The Dogg Zzone by 1900HOTDOG - Dogg Zzone 9000 - Episode 12, Miami, Mona Lisa, Mud Cookies and... Murder?!
Episode Date: March 1, 2021Seanbaby and Brockway skate up to David Bell and peer pressure him into revealing his Miami Connection. Brockway loses his Equilibrium and Seanbaby Traxx down a wanted criminal. It's Worst Movies We S...till Love! You'll learn way more than you think on this one. For example: Did you know some art is good? Stay tuned for more bombshells!
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One nine hundred hot dog.
One nine hundred hot dog.
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Say hot dog podcast word.
Yeah.
When you taste that nitrate power,
you're in the dog zone for an hour.
Come on.
You know the number.
One nine hundred.
One nine hundred hot dog.
One nine zero zero.
One nine hundred hot dog.
One nine hundred.
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One nine zero zero zero.
Yeah.
Nine thousand.
Welcome to the dog zone.
Nine thousand.
I'm TV's Sean Baby from the internet.
And with me is the legendary
cracked editor and handsome fellow
Robert Brockway.
I am honored to be here.
I'm just, I'm such a big fan.
I've always dreamed of this day.
Of the dog zone.
Yeah.
Of the dog zone.
Of your work.
Of my own work.
I'm just, I'm honored.
Yeah, you're the best.
Yeah, I know.
I'm honored that you're honored.
And we have another old friend
from the website we just mentioned.
David Bell.
Hi.
I also dream of things.
I dream of, this is a,
this is a dream I had.
Really?
Yeah.
Of being on the dog zone.
Nine thousand.
Yeah.
Of one nine hundred hot dog.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks for having me.
I am honored.
Of course.
A window into my life.
I got the, the second dose of a
COVID vaccine yesterday.
Oh, shit.
And a lot of people are,
their bodies are reacting in
different ways.
It's pretty, the first one was
very easy going, but this last
one, some, something in my
skeleton decided to fuse with
all of my organs and just to
create a giant dry cracker inside
my body.
So I got a luxurious four hours
of sleep last night and I woke
up in cracker form.
And my sweet daughter is
turning four years old tomorrow
and I built her a full size
trampoline today, which is
probably the worst thing I
could have done.
And so I'm mostly just a pile
of cranky gravel right now.
So if this is a terrible show,
blame COVID.
All right.
And my current immortality.
So.
Yeah.
Specifically blame getting
vaccinated.
Yes.
I want everyone to know
vaccines are dangerous.
Don't do it.
Yeah.
Bill Gates knows exactly where
I am.
I don't know if we should joke
about stuff like this.
No, maybe not.
Maybe it's fragile territory.
Just have all the vaccines.
I think we all have.
Don't get the cracker vaccine.
The cracker vaccine is the wrong
one.
Yeah.
I got the bad one.
Drink lots of water.
That's the other thing is I
haven't had a glass of water
since about 2004.
So that's probably my bad.
Yeah.
And I know a lot of our
relatives are legitimately,
you know, crazy like I was
joking.
So I maybe, maybe it's not as
funny as I wish it was.
I really give myself a lot to
think about.
You're literally learning
something.
You taught yourself a handy
lesson here.
And one of the things we like
to do on the show, first, I
get on and I complain a lot as
a comedy writer.
I mostly just fuss all day.
That's my job.
And then we like to talk about
our current projects or recent
projects.
So, David, do you have
something fun you're working
on?
Something fun I'm working on.
Well, that you just did.
Oh, geez.
Let's see here.
I just did a episode of Hypecast
from my podcast network
Gamefully Unemployed with a good
old Jason Parjan.
So it was nice, a nice brisk two
hour long episode.
Yeah.
You're not getting out of that
one.
Yeah.
Here's a fun fact.
I've been on that show and I
know that gentleman.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So what movie did you talk
about?
What was the question?
What movie did you talk about?
What movies?
Oh, God, all of them, you know.
No, we talked about the lineup
this year, like 2021, how it's
filled with movies that we were
supposed to see like two years
ago, a year ago, like the Black
Widow.
But then also like the Mortal
Combat movie.
And I don't know about you guys,
but that's really all I need to
see this year.
I didn't know nothing about it.
I didn't know they were making
a new one.
Is it a sequel or a reboot?
No, it's a reboot.
It's coming out on HBO Max
because, you know, nobody wants
to go in theaters.
It's coming out, I don't know,
like April.
Yeah.
I don't know anything about it
either.
Who's casting the, who's Liu
King?
I don't know.
I don't know.
All I know is Mortal Combat.
Yeah.
I think it is mostly unknowns.
No, they're not going to reboot
the song.
Why would they?
No, that's my only condition.
I'll watch your entire movie for
that song.
Like, like people listen to this
entire podcast for our song.
Oh, yeah.
Which, you know, there's, there's
like a moment in some movies where
you're like, OK, this is magical.
And Mortal Combat Annihilation had
a moment like that where ninjas
were dropping from the sky on
fire and you're like, this is
great.
And then the two lady fighters,
I think it was Malina and
I can't remember.
But they had a mud wrestling fight.
I might have been Sonya.
I can't remember.
It's Sonya.
I believe it's Sonya and Jax is
there as well.
Yeah.
And so the ladies had like a
sexy mud wrestling fight, which
was very much like a, hey, we
don't give a shit.
We're going to put this in the
movie and we know what this
looks like, but we don't care.
And then they, I guess
they went into a cave and there
was like a nice shower in there.
So she came out and she was like
completely free of all the mud.
And I thought, this is a movie that
really does not care.
They had a goal.
They wanted a mud wrestling fight.
They knew that would fuck up the
whole movie.
And they just said, no, no, just
have it work out.
I think Mortal Kombat Annihilation,
they knew they knew what they knew
what we wanted, which is as many
Mortal Combat Characters as they
could jam into that movie.
And they did it.
There was another moment in the
first one where Reptile
appears and the movie stops and
says Reptile.
And I thought that's fucking
good choice.
Fucking great movie.
Yeah.
I'm okay with the movie being as
embarrassing as it wants as long as
it doesn't equivocate.
As long as it doesn't
apologize and be like, yeah,
well, here's the reason we're
doing an embarrassing thing.
No, just do it.
There's a shower in the cave.
Nobody's going to question it.
Who cares?
Some asshole, all cranky with a
skeleton full of gravel is going
to mention it.
What, 30 years from now?
What an asshole that guy will be.
Yeah.
There's another scene I love in
the first movie where Liu Kang
punches Shang Tsung in the face
and Shang Tsung goes, you fool.
Which is just like they're in a
fist fight trying to punch each
other in the face.
It seems exactly what he was going
for.
He nails it and I just love it.
I love when the ending battle,
he has to like face himself
and like face the enemy.
And there's like three tests and
one of them, the test is just the
bad guy saying, I've seen your
fate, you will die.
And then Liu Kang just goes, no,
I won't.
And then they just move on.
It was like, wow.
The perfect counter.
How did you know?
There's a puzzle element.
There's a puzzle element in the
first one where the magic lady
says, in your next match, use
the element that brings life.
Yes.
Which could be any four of the
elements, right?
Right.
It's sub zero and he stops in
the middle of the fight and just
fucking makes us freeze ball for
an hour and a half.
And then Liu Kang finally is like,
oh, I got that bucket of water,
which was like left there by the
magic person.
The magic person could have
absolutely said, hey, throw this
bucket of water at him.
Like so many steps.
Yeah, bucket.
Okay.
Yeah.
I like to picture Raiden
gathering that bucket, figuring
out a good place to drive it,
meaning like, will he spot it here?
You think it'll spot it here?
This looks like a good spot.
I'm just going to maybe a little
you'll find it.
You'll find it.
There's like a fortress employees
like, hey, aren't you like the
Chinese god of lightning?
