The Dogg Zzone by 1900HOTDOG - Dogg Zzone 9000 - Episode 105, The Power Team Album With Todd In The Shadows
Episode Date: January 11, 2023Seanbaby needs his brothers in power, Brockway and Todd in the Shadows, to believe in Christ extra hard so he'll have the strength to smash through the Power Team Rock Album! Christian strongmen recor...ding a rock album together, it's gotta be good!
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I'm Sean Baby from the internet
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And I'm joined by number 13 of Topless Magazine's
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Robert Brockway
Here's a Brockway fact
I once corrupted an at-risk youth
With my sweet guitar solo
No follow-up questions
Okay, I guess I didn't have any
Today we're joined by long-time web tubist
Creator of the YouTube series Train Records
And one hit Wonderland
Both of which are great
He's the mysterious figure
Known only as Todd in the Shadows
Hi, I'm so glad to be here
I'm a long-time fan
What am I doing here, though?
Well...
Good fucking question
That is a very good question
Sorry, not for the powerful questions
I like your videos
I've been watching them for a while
For listeners who don't know
1-Hit Wonderland is a really well-produced look
1-Hit Wonders with smart analysis
Of what went wrong
I guess very specific kind of right
I also like Train Records
Which is like a sophisticated roast
Of high-profile failures
But here's why you're here
You did a video recently
Which I really loved
Because you usually focus on the music
But then you did one where you're like
Fuck it, we are counting down the best
90s buses, fuck you
And I felt like this is a man
Who really appreciates
The joy we feel every day at our website
Where our whole editorial process is
Fuck it, hell yeah, suck my whole fucking dick
And so, I guess that's specifically why you're here
But yeah, I'm a fan of your work
And we are also talking about music today
Which is a narrative expertise
And of course, Brockway lifts 7,000 pounds
We're talking about the power team again
Hard quotes music
Hard quotes
The power team soundtrack
This is the power team, the soundtrack, the podcast
Yeah, you didn't give me a whole lot of prep for this
So I was kind of on my own
Yeah, no, I just gave you the album
And I figured you'd be fine
Did you do a lot of research
Or did you just listen to the album?
I did a bit of research
Oh
The second I saw this
It looked vaguely familiar
But I can't tell if that's because
I'm familiar with this at all
Or if it's just because many things
In 1990 marketed to little boys
Looked like this
Yeah, it just sort of looks like it should have been
Whether or not it actually was
If someone made it yesterday
And handed it to me, I'd be like, yeah, I absolutely remember this
Yeah, the cover looks like
Just a Nintendo advertisement
For a really bad Nintendo game
That you are going to buy anyway
And be deeply disappointed by
I don't know
They look like American gladiators
But they're all holding swords
Like 1D8 long swords
Like these aren't like God swords
Or something
They went to some Dungeons & Dragons
And they're like, let's pick up
These swords and pose
The humble long swords of Christ
Of course
I mean, that was kind of a shock
When I have this little icon
On Spotify that I was looking at
And I was like, let's see what we can find
And when I saw the actual blown up photo
Wait a minute, those are swords
American gladiators are holding swords
We're all dudes
There's a very
Specific kind of buffness
They have that is like
Specifically of 1990
I don't know what it is, but buff dudes
Don't look like this anymore
Yeah, I don't know if it's because they're not on steroids
Or their nutritionists
Weren't as good
I think maybe they just had different steroids
Yeah, I think it was a different steroids
But theoretically
They should look different because
They're going for power and bulk
Not definition
They have no need to look hot
Because they do not fuck
You need to tear phone books in half
They aggressively don't fuck
Demand
Demand you do not fuck
They're
And if you do
They have those swords for a reason
To fight off the women
I'm not sure what you mean
Oh, of course, never mind
No, that was it
Or is that like how they court each other
Like, sir, we are about to fuck
Very well, I'll get my fucking sword
I just imagine that
That's how they keep you
Five feet apart
From your intended target
You see a lady and it's like
No, sword in your way
That does make sense
Instead of leave room for Jesus
That's leave room for my broad sword
Yes
I love finding new details about things
It sucks sometimes
For example, once I was making fun of a
Juggling video and never
Thought to Google the star of it and it turns out
He was an international sex criminal
We talked about him on the show before
But this episode is one of the good ones
Because while we are researching the power team
These Christian strongmen
We're talking about not the knockoff
Video game crime fighters
On the soundtrack album
And you know what
I forgot to check if any of the power team
Did sex crimes
Please, let's not Google them
Because I just now remembered the time
They came to my middle school and disagreed
About how hot some of the 12 year old
Classmates were
So I talked about that on the show too
So they probably have some sex crimes
In the past, let's not Google that
But we'll talk about their rock and roll
This was John Jacobson
Music from the ultimate demonstration
And we're coming in hot with track number one
So good
Okay, that's the perfect song to tear a phone book in half to
Just the perfect song
For a fucking
N64 third party
Game
It's the Baywatch theme, right?
