then you go into the immediate moments. In my mind, I'm gonna create a massive media empire.

That's my mind, right? So then every day I'm like, all right, what have you done today to bring you closer to your vision? Well, here's what I did. I'm on your show. I'm streaming a live on Periscope. And when you, when you, when you started to set you back, when you think visionary, no, no, this is possible.

When you think visionary, then suddenly your mindset changes and you see more opportunities. People go, Mike, how did you come up with all this media stuff? And I go, fuck, man, I don't even know. But if you think of yourself as I want to do this and I wanna live this life vision, then opportunities immediately come closer to you. You also have more energy because energy is tied to your vision.

If you wake up and think your life is hopeless and nothing good is gonna happen tomorrow. Yeah. You won't do anything. You're not gonna be fucking energy. Sure. But if you're me, you wake up like a fucking lunatic everyday because you're, this is before I got big.

You got a lot of energy. Even when I was nobody, when I was a fucking nobody, I had a vision. So I didn't focus on, well right now, you have a hundred people read your stuff. That isn't how I thought. I think you're building towards a fucking media empire and hey man, you don't build a media empire in one day,

especially without putting in a bunch of money and the advertising, keep doing it every day, every day, every day, because I'm working towards something. And most people today, they're not working towards anything. They're just trying to get by. So grill a mindset rather than just say, believe in yourself, love yourself, which is all that fucking bullshit self-help,

a hate that says, look, motherfucker, I even say it in the book. I go, just get a refund if you're not gonna work the book. But the book analyzes your self-talk, your emotional control, how to have a life-ish, and how to have more energy. It even has stuff on personal finances, and that's why people like you. Do you do seminars?

Do you do like Tony Robbins style seminars? I mean, that is a compliment, by the way. I watch the documentary on Tony Robbins recently. He's fucking awesome. Like, it's a, first of all, great documentary, but the people who went there seemed to get a shitload out of it. And you remind the way you're talking about it reminds me of that.

I don't know if you can compare it. I've given it, yeah, I've given a few. I prefer the internet because the internet skills more. Mm-hmm. So the way I look at it is, you know, I can do a periscope and get like, I don't know, we did a Tess, Sernothon had like a hundred thousand people watch it, you know.

So it's hard to get me to do anything in real life because you have to do a lot of advertising. So Tony Robbins has a massive advertising campaign behind him to get, because the internet is long-sturched, yes, I do give seminars, I have one of them on YouTube, and you can watch the seminar

because another thing people don't know is I used to have this real fucked up autoimmune condition my face World shot. I looked like I was in a fire and having to meet my face shrunk. Wow. I'm kidding. Oh, no Google you can Google red skin syndrome and What's it called red skin syndrome? Oh, okay, so you can find pics of me where my eyes are spilling shot and my But I still gave a seminar because fuck it, fuck it man. You just gotta do what you gotta do. What about any advice for getting women dealing with women in the book?

Well, because I get, I've been doing stuff and growing my mindset. No women stuff. Okay, I still think that the, are you asking how to manipulate? I think you are. No, but it sounds like it's like a positive, a positivity book about like self-imagine

that I think that'll do a lot of an ensemble to make me think of something. If you have mindset, it translates into everything. That's why it went general. So here's the idea, right. You see a woman, oh my gosh, she's so hot. What goes through your head? Oh, am I good enough?

I'm afraid when she calls me a loser. That she's all all self talk though. And that's also not living in the present moment. You can talk yourself right out of it. Yeah, that's all self talk. So there's a mindset, change of girl mindset, which is just generally speaking, just give people permission to reject you

and understand that they have the right to reject you and eliminate feelings of entitlement. So the way I look at it is, yeah, this is very, very good. I've heard psychologists say the same thing, at least the good ones. It's very, it's, this strikes a chord with me for sure. Yeah, let everybody, it's just like,

your Patreon is doing great. A lot of people are gonna say, oh, you fucking, you got a Patreon, and you know, people want to hate on it. Good, let people hate on you. But that's the only way, let people love it, the same way with women. That's the only way we can exist.

