The Flycast - $60 Million a Day - #018

Episode Date: April 6, 2018

$60 Million a Day - #018 by The Flycast

Spotlight of Russia. Yeah. Did you see the video? I don't even, I don't know what it's for, though. I don't either. Apparently it's... He has like a... He has a beef against...

Like some other fighter? No, I think it's against... What is... I almost said the W... UFC. He has like beef with UFC. So we went to... Actually, I could be wrong.

I'm not going to even say that because I might be wrong. I thought it was against a specific person. Is it? I forget the tweet I saw, but that's what it seemed like. Is that he has beef with another fighter? Okay, so apparently someone else, I think another fighter, him and his friends all found, they have, like, beef with Conner's crew or something. Right.

And they found Connor's friend, I guess, someone in the crew and like cornered him and were basically like try to like like rilely him yeah or something just like bullying him pretty much and like obviously conner none of his friends were there it was just all that so they so Connor and his friends found that out and then went in I guess through chairs at the window he was in maybe because there's a van I saw the video of the apparently that was it and then so Connor got all of his guys to go after him and that's why he was that's crazy that's what i read it could be

that's what i read on twitter i saw like two could be completely two different videos and one guy like in one video you can see somebody like throwing trash cans and you're just like damn who is that and then another video it's a close up of somebody in the actual van like who what the hell's going on and the dude throwing trash cans is connor mcgregor and so they're just like why is this guy throwing shit and he's like what the fuck that's Connor And then somebody in the back's like, I can't wait to fucking kill him. I was just like, I was watching, I was like, thank God my life's like, chill.

Doesn't, I wonder what his life is like, too. Because he doesn't, he, uh, like has beef with the Irish or he had beef with some, like, mafia type thing. What? Apparently, yeah. It was like, maybe he has connections in the fucking Irish car. cartel or something and then but like i think an american he has like beef with some kind of mafia i don't know is if it's like american or irish or what but apparently he has he's got beef do you see the uh

dana interview yeah he was just like he was like connor's doing everything in his power to tarnish the legacy that he's made and it was like fuck like do you care though i don't Connor. Oh, I thought you were saying to do fans care. I'm not even like a fan, but I... Should Connor care? Yes. He's made so much money.

Yeah, and I don't even think it's money at this point. Because I think people aren't fans of Connor McGregor because of how proper he is, you know? Like, it's cool to see the way he conducts himself in interviews, like, after fights. Like, even if he wins or he loses, like, for the most part, he's pretty down to earth. It's just that he does a really good job of selling the fight by his shit talk. Antics? Yeah, his antics. But I think when he wins a fight or when he loses a fight, especially when he loses a fight, he's pretty like, he was a good opponent.

He was a good, you know, he's a great competitor. He's always a humble, like, winner and loser. Yeah. I don't know about winner. I don't know about winner either. But loser at least. Yeah. He's never like a complainer.

or anything like that. Welcome to the podcast. We are still sponsorless. I was wondering what you were doing. I just tore the Gatorade rapper off my Gatorade. For those who are listening. Because I'm not making Gatorade money.

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I was talking to, I was talking to Sam. I don't know how the hell we started talking about Michael Vick. But we started talking. We were talking about Michael Vick yesterday. Oh, yeah. The number, number seven. Oh, yeah, because number seven was my number. What was your number in basketball?

I had a bunch of different numbers. My, like, final number that I retired, death grade. They hung the jersey up in Hagerstown, fucking South Hagerstown High School. They hung my number 15 jersey up. Not really. We were just talking about numbers.

Obviously, I think 23 and 10. I like the most popular numbers. Like when I think numbers, I think of 23. Everybody was 15 and like 31. I was always seven. I'm trying to think of if I was ever a lower number than 15. I don't remember. Whenever I play roulette, I always play two, which is Brandon's number three, which is Blake's number.

And then seven, which is my number. I always play seven. I play, wait, what was the point? You and Sam? Okay, well, it's going to get a lot darker than that. So do your thought of what? What you were playing in roulette? Seven, ten.

710 15, 23 like 31 3 3 You play the board I'd switch it up

I've never I've left a casino once with winnings and that was $80 because I was like I'm leaving I left one time Every other time it's leaving

down like at least 400 Jeez I left one time up 1100 and then I left one time up 400 and then everything else I'm just down 200 because I only play 200 Okay So I'll be down 200 and I'll leave

And it's so hard to leave What if you get up 200? What if I go up 200 I just keep playing So if you go down to 200 you're done? I go in with $200 And then I say Like if I That's all in play

See I need to do that Yeah you need to do that But usually mine was 400 Oh. But I would usually take out 400, lose 400, and be like, fuck that, get like 200 out, went back my 400, then lose the 400. Yeah. So what was Sam saying about Michael Vair?

Well, here's where it gets dark. So we were talking, I forgot what we were talking about. Oh, we were talking about pit bulls. That's what we were talking about. I was just saying the nicest dog I've ever met in my life was a pit bull, and she grew up with a pit bull. So she, like, is kind of like, she has a love for pit bulls and she can't, like, it annoys her whenever, you know, there's like a stigma around pit bulls and people don't like them. But I can understand both sides of it because the same way that she grew up and had an amazing time with a pit bull, there's probably, you know, there's hundreds of people out there who either, you know, had a family member, like, die from a pit bull or, like, have also, you know, been injured or know someone that's been injured by a pit bull.

so I get both sides of it and I was just saying well like she was just like I just don't understand like why people would be so upset like or why people hate pit bulls and I was like well I think it's the same way as any other dog like any other dog they could be the nicest dog in the entire world and then they just flip and hate one particular dog or one particular human and they'll like attack them and usually it's just a dog so it's like whatever but pit bulls are so they're so built and they're so powerful. And it's like if they hate one thing, like, that's a life or death situation

at that point. And they can be friendly with every other person, every other animal that they ever come in contact with. But that one snap, like, that could be pretty damaging. You think you could take a pit bull if it attacked you? I think it's situational.

I could take a pit bull if there was a chair beside me. How would you use a chair? I feel like, I would, I would, I wouldn't even like want a chair in that situation. Like if it was just me versus pit bull 10 feet in front of me and just charge each other. We boat just. It's like in a movie.

Me and a pit bull jumping. Tackling each other. You would, that's how you would go about it? No. Realistically, I'd probably get charged. Be like, ah, start getting bit my arm. And then I would probably. I always tell myself if a dog comes after me, I'm choking it out.

That's a good way of doing it. It's kind of dark to think about, but if it's a pit bull charging at you, trying to kill you. I'm just wondered if I could do that, though. Like choke out. I was surprised today. Little ass, what's Billy's dog? Champ. Champ.

I was walking champ, and that fool is, like, strong. Like, to, like, hold back the leash, like, takes effort. Like, he can pull me. Yeah. It was surprising. So, but, like, I'd like to think if a pit bull was charging me, it's just a dog. Yeah. It might, like, fuck me out with a bite.

But realistically, I'd think if it's life or death, I'd kill it. Yeah. I would like to think so, at least. But I don't have experience. Like, it could fucking. But the thing is, is so much shit is happening. If something is attacking you, whether it's a dog or any kind of animal or person now that I think about it, There's so much shit going on at one time that it's like situational.

Like a pit bull could attack you 10 times and probably one out of those 10 times, you would die. You know what I mean? I don't know. Seven out of those 10 times you would kill the pit bull and the other time. I feel like I'd kill it every time. I don't think so. It would have to. Well, imagine like 10 times.

