The Flycast - BasicallyIDoWrk on The Fall of Gaming | Flycast Ep. 183

Episode Date: March 14, 2026

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Yeah, my, uh, plumbing's fucked up, so I have to use jugs now. Dude, shot up. That's fucking disgusting. It's good, though. Well, nice to meet you, but I think we've met before. Didn't we do, uh, something? Was it like a Minecraft video that we did? Yeah, it was been playing.

Minecraft video? Yeah. We tried to beat it without, or one day or whatever? I can't. What was it? It was us and it was Blake. And it was. Oh, yeah, yeah, it was.

It was you guys in Blake. I don't remember the, what was the objective, though? We were trying to, so it was like every time somebody gifted us a sub or something, something else got added to the end. Oh, then Taco Picante's fucked it all up. Yes, yeah, the guy that was gifting 100 subs a second or something from Venezuela. Yeah, and I found out that I was getting, wait, yeah. I was getting like 49 cents on those because they didn't convert it. Yeah.

I remember that. You're like, what the fuck this dude's gifted like? 600 or something. We were like, what? So stupid. But it's like, all right,

welcome back to another episode of the podcast. Episode. Episode who gives a fuck today. We've got a very special guest in the building. We've got myself and Nick. Marcel has also decided to join us as well. I'm here. Also,

you said you've been grinding a Pokemon's? Picopia, dude. Or whatever, the animal crossing. Animal Crossing. Pokemon. Yeah, it's it's like Minecraft and Animal Crossing had a baby. I have heard I've heard good things about it.

It's it has like it has the Pokemon in it but it's like you don't have to know anything about Pokemon. You just like build the villages and like it's Minecraft. It looks addicting. If you have ADHD, if you're on the spectrum, don't pick it up.

Nick, you should play it. When it sounds like, wait, what are we? Because I saw you sit in just like right here played and I was like, wow, that would be perfect to lay in bed and rot for like 14 hours? I'm like 50 hours in, I swear to God. Holy shit. It came out two days ago, right?

I know. I haven't put it down. So is it Pokemon or is it? I've never played Animal Crossing. But Pokemon, I get the gist of how it's played dabbling in the new stuff these days. I feel like my brain can't handle it. It doesn't have like the battling system or anything. You just got to like build the habitat for the Pokemon.

Pokemon. Interesting. It's fun. It's fun. They had little missions like, like, yo, like Pikachu, I need to go find my brother, and you got to go find it,

and you got to build its habitat, hope it shows up. So is it almost like a story game? Kind of, yeah. It's an open world, too, so you can do whatever you want. Ah, see, I do like, is there, is it like,

what do you call it? Not PVP, but like, is there other people on the server? You can make a server with four people. Oh, okay. Or you can just play by yourself. Yeah. I just bought a,

I just bought a little Mac, refurbished. I'm on a budget. Of course. But I might, I might, because I've been playing World of Warcraft a little bit. It's like,

like I haven't played or dove into a game. And so literally I think it's been, since I sat here with the controller, it might be like over a year at this point. Maybe last year when I was watching Halo, I might have picked up the controller once or twice. but I don't know, but lately I've been diving into World of Warcraft, and I don't know, it's just kind of fun sitting there, right?

But like sometimes I just like being in my bed. I don't know about you, but I just love being in my bed. Normal people, they'll sit at their desk, but I feel like I just bought my MacBooks. I'm like, damn, I kind of need, I don't know if it's on the PC at all, but maybe, what is it, a DS, Nintendo. Switch two. Did you just say DS? Yes, it's like, DS.

That's like 2005, 2004. What the fuck? Holy shit. I've never owned one of those. I don't know what the fuck. The most unk thing I've ever heard you say. D.S. is a crazy thing. The unc shit's a whole other fucking story.

God. No, it's bad. No, Nintendo Switch, I haven't had a reason to get the Switch to because I didn't really want to play. What was the big game that came out for the Switch 2? It launched with just Mario Kart. Yes. See, I didn't really care.

I didn't really care about. They launched the whole console? Yeah. A whole new one. With just Mario Kart. It was like 600 and something bucks out the gate in it. You could play Mario Kart and they were like, Donkey Kong's coming in like a month.

And then like, the thing about Nintendo is like, they just, they like, they edge you. It's like, there's this new feature. It's dope.

But there's, it's this close to being like perfect. And then they'll never give it to you. So they're like, you can play Mario Kart with face cam. We're like, let's get on it. But only four people.

going to have a face cam but you can play with 32 people so it's like so there is a there's a camera built in to the switch no you it comes separate it's a little webcam or you or you can plug in any usb oh any USB cam yeah oh okay that makes sense yeah i did see the really the same thing happened with the first switch i was like it's only zelda it's only a new zelda i didn't know it was going to be the best zelda ever made but yeah i was like you know it's just one zelda i don't if I really want it. But then I eventually got it because everyone said that was the best Zelda of all time. It is.

And then I had, yeah, I had some, I had some, like, some fun times. There were a couple of Pokemon games and, uh,

and, you know, I played a little bit of Skyrim and Minecraft and Zelda on the first one. And I was like, that was pretty good. And then I don't know. I don't know if I can get the second one until now, until Pokeopia,

Pocopia. That shit looks fire. It looks so good. It's fun. It's fun. I'm gonna go I'm gonna be my own Matt Craig right now pick copia pocopia P-O-K-O-P-I-A so you've never played it but you don't need do you even know what Animal Crossing is Nick I've heard of it I've never I mean Animal Crossing went ham like soon as

COVID started everybody was on it really yeah everybody was on like oh dude Alexis put like 500 hours yes I can believe that when I think when I think grown man I was like I got to all the colors of flowers. See, I just look, like, what the, I wish I could just bring up my image. And I can't move my webcam or the fucking unplugging my PC, whole PC where you said. But I'm just looking at the animal crossing, like, I guess it's just the, I'm looking at the game. And it's just like, I don't know, it's just not drawing me in. It looks like you're either a child or you're like a girl.

You're a ditto. So the whole, the whole premise is like humans are gone. They're just, we don't know, they're gone. And you're a ditto pretending to be your trainer and you got to restore the world. So it's like, you go to like, you go to like Surillian City and it's like decrepit. Like everything's run down. And it's like you get achievements for like fixing the roads, restoring the electricity. They look so happy though.

I heard there's like, it's super peaceful. It looks like you can people are saying it looks like you can put like tens of thousands of hours into it. Oh, absolutely. So you get, you have your starting island, and then there's three other islands that you go to. And it's like, very specific. You got like your underground area. You got your beach area. And then you get your own blank slate area.

Okay. Name it whatever you want. I just got there. And I was like, okay, I'm going to make it dope. The first Pokemon I run into, Mew2, so I'm like, I got to make you the best house in the world. Wait, so you don't catch the Pokemon. No, you like, you, you, they show up. So basically like, you make, you make an area that they would like to live.

It'll be like this Pokemon might like this and it'll show you what to do. You build it and they show up and they're like, I'll live here and you're like bet. Okay. It's that simple. So you don't catch them. You don't, there's no catching, no battling. They're your homies. They're just your boys.

And so is it rare, is it like, is there rarities of which Pokemon could show up? Yeah. So the Muteu was very. lucky? Yeah. Oh, fuck yeah. Is that your, is that your rarest Pokemon friend so far? Yeah, I think I can get like all the legendaries right now, but it's a, it's a process. It's a long process. Because like, in order to get like this certain, certain like irons and like stuff like that, you got to have a fire Pokemon like cook it in the furnace. So then you got to like move them around. It's, it's complicated. It seems like it's task to task basis and there's unlimited tasks. And it's

real time base too. So it's like, if you build a Pokemon, Mon Center, it'll be done tomorrow. So I just straight up, I straight up move the fucking clock forward, done. So you're hacking. I'm time traveling every day. I don't get a fuck. There's some other game that was kind of like that. Oh, was it?

