The Doug Stanhope Podcast - DSP Ep. 489: Dying On Stage with Paul Kimble

Episode Date: May 5, 2022

Laura Kimble loved comedy and especially Stanhope. But, she died of brain cancer. Doug sits down with Paul Kimble to see how things went and what has happened since. Recorded Mar. 7th, 2022 at the Improv in San Jose, CA with Doug Stanhope (@dougstanhope), Paul Kimble (waxmoonmusic.com), and Ggreg Chaille (@gregchaille). Produced and Edited by Chaille. Check out Paul's band WAX MOON - https://waxmoonmusic.com/ Doug's new book, "No Encore For The Donkey" available exclusively at Audible.com - https://amzn.to/31uwvO0 We have no idea what the future holds so get on the Mailing List at https://www.dougstanhope.com/. When we know, we'll let you kn LINKS - BetterHelp.com - Get 10% off your first month by visiting our sponsor at BetterHELP.com/stanhope. Helix Sleep - Find your perfect mattress at HelixSleep.com/stanhope - Helix is offering UP TO $200 off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners. Find your perfect mattress at HelixSleep.com/stanhope. Stay in the loop with the ISSUES WITH ANDY podcast featuring Andy Andrist, Brett Erickson, Chad Shank and Chaille. New episode every Friday - https://www.patreon.com/issueswithandy Need more Chaille? Check out Mix Tape Time Machine Podcast with John Norris, Matt Collins and Ggreg Chaille - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mix-tape-time-machine-podcast/id1554596023 It's FREE to join Chad on his Twitch Channel. Go the Chad's Twitter page where he has pinned a tweet with instructions - https://twitter.com/hdfatty Visit the Stanhope Store - http://www.dougstanhope.com/store/ Closing song, “The Stanhope Rag”, written and performed by Scotty Conant for Doug Stanhope and used with permission – Available on Soundcloud - https://soundcloud.com/scottyconant Photo Credit - ChailleSupport the show: http://www.Patreon.com/stanhopepodcast

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You're listening to the Doug Stanhope podcast. All right, we're going. We are live from the San Jose Improv Green Room pre-show with Paul Kimball, who if you caught the last special, Dying of a Last Breed, that was my closing bit, was about his, what's that word? Late wife. Late wife, yeah. Took me a while to come up with that word, too, when it happened. Yeah.

Yeah, it was always weird with Shockcroft was saying it's Hedberg's ex-wife. It's not ex-wife. It's former wife now. Yeah, it was a piece of language that I kind of wrestled with. It felt real weird because it's not like

we ever stopped being married until it's just stopped being alive. Yeah, that's going to be odd. Yeah, the special is actually coming out. So this is fortuitously timed that we're here and you're here. I said, I thought we had you on the podcast, and Chaley thought so too. And we don't know how that didn't happen but yeah the special is

as we promised years ago eventually buy it now or eventually it's coming out for free and it's coming out for free two weeks or so soon on all things comedy so yeah it worked out

nice so where we're at here I just did soon on All Things Comedy. So, yeah, it worked out. Tell me where you're at and what you're doing. So, we were out here. I just did. He says you were in San Jose. Oh, Green Room. Yeah, I did all that right in front of you. That's Greg Bailey. He's going to set up merch

and do things. And we have quesadillas and pretzels coming. So, it'll be a little chaotic, but if you haven't heard this story laura your late wife was a huge comedy fan were you were you both the comedy fans yeah but uh i worked about it she had the ability to uh not have to get up super early so she went out to more shows than me you got this is how This is how it's recording. It's onto my thing here.

What? It's uploading through this because I can't find the Wi-Fi here. And I walk down the hall. I'll take a picture of the theater. Yeah, that would have knocked you guys off. You guys should be good.

But you can't take your phone with you. I can't take my phone with me. Well, no one calls guys should be good. All right. But you can't take your phone with you. I can't take my phone with me. Yeah. All right. Well, no one calls you except for me. And I'll let you know if I need anything. I don't just have that all the way. It's locked.

All right. This is a clusterfuck from the beginning. All right. So Laura, I don't remember the first time I met her. I know she was at the green room. Like she was really inventive. She was a comedy. She was really embedded in comedy. She was a hardcore fan of yours in particular.