What are you doing with that
bucket?
What?
What?
You're up to something with that
bucket.
That first movie, there's there's
they they joke about it where
Johnny Cage brings like a bunch
of luggage.
Right.
But they are staying for like a
week.
Yeah.
So it does mean that they do
have like rooms, right?
And like bathrooms that they're
using.
And like, I don't know, whatever
the equivalent of a vending
machine is there.
Like they don't really talk about
it, but they are just like, it's
like a resort.
They're staying for days.
The Mortal Kombat resort.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's one of my favorite vacation
destinations.
I believe it's the sandals.
Yeah, exactly.
And if you try to make a case for
it being a perfect screenplay, I
think you did.
Like that's good character
development.
He's kind of a high maintenance
dude.
Yeah.
It lets us know that he's going
to be there for a while.
It's elegant writing.
It's perfect.
It's a perfect film.
Perfect movie.
I'm excited for the for the sequel,
prequel, reboot, whatever you
want to call it.
Here's the thing.
The the the reboot is rated R
and is promising to have fatalities.
So that's that's the most I know
is that I don't think.
Yeah.
I don't think it's going to take
itself seriously.
But I think it's going to be.
I don't know.
Pretty pretty gruesome at least
and fun to watch.
And I think it's going to be the
best thing ever.
And I'm excited for it.
I also appreciate how Mortal
Kombat never left the exact
age group it was targeted at in
1990.
Like if you play Mortal Kombat now,
all the DLC characters are like
Robocop and Predator and God,
who else the Terminator to the T
800.
It's just it's exactly for like
middle aged men.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
So anyway, I love a hypecast.
It gets me maximum hype.
Get you high.
That's crazy.
Our show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's good to hear.
I've been working on I've kind of
been on a kick about alien
abductions and I've been sort of
collecting alien abduction
survival books.
And the issue I'm running into
is they're all exactly the same.
Like they're all written by people
that are obviously the same like
alien group therapy and they all
sort of talk about how like space
aliens come down and then they
list the exact symptoms of sleep
paralysis.
And so you just kind of feel sad
for them.
We're like, oh, you guys just have
sleep paralysis with like
imaginations.
And and then they talk about how
like assertive they are to the
aliens.
They're just like these really
sad lonely people who are like
sometimes when I tell the aliens
to fuck off, they don't take me
to space.
And like that that's how strong
I am.
So try to think.
Don't touch me alien.
And they'll spread that tiny
sentiment out across like 250
pages along with like child like
drawings of the monsters that took
them to space.
Anyway, I've written two on the
site already.
I don't think I'll ever be able
to write a third one because like
what else is there to say?
I just summed up every alien
abductions to rebel book that
will ever be.
I wonder if they all know each
other.
Do they mention each other by
name?
They mention the same stories,
but not like the other authors.
I haven't run into that yet.
They're bound to like go to the
same conventions or something,
I'm sure.
I've just actually been reading
about cryptids because I'm
working on a podcast about
cryptids, specifically the
Loch Ness Monster.
And that's also a hell of a
hell of a history.
The whole podcast is about the
Loch Ness Monster.
No, I'll do an episode about
Loch Ness Monster.
And I looked into the history of
Loch Ness Monster and it's just
it's mostly people seeing eels.
Like that's I think mostly what
the Loch Ness Monster is.
It's kind of a monster.
Yeah.
There was a brief period in
World War II where like the
Nazis.
That's the one where we
bought the eels.
Yeah.
The Nazis claim to capture the
Loch Ness Monster.
And then Mussolini claim that
an Italian pilot bombed the
Loch Ness Monster.
So the Daily Mail put out a
counter story saying, no, we
have a witness here who saw that
he was bombed, but he got away.
So they didn't say like that's
not true.
They said they yes and did the
Mussolini story to add no unless
he got away.
So embarrassing for Mussolini.
It's just not hot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Paranormal stuff like reading
it because they're written by
people who 100% believe the
stories.
Yes.
So everything is framed from
that perspective.
And it's very funny what like
obvious things they are saying
is like Loch Ness Monster or
ghosts.
And it comes really embarrassing
because they all like just
completely breathlessly believe
anyone who comes up to them.
So they'll have like, you know,
some total asshole who's just
fucking with them being like, oh,
yeah, aliens took me, but I like
punched one in the face and
they'll be like, so this this is
proof that you can punch aliens
and get away.
Yeah.
One weakness.
And they came to the one planet
absolutely full 80% punches to
the face.
Right.
It's like the movie signs where
their weakness was water.
Like the their actual weaknesses
punches to the face and they
came to the planet filled with
punches.
Let me tell you why I love
signs so much early in the movie.
Mel Gibson's wife.
This is a lot of spoilers if you
haven't seen the two thousand
signs.
So
wife gets like smashed in half
by some train or something.
Yeah.
And he's hanging out and they
know she's going to die.
Like, dude, as soon as they pull
this off you, you're going to
fall in half and just you're
gone.
And so she's like, tell our son
to swing away.
And he's like, whatever.
She's like, oh, what a
chittering madman just saying
crazy shit while she dies.
But then later all of these like
planned payoffs come together so
that an alien is like standing
next to a glass of water because
the little girl leaves glasses of
water everywhere.
And then here comes his son
right next to a baseball bat.
And he's like, oh my God,
swing away.
This is it.
So he grabs the baseball bat
and hits the alien with baseball
bat.
He hits the water and then
that's how they figured out
which but I love it because I
feel like you don't need to
saw like a woman in half to
think of like hitting an alien
with a baseball bat.
But like it's very clear that
God chose to murder his wife to
give him that hot tip.
Yep.
And well, you know, you remember
who plays the guy who sought
his wife in half with a car,
right?
It's M Night Shyamalan.
He plays God.
Well, he's the guy who drove
the car.
So he is God.
He was God.
He's basically God in every one
of these movies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's another theory.
Let's talk about M Night Shyamalan
for a minute because there's
another one where they're all
trapped in an elevator except
one of them is the devil.
Right.
And my favorite.
There's like my favorite elevator
pitch.
Yes.
It's great.
Robert.
I was going to say where the
fuck is Glick for that?
Come on.
So they're in there and one of
the guys is Mexican.
And so he's like, oh, I know
what this is.
Sometimes the devil will show up
at an elevator and it's just
like that's what you have to deal
with.
We have a story and we have a
fable of people about the devil
in an elevator.
Right.
Right.
Well, that's what we're going
to talk about.
We're going to talk about
the devil in an elevator.
Right.
Right.
What I love about that is like
Mexico is right next door.
Like we all have multiple
Mexican people in our life and,
you know, we learn Spanish in
school.
This is not a wild exotic
location where they're like, oh
yeah, these crazy people have
these these customs where the
devil shows up in elevators.
It's like, no, no, no.
We know this is make believe.
We could just ask.
When you grew up across the
border, did you ever have any
devils in your elevators?
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Yeah.
We've got elevators.
That's what I love about it.
Oh, you did, devil?
Oh, every single one.
Oh, all right.
It's like a rule for horror
movies, right?
You just have a character like
that, and if they have an accent,
then we're like, well, I guess
they know what they're talking
about.
It's a Native American, of course
they have some sort of magic
power.
Yeah.
You know.
Wouldn't it be great if there's
a Native American in my
respectful scenario and he was a
total dipshit, wouldn't you love
to see that just once?
You ever see the Chupacabra episode of X-Files?
Because that begins with, it's just about a guy
with a like skin disease.
And because at the very beginning,
Mulder talks to an old woman
who uses the word Chupacabra for the rest of the episode.
Mulder is just referring to this guy as Chupacabra.
And that's the episode.
Like the Chupacabra episode of the X-Files
is just a guy who happens to be Mexican.
So Mulder is calling him Chupacabra.
