The Dogg Zzone by 1900HOTDOG - Dogg Zzone 9000 - Episode 47, How You Xanadu-ing? With Lydia Bugg!
Episode Date: November 3, 2021Special guest Lydia Bugg lays an expert trap that ensnares both Seanbaby and Brockway: It's Xanadu! The movie, the musical, the box office bomb, the reason people make fun of bad movies to this day, t...he... secret horror film?
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I'm the internet's Sean baby
and I'm here with Xanadu super fan
Robert Xanadu Brockway.
Xanadu.
Yeah.
It's in my head forever.
For the rest of our lives.
It is. Hold on.
I have a Brockway fact for you.
I love Xanadu.
I will accept so many follow up questions.
Oh, I'm going to have a ton.
First, this week we're joined
by chief Xanaduologist at UC Xanadu.
She's a writer
for the trailer park boys comic
of one nine hundred Xanadu
weekly columnist Lydia Xanadu
bug.
I'm alive.
That's the only
other song I could remember off the top of my head.
Sean is finally getting his
musical episode that he's finally
I have been trying to make this happen
the whole fucking time.
Let's plug something where people
can come see your work.
I work for this great website
called one nine hundred hot dog dot com.
Oh fuck yeah.
I don't really have anything extra this
time.
What about the trailer park boys comic?
Let's plug the trailer park boys comic.
You can check out the trailer park boys
second comic book which is out.
I wrote the first story in it.
It's called the trailer park boys bagged and
boarded. It's still available.
We also just did a successful kickstarter
to combine the first
the two issues into a graphic
novel type deal
eventually.
And you can follow me on twitter.
You can follow me on twitter at
you knowlidia
like UK and OW Lidia.
I don't want you to worry this is going to be a
recurring bit Lidia but how are you Xanadu
I'm saying a great
I've been looking forward to this all week
and I feel like I have a deeper understanding
of why you like doing this to me.
Yes.
This was Lidia's idea for the podcast
not exactly revenge for making
you watch Conan but I would say spite
spite maybe
vengeance. No
I genuinely love this movie.
I wanted to share it with you. You got to
hear so many good songs because of me.
It's true. I actually knew most of the
songs because the soundtrack was
ubiquitous. I think this movie was
almost instantly
like a shorthand for
a joke about bad movies like I think this
movie was a critical failure but also
like a box office failure
and the year after this came out
was the first razzies and it was directly
inspired by Xanadu like it
Xanadu invented the idea of
hating on bad movies.
Just like half of what we do here is
we owe it all to Xanadu.
So I'd never seen the movie just because
it was so like on my radar of like oh
this is a bad movie I'm like yeah
okay we all we all get that it's a bad
but after watching it
I think it's way more complicated than that
and I'm very excited to talk about it.
This was like the gender
swapped Conan. This is like a big
cultural event that like most people
experienced but like
it's still fun to discover. So Brockway
and I are discovering it. We just watched it for the first time
like last night. See I didn't even know
the soundtrack. I knew nothing about
Xanadu. I knew it was something disco
and I think that's about it and that it was supposed to be
bad and that's it.
I never knew anybody that watched it. I never
heard any of the songs. It's just
not in my wheelhouse at all.
That's so crazy to me. But you were aware
that it was like a
financially devastating bold failure, right?
No, I wasn't even aware of that until
just now. Wow.
Have this didn't light the world on fire? What?
That's
crazy to me because like I grew up with this
because of fun Lydia fact
my dad was a new wave
musician and he loved electric
light orchestra.
So he loved this movie because he liked the
soundtrack other than the Olivia Newton
John songs.
It's kind of like tailor made
for me. I love
roller skating. I love
Olivia Newton. You travel by laser?
Yeah, lasers are great. I love pinball.
There's like a big pinball scene.
It's just like
Greek mythology. For no reason.
I love things for no reason.
Which is much of what this movie is.
Kind of upbeat and pretty but don't
actually have a plot. It's perfect.
It is absolutely perfect.
And it shouldn't have failed, I guess.
We'll get into all the magic that
happens in the movie and the insanity but
this was Olivia Newton John
just post-Greece
and Gene Kelly is obviously
from Greece to Greece.
From Greece to Greece.
That's my clever thing for the day.
I'm out.
Wow, good job.
Fantastic. I love it.
And Michael Beck is more complicated.
Michael Beck played Sonny
the male lead here.
Rockway was like, where do I know that guy
before the show? And I was like the warriors.
He was the main warrior.
That's exactly what it was.
But listen, what else Michael
Beck was in? He was in a movie called
Megaforce and another one called
Battletruck.
He looks like a
Battletruck guy.
He's a Battletruck guy.
He played a ninja alongside
Mako in The Last Ninja
and he played a Native American
in a movie called Trams with a man called
Horse. So that's the versatility.
He can play a Japanese man
or a Native American man
and then he just kind of fell off the map doing
bit parts like to the point where
he was such an unknown actor a few years
after this movie that he played three different
characters on Murder She Wrote. They're just like,
ah, no one will know who this fucking kid is.
The range on this guy, he can play any race.
I feel like
I recognized him from Murder She Wrote
in the back of my brain because I also love that
show and he has like
Murder She Wrote face.
Yeah, he's very like 80's handsome.
I think
he's an objectively beautiful man.
Yeah, I bet this dude
just left
a trail of panties in his wake. No question.
See, I feel like that was what they wanted you
to think about him but I didn't
really buy it. I think he's
the only problem with this movie.
There's like 2.5 problems
and one is him
trying to be like a macho cool guy but he's also
like an artist and he's roller skating
constantly which like you cannot look
cool while you roller skate.
I like that he tried to look pissed off
like he tried to look really mad while
he roller skated. Yeah, he looked tough as shit.
He was like intensely
roller skating around, yeah.
Prayer of the roller voice disagrees.
Yeah, but
I didn't buy him. I didn't buy him as an actor
and I didn't buy him as like a macho man.
See, I have a lot of things
in here but I didn't see me was too.
So I think maybe he's just appealing to the wrong demographic.
Maybe he left a trail of
boxers in his wake. That could be
because
I thought his hands was fucked. I'm a
straight guy but like he's my type.
Like I look at him and I'm like that's a beautiful way.
Definitely. Yeah.
So he can get it.
That's my theory. I also think he's a great actor.
I might be biased
because I think the Warriors is probably
in my top 10. Like I think that's one of the best movies.
I thought he was playing an idiot here
and he did a great job. He did such a good job.
Oh, that's a take. He completely believed him.
Like I thought his delivery
was really flat a lot of times
and I thought it was kind of not fair to put him next to Gene Kelly
who has so much personality
and he just seemed like...
Yeah, that was a little...
If I were going to go on a date
with another him or Gene Kelly, I think I'd pick Gene Kelly.
Fair enough.
To be fair,
he was accepted into like a prestigious
London acting school
and was a renowned actor.
Like he did a lot of stage work.
So to be fair, you're wrong.
I mean...
I'm saying he's a well-trained
actor who many people find to be very talented.
I thought he was
great in this movie and that's I think what I love about
Xanadu is
it's insane in everything I see in Xanadu.
I'm like, I bet 50 different people
would interpret this like 25 different ways.
It's so weird.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm always trying to
pick it apart and find what the problems are
that like made it so such a failure
and I kind of just landed on him at some point.