But she was a hardcore comedy fan. Yeah, full stop. Yeah, she was everywhere. And I can tell you when she first saw you. Tell me. It was at the Satirista's show up in the Throckmorton Theater. Oh, wow. I was just thinking about that. Because she came

home from that show i couldn't go i was staying home with the kids and uh she came back from this like stanhope's gonna be your new favorite comedian we gotta go see him together so like it was that and she was right that was a mixed bill with that and this is marin county yeah uh so it's like high dollar, like very high dollar. Mort Saul was on the bill. That's right. The guy that, not the shitbag Lars, but the other guy from Metallica was in the audience. Oh, Kirk Hammett was there. Yeah.

And I always swore if fucking Lars from Metallica was ever at one of my shows, I'd have him fucking removed for all that shit they did with Napster. I remember I saw that. Yeah. shows I'd have them fucking removed for all that shit they did with Napster that fucked me. And yeah, I remember opening with hey, you guys are out on a Sunday night. Don't you have people that have to get up and work for you tomorrow morning? I can imagine you making

a lot of assholes tighten at that point. Yeah, and then I started shitting on fucking Metallica. It was awkward. And Mort Sahl evidently was, as his handlers were walking him out, someone overheard him say, I know they have the right to, but I'd like to say whatever Bitsat is doing. Dude, that's a badge of honor if there ever was one.

So that was the first time. Yeah, that's the first time. But it was only months later that we saw you up at, what was it? The Rickshaw stop in the city? Yeah. Was it the Rickshaw? Punk Rock Standing. Super great. One of the most fun live

comedy experiences ever. Seeing you for the first time in a standing room only Punk Rock nightclub. It was a freaking great, great show. Great night. Win that bingo that night. And yeah, it was just a super fun.

We've been seeing you ever since. Being at the comedy store in LA, we had some tragic shows there. Like drunkenness. Levels of cocaine and drunkenness that I remember we had our merch set up. It was me and Junior, and I had my merch set up, and I remember just crawling under the table because I didn't want to deal with selling merch. I was fucking hammered.

I remember laying under the table, hiding from people, and then all of a sudden, someone's selling my merch, and I look up, and it's Laura a sudden someone's selling my merch and i look up and it's laura kimball's taking over the merch food just taking money she was a jump in and help kind of person like totally if she saw somebody that she liked who needed help she was already working on it before they had a chance to ask for help. It was a really really cool aspect of her personal life. Yeah, yeah she was a sweetheart. The story is that she had, well I know it spread to her brain. Yeah, she had melanoma and it didn't take very long for her to get really sick. It was about February of 2013 she was diagnosed and she was gone by June of

2015. Damn, it sucked. It was really, really rough. Yeah, and it always made me fucking crazy that you would come to multiple shows and everybody that knows me knows how much that gets in my head

if they're seeing the same act. She knew how much it fucked with you, and it gave her such pleasure. So once she got diagnosed, well, now I can't really give her shit anymore for coming to all these shows night after night, seemingly. Yeah, what are you gonna do deny her her last gig always sitting you know second row center yeah the laura kimball seat

for do it but she loved the way you teased her man i mean i think that was when you right after she was diagnosed and it was a really really intense moment for us as a family. And you and your friends called her and mocked her. They were like, you have cancer. It was hilarious because it was so inappropriate and so fucking beautiful and necessary. And it let so much air out of the tension of that moment. And it made her feel seen and like like okay i'm still me i can still laugh you know and so that's why she made so much effort to continue seeing you as much as she did i mean she and renee took a fucking train down the coast to see because she couldn't fly once

she had the the cancer in her brain you can't fly in an airplane your brain is swollen inside of your skull it's dangerous dangerous. Was it French? Yeah, Rene French. Yeah. She came down. Wow, I fucking do have a memory. Yeah, look at that. Just a couple cells still fired.

So they took the train down together to L.A. to see you. That's when they did the podcast. That's why I thought you were on the podcast. She was on the podcast. Yeah, Rene was down there instead. Right. Again, I took care of the kids. I did a lot of the back office

work during the time when Laura was sick. Well, you did well. Laughter is the best medicine. Unfortunately, I failed her. She's dead. Yeah. It's true.

You suck. I remember you've seen some really fucked up shows, especially here. Yeah. Usually here. Yeah. Well, first of all, I fucking hate this room. I'm not a fan of the improv, but whatever.