Like, I mean, we were talking about this before the show, and thank God there's things like Patreon, because otherwise, these conversations don't happen. Like, no one is gonna support, no one in the traditional sense, no one in the traditional media is gonna support conversations like this in podcasts, like this, without things like Patreon.

Like, it's, but, but we know that's true, but that's true of everything in life. If you don't, anything you do, you're gonna get hate for. So, some women you approach, you're gonna get fucking hate it on. But, to get hate it on, you have to succeed. To succeed, you have to get hate it on.

It's one thing or the other. So, once you get rid of the self-talking, you just realize like, okay, why am I disqualifying myself from other people? Yeah, yeah. Make them do it. That's the way I tell people is, make, I make people reject me.

I have my messages very harsh in a lot of ways. I say things nobody else is saying in a lot of ways because I'm giving people in my own mind. They can reject me and you know what? I, not to get too all fucking hippie-dippy, I recognize their right to hate me. So when there are people on the internet who do hate me, I don't say, well, how dare they hate me.

I'm a fucking greatest guy in the world. They should love me. I realize their reality is subjective. As mine is, they have the right to hate me. And then when you do that, you start to become free and another word I hate is authentic living. But you do start to live more authentically because you realize, hey, I have the right to fucking hate anybody I want for any reason. Yeah.

Because the people have that right too. Fuck it. It's funny. You say that when I was on Ty Roth, this guy was a self-proclaimed pickup artist and they followed him around hitting on women and his success rate was like one in 20. Like he talked to 20 women and one. Paul Jankar or whatever, right? Oh, I think that was his name.

And I got on the show and they're making fun of him for getting one success, and he hits on 20 girls and one of them likes, and I'm like, are you guys fucking dumb? Like he got exactly, you only need one. That's the point. Like why are you making him feel bad because he's comfortable getting rejected by 19 women.

He's he knows he knows the secret of life. Like if you go to my Facebook chat history profile, it's fucking embarrassing. The number of drunk and messages I've sent women at two in the morning at three in the morning. Hey baby, you want to hang out sometime this week, but that's what it takes. I don't feel bad about that.

It's just embarrassing. Yeah, but the flip side to that is not to go too much into like, game or whatever, but my answer to that and the girl, my answer to that would be is you're using alcohol as a crutch and you need to Oh, yeah, that's why put it that on my to the You shouldn't you know rejection

Rejection is fine, but you should take the rejection and own it as a person because How do you handle rejection? It just makes you more resilient? Mm-hmm, you know it makes you more resilient and then as you become more resilient because you're working towards a vision of yourself Which is what people lack. So if I were single again and I were hitting on women, I wouldn't think, oh my God, she rejected me. This is terrible. I would say, well, great, she rejected me.

Cool. The next rejection won't bother me as much. And eventually, I'm going to get that fucking hot chick that I want. But to get there, you have to get beat up. But people think getting beat up is a bad thing, whereas I think it is good when life kicks in the ass. The exception is if you kidass cancer. That is actually the reason.

The rest of it is like, who gives a fuck? I just realized that I'm glad that you don't have any advice about how to hit on women in that book because you too good looking to have advice for how to hit on women. Like the last thing anybody wants to see is a good looking guy giving advice on hitting on women. You're like, oh, fuck you.

You got a you and Sean over here could go out and just pull tail for days. Let's get some advice for the more locks. I so here is the here is the big the erstwhile the hot goss question. I really I really want to get your advice on it. And this is the, this is the kind of impetus that brought you on the show. You know what? This is a good podcast. People are going to love this. Thanks a lot, buddy. You've been fantastic. Guess who? I've been in throw all the whole time. You are familiar with what Maddox did after the biggest problem ended. I had a podcast with an internet icon Maddox,

everyone knows, for two years, it went bad. We were having fun on this show, chirping about some of the kind of f**k digs that I was getting. Like he stood things like hijacking the iTunes feed. We did small ball, pittily bullshit stuff, but it's fun to chirp and bitch about that kind of thing. Like that's just the, just kind of show this is I'm very honest on the show. I guess he got triggered by one of them. He got something sunk deep

in him where he decided to make a video wherein at the end, and he leaves this hanging like he's making Schindler's list or something. At the very end, he accuses me verbatim, I think this is. He accuses this show and me of maintaining a rape list. On HN, yeah, on HN. Which is a fraud because, I mean, as a lawyer, that's borderline defamation because... Now, the border is what I'm interested as a lawyer, that's borderline defamation because... Now the border is what I'm interested in.