He's like, agent, I just have like psoriasis.
You've got to leave me alone.
Yeah, he's got stuff coming.
This is so racist, Mulder, even by this lens of the 90s.
This is very racist.
Yeah, it's like a fungal disease that kills other people.
Like it is a hazard,
but it has nothing to do with the Chupacabra.
It is the Chupacabra.
Yeah.
That's what we call that disease.
My name's Larry.
I'm like ninth generation, dude.
Yeah.
I don't even speak Spanish.
From Long Beach.
Anyway, so the devil lives in elevators.
Yeah.
Ask your local Latinos to tell you more.
Any Latino.
Don't even preface it.
Just be like, so how about that elevator devil?
Have you seen that guy?
Preferably bring it up in an elevator, right?
Right.
Just accuse them of being,
if there's only one other person
and you know you're not the devil,
you have to be sure you're not the devil.
Right.
And then the other guy's got to be the devil.
Elevator.
And you say it like this.
You say, con permiso, hay muchos diablos en este elevador.
Probably.
I don't think that's right.
Elevator.
They'll get it.
They'll know what you mean
because you'll be in the elevator.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just point it all around you.
They'll say, what the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah.
They'll know.
No, they'll be like, oh, you saw that movie.
Yeah.
Our secret's out.
Right.
Son of a bitch.
Best part is when he drops the toast.
Doesn't he drop toast
and it like lands butter side down
and he's like, see the devil's here.
By the way, that's not, that's not proof.
That's by M. Night Shyamalan.
That one was like produced.
Yeah, and wrote it.
Right.
His true strength.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what you want.
I think one of you six people is the devil,
but I need to be sure.
Does anyone have any butter?
You did bring toast on the elevator.
Oh, good.
What a coincidence.
If you butter a cat on the back,
that will make the cat levitate if I,
if I'm understanding the physics right.
Because the cat will always shed on its feet,
but your toast always lands butter side down.
So the universe can't decide what to do with it.
Listen, I don't have the range to do
a Jiminy Glick impression.
So you're going to have to Glick yourself.
That's very cute of the other cat.
That's what they're about to do.
How did we do it?
Brockway, what are you working on these days?
I am working mostly on healing my broken goddamn shoulder.
What'd you do?
It's not broken.
It's just falling apart on me.
I have no idea what I did, but it stopped working.
Now it makes a horrendous sound when I move it,
which it turns out since I'm on the computer,
like 14 hours a day,
basically all I do is move my shoulder.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you like pull ups?
What you want to do is do some pull ups.
Before you do the pull up, eat like a large pizza
and that'll increase your weight,
make pull ups a little more effective.
That makes a lot of sense to me.
This is the first diet that's really speaking to me.
I know, aside from that,
I've been doing a lot of research for stuff
that I really hope I can one day get to.
And I bought the Infernal Dictionary,
which is a book of demonology,
that's supposed to lead the book on demonology
full of illustrations from like the 1800s.
That is dumb as shit.
It is dumb as shit.
Somebody pointed it to me from our Discord,
who is fantastic,
even though I do not have who it was
right in front of me right now.
Well, thank you.
We'll fill in that name in post, I'm sure.
And so are there like stuff that,
are there things you can actually do?
I guess that's what I love about magic books
is when they say like,
oh, here's a potion that will do this.
And you can just test it at home
and like prove magic is fake.
You know what I mean?
No, it does my favorite thing where it's just cocktails.
It's just gaming characters.
So it's like 150 pages of just a list of every demon
and what they do and what they look like.
And so I am putting together a 13 crappiest demons
in the spirit of your 13 crappiest dinosaurs.
I saw that in our spreadsheet.
Yeah, introduce you to my best friends here.
This is Orcus, he loves tuna sandwiches.
That is not very far off.
I just opened it at random to Malthus
who is a crow in trousers
and he carries like a spade,
like he's gonna lay some bricks.
His name's Malthus.
So if I see a crow in trousers,
I'll know that that's a demon.
That's a demon.
He's the great president of the underworld.
That's a crow in trousers.
It could just be a crow looking for work
or something like that though.
That's pretty much what he is.
The sound of his voice is horse.
I saw Blue Jane trousers
and he said he was city control in this world.
No, that doesn't count.
That's probably-
That's a cute little joke I made about, what do you wanna say?
That's probably just a Blue Jane.
He's not in here.
But this crow gives familiars.
He receives sacrifices and he deceives priests.
I mean, everybody receives sacrifices, right?
But he deceives priests.
He tricks them.
Tells them like the wrong directions
when they ask how to get to the present yogurt joint.
He taps on their shoulder
and he's on the other side of them.
So they look the wrong way.
And that's what made him-
He confesses his sins and then he's like, just kidding.
That's what made him a great leader
of the underworld of hell
is lately deceiving priests-
Democratically elected.
And having some bricklaying experience.
Right.
And I imagine that's a very long term you serve
as like a president in the underworld.
It's probably not like a four year term.
I feel like it's one of those things where-
I mean, you have to update the book a lot, right?
Where everybody is special.
Every demon is like,
oh, he's a great king in the underworld.
Oh, this guy, he's a true king in the underworld.
This guy's a real king in the underworld
just because there's so many shitting demons.
And you don't want them to feel bad.
They're already in hell.
It's like, this is rough enough for them.
And if they can't mess you up,
they probably at least know somebody who could.
So you don't want to offend them.
Yeah, there's one guy-
Like this crow's not gonna do shit to you,
but like, crow might know somebody.
Yeah.
Is there like a go for me
where we can like send some baby blood
to like cheer him up?
To cheer up the crow?
Yeah.
To cheer up Malthus or his vice president, whoever.
I really don't know.
I feel kind of bad for these demons.
You should.
Like they don't have a lot going for them.
One guy, he just invented frying.
And I guess that's what makes him a demon.
Frying?
I think it makes him really nice.
Like deep frying.
Yeah, that sounds like it makes him an angel.
No, apparently straight to hell.
If you fry something straight to hell.
And then you meet Bill Fry or whatever.
Right.
God, that's the thing, you go to hell
and you're like, what did I do?
And they're like, it's frying.
Yeah, you shouldn't have-
Really?
Did you not know?
It was named after Fry, the demon fry.
It's like one of the only like three things
people go to hell for too.
And everybody does it.
There's so many rules to stay out of hell.
Yeah.
Well, apparently it's not that bad
if this book is by any indicator,
you can safely take, I want to say,
89% of the demons in hell.
And if you safely just whip the holy shit
out of 89% of the demons down there,
I'm going to bet the remaining 11,
they don't come after you so much.
Yeah.
Well.
Yeah, they've got too many to deal with.
I feel better about my chances
than I'm going to go make some french fries tonight.
I'm going straight to hell, you guys.
Guaranteed, I'm going to work on it.
Oh yeah, we're all going.
Same with the people listening.
They didn't like we're just by association.
We're dragging them all down with us, right?
I told you about frying that day.
That was it.
See you in hell.
Yes.
I was just going to do the rest of the podcast backwards.
Nice.
I mean, I just been working on my demons this all.
Cool.
Well, I look forward to reading that.
Because I love the supernatural books,
like just kind of written down as a matter of fact stuff.
So you can just understand like the political workings
of the underworld.
And I just love how it only takes one or two details
before you just suddenly like, what the fuck?
This is so stupid and ridiculous.
And when they're when they're old like this one,
and it's like two or three hundred years old
because the bar has moved so far on what is frightening.
They're just like, look at this owl.
He's he's got like he's got like a sloth head.
Also, is the only like qualification of this book
is that it's old?
Like who wrote it?
Do they have some sort of experience with demons?
Or is it just someone from a long time ago?
And so we're like, well, it's probably correct because apparently
written by Colin Diplancy, who does not inspire
no demonology expertise.
But Colin this book of demons.