I was like, if you replaced him with like Steve Gutenberg,
I feel like it would be
a better movie.
Whoa.
That's a savage burn.
That's not cool.
That's a cute face.
He looks sweet like an artist
and this guy just wasn't selling it to me.
That's really funny.
I'm rethinking it. I think you might be right.
So much that I think what did work
about the movie is the tone.
It really felt like a horror movie to me.
Yeah, that's how I have it too.
She was about to drop.
And part of that is Michael Beck.
There's a scene in here
where his boss is talking to him
and he's supposed to sort of be like this
weird artist and his boss is talking to him
and he kind of gives him like this look
that he's just going to fuck him up.
I'm like, oh, boss, you got to get the fuck out of here.
He's going to kill you.
And there was a lot of scenes
where just weird stuff's happening
and he had this look on his face
like he knew it was coming.
And I was just like, yeah, this is a horror movie.
Also, it's produced by Lawrence Gordon
who he made Die Hard
and Predator and of course, Kevin Spacey's K-Packs.
And it's also
the name of the bad guy from SAW
which comes up first in Google
if you're wondering what kind of legacy
you get from producing Die Hard.
So, yeah, that also
just added like a horror element
and I'm like, wait, Lawrence Gordon,
that's the bad guy from SAW.
I agree on all accounts.
This was a horror movie.
I think it could function as that, yes.
A very brightly colored, kind of like
Midsomer style horror movie.
Yes, it was supposed to trick you
with how fun and upbeat
and colorful it was.
But definitely a horror movie throughout.
And it was the director's first
film feature, so that might have had
something to do with it. He just didn't know how to
set the tone or direct actors.
But after this, he did
almost all documentaries, so I guess
Xanadu turned him off from
exploring the... It is the one story I had.
I was kissed by a muse.
Well, my take was that it turned him off from
the whimsy of imagination.
Xanadu and he's like, okay, that's enough of
for me. I'm just going to fucking
film Walmart employees talking about
union busting from now on.
Oh, man, I can't imagine this being your first
film because there's such a big,
like so many big choreographed scenes
that you have to deal with.
Tightrope walkers and jugglers
and choreographing all that.
Technically, slackrope walkers.
Oh, excuse me.
Our first fight, Liddy.
I love this.
Let's talk about the Xanadu font.
This is the most perfect
post apocalyptic motorcycle
cyborg movie font.
Yeah, it's great. It's kind of got some flash
Gordon to it, too.
It's anything but what
this is. If I saw that font on a
poster in, like, 1985
or something,
I would be like, I know exactly.
That's battle truck.
People classify it as sci-fi,
and I'm like, it's very much not.
It does have, like, a weird UFO intro.
I don't know what
that is, but I think they just
look at that font and are like, oh, it's a sci-fi movie.
Right. There's kind of
a sci-fi element to a couple of the costumes,
but, like, they're full on, like, Greek gods.
It's pure fantasy horror. Yeah.
Unless we're supposed to think that the Greek gods
are aliens or something.
Right.
I don't know. Maybe.
There's a lot of neon. I think the neon throws it.
Yeah, there's lasers. Olivia Newton John travels
by laser a lot. Yeah.
That's sci-fi.
That's just how the Greeks did it.
I have, in my notes,
I sort of have the plot if we want to go through the movie,
like, chronologically and talk about everything.
Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. I'd love to do this then.
So we're opening up on
Michael Beck and he's struggling with his art.
He, it's not conveyed
very well to the viewer that he's
like out of ideas, but he's just sort of
painting everything in many different styles
of art, and he just finally
throws the shit out the window. He's like,
I can't do it. Like,
God, what's the line? He says,
ah, what the hell, guys? Like, me shouldn't dream
anyway. Yeah. He throws it. The first
line of the movie, then he throws the paper out
and that leads to
a mural coming to life
where... They drift
throughout town on the wind. Sure.
These weirdly superimposed scraps of paper.
Like, we couldn't get scraps of paper
to blow. We had no idea how to do that.
We had to green screen it in.
Right. To like, what...
The soundtrack is so bizarre, even in the
non-song parts, that this is like
I have it as spooky bowling music.
Like, if you're going bowling
in Halloween and it's like the 80s,
this is the music they would play.
It's just, it's bizarre.
It's a bizarre vibe that they set right off.
Yes. And we've only had one
line in the movie and already a mural has come to life
with a bunch of like
eight Greek goddesses coming to life.
And, and Liddy, if you think I didn't
notice that one of those muses was
Conan's own Sandy Bergman. You're crazy.
It was? Sandy Bergman. Yes.
No, no. Yeah.
You knew. This was like, this was
the plan the whole time. It was a trap.
I was going to test your knowledge. I was going to show you
up in a minute. I was going to be like, did you know
that was Sandy Bergman?
Oh, I knew. I've been planning this since
you accepted. I think I got
infected with, after we watched the director's
commentary of Conan, I got infected with
their obsession over Sandy Bergman. Because every time
she came on the screen, they're like, oh, look
at Sandy. Oh, God, Sandy.
Oh, the way she moves.
And so, like, I think some of that
just rubbed off on me.
Like, pretty good.
Pretty good moves, I guess. Fantastic
dancer. Is she a dancer?
Is she a savage creep? That's all
they do in that scene is dance. So I'm assuming
she's a dancer. Yeah, she came out and was doing
beautiful pirouettes, I think is what they're called.
She knows how to dance. And yeah,
fantastic dancing. You don't have to be a creep
about it, but she knows how to dance.
Oh, her dancing.
Look at that pirouette.
Look at that move.
Oh, you used to have sex with her.
I thought we would do one without the Arnold impression,
but I was wrong.
No.
Impossible.
So it's almost like too much, like all these
glowing, perfect women spinning
and loving life. And I ask
you both, can any soul withstand
such beauty? Like, can
anyone look upon Xanatou
and remain unchanged?
That's my question to you. They turn into
beams of rainbow roller skating life.
How was this movie a
failure?
I don't know. I literally think it's all about
timing because Disco is on its
way out and this is a Disco
movie, sort of. Oh, it's Disco's.
Fuck, yeah. Even the Rock Elements are Disco.
I was sold the second they all turn into the flash.
It was like the same effect they used
like Tron and the flash. It's like, oh, shit.
Oh, it's real now.
Right off. We got we got Flash Ladies.
And then
the Flash Ladies zooms
into the real world and just starts zipping
around, stops right on my back.
Now she's on roller skates. Yeah, on roller skates.
Because why wouldn't she be?
That's how everyone gets
around in this movie. It's like, there's the
only way you can travel is roller skate.
No notes on that.
Great decision.
She kisses him.
They fall in love in two seconds and then
she just fucking skates away at
laser beam speed. Yeah, she turns
into a laser beam right there and he sees it.
Right in front of him. He watches it go
and it does not occur to him that this is strange
because he is very handsome.
He's so handsome. And he's just like,
yeah, this is what happens to handsome
people like all the time.
You're saying that sarcastically. He is very
handsome. Michael Becky. He is super handsome.
I'm being sincere.
I believe that
this is how handsome people experience
the world. I believe magic happens
to them all the time and they just think like, huh,
all right. I can vouch for that.
