The Flycast - FORMAL LEAVING THE HECZQUARTERS? (What’s Next?) | The Flycast Ep. 84

Episode Date: July 26, 2023

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I know how to start that. Start the shit off. You said fuck me. And I was like, cool. Is that not a good intro starter? Oh, I was, I was a great, like, the actual song. What's up, guys? Welcome back to another fly cast episode.

84. 84. We're getting up there. Today's a special one. I think we're a guest pod now. Are we? We host a pod, but we bring on guests. That's what we do know.

Well, it's just hard. Third guest in a row. It's hard. Shotsy. then baller, shot caller, page reads. I still feel bad about that podcast.

Why? Because I was just fucking hung over beyond belief and I just feel like my brain was mush just, it was a shit show. But we have formal

here with us today. I've been thinking of questions all week. Have you? No. I forgot that like, I forgot you were on until today. Oh,

okay. I feel like. It was flatter. Now it just hurt. I feel like I haven't, I, I don't think, actually, I've seen you, but we're so, like, distant now that you're here. Distant emotionally or physically?

Both. What you've been up to? I feel like it's been, like, six months. Nah. I think it had. Like, you haven't. Like, I think everyone started going to, um, downtown. Yeah.

Downtown at, like, in, like, January. I mean, like, my lease is up and, like, two months or something and then I'll figure it out but I mean I like it here like this is just me Davis and Brandon yeah we're gonna ride this out till they kick us out yeah that's how I feel it's it's just like a comfy it's like a big living room it's kind of like like imagine if everyone left the scruff house but like they were like Nick you can stay for four more months you can stay in the basement I would still been in the milk optic even more I would have done it and it would have been nice it would have been nice yeah that's pretty much

I can't imagine. I mean, I can't imagine. But this is so like, walk out of your apartment, you walk over, it's just like such a chill. There's not many people. And I know you love that.

Yeah, and I know the fact that we all, everyone's moving downtown. You're just fucking God. Like to walk out of, there's a few apartments, a few places by the new place that you could live in

and just walk out of. But it's like you walk out. It's just like, hell of people. There are some crackheads. And I just, I just know you would be so fucking annoyed. Yeah, I was like, he is not going to move down.

That's pretty much why I've been, like, stalling it, just because, like, I know it's going to be a lot different. Like, living in a city is just, like, a different vibe. And I've never really been about that. So. I feel like you could, though. I mean, I could. I definitely can.

I just, uh, I prefer not to. I feel like you could enjoy the city life. If, like, you move down there because, like, the production team and Paige and everyone kind of hang. hangs out a lot and I don't know if you'd like want to hang out with like no like get out I feel like it'd be different because you're and I'm sure you'd like it down here because like you sort of do the same thing every day you just you come here grind whatever so my pattern but down there yeah it's such like a pattern of like the same shit every day but down there I feel like there be some new stuff to get into you can still do a pattern down there though for sure I mean yeah 100% but it's just like we can Bruce you think Bruce you think Bruce is Who's moving downtown? Explore the world. I mean, Brand's going to have to.

I think he's going to, he's probably, I don't know if brand's going to come back before the HQ's gone because I think their offseason is super long. Oh, it's long. And I just know, like, when he goes home, like, I can't blame him. Like, he's going to want to stay there for a long time

and, like, he's going to get comfortable there. Why does he go home? Because he likes his family. Am I the, yeah. Am I the, like, I feel like you don't visit that much. Okay, well, first of all. His brother was here like two weeks ago.

Don't just, don't like. Someone join me. I'm a shit family member. I was at home. I go home for like Christmas. Yeah. And then like last time I was at home I stayed for a month because like my mom kept getting sad that I was leaving

so I just kept like rebooking my ticket for like a week and then a week and then a week and then it turned to a month. But yeah, I love my family. So fuck you. Hey, I love my family too. It's crazy. I remember moving out and when I first moved out it was like I'm a visit all the time.

Like I love y'all. But once I fucking moved out I feel bad for my mom Because it's like your baby That you raise this whole time So I was like I don't know 23 or something when I moved out But then just one day I'm like

Yeah I'm moving And or I'm like I'm moving in a month And she's like oh shit really okay And then the day comes And I move out And then I'm just back like once a year now And it's just

I feel like That must fucking suck as a pair. I mean, that's how my mom was. I told her, I was like, I got a job. I got like a job offer in Chicago. I have to go. She was like, whoa, whoa, like, tell me more about it.

I was like, no time. I have to go. But she, like, visits, too. I mean, she never visited the scuff house, but she's visited here, like, three or four or five times. So does your mom ever come here? Mm-hmm. I know your, my mom sometimes offers to come here, but I just told her, like, there's

nothing really to do here. Yeah. Like, she'll come to events, too, and, like, I'll see her there. when she wants to really see me but yeah my brother was just here for the last event that was like the first event it was like the first event I was actually like spent like with my brother like at an event

he ruined with me like yeah gave him the whole experience I mean it was fine because I feel like when you're an event you want to like lock in you don't want to know you don't want to have to entertain no like me my brother get along like super well like he's a lot like me like page said y'all are exactly yeah like she was like it was fucking weird

because I felt like I was talking to Matt. Dude, she was, yeah, Paige was, like, been annoying. But, uh, uh, uh, our last, our last, she was, our last guess. Um, but yeah, my brother, he's super cool. Like, he's, like, five years older, so, like, it's cool to show him, like, the shit that I've always, like, kind of wanted to show him, because we played video games together. And, like, he's the only reason I really started playing Halo, to be honest. Like, he had the Xbox. He had the Xbox, he had Xbox, too. Yeah. He had Xbox Live. So it was, like... What'd you have to do to, to, like... To bribe him to give you some fucking Xbox time? I used to have to, like, I used to

like because like I mean like he'd be sleeping and shit like when he was awake he didn't want me in his room just like an older brother little brother thing right so like I was like fuck it so like I'd have to wake up at like I'd set an alarm for like 2 a.m right and I would like go I would go into his room sometimes with like a cold coke because that was like my like little bribe to him like I'd sneak in put it on his desk and then just like turn the Xbox on and then turn the the volume all the way down and play like team snipers from like 2 a.m. to like 5 a.m. and then get off and like go back to bed. But it was just so fun. Like, I'm, like, fucking 10 years old, 8 years

old. Just, like, loving it. But, yeah, that was my, like, first and, like, Halo 2 experience with my little voice mask on and, like, talking shit to people. We were talking about it a little before how, well, I was, because Hitchbts over here playing, like, Black Ops 2, and I was like, dude, I just...

