The Flycast - FaZe House Secrets You Didn’t Know 😂 | The Flycast Ep. 92

Episode Date: October 10, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:14 Here, Pami, Pamy, Pammie. Today's episode of the flycast is brought to you by Corderoy's. Today we have a special guest. I don't even know if he's aware that the cameras are rolling and it's his time to join us here and sit down. But Pommage is joining us today. Yes. What's on, man? You look a little sleepy.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Got your coffee. I won't expose the time. But you made it here, man. What about yesterday? You're going to tell me about yesterday? Oh. Yesterday I did bail in the podcast. I mean, I have a reason why.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Because I was supposed to do something this morning. So I was just going to come in this morning and then do the podcast. But I'll just, well, I've said it before. But on, like, on content days, I take anxiety medication. So I didn't want to take it yesterday. and then also take it today for this morning for another thing I was going to do. So I wanted to save both things for the same day
Starting point is 00:01:28 to take my anxiety medication. Mental health, Pam, mental health. I grew up around that. So speaking of mental health, first off, welcome to the fly cast. Sorry, Hitch. Didn't care enough to join. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I'm used to it. Speaking of mental, why you seem like you're in a bad mood right now? Because I am. Wow. I just am, dude. Why? Y'all are used to me in a certain way,
Starting point is 00:01:54 so it's like, I'm just, I can't have, I can't be in a bad mood. Okay. That's fair. And I actually, I actually like this. Well, I was going to say, well, I'm not, maybe not going to get the answer here that I wanted.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Speaking of mental health, how are you doing these days? Way better than I was. Yeah. It was bad before. has the well we get into what you were in before but
Starting point is 00:02:25 what about recently has like made you happier I guess like what change in your life that was needed that were you're like okay this is better being in control
Starting point is 00:02:42 of change being in control of change has really done that just being able to you know just sitting around waiting for other people to do or waiting for that opportunity for whatever that is
Starting point is 00:02:58 just being kind of fed up with that not basically not waiting for other people to you know change my life you know kind of just because I can feel a little bit hopeless if eventually just doesn't happen which is kind of where you feel like you were in oh there's just
Starting point is 00:03:15 you can't see the you can't see you know the the elite four you can't see like the can't see the end game like you can't see that far like it was getting to that point
Starting point is 00:03:29 I was telling Hector this like when I was just stuck in Canada at my office and I really it got to a point where I was literally like man I don't know where I want to live I don't know where I can live I don't know where like what I want to do
Starting point is 00:03:44 do I see myself doing this still do I did I let people down did I let myself down did I try hard enough it got to that point and like that was feeling pretty
Starting point is 00:04:01 pretty helpless yeah I mean I can I can definitely see that I would say like us over here we're kind of feeling that as well but I mean I feel like we and I'm talking like me
Starting point is 00:04:15 bows, pitch, like even like Flame Sword now he's doing his own thing but like it got to a point where we are like like what are we like what are we fucking doing like really? Yeah it was like we don't I don't know we're in this content
Starting point is 00:04:31 world but we're not really there's no more like team house or anything and it's just like what the what the fuck are we going to do is this something we want to do but I think like we had each other to like fall back on um and sort of like figure it out and be like all right let's fucking like and then it got to a point where i think in like 2021 we're like all right let's look
Starting point is 00:04:55 like we have optic back now let's like step the shit up and we all started like i guess sort of like trying again but i think for a while we we had like each other's backs and we had those talks but i mean for you is probably you were just over there by yourself in canada for a little bit on phase and it was just like in your office all day every day i mean i was in the tronel phaise house for a little bit who was in that house it was like uh for a bit it was me uh jail mock nicon necon necon eventually just i could tell necon didn't even want to be there he had a room but he didn't want to be there jail mock he was a fortnight pro uh we did some cool stuff with the maple leaves there but then he eventually kind of just stopped living there
Starting point is 00:05:43 Um, agony. The agony twins were there. I like that. Uh, and replays who's... God damn. And that house, it just kind of like, I'm not, I'm not ever gonna... People have always tried to, like, compare houses.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Like, people have always been like, yo, which house did you like better or whatever? I'm not doing that. Like, that's just corny. I mean, it's obvious. I mean, it's obvious, but it's also just kind of corny. I enjoyed my time at both houses. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And, you know, I think replays was a guy. Replays was a guy that I enjoyed being around, especially because he made me feel like I had to check my own grind sometimes. Because that dude did not leave his room ever for two months straight. And he's still going at it. Every single day uploading content and all that. And he was a trick-shodder. He was a Call-Duty trick-shotter. And then he was doing the Fortnite thing.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And he's nasty at Fortnite. And now, dude, like him and my buddy Thieves, they're like a duo. You know what I mean? Yeah. I saw Thieves is killing it out. Like thieves used to like come into my stream. Be like, yo, maniag. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:06:48 I'm like, kind of know of you, but it's like enough to where like I'm going to acknowledge you. And like I see you like on the come up. Oh yeah. No, he's like now he's fucking. He's family friendly now and everything too.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Really? The whole family friendly thing gone well for him. Like he was a part of my like little squad like the grind squad back then. Like when I was in the Opticast, he was part of that. And like we were always just like playing games together and shit like that and kind of just. shit happen drama behind the scenes whatever and then everyone kind of just went their own ways did their own thing and then now he's doing i'm glad he found his own wave and i'm glad he found
Starting point is 00:07:22 his own way to do his own thing in fortnight too he was like third most watch streamers i saw like ninja under him and shit really i was like what the fuck that's kind of wild yeah i kind of wish i would uh you didn't you never gotten to fortnight that much did you i kind of wish i'd like dude it's just I was so such a crackhead that like I was so anti-social like I didn't even really want to play with people. I just wanted to fucking grind whether it was a little bit. I would play like 16 hours on stream and then I'd be like yeah, I'm going to bed. But then I would just play like 16 more hours and I was just like such a crackhead. Like I just did not.
Starting point is 00:08:01 When I was like getting decent viewers, I'd have like 1,500 viewers sometimes. Like I would sign on. It's just like six to 800 viewers. And it's just it was. a fun time but like once I turned that stream off I was fucking miserable and just like depressed
Starting point is 00:08:15 You ever check how many hours you had on that game? I know in season four I was like top I don't understand how anyone had more games played to me but I know I was top two games played in like season four
Starting point is 00:08:30 and that was Fortnite's most popular time peak Fortnite that's crazy like season three season four I had the most games played dude that was like because it was not like I would sleep it'd be like play for 24
Starting point is 00:08:43 48 hours sleep for 8 to 16 maybe then get back going and do the same thing and I'm just cueing cueing cueing die and just run it back
Starting point is 00:08:53 just run it back and on fucking stop man I was but I am kind of pissed like I just never took advantage of so many situations or so many opportunities in like my career
Starting point is 00:09:03 because I was just like some I was just out of my mind but you never so inside your head man you never really like grinded Fortnite like that though right? I disagree. I looked at my Fortnite time and I had like
Starting point is 00:09:15 96 days played. When was that? Or like what? Fortnite like when I was living like where Hitch lives now. Hitch has Mouselot really? Yeah like just like where Hitch is going to put his setup now after the HECS quarters is gone. That's where my setup was. Yeah I guess that's where I was fucking grinding Fortnite too. But like that was like we're both just grinding it silently
Starting point is 00:09:33 just fucking grinding silently. Were you playing controller or mouse and key? I was playing mouse and keyboard. I just wanted to learn something new. because I had been playing control the whole time and honestly my hands were starting to kind of just hurt a little bit more and more but I was playing messing keyboard that whole time and I was catching a groove
Starting point is 00:09:48 I was like catching a groove with the building and all that I don't think I would be too terrible if I just play the no build I see the no build The building just got crazy Oh the no build once creative came out and people could practice the building It's just like dude this is fucking stupid
Starting point is 00:10:04 I'm not gonna sit here and say they're glorified 1B1s But like it is kind of a hyperbolic the whole creative thing which is like people who have gotten like insanely nasty at it it's I didn't even think it'd be possible to a point where I don't even know like what like
Starting point is 00:10:20 I can't see what's going on no I don't even know like what crazy shit they're doing yeah like they're like yo did you see that come just like all right you built a shit ton of times and you one tapped them in the head that's crazy but then they're like making montages out of it I'm just like I like to mess with them sometimes I'm just like nice one kill montage dude like nasty one kill montage
Starting point is 00:10:38 Sinking it up in the shit. Yeah, like no quad, no nothing. Like, it is crazy what they've done to that game. So you are doing better now. Have you enjoyed so far so good with the move? The drive was dog shit. The drive was dog shit. But I'm glad I did it.