This happens all the time. I've been laser beam
kissed six times today.
And you just don't even blink. You just go like,
all right, well, I'm going to the store.
Shrug.
So he's part of an art production studio
that they recreate album covers
much larger for record stores.
What the fuck is that?
I think like date this movie more
than that job that he has.
It's so specific.
It's not paintings. They're photographs.
Why aren't you enlarged?
Did we not have the technology to enlarge
a photograph so we had to pay
like eight people to paint it for like
three days?
I do think that there was a record store
in Venice that did that. So they kind of
had like these posters, but it's like one
very specific store that I would imagine
you would need a guy to do it.
You would need a whole studio to do it.
You would need a whole studio of people
like full time. You would need to spend
like $8,000 per album
that comes out.
Right.
It's the most insane operation. I spent the whole movie
trying to like figure it out. And eventually
like halfway point, they say like,
I enlarge album covers
with paintings to hang in front of a record
store. Just in my notes, I have
what?
I'm a hundred percent sure that was
a studio note or like a note where they showed it
to an audience and the audience was like
really distracted. Like what does he do
for a living? And so they had to add
that scene where he like explained to Gene
Kelly what he does for a living.
Right. What is this fucking art
sweatshop? What is happening?
My take on that is that I think
whoever wrote this movie drove past
that record store and saw like a big
painting of an album and thought,
I wonder who did that?
Must be a whole industry. World they're a part of.
I assume it's an industry
and I'm going to go off that.
Yeah. And they wanted him to have
a job that was art but that was also
soulless in some way. Yes.
That was his boss's thing is like
fuck your art. Don't do art. Art is bad.
Now go paint me an album
without doing any fancy art.
No arts.
No arts when you do this.
Make it look like that art but with no extra art
on top of the first art.
And he can't say anything. If I feel an emotion.
He was like, stop doing such a good
job to the guy.
You're doing too good of a job. Just paint faster
and it wasn't that
good of a job. It looked exactly like
the album cover he was painting.
Yes. But something about it
he could tell. He's like, now you did
a little artistic take on that.
Knock it the fuck off. It's sold in this.
It moves me. You piece of shit.
And so he gets this album cover
with Olivia Newton-John on it.
And so he's like, wait this is that laser beam woman
kissed me earlier. I got to figure this out.
So he goes to the photographer.
It wasn't weird until then. Then he's like, oh,
okay, this is weird. Yeah. He's like,
I got to get to the bottom. But not in a weird way.
Like, I got to figure out what's happening.
Am I going crazy? It's just like, you know,
I got to meet this laser. He just wants to say hi.
Yeah. And so the photographer's like, oh,
here's the thing. This
this lady magically appeared in one of the frames.
He took like a thousand pictures.
Sexy roller skate ghost.
Fucking ghost.
And that's what I'm saying. He's so handsome.
He does not have any questions.
He's like, I conjure women
all the time with my handsomeness. It's just totally normal.
So where is she?
Where's the sexy roller skate ghost?
Yeah, that's his only interest is finding her.
He doesn't care that it's like
creepy that she kissed him
without asking and then like
disappeared and then reappeared in his life.
Like she could be stalking him
and he's just like, I am in love with her.
And you're like, why? That's what I'm saying.
Very sinister. Yeah.
Very sinister vibe. The cameraman especially,
his delivery is very much like,
I don't know where she came from.
I'm worried.
My worldview is shaken and I am afraid.
And he's like, cool. Do you have her number?
He's like, no, this is,
I think she's from space or something.
He's like, groovy, man.
So then the second,
I love here there's a,
for the second time in the movie, someone tries to offer him a woman
like unrelated to their circumstances.
One of the girls he was painting with was like,
hey, you've got to meet my friend.
She's like so horny.
And this guy's like, hey, check out these pictures of my daughters.
And he pulls out like a folding
bunch of photos from his wallet.
That is so weird. Offers them to Sonny.
And he's like, yeah, that's great.
That's what he says. He's like, that's great in leaves.
And the guy's like, yeah, man, he's going to fuck one of these.
Just like, fuck my friends and family.
Sonny, my God.
Anything.
If like, if the people
specifically can have sex with them, they just want to be involved
in his sex life somehow.
He sees Olivia Newton-John
on Venice and he chases after her.
He steals a bike from two hot girls
and they're like, yeah, fuck yeah, you can have a free motorcycle.
As long as you bring it back yourself
is what they say, which I'm like, how would he get it back to you
without bringing it himself?
Yeah, don't hand this off
to someone less handsome.
He meets Gene Kelly playing, just
playing the clarinet, I think.
Yeah, on the beach. Playing the clarinet.
Old people used to do.
And I vote they resume doing it.
And I just want to point this out
because it has one of my favorite exchanges
of like, these are the two lines.
I'm not going to omit anything.
But Gene Kelly says,
boy, oh boy, they sure don't make rocks
like they used to.
And Michael Beck says, you want some popcorn?
Hand of exchange.
And they're best friends forever after that.
That's how they meet and become friends.
That's how they meet.
So Olivia Newton-John like full on vanishes
and then reappears
to lure him off a pier.
So he drives the motorcycle off the pier
and it's a pretty sweet stuff.
He completely destroys it.
Yeah, fuck your motorcycle hot girls.
He does like a 720 into the ocean.
Gene Kelly takes him for coffee
and my note here is
the charm on these two.
How did this movie fail?
Watching Michael Beck and Gene Kelly have coffee,
I'm like, this movie is a delight
and I love it.
It's so great that you forget
that he just stole a motorcycle
and destroyed it and then walked away
without a single thought as to what happens next.
Walked out of the ocean on a date with Gene Kelly.
This is handsome life.
This is life when you're very handsome.
It's just, hell, workout.
Let's go get some coffee.
He guts outside and some dude in a van
is like, hey, where are you going?
And the guy goes, ah, shit, I'm going east.
I'll take you anyway.
So when Marty McFly's on his roller skates
on the back of the van.
Skitches on roller skates.
That's the scariest fucking thing I've ever heard.
It's dangerous enough on like skateboards
but on roller skates specifically
that are not built to go more than
like eight miles an hour.
And he says to the guy, don't forget I'm back here.
Like he's worried about
him just getting on the highway
or something, I guess.
Or taking a sweet jump.
He doesn't know what this guy's going to do.
So he sees
the abandoned theater
from the album cover
and he's like, oh shit, this is that thing
from the album. Bye.
And he just lets go of the van.
The other guy's like, okay, I'll abandon you here.
And he walks in and there's Olivia Newton-John
roller skating alone in the dark.
I think.
I would like to point out that in all of these scenes
he is now wearing his roller skates around his neck
and even show it, he is walking through
a condemned building in his socks
because he's so handsome.
It's true.
When you're that handsome
the world leaves your feet alone.
Skating through life.
Just skating through life.
Speaking of that's like
Olivia Newton-John is like
full on like pixie sprite just
whimsically fucking with him. He's like, hey, who are you?
And she's like, oh, who's anybody?
Like just won't answer any questions.
Fucking inferior.
This is the original manic pixie
dream girl. Absolutely.
She doesn't have any
personality at all
ever through the whole movie and that guy just
relentlessly is in love with her and she does nothing.
I bet she has 20 lines
in this movie. All she does is sing.
No personality.
