The Flycast - Are Developers Ruining Video Games (The Flycast #009)

Episode Date: January 5, 2018

Are Developers Ruining Video Games (The Flycast #009) by The Flycast

It was a pretty bitch clap. It was a pretty pussy clap. You got like this out of your hand just I was like Damn it dude every once in a while in my YouTube videos like when I'm like and we'll see you next time or whatever and then I snap as every once in a while just be like her like yeah I can't I can't end on that so then do you read that see that was a pussy one too you like it damn that was a clean it's like a bumper Welcome to the Flycast. Welcome to the Flycast. We're back with it. I'm not going to lie to you.

You know, like, you know when you, I don't know if you ever had this in Halo, but like whenever you, you, for me and Cod, I go to an event sometimes, especially now because I'm playing. You go to events sometimes. Yeah. Okay. I go to an event. And then sometimes while I'm at the event, I'm just like, oh, I can't wait to get back

and play Cod. Yeah. I heard you and Aaron talking like that at the last one. Yeah. Did you ever get like that with Halo? Um, no, not really. Well, I've said this a couple of times, but even when I played, I wouldn't like sit and watch the matches. Like if I got, say I got like top six.

Like I wouldn't sit there and watch like the winner's finals and finals. Did you watch for like film purposes? Like to study the other team? No. Not unless I was at home. I mean, at home I would. Like I'd watch theater is what it was. Yeah.

Is that what they call it in Cod, theater? We used to have theater way back in the day, but then... That's what we used to call it. I mean, yeah, I'd watch theater, but at events, I'd never watch. Sometimes if everyone's there, I'm like, I got nothing else to do. I guess I'll watch, but... I guess the reason I'm saying that is because I've been... Over the break, I've been listening to so much Joe Rogan

and a lot of Bill Burr's podcasts and H3H3, like the best podcast. Oh, so you're a fiend. So as soon as I got here, I'm ready, man. You did? Yeah, you landed today, right? Yeah, landed today. Holy shit. Landed today.

It was a long day. Yeah. I think I've been up since you fucking woke me up. True. Yeah. So Sam went to her parents for 10 days. I went to mine for 10 days. And then so came back, had Christmas with her because we didn't do it prior.

Oh, really? Yeah. And then took a nap, played a tournament that went terribly. I saw the clip. Which the Josh dude I mean it just looked like he was lagging Like it looked like something I don't know

I never seen the game like do something like that Then again I haven't watched enough Yeah But it kind of looked like Yeah it has been a pretty busy day That is that was the part point of Of that whole thing It has been a pretty busy day

And you're feigning to come back and get a fucking podcast Yeah just get a nice podcast in And I guess Well, what sucks about this time is there's not like six months of material we can talk about. True. But even when we do have six months of material to talk about, we don't actually like talk about. We'll get through one thing and then it'll just like. Yeah. The flight cast, if we have a list of things to talk about, it's always one thing. And we just take that one thing and we run with it for an hour, hour and a half. Usually we'll have a kind of like a starter. Yeah. Like I think today's starter is Christmas. And then after that, we don't really have any idea what we're going to talk about. Do you still refer to it as break, even though it's technically not even Christmas break?

Yeah. I keep calling it break. What'd you do over break? Really? I'm still in that like, I'm still in that high school college mindset where even though I worked three Christmases straight. Have you ever worked Christmas? I don't think so.

No. I worked three straight. So after that I said, I will never work Christmas again. and were you ever like cool with your because I was always cool with well at least the job that I worked the most I was like really good friends with the manager so it's like I could kind of do as not do as I please but like he would hook me up yeah yeah like he wouldn't fuck me with working Christmas oh yeah no I wasn't I wasn't ever friends with my but I was like I was like I got along there wasn't a like as far as the lead managers there wasn't a lead manager that I ever

disliked like they all they all liked me because I was like they were all guys all like I had three different ones and they were all guys and they like kind of related with like how young I was yeah but there were some there were some like assistant managers that I despise really if I had a shift with assistant manager I would dude it was it was the worst like I feel like I haven't hated also just to get this out of the way I am sick so you might hear sniffling coughing so sorry that they're not used to that when they watch the fly that's true yeah now it's two hitches today um shit what was I going to say something about managers yeah you've never had a manager that you disliked oh I've never had like an authority like a teacher or manager or principal that I didn't like

since like elementary school wow elementary school though I didn't get along with anymore miss Sarah I'm just kidding I don't know miss Sarah miss miss miss she would tell me to sit in the little carpet with the with the roads everywhere fucking made me time my blocks back I'm never free I know I know I hated my second grade teacher I don't even know what for I just remember she hated me and I hated her and we both had red hair And I don't think I'll have and I think that might have been the reason The ginger's just don't get along with each other There's just not

Not enough fucking room for the both of us I guess So Christmas how was your Christmas? It was good man um much needed I think I went I went to north Carolina twice this year But both times were for weddings so And for both of those weddings I didn't see my family because they were friends from high school and the year prior to that at the scuff house I went home like five times so it was definitely a much needed

break like in like like November early December is like I think not exaggerating probably the most stressful months of my life so yeah just to to get to get a break from that was very I literally kind of like treated this Christmas is like like like I'm not I'm not doing like I'm putting my phone away. Oh you didn't vlog at all either. No, I didn't at all and uh you know just because and my like my family would ask like yo I'm like why aren't you blogging and it's like because I just want to like live like I just want to relax it's dude people people don't I I fucking I hate complaining about it but like people don't understand yeah yeah we say that once yeah every single podcast it's

But it, like, when you vlog, it's not, it's like a, I wouldn't say you base your day around vlogging, but like, you're always, yeah, yeah, well, okay, I definitely do more shit when I'm vlogging because I'm like, I got to do something, I can't fucking vlog in my room. Yeah, exactly. But you kind of, like when you know you're going to vlog all day, it's. It's like everything you do, it's like, should I vlog this? Should I not blog this? Oh, we're going here.

Okay, when I get there, do I want, like you premeditate everything. Yeah. Before your vlog footage kind of. And that's the annoying part is you're never really like living in the moment, I guess. Yeah. I don't know how people vlog every day. And fucking, I don't know if, fuck, I don't know if I can say this. Oh, no, Hex did say you fucking.

HEC said he's going to vlog every day next year. And for any day he doesn't, he's giving $100 a charity. Yeah. And I'm just thinking about it now and how annoying Hex is about to be. Thank God we're not at the scuff house for him to come over every day. Because like when there's not, Hex is like, yes, hacks hustles. He works hard. Yeah.

But, and like he'll be like, and I fucking vlog every day on top of it. And I'm like, but you, I don't say this, but in my head, I'm like, I mean, you travel like every fucking week. You kind of have some cool shit to like film every other day. But he also makes shit happen as well. And this like, I think Texas, Texas is about to be the best thing that ever happened to Hex, in my opinion, because just to how things are, like now there's not everything in Optic is on Hex's shoulders and he's not stuck in miserable ass outside of Chicago.

