The Dogg Zzone by 1900HOTDOG - Dogg Zzone 9000 - Episode 36, Conan the Podcast: Part 1
Episode Date: August 18, 2021Brockway and Seanbaby continue their proud tradition of making smart young women watch dumb old movies for men. This time it's Lydia Bugg vs. the entire Conan trilogy! Part 1, Conan the Barbarian, las...hed her sensibilities to the wheel and then threw her understanding to the dogs. What is best in life?
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I am your mystical narrator
Robert Brockway
And with me is that noble barbarian
Sean baby
I take it back
I don't think we should do it
No, I love it
Accompanied as always
By Archer and Thief
Lydia Bogg
Hello, thank you
Mystical hello
This is the day of high adventure
Alright, so it turns out I don't have a Mako impression
I really thought I had that effect
I thought it was pretty good
Totally fine
Let's be a crazy show
If we weren't going to talk about Conan
That would be just the weirdest fucking introduction
Before we get into just a blood rage here
Lydia, do you want to plug anything?
What do you got going on? Where can we find more of you?
Oh, you can find me on Twitter at Unolidia
Or I will be in the next
Trailer Park Boys comic book
Which is coming out in September
I think it's like September 4th, I don't know
You can go to trailerparkcomics.com
You can pre-order it and I'll be in that
Awesome, you're in the first one and the second one
Are they going to get you in on the third?
Do you not know that yet?
I don't know yet, but I am pitching for the third
Right, well if everybody goes out and fucking buys it
I might be in the third
Yeah, so everybody fucking buy it
So I can get in the third book, please
And I don't know, write the publisher and say
I bought it because of Lydia Bogg, I guess
I don't know how that works
Let's start a mail in campaign
Everybody loves those
They will love you for that
Yeah, definitely fire me
Mail in
Live Boggs for more Lydia Bogg
Send them a voicemail of you doing a Mako impersonation
Everybody loves that
This is a podcast where we try to get Lydia fired
From one of her other jobs
More Lydia for us
That's exactly it, that's the plan
Alright, so
Conan the Barbarian is one of my favorite movies
It is completely ridiculous
On every level
And if you think you can predict
What kind of ridiculous it's going to be
You're totally wrong
It's once barely a movie
And five movies, and I love it so much
And it turns out
Lydia has never seen Conan
What a treat this must have been
Never seen Conan
Yeah
Let's get your thoughts on it
Your high level thoughts on the movie
Right off the bat
This will be controversial
But I thought there were some problems with it
Really
Really
Just some small things
I have a lot of questions about
There were scenes that I thought
Surely this will go somewhere
And it never came back
It was just over
But I did like what you like about it
And no movie has ever
Surprised me more
I can definitely say that
There were a hundred times where I was like
I know what's going to happen next
And it would somehow be
So far away from what I thought was going to happen
You can never predict
Conan's next action
As a character
And it turns out also in the movie
He's a force of chaos
And this is his story
This is his story
That's getting worse
His was a tale of sorrow
Damn it
That's such a good Mako impression
How are you not doing it at the start?
I'm 11% barbarian
He's really the
Was Mako a barbarian?
No, he was a barbarian wizard
Even the barbarians have nerds
And he's like a barbarian nerd
It's like a Star Wars thing
I can speak the languages of
As a barbarian I speak the languages
As a barbarian
So I speak Desert Wizard
And Archer Thief
Steppe Dork
I speak Steppe Dork
Yeah, that checks out
Yeah
I love Conan the Barbarian
Right from the start
I'm talking right from the start
It opens with a quote by
Nietzsche
And I just
Have always
Loved imagining
Taking a time machine back
To Nietzsche
And showing him Conan the Barbarian
And being like
This is what you were talking about, right?
Whatever kill you doesn't make you stronger
You met Conan the Barbarian, right?
See, I only know that is like a Britney Spears lyric
So I was like, oh, that's where Britney
Britney and Conan
The connection is made through Nietzsche
Is what I've always been saying
She got it by being just
A huge fan of Nietzsche
Or a huge fan of Conan
Maybe she's a Conan person
So, Liddy, did you solve the riddle of steel?
When you meet
Crom in the afterlife
Are you prepared
To answer the riddle of steel?
Oh, no, I think Crom's definitely going to kick my ass
I don't
I've not touched much steel
I've never, I don't think held a sword
He probably wouldn't like that
See, I'm
Kind of an entry-level Conan nerd
But I always thought that the Nietzsche quote
Was the answer to the riddle of steel
That which does not kill us makes us stronger
Is a reference to how
The will of man must be tempered
Oh, it's like a Jeopardy situation
So they open by giving us the answer
And then they pose the question
But I think it's a red herring
And in fact
The real riddle of steel is
You're supposed to kill Crom
Like you kill Crom
And either you fail
Or succeed
So you either become Crom
Or it's like a fake Crom that he set up
Just so you could kill it and he's like
Okay, you can come to Valhalla
Or nobody ever kills Crom
And there's just nobody in Valhalla
Everyone is just dead
They're all trying to kill Crom
And it's just real lonely
I wish I hadn't fucking gone to Valhalla
See, I thought the riddle of steel
Was more metaphorical
Like your life is the answer to the riddle
And Crom is like
Watching if you live your life by
Like the rule of steel, which Conan obviously was
So it was like I don't get why he's stressed
About meeting his god
It seems like he's doing a lot of killing people with that sword
Yeah, he really is
A good servant of Crom
Who gives you the strength to kill your enemies
And basically nothing else
Like Crom is the dickest of all the gods
But
But
He does
Listen one time
And a very important time
And that's more than our god ever does, right?
That's true
Interface Jesus Christ
I work with Crom now
If Crom is gonna show up for me one time
That's 100% more than any other god
So, yeah
I'm a Crom, I
Crom, I'm a Crom, Crom you know
Crom me, Crom you know
I'm not much of like a theologian
But like in real life
But I do like the moments in movies when
One of the characters who's religious
Like looks at their god and is like
Okay, if you don't help me here, fuck you god
Like there's a moment
And obviously in Conan it's great
Do you remember Major League
When Pedro Serrano is like
If you could not help me hit the curveball
I say fuck you Jobu
And then he like cranks the curveball
Like that's a great moment
It's a great film
Gotta be a callback to Conan
Yeah, that's a Conan reference
Just Britney Spears
Just came directly from Conan the Barbarian
Yeah
I think it might have actually been Kelly Clarkson
There's a song, what's that song
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger
I think it's Kelly Clarkson
The people that listen to our podcast
The crossover between
People who like hotdog and Britney Spears
Those people which is probably like about two of them
Was this a trap?
Like we just went along with it
And you're like ha ha fools
You didn't realize that it was actually Kelly Clarkson
It's a popular pop song
That like the chorus is
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger
I don't know what gorgeous splontered white lady
Sings it but
It's a thing
Definitely a Conan reference
Whoever it is loves Nietzsche
Has built their entire career
On his works
Well, I've created
A secretly incredibly fascinating series
Of Conan facts
That
If Alex Schmidt was here
He would present them like this
And he would present a song about stats
Sent in by a reader
And this one has been sent in by
Beef Load
And it's
Like I stand at a hill I'll be gone
When the morning comes
When the night is over
I'll be gone gone gone
Like I stand at a hill
All right, Jamie, I want to keep
All 11 minutes of that
And when you bring in the guitar
Like just get fucking warbly with it
I want it to sound like a chopper engine
And now on to the facts
1932
That was the year
Conan the Barbarian was created
By Robert E. Howard
A bodybuilder and boxer
So his nickname was
Two-Gun Bob
And
He
Died tragically of suicide at age 30
1900 hot dog
Okay, we gotta stop
Ending podcast though
Ending podcast
On the suicide silence
Joke works once
So these are some more
Exciting facts. 1950
The year the first Conan novel was written
Now
Could you make a guess, Lydia, on how many
Conan
Comic books there were?
Oh, I'm going to guess it's a lot
Because even though I didn't know the movie
Like I knew of Conan as a character
Even though it's something I would never ever read
Which means it's probably like pretty
Pretty around if I've heard of it
So I'm going to guess
I don't know, like
Like 150
That's not too bad a guess
The first
Conan and the Barbarian series ran for 275
Issues
There were 16 different Conan series
Those are series that went at least 10 issues
And then there was 71 other
Conan miniseries or one shots
So
He's been in 87 comic book titles
That feels right because
He seems very 80s, like he was
Really big in the 80s, right?