When he beats her she's roller skating
sexually to herself in a condemned building.
That's all the personality you need.
It is dangerous to have more.
He still has no
like care in the world.
He does not think this is anything.
He doesn't think it's a supernatural thing.
He doesn't think it's a grift.
He's going to be murdered by this strange woman.
Yeah.
Has he never seen a movie?
But things are just
fucking easy when you're this handsome.
He's just like, you come to this abandoned
warehouse a lot. You weren't going to date.
And she's like, no.
No.
What's a date, Giggle?
Get out of my warehouse.
He goes back
his boss's name, Simpson,
which I love because he keeps saying, oh, I got to
paint these Simpsons albums,
which is really funny to me because it just
changed context. Yeah, it changed the context a
lot. I just want to say it here because
I'm going to be praising them throughout
novelty swipes.
The novelty swipes are so on point.
Oh, you're right.
This one is like blinds closing.
They swipe away.
It's so good. Yeah, it's like home improvement.
Or like when someone,
when you're a kid and you first get access to
like an editing software
and you're just kind of experimenting with all
of them, they're like, we're going to use every single
one in this movie.
You're like star wipe, dazzle wipe.
Yeah, they're like breaking the
shapes and then the shapes will shoot off.
It's
no normal way to end a scene. It's so good.
How did this movie fail is the point.
So his boss
is complaining that his art is too good again
for probably the third time already. Like it's
still early in the movie and he's given him
that warrior's attitude where I was like,
this is where the boss is going to get fucked
up. Like you're bringing the wrong attitude
to the wrong movie, Michael Beck,
but somehow still works.
His boss really
is just a dick for no reason.
And he lays out sort of the theme
of what
seems like could be a movie, but is not
this movie, which is how art is totally
stupid and capitalism is better.
And it feels like, okay, this is
the theme, right? No, it's
totally ready. No, nobody argues that.
I mean, he doesn't like it, but nobody
argues it. There is literally
no antagonist in this movie.
A couple of bumps here and there, like this, this is
a complication that he knows a guy who doesn't
like art, but it has no effect on his life.
Yeah, you're right.
It is strange, right?
He gets yelled at a bunch, but he's never fired
for it or anything. He's just...
There should be an act, too, where like everything
goes wrong, like the club is
about to fail or whatever. We'll get into that.
Just a bunch of stuff just keeps happening.
I think that's what I like about it.
I tend to like movies where not much
happens and it just kind of looks good.
Like, I like Sofia Coppola movies a
lot, so that makes sense why this
appeals to me more now.
Yeah, it's just a lot of pleasant stuff
happening in a row.
And all the annoying
stuff just washes right off, has no effect
on the plot. So now
Gene Kelly, a charming bachelor,
takes this hunky boy home
and they listen to some records.
That's the whole thing. He just comes out of the
record store and...
For 15 seconds.
15 seconds of a record and then says,
Hey, see you later.
Well, they also show you that he's very rich
and his house is super nice and looks like a
cheesecake factory.
That's true. It is
opulent and old-timey.
And it has like a real sweet, innocent tone
that my bonner brain just cannot process.
Like it... 100% right here
in my notes says it just...
a shoe is going to drop any second.
This motherfucker's going to hiss,
no put on the mask and take off your pants.
Or he's going to like hand him a drink and black out.
It's not him that's
like the horror think because he reveals
that like he had the same muse,
not like another muse, but the same woman
and he recognizes her
as this woman that
inspired and abandoned him to like
not necessarily ruin his life because he's rich now,
but it ruined his artistic life
and like ate his inspiration
and left him and just kind of
left of destitute and the guy,
he's just so handsome, he can't pick it up. It's like, yeah, all right.
Cool. Sounds good, man.
Yeah, sounds like it happened to you,
but like...
Sorry you lost all your artistic inspiration.
I was just going to say that Gene Kelly seems so happy
and again,
in a way that I don't trust,
but I think that's just me not
like the artistic intent.
Like I think he's meant to be
like happy and content
and he's obviously very wealthy
and relaxed. Anyway...
No, it's a weird vibe. This is the setup
stage of a horror movie.
Like when everything's a little too idyllic and you just...
you know something's coming,
you know what movie you're watching now.
Right.
And that's my point.
I think I was expecting him to wake up
with like an asshole son to his face,
but instead he just like leaves
and the camera lingers on Gene
and here's where it gets really strange to me.
Hold on because it's important to the plot.
He first asks him, for no reason,
he asks this just handsome man
who he met on a rock and likes popcorn.
Do you want to be my business partner
and my realtor and find me
a musical venue because I want to get back
his business partner then?
He asks him to find a space
and then once they find the space, yeah.
Yeah.
Will you be my realtor handsome man
who likes popcorn?
Because he's got a good eye.
He's got a good eye.
I like that...
I like movies that don't give a shit.
They know that they need to have these two characters together
and sort of building a club together
and they're like, I guess we don't really care
how or why.
We don't need to connect these dots so much.
Fuck it.
And so I'm fine with that.
But here's where
the movie gets weird for me where
Gene Kelly starts talking to the record player
and he's kind of doing a weird little thing
and they're like, oh, he's crazy, that's it.
It's very like American Psycho where he's explaining
Huey Lewis, it has that kind of a vibe.
And then he sits down and starts reliving
a memory of him performing with Olivia Newton-John
at like an old USO show
and it is...
He fucking air flutes
to his parts.
It is the tiniest micron
from like a really well-made horror scene.
Like it's just almost
almost there.
But no, it just turns into
a tap-dancing number.
It's a great volume element.
He gets this...
To join it, he gets this like horrified
distant look in his eyes
and he freezes for a second
and jumps to his feet like he's like pulled.
It's just there's something weird
and supernatural in that moment, is what I'm saying.
And then he like
goes into this tap-dance number
with the memory or
ghost of
this muse woman.
Yes, and I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with him.
I'm like, is he a tragic figure?
Is he like a lonely has-been? Is he a killer?
What is... What's happening?
No reason. They just need a tap-dancing number.
You don't speak musical.
That's the issue.
In a musical, when people are having
strong internal feelings, it becomes
an external dance number.
So that's what that is.
Reliving it and we're going into his memory
with him and he's doing a tap-dance, which is killer.
And I can't believe how good
he is at dancing still at whatever age.
Is he like 70 in this?
Yeah.
At like 70, he's still
a killer tap dancer.
But yeah, I think that's...
I agree. I agree completely.
Yeah, totally adorable.
Not for me, but like
I wouldn't use the word riveted, but I
wasn't bored like I generally would be
during a tap-dance routine. I was like this
this is... I'm on board with him
top notch whatever this is.
The ghost in the spirit plane?
Sure.
I'm not qualified to rate it,
but I give it a 9 and a 10.
So Sonny
goes back to the art studio to paint
and when I say paint, he takes
dry brush and rubs it against leaving
Newton-John's hair for a couple of times.
But she's there somehow inside the studio.
Again, doesn't give a shit.
Fuckin' ninjas out of the shadows in a
clothed studio after hours
and he has no questions because he's
too handsome.
And she's wearing the most bizarre outfit ever,
which she wears for a lot of the movie, which is
kind of a cloth diaper
and her dress is cut so high
that you can see it, but it's the same
color and everything as her dress.