I've seen him, like, I don't think I've seen Scuff House Hex since we got here. It's never been like, because it wasn't like annoying. It was like it was obvious he was desperate for content. Like, you know what I mean? And he would come over and we'd be like, oh, hex is here. He's about to shove his camera in our faces. But at the same time, he was coming over. I'm sure he was on the way over like, fuck, I have to go over there.

and shove camera in their faces you know like it's not like it's not like he was being annoying on purpose he just people were expecting him to upload every single day and he was you know hustling to do it and i'm glad for his sake it got to a point where he felt comfortable like i saw i like in my head i was saying like hecks don't give into the fucking the haters yeah even though i fucking hate the word haters yeah i was like don't give into them like don't say fucking sorry for like missing days unless it was like like I'll if I know I could have and like should have and like said I did but didn't I'll like say sorry or whatever right but like I've I heard hex say like I told you guys like he was talking to his camera like I told you guys from the beginning some of the vlogs are going to be boring sometimes there's not going to be shit to do yeah and if you're gonna complain about it don't watch my fucking logs I was like yes yes fuck yeah it's oh man dude people do you ever like like you're like you're like you not to be a hate hater your favorite word

but do you ever like see the person on top and you're like you're ruining it for everybody else man what do you mean like you're setting a standard like like you think that people watch or do you think that people like see okay yeah I know what you're asking yes because I was literally thinking about it today today I liked my blog and I think it was a good one

and I fucking like now I edit it it's so much more now than what I used to. Yeah. But it's like because every top kind of vlogger, like every like super popular YouTuber basically, they have someone else editing their shit by now. Yeah.

And it's just like a fucking true editor who every single clip is just like cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. But like every breath between fucking words, there's a cut. Yeah. And like that's what people are used to seeing now. So now even when I sit there and watch my vlogs, I'm like, fuck. Like, I could cut so.

Like, I can cut. I don't have to, but the standard is set now to where that's what people are like used to seem. Yeah. So like when they watch my shit, they're like our attention span is just becoming so fucking cut down. It's chopping, chopping. Every, any second something's not happening, like shit's getting cut out. Get out of there. Yeah, that's why like.

So that, yeah, that's fucking ruining it. for me yeah but it's like fuck you're making me have to like step my editing up yeah or even just you're filming because when you cut down that much like your video is going to turn from seven minutes to three like oh my shit fucking like today my let's see when i put it in i think it was like 33 minutes total of footage and then by the time i cut it all down it was like 12 something like that 12 10 11 Something like 10, 11, 12. Is this working? Yeah, no, I'll just make it sure.

You're scaring me. Sorry. Yeah, the other day, I had like 50 fucking two minutes of footage and just always cut it down. Yeah. I had someone, I sent someone footage. Did I tell you this? Yeah. Yeah, I sent someone footage.

And he might be watching. I'm not going to say his name just because people were dicks and might fucking make fun of him or something. Yeah. But I sent someone my footage to edit. for the first time. And I don't know if he's like edited other people's vlogs or what. But when I've rewatched it, I was just like, I can't. Yeah.

I can't. Because it doesn't have your feel. Yeah. It does like it. I'm just too, I don't know, not nitpicky. I just, I know what I'd want. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

That's like, that's why Aaron asked, Aaron's asked me for two years if he could edit some a vision like not not that he wants to but that he's there if I need help and I always say no because I don't want to get to a point where I'm giving him stuff for vision and then I'm getting it back and I'm like yeah like that's not how and I feel like people's feelings I don't know if his would but like people's feelings just get fucking hurt yeah so and I'm not I'm not the guy I'm not the guy to say no either like if people do something I'm like like every single one of Aaron's smooth comps that he edited. I was just like, yeah, it looks good, man. But even if I was like, man, he could change that. But it would be so small where I'm like,

I don't want to get, because his computer sucked at the time. I didn't want to say, hey, can you change this? And it's another six hour render. And then he uploads it and sends it back to me. And we were having issues with like quality anyway. So I just didn't want to. I'm just not the guy. But there are people out there that they don't care, man. Blake, if you guys don't know Blake is one of the three guys from home that I still play with, we have like a quote unquote like stream team kind of like pink wall or BTH that that is called Team Summertime. So two years ago or a year and a half ago, something like that, I was like, you know,

we should get a Team Summertime logo so that if I ever sell apparel or if we ever like, you know, people start watching because of us three that will have like a logo to go off of it and stuff like that. Um, so Aaron was like, let me make it. Cause Aaron's made logos for big time or scump like tons of people. And so he, he spent he, I think Aaron made 15 or so logos for team summertime. And he sent them all to me and every single time he sent it to me. I was like, dude, that looks kind of good.

I kind of like it. And I would send it to Blake and he'd be like, no. No. See, I kind of like that. Yeah. About I didn't know Blake was like that. but I kind of like that in a person. Yeah.

At least for like, I don't know. See, I won't reply to say Aaron sent that to me. I won't reply to him and be like, no. You just won't reply to. I just won't reply. I'll just like loki be fucking like trying to find someone else or something. Yeah. So then I eventually, I had to tell him.

I was like, Aaron, Blake is not going to happen with Blake. So I ended up just hitting up this guy. that Pomage told me about that he literally did Aaron get but hurt though yeah but then but then fucking made dude these logos are sick yeah 15 like I've got 15 like people not I hate people like that but I hate people like that so then I ended up spending like I spent like I think it was like $300 on the logo on the team summertime logo because it was a guy that like actually does like the retro vintage look and he does like he does stuff like that all the time

and then I got it he sent it to me and I was like holy shit and then I sent it to Aaron and he was like okay fine I mean that's fucking that's how it should go it is it is if people want a documentary edited and they send me all the footage and then they go send like Damien

or somebody else in the scene who's done it for 10 times longer I'm not going to get butt hurt if they pick him because he's obviously better. Yeah, that's why like if someone, like people have been like, yo, uh, fucking so and so wants a beat, blah, blah, blah, send him some beats. And I'm just like, no, because I'm not going to be that fucking guy who's like trying to like force his fucking average beat on someone that like a fucking pro would actually, like he could get something really, like professionally done.

Yeah. By like someone else. Like I'm not going to, if I can't do it, I'm not going to offer. Yeah. What are you going to do with beats? Do you still have a love for it? What's funny is I was fucking with it today for the first time and like since I moved here. That's funny that you actually, or that it came up because I was fucking with it today for the first time in forever because I was just bored.

I mean, it's going to be right. been something that you've gone back to it yeah it's always been around but i just never got fucking addicted to it like i did it at the scuff house yeah um but that's it's gonna be something for sure yeah because i just see my life panning out the way i wanted to kind of do like in that direction so it's gonna happen but like it just can't right now there's just way too much to like way too much other shit that I need to focus on yeah yeah like

this is I can't like I've fucked up in 2017 put it this way I fucked up in 2017 and I can't like I have to I need like a little cushion fucking behind me right now and I got some I got like real shit that I have to handle first.

Yeah. And then the rest will come. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. That's, that's kind of how, like, there was a, there was a time. You probably remember this, or you definitely remember this, where I kind of got, like, addicted to the idea of doing a full-length halo documentary.

Oh, yeah. And I was, like, super about it. I researched for, like, a week straight. I was watching all the old Walshey videos. I was, like, talking to PJ. for 10 hours a day about Halo and stuff. And I have like a notebook still written full of like stuff that I needed to learn. And it's still something that I would love to do.

I know that there's a guy, you know who snipe tality is? Mm-hmm. I think he's, I think he's working on one. Really? I believe so, yeah. He's like the main montage guy. Logan, he's a really cool guy. But he's, I think, I think it's him.

It's not, I know it's not Mugsy. It's somebody whose roots are in Halo that's really good at videos. and they tweeted something about like this HALER documentary is coming along well. And I was like, thank, I was like, at least somebody's doing it. Because that'll be interesting. I just hope they, man, I hope they do it right. They better or I'm going to be pissed. Yeah.

