The Dogg Zzone by 1900HOTDOG - Dogg Zzone 9000 - Episode 71, Lone Tiger With Josh Barnett!

Episode Date: April 27, 2022

Seanbaby and Brockway are joined by The Warmaster himself, Josh Barnett! We're discussing Lone Tiger, an underground wrestling movie about masked hobo murder. If the accountants ask: yes, we did need ...a UFC champ to dissect this fine piece of cinema. Yes, we do need Mr. T to change the water cooler. They're the only ones for the job!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One nine hundred hot dog. One nine hundred hot dog. Out of podcast slams with maximum hype. Say hot dog podcast word. Yeah. When you taste that nitrate power, You're in the dog zone for an hour. Come on.
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Starting point is 00:00:50 I'm the internet's Sean baby joined by the Omaywa of my Shanderu Robert Brockway. Honored. Here's a Brockway fact. I have never been. Convicted. Of kung fu VHS racketeering. Never convicted.
Starting point is 00:01:04 No follow up questions. Alright. Nice. Like Brockway. Our guest this week. Is an unkillable catch wrestler. Pride fighter. The increased champ.
Starting point is 00:01:15 UFC. Heavyweight champ. A true MMA and grappling legend. Who is now pulling hands off human Spines at GCW BloodScore. It's the war master. Yes. I like it.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I like it and go with it. It is very indicative of how far the mighty have fallen. I love BloodSport. No bullshit. I have some stuff I want to talk about about BloodSport. I love it.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Because you know this but I'm a big fan of yours since the early early pride days. It's mutual. This is really one of the maybe the most esoteric internet mashups
Starting point is 00:01:57 over decades. Internet romance. For real. I was reading SeanBaby.com way back in the probably using Netflix or Netscape Navigator days.
Starting point is 00:02:11 It's designed to look best on Netscape Navigator days. Absolutely. And I remember literally emailing you and I was fucking chatting. Yeah. I loved that.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I was like oh fuck it. Josh Barnett's email. This is normal. Normal day. But yeah dude. I would like 20 years ago I had rent VHS tapes of pancreas and pride TV broadcasts
Starting point is 00:02:31 from an anime store in Portland and Watch Your Old Fights. Like that's how I found pride. There's a specific MMA store. There was a specific. 20 years ago. It was an anime store. It's really like.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yeah. It would just. Yeah. They would take TV broadcasts and everything. And I was like oh it was an anime store. No.
Starting point is 00:02:51 That's way stranger. Well they had a couple of boxes with pictures and I found Sakuraba versus Hoist Gracie. And it was just that fight not the rest of the tournament.
Starting point is 00:03:00 So it's just a 90 minute fight of Sakuraba beating up. Like. I thought what the fuck is this fighting league. Yeah it was great stuff. I remember finding lots of Japanese pro wrestling.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Especially UWF and UWFI stuff and then rings and. The whole gamut and other events that I could get a hold of. Oh and weird Japanese
Starting point is 00:03:22 gore flicks. That was interesting too. Right. At a Japanese VHS shop in the International District in Seattle
Starting point is 00:03:30 as like a teenager. And just being like wow what I don't I can't I can't read anything that's on these box boxes and all the box art but everything about it just makes me want to get really
Starting point is 00:03:40 hard. Now especially 20 years ago. Like definitely MMA it's broken through to as far as it's ever going right now. But 20 years ago
Starting point is 00:03:50 still being an obscure thing. They had to have thought you were murderers the people that ran those stores. Like they just come in and like they're the only market for our violence
Starting point is 00:03:59 section. We just have a violence section. And these white boys come in. Have to find it from overseas. To their credit
Starting point is 00:04:08 I did murder seven people in Portland. You know in Portland there's little levels to that. So there's an acceptable ratio and you know
Starting point is 00:04:18 different like delineations between acceptable and unacceptable murder. So. Oh yeah. Thunder down now. Keep Portland weird. If you take their water
Starting point is 00:04:27 it's justified. Yeah. If you say keep Portland weird and you kill them it's totally legal. Yeah. That's pretty weird. And then I imagine
Starting point is 00:04:35 both me and Sean baby just intensely studying something that they know that we have no idea what we're reading because we can't read it all and then grinning
Starting point is 00:04:43 maliciously about it. Yeah. They were terrified. Yeah. No. But for real though I do want to talk about blood sport
Starting point is 00:04:52 because I think you've made the world of violence a better place. I think I grew up with cartoon Hulkamania which I loved and when I got back into
Starting point is 00:05:00 wrestling in this adult it was the era of like beer foam and thumbtacks and bronze panties matches. So I came to appreciate catch wrestling late in life
Starting point is 00:05:08 completely unrelated to TV broadcasts the poodle rescue or strong style or whatever. People get what I'm talking about. They're serious.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Like a classic before a timeshoot fight. So like I think if you show blood sport to someone in 1985 they would have no idea it was fake. Like every match
Starting point is 00:05:24 it's just two maniacs fucking with full WrestleMania energy just leaving it all there. It's on like like a blood sport platform.
Starting point is 00:05:33 So if the listeners haven't checked it out it's fucking awesome. A lot of people you'd recognize from MMA and pro wrestling and they just go at it.
Starting point is 00:05:43 So I appreciate what you've done. You've done a lot of other kind of pro wrestling league you wanted and you just made it. Well yeah. I mean there are
Starting point is 00:05:52 there are some serious limitations towards developing a shoot style let's say a product which for the non pro wrestling lingo initiated
Starting point is 00:06:02 for a product that isn't that is strictly reality based even if it is worked. And although shoot style also
Starting point is 00:06:11 back in Japan it wasn't always worked. It was straight up fights because they had kind of a coat of conduct where you know they'd say OK well
Starting point is 00:06:20 you got to you're going to let this guy go over or and then the guy might say no and so they come back well he doesn't want to do it will you put him over and
Starting point is 00:06:28 they say no they're like well then fight well then I guess we're fighting today and generally it was sorted out by the gym so as they're training
Starting point is 00:06:36 in their dojo and it's really the classical model is for a pro wrestling promotion to also have a dojo that trains
Starting point is 00:06:45 wrestlers from the ground up to then be a part of the system and also be imparted with the basic structures of what they consider their style
Starting point is 00:06:54 and they would just train in the dojo and whoever was winning in the dojo generally got the pushes because they were the best guy
Starting point is 00:07:02 and with what we're doing with BloodSport I don't have the luxury of having like a fully funded Japanese dojo
Starting point is 00:07:10 full of little like straplings running around shriplings running around like washing us and cooking over
Starting point is 00:07:18 and everything you can't buy like 20 children are you telling me that the children are expensive these days you know with inflation but you need some
Starting point is 00:07:26 some murder interns is what you're looking for so the easiest way you know as if it was ever easy to structure these sort of things
Starting point is 00:07:34 is you have a dojo system and so everybody in there is all getting basically smartened up and trained hard and proper but I've
Starting point is 00:07:42 been really fortunate to find just incredible athletes out there that either have backgrounds or are really earnest about developing the skills and so I've worked with
Starting point is 00:07:50 a bunch of the people that are on the shows and I've been really fortunate with just my ability to go out there and find the right athletes
Starting point is 00:07:59 and they show up gung-ho I have no problems with everyone who comes up there they really give me their all
Starting point is 00:08:07 and I absolutely love it yeah it's the fucking best also interestingly enough there's a lot of people that in this day and age will I'll see the comments
Starting point is 00:08:16 and they'll go oh you know I think they really were fighting at that part for you know maybe this I think they got mad and I just never say
Starting point is 00:08:24 anything I never tell anyone a word because you know what maybe that did happen maybe it did I'm not helping you break the fourth wall in this right like
Starting point is 00:08:32 they could research it if they really wanted to know so what that really is is them saying I wish I wish that that was for real that's such a weird take though
Starting point is 00:08:40 just do it well and you know what the way we operate we'll never say it's never we don't we know that you always want to know
Starting point is 00:08:48 how Copperfield or in our case Doug Henning did the magic trick are we old enough for Doug Henning oh that hurts
Starting point is 00:08:58 that hurts my back yeah D O U G H E N N I N G for those who have no idea we're talking about and once you see them you'll understand but we
Starting point is 00:09:09 we want people to stay immersed as much as possible because it just feels like it's a you know it's better that way like you get more out of it let's see and the comments are saying