Well 50s is when the novels
Started coming out
And of course 30s is when he was big in
Short story comics
And so I mean he's been around for almost
100 years now
That's crazy
What's very appealing
About this character to everyone
Just that he's beefy and wears like a tiny
Little loincloth I guess
Here's what I think is the best about
Conan is he's
Not quite a good guy
He generally stumbles his way
Into heroism
But for the most part he's just kind of
A drunk
Out of control like
Just suck her to his own it
Like he'll go into a bar get fucking completely trashed
Make sweet love
Almost all the trouble he runs into
Is his own doing like he'll just sort of wake up
Somewhere and like oh I got drugged
Or no I just drank too much
And like there's just an appeal to a character
That just doesn't say no to shit
And kicks total ass
I think that's why I like Conan
He's just a pure agent of chaos
Happens and he's along for that ride
And repercussions are
Just a word people keep
Saying to him the next day
What is that word
You speak like a foul
Wizard
Like almost every time
He gets in trouble throughout the series
But also certainly in this movie
It's because he got like really drunk
Or he was too horny like it's
That they just capture him because he passes out
Okay that is funny
That should have been a big fight scene
But they're just like no
And then they bring him before the king all hung over
I'm like that's
He got him fight back he's just like oh god
I feel terrible
The producer
Dino De Laurentiis
Really didn't like that
Like he wanted that removed from the movie
But then they fought to keep it
The director and Oliver Stone was the writer
I don't think he was involved at that point
Like it's a very Conan thing to do
It's just to get so fucking hammered
That you wake up in prison
I do have one more fact
I want you to try to guess this one
$230,000
What do you think that reference is
The amount of money
That somebody bought Conan the character for
Oil budget on the movie
But oil budget
That cannot be the budget of the movie
It can't be that cheap
No the movie was
$19,000,000 in 1982 money
$230,000
Straight up butter oil
It's actually
What they paid Arnold Schwarzenegger
That was his fee for being a Conan
For horse training and fight training
And bodybuilding and voice coaching
And they're like alright give the principal
Actor of this huge
Mega film
$230,000
I hope he got royalties
I'm sure he did on the ensuing
Movie
We don't need to worry about Arnold Schwarzenegger's money
I'm just saying that's a small amount of money
I hope he's doing alright
Does anybody know how he's doing
They let him be a governor after this
That blew my mind
I think
If this blew your mind
The rest of Arnold Schwarzenegger's life
The rest of his life was
Basically just Conan
That's also who Arnold Schwarzenegger was
At least as a young man
You have to understand to me
In the 90's
He was kindergarten cop
And junior
And he was the big sweet guy
You can see that guy
Jingle all the way
That guy
And I'm like
This does not seem like Republicans
Would be very on board with this guy
And into a fire as he has sex with her
You don't like both things like that
Yeah
Never mind
You figured it out
You solved the riddle of steel
I also read
That each of the broad swords used by Conan
Costs $10,000 to make
Estimated cost
Because they had to make these beautiful swords
And then fuck them up
So if they made 23 swords
That's Arnold's entire paycheck
More on swords
That's the point I was making
That's the riddle of steel
It all leads back
It did not look like a $10,000 sword
I think they could have done fine with plastic
Honestly
I think we would have noticed plastic
But yeah, $10,000 seems way
If someone said, hey I can make you a sword
But it's gonna cost $10,000
So that would be eight times more than you'd expect
You'd be like, what the fuck
Yeah, it's better like
Now somebody better be handing these down to their children
To like, using the upcoming
Water Wars
What a terrible weapon
That'd be in the water wars
Like swimming around with this
80 pound broad sword
Well it's not the
Yeah okay, it's swimming, it's water
All you have to do
Is shove someone off the boat
And their sword that is strapped to their back
Will be their end
Alright, well we've made it to
The quote that opens
Conan the Barbarian
We made it, we made it to the quote that opens
I don't think we talked about any childhood at all
I think this is entirely
Appropriate for this movie
That will ramble for a long time
On nothing
And then at other times it's just
Pedal to the floor
Taking you somewhere
And you have no idea where
But you know it's on fire
Real quick
The start of this movie
Okay
So Conan as a child
His dad explains to him the whole nature
Of the riddle of the steel
And almost immediately
His peaceful life is destroyed
When raiders come to his village
And two of them look
Like guys out of Spinal Tap
And then there's James Earl Jones
Who is just absolutely beautiful
Even with his long helmet hair
It's just the weirdest haircut
Anybody has ever seen in their life
And his green contacts
The bangs
Such bad bangs
He totally cut his own bangs that morning
And he just
He corners Conan's mom
And he just like
Stares at her until I think
She falls in love with him
I couldn't figure out what that was
She lowered her sword
I thought she was like oh he's not gonna kill me
And I thought that too
He looks at her with the biggest puppy dog eyes
Like I just need your love baby
And he does it for so long
In the movie just I swear to god
I don't know how long it actually is
It feels like 20 minutes of just staring
At her until she
Until she lowers her sword and he cuts her head off
And that's how they choose
To spend their wildly erratic time
Yeah
And he cuts her head off
With her husband's sword
The man they just killed
Like they made a big show
Of looking at this sword
And they sort of mentioned later
That that's what they're here for
That these guys are raiding villages to get their steel
But in the voiceover
Mako's like oh no one knows why the fuck they did this
And then he tells me later
Yes that drove me nuts
I was like we do now
Well Mako also
He explains sometime in there like
I'm your narrator and like there's a reason
There's a story and then that's not true
Like ever
Because test audiences had no idea
What was happening
Because I met him so it could have been anybody
Like he wasn't really pivotal
I mean there was one scene
Which maybe he's pivotal but
Hopefully we'll get to that
Well he also too said he never saw those guys again
And then he did
Very much for the rest of the movie
You've seen them multiple times
It's implied that Mako is just kind of high
All the time
Oh okay
So I think that's what's going on
With the narration
But they uh
They take young Konan
And they bring him to
A wheel in the middle of the desert
And then they strap him and all the other children
To this wheel and have them turn it
And my favorite part of this
Is that there is nothing
There's nothing around
The wheel is not connected to anything
Buildings
There's just a big wheel
That all the kids have to turn for no purpose
Yeah whatever grain they're milling
Is it's not going anywhere
It's not being stored
It's just nothing mill
Nobody does anything but
It's not just like to be cruel and torture them
Because they assign a single guard
So this huge desert
And they have several shots where you can see off to forever
That there's nothing
This guy has to go live in the middle of the desert
To turn a wheel
I'm not sure which one's life is more pointless
At that point
Like is this torture for the guard too
Why keep those kids alive
It makes no sense at all
It makes no sense at all
Like I was like oh I get it this is their prison
But then also why put them in prison
They killed literally everyone else
So
I think it was
Because they flash forward
And then all of a sudden he's the adult Konan
His whole life turning a wheel
And doing nothing else
Which is my favorite origin story
For a hero ever
It's just wheel
It's wheel, look I was baby
And now wheel
And here I am
Nobody taught me like language really
I don't really know anything
I know how to wheel
Maybe they were going to sell an exercise
Program based on that
Later
It's almost kind of true because a guy shows up
To buy Konan
And put him in the fighting pits
Because he's the last one that survived
So I guess he must be the strongest
That could be like this whole training program
If there's a point to it like that's the only point
Is that this is like a training program
To create a fighter
But I would argue even though it worked in the movie
You never taught him how to fight
Like they even
They even showed that
He has no idea what's going on
Yeah he had they showed
They did such a good job of showing
Like he is a wheel idiot at this point
Who has learned nothing but wheel
And he doesn't know about attacking
Or other people they unchain
A man with sharpened teeth in front of him
And he stands there like you're going to help me push a wheel
It's cool I love wheel
Do you like wheel?
He starts off by pushing it like he's a wheel
He's like this is all I can do is push
Right this is my attack
He's just so thrown when the guy attacks him
Because he lets him bite him forever
For like again the movie just
Let's the scene go on for like
Feels like 10 minutes of a guy
Biting a wheel idiot
And this could be Arnold not knowing how to do
A fight scene but it could be
Really good writing where he just doesn't even have
The instinct to shove him off
Like he's not doing anything with his arms
He's just like yeah yeah bite bite go ahead
This sucks I better push the wheel harder
Where's my wheel?