But the thing is, the whole reason I'm into this, I've talked about it a million trillion times is there's a Super Smash Brothers documentary that is like nine episodes long and it just, it's like encapsulating the storyline is. And it's not like, it's not like, it's like, it's like, it's like, you. YouTube quality documentary, which is like what I, you know, fell in love with is doing like YouTube style documentaries. And, um, and, uh, where was I going with that? Uh, I don't know. Like why you, you used to be addicted to the thought of doing a halo doctor.

Yeah, yeah. Like, someone else is doing it. Yeah. Somebody. Yeah. Dude. I don't know. Oh, because I, I was going to go like super in depth.

And I, I, I wanted to interview like, every. Everybody and I wanted to tell the complete story. Oh, this is where I was going with it and that that super smash brothers documentary Was not the first one that was done there apparently yeah. I talked to I used to be like relatively good friends with one of the smashers name Axe He's like a top 10 player and he was like he was like I went to events because for like three years their events were super underground After like MLG dropped them. They went super underground and during those years he said I probably got interviewed six or seven times by different people saying they were going to make a smash documentary he was like so then one day and then and we all forgot about it and then one day two years later one of them actually dropped and it literally saved that entire esport like that's crazy

so so even if if somebody does fuck up I don't know I can still yeah I can't I'm that like low like low key just piss me oh I can see it I can see I can see I can see it. If somebody fucked up Halo, I think I could do it, dude. If someone, I think you could too. I think you could. But I say that knowing I could like point you to where you need to go. I mean, how many of my close friends are,

have played Halo for like, like you played for 10 plus years. Mike played for 10 plus years. I'm close friends with. Then like people that were. Yeah. And people were good friends with. Yeah.

for fucking 15, 20. Like, like I'm friends with fucking ogre too. I mean, nothing else really needs to be. You're friends with the fucking Babe Ruth of, of fucking Halo. Dude, the more I think about it. But it's not even about that.

It's like, there's just, there's so much, it just has to be done. Yeah. And there's stories, there's stories that you guys will start talking and I'll just be like, dude.

Like, there's so much that people don't know. It's the most, it is, I will say this with certainty is the most storied e-sport that hasn't been covered yet. Like smash has been covered. There's no stories in Codd because

Cod 4 is where it all started. Or Cod 2. I can see that. But like Halo, literally Halo and MLG came up together and look at MLG now. Yeah. You know? Like it's, dude, it's so rich and there's so, so much going on

behind the scenes. So Logan, if you're watching this and you are the one doing the videos, if you don't interview like 70 people that I would be pissed. Like you have to do it. I mean, we can't like what he. Well, I don't know. We're fucking. But, but the reason I couldn't.

I know I said I was going to do this and I would do it great, but I didn't do it. But it's like as soon as I like while I was doing all that stuff, um, that's when like responsibility hit me hard with like optic YouTube. Like I got put like pretty much fully in charge of that and there was like, a lot of deliverables that were pouring in so i had to i had to focus on on that and then this happened so yeah i don't know yeah i definitely it you fucking or i i was planning on dropping well also the move was like so uh just like hey we were moving fucking in three weeks like we never really knew yeah we knew we were moving just not weird yeah just yeah so i i always

planned on like dropping something when we moved to Texas and like like figuring something out for when we moved to Texas but then it got to a point where I was just like like the closer and closer it got I was just like I don't this is going to be a fucking like this has to get pushed back like I can't do this right now drop it like music yeah just like I didn't have it all planned out but like shit like a fucking website like selling shit and like with merch and you know like a team a bunch of yeah like a team of yeah like a team of people shit like that but like just the closer and closer it got i was realizing how i can't think of the fucking word but like how much it actually takes to like i guess do it right

but not only that you have to worry about moving and like just moving and like getting everything going again and yeah just it was just it was just too much and I definitely

fucking I didn't I just it was a learning lesson I didn't know what the fuck I was getting myself into have you talked at all about what like some of the plans were that we were thrown around like you

obviously it's your thing but you and like you and like like Hex and myself and like Pomage and Bose like we were all kind of like helping you like plan like what you could possibly do. Um, well it was I know first I wanted eventually. I mean this is all stuff I like still want to do. Yeah. But I guess has that ever been talked about like getting a team of people like and I've like I've reached out to people. People have said they like want to be a part of it. But it's a lot more more like people aren't just going to give me like their beats and use their beats to get me

traffic yeah to get me money like they need to be compensated there's got to be contracts yeah it's got like there's just more to it thank god i mean think like it's it's real easy because you like you're always kind of that i'm kind of the let's throw it together a gb team and play you're kind of the let's let's scrim with people that we've played with forever and actually make it far in the tournament like that's that's those are our two different ways of thinking like this podcast probably wouldn't have happened if it was just you because you it wouldn't have been the proper environment that you wanted to be well even today yeah you're like you're like you're like yo flycast and i was like didn't we say we were going to like have fucking equipment

Like a cool environment. Yeah, like a new environment, this podcast. And you were like, dude, they just want, like, they just want the content. I'm just like, I don't know. But now it's obvious that I was just itching to do the podcast. Well, yeah, and I think we should anyway. Yeah, for sure. Christmas.

And I was talking to, I went out to eat with Hex yesterday. And we were talking about, I don't even know exactly what we were talking about. But he was like, you can. can't he said some fucking i think casey nice that quote yeah it was like um something like you i'm totally butchering it and it's not even going to be a quote but something like you can't don't worry about it always being perfect and like just put something about like being good enough you have to know the difference you can't always be perfect yeah like sometimes it's just going to be good enough yeah sometimes you just have to do good enough yeah yeah sometimes you just have to do good enough

Yeah. It was something like that. But like not and of course not saying my shit's fucking perfect. But hopefully you get the fucking point. Yeah. That's kind of like I think that's kind of where we live. If it's something I care about, I want it to be good. Yeah.

But I think even where we live as or this is this is how I go about it. Where we live in media as far as like optic and media and fucking content and stuff like that. I keep cursing a lot. Same. I literally just noticed that like 30 seconds ago. I was like, I think I've said the F word about 50 times already. I need to relax. I was at home and I didn't cuss at all in front of my mom.

So maybe it's all just. I don't think I do either. Regurgitating up. So now I forgot what I was saying. Being of this, being an optic. Being an optic and being in where we are as far as YouTube media is concerned, there's like not a lot of perfection. that is achieved.

You know, like maybe the only perfection. Wow, I can't believe I just set myself up. All I was going to say are like Pomage montages, and they're called Pomage perfectionists. But anyway, like, as far as like perfect videos, like videos that you sit down and you edit until you say, okay, I've done editing, now this is a full video that I'm going to put up and I am completely in love with it.

I don't even do that with vision, you know, Because as far as like YouTube is concerned, you kind of just, it's about putting out quality stuff, but as much quality stuff as possible. Not like, that's why, I mean, you don't see YouTubers upload once a year and are successful. That's what I'm trying to, that's what I have to get used to now as I'm getting older. It's like, like, maybe it's because in Halo, it was like you practice, practice, practice. and then there's that one tournament where it's like, oh, shit. It's all on the line.

Oh, shit, the glasses. Yeah, I forgot mine today. But maybe that's where I got it from, but I feel like I've all, I can, I work in, uh, and you're like this too, to where we like to do it all like at once. Like, yeah.