That was the original author.
This version has been edited together by Diableto Ordo Al Ghul.
See, that's a demon name.
That guy knows his demons.
That is a demon guy.
Yeah, that sounds like some ninth gate shit.
That makes me feel better.
That sounds like one of my high school
goth girlfriends friend that really doesn't like me
for dating his goth friend.
Yeah. Now, it's crazy.
Did your shoulders start hurting
after you started fucking around with this demon book?
I did. I bought the demon book and I hadn't read it.
And then my shoulders started giving me problems and it forced me.
It forced me to read the demon book.
Yeah, this is already more evidence
than I've seen in 25 alien abduction survival guides.
Just yeah, hell's a little bit of solid.
So what you want to do is you want to take that book to your backyard,
bury it at least 12 inches deep.
Yeah. And you know, rub some coconut shavings on top
and that'll make the book fall in love with you.
And then I think you just ask it to leave you alone.
You got to eat it, right?
Two. I feel like you got that's a book you want to eat.
You just put coconut on it.
Sounds pretty good. Yeah, it sounds delicious.
Be ashamed to waste. All right.
So problem solved. Yeah. Great job.
So the actual thing we're working on today.
Oh, right. We're doing a podcast.
Rockway to hell.
We are doing a podcast.
We're going to talk about terrible movies that we love,
like movies that are crowd pleasers when you like show them to your friends.
They're objectively obviously bad, but somehow lovable.
And we've each brought our own example.
So, David, would you like to share yours first?
Yeah, I don't think this is an obviously bad movie when I brought in.
Well, then you fucked up the whole premise.
Yeah, I want to talk about I want to talk about the movie Miami Connection.
Oh, see, that's a fucking sweet.
I didn't know you were bringing that. I like that movie.
That's a great it's a great movie.
It's got it's known for being bad.
But I don't think I really don't think it's that bad.
It's this is all right.
For people who don't know, this is a movie from 1987
by Y.K. Kim, who, I believe, owned a series of like
karate like studios.
And he met someone named Richard Park or Park Woo Sang,
and they both decided to make a movie about Taekwondo together.
They filmed it in Central Florida for a million dollars.
And that's a million dollars.
That's that's the like estimated budget from the Internet.
Who knows, like, you know, who knows what it actually cost.
And it bombed and it was forgotten for a very long time
until a programmer from the Alamo Draft House founded on eBay for $50.
Just found the like the copy of the film, watched it.
And Draft House basically went to Y.K.
Kim and was like, can we release this?
And we came kind of a cult classic.
There was a riff tracks on it.
But I don't know.
I just think this movie rocks.
It's I think of this movie as sort of the the anti room
where or the room like it's like Tommy Wiseau made the room
from being just like a grating individual and wearing people down.
Y.K. Kim, from what I can tell from the making of this,
was able to do a lot of stuff cheap and get a lot of actors on
because he was just really well liked around Orlando.
So it's it's just such a positive movie.
It's about friendship and family.
It's about awesome fucking.
Well, yeah, it's about an awesome band, Dragon Sound,
who I would legit watch like I would legit go see Dragon Sound.
The music in general is really good.
I don't know if you guys have watched it recently,
but the music is fucking great.
And it's they're just very wholesome and friendly.
And then at the end, it's like a fucking trauma film
where they just murder ninjas.
And it's just so bloody.
And so like the overall.
It's it's just like we're friends.
We're having a great time.
But if you fuck with us, we will tear you in half.
We are Dragon Sound, and that's the movie.
Very close to Bakarubonze.
That's almost a plot of Bakarubonze.
Yeah, I would say the the the the weakness of this movie
is that it's not shot particularly well.
But like the broad strokes is it's fucking great.
The gangs, the gangs are dressed
like they're in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle,
like cartoon universe. Right.
It's just beautiful fucking 80s gangs.
Yes, it just like in my brain, I always mix it up
with the anti-Sidaris movies and which has a similar theme
of just people getting together and saying, like,
what would be the most fun movie we could make? Yeah.
And that's I guess that's what I like about it.
And no decade, no decade was more terrified of gangs
and no decade portrayed gangs as looking
like such good fun in the 80s.
We're terrified of gang violence,
but look at what a good time they're having.
Some of the gang members in this, you remember the guy
who looks like Kid Rock and he has like a belly shirt.
Not really. He's amazing.
Yeah, there was I don't know if I don't know who took the initiative,
but a lot of the the thugs in this
are really making it like making it count.
I mean, like they seem to know 1987.
It's very possible.
They just went on the street and just said, you are perfect
in every way as a human, but also for this movie.
Don't change anything.
Just stand here and say ninjas.
Yeah. Do you have a gang of people dressed exactly like you
who have the same hobbies and you've made a whole persona about it,
maybe baseball or yeah, it's called the bus stop.
Yeah, yeah, I can't recommend this movie enough.
The again, the wholesomeness
of the fact that they they they sing about friendship
and it's all about how they want to do a tour to all the countries they're from
like and teach Taekwondo to like the locals and stuff like that.
Like there's there it's I would love it if instead of a merch table after you saw
show like you'd go to the corner and like they have some mats laid out
and they would teach you some sweet drummers going to teach you how to do a spin kick.
Yeah, they do this for a big kick.
There are so many guitar solos in that movie,
and that's really my only metric for a good movie is how many guitar solos are there.
And I feel like there's if there's not a guitar solo happening right now,
then you can see it in the character's eyes
that there is going to be a guitar solo soon.
You just know there's only there's only two songs.
The friend the Friends Forever song and Against the Ninja.
So they have a song about being best friends and songs about beating up ninjas.
You can look up the soundtrack online if you just want to listen to the songs,
which is how you described the movie.
You're like, this is a movie about best friends fighting ninjas.
Yep. And the the actors wrote the songs.
As far as I can tell, the songs were written by the people who are performing them
in the movie, who are also doing Taekwondo in the movie.
Triple threat. That's what you call it.
Yeah, that's talent.
Yeah, it's just it brings me so much joy.
Also, eighty four minutes can't stress enough how great that is.
Lost are the circumstances under 90.
Yeah, yeah.
What what's an occasion you think this movie would be perfect for?
I mean, this is this is a good getting together with friends.
I recently showed this to Tom Reiman,
who had never seen it before, and he was fucking delighted
because it really it's from being to end.
It's also it's it's it's not on purpose, but it's a hilariously efficient film.
Like when a scene ends, they just cut away.
When they don't need the music anymore, they just fade it out real quick.
They just get right to the point. Yeah.
There's no there's no scene that feels unnecessary,
even the scene where they all just go to the beach to ogle women.
And then nothing happens.
It doesn't matter. It's it's a delightful.
It's it's it's a perfect movie.
I would say this isn't a party movie.
I think this is a watching with a few close friends who hadn't seen to be for
you just have to you just stare at their face and you bring them in
and you form an intense emotional bond that can never be broken.
The they sandwich it.
This movie with just tremendous violence.
And that's also what I love about it is that the very first scene,
the only scene that takes place in Miami
is like a cocaine deal where a motorcycle riding gang of ninjas shows up
and like a guy gets his arm cut off.
A guy gets like ninja started in the face.
Nice.
And it's very fast and violent.
And then we do we like for most of the movie, we follow just the band.
And then the final fight, it suddenly just gets just as violent.
Like heads get chopped off.
And I don't know, there's something about that that's it escalates perfectly.
It starts with this little promise of like,
there's going to be horrific violence in this movie.
And then that keeps people around watching.
And then by the time we get like, it's something like 10 minutes in,
we hear the band play and we know what we're in for at that point.
So if someone gets hit with a throwing star on the face,
like early in the movie, that's that lets the audience know,
oh, no, don't look at your phone during this movie because this is happening.
Exactly.
And then it takes a while to get back to that level of violence.