Starting point is 00:10:57 When I moved out, I actually had my mom fly all the way over here. And I Ubered her to my place. And we just moved as much stuff as we possibly could. could into my car. Why did you choose Frisco and not? Or sorry, you can finish what you're trying. No, I mean, it was just, to me it was just easier because I had a, I wanted a roommate. I asked Bose if he wanted to move in, but then he was like, nah.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I was like, man, we can get like a nasty spot though and save like a lot of money. Yeah, you can't. He's like, Mark does his own thing. I respect it. But my buddy that I, I live with a guy called Mind of Reggie or Reggie does stuff with like OTF and all that. It's kind of funny. Like kind of like being associated.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Like, long, like with somebody from, you kind of works behind the scenes with OTF, just kind of like, from living in Chicago and just like being introduced. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like still in the same realm. Like a small fucking world. Little coincidences like that. And now you live with the motherfucker. That like works with him.
Starting point is 00:11:54 You know, like when A says like the synchronicities and all that shit. Like that's real. Like that's very real and that's part of it. I genuinely believe that. But so I decided to move in with him. He's a video editor. And I'm, after all these years of kind of just being by my. myself in my office like I really really just wanted to be it was one he was open to it we had
Starting point is 00:12:14 already talked about it two we'd save money on you know rent and everything three being around someone like that is good energy for me like being around somebody who edits all a time and you know who can creatively think differently and he's really good at the short form shit and that's what the big difference between now and the scuff house is the short form shit yeah like that then exists back then not at all on vine it was like all vine. But, yeah, dude,
Starting point is 00:12:45 like, I think, and now you're here. And now, and now I'm here. And, you know, one month,
Starting point is 00:12:52 sober from weed. Nice. I kind of, I went, I went, I went, kind of crazy. Uh, well,
Starting point is 00:12:57 your mom fucking, like, grows this shit, don't she? Yes. Well, she's like, she has a cafe
Starting point is 00:13:02 slash dispensary on a certain part of land, and so she's allowed to, you know, maneuver her way through the industry of such? Is she, like, an advocate for it? Like does it help her?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Or you don't have to answer that. Yeah, I'd say so, yeah. And I, and I've thoroughly trust my mom too, especially because like, you know, she's, dude, she's done everything. Like, she's done, she's been a social, she's been a mental health worker for 20 years. So I grew up around that all my life, like to always kind of keep myself in check and always like take care of myself. Being a mental health worker must be mentally healthily. you gotta fucking work on yourself
Starting point is 00:13:42 while doing a job like that yes she had she's had moments where you know she's lost their shit as someone who's helping other people someone like they need to recognize
Starting point is 00:13:52 like all the stuff that they have to listen to as well and to look after them herself but she's she's been that she's she's been a police officer damn she's dude she's done it all she's been like
Starting point is 00:14:04 a part time kind of like like teacher on the side like for after school, she's done it all. And now she has her own cafe slash dispensary. Does she like it? She loves it. Her own little life, a little cafe. It's a peeve.
Starting point is 00:14:19 She crushes it, man. She's gotten awards for her subs. Like, for the best in the area, like in her first year. And then COVID happened. After she was crushing it for two years, and we had to shut it down because, you know, there was just crazy, like, health things that you have to look forward, look about. Um, okay, the
Starting point is 00:14:36 common cold. Yeah, the common cold. Yeah, the common cold. Like you had to be super OD about the, about the masks and the cleaning. That's fucking insane. Yeah. The government had us covering our mouths. I mean, this is when the comment section will ignore the whole podcast and only talk about like COVID and shit. But it's like they had us covering our mouths for practically like the common fucking cold. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And it was just like it was the, it's like flu season. People get sick. People fucking die. Also, I'm not an expert. So let me stop talking about it. But COVID was crazy. COVID was crazy. And having to shut shit down is fucking sucks.
Starting point is 00:15:12 The whole shutdown, man. Like, I was having to wear a mask, like in the drive-through. Like, tiny little things like that, man. Like, I'm not, we're not going to talk about like, like, the whole situation of it. It already happened. And the fact that we lived a certain way, like, for how many years, three or four years? Crazy. So when I was in that office, like, I was like, okay, this is justified.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I'm going to just... Game. gaming was somehow at its peak again when everyone was forced to say Oh, well, yeah Peak COVID, you know what I mean? Like gaming just went crazier because of this So what was your game of choice?
Starting point is 00:15:50 It's just war zone man Warzone Worson crazy amount of hours Insane amount of hours man Like what else was I supposed to do Like I didn't have like I didn't even like I wasn't even like talking to my friends back home To be honest with you like very rarely
Starting point is 00:16:03 Because they were like they were going through COVID Like without the streaming stuff Like I'm the only streaming stuff like I'm the only streamer like that in my town. I'm the only... For me, COVID was like, I was like, fuck yeah. I was like, I was cooped up in my apartment with hell of fucking Adderall and I was just
Starting point is 00:16:17 playing Halo 3. It just fucking grinding. Like there was a time I downloaded you can play Pokemon it was like Pokemon Red. You could just like download it and play it online. And it's just like I forget what it was called.
Starting point is 00:16:33 But like I was playing that shit. I was playing Halo 3. Just non-stop. What else were you supposed to do, man? I didn't have anything to do. And I was on the mutineers at the time. It's just like their call off duty as their substitute player. Which is just like, honestly, people say like, why the fuck would Maniac be a substitute player?