Yeah, is this borderline defamation? Is it a wall? Or is it... Is it a... Are current little chicken wires? Yeah. It is definitely the implication that that is your board when, because a lot of people don't know that

eight-chan, like four-chan, is an image board, anybody can start an image board about anything. No, control over it. And anybody can say anything online. So that is. And which, by the way, what they said isn't illegal. No, no, they didn't. But I'm just thinking in terms of, I'm really big into people can say what they want to

say. But if Maddox did that to me, then. Now, keep in mind, I've been BlackBed from a comedy show because of this. I was called shortly after. I'm really in a lot of damages. You know, that's the kind of thing where I would potentially. And he's going around using the old show's name on Facebook still saying that I promote. No, no, but I would just just think about just the defamation lawsuit because it's one thing when he says, I watch the whole clip, it's one thing

where to take you out of context, well fuck it, those are your words. It happens. You said that a girl would get strong, because it's responsible for what happens afterwards. That's just another way of saying, lock your car, if your car gets broken into that shitty. And I didn't say she was responsible,

I said she should expect it, like not a man or a rapist, but out of 20. Don't make yourself, well that's the whole point, don't make she was responsible. I said she should expect it, like not all men are rapists, but out of 20. Don't make yourself, well that's the whole point. Don't make yourself a victim. It's just the same thing as if I walk through fucking comped in our wats, then I should expect to be hassled. That's just reality, okay?

That doesn't mean you can don't it, but whatever, you said it, find. You know, that part I didn't have any problem with that's just life, people are gonna take out a contest. But, and by the way, I said it it knowing it was being recorded to broadcasters. Yeah, exactly. Same thing with my tweets.

People were like, oh, we found this tweet. Oh, we found it. We made this tweet that I posted publicly. Yeah. Wow. We found this story that you told them like, it cracked team. Way to go deep, bro. You really uncovered it.

You went deep in a danger and play. Congratulations, my publicly available fully indexed in Google site But at the end where he makes it seem like you're maintaining a rapeless that was That goes beyond just hitting somebody and that that was really unethical and really sleazy and Potentially defamation potentially defamation. What are the what are the criteria of defamation? You saw because I've emailed some lawyers where I haven't heard anything about it. Well, the issue is that defamation laws

is a very expensive to bring. So most people would tell you, it's defamation, but it might be a hundred grand to bring the case, you know? Yeah, what do you mean? What's it worth? You consider thinking about, sometimes you think about sending a cease and desist. A lot of considerations go into it,

but defamation is an untrue statement about you that damages your reputation in a way that you can trace to money. Right. So in your case, you are not maintaining a rape list on 8-cheon. No. That is untrue. Has it cost you money while you're not appearing on a comedy show so that's damaged to your personal brand?

People get good jobs out of that show by the way. So that's direct economic damage. Yeah. So that would be defamation. So Maddox definitely defamed you now whether or not it would be worth bringing a lawsuit or anything like that. That's a completely different conversation. But yeah, when I saw what he did, I go, man, that is definitely defamatory.

So he's a real, I went from thinking Manox was like a funny guy back in the day. His whole, that Kathy, the really skit was one of the funniest things in the world. Really is not a comeback, really, is not a comeback. Great work, but he's fucking dirt now as far as I'm concerned. He's a total piece of shit. And he runs his mouth.

If he had done to me what he did to you, you know, if the little shit goes after me for something like this, you know, probably wouldn't be a good idea. Because if he did to me what he did to you, because I'm a lawyer, I was not asking what would you do. I was, I was to the fucking guy, but I'm a lawyer. So I knew you can just work this or cane magic on you.

I have to magic. And four hours I could have a lawsuit drafted against them and he'd be fucking served. I gotta become a fucking lawyer. That's why did I spend all this time and why did I spend 10 and four hours I could have a lawsuit drafted against them and he'd be fucking served. I gotta be kind of a fucking lawyer. Yeah. That's why did I spend all this time and why did I spend 10,000 hours in elementary school when I could have been getting a fucking law degree? Why do I know algebra?