But in that journey, you you fall in love with a whole other thing.
Like you fall in love.
Like I think what what's kind of amazing about this movie
is that I pay attention to like the dialogue scenes.
And most bad movies, the moment someone's talking for more than a minute,
I get really distracted by that.
But they have they give one of the characters a entire monologue
about how he never met his father and he's crying.
And they just stay on a shot of him and you can't look away from that shit.
They're not great actors.
None of them are good actors, but they seem like nice people.
Do you think it was off script?
Do you think like one of the actors just like said, guys, we got to cut?
No, because it completes.
It completes the arc, though, because he's the character.
He goes to the hospital, the inspoilers and meets his father.
I don't want to spoil Miami.
You think that was off script?
You think that was improv?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was it was like, what are you doing?
Why are you dressed like this?
I'm dying, son.
They're the best.
There is an off script moment, which is that there's two cops in it
and they just got real cops.
And one of the cops was so nervous to be on camera
that he wasn't paying attention to where his gun was pointed.
So in his scene, he points his gun directly at his partner's heart.
It's it's amazing.
You just do the scene and he's
Do you know which Fred Williamson movies?
Because who Fred Williamson?
He was in he's a big black guy from Dusk Till Dawn is like the one we
you almost certainly seen him in.
Anyway, he has this.
He did a lot of exploitation films.
Most of the names I literally can't say out loud without causing a hate crime.
But he would just he had this production company would go to Italy
and just like shoot fucking guerrilla style.
And so all the extras are looking directly into the camera in every single scene.
Oh, yeah. And they're fantastic.
So next time you're looking for some bad movies, just just check out Fred Williamson.
One of the ones without the N word in it.
And I think everyone will have a nice time.
Definitely check it out.
There's a there's part of that in Miami Connection because they have
a group of bikers and they just got a bunch of bikers from Central Florida,
gave them a bunch of beer and they agreed to be filmed for it.
So there's scenes where they're
yeah, and they're just like mooning the camera for the sequence
because they don't give a shit that it's a movie.
And yet it works.
It works perfectly.
This movie just works.
I think Mortal Kombat Annihilation would be better if a few of the extras moved the camera.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think the key to making a good movie is to not really give a shit that it's a movie.
Yeah, I really.
Well, what I think really it's what really shows in this movie is passion.
And it really seems like and, you know, maybe I'm wrong.
But from everything I can tell,
everybody involved in the movie enjoyed making it and was just having a great time
and genuinely seemed to like each other.
And that's why I think it's like the anti the room because it's just birthed from joy.
Yeah, the real struggle.
You can feel the.
Yeah, the once you get to like the fifth sex scene.
Yeah, yeah.
It's it's it's real bummer.
So I I don't know that's a.
I think that's great for this movie.
It's it was beautiful pitch.
It was hard when you asked me.
I you know, I was torn because I was thinking of doing the core,
which I could also talk endlessly about.
I do you liked the core.
Yeah, but I can't really the reason I went with Miami Connection over the core
is the core is more of an ironic enjoyment.
Sure.
Miami Connection is like genuine enjoyment.
I do feel like the core also did at least they committed.
Like they committed to not giving a shit about physics.
Yeah, I signed about any coherent logic.
They were just like, look, this is what's happening.
We're taking a train through the earth.
Like, you know what?
That's just that's it.
It was right off.
It was at the very end of those Emmerich like disaster movies.
The core was like trailing the caboose.
Like us too.
And everybody was like, no, we're good.
The core like consult with the seventh grader.
They're just like, you think this would work?
I'm not calling anyone.
We're we're filming it.
We're just doing it.
Yeah.
I'm right.
Today.
Best part of the core is when Aaron Eckhart has to explain
what's going to happen to the earth to a bunch of scientists
and they do the scene where the scientist has to explain it.
So they did like, you know how they always do the thing where
like an Armageddon, he's like, imagine a fist with a firework
in it in this one.
He took a peach and he holds it up and goes, this is the earth
and then takes an aerosol can and just flames this peach
and everybody just goes, oh, I get it.
Like they needed.
Yeah.
Like they needed that to understand what was going to happen
to the earth.
It's an incredible scene.
It's going to grill us like a peach makes perfect sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like when you flamethrower a peach.
Yeah.
I get it.
I actually like that.
Well, you're talking about how like you ironically love a movie,
but I think that's the appeal of bad movies is that you can love
them in a lot of different ways.
And so my, yeah, my argument is that Miami connection is not
a bad movie.
It is a it is a movie that has poor quality.
It was not done by professionals.
Okay.
But I think it's a movie with heart and that brings joy and is
at least the music is genuinely good.
The music.
If the intent is good.
Yeah.
I always, my thing is if they're trying, if they try the worst
thing in the world to me is a movie that's just like cynical or
like mediocre and like doesn't seem to be giving a shit.
Miami connection, I think is trying really hard to be awesome
and succeeds in a lot of points.
They know they're doing a lot of the like they do a lot of the
Jackie Chan formula.
The I don't want any trouble situation where they keep putting
them in a situation where goons show up and they're like,
we're going to get you.
And they like they, they understand what needs to happen for
this to be a good movie.
They just they didn't.
I think they were a little, you know, limited in their resources.
And so they couldn't fully realize Miami connection.
But they did their goddamn best.
And I don't know.
I think they YK Kim deserves to get.
I don't know at least a billion dollars for a remake.
That seems reasonable.
He made that happen.
Yeah, here's what we do.
We go to we get whatever they're given James Cameron.
We take that away from him and we hand it over to YK Kim and
have him make another Miami connection.
I love it.
Yeah.
He's still making the Avatar movies, huh?
Yeah.
And I can't even imagine a person that gives a shit about that.
I can't even conduct like an imaginary person in my head.
Yeah.
I would argue that Miami connection is a better film than Avatar.
If you had to put the two movies side to side and pick one to
entertain yourself for an evening, you pick Miami connection.
Well, I remember Miami connection.
I've seen.
Yeah.
Could not tell you anything about Avatar.
Yeah.
That is that amazing thing about.
I feel like we've said this before, but it is astonishing how how
how many people saw that movie and how important it was for just
a brief moment of time and no one has ever like had a conversation
about it.
This is the longest I've talked about Avatar.
Yeah, because it's nobody's mentioned it in like 20 years or
however long it's been.
It's such a mediocre film.
Speaking of movies, no, he's mentioned in over 20 years.
I think Brockway's movie.
Yeah, exactly that.
Oh, is it time for equilibrium?
Yeah.
Transition into equilibrium.
Has been roughly 20 years and I think it's it's about time we
revisit equilibrium because I do love it and I don't know it's
it's at least partially ironic.
But it's not entirely ironic.
I get a genuine enjoyment out of how seriously that movie takes
itself.
Equilibrium to sum up.
I guess let me interrupt for a second.
It sort of reminds me of cool as ice by vanilla ice where there
was like this very fleeting idea of what was cool and they're
like, this is cool, but it's not going to be cool for like fucking
eight more minutes.
We've got to like make this movie right now.
And then yeah, the matrix came out right.
It was after the matrix.
But before the third matrix, I think.
Yeah, 2002.
I think it was before we were like, fuck the matrix.
That happened real quick after the third movie.
Yeah, that's true.
So it was still in that he hit in that sweet spot when like you
could still sell a movie by saying this is like the matrix but
and then whatever bullshit and it it couldn't happen.
Yeah, you're right.
It couldn't have happened any earlier because it needed the matrix
to show somebody that this dumb shit could be successful.
Couldn't happen any later because we were all over it by like
2003 and it's just it's so goofy and it's so ridiculous.
And no movie knows that they're goofy and ridiculous less than
equilibrium.
If you laughed at equilibrium, the equilibrium just what do you
not get what we're saying?
You don't get what we're putting down here.