I haven't played a video game in, like, three months. And I feel like... Yeah. And I feel, like, I have... Not even streaming. R.R. Streaming. Oh, really? But, like, even... I'm not... When I was gaming, I could play every day. Just fucking Halo get pounded or something.

But like with IRL streaming, it's like I got to sort of figure something out. And it's sort of became a hassle. Like I tried getting like an IRL bike stream. Like literally me and Matt set it up. Like I had a whole fucking like tripod sticking out from my bicycle trying to stream and shit. And it was just the biggest fail. Wait, wait, why did it fail? How we set it up.

the it's hard to explain but like this would be upwards and as I'm riding I'm going over bumps and this is just falling more and more and it's this would like be holding my camera and it just would keep falling through because there's so many cracks wobbling and tweaking yeah and then like the sun just makes my phone overheat oh dude I can't imagine there's got to be something for that iRal streaming has been uh it's been too who's streaming at target it's been kind of just like looking at the aisles Like, would you guys buy this? I was walking home from yoga one time, and I saw AP. I was IRRR streaming and APG is walking out.

Fresh as fuck. Like, he's got some good drip, bro. He was, he was in like, thank God you found, you got me today. It was just seeing what he got. Why is that, Brad's voice? But yeah. I were all streaming a little bit. And I don't know.

I just have no fucking, I don't know. You're talking about like Halo 2. It's just like, God, man. I used to just want to sit down and fucking play. It's because it's like when your IRL streaming, it's kind of like you're doing YouTube again, but like live without editing. It was kind of nice.

It was like not, it was fucking annoying. Holding my phone like this is really fucking annoying. Like tires my shoulder. And like I'd have to carry mofies and stuff, but it was definitely less stressful. But like, I definitely am going to have to figure out a balance

between like gaming and IRL streaming. and I don't know, just here in A-Lo, too, and it's just like, God, I don't get that feeling at all anymore. Yeah, I don't know if it's because, like, we've grown up or something, or if the games are just different,

but... I think it's just... I think it's growing up, though. Yeah. You can only do shit for so long. Because I feel like some... I feel like kids out there right now are, like, getting that same feeling

with, like, Valorant or, like, Apex, or, like, you know? Like, they're, like, playing those and getting the same feeling that we had, like, just, like, addicted on 12 hours a day. Yeah. Like, neglecting their home...

God, dude. eight and they get to start with Fortnite I don't know if that's gonna be good for the brain imagine being nine years old and playing vowel you check your shop every day

the dragon vandals in the shop mom please that's gonna fuck please $20 I'm like look at us we did that like we're pretty fucked up right

yeah I mean I had Halo too and that's like it's like starting your drug use with crack and then like yeah you know exactly

it really is even like Halo 3 I got I feel like I got spoiled like Halo 3 like theater vote co-off campaign custom games like the late night customs the matchmaking like then you get Halo 4

and it's like what the fuck my shit's lace now and it's like it's just not hitting the same yeah you're like you know what I'm saying you know what you're saying I know I know I just can't do you enjoy do you get that feeling anymore what?

Wait, you don't, you grind. With anything? I get it from like... I feel like if you start a new game, you... I've been playing World of Warcraft a little bit, and, like, at first that was like Crack. Like, World Warcraft is Crack. Wait, you started, because we played... Oh, is that a year or two ago?

I thought it was Diablo this whole time. No. I know we played a little for a year or two, but of course you just, you were grinding hard as fuck. Yeah. And then did you, you just recently started again? Yeah. And, I mean, it was like crack at first.

I'm a little more over it now, but it was like, yeah, dude, World Warcraft is like a drug. That shit can hook you for like a couple months, a couple weeks. Like it'll get you bad. Are you grinding Halo at all anymore? Yeah. Like I mean, we stream every day. Like just scrimms or like do you grind? No, I play matchmaking too.

I'm like Onyx, whatever. But like, I mean, it's like my matchmaking experience just isn't really fun. It's just like dick riding, getting teabagged by like everyone, getting stream sniped. Kids probably are just like playing me with the volume on on my stream. Like, and then they come in on just blasting drink, not even like paying attention. and they're like, God, this isn't dopamine. And they're like, fuck. You're trying so hard to, like, not give any sort of,

not even notice that you match, just played a game. Yeah. I'll get shit on and just be like, oopsies. Like, just not give a fuck, no reaction. Dude, Halo Infinite gives no fucking dope anymore. It did it first. Halo Infinite at first gave a lot of dopamine. And then I think the first thing I killed it was like the cheaters.

Remember that hiding guy? You used to like stream snipe me and cheat. And it was just like, okay. That was like the first killer. And then, like, everyone stopped playing the game. And then, yeah, but I mean, it was fun at first. Do you think if this BR actually comes out ever that it'll give any... Damn, I mean.

Both of you guys take the same thing. Yeah, right? Because, like, dude, like... I'm just sick of hearing shit. Yeah, right? Yeah, great. I would love a BR. But, like, come on. I mean, dude, I don't expect a BR to be...

I mean, it's Halo infinite. Like, it's gonna... It's infinite. All right? There's no other Halo in the works. Okay? Like, this VR could come out 10 years. from now and people will be like well yeah it's Halo

Infinite like what do you expect and I mean it's just it is what it is right it could be awesome and they can also come out with one and they could be shit like they could just fuck it up there could be cheaters there could just like yeah I have no expectations anymore if it happens it happens

that's how I would call it dude whatever they can come out they can I don't know I just have no like you said expectations for it I'm not excited yeah just like I'm not I just feel I feel you dude I feel you guys broke up with the same girl. It's just like if I get on tomorrow and it says like ranked arena,

Battle Royale ranked and you're like, oh, what the hell? I'll play it. But then like, am I going to expect it to be godlike? No. Like, I'm just going to play it and then be like, yeah, it was pretty cool. I don't know. They have to clutch up on that. Yeah, but like, do you think there's someone hard at work right now making a BR at that

fucking studio? Like really right now think about it. Someone like putting in a code. What else could they fucking be doing? Playing on the couch and being like, I mean, they don't really give a fuck. like they're bitching but like I don't really care they kind of accepted the game shit like I don't got to like really

I would love like someone to just like vlog in like the 3 4 3 studio we're active just like what's everyone doing? I was like what are you guys doing playing vowel like I wonder if they hear this though and they're just like God they're so fucking stupid yes for sure they do

100% they're grinding just like trying to like keep it up I don't even know what they're keeping it doing it would just take so much It's running. It would take so much to bring, like, a resurgence of player base back. Like, when a game comes out and there's a big, big, big drop off, like, what would you have to do in order to bring people back? Because at that point, if you just fix the game, it's already good.