So many random things could happen. You could run. It's just not good enough. It's just not skilled enough A pit bull But it has no skill It's a skill It's faster than you

Most likely it's stronger than you But no skills Yeah it's not smarter than you But it's I'm gonna kill it Nah I think I could take it I mean I'd like to think so too I'd like to think that

If something attacked me Like I think it'll it'll bite me and like fuck me up But Ultimately you're wanting Ultimately like it's getting in this headlock, and I'm squeezing its brains out. I guess not to be dark because we're talking about literally killing an animal. What the hell?

So that's what, and then that, that transferred me into, like, thinking, like, a lot of people don't understand, like, how crazy the Michael Vic what, the Michael Vic thing was when it happened. Because, like, I mean, a lot of people do, and I'm not saying a lot of people don't, but I'm saying people that are watching sports now, that are just now getting into it, like high schoolers. These goddamn millennials. Yeah. We're millennials.

Am I? I don't know. What is a millennial? I don't know. People that, I guess we're not millennials. I don't know. I don't know if I'm a 90s kid or not. I was seven when it was 2000.

Only 90s kids will remember this. I'm more of like a millennial, I guess. It's like, I don't really remember the 90s. Yeah. But I was there. Half the people that tweet out only 90s kids remember this weren't kids when it was 90s. I feel like the only 80s. that matters is like 16 where were you what decade was it from like 16 to like

22 that's what you that's I care about right out of middle school or early or halfway through middle school to high school that's when you're growing up well that's when you're that's when you're finding yourself like childhood so I guess like I'm like childhood would be like elementary school to middle school. That's when you're growing up, like, going to play outside with your friends and, like, figuring out what sports you like and collecting football cards.

As a kid, I was always, I was in West Virginia, I think, more than Maryland, but I considered Maryland my home. Yeah. Because, like, all my family lived in Maryland. Yeah. And eventually, I moved back to Maryland, went to school and stuff.

Yeah, I grew up in Florida until I was seven, and then I only stayed in Georgia for three years and then I was in North Carolina for 12 years or something, not 12 years. I was in North Carolina for eight years but I always considered those three years in Georgia as my like childhood.

Well, go ahead. Because that's just like when I grew up. What was the point of the Michael? We're coming back to. How often does this happen? Because I'm like keeping track of it now after like the first time I was like, all right, I'm going to get to

the end of this Michael Vick thing. And we've already gone off track like three times. But it's like... And I feel like another podcast, it's like, do I not even... Do I just like lose myself in the moment and not even come back to it ever? Sometimes, like, when we first started the flycast, I was like so into the idea of it that I would like rewatch or re-listen to all of our flycast to like see how to improve and stuff. And there's so many times where I'm like, damn, we never went back and finished that thought. Yeah.

So, anyway... We were talking about pit bulls. We were talking about like, like why people hate pit bulls. And then I was like trying to tell her. I was like, man, I feel like a lot of people don't realize how crazy the Michael Vick thing was. Because he was like a top, he was like a top five, top 10 athlete, like as far as popularity. It's probably like. It's like Alan Iverson, Michael Vick.

Yeah, top five. Like he was like. You think top five? I was going to say it. He was like a fucking, dude. It was like, because he just like changed the game. Yeah,

he did. Like that fool was like a running back as a quarterback. Running back quarterback. Wide receipt fucking fast as shit. Like, he came in and like change the game. I was like a young kid and I remember asking my dad. And I was just like,

like just out of curiosity. I was just like, dad, why is, because I used to collect football cards. And I was like, dad, why is Michael Vic the only,

the only African American quarterback and he was just like that's a really weird question to ask he's like he's not and then he's like telling me all the other ones that like coal pepper and everything else Dante coal pepper

and he was just like Randy I forget he was like I don't he and he I remember him telling me he was like I don't know he was like it just seems like that's just always like I don't what is what is the reason behind that anyway that's another

I was about to get off track you can. Why are, why are quarterback's white and running back's black? Why? It makes no sense. I don't know. Because I think quarterback, that's just, well, it's just more of like a nerd position. A nerd? Like you at, they, I think they do a, they do a, they have to do a lot of studying and coaching and shit like that. And that's just what more white people do right now. Anyway, to be blunt. So then, like, yeah, he was like a top five. Like, he was the shit. And then I think at the same time, his brother was gaining a lot of traction at Virginia Tech.

I forgot his name because he didn't do it as well. He didn't do as well. But it was like Michael Vic. Michael Vic. And then his brother was doing stuff at Virginia Tech. And so there was just literally, he was like a celebrity, like a top five athletic celebrity. And then out of nowhere, he goes to jail for dog fighting or for creating the atmosphere of dog fighting. I don't know if he was technically charged for dog fighting, but it was done at his house, right?

And I think people now, the same way that people think like, I don't know, the same way that if you weren't there, like, if you weren't, like, conscious about it or you didn't follow, like, when it happens, like, you don't really understand, like, how big of a deal it was. Like, like, people think, oh, Michael Vick, the dog fighting guy, but it wasn't. wasn't that, it was, holy shit. Like, he was the shit. Like, and now he's tried for dogfighting. Yeah. And then, so then Sam, Sam said to me, she was like, I just don't understand how people, how could you do something like that?

Like, how could, how could you set up a dog fighting ring or ring? And then me being the, the devil, not, sounds so stupid to say devil's advocate in that situation because there's no, there's no. there's never a time where dog fighting is moral. You know what I mean? Like it's a disgusting thing. I can't watch. If I saw a dog fight in the street between two wild dogs,

my stomach would churn. You know what I mean? But I would say to, I said to her, I was like, well, he was like one of the most famous people in the world at the point. And,

you know, there comes a time where like, if you have everything, like, what makes you excited anymore? And so maybe that had to... I mean, yeah, that could definitely be a reason. But I think his, like, I think he, like, just grew up around it.

Oh, did he? Yeah. Just like, in the hood, that's like a fucking common type of thing. You just... Like, it's not just Michael Vick. It's in, like, every hood. Every, like, major city probably has some kind of dog fighting thing. That's fucking crazy.

But it's... I don't understand it either. How that... How do you get to that point in your life? How do you, like, hurt... How do you hurt a dog like that? Because I could, like, smack a dog if it's just, like, that's the wrong thing.

Like, 1V1 Fortnite, I'm about to get the last guild, jumps up. Get off me. Maybe just out of... I don't know. I just, I can't find an excuse other than a 1v1 on Fortnite, and I'm about to... starts chewing on your cables.

Yeah. I don't know how people, like, what in their brain could possess them to... I think it was okay. Yeah. It's fucking, like, weird. It is very weird. It's like psychotic kind of. Yeah, it definitely is.

I can't imagine, like... Like, because it's a bunch of guys gathered around two animals and one of the animals is going to live. The other one is going to die. That shit, I can't even... that's crazy to me. That's fucking crazy. Yeah.

I don't understand it. I don't understand it. But I don't know. These people like grow up with it. I didn't realize he had grown up with it. I don't know if he did. But there's a lot of people that do, I'm sure. I thought it just got to a point where you're,

because then I started telling her like, have you seen all like the conspiracies or like the stories where like billionaires and high, high class politicians, like, go into the woods and, like, do crazy shit, like, once a year. I would. Yeah. That's my goal. That's my goal is to, like, just have that amount of,

not that amount of money, like, fucking 500 mil to a bill. But, like, millions. Yeah. Like, and just be, just know I'm set for life. Yeah. And then just do what I want from that point. Yeah. Man.