It's the thing that San Jose has. So I come to shows here. Come see you here for sure. But it's a big corporate kind of thing. And whatever. Yeah. We were just talking before this started about alternative rooms and i don't know what a crapshoot it is yeah yeah yeah it's never a

crapshoot here you know exactly what you're gonna get so there is a comfort there's a come working the improps you know everything's gonna be set up they let me podcast it's gonna yeah exactly for you it's probably like predictable in all the right ways. As an audience member, not so much. But anyways, you, again, when we came here to see you a few years back and you performed a silent tribute to Laura at the end of your act by just basically saying, you know, my friend's dying of cancer and I'm going to die up on stage in her honor and then just sat there stood there on stage and letting the the room just get painfully uncomfortable while everyone tried to figure out whether it was the right moment to leave the room or not and that was really one of the coolest uh tributes anyone could have ever hoped to have because it she eventually came up on stage and and put her arms around you and gave you a way of leaving the stage it was uh it was really cool man it was really cool you did that

i remember that uh so what was her in with the green room and provenza and all that started exactly in the same spot at the rock morton on that satiricist show. She met Provenza that night too because that was his book, right? Yeah. And so she made friends with a bunch of comics during that whole period of time up at the Throckmorton. And so we went to lots of different shows together to check out things. She went a lot

by herself. But when Provenza started doing The Green Room, she was like, I'm going. I'm like, yeah, go. Have fun. Who did she hate? The comedians When Provenza started doing the green room, she was like, I'm going. I'm like, yeah, go. Who did she hate? Comedians did she hate? This is a green room question because we are in the green room. We always ask our server, what's the worst comedian you've ever had, like diva-wise, that was a douchebag?

Rob Schneider. Really? She fucking hated that guy. Yeah. I'm trying to think of who else, but he comes to mind for sure. Did you ever walk out of a show? I don't think so. I don't think so.

I mean, I've seen some shitty comedians, and generally speaking, they're not the headliners that I've come to see um I've seen mediocre headliners but never walked out because someone was Paul Kimball fronts a band uh I have this album right here it's called wax uh it's wax moon is the band yeah and the new album is hello morning hello morning and you've been with that band for a while because i remember yeah she gave me a disc a long time ago i think the disc she gave you was from my previous band i was in a kind of country rock band called careless hearts and this is uh an acoustic folk thing that me and one other guy do singing close harmony it's very different but it's good good late night

morning music or late night quiet zone stuff usually people who are that big of comedy fans secretly want to do comedy and I didn't know if that was the case with you but if I felt I could not laugh at

my own jokes i would love to have some kind of i would love to incorporate comedy into the things i do but i can't i i cannot keep a straight face i laugh really easy so yeah i stay out of that business all right oh yeah please hold this podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp Online Therapy. Stress shows up in all kinds of ways, and in a world that's telling you to do more, sleep less, and grind all the time, here's your reminder to take care of yourself, do less, and maybe try some therapy. Have you ever found yourself so depressed that you really have to convince yourself that Cobra Kai is interesting and you need to watch all nine episodes today? I know the feeling.

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We went out for lunch and I said, oh shit, you've never been on the podcast? Well, we're doing one anyway. Let's have you on. And then it immediately killed all conversation. Yeah, now we're like, we can't talk about shit. Yeah, save it for the podcast. Now the pressure's on.

I should have written shit down, Tracy. Are you hanging out? Get behind the bar. Get in your place, woman. Cheers. Cheers. Thank you. So,

we were talking about getting back into performing. Yeah. You put this album on it. So the title is what? Give them your details, where they can find stuff. Sure. So the band is Wax Moon. The record is Hello Morning.

It's an LP that we put out in April of last year. And we recorded it in the, I don't know, year and a half right before the pandemic. We just finished recording in February of 2020, and we're about to head into the studio to start mixing it when everything shut down. And so, you know, all the studios became like one-person capacity rooms. And so that left us out. And so we put it on the shelf for a little while. And then my partner, John, he, he's a recording engineer. So he was

able to get into some studios and do some mixing on his own. And over the months, we got it done. And then it's like, okay, you know, late, I guess, last, last spring, we're like, looking like things are opening up, maybe let's put this record out and start putting our shows back together and we started to gear up for you know playing gigs and everything and then slam delta closed the door and so we just uh i'm sure you know this very well we just like lost all momentum again and then had to start again and building it back up again now we played uh one show we got a little company up a couple weeks, and we're just starting to get it back together finally.