So it's part of the dress,
but it's like her underwear and you can see it and her butt.
Right.
If you put any of this, any of these
actions or outfits on a not-beautiful
woman, you are like, this is a fucking
crazy person. I need to get away.
Yeah, it's a homeless woman's like
weird reg.
Like makeshift clothing.
I wrote apron diaper combo because
the dress kind of has an apron vibe.
That's a good way to describe it.
I think they might have been going for like a
Toga element.
But again, but you're closer with an
apron diaper. It's like it was a madman's
take on a Toga.
And then so they put on the roller skates
and they go, this is a painting studio, but
they do have like a cyber booth in the
center of a poorly explained like X-Men
Danger Room.
It's a fucking submarine bro.
Shit.
They have a little station to plug
your psychic powers in.
They have like props to send from the
ceiling and there's like simulated
environments on all the walls.
And he explains it all by saying, yeah,
no, go ahead. Yeah, bands play here
and they like they use this for inspiration.
Yeah, he said for inspiration and I'm
like, so what someone's going to come
and like sit in a desert set and think
that's the idea.
And here's the thing, Liddy, I don't
watch musicals much, but I do know that
if they were just to go into a room in a
painting studio and all of a sudden the
different environments, I'm not like,
what the fuck is happening? But they're trying
to like say, this is a room that actually
does that in the painting studio
to inspire bands. And I'm like, that's
what makes it crazy to me.
They didn't need that explanation.
They should have, it should have just been
there like skating around this big
empty room and imagining
all of these places like that would have been
way more normal.
And it's a full
roller skate dance number with
no good tricks. Like
there's just like neither one of them are
competent. Competent is strong enough
for it. They can roller skate. They do
fly for a moment. They do fly a little.
They jump and then they just unexplainably
fly. And again, no
questions.
Sometimes they fly. It's great.
Their tricks are like going up a
small ramp and then coming back down
gently. And then, yeah,
the CGI, well, I guess
not CGI, but however they made them
float.
And you can tell
like in a
movie like this, you don't normally see
performing, right? Like you can't ever tell
when someone's acting in like a big feature
film. But Michael Beck is
concentrating real fucking hard on roller
skating. Like it's really funny
to me.
They have a big giant fake train
in this painting studio. It's really
inspiring to the bands to sit on a park
bench about to be hit by a train.
What the fuck was that said?
That was the weirdest one for me. I was like, how is a big train
just the front of it
inspiring? That doesn't make any sense.
Well, they sit, they sit on a park bench
and the background is dark and then
a prop of a train comes
out of the dark and it starts firing mist.
You're like, why would you have
a park bench that gets hit by a train
to inspire your bands?
I don't.
That's where the train
comes from. They were at that
studio. Oh my god, that's it.
That's where the band
got hit by a train on the bench comes from
too.
It's madness.
Again, this film is the work
of mad men.
They go to a theater, the
theater, the abandoned ones.
Where she nests.
My notes here, they say they're
really, really intimate, but not
two people that are about to fuck.
They talk like they're an old couple who
settled into being best friends.
They hug and they, but they don't kiss.
It unnerved me that
they still haven't fucked.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I think that was in her contract.
They kiss once in a while, but she always turns away.
No, I don't like it.
Again, he doesn't have any questions.
Well, you're probably going to like it later though.
Cool, don't worry about it. I feel like
if you're on a fifth date with someone
you have this much chemistry and you go to kiss them,
they're like, oh no, I can't kiss you.
Are you like married or something?
Yeah. I guess he does that later in the movie.
Wait, are you a monster? Are you a great monster?
Yeah, I knew this was a fucking
grift. You're going to drop like a briefcase
of money any second.
Are you going to eat the logic center of my brain
and make it so I don't have ideas anymore?
Because that's what you did to that last guy.
I thought that was a little weird.
That was kind of a red flag, kind of.
Yeah, kind of a red flag.
So they
show the place to Gene Kelly
and Gene Kelly's imagination
immediately conjures the bandstand.
Now, Michael Beck imagines
a rock band and Gene imagines
the bandstand and Michael Beck imagines
the rock band and I have here Michael Screams
six guys wearing electric
orange synthesizer, heavy percussion
electric guitar
and that was
amazing to me.
They had the rock band that they invented
has never existed. It's like
it's like somebody that was deep
into disco and had never heard of rock
and roll had been explained rock and roll
and they're like, this is what it looks like, right?
Well, I think that's electric light orchestra,
isn't it? And I think that part of the reason
that seems so weird. I think I just explained
electric light orchestra.
Because he has to describe
he's supposed to be describing a generic
rock band, but he is not
at all. He's describing electric light orchestra.
Yeah, there's only one of those.
Yeah, there's only one of those.
Not every rock band wears bright orange
absuits, my friend.
Right. Like eight synthesizers.
It doesn't happen.
I would argue that this scene
sucks pretty
hard. Oh my God, this is my favorite
scene in the movie.
What are you doing? Okay, let me give you,
let me give you, if this was on America's Got Talent
I think it would go through, but the judges would have
notes. First of all, the band
stand part is fine and the rock
band part is a little silly,
but like they clash so hard, it's like
they play one and then it's like someone hits stop
and then hit play on an unrelated
tape.
Until the end.
For sure. Then they mix like in the last
10 seconds of it.
They were from different worlds and you
think that they're going to fight. They're going to fight it out
when they see each other and start moving towards each other.
But then they like fall in love
and they kind of dance together, which is
Lydia, correct me if I'm wrong.
That's how you say fucking in music.
Yes, that's them fucking.
And this stage like kind of
sexually clicks together so that it's all
one stage.
Right, I understand what they're trying
to do and what they,
I'm saying the execution was very poor.
Did anybody else
notice that they invented Billy
Idol and Cisco and the rock dancers?
I
definitely saw a Billy Idol.
An exact identical vibe to Billy
Idol and Cisco.
I did not find Cisco.
I don't agree with that.
To me, this felt like someone trying to represent
two very different musical themes 20 years
away from their understanding in each
direction. So it was like someone who
really knew 60s music, trying to do 80s
music and 40s music. And you didn't like
getting it.
You did not like that.
I thought it was a failure for what I was
trying to do, but if I'm trying to pick
the moment of this movie that's closest to my
interests, which is like
hilarious failure, that's where
I think Xanadu shines.
Did you perhaps miss when
a woman leaps into one of the dancers' arms
and he plays her like a guitar?
Did you miss that one?
I also like when the woman
Yes, that's the one I like.
I love that part. That's really funny.
And then they pretended to turn knobs as if
he was making music with her.
I was like, okay, that's
fucking crazy.
When I'm watching this movie, all I'm doing
is waiting for this scene to happen and then
it's over. I'm a little bit sad
until the clothing montage,
which is my second favorite part.
Yes, that is fucking amazing.
So
okay, I'm glad we have
I honestly think everyone's take on Xanadu is
going to be very different. And that's maybe
what I love about this movie the most.
And maybe that's why, like, if I was
a film reviewer in 1980, like, I would
have no idea what to fucking give this movie.
Because
I don't know. Anyway, the point is
Gene Kelly loves this idea
and he's like, okay. Which he announces by
saying, I love it.
So he's been standing
in this empty
room just imagining rock bands
fighting big bands. And then after like 20
minutes, he just goes, I love it.