Like that's the Baywatch theme
Like a little tougher
If this came on during the credits of an above average
80s action movie, I would say everything here is perfectly normal
I have no notes
Great job
I loved it, it was great
This introduces the theme that I love about this album
Which is that it's not
It's not necessarily about Christ
It's about the power Christ gives you
To beat the devil's fucking ass
Yeah
That's a really good way to describe this whole album
There's also like
What if I'm not
A power team
Like what if I'm a scrawny 90 pound weakling
Like I am
Thank God you asked
Let me tell you a little something about Jesus Christ
Our Lord and Savior
You inject him in your butt
And then you pound the weights 45 minutes
Take one hour break
I do like how
It's sort of subservient to God
In a way like it's about like the power of him
But it's also like he's my master
I feel the touch of my master's hand
I think he says I tremble at the touch of my master
But then like immediately after
He's like we're gonna go to hell
And kick these demons ass
Like fucking
Doesn't this kick ass or not?
I can't tell
It's got like a real yearning
I don't think you can fake this
Like this is a song you can't perform if you fuck
So that's another thing I like about it
Is that like it's so unique
To this person
And this genre
The song is called Power
It's by a guy named Tim Miner
Who is a Christian musician
Who seems like he's competent enough
That he got some secular work
He did songs with Paula Abdul
And Justin Bieber and Al Green
So very eclectic people he's worked with
Unfortunately he also put out an album called Not White Enough
And it has a song about exactly that
The chorus is people telling him
He's not black enough, hard enough
White enough or good enough
And it seems like
Mr. Miner
A Christian mixed race person to sing
And just an unspeakable thing
For any other person alive to sing
So I don't know
Who was telling you you weren't white enough sir?
What person said those words?
That's probably something he heard with the power team
That's probably
Yeah that is true
We got some notes back
From the kids at school
No I mean no offense when I say this
But your performance
We're gonna need it 40% whiter
Just to match
The rest of the performances on this album
It sounds like someone's typing
Are you looking up Not White Enough?
I was I'm looking at it
And I would not
This man passes let's say
I googled around to see
This is crazy I was googling around
To see what race he was
Is he black enough to even sing this
And I think he might be
He has some credits that imply
He's a part of a black community
So I guess he has some rhetorical
Authority to sing about race
But it's still
Comfortable
Man this guy had a
Truly unfortunate
Look in the 80s
That is what Google is telling me
Yeah if I remember
He had a stringy Brett Michaels
Mullet at one time
I can't tell
What kind of mullet this is
It looks more like
Like Lisa Lisa or Paula Abdul
Like it's really
Really heavily permed
Yeah
But Not White Enough
The note you have is Not White Enough
And there he is with Steve Perry
That's what Google is telling me
He did some work with Steve Perry in the 90s
Which is not the best time to be working with
Steve Perry
Not White Enough
All makes sense now
Tough song
That's one where
Part of the thing about Christian music
Is it's hard to imagine singing along
With someone to it
And singing not white enough
Like more than four people is like
A full on hate crime
Yeah that's something
Only a very
Very specific demographic
Can relate to
So I'm not sure who
Who's gonna jam to that
Just like I said
Christian mixed race people
And please god no one else
Yes
There are dozens of us
There are dozens of us
Track 2 is
By a band called Liaison
And it's called My God is a Rock
Is there anyone
Inviting
Is there anybody
To believe
Even if there isn't
There's more than you know
My God is a rock
My God is a rock
My God is a rock
There's so much stronger
His ways and his dreams
The water bottle is
So pumped
Now it's a queen song
We lost the rhythm
Sorry about that
That happens in every song
They get almost to the end of a chorus
And they're like we need more room for Jesus
So this is
A Christian band Liaison
Great name by the way
Formed by North Dakotans Larry
And Timmy Melby
And you know if your name is Larry Melby
Your only chance at cool is Christian Cool
So
Poor Larry Melby
I don't think this was written for the power team
I think this is just a song they liked
To snap baseball bats to and they put it on their album
Or is I think the last one
The power song was just for
The power team
I think they either commissioned it or
I couldn't find it on another album anyway
One of I want to say six things about power
Six songs about power
On this album
And you can tell they commissioned it because it has the word power in it
Maybe something about power
Guys as long as we're talking
Do you have any songs about
Blowing up hot water bottles?
Not specifically? Okay, okay
How about breaking down the walls of sin
We'll take it
My one note for my god as a rock
Is that they really need to shout
Rock every time they say rock
Like right afterwards, Def Leppard style
Or Twisted Sister
Be Snyder, yeah, I'd love that
My one note is that it sounds like
You're running along a beach
And a training montage
But kind of sarcastic
Right!