But these, like, the stories, and they, they, like, kind of covered it a little bit on, like,

uh, what's that show? Dude, what's the house of cards? They, like, he like, kind of talks about it a little bit

or covers it, but there's, like, actual stories of people that, like, bodyguards that'll say, yeah, like,

we hold a perimeter around this, like, section of woods and they go in there and they do, like, weird, like,

like, like, like, sacrifice things, and, like, light shit on fire, and they all have sex

with each other and they do yeah like crazy drugs okay not that yeah that's like i thought you just meant like going in the woods and doing like fucking mushrooms with all your billionaire buddies well that that could be what it is that could just be what it's like they just go on and probably but then like people twist the stories and say they do like weird like cult like shit yeah i remember i got convinced as a kid to or that someone could literally dude oh man that that was How dumb our kids. At least me as a kid. But as a kid, I was convinced that there was someone in the world that was in, like,

the Secret Service or, like, was kept secret. But there was someone in the world that could form, like, a fireball out of their hands. And, like... You thought it was real? Yeah. And I was a kid, and, like, Dragon Ball is the U.S. popular. And I remember getting told, like, how he does it. And it's like...

But... It was just like sit that he would just like sit down and like basically meditate or like concentrate on just like making a fireball and shooting it. And I remember sitting down one time and like trying to do it just like in my grass and my yard. You tried to fireball. I tried to make a fireball. Is that how your head your hair turned red? Yes. That's crazy.

And nothing was the same. Oh. So then I kind of like like. like I started like like I guess just thinking out loud with her and I was like at one point at what point do you have like so much money and so much power and influence in the world that nothing excites you anymore so like what do you have to do at that point and at that point you're just a billionaire or a high class politician that goes into the woods and fucking has sex with people and sacrifices things and I wonder if that's really true, though. Yeah, I mean, it could be completely false. I think stuff like that is like what us normal people want to believe. Dude, there's so much money in the world.

It's stupid. Yeah. It is. What would you do if you had, I guess you can't even answer that because you can't even like consciously think about what you would do. I mean, I would do anything I wanted. If you had like $2 billion, you could buy, like, like, you've already bought everything. You've already tried every drug.

You've already done everything imaginable that you can do. So what in this world would excite you? Like, besides, like, selfishly excited you. Like, obviously, like, helping people, like, doing, like, doing positive shit. Let's, let's put all the positivity. Let's put all the positive shit aside. Like, yes, you could donate. Yes, you could build awesome stuff.

And that would make you feel great. But what would you do that would excite you? Because what um, there's a conspiracy about God, which is like, you know, what would you do? If you've already done everything, can do anything, what you, what would you do? And then it would be to wish you didn't know you were God. So here we are. And like right now we don't know we're God. But it was because we were God.

and we were just like tired of knowing everything. We've already done everything. So it was like, I want to not know I'm God. I don't know how I got on that. What? I tried to keep up. To come back to your point, wait, what were you saying? Because how did I get on God?

I was saying that like if you had so much power and so much influence where you've already done everything selfish that you could possibly do, what would excite you in? Yeah, I don't know. why that that just reminded me of the god. I mean, I can't worry. I feel like, but what if they, just like how I said with the God thing, what if they were like, I'm about to just go be poor as fuck again?

Like, what if they just throw it all away and we're like started a new life? I feel like that has to cross like at least like 30% of people like that. Like start the game over. Yeah. Like they literally won. Like they won the game of life, whether lucky or luckily and they worked hard. Like, they did it. So at what point do they just think?

I don't know. What's winning, though? If life is the game of life, what's winning? I guess, well, anybody that is won, we don't know the names of. Unless besides, like, Bill Gates. Like, well, what if he was, like, low-key fucking miserable? I mean, he might be. Do you consider that winning, though?

But is he miserable because he's done? done everything. Like, I think the goal in life is to not, is to do what you want to do, but don't do everything. Because if you do everything, I knew I was on the right track. I don't know. Like Drake said, I'm always pacing it so that I'm always chasing it. Like, a Drake lyric just summed up the last 30 minutes of this podcast.

Just made, just summed up life. I don't know. That's what, I'd like to think that if I was that powerful and had that much money that I wouldn't do some weird shit. I know that I would. I know that I would do some like, especially like weird, like, you can, you can pay anyone to do anything, basically. That's why, like, you hear of. Like, you could just pay for like a 20 person orgy just right here. You could.

Have you seen the video of Mayweather and he's sitting there in his suite? He's like has, what does he like own the penthouse to the Ritz Carlton? He does, he has something like that. But he's just sitting there, just sitting there like doing this and like the shot is from behind him. So you see him and he's just doing this. And there's like 50 girls in his room just all twerking. Really? He's just sitting there like this.

I'm just like, it wasn't a music video. It wasn't for a promotion. It was somebody's Snapchat just randomly, look, watch, just randomly like hanging out with Mayweather and he's just chilling in his place with 50 girls. Like, yeah. But at that point, does that excite him? It's probably like what he does. It's probably like part of his routine, but is it exciting?

I don't know. It's more exciting. Maybe it's like pizza. It's probably more. that's true. Like pizza, you don't ever really get tired of pizza. That's true. So do you ever get tired of like twerking and girls and?

I don't know. But at that point, it's crazy that at that point, one of those girls is probably more excited to be there. Like, every one of those girls is probably more excited to be in the presence of Mayweather than he is that there are girls there. Yeah. Yeah. It's like he's gifting them still. It's weird. It's weird because it's like don't like obviously it's a, it's a, I wonder, like you're not supposed to, you don't objectify women.

Like you're not like that's the thing you're not supposed to do. And I, I don't do that. But I'm saying in that situation, there's 50 girls in a room trying to please one guy. Like how else are you supposed to view it? You know what I mean? And it's like, so you forget at that point when you're seeing Mayweather look at 50 girls just on his casual, You forget that those are actual girls. Like those girls are there being paid to do what? To twerk? Are they getting paid? Why else would we be there? To hang out with Mayweather? Clout.

Instagram. I would go. You would twerk for Mayweather. Yeah, probably. If I was a girl, probably. I mean, yeah, maybe you're right. Just to be in that sort of, I mean, people do it. Just for like clout, people would do a lot of,

shit. Well, I know the the girls that like the girl, I've been like I watched Narcos and watched like a few documentaries. So I've been like on this Paulo Escobar wave right now. And the girls that he would fly girls out, put them up

in hotels and they would wait until his business meetings were over. And then he would bring them out and pay them. So those girls got paid. I don't know about it. How does he find them? Just models. models and like the top quality hookers.

But how does he get in touch with them and talk to, like, because they didn't have Twitter and stuff? That was his, that was his boys' jobs. His Pablo Escobar, he's not going to go door to door to different brothels. How does the entire, like, country know you're a drug dealer, but you still can't get arrested for it? Because he... Like, he can bang a random model, but can't... But, like, a cop can't find him and arrest him. Well, the thing is, is that the cops, he...

Payed them? Yeah. He owned the cops. So, like, it took, it took the only good cops left in Columbia and help from outside to take him down. Because whenever the cops would be like, like, the police officers would say, all right, we found him. We know where he is. We're going. He would know that they were coming in, like, less than an hour.

And so he would leave. And that's when he was on the run. For a long time, he wasn't even on the run. He was just fighting back. He was like, yeah, come on. And he would fucking... Just win. He would win, yeah.

Damn. And then he got... And then he turned himself in and said, the only way that you can charge me and I'll plead guilty is if I build my own prison and then all of my...