Maybe is, is it? Was clash of clans like that? Did I try to plan that? Oh, yeah. Clash of clans. It was real time. For fucking ever to bill. Oh, yeah.

There's probably something. But like I saw that. You could either like pay to fucking. Yep. To go forward. Go for or just wait. And I'm like, yeah, I'm just not playing this shit. The thing that pisses me off is like, it takes a day to build a Pokemon center.

So if you start it at 1201 a.m. It won't be done until the next day. Oh, oh, so it only takes one day. Yeah, but a full, like it takes an entire day. Unless you time travel. If you start out on the fourth, it won't be done to the fifth. So it's just everyone time traveling? I guess.

Some people aren't. Some people are stupid. Some people are doing it legit. Kind of makes it fun, though. Doing it legit. It gives you, like, real, like, you know, while that's building, you got to do something else. Yeah, but you can still do that. You can still do other stuff.

There's so much to do. It's just, like, why limit it at all? So in Animal Crossing, you get, like, a little, like, world, kind of. But it's, like, kind of small. I would say it's the size of, like, I don't know, like four chunks in Minecraft. Like, it's not big. Uh-huh. Is this, like, way big?

bigger uh the let's say the starting area is like 16 to 20 chunks what and then there's four of those whole oh so this is like what is it like eight times the size of my of animal crossing probably like 20 times it's yeah it's it's massive some people are going to be losing their uh Their jobs. People are going to be job. Yeah. Jobs. Lives, wives.

It's all gone. Yeah. People stream this? Yeah. Do you stream it? I haven't streamed it yet. I was going to stream it today, but we have a windstorm. I think of my power is going to go out.

Oh. Hell yeah. Just whatever. You still want to, well, this was supposed to be, first off, fucking Zoom meeting. This was, this was a shout out Matt Craig. I'm sure there is. I'm sure there's a reason why it couldn't be.

done but it was this was supposed to be a started doing like you know when hitches Arizona is in Arizona because he's in love and shit yeah we do we do Minecraft episodes and kind of just like dick around or whatever so it was supposed

to be that but uh yeah and then last time I saw you at we were on Minecraft you still playing Minecraft at all I was thinking me and hex we're thinking about playing again starting a server and shit starting something I think fuck with Minecraft heavy like those like two three weeks I'm addicted

yeah like that's about how it goes I'm all about like if the server is popping I'll play it forever but as soon as people stop playing I'll stop playing too yeah yeah yeah you don't ever single you don't ever single world it single player world it no no hardcore no I I've I've never beat it in hardcore ever bro you should do that yeah people would fuck with that you trying to be it in hardcore like I was gonna Because like the wifey doesn't play games at all, like period. Right. Like she played Zelda, like the greatest game ever.

Yeah. She played it for like two weeks straight. And she was stuck on something. And I was just like, okay, what do you need to do? She was like, I'm here. And I was like, okay, you just got a sprint jump. And she was like, how do you sprint? You been playing for two weeks.

She didn't know what a sprint. So I thought it would be a fun challenge to try to beat Minecrafters in general, but she only has like five lives. And if she dies, we got to start over. that's also doable. That's also do it. People do, people do stuff like that.

Yeah. Yeah, that would be, that would be good. I just got, I went to bikini beans. What, is that one of the bikini baristas?

It's one of the bikini baristas. We just got back from it. We got those up here a lot. We have so many. In Seattle? We have so many bikini baristas. It's just, it's freezing,

isn't it? Yeah, what the hell? They got heaters in that bitch. They're all, they're all doing the fent lane like this. In bikini. It's bad.

It's bad up here. Do you live around the city? Fit Capitol Hill. Yeah. So I used to live downtown like during the peak of like COVID when it was bad. But I live in West Seattle. It was it was so. The block behind me was it was voted the worst, most dangerous street to walk down in the United States.

What? During COVID. It was bad. I see the thing. I don't know if I consider it dangerous. Everyone's just so like I'm more. sketched out walking in like Oblock

Yeah Or deep ellum And fucking Yeah And here in Dallas or something Like what I feel like in Seattle I wrote a You know it's like

It's like harmless zombies Like I don't feel scared I just feel like It's just uncomfortable Just just alert You just gotta be like ready You're like Yeah

It's not scared But like I had a friend I had a friend A roundhouse kicked in the face As soon as he walked out of his apartment By a homeless dude He opened the door You're going to sit foot to the face.

Holy shit. When a street wins most dangerous street, like, you know, like, do they put like a certificate somewhere? Like this is someone like a statue or something? Is like, you know, roundhouse kick to the face guy? Like, except this award. He's got a medal or a ribbon. Sash or something.

Most dangerous roundhouse kicker or something. Because there's like, I went to a waffle house one time that was voted the best waffle house in America. It was in Jessup, Georgia. and they have a humongous certificate still there and it was from like 2009

and it's still in oh I guess you have your 2009 certificate behind you too I didn't mean I didn't mean what's wrong with accomplishing one great thing per life you know yeah hey

what do you want to be remember by you know what I'm saying I want something yeah yeah I was a videographer no I don't have anything here I've got nothing. Nothing, man.

But, yeah, I can imagine, I can't believe there's bikini beans in Seattle. So they just, they put the, they put the heaters out, is what you're saying? Yeah, they have these little like pop-up sheds or whatever, like ladybugs or some shit. I don't know what they're called. We have a brand. A ladybugs? That's like a chain, put on bikini, bikini baristas. Did Alexis go with you?

Yeah, it was her idea. Oh. I mean it'd obviously not be your idea It's called Ladybug Expresso We've got like 40 of them Oh my God, they are shacks Is that really? No, Nick, look this up

Ladybug They're all over the place Ladybug bikini espresso It's legitimately a shack Do you see that dude could go viral He went to the drive-thew and his pants off? Yeah He got arrested

Oh, was it at one of those? Yeah Oh, it's fine little thing It's basically It's just stripper that get off work and then go sell coffee yeah bikini beans i you know i hate to i i hate to be one of these guys but bikini beans is a little bit more of a upstanding it's upscale yeah it's it's more yeah look up bikini coffee shop yeah look up bikini beans see this is this is this is a little bit more

in in arizona we do it a little bit more high class this looks like an actual establishment yeah it's like a starbucks and donuts right exactly they're just there just Just not wearing. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. We have, like, yeah, these are just strippers. Yeah, y'all have just shacks. Just, yeah, it's a stripper shack. Just shacked up in Seattle.

I wonder if they have any, what would I search, bikini? Bikini, barista stand. Burista, I'm not a coffee guy, but I could make an excuse. But you're a bikini guy. Yeah. I mean, am I? You never know until you know, who I'm saying? I was thinking about going to the bikini.

beans and asking them if I could like make a YouTube video where on April 1st I just hired a bunch of like really like really fat like white dudes and we do like we do like pranks you know like it's April fools you try you're going to bikini beans you think there's going to be a bikini a barista with bikini out there and instead it's just like a big fat guy with speed with a speedo on shirtless and he comes out there and gives you your coffee is the A little more expensive because it's a girl? No. No, it's just regular coffee.