Like when it matters. Like I can't just like, like, Hex is like a day-to-day grinder, grinder, grinder, and it's kind of like this. And we're just like, do it all one night. Exactly. I can stay on 48 hours straight. Let's fucking go. That's so true.

And that's just how I am. And as I get older, I'm realizing I'm like, I can't do that. I have to get used to like putting in work every single day. Yeah, about, yeah, but kind of spacing it out. Yeah, spacing it out. I mean, to this day, I still do everything that I need to do, planning and shooting vision. And then I put it all on to organize it all on one computer and sit down and do the whole thing. Yeah.

I would do the same thing. Yeah. There's no way I could like, I can't like start a, like, I could never, like, even with beats, I could never start a beat. I could never start a beat and go back to it. And like, really, anytime I started it, I either fucking. threw it away or like got finished i never like can come back to a beat the only vision that i ever took a break editing and then came back to it was a vision that i way over edited and it's really good and i really like it but i edited the shit out of it and it ended up being obviously late and and it

was it was a really good episode but it dude it wore me out like i remember i i I finished it. We went to Chick-fil-A. And then on the way back, I was like, all right, I'm going to go stream it. And like,

I'm super excited about it. Then as soon as I was done streaming, like, I felt so terrible. Like, I felt sick. And I, like, went to sleep forever. And it was just like,

I don't know. Giving 100% effort is what I love doing. But you have to be smart about it too. And definitely. I don't know. I feel like not, not being perfect is kind of like, like how YouTubers make their living, except for like, freaking Casey Nistadt,

which is circling back to the top people make us look bad. Like Casey Nistad does it. Why can't you do it? Because I'm not a freak of nature. Yeah. He's a beast. That shit's fucking. Dude, his video is like, maybe I'll, how old is he?

38, 37, like that? What was he doing when he was like 25? I think that's when he sold. his TV show HBO show Because he started I think if I remember correct I don't want to sound like a so he's always been a beast

Yeah he's kind of like hex He's always grinded even like you know Hex brags about how much How like how successful he was when he was working a desk job I never heard him really talk about Oh he just talks about how much he grind He said he would go there at like 9 in the morning And leave it like 10 at night

And then Jude got hired at the same place And they would both just hustle Yeah he said like they weren't they weren't struggling because of how hard he worked, even though it was like, you know, obviously a different job than what he does now. But like Casey Nice says from what I remember from his like draw my life and stuff is that he was the same way. He was like a dishwasher and he said he like went to work every day. He was 16 when he had his first kid. Did you know that? And and so I knew he was young. Yeah, so he had his kid and he was a dishwasher. And he went.

to he said every day he like went to work and he was like I'm going to be the best dishwasher like in New York see I got my first job as a dishwasher and I quit after 24 hours yeah no I quit after two yeah I think it was I worked one weekend the second weekend I quit so and I didn't even like say I was quitting I just like I think I worked Saturday and then had to work Sunday and Sunday's the busiest day because it's yeah do you know what Bob Evans is you worked at Bob Evans yeah as a dishwasher dude the church crown at Bob Evans has to be oh dude it is and I was the dishwasher for the next morning it just didn't show up I was six oh I was 16 I was like you fucked up you hired me I'm fucking 16 I'm washing dishes with no gloves like dude the water is so

hot, it's fucking stupid. Do you want a beer? No, I do not want a beer. But the Yeah, I'm 16, washing The water was so hot Fucking, they didn't

Get me gloves, it sucked, I worked with some old-ass dude Who was just Like, you could tell his hand He didn't give his shit. He was like grabbing the hottest plates, like, I'm a savage. Just a savage Bob Evans dishwash.

It gets hot. Dude, it's hot as hell. Yeah. Because I used to work at Jason's deli. Dude, the Jason's deli church crowd is, because I was a cash. I was a cashier. I think just the church crowd everywhere. Like any, like, Bob Evans, like Golden Corral.

Jason's deli. Like places like that, like, all, man. Because people after church, after everything's done, they kind of hang out together a little bit. And they're like, hey, where do you guys want to go eat? And then a group of fucking pastors walking. to Bob Evans. So, yeah, it was...

And then my dumbass put... I applied for McDonald's, and then my dumb ass put Bob Evans as a reference. What? And then they called me in, interviewed me. They were like, so why'd you work at Bob Evans

for two weeks? And I was like, I quit. They were like, why? I was like, I just didn't need the job. And they were like, so what makes us think you won't quit? this job because you just don't like it and I was like well I actually need a job now so I won't quit and they're like I don't think so you didn't get hired to McDonald's no oh dude

fuck you McDonald's that's fucking look at me now that's funny the one fucking job the one place I got an interview and didn't and I've had I don't know say fucking seven different jobs yeah the one place I didn't get hired was Bob Evans or at fucking McDonald's songs. Damn. That's crazy. Did I ever tell you what happened to me at Best Buy? Huh. I was, I was, I think it's the most upset of like the genuinely like the most like angered I

felt like since high school like soccer or whatever. But I get a, I quit Applebee's on the spot because it was a terrible place. And immediately I, I, I apply. to like five different places and I apply to to Best Buy this is when I'm like grinding for optic Intel or whatever so I'm like trying to get into e-sports I apply to Best Buy under gaming and photography and video and they send me a message back that was like or the email back that was like hey your interview is at 2 p.m. on Monday and I was like there's no way I don't get this job gaming and videos like that's what I do that's what I do so I went

And I applied to like five of the places too. Show up in a fucking optic shirt. So that weekend I had gone to the beach, beach house with my ex. And so I just wasn't even worried at all. I have like no money because I didn't make anything in Applebee's. But I just wasn't worried because I was going to get this best by job 100%. So I go in, put on nice stuff, go in at two, sit down.

There's another lady there too. I was like, hey, I have a job interview today. And so they're like, okay, sit down. They sent me next to this other lady. That's probably got an interview too. And then this like assistant manager comes up and she was like, hey. And I was like, hi? She was like, we accidentally sent you the email, but we were interviewing someone else.

And I looked at her. I was like, what? That's awkward. And she was like, yeah, I'm, and then she, I remember, I'll never forget her face. She was like, yeah, I'm really sorry. And I was like, you fucking dreams are just corrupt. Yeah. I'm sitting there thinking I'm going to, I'm going to get this best.

And then what? You got Walgreens? Yeah. After that, I, I, uh, shot, I shot, um, middle school soccer games and high school soccer games. I had this like huge tripod thing with a camcorder on top. and I would shoot entire soccer games. And so that was like a side company that I did. And they really liked me because of my,

they were like, they had to like teach other people how to like export videos and upload them. And I was like, I do this every day. Like you guys are fine. And they were like, okay. So they really liked me.

And then from there I wasn't getting enough money. So I reapplied to Walgreens where I'd worked before. And I just got that. But you know what's crazy? What if you got the job at Best Buy? And this never happened. Yeah. And then from Best Buy.

you became like assistant manager and then you're like no I can't fucking risk going out to fucking Chicago well that would never happen but I probably wouldn't even I wouldn't even have gotten to the point of going to Chicago it would have been oh well it would have been like I need to focus more on my real job than I can't be going to UMG yeah exactly that is crazy that could like if we didn't I guess that's like if you're not successful now because I wasn't I was a Halo pro but I wasn't like successful yeah like I was working at fucking food line yeah and if I wasn't working at food line I probably wouldn't have came out here yeah I really I didn't have like anything to lose I guess I mean I did but it was like yeah it was worth

worth the risk then this could have just never happened yeah it could have never happened you never know have you ever heard the story about the Chinese farmer it's gone it's God, maybe. It's like, basically the story is like you never know whether something good or bad like can lead to. I'm not going to look up Alan Watts Chinese farmer. Oh, I fall asleep to this. Really?