Starting point is 00:09:19 I think they're fighting for real that was what I thought was a weird take because everyone seems so happy in Bloodsport like it's obviously violent but it's like oh my god these two guys
Starting point is 00:09:27 respect and love each other so much like that's how I feel when I watch a Bloodsport match yeah I could see that yeah no I mean there is
Starting point is 00:09:35 a high amount of respect across the athletes yeah so I appreciate what you've done creating something so that you saw in your mind's eye
Starting point is 00:09:44 speaking of I always dreamed of a job where I could make fun of Ninja movies with UFC champions and through the power of Will here we are you believed it when you
Starting point is 00:09:52 have achieved it you've come true rainbow you know we were actually going to talk about UFC 2 but figured out a bad topic
Starting point is 00:10:02 for you since you're probably guys and you said that that's actually a real thing so what we're talking about today is a movie
Starting point is 00:10:10 you actually sent to me called Lone Tiger from 1996 a new audience fuck yeah there was so many surprises in store but
Starting point is 00:10:23 we've already hit the big one 1996 for this movie yeah I was just that's not like a re-release date
Starting point is 00:10:31 that's when this came out it is it definitely feels like an 80s movie yeah this is like 82 hard 82 you think so I don't know
Starting point is 00:10:39 I mean I feel like 82 would have had more sincerity because I mean if you watch schlocky early 80s late 70s you know
Starting point is 00:10:47 early 80s is basically backwash of late 70s so yeah you watch these things and you're like this is so utterly
Starting point is 00:10:55 preposterous and you know everybody really believes in it they really thought they were making something oh weird kind of sincerity at times
Starting point is 00:11:03 but I guess it was a little hard behind the tiger mask yeah maybe it was that maybe the stuff guy behind the tiger mask was feeling sincere
Starting point is 00:11:11 at that moment or really horny either or I was yeah I was getting the horny definitely yeah see Robert Zadar
Starting point is 00:11:19 was always sincere so I wouldn't take that away and always horny Richard Lynch was sincerely upset that this is where he ended up
Starting point is 00:11:27 yes bad guy from the barbarians Richard Lynch sword and sorcerer oh fuck yeah invasion USA oh yeah he's also in this movie
Starting point is 00:11:37 with I believe he's in this this Corman flick with John Kerating where it's like post-apocalyptic weird
Starting point is 00:11:45 coped out people in loincloths is that the one where he has the robot hand that can fly no but that's that's a special one what is that
Starting point is 00:11:53 future for us and then there's that sounds right and there's a sequel to it as well yeah I love how he just keeps hitting one button
Starting point is 00:12:01 over and over and over again that's everything it's this movie where he's like on a motorcycle with a crystal sword it's lovely I'm already on board
Starting point is 00:12:15 that's it and he has a remote control for the flying fist but he just keeps hitting one button he never occurred to him that like this is gonna look fucking stupid
Starting point is 00:12:23 but it doesn't it looks great why would you need more than the fist button the fist button that does everything yeah it unlocks the door
Starting point is 00:12:31 on the car just a close up that says fist on the button fist do your own thing fist do your own thing fist that's just what this button
Starting point is 00:12:39 does makes its own decisions the main ninja in this movie the main lone tiger is Robert Lough he's the ninja from RoboCop 3
Starting point is 00:12:47 and that's kind of it he does a lot of video game voices but like that's our cast wait I'm forgetting Matthias Hughes
Starting point is 00:12:55 who is like draws isn't it yeah he's like Germany's attempt at making a Dolph Lundgren but they missed and made a Fabio yeah
Starting point is 00:13:04 yeah they did he's great he's also was it tiger claws with Cynthia right Fawfrock unrelated to this
Starting point is 00:13:12 tiger movie there was a point where I had to pause this and look up like is that Fabio doing like himself is he like doing
Starting point is 00:13:20 a Fabio accent it's like you've like you've plugged Fabio into Fabio and you've got some kind of work going on I wrote down that
Starting point is 00:13:28 he's the kind of guy that would play a guy called Thor in a movie called Cyber Vengeance and I looked him up on IMDb and he did and then there's
Starting point is 00:13:41 a sassy lady investigator because that's just the only role for women in an action film in the 80s and 90s she seemed like a competent actress
Starting point is 00:13:49 but was just too exactly Christina Applegate to ever get a big break so sorry to to Jane I can't remember
Starting point is 00:13:57 her last name in the movie so I guess let's talk about this movie it opens on a downtown Vegas pro wrestling battle
Starting point is 00:14:05 to the death and then that's just to set up like what's going on in the movie and Richard Lynch is really annoyed that
Starting point is 00:14:13 his fighter died he's looking for a new fighter and then suspiciously Bruce Locke is hitchhiking in the desert to come to Vegas
Starting point is 00:14:21 to just apparently be homeless in Vegas and maybe murder people maybe I mean maybe if the money's right
Starting point is 00:14:29 well how about that opening fight scene amongst a bunch of just like where did they find these guys like some fucking truck stop
Starting point is 00:14:37 I guess when he's dressed up in everything American theme you're just like why what is
Starting point is 00:14:45 is this Mr. America is that what this is supposed to be because he yeah it was a lot of showmanship he's a representative
Starting point is 00:14:53 it's just one big truck stop you can pick up whatever you need there as long as what you need is guys in Zubaz America pants but it was a lot of
Starting point is 00:15:03 theatrics for an audience of just four dudes just four dudes betting on their lives they're like all right but I'm going to put on a show gentlemen it was so empty
Starting point is 00:15:11 in like an above ground pool what the fuck is that like an above ground pool in the forest is where we're having our fights well they also made
Starting point is 00:15:19 a strange decision that they stuck to the whole movie because every fight there is shot from like 40 feet back it's too dangerous in the pool
Starting point is 00:15:27 we had choice and there's really like no use of wrestling almost at all right yes I did not get this was a professional wrestling movie
Starting point is 00:15:35 until maybe halfway through the movie I thought it was just this movie this like underground fighting movie that we keep making and especially made
Starting point is 00:15:43 in the 80s and 90s and honestly we're here for that we love yeah I'm not no criticism on board but then when they were like
Starting point is 00:15:51 and then it's professional wrestling I mean wait a minute are you saying that like underground wrestling is about murdering hobos I mean I know
Starting point is 00:15:59 it is but we don't need to say that out loud in this movie and fights have better choreography than this that's
Starting point is 00:16:07 a serious burn but also completely true because those bums they had nothing to live for they went for this very
Starting point is 00:16:15 tentative choreography the weird like bullet hole riddled like leftover from like an 80s MTV
Starting point is 00:16:25 video shoot that he lives in yeah it's like a Rick Astley video shoot I love it the guy from the first fight not the guy named
Starting point is 00:16:35 American Pants the other guy was that the big pony tailed guy from every Jackie Chan movie it's probably
Starting point is 00:16:43 strong possibility like the white guy the big white guy from every Jackie Chan movie I did not get a good I just know that this this
Starting point is 00:16:51 you know bullet hole riddled oddly aesthetically lit hobo dungeon filled full of 50-foot gallon
Starting point is 00:17:00 oil oil drums with fires in them probably is the only thing a person could afford to rent in LA right now that's where he went to live
Starting point is 00:17:09 like on purpose he showed up there and was like yeah this is great it was still at least like $600 a month absolutely that's a good deal sold
Starting point is 00:17:18 so he the first thing he does when he gets there is he sees this gang of guys beating up a couple and he's like oh no
Starting point is 00:17:26 I gotta stop this and one guy's like alright we'll kick his ass too and then in a weird bit of caution that's unusual for a movie like this
Starting point is 00:17:34 the other guy says no he's crazy like he knows not he knows how this is gonna end this is a cliche that he's seen before
Starting point is 00:17:42 I saw that guy around the corner I'm not we can't we can't fight this guy we're he's actually carrying numb checks
Starting point is 00:17:50 he writes in the back of uncovered pickup trucks with sunglasses on and smiles about it you can't fuck with this guy yes absolutely not
Starting point is 00:17:58 so this guy knows that he's in an engine movie sure enough this lone stranger just beats the shit out of him a lot of weird acting choices from Bruce Locke he grabs the guy's knife
Starting point is 00:18:07 and sticks it into his own ass with just a look of raw accident just it was great he was so happy to be doing that he was like
Starting point is 00:18:15 I just have waited all my life to deliver your own knife to your ass here here I consider myself a matchmaker
Starting point is 00:18:23 the two of you and he goes back home with the hobo couple who live in the the bullet riddled warehouse and this guy's from Oregon but he does
Starting point is 00:18:32 a very thick Japanese accent he says nice place you have here and then the girl says it's home and the guy says we're the red dragons wait the red