Just to piggyback off the prank thing in order to get started, what you could do is get a bunch of like attractive women in bikinis and do like car wash signs. And then as soon as they pay, you roll out the fat white dudes. Yes. And they come out and start washing the cars. Or we could just get optic. Yeah, yeah. Just Zinny.

You. I'm sure Hax is down. No, I haven't taken my shirt off on camera. It's 20 years. I mean, we do. We do got to start coming up with ideas. They try to pitch me for, uh, I mean, I've probably been asked this a hundred times, but James said to me, I think it was yesterday.

He was like, yo, we're going to do a 20v1. We'll let you pick your panel as if like, oh, okay, then. Oh, oh, yeah. Like, it'll be like me out. Like, have you ever watched the panel? who does it? Yeah, like the sideman. Yeah, the sideman would do that.

Yeah. Like it'll be a panel with them in like a back room. And one dude's out there just 20B1 or some shit. And James tried to throw that idea at me. I was like, fuck no. Come on. See, but then everyone always says this. Like, come on.

You fucking do it then. Why not? You wouldn't have done it if you didn't have a girl. We don't have neck tattoos. That's why you're going to do it. Yeah, you obviously don't do it. That's how they look at it too. You got neck tattoos.

Dude, there is, I would, A, have to be, no. I just, I just know, like, bro, I get nervous enough at a bar drunk trying to make something happen, let alone like a 20V1 standing there and just like, I don't know. But you're the prize though. Trying to make conversation with each of them. They don't give a fuck. They just want camera time. They just want camera time. They just want camera time.

They're Instagram tags. People in the comments, who is that? What's her at? they're not here for me man i'm here for love i'm not with these games no more got time to waste you don't think anybody's ever found love doing a 20 v1 absolutely not yeah not i don't like not once has anybody even found love doing like the reality shows like the bachelor things like that so love is blind seattle is the most successful city so far seattle i think we got i think we went six for eight and they're still

married? What the fuck? Six for eight? So wait, hold on. You're gonna have to explain. I've never seen love is blind. You've never seen love is blind. No, Nick, Nick told me it's pretty horny, though. The, the reunion is today. It's today. Oh, shit. So love is blind is basically it's, there's a wall between you and the people you're talking to. Okay. You, you just take notes and you talk to these people all day. And then you propose sight unseen after like a couple weeks. Propos like you propose You ask them to marry you Behind a wall

You never met them before And then they You reveal yourselves to them afterwards And then you go You go on a honeymoon And then you got to survive it And then actually get to the altar And that's when you decide

If you want to stay married or not What? I didn't know this part wait Wait They spend approximately 10 days In the pods that they They're called pods Dating before getting

engaged 10 days wait so is there is there a bunch of different guys a bunch of different girls or is this it's just it's just a couple it's like 20 dudes 20 girls and then you just you speed date like through a wall so there's oh so there are 20 different people that are getting married that proposed so it's never really disclosed how many people propose they only fall they they pick who they want to show on camera so there's people that like um that get they they do the whole experiment but don't get any screen time at all period okay and holy shit they choose wait is that the is that the one that you used to watch nick no no no nick you nick would tell me about i watch like make out with each other of like love island love island is what i was thinking that's what i was like that's the horny one that's

the horny one yeah horny is shit like they're all just like i don't know i don't know i'd be getting sick to my stomach because it's like they'd be going on there though you might have a crush on a girl that you meet for the first like three or four days y'all are hanging in You hook up twice. Hook up twice. And then like two days later, there's a challenge. And a new guy comes in. And he's making out with your girl.

His face. You know what the fuck? Yeah. It's fucking, um. No, you got to watch naked attraction. No, that's the one. Naked attraction. There's more.

That's the one with the, that's the one with the down syndrome guys? No, that's the one where. No, that's level of the spectrum. Oh, level of the spectrum. How am I supposed to know? Negative attraction is like, take love is blind, except for all you get to see is titty's dick and vagina i see now where that's where i would go talking more you pick just off of like a box and you just see boobs and you see it's generals only

what's it called naked attraction naked attraction and they're up there's like i don't know man like his dick just doesn't look like it doesn't look pretty um yeah swear to god it's on now that's my kind of show like let's talk more action let's let's really get down to it like i don't give a fuck like where you're from what you do back good oh my god do i like your tits is your ass shaped weird can i can i see like there's too much hair going on like do you have enough time i wonder if you have enough time to fluff up i'm sure i'm sure you got time to like hit a tan i bet so man's there rock fucking hard you can't but all those cameras all those people watch there's no

There's got to be. There's no way, bro. There's no way. I feel like that might turn me own more. That's like gas station dick pill. You got to take one of those for real just to have max length. You got to hit one of these. Just like start helicopter in it or something.

Yeah. Just really, really fluff up. Smacking it to your left and right. Hank. I just can't imagine with that many people watching a whole production crew. There's no way. There's no way.

There's no way. You'd have to be next level like freak, like, freak. Like, I mean, just look at. the show it's just locked in you gotta be next level like it's this on where's it where is it it looked like it was on Hulu it's our HBO HBO oh so you

actually see everything you see everything you see everything yeah I gotta see what some of these dudes look I mean some of these people look like it's like you feel you feel you feel uncomfortable and then you just get like desensitized like it's like the like the history planet or history

You know what I'm saying? You're just like oh yeah I just know that once you see like African tribe Yeah yeah it's like this isn't even sexual this seen one dick you see them all you know what I mean That yeah I guess that's true there's a few different types but it's a few different times circumcised unscumcised yeah right just Basically cut uncut I had no idea about this yeah that might be your vibe right that might be your vibe right that might be i don't know if my hbo account still i've been grinding HBO lately

i've been grind in hbill i've been watching i'm i started like two weeks ago and i'm on season seven of entourage right now that's a good vibe show man it's such a good show are we talking was i talking to you about that the other day it's like

so i've been watching it um just like when i was younger i'd watch that show and be like i'm gonna let's that's basic yeah I was with you. And I was like, that's going to be our type of life. And then we all ended up like turtle.

Yeah. And I said, we're all turtle. That's what I said. Yeah, yeah. We're all turtle. Yeah, yeah. And then, what, hex? Hex and scumper.

Hax and Seth or Vince, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a good, that's a good vibe show. I just started a, what is it last chance? You? I don't know if you're like, the basketball, the basketball, the basketball guys? Yeah.

I've been watching the football one. It's pretty good, actually. Like season one? Like the first season? I watched the last season first for some reason because I just played play and that. Hell yeah. And then I went back to the first season. Uh, kind of got boring.

So I skipped to the third season where like this insane coach comes in where all he motherfucker. He's like, gets in his player's face like. Yeah. The basketball guy? You've probably, no, it's football. But it's still football? Oh, oh, I know who you're talking about.

I think you're talking about it. You've probably seen him like, it's just like kind of. a tall, bigger white dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just fucking. Season three is good. Have you seen it? I've seen the first four seasons, yeah.

I stopped, I didn't, I didn't watch the basketball season. I stopped watching the basketball. Yeah, I haven't watched that. It was really, really good. Do you, do you, speaking, since we were talking about reality TV show, Marcel, do you, do you miss it? You want to go back? I would do another show, but I would, uh, negotiate my, day rate because I didn't know you can negotiate how much you get paid for your time.

Okay. So I would 100% do another one because like you, it puts you in a different like mental state. Yeah. It's, it's very unusual. It's also weird that there's not a lot of reality shows that don't deal with like love. You got kind of lucky. Yeah. Like you can go on that show that you went on without even though it was a complete flop and

it's not even on Peacock anymore. Wait, it's not? Now they remove that shit. Where is it now? How is it? no idea. Wait, let's start from the beginning. I knew you did a show, and then I actually,

I want to ask you about something else, but I knew you did a show. What was, just, I don't know. I knew you were on a show and that's it. So they hit me up, basically, and it was like, you want to do the show? I was like, yeah. And then it was a new show that they were trying to launch.