All the people that you're going to charge that go to that prison are people in my gang. So then... Or my cartel. So then he went to prison, his own prison. and his cell was a two-story,

had a king-sized bed, he ran his operation out of his own prison, and then all of his cartel members were his cellmates, and he just did business there. And then he still wanted a lesser sentence. So he, like, got his lawyer to... He had killed thousands of people.

What sentence? Is he alive? No, he got murdered. Or not murdered. he I guess is it murdered if he are on the run and you run from a police officer that killed yeah yeah killed damn that's crazy I've that I don't like that I didn't realize imagine being a cop and you're what would you call it your cop your police force was like like had to take down Pablo and you know he doesn't run and he's just going to a fight back.

Like, that's going to war at a fucking house. Well, I think, I think for the majority of it, the people from America that helped out were like volunteer. Like, that's what they wanted to do. Because I think for a little while, well, for a little while America didn't want to get involved, but then they did get involved once Reagan was president because he realized how much, like, cocaine was coming into Miami. So he was like, oh, this is a huge deal.

Or like his, you know, that's just how the government evolved. He was like, oh, it's a huge deal. How much cocaine is coming to Miami? We have to stop it. So then America got involved. It was like, we have to get rid of Pablo Escobar. Like, he was making $60 million a day. Was he the richest?

Who makes, did someone make more than that? No. He was making, I think it was like. So he was the richest man. Probably in the world. Damn. Actually, well, I don't know. I don't know.

Like, is that more than Bill Gates? $2 billion a year? Wait, Bill Gates makes $2 billion? No. Bill Gates does, his net worth is it? Well, is it? It's like $60 billion, is it? It's what?

I think. Well, I think for a while. I'm about to look up the most... The richest... The richest... The richest... How much they make. I don't know.

But I think it's... All I know is that... I told you the... I don't know if I've talked about it on the flycast yet, but the planes, they would, you know how they, they would transfer,

transfer cocaine? 112 billion. But that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, estimated net worth.

The Amazon founder? Is what? That's who makes that, his estimated worth is $112 billion. That's the richest made of the world. Yeah. Dude, did you know? So how much is,

I don't really know, how they configure like net worth and isn't that like oh excuse me isn't that uh all your like houses and everything you own combined how much that would be worth i don't know i have no idea how they figure that out i just want to know how much this amazon dude makes a day and if that's what was bob lo megan two million a day right well the organization like his cartel is 60 million a day 60 million a day I said two The way he would

Well that was at like the peak And obviously it fluctuated But the way that sometimes They would transfer cocaine Because it got so hard to smuggle that much in That they would Load up an airplane Full of cocaine

And then fly it in And land the plane And then evacuate the plane And just leave it there Million dollars to buy a plane and you're making $60 million a day. It's an investment. I wish I could buy a plane and just leave it there.

Just leave it. Dude. It's crazy. And at one point, he ran for governor. He ran for governor, yeah. Or president. Of Columbia? And then he was actually probably going to be president

until his mugshot got leaked. because he got arrested. And he got arrested on purpose, like jokingly. Like, I'm just going to get arrested because I own all of the police. So, like, one cop was like, we're going to take him down. They gave him a mugshot. And then he was like, just so you know, I could kill your family in the next 10 minutes. And then they let him go.

And so then he, so then he, like, got his mugshot. And the only reason he went to the police officer in the first place, is because he needed to find out who the mole was in his cartel. And so... What's the mole? Like somebody in the cartel was telling the police. The rat? Yeah.

Why do you call it a mole? Well, I guess the mole is a mole the other way. Like, a mole is a rat. Yeah. A mole is... But... I don't know. Regardless.

I've just never heard... For real? As a rat. Well, have you ever heard mole before? Not in the term. and you're using it. Oh, okay. Well,

I think I'm a fucking mole on your face. Oh, well, mole is another word for that. Dude. A mole is an inside man that's betrayed.

Okay. So he was trying to find the rat in his, in his cartel. So he went willingly to the police station and then, let me go or I'll have

your family fucking. How the fuck? He's even smiling in his mugshot. Like, look up, look up Pablo Escobar mugshot. That's it.

it like just smiling casually. And then he's just like it's not even it's like a he's fucking idiots. He's like he's like you don't know what I could do to your family right now and then also you're not going to just let me go.

You're going to tell me who the inside guy is. He found out who the inside guy was and just murdered him. Like did he did he go into jail just to find out who it was? Yeah. That's the reason he went.

So that mugshot is probably the only only reason, well, based off of the documentaries that I've seen, that mugshot is the reason he was never president of Columbia. Damn. Because he had so much money and he couldn't launder it all that he just started giving it away to the poor. And so the people in Columbia, like he would like... I wonder if that was, if it was like cash.

It was. It wasn't like... Can he even have a bank account? No. Because he has so much cash. So he, like, there would be lines of. poor people coming by like a soup kitchen, but instead of soup, they would just give them a stack of money.

No way. Yeah. Just money. They would just hand them money. So then he was winning all the votes because he was giving away money. Like you don't even care about political. Like what? I don't care.

Damn. That's the next strat. Yeah. The next presidential strat. Just give away money. That's how you beat Trump. How much money do you think you'll make, how much money would you like to make in your lifetime. I don't know. I don't

I have no idea. I have no idea. I was, I was thinking about that earlier. Whatever we were talking about. I forget what fucking sprung it up. But Bill Gates and shit. Or who were we talking about? That was, oh, we were just talking about the richest man in the world.

Yeah. And I was like, I wonder how much I'm going to make. Like, in my life. Because. Yeah. When you said they make 60 mil a day, like, am I even going to make half of 60 mil in my lifetime? Yeah. Am I even going to make a mill?

Like, yeah. Yeah, unless I die. Yeah. I don't know why I said it like that. Unless I die. I don't know if I die. I would like to make. since you won't say

hmm how much am I going to make in my lifetime I would like to be able to say I've made this is going to be a stretch but over a hundred mil in your lifetime

yeah I would like my like net worth if like every by the time I'm like 60 and like everything's added up be like oh maniac's net worth. I'm still maniac's net worth is

106 mil. Damn. That's hard. That is hard. Is it or is it? Well, I don't think 21 Savage right now is worth his net worth. I don't even think it's like 2 mil. That's 21. Really? I think Hex looked it up because I looked at, because Hex was like, well, I mean, I think if you look up scumps worth, it says like, less than what it is too. Okay. I mean, it's probably true.

I feel like I've looked up scum before. And you were just like, it had said like 600,000 or something. You were like, yeah. I tried Google. I was like, I got the Intel. Edit the wiki page.

Yeah. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. But I remember Hex was just like, because he was like, I got a 12 car garage and I only have six cars. He like,

heard that line and he was like, this guy can't afford six cars. He started like looking at it up. He was like, how much is it a net worth? Then he got it. He was like, I don't know.