Starting point is 00:18:41 the red scorpions the red scorpions the red scorpions the bad guys are the dragons they have a second hobo gang that they fight called the dragons all hobos are in gangs
Starting point is 00:18:51 they're in kung fu gangs specifically I don't think they're like a karate gang or a drug runners or anything I think it's like more like a kids detective agency it's a club
Starting point is 00:19:00 it's like a motorcycle club but with like burning barrels it's a PBS show gone bad so he's like hi I'm Jiu Jitsu and I and they're like what the fuck did you just say
Starting point is 00:19:12 it's like alright you can call me tiger the guy goes tiger that's stupid and to be clear they're the red scorpions that dude's name is probably pancake
Starting point is 00:19:20 or throwing star and he's all pissed off about tiger tiger that's dumb it's got to be scorpion themed yeah he's so okay you need to be scorpion we live in the scorpion dungeon now
Starting point is 00:19:30 it has to be scorpion we'll call you sting yeah oops wait no there's another sting we'll call you Japanese sting
Starting point is 00:19:39 NW lone sting lone sting while I'm a subject of copyright IPs this guy's name is tiger his father is named Tiger Mask
Starting point is 00:19:50 he's battling he's trying to fight a game a guy named Dark Tiger and all of these tigers are king from Tekken which is a very popular game
Starting point is 00:20:00 when they made this movie yes and yet there is a character in the film called king who is not a tiger I don't want to confuse anybody but there are three tigers and the movie's called
Starting point is 00:20:08 lone tiger and none of the tigers are king who is a different guy except for king who is not a tiger right you've got and then you've got the king in Tekken
Starting point is 00:20:16 who is basically based on Tiger Mask so correct you're just like how did this how did yeah
Starting point is 00:20:24 they were not allowed to make this movie in so many different ways they definitely weren't allowed to make it good it loops deep just to avoid prosecution
Starting point is 00:20:34 there's a power struggle that just develops he's like who the fuck said anything about him being the leader he's just a random it's his first day
Starting point is 00:20:42 it's his first day in a hobo school right and so he's like I fight you for it the only thing they know about this guy is that he's like a fight master he throws a single punch
Starting point is 00:20:51 Tiger blocks it and the guy's like okay I give I give yeah that's good you know what a punch is that's more than me I feel like
Starting point is 00:21:00 this is his bad he started this power struggle and completely failed that out well Kur and I had the best hair of the whole group so therefore he's the facto leader best hair best fighter
Starting point is 00:21:08 I have a theory that in any situation if you show up to that situation with a bag and declare yourself the leader and if anybody questions it you slowly pull out a tiger mask and put it on over your own head
Starting point is 00:21:19 you are then the leader like nobody's nobody's calling that everybody's like oh okay everybody knows you have PCP and they don't want to get involved also if a guy has a tiger mask
Starting point is 00:21:31 or a PCP you can't kill him and there's a surprising lack of denim in this hobo gang I don't disagree yeah yeah too much a lot of leather
Starting point is 00:21:41 a lot of leather for hobos though which was there a lot of leather? I thought it was like lots of sweatshirts there's some sweatshirts too I think we got some leather and sweatshirt combos in here
Starting point is 00:21:50 it's just that 90s layer of the shit you know what it is I'm getting across again it's the dragons the dragons the motorcycle gang that were all right they were all leather
Starting point is 00:21:59 like full leather daddy look not leather bikers but leather daddy looks yeah there was a lot of like some sex costumes I think it's what they were wearing for fringe and stuff and we got to be careful
Starting point is 00:22:09 because I did look it up and that was a real motorcycle club oh they were not actors dragons it had to be I loved their little clubhouse though like they spray painted dragons on it that was their real
Starting point is 00:22:21 that was the pirates motorcycle club and that was their hangout that was their boss and they let some random B-movie idiots come in there and just spray paint dragons on it in the credits the bad guys are
Starting point is 00:22:33 biker babes for all of the women mm-hmm and the bikers are Mad Mike Geronimo Dr. Death and Rev Bill
Starting point is 00:22:43 I love all of them yeah I wish that I could bite them over for tea not to mention people will go a long way for an IMDB credit clearly Rev what's his name Rev Phil
Starting point is 00:22:55 uh Rev Bill Rev Bill Rev Bill yeah he's he's going places the gang throws around a lot of racial slurs that even in 1996
Starting point is 00:23:04 I think was an uncomfortable amount of racism yeah they really hate Asians they couldn't even like land on what country he was from it's Jiu Jitsu and I I think we've narrowed down
Starting point is 00:23:13 his country of origin and yeah they're like I hate this guy Korean racial slur Chinese racial slur it's like dude pick a country the sign he's from there
Starting point is 00:23:21 but you'll notice like they threw a lot a lot of real slurs around way too many to be comfortable with even in 96 like 82 sure 96 was like oh uh oh
Starting point is 00:23:31 but they did land on Buddha head the only one that is not real I remember I was very surprisingly shocked when I found out the Korean racial slur is actually just a shortened form
Starting point is 00:23:47 of what Koreans call Korea Honguk that's all it is Honguk so what you will see with a G or a K depending on how they romanize it
Starting point is 00:23:56 yeah so Racists can make anything sound yeah they just scream the last four letters of Honguk and you're like I don't like how you said that yeah
Starting point is 00:24:05 so yeah what are you gonna do well and then you've got and like I said it'll be either spelled sometimes with a G or with a K so if you see
Starting point is 00:24:13 Honguk tires it's the same thing it's the same Korea tires well I will not give them my biscuit Racist I love that they landed on Buddha head
Starting point is 00:24:25 and once they landed on Buddha head that was it for the slurs all of the slurs from that point forward just Buddha head like no we found it it sounded like one guy fucked it up
Starting point is 00:24:33 and called him booty head and I was like I really like the evolution of it are you saying my earlobes are huge okay
Starting point is 00:24:42 let me check my notes at this point we cut to Richard Lynch Bikini Mishlas is what it says so that was that was a good cut
Starting point is 00:24:50 away from the hobo gang to a bikini massage I like how it's in that whole scene is in this insanely blue
Starting point is 00:24:58 strange except for the pink lighting that's on him in this oh that's this is so I think you call that bisexual lighting actually
Starting point is 00:25:07 I think that's a real thing yeah that's the thing that's accurate so he's he's pissed off he wants a real street fighter so he
Starting point is 00:25:16 sends out his beautiful lady investigator to take out local back alley arguments go park somewhere and wait for people to fight and then
Starting point is 00:25:24 whoever wins will take them and that's literally what he says is he wants he wants you to get in a car and go park in some back alleys
Starting point is 00:25:32 and see if people fight and then bring him the winners in your 1994 Chrysler the Baron convertible you're just going to go hang around hang around
Starting point is 00:25:41 some set with a bunch of like like Michael Jackson beat it set dressing people are just show up and
Starting point is 00:25:49 he knows his demographic clearly you painted a really beautiful picture of that scene I'll stop so I guess here they fight
Starting point is 00:26:00 and they they're like hey we're going to beat you up red scorpions they're like no you want dragons because we have this guy and they're like
Starting point is 00:26:08 wait this is the guy that just kicked all our asses and they go through his bag and find a tiger mask and then they're like hey look he's got his tiger sex mask in this bag
Starting point is 00:26:16 and they put it on his head I've never seen anything so fucking stupid what a mistake so this must be some maniac mask let's put it on
Starting point is 00:26:24 see what happens sure enough the maniac showed up with a fetish let's put it on him for him I forgot absolutely insane that was
Starting point is 00:26:33 it's like he just stands there and lets people rifle through his stuff at the same time it's like just hoping that they touch his mask
Starting point is 00:26:41 let's oh my god let's put it on him well how about the one guy that starts playing with the mask first yeah that's what he wants
Starting point is 00:26:49 just tying out his dirty butt wipey hands all over this dude's mask and sticks it on his head now put it on me so he obviously wins the fight
Starting point is 00:27:01 it's not a good fight I think it's worse than the pro wrestling fight it's very much like a block weight like it was like
Starting point is 00:27:09 the first run through of rehearsals just for blocking and they're like fuck it throw in the movie then the hobos take Curran and I
Starting point is 00:27:17 to a local pro wrestling show and he loves it he is completely pumped he watches Dark Tiger his finisher did you
Starting point is 00:27:26 make note of his finisher I forgot it was a spin-in-crescent kick yes I mean and then another spin-in-crescent kick his hues
Starting point is 00:27:36 didn't really excel in this whole pro wrestling concept here because he's supposed to be somewhat of a high flyer at the same time
Starting point is 00:27:44 and everything had to be so stunted stuntedly put together to make it actually work that it just