Starting point is 00:16:55 But it's like, why are any of them a fucking substitute player? They're never going to use a substitute player. And the players, they even said to me, they were like, no one's going to use a substitute player because the people they would like say someone breaks their hand and they actually do have to get someone they are allowed to pick up a top challengers player which are better than these substitutes
Starting point is 00:17:17 that are just willing to sit there can I tell you something? What? So you're on Florida Mutant Years for how long? Uh, joint you were there for like at least a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Did you have your own sticker? What do you mean? Because they had Florida Mutant Neers had their own cod stickers and shit like that and like signatures. I guess not. Like did I have? No,
Starting point is 00:17:38 I guess you didn't. No. Man, so that's, dude, that's so funny to say that. So that was like, I remember,
Starting point is 00:17:44 I remember just like, it was like when franchising started, like just first started getting out and then I saw, um, like, Toronto Ultra, like tweet out like this was when I was like still in phase and all that. Like heck,
Starting point is 00:17:56 I don't even think Hector even had optic back. But like, I saw Toronto Alter tweet out like accepting resumes for whatever, whatever. And I'm just like, Like, just kind of bored. So I'm like, what does my resume look like? So I type up my resume.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I'm like, all right, this is kind of, this is kind of hard. Like, I don't have like any diplomas, anything that looks fancy like that. What if I just like get down to it and list off everything I've done in gaming? So I just type it all down, you know, like 3 million subscribers, 2,700 videos, know how to time manage. Probably like, motherfucker, you've got to DM this. They, like, the teams I've been a part of from like the long stretches and all that. how I got into it, like just a resume of gaming, right? And I remember, it started because I was at the bar, just like, you know how bored I got
Starting point is 00:18:43 to be to just be at the bar by myself at lunchtime drinking. Like, dude. So like, I was like, been there. I know that. Oh, yeah. I've seen the stories. You get there sometimes. You know, what are you supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:18:54 But, um, so I just like, like, type of this resume after a few, a few brewski's. And then I totally forget about it. And then my agent hits me up like a few weeks later. He's like, you know, did you like? like, uh, apply for like some sort of job position like, like, Toronto Ultra. I'm like, nah, what do you mean? He's like, I have Toronto Ultra asking and they're like ready to let you be the head coach. I'm like, really? Yeah, like they're ready to just. So imagine this. Imagine I'm just head coach of Zinni. That's funny. And like I know and I've heard stories about like the head coach
Starting point is 00:19:31 shit like in this franchising stuff like it's like they treat it as very much like basketball like how the head coach gets like to be like yeah we should pick him up we should bench him like they have insane amount of power that's just what I've heard I don't think so I don't think it's like that
Starting point is 00:19:47 either I've just heard some shit so I think that coaches are just like just glad to be here you think so yeah I think so I would have just been glad to be there too Rambo was almost like that not I don't think Rambo was like that but I think Rambo was like that but I think Rambo was very much involved with like they get done with a scrim and rambo's like what the fuck
Starting point is 00:20:07 like why we keep making these same mistakes like why the fuck are we and he's like kind of on their shit like that i heard dashy's saying like he would always bring up hindsight stuff where it's like yeah of course we should have done it now like looking back after we fucking like lost him so i think rambo was kind of more involved and maybe how a coach should be
Starting point is 00:20:28 but apparently the cod you know the optic boosy players they don't want to hear nothing from a in their heads are like we're the players you tell us where they go off small on and shut up that's assume that's what I'm assuming they're fucking saying about a coach I'm not
Starting point is 00:20:45 saying that's what fucking happened yeah I don't know what happened but to me the optic players are probably a little bougie and even for me when I was a when I was a halo pro player my I didn't want my coach to say shit like just get the time time the power ups like it's hard to
Starting point is 00:20:59 I would say say it's just like hard to understand the game and what's happening in the flow of the game unless you're in the game playing like working with your teammates like if you're sitting there watching it's just like you're not necessarily in the same flow as the players and but i think that's changing a little bit i think i bet lunchbox is an amazing coach for our optic halo team i bet evelmite's an amazing coach for ssg there is definitely stuff coaches can bring to the table top teams right SSG and phase and phases coach is good like I think it's you you got to find the balance with your team coaching is definitely it's definitely not useless but you got that there's definitely a balance in like a chemistry that must be there with the team so you were going to be the Toronto Ultra coach yeah I would have had to leave phase then though oh really yeah so this was 2020 whenever franchising started like yeah I guess around 19. Probably, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah, whenever Zinney was on it. But they were like, you gotta leave phase and they were ready to have me. I mean, didn't you fucking figure that anyway? Huh? You were just sitting there. You filled it out just like being bored. But like, you have to know, you have to know, like, well, they're gonna have to.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I didn't think I was actually gonna get like a message back to be honest with you. Like, you're just that fucking bored. And I was just pretty naive about it as well. Like. So you didn't want to, you get the offer. You're just like, no. I was just like, I didn't even like really expect get it. It is, it did feel good though. You know what I mean? Like, it always feel good to get like
Starting point is 00:22:35 an opportunity like that sent in your way to, you know, I did get like a nice little morale boost out of it. I'm like, okay, I'm capable. Yeah. You know what I mean? If shit hits the fucking fan, maybe there's hope and other areas. Yeah. And maybe I wouldn't have been like, maybe I would have showed that shit too. Because what really like, like, what was kind of like tantalizing about it, was like the whole living space and the benefits that they get like what it was good i mean like the just like all the health benefits like other like side stuff like that are you know you'd think like a gamer in an organization like should have like looking after your hands you know tiny stuff like that i thought that was pretty cool but yeah if uh i probably would have ended up showing up
Starting point is 00:23:22 And then I would have probably been like, yeah, you could probably find someone else, but I could help in other aspects. Like, you could probably pick somebody else up and I could definitely help with content and like officiating and like and like leading.
Starting point is 00:23:37 What like, but in your head were you were you at a point yet with phase that were, that you were like, maybe I should just fucking leave this shit. Like, what are we even doing? No, because like this is before Hector even got it back. And like, obviously, like dude, like, what did you do when Hector
Starting point is 00:23:53 told you he got it back? I was on the mutineers. You were on the mutineers? Yeah. Wait, did he hit you up though? He was like, yeah, I got it back. I mean, I don't think he, like, directly, like, when was it?
Starting point is 00:24:09 So I was on the mutineers, and then I think more so if it's like Hitch, sort of like telling me, and then I see, like, Hitch and scump and bows at the Hex quarters, and I'm not there. I'm in Addison, which is, I don't know if you never. I'm in Addison, which is like 10 minutes north from here. And they're all still in Frisco.
Starting point is 00:24:31 But I like kind of moved away a little bit. I was like 25 minutes away. Just like doing my own thing. And I slowly start seeing like some tweets of them like. But it was also 2020 to where COVID and shit was happening. But I saw them get back together a little bit. And they weren't really making. like content or anything but then I saw like the huntsman team was formed and but I was on the
Starting point is 00:24:59 mutineers and I was honestly fine with the mutineers because I was I think I was the thing I was technically making I was making more just as a substitute over there than what I was at like that my the end of like my immortal's optic contract so I just I just I I don't know. I took what I had or was just riding with what I was doing what I had to do, man. Doing what I had to do. And just riding with mutineers. And then COVID hit. And there's pretty much nothing to do, no events or anything. So the only thing I was doing for mutineers was like I'd go to an event or maybe like fly somewhere else, get pictures, do some war zone online events with some of their players and stuff like that. And that's about like the only thing I'd do. And then like some of my. fan base like I got like my BTH fans were like kind of rooting for mutineers at that point and it was almost like I don't know I I helped as much as I kind of maybe could because it was just like
Starting point is 00:26:05 other people did on their other other other than other substitutes for other teams it's like they don't have they didn't have like a little fan base or like uh you know like so I I think it was like a smart decision by them like knowing they're not going to use their substitute fuck it mania get some some sort of little amount of views we could at least just fucking use him for that and people started paying attention at the mutineers I think a little bit more and then I think like Frosty joined the team
Starting point is 00:26:31 which Halo guy was pretty cool that's pretty heavy one Frosty was a part of that but then I saw optics start slowly forming together I think they like COVID happened so they would come in and just maybe do like one or two videos every like few weeks
Starting point is 00:26:47 I feel like they really weren't making any content at all but I saw that happening and I really didn't think anything of it because the optic how optic sort of ended was like a little sour of a taste in my mouth like I was
Starting point is 00:27:08 I mean it went from hex selling optic to now it's infinite optic and then that was shit and then infinite to immortals and like I don't want to say that was shit but it was just like too this is just not optic. It's fucking, it's just weird.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And then that, that disappeared. And it's like, now I have nothing. Like, it was just, I've given optic. I gave Optic, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2017, 2018, 2019. And now Immortals doesn't want anything to do with us. Crazy. Pex is gone. And now I have nothing.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So it's like, this whole optic shit was like for fucking nothing. And it was just kind of left the bad taste in my mouth. So I just joined mutineers. And I thought that was just going to be. like I'll join mutineers. Maybe in a year or two, I'll move down there and start, like, working internally with them or maybe work if they fucking do something with, like, a Halo team or, like, I kind of thought I was just going to stick it, maybe stick it out with them and figure it out from there. But, I mean, in 2020, I was in my crackhead era, but it was COVID. So it's like, mutineers weren't hit me up to really do shit.