It's got to be worth. Yeah. It's, his net worth is worth. He has a shit ton of money, obviously. He has millions. But I think,

I do genuinely think the rap game, like over exaggerates how much money they make. Yeah. Because it's like YouTube. Well, it's like YouTube, but, because people think people in YouTube

everyone that does YouTube is just rich but it's really like the top it says anything the top 1% blew up and nobody in Cod is the top 1% like people in Cod make a lot of money people in Halo make a lot of money but the top 1% now is like PewDie Pye

Ninja Allie A that's crazy those people just the fact that you said Ninja well ninja is I know like that it's crazy

crazy. I thought about it, like, literally like 20 minutes ago because I, I, all I ever do now is brainstorm what I'm going to do with my life and be happy again. And I started thinking about, I started thinking about like, as much, as many as excuses as I, as I can think of for why not to do this like Halo Doc or whatever, why it's probably best to do it now that, Halo has somebody has Ninja. Like a ninja interview for Halo, I feel like he still has enough respect for Halo that he would do it. And I don't even know if I'd,

I don't know if I'd have to pay him. I'd probably, no. Yeah, exactly. Well, if you just, like, called him at an event or something. When is he going to leave? He's not going to fly out. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I would go to his house. Yeah. So I'm just, I mean, I think that. that, you know, it's now would be a better time than any. Because Halo is as low as it could possibly be with so many people in Halo that everybody knows. Like, you've got to think, like, the people that are popular from Halo

have, like, they've done, like, Golden Boy, like, Maven, Gandhi. Like, they've all gone and done other stuff in e-sports or in gaming, and now Ninja is the forefront of them. Fuck. He passed me as, like, Top Halo YouTube. He passed you? He tombstoneed me.

I don't even know if you saw him. Like, you. He tombstoneed me. I think he passed you in H1. Yeah. And then he. Yeah. Took to the skies.

Then he skyrocketed away from me. Never to be seen again. He like passed you on the road at H1. And then he, he 50-cent jift me. Flew. He took off. And you were like... No, I was like...

You didn't even notice? I was asleep. I was in bed. Yeah. He really did pass you up. Hard. If you don't... And if you're not careful...

Listen. Oger 2 is gonna pass you up soon too. Should we... Wait, has he been streaming or something like? Yeah. You get like 800 and 900 viewers. Uh-huh. Streaming Fortnite.

Is he really? Because I was in a stream. not too long ago he wasn't like getting viewers like that I just watched his I just watched his stream the other day

and he had 800 viewers so that's Maybe someone hosted him Yeah Or maybe I'm just fucking behind Yeah And I don't know What's popping anymore

So But you know what it is Gonna be Actually I'm I'm a I want to do a flycast Without fucking talking About Fortnite

We said Were you on the podcast? No It was me Hex Jack in midnight.

But we're just like, like we tried to not talk about Fortnite. Yeah. But it was like, there's... It's just annoying. It just comes up. Because it doesn't... It's not even gaming.

It's like there is no such thing as video... Like, it's like Fortnite. And then like everything else is just like... It's there, but I mean, Far Cry is there. And then everything else is just esports. I haven't looked at any of that stuff. Yeah.

Besides... Fortnite. Yeah. No far cry. No nothing. Connor. Because there is nothing else, man. It's like, it's such a good point in gaming history.

But at the same time, it's like I streamed. I streamed yesterday and I started out my stream. I was like, I'm going to try the new PubG map because the new PubG map came out. Every PubG map has been 8 by 8. This was 4 by 4. So it's super small. The same amount of people. It's going to be faster.

It still was, I spawn in, I look for a gun, I run around, I get shot in the back, and I die. And after a while, I was just like, you know, fuck that. Like, I, I'm glad people like it. I'm glad other people enjoy it. I'll watch Doc play it every once in a while, but it's not fun. Like, I don't have fun playing it. And especially with Doc and Shroud, like, they land somewhere and they can just sit there and all the stream snipers just come in there just

they just da da da da da they just get as a ton of kills but for me people were just like hey hitch you're playing this and I'm just like yeah I'm playing it I'm gonna try out the map's beautiful but you die look at your chat someone types trash time them out possibly permaband so then I go I go from that to trying to play any other game and I'm just like I'm just like I have to go back to Fortnite.

That's the only thing to play. Yeah, it is. It's the only thing to play, only thing to do, apparently. There's literally, I don't know what to, I lost,

like, I lost this word might not fit here at all. Hello? Is that good? Okay. We had a computer pop up. It scared me.

What was I saying? That's the only thing to do. the only thing to do what was I talking about Fortnite Fortnite I had a I think that's how you started it

Oh I forget what I was going to say But what's there to fucking do anymore I don't know Besides Fortnite Because I'm either At the office Or playing Fortnite

I don't know Or Target Yeah I'm running out of options here Well that's why I started playing like I did like a bio-shock.

Go. Actual stuff to do. Oh, like actual, like things to do in life. Human stuff. I don't know. I kind of want to play like, I want to find like a like a soccer, an indoor soccer league or something like that. I want to do a basketball league with all of us. I'd do that.

Me, who would the team be? Me, you, probably Hex, Mike. Me, you, Hex, Mike. I mean, Bose would play. Yeah. I think Kenny used to play. Wait, was Kitty? You played with him.

We played like horse and shit with him. He was like, you know, just typical gamer trash. I'm not good. I would be able to, I could handle him. I'm not good anymore either. I could like bring the ball up the court and like. And look like you're not. And like I'm the guy you should maybe be scared of.

He's the only one on that team that can probably score, but no. Yeah. I'm just good at making it look like I'm good. Because I used to be good. I used to be good. I just can't make shots now. Yeah, me either. I can pass pretty well.

Like the one-handed, around the back. The bounce pass. I was always good at that stuff. I was like the, you know, have I said this? before on the podcast. What? I was like the, do you know who hot sauce is from Am1?

Yeah. I was like hot sauce. Yeah, in middle school. That was like my, because then I think I compared myself to the professor. No, you, no.

You're hot sauce. I'm the professor. Uh-uh. And I'm, you know, I have the handles. You have. Who would you,

since I played, I played basketball, I'd consider my style, like, a hot, the hot sauce type thing. Who would you, be that I would know of for your like soccer style.

Well, obviously it's not because you're not saying you're, you're not saying, before I say this, because this is going to piss people off. You're not saying, like you're not saying, like, you're not saying you are as good as hot sauce. Yeah. I'm just saying that's your style. Yeah. My style was always, my favorite player is like a genre. Yeah. My favorite player growing up was Ronaldino. And Ronaldino was known for how flashy he was. And that's what my,

my coaches used to get super pissed off because before practice, like, I would like hot sauce. I would try to juggle and I would try to like do like bicycle or like like rainbows and like like do crazy cool tricks like like freestyle soccer type tricks.

But then I would get on the field and like my touch wasn't really good or like I would I would miss a wide open net whenever I was inside the 18. Like, I would, I wasn't, sometimes I would struggle with, like, fundamentals. But then at the same time, like, one of my coaches was like, I can't believe you can do all this fucking crazy Ronald, Ronaldino shit at the beginning, like, before we even start

practice, but you can't make a penalty kick. I'm just like, I don't want to go out and practice penalty kicks. I didn't know as a kid. I wish I knew as a kid what, like, practice was. Yeah. Because I just went. I didn't, like, think, like, if I did good, like, that'd be dope to, like, be the man in college and just be hell of nice at ball. Yeah.

And, like, while I'm here, I might as well use my time wisely and, like, practice. I kind of miss. Really concentrate while practicing. Because, like, that's, like, kind of how I came with HALA. Like, there came a certain point where I was, like, I started taking it serious and then started screaming and then really started learning, like, okay, how do I get? better. Yeah. And as a kid, when you're playing sports, you're just like, you just show up.

Yeah. You don't like, you just go through the motions they tell you. You don't actually, like, consciously, like, practice it. Yeah. So it's like instead of, like, Halo, you go from like, oh, shit. Like, I can move around the map pretty well. Like, I can hit my shots to, I know the spawns in this game type on this map because I've played it so many times.