Like a Team America kind of thing
Yeah, it's just
It's a little too much
And recording a montage song
And then this is the band behind you
Making fun of you
I think it
I was trying to make this point earlier
It really demonstrates the problem I think most people have with Christian music
Is that even when it's rad it's still very lame
Like the song is kind of sweet
But when I try to picture the moment
That I'd have to share with literally anyone else
Rocking out to it, it just all falls apart
Which is
Like if there's two cool Christians
Imagine a cool Christian
And then they got together and sang it with each other
They're not cool anymore
And they would both instantly understand it
It's like Star Wars, kid
You feel fucking awesome when you're by yourself
But the second someone sees you doing what you're doing
The illusion shattered
Completely in reality
Yeah, liaison is
Another artist
You don't want to look up on Google
What'd you find?
Just the most glorious
Horsehair mullets you will ever see
Oh, I do want to look them up
Okay
I thought we were in like international sex past
Juggler territory
Oh, no, no, no, they're fine with that
That's what I heard
It just reinforces your point
That this will instantly
Be less cool the second you have
Some visuals for it
Yeah, like you clock him as a Christian band instantly
He has a mullet but it's like
Just like five years after his hairline started going back
So it's hanging in there but like
Just a real
Poor choice
For a hairline
Yeah, it's like legacy mullet
It almost looks like a mohawk
Except it's not a mohawk
That's just the way his hairline is receding
Yeah
There's a lyric in this song
That I've been puzzling over
A lot of lyrics for anything in this album
But more than anything
Is there anyone to confide in
Is there anyone to believe in
Even if there isn't
There's one thing I know
My god is a rock, he's where I go
Why do we introduce even if there isn't
Yeah, why drop the doubt in the middle of the song
But the song has a crisis of fate
Quickly just fix it
Maybe there's no god but you know
Even if there isn't I trust in god
Saved it
Was he talking about
Not god, was he talking about just people there
So is this just like
A random tangent he's on
Like whatever it is
He loses trust in it
At the start of a line
And gets it back by the end
It's an insane lyric
That really threw me
I feel like that's gotta happen a lot
If you genuinely believed
That there's magic angels floating around
Enslaved to some evil god
To watch you while you poop
Officially stuff like that would occur to you
And you'd be like oh this is obviously bullshit
No, no, I feel like that's
The thought process of every Christian
Every day, maybe
Even if he isn't watching me poop
I still know he's up there
This one's for you buddy
I love you
I love you god
This phone book's for you
This third track is called
Tear Down the Walls by Steven Krumbacker
With an umla
Living with walls of sand
Come on, that's bad
He could break you out
Of the prison you're in
Now it's getting good
Jesus wants to set you free
Tear Down the Walls
Living all his life in victory
Love it
I got it out before the guitar solo
That seems like a little embarrassed
It's like a really shy guitar solo
Kind of creeping in there
Yeah, a lot of the production on this
Is they really
You can easily clock it as Christian from the production
Because the guitar solo sounds sheepish
The drums aren't quite right
I mean you can clock it as Christian
In three seconds because it sounds
Like a hard rock riff
In a promotional video for like
Duluth, it's cool now
Well
On Spotify
The credits are wrong
So the number three
Is credited to Bernard Wright
Who was a session musician
And I think maybe produced some of the songs
And it turns out he was like a real guy
He was like an R&B
Kind of bubbling under guy through the 80s
He has a wonderful album
Cover for his debut album
Nard
His name is Bernard
Just call me Nard
He said knowing his career was over
Instantly
Just call me Nard
Fuck, wait back up
Ladies love Nard
LL Cool Nard
No, but like apparently
He was like a legit guy in the 80s
And a lot of his stuff
Has been sampled by like a lot of 90s hip hop
I wish by Skilo
Is like based off a sample from one of his songs
And then something
Really wrong happened in 1990
I don't know what
Tell me it's just a moment again
No, he just wound up doing stuff like this
Oh, okay
God happened
Yes, God happened
Great work again Jesus Christ
I mean he was like having hits
Up through 1985 and then
Looks like his final single
Yo Nard didn't take off
You definitely find God after you
See what the world thinks of Yo Nard
That's the one that turned him
Like I've done it, I've finally got enough cred
I'm gonna make Nard happen
And it didn't
And he lost faith in the world
His band was called
Crumbacker
He lost to Stephen, kept the umlaut
Which I thought made him seem like a
One-name artist like Bono or Grimace
But no, that was just his band name
Like Van Halen
Yeah, like Van Halen
Exactly like Van Halen really
They'd already disbanded
By the time he made this song for the power team
And you know, you heard it
It's about breaking out of the walls
Of sin with the power of Jesus
I thought this song was kind of nerdy
Even for this album
And I think it's about
From the words
Their imagery is all over the place
But I think this is about not doing sex stuff
It's about being into avoiding sin
And it's so nonspecific
I don't think they were talking about drugs
Or bearing false witness or whatever other sin
Like I really felt this is an anti-sex song
And looking at Crumbacker
He doesn't have like the Rockstar Halloween costume
Of the other artists on this album
He looks like someone who like
Checks in with his pastor about his porn addiction
It's hard to explain
But it seems like God has pranked him
With a face too small for his head
So he'd always look silly
But it's really just a test of his faith