I'm pushing this non-wheel world
So we kind of
I don't want to be a pedantic Conan nerd
But like Conan or Arnold did
Make this point during the DVD commentary
Like there's nothing here they are not
Mealing anything
And the director explained to him
That there is grain there so it's not
Like shown on camera but I think the intent
Was to have this some sort of a functional
Like industry going on
It's not shown on camera or explained
In any of the lines
I think Age of Hyboria the video game
I think when you make a wheel of pain
That does grind your
Flower for you
So this plot point in the movie
Was explained 30 years later
30 years ago in a video game
Well and I bet he had to explain it
Because that's the one thing from this movie
That I recognized as like a reference
Where I've seen it in other stuff
Where people are making fun of it
Like Star Trek did it too
Star Trek had a wheel pain
I think so
There was episode of
I think it was probably O'Brien
Because it was DS9 and it was always O'Brien
And it was like a mining thing
Yeah that's a wheel idiot
O'Brien's a wheel idiot
Everything bad happens to O'Brien
But yeah
Like everybody in sci-fi has referenced
That wheel so I feel like the guy 30 years later
Was like I knew
When I was doing with the wheel you guys
Yeah
Everybody it's true
I love the wheel I love it because it's pointless
And like why is the wheel there
I don't know to make a Conan
That's how you make a Conan
And that's a good set up for the rest of the movie
Where it's like don't ask questions
Don't you dare ask questions
If you think you know what's going on in this movie
You are fucking wrong
Right it gets you right into the vibe
So well I would argue that guy was right
He was a perfect filmmaker
He did exactly what he needed to
In the garage where Arnold like murders a man
At the start and is like
Oh shit murder huh
And like he just
He really takes to it
He loves murder instantly it's the best thing
And I don't remember the exact voiceover
But that's the voiceover
The gist of the voiceover is
He found out about murder and he loves it now
And then he just murders 150 guys
In a brutal way
He did not care anymore
Life and death the same
I'm so glad we have this Mako impression
I'm so mad I did it at the start
Why was it my idea
You're just fine too
You're both very good at Mako
I'm really self conscious about my Mako impression
We found your insecurity
You're one weakness
I don't think it's any good anymore you guys
No it's great
But you're still great at wheel
You become such an excellent pit fighter
That they I guess just send him away
To be a better pit fighter
Like again
Doesn't make any sense
Never explain why would you take your best fighter
And send him away to where they don't fight
At all
To like just some
One of the all time great
Training scenes where
He's trained by like this little Asian man
Who's showing him how to hold a sword
Very very still
And then some other guys like smirking
Like this guy doesn't know how to hold a sword
Very still and the trainer walks over
And fucking kicks him in the dick
And then it just carries away
No reason he's not involved
Smirking at my student
Fuck you
And then cut
That's his training
Well they said they gave him books
Which I'm like I don't know how that's going to help him
Because he can't read did you teach him to read
Because he could like barely
Barely speak at the start
So they had to have somebody
Looked back at the story so far
They told him been like okay this guy just
Did wheel
There's no way he can talk
Or like he can't know how to fight
He can't know like
How to add or even what numbers are
And like you can't have a movie
With just a wheel idiot
So they're like well
We gave the wheel idiot some books
And he read them good in his cage
But there's a lot of upward mobility
In
Ancient Samaria
You could just through
Through your own labor
You could like elevate your status
I think is what they're saying
Like it's a better society than ours
Is the point I'm making
Sure some children are literally
Ground beneath the wheel
But the ones that survived
They know how to read
Where they can teach themselves
Capitalism in the rawest form
Right
They also gave him a woman which was nice
Like they're breeding him
Oh god that scene
Was such a bizarre
Like I thought he wasn't going to have sex with her
Like they set you up it's like oh no he's being a gentleman
He's covering her
And then he just like drags her into a corner
And has sex with her
Push her in
And she doesn't like push her in naked
And he's like no no that's not cool
And he gives her like a fur blanket
Or he assures her until it's okay
And as soon as she drops her guard
There you go
That's the kindness
That you have received
In front of like 50 people
I love how it just pans up
To like the 16 Mongolians
Just joyfully watching him like
He's gonna fuck now this is great
I guess that's what porn would be
Before like electricity and stuff
Yeah I feel like you wouldn't not watch that
If like you lived in that village
Let's watch him ruin a woman
Like he ruins all the men we give him
Yeah
Maybe you wouldn't
Today I wouldn't but if I was like an ancient
Sumerian I might be like yeah that's like
What we do
If my whole life was just
If it was just a wheel of pain and then they
Set me free and are like well here's what we do
I guess I'd watch it I don't know
I mean the alternative seems to be wild dogs
Yeah that's true
I wrote down a quote from the
Well dogs it's tough
I wrote down a quote from the
That seems to be the only two things
In this vast expanse of nothing
It's Conan banging chicks
And ruining dudes and wild dogs eating you
So from the commentary
I wrote down a quote from the director
Who told Arnold you never said
Anything to her or anything
You never let her get relaxed
In reference to the naked woman
We're speaking about
So she's on the set very very nervous
Cause Arnold has to look
And she doesn't speak English very well
And she's just being
Handed to this giant rude Austrian
Stranger and
Arnold was just like
Yeah I didn't talk to her at all
And like the whole commentary
Arnold is just like
Openly lusting after the women on the screen
He sort of does this in every movie
If you've never watched an Arnold DVD commentary
He explains the movie as it goes
Like a child might like
Yeah I am walking through the snow
I'm disguised as a fat woman
Oh no my helmet
My fat woman helmet's coming off
You're gonna know I'm here on Mars
And
And also
He's also making
The audio book
Of the movie
And
In addition to that
When a woman's on screen he'll be like
Yes I made love to her four times
She does not like me, she'll not talk to me anymore
I'm gonna hit on this one
What I was saying
If you think the movie is problematic
And it is
You haven't seen the rest of Arnold Schwarzenegger's
Just entire life and personality
Up until he seems to have changed the last 20 years
I guess when he got old
Up until then he's just a man monster
He was just
A man monster that ravaged through our society
Much like Kona
Just why Kona works so well
Yeah one thing I really didn't like
Too was I thought that his
Like sex face was kind of too good
Like
His like I'm ready for this lady face
Was too like happy
It was like he wasn't trying to be cool
He was like literally really into it
And I didn't like it
He was real switched on, there was no acting there
He was
He's like I will show her a real treat
I'll make love to her on the set of this film
Yeah cause we've seen him acting
Or he was just really really in the space
Of a wheel idiot
Because that's how a wheel idiot would see a woman
Like possibly
This is possibly the first woman
He has ever seen
He knew to put a
Mike covered cape on her
He's like first I must give her body lice
Now
That we shall have sent
We can
Fuck
So this montage full of problems
Ends
More or less ends at a feast
Where all the Mongols are together
And Arnold is the
Just the meat centerpiece
He's just sitting in the middle of the table cross legged
While they all admire him
Like a cornucopia
That's just pure beef
This is not how you sit at Thanksgiving
No this isn't how I sit
I'm not the beef cornucopia
I usually go
To my uncle
Congratulations to him
Yeah he's
We usually outsource it so the family can eat
We'll just get like a hunky person from the street
Well that well oiled man
And we celebrate him every year
As his customer
Yeah of course
There's a line at the start of that scene
That sounds like it's not supposed to be there
He's like yeah you tell my son to fuck off
Okay action
Did you notice this?