This movie is also the height of the gun kata craze, which I
believe started started with equilibrium and ended with
equilibrium.
Yeah, exactly around there.
Yeah.
Well, if anybody if anybody hasn't seen it equilibrium real
quick, it's just Fahrenheit 451 with like a little bit of
Brave New World only instead of like burning books, it's just
like having emotions.
Yeah, that's it.
That's your twist is like, what if instead of burning books,
they were burning like emotions and that's all Hollywood
needed to be like, Oh, right.
Okay.
And there are trench coats.
Yeah.
Yeah, there are trench coats spinning and twirling trench
coats.
And somebody somebody does something in slow motion.
Everybody's in slow motion.
Everybody.
It's great.
Right.
Here's $800 million or however much money you got.
But he invented gun kata, which is the best part.
It's the best part of equilibrium is the extremely stupid
martial art based on posing really cool with guns.
Yeah.
The guns don't they have like something on the on the guns
that you like that like come out and you're supposed to
like hit each other with it or something.
They do have little tiny nubbins that I never got the point
of the pop out of the pop out of the bottom.
But mostly gun kata is it's about supposedly it's about
statistical analysis that like we've analyzed where the most
common angles people shoot you from and how you can stand
so they can't hit you.
And then the poses that you can do to guarantee you hit them.
And it makes the loftiest promises like you will become 120
percent better killer than what you are.
I believe that's actually a quote in the movie.
Right.
It's sort of the natural progression of traditional martial
arts.
Right.
Like if you look at an old martial arts book they have these
katas where you're like high block cross block.
Turn to the right.
Do a punch.
And what if you did that with guns.
Right.
Like it feels like where was this movie before like someone had
to have come up with that with swords and clubs and whatever
throwing stars.
But I mean there were other sword katas and all that stuff there
for weapons.
This guy was just the first to go what if you held guns and did
that.
Right.
It was like well if you were holding guns you wouldn't need
to do that.
No but what if what if you did it anyway.
And I love how there's so little application of it.
Right.
Other than just like oh it's a choreographed gunfight but it's
like that's already what a gunfight in a movie is.
So there's little things like he'll put the clip on the ground
it before the gunfight and then as the gunfights going he'll
like slam his gun onto the floor to like put the clip in.
Right.
And you just just put the clip in.
At the beginning.
Sure.
Like there's no need.
But it feels like that's the only the only application of this
thing is to just really hammer home that this guy is he
planned this choreography before the bad guy showed up.
Right.
And you have to generally inconvenience yourself.
Yeah it's all it's very inconvenient to everybody involved.
It's just a lot of posing awkwardly a lot of stretching like
light stretching but with guns which is why it makes me so
happy that Kurt Wimmer invented it.
It wasn't you know something from the movie.
I found an interview with him where he talks about how he
invented it in his backyard and that just.
When he was seven.
No like before he was making the movie it makes me so happy to
picture it.
Yeah.
Like all of his neighbors try not like what the fuck is he
doing.
Because if you watch them practicing their practice scenes
in the movie of like these elite warriors practicing
guncotta without you know actually killing.
Yeah.
They don't have fake guns.
They make gunfingers.
They make pistol fingers.
Like.
They make pistol fingers while they're doing it.
So you know Kurt Wimmer was in his backyard making pistol
fingers.
I hope because the alternative is he's swinging guns around
in his backyard.
Yeah.
You would hope he's in like 10 feet of his neighbors.
And then he saw that the actors do it and he says oh
thank god I was worried I'd looked fucking lame when I did
this in my backyard.
This looks awesome.
Yeah.
He was so proud of it.
He came to the stunt coordinator for the movie and
demanded like they work together.
And so he's credited as like hybrid style.
Like the guncotta they do in equilibrium is a hybrid
between Kurt Wimmer's original vision and the stunt
choreographer.
And he has a story of he has this quote here.
I came to him with the guncotta and I remember I
remember that I demonstrated to him the guncotta.
And I said this is how you do it.
This is what I want to do and this is how it works.
And everybody looked at me like I was really fucking
crazy and I felt really silly doing it.
But I have to say I didn't show it.
Wow.
You know what you know how like ballsy it is to
invent a martial art show it to a guy who probably
really knows the martial arts.
It would be like this is how it works.
It's like inventing a language where it's like this
better be really good because we already have too
many of these.
So like this better bring something to the table.
Otherwise no we're not going to use it.
And guncotta is the most useless martial art.
You know I have a lot of videos that it's just
bikini ladies shooting guns and they don't really
do anything.
They just like shoot the gun at a target sometimes
it's not even on the screen.
Yeah it could be battle voking the whole time.
They did guncotta I feel like that would be better
in every direction.
Yeah bikini guncotta is where you should have taken
that card.
It's my favorite that he invented that but I think
guncotta is clearly.
I'm saying a porno parody of this could be really good.
Maybe not really good but better.
20 years later when nobody remembers it.
That's my pitch.
Oh of equilibrium.
Right.
What was the name?
No just guncotta.
Oh.
It would be.
It would be ecoclibrium.
Yeah guncotta.
Equilibricum.
Equilibricum.
Equilibricum.
Equilibricum.
Equilibricum.
That's it.
That's it.
Oh I got clicked again.
It's a two-click podcast for me.
Yeah.
Well like clearly everybody's favorite part of this
movie is how dumb guncotta is.
And my favorite part of the making of it is how
just in earnest Kurt Wimmer was about it.
About how he made it up in his backyard and he
showed everybody like a proud second reader.
There's also.
It's just it makes my life.
In the same way there was an influx of we're doing
the matrix.
There's that influx of we're going to do dystopian
worlds.
And that is they get so funny.
Like I do remember in this one don't they like
like light the Mona Lisa on fire.
Like you're not supposed to have like art.
Yeah they said it they had somebody like test it
like it was cocaine.
Like he comes out and he takes a little scratch.
It's real.
Yeah.
And then it's just a real Mona Lisa.
Also it wasn't because it's like a huge on the
Mona Lisa is tiny which anybody could look that
up.
Even in 2002 you could look that up.
You could google it.
Or I guess.
I'll tell you.
Right.
Yeah.
It's so funny because he made this he made this
movie to be about art.
Like it was about he has this whole long quote
that I'm not going to get into the whole thing.
I just sum it up.
Kurt Wimmer went to art school and he got really
mad because everybody there had said that they
were an artist and they could make art.
He was like not only famous people from history
books make art and after you do it good enough
people call you an artist and everybody that's
what he believed.
Is that what he still believes.
This movie every single person that goes to
art school is that self important and they are
trained to think stupid shit like that because
there's an entire ecosystem of ideas that clash
where they're like oh everything is art.
You could put a snow shovel up against the wall
and that's art versus someone who's like no no
no art has to be accepted by the masses as art
and have years and years.
So that is it shows that he's kind of weak willed
that he got out of art school still thinking
shit like that because yeah I'm saying I've
heard that almost word for word 10 different
times.
He talks about how he had an open contempt for
art for years after that because these artists
called themselves artists and they didn't wait
for history to do it but then he started writing
the Thomas Crown affair and to do that he had
to visit a lot of museums for research and stuff
and his exact quote is I went to a lot of
museums and I was just blown away by how good
some of the stuff in there was.
That dig up.
That dig up can really paint.
Have you seen Kurt Weber?
You should see him.
He looks like a guy that would say this he was
born in Hawaii he's just this utter he's a
himbo he's just a beautiful idiot and he
means so well.
Oh my god I'm looking at a picture.
He means so well and like these are the deep
thoughts that guy would have and so he made
this movie to be like to try to tell the
world everybody can like art.
Did you know that?
Did you know that everybody even you could
like you could go to a museum and look at
art.
Man I hate to like it so he's just a white
guy with money right that's what I'm seeing
here.