And it was a great concept. Filming it was great. And it was basically, we all lived, we all lived together 24-7 filmed the entire time and we have this basically we have this online chat like a group chat

where you are hidden behind an emoji so you would pick your emoji you'd be like I want to be a fucking turtle and you have conversations you're like yo hitch is a piece of shit he needs to go on oh my god the trolling that would happen

and then you like then you leave and I'm sitting across me I'm like yo who the fuck is turtle and you're like I have no idea and then you would vote somebody off at the end of the night and then it's like yeah and if you if you remained more anonymous it's called the anonymous if no one could figure out who you were you decided who got eliminated yeah that's super interesting basically like real life among us i guess is what they were kind of going to go for and it was it was great the the editing team really dropped

the ball in my opinion yeah if you look up the anonymous you're the first thing that comes up I mean, I got fucking second place. I don't get a fuck. That shit is crazy. So what season was it? There's only one season. Literally one and done. Oh, really?

One and done. It was on USA? Yeah, it was on USA. They aired it Tuesday at 10 p.m. Nice. I was like, you really just, like right after WWE. Like, you really set us up for success. But I didn't know they took it.

I took it, they took it off Hulu, though. I have it, like, recorded because I watched it on YouTube TV. So I think I might have the only copy in existence. Yeah, you need to put it on a DVD. For real. Start sending it out places. Did you know going on to the show, it was going to be like, yo, great concept. This is going to bang.

It's going to be on Hulu. Like, this is going to be big. Like, was that your head going into it? Or did you just have no idea? Like, fuck it. I'll just do a reality show. I mean, it was always on my bucket list to do one. So I was like, this is my opportunity.

And, you know, I expected it to be decent. I mean, because originally they didn't know where it was going to go. They just knew that NBC was a producer. And then the people that made the show are sort of behind, like, the traitors. I don't know if you watch that show on Peacock. That one's big. And then they've done a couple of the big ones too.

So I was like, they've got in their bag how to make a good show. And they produced a good show. It's just NBC and USA editing really, really dropped the ball. That's my opinion. like did you know what like you were since obviously you were living in it like during it you're like damn this is going to be like some good yeah you like consciously know like damn they're gonna this this is gonna be fucking good but then you watch the show and they're like they did not like put this together right at all

yeah it was like when we were filming it we're like this is this is a good concept every like twist was good every little like thing like just just from a game perspective i was like this is a good game this is a really good game and it was like if you like you live your whole life and someone gives you a book of your whole life and they ripped out half the pages you're like you missed a whole chapter about me doing this and this and that

they missed a bunch of that a bunch of like storylines and that and stuff yeah like I know that feeling just a little whole whole plot line is just gone you know what I'm saying how do you know that feeling Nick because I did a

um and I'm not gonna say his name I don't want people like I'm cool with them he's he's doing his thing but uh i did a um a 60 day challenge like workout challenge remember what i did like two summers ago

right two years ago or some shit and uh maybe three years ago jesus but uh 60 days i paid this dude um to like help me to basically just like film it help me come up with concert like i want to make this a 60 day transformation documentary type of style and first day we sat down and i did the typical like empty chair dark lights i sit down i started getting

emotional i was like i wasn't crying but i was like basically crying and i was just like kind of just like pouring my heart out and saying like you know this is the time time to change my life blah blah blah and then he sends me like the basically throughout the two months it was just like it turned into i was just like man i feel like this isn't really going out this isn't really going oh this isn't really getting anywhere like we're kind of doing the same stuff every week like this is going to be fucking this is probably going to be boring and then he sends me the thing at the end shows me what he has and it's basically 60 days yeah after 60 days he works on it for like a couple weeks or something sends me and it just basically seemed like a long fucking vlog and i was just like man

and then i knew when i watched in the beginning i don't even know if i finished it but when i watched in the beginning in my first initial interview wasn't in it i was like bro I couldn't have gave you I was acting I couldn't have gave you a better fucking start for this documentary so it's just like I don't know I had just

things in my head away in my head of that it was supposed to go and it just didn't happen like that so yeah no I've been there too man yeah same same thing basically you had what NBC I had a dude from up the block

with a camera you had NBC I had dude from Yeah, there's not, but there aren't many reality shows that aren't about love. Like you would do Survivor? I wouldn't do Survivor. Hell no. I don't want to be uncomfortable. So you did the only one that you can do.

I just saw one because somebody asked me, they're like, would you do another one? And I was like, yeah, we were talking about it. Because they got offered to do Destination X. Have you seen that one? No. They're on season two. Basically, you're like blindfolded the whole time. And then like you, it's like geogessor by IRL.

Oh shit. And they drop you in a location. You got to figure out where the fuck you are. Ooh, that's pretty fire. That's fire. What the hell? Good if like everyone's a fucking idiot. You get some of that, oh, fucking cloud northwest.

That, but like that's all, that's all to casting. Like they, they know like, for me, like, you think a whole psych test. Like they, they have your entire personality. like downloaded and they know exactly like the right combination of people to put i'd be like i'm excited oh this is nbc peacock as well yeah oh man but is this one coming up i think season two's coming out soon oh i got to watch this i got to watch the naked one and destination x those are those are those are the two on my on my i would know my back burner i would be down for the naked one and wait what was the last one uh where they drop you somewhere destination destination x yeah i would do

stuff like that. The Love Island shit, all that other stuff. I would do the race one too. You have a partner? The Amazing Race? I would do that one too. I would do that one too. The Amazing Race. I never watched it. I never watched it. But I remember it coming on

back when commercials were a thing. I remember seeing the commercials for it. Because I feel like if you gave me a decent partner, we would just be entertaining as shit. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, is this where you got to like go across? You're like sprint and like figure out clues and shit. Is it like you're going across the world almost?

Yeah, kind of. You start here. And whoever gets to Prague first wins. You got to be in Prague. Whoever gets to Prague first doesn't get eliminated. Yeah, that would be fun. But you also have to like do stuff. Yep.

There's like little challenges. Yeah, little challenges on the way there. There's like a movie about that. I saw on your Instagram story you said you're going to run 100 miles, Nick. Speaking of that, you got to look at the time of which I put that. 2 a. Yeah. It's 2 a.m.

Like, I'm not thinking coherently. I'm motivated. You know when 2 a.m. hits and you're motivated? You're like, I'm going to set my alarm early for 30 minutes from now and start working. Yeah. I'm going to work out and I'm going to run 100 miles. No, I am, I'm for sure going to do a marathon. In what time frame?

In what time frame? How long I would run out to no, like, like how long is you like you're going to go one shot? Are you going to like it's like over the course of like a couple weeks? No, 100 miles. Oh, fuck that. 100 miles one shot, but listen, this was just some like 1 a.m. I just watched the, I do want to do a marathon. Marathon this year 100%, because I have been like,

I've been doing pretty well as far as like cardio and running and stuff. Pretty consistent. Not good enough yet, but this year's a marathon for sure. There was, have you seen the, the NELC 100 Mile documentary? Or do you know what they did? No, what they do? knelt boys the Kyle and yeah I was some of his friends they ran a hundred miles like straight within like 20 six hours or some shit yeah just to do it and it was like a fundraiser and stuff

like it was streamed the entire time they I think they prepped for like 75 days which is not long at all to prep to run 100 miles but yeah less than three months yeah it was a it was a really good documentary like short sort of showed them from the beginning and some of their training and then just the run itself and Drake donated like 150 grand. He's home. He's home during during their, uh, during the stream. But yeah, I watched that. It was actually like a very good documentary, very well made.