I guess I'm just kind of mad at him for sucking
For sucking this hard
On a thing that was otherwise pretty rad
I guess
So that's why I'm mad at Steven
And his tiny little face
And his shy guitar solo
His guitar solo too shy to ask a girl to dance
I mean
I'm looking at these pictures
And they're just like rough
Because like first off
Like I think these pictures were taken like 1986
Or something so it's going to look lame and dated anyway
And these are Christian artists
Who were like the lame parody
Of what is now lame
To look at today
So it's like
There are mullets and then there are mullets
You know
We're inceptioning mullets down
Just dropping through the mullet levels
It's like a mullet on a mullet
One more mullet
You'll see us talking about the mullets
Although
The name of this album is
Escape from the Fallen Planet
That was Crumbocker's big
Big record I guess
Which is a pretty awesome name
But it's not
It's like it's a concept album
It's about God but it's based on a science fiction
Novel from 1936
And get this, not fucking
It's about not fucking
Taking the power of Christ and channeling it
Into your balls
I was not a fan of this one
I'm gonna move on to track number 4
Here's where it gets fun
This is Authority by PID
Gotta suck the devil's
They're like us, they get phone numbers wrong
You talk
Cause anyone can't fish
I love that fisherman
Fisherman Shade thrown in there
Fucking think you're special
Jesus Christ is the real fisherman
He makes that shit out of rocks
I believe the term for this
In 1990 was whack
Following full negatives
It seems like a rap song
From about 3 or 4 years earlier
A little bit
It's like a tiny bit out of date
Although like 1990
Is not like a good year to be
Up to date anyway because that was
Like one of the lamest years in history
Yeah
I don't know
I guess they couldn't afford the catchy
Samples that any other
Rapper would have been using at the time
They didn't mix up their cadence at all
So the song is fucking
5 minutes long and it's just
That non-stop
That exact same cadence
It takes so long
The samples on the track
They kind of sound like a racist Japanese arcade game
You know what I mean?
That rap boys game that you brought
So it sounds like that
But they're called PID
And when you google them
You mainly get pelvic inflammatory
Disease
Not great for your brand
It's supposed to stand for preachers in disguise
Because they're like the transformers
You have to push a thumb on them
To reveal their secret preacher rub signs
Can I say
Despite the fact that they wrapped
I was not very fooled
By their disguise
It didn't fool anybody
Also they're noticeably less good
Than secular hip hop
They're sick rhymes
You couldn't possibly be a preacher with these
Sick rhymes
There was one
Yo you need to repent
Like a camper needs a tent
And god ain't no sucker
So don't you ever get it bent
This was like the era
Like comedy movie would have
Their own rap at the end
And we hadn't quite figured out
That rapping
You do actually need skills to do
People would just assume
You don't have to sing or do anything
Why that's easy
I can get on a mic and do it myself
It's just reading a bunch of rhymes
And a vague rhythm
Anyone can do it
And I think that was a thing that persisted
I think some people are keeping it alive
I think some people are keeping it alive
And eventually we shamed
Those people into stopping doing that
But that's well along the line
So
I feel like this is a community though
That they do not have shame
Like doing, performing this rap
For a Christian audience
No one would think to walk up to them
And say, sir that was wiggity whack
I appreciate the message
It's God
That's true, I liked that message
That God was not a sucker emcee
Because God's crew is legit
Too legit to quit in fact
I went to a little college
In the middle of the Bible Belt
And so it was like a private college
But most of my, a lot of my friends
Came from like really deep
Fundy backgrounds
And they showed me some
Horrible, horrible things
They grew up with including
Something called I Love Rap Music
By the band DC Talk
Oh, I'm familiar with DC Talk, sure
I didn't know they did a whole rap album
They love rap music
They showed me this
Is it like pop music about how much they love rap music
Or is it rap songs
About how much they love rap songs
It was a rap song about how much they love
Rap music
The best kind
Yes
It sounds like something that Urca would perform
It is, and it was better than this
It was
Although I did
I did like the little sample
They had of like
I want to say it was Martin Luther King
It probably wasn't, but it was like some preacher going
Ministry of Jesus Christ
In the background
Jesus Christ
Sampling MLK on a DC Talk
Rap album
No, no, that was this song
Okay, well I'll allow it
I like that they
They saved for their last one
They had a third rapper come in
And all of his rhymes for the first half
Were about how he's going to rhyme any minute now
Which was
A crazy thing to say
And I don't know that he ever did
But he really, he threatened to
It wasn't even about
God has great feet, I love hot dog meat
It's just threatening to rap
Like I might
Rap any minute, it could happen
That was almost it, rapping
Happened, right? Let me go back
Get this man
His own theme song at the end of a comedy movie
Yeah, that's very much the vibe
It's like the grandma
Who's been hanging out with Chris
Rock the whole movie
And finally she's like, let me hit that chronic
And then gets up and performs this song
I'm glad you're here though
Because I have no idea when hip hop
Is bad
He sucked before he was a Nazi
And to this day I still have no idea
Vanilla Ice is bad
He is, and so is this
Okay, well that's good
I'm glad we're in agreement
This next one
Is by Rick Elias
And it's called Run or Hide
Run this time
Run this time
The day that you have fear
Does finally come
It feels like a Steven Seagal song
I love this shit
So we've decided
Your challenge we will meet