He's a beautiful white idiot with money from
Hawaii.
Yeah he white guide his way to the top
because he hasn't had to think like
critically a day in his life and he's made
several movies here.
Why would he think critically?
After the critics tore apart this movie
because of course they tore apart this
movie.
He responded in an interview why would I
make a movie for someone I wouldn't want
to hang out with?
Have you ever met a critic you wanted to
party with?
It's fair.
I haven't met a critic I wanted to party
with.
So this guy is I'm looking at the things
he's written he also wrote salt he also
wrote the total recall and point break
remakes.
So a lot of things are yeah a lot of
things are coming together here of like
you ever find a writer like this and then
you're like oh this is what's wrong with
Hollywood.
It's like it's like six people you can
like boil it down.
Yeah this guy is a real and then of
course he wrote and directed ultraviolet
another one of my favorites.
Oh god it's so now there's no earnest
goodness.
I believe there is earnest goodness in
equilibrium because it's because it's
this beautiful idiot having what he
thinks is his one good idea and he's
very earnestly trying to communicate
that to you that like art is okay art is
alright.
That's what this movie with gun caught
and shooting everything was about was
that art's alright dude there's some good
stuff.
Don't destroy painting.
Enjoy paintings.
And like a dumb asshole.
I like that he got to make a movie about
the one important realization he had in
his life and it just I don't know.
Art is good.
Yeah just him going to a museum and
being like wow these painters can really
have you seen museums they got some good
stuff in there.
Meaning to check it out.
Let me close this out with this is an
old interview so clearly it has not come
to pass but the IGN asked him what's one
project you've always wanted to do but
just aren't able to and he said I have
a prohibitively big budgeted film about
dolphins I'd like to do one day.
Oh I'd like him to do that too.
I want that movie so badly.
I don't know what it is.
I mean it would just be CG right?
Does he need to train the dolphins?
It has to be live action dolphins?
Prohibitively big budgeted film about dolphins.
He just needs to kill a lot of dolphins I
imagine.
Those are expensive permits.
Just like horses back in cowboy movies.
Just going to have like a truck to haul
him away.
One final thing about this movie or one
more thing is this is a Christian Bale
film and like I always forget this about
Christian Bale.
Have you noticed that he has range just
in playing sociopaths?
Like he can play like six different types
of sociopaths of emotionless characters.
I mean it's generally what he plays is
very serious people but this is yet
another like he's supposed to have no
emotions and it's right in the sweet
spot it's after American Psycho right
but it's before Batman where he's just
sort of like he's doing shit like this
in Rain of Fire.
Rain of Fire?
Yeah.
None of us picked Rain of Fire?
Oh shit I should have brought Rain of Fire.
Well that's a good movie guys.
That's just a good movie.
That's an entire movie based around a dumb idea.
I guess that's a lot like equilibrium in
that way where someone's like what if you
were skydiving and had to fight a dragon
they're like all right I think I can
make I think I can create an entire
world with that one stupid thing you just
said makes sense yeah and they didn't
they didn't quite get there but but
that's what they tried.
David have you seen the movie I brought
do you know what movie I'm bringing?
Tracks?
Yeah have you watched Tracks?
I watched it today for the first time.
So tell me your first impressions of Tracks.
Well motherfucker looks like Buffalo Bill.
And I he's the the first scene really
you know it really grabs you.
This is the this is I assume 80s mid 80s
I'm guessing like it's like that real
Reagan shit and like real like right it
this is this is death wish but apparently
not racist because they like make a note
that he's multi he's killing like every
every race.
If you kill one from every race specifically
that is the definition of not racist.
And you get a free milkshake.
But they immediately they immediately
established that it's a taking scum off
the streets guns are great movie by the
first scene where he skateboards into a
building into a pet shop.
Yeah that sounds right where a man with
struggling with mental health issues
puts down his gun and he hands him his
gun back so he can kill him.
Yep.
And the guy commits suicide by tracks.
Suicide by tracks.
Suicide by tracks.
Suicide by tracks.
He's an ex cop according to the box
but it doesn't really make that clear
in the movie in the movie.
He's a town tamer.
I know if you got a problem if you got
some problems with some maniacs.
Right.
You send them to tracks.
Yeah.
If you got a problem maniacs call tracks.
Yeah.
Let me read the back of the box here.
It says tracks is a mercenary ex cop
who knows nothing about the law but
everything about justice.
He's tried El Salvador Lebanon Afghanistan
but something keeps drawing him home.
The smell of fresh baked cookies tracks
dreams of starting his own cookie business
but faces two problems.
He can't raise the money and he's the
world's worst cookie maker.
To raise the cash he returns to the one
thing he does know about.
Gang busting for fun and profit.
Taking on Capone clone Aldo Pellucci
almost single-handedly demolishing
an empire built on drug running,
murder and prostitution.
The cookies on the other hand aren't
going so well.
So it's a vehicle for shadow students.
The scene where it makes the cookies
it looks like fucking silent hell.
Yeah.
Like it's, I've never seen, like he
lights the kitchen on fire.
Yeah.
It's just completely covered in like
glop.
Yeah.
And then it's, he moves to the woods
and the movie, I don't think makes it
clear why but I think he's like in
hiding from the bad, he doesn't want
the bad guys to know where he is.
Right.
It's like he's like camping base and
so he continues making cookies like
over and over on fire which doesn't
help and they're like anti-freeze
and like dog poop cookies.
Like these like really normal headed
joke cookies.
Like what's in this one?
Chili and fish.
Right.
Right.
But he's also, I guess the tone is
very strange in this movie because
he's a very carefree man but he
murders many, many people for
almost nothing.
He's a serial killer.
Yeah.
And he's also got like a sadist streak
so he, it seems like he'll give
his cookie to someone and be like
eat the cookie knowing or like
communicating very clearly that if
you don't eat this cookie I will
fucking kill you.
And there's also
no act too.
Like he's never in any trouble.
Like it's just, he's an invincible
guy.
Nothing bothers him.
Bullets can't hit him.
Yeah.
And then he just kind of kills
everybody.
And that's, that's the, his
character.
Yeah.
Is that case.
It was supposed to be a parody but
I don't think they told anybody like
when they started filming.
Right.
This is a parody.
So they played, everybody played it
and shot it like it was supposed to
be straight.
But it's written clearly as a
parody.
Maybe.
It's the weirdest goddamn vibe.
It's like, it's like a maniac has
memorized a list of extremely good
jokes and has no idea what makes them
funny.
It, it reminds me.
And it's just reading to the, them
to you with like a knife at your
throat.
It reminds me of Hulk Hogan movie
where like since Hulk has to be
like cool in every scene then
there's no like third act.
Right.
Nothing, there's nothing at stake
because he handles everything that
happens.
Right.
Just like reality.
Like the holster is, he speaks
French.
He's.
I just, yeah.
You just watch No Holds Bard.
No, well I was going to.
He can identify Dookie.
Oh yeah.
He can identify Dookie.
Have you watched Santa with
Muscles?
Ah, been a long time but yes.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
That and No Holds Bard man.
That's, that's fucking dream team
right there.
Mr. Nanny.
Yeah.
There's a lot of.
I also watched the Timothy
Olfin Hitman movie and it has the
same problem as Tracks where it's
just a series of scenes.
Right.
Where he just kills people.
Yeah.
He's never in any trouble.
It's pornography, right?
Like it's, it's, we just have him
kill street scum.
Yeah.
And the other thing about Tracks is
he'll like, he'll go into a bar
and just be like, hey everybody
get out of here or I'll kill you.
If you're here tomorrow, I'll kill you.
And like, they're just fucking having
a nice night like.
A bar is a legal business, Tracks.
Yeah.
What do you think you're protecting?
No one's doing anything illegal.
There.
They seem sad.
I mean, they're dirt bags.