I'm not going to butcher it. But it's like you never know that what could be the outcome of like something bad or something good. Yeah. Like something really bad could happen. but like from that like something really good could happen something really good could happen but from that you know something bad could happen

so you never know it's always a maybe always deep this is why people watch the fly Nick is so deep Hitch is so fake deep Hitch in his fake glasses

and fake deep Um, now kind of like getting back onto like a nerdy current event subject. What is what are, do you even have opinions? Cause I feel like it's constantly me just trying to force shit out of you. Uh, when it comes to Halo. But is what do you think about this whole embleg coming back with Halo? It's like a reunited. I'm excited.

Um, I think it's over height. And I'm like, it like not. Dude. It like hurts to say, like, if Sundance heard me saying that, he'd be disappointed. Yeah. And if Clap heard me say that, he's going to have a word with me next time I see him. But like, you know, in a friendly way. But I'd be like, just like, yeah, yeah, why would you?

Come on. Well, why would you say that? We're going to, we're going to fucking run this shit. But I don't know. I've just, I've been around the block. Yeah. And I don't know how like Halo just having worlds is like it's crazy to me with that much money in it. Right.

So like I just don't. Yeah. fucking EGL. That's who they were with. Yes. ESL. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like. Very bad. What's really. The only thing that's going to change is like.

event or in my opinion the only thing that's really going to see a drastic change is like event spectator ship or whatever that's called yeah just like people watching at events like i don't think the viewership will change much the money could go up could go down you think it's all the game still what do you mean you think is like what what what do you think it what what do you think it would take for halo to not blow up but to to to get to get to to a point where it's like okay halos. I don't have the answers because people are going to watch

what they want to watch and there's nothing. No one can like save something. Yeah. Like people, no one can like force something upon the people to like. Yeah. It's very true. People are either going to like the game or not

and that's where we get into 3-4-3 making Hama 5. Yeah. And I think they've made some mistakes too. And the only, what's annoying is them making mistakes and not really trusting, like, pro players, opinions and, like, asking them for help. Like, these are all people, these aren't people that are playing every single day, all day, like the true gamers and, like, the true fans. Yeah. These are people that went to college and got their degrees and know how to program. Yeah.

So it's like they need to start getting insight from people who are the nerds playing all day every day. Right. It's kind of like make it like and drop their ego. Yeah. Same with call it. Same with call of duty. And it's like those are the, those, I think those are the two worst. I mean, yeah, console console is definitely really bad about it.

I know League of Legends was like people bash how League of Legends changed. I don't know where it's at now. I just know when I was playing when it first started. And just like every game when it first starts, it's like, this the best. And then it changes, this fucking sucks. It sucks. Bring back H1s. Yeah.

But like League and Legend, maybe every community is like that. Yeah. That's true. Any change. I think Super Smash Brothers melee is the only game where they actually are in love with their game. That shit hasn't changed at all, hasn't it? It's still. It's been around for 13 years.

They're still playing the same game. Like it's fucking it's crazy But you know like I wonder how advanced Like if you watch I want to since it is the same game I want to see people That's like people playing Halo 1 from then

Till now like I want to see how that would it got Yeah But like I would like to watch a 2017 Smash like finals First a 2000 When did it come out? It's a completely different game. Like right now, I think

I'm... When did it come out? To 2003? Imagine like comparing a 03 finals. And that's why that documentary that like made that fucking inspired me is so insane because it starts out and the best people that won for years are playing now still and they're trashed because they tried to come back. And it's just like

the game is so advanced. You can't like you can't force it like you have to like for Halo I was just like I like molded into it I didn't like try to still have it

yeah like I just played and that's when the Royal 2s came up yeah when I was like trying to you're not taking my spot and that's when Royal 2 was like I'm playing all day I love this game that's when those kind of people just start taking over

yeah Like, I think the equivalent of what, you know, that, like, the dilemma that we have in console e-sports is as if, it's as if, like, the label of an artist made the artist album without any of the artist's input. Wait, say that again? It's like, as if a label made an album for a particular artist, and that artist had no input on their, on their album. Like, that's kind of how Cod, like, Cod and Halo.

Like, these people are making a game for the people. and the people have no say in it like it's kind of and like no wonder people stop watching no wonder we go through struggles of yeah i don't understand why yeah i don't know i don't i don't understand why it's it's oh man it's such such a dilemma but as far as like maybe it's just bigger than them like maybe they're just like we have a job to do yeah like we don't really have a say I can kind of I cannot kind of understand that with Cod because it's turning into just like a

it's turning into just like a quick turnaround like making make a game that's good enough for a year because next year we're going to have enough that is weird with God but for HALO it's like a three year four year cycle so far so let's hope HALO 6 is good man could you imagine

am I going to play but all I ask is that just don't feel heavy that that was my biggest complaint with halo 5 it was like the millisecond delay was like noticeable but I think like it just felt heavy like I was what the best way to describe it came from Royal 2 he says

it feels like I have an elephant on my fucking pistol like it's just heavy like it's just not swift fucking hit left it's immediately left like it's Yeah. Yeah. Just dragging it around.

Yeah. It's like, I feel like Cod is kind of clunky. I don't know. Yeah. Like I'll play mono one for two and like you'll run like with your U and P.N.P and you'll just bring it up and aim. And now it's like you're running with the PPSH and you have to like kind of robotically like. That's what I kind of.

Yeah. I feel like. I think Black Ops 3 felt smooth to me. Yeah. And that's why. Even though people were like hating jet packs, I was like, I just like it because it feels smooth and like the aiming makes sense. That's the only reason I like that game because I can't stand. I could obviously, I'm an anti-jetpacker, but that game was actually pretty fun to play.

And I bet you if there was an option in that game to play like without jet packs or without wall running, I feel like it would have been, oh, I would have played the shit out of that. But as far as like, I think, imagine the pressure. sure that MLG is under right now because now ESL screwed up for so long and you know and that's why I'm saying it's like over hype because yeah not that I doubt MLG but it's like what could what can they really do besides they're going to make they're going to make the event lit yeah but other than that it's like there's not much they can do is strong side that's still working for ESL or is he working for three for three no he was working with three he was working for three he was working for okay so he's gonna be still a part of everything well I don't know if I should don't know

no but I think I don't even know if he's still working for him I just know other people that are still working for them and I know like just what they do I guess but like I'm not going to talk about yeah it's nothing like bad I've just it's yeah yeah yeah I just don't know what's, yeah. Yeah. But because I think whenever Strongside was like coming over to the house and like we were talking at events, he had like the right idea. He was like, you know, what made Halo so great back in the day? I forgot Strongside came over.

Yeah. He was like, what made Halo so great was the storylines? It was Walshie talking shit. And it was, you know, like, Will Tugur win again? And who is this pistola guy? Like it was like storylines and now it's like none of that. It's like if TJ and Snipedown aren't playing each other, then like, Why are we watching?

It's just a bunch of little kids really everything. Yeah, pretty much. So. Fucking millennials, dude. Yeah, right? Damn. God damn millennials. I'm glad Penguin changed his name back, though.