Starting point is 00:27:52 comes off so terrible yes spin-in-crescent kick I'm watching it on my phone right now good god and you're like Dark Tiger you don't even have a mask on
Starting point is 00:28:00 yeah he doesn't even have a mask so it gets really weird here like I feel like something went wrong in the writing process because Tiger loves
Starting point is 00:28:09 watching Dark Tiger fight and then it flashes back it flashes back to Tiger's daddy the original Tiger carrying him as a pro wrestler and then
Starting point is 00:28:17 it cuts back to modern day and he goes one day I will fight the Dark Tiger like the guy he was just cheering for he's like sworn to destroy
Starting point is 00:28:25 and I seriously just don't get it I feel like like it's just a remnant from a previous draft or so what was great was that 90%
Starting point is 00:28:33 I will not I think it's like 75% of the movie I was sure that Dark Tiger was the big villain he's going to face Dark Tiger killed your father
Starting point is 00:28:41 now it's Tiger versus Dark Tiger and then he and Dark Tiger meet and they're just like best friends best friends great fighter
Starting point is 00:28:49 you are a great fighter too I forgot actually he's wearing a mask it's just like some weird creepy flesh colored like eyes wide chef thing oh yeah
Starting point is 00:28:58 that was just a promo picture he didn't fight in it did he? no he's wearing it in a ring I'm looking here and it is just
Starting point is 00:29:06 not a good look yeah it's you don't want to be near a guy in this mask a guy in a Tiger mask you know he's going to fuck you up
Starting point is 00:29:14 but a guy in the Matthias mask you're like no I want to take that that never washed you know become
Starting point is 00:29:22 drizzled fury object and put that thing on my head yeah that's the late scrotum yeah it's the inverse of the law
Starting point is 00:29:30 I laid out earlier if you show up to any place with like a bag and you pull out a mask of your own face and then put it on don't make that man the leader that may
Starting point is 00:29:38 not be the leader so speaking of like going against the norms the evil lady finds Bruce he's like hey we want you to fight
Starting point is 00:29:52 in the underground fighting circuits we'll give you $1,000 and he's like sure cool I'm in and most movies this is where the hero
Starting point is 00:30:00 wants you to push back he'd be like no I don't fight for money or your boss is a criminal whatever but he's like a whole thousand dollars
Starting point is 00:30:08 gee whiz I'll take it he does not sense the evil on Richard Lynch at all is he watching the same movie yeah I know
Starting point is 00:30:16 it's like what the fuck evil lady just reaching for drinks evilie smiling evilie there's like dead bodies
Starting point is 00:30:24 of bikini girls he's stepping over he's like then I feel like the screenwriter realized this mistake and said I only fight for the right cause
Starting point is 00:30:33 and then Richard Lynch says how about this is this enough for the right cause and he pulls out like 30 bucks and then and he says
Starting point is 00:30:41 and I quote sure so I wish he'd had some pull tabs in there too that is the exact moment when the movie
Starting point is 00:30:50 won me over when the hero is like I only fight for the right cause and then he pulls out like a 50 and he's like yeah that's it what about this
Starting point is 00:30:58 half finished bottle of mad dog 2020 okay okay throwing an old shirt it gets cold in my warehouse
Starting point is 00:31:06 they cut to Tiger's first fight it's the audience is Richard Lynch and one guy and it's super sloppy
Starting point is 00:31:14 it seems like the mask is really annoying to him to suggest the mask 15 times in this one fight well I also I had forgotten how fricking windy it was it's just
Starting point is 00:31:22 yeah and then there's this weird cowboy dude that he bets against right and that is that does he fight the cowboy in this fight
Starting point is 00:31:30 well no but there's the guy with like the fur and the cowboy hat and that Richard is against him yeah his like rival the gambling rival
Starting point is 00:31:38 or the fight promoter rival we don't really get the backstory of that but like his name is the man that plays him is named Timothy Bottoms
Starting point is 00:31:46 oh wow Timothy Bottoms Timothy Bottoms well Timothy Power Bottoms was just I scooped it
Starting point is 00:31:57 so yeah we don't get the backstory why they hate each other but he does pray to Jesus several times for the power to get revenge
Starting point is 00:32:06 against Timothy Bottoms this is a big theme throughout the movie it's not like just a quick aside it'll cut a whole scene to him
Starting point is 00:32:14 he's just desperately begging Jesus for a man to kill hobos help me this is a strange project from the 700 club turn to Jesus if you're short on hobos
Starting point is 00:32:27 but more convincing than anything I've ever seen like I turned to Christ several times during this film because you were like are you watching this what could create this movie other than God himself
Starting point is 00:32:41 I honestly feel like this is part of the Tekken story they stole because I looked up King's backstory from Tekken and he was like a Catholic who saved orphanages
Starting point is 00:32:50 and like was really religious and so I feel like just chunks of that story got scattershot through this script yeah perhaps you know because
Starting point is 00:32:59 they would probably not you know what's strange is that the people that wrote this thing one of them is the kid of the original writer
Starting point is 00:33:08 for Tiger Mask so the orphanage stuff yeah Catholic stuff what? yeah didn't fly
Starting point is 00:33:18 and it's weird for the villain to have it and it's also weird to ask Jesus for a fighter to get revenge against an unrelated fight promoter it's just such a a long road to walk
Starting point is 00:33:28 and for it to never pay off because it never pays off they just show that scene a few times you're like that'll be used against him in the end somehow or it'll be like
Starting point is 00:33:37 he'll be twisted through it but no he just he really believes in Jesus and he wants hobos to kill each other for his amusement it would have made a really interesting movie
Starting point is 00:33:45 if Jesus did show up and like I don't know like had Tiger Mask on a cross and then jump down and freaking
Starting point is 00:33:53 comedians into death I don't know green lit but with the bottoms character you can tell the wardrobe
Starting point is 00:34:01 department was just like dude whatever you want whatever you're wearing is fine it's like alright I've been on the farm all day we don't care
Starting point is 00:34:09 like formal cowboy like cowboy at the prom maybe so Tiger will not murder his opponent because this has not been explained to him
Starting point is 00:34:19 they say you know go fight that guy pro wrestling style kind of but also you have to kill him they did not tell him this so instead of killing him he does what I would say
Starting point is 00:34:28 70% of a backflip like a defiant almost backflip very strange I loved that moment I was so convinced by that moment because that is a man
Starting point is 00:34:36 who doesn't understand why this is suddenly one of the things that I would say to him and his panic like I'm just gonna do this
Starting point is 00:34:44 that's pretty cool right are we good can we get past the the murdering thing and the whole time Richard Lynch is collecting his money
Starting point is 00:34:53 and bitching about the whole thing and also showing his his wispy hair all over the place I think he looks beautiful then he shoots
Starting point is 00:35:03 he shoots the guy dead like somebody has to die in the fight with bullets that's the part of the world and our hero also has no objections to it
Starting point is 00:35:12 he just looks at him like huh that sucks did give me 50 bucks so then he does get money I think he got
Starting point is 00:35:24 1,000, 5,000 I can't remember how much they gave him but he gives it all to the homeless drug hustler he met yesterday because that guy's good with money I want you to die
Starting point is 00:35:33 here's $5,000 kill yourself yes give a drug addict $5,000 so now it cuts to Richard Lynch doing his
Starting point is 00:35:43 religious ritual thing he's thanking God for the new karate star some more flashbacks and here's what really shocked me is Tiger came back like he's like
Starting point is 00:35:53 I don't like murder I'm gonna take all this blood money give it to these hobos and then he's like you know what I could go for some more underground fights
Starting point is 00:36:01 for the money I don't care about well it was all the woman who tried to get him to take the money and he's like a little reticent at that
Starting point is 00:36:09 and she says look I don't like the killing any more than you do but what are you gonna do that's an exact quote and you know what and again
Starting point is 00:36:17 just like with the money it works he's like oh okay and he takes the money that's how I got convinced into doing and mixed martial arts this is how
Starting point is 00:36:27 underground wrestling works you murder hobos in an above ground pool until you are big enough to reach the big time I don't like it any more than you do what are you gonna do
Starting point is 00:36:35 what are you gonna do see I was a big semi-shilt fan so after your pancrease match with him when they shot him dead I was like oh what the fuck
Starting point is 00:36:45 tragic I know but you know seven foot tall judgment take a lot of food but what are you gonna do it's true it's saved a lot on groceries so now we get
Starting point is 00:36:55 Robert Zadar's training montage which fucking rules he starts off doing two finger pushups with Robert Zadar on his back so where do we go from here
Starting point is 00:37:05 that's already fucking 10 out of 10 training because Robert Zadar is especially pair like in this role yes Robert Zadar