I don't need that shit. Yeah. I mean, how to sue. So if that little weasel, if he did, if he made fun of me, whatever, if he used things that I actually said and took them out of context, whatever, but yeah, if he said that I was maintaining a list of women to rape, I would 100% sooth a little fucker. Okay.

Not a quote. That's all I need to know. Thank you so much for coming by. Thank you for having me. Thank you for participating in this attack on the media. What do you think is going to happen with the media, the media of the future? It seems like as they're phasing out, like you only ever see their revenue dropping and you only ever see guys like you coming out of nowhere

and becoming these huge cultural icons. Well, I mean, think of the media as a brand or a business. Six percent of people trust the media, only 29 percent of people trust fact checking websites. If 70 percent of the internet is controversial as we are, 70% of the internet doesn't hate us or think that we're dishonest. Maybe like maybe 20%, 30% of the internet hates us,

maybe 20% loves us and the rest are like, yeah, whatever. The media has a word as, we're blacklisted, the media has actually less of a reputation than we have, which is incredible. Any other company would treat this as a brand crisis. They would be holding focused groups and they would be doing outreach and they would be like,

why do these fucking people hate us? But they're determined to just burn the boat that they're on. The answer is that people like me, Paul Joseph Watson, Stefan Mollon, you, Joe Biggs is good, Cassandra Fairbanks, you know, Gateway Pundit. They're going to try to ban us from the internet.

That's why Obama signed over control of the internet to do that. I was going to ask about that too. Because they just want to take, they'll just say dangerimplay.com is too threatening to the media establishment. Yeah. So we just won't let them register that domain name. We'll just use the main. So that's coming up.

But if they did that, here's what I always tell people, and I can say this as a lawyer, it's not illegal. There comes a time where when you take away the first amendment, that's why we have the second amendment. So if these people really wanted to ban us from the internet, the government did,

then they would have to wonder if good old boys in Georgia who are the Army Ranger Regiment are going to shoot people like me, or if something else would happen. You know, they got to be careful. I do. I hear that online. Do you really think there's a possibility of some kind of a gun involved like a violent, like civil war revolution type of scenario that you're describing? Because I look at stuff like that, what's happening?

What would I do if they banned me from the internet? Well, I'm not going to say what I would do. Sure. What do you think somebody like me would do if I were completely silenced from the internet? Do you think I'd go back to watching cable news? Or do you think I'd go out in real life? That doesn't mean I would shoot people, of course. But I would go out in real life? That doesn't mean I would shoot people, of course. But I would go out in real life

and I would raise Helen real life if people attacked me in real life for my free speech. I would certainly defend myself. That's why I've never had a protest at the many meetups I've had across the world and my seminars. I can tell people where I'm gonna be. The SJWs won't show up

because they know if you show up to me, you can protest. But if you try to physically attack me, then I will use my rights to defend myself. So if it got to the point where the only place that people like me could talk, it might be good if they banned us from the internet. Well, then we're gonna show up in real life. What I was thinking is it seems like most hackers, like the people who would wage this war

online are de facto support free speech in chaos, like the people who the most gifted hackers and technology guys who would be fighting for our side are or the side of free speech. You know, the people who are offended that we turn over control of the internet are the ones that have, they have tools that are more powerful than guns, they know their necks, because they know, yeah, not only the next, they're first, they're first in life. If you go after 4chan, there's no 4 their baby being used in front of them. Like, people who are that into technology are very protective and feel this ownership of things. They're not only that they develop and have a hand, but things that they're their technological forefathers develop. Like, I really think, I like what you're saying about this idea of people raising arms, but I think they would be technical ones. Like I think you'd see,

I think you'd see what's happening with WikiLeaks right now on a grander scale that you cannot even imagine. Because they would hack all the journalists and that's coming. That's really body. What is coming next in my view is a gray area civil war, not involving guns.

Here's what I envision happening in the near future because I've already sent this into action. I now have people waiting tables dormant. I have them spying on so-called journalists now. Anytime we find a journalist, I say this, it sounds crazy, but I believe you. Why would you not? Yeah, you can do that.