No more sympathy
Run in a way
If you don't mind
I think that we would like to stay
We're here to shake the gates
Of heaven evermore
Cause we're cross army
And we're kicking down that door
Nowhere to run or hide
Run or hide
Damn it
That's one of my favorite songs on this album
Because it's only
Like the other songs hint at it
This one's exclusively about
Just running down
Satan like a dog
Just like getting in your truck
Getting some boys together
And fucking running him down
Like an escaped Texan prisoner
Like we're just gonna whip Satan's ass
Satan is shaking in his boots right there
Like that was like
These are very powerful men
It's terrifying
It sounds like someone who doesn't know the words of karaoke
It's just really late
It might be my least favorite song on the album
I thought it was
It sounds like montage music from
Police Academy 8 Undercover Pastors
Not the soundtrack
This is
Music carefully taping back together
A phone book
But
The lyrics, you gotta give them credit for those lyrics
They're just like
Satan's not that powerful
Let's just get him
Has anybody tried just getting him?
Let's get him
Remember there's a Dana Carvey bit
Like way back in the 80's
Where he played a guy that was making up a song as he went along
Yes, he's Chopin Broccoli
Chopin Broccoli, yes
Look it up if you haven't heard it, it's fantastic
But these lyrics sound like that
Like just sloppy nonsense
It sort of technically rhymes
Doesn't build on anything
I love the weird little fake growls
But I guess this guy was a respected mainstream Christian producer
Really?
Was he a respected mainstream singer?
Cause he's not good
Yeah, he seems really really bad
But his name is all over Christian albums
For many years
I mean like that guy sounds
Like a Hollywood actor's
Vanity Project band
Yeah, maybe even worse
Like that guy's plumbers commercial
This next one is
It's finally one from the ladies
This is Cindy Cruz with
Even Now
Ooh
Ooh, that's some hot shit
Yeah
Little distance between us
That's some slow dance
I know you want to kiss me
But we've got to fight it
Inspired of myself
I don't know how
But so far
Even more
Whatever Christian message is in there
It's so well hidden
I think it's just a love song about a guy who isn't Jesus
Like what do you even shatter to this music
Other than hearts
Oh wait, pressurized unused balls
During a slow dance
Yeah
It opens the door to a genre
We see again later on this album
Which is kind of about fucking God
Which I don't
Think is allowed
Like I don't think God loves you in that way
I don't think that's what that means
Yeah, it's like a tender
Penetrative love too
This isn't like edging
This isn't like Christian love making
We can cut that
That might hurt people's feelings
Can I ask
During what part
Of the ultimate demonstration
By the power team
Does this play
One of them is having a cigarette
While he cries
Like imagine blowing up a water bottle
Do they wait for this song to finish
And then they pop
Like what feet of strength goes with that
They all take turns lifting her over their heads
Like the barbarian brothers
Just straight up over their heads
And then they pass her along to the next brother
Symbolizing
What they'll do afterwards
We cut that
Very subtly
Go ahead
I gotta say
Up to this point
This album was much too hardcore for me
And
This was just like a welcome break
This is what I expect Christian music
To sound like
Gloopy 90s
Soft rock ballad
Like that perfect period between
1987 and 1991
Where it was just nothing but
Wimpitude
And all this like
All that hard rock stuff is just like
It sounds like a syntax error
Like someone trying to
Like has mistranslated
Something somewhere
I understand your music
Yeah
It's so much sexier than I expected
See when I picture Christian music
Belting it out with a choir
Something not as sultry as this
It sounds like
Like a love song from Iron Eagle
Or something
This is like softcore lovemaking
About you
I mean that's what
That's pretty normal in the Christian music world
Okay well I guess I don't
Boning Jesus like it's very there
He's pretty hunky
He usually has his shirt off
You have to stare at him all day
I looked this lady up Cindy Cruz
She comes from an evangelical music family
And they put out over 25 albums
So she might be here accidentally
I think in 1990 if you put together
10 Christian songs you just find a couple
Cindy Cruz songs among them like raccoons
So
That's
That's all my research I did on that
I was like yep this is a very
Ubiquitous artist
That just seems like
You have to include
Track 7 though
Steve Shannon of Idle Cure
Performing Break the Chains
Hell yeah it's the boss fight music
The boss stage of the Bible
Break the chains of hell
Break the chains of hell rules
It's weird how every
18th line you wind up
With something that whips ass
This is what I think people imagine
When they hear the words Christian metal
It's someone singing a Cinderella
Song at karaoke but with meatloaf lyrics
I don't know
Todd you're a music guy am I making sense
Yes it absolutely does
God 1990 was such a bad
Fucking year
I think it's perfectly shitty
I love it it's about defeating and escaping hell
Through I guess fellowship
I guess like your best pals at church
It's hard to follow but that's what I love about the genre
Like as a metal singer
The fans and co-workers wouldn't
They would have noticed you couldn't
Do the metal voice like if this guy's like
To be a singer for the band
They'd be like nope you can't do it
You can't grunt or scream properly or sing
But they don't have those rules in Christian music
You can suck shit and they'll allow it
It's almost better if you're terrible because
Then they suffer like unto the suffering of Christ
I hear that
I'm hearing this and I'm just like man
When does Christian grunge come along
To wipe away all this Christian metal
Because it fucking sucks
There's no way they didn't do that
There's a Christian grunge
Isn't that what Creed was?