I'm on board. Michael Beck
knew too, like he was sharing the same delusion.
That's what's
great about this
movie is it takes a musical and it says what
if all of it was literally happening
and
that's what we get.
So here's the guy he met on the beach, Gene Kelly
met this guy on the beach who's putting no money into this
and he's like, you're a 50-50 partner, kid.
And
in that scene where they figure that out
too is we got to say like 10 minutes
long, right? It's like
two full music videos long.
Easily.
To which he has to explain
after which he has to explain what a partner is
to the very handsome man.
I'll tell you what a partner is and he says
it's like being married without the good part.
Oh, God, that was so creepy.
Run away. That's a crime.
This man wants to do crimes to you.
He like winks at him after he says that
and I'm like, does that mean...
He doesn't get it. He's too handsome to get it.
He should have made it clear he was not
like trying to get with him
earlier in the movie. Like if you meet a guy on the beach
he's like, let's get a cup of coffee
come back to my place. You're like, oh, sir.
Yeah, I don't know. That's not for me.
I know I see what you're doing and that's
very nice, but no.
But yeah, he just didn't get it.
He's like, yeah, everyone tries to fuck me.
Especially the Gene Kelly. This is my life.
Yeah, it's my whole life. So Kira's ghost,
Living Newton John's ghost appears and
she's like starting to say a
poem about Kubla Khan's
Pleasure Palace.
Yeah, Kubla Khan by Coleridge.
And
Gene Kelly knows it.
So
she reads the part with Xanadu,
which is how she gets the name Xanadu.
So this is how she inspires. She just shows up
and says, hey, it's called Xanadu.
He's like, oh, all right.
Xanadu, like that poem. Yeah.
And this is where
I feel it is clinched
that this is a horror movie because again,
she comes out of nowhere. Nobody,
they didn't bring her here. She just shows up
because again, this is where she nests and
she starts reading Kubla Khan, which is
not just about like a bitch in place.
That's it. It's
obviously open to interpretation, but
here's how that poem ends.
I'm going to read you some poetry.
You did not think was it going to happen in this podcast.
I knew the whole time.
Oh.
That's the poem she started reading to him.
Yeah. She is the saying right here.
Hey, remember that I'm beautiful
and everything's beautiful, but I'm also
a monster. I'm a terrible monster
and I'm going to kill you.
It's a horrible indictment of Xanadu.
And then she's like, you should name this place Xanadu.
Yeah. I love it.
That's what's going to happen to you.
So we're 52 minutes and we finally
found out this is a fucking movie about opening
a club like we now have a plot.
So the roller ghost
is helping him open a club
with her magic powers.
She's clearly
causing this to happen with her magic powers
and it's her like duty
as a cosmic being.
So
Michael Beck fires himself from his
poster production company
and he finally kisses Olivia Newton
John and she stops him
and he's like, okay, cool.
No big deal and they get back to casual
conversation, but then they turn into
cartoons.
Well, before that he starts actually asking
questions possibly for the first time in his life
and you can see it hurts him.
He's like, okay, but what's your name?
Okay, but where do you
live? What do you do?
She says on the second floor.
She says she lives on the second floor.
The sketchiest answers.
Just every red flag and he's like, okay.
Yeah, but then they become fish.
So you know that it went well.
Yeah, then she kisses him and they turn
into a cartoon.
And this is really good animation.
Like, aside from all this being insane,
it is wonderfully produced movie.
By passionate artists
there should have been an audience for.
It had no reason to fail.
It is so much better than like Mama Mia
or Les Miserables.
Am I saying that right?
And it fully less miserables.
Right. It fully tears the head off
of fucking Dear Evan Hansen
and steals his husband. Like, everyone who made
Dear Evan Hansen should write a suicide note
that says we should have and could have
rebooted Xanadu.
As far as I can tell, this movie is a masterpiece
of the genre is my point.
And yet after this, it killed
movie musicals, apparently until Mulan
Rouge.
Right. Oh, again, another tie-in
because Red Sonya killed
fantasy movies for
just, God, Lydia, this was
such a masterful play.
It's perfect. It's absolutely the girl Conan.
I think that's true.
I like
that the entire animated sequence,
the entire cartoon sequence where they
shrunk down and danced through a forest and everything
and they turned into all of these creatures.
And the one thread was that all of the
the boy creatures wanted to fuck the girl creatures
and all the girl creatures did not want to
be fucked. And then it ended.
That's real. Nothing was resolved or
changed when they came out of it.
This was just, she told him through animation,
stop trying to fuck me.
And he was like, all right, see you later.
He was like, firm. No, I'm
still going to try.
He's getting some mixed signals, though.
I mean, let's be fair to poor Michael
Beck. He does.
He's getting some whiplash because
I mean, you can only
laser roller skate someone like
while you fall in love for so long before
they're like, I think this person might want to kiss me.
Is my point.
But if you say firmly no through
an animated sequence, you have to respect that.
Yeah, I get it.
It's just hard to understand where
they're coming from. It's like they must have taken
like a vow of chastity on their face.
Like it's a very strange.
Yeah, it's hard to understand because she has
no personality. You know nothing about
her. You don't even know
her name for so long into this
movie, I feel like.
Right. Except that she's in his life every
moment on his lap. Every time he sits down,
like this woman's completely
in love with him, but can't kiss.
So anyway, very
confusing poor Michael Beck.
The rest of his life is really easy, though. I should
assure you that being handsome. He's got
no troubles except this one.
So they go to the
construction site and they're weak into building
it. Things are going great. They're having
champagne. Even the foreman's like,
you're really building a dream here.
Like they're just it's such a pleasant
movie.
They start fantasizing about what Gene Kelly should wear
on opening night. And here's where we get to
they say he needs
it's got to be slang. They say you need a suit,
man. A glitz.
He asks a glitz. Where do I get a glitz?
And they say you get it from a franchise
glitz dealer. Yes.
Yeah, what what the fuck's that?
The franchise glitz dealer line has always
confused me.
I can't even
imagine what that is. I'm sure I could now google
it and somebody would say like, oh, that's what
they used to call stores. Why did they call stores
franchise glitz?
Well, I kind of wondered if like franchises were
new. So like it being a franchise would make it
like super fancy.
It's probably like
a glitz dealer.
It's probably like code.
It's probably like casual sex code or
something. I don't know. It's like that's your
heroin dealer. Your franchise glitz dealer is
like where you get your heroin.
That sounds right. Yeah, I think
I'm going to make a use for franchise
glitz dealer now.
That's what I'm going to. I'm just going to call
my drug dealer that and see if he shoots
me. And if he doesn't, then it's
cool.
Yeah, good plan. I'm sure
I'm sure we all love the musical montage
that they go there. That's so good.
Sassy mannequins come to life and then
Gene Kelly tries on outfits
each one slightly different
than the last and he does like a little dance
for each outfit. Yeah, just
a little bit. Some of them exactly the same as previous
dances, but many of them different.
He's 70. Give him a break.
And one of them he fucking pulls out
in a Rolls Royce and comes out in cowboy
tassels on roller skates. And that's when
like pure fringe white sequined cowboy.
And everybody's like, yeah, this is
just changing. Yeah, this is the changing
sequence. And that's the one everybody's
like, yeah, that's fucking it.