Now, what type of venues do you play for a folk duo? Well, so that's one of the coolest things about this particular group is that there's really no venue we can't play. We can play a room like this with 12 people in it and no amplification whatsoever and we can kill in a tiny little space we can play on stage I thought like cafe Roca it's be a bistro where yeah we play a lot of house concerts where we actually you know play at people's homes and you know that shit is fun that's like some

of the most fun because it's super intimate and people are really surprised to hear like something that's actually good in someone's backyard did you do any of that during the pandemic no no well we in the one little window last summer when it looked like everything was going to open up we had a party in our backyard and we had like four different performers and we we performed and it was all outdoors and it was super, super great. And it just whetted everybody's appetite for more. And then, yeah, that makes me really miss parties. We used to have live music and comics. Right. So that's, I mean, I'm desperate for more of that, you know,

and not just to do it, but to feel like the joy of it, everyone being together and relaxed and sharing in these moments of like, Hey, you're fucking hilarious. Hey, you guys are great. Hey, this is, I've never seen her before. She's tremendous. Like all of the spontaneity that happens in those kinds of moments. It's been so long. Yeah. Now it's making me want to plan another farts fest. Yeah. yeah now it's making me want to plan another farts fest yeah because we've had like Blaggards

on the podcast and I've been on Raylan Nelson Willie Nelson's granddaughter she's a performer too? Jesus Christ the Nelson family just never ends does it but I just every time I talk to

these people I'm like ah fuck we have to do a party now maybe we have to all right well let me know man we got cars cars what are you afraid to get on planes no i'll get on a plane we got we have gotten on a couple of planes we've done some travel as a as a family have you done much other than the work that you're doing now? Yeah, I did a road trip first. I drove around mostly Nevada, Utah, just back roads for like 10 days or 15 days or something.

Then I flew to Gibraltar for no reason. It sounded like a weird place to go. It is a weird place to go. What's Gibraltar like? It's two and a half miles of rock. Bottom of Spain overlooking Africa. And I just mostly sat around and drank at a hotel bar.

Sounds interesting, though. Yeah, we were just talking about it. I want to go to Tahiti. Oh, man. That was one of the things that happened to us. So my wife, she was studying for the bar and your new wife. Yes. Oh,

let's catch everyone. Yeah. Sorry. Laura Kibble. Laura passed away in 2015. And then a couple of years later I met Tricia and she is amazing person. I'm super fucking lucky to have met later in my life. Let's get to the in between.

Yeah. What do you mean? The in between? In between Laura and Tricia. Dalliances? The less said the better, but yeah, it was,

it was, I said, what can we talk about at lunch that you can't talk about? I hadn't thought about that question. What was the, what was your first intimate time after Laura passed that you go, oh, can I do this? Can I go through with this? Yeah.

It was someone I had been with in the past, in the distant past. And it was a really surreal experience more than anything else. It was great on one level because somebody knew I'd been with Laura for a long time. But at the same time, it was really weird. And definitely, I don't think I was quite ready. It wasn't like a sympathy situation, was it? I don't honestly know. There was a lot left unsaid in that situation.

But I got the feeling of someone throwing me like a life ring. Maybe it was a was a you know i got the feeling of someone throwing me like a life ring maybe it was a sympathy thing maybe maybe not maybe it was one of those conversations where it's like hey you're in a really hard place and i just want to be here for you no no it wasn't like that it wasn't like that but it was uh it was casual i'll say that and it was uh it was something that i was grateful for at the time but it also took me i i knew after the fact was it more awkward before or after after yeah yeah after like immediately after yeah pretty much oh i gotta go yeah it was it was like that and and i dated for a little while after that too. And again, I just wasn't quite ready.

I had realized, you know, my kids and I were all going through a lot. And, you know. Yeah. How old were they when she died? So Milo was 15 and Frida, who now goes by Rita, was 13. So they were young. This was just a really tough time for these kids. And their dad, me, I'm spinning out too.

It took us all a minute to get our feet underneath. Yeah, she was young. She was 45, 44? 48. 48? Yeah, but really young. She looked fantastic. Yeah.