I have people read me worldwide. That's what I tell people. I'm like, people like, well, how do you have a source network? I can go, I mean, I went to Shibonet Croatia. You ever heard of Shibonet Croatia? No, I was there twice last year. Oh, where are you? Are you serious?

Yeah, no, the Croca waterfall. Oh, you know, fuck an asshole. I was like, there's something about Mary Wresley. I was like, joke, you fucking prick. So I was going to Santiago Chili twice in one year, man. I was, I was in Shibunat, Croatia. I posted a picture on my Instagram and immediately I had people email him and you're saying,

holy shit, I live 20 minutes from there. I live in Shibunat, come visit me. I can go anywhere in the world and I have danger in play readers. I have Gorilla Mindset readers. Who the fuck reads books like Gorilla Mindset? Fucking computer guys, MMA guys, military guys. Those are the people like Gorilla Mindset? Fucking computer guys, MMA guys, military guys. Those are the people read in Gorilla Mindset,

even though it's family-friendly for everybody. So yeah, people are like, well, Mike is just talking shit. How the fuck did you ever see that picture of Mike Jones, the Dallas shooter who got killed by that robot? I didn't see a picture of him, no. I posted it. I got the picture. I got, so wait, somebody took it and sent it to you?

Yeah, I got the exclusive. If you Google, Michael Johnson, this guy's all over the post. I posted the picture I got called by ABC News. They all wanted to use it. Yeah. When they found out it was me because of the blacklist, they weren't going to post the picture because they'd have to press it. Because they made a mean sound. So Daily Mail wrote it up and I think maybe New York Daily News did. But I got a picture, that's what I told people, I go, look, motherfuckers, Google, Micah Johnson, the Dallas Shooter,

his fucking corpse, I posted, I got that picture. How the fuck do you think I got it? Well, have your own imagination. I'm not gonna say why, I'm not gonna say how. But so when people question if I have these sources, I go, well, who else posted the picture of the dollar shooter, motherfuckers?

Yeah, you just keep proven, you keep proven them, you keep coming in. So here's where we're going after them. We're going to, we're now spying on journalists. And my goal is if I can get any of their lives ruined, legally, if I can reveal their affairs, all there, they have no privacy now. It is information warfare. I don't need to be violent, all there, they have no privacy now. It is information warfare.

I don't need to be violent, but I am gonna destroy, in 2017, I'm gonna destroy as many marriages and lives of people in the media as I possibly can. Because you think they're bad people. They're evil. They're trying to start World War Three with Russia, based on lies, just to cover up for Hillary

and to put us to emails. So this is now where war with evil people, I don't need to break the law to fuck their lives up. I know how to ruin their lives because I use their tactics. They try to ruin my life. Yeah, they just don't realize I play the game of the high level than they do.

They got my attention. Now what, motherfuckers? Now you can't leave. Like the Bronx tale, I asked you to be a gentleman. You didn't want to be a gentleman. Now you just can't leave. No, I'm seeing it with, even with this bullshit with Maddox. Like, I get screenshots of shit that he's saying all day

and the old account, he's still saying that my mom agrees with it like crazy shit. What'll happen with Maddox? Remember, revenge is a dish best served cold. You're going to catch him sleeping. Yeah. Because now you have people spying on him. Maybe a girl's going to say, he groped her.

Well, that is now gonna pass through you because people know you have a vvedeta against Maddox. So little Maddox is gonna end up like Devin Farucci. Little Devin Farucci, I went after him a couple of years ago, took two years. Now that guy has lost his job, no reputation. Maddox, long term plan. He's already disowned his book. You're gonna have you saw that. He already, so the social

justice where your mob turned on him once I, because when it came for me, I said, look, it's I stand by everything I ever fucking wrote. It's good satire. You motherfuckers get a book published. You like, you're talking to a professor. You're still thinking of things more red pill. Just think in terms of black pill. If I were you, you know, because defamation laws is a hard to bring, I would just say I'm gonna ruin Maddox's life. Eventually he's gonna maybe go too far with a girl.