Is it back to Penguin now? Back to Penguin. Good. Return to Piggy. When I saw him, he made it Sub Zero, right? Yeah. I was like, what? What are you doing?

All the castors. You're Penguin. All the casters at Worlds were like, and sub-zero with it. I don't know why he changed. Yeah, penguin's like a that's a dope name yeah like your penguin yeah kind of what what's villain Supervillains penguin it's like is it Batman or Superman wait a what isn't there penguin isn't there a villain named penguin Because that whenever I see him I think of the the villain penguin not like the who I don't know who the villain penguin is I think of the animal oh do you Yeah penguin just a damn penguin

Oh it's Batman his name is penguin yeah Or is he a penguin? I'm pretty sure he's a bat. No, he's a villain. Batman's a bat and a man. No, of course. I'm talking about the super villain penguin. Who is a super villain?

Like the green goblin or like... But wait, Batman's supervillain is penguin. Yeah. Like this... No, it's Joker. Yeah, obviously. That idiot? I don't even know who that is.

It's penguin. I thought, you know who But it's, Joker's like it's real supervillain. Yeah, yeah, of course. But there's, all the supervillains have like... Oh, I just don't know. Yeah. I'm just not, I guess.

I wonder if he was going for this penguin. Or animal penguin. That's funny. That's a good question. Yeah, you need to ask him. I don't know. I just, I hope for the best, man. I want to go to as many Halo events as I,

Can. Are you going to be going to Halo events now? Yeah, when's the first one? Oh. Is it in January? I don't know. Because I think it's in Orlando. There's no way it's in January.

Yeah, there is one in Orlando. I think it's like late January. Dude, there's no way. I think. Because MLG is running CWL, Vegas. Then it's running Gears of War, Mexico City on the 28th. So there's no way they have time. Those are both I'll G events.

Maybe not. I don't know. I think it's in February. It's either in February or March. It's got to be, actually, I don't know. I think there's one. I think I'm going to Seattle twice this year. One for,

and I've never been to Washington before. It's pretty nice. Going once for Call a duty and once for Halo. Yeah, it's pretty nice. I like Seattle. Yeah. It's weird, actually. It's like a, it's,

I mean, you're just going to be, I don't know, until like every city to me was the same because I was just going to the hotel playing at the event going to the hotel going back in yeah until you actually like go out in the cities like kind of explore you don't really know yeah I don't really do that often unless it's like Paris or London or somewhere like that no dude I'm piss I would we got to go back to London yeah I know why you want I need I need

But there's a While we were there It was like very stereotypical what you hear about It was very true Like cloudy No sun very cold Kind of rainy Like it was that way the whole time

I feel like we didn't get to really Yeah Explore Well we didn't We didn't Yeah I mean we were like Were we like kind of in the heart

Of the city? I think so Yeah I think we were But we don't I don't know But all we did was like go down that street yeah go to the bar go to that breakfast place you know we didn't like like

you know the young thug song fucking uh something something in the pickle dilly or whatever that we were there yeah we were i don't even know what a pickle dilly is pick a dillie it's like the the square it's like a it's like the oh it's the name of the square of new york i think so yeah we were like there james i don't think we were in it but i think we were right beside it you're Why not? And we like, we were in the Uber and heck was like, there's big bin. And I was like, oh, there's. And that was it.

Piccadilly. What? What is that? I said big bin, like the clock, the famous clock. And he was like, that's big Ben. And I was like, what? Oh. It was.

Hey. Are we at the bar? Yeah, we didn't do much exploring. Yeah. So. Yeah. Piccadilly was, I don't think we were in it. We were like beside it, though.

I just remember. seeing a sign with an arrow that said piccadilly that way. And our Uber said it. He was like, this is Piccadilly. And we, oh, really? Piccadilly. I don't, we're probably,

there are probably people from London watching this. They're like, shut them. Like, you're not even saying it right. But yeah, we didn't go over that. I think Jane Smith says piccadilly the songs. Yeah,

I think he does. You're a square like Piccadilly or something like that. But yeah, we haven't, I don't know, I haven't explored at an event in a very long time. It's kind of. Yeah, you don't really.

get to I guess yeah dude I'm gonna be traveling so much this year and dude we got I got so much to do man it's stress

it's stressing me out just thinking about this like as far as what we gotta figure out so when's uh how long has it been uh we're like 55 minutes

something oh it's not too bad um when are you gonna start when's like this is it January 1st like the start of like when's everyone going to be coming back to the office like things are going to uh i think i'm coming here i don't know if anybody's working right now i don't think they are

um like as far as like all the other people but i'm coming in tomorrow possibly with sam uh to organize my or try to do something about my office try to make it like try to pump it out a little bit So I'll be in here for that. But as far as like all the guys coming in and stuff, like that work here, I don't know. I don't know when they're coming back. Maybe January 1st. See, I've been, I don't know what to do with my room. I've been like, dude, your room was so dope for like, 13 hours.

It's dope. It's dope if I turn the lights off and then turn the cool lights on. Yeah. But just regular. It's not just regular lighting and it's not dope. but I need to figure out like Jay's office is dope. I need a... Jay's office is dope.

But like I feel like I want to get like posters and not posters. Yeah, yeah. Just like cool. What do you even call it? Posters? Like what's in J? What's hanging on J's? Oh yeah, yeah.

I know what you mean. Like canvases and stuff. Yeah, campuses. Yeah. Oops. Yeah, canvases. I need like stuff like that, like cool stuff that I want to put up. But like everything I look.

at him like is that corny or would it be cool and if i did have it how would i want it and that comes back to me like wanting it really dope and like quote perfect but like it comes to me not doing anything because i'm like i don't want it to be corny yeah yeah that's the same but it's like i got to fucking just do i do it and maybe fail maybe do it and get it and get made fun of and then yeah like okay what are you what are you are you putting on doing anything different like about content this year like obviously more like I'm the same way I'm like I want to do more content wise but have you ever thought about like like I guess like organizing what you plan on doing um I always I'll get random ideas that I write my phone yeah like I had

I wrote down like two different things last night actually but like if you ask me right now what were those things i don't remember i'd have to i'd literally have to look at my phone and see like a list of things but like there's always stuff that are like pop in my head but i can't do i'm not going to be able to i mean i technically could but like i don't want to do i want to like find my lane that's not vlogging every yeah like i want to find a balance between that and something else. Yeah. And whether that be like something with music or I don't know.

I'll have to, I don't know. I was trying to, I've been like touring with the idea because I just know, I don't, I don't want to get to a point in, because I know, especially starting in January that my life is about to get insane because I'm just going to be, you know, when I'm working here, I'm super busy and then I'm going to be traveling for like three weekends in January. So I don't want to get to a point. point where I start vlogging and then I'm like I can't yeah you know what I mean yeah so like maybe maybe like organizing my schedule a little bit better where I you know I'm toying with the

idea of doing like a solo person podcast kind of like like turning my around the bar segment and my vlogs into a total like like video like I would like I would love to have like a sked it's harder to do like it's harder to do like it's harder to do less when and not know what you want to do then rather what you know you're going to do every day and like kind of but like you wake up knowing what you're going to do yeah like right now i'm like i actually do have an idea of um it reminded me i want to get into not not necessarily fashion but like a lifestyle kind of wave if that makes sense Okay.