Starting point is 00:28:17 I'd do some war zone event now and then. but besides that it was just like straight back to halo three um i think i saw optic do a few videos together i really didn't they like asked me like yo you want to come into a video but i was like so cracked out i was like i don't want to leave my apartment to go get my door dash let alone come be on fucking camera um so after like a month or so of them trying to get me on i was like sure i'll come do this pre-show i don't even know what it is i haven't kept up with any of y'all's content or anything. And then that's when you've seen the clip on the pre-show where they like tell me
Starting point is 00:28:54 that they bought me out from mutineers. And I was like crying and shit because I mean, for one, I was probably cracked out for days before that. I'm like mentally unstable. But it was just like, damn. It was just like, damn, like optics back. In my head, I think it was just like, damn.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I think like optics back now. My like unknowing future sort of. became like foreseeable again of like okay we're gonna start doing this shit again it's gonna be fun and i have like a home now i guess you could say so it just like it felt good it was sad but i was also like sad that like i was at where i was at in my life as far as just like doing the amount of the amount of drugs that i was and it was just like i felt so skinny and gross on camera and i like didn't really want to come back and start doing content because I just felt I was so like mentally off. But yeah, join again.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And then I just continued taking my Adderall. But it was it was COVID. So it's like they weren't on me for like, hey, oh, we got content this week, three days this week, three days. It was like maybe I have to come in once every like two or three weeks or something. And then they kind of just got the point where it's like something's fucking wrong. with Maniac. Like, he does not
Starting point is 00:30:19 want to come in. He's on Steam 24-7 playing. They know, they already knew I took fucking hella Adderall. So it's just like,
Starting point is 00:30:28 dude, we got to like, we're not producing, I don't think they were pumping out that much content, but they were like, let's figure fucking something out with Maniac. Get him fucking right.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And then, yeah, went to rehab, came back, and then now it's pretty much been optic since. I don't know. What the point,
Starting point is 00:30:46 or what the original question was or where I was going with it. I was about to just start explaining my whole fucking like optic history. No, man. Like I actually haven't heard. I actually haven't heard like all of that like like. Like I'm kind of just like getting my memories back. Bro, 2020 was a lot of it's important.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And I'm sure you weren't like this, but it's like I had moments where I was on like I stay. I would stay up for 70 to like 100 hours at a time. Then like sleep eight to 16 hours. then just repeat repeat repeat and this is this was for nine months straight and they got to the point at the end like my hands hurt i'd play a game of halo three after the game i'd start up another but go put my hands in ice water then come back i had like flies flying in my fucking living room from i don't fucking know what still to this day well i do kind of know what i had fucking a dumpster
Starting point is 00:31:39 of trash just here having showered in like two days i'm skinny as fuck like once i'm I start crashing, like I just lay on the floor and I cry and I throw my pillows. I'm like, I like throw tantrum. I really felt like I was going crazy. Like actual psychotic, like some shit you like see in the movies of like, like, shit like that I was literally doing in my apartment. Like I just had the fucking most weirdest energy and like psychotic fucking shit happening in my head and I just thought I was fucking losing it. According to the world, you weren't allowed to leave. I mean, it wasn't, I wouldn't, I didn't want to leave either because I was fucking scared. Like, Adderall brought like a whole, the amount I was taking brought an entirely new set of like paranoia and like, I'm getting text from Hex.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Like, yo, can you do this video? Or like, Paige, yo, can you do this? And I'm ignoring it for two days. And then they text me again. And it's like, that spikes anxiety. And I order DoorDash every single meal, but I'm even hardly eating. But it's like, I don't even, I'm afraid to just go outside or be stuck in the elevator with someone. and I just have this complete fucking paranoia
Starting point is 00:32:48 and this was at the lowest of low and just like crying every single night and like in the fetal position on my floor and my apartment's fucking disgusting my hands hurt beyond fucking belief because I played so much like that's how my 2020 went
Starting point is 00:33:08 and it was just a fucking I don't know it was a crazy experience and I was just like cooped up so I know the feeling of being just like like cooped up by yourself and it's not a good time. And I, oh, we're talking about, but like, my experience from like when I, when, like, when, like, when I left, I don't know, I don't know what the vibes were like, um, when I left, obviously
Starting point is 00:33:38 y'all kept rolling. Y'all kept going on. We kind of looked at it like Pam left at the right time because it was just like, no one enjoyed anything ever and I was still I was even a crackhead then to just I was just I was like really pissed off about the Spratt thing yeah it's fucking that's my guy and like just fucking just fucking pump faked him with the fucking visa and they just said like I remember like you know read I remember just getting so mad the guy that guy took a heat a heat from all of us like he was kind of like there was a little bit of a time where we were just like fuck read type shit but I remember yeah
Starting point is 00:34:13 I kind of directed a lot of it at him a little unnecessary but no fucking reason either like what's he gonna do exactly he did whatever he could but he was just the face yeah so joint literally so like all my drive back from when i when i when i flew my mom here to just help me pack up all my stuff and just did the 24 plus hour drive we didn't even stop it what was what was your like plan well i already knew i was doing like i'm leaving this fucking shit and i was just leaving I don't I don't know where this is going The guy who I originally joined
Starting point is 00:34:48 Like Hector's shit He's sitting there He doesn't even have anything to say About it all He's kind of just in the same spot As kind of like all of us They're not even like really listening to him They're kind of just like doing
Starting point is 00:34:59 Like their own thing with it I'm talking about infinite right So Like I uh There's a little bit before the border In Niagara I uploaded my video Saying I left And I um
Starting point is 00:35:09 A couple days later Uh I join I finally got to the Toronto House and then I joined then. And, you know, it felt, it felt good because it was like, all right, I'm making moves. I made a decision and I'm not letting other people kind of dictate that. I feel in control.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And for a while, that was when Black Ops 4 was out. I think it was one year before the franchising started, right? Because after Black Ops 4, it was franchising. I'm 99% I remember. So black ups for it was a great game. Came out crushing it. Actually got one of my buddies to like move in. And like he was like kind of just helping me like get fit and all that.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Like I was just on point with like all the videos and all that. And I didn't know that the Toronto uprising. So we were moving into another team house that was already owned by another team. And it was the Toronto uprising. So that's the NBA 2K Raptors team. So there we moved in and I had no idea. I thought we were there for like the whole year or something like that. Then out of nowhere we get hit with a curveball
Starting point is 00:36:17 saying we have to move out like next month. So I'm like, dude, what the fuck? I just had one of my real life friends like move out here. Like, and now we're kind of just out. Like we have to move out and shit like that. So that was just like really shitty. And then for a long time I was just saying, yeah, we're going to get another team house.
Starting point is 00:36:36 We're working with Bell or some shit like that. We're working with, you know, people in Toronto. They want a face house in Toronto. I'm like, all right, cool. So I'll just wait out for that. Just kept nonstop hearing that. This is before Monofer 2019 was even out. So that was like 2018.