Maybe I don't think it's rape, but if girls start talking about Maddox, but you know what? I'm gonna make sure that gets a lot of attention and I'm gonna make sure that story goes viral. That's the black pill. That's a big pill this one. My thanks for being here. I got some, if you've got a little bit of time with us Dustin, a frequent contributor to the show. He's on the line. He's got some questions for you from fans.

No, I mean, I'm just, I got a drive for fucking ever. So I'll stay here. Hello. Hey Dustin, you there. What is up? Not too much, buddy. You got some, you got some questions from Dickheads on Facebook? I do.

I do. Oh, is Mike still in the house? Yes, he is. Hey, what's up Mike? Pleasure to talk to you. Andrew Brookman, he says, I was involved in an attack on my college campus this week. I'm a polysci major studying at the University of Calgary.

While wearing my make America grade again had on campus, an individual engaged in conversation with me, the situation escalated and became physical. I did not say anything to antagonize him or provoke him. I truly did not expect this response. Since the events occurred, the situation has kind of become a social media firestorm. I'm looking for any advice on dealing with the crazy fame, stalkers, doxxers, reporters, and women that come with something like this. Delete all your pregnant porn comments, right? Go on your Reddit, delete all your, don't be leaving your first.

Don't be leaving comments on pregnant porn in the first place. Don't just, don't do that. You don't don't believe in comments on pregnant porn in the first place don't just don't do that You don't nobody nobody wants to read what you think of beautiful pregnant women Nobody just write it on a piece of paper and throw it away Why do I have sex with a submarine? If you do just write it down and throw it away Mike, what do you what do you think about this guy? You know, there's a lot to unpack there because

What do you think about this guy? You know, there's a lot to unpack there because there, if they dox you and they publicly shame you, then you're gonna be in Google forever accused of whatever, and then that could have consequences for your career. I usually tell people to lay low until they make it so that you're gonna be public anyway, and then you have to embrace infamy. So don't make yourself infamous.

Make the other people make you, because once you're in, I'm all in, you know, I'm only 30, I'm 39 I guess now, I'm all in, but I'm going to be around for a long time and there's no going back. So you got to make sure that you know that once you go all in, you're not going to turn around, this, this is your life. So be careful with that. You can't get pissed out of the pool. Google's the pool.

You can't put shit back in a horse. You can't put shit back in a horse. What else you got, Dustin? That's a great answer. Tyler Jones, he's wondering what is presently the greatest danger to freedom of speech in America, and if America loses their freedom of speech, what does that entail for the rest of the world? Well, incidentally, I have a documentary coming out silenced movie.com, and it talks about

the greatest threat to free speech, which is not the government is each other. It is the online hate mobs, the outrage culture, the tweet mining, the taking things out of context. Like the thing Maddox did to you, well, you have now been censored at the comedy club. No, yeah. Because some fucking private, that isn't the government fucking up your lives. Yeah.

That the greatest threat to free speech now, the greatest threat to free speech, each other, but more specifically is the media. They are making it so that people are afraid to say anything, totally agree. Totally agree. Totally agree.

You know, it's the 1984 bit where you're encouraged to just rat each other out. Like the number of people, the number of people it takes to not stand up for something is so because it takes, you know, I got kicked off of a comedy show over how many emails maybe, maybe two dozen band from like maybe two dozen people killed a career. Imagine if two dozen people on the other side had sent emails in support. Like all people see is the negativity. Of course. And people who sit there and know what's happening is wrong,

don't do anything. Like when are we gonna see that? Will that tie to that? And if that's their voices, don't carry the weight anyway. Maybe they do, but we don't know. You never get people writing in support. Like my job got emails saying I was a son of a bitch. They didn't get emails saying,

this is a great fucking guy. Well, it's like that in business, or if you have an experience with a store or whatever. People who have a good experience are a lot less likely to talk about it than people who feel like they got fucked. Yeah. Plenty of studies on that. It's changing though.