So like after afterwards, that's when I threw up, uh, I'm, I'm gonna do this. But I don't know if that actually happened. Yeah, I've seen some crazy like ultra marathon documentaries and they're, uh, they're nuts. They're there, those are nutty. No lab 240. Yeah, the 1, 240 miles. What's the one where you got to get all the, the reason I started talking about is because of the,

we were just talking about the amazing race, but there's one where you got to, you got to run in the mountains and you have to collect pieces of paper. They have like books set up next, like stapled to trees, and you have to go and rip out a page of the book, put it in your little thing, and you do five different laps. And all five laps.

they think it's around like 150 miles, but it's like hiking. You're not, you're hiking. You're not like even running. I think it's the Barclay Marathon. Yeah, the Barclay Marathon. A bunch of miles in Tennessee where runners must locate nine to 14 hidden books per loop. Terrell pages matching their bib number to prove they navigated the end of course, blah, blah, blah.

Dude, those documentaries, documentaries about the Barkley Marathons are crazy. They're, they're so, they're so cool because they're these are just psychopaths, psychopaths that like to run. Like people, they'll, they'll finish a loop and then they have like 20 minutes before they start the next one. So they'll go, they'll drink an entire Coke, like a leader of Coke. And then they'll sleep like this for like eight minutes. And then they're like, okay, I can do another hundred. Or just another loop, I'll do another 25.

Yeah, I'll do another 25. I'm good. You ever dive into fitness or? any expeditions like that? I went on two hikes, that's it. No gym time, no. I know the gym, but like, that's it, but I'm not. How did you lose all your weight?

Because you lost, you, you had like a... Just walking on the goddamn treadmill and then sit in this morning? Yeah. Beating less. Eat less, fasting. Damn. Yeah, pretty sure Hitch said he was gonna... Something about running or optic running.

Listen, man, I'm still... Even right now, I'm faster than you. No. Even like right this second. Now I'm getting mad. Right when I joined Optic, I was the fastest, and I've been the fastest every year since. That's not true, but I'll like,

what years were you faster than me? 2014 to 20, definitely while you were peaking. 2020, I didn't have legs. So, yeah, so it definitely be... 20, 20, you might have to... I'd say, up until... Admin. I'd say 2015 up until, like, six months ago.

Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know. That's just kind of how I'm feeling about it. Marcel, you never thought about stepping away from the gaming shit? How long have you been doing this for? Fucking 14 years now? And what about before you started doing this shit?

Were you just doing this shit? I mean, I was never a clown. Professional clown. I was a balloon artist. Oh. Did you wear the, you didn't wear the costume? No, I just wore like fucking jeans and a button up.

Big red nose. No, not red nose. And then, I mean, I did a bunch of fucking shit. I was a fiber optic technician. I installed fiber optics. You're just always a gamer at heart? Yeah, just get off work. You can tell when someone's truly,

and that was, you know, what, 15 years ago, you said? Yeah. You can always tell when someone's truly, would you say you truly, like, still have that passion? I mean, you're sitting there with the, right when you join the call, I don't even know if he looked up, he clicked join, and then it's right here.

I would say so, but I feel like in the last, like, five or so years, like we haven't, we haven't, like, revolutionized. Like, we haven't moved up, like, the latter of video games. And I feel like you've played one, you've played them all. So it's very hard for me to like get attached to a game right now. I mean, other than this, it's addicting. But yeah, I mean, I would say nowadays I probably play more video games when I'm not recording than I, can I do? I think for like for you guys, it seems like a lot of you guys is like income directly relates to what game is out.

Whereas like on our side of things, it's we've been. the same it does it's been called duty and halo for the past 20 years and you know we we don't really go up or down based off of that but oh I'm down I mean yeah but it's not because of the game Halo's down I'm down

okay well you had I was down then Halo went down now I'm does Halo need a VR does Halo need to be R yeah I think it has to be done right though but then sometimes I look at it and it's almost like like big team battle and Halo Infinite And I think it would either be like 12 v12 or maybe even 16 verse 16. And that's almost like BR enough. And like people, it never got popular.

But it was like a really cool concept of having like the war dogs and snipers and banshees and ghosts and all the vehicles and a big map. So it's like it almost seemed like a pre-BR was kind of set. But like that never even got attention like I thought it would. Like I thought it would. Like, I thought Halo Infinite's big team battle was actually pretty fucking good. But, um, I don't know. I, I, I definitely think they, they need.

I think Halo needs a BR in which would catch the attention of, Halo needs a BR to catch the attention of fucking, get peanut on the game, Tim, all those motherfuckers. Yeah. Yeah, they need to, like, Halo needs to figure out something to get those guys on the game. Like, when Halo, Infinite came out, they were playing, those guys were playing the game, but

they all played mouse and key and mouse and key was horrible for Halo in the beginning until they finally fixed it years later, so I do think there, a BR I think is our last hope. I think people are kind of done with the

I mean, it's even in Cod now. Yeah, I was saying, no one's really playing. I haven't played Cod. I haven't even downloaded the game. Six months. First Cod, I think first cod since definitely joining optic that i haven't downloaded the call of duty yeah yeah it's it's pretty bad like i i had like a a sponsored stream that we were doing and it was like me zen teep and symphony and like i was the i was the you know fourth of that squad and you know teep is

he's been grinding war zone so he's level 9000 symphony's level like 400 zin plays every day he's level 800. I was level two. Yeah. Level two. I don't even remember how I got to level two. I don't remember downloading the game. But I was just like, oh, this is bad. Like it's definitely the first time in my life. Doesn't the new

the new stuff come out like three days? Four days? The new, oh, the new war zone. Yeah, you're going back to blackout. Yeah, new Avalon. New Avalon trailer dropped or and I liked Blackout. I played a lot of Blackout. Okay, okay, listen. I love

I loved Blackout when it first came out. And my biggest gripe was the armor system. Because if you got Tier 3, you didn't want to get into gunfights. True. You wanted to win. And I was very, very vocal about it. And Von der Har replied to me and said, there's nothing wrong with the armor system. So I never played it again.

Because he fixed it like three weeks later. And I was like, fuck you. Exactly what I said was wrong. You figured it out finally. Yeah. Vonderhar was that way, though. I remember one. So passionate about nothing.

Like, shut up. very, very passionate, very, passionate guy. But I remember he replied to Seth one time, too, because Seth was like, Seth said, Seth had like a gripe about ranked play. And then Vaughn, like, replied to him. It was like, well, basically, basically telling him to stop complaining. And Seth was like, well, this is what's wrong.

I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. And then it got fixed later on. But that's why Vaughn used to follow 400 people on Twitter. And then he would unfollow everyone. And then he would follow everyone back and unfollow everyone again because I think he just like he had like a hard time being like civil about it but i liked blackout but what what we saw in avalon you know based on what the little bit that i saw it looks like war zone

like it just looks exactly like war zone but now you have wing suits and you have no loadouts yeah wing suits no loadouts which i think might play better i didn't really love the loadouts if i'm being honest but i don't know i i i think so the only shit you can get is what you pick up. Yeah. The problem with loadouts, I find today is if you're not putting the time in, you're just at a disadvantage. Yeah.

And that just really pushes away the casual, casual player. Yeah. I wouldn't even want to like start the grind. Yeah. Right. I would hop into a match and it's like, all right, hopefully I kill someone and they have something and then it'll be fun. It is just, like, the unlock system is just so convoluted.