The BR is the only hope. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Because I feel like they did a pretty good job with Mouse and Key making that more viable and usable. Dude, I was playing against a kid last event that was using Mouse and Key, or like two events ago. Like I was setting my shit up At the event Yeah at the event Like one of the AM teams or something in pools

Like I'm like setting my shit up I look across he's setting his mouse and keyboard up And it's like a sick ass mouse and keyboard too I was just like what the hell Like it was like I don't know like some ultra lights from shit And like I was thinking like I'm kind of shook It's got to make eye contact with me through the monitors not once Wait you were playing against him

Yeah I forget what his name was But he was uh I was looking at my teammates like Yeah I'm kind of like I'm kind of shook We can get shown by like a mouse keyboard player That'd be kind of insane no And like I mean like imagine just like a Korean team comes out of nowhere. Mousin key sits across from you for like

somehow BXRing like on the new game. Don't miss a snipe. Dude, yeah, I was kind of shook. But I mean, like, yeah, he was, I mean, it wasn't that crazy. We'd just kind of be dumb. Yeah, they just, they choked in the beginning by not all keyboard and all the big streamers

that use keyboard and mouse. Like they got to play. Everyone's super hype about it. But it just felt like shit. It was like they could not, you just couldn't keep up with mouse and key. And then they eventually they fixed it. it was too fucking late.

Everything takes forever. Yeah. Kids don't get banned right away. The wildest thing was the vacation that three-for-three took. I'll never understand that. Like the game came out in November, and then they all took a vacation in December to January. Really?

It was something like that. I was like, we're out of office. I think I kind of remember that. I don't blame them. Just because, well, okay, I don't blame them, and I also don't support it. Like, picture work on something for that long, And then, like, it comes out and everyone loves it.

And you kind of just get to, like, sit back and relax and enjoy, like, the tipping for a little bit, right? Just like, and then you're like, let's go on vacation because I just worked, like, for three years. But at the same time, there's another side that, like, like, you should keep the game going and keep the hype into it. So you should work a little bit harder for a little bit longer. I get it. Like, that's the most important part, I think. It's like, as soon as the game comes out. Yeah.

Once it's at a stable place, then take your break. Right. Like, if you're playing Valorne or something right now, like, it's on a stable place. Right. Right. It's not really anything going crazy. but yeah, I got what you're saying. And they come back like during the next season or the next bundle.

And everything's on fire. It's like, what the fuck happened? Everyone's God. Everyone's God. Play war zone again. Yeah. Like the Grinch came through the whole fucking game. But I mean, shit.

I mean, it's like, it is what it is, right? It's like, I don't know. Yeah. We'll see. I don't think there's ever been a hit scan BR ever. And I know we're just like. I don't know if it'd be like that. It kind of does no way. It kind of has to be.

But like, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it's perfect with the shields. Like, the game has shields built in. Like, it'd be great. But like I said, dude, if you're expecting a viewer to come out with it, like, the next, like, I'd say fucking five years. Really? I'd call you faded.

Yeah. Really? Yeah. I was thinking, like, because. I don't know. I have really low expectations, bro. I really do. I really do.

I get that. I wish I didn't. I'm trying to, like, convince myself, like, 2024. Yeah. But, like, that's not even a thought in your head. Oh, no. A good. are coming out in 24? No. They might throw

something out just to like try to save the game. Is this even a real fucking Halo or is still a beta? Throw it on the campaign map? It's still a beta, bro. Like, what does that mean? Like I got on the screen the other day and I saw like, I'm like 2200 onics, right? I get on and then like Sparty, I'm like screaming in Sparty. He's like 2900

and I'm just like, what the fuck? And I'm just like, wait, that doesn't fucking mean anything. Never mind. What the fuck? Like, why are we still like? Rank just mean nothing. Like, it just means nothing. And I just don't like get it. And I I don't get the... Do you have fun scrimming anymore?

I do have fun screaming. How have you been really well, actually? How have you been the last six months? Well, to be honest, like the last two events, I like could have been a better teammate. Really? Yeah. I like, I mean, I just, it was hard not to get complacent just because, like, we had just won a worlds. And then we came back and won the first event as well.

And then it was like the dream hack event. And then that was kind of a checkout and the last event. Like, I could have played a lot better. Could have, like, tried a lot harder. Just like, I mean. I mean, it is what it is, but, like, the past week or two, like, we had a big talk after the event, similar to how we had after Kansas City last year. And it's good. It's really good.

It's like, we need to lock the fuck back in. Yeah, pretty much. When you say you could have been a better teammate, do you mean, like, before the event as far as, like, practice? Yeah, yeah, practice and just, like, at the event, just like, I mean, like, dude, we were, like, when we would lose a match, like, I was just like, eh, fuck it. Like, and that's just not really that good. It's like how I want to be You feel like usually you're like the After a loss or something

You guys go backstage and it's like When you're on your shit you got something to say Yeah like Tommy talks a lot Like Tommy probably talks the most It's just like but when I talk like It's usually something really important Yeah like if I start talking like all the heads turn You know what I mean

It's like because like if I have something to say When you speak they will really listen Yeah because like they just know I'm not gonna like say some bullshit shit or like say some shit that doesn't matter like it's i don't talk that much but when i do talk it's pretty important and like Tommy handles most like the in-game stuff because like you know he's he's like really nerdy with everything and like knows all the ins and outs of the game so like we usually look to him for like certain things but yeah just like overall like mentality stuff like that i mean it's usually what i do but i thought about this earlier you've been going to event since

2010 right 2009 was my first event damn but like i didn't go to another event until 2011 so i went to And I was thinking 2010 was your first event and then you like disappeared and then you went pro in 2011. Yeah, like I went to 2009 Anaheim only because it was like 20 minutes away. And then like a part of me was, it's crazy too because like I could have very easily just went off and like to high school. Because I was like a sophomore at the time or a freshman. And like I could have very easily just like knock on to another event. Like very easily. Where would that?

Where would you have went? Because instead you came back and you've been playing for fucking 12 more. pro years which is kind of crazy that's what i'm saying it is crazy like the ripple effect that it took where it could i could have very well been you know like finished out high school not touch halo again really got sucked in like the party life and like being friends with everyone and all that shit and then like try to go to college and then like i mean who you ever wish like i mean this fucking this shit worked out pretty well about as good as it can go yeah um do you ever like wish you experienced like i've talked about that i'd never

got to experience like the college experience. Yeah, I do feel like I missed out on that. Like, just like the partying. You ever wish you, not wish, but like you just think about it. Like, where the fuck would I have? Like, what the fuck? You think you would have just like went to college or did you, you didn't go to any college at all, right?

I went to community college for about a week. Nice. And I remember I raised my hand. I raised my hand and asked to go to the bathroom and the future kind of like laughed at it and like smirked. And it was like, you don't kind of fucking ask. Like, and I was like, all right, bet. Just never went back.