And I never got to that point in sports. It was like, when. Whenever I practiced on my own, I would go out and juggle or I would go out and if I practiced in basketball when I used to play basketball, I would do, like, spend the ball in my finger and try to do like, lower the goal. Yeah, me and my friend would do that. Lower the goal. Play one-on-one, fucking just like dunking and shit. Exactly. It's like, but you're just trying to have fun when you're a kid.

I remember we set up, excuse me, we set up the tramp or, yeah, the basketball hoop besides. the trampoline. And we had a game called slam ball. And it was fun as a kid, but whenever you get older and you, like, actually get on a trampoline and there's a hoop here, you're like, this is small as shit. But as a kid, it was just like four of us jumping on a trampoline flying around, doing like dunk contests and shit. It was super fun.

That was just non-practice basketball. Did you ever have a basketball hoop in a pool? And you would play basketball pool. I'm sure I have, but never like nothing. I don't remember anything. It was always fun trying to like jump off a diving board and do like a between the leg. I used to be nasty at diving board. Like I was so good at everything.

I remember going to the pool. We in camp, I think it was summer camp. In summer camp, we started going to the pool every day. And, like, I was just, I got, like, hell of nice at the diving boards. And I could do, like, a two and a half front flip. And I was, like, 12. And, like, thinking about it, like, back then, I thought I was cool. But, like, thinking about it now, if I saw a 12-year-old do, like, a two-and-a-half front-flip, I'd be like, damn, what the fuck.

And I remember a lifeguard said something to me. I don't remember what he said, but I just remember it. Yeah. Just because I was, I was the hot sauce of diving boards. dude. That's funny. Like the same way, because I was kind of like that where anything that anybody threw at me, like I could just, I could just pick up.

And I'd be decent enough at it in a very small amount of time. And it would like, it would like piss a lot of people. Like a lot of my friends, or not a lot of my friends, but some friends would be like, dude, so annoying that you could just pick shit up and be good at it. The only thing that I could never be good at was Halo. It's the only thing I could never be good at. Right. I tried in Halo Reach and I was just so.

so bad. I was so bad. I can never be good at it. Did you ever have a friend that could do that, but better than you? And it was, it was annoying. Yeah. That was Blake for you, right? Yes. Well, you've told me that, I think, like, five times. Have I really? At least like twice. Because it was like the only person. I was just like, dude. Yeah. Fuck. There's a few of those people. I thought you were going to say your person was Blake. It was a Blake that you know. And I was going to be like, wait. No, my was, I know one kid we all talked about was just this kid Justin that kind of like lived. I lived further away, but then I was friends with everyone in this one neighborhood.

Yeah. But we would just go over there and he's like such the like average Joe. Like he's like, it's not loud or like cocky or, but he's just so naturally good at everything. It's fucking annoying. Yeah. there's a there's a a friend I had like that he like doesn't even try yeah just he was just good there's a friend I had like that in in Georgia too like we we were on the same like the small town that I lived in had like this like local like athletic department and they just ran like different

seasons of different sports we were on the same baseball team the same soccer team and the same basketball team and we were just like and he was always just like well I was better than him at soccer. He was better than me at baseball, and then we were both pretty decent at basketball. I can't even imagine seeing Blake play basketball. Oh, it wasn't Blake. It was somebody else. Oh. Yeah, it was a guy named Cal. But, yeah, I've never seen Blake Pip basketball. He doesn't look like a basketball player. Apparently, apparently he likes to brag about how good he was at a, what's that? Knockout. He used to play knockout. Like, come on. that's like i was gonna say that's like someone telling me they played halo 3 octagon but

do you even know what that is he was blake is nasty at octagon dude did i ever tell you it's you know it's nasty cloud because or straight sick i didn't know straight sick cloud cloud will get like so pissed hearing me say this but like cloud might have been the best, but the one time straight-sick and cloud, like, played, they played for money in a hotel, like, obviously one-v-one. Split-screen? No.

But they played one-v-one in a hotel, like, for money, like, on land. So there's, like, no excuses, and straight-tick beat him by just, like, a few. But, I literally. And I know, like, it's just funny if he heard this, because he hates the fact that he lost that. It's literally like, yo, go to the grave with that just fucking still pissed. Because when Cloud, when Cloud played, it might have even been in Reach. Or it was, maybe it was Halo 3.

There's either Halo 3 or Reach. But Cloud apparently, like, he was hot shit back then. And he would accept random 1V1s from fans. Blake sent him a message that said Octagon. and then he left and he came and he left and then he came back to get on to play and he opened up his his Xbox Live thing and it said

Invite from Cloud and he clicked on it. He clicked on it and already expired so he had already picked up a different person. So Blake always talks about the fact that he missed his chance to play Cloud. He would have got destroyed bad. Probably. I would have to see, I can, if I watch Blake play

for 10 seconds, I would know if he's good. He's not. Yeah. If he had a chance, I guess, or not. There's a video on my old channel. I mean, Halo 5 Octagon was pretty bad, but... I got pretty good. Actually, that's some of the best times of my life.

That's like Octagon and Halo 3. I remember I used to go to my friend's house when this was, oh, I think I met them in 2009. But anyways, I'd go to this house. I was still playing on a tube TV, not even a monitor, and just playing octagon against each other. Like just over and over and over. On land. It was so fun.

And I guess we can talk about this now, but back then they would just, they would literally get high. They'd smoke weed, get high, and then just watch me. And I was, I was like, their entertainment. And they would just geek out about, like, how good I was at Octagon, at least like against them because they're trash but like I would do some crazy on a tube TV it's easier too yeah that's but that was one of the best feelings when someone's just watching you dude and you're just shitting oh yeah I've always said that like

people whenever we would play a monorefare one warfare two like whatever like we would play like scrims or whatever like a couple years ago on my stream like people would come up every once in a while like once every three streams, somebody would come in and be like, dude, I just, I just smoke a lot and then I watch your stream. And for some reason, I feel like I hear that every stream.

And for some reason, that makes me so happy. I don't know. It's kind of like, yeah, I'm not going to say what I, I was just about to say something that I was going to push it too far. But whenever, like,

whenever people smoke and then they do something that they're going to find more entertaining than they would sober, and that one thing that they do is watch my stream, that's flattering as hell. Yeah, it is. I've definitely got that a few times in my stream. I don't know why.

And I always, I always, like, acknowledge it. I'm always like, oh, thanks, man. Thanks for watching this. I used to always get the maniacs high too. Yeah. But you're just like, no. I'm just tired. Yeah.

I'm just in my time. Bed sleepy. Yeah, people always say that to me. It's just high while streaming. I'm just like, no, I can't breathe through my nose. No congested. I'm just always a little tired. Eyes a little red.

Those were good times. Yeah. The good days. The prime of my life. I think that was one thing that I never really did in Cod. We never really like 1 v1. I don't know. Remember?

Rust was a thing, but I never really did that. What would be 2B2? Me, you, Blake and George. What was that? That was, uh, WWR. Yeah, MWR, the 1-V-1 sabotage on on. Dude, that shit was so fun. I think.

How long did we play? I think it was a 45-minute game. But we played a lot. Like, how many hours did we play? We played, we played like for like three hours, but we did, we did like three games. We won one, they won one. Or, yeah, we did three games. We won one, they won one.

Or they won one, they had destroyed us. And then we, like, kind of clutched up and won one. And then by that time, we had realized, we had known every spawn how long it took, like, the map to, like, play out. And so it took 45 minutes to do the next game. Because it's, you know, you play until somebody wins. And I remember on stream, I didn't even look at chat because I was just like, like, in green. There's no time. It's just like, you die.