Starting point is 00:36:53 So I just kept nonstop hearing that. I get flown out to play Monofer 2019. And this is in San Francisco. So I'm like, man, fuck this. So I'm going to get on to like the music shit that kind of just happened while doing this. So like while I was in San Francisco, I was like, man, I don't even know if I want to go back home. Because as soon as I get back home, I'm going to wish I was out here in L.A., like doing something. Like, like, I'm going to wish that I wasn't just stuck in Perry Sound, just waiting for the next thing to happen.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I needed to do something. So I decided to just miss my flight. I called my mom. I was like, hey, I'll see you when I see you. I'm going to live out my suitcase. I'm going to live in, I'm just going to couch surf in L.A. So I, like, slept at the cloud house. I had a couple buddies.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Really? Yeah. Like banks, Sumeray, rice combing shit. Yeah, dude. Like, I really just,
Starting point is 00:37:48 I didn't have a plan. I didn't have a plan. I was just like, yeah, I'm just gonna, like, live out my suitcase. I did all my work on my phone.
Starting point is 00:37:55 The Faze offices were there at the time. And I kind of just like barely went there just to just do like some merch drops and shit like that. But I just, and you know, Steve, you know the guy from, I remember hearing you like lived with him or some shit.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah. So I, I dead ass lived there. with them. I paid for like a month's rent and then I kind of just lingered around them because like they're their music, their music producers and they've done music all the time. And I just wanted to be near it because I hadn't ever had the influence of just being in the studio. Yeah. And just like I just wanted to learn. I wanted to learn something. I wanted to feel like I can do something else other than gaming. You know what I mean? It can feel like gaming is a beautiful thing. I love gaming to death. But it's just some people can be out there in the world to tell you that you can't do something else. And I just really wanted to prove, prove myself. wrong like prove them wrong with that and to feel like I can do something else yeah even if that includes you like with the beats shit and all that I know like y'all like to fuck with me on the beats and all that I get it it's whatever but I do genuinely enjoy obviously anyone who starts sucks and I go back and listen to my shit I'm like I was fucking trash but like you definitely
Starting point is 00:39:06 picked it up you're like yo how do I do this is what I download this is what I you know help me out real quick like how do you now like I might have gave you a few tips but you fucking I don't know if you were on like YouTube tutorials and whatnot but you sat there in your room and grinded that out till like you were full on making
Starting point is 00:39:26 just like whole ass I don't want to say whole ass songs but like you figured out how to piece I can make it like I know what I'm doing on the program now like when I look at that program I don't get intimidated or ask myself how do I do that and you went for it I did all the way So the cool thing is when I went to LA
Starting point is 00:39:44 I ran to me went to some random house party and I at this house party I met I met two people from like from my past actually like one of them was a part of a different band he's from the always and I was like what the hell are you doing here this is crazy and then I met another two other guys that they just seemed like cool people and I told them like what I was there for
Starting point is 00:40:06 and just to be around the music more and just kind of like you know just get more influence like that, right? And then they invite me back to their place. We're just like hanging out drinking literally just from a random house party. And then a few days later, they're like, yeah, we knew you who you were this entire time. Like, we're big fans of you. Pumage. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, it's a good thing you just held back because honestly, like, whenever somebody comes up to you and they're just like immediately fanning or whatever, you kind of distance yourself immediately and you block it off. Well, it's like you would engage in the conversation. But it's like
Starting point is 00:40:37 once that conversation's over, you're like, you kind of look at them. It just, you're just, just like okay they i can't who it's like it's almost like it's not even going to be genuine now because it's like they are just a fan of what i do it's so like i was they they let me stay at their place too so this is part of the couch surfing part and one of them seems caylin uh another guy's name is julian and caylin was a country songwriter at the time so like he was um he was a country songwriter at the time and uh making completely different music than what he is now. Let me just be around him.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I remember just setting up like just couch pillows on his, on his floor. And then he let me be on his PlayStation 4. He had his monitor there. And I would just play B-O-4 on his account and on my account and shit like that. Just, you know, like every day, kind of just watch and make music and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:41:37 And just, you know, kind of just be around him and just like ask questions about the industry and all that and like how things work. like you know the reality of things because you know a lot of shit in the music can to my understanding can be a really really just misinterpreted and it's just really not how it really seems and how like dickish some people can be when it comes to certain things so anyway so i met those guys and i was there till august and then i was like all right it's time to go home and then after that i just made so much so much beats like in between cod lobbies and all that
Starting point is 00:42:08 like i was like all right i want to just make beats now because i didn't even have a laptop there Then COVID happened. I'm just sitting there grinding beats. Just like kind of figuring it all that by myself. And COVID happens. Make sure you're talking to the mind. Oh, yeah. COVID happens.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I get a random DM from one of them. He's like, yo, are you still keeping up with like the beats and all that? And I was like, yeah, man, of course. He's like, I got a homie. His name's T-minus. So fucking crazy. I got a homie name T-minus. He says he wants to like link up and like play games and all that.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And we told him like you're into the music. and he was like, he's down to show you shit. I'm like, shut the fuck up. Now when he said T-minus, did you know who T-minus was? I remember the Drake song. He was like, when T-minus was still making beats and shit like that. And then I was like, all right, now I really want to know all the stuff that he's touched. And so Kailen met T-minus at a random, like, writing camp in, like, Jamaica or some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:43:07 And, like, he didn't want to fan over him too much, I guess. And he didn't want to come off like that. I get it. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then they, those two became good friends over Discord. Yeah. Those two became good friends over Discord.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And now, Kalyn doesn't even write country anymore. He's got his own shit. He's crazy artist. He lets me play his shit like on stream. Barely, I'm not trying to like overdo it. I'm just trying to get people more aware of him because he's, he's so good, dude. He's so good. But I've been able to watch this dude who's been on FL Studio for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:43:42 just navigate through this program make the craziest beats out of a few notes from scratch. He showed me how he showed me how sacrifices were made from Drake he showed me how he showed me the stems for hell yeah fucking right he showed me like
Starting point is 00:43:58 he showed me some crazy shit. He let me like use some of his accounts to get some VSTs for free bro like he's a homie. I'm so fucking I'm definitely very jealous of that it was crazy I was like dude this is no like there's no way And he was, he's such a nice guy, man.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I'm not going to sit here and say he was my mentor, because I don't want, like, to put that, I'm not trying to have that, be, like, the label. He's just a good guy who let me watch him work. And I'm someone who's very observant, as you can tell. I learn a lot from observing. I would just sit on your bed and just, like, watch you, like, do it,
Starting point is 00:44:27 like, in between your shit and, like, you know, ask a question here and there. But I definitely learned a lot from him, and I learned a lot from Kaelan. And all that, universally has to be, like, the planet's aligning. Like if I didn't go to that one house party when I just decided to miss my flight and just couch surf in L.A. Years, like four or five years like prior to all that happening, I wouldn't have ever met him.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And I wouldn't have ever met Kaelin. And I wouldn't have ever met some shit like that. And all that was just a gut feeling to just be like, man, just screw it. Just try it. And all that happened. You know what's also crazy is, uh... That's like a section we would not expect to be in Pomage's life. No.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Like you think like Pomage like leaves Optic does what shit happens with Faye's houses and stuff and probably went just goes back home and then plays in his office but then it's like there's just the whole fucking section