I mean, before the cancer really came. The cancer fucked her up. It did. But she, yeah, it was a really strange few years how how were the kids were they did they want you to date no no i mean i was i kept it very private because i don't think i knew my kids weren't red and uh then when i did start dating it was difficult for them all right what about with trish the new wife no it by that time it was less so um i think you know my son still struggled with it i think longer than my daughter i think my daughter now no not anymore no i mean i think he's he's in the

process of really accepting that she's my wife and she's so fucking cool and she's nothing but like open hearted with him and really wants to connect with both my kids so I trust that over time it's all going to be great but you know she doesn't make them call her mother no she has a

really light touch and I think that's super appropriate and she's cool as shit and so eventually you know my daughter came around pretty fast how did you meet uh bumble dating app yeah I was guessing it wasn't a gig no it was not a gig most musicians shows but not a folk duet yeah there's not a lot of panties flung at a wax moon show. Yet. That's true.

Now that we've launched your career. Yeah. In the stardom, it was Paul Kimball from the one appearance on the Doug Stano podcast. I'm a new person. Man, if I'd only known, I would have tried to get on this podcast so much longer ago do you uh do you uh i'm gonna say uh oh does your wife come to your shows oh yeah all right yeah she totally totally likes our band because if she didn't if you said no i was gonna say let's not play this album yeah no she's she digs it and she hears it a lot. That's like Andy's wife.

I've known him 25 years. Never once did his wife ever come to a show. Any shows, yeah. He's brilliant. Yeah. Andy's brilliant. Yeah. I always think, what kind of... Does he want her there?

Probably not now. So that's the thing. There's a part of it that the arrangement between the two of them has something to do with it for sure. I mean, now they have whatever their relationship is. Yeah. Pretty separate. I would be creeped out if she did show up. Yeah, I think you would.

Uh-oh, there's trouble. Andy, get off stage. Your wife's here. Go out the fire exit. I don't know what's going on. Should I call the cops? Do you sell merch after shows? Does your wife sell merch?

I don't think she ever has. Laura would have sold merch. I know Trish is going to be listening to this, so I just want to start trouble. That's why I'm drinking water. I know if I turn this into a cocktail, it's going to slowly. Actually, you know what? Since you're here, Tracy, why don't you pour me a gentle one? So in the bit, I do stretch the truth in that bit.

Yeah. I did have your number in my phone. Yep. I'm sure that part was true you were probably dreading my call yeah yeah and that was what the that closing bit on the last special is about if you haven't heard the bit is the fact that I had known her for so long and seen her at so many places and we've become friendly and I've met you at shows. But I said, how am I going to know when you're dead? Because we don't have any mutual friends.

And she said, well, I'm going to give you Paul's number and he'll call you. And so I had your number, just hoping it wouldn't ring. And I remember, I think I was working on my first book then. Shit. I got to scroll. And I remember, I think I was working on my first book then. Shit. You know? I got to scroll. Yeah. One more ice cream.

One more whiskey? Yes. Thank you. Where's that whiskey? Whiskey's, yeah, it's in the bag. It's a league of whiskey. Are you just doing a couple cubes? No big.

Or go home. I don't know why the fuck we ordered food right before we started this. Now it's going to sit there and get cold. But it'll still be better than that fucking Mexican food we had. So the phone goes off. I remember I was writing. I think I texted you. Okay, whatever it was.

I know it took me a minute to figure out what to say. Yeah, thank you. And I thought of saying what the bit I say in the bit. Yeah. And I took, so I, I didn't actually say that. I told you that I wasn't going to say that.

Yeah. And that was the girl. What I wanted to say was blank. And then, uh, yeah, which totally made me laugh. And it was,

and I was like, I'm going to just pretend that you did. And you're like, good, because that's what I'm going to say in the bit. Yeah, there's so much in comedy that is shit you actually thought of as you walked away from the situation going, fuck, I should have said that. But I'm going to say it like that on stage. So much of my adolescence. That was true, though.

Missed the feeling like I couldn't fucking get words out in time. Yeah. You want to go back. That French saying, it's like the thoughts on the stairs or something like that. It's like as you're walking up the stairs after you had an encounter and you think about exactly what you were going to say. Of course the French have a term for that. That's cool. It's like schadenfreude.