Oh fuck you're right
We allow that as the secular people
We're like yeah, sure Creed
You can do that
Yeah, holy shit
By the late 90s
A lot of these bands were only
Christian just because it
Was a way to get signed
And they could like make the jump
Or like some of them would like
Play footsie with the Christian crowd
Or not a Christian band
Because Christian bands suck
And we don't suck
What we believe in Christ
And all of our songs are about is message
Yes
In a way that rocks kids
We have another Tim Miner hit next
I'm very excited to get to it
This is his cover
Of Amazing Grace
hahaha
hahaha
hahaha
hahaha
now I found
What's out of my mind
Now I see
yeah
What a touch
me
hahaha
it's a glory glory glory
Somebody touch me
Glory glory glory
Oh, no, you put some stank on it.
Well, it's like some dudes like I'm going to make the hardest version of Amazing Grace
for a new generation of crass lovers.
And then just never check to see if that worked.
It's just fucking dog shit.
He's just making those noises and nobody told him.
He's like, let's see one without you just helping like a dog.
It's not that's not what soul is.
That's not what soul looks like.
There was a there was a bit in the middle of there.
They were about to sound like they were about to play radar love.
It's like, don't don't don't don't don't don't not a radar love.
I'm going to make radar love.
That's cool.
As cool as the heavy metal cover of Amazing Grace.
I think this one also had an organ solo in it, which is which is a wonderful move
for 1990.
Just I don't know every now and then you'll see someone come on to American Idol
who's like been poisoned by their own narcissism.
And they're like the I'm going to make a cool version of a really lame song.
And that's what like this feels like to me as someone who just like has never
looked at the outside world and never taken any input from anyone.
He's like, dude, I'm going to just fucking I might not be cool, but I'm the guy who's
going to make the coolest fucking Amazing Grace cover.
And I don't know.
It's it's hard to make fun of this song because it's just already maxed out on mockery.
No, it is what it is.
Yeah, I've listened to it many times now.
And when you play it right now, it was exactly as funny.
Like it has not gotten old.
You're like, if I needed to make fun of this song to the guy's face, I would just
like turn it up sarcastically.
And I feel like like I don't know if you could sing it not sarcastically.
Like if if someone was a big fan and came up and sang it sincerely, he'd be like,
fuck, you get the fuck out of my face.
I know what I did and I'm embarrassed about it.
Shut up about it.
Maybe God, I wish it seems like a 13 year old made it.
It's like this is like a 13 year old's idea of cool who has not left the church.
It's like, what if, you know, played amazing grace, but metal?
Or how much not like this draft of it?
Yeah, that's just no second take.
It's also like one third of amazing grace.
And then he forgets about the rest of the song and just like gets really lost
in how good he is at this.
Like, I'm fucking killing this.
Right, guys?
Let's just let me just riff.
Kind of remember radar love.
Let's throw in some radar love like amazing grace is like it has
lasted a good long time.
That's like like a hundred fifty year old song and people still light up for it.
Like even you don't even have to be like super into the church to enjoy that song.
And it's like, well, how can we ruin this?
Like, how can we like they don't even use the melody?
They don't even use the melody.
They just like come up with their own melody, amazing grace, sweet sound.
It sounds like that's at least 40 percent better.
Yes, I think it sounds like a whole version of it for the power teams.
Jeez, the fuck.
It is by far the highlight of this.
Yeah, still the whole album.
The next one is called.
It's a song by someone, Angie Allen, singing a song called It's Not Worth It.
I didn't take a clip from this one as a fun little joke about the title.
No, that one was my favorite.