Yeah, that's psychologically the thing, but we're changing that. We're changing it. But the way that we got to fight back is we just got to put asses and seats. That's why I post my Twitter analytics. I don't post it to brag and suck my dick. I post it one to make people in the hoaxing media jealous of me, which they're extremely jealous, but also to let other people know,

if there's a lot of us and you know what we do spend our money, that's why I post book sales. My book fucking sells way better than anybody other than say like Bill O'Reilly. I'm the people that go on Fox News. I'm even Hillary Clinton. Yeah, I also Hillary Clinton. I fucking, that isn't me bragging. That is me saying, look, mother fuckers, we actually spend more money than these fucking

losers do. Were the ones who should have bigger platforms? Yeah. Dustin, you got one more for us? I do. I have one more here. It comes from Brett and Dreyason. What do you think was the tipping point for the social justice warriors to become as vocal as they are now? Has the anonymity of social media propelled that movement? Why did they get more vocal?

I guess it's what you're saying. They're drunk with power. They won. The left has been kicking our asses for a long time because they control all the hoaxing media outlets. For example, Carlos Slim. He's gonna put money into the New York Times. Why aren't there fucking these rich fuckers

who support us saying, hey, here's 10 million bucks. Why don't you guys start a competitor to the New York Times? Yeah, why aren't people fucking ponyin' up the big money? Cause I've ponyed up money with kick starters and everybody I've always supported people. And I'm like, well, I'm not a fucking billionaire. Well, the left wing, Jeff Bezos owns Washington Post now.

Barry Diller owns the Daily Beast. So the social justice warriors, all they are, are little pawns, little useful idiots. Well, they're so drunk with power because they have been winning. There's no question about it. I think that they, I don't think there was a switch that got thrown. I think this started 30 years ago and these people were being raised by maniacs. And when we grew up, everybody, self-esteem and shit was so important. Insane ideas were drilled into our heads about equality and self-esteem.

Meanwhile, these maniacs were going home to broken homes. They had no fucking role models and they're sitting there, stewing in insanity and hatred all fucking day. Now all those people are 30, 40. They've got cheese in their heads. Like they've got major holes in their brains that they're trying to fill with hatred and they're running the show. They're the comedians. They're our spokesman. They're running the show. They're the comedians, they're our spokesman,

they're running the media. They're fucking, it's not a media conspiracy. So these are the people that work for them. Well, that's why we have to make cultural, the mistake we made on the right was not making cultural icons. Yeah. So people are like, I'm a little bitch, Piero,

and I'm here to talk about policy, and he's a little dork, and who is that fucking transsexual? Milo? No, no, Tori, Zoe, Ter. Oh, anyway, little Ben Shapiro is on the news, and he goes, well, you're a tranny. It was a,

I remember that. Yeah. They grab Ben Shapiro and he's like, fucking afraid. Yeah. Well, what does that say about the right? You can even call him a tranny. He called the tranes woman, sir. Yeah, that's it. Something like that, but the point is he talks shit. Yeah. Well, what does that say about the right even call him a train? He called the the trains woman sir. Yeah, that's it. Something like that. But the point is he talks

shit. Yeah. And then got fucking grabbed and then cried like a little bitch, right? He did do that. So that's why he's allowed on TV and I'm not because one, I wouldn't call Zoe. If you if you fucking tell me you're a tranny, I'll call your gender. I don't care man. That's just about being civil. You know, I'll be polite, but if that fucking hero was digging in. Yeah, so he talks shit, I'm fine with that, but if you get grabs, don't cry like a little bitch

because those are the rules of street. But the point is that that's why they won't have me on TV, because they're not gonna grab me, and then people are gonna realize that the people on the right are actually the cool people. They're actually the strong people. They're the intelligent people. What they do is they hold up all these other little weak people on the right, like Glenn back a joke. He can be on TV all the time.

Because that's who the media is creating as our cultural icons. Nobody wants to be associated with Glenn back, Ben Shapiro, and those little pussies. Well, that's why the media lets them on. So what we have to do is create more cultural icons like Milo and build them up so then people realize, because ultimately people are new. Celebrity culture. You have to become a celebrity.

Mike, sir, if it's thanks for coming by, is it danger and play or danger play? Danger and play. Danger and play. Danger and play.com. Go check out Guerrilla Mindset. Go check out Maga Mindset, which we're not gonna,

thanks so much for coming by. This has been the Dick Show. I'm your host, Dick Masterson. See you next Tuesday. Ready?