Of course. That's a great word. Do you know the French word for this expression? I wish. I want to hear it. She'll Google it. schadenfreude of course that's a great word do you know the french word for this expression i wish i want to hear it she'll google it helix sleep two minutes later you're asleep when i can't sing they can't sue me for a violation of, yeah, Helix Sleep. Sleep is the best drug that I'm waiting for sleep to actually be penalized by the federal government. Because the best drug in the world is lucid dreaming, sleeping, and waking up strong and fresh. And fuck the outside world.

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This podcast was going to be sponsored by original Joe's without their knowledge or consent because it is maybe my favorite restaurant ever. It's old. What? It's like 1940s. It's got a serious 50s vibe for sure. I think it's older now, but I think they last remodeled it in the 50s vibe, for sure. Yeah, I think even 40s. I think it's older now, but I think they last remodeled it in the 50s. I think it's like an original bartender. The bartender's been there for fucking 75 years.

Well, it's 115 years old. Yeah. It's got the old red vinyl. Red vinyl everywhere. Dark, dark, smoke-filled rooms that you can still, even though no one smokes in there, it still feels like smoke. They do perfect

old-timey cocktails and old-fashions and whiskey sours proper and the best fucking spaghetti and meatballs and everybody goes there. Everybody goes there. Oh, is that the regular Joe's that you were talking about? Yeah. Original Joe's. And we were so excited to fucking hook up and have lunch there again

and they're fucking closed on Sunday so fuck original Joe's some other Joe's yeah I was bummed my son couldn't get down quick enough on the BART train because he's not old enough to drink

and I'm like oh shit he's going to meet us down there well he's coming old enough to drink. I'm like, oh, shit, they've got to meet us down there. Well, he's coming tomorrow night. He's coming out tomorrow night, yeah. And I remember that show. Was that the last time I saw Laura? No, that was before the run of shows in L.A. when you did the podcast. Because that's probably why J. Lee was thinking I was on the podcast because we were going to do it together that night in

Felton. But for whatever reason, things didn't work out and you were like, we'll just do it another time. Everything didn't work out at that show. I remember it was like, like a co-op of some kind. Yeah.

And I remember some old docent that was watching the back door when I was out in the back parking lot smoking. And he told me to smoke even further away because it was blowing in. Well, it was a Mexican restaurant too. Yeah. Don Quixote. Yeah, and I don't know which was the stronger of the two, whether it was the kind of DIY punk rock stage or the Mexican restaurant seven miles from downtown Santa Cruz. Did you guys think you were going to Santa Cruz when you got there?

We were in Santa Cruz until we had to do the show. And we went out to basically the Redwoods. Remember? It's crazy. And then we had, didn't we have Andy with us? Yeah. Because Andy had that weird guy that was supposedly molested by the same guy that molested Andy. Oh, yeah.

That guy was there. And his dad or something? No, no. That was my stepbrother and my birth mom's husband. Oh, okay. They were also there. They were also there. Andy was there with that guy.

Yeah. And that went weird and sideways. I hadn't seen them in years. And then they'd come into the carnival with that guy spilling a story with the other Andy's story. And it's like, wow, your friends are great. Yeah. That guy, that guy buttonholed me in the green room

and told me his life story. And he's a co- co-victim? Well, we would have played it, except that he refused to release the okay. After he told his story, he said, yeah, don't release that.

Yeah, that's back when we used to give people out. If you wake up, what did we call it? Morning regret? Something like that. It's been a while. That doesn't happen anymore. We make shit up now.

In post-production, I add shit. I remember giving that guy loads of shit from the stage. The guy that told me I couldn't smoke. You did a solid five minutes on that guy and it was hilarious. It was really fucking funny. You were pacing

the stage. You were so pissed off and it was really funny. I have no idea what I said. I don't think I recorded back in those days or if I did that's a couple five hard drives ago. Yeah, I don't know if they even had sound boards in some of those gigs. In that room, probably not. You're all running all the amplification through like a single guitar amp or something.

I know we found a bar afterwards. I don't know if you were with us. No, we split after the show. We hung out in the green room for a while and took off. Yeah, there's a bar in the office that was like a cop bar you could smoke in. Yeah, exactly.