Starting point is 00:37:14 has let himself go and I know what that is saying oh yeah no he is from a guy who used to be somewhat of a chubby buff dude
Starting point is 00:37:23 just turned into just a melted ice cream cone yeah I thought he looked amazing perfect for doing pushups with him on your back but also it flashes back to show that like
Starting point is 00:37:34 Tiger was doing blindfold training at age eight which is very lucky because one of Zadar's exercises is putting a bag over your head and hitting you with the bat
Starting point is 00:37:47 so you either know how to fight blindfolded or you're dead on the first day of training there was no way he expected him to do anything but die he was just like
Starting point is 00:37:55 alright here's the part where I kill you wait what the fuck I mean he swings a bat at him he grabs it intercepts it spins around
Starting point is 00:38:04 then hands it back to him handle it first and then Zadar angrily rips the bag off he's like you're supposed to be brained all over the floor
Starting point is 00:38:14 yeah he was clearly like this is just where I kill I get my hobo kill in for the day because this is a very hobo killing movie and then
Starting point is 00:38:22 he makes his crazy face at him like I love that this was all foreshadowed when they do the flashback training with his dad and then
Starting point is 00:38:33 right before that scene and his dad's training was just chasing his like five-year-old son around a marsh with a stick like he's just in a marsh and he's running after him
Starting point is 00:38:42 like I'm gonna beat the shit out of you kid and then they flash forward to Robert Zadar with this makes you fast Robert Zadar dragged him with a motorcycle you just tied him
Starting point is 00:38:50 motorcycle and fucking dragged him and not even a not even a good motorcycle I don't know why that hurts but it does like if I'm gonna be dragged by a motorcycle
Starting point is 00:39:00 I wish it was something cool instead of like a ninja a nice fancy one a ninja 250 he's on it oh that'd be sweet I'd get dragged by that
Starting point is 00:39:08 then eventually he gets stronger than the motorcycle like that that's the only way to go is just to be stronger than the motorcycle so he plants his feet and then stops the motorcycle
Starting point is 00:39:16 and that's when he knows he's ready for just the most amateur of underground battles how about when Zadar or whoever is playing that might be a stuff guy just eats it off of the bike
Starting point is 00:39:26 he just falls over and just like put his foot down like damn it no he like leaps forward and falls on his face something went terribly wrong there's a scene here that caps
Starting point is 00:39:35 the whole training montage that it ends with Tiger kicking a punching bag and I think it was supposed to split open that they did not have the budget
Starting point is 00:39:44 for a new punching bag because it just kind of like a little dust flew off of it and everybody was like oh he split the bag he says like oh my god
Starting point is 00:39:52 it's really good and then King gets King Robert Zadar gets all jealous she's like oh so you can split bags open with your feet too huh
Starting point is 00:40:01 and he says no with my bare hands and punches it but again it does not split does not split open right I think it's because
Starting point is 00:40:09 whatever the gym they were at they're just going like look if you fuck up any of our bags so it was 35 dollars so we'll coat the bag and flower
Starting point is 00:40:20 and that's good nobody will notice that'll do it I think it was supposed to be sand but like I don't know if you're I'm sure Josh
Starting point is 00:40:28 you've hit a sand filled bag it sucks yeah I know you don't actually fill a heavy bag full of sand that would be ridiculous ridiculous you would fill
Starting point is 00:40:36 like the old gym I was training at Eric Paulson's CSW he had these kind of these smaller canvas square bags that he would then
Starting point is 00:40:45 they'd be filled full of sand and you would put them you would nail them or secure them to like a little well actually
Starting point is 00:40:53 this was to a saw horse and then what you would do you put your hands on the saw horse and you would kick you know relative to what you could take
Starting point is 00:41:01 the sand bag with your shins for shin conditioning or like my old sensei Jim Harrison in Montana has and it's still there at Sakura Warrior Arts
Starting point is 00:41:10 there's a oversized canvas heavy bag but it sits on the ground and it's secured to the ceiling just to keep it
Starting point is 00:41:19 in place and it's filled full of pea gravel and you kick it but again you build up your tolerance you build up
Starting point is 00:41:27 the your shin strength and you reduce the nerve endings and all that kind of stuff but you don't mean this thing
Starting point is 00:41:35 weighs you know a ton you don't you don't just hang it from the ceiling and have it suspended no
Starting point is 00:41:43 in a bag full of gravel or sand it would be the same thing it would just be insane to try and hit that just break all your
Starting point is 00:41:51 bones in your hand getting bag full that's that's fucking crazy it works though let me tell you I imagine
Starting point is 00:41:59 I bet you would like you can kick grab a you can kick your shin like do you ever just look down your shins
Starting point is 00:42:07 and find like bloody spots you're like I don't even know what that's from kind of I mean I'll just
Starting point is 00:42:15 I've told civilians before like just just run your finger up my shin they're like I've
Starting point is 00:42:23 kicked many things no no gravel filled bags my my crew was a little kinder than that but but yeah
Starting point is 00:42:31 it's if someone asked me to kick a saw horse I'd be like I don't know about that but if they tied me to a motorcycle
Starting point is 00:42:39 I'd be like fuck yes Robert Zadar let's do this they tied me a motorcycle and we're like now try to
Starting point is 00:42:47 kick Robert Zadar be like hell yes this is the best the two fat guys fighting in the background pool
Starting point is 00:42:55 I thought it started in the tetanus laced hobo dungeon I thought we were going to get down and dirty in the hobo dungeon they
Starting point is 00:43:04 uh she takes him to dinner the lady investigator and he's real cagey about his name even though he gave it to the hobos earlier he's like
Starting point is 00:43:12 oh you don't want to know my name I would like to clarify something because I think it's so weird she takes him she invites him out to lunch
Starting point is 00:43:20 for sure and then we cut to her at her house preparing a four course meal in her kitchen yeah that's a fucking
Starting point is 00:43:28 that's a baby switch that's a crazy thing like if that that's a she's going to murder you she's going to kill you and stuff you and you're going to be
Starting point is 00:43:36 her husband forever well if if a woman did that to me I assumed she was trying to fuck me but in this movie there's so little chemistry that yes
Starting point is 00:43:44 you would assume murder like you're like number one motivation for everything he definitely didn't take it up to their house like wait this isn't a restaurant
Starting point is 00:43:52 they were like no but I've made a four course meal you're going to eat me I get it I get that I'm the fifth course I'm out they do kiss
Starting point is 00:44:00 and it ends after about two seconds and then they just kind of snuggle like they do not fade to saxophones it's just like yeah these two
Starting point is 00:44:08 do not fuck so because so he he makes sure that to not only match his tiger mask on his head
Starting point is 00:44:16 he's got a little tiger mask that goes on just there that's true marketing images and tiger mask comedy I wish that was in that movie
Starting point is 00:44:29 I guess in the porn parody they do that so they they want him to fight some more and he's like no I don't want to murder anyone
Starting point is 00:44:37 but they make it or no he wants to fight dark tiger at this point and it's revealed that the plot of the movie is that he wants to fight dark tiger
Starting point is 00:44:45 for unspecified reasons we think I sort of hinted that he killed his dad but it's sort of been made clear like no that's not it he just
Starting point is 00:44:53 he just wants to be the pro wrestling champion and they're like okay we can work that out if you kill another guy tonight and he's like ahhh okay so he
Starting point is 00:45:01 so he fights a guy I wrote down he's cowboy murder face have you seen uh uh metal apocalypse yes
Starting point is 00:45:09 yeah so he looks like cowboy oh yeah you're a metal head you probably actually know the writer of that show Tommy's
Starting point is 00:45:17 he's fucking great he's a great dude and John Schnepp was a really good friend of mine who directed a ton of the episodes and did all the
Starting point is 00:45:25 original character designs uh so Rest in Peace Schneppi's on and yeah Tommy's a great dude
Starting point is 00:45:33 yeah what a small world we wrote a show together at MTV oh badass dude's just a total genius he used to
Starting point is 00:45:41 tell Andre the giant stories like he was a WWF writer uh he wrote the scene where the big boss man
Starting point is 00:45:49 like pulls out the who was he didn't pull the grave out of the coffin the big show the big boss man
Starting point is 00:45:57 was tormenting the big show so he like took the dead body of his father and like dragged it out of the
Starting point is 00:46:05 graveyard right behind a car or something right yes Tommy fucking wrote that there's a
Starting point is 00:46:13 there's a thing right up to a camera to like make sure no one's looking so yeah Tommy Blaccia Tommy
Starting point is 00:46:21 he convinced me aka he just told me what he wanted to do uh once at an adult swim party about
Starting point is 00:46:29 he wanted to do a pro wrestling show about the worst pro wrestlers ever and I was