Don't get me wrong.
They're not great people but
death penalty seems a bit much.
The movie starts with him going to
like the chief of police and being
like, I'm going to go on a killing
spree and then charge you money.
Yeah.
Ten thousand dollars a week.
Yeah.
So I can.
So I could fund my cookie business.
Yeah.
Like he is, he should, they should
arrest him right there.
Because he's literally saying,
I'm going to go out into the street
and kill people.
For money.
Yep.
Unless you, yeah, he might as well
say, unless you pay me.
Right.
The money.
It's the same threat.
And I don't know, I feel like they
could at least do a, hold them
for a little while.
The love interest in this film is
Priscilla Barnes.
And Shadow Stevens is very like
passively handsome in a, I guess,
like your grandmother would think he's
handsome.
Like, I think in this movie he's
probably in his 30s.
It's a good looking piece of wood.
Sure.
In the way that a wood worker
appreciates a piece of wood.
That's how he's handsome.
Right.
Not like a super desirable man, I
would say, but like handsome.
And so Priscilla Barnes didn't have
zero chemistry.
And she, more than any other actor in
the movie seems to have no idea what
she's going for.
So I think she's trying to be funny,
but that's not her comfort zone.
And God, I don't even know how to
describe their sex scenes where she's
like kind of moaning and screaming
and seems troubled by it.
And I remember I met her at Comic Con
and I was very excited to talk to her
because I love tracks.
And she fucking pretended she'd
never heard of it.
Did she have any choice?
What can she say?
I don't know what the fuck was going
on with that movie.
Can you explain that movie to me?
What are you talking about?
I mean, that is the correct response,
right?
If someone approaches her and starts
talking about tracks, like I would
I would pretend to not speak English
or something.
Do you want to end some of tracks?
You don't want to talk to fans of
tracks.
That's us.
That's us.
So when she saw me in the back seat
of her car later that night and she
was not happy about it, but she did
eventually admit that she was in
tracks.
And then the card catalog exploded.
Yeah.
Her glove box just started shooting
out files.
What?
That's what happens in the sexy.
Oh, that's right.
When he penetrates her, all of the
card catalogs in the library start
shooting up cards.
Yeah, it's like about maniac logic.
It's so insane.
About two thirds into the movie, it
just kind of turns into a cartoon,
but not like an American cartoon.
Just like things are happening.
And I'll give you a good example.
When Robert Davi shows up and he
threatens to kill him and tracks
doesn't care because nothing can kill
tracks and he gives him a cookie and
Robert Davi is like, what's in this
cookie and tracks is like chili cone
carne and, you know, a Velveeta or
whatever the fuck.
And he's like, huh, whatever.
And he takes a little nibble and then
later the car explodes and there's this
moment when you're watching it with
thinking, understand what happens.
But I'm 80% sure that he just farted
in the car and the chili cookies
caused such impossible farts that it
explodes the entire car.
Probably.
But yeah, you saw that.
That's what happened.
He lights a cigar.
It goes off.
He dies to a fart.
And there's no showdown.
There's no anything.
The bad guy just shows up at the
campsite and is like, hey, you want
to hang out?
No, get out of here.
And then he farts himself to death
in a car.
That was the main bad guy.
That's the end of the movie.
That's it.
Yeah.
That was it.
And then a famous Amos shows up.
Tracks.
And does not like tracks as cookies.
His character arc is not that he learns
how to make cookies.
It's that everyone is so appreciative
of him murdering everyone in the town
that they just sort of tolerate his
cookies and pretend to enjoy them.
The thing is, it's not that he's bad
at making cookies.
It's that he's decided that he is
not going to make cookies the way
he likes making cookies.
I mean, it's a combination of both.
He's making them out of spite.
He's burning those cookies.
It's like being like, I want to be,
I want to draw portraits for a living.
And someone's like, yeah, but every
portrait you draw is just a dick.
You go to draw their face and then
you draw a dick.
And they're like, well, I don't care.
And this is the career I want.
Like he's not trying.
He's purposefully sabotaging his
cookie career.
That's very fair.
Until people are just so scared of
him that they're like, yeah, the cookies
are great, man.
Yeah.
I mean, like anybody can call
themselves an artist.
That's not how that works.
Exactly.
That's not how that works.
History has to tell you you're an artist.
Yes.
You got to be in a museum.
Yeah.
Trax is one of those movies when
you show it to someone for the first
time that they just can't believe
they never saw it.
It's so entertaining in a strange
way.
It's sort of like an army of darkness
where there's sort of never a moment
that isn't entertaining or silly or
weird, but with a character with no
flaws and a script with many flaws.
And so you're just constantly enjoying
something they were trying to do and
something they totally fucked up while
just being just marveling at the
choices they made.
And anyway, wall to wall
entertainment.
We recently showed this in our
Discord and you could like see
people's lives being changed as
they're talking about it.
It's become very like legendary in
the 1900 hot dog community.
We talk about it a lot and for good
reason.
They have started a rolling storm of
Trax where just somebody new will
come in and be like, what's Trax?
And then they'll make them watch it.
Right.
And then they'll be just like, what
the fuck?
And somebody will be like, what the
fuck?
I'll be like, I just watched Trax.
What's Trax?
And then somebody else has to watch
it.
It's changing lives.
It's out there.
I just don't understand how there's
still people alive that haven't seen
Trax.
There's people listening right now
who probably haven't seen Trax and
they just find it.
It's got to be like on Vimeo.
It's probably on YouTube.
Just Google for Trax.
It is on YouTube.
I don't think anybody gives a shit
about the copyright to enforce it.
Right.
So.
Trax with two X's.
Yeah.
Go watch Trax.
Stop listening to this.
I'm looking at the screenwriter of
this.
Yeah, he did.
Red Dawn and Running Scared.
I'm seeing him credited for time
cop.
That's not right.
No.
That's not right.
He's right here with time cop.
See that.
I can see that.
It doesn't make any sense though.
Last I checked he didn't write time
cop.
But given the nature of time cop.
His Wikipedia, they have him for
fucking time cop.
What's the date on that?
Is it 2038?
Was the change made on 2038?
I don't know.
I don't know.
His Wikipedia is also saying that
he was killed and they haven't
solved his murder.
Holy shit.
And at least one person that says
it's the result of a government
conspiracy.
I'm sorry to bring down the podcast,
but Gary D.
Moore, writer of.
I don't know what.
Yeah, his body was discovered July
9th.
Hey, that's my birthday.
And the Mojave Desert canal having
disappeared a year earlier.
Circumstances of his death are still
under investigation.
Oh my God.
He tracks his own Wikipedia page.
This is that incredible discovery.
I'm so glad this is happening in real
time.
Yeah, we have to realize to complete
this arc.
We have to solve this murder.
I'm 100% going to solve this murder.
That's what our site is now.
Wow.
This is wild detectives.
Holy shit.
Jesus, he was found.
Yeah, he was found in a fucking
aqueduct deck dead.
His gun was missing.
And the way the car was there,
they determined he couldn't have
crashed and they determined that it
must have been a homicide.
My God.
Was there any fart?
Tracks.
I don't see any fart residue,
at least not in this Wikipedia.
And apparently also must have been
one of the writers of time cop.
I don't.
That's the least believable part of
this whole thing because I could have
sworn time cop had a very specific
group or specific writer.
Well, that is how you would kill
somebody if they misbehaved in the
past.
Yeah.
You would make it exactly like that
and then you would erase them from the
time cop credits page.
Yeah, that's true.
Holy shit.
Solved it.
I really, I look forward to this being
what we do on the podcast now is a
our true crime series on the murder
of the tracks writer.
1,900 hot dog.
Solve it.
He doesn't get on this.
Solve this murder.
Detective agency.
Oh, you know what it is.
It's 1,900 hot dog nights.
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