Eight miles from the venue, though. Back down in Santa Cruz. Yeah, we had to get out of the Angeles National Forest. Were you there the last time I did Santa Cruz? Because I played in Santa Cruz. Yeah. Yeah. We had to get out of the Angeles national forest. Were you there the last time I did Santa Cruz? Cause I played in Santa Cruz proper with Morgan Murphy and Brett Erickson. Oh, you played with Morgan. That's awesome.

Um, no, that was, uh, yeah, it's weird that that was, this wasn't on the tour. That was,

uh, that was, that was five years ago. Yeah. 2016. That was the Ventura when you were talking about, right? The Ventura after that? No, we came up this way.

I don't know where we started. Johnny Depp showed up at the Oxnard tour show. And I was like, we got third sold. Just fucking absolute tumbleweeds. Which is fine because I was just starting out.

Oh, that's where I was hosting. That's what I was doing. Oh, the Friends. Yeah, I was doing Doug Stanhope and Friends where I'd go up and do 1520 and then I might want to check that. That might be our next podcast guest. Where is it? It's in my bag somewhere.

Don't worry. We're not in a hurry. It's in my background somewhere. Don't worry, we're not in a hurry. Yeah, I'd go up and host and then bring up Erickson and then go back up and do another 15 in between them, then bring her up and then close with it.

No, the only time I've seen you other than in San Jose or San Francisco was that one time up in Phelps. I think I've seen you here three or four times in San Francisco was that one time up in film. I think I've seen you here three or four times in San Francisco, probably four

times. I mean, I've seen a lot of your performances. I'm always happy to see you. Seriously. There's the blow and smoke up your ass section of the podcast, but there's very few comedians who I can watch over time.

Like I will enjoy people for a bit. And then generally speaking, they run the same laps again and again. And I've kind of done after a while. Chappelle changes all the time and you change all the time. I like both of y'all a lot and never get tired of you. Yeah. I guess your act grows with you.

How old are you now? 54. I'll be 54 in June. You're young. I'm rounding up still. I'll be 55 in a couple weeks. I used to be like you back when I was young. Hey, lady. Make yourself at home.

We're just podcasting. Since you were going to be late, I had a jam and a different guest early. What did you do last night? Last night we went and saw the Sharks play. Friends of mine have an arts collective in

San Jose. Shout out to Local Color to do lots of really cool shit in San Jose. One of the things they did was an event with the Sharks where they had a bunch of different artists paint these little shark heads in different ways and auction them off

with signatures by Sharks players on it. We went to an event at the Sharks last night. It was really fun. Who were they playing? Nashville. And it was a blowout. It was 8-0 Nashville. It was really embarrassing.

The Sharks couldn't pass for shit, so we left. We were like, okay, this is – And what did you do afterwards? We walked down to a bar that I'll recommend for y'all later. It is a really strange place. It used to be a blues bar called the, it was like a New Orleans style restaurant called the Poor House Bistro. And they had to move the restaurant. But over the years at the bistro, they built this patio with a stage outside. And last night we discovered that the patio and the stage are still operating as a bar,

even though the house has moved. So like we saw it, we were walking past like that place is still open. We went in and had some drinks in there. It was fucking great. There was a band playing. It's like way cooler now than it used to be because it's so freaking strange now.

It's just a patio. Did you close it down? No. The only reason I'm asking what you did last night is I noticed we both had the booze shakes at lunch. Well, I got home and then I got my own supply. I was really happy on

some level that Original Joe's was closed because I knew so many of the shows that i've tanked here because we started whiskey sours so many shows i'll take credit for one of those but well i've been to original joe's without you you said we i assumed you met you or not well whoever is around fair enough fair enough or just me yeah uh so yeah but I did have a margarita with you just because I was but I saw you eating tacos

and I'm glad I got something I could eat with a fork are you a regular boozer? no matter of fact if I was shaking that was probably not from the booze probably just whatever nervous condition that I don't know. Nervous condition.

Wow. That I didn't know I had until you've observed it. So maybe you've just diagnosed me, Doug. I need to go to the doctor. Are you going to tell Trish that you smoked a cigarette or is she going to find out here? She just found out right now. Sorry, Trish. You told me there's nothing we can't talk about. No, you're right.