And then like, For like two months, I was telling my dad I was going and just lying. Were you, when you started college, were you into Halo? Yeah, no, no, no. When I started, when I started college, call duty goes just came out. Like, that's not a good deal. Yeah, and then I was playing that, obviously, and trying to go to events and that. So I just kind of decided, like, this isn't really for me.

So I just kind of left and then told my dad. And my dad was really understanding, to be honest, like, he just, um. Which is kind of surprised. without like successful he is yeah I mean like he just looked at my mom I remember like the way that he said to my mom too was like it was just really understanding like he was just like I mean it's not for everyone right honey like that type of thing and I was just like yes your mom's crying and shit I wasn't crying which she was just like yelling at me like what the fuck's wrong with you like what are you doing and I was just like no trust I'm a GoPro trust there's something special

I'm gonna be a multi-giver like didn't mean shit to them back then but like yeah I mean you have any idea what you would have done um college Were you thinking like? I wasn't, I didn't really have a plan. I remember in high school. Like towards the last like a couple months, you know, everyone's kind of committing to colleges, right? And like, I'm at parties and like, okay,

growing up in SoCal, so just, growing up in SoCal, you just got to learn how to just be like socially manipulating, okay? Like, I'm just going to just say that. You just have to. And then you came in the halo scene. If you're from Sokale, you have to manipulate. Yeah.

This is a big part of its success. People were really judgmental in SoCal, okay? Orange County, like, dude, it's like, can't get much more judgment. Is it just because it's like a rich area? Probably. I mean, like, I went to private school. Like, I mean, probably. Like, all my friends' moms were like on that real housewives of Orange County show.

Like that type of shit. Yeah. So I'm at parties. I remember all my, this is the only time I ever really felt left out is because my friends are all wearing like their fucking college hoodies, like where they're going to go. And I'm like playing beer pong with someone. And I'm just like, yo, Boulder bros. Like, you know what I have no. I have no like plan to go to Boulder.

and I'm just lying and I'm just saying like I'll see someone else and be like Ducks, Oregon baby like you know what I mean Just like just lying But I was remember like

sipping my beer after like saying something and being like God I feel so left out You were that kind of kid sort of I mean Not really like

Dushy frat But I can definitely see you as You just had to play the game It was just like part of it Join up and soka you like had to Or else like You would just get left behind

Not getting invited to shit So like you just kind of just You know Did you have any anything in mind is like a career besides gaming but when people ask me now when people ask me now

I think I would have I think I could be a good therapist I think you could I actually do I think I find it interesting the way that people like I would just like want to see what makes people tick

what makes them do certain things say certain things feel certain way just because like it's interesting I feel like when I talk about that stuff to you it's like do you listen yeah because I actually want to see like

why you're saying certain things you're saying and why you feel the way you're saying it or I'd want to be like a veterinarian or some shit apart from like the putting dogs down part like I don't think I could do that but I would like to like bandage one up and like send him on his way type shit you know I just got a dog did you what kind uh it's a husky mix with we're thinking like some kind of shepherd did you rescue lab yeah he was found in a fucking trash shoot holy shit like an apartment yeah that's Crazy. And then...

Dude, what kind of evil person? Me and Michelle, my girlfriend. How's that going? Actually, this is the... I don't want to talk about my relationship on here, but it's the best relationship that I think I've been in. I don't know you guys that well, but I feel the same way.

Like not... We both like disappearing from any socialness for like weeks, but then it's just like, let's go in a bender today. And that kind of just works with it. me yeah that's kind of how you are yeah um but yeah it's going really well that's good we pretty much live with each other no dramatic useless low IQ arguments no like no like i feel like every girl it's just like hey or you walk in they're just like hi and you're like what's fucking wrong and then you have to have that whole talk every girl kind of has that a little bit but like this is just not as much

is what I've experienced before. So it's pretty good. But anyway, we got a, I don't even want to say we adopted him because even now I'm still like, I don't know about this little fucker. Maybe we can find him at home somewhere. What?

Back to the trash shoe. Yeah, what the fuck? Because my Michelle's friend, she found her at the apartment she worked for. She found Chewy, the dog at the apartment she worked for. She kept it. for like three weeks and it was like i have to find it at home told michelle about it and i was like let's go over and look at it we go over and look at it and i was just like god he's perfect

and then just a little papy puppy and it's just like this what this is maybe this is what i needed and so we i was like all right i don't want a dog but we can like try this out let's take him home see if it's easy i don't you want a dog if it works it works i feel like you would be a dog guy kind kind of um but michel already had one dog mylo who's like four so i was like let's take chui we named him chui let's take chui home see if he gets along with myel and it literally and if it goes well then like sure fuck it and we bring him back and it couldn't have gone worse like all they do is fight all not fight but like chui's trying to like puppy bite him milo can't stand him milo just wants nothing to do with him he has this screeching bar

that he does and it's just it pierces your ears and it happens a hundred times a day and they just fight over toys and he pisses and he shits and he train them train him and be patient with him then he bites and he's so we've like i've been looking at youtube videos like give a solid effort like when i'm just like laying in bed looking at tic-tok and i just hear like a yelp from downstairs i'm like it just like scares me a little bit no i get that it's just it's fuck and it happens all the time and it's so But I mean, you got to think, bro, if a dog got thrown down on trash shoe, it's probably, probably had a horrible experience. Yeah. It was, it's probably why it's like, I get the thoughts of like, God, like, almost wanting to like, not give up on him, but it's just like, I don't know if I need this stress.

Like, I didn't. No, I mean, like, maybe the dog doesn't need that stress either. Maybe you should help him, you know? I am. No, you're not. Yes, I am. Trust me. I have been.

I just have to. Shut up. Be my fucking therapist. He is being a therapist. he's telling you what to do I'm treating him very well and he loves his life but God

it's fucking trestful I just got approved for a greyhound adoption so I'm gonna be in a greyhound pretty really big you can keep in the civic uh no well we're about to looking at houses and stuff

so that should be that should be really fun a greyhound you need a can that be well I guess if you get house it'll be better. Well, greyhounds are actually like ex-race dogs because kind of

what I'm looking for is like retired race dogs. They're actually like super chill. Yeah. Because they're race the fuck out. They're done. Yeah, they're so tired. They're like, I put in my time. Like, I'm ready to lay on the couch now. What do you want to greyhound? I just think they're beautiful. And I like the idea of

like adopting a dog rather than a puppy. Because adopting a dog and especially a dog that's already put in his work. I didn't I didn't know of the puppy phase. He's run. He's won his money for people. He's ready to retire. Like, that's kind of, I feel like that's kind of cool.