Starting point is 00:46:37 like real ones kind of like based on like some some very good figures and I was just like
Starting point is 00:46:45 sold what do you want me to do yeah then did that get made I don't remember that no it didn't
Starting point is 00:46:53 I don't even know Tommy still wants to do it but if he does call me uh so uh back to the movie
Starting point is 00:47:01 back to the movie uh uh tiger will not kill cowboy murderface their fight
Starting point is 00:47:09 fucking sucks it's bad it's the worst choreography it's just yeah I got to show you how to throw a punch kid and just
Starting point is 00:47:17 big drunk and stumbling punch I feel like it's someone described what martial arts are supposed to be and the guy goes I can do that
Starting point is 00:47:25 and he just makes it up as he goes it's terrible terrible yes without the
Starting point is 00:47:33 the love ability uh so the deadly accuracy as revenge social services comes and they
Starting point is 00:47:41 are talking to me because I thought those were full grown adults I did not know they were meant to be so this was quite a plot twist
Starting point is 00:47:49 so tiger just just really hit this moment this means that tiger now has been the sort of
Starting point is 00:47:57 father figure of a derelict warehouse full of teens which is super not cool tiger
Starting point is 00:48:05 I agree 100% so Richard Lynch walks in and he starts the warehouse and they're like yes
Starting point is 00:48:13 but you run a secret deathmatch fighting league if there's a contest of who can tell the cops the most interesting
Starting point is 00:48:21 story I feel like the reaction they have too like it's so worrisome because the kids are immediately
Starting point is 00:48:29 the prettiest girl who apparently is now underage runs up to him and says we want to be with you tiger
Starting point is 00:48:37 and the other girl goes this is what was nexium or whatever that was where's the tiger mask
Starting point is 00:48:45 this is the biggest red flag anybody has ever seen and yet social services it just doesn't do anything I think it's a lady he bribed to like
Starting point is 00:48:53 pretend to be a social services so this gambit is far stupider that you see what I could have done just
Starting point is 00:49:01 my god so this works though like oh my gosh I guess I have to keep fighting in the underground first thing you try
Starting point is 00:49:09 on tiger works every time every time he's a very agreeable resistance how about 20 bucks more yeah alright I don't want to kill anybody
Starting point is 00:49:17 but what if you did okay okay make it 15 and I'll do it so he rematches against cowboy murder face but this time murder face gets a whip
Starting point is 00:49:26 and tiger gets handcuffed but again imagine which one's more helpful yes so he won't kill again and they're like
Starting point is 00:49:34 god damn this guy just will not murder for us how about the first whip attack he's just standing there doing nothing and he just kind of casually slings it around
Starting point is 00:49:42 his neck and then yes and then Tiger Mask like slowly falls down did you ever see that old SNL sketch
Starting point is 00:49:50 with Bill Murray where he plays the whip master no I haven't seen it but yeah it was very whip master so the premise was that
Starting point is 00:49:58 he comes in to take the place of the whip master and it's very hard to use a bull whip so here's this replacement actor who's just
Starting point is 00:50:07 also I do really that sounds hilarious and I gotta look it up at House Overfall there was a Mel Gibson TV show
Starting point is 00:50:17 gimmick called Josh Acid where they do this this cowboy the sheriff just run around throwing acid in people's faces
Starting point is 00:50:25 what the fuck yes did not just make that up even though it sounds like I did some dark laughs on the podcast today getting some dark laughs I have said a lone tiger
Starting point is 00:50:37 I guess that was part of the humor of it is everyone's like you didn't have to throw acid in that guy's face what the hell is wrong with you I'm Josh Wett diaper like I don't like that either
Starting point is 00:50:47 I don't know which is worse they're both acidic in their own way yeah they both suck so they he won't murder him again
Starting point is 00:50:56 but he just kind of died anyway he died from a heart attack they said later you don't get that in the ring like he falls over and everybody leaves and then it's inferred later
Starting point is 00:51:04 that he just happened to coincidentally die from a heart attack on really tigers off the hook all these moves that involve people basically being piggyback
Starting point is 00:51:14 on one another spinning around as if that's some slowly like some sort of you know drunken frat party it's like Scarlett Johansson
Starting point is 00:51:23 like learning how to do the head scissor takedown like being one oh god she's so terrible why are you trying to give me to believe that
Starting point is 00:51:33 if like anyone at all does not breast first speaking of Jane decides she doesn't want to work for Richard Lynch anymore
Starting point is 00:51:44 and he goes why don't you show him your tits and no rejoinder Robert Siddharth laughs out loud at this so hard and then just stops
Starting point is 00:51:52 like he thinks better of it like wait no I think my character would grow from this I had that exact same thing in my notes I'm so glad you call it out
Starting point is 00:52:00 I had a Robert Siddharth in mind yes that was he just thought that was fucking hilarious and then he abruptly stops
Starting point is 00:52:08 like shit that was unprofessional get it together Siddharth dial it back into the days of of dragon fight maniac cop
Starting point is 00:52:19 your reputation is on the line here Siddharth there's one called final conflict or something like that where he
Starting point is 00:52:27 plays like a spets oh it's got William Smith playing a Russian general
Starting point is 00:52:35 which he can do because he speaks real Russian but then you got Robert Siddharth as his little understudy Spetsnaz guy who's
Starting point is 00:52:43 really adept at throwing shovels oh oh I like the sound of that Spetsnaz
Starting point is 00:52:51 in Russia and Soviet Union had these shovels that would fold up and two or one side of them
Starting point is 00:52:59 is sharpened like bandoliered all over himself and he walks through this makeshift warehouse that has silhouette sized
Starting point is 00:53:07 targets that pop up and he like ching snaps him out and swings the flings of shovels into the wooden targets and they stab into it so yeah
Starting point is 00:53:15 and then he's got to have this fight with the dude from deadly prey and it's over like so it's like robot jocks
Starting point is 00:53:23 but with no cool robots or anything they're just going to set the score with the soldier does he die to
Starting point is 00:53:31 shovel? does he have like an ironic ending? I forget but why not let's just say he does he was let's just say
Starting point is 00:53:39 he was shoved up his butt and then he certainly somebody says at least you're prepared to dig your own grave when he exploits
Starting point is 00:53:47 he just yells perestroika and that's it perestroika ah where am I at my notes so
Starting point is 00:53:55 somewhere dark dark and we're all giggles like a little boy and then caught himself I guess at that moment
Starting point is 00:54:03 I kind of felt like he had a character arc and realized that no other characters in the film had one of those except for the lady
Starting point is 00:54:11 investigator because I would argue that Tiger actually becomes more of a piece of shit as the movie goes yeah Tiger is not doing anything
Starting point is 00:54:19 it's an unusually structured movie because at this point I think we get in a long loop where Tiger says
Starting point is 00:54:27 we're gonna make those kids the ward of the state and he's like okay I'll murder and then he doesn't murder and they get mad and it just
Starting point is 00:54:35 I feel like they do that six times three more times you don't murder a hobo we're gonna get mad you only got three more anyway this film is great
Starting point is 00:54:43 I feel like you could cut an hour from this movie and not change a single thing that is very true Tiger is now I quit for real this time
Starting point is 00:54:51 and so they go out and look for him they find him instantly they hit him with a car saying it lightly because I'm just going through this clip
Starting point is 00:54:59 right now they roll up to this like a train yard he's just Tiger just is walking across this giant pile of this
Starting point is 00:55:07 patch of just dirt that goes on and on and on there's this just cheesy roller fence they get out of the car because God forbid
Starting point is 00:55:16 they should knock that fence over because they couldn't afford to fix it then you can see that there's no fence around anything in the background
Starting point is 00:55:24 and then this like 1991 Nissan Sentra is hauling ass in the dirt at Tiger Mask and you're just thinking oh yeah you better run
Starting point is 00:55:33 and they're trying to make this seem exhilarating which it's not only to knock him over not by hitting him really with the car but by opening
Starting point is 00:55:41 the car doors as they drive by and because that's what you want to do with your price fighter like right before he has to fight is just
Starting point is 00:55:49 mangling with a vehicle at like 15 miles an hour why didn't they just get on a couple bicycles and just like run their feet up his ass
Starting point is 00:55:59 throw some frisbees at him we got him boss so they take him back to Richard Lynch completely uncuffed like he's the most agreeable prisoner ever he's like
Starting point is 00:56:09 alright I'll come with you wherever you say he sits down on the couch and they're like alright you're going to fight for me he's like right back and that piece
Starting point is 00:56:17 of shit with its cloth interior was bad enough right this fucking movie I thought Muffins and Dars duster I loved it