Every now and then when I watch Conan
I notice this
Yeah it's like a messenger comes up to him
And says something and he's like my son's
Disappointment or something
Yeah it's like what are you talking about
What's that dude talking about
One of the threads that never comes back
He's like oh his disappointing son will come back
And maybe like free Conan
No he's never brought up again
The other thing is you must assume maybe
He must be looking to Conan as a son
Because he seems to love him so much in this scene
But then he's just never seen again
He's gone through
I love when he asks what is good in life
And the first guy's like
What is best in life
And the first guy's like
Get some stupid ass answer of like
The open step wind
Falcons on your wrist
Wind in your hair
Yeah that's the one line I remember
Fuck this fucking Yanni shit
Are you kidding me but all the Mongols
Hate that
A soprano saxophone in your ear
A canoe under your butt
Sean baby
What is best in life
Cross your enemies
See them driven before you
Hear the lamentations of the women
Yes this is good
This is good
It's such an iconic line
That just
One of the first lines
Spoken
Maybe the first line spoken by
Arnold actually in the movie
Oh yeah
I mean
Kid Conan has a couple of lines
But I think as an adult
I think it might have all been montage
Up until now
We're still in the first half hour
And we've gone from like child to village
To wheel to fighting pits
We're now in Mongolia where he's being trained
And talking about lamentation
Very few lines
We skipped over one of my favorite lines
There's a line I love
When they're first rating the village
He starts wrecking dudes
He's cutting them off of horses
And the leader goes kill that one
And I thought that's really good
Battle tactics
We weren't doing that
Let's start doing that
Here's some fun Conan nerd stuff
Comes up in this scene because they're wearing
What's pretty clearly like Genghis Khan armor
Which is
Yeah they're supposed to be mongols
Yeah
Hyborian mongols are
Like they have Asgard at the top
And then Samaria and then underneath that
Is just like a badly spelled Asia
So like there's Iranistan
And there's like all these countries
Clearly Robert E. Howard was looking at a map
Of the world, you know what fuck it
I'll just figure this out later
And it ended up being like 100 year long canon
But in the movie
Originally
Oliver Stone wanted to have this set in the far future
After an apocalypse
So it sent us back to the Stone Age
It would be really hard to time everything out
So there would be like a mismatch of everything
And they ended up
Just sort of deciding to go with that
But keep it in the Conan lore
So this was supposed to be
In the age of Hyboria which is like 10,000 BC
But here they are in like
You know 11th century Mongolian armor
Which you know some pedantic nerd shit
But
If you went from the comic to this
You'd be like whoa this is
These guys are dressed wrong
Anyway, out of all the potential problems
You could have with Conan
If that's your problem
I just have no respect for you
There are a lot
Big plot problems that are not the armor
But also including
Why was the one white guy
Like the guy that sold them Conan
What was his deal
Cause everybody else there was like
Asian and then the one white guy
Was also in their army
Well he's the guy that bought Conan from the wheel
Like brought him up through the fighting pits
And then after that feast
For some reason he just sets
Conan free
Like a dog and it's just like
Go be free and he like doesn't know what to do
So he chases him off into the wilderness
And then he just
Fucking weeps to see his
His like murder puppy
Just run off free
Yeah I don't know why he set him free
I love that that's not really his way
You don't know why he set him free
With the prospect of
Not seeing his precious Conan again
I don't think he has many if any lines
I don't know that guy's name
He must have just been really moved by Conan's words
He's like man this guy
Did you hear what he said?
I don't really gotta set him loose to just
Fucking tear up the world
This guy's not a real slave
This guy needs to fly free
He needs to make those ladies lamentate
So the first thing he does
With his freedom
Is
Gets torn apart by wild dogs
As we've established
You can either fucking this cage
Or get torn apart by wild dogs
There's some more fun Conan facts
Those were not well trained stunt dogs
And
If you search on YouTube you can find an outtake
Where this dog just beats the shit
Out of Arnold Schwarzenegger
Because again they didn't have stunt guys for Arnold
Because he's 260 pounds of
Mr. Olympus
And
This dog grabs his leg
And slams him down
And you can hear Arnold Schwarzenegger
GO DAMMIT
All for
$250,000
Yeah
This fucking year of horse training
Is getting the ass kicked by a dog
In the commentary he's like
The dogs, I hated this pot with the dogs
I did not like
Being mauled by those dogs
What I learned for me was whenever I see a dog
I'm automatically excited so I was just like
Dogs, yay! And then they kept murdering people
Yeah
I was like oh no
I forgot
I love everything about this scene because he falls into a cave
With like stuff he needs for the quest
Which is fucking fantastic writing
But I'll allow it
Because I think Crom did this
I think this is one of the nice things Crom did for Conan
Because Conan rules so hard Crom's like fuck it
You get to fall into a cave with an Atlantean
Chased by dogs
As soon as you get your freedom you're chased by dogs
Into a cave with swords
And he seems to
He seems to think that like
He finds a dead skeleton
That was some kind of king
Or war chief or something and that's how he gets
That's where he gets his sword from
And then he looks at them and just goes Crom
So it's like he thinks
This is the avatar of his god
Or like some manifestation or at least given to him
By his god
And then he steals the sword
So he steals god's sword
And that's
So he goes from as a child
To his idealic life
And his whole village is murdered
And he's taken away on a chain of children
To become a wheel idiot and then he's given
In the fighting pits and then he's given the Mongols
And he ruins some women
And it goes to a bitch at feast and says some cool shit
And then gets chased out and chased by wild dogs
Into a cave where he steals his god's sword
And that's under
The first 30 minutes
I was gonna say, yeah, that's like not even the first
Like that's not even the first act really
That is 29 minutes
That is the first 29 minutes
And this scene ends
In such magical filmmaking where he cuts
Off the chains with the sword
Great symbolism
Then he looks right in the camera
Like with a cute little look
Instead of killing the dogs, he just like looks at us
Like I'm gonna kill those fucking dogs
And then it cuts to him wearing a poncho
He had a sword cozy out of one of those dogs
Oh, I didn't think about that
Oh
Yeah, he killed those dogs
Yeah, they were just waiting for him
Like he's gotta come out of that cave
But he came out with a
With a chrome sword
Yeah, they should have just known
To be afraid of Arnold from the start
Yeah, I think he could have taken
All dogs since just now
I think any dog would know now
But then he runs into the witch
Yeah, this is my favorite scene in the movie
There are so many
Crazy implications
By this scene that exists
Just for no reason
Don't pull on any thread
In this scene
Okay, so the first woman he meets in the wild
He's been given women in cages that possibly
Did not know her
Certainly never used language on him
So the first woman he meets in the wild
Is like a cat witch
Yeah
So this has gotta be like what he thinks
Women are now
Cause at the end she becomes a ghost
And flies away
She also like prowls around him
Like a cat and makes cat noises
And he's down
He's down for this
She's like throwing fireworks
Like she's like oh, we're gonna fuck
And so she throws a bunch of stuff into the fire to explode
And Conan's just like into it
Like she's crawling the floor
He asks her
She's ever seen the symbol of the people
That murdered his village, the two snakes coming together
And she says
I do know the symbol
But there's going to be a price
Yeah
And then they cut to just
The price is that dick
The price was that dick
One deep dicking and I'll tell you
But in the middle of the sex
Yeah, much like the last movie
That you guys made me watch
She has to deliver the information
While they're having sex
He literally fucks the information out of her
Just like in Human Tornado
We don't have an HR department either
If this becomes a pattern, I don't know who you're telling
Just the world
We're telling the world right now
Yeah, I didn't know that was a trope
But apparently that's what we're doing
Every movie we bring you on to talk about
From now on out, a man will fuck information out of a woman
I don't know what other movies
There's no single other movie that happens
So she wants his seed
Or whatever
Or just a good night
But then she's going to
She tries to turn into a monster and kill him
She loses control
He fucks her so good that she loses control
Over her meat sack
And then becomes whatever she is
Underneath
So he has to throw her in the fire
And she thinks that's hilarious
That he fucked her real good
Again, not a great example
Of how to treat women
But she was into it though
Like you said
She flew away laughing
She was like, thank you so much
She also completely deserved it
Let me break that down
So he comes into this woman's hut
Just cut that 1,900
Hop down!
So he comes into this woman's hut
It's the first woman this poor wheel idiot
Has seen in the wild
His life has just been murder and strife
And all he wants to know
Is the symbol of the people who killed his village
And she says, I'll tell you
For that dick
And then she does
She does tell him
And it turns out it's at the crossroads of the world
And it's the symbol
Of a tower that they later say
Is in every single city in the world
That everybody in the entire planet
Knows
At least from a basement
In North Dakota or something
And you stumble upon some woman and she's like
Come into my hut
And you're like, well, hold on
There's this symbol of these people that killed my parents
It's the stars and stripes
Have you seen this symbol?
And she's like, yeah, I can tell you about that
For that dick
It's just such a
Cold-blooded, exploitative move
I thought she was trying to eat him
Like she's luring him into eating him
And the sex was just
Yeah, I think she was trying to kill him eventually
But it's the worst deal
He makes the worst deal
It's in every town
If he had gone to a single town
He would have just immediately seen that symbol
Again, so that this whole scene can be nothing
Like he would think the scene is like
To give him that information
And then they say later, nah
That information is useless
To be clear, she is
I wanna say to be clear, she is completely awesome
And hot like crazy
And just has a home
Filled with fireworks
And she's good to go
I have a feeling she didn't have to trick him into it
Like she could have said like, hey, stay the night
And he'd be like
Oh, yeah, we're gonna fuck like six times, right?