Yeah. And plus, I've been running and stuff. So, like, if I ever wanted to take him for a jog, even though apparently Greyhounds don't like jogging, they're either like, they're 100 or nothing. I want to run as fast as possible or I want to just lay on the couch. I heard it's not good to run with your dog because the pace is so weird. Like, they either have to go, like, slow, walkie or like.

Or, like, you're dragging them. Yeah. It's just like an awkward pace for them. something. Do you ever, I feel like you're an animal sort of lover. What about, do you ever think of getting a cat dog?

Well, honestly, when I was hanging out with you a lot, I was considering getting a cat. Just because. They're so easy. That's what I'm saying. And I'm like, yeah,

it'd be much easier, but like I do plan on getting like a set of dogs, like three. But like it's when I get a house though. Yeah. I wouldn't do it in an apartment just because I would like want them to have like a really cool backyard

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into easily manageable payment plan. Back to the podcast. Do you have a plan of the next few years? I do want to get a house. It's just hard because like if we're up to me, if like in a perfect world,

the HQ is in California. And we all live in California. Right. And California is awesome. And I think we'd all like it. But I don't think that's possible. So, I mean, I can plop out of house here and just, you know, I don't know. I guess we'll have to see.

But I do plan on getting a house. I'm kind of over like the apartment life. And, you know, I feel like I'm ready for that next step in my life. So we'll see. Yeah, that's kind of how I am. I'm looking for a house around here, but also Alexis has already has a house in Arizona. So I'm thinking about going over there for a little, for, you know, like a month at a time or something. And I don't know, figure it out, feel what, I mean, a bunch of people are moving to, Matt just moving to a house.

Matt, is it, do you move into a house or apartment? Why? Okay. Just to be, like, closer to Dallas? Oh, shit, really? You're way farther from downtown? Now you're an hour and a half away instead of 45 miles from that. What?

Wait, how long our drive is up? I thought you move closer. Dude, how hard do you work? Like, holy shit. Bro, just to set this up, Matt, see the fucking, I don't know what that's called, the little wheel. The dolly? Dolly.

He's fucking lugging in chairs and couches and he fucking had this in the truck of his, or the bed of his truck. Yeah. Shout out of course, by the way. Probably the hardest work I've ever seen. Probably the hardest work I've ever seen. He is a hard work. You got to think, like, I wonder if Matt's going to cry whenever the hex quarters is going.

This is, this is the Matt Craig quarters. Yeah, I mean, more than anything. It's fucking obvious, but we're in the hex quarters right now. First time I've been here and I think I did a photo shoot like three or four months ago or something. But besides that, I haven't actually sat in here and like hung out. And I would say since like last year. I like the quiet. I'm not going to lie.

Yeah. Yeah. I really do. Like, I don't really know how it is at the downtown office. office but like it's definitely quiet like the corporate is here and then you walk through a private door and there's sort of yeah it's sick man definitely like if I walk past someone and I feel like they don't know who I am that's gonna piss me off no we're all here and no because last time we were there it's a lot different that's what I'm saying oh is it the last time yeah I'm guarantee you everyone there knows

who you are was it because everybody got fired uh there was there's there's been been a lot of changes, I think. So I feel weird walking around, like, not knowing people, but it's just like, you both look at each other. It's just like, not like an egotistical, like, you better know who I am. It's just like a, we're all an optic together. Like, we should

know each other, like type of thing, you know? Yeah. It's definitely a different vibe than this. We should do a video or we sit down. This was the closest of the close. Yeah. Everyone hung out together. Yeah, one big living room. Like, it wasn't too close to where like your mic is picking up everything I'm saying and

blah blah blah but it was like if i wanted to talk to you it was literally 10 steps on over yeah every once in a while people were coming to my chat and you're like shut up matt's trying to play oh really shit bro i know i this never me i promise i can't even really hear you that much from playing i know people people used to i used to get annoyed sometimes you were you were next you're i don't know what it is because i'm pretty like you were annoying just because you wouldn't stop bitching like it was never just like an okay stream isn't it crazy how that's been going on since 2004 yeah it's like your only appeal. Like you just have to scream and rage and get shit on.

It's almost like I don't. The worst of feel ever. You can't just be chill and shitting on people? Like, it's a much better. I feel like I kind of maybe used to a little bit. Maybe raging forever. You were literally known to be like the rage. I really have.

You hysteria and fucking. Just like a complainer. I don't know if I raged as much back then. I think it kind of flipped. Back then I would. complain, but it wasn't necessarily rage. And now I just fucking rage. Yeah.

For no fucking reason either. But yeah, I remember playing over here and just, Hacks would be like, like, I would actually like, I die with sniper. I'm like, fucking, why the fuck? Are you fucking there? And then I shut up. Hex would yell at me and I was like,

wow, that just really made me mad. Like, I remember one time I was like, you shut the fuck up. And I was like, I don't know, stuff like that used to stress me out a little bit. But it was some great memories. Did I ever tell you what happened when I was playing OnlyUp? Uh-uh. So we're playing Only Up.

I had never played a game like that, like Jump King or Only Up or Getting Over at nothing like that. So we just, we start playing. Blake George and I all start at the same time and try to beat it. So Blake beats it and he's just kind of like watching George and I. George George is getting George is getting farther and farther And I keep

I keep messing up at this one spot And I had Did either one of you play? I haven't played it I watched it Yeah I've watched it It's the anime girl jump

You have to make this like Super far jump Okay And I miss it And then when you miss it You got to go back like 20 minutes And then you work you way back up And I got

I missed it three times I did Nick play that Dude I haven't touched it It would be the best stream If you played it Take you like a month to complete Or I just never can beat it I'm just that pathetic

But then you go viral Because you can't be it And then the one time I beat it's just a super viral Clip Yeah So I miss it for the fourth time And like I don't know like I did some like Introspective thinking after this happened

Because I didn't know what was going on In my life to make me act this way But I I missed it the third The fourth time And I grabbed my mouse And my mouse was It was charging, so it was still plugged in.

And I went to go throw it. I threw it on the ground. It bounced, went over the trophies and landed behind here. And then when I turned back to my monitor, the wire from the mouse had ripped up and hit the monitor. And the monitor was shattered. Oh, my God. And I went, uh, I just broke my monitor. This was on stream.

It's that white monitor over there. Is I here for that? I don't think so. Okay. I think you would have probably turned around. I would have been like, what the hell? But I was like shaking. I was so mad.

And then I was like, what is wrong with me? Yeah. Like, why did I just do that to you? Just like, what it would do to him? Oh, dude. Just genuine rage? Like, not even like, I'm streaming.