Starting point is 00:56:26 I think that was he brought that from home too yeah he brought that that was his my character wears a duster I have one note I have one note about this movie
Starting point is 00:56:35 duster let me say it again duster it really slims him he looks like 320 tops in that duster so they offer
Starting point is 00:56:45 Tiger a spot in the world wrestling organization they're like sorry for hitting you with a car you murdered enough people or didn't murder enough people fine
Starting point is 00:56:53 we're going to put you in this movie's version of the WWF and then he starts warning everybody that like hey this guy kills people but like
Starting point is 00:57:03 he did that right in front of Tiger already so I guess like I'm not explaining myself very well because this movie's fucking all over the place
Starting point is 00:57:11 but like Jane goes up to him and she says Tiger you can't wrestle for this guy he kills people but like that's the second thing
Starting point is 00:57:19 he saw this guy do it's hard to explain because I don't think the movie meant for me to notice that yeah there's a lot of things the movie didn't want you to see
Starting point is 00:57:27 but Tiger and Dark Tiger meet and they share some very kind words like you are good no you are also good you fight with honor your honoring fight is quite good
Starting point is 00:57:38 like that goes on for 30 minutes Richard Lynch is very pleased about it yeah it's so weird so then we get another flashback
Starting point is 00:57:49 and we realize that he does just want to be the pro wrestling champion he has no interest in getting revenge for his murdered father like that's just established
Starting point is 00:57:59 pretty good bait and switch movie you thought this had a plot but no he just likes wrestling yeah so then they cut to Tiger's wrestling match
Starting point is 00:58:08 it's not very good but maybe better than the regular fights in the underground he does a sweet step up enzigiri so like someone who made this
Starting point is 00:58:16 is a wrestling fan it did some real wrestling moves I loved this he doesn't move where he gets the guy in the turnbuckle he climbs to the top one like he's going to do something
Starting point is 00:58:26 and then he just does a backflip without touching him I'm not sure if we're supposed to know he didn't touch him but if he's just like dude I'm going to fucking backflip right in your face don't know
Starting point is 00:58:34 we already know that his default panic mode is backflip you put him in a corner he doesn't know what to do awkward moment at a party hey you guys want to see a backflip so this is a world where pro wrestling is real
Starting point is 00:58:46 these are not worked matches this is Josh Barnett's ideal world this is Paradise Alley yeah yeah obscene movie reference people go look it up
Starting point is 00:58:56 it's a good one however to get into professional wrestling you do have to murder at least six hobos I can verify this okay I'm ready
Starting point is 00:59:09 point me in their direction what's your call those are the dudes to join the union kid I just want to do the combat training where they tie me to motorcycles and bash me in the head of the bat
Starting point is 00:59:18 while I have a bag on my head Tiger Fires Rosner again Richard Lynch he's like oh I can't have you as my wrestling manager because you're a murderer and he's like well if you quit
Starting point is 00:59:28 I'm going to get those kids and Tiger's like oh fuck you're right yeah that's right before you again and then some more training montage this fucking movie
Starting point is 00:59:36 just keeps cycling there's a really strange scene around here where Richard Lynch grabs Tiger by the face and he's like look kid and he's like like wet mouth
Starting point is 00:59:47 then he's like going to kiss him and he's like never mind and so what what the fuck was that how about the training montage where he's doing all this staff technique
Starting point is 00:59:56 like when are you going to do that yeah when are you going to bring that that bow staff to the fight he does num chucks some really bad bag work maybe that was that gravel filled bag you're talking about he's being real gentle
Starting point is 01:00:08 with that thing so Jane goes to a hotel and we think oh she's going to get Tiger but no it's Dark Tiger and he comes to the door
Starting point is 01:00:19 very shirtlessly and he says oh Jane it's you come take a shower with me so these two have so we suddenly learned that like her and Tiger or him and Tiger
Starting point is 01:00:37 are Eskimo brothers yeah just a really casual like they're like it's not even a thing like oh hey yeah let's go fuck just clearly are still doing it
Starting point is 01:00:46 I believe that that implies current that might have had nothing to do with the movie that might have just been Mattias talking to the actress she was shot like oh hey good to see you again
Starting point is 01:00:56 would you like my would you like my dick inside you maybe not now we are at work but so there's a big fight that takes place
Starting point is 01:01:07 at a pool party at a rustic desert mansion and this is the old absurd by the way this is so ridiculous and it is it
Starting point is 01:01:16 it's Tiger that's doing kung fu forms or whatever in front of a pool on like an old dirty mattress it's just freakin strange it's a very very weird venue
Starting point is 01:01:26 what if this was the entertainment at any party you've been to like you're invited to an industry party which I'm assuming we all have been and they're very strange there's always an undercurrent of like
Starting point is 01:01:36 just weird tension and some sort of cult thing going on oh there's birthday balloons too but to see this man just Tiger mask man just running through
Starting point is 01:01:47 yellow belt caught us on a dirty mattress in the middle of the next to the next to the food table he's right next to the food table too so you have to like
Starting point is 01:01:55 look at that guy like right in the eyes you get your shrimp it's fucked up and it feels like everybody knows it's to the death except Tiger I can't imagine any of the guests
Starting point is 01:02:05 would be surprised like oh shit this is a party where people murder each other like they have to know right I mean it says death fight on the invite it was on the e-bike that got sent out
Starting point is 01:02:15 not to mention you might want to do some crowd control after someone goes holy shit that guy just got killed I think I should call the cops right
Starting point is 01:02:24 you should have a better handle on your party than one doorman who when Matias shows up Dark Tiger shows up and he's like hey you can't come in
Starting point is 01:02:33 and Dark Tiger's like what if I just beat the shit out of you and then okay that worked hey that's a good point one guy for security that's a good point you just made I don't like having
Starting point is 01:02:42 the shit beat out of me but how about Tiger Mass shows up with this frickin does this satin cape go with the whole ensemble God he looks good just
Starting point is 01:02:54 fantastic that is a fucking power move showing up to a fight to the death though with like a satin cape with a mask like they've got some sigh that are like
Starting point is 01:03:03 nailed crisscross on a balcony for no reason wow okay well they just killed Raphael Raphael died in the prelim so
Starting point is 01:03:13 so the woman runs up to Tiger and she's like Rosner killed your father like just out of nowhere I don't know how she knows this Richard Lynch is Rosner just for the listeners to keep it straight
Starting point is 01:03:24 and he's like what the shit and I guess maybe this is what he was trying to tell him earlier when he grabbed his face and he's like look maybe he was gonna confess there
Starting point is 01:03:32 I don't know anyway Tiger fights a sergeant slaughter oh a billy blanks and a sergeant slaughter this guy yeah it's a sergeant slaughter
Starting point is 01:03:40 baddestwish.com version of sergeant slaughter I've ever seen with one elbow pad yep defective unit that was printed with only one elbow pad
Starting point is 01:03:50 collector's item a melted G.I. Joe's sergeant slaughter G and the H are flipped sergeant slogger the dirty mattress has an American flag draped over it design
Starting point is 01:04:03 it's just a desecration of both the mattress and the plank fuck I don't know how bad this movie is and then after that he fights a billy blanks a lightweight billy blanks and my notes
Starting point is 01:04:17 I wrote that he fights an Anthony Kitas next it's not perfect but it's the closest I could come and the whole time it's just for someone to get knocked into the pool right
Starting point is 01:04:26 never happens it does happen eventually I guess it does not during Tiger's like three death matches which again are not to the death then Jane and Dark Tiger
Starting point is 01:04:40 hold up the party at gunpoint for the money that was the plan at least someone's thinking that just really hit that moment because this up to that point nobody has ever mentioned anything
Starting point is 01:04:53 and she's a reporter and he's like the other wrestler and then all of a sudden they just pull out guns and they're like yeah we're robbing this party I like how the illegal underground death match party
Starting point is 01:05:03 run by this illegal evil killer promoter no one's got any guns there was that one guy and the big German man said I could probably take you and he's like yeah I quit
Starting point is 01:05:17 I think it's also because the props they only had two pistols in the whole movie they gave it to Richard Litz one so then he had to give it back and now it's like well shit that's it
Starting point is 01:05:26 I love this movie I love that they just made the decision to romp the party what's crazy is I bet that murder face cowboy guy had five or six guns in his trunk they could have just asked that actor but