It's like in order to get this silencer, you've got to, you got a level of up this gun but this gun isn't good so like good luck and then yeah it's just it's just so so weird yeah it it seems like it was like an idea on top of an idea on top of an idea and now just you just have this like stack of like complex ideas that's been going on for like 50 like 10 years at this point they just trip it back and just be it's head shots you get this yeah right and there's a bunch shit going on about or going around right now on uh at least on my algorithms on uh social media talking about like the old school cods, the debate of whether the old school

call the duties like, like cod four through ghosts, if those were actually better games or if it's nostalgia. Yeah. Yeah. I think the gaming experience was better, regardless of if the game was better or not. I think there was a more sense of like community. People were talking in game chat.

So like you had interactions that like offset how simple the game. games were. Your dopamine wasn't fried yet. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you're not scrolling through TikTok where it's like you need something like every 35 seconds.

It's like, you could sit in this room for five minutes and just talk shit. Yeah. And just wait for the game. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think the fact that we used to sit in lobbies,

like it seems like such a pointless part of it now. But nowadays it seems like every game you, you get out of the lobby and you're back into another game. Yeah. like before you can even think about getting off. Like you're just like on this constant loop of like TikTok brain. No matter what you're doing. It used to actually be a thing to where like you're waiting for a match,

especially if you were like higher ranked or some shit. And then you get a match and you're like, we got a match. We got a match. And it was like, oh, the fucking. Yeah. Like you were searched for like two to three minutes. Yeah. Yeah.

And there'd be like three guys in lobby that you had no idea who they were and you're just talking shit back and forth or just talk about anything. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Throw them in. Oh, you're losing 500 to zero, by the way. Yeah. Throwing you in mid game.

You're losing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's already kill streaks in the air. It's so dumb. Yeah, you can hear that. I feel like, I feel like nowadays you can just feel the algorithmic, like, you're being manipulated. Like, yeah, yeah, algorithmic manipulation of every single piece of, you know, of every, like,

piece of media. And it's only like those little games that come out like I don't know if you can fill an algorithm in Polkopia Yeah, but like I couldn't feel it in Eldon Ring and that's why I loved that game. I couldn't feel it couldn't feel it in Expedition 33 and I loved that game And it's like I haven't played a multiplayer game where you don't like you don't open the game and the battle passes in your face and then you know that you have a bunch of different like a bunch of different like game types where you're like is this a real game type am I playing bots am I playing real people? is ranked? Is there a hidden rank system? Like, you just don't know what you're playing.

And the games where you just, the games back in the day, Halo and Halo and Kod and, you know, Counterstrike and all these games back in the day, like you just click play and you're just legit,

you're just having a true experience. Yeah. Against like everyone else in the world. You don't have to worry about bots or, or, you know, if there's little manipulations in the background of the code that's changing your experience.

Your biggest. where he was getting into a lobby with somebody that was just way better than you. Dead zones. What controller am I using? Sensitivities are like point. You go up by point something now. Like what's your sense? Three. What's yours? Four. What are you five? Damn. Like whoa, bro. You were three shot? Seven you were crazy. I was like, whoa. No, you're trolling. Yeah. There's no way you're on seven. I'm surprised you haven't tried. Have you ever tried World of Warcraft. I played I played wow a lot. I played wow in high school a lot from like 2005 to 2009.

I played wow a lot. Yeah, those were the years, man. Yeah. Those were the years to play wow, 2005 to 2000. I played on chondrious. I was on chondrius. I was a shaman. I loved it.

I had a good time. I did a video where I played like some of my friends' favorite games and Seth chose Warcraft. So I played Warcraft for four and a half hour. World of Warcraft? Yeah. Okay. Because there's like Warcraft 1, Warcraft 2, Warcraft 3. I think, I think, yeah, yeah, it was World of Warcraft.

And then I got to the, yeah, I played it. It was fun. I've never played a game like that. I've never played like a game where you have to use all the keyboard buttons. I've only been a WSAD, that guy. I've only been this guy forever. And this is what you have to like point and click, right? Yeah.

And then use the way. Do you guys ever play League of Legends though? I never did. I was a big League of Legends guy. in like 2000, I think I'd say like 2009 to 2012-ish, maybe like 2013-ish.

It was kind of like early. Like I might have been playing like season one. Yeah. But I was a big, I fucking love League of Legends. It was so fun. That was like, if I would say like top five, I'd be forgetting about it too. But like top five most fun I've had on games,

I would think Halo 2, Halo 3, I think League of Legends would have to be in there. Starcraft being there Nah, I did play StarCraft too a little bit I couldn't get in the StarCraft I feel like I missed it By the time I was ready to play Everybody had strats and I was just like

I don't even want to try It's funny I always I don't always tell people But you know obviously you know courage Yeah He was like a Halo fan And he found out I was playing Starcraft And he was like yeah let me play with you Like I'll carry you a little bit

And we played and he was carrying me So I was like yeah let's just play more And then we just put it became friends and then he would play with like some other Halo people and then he just started kind of like climbing the ranks of of the fucking now he's on top Jack Jack might be the greatest networker in the history of networking but like not even in like a like a like a

slimy way he's just like you're my friend now and then he's like oh you have friends these are my friends and he's just like he's so good at that same with Zinn. Just talking to him methods and Jack are the two best they're so good at it we went to we went to we went to Italy for a uventus like like deal we walked into the the training facility and zen knew the first guy and hex was like what like what how do you know people like how do you know people

like how do you know people everywhere and jack's the same way yeah we went to a scumps birthday and we walked in i mean this is dallas food place which i guess is zin's fucking thing yeah for scum's birthday we me and zen got there early but like walk in and the i think like a waste some shit walks up to zin and just like introduces himself like hey hey like how like he the guy knew zin and maybe i don't i don't think zen knew the guy but then like the manager comes over says what's up to zim i'm like who the fuck do you think you are manager's coming over waiters coming out he's that guy optic zinnies in here we got that you can go anywhere in seattle and i ask about marcel they all know them too same same time shit is no it's like no

It's like, it's like 50% 50% of the time if I leave the house and go somewhere I run into somebody. Oh, really? Yeah, it's, it's, it's few and far between though. Is it?

Wait, Marcel, because you're, because your face cam list for most of your career, I would assume, right? Yeah, 60%? Yeah. Do you get, do you think you get recognized less? Like, do people recognize you off your voice ever?

There has been a lot of internet, not a lot, several times where like I'll meet people that are like a little bit younger than me and they'll be like yo I used to watch these guys all the time and I'd be like yeah like who and then they'd be like do that's that's me but that has happened a few times yeah yeah but like not like maybe 10 times but a lot of the time like it's just the full like they look over their shoulder and they look at their phone and they look back at me like I see that happen a lot but yeah I guess yeah that makes sense what do you what do you currently what's been first what was your most fun uh time of your

career of making videos of streaming like like maybe what game what happened what what part of your journey have you enjoyed the most the early card like black ops two days those are i mean but then we could argue nostalgia those days were like that that's how i like that's when I met everybody that I play with today. And then after that, we moved to Gary's Mod. Gary's Mod was always a good time.

That's when everybody started actually making money off of YouTube. And then GTA, obviously, we blew up with that. That's where most people, like, watch us. And then it's hard to ignore Fortnite because Fortnite was such a crazy time for the gaming community.