No, no, no. I am really pissed off. It was just Chuck. I didn't even get like a good, like, clip out of it. The clip, like, the clip, like, I wish I would have, like, punched my monitor, like, really, like, lean.

Just like, you just, like, sat back down just, like, kind of embarrassed while also raging. Right. But I literally, like, you see, like, the, It's like post nut clarity happened But like post rage and I was just like Were you like embarrassed? Yes

I was streaming And then Blake and George was like I'm trying to save it and like make it a clip Like just joke like not like just joking But just like God I like this game I don't know I think I tried You were too filled with genuine rage But it was genuine rage

And then I like thought I like Got home and I was like maybe I should like Talk to a doctor Like maybe I just get some like anti-anxiety That's crazy something Yeah, Nick, maybe you shouldn't play that game. Yeah, don't play it. Probably won't.

But maybe. Did you beat it? Yeah, I eventually beat it. Was the dopamine worth? No. Okay. Took too long? Yeah.

I felt that way, just the other day, my, I've stopped vaping and smoking and all that, but I'm a fucking idiot. So I bought a Delta 8 pen. And then. It's not stopping smoking. I'll just hit it at, I'll hit it at night sometimes, but my dog was chewing it up. My, like, girlfriend was standing there, like, folding laundry or something, and I just see Chewy chewing it up on the bed. Like, what?

His name is Chewy. Yeah. I see Chewy chewing up my fucking shit on the bed, and I grabbed it. I was like, what the fuck? Fucking waste of money. And my girlfriend was just like, like, the first time she's ever saw me rage, and I was just like, uh. Just kidding.

Sorry, I forgot. I was just like, gosh, fuck. I'm just so tired of buying these. It was, like, genuinely fucking embarrassing. When I was a kid, when I was a kid, I used to take my Xbox controllers, like, take it by the wire. Like, I'd be playing a free for all with Killer N. Just like, D-riding so hard. Gee-G, close one.

Like, sending a message and shit trying to get on his list after. And I'm just, like, getting seventh place. Just bashing my fucking controller in the ground. Like, breaking my mics. Like, it used to be bad. I was a fucking rager. And I don't do that anymore. Do you remember, like, do you remember?

I remember like, I used to, like, having a good friends list is a pretty unspoken talking them, like talking about time. Yeah. Because it was super important to, I think, every single player. Then it was limited, too. Yeah, 100, 100 spots. And the more pros you have, dude, how many friends did you remove to get, to replace it with a pro?

Like, so many. And then motherfuckers would notice, too. Fuck yeah, what? If they get on and see 99, it's immediately you go down your list and see who removed you, you know? Yeah. Who was the first pro that added you? Killer N.

Really? So you wrote him to victory? That's good. I don't know why. I was like just a random person that like somehow got in the fucking lobby. I'm pretty sure he removed me shortly after. You remember how Roy had, his name was like TNB Roy, but it was with a zero. Do you remember that?

I think I remember. Yeah. Okay. So like I matched him in matchmaking and I'm like 13. I'm in like, I'm like teabagging them just trying to get his attention. I'm just like, be friends with me. Like, you know, just like shooting his body and shit. And I sent him a message everything.

I'm like, one v1. And Roy's so fucking competitive. He was just like, sure. I'm surprised he did that. And I was just like, what the fuck? So I play him. Like, what was this reach? Is Halo 3.

We play Guardian. And I'm not going to lie. I'm like fucking him up. Like, bad enough to where he is like, Roy's such a nice guy too. Like, he's not like getting like heard about it and talking shit to me. Like, he's just like, dude, you're actually pretty raw. Like, and he's like, hang on. Let me remove someone.

Let me add you. Like, we can play magic. drinking some time and I'm just maxedoped up like okay like so happy and like I remember I didn't think it was him at first because there was a zero because he had like R-O-Y but his was a zero but the fake was a was no yeah so like the zero I thought I didn't know that I thought it was flip-flop obviously so when he added me I was like yeah I had the real rely on my list I think and then like I don't remember how else I started meeting people I mean I was just riding my way up but like I just remember all the times when I'm like yeah I'm gonna quit this fucking

fucking game. I'm not going to go like party and shit. And I'm just going down my list and like, I can't remove him though. I can't remove him. Like, just thinking that about like 30 feet and then I'm just like, fuck, my list stayed the same. Like, I was removing so many people that I was like playing Hyl Through with since the start, like locals. I'm removing, that's the one that hurts. When you remove like a local for a pro, you get message, you get texted. You know, he's your local. He's got your number. Like texting, texting and calling you fake and shit is like a different type of hurt.

And you're just like, it's not even like that. And then like, like. I mean, like, but you're thinking like, nah, do it again. Like, fuck it. Like, having a good list back then was crazy. Because when you looked at someone's list and it was like, Godlike, you'd be like, what the fuck? This guy has to be someone. I hated seeing like average people with like goat tiered friends.

I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. Fucking, fucking. I used to go on people's like, like, call a dude pro's list and then like find someone that I didn't recognize and be like, who is this guy? And then I look at his friend's list and be like, oh, he's like no one. Like you might probably paid to get on there. Yeah.

Something like that. Wait, who was your first? The first person who added me? Did you chase the cod pros? A lot of, it started with cod snipers. What was the first dopamine friend request? When did you see a pop-ups? Stainville added me after a G.B?

No, no, no, no. Sorry, not Stainville, for play. Wait, for a GB? After the GB. Like, good shit, you're good? No. Oh. Like, he sent me a friend request to invite me, and I accepted the friend request.

Okay. Okay. Still, still, the dopamine was there. Okay, I could see it. I could see it. That was pretty sick. That was in Monofer 3. That was pretty sick.

For a GV had to add you. Did he remove you after? Who knows, man? You don't even check after that. No, you don't. It would pop up and say like, you got the dopamine from seeing it pop up. Exactly.

Got it. For play and Vs online. I'm just like, yeah, I mean, that's cool. I'm screaming later tonight, too. Yeah. But I would add like, I don't think I actually, I don't even remember anymore. But obviously I didn't chase as much as you guys. But I was, I would chase like, like snipers at the time, like Folsom and like like all

Pomage's friends and stuff like that. I never liked Pomage though. But, you know, it's funny how it works out. Right, right. Or when you start going to events and people were recognizing you? I do remember the first time I got. or Ogre 2 is walk up.