Starting point is 00:45:23 of just like hanging with producers gaming with them learning to make beats uh being in calls with T-minus who is a super well-respected top-tier name in the especially like
Starting point is 00:45:41 well I think just beat making community production community he's crazy dude he's uh he's fucking massive and that's that's that's summer too I'm just doing that that's somewhere too
Starting point is 00:45:53 like he was uh well that's when cold war came out and then during the Cold War season like I remember just being in the calls with him while he plays League of Legends all the time he wanted to see me play and I played I felt like one of those moments
Starting point is 00:46:06 I didn't play League of Legends with him oh I didn't play legal legends with him He wanted to seem, you used to? Yeah. And the first, I played in like season one, season two, but I was good. Like, I was a good player. I bet I could get into it. It seems like a game I could handle.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Like, I used to play like... Like, not like Valorin good. Like, I was like pretty fucking good. I bet. It's a completely different game. Yeah. Like, I used to, dude, I used to fucking have hundreds of hours on World of World of Warcrafts. I used to competitively battle Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I don't know if you know this. Like I used to be in a chat called Pokemon Wi-Fi chat. That's crazy. My Soul Silver. I used to competitively battle Pokemon. Like there was a certain way to raise your Pokemon From fucking from the egg That's crazy
Starting point is 00:46:46 You just sit there and you breed the Pokemon So you get a good Pokemon with IE's What system or whatever? It's just on the DS Really? Yeah, so you just raise the Pokemon So like it's a whole process man It would take probably about 12 to 14 hours
Starting point is 00:47:01 To get one Pokemon raised With the right move set With the right nature With the right EVs and IVs You gotta do a bunch of shit You got to like LeBron James This Pokemon up from fucking birth Like you got to breed it
Starting point is 00:47:14 Because every single Pokemon is bred with a different Set of IVs if they're like 31 Which is the max Zero and you just there's a certain way to calculate There you. Just think about the people you were fighting against Like who are these people? I was like 12 I was like 12 11 but like they were older
Starting point is 00:47:32 Some of them were older and like I would just Sure they're still fucking playing I bet some of them are nasty So like I just understood like I know how to I know how to navigate that world. Where was they at? What was I saying? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Where were we after all the beats and stuff? Oh, I was just going to say like, T, like, he's one of the coolest people. He actually let me listen to, like, the J-Cole album, like, a week before it all dropped, dude. That's so insane. And I didn't, I was just, I don't want to be, like, asking too much questions, but I've asked him questions,
Starting point is 00:48:08 and he's just been so cool about answering. I've asked him about like the writing pro like what's the difference what's the writing uh difference between like j cole kendrick and drake bro he told me all that's so fucking crazy kendrick writes like this drake likes the weird shit j cole just does this i'm just like dude like what this is so crazy his his small talk we i'm not going to sit here and completely like just talk about him like i'm going to keep that to myself but like you could do a podcast with him nah nah he's he's he'd be doing too much it. I got to tell you something like that kind of just recently happened, which is also a kind of a crazy synchronicity. But with with T-minus, like, so he just got, he got married recently. This, I'm just going to get ready to. So he got married recently. Kaelan was there at his wedding and all that. And I couldn't imagine like how many like Noah 40, all of them, dude. His small talk is crazy. He's like, yeah, like, dude, just Drake just texting me and shit like that. It's like, what? It's like, it's like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:49:11 That's so fucking weird. I was like, yeah, I put J-Cole on to FL Studio and shit like that. I'm like, wait, J-Cole fucks with FL Studio now? Dude, that's all I needed to hear. And like, I just, as soon as I just knew he was on FL Studio, I was like, oh, dude, I can learn everything from you. Just by watching, dude, like, that's it. But this cool little synchronicity that happened, like, I have a,
Starting point is 00:49:31 a longtime friend from, like, junior, senior kindergarten. And she was, she was an account at first, but then she sort of started doing her own thing, like designing wedding dresses and shit like that. Out of nowhere, T's wife, wife now noticed that I was following her and just her,
Starting point is 00:49:53 T's wife, her name's Robin, she recognized me following her and she actually designed. She designed her wedding dress. Damn, what the fuck? And she was like, how do you know this guy? She's like, that's fucking, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Is that crazy? It's fucking crazy how the universe works. sometimes. Right spot, right time, doing the right thing, it feels like. Yeah, that's nice. And I was like, yeah, dude, like, I know him, like, he's fucking Tommy's so much shit. Yeah, that's my boy. D-minus and shit. And then she's like, yeah, that's my friend. Like, I grew up with,
Starting point is 00:50:22 I grew up with this guy. Yeah, that's, dude. So what'd you do I guess sort of after, when'd you stop couch surfing and fucking where'd you go? Just back home? Back home. To the office? To the office. And then it's, did shit start getting dark there?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Like, shit started getting COVID hits and you're just like, I was when Wars on 1 was like coming around that March and then peak COVID happened and then just were you depressed and shit? I was having fun for a bit, but then I started getting depressed because I was like like getting told to get to kind of like not to kind of feel like I was getting led on by phase. A little bit just like yeah, this is going to happen. is happening. Like, yo, we got big plans. We want you and you. We're going to have y'all in the team house. And then these guys in the team house.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And then we got collab. We're going to do this thing with LeBron. And then like we want, we got all y'all are going to have merch. And we're all going to be like shit like that. Yeah. And then like it started to get weird. Like my merch did really well like with phase. And then slowly I started like kind of having to apply for merch spots.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah. And I was just like, why am I having to like? fight over like merch drop spots like when one mine does very well two I've been here longer than about 95% of you guys these are my videos up on this channel that are still in the top 10
Starting point is 00:51:53 top 20 like in their strictly gaming videos talk to them like I'm like dude like why am I having to fight for this spot like yes Nick Merck should have his own spot like they're infinitely bigger than me but kind of just like feeling like not
Starting point is 00:52:09 that sort of... Did you not feel like you had like a hex to text and be like I need this to happen? Sort of... Yeah. Because I feel like with Optic right now,
Starting point is 00:52:20 I got hex and I got page to where if like literally anything I need or want done or a question or if I'm pissed off or I complained a page or a text hex for something
Starting point is 00:52:34 or a text hex or text page for just like it's not a fucking merch spot but just like anything like i felt like i had someone i could reach out to yeah i didn't really have it felt like i didn't really have that because it's like over you're not reaching out the temper no because even like i was gaming with temper all the time but tommy was just in the same spot as all the guys yeah it's so weird doesn't make fucking sense it just that's when it started started to feel like kind of shitty like it was like dude but is it not these are my boys like like they don't have
Starting point is 00:53:05 the ultimate call and all that which is just like really dog shit but how much money did they they must have just got a fuck ton of money for like giving these dudes I guess so I don't know dude honestly I didn't I didn't want to ask too much about it because I didn't want to be like all up in their shit and all that but like and like I'm confused because like all these all these people took over phase that like no one knows like the head of phase and all the shit we don't know who's running phase who's on top of what and like all we see is like the OG members no longer being a part of it but then it's like okay but they had ownership.
Starting point is 00:53:40 So it's like they must have gotten fucking paid crazy. So it's like how can. But then I'll see banks say like, I haven't gotten paid a fucking dollar or I haven't made a fucking dollar off phase or something like that. So I'm just like, dude, I'm fucking confused them. Because how does it go from you guys owning everything? Do you guys, I don't know how much if they own any anymore?
Starting point is 00:54:05 But it's like you're saying you didn't get paid. and like, I think he said, like, shares were stolen from him, and it's just like, and then people complained about FACE not being what it is, and I'm just like, dude, they fucking, I think they sold the company. It's just how it fucking works. It's not like infinite all over again there. I don't think in e-sports right now, especially for a phaser and Optic, selling the company is not how it could fucking work.