That was the craziest. I had a blast playing Fortnite until I didn't. Um, I don't like every step was fun in its own way. But yeah, this is definitely the least amount of fun though. I was gonna let me answer my next question. What are you up to now? What's, uh, so I feel like for me is just like as soon as COVID hit, I just got, I was just like, I'm, I'm checking out for a while.

And then we just like, I feel like we haven't recovered game wise. Since then like, yeah, just a lot like friends slop. Like we haven't had. anything to stick around friend slop that's a second time this week i've heard that i've heard that friend slop that's what that's what the that's what the genre is it's just friend slop like our like rv there yet it's it's a type of game it's a four-player game it sometimes they're have proximity chat that you play twice and it costs you eight dollars friend slop yeah okay yeah i could see i roasted the first guy that said that but i'm not going to roast you that's fine you can do it

Because I'm just going to steal it and start. You're like, this game is just, this game is just friends slop. Yeah, it just feels like it does, dude, as you say that, it's funny. As you say that, I have my Twitter open. There's a game called, uh, off by one games is excited to announce our first title called Trash Day. And it's a raccoon, uh, pushing a grocery cart. And you can play as one of four raccoons. So, and it's, and it's coming out this year.

And it looks like a four player game where you have one objective and it's all goofy. But every game, every game is like that. Like, yeah, a new game pops up. It's four player. You play it for maybe, you might play it twice and then it goes away. Yeah. And another game, it's just over and over and over again. But I do regret missing the Among Us wave.

That was, I think, I think that would have been super fun. See, it's funny. people always mention among us and i feel like my anxiety just raises like i'm glad right now the wave yeah but you were also tweaked out of your mind during that time yeah but like just lying and shit bro i saw i might have told you this but i've i've seen some clips of like some people trying to lie and it's just so like it's just critt like one time royal two uh i don't know if you know marceau he's like maybe the greatest halo player of all time at this fucking point but but But he was playing among us and he was trying to like just make up a lie.

I wish I could remember the context. But it was just so funny how hard he choked and how embarrassed he felt after after like saying it. I was just like, bro, that would have been me, man. That would have been me. Bro, getting caught in a lie sucked, especially like when you're in a group, when you're in a group of people, you don't really know that well. Like if it was a group of, when it was a group of optic people, I was fine. Oh, I saw you playing with like Valkyray and shit.

Yeah, Marcel got me in those lobbies. It was like, dude, it was like myself, Marcel. Yeah, like you would find yourself and you'd be like, how the fuck did it? Like, yeah, I remember it was like me, Valkyray, corpse husband, like Nikita Dragon. And I'm just like, how do the fuck did I get here? Yes. Pokey mains in there. I'm like, what, like, what is going on?

Am I allowed to curse? Yeah, XQC's in there and Nogla's in there. They're going back and forth. Ninjas, I'm just like, what's going on? She starts lying saying it was you. You're like, I was like. I was just like it's what? Yeah.

The Xcc killed me in, uh, in, in the kitchen one time. And I was like, I don't think this game's for me. Like at that point, I was like,

I don't know. Like I wasn't, I didn't know what to do. So I was just kind of like running around like this. XQC pops out of a vent and then goes back in. And I was like, all right, I think,

I don't think I'm like prepared enough for this, for this game. But I do miss. I wish I had like really like hit that game because that, that shit did look a lot like a lot of fun. I played it a few times. I had like one time where I killed. I,

I thought I was in the clear and I killed Lupo. I'll never forget. I killed Lupo and then a mountain of people come down the hallway. And they all saw me. And I was in. Dude, I was so embarrassed. I didn't even say anything.

Like the worst part is just, is when you do something and like somebody just read you like a book and says everything exactly the way. And like, I can't lie. You listen to literally every single thing. Like, You're just like, dude, what are you talking about? Just vote me out, just vote me out, bro.

And then you would play with somebody that took it way too serious. They were like, no, he spent like three and a half seconds on this one task, and I know it only takes one, you only have to press one button, so why was he there? And then you're like, oh, no, my, I knocked water over on my desk. Dude, I can't take a drink. No, like, there was this clip, uh, it's on like Noglose TikTok or YouTube shorts, where he was just like, all right, the body's down in here. This is a triple vent.

it came from here to here. I'm over here with this person, so it has to be Marcel. And I'm like, yeah. It was. How the fuck? How did you know that I vintage got out,

went to another, like, what? I was like, yeah, you're right. Yeah, it was me,

but that's, what the fuck? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's just like, the point of that game is to, is to have fun, not to like,

actually win and like, yeah, you're not playing ranked fucking real life. Like, like, R.R. Relax. Alexis and I last night

we were watching uh we were watching casso play ranked fall guys there's a ranked system on fall guys that might be fun the fall guys wave was crazy too yeah that like week and a half that week where they had

they had everybody by the balls that shit was crazy who was it I was thinking it was Tim that hadn't won Tim had it won and then Lupo was the chosen one he had won the most stars and like that week or most he had the most crowns that game was fun

Yeah, that was a good time. Yeah, that game was fine. And that one wasn't friend slop. No. That was like a real game. The problem with fall guys, my opinion, is they took too long to update and add anything. Yeah. Yeah.

They took way too long. Well, also, it's one of those games where it's like, you can't play that game. That can't be your game. No. Like for the general public. No, that is like you play your main game and then you switch over or you can. Yeah, right. Exactly.

Switch over. If I met somebody who was like, yeah, I've been playing Fall Guys for like six years. Yeah. I'm like, what? Like, is there anybody streaming fall guys? That's for sure. Like someone, someone started a YouTube channel when Fall Guys came out. They popped off.

They stream it. Probably made a mill. There's someone out there. Yeah. So the top Fall Guys is 69 viewers right now. Yeah. Yeah. Pocopia has 33,000.

Pocopia. Nick, we grind in Pocopia tonight? You can make, you can make a group island. Can you play on PC? No. No. It's you made a group out and it's it's cloud save so you don't have to like beyond when he's on. Oh really?

Yeah. Good. I haven't touched. I haven't touched marathon. I had a brand deal, but outside of that, I haven't touched it either. Have you guys played that at all? I haven't played it, but it looks, I mean, I haven't played really. See, like Twitter makes me not even want to.

Because anything that ever comes out. I hardly even, I'll scroll sometimes, but like I'll get on all people do or just shit on anything. Like the dude that just scored 80. three points in the NBA game last night. Yeah. Just he's getting shit talked. Just getting verbaled. It's just like no one.

Oh, it was all free throws. It's like. It's points and points. Then stop fucking fouling him. I feel like for us, it was just like if you didn't like relate to something or if you didn't care about something, you just didn't engage with it. But I feel like everybody just has to engage with everything. And it's so dumb.

Like I have to add something to this conversation. No, you don't. Just shut up. Right. It's like, look. It seems like every. form of media that comes out, whether it's a movie or an album or a video game, it's the bar is already set so low that people want to trash it. People want to be like, oh, this is terrible.

And then you have to like break through that like mold. And it seems like Marathon's kind of doing that. Like people, I think Marathon looks like a really good game. I've never played it. But I don't like third party. I don't like third person games. Really like art graders. I thought it was a good game. just not a game for me, but I can understand why people would like it. But if you put Arc Raiders next to Marathon showed me the gameplay of both, I would choose Marathon 10 out of 10 times to play. It just looks better to me. But.