Was that just out of nerves? Or are you a former smoker? I'm a former smoker. And I'm still an occasional smoker. Can't believe your kid didn't show up for this. I know. He knows this. This is not a surprise to anybody.

This is not like some earth-shaking news. It would have been so much more fun to talk with you if he was here. But probably not about his mom. Yeah, it would have been so much more fun to work with you if he was here but probably not about his mom yeah yeah it would have been interesting he's a you know both my kids are very sensitive they're both sweet fucking kids and you know they've been through

hard hard adolescence and they're both coming out on the other side as really really cool young adults but they both still had a hard time and then you know they bear the scars of it. Is there a part of you that's glad they're gone?

My kids? Yeah. Did you go through any kind of post-partum depression when they had to move on? If Trisha hadn't shown up with two kids of her own, then maybe we'd be having a different conversation.

Oh no, how would they? I having a different conversation. Oh no. I was so happy for you until now. So it's like going back to the top of the slide on, on teenage years. So yeah, I don't, but because Tricia's got, these kids are with an ex who has the kids 50% of the time.

So we've got a really great situation right now where 50% of our lives are as empty nesters and then 50% we've got these great kids to hang out with. So it's actually a pretty nice balance. You like kids? Yeah. Do you get to yell at them and stuff? You know, that's a great question. You've been together for how long?

You should know that. I'm right off the top, two and a half years. So the kids, I haven't had to or wanted to yell at them yet. I don't suppose there'd be any reason for me to hold back should I need to. How did they cotton to your arrival?

I think they like me. I think they like me. They seem to. They're still not quite teenagers so as they get to be teenagers the truth will out. They seem to. All right. And, you know, they're still not quite teenagers. So as they get to be teenagers, the truth will out. Like, they're going to be, you know, food eater motherfucker pretty soon. Food eater motherfucker. What about the axe?

Is that civil? Yeah, that's civil. Oh, good. She's friends with my band mates uh wife so she's part of the kind of extended scene it's a good thing we're all copes it yeah yeah we know too many people in that kind of uh erickson was stuck in peoria forever waiting for his fucking last kid to turn 18. And he talked about it for years and years. As soon as the last one's 18, I'm out of here. And I think it was probably happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday. Bye. Get in the van. Car's loaded. My son lives in Oakland still, so he and I see each other every other week pretty much. My daughter lives up in Olympia, Washington we just saw her a couple weeks ago I don't see her as much as I'd like to

Olympia's not a good town for depression no it's a great town for depression you've got a lot of company so she's up there suffering with all the students at Evergreen State College I don't know why she contacted

me, but I should give her my new number if she ever needs anything. We have a crisis line. Yeah, Doug is like a support system for our entire family. Yeah, I feel connected to your family. We feel connected to you. I mean, it's

a funny thing. It's a strange relationship. I think I met the daughter, didn't I? I don't think you've met either of my kids. I know my son's really excited to meet you tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it. For some reason I thought I'd met the daughter, but maybe not.

Actually, Doug's not doing a meet and greet tomorrow. That's fine. We'll buy the VIP package tomorrow. That's fine. That's fine. We'll, you know, it's not clear. We'll buy the VIP package next time.

Paul, I have you on the list, but there's no plus. If you can just sit in the parking lot and don't smoke by the doorway, because that old man gets really fucking angry. You know what? The funny thing about you getting shit for smoking out back at that place is that me and Andy were smoking out front. And then my partner John, my band partner, Andy smoked me and John out right before the show. Chances are it's probably your weed anyway.

I know, right? Yeah, it's Andy's. It's not Andy's weed. It wasn't Andy's weed. Yeah. Hurry up, let's smoke this. Fair enough. Okay, let's

I'm going to pour one more and say goodbye, Paul. Again, the website or waxmoonmusic.com. We're on Spotify, Apple Music, all the places you can find digital music. Look for our LP, Wax Moon, Hello Morning. We've got a

couple other EPs out and stuff as well. Vinyl for Hello Morning is now available. Get us up on Bandcamp. You get all that shit. Do we even have a record player? Yeah. Alright, cool. It's Good Morning After Music. When you get home and you're nursing

a hangover, put on the Wax Moon record. It'll do you just right. Fantastic. I'm glad you came on. It's good catching up and hopefully tomorrow night I have new shit because he was at my show in fucking San Francisco and hopefully some of it's different.

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