Starting point is 00:54:28 No. Like, once HX sold Optic, we saw how quick that fucking went into the ground. And it's just because HX was the, key thing in optic if we have a fucking what's it called what were they called
Starting point is 00:54:46 the the fucking little fun events we would do in our backyard oh like smooth comps if there was a smooth comp hex is there early he's yelling at people to get up like he's if we have
Starting point is 00:55:00 a gym video like he's picking us up we go to the gym video like he's organizing he did everything so it was like of course once he sold it and then wasn't getting along with Jay and how they were doing it and heck technically didn't have a say anymore I guess
Starting point is 00:55:21 I mean he had a say but technically not on paper they did not have to listen to what he had to say so he started just like distancing himself and then he started seeing it falling apart because we're like well we don't want to be a part of this fucking shit we'll go do fucking I don't know what the fuck we're going to do, but it's like, sure, we'll milk this for a little bit just to pay rent,
Starting point is 00:55:41 but like, I don't know, it's just not something that, like, an optic and a phase, I think, like, it slowly starts to, like, being in it. You can't do that. Maybe, like, a fucking EG can just, like, sell, because I don't know if they have, like,
Starting point is 00:55:57 a core fan base, but as a core fan base, who's, the core fan base is only here for the core of the content. It's pretty much the cod team, the content, content team and then we have amazing bonuses like the halo team the Gears award team the counter strike team like that just worked perfectly but once you take out the cod team or the content team it's like what the fuck this isn't even what we're fans of anymore literally start to like when
Starting point is 00:56:25 i was like when all that shit was going down it literally start to feel like infinite v2 and i was like man like why am i joining these teams and like it's like i know like i know like i know people like like to meme about this whole like being a part of like both teams like so many times but like both times I left were literally not they're like when I joined it wasn't even though it was and by the time I left it wasn't even the same people what about when did you I don't even know so who did you join first what was the first or it was optic and that was when yeah 2011 damn and then and then I was expected like 2013. No, bro.
Starting point is 00:57:11 I've been doing this. I joined in 2015. Bro, I was 14 when I joined. Blanks or joined, I think, at 2014. Then I think Bo's joined in 2013. Like, I wasn't too far behind, but 2011's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:29 So what, you join and it's like a sniping team? Was there even a competitive team? And Hector was focusing more on MLG and on the competitive side. I was part of it. the sniping team. The sniping team was being run by someone else who just wasn't making the right calls. And the person I joined...
Starting point is 00:57:44 It was Hutch. No, no, no, no, no. I fucked with Hutch heavy. Was Optic J? No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Well, maybe. It was someone, it was a guy named Paul. He just wasn't making the right calls and it kind of, and it didn't seem like he was listening to us. And the guy who originally got me in, Optic Predator,
Starting point is 00:58:04 he's like, I like to boast about this. I'm the last Optic recruit to be recruited on Xbox Live. He likes to tell me that. He's like, you're the last person out of the plane or some shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fucking funny. It was actually so sick, dude. I remember it to this day. But when the person
Starting point is 00:58:20 who recruited me to Optic is sitting there telling me to leave because this isn't going well, Predator was telling me, he's like, yo, I told him Seabass hit me up all those years ago and I ignored him for like eight or nine months like when MW3 first started.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Or like, eh, it was like six or seven. I don't know. I ignored him. He kept saying, face Pomage, face Pamage, like on Skype and shit when we're still on that. And then I would tell, I told Predd, I told Floyd Slim. Were you like, the big dog that like wasn't signed to an org? No, I was with Optic, but he was like trying to poach me. And like, and I told Predator, I was like, because they had a majority of Optic didn't even want me on.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Like the majority of the sniping team. Those guys didn't want me on. They didn't think I was that good. Even Diet treats. I will say that. you don't know who that is. Now do you look back and you're like, y'all were trash compared to me.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I'm just, I'm a little, I can have my moments where I'm like a little bit like. Your actions proved otherwise. Yes. Like I was uploading all the time. Like I was like, I turned into a different player when I like joined Optic.
Starting point is 00:59:23 No bullshit. Like it was meant to be or some shit. So majority of Optic didn't want me on. And those guys like rated fulsome Predator Apostle. Those guys vouched for me so heavy to join. Above everyone else. else like I didn't want to leave like ever but when the direction of when phase was on it's
Starting point is 00:59:43 uprising there and then we're just seeing our videos compared to theirs and then I have the guy who recruited me being like you know you might have I think you should take that opportunity like this is a hex hex is focusing on MLG and all that like black ops one competitive and shit like that when Predators sit in there telling me you like yo you should go like this isn't like I would do that but it's not going to be Phase Predator it's going to be Optic Predator forever type shit you know so I was like all right like I I'm a very big voucher for like loyalty like I was loyal to those guys like forever still am and they like those guys are all older than me like three or four years old than me I'm like 14 don't I'm not sure what to do with this opportunity that
Starting point is 01:00:23 I'm getting shut it out my way and they're telling me like yo you should go do that I was like I'm only going to do it if you guys give me your blessing like so then I join and then I leave and then I join and then that's when phase that's when Tommy and Hex were like all right you guys can't poach our players anymore because I left and then I joined Faze and then did you kind of blow out with Faze or I remember
Starting point is 01:00:46 Did it work out as well as you wanted? I mean yeah yeah like I released within the first week of me joining I had an introduction video and I put out like a big montage that actually got leaked like an album like there was like these community channels back then and
Starting point is 01:01:03 the fuck dude it was crazy I think about it all the time like I don't even know who leaked it but like I had my editor at the time Blarpie he was making it and randomly one day we woke up and my video was just out on like six or seven community channels with like 60
Starting point is 01:01:18 70,000 views on this video on this video. I'm like I'm pissed because it's not even done yet and like these these channels are like reaping my video and shit like that and I got them all struck I was like take that down take that down take that down like that's funny it's funny thinking about like the resemblances
Starting point is 01:01:34 of like albums and like montages and stuff like because to me montages are like a gamer's album it's a collection of your footage it is your personality you got a bunch of fucking footage but what's your best shit that's throwing that together what's your favorite music like what personality of music do you like to put in there and shit like that
Starting point is 01:01:52 how different can you make it like what do you want your clips to look like this is I think that's my forte like I know what I'm talking about when it comes to shit like that especially with like editors and shit like that did you edit most of your shit I like to yeah but my biggest stuff like the iridescent videos and the Caddo's too
Starting point is 01:02:09 I was like you know you need to do that I can do my perfectionist majority of them and like I kind of got like I took I take so much pride in my perfectionist videos man like I take so much pride in those because one I like editing two I like sinking and I would get very
Starting point is 01:02:26 upset when an editor would just I would hit an editor up that I liked and I could tell they were just throwing shit in there not in a way that puts me in the spotlight Because that's what your job is. Like, as an editor, like, for a montage,
Starting point is 01:02:39 like, you're supposed to make the creator, like, look good. You don't want to flex over too hard with, like, shit that you can't see gameplay. Yeah. Like, you don't want to do that.
Starting point is 01:02:48 And, like, they were just throwing the clips in there. I was like, why am I just, why am I doing this? I can do it so much better than you. I know how I want my shit to look. You guys are just trying to get paid,
Starting point is 01:02:57 like, and just finish the video. Like, I would take offense to that. Like, no bullshit. Yeah. And, like, that's why I prefer to just edit a lot of those videos myself and all,
Starting point is 01:03:06 that. That's why it's tough finding, especially nowadays montages aren't a thing nowadays. Like you can't find people. I was gonna say, fucking, so now currently, what uh, where are you at in the gaming world? I guess sniping's not a fucking thing anymore. Snipeying is
Starting point is 01:03:24 a thing. I think I am having more fun just... You're a casual now. I mean, I guess so. But I kind of like want to see, like I've seen myself, I've seen myself play and you play and use controller and like sniping on all the cods like I think I've I think I've solidified like whatever it is I was trying to do as a kid yeah like to myself I've solidified it why on earth would I go another 10 years doing the same thing that I already like you know what I mean like that kind of seems like I'm gonna put I mean unless you enjoy it but like I got a point where guess you could say I solidified myself in Halo and then I tried other like I
Starting point is 01:04:09 I played Fortnite. We had the squad world record. Like we broke Tifu and like phases record or some shit. Like did that. H1Z1 was fun as fuck. But then like nowadays, I'm no longer on Adderall. I feel like I've lost my drive for video games.