Like. You die. It's instant spawn up. Dude, that was so much fun. And then I find, I found that like more fun than fucking well, it's because tournaments.

It's re-spun. Oh, yeah. Respond's always more fun. And in WR, all it was was S&D 100% of the time. Dude, I was so pissed when we, or was it you who had the Black

Apps 2 tournament? And then it, we had to switch to ghosts. Yeah, because the hackers. I got on Black Ops 2. I was shitting. I was like, I knew this was my game. Let's go.

Now we had to switch the ghost. I was like, what the fuck? Dude, I can't wait until we do optic plays, Black Ops 2. Because we're going to do that, 2B2 Black Ops too. That'll be fun. Yeah, that will be fun. It will have scuffs by then. Yeah, I was about to say, we need scuffs.

Yeah, I hate. I think they're talking. They're talking to scuff right now. I can't play without a scuff. Dude. Like, I appreciate, I appreciate Roger, like, for what he did. It was a great video, and, like, I'm sure the next one's going to. be great. But like, fuck him for making me miss Monomer for 2 now. Because I had gone like

nine, what is it, eight months, seven months, not even thinking about Mono for 2. I forgot about it. Our episode or yours came out. As soon as I turned it on and heard the music, I was like, fuck. Yeah, what was I? I was in a meeting the other day. And we just got done doing something. but I come back to the plays room and you're just playing fucking... Yeah, I was just waiting for you. I was your ride. So I was just playing pubs.

I was just like, Jesus, man, get over it. I found a mod online. I just had an idea. I found a mod online of Monorfer 2 that incorporates like blackups one maps, blackups two maps, and like cod four maps into Monofer 2 and also has like different games

and it's like free if you have the game already and I was like, what the hell? So I've been like making YouTube videos off of that. Apparently. It's been a lot of fun. Are you about talking about hail online?

No, I was going to talk about apparently China has God online. Yeah, is it a codBR? Yes. The best Call of Duty out, the best Call of All Time we can't play in America.

Because... What the one that's out right now? Well, it's out all the time. It's called Call of Duty. Duty Online. And the only reason they made that, the only reason Activision, I think it's Activision.

The only reason they made that is because they don't use consoles in China. So they don't play Call of Duty. So they made a free-to-play Call of Duty in China that you can just buy micro-transactions on that it's called Caught Online. Why can't we buy it? Because they get their money from game sales here.

Yeah, I know, but you would think you could just like buy it online somehow and just like play on China servers where you can't well there's like a way you can do it but you play on like 300 ping I'd still like the just like walk around yeah yeah well uh... Pumage has a few videos and the thing is it's caught online

just on it? Yeah playing it? Yeah well he did it like a it was like a year or two ago damn so he uh or caught online just made a BR and uh right now it's like not that active. It's just like 16 to 20 people. I wonder how it. I saw a video. Well, if it's like, if you insta die, like, you know how with a, um, I forget M8, am, is that a burst? Yeah.

With like an M8 and bagupt seal. Yeah. I'm the good. I'm the best. Uh, but you would just like one burst someone. And if like that's the case in that, like, imagine just like running through a field for 10 minutes. because the storms come and then just Yeah And you're just like That happened to me today Fucking I'm just running I get in a fight

I kill him And then I'm looting him And I'm I'm even moving while looting And then I just And it was a dude with a D eagle Just like

20 feet away Just headshot Degals me Yeah It was because of the first shot accuracy Shit It's just like what the fuck Yeah I mean that part would

I mean, that was always the problem with H1. But why is H1 so much better than PubG? It's because it's just faster. The movement speed is faster. Well, it's not to a lot of people. Oh, yeah. I like it better than PubG, a thousand percent. So many people just got triggered that.

I said that. I kind of want to try H1 again. I probably will, like, one of these days, because I did get my, I probably will on stream. I started downloading H1 the other, like a week ago, and just stopped. Like, I'm not playing this year.

But if I stream, I'd probably jump on H1 or something for the sake of the old days. Yeah. It is. It is. I mean, I played the other day. Or actually, I played before it got, before it was free to play. So now there's like 30K people online. And it used to be like 3,000 people online.

I just feel like there's a, in H1, there's just like a shooting, like, skill gap almost. Yeah. Fortnite Why? Why balloon? But we're not talking about Fortnite. I think we've gone far enough to not talk about Fortnite.

So online Oh, what I was going to tell you is that people in my chat yesterday because whenever I got tired of Fortnite I started playing that mono for two like mod or whatever and it was pretty fun chat.

seem to like it. And then one guy was telling me, he said, have you ever, have you ever heard of Halo online? And I was like, no? Like, I mean, unless you're talking about just regular online Halo. But apparently there's a PC version of Halo that you just go and you download it. And it's like, it's like, well, I think that's Halo 2 remake or something. That might have been what we played for, um, before H2A came out.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That might have been the shit we played. That was like XBC though. Did you Xbox Connect? Oh, was it? Did he say that? I don't know. It's literally,

Xbox connects like the first online, like XBC came out before Xbox Live. So it's like super old. Oh, it was like. But so I doubt that. But imagine we were talking about this on the podcast, um, the second best podcast.

an optic. Oh yeah. The optic podcast. Okay. We were talking about if Halo had a BR arena or whatever.

I think that would be dope. Like imagine like a squad running through you know, the fucking Spartan Hills

and here comes a wart hog with another team on it. Oh my God. Wow. I was trying to visualize it

and then you said wart hog and it just changed. changed everything. Yeah. Like ghosts and... Ghost, Wardhog. What's the other one?

Banschees? Yeah. Holy shit. That would be epic. Yeah. That would be sick. Imagine, do you know what a rath is? Yeah. The big blue.

Like having one of those and like your team's just running with it. But like one of you just in a rath. What the fuck? That would be. Dude. The, there's so much cool. There's so many more cool things you can do with Halo.

Yeah. And they could just start. making shit up. Halo B.R. Because at first they were like, I think HEC said, uh, would you play a cod?

Would you rather a cod or a Halo B.R? And I was like, actually, now that I think about it, Halo B.R. might work out. And then I did the same thing you did. And I was, Jack started talking.

I was like, wait, ward hawk. Yeah. I was like, wait, that would be sick. If you can get a fucking ward hog. If you're just like running with your, and like one guy still only has a pistol, one guy maybe has a,

a sniper. One guy has a BR. And then like a, that's, that's, that's, that you, you spawn somewhere weird. Yeah. And, uh, so one guy only has an assault rifle pistol, sniper and a BR. And so the four of you guys are running through and out of the hills, a wart hog jumps out with a guy on top. Like, like, oh, shit. That's like the perfect Halo arena commercial. Yeah.

But would never happen in a real game. In reality, it's, and then a war dog almost gets over there. hill hits the top, flips to the side. Three people fall out and then it's just a shit show of shooting. That would be so fresh. Like, you, like, and in Halo, it's crazy because they're actually in the, in the history of the game, there's been mid kits and there's been over shields and there's been bubble shields and shit like that.

Yeah. I was thinking about the bubble shields. Or camos, like one dude, yeah, there's been gay stuff that you can use. Maybe I did it. Remember when that happened? A long time ago, I would use the word gay. The IW beta. Yeah, sorry.

Wait, I-W beta. Why did I say it then? How do you remember that? Because I was streaming, it was hilarious. Oh, yeah. Because you said it. It was me, me, Pumage, and you were playing. And you just out of habit said it from your Halo days

because somebody popped some sort of random thing that gives you extra health or like, I don't know. Remember how IW had all these like weird

specialist that you could use like glitch and stuff? And you said it. And then me and Pomage got really quiet. And then you were like, me too. Homophobic.