Really, for real, or my second favorite, at least.
It says the words.
It's not worth it and it's not worth the pain like 60 times.
I'm not even quite sure what she's talking about.
Probably breaking handcuffs, right?
OK, it's definitely about fucking.
That's the line is the pleasure will never outweigh his pain.
So she's saying fucking feels good.
But you know what?
Does fucking feel as good as the crucifixion of our Lord Jesus Christ felt bad?
I don't think it does.
Yeah, she's probably right.
I don't know, man, sometimes.
Man, I got I feel bad now because I assumed it was about drugs.
Like, why?
They need to be more explicit sometimes.
They're too cagey with what they're actually talking about.
I thought this was just about sadness.
I thought this was for the part of the show where one of the power
team members can't break the handcuffs and he just gives up and goes backstage
to like get his feelings together.
I don't know, like, I feel like there is a counteractive message
when you tell people that it's not worth it.
What's not worth it?
It must be pretty good for you to.
Yeah.
So you're saying that the the problem with the the positives
don't outweigh the negatives.
Is that you just admitted that they are positives?
I was like, well, there are positives, huh?
You usually don't admit that.
So maybe I should find out for myself.
It's got to be whatever you're doing.
They wouldn't say there are positives to drugs.
It's got to be about full on penetration and how full on penetration
isn't worth it because, you know, who got full on penetrated?
Jesus Christ.
Our Lord, my Lord, my cross, the spear of destiny.
OK, I looked up Angie Allen on my own
and the first thing that came up was a review on all music dot com,
which, you know, reviews all music and it started.
Angie Allen's self titled debut is a collection of mediocre R&B tunes
with paint by numbers production and one of the most Christian lyrics
with a very high J count.
And that explains that a J count is a Christian music term
about the number of times Jesus is mentioned on an album.
It's great. I would have got that just from the name.
Yeah. Well, I love that this is
that this is a Christian music critic.
Yes, meaning that, meaning that that industry has critics and they don't
like something and they don't like something and they would dare to call
something within that genre mediocre, as if you want to break that seal
and be like, let's let's throw this word into our lexicon.
Now we can refer to our music as mediocre.
Oh, well, all of it is then or below average.
Are you? Was this a good idea?
Well, if this is if this is mediocre, what's the bad Christian music?
Seriously, got a real high M count now.
Uh, what's
Merkin, you got Merkin's too much.
Yeah, I was trying to think, what's the silliest M word?
I'm glad we gave you that time.
Thank you. We'll just cut it out when people think what a quick wit that man has.
Yeah, I lost where I was.
My brain is completely filled with words starting with M
that weren't quite silly enough to say out loud.
God gave us the power is our next one by by Dboy.
Oh, yeah, that means it's bad.
I thought we already did that one.
Yeah, we did exactly this song.
I didn't bother to take a clip because I could just
play P.I.D. again.
Oh, yeah, we're not really going to play P.I.D. again.
The next track.
Yeah, that's right, Dboy.
We just fucking skip to you, pal.
Track 11 is by Ken Tamplin.
He's got to be they got to call this guy the Jesus Dio.
He's performing. Take him back.
Take him back.
I think he's good in the backup singers.
But that was sweet.
Yeah, I don't know.
I guess it's I like Dio so much that I liked this song.
Yeah.
And I couldn't understand what he was fucking saying,
aside from where the children of the light coming at you, crashing through the night.
That was like, that's some Dio shit.
OK, I'm on board. Yeah.
Yeah, I would have not clocked that immediately as a Christian song,
which is the highest compliment I can give any of these songs.
You sound like you don't care about God at all.
It's the nicest thing you can say to a Christian artist.
I would have heard it and said,
this is a really shitty Dio song, which means it's pretty good.
Right.
This guy, I looked him up.
He is Sammy Hagar's cousin.
And he had a decent.
Yes, he had a decent.
Oh, I don't think it was a failure, though.
He had a pretty decent music career with three Christian bands,
and he went on to be a successful vocal coach.
He also shreds on the guitar like I found a clip of him just fucking an electric guitar up.
I think his sounds were completely wasted on this God crap.
Like, I think this guy could have made it, but whatever.
I'm sure he did fine as a Christian musician, I think.
Oh, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think it's a fucking teaming up with Daryl Luggins.
I just looked up.
I just looked him up on Wikipedia and there's an amazing quote from his famous cousin Hagar.
Hagar says, I've only met him once, but he sends me his.
But you know, he sends me his records and all that stuff.
End of quote.
Oh, that's amazing.