T squared or something at the doctor of ever booth you're just like what the hell just like do that to each other

I remember like like the second wave of um so like not the adding part but I remember when I first joined the cod scene when I left my halo my initial like team

of Halo pros and it was me snake bite enable and ace um I messaged basically every single pro like in the cod community to team with me

really? Yeah Like, I'm sure if any of them go back, anyone that played ghost at that time that was decent, like, anyone that was on, like, Unite, Curse LV, curse N.I. Like, all those people. And I was messaging them saying, like, hey, like, give me a shot. I promise I'm going to be fucking good. And just got egoed by so many of them, you know? And then, like, I think that's what made me, like, really just want to fucking, like, shit on all of them. Yeah. You know? Like, some of them would give me, like, a decent response. You know, like, I remember, like, Spacely. I was like, yo, like, there's not a spot right now, but, like, I'm definitely down to, like, try. Like, like, you're. discussing blah blah and like i wonder how many of them have thought about it like or like they've been in a call by themselves and i'm like bro i should just picked up formal like yeah i've always i always kind of wondered like it seems like especially during the vision days like the the dynasty team maybe later dynasty team actually now the early early dynasty team too you you had you and set where you kind of coat you kind of pride yourself on coaching set and to have like a killer mentality

where he like yeah in 2017 like hated people yeah i was sick of seeing him going to events and like fucking being buddy buddy with all the kids that are beating us. And like, I just didn't like that. And like, yeah, I kind of brought out a different side of him where we just started talking shit to everyone. Do you, did you, I haven't seen that side of you in Halo. Is it because? Well.

But maybe it does exist. No, no, no. It does exist. It does exist. It's just a lot more moderate now. Like, I mean, like, talking shit is just whatever. Like, I mean, we were young. It was fun.

Right, right. Nowadays, dude, like, I can't even, like, have someone talk shit to me to where, like, I take it seriously enough to want to talk shit back. Yeah. Like, for real. Like, I just can't. And then it's whatever. But like to my team when we're talking and shit, like I just instill like little things,

you know, like just trying to like steer them on the right way and not do dumb shit and not, you know, do like the just like the am shit. That's what I would like refer to it. It's just am shit. And you just can't do that. And you just have to understand if you want to keep winning and like be like an intimidating winner. You just have to do certain things.

And like once you have it, you'll understand it. You know, but it has to be taught at first, you know. and didn't like no one really taught to me so like when you walk on when you walk on stage and you like on at the halo stage you look at your opponent is this it's still just like because in I don't I mean I don't know

if people really recognize it but like the IW year blackups three and IW year it was like every time you walked in stage you wanted you wanted to like demoralize the other station in that year and just see like fear and then the other team dies like they'd be like actually scared to play us like yeah I just knew like remember there was that Atlanta

where we were Damon got the 1 v1 versus panda yeah we played like fucking six more teams after that and all six of them had the same look on their face like holy shit these guys aren't even like losing maps anymore like we just went like 30 30 30 30 LG envy like all these people all the way to the final win the first best of five like that event like I've never seen so much fear and like people's like eyes as I'm like sitting down on station two because it's like we're like losers like fucking quarters yeah you know and they're just like holy shit these guys are these guys they beat panda what the I thought they were at five two like you know right just like that like fear it's like I don't know, it's dopamine, you know?

Yeah. And then you just three o them and then you just get up GGs. Don't even like talk to them. You're just gone. They're just like, what the fuck just happened? It's like, I mean, all that does something to someone, you know, they're not going to want to play you again, obviously. Right.

So I think there's a certain way to win. There's a certain way to lose that you can just, you know, you can keep everyone like, I don't know, where you want them. Did you ever do that? What? He was a shit talker, I think. Yeah? I was a shit talker in the beginning until I started getting cracked out of my mind.

then I would just like win I never knew you in your shit talk I never knew you in your shit talk I just get three in me like jeez oh my gosh wait what were you all talking about talking shit?

We were talking about like yeah just like the mentality I asked him I asked him if like the killer mentality that that the dynasty team had specifically him and Seth because Ian kind of went back and forth and Damon just was always high

it seemed. He's all just double fisting the apes. But it seemed like, like they, like, especially that Blackups 3 in IW year, it just seemed like they wanted to demoralize. That was such a good fucking feeling, wasn't it? To just, I was saying. I just like, see. Feel like the man.

Every event. But the reason I asked. The reason I asked is because you told me, he told, while you were gone, he told me that he hit up all these people whenever he first got into Call of Duty and some people just never hit him back. And he always wondered, like. you know, should I have just team with formal? And then he, like, made it a purpose to, like, shit on them.

And that's, like, that's kind of the feeling and the vibe you had going into Call of Duty. Like, that was your first Call of Duty initial experience. But Halo was, Halo, even when you were playing Cod at the highest level, it always felt like Halo was your home, even from, like, just knowing you, I guess. Because, like, you would finish scrimms and then we would go watch Nick play. Or, Nick, we were watching. Yeah, I mean, Halo is always going to have a special place in my heart. Like, yeah.

I played the Cods, right? I played like the MW2s, the MW3 is with high school friends, but not like you guys did. You know, like, I know you guys grinded it the way I grinded Halo 3. And I appreciate that. I respect that. Like, we just both picked our game, whatever. And I'm sure you guys played Halo 3 casually. It's just like, it's whatever.

But yeah, Halo was like my childhood, basically. So it's always going to be special to me. And like, Cod was fun. Don't get me wrong. Cod was fun. It just, it just doesn't hit me the same way Halo does. Yeah. It's a lot easier to go into a scene and, like,

I mean, trying to think of who are legends, like, in Call of Duty that you wouldn't have really, like, been watching. But, like, I guess, like, Akes or Stainville or people like that, you get into the Call of Duty community and you're like, I don't fucking care of there. I was a little bit of shit talk to them. But then you go back into Halo. It's like, now, like, if you play, like, Roy or Ola or, you know, is there a little bit more respect there? Or are you still trying to. Okay. I think the Halo community, okay, well, I'll speak for the Halo community back then.

The Halo community back then was very respectful. worthy. There was a lot of respect in Halo because the people were actually respectable. Like, even if they were dickheads, you still respected the fuck out of them, the hysterias and the Knicks. Like, you just kind of respected what they did because it was hard as

fuck to go pro back then. Like, being a top eight pro was fucking hard. Like, getting top 32 was an accomplishment for these AMs, you know? Nowadays, people don't give a fuck. They're like, dude, I got, you know, almost made pools, you know, but like. I remember getting 17th and being hype in Halo 2.

Yeah, that shit's hard, dude. Like, back then it was really hard, so, like, I don't know. The call of duty scene, I think the cod community, the problem with it is that everyone thinks that they're actually, like, the best player on their team. They deserve to be on phase. They deserve to be on optic.