She'd be like, oh, totally
Like there's no reason for any deception
Yeah, he looked a little suspicious of her automatically
But I don't know why he would be
Because as you pointed out, he has no experience with
Like the world, so he doesn't know
How to look out for catwoman fuck monsters
Or whatever
Right, the only women he's ever seen have just been given to him
Here's one
Not to mention it takes her 40 seconds
To transform and
Has the strength of a woman when she does
So it's like it's not a ton of danger
Yeah, he handles that
Pretty easily and with no mistakes
There's another
Commentary story here
Where this scene comes on
And apparently they
Have a pretty small set
Generally you do that when there's a love-making scene
But there is some sound guy there in Spain
That was apparently just jerking it
And
The director and Arnold were both talking about
How he's getting his jollies
And they were like laughing about it
But like, it's
Pretty heavily implied that he was
Full on pleasure himself while
Trying to record and sound for this scene
So that's something
Dear God, I am so glad
That's what the world used to be like
That's how movies were made
Back then
I guess, I guess you paid the star
Like $200,000
And just had him attacked by dogs
Hired a pervert to run the camera
I would love it
To re-record the commentary
Tell the exact same story
But with the tone it should elicit
Like in 2021
With them like, oh God, you remember that fucking guy
Yeah, he should be in prison
We should really have done something about that
Do you remember
Arnold, do you remember all the things you specifically did
Yeah
We should all be in prison
It's making me very sad
I high-five to the guy
Well, he still has a little jizz on his hands
Great, great Arnold
Impression
Thank you
I cut that iconic line
Okay, so
He has thrown, he's bang a woman
And thrown her into the fire after she turned into a monster
And he next meets
Subotai
Subotai
It was just chain tour
Thief and archer
This dude straight up yelling out his character class
When Arnold meets him
I'm a fourth level druid
What module are you guys playing
Level 11 wheel, idiot
I love how he gets his attention to you
Just like, give me food
Give me food
So I can die fighting dogs with lots of pep and vigor
That's how he wins Arnold over
As he says, he doesn't want the food to eat it
He just wants like the energy
To fight some dogs
And Conan is like
Yeah, all right, all right, we can hang
My kind of guy
Yeah, he's a real straight shooter
We're all fans of murder here
You know
And then because they forgot to give him a horse
You know what I like about this movie
It's such a great detail
Yeah, if you couldn't afford a horse back then
You just ran
And it looks
Kind of silly
They just show them running over a vast plains
With nothing in sight
It sucks
I really like their religious discussion
He's not like Tom Cruise who looks cool running
He looks ridiculous
Especially going through sand
Yeah
He looks just like an out of control meat train
Like somebody's
It's somebody's job to stop this
And they're not doing it
I never learned how to stop on the wheel
Someone stop me, get a rope
He wouldn't have, he wouldn't have learned how to stop
He wouldn't have learned about resistance
Yeah, no brakes on that shit
He's got new man's brakes
You learned a lot about the gods of Hyboria here
Where Supo Tai is talking about
Like oh my god's this guy and Arnold's like
Crom would kill your stupid god
Oh my god's above your god and Arnold's like
Super pissed off about it like I guess Altitude
Determines the strength of a god
He just gives up that argument at that point
He's like fuck
I'd be bested
I learned nothing of theology on the wheel
Or the books they gave me in the sex cage
Did not mention
He ate those books
And fucked one of them
I like that they go to town and just get tore up
On Stygian Black Lotus
Yeah, immediately
First order of business
Did he punch that camel?
Did he really punch that camel because
He had to
There's no way with Arnold like
Not speaking a word to that poor woman
That Arnold like held back
In the camel punching scene
And that's his bad too
He bumped into that camel
The camel's mind of his own business
He smashed into the camel
And then punches the camel out for that
To reference that scene
That iconic scene where
A man just knocks out a camel
Or a horse or something
Why was that the one that stuck in our memory
Just punches out a horse
And everyone around him looks shocked
When he did it
Yeah, that just stops the party
Everybody's like fuck
This is a problem
And I cannot solve it
That's what's great
It's not like porkies
They're having a wild time
These guys are the assholes
They're the ones that get kicked out of every bar
No one likes them
They are regarded as an issue
Everywhere they go
And then they run into
Sandy Bergman
The hot girl who is breaking into the same snake temple as them
Yeah, they just go
Still high
Might as well to break into the snake temple
That's part of the bender
And run into the one other person already robbing it
Pretty good
You know everything you need to know
She's already robbing it
And I think she's probably
A dual class thief
Berserker
She doesn't spell it out like Subotai
But that's the vibe I get off of her
Here's the thing, I tried to pay attention
This time
Watching Conan, something about it
Just destroys parts of my brain
So that I can only remember
Three or four things from the movie
So watching it this time, I took notes
I really tried
Does the woman get a name?
Yes, I think her name is Valeria
I don't know if they say her name
I don't know if they say it
Do they say it?
Not does the character, does she get a name in the movie?
Can anybody remember that?
I don't think she was named
Yeah, 80% sure they don't say it in the movie
But I know that just because Conan nerding stuff
So they've just met the woman
And immediately said about
Robbing the big snake temple
I love the stakes on this
Like they get in there
So easily
It's not like a heist scene
It's not like a big dramatic scene
They stumble in, they immediately find
The best jewel
This huge jewel, it's the center of it
And it's guarded by a huge snake
And then they immediately kill that snake
Just beat the shit out of it
The snake was awesome, it looked so cool
It looked great, it looked like
They spent a fortune on it
It rears up and you're like
Here's a hell of a fight and Conan just spears it through the head
Instantly
And it's got like a little bit of struggle left in it
And then they fucking nail it with arrows
And punch it, hit it with an axe and just fucking kill it
800 times and like
The whole scene is like 30 seconds
Why did you make such an awesome snake?
And then just beat the shit out of it
Until it's dead and then leave
Maybe it was a Jaws situation
Where we only think it looks awesome
And if they tried to make it move
It was gonna look bad
Right, that's probably likely
Yeah
Maybe they just found a really big snake
And just like the dogs
Just let it loose on Arnold
That's what happened
So they killed the snake
I like that we get a sense of
Sandy Berkman's character where she's just a full maniac
Like her plan is just to go dress up
Like one of the girls
And just jump into the crowd
And when things go bad, she starts stabbing everybody
And then shoots out on a Polly
And
Twice she screams
Her catchphrase that like
Who wants to live forever?
She's just got a full on death wish
I love it
If you were Conan and raised in that world
How would you not immediately fall in love?
Absolutely
And they do, like again
No resistance here, like the next scene
They're fully in love
He gives her the biggest gym
And she can't believe it
She's like, I was gonna fuck you anyway
But now this is like
True love
Yeah, he literally buys her love
Yeah, you could look at it that way
When he talks to her with the gym, am I over the line?
Because they did some like
He probably put it in her butt
They did some stroking and some implication with that gym
That was like
It's getting a little weird
The gym definitely watched
This was each of the actors first sex scenes
In a film
And you can
As you watch it, you kind of get that sense
Like they kind of don't know how to
Present themselves
Towards camera
It seems like they're both kind of like, is this okay?
Is that, I mean
We just met, are you really touched
Your boob like this?