Yeah. Same. Every time I watch Arc Raiders, I'm just not, uh, even the Tarkoff, just extraction games. I don't think I've ever played anything like that. I really don't even know the point. Tarkov is fun Tarkov is the only fun one to me. Tarkov is like,

let's be honest. Tarkov is not fun. The people that play Tarkov got their first hit of crack and they can't put it down. I can see that. The fun part of Tarkov is going and like finding something that is so valuable

that now you have to get out. Now you have to extract. And your, your heart's pumping. Maybe your leg is broken. you're limping out and and you're like you can feel like you're in a in a battle but nobody else that has extraction modes are able to replicate that because they don't want that like slow pace game so you have like like there's nothing there was nothing i played i played arc raiders for i don't know

like 20 hours and there was never like that piece of loot that i was like oh i got to get out now there wasn't like yeah you'd be like oh i've got 5 000 i want to get out but You wouldn't like, you wouldn't be like, all right, I'm going to go take a walk after you died. Like, yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. You were never like pissed when you died. You're like, yeah. Well, also with Arc Raiders, I think they wanted to make it more casual.

Like, it was so easy to go in with the free kit and then come out with the best loadout possible. It was so easy to do that. Yeah, yeah. It removes a lot of that, like, tension with the game. And it does seem, I think, I heard Blake say it earlier. It seemed like everything in that. game is a bunch of PVC pipe like duct tape together all the guns they're like gross they're like they're like they're like shit that I mean I know it's like an apocalyptic like warfare type thing

so you're not going to have an AK 47 but but it seems like marathon and arc are totally different because arc is like or marathon is like crazy futuristic guns that are like polished and look nice but and then Arc Raiders is like bullshit like mad max like Blake is funny though because Blake is very cosmet like he wants his gun to look the absolute cleanest most beautiful sick gun in the world that is true yeah he's he he definitely has um some mental problems but uh last last thing we should talk about before before we get off here is is it everyone in your friend group that is just kind of laying low until like our how how often do you guys inter talk about uh gta six

Like how often do you guys speak about it? Not as often as you would think. We talked about like maybe a couple of days ago about like when we actually get a release date because you know there's a rumor that it might not launch with online mode or just be story mode like how they did with GTA5 of like us getting like a team house for that week or whatever like flying out everybody.

That sounds like a nice idea to steal. But like but like Doing it in Miami because that's where GTA is going to be. And like another idea. Getting a nice house, having everybody like, you know, their girlfriends and wives and stuff come out. And we ship everybody's car there. Yeah, I think you need to is Miami. That's true.

You could just get a, you can just rent a. Yeah. A Lamborghini. I mean, as far as like laying low, I think for us, there's just so much money in these spamming, these shitty ass React videos that we're all just kind of like doing that. And then playing the friend slop. So we don't like really discuss, discuss it as much as. we're like, ooh.

That's a good, that was also like my follow questions, like if it doesn't release with online, like what are you going to, what are you guys going to do? But that might be, yeah,

that might be the play. Because it's like, I don't think anybody's going to care to watch five story mode videos, but if we, if we all take turns playing one story, we like stream it or whatever. Yeah.

We have ideas. We have a lot of ideas. None of them ever get executed, but. Yeah. Yeah. I was, it is going to be interesting to see,

Like, I think this, I don't know if there will be another game in my lifetime that has the amount of, uh, like, hype that this one does. I think the world might shut down for like a week. Yeah. And I, I don't know if it, I don't know if it's going to meet the expect. If it means, it's going to get fucking verbally. It can't. Yeah. But it's going to destroy it is.

It can't. If it's even remotely the similar to their GTA five, people are going to be like, everyone was so hype for. just another GTA 5. That's all it is. There's just there's too many variables in order to like make everybody happy. Because it's like the people that don't have top of the line equipment, they're going to complain about like

loading and the graphics. And then you've got people that are just like GTA 5 enthusiasts. We lost these feature and it's just going to be there's going to be so much of that. It's going to be yeah. It's going to be and like even like the crypto bros I remember like two years ago people were like no GTA 6 is going to have its own

economy where you can make you people People are going to have entire careers based off of GTA 6. Like you're going to run full businesses inside of this game. And it's like, I hope it does. Maybe I'm not smart enough, but how, how was a single player game going to come out? And then now all the crypto bros can drop their jobs and work out of GTA six. I don't figure out some kind of NFT GTA shit to start scamming again. And yeah, shark, every than the shark card scams like back in the day, it's just like,

people were making. Making some money. Yeah. Yeah, I've heard money in I've heard money in CS I've heard money in in GTA 5 I've heard money in Minecraft I was thinking about like like actually scamming people like is it is it bad to scam people if like They're a bad person like if you target no pieces of shit like if I if I go after like old people that are racist and I scam them No that's completely that's fine I think you would that's that's that's kind of like just another way of being who is the who's the guy right that's just another Robinhood that's just modern day right like I'm not giving the money back to the point it's all for me that's fine oh that's true now that i think that's still

fine okay cool because like there's some 401 case i could easily hit yeah yeah i think we should hit them together like all you guys make we should like fake websites it's so easy yeah we'll talk and instead of yeah instead of scamming like old like old ladies that scam the crypto don't know any better like you scam people that actually scam other people yeah scam the scammers say we have some insane scam and if the scammers are down to join us, but then we just scam them. Oh, I like where your head's at. Scam Square.

Can't wait for it. Yeah. Can't wait for the new GTA. Yeah. I like that. Yeah, sell a course about scamming. Yeah. That is going to be,

that might be my last. Hurrah. When's it supposed to come out? No, I do. I mean, this fall. You got option. This fall.

GTA. Yeah. Just wait. Shit. Apparently it's going to come out the same time as Monterofer 4, which is why it is why the call of duty scene is in shambles. It's fucking annoying because

it was supposed to come out in like October. So I move my wedding date forward. Right? And then they were like, it's going to come out in June or in like July. So then I move my honeymoon forward. So I'm like, bro, like like, like. So you're

that's what I'm saying. Like you're all in on. Because we do the same thing whenever a new cod comes out, but a GTA comes out once every decade. Yeah. So. yeah i mean that's it's definitely i think i think this and i'm also curious about the next sky rim as well the next like elder scrolls because that shit is going to have a lot of hype is that a marathon is that a marathon game i think no no no like gta and elder schools those games are going to take like because those aren't like boss driven games those are yeah like story games so how like

gta i thought elder scrolls was like a bossy kind of So the main story of GTA 5 was 30 to 32 hours. If you did everything, it was like 50 to 80. That's actually a lot less than I thought it was. But it also did come out 10 years ago. Yeah, it's true. On the Xbox 360. On the Xbox 360.

It might be insane. So, and how long is The Witcher 3? Which are 3? Which are 3. 90 to 96. In real time. Yeah. So if you 100% it, it's, it's around like a hundred,

70 to 300 hours. Yeah. If you 100% it. So based in that game came out, what, like eight years ago at this point? Something like that. So if that's the standard we're going through, because I think Which or Three is kind of like the standard nowadays. Like if GTA is on that standard, bro, it might take three, it might take 300, 400 hours to 100% that game. I do think that there is going to be a very large market for like the GTA6 servers, like having your own like, like how AMP and them have.

their own server and like stuff like that yeah there's gonna be a huge market with that kind of economy of yes i think i agree yeah that i think that's where crypto rose could make money yeah i agree with that penfold for sure yeah but we'll see we'll definitely see yeah we got to where uh clutch up with that yeah we got to we got to we got to really think of some stuff well let me know because start stealing ideas i'll get in i'll get in okay all right i like that i like that all right i appreciate you marcel thanks for coming on the flycats man of course we needed you you saved you us. Just knows.

You saved us. You saved us so we can scam others. Yes, let's do it. I'm down. All right, guys, appreciate you guys watching this episode of the Flycast and Matt Craig. Play the outro music, man. Peace.