And then me and Austin busted out laughing. But when you're growing up a certain way, like shit just slips out. Does it mean me? That means. me think about homophobic.

Hmm. Why am I getting sad now if I think about the old optic house? Like, uh... I think about it at least nine times a day. Like, how long do you have to live with other people until you're happy? And on your own. What do you mean? Like, I...

Like, when is it too old to live in a mansion with eight dudes? It is basically my question. Well, I'm gonna go with... The oldest person that I know that's doing that, which was Mike when he was 29. So we're good. Well, I'm good. I have four.

Not if we move back. If we move back. Well, as long as I'm not the oldest. Wait, Mike was 29? 28. At the scuff house? He was the oldest out of everything, everyone. I'm trying to think of people in phase.

I can't think of anybody older than that. He might be the oldest. Yeah. Fuck. That means I'm like second. Jeez, man. I'm a pioneer. Remember when I texted you? Did you remember my text? I texted you at like 3 a.m. Yeah. I'm a pioneer of this shit.

And then I woke up and saw it and I was like, what? I was just thinking about it and I was like, there was no, like, e-sports wasn't a thing when I was doing esports. It's crazy. The word e-sports didn't start to. Yeah, it didn't exist. Well, e-sports didn't exist when I was watching. It was competitive gaming. You probably wouldn't even have.

Mine was just MLG. My mom's just an MLG Halo tournament. That's funny. Yeah, yeah. Holy shit, that's crazy. Because ours was competitive Call of Duty, and it was one day. I'm pretty much the, like, shitty white basketball player that played in, like, the 50s. That has crazy stories.

Yeah. I'm trying to think of one, but I guess they're all... I'm not saying this is probably my favorite basketball player of all time, and I'm just saying it after you said shitty white basketball player, so I'm not saying he's a shitty white basketball. All right, don't get ahead. You're not the Larry Bird of Eastports. Who?

You're the John Stockton of Eastports. Actually, that's giving you too much credit. He's a legend. Yeah. He's in the Hall of Fame. He got inducted into the Hall of Fame to save a year Michael Jordan did. Fun fact of the day.

When did he play? Was that the... It wasn't even that long ago. It was like early 2000s. Oh, shit. Yeah, it wasn't. I was like, did he play in like the 70s or 80s or something? No, he's just...

He's probably casually living his life right now. Yeah, there's not really a person in the NBA that I could be. Like, there's one good white person. There's... Well, too. Larry Bird, John Stockton. Yeah. I don't know. I can't believe you admitted to getting sad about the Scuff House.

I am. I'm sad. I am, too. Not really. I am. I know. Really. I am really sad.

So I just think about it because people still come into my chat every single day and they're just like, you should do this for trivia next week. It's like, it's not me anymore, man. And then, like, people ask me about vision. I'm just like, I don't know how to, I don't know how to like respectfully or not respectfully. I don't know how to like easily tell people that I don't have a passion for vision anymore. How did you do it?

Did you just say that for the first time? Yeah. Publicly? No, well, I said it on my stream yesterday, but second time publicly, I guess. But how do you, how did you do it with Halo? at one point where you're just like, I don't really like Halo anymore. Or did people care?

At what point did you say, at what point did you admit? Just when I had to force myself to sign on, like, it's like work or working out. I don't enjoy it, but I like have to do it. Yeah. Because at that time I had to do it. Yeah.

I was like, if I'm playing, I need to at least practice, but I knew I didn't like it for a long time. Yeah. Because it's kind of... Well, there was a period of me talking about retiring, and then, like, months went by. And, well, it's because I was thinking about retiring because we were, I was talking to Hacks, and we were thinking about, or he was thinking about picking up the, what was the optic halo theme, lethal, and all of them.

He was already thinking about picking them up, but their contract with like CLG or something, he couldn't right then. So I was like, well, what do I do? Because it's either I retire now or until my teammates, because I think I had a team at the time, or I'd like wait this thing out. And he was like, just play and wait it out.

And then it took a couple months and then they finally could get them. Yeah. And then my life was ruined. just like that I just can't believe the day it happened me you and T.J. went to steak and shake.

And I was like, are you guys like good? And then he's funny because T.J. was like, I kind of feel like an asshole. Nah. I know. If it was like more random. But I knew about that for like months. Yeah, yeah. But I only knew

like it was official. for a few hours, like that day, basically. Or like, maybe I found out Wednesday and like T.J. flew in Thursday or something. Exactly what happened. You literally retired at 3 a.m.

the day before Crossroads came out. We filmed that interview. Like, people get so pissed off that. I remember people were getting so pissed off that Crossroads was late because Crossroads was like an hour late. I was doing the finishing touches while the live stream was on. And so that I could just export it and go stream it.

But the reason was is because it went live at like 2 p.m. And we did your interview at 3 a.m. So from 3 a.m., well, I probably didn't sit down to edit. I exported the interviews at probably like 4.30 a.m. And so from 4th, from 5 a.m. until 2 a.m., that's when I was editing. So you literally had no turnaround time. is wild. Yeah, they pretty much knew when, and I did like,

you told your team like an hour before we did the interview. Yeah. I forgot. I forgot about that. I told them before I did the interview. See, that's what I miss. Like, it was just a, vision was just the rawest form of content that I wanted optic to be. It was

everybody, you know, it was an interview with Hex talking about the Cod Champs team at the same time that you retired and we picked up a new Halo team. We introduced the Gears team in the same episode and Mixwell, you know, talked about moving into the house, into the new CS

house. And he was like, I'm an assassin. It's the same episode. All of that happened in one episode. And it's like now like... Well, you just can't even like... I don't even know what's happening in Optic. Like, how am I supposed to... I can't... And the reason I could create that vibe

is because that vibe was so natural in Optic. It was, we were all there together, doing it all at the same time. And now it just seems like, I don't even know. Like, if I had to figure out what was happening in Optic, I would have to ask, like, 12 people.

Yeah, same. So it's, it's like... It's like when we walked in here, I saw that on the board. I'm not going to say what it says. See, this on the... board, which like, I guess kind of has to do with us.

Optic, yeah. Yeah, like, optic, but like, I don't even know what that means. And apparently, it's already started. Yeah, it's already started. But, like, I, I was not aware. Yeah. And it's like not, that's not, this isn't, I don't want to, please don't make this the front page of Reddit, but like, it's not like a roast. Like, we're not roasting anything. It's just things have changed. Oh, I, I like it better. Yeah. For me.

Yeah, I know you do. I feel like it better. I can mold. I can get to a point where I do like it better. It's just that, you know, it sucks that vision. I just don't know if vision will ever... I don't even know if vision will survive, but it definitely will never be the same, in my opinion.

Unless... No, there's no less. Yeah, no, I can't. And I don't know how to say that without, you know, upsetting, well, upsetting fans or whatnot. But I just don't have the passion for it because it's not the same. That's why like this other, I don't know.

I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. And that's all I think about every single day is I don't know what to do. It brings us back to our first topic. I don't know if that was. I was about to say, I don't think that was the first topic, but what is there to do? Yeah, what is there to do? I used to never really do this at the old house.

but like even today I text Mike and was like hey when I go to this place tonight the bar to go drink yeah go to drink

because it's just it's like what is there to do besides that or for a lot we're not going to say it we're not going to say how long are we on this thing an hour and 20 minutes

we can probably wrap it up well another flag CASS, down the hatch. Another flycast. Down the shitter. Down the shitter. As always,

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