It was just kind of meaty and bumpy
And slapping, and like
Yeah, that's probably how that should have been
Character
I don't know, I feel like those two
They should have torn the room apart
I think, those two
After like the biggest heist of their lives
You know, because they were in love
So it was like sweeter than the other sex scenes
And they didn't know how to do that
So they were like, I guess, I don't know
It's like, just like stare at each other
A lot, like
Stare at each other, kind of fall sideways
Like we each just fall on our ribs
They didn't want to take too much from the human tour
Native, like he's already fucked information out of somebody
He can't fuck the house down, literally
And otherwise everybody just knows
What you're doing
Like this is human tournado, come on
Dino De Laurentiis
Stop stealing from Dolomite
Were they together for a long time too
Was that supposed to be like, they were just getting high
And drunk and fucking around
For like a month or something
No, I think this was the night of
Oh my god, because I was like, well maybe that makes sense
That she's in love with him so much
He literally sacrificed her life for him
After like
Like some period of time
That we didn't see, but no, it's just like one night
Together and she's like, that's it, I'm devoted
Kill me
I think there's an argument to be made
That that montage took at least like three or four nights
Like that's some serious
I suppose
But the king is looking for them
Because
They're like famous
Outlaws now in this town
And they're brought before Max Fonsido
The great Max Fonsido
And
He hates these snake guys, so he's like super into this
So he's like, yay, I'm glad you
Stole those guys' chance
He just thinks that they rule, like when they bring
Them in, they bring Conan
The rest of them in and he's just like
You guys fucking rock, you know that
You're the best
Like I brought you in just because you kick ass
Big fan, big fan
But he also needs to save his daughter
From Thulsa Doom, who just happens to be
You know, James Earl Jones
Who killed Conan's family
Completely buries that lead, like that comes second
To him just laughing and being like
You guys fucking rule
Sticking it to those snake dicks
And then they give them
Just as many rubies as they can carry
Which I love because
They're giving piles of rubies to these fuckups
That can easily be traced back to them
Like these guys are going to leave a ruby trail
Everywhere they go for a countryside
So everyone will know exactly
Who paid them to do this
So like the king is not
Being quiet about it, he's like I need someone to go
I can't send my own guys because then
The snake temple will know I did it so he's like
I'm going to pay you guys in the most traceable
Currency I have
And anyway, I just love it
I love that everyone in this world is nitty
It's great, it's the best
It's the best premise for a movie
What if everybody in the world is just
Dumb and drunk and fucking violent
It's fuck, nobody really cares if they'll ever die
And then let's set the movie in that
Everyone is a wheel idiot
Everyone's a wheel idiot
And while I say
And I feel very strongly
Every person in this world is stupid
The filmmaking itself is masterful
Because the next scene
Arnold is holding up the thulsa do medallion
To just demonstrate
The choice that he has
To abandon this quest
For revenge and spend the perfect life
With the perfect woman
Or embrace revenge
And solve the riddle of steel
It's just all laid out
Without saying a word
And I love it, I think it's perfect
And he does, of course
Of course he picks revenge
Isn't about him just banging on top of
A pile of meat with his special lady friends
Settling down, like having a couple kids
Getting a job, wearing a suit
Strapping him to a wheel
Raising him upright
So he leaves her with a pile of money
He's like, hey, later
You can have the big gem in all these nice memories
But I'm out
And finds that snake cult
Like they're insidious later
But our first impression of the snake cult
Is literally just hippies in a desert
Covered in flowers
I think one guy's playing a tambourine
And he regards them with open disgust
This is the evil snake cult
That he wants revenge on
And they're just hippies
I think that too is when he finally meets the narrator
We skipped over the
Meeting the narrator part
I don't know, it's not important
Because, again, the narrator does nothing
So
I think he kind of follows them
Towards the meets the narrator
Maybe it's like a graveyard for the gods
And there was a big battle
And anyway, it's never explained
Right, Conan sees the hippies
And then he meets Mako
And Mako is nice like
He screams at his character class
And he's like, I have a wizard!
And he's like, okay, cool
I need one of those, we need spell casting
I really like how
Not on their vibe
I don't understand what is going on
With their sense of humor or the way they talk
But he's like, I'm going to kill you
And Conan's like
And Mako's like, yeah, it is pretty funny
And then they sit down together
And then the next day Conan's like
Hey, is there any flowers around here?
And then Conan's like, yeah
And Mako's like, I get it
And Conan's like, yeah, and they laugh
Again, this is crazy
Because Conan
Does need these flowers
To infiltrate the snake cult
But Mako doesn't know that
So it's sort of a joke that
He's going to give these flowers to a girl
But he's actually going to use them
To infiltrate the cult and kill everybody
But there's no way Mako gets this joke
Yeah, it's just weird
I thought he was going to give the flowers
To the king's daughter
And that was the joke, was like, yeah
I'm so confident that I'm going to go
Get her, that I'm bringing her a present
And it's like a present that can easily die
In like a day, so like, I'll be right back
I thought that was the joke
That would be a pretty advanced joke
For a real idiot
Yeah, that's true
There's plenty of jokes you always have to explain
At length, so
But then, I love the next scene
Because this establishes a theme
Through the movie
And it's that he shows up
And he disguises himself
And so much of the rest of this movie
Revolves around Arnold Schwarzenegger
Using stealth
And it's always the least believable thing
You've seen
Yeah, he uses seduction to infiltrate the cult
He's like, goes up to a dude
He's like, hey, what's up, Sugar? You want to go behind
A rock and bang one out
And this fresh-faced dude
He's like, oh, hell yeah
Giant buff guy, he's like, what does he say?
He's like, you've got a beautiful and well-grown body
He's like, that's a fucking wheel body
I would want to get up on that wheel body
Ride that wheel
But then he takes his robe
It's like, orange hippie robe
And tries to blend in with the rest of the crowd
And it's just immediately
Looks like a tragic color
Yeah, he was a viewer
He's like, three times the size
Of every other person there
And like, you don't believe for a second
That he's part of this hippie cult
And my favorite part of the movie
Is that nobody else does
This enemy has just
Pointed at him and they're like
What the fuck? What the fuck are you doing?
Who brought the fucking ogre?
Do you know the ogre?
You know in WWF when they put a wrestler
In a suit
And it looks like a gorilla is in a disguise
It's like this
Arnold in this movie looks like
A man 50 years earlier
And Polly Shore was like hilariously sneaking
His pet cavemen into a Ku Klux Klan rally
Like it looks like
It doesn't look natural in any way
It's ridiculous
As just every time
I think it would have looked much better
If he hadn't stolen the priest's outfit
Because plenty of people
Were closer to Fulsa Doom
That were just regular congregants
So if he just pretended to be
A new regular congregate
It seems like that would be a way better plan
Right if you just showed up
Like
I'm a fucking freakish mountain of meat
And I'm here to join your cult
We can always use a freakish mountain of meat in a cult
And they show
His plan like
Totally going off the rails in real time
When he goes up to one of the guards
Who again he did not have to go up to
Nobody stopped him, he just walks right up to him
Hands him this jade amulet
That only the thief from the
Famously stolen jade amulet
Nobody's handing him the amulets
Why are you doing this
I'm the buffest priest ever
You've never seen me before
And here's the stolen goods everyone's looking for
I'm gonna go up and see your god king now
And he immediately just takes it
Without saying a word he walks straight to like a supervised
He's like okay look at this
It's off the part so quickly
It doesn't even have a pretense of working
So if you're watching along
You're picking apart the plot threads thinking you're smart
Yeah everybody else, no he's a dish
You're right that actually
Is pretty great it's like Conan should
Don't let Conan come up with a plan
Have you seen what happens when Conan comes up with a plan
That was his whole plan
So I'm just gonna walk up to him now
It's what he gets
He could have just killed his way in
No problem
Or like Lydia said
Just present yourself as
As like an opera
I'm a huge pile of meat
Like look you've got like other piles of meat around
You've got fucking spinal tap here at the big hammer
And they wouldn't recognize him
They haven't seen him since he was a child
No nobody's seen him
There was no reason for any of this
And it's great
Poor Conan he's so dumb
So it doesn't work out they crucify him
Another fun fact is that the
Contemplates this on the tree of woe
It's fantastic
What an awesome thing to say
In his like beautiful gown
James Earl Jones comes out
And his beautiful gown of like
Snake print
Does he die?
Couldn't decide if he was dying
Or if he literally died and came back from the dead
After they crucified him
I don't think you're supposed to know
Certainly he was dying but not before he killed a vulture with his teeth
Not even to eat it or to like sustain himself
He just spat it out and it's like
Got one
Those buzzards had lice
And so
So the buzzard handler
Had to give Arnold Schwarzenegger like
Alcohol to Gargle
So that uh
But yeah he had buzzard lice in his mouth
During the filming of this one
Wait wait what? Yeah what?
Yeah like those are real buzzards
And he had to put a real buzzard in his mouth
You can't even tell that it's
I know they could have used to put it
This is trivia that
Like is famously all over the internet
So it's entirely possible
This is some bullshit that just like became a legend
But like I believe it
I mean you have an actual outtake of him just getting attacked by a doll
Like if this movie
If this movie is about anything
It's about animal cruelty
Like they go and see Arnold Schwarzenegger
Punch dogs, punch a camel
Like stab a snake
Bite a vulture
Why?