Starting point is 01:05:37 so this was the plan that she went to this world's Hulk Hogan and said hey we need to beat our way into a death match and rob them unrelated to the previous plot of this entire movie no one's ever considered
Starting point is 01:05:47 hey I have a gun give me all the cash at this underground death match I forget what Richard Litz does with the gun out yes but he also says that he didn't murder Tiger's dad
Starting point is 01:05:57 so the sudden revenge story that has been brewing for only four minutes fizzles out and then Robert Zadar shows up with the hobo girl and I guess he's still going to
Starting point is 01:06:06 go through with the plan of like murdering her even though like the blackmail's already been done there's no reason to murder her he's like no I'm going to do this but he decides to use her to blackmail Tiger
Starting point is 01:06:17 into a fist fight because he I want a piece of you now well he says Tiger boy I want a piece of you now yes Tiger boy and Dark Tiger
Starting point is 01:06:26 I think it's either a mix up or something but Dark Tiger's like okay cool I'll fight you and they're like no no not you Tiger the other Tiger as a gun aficionado
Starting point is 01:06:36 I love the fact that Robert Zadar is carrying well it looked like Richard Lynch had like a Walther P-38 and you're like well you don't think you would have had something
Starting point is 01:06:46 probably a bit more modern not to mention less historically expensive you know like oh here here's this World War II era
Starting point is 01:06:56 Walther P-38 it probably cost thousands of dollars instead of just a I don't know one of the mill Smith & Wesseth Model 9 or something
Starting point is 01:07:04 and then you've got maybe Zadar shows up in this like 40s era Smith & Wesson like 38 special revolver right what
Starting point is 01:07:12 this is you guys can't afford to have proper firearms maybe they knew the gun nerds would be watching like they'll know this
Starting point is 01:07:20 gun's expensive and that's to show that Richard Lynch has a lot of money I'm giving the movie credit it does not deserve and Bill know that Robert Zadar's gun
Starting point is 01:07:30 is old which is key because he's kind of getting old yeah what if that's the only good film making here
Starting point is 01:07:38 is the gun choices they made right there I really told a story oh goodness yeah at least Robert Zadar's got his duster to go with it
Starting point is 01:07:47 yes he worked to the fight didn't he yeah oh that's fucking good he is so and then he hits him
Starting point is 01:07:55 with the Ray Jackson hockey bash from Bloodsport the movie Bloodsport not the Josh Barnett Bloodsport holy shit I just
Starting point is 01:08:03 has Frank Dukes tried to sue you guys yet no because it involved actually having a real fight I mean
Starting point is 01:08:11 he's saying you'd fuck Frank Dukes up is that I think that's the most easy way of putting it
Starting point is 01:08:19 oh it's all now his squad of ninjas can we said Frank Dukes I'm so glad you brought up a sheet of Kim because that's what we're
Starting point is 01:08:27 doing I'm doing a sheet of Kim book game after we finish talking about this movie oh shit what
Starting point is 01:08:35 just do the calculus driving nuts and this is the only way you find pleasure yes absolutely yes
Starting point is 01:08:43 I'm a paid calculus owner and I bought the booster packs and I played it yeah
Starting point is 01:08:52 the dark star nerd I don't think I did I got pretty far but I don't think I managed to beat him has anybody well
Starting point is 01:09:03 sorry for making my video game too hard but Tiger does finally beat Robert Zadar by bursting the jelly sandwich he was smuggling in his cheeks
Starting point is 01:09:12 yeah I swear to God they gave him a blood pack to just chew on for a while it's not like a little capsule that works he's just
Starting point is 01:09:20 sitting on that thing it's like a steak in there just mom mom I think that was from yesterday's rehearsal he's like
Starting point is 01:09:28 wait no no don't worry I still have one from yesterday it's just it's just gushing the whole time so he
Starting point is 01:09:36 he basically it seems like he dies he doesn't die but he's going out and he says I didn't kill your father either so
Starting point is 01:09:44 what about the tattoo reveal right there I forgot to mention the tattoo reveal so this is a second guy so here at the end they're just like
Starting point is 01:09:52 cramming in they didn't kill someone as if they would be so freely they'd be like yeah I just fucking murk people right
Starting point is 01:10:00 well they have done that in front of them I don't know why they'd hide it so they now it's all kind of wrapped up
Starting point is 01:10:08 and then they're like oh no we got to go to Japan and find out who killed my father and dark tiger's like cool I'll join and then
Starting point is 01:10:16 nobody's invited me too and two of them are tigers so it's a terrible name and idea and your mistakes are finding
Starting point is 01:10:24 the man who maybe killed your father if somebody killed your father it's definitely not him it might be a Japanese organization
Starting point is 01:10:32 but that's only based on the word of the man who probably did kill your father well how weird is it going to get when the
Starting point is 01:10:40 you know dark tiger is banging the chick and then what about and then tiger blown tiger he should at least
Starting point is 01:10:48 watch and learn some moves multiple tigers can be in heat at the same time baby that's the tagline supposedly that sequel never got made
Starting point is 01:11:03 they never got around to it they even a hard like sold it with rosner rosner changes his mind that he actually maybe he did kill the guy's father
Starting point is 01:11:13 or at least he wants revenge because then he calls king Robert Zadar and he's like I made a decision it's not over yet pack your bags we're going to Japan
Starting point is 01:11:21 and that's how it ends it's him just like being I'm still mad about it I thought it could make it go but not he asked Christ for some help
Starting point is 01:11:31 and Christ said no you got to go fucking kill that Christ help was like well shoot him next time he's actually at the end of your
Starting point is 01:11:39 gun barrel that's a great idea Jesus we've already I've already mentioned my favorite part of the credits which is that the club was the dragons was a real thing
Starting point is 01:11:47 and they just seemed like they had a lot of fun dressing up like other daddies and hanging out with biker babes but my favorite thing was the fucking theme
Starting point is 01:11:55 song at the end I love you is this how you propose you cut the answers Robert Brockway we've been friends for a long time and while
Starting point is 01:12:10 my tiger blood boils for you and my mask is wet and my mask for your hands in tiger marriage you've been a part
Starting point is 01:12:28 of our love the whole time it's only fitting you were here for this yes the both of you a multi tiger marriage yes shout
Starting point is 01:12:46 say Frankfort podcast correct correct yes the practice is not without send it to the dog for an hour
Starting point is 01:12:56 come on you can do it one hundred one hundred Frankfort one hundred Frankfort one hundred
Starting point is 01:13:09 one hundred Frankfort one hundred nine thousand my dick here a grubowski is a kid who isn't a fair-haired kid on the block
Starting point is 01:13:24 because everybody wants to be that kid that's a smith and a grubowski has to is a bad guy a little bit but not a bad guy a grubowski has to work
Starting point is 01:13:32 a little bit harder it's the American dream here are the most supreme grubowskies I know free finger Louis Grubowski Aaron Crosston
Starting point is 01:13:40 is one hell of a grubowski Adrian H Grubowski the H stands for Grubowski Aidan Moe Grubowski Alpha Sciences Javo Grubowski Andreas Larson
Starting point is 01:13:51 is so grubowski it has become a problem with friends and loved ones Armando Nava Grubowski Benjamin Cyronin Grubowski Bim Talzer Grubowski Brandon Garlock Grubowski Brian Saylor Grubowski
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Starting point is 01:14:31 and personal Grubowski Eric Spaulding Grubowski Fancy Shark Grubowski Jell-O Ho Grubowski Ham Bone Grubowski Haraka Grubowski Hot-Fart Grubowski A Grubowski is kind of a fart
Starting point is 01:14:45 in an elevator of society, you know? Javer L. Aiden Grubowski John Dean Grubowski John McCammon Grubowski John Minkoff Grubowski The Grubowski Weapons Master Josh S. Grubowski Ken Paisley Grubowski
Starting point is 01:15:02 K&M Grubowski and that stands for Killer New Mother Father Grubowski A Grubowski doesn't swear but he lets you know when he wanted to Laziest Man on Mars Grubowski The hardest work in Grubowski
Starting point is 01:15:14 Mark Grubowski The Laziest Grubowski Matt Riley Grubowski Michael Lair Grubowski and Michael Wells Grubowski We call them the Mike Grubowski brothers They are not brothers Mike Stiles Grubowski
Starting point is 01:15:30 Mojoo Grubowski N. D. Grubowski and that stands for No-Duh Grubowski They're the Sassy Grubowski Neil Bailey Grubowski Neil Schaefer Grubowski Nick Ralston Grubowski
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Starting point is 01:15:57 Rich Jocelyn Grubowski Sarkovsky Grubowski who was already part Grubowski the ski part Toasty God Grubowski Tom Sakula Grubowski Tommy G Grubowski and the G stands for
Starting point is 01:16:12 Good Yossarian Grubowski and Timmy Lehi Smith You know what that means Grubowskis This man is a natural born enemy of Grubowskis everywhere I declare a Grubowski Holy War
Starting point is 01:16:27 Every true and faithful Grubowski must pick up axe and flame and take to the streets No, get off me No corner of this earth can be rendered safe for a smith or I will not think this through I have justice on my side
Starting point is 01:16:39 You can't silence the Grubowskis We are legend We are Grubowski We will have our revenge

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