And it feels like we're done, right?
But no, they invented this whole
musical montage. Like before this, I don't
think this existed. And then they shattered
the template in the middle of it,
because after they decide on the outfit,
they keep going. He comes out in like several
more. And I don't
I don't care for this art. I'm a little
bit bored. I'm unmoved,
but I'm 100 percent certain this is the best
version of whatever this is, it can be.
There's a spider god crawling
through the legs of spiders. Yeah, he's stalked by
fucking rare beasts. There's a cat woman.
It's like they morph into a giant
pinball machine. Well, yeah, obviously the best part
is there's novelty wipe after novelty
wipe. I love when he's playing
the pinball machine and then he's in the pinball
machine. Like in the pinball machine inside
the pinball machine and he's just happily
punching the pinball
stuff. Oh, he's having so much fun.
There's hat magic. There's laser
hat magic. There's a woman that comes
out of a clothes rack and just starts
doing these isolated pelvic thrusts
and they linger on her for like
solid 10 seconds. And then
like a mostly naked hot lady
comes out and just sort of just rides
for the camera while they purve out in her body.
I'm like, this has something for everybody.
Truly. Can we all agree
that this is madness because I believe
that's what this represents. I think
the consequence because the Greek
no Greek mythology
creature is ever like
fully okay. They always have
something kind of monstrous. I think the
muse drives you to madness
and I think that's what this dance
sequence is. Like that's like
she's starting to eat his brain a little bit
and he's going crazy. They're being consumed by Xanadu
and this is that's like as they're building it
they're being consumed by it and that's what
this scene represents.
Because this is the turn of the movie where it was
one movie for a long time and then after this
it's a whole different movie.
I mean it's much danceier and that's for sure.
And
I like you three because when it pulls out from
this scene it's just Olivia Newton-John and
Michael Beck slow dancing to
the musicless sound of Gene Kelly's business
like they're just like face to face
fully in love.
Well he's just like yeah I need the parts
of my tomorrow. No music.
And everyone's like admiring them
for it and not being like what's up
with those two.
They don't kiss but god damn
but I've never seen anyone so in love. That eye contact
that is her eating the logic centers of
his brain.
Devouring him.
So Gene Kelly's
nervous about opening up the club. Like he gets
alone with Olivia Newton-John and he's like
Olivia's like you know what you need to do is pretend it's
1945 again the last time you opened up a club
and he goes I don't have to pretend
it is 1945
all over again
with like a real menacing tone
and I'm still thinking something terrible is about
to happen. Cause he's saying I fucking know
I know it's you I know what you're doing
you're not going to take this one
you're not going to take it like you took me.
She's just like yeah you got me
She leans over
and says it is 1945
again.
Like what the fuck is that?
She could just take time from him.
She's like I can throw more than you could possibly
imagine.
I could make you into a fucking zygote.
So then it cuts to
her and Michael Beck and
they say I love you to each other
but she still won't kiss him and then
she reveals that she's not allowed to love
and just basically lays it out like I'm a
fucking muse like from
the stories there's a pantheon of magical
beings yes my dad is there
I live on Mount not Olympus they had some other name
for it. She says she's there
specifically to make Xana do happen
Yes
they just to make a fucking nightclub
open up. It seems really strange
and like especially since he's a painter
you would think that she would be there to inspire
him to make a great painting or something right
but she's actually there to get him to like
basically give up on his dreams
to do this other thing
yeah she does not inspire him
in any way she shows up
and says he doesn't even want
he doesn't pick the theater he doesn't want to pick the theater
she just says no you're doing it
you're picking that theater he's like no no I don't know
no that's it
and then she names it and then she picks
his partner it's just
it's very strange
she tells him to look up muse in the dictionary
and it has a message for him
so now she's revealing that she's got full on like
science powers like she has the TV come to life
and the characters on the TV are talking to him
and this is not
regular musical rules so I think
that everyone else watching TV at that time
was having was seeing this
and being like what the fuck happened to my old movie
I agree and
right and then she says she's not allowed to love him
it's so hard to understand here and it just doesn't happen
you can really see him
I mean he just doesn't care
he's like I'm a mythical creature and he's like
do you still want to make out?
I'm into it
and I'm really handsome so like
it's good
basically handsome pretty much so I think that we're a great couple
I don't see why they can't make it work
they both scream I'll love you forever while
she turns into a laser and leaves
it seems like if that's not loves what it is
and no reason for her to leave at that moment
either because Zanadu hasn't opened yet
so
she just decides to pop out I guess
I just love his look
after she mews beams out of there
he's just kind of a huh
look like huh
alright okay I get
huh yeah I happen sometimes
it's Taylor Watt in her face I feel like he has real
Taylor Watt in her face
yeah that's kind of mean but I agree
so Gene Kelly finds him
on the beach like Gene Kelly is literally
searching all of Venice for him
in his suits just walking through the sand
like I know he's out on one of these rocks and he was
he explains that
dreams don't die
we kill them
which maybe is the theme of this movie
I still can't find the theme
which again maybe is why this movie failed
because it breaks every rule of storytelling
and film structure
I think that's a good thing so that's what they
intended to be the theme of the movie
maybe
so Gene Kelly tells him to find his girl
like hey go to Matt Zerklaun
where the fuck there's gotta be a way to get there
and that's when he goes over to the
mural where she lives well he doesn't
go to it he just finds it
during his like angry roller skating
that looks a lot like her and is like
that she must live in this mural
and so instead of I'm like
okay I kind of got
that he was immediately going to loony tunes into the wall
but I thought it would be better if he painted
himself on there
I think that logically would have made more sense
that makes a lot more sense
would have been great
instead he roller skates out for like
100 feet of build up
and just face first
no second guess is
right into the wall and like of course
he goes through the wall but how amazing
would this movie be if he didn't
if he just fucking bashes
his head into the wall and then the movie's over
yeah he just privately decides
that it's platform 9 and 3 fourth rules
where you have to go into it as hard as possible
you can't just like touch it and try and
gently ease in
yeah it's back to the future rules
anything less than 30 miles an hour
you bounce right off the portal
it is a very handsome solution
very handsome solution
just bold insanity
straight ahead with full power
that works out
so he's in Xanadu and she's happy to see him but like
she's like dude what the fuck are you doing here
it's just a land of nothing
it's just lasers in Olivia Newton-John
which again, paradise
but like
he's stuck in like a little
prison like a little like
Krypton prison cell
laser prison
what's great about Michael Beck is
he's a great actor but he was not trained
in Mime so when he's trying to like say
oh I can't get out of the prison it's the most
pathetic
entry level like oh gosh
I'm stuck like he's making fun of the
process of acting which is very funny to me
and then he calls out
Zeus who's a total dick
he's like
wait could I say his line when he calls out Zeus
oh please do
it's just
hey Zeus
that's it
well and then Charlie says Zeus shows up
and he's like we don't use those dated names anymore
and it's like
okay what am I supposed to call you
fucking come down here
Zeus
fucking Dr. Goodfellow from Buck Rogers
that's actually the actor
oh really
so they do a bit where
Zeus and Hera who like are fully omnipotent
and they know everything they watch the earth
they run a dream granting organization
they don't know what feelings are
he's like we feel love for each other and they're like what
what's feelings
you're like what are they fucking like robots now
it's fucking so weird