It's easier to get Arnold Schwarzenegger
To put a lice-ridden buzzard in his mouth
To make a buzzard puppet
I think that's what the filmmakers were saying here
Yeah he'll just do it
He was so agreeable
I'm so glad that I don't feel sorry for him
I feel more like this is like
Getting revenge for things he will do later
That he only got paid $250,000
It's entirely possible
That like he was just being himself
Who at that point was just a fantastic jerk
Like he's a very entertaining jerk
But it's very possible that they were like
Don't make the puppet
He's such a dick
Just let the dogs go
Let's see what happens
The filthy fucking bird in his mouth
Go suck a vulture Conan
Anyway he
Like I guess dies whatever
They bring him back to the wizard
So luckily they met that wizard in time
And he paints characters all over him
But that's not really the plan
The plan is that like the demons
Come take him away
I guess that's how death works
Like demons come and take your spirit away
It's never really explained
If you're badass enough they have to come
Fight the soul out of your body probably
The plan is just
To tie him down real good
So that they can't take his soul
And they punch the ghost too
They punch the ghost
It seems like it kind of works
Like she's kind of hitting him with her knife
It's a perfect Conan plan
I thought about it for even a second
Nobody even thought to think about it
They were like that sounds like a good plan
Well they can't take him if we tie him down
And what if they try
I'ma hit him
It looked like this was going to be like a resurrection ritual
Or like a healing ritual
But then the demons come and mock out
Isn't like oh yeah
This happens all the time
Let me shoot some fireballs at these ghosts
He's just crying
He has no idea
He was just going to pretend
Like oh I'm sorry
It didn't work you know I tried
Don't kill me
This dude's a full grifter
He's just like a snake oil salesman in the middle of the desert
Just drawing random tattoos on this dead guy
Like oh this is totally work I've done this before
Well and also remember
He's like there will be a price to pay
And the girl character
Who doesn't have a name
Is instantly like oh I'll pay it
I'll pay the price so I'm in love with him
You didn't have to say it
We know you're the one paying it
It's not going to be the hilarious wizard guy
It's not going to be Tsubo Tai Archer and Thief
Like it's going to be the girl that didn't get a name yet
Yup
So the next plan they have
Is a little bit better
They cover themselves in rad
Like
Camouflage paint
I think it's pretty good
They kind of just go in quiet
And then they just go crazy
Arnold sneaking
Just a visual of Arnold
In that enormous
Buick of a body just trying to
Tiptoe around you
No you can just
Feel him coming through the floor
There's no way
You can hear his muscles creaking like six blocks away
Well and they also happen to show up
During their like five o'clock orgy time
So that was on their side
Yeah they're just
Huge magical snake orgy
Orgy and uh
Human pea soup eating
Yeah
They make such a big deal
Bring out this cauldron
Like show the entire like ceremonial
Precession to put it out there
Conan knocks it over in the middle of the fight
He's like you know what fuck your guys a soup
And it doesn't do anything
It doesn't hurt anybody
Not even like a home alone trap
It does nothing he just fucks their dinner up
That's another moment where I was sure
Like oh he's gonna spill the big soup on them
And like scold them and that's gonna be how he gets rid
Of a bunch of the guys and then they're like
No it's just soup it's their dinner
Also it has body parts in it
And the girl picks up a hand and like licks
Soup off the hand because there's just a full
Hand in the soup and like a head
And then the soup is just used
As like a comedy thing almost
Like a slapstick
Conan plan
I have two comments from the commentary
I'd like to share with you
One of them was I was getting laid a lot
In this movie it's amazing
And there's one
From this scene that where Arnold says
There's a corpse that's got really big tits
He's just a dog
Somebody taught to talk
If it still has all its holes
Arnold is into it
Like 30 years later
He would become a sentient being
Like in 2005
He became self aware
And then he's like
Oh god I've got to do some different stuff
But up until then he was just a pile
Of reactions
I did notice that they were only eating women
Don't know if you noticed that there were no nude male corpses
That were like hung up in the background
For to be made into food
It was all women
Like chickens and cows you don't
You eat the ladies
Apparently that was their role
Man meat
Man meat's not very tender
Anyway that's the plan and it works
It works to paint themselves
In a relevant camouflage
And sneak Arnold in
And then once they're in there
Just fucking kill everybody
And then they take the princess and run
And kill some more people and it's awesome
They almost get away
Except for they don't realize
Thulsa Doom can turn a snake into an arrow
Which is just the best
Yeah so okay that's another
He picks up the snake, he whispers to it
Seeks
And you're like okay it's gonna like spy on them
And then he pulls it straight
Turns it into an arrow and shoots it
Into the woman and I'm like
How could I ever have known
I think his magic only works for women
Because there's no reason he would want to hit the woman
He'd want to get Arnold
But I think the snake's like
Alright if you're not going to specify I'm going for that hot lady
And come on
So for Arnold, even if you were presented
With three targets he's
Eight times the size of that one
The threat is clear
Barely holding on to that
Horse or camel he's just like flopping all over
Just you can nail him so easily
But he shoots the woman of course
And as she's dying she says
The hardest core fucking thing
Says let me breathe my last breath
Into your mouth
Oh Lydia didn't like it
You got no sense of romance Lydia
It was nasty
It's so hard to write
There's no toothbrushes in that world
There's no tooth brushing at all
That's true and he does have a buzzard
Lice in his mouth as an actor
Not even the character
You're gonna have soul in your mouth
Soul and lice
Just all up in your grill
There's a scene I wanted to mention
Before we get too far past it
I think it's the movie's only flaw
It's when
Arnold Thorson, the guy that's in every Arnold movie
He plays the guy with
The Hinchman with Bangs, Thor Graham I think is his name
In the movie, anyway he has the hammer and he swings it
And he knocks down that entire pillar
And like you know it's all falling
And then it cuts to his face like he's like
Did I do that?
He's kind of sorry?
Yeah it's such a strange expression
Yeah it's like they were going for this
Urkel gag but like
He missed by so much as an actor
That I'm like what the fuck
Was that reaction? Is that the best take they could get?