Went into the public space and said I do not know my cousin. I don't know him, but he keeps setting me
He does test for me though. Oh
I need to go take a walk
It did not elaborate at all and someone felt felt fit to
Put that on his Wikipedia page and there is only one person who is editing Ken Tamplin's Wikipedia page
Yeah, we get together. Let's just get together on motions
Just brutal I love that that song started out
We were like this kind of whips ass and then the sadness of his life
Yeah, I don't know that guy says famous cousin Sammy Hagar
Uh, amazing. So track 13 is another Steve Shannon of idle cure song
I might have skipped one. I skipped track 12. I don't remember why
Um, oh, it was a wrecked Elias song, which was like a ghost whining
But less musical than that. I fucking hated it. So I'm like, we're not gonna listen to that one
But uh track 13 was kind of sweet. This is another Steve Shannon of idle cure song
I don't know who idle cure is but uh, Steve Shannon was part of this called power to win
And it is way better than the last Steve Shannon of idle cure song
Finally another song about power. It's been three songs. We had a song about power
Here I am
Just a man
But I know I'll go the distance
Spray an eagle seven credits
I will not fall
Sounds like he's singing with like a dog collar that just goes up sometimes
Did you leave in all 800 words of this 20 minute course?
I don't think going
Of jesus christ and he has the power to win
I'm stronger than all of the demons in hell. Yeah, no bullshit is real
I love it. I love that one. You know what I mean? Like every 18 lines they get one line
I'm stronger than all of the demons in hell, which is just the raddest fucking thing anybody's ever said
It's kind of a poor man's saint almost fire. Yeah a little bit
I mean, I mean, that's a great song. Yeah, so was that obviously like being a poor man's deal. Hopefully let's find out how sad your life is
I've never heard of my cousin the christian one
He's done some of these records. We shoot them on my estate my shooting estate
Uh, I don't know power to win if if you had this blasting
I would fucking headbutt through a block of ice proudly and dedicated to christ
Yeah, you can tell which ones they do feats to which ones are for feats and which ones are for
recovering from
busting your head open on a block of ice
to put some work drugs
Definitely, there's a couple of herniated disc songs on there
A couple of prolapsed anuses. I love just in general the whole theme of this album
Is is like flexing on demons, but not not metaphorically like they got huge for christ
And then every single one of them was like, all right. I'm huge enough to choke out satan. Where is he? Let's go
I did it like that's what all this was for
I mean like presumably this means be that they are literally going to wrestle satan because
I mean, it's a very literal metaphor. Yeah, they are that jacked for a reason, right?
Yeah, somebody told them they have to wrestle with their demons and they were like, I'm gonna fucking kick those demons ass
Yeah, I don't understand what it would be a metaphor other than like traveling to hell itself and fighting the demons
uh, or
The sky rips open and they fall here and then they fight them here. I don't know
Uh, but i'm on board like I say this is fucking. I'll play that game either way
Yeah, about the bodybuilder just ripping demons ass
I would like it to be sort of fmv like digitized from actual photos like pit fighter
I feel like that's the best way to handle a game like that
That's the best way to handle bulk in video games. You really get the sense and that in all that grain of like, yeah
That's that that veiny bulk. I need right you want two frames of punch
You want one arm straight up and then one arm straight out?
So it kind of looks like just a big hammer fist
And one kneeling to the power of christ
Right. Yeah, get get the bodybuilder to duck take a picture of that. That's his duck
God, this is gonna be a good game. Let's do it
I think i'm avoiding talking about the last song because it's another liaison song
Uh, which sounds like something richard marx would wipe his ass to it just fucking
sucks
I didn't even take clip. It's a great one to end the album though. You have to admit like that's how you tell everybody
Okay, the good times over
We need to get this auditorium ready for
For the amazing randy who's gonna who's gotta show at eight. Let's go. Let's get moving
What did they
Where did they perform?
It was just like a school thing. He would do school stuff, but they didn't talk about god at their school
I told the story last podcast we talked about them
They came to my school and told everyone not to do drugs
And they did a feat where they put two girls on a bench and lifted them and so they sent one power team into the crowd to find
Uh, two girls and he brought them back and the other guy said no, no, no
I'm gonna go find two girls
So he found two girls made the first to sit on the side of the stage while he lifted the second pair
and then
uh
Sent them all back to their seats and we even as 12 year olds figured out
Oh, that first guy got girls that the second guy didn't think were hot enough
So he went out to find the hottest children
And we saw that happen
To lift them and we watched that drama play out before our eyes
And those two girls had to live with that that they were not hot enough to be lifted by the power team for the rest of their lives
To be lifted up by jesus christ jesus christ doesn't he doesn't lift sevens. I'm sorry
So yeah, like I feel like this discussion here
uh
a uh
A repeat of a previous story on the podcast is the perfect way to discuss this liaison song because it is a garbage song
That no one should ever talk about
um
In fact, we're gonna go out on power to win again
Well, let's go. We better cut the podcast right when he says i'm stronger than all the demons in hell
The last thing i gotta say to anybody we're gonna go out on every single
track
It's too powerful
There's too much power. Happy fucking birthday jesus. Put it on the demons in hell. I'm stronger than all the demons right now
I'm stronger than all the demons in hell
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