Because I don't game. I do plan on streaming, actually. Right. I don't know how much, but I do plan on like casually gaming. I don't know if I'll ever get back to like gaming hardcore and shit all night. I think like fun and exciting game, like our H1 videos or stuff that people would like kind of like want you to. But I would like to like even if I could vlog, I don't know, I would like to get into stuff like fast. and just seeing like cool different sites around the world and like so just like

life style type of stuff just somehow get into kind of that wave and because I don't really play games like I get used to yeah I was thinking like I don't because I just know I want to be underwear model 2018 I've always said that you're gonna be an underwear model yeah if I'm not an underwear model but I 2018 I failed. Damn. And I'm working towards it. I would not be,

even if I had a nice body, I still wouldn't be a good underwear model. Why is that? Because I got a lot of moles on me, man. Like a lot of moles. Yeah. Like moles. I was just waiting for a little weiner joke.

Oh. We're good there. I always think, I always look at myself and I'm like, even if I was like, because I used to have like a six pack, but it was like a skinny person six pack. I was like,

even like even back then I was, But you just didn't have muscle, so that didn't. It didn't look good. I don't, yeah, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not going to really, maybe, maybe, but I am trying to get into like, I've been going hard. Yeah. Like February 1st, I'm going to, I don't know, post a picture probably, but February 1st, I'm going to, February 1st, I'm going to take a pick.

I mean, January 1st I am as well, but like February 1st, I'm going to, February 1st. I'm really, because I pretty much started going hard, like first of December, late November. So like by February 1st, it'll be like a two-month kind of transformation. Yeah. I've been going pretty hard. Like I can just tell with my shirts, fucking filling them out. Right. If I get one pass to LA Fitness could, if I get, do they have like pass in a guest?

There's no guest. There's no guest. If I got one pass, I wonder if Sam and I, can both use it if we go at like different times no no I mean unless you just because they take your picture with your guy's pass how much is it I think PJ just signed up and I think he said it was like high like 20 like 28 a month or so 20 a month no it's like 28 28 a month I think okay all right well but you hold together yeah every more

me and snake bite you've been going stuff yeah even while like sick like even while at home i was going and like every night i do like almost every night i do like 50 push-ups you're trying to get but that's on top of going to the gym yeah but it's been pretty much almost every single day like even when i was sick i only took like two maybe three days off and that's when i was like fever sick Yeah, yeah. And now I'm kind of just getting over it. I do want to work out. But I definitely am realistic with myself that I need to focus more on eating better.

Yeah. Because if I eat better, then working out will be easier because I'll just have more natural energy just to go to it. That's like the only, that's what I need to really start. That's why I went grocery shopping today too. Yeah. That's what I really need to start focusing. thing on. Yeah.

Because I've been, I'll work out and then just like crush raising canes. And that's just fried. Just fried chicken and fries. Fried chicken and fried potatoes. Yeah. Not good. Texas has fat tea food. Oh, dude.

You could put on some pounds here. It fucked me up when I first got here because like, Hax was taking us out for barbecue. And I was like, I can't like, you can't say no. It's so good. Dude, the barbecue here. And like, I, yesterday even, Hex, um, I just ate and then 30 minutes, 30 minutes later, Hexed text me, yo, tacos. I was just like, I can't like say no.

It's just like I'm saying yes. Because then I don't have to eat later. Yeah. Because I'll just be super stuffed right now. That is true. But, yeah, I'm trying to make, trying to, I'm getting, I am. I'm getting fucking shrewdage. I'm getting in shape for the first time in my life.

I've been in, like, I played basketball, but like, I've never. When I first met you, you were pretty. Yeah, but I wasn't like, with my shirt off, I wasn't, like, impressive. I get what you're saying. Like, I just wasn't, like, as good as I can. I just wasn't as good as I can be. Like, my diet was always, I would have muscle, but I've never been, like, shred it right I've always fucking just like got the little muscle yeah and that's kind of where

I'm at right now I'm like getting muscle back but I need to I'm going to I'm determined it has to be now the time is fucking now 2018 let's go so I don't know how we've been sure it off of this but going back to it what I want to do for my schedule of uploading it's like oh you don't want to be Under Romano. Shredded. I kind of want to be, like, I want to be, I, I'm realistically, understand that, like, people that watch my YouTube videos want blogs. And, like, I know that.

But, like, if I tell myself, I'm going to do vlogs every day, I know once it gets to an event or once I have, like, a crazy thing going on here, I'm not going to be able to do it. Like, just because I've, it's, I'm not going to lie to myself anymore. I know. So I kind of want to do, like, like, maybe gaming someday. Like, maybe, like, I wonder how much. My channel would react to like one day dedicated to gaming and then like a podcast day, like three vlog days and then I don't know something else, you know.

Be nice to figure it out. Yeah, it would be. But I, Joe, or yeah, Joe Rogan podcast with Gary V. They had a podcast and like Gary V's just rambling. Yeah. Talking about like just he's a workhorse. Like he's just addicted to doing shit. shit. Yeah. And Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan's like that too, but Joe Rogan likes doing like cool stuff.

Yeah, yeah. Not entrepreneur, entrepreneur, make money. Like, and Gary Vee was talking about that. And Joe was just like, but I don't even like want to, not that I don't want to do that, but like, if I do do that, I'll get obsessed with it. And then it's like, if like, then I'll, it'll be on my mind. Then it'll, like, stress me out. And I don't want that. Even if it is like more money and like what people would want to see kind of like in your case like Yet you could vlog every day, but like that's another thing on your mind. That's going to be another thing stressing you out It's going to be another thing you have to worry about and it's like you don't necessarily need it. I guess like Joe was like instead of doing that I'm going to go do archery because I enjoy it and it's fun. Yeah. Yeah. That's not everyone's a workhorse and Yeah, some people just like other shit.

Yeah. And it's like, I don't know. It's hard for, it's hard as well just because it used to be so easy, dude. People, like, it's so easy for people to say, we used to do it every day. Like, yeah, I used to do it every day, but I used to only upload one video on Nation a day. And I used to have no input. You got a week? A week, yeah.

But I used to have no input about what else happened on Nation. I would just do whatever. And now it's like a lot different than that. It's like kind of like, you know, more responsibility geared towards that. So that's the primary focus of if I can't envision is not even my top priority. And vision is like obviously what I do. And it's not even it's not even like top priority on my list right now. Then vlogging is like way the hell down there.

So I don't want to I don't want to be stressed out by something that's so so far down because you know but then of course like you'll have people come up to you at events they're just like hey you're you're part of my like your vlogs like people someone tweeted us today I don't know if you saw it um they were like uh hey I was overseas in Iraq and like you and maniacs videos or like I don't know if you said like you and maniacs videos I watched like every day I love you all his vlogs you got me through like some of the hardest times you in my life and that was just today. I was like, oh shit, gave it a like.

Yeah. It's like stuff like that is like that's cool. People say that like that like affects you or makes you feel good but like actually does like genuinely like when people people come up to be events to say you're part of my like daily routine like I wake up and and I see I don't get that

because I do I have a daily routine of like I guess kind of like there's no one I just watch every day there's no YouTuber I'm like yeah did new video like some people 6 a.m. hex video like that's how they watch it every single day yeah but like I never got into that so I don't know I don't even know what it's like I don't watch anything every day besides like fucking gay motivational shit um um uh by the way since we're talking about YouTube videos

Did you watch any rap battles over the break? T-Rock first disaster. T-Roc 2-1. Yeah. I'm glad you gave Diz a round, to be honest. His round one. His round one was really good. And I feel like Trey-Roc kind of held back first round.