Anyway that's my only
Fault with Conan the Barbarian
Guy with comically large
Circus Hammer is
Just seated all throughout this movie
We haven't discussed him much but he's
Great in that he just doesn't seem
To ever know what he's doing in the movie
Seems like somebody pointed him one direction
And he just realized he's going the opposite direction
And like every tech like oh shit
I'm gonna go over here with my
Huge inflatable hammer
I guess
I do like in Conan's village
In the start of the movie some guy sees that giant hammer
He's like I got an idea I'm gonna stand perfectly still
With my shield up and he's like dude
This is a hammer he has a rate in the shield with it
Fucking guy's dead as hell
Their next plan
Is another fantastic one
They basically
Lay an ambush
For Thulsa Doom and his men and they just
Like pop out and wreck everybody
They kill
At least seven stunt horses
I love the trap though it's excellent
It's excellent trap speaking as an expert
Trappist
I love their traps
Like all the classics on display there
And I want to say
The circus hammer guy
There was a reason they highlighted him
And it's all paid off here
When he sees
Conan's helmet and he's like oh
Strength test here it is
I was designed to do this and he reels back
And gives it a good solid bop
Only that's the trigger for a trap that kills him
So you knew he was gonna strength test
With that hammer and exploded that
I love that he thinks he's
Like outsmarted Conan
And he's like haha the fool
Has decided to crouch there in plain sight
And doesn't realize he has a smashable head
And he hits it
And Spike comes and hits him in the stomach
It's
Fanta, fucking Looney Tunes
It's pure Looney Tunes
It's totally a Bugs Bunny gag
It's so good
Yeah it's surprising
Like I literally gasped when he got
Spiked
Yeah and Arnold like walks up
And just gets right in his face like
You fucking died to Looney Tunes
Watch you bleed out
I thought you and I would share
A laugh at how stupid this was
So you fell for it
Fanta Tunes too
That's the Arnold impression
That's the one right there
Leading with that
So they
Before this they had burned the woman
And uh
It's important she had a Viking funeral
And the gods embraced her or something
Yeah for sure
Just wanna lay that groundwork
You were about to talk to the other guy
Yeah well shh
Cause Arnold's kinda losing the next fight
We kinda get to drop on him
It's not going well but then
She shows up
Sandy shows up as a Valkyrie
And like hits him in the face with the sunlight beam
And that's all
All of her like sultry mystical armor
Like that's her role is now she's got like
Form fitting
Sultry armor and it dazzles in the sun
And it blinds him with her form
Yup
That's her big role
I think we forgot to mention too that earlier
About how like if I die
I would come back
And I would kick ass with you or something
Yeah she kept her promise
But it was like I'm so in love with you
That I would not let death separate us
And since there's two more movies
I'm assuming
She probably disappears forever
I don't know we'll get to that
We'll get to Conan the destroyer which is crazy
In so many new and wonderful ways
I love this whole scene because
Obviously they kinda have some powers now
Like they got a Valkyrie on their side
Conan is killed
Only threats to him in a fight
And then Tulsa on the way out
Like all of his men are dead he starts to run away
But on the way out he's like you know what
Fuck you guys I'm gonna shoot a little
Sucker arrow into the princess
Gonna stiff snaker
Yeah he's gonna stiff snaker
And then they just jump in the way
Block it with a shield I think Subotai gets the block
So Tulsa do like couldn't even land
This petty cheap shot
To run away while they cheer
Like a total bitch
Just humiliated
You kinda think that's the end of the movie
And like maybe they're gonna leave him out there
The way that it's shot and framed
And the way that they celebrate
Like okay this is the end
Like they're gonna go back with the princess
The threat is still out there
And it's not over
And they cut immediately to them
Sneaking back into his temple
Again
Just to fuck him up
Just because you know what
Fuck you you're not getting out of this
You're not gonna be a big bad guy like looming on the horizon
So they sneak back in this time with the princess's help
And again you're supposed to believe that Arnold
Can sneak around like
You can see this his enormous shadow
Just like dwarfing the guards and they're like
Not blinking and turning around
Like he's the worst guy to sneak around
But it works it works so well
He makes it right backstage at Tulsa do's like
Trump rally and he's like
He's like oh hey I see you
And his only defense was to walk up to him
And give him like
The ambison speech
Like the hey
I didn't even think anything of it
But like the day I touched your life
Was the most important thing that's ever happened to you
And like all of your trauma I gave that to you
That's why you're so badass
I turned you into a wheel dump
He basically says
Luke I am your father
Like let's truck
I've got no sword he's just
He's an unstoppable fucking fury golem
I'm just gonna go for the dad gambit
I'm just gonna
Look maybe I'm your dad
Maybe I'm your dad right
No that's not gonna work
He like seems to realize no
Right but no
You didn't go for that one
That's cool
This is some of the greatest storytelling
Ever done because
We skipped over this the last scene but
The second henchman was using his father's sword
Arnold's father's sword
From the beginning of the movie
In that fight Arnold cuts it in half
With his new Atlantean sword
And he takes the remains of it
Just like eight inches of jagged
Blade and that's what
Right now he jams into Tulsa Dooms neck
So instead of saying like oh my god you're right
You're my dad he's just like no fuck you
This is my dad this sword
Is my dad
Meet my fucking sword dad
Over the course of two very clumsy chops
His new sword dad
Hacks off Tulsa Dooms head and he just
Holds it up he's like fuck you
For such a long time
Just like quietly
Uncertainly
Yeah well he throws it down
He just bowls it like a bocce ball down the steps
And then he sits there he just stands there
Like okay what are you gonna do now
Like I'm not running away
But they like know what to do
This is in their cult manual it's like
If you're leader's head off everyone slowly
Get in a single file line and you know
Douse your torch that's what you do
When this happens like they know
They had a protocol for like if a barbarian
Comes up and chops off his head and bowls it
Down the stairs and then stands there quietly
I love that he stands there quietly and he has
No next step he's just like
The end right guys? It's the best
The end they all have to agree
This is full Conan nerd here
Maybe this is entry level Conan nerd but like
This sword got its own three act story
And then if you were a
Full dork you could argue that this
Movie is this is
The main character of the movie is the sword
The story of the sword it's all
It's a riddle of steel
Cause this sword was forged by
His father had a big speech about it
Got taken away from his dead body used
To cut off the head of
Conan's mom
Conan did all kinds of
Unspeakable things while in the hands of
Conan's worst enemies and then Conan cut it
And they're like oh that story is over
But no it comes back
And kills the guy from the beginning
And then it's finally over cause
Conan throws the broken sword after the head
And I'm just saying like this is some good
Writing without any irony
This is good writing
To have this much
Story for just a sword
I guess if it was about the sword
But it seemed like they were setting up
They said in the beginning that Conan
Rules his own land in time
Or something and then you do the whole movie
And he's in front of all these people
That worship Paul Sedum and he's killed
Paul Sedum and I thought oh this is how he
Gets his kingdom he's also been offered
Like unlimited riches
By the other king who says you could
Make a kingdom with these riches so he's got the money
He's got the people
No that's not the story about it
Agent of chaos well
Conan is the saga like Conan is
Hundreds of years of
Hundreds of books and I'm saying
This movie is sort of the story
About this sword I don't like to make this case too much
That I'll only be like one of those guys is like
Oh the city is one of the characters of the show
But like this it's
Framed in a way that you can have this discussion
It doesn't seem like we're going to
But that's like
I think a way to look
At the movie that is elegant
I see what you're saying it does work if you look at it
That way for sure like it's a good arc
For the sword much
Better than for Conan
I totally believe that
Conan had a fucking
Bender
Yeah Conan was just a loose maniac
And then some stuff happened around him
That made a story
I think the writers
I would give them that credit
I would say I could probably see your interpretation
As their intention
I do think there are some elements
The writer is Academy Award winning Oliver Stone
I do think
He knew what he was doing
He also knew what he was doing enough to just break every rule
Because he thought it would be fun
Like what if this guy
What if this guy is just a maniac that doesn't listen to me
At all
As I go through this and that's what the movie was
That's what Conan was rampaging through
His screenplay
And yeah I don't know how disruptive
The coup was
But it happened while they were filming in Spain
Is like they did kind of have a
Reset on the government
Or a partial reset on the government
But I mean they were in the wilderness
Fucking around with vulture breeders
The movie itself was such an agent of chaos
It's a miracle anybody survived this movie
This movie should have just resulted
In the death of every single actor
And old cast and crew
How do we know that the movie
Didn't start the coup
Didn't Dino De Laurentiis do
Wasn't he part of Apocalypse Now
Wasn't he a producer on Apocalypse Now
Was he?
I thought he might be
Again it's another one of those production stories
Where it's like what the fuck
I'm starting to think it might be him
It might be him
He might just be a lunatic
Who fed vultures to his lead actor
Maybe
Didn't have the best idea of like how to
Run a movie set
There are multiple movies that devolve
Into just pure chaos with body counts
And just dog attacks
If that happens multiple times like once
Okay that's just a fun accident
Multiple dog attacks
Maybe somebody's steering those dogs
Right
Anyway I want to ask Lydia
Something
Okay
So this movie ends with the narrator
Once again just like you said at the start
They tell us that he's going to become king by his own hand
And the movie ends
With him become
With a shot of him while the narrator says
And he became king
By his own hand and that's another story
Do you think
The next movie is about that
Oh my god
Yeah I do that last shot
It is not
Well I should have known
You think the third movie is about that
The third movie
Yeah it's red Sonya
So he's like a side character
Do you think they resolved that in the third movie
Well
Yeah I'm going to say yeah
Did they do it in the third movie
To this day
They still have never
They have not made Conan the Conqueror
That explains how he became a king
They made multiple movies teasing that storyline
Just never did it
Fucking age and chaos I love it so much
This proves that once again
I'm very bad at predicting Conan
I'll just never be able to figure it out
They've got to make it someday
Like they made the new Conan
It wasn't very good with Jason Momoa
They better hurry
That last shot was my favorite
Of the movie of him sitting on the throne
I was like that looks badass
You can tell they pulled it directly from a comic
Yeah like it's so
It's so like
It's so teasing it gets your imagination
Firing it's such a good idea
And then you hear that it's getting a sequel
And then the sequel comes out and you're like
It's not about that at all
Wait what
And then you hear that there's a spin off
And you're like okay maybe they're going to hash this out
And you're like
Nope not about that either
What
Everybody's just been baffled for several decades now
As they continue to ignore this
And talk about it
It's called Conan the Conqueror
We know it has a title
Nope they refuse to make it
All the actors killed themselves
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