Starting point is 01:04:30 So it's just like, damn. I still want to stream, but it's like, what the fuck am I going to stream? And I'm just, I think I'm at a point where now I'm just like almost full on casual. like a month ago when I started streaming again it was I was like I think I'm just going to start
Starting point is 01:04:46 up my stream I don't care what the views are I don't care I mean I'm gonna care but it's like I I'm just gonna for my mental sake I can't start playing halo again and just like getting pissed off these people are fucking better than me they've been grinding the game the last two years I'm gonna get like it's too much stress it literally would ruin my day some sometimes so I was just like dude, when I start streaming again, I'm just going to be casual. I'm going to, like, react to videos, watch stuff, just talk to my chat. And then did that for like a few days. And then my chat's like, play Valerite, play Valorant.
Starting point is 01:05:18 And I was like, what was it? There was like two games. I was like, I'm either going to play Valerant or I'm going to play. What was it? There was something else. I don't think it was Counterstrike. Fall guys. No, not Far guys.
Starting point is 01:05:31 But it was like, Chad, what am I going to play? I'm either going to play Valerant or I'm going to play this other shit. I forget what the fucking game was. But they were like, to play Valor, try Valorant. I was like, fine. I get on. And I think I played like an hour or two. And I was like, all right.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And it was fun. Like, if I die, you still talk to chat. I was like, it kind of works for the chat. And I was like, but I don't think anyone will give a fucking, no one wants to see me get demolished on Valorant. Because I'm just, I was like, dude, this game is fucking hard. Like, I was good at H1Z1. I felt like I had a really good shot.
Starting point is 01:06:05 I was good at Fortnite. felt like I had a really good shot. I felt like I was good on mouse and key. Now once it started getting all creative with my left hand and trying to build and shit in Fortnite, then I couldn't keep up, but like aiming,
Starting point is 01:06:17 I always thought I was good at. Now I get on this shit and it's just, I just haven't figured it out yet. I've been sticking it out. My streams had been doing pretty decent. Like, for, I thought I was going to start playing Valor again
Starting point is 01:06:33 and my stream was just going to kind of die but it was just something I was just going to, deal with try to make it entertaining talk to chat but it's uh it's gone pretty well but that's pretty much where i'm fucking at is playing valour right now and i know we've been playing uh people love when we play man yeah like honestly i think like with at least me you and bo's like i think we could play literally anything yeah i want to um i don't honestly i don't like five stacking we play harder people i like i notice when we five stack like first of first off i'm not as like ridiculous and like
Starting point is 01:07:08 loud and just fucking trolley and screaming and raging so it's like I feel like it kind of hurts my stream and I'm talking to my stream last I always have to mute and y'all are all talking in my ear and then I'm muting and talking to them and it's just my streams I feel like died down so much more and I'm playing better people so I'm getting shit on and it's like I'm not like I'm no longer like sort of trolling in game and like just doing whatever the fuck I want to do
Starting point is 01:07:33 it's like I'm trying to play for the team and do strats and I almost like don't like it as much but like twos or threes I'm always down for even though we fucking can't because our ranks are you're like platinum or whatever but I do have a separate account if you want to get on it but yeah that's why I'm at fucking casual
Starting point is 01:07:50 valerent player but I am kind of enjoying it where is that about where you're at too? I mean I've been playing I mean I think you're just waiting for the new fucking cod I'm just waiting for the new shit but I'm at the point I feel like in my career Like I just want For me
Starting point is 01:08:06 I have all the checklist off Like with all the montauters I've made And shit like that And the videos I've always wanted to see myself make I have I still want to see I got to the point I wanted to see myself on mouse and keyboard
Starting point is 01:08:19 Just as the challenge And I just wanted to see like if I could do it Which I totally can And I've just I've spent a lot of time Like on aim trainers and all that Like Is that key? Like do I need to do AIM labs
Starting point is 01:08:30 Like dude like It's practice man Like you can't People are telling me like bro you need to do it like this is you're complaining about your aim and you're not doing that you're not doing like aim labs or anything or aim training dude to sit there and be like it doesn't help has to be like one of the most one of the most ignorant things like in my opinion like i just i get on play one death match saying competitive then i'm like i'm missing shots like you can't be too like
Starting point is 01:08:55 it blows my mind when i hear anyone say like the like no none of it helps like dude you cannot be this arrogant to think like that practicing i saw 10s play a aim Am labs to get a high score and I was like what the fuck am I watching? Tens does aim labs in between matches of Valance. It's insane. I also think it's like focus training too. Focus training, dude. Put music on.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I lose focus. Listen to nothing was the same while you're doing six shot. Some shit like that and then hop on dude. Like tiny shit like that matters. When the new cod comes out you're gonna you're not like crazy on YouTube right now. Are you like uploading? New cod comes out are you gonna be? Oh, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:33 no yeah i've i've i've gotten i've kind of like gotten myself excited for like this next cod and shit like that whether i do it on mouse and keyboard a controller i'm not totally sure yet um because i do i do want to see the version of myself when i'm on mouse and keyboard and i like that i've gotten kind of used to it because one i wanted to prove to myself that i could do it and two i wanted to see what this whole amos and fuss was the shit about like one i don't really care when i say i don't care about the amos conversation i am thinking about it from a viewer's perspective. When somebody comes to my chat and they see me play a game and I sit there and say, dude, this guy just killed me because he has aim assist or some bullshit like that. I think that is one of
Starting point is 01:10:15 the most corneous things that you could ever say. Because like, dude, like why? Because this guy thinks I'm a certain way. Like, there's no way I'm going to sit here and actually try and justify as to why I lost this gunfire or why I'm not doing good because of what somebody else is using. I think that's just- Yeah, I don't give a shit about like it. Like whenever I see people complain about it all the time. I'm like, dude, to me, it's all just impression farming now. Like, there's no way.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Like, it scares me if people are, like, genuinely serious and mad about it because you can't do anything about it. You're not going to be able to do anything about it. The devs are going to do what they do, and you're going to sit there and you're going to play it. So as a viewer, if I go to a chat and I see myself complaining about it, it just sounds
Starting point is 01:10:55 very, very corny and just honestly, like, you know? Like, you can't do anything about it, bro. Like, why are you thinking of a lot? But what this input is, why are you thinking about what another person's input is? Because you lost. I had to check myself yesterday playing Valorant. I was losing full, raging, complaining.
Starting point is 01:11:15 And then I thought back of an APG clip. And he was like, just do what you can with what you have. Exactly. I'll blame myself before I ever blame what other people are doing before. You know what I mean? Like how else do you get better? Like you're not going to get better blaming like somebody your other controller. Like, dude, you could have.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Hit your shots more. Hit the fucking aim. Better positioning. You could have used something in game. You could have done something else in game. Exactly. I see this all the time in my chat. I hate it, bro.
Starting point is 01:11:44 I get fucking shit on. Aim labs is free, you know. That's good. But all right, man. I'm going to, um, I'm going to go play Valerant. We're going to go. Are you streaming from here today?
Starting point is 01:11:58 I think. Okay. Yeah. Well, I think Cod Next is being played. right now. So every single viewer I ever have will be stolen from me for that. That's why I kind of wish we... But yeah, go check out the Codnext shit.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I appreciate you. I upon on the pod with me, Pam. It's been a good one. I wish we did this yesterday so we could be watching Codnext with everyone else. Oh, I want to play Valorant. But... I'm done too. We'll see. All right. Thanks for having me, man. Yeah, man. Anytime, man. All right, y'all. Thank you so much for watching.
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