He always does. Yeah. His first rounds are always like just like kind of like they're up. They're up there. But they're not like. And then his second rounds are always fucking good. And then sometimes it's stuff. Third rounds can be crazy as well.

A good ass battle that, I don't know if you, like, I don't know if you watch it because you're not like a backpack kid, but Iron Solomon and Ilmaculate battled on King of the Dot. Again? They've never battled before. Oh, I was thinking Illamaculate and the Sores. Have you ever seen that battle? Dude, that's one of the best battles all the time. Yeah, that shit's crazy.

That's what they used to upload, like, battle different rounds as separate YouTube videos. I don't have to go find round three. I don't want to venture off and forget about the Iron Solomon thing. But what was the quote that El Macculate said to the Soros? Dude, that was like something about like not being on his album. Like El Macculet said like. Oh, yeah. This is, yeah.

I remember you quoting it to me. I don't know it. I wish I could remember it right now. I just remember at the very end he's just like, because Elmack won that battle because he was smarter. because he wrote an overtime verse or a overtime round. He had extra material. Really? And that's when grind time used to go into overtime.

Like if there was three rounds. I mean, it probably shouldn't even went to overtime. You think Elmach won? Yeah. I just like, I mean, just looking back right now, I'm like, yeah. But this wasn't bad. Oh, yeah, it was a great battle. It was a punch fest.

Yeah. And he just, the way he orchestrated his like overtime where he just, just like he exposed him for everything that he'd ghost written he was like when you used to say this this this against dumbfounded that was that is that his overtime yeah that was his overtime and and he's exposing some of the best stuff that thesaurus has ever said like some of the dude like oh man and he's just like that was me and i i like watched the interview with thesaurus after that battle he was like i did not know he was going to go that hard like because they were still friends like they were really good friends and they were just battling each other

And he was like, he was like, damn. Like he went, he, he said everything. Like, no holding back for him. So, yeah. But the Iron Solomon The Soros, or the Iron Solomon Ilmac battle, because they've been around since the grind time era. Was that on URL? No, it was on cue of that.

But they had never battled. Dude, it's phenomenal. Really? It's so good. I got to watch that when I get back after this. And I'm, yeah, Elmack won. Bill Mac won, but I don't think Iron Solomon, ever since he's come back, I don't think he's had a week round. Iron Solomon battled someone on URL just recently.

Rum did he. And apparently, I can't wait for that shit to try. Apparently, Iron Solomon had like the best, like, battle. People are saying it's the battle of 2017. I was like, on URL, the last time that Iron Solomon was on URL, but it was the boot shit. Yeah. Dude. Don't even get me started about that battle.

Tayrock and Sue Sir first DNA and Kashon. Because I rewatch that. Like, yeah, I rewatch that last night. That shit is like, that shit gives me chills. That's like the last time.

Just that first round? Yeah. Was it like, um, some shirt easy. I forget how he sets it up and then. Oh, Beasley.

But I forget, I completely forget how he thinks it. Yeah, yeah. Also, dude, Dude, the 2B2, because grind time people and King of the Dot people were like, wow, URL is doing 2B2 battles. I wonder where they got that from. They were like feeling like that.

But some of the stuff that came out of those 2V2 battles, like you got the whole DNA. I mean, DNA K-Shine, they didn't start it, but they made it cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The 2v2 stuff has been, I remember watching that in like 2008 with Elaculate and the Soros. Exactly. They were two people. They were like the ogres in hayla.

Just running through anyone in a 2v2. Yeah, but that's why the backpack scene was saying that. Because the URL scene back then always said it was corny or whatever because they were just like gang, gang shit up in your face, like talking shit. And other people are like, I'm going to, your mama died. Like, yeah. I'm going to hit you with a llama twice. What is it? Your father died.

Well, he didn't tell you that I'm the guy that plays. out the homicide that wait who said the Soros holy shit he said that yeah I remember that yeah Elmack goes like like because he said because the other dude he's like you don't know what it's like to be like my father died and then immediately your father died too bad I'm the guy that put out the homicide I was like holy dude some of their even like the hosts and shit back they still do it now but like I remember and just like some of other 2 v2 battles even the host were just like yeah dude

whatever you get no one could whenever it was free all like freestyle like freestyle like barely written whenever you get like organic or like smack to to react that's got to be the best feeling dude that's why I love watching smack react to teryok because that's like it's like I can just tell smack loves tei rock and he'll just be behind him like just geeking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like smack would do, like, like, sometimes I'm looking at the background, he's just like this. Like, he does the tongue thing.

But the battle, because they've known each other for so long and, and like they have, like, so much on them and I don't know, I guess Iron Solomon came out, like, kind of fierce, like, kind of like, yeah, because he's usually like really, like, singing and really, whatever. But he's, he came out, like, hard.

And to the point where Elmack was like, whoa. And then, but Ilmec said some crazy shit, dude. But yeah, that was,

that was, that was, if anyone cares about that around. Yeah, sorry. I mean, sorry, we forgot about you guys.

But, the flies. That's going to happen sometimes. The flies. The flies. That's good. But yeah,

I can't wait for that iron solomon rummed anything to drop. I want to see what people. were talking about. There's a video because I was watching like I was trying to find a bootleg of it. I'm not going to lie. So, but there was just a bunch of,

I never do that for real. There was just a bunch of, there was a bunch of like interviews and Iron Solomon sitting there talking and he's like, like, like talking about the battle and talking about how it's like cool to be on smack and like kind of respect it again, I guess. And Tayrock comes out of nowhere and daps him up and puts his arm around him. Oh, I did.

He was like, this is my dude. And I did I talk. tweeted at you because I remember I was going to send a screenshot to you because those are our two like favorites so or not I don't know if you're still my I think I just randomly stumbled across it real yeah I was like I was like I was like appreciate that man like nah you're that guy but I guess that's that's that's gonna do it is that do you guys enjoy that battle rap talk yeah if you guys I know all like like Like, what? 20 of you? Like 6% of people that watch the video. Less than that.

Yeah, probably way less than that. How long has it been? Hour 21? Shit. Hour 20. It's probably like hour 18 or something like that. It's probably what time here? Almost 1 a.m.

Yeah, it's midnight. Yeah. So just a quick update. We're ordering, I'm ordering some stuff tonight. Actually, when I get back to try to figure out what we're going to do as far as Flycast. is concerned and then I'm also going to use that for this new podcast thing I might do. So, uh, so I don't know. We, we, we said this last time.

This might, we'll probably change scenery's, but we might not. Well, we did. We said it last time. But it's like, once you start looking into it, like, because you were like, yo, all right. How about this? And now it's like, eh. Yeah.

What about this? And then it's like, we, we start like looking into, we, we did look. into it and like planned on it but then when we started seeing stuff it was like let's make sure we get the right stuff yeah yeah so well uh well we're gonna be working on that so the flycast is going to like we said in the last podcast it's it's not gonna be this one-off video anymore it's gonna be uh we're trying to get it on different platforms and Spotify uh and every week or app podcast on iTunes or whatever and every week and every week every week it's very very important there's no reason it shouldn't yeah

you guys you guys seem to like it you guys seem to like two random guys that are nerds for a living talk about random stuff

that's it do we have an outro music ha ha ha