they make a joke about how they learned
about feelings in mortal class
yeah
oh now it's a comedy what the fuck
is happening here
so they send him back to earth
and Kira living in
John is left alone to sing a sad
song motionless in a land of lasers
and I would argue about how
sad she is that she didn't get to
eat a beautiful man it's great
it
it's so bad I think
objectively it's the first dud of the movie
like there's just nothing you can get from this other than
crushing boredom but it does work on
Zeus maybe Lady
do you like this song
in the beginning of the movie if you know
like EL it says
music by electric light orchestra
and then after it it says
Olivia Newton John's music by someone else
and you can tell
that she had someone else write this song
for her
right and they really wanted you to know
they were like no no no
don't put this on me don't say music by EL
yeah that's not cool
and so
but yeah
it sucks to us but Zeus loved it
is I guess what we're getting at
and so he's like okay I will let you go back
to earth and fall in love with
Michael Beck maybe
well he says she can go
forever or for a moment
but he can't remember he keeps getting
those two mixed up so it's
possible that this movie actually
doesn't have a happy ending
I do have a take
on that but before I want to talk
me too and I think we're going in the same place
I have to get there
Xanadu's opening is very strange
to me because I think they opened a roller rink
I don't think this is a nightclub
I think this is a roller rink
it's just a big circular thing with
kind of a bar on the side
it's a disco roller rink
hedonism palace is what I have done
yeah okay but it's definitely not a normal
nightclub
it's all roller rink for sure but there are also
normal people wandering in and out
of the roller rink to get killed
are you assuming
such a bad idea
so they just sort of roller skating numbers
there's a big crowd of people going in two different directions
there's karate roller skates just
for a moment just so the
filmmakers let us know they thought up
karate roller skaters
also hey there are we
opened this scene with a band
of juggling mimes forming a gauntlet
and that's how you have to get into Xanadu
you have to run between the juggling mime gauntlet
I think
I think the mimes are just for that opening
like I think that
they won't be there every night
just a special occasion
you bring up a good point though
that there's a lot
of performers I don't think there's a customer here
this is opening night I can't I could not
spot a single person that would
be a customer
everyone there was like a drumline
roller dancer or
you know some sort of a performer
to this weirdly like
militaristic song
and then they're punching in unison
and doing key eyes in unison
for a while it's just it's like
turned into cult training somehow
if I watched into this building
I would know that in this world there are no
rules or laws and that everyone here was already
dead like I would know
instantly I could do anything I wanted
inside of Xanadu and I think that's what they're going for
yeah that's definitely the vibe they hired a whole
circus
or like piecing it out
and having them do their little acts in pieces
all over the room
while everyone else were roller skates around them
yeah it's just
it's pure chaos this is how I would define
chaos like if you told me
if you gave me a massive budget
and a lot of time and you were like I need you to visually
define chaos for me like the concept
I would do exactly this moment
and I would put you in the middle of it and you'd be like yes
this is I need 120 pairs
of roller skates and one traveling circus
and
and so they're all doing all this stuff
roller skating jumping
this is Olivia Newton-John at the peak of her greatness
she comes out and performs
the titular song it's beautiful and transcendent
this
this is a dream realized for hundreds of dancers
and sideshow performers this movie
is huge and every person
in this knows it's the greatest thing
they'll ever do or maybe that will ever be
like so much
went into this scene
and I love the big zoom out
from her and there's just a girl spinning
like rapidly on a harness
from her teeth but there's only
one it's not like
part of the whole vibe
she's just fucking she brought this harness
from home and it's like I'm gonna fucking spin
as fast as I can in this nightclub
and she's right at the front too like weirdly
close to the camera
it's just
pure madness I love it
and then it takes a sexy rock turn
and now living Newton-John's song about
Xanadu turns into a song about how the listener
is a loser
wherever you go you're a loser
fool fool fool fool
but first it cuts to this weird
just for like a minute
it cuts to this weird like lynchian number
where they're all dressed like cigarette girls
it's like this distorted synthesizer
Calliope Circus music
and she like starts to dance for a second
and then it's over
and then it's a rock number
oh my gosh that's weird
that's one part of this movie that I'm like
why did they do a cowboy number
where she's got a cowboy hat and a little fringe jacket on
yeah
she's like Jean Kelly's outfit
we never get to see Jean Kelly
in his fucking cowboy palette
and outfit again but she has
he wears a tuxedo to the opening
so that scene was completely worthless
yeah
it was totally pointless they all agreed on the outfit
and he's like nah fuck it
it's over
so this is like the fourth or fifth full costume
changed by the entire room
and it was so weird to me
that it took me out of the scene and I couldn't help but remember
that this was all set up by ancient gods
who don't understand us or our feelings
and it made me think that this film
was the work of a true madman
like
it's so fucking weird and then another costume
changed for an avant-garde like sci-fi fantasy
featuring actual magic
like they're doing real magic
with people turning into lasers and shit
and then everyone vanishes
except for Michael Beck
and he's just staring at it
empty glowing pedestal
because she has eaten his creativity
I think she ate his brain
I think that's what artistically it's saying
is that they wiped his memory
because the people start trickling back in
just sort of randomly appearing
he sits down with Jean Kelly
and Olivia Newton-John is a cocktail waitress
and he looks at her like he's meeting her for the first time
he's so clear he doesn't like remember
and she pretends not to remember him
and he goes along with it
so either that's a weird crazy game they just agreed on
or like yeah she ate a big part of his brain
because this is a fucking horror movie
I definitely don't mind that interpretation of it
I think it adds a little
an extra layer to the plot
kind of makes it more pleasant
So how did
what do you think happened here at the end, Lydia?
I mean I think so he says
to Zeus and Hera that he wants one more moment
with her
and they say we can give him one more moment
or forever I can't remember which is which
because time is not a concept for them or whatever
and I think
that the ending is supposed to imply that they have sent her back
and he thought it was just for a moment
so when she disappeared at the end of that song
that's why he's sad because he's like
she's gone forever
and then when she comes back
I think it could kind of go either way where like he
she's some girl who looks like the muse
and they're gonna be together now
or it's like her and he's
they're just kind of messing around
and like this is...
But your theory would require there to be a second
Olivia Newton-John and that's impossible, come on
I guess that's true
or a mortal version
of Olivia Newton-John
She would not allow there to be two
one would kill them
Yeah the inner contract, you cannot duplicate me
my power is too much
I think he got, I mean Olivia Newton-John's
great muse to have but he could have had Sandy Bergman
just he threw those papers into
just an angle to the left
just one degree to the left he would have got Sandy Bergman
I bet Sandy Bergman would have won a big painter
Sandy Bergman would fuck
Yeah, she would at least kiss him
and she would let him stay a painter and not make him open a nightclub
So yes!
What a great horror movie
I'm so glad that you watched it
Thank you for forcing that on us
You're so welcome, anytime
It would have happened very appropriate for the theme of Xanadu
to be forced into this
to be tricked and then changed against our will
just well played
And then to lose our memory of it, what are we talking about?
How handsome you are all the time
and what your life is like
Yeah cool, yeah I get that, that's pretty normal thing people say to me
A lot of nice things happen to me
A lot of weird supernatural shit too
I don't have any questions about it
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