They deserve to, you know, they think that they're much better than they actually are. And the respect isn't really there. Like, if you watch a cod, S&D Chow, and just between a bunch of players or something the amount of like little the little shit talk that you hear

that's actually genuine is like crazy because in Halo you wouldn't really say like dude Ogarty's so fucking bad you know like because you just respect the fuck out of what they've done but like you know you'll hear people talking shit to like Arsides or something like an S&D kid who plays for nothing you know and he's like talking shit to

a two time world champ like in the game it's just like that's just not how Halo really was it could be now I don't fucking know I don't really pay attention that much now, but, like, back then it was just like you had genuine respect for the players and the pros. And now, I mean, I don't know. The call duty scene has always just been very, very weird in that regard, because people

just think that they deserve the best and they're just not that good. Cod kids are a different breed. Like, the Halo Ams, it's like, even if they beat formal and matchmaking, it's like, they fucking know. But, like, I feel like the Cod Kids, it's like, they're genuinely fucking hype. They beat you in ranked or something. I think it's the whole cod community. Like the, they're a little different.

Even like if you, like the hardcore, like if you look at the chats or, you know, the forum pages or anything, it's like the short lifespan that they have on like what is respectable is insane. Yeah. Like you said, like Alec, like Alex, Alex, Alex got rumored to be on a team this year with Ily. And I don't know if that's really the case anymore, but that's those, that's three rings on one team. as a start. And people are just like, oh, well, they had a, they had a rough year last year. So that team's already a bottom two team.

Like, they're just disregarding two of the best, one of the, two of the best players probably ever, especially, I don't know, I just, I think that's just how call the duty is.

Like the, yeah, the whole like Reddit, Twitter, Twitch shot, that little triple threat is, is a vicious cycle of like, just people talking to talk and hopefully they get tipped and like,

you know, they just want to seem like they know what they're talking about. I get it, bro. I get it. But like, do they actually know? No, no.

But like, I get it. It's fun to talk about and it's fun to think that you understand what's going on and you understand why they're doing bad or why they're doing good and why so-and-so is better than so-and-so. Like, you don't really know, but I mean, the fantasy is fun. It's what keeps you interested in the scene. So it's like, I respect that. But, yeah, I mean, like, I know there's probably cobb players who are going into that Reddit

after they lose a match and reading what the people are saying. And, like, it's probably affecting what they're doing in the, like, in-game. And I just, like, feel I pity that so hard because, like, I mean, like, everyone, everyone that like takes criticism a certain way like you can't go into a Reddit and read all the things that people think is wrong with you and like right like how is that not going to affect you you know and like you have to really have a strong mental to be like now these guys are just they don't even know what the fuck they're talking about but like I know there's players that are just sitting there reading that as they're falling asleep at an event with a losers match to play tomorrow and thinking like no I just got to fucking play good enough so the dinner's off my dick like you know it's just like it's bad um like I would be a horrible pro player holy shit. I would have to not have a phone on me. I'd have to have a little beep, a flip phone. Yeah, if you want me, call me. You're in YouTube comments now. Oh, dude. That's kind of crazy. That's kind of fun. Well, like, on our

podcast, YouTube comment section, like, people, someone just talk shit. It's only on the fly cast, and then I just try to hit them with something big. Like, I hope you, like, step on a nail when you walk to your car. Yeah. I've started becoming a responder, but... See, I don't know. Sometimes I am... But it's funny. It's in a fun. It's in a fun. Is it? Yeah.

Yeah. Like I completely stopped responding to anyone, but then sometimes I just get an itch. I feel like you never respond. I mean, dude. There's a big difference between someone being like, dude, Hitch's laugh is so annoying. And then someone being like, holy shit, if Nick would have played better, maybe they wouldn't fucking suck. There's a big difference.

I get that. No one's ever said that, though. It's just like, I mean, I won't respond. If I see something that's original and kind of funny, I'll like laugh at it and be like, because that was kind of funny, but most of the time it's just like cringe and like, beat of jokes, blah, blah, blah, but I mean, yeah, I don't really. We've been in, we've been in this for so long. It's just part of it. It's just like part of the game. You put videos out.

You should expect the comments. It's true. You should expect the feedback or else like, why the fuck are we doing this? So, yeah. Who are these fuckers that are commenting this shit? Is it like? I mean, like, I just think it's crazy. understand certain things but I saw something

I might be able to find it with my phone. Like feeling so strongly about a specific thing about a person and then typing it like you must fucking really fucking hate it. Yeah like what is actually going on in your life? I want to find it because someone tweeted me today just like talking shit. And of course it like I see someone said like it's been three year. This is the three year anniversary since I like rejoined Optic and like and then someone respond like,

I don't know why they fucking picked up the bum or some shit. And then I was like, like I'm scrolling out my mentions. Everyone's like, love him. One of my favorite episodes. I fucking love me.

We love you. So proud of you stuff. And then I see that. And I'm like, click on his profile. And I start looking through his shit. He made his account this month, this year.

And he is shit talking everyone. There are kids like that. I've noticed. It's rumored Rambo, coaching Seattle surge. He responded like, why pick up that? Canadian fucks like

Yeah, now I get it. Every. And it was like 10 tweets just today. Like they only have replies to like a certain community like a cod community. But it's talking shit. Just shit talking. And then there's like random feet picks that are retweeted. It's all like the same shit.

Give away. Give away. There's random thirst traps just going on. You're just like, dude, your life is a mess. Like this is insane. He's either 13 or going through it. Yeah. Like I can't even get mad at you like that.

I wonder what I would do it. I'm honestly pity the fuck out of that man. I'm like, dude, this is this is horrible. Like, I feel so bad that, like, you feel the need to do this every day. There's something, there's something, there's so much going on

that has to lead them into being in that mindset. That interest, that interest the fuck out of me. That's, like, the therapist thing. Like, I wish I could sit down. I wish we could, like, yeah, get a fourth chair. Like, how could be, like, so why did you, like, start talking shit? And then, like, actually hear the response, you know?

I don't know. Has anyone ever interviewed Twitter trolls? Imagine that's, I think that would be. It would be hard because, like, They'd be trying to be entertaining too and like trying to gas a little hard. I feel like they would just fucking bumble. I mean, whatever. It just depends.

They would just come up here and fucking choke. But it would be a good flycast interviews number or flycass sits down with optic reddit's number one hater or something. That's good. No, because now you're going to make people start doing extra hating. Like you're kind of trying to stop it. Just talk about something else. I promise. Yeah.

I promise. Next week we have, we have a little thing that. Nick and I are doing where we're going over our top 10 favorite Drake versus do you have anything that hits the top of your brain yeah I got a couple yeah immediately went okay like I really like certain Drake features like um stay skiing and like um what's that song with YG fucking who do you love yeah who do you love ones really good uh that's I didn't even remember that one the one with Rihanna fucking oh Nana what's my name oh no that one's really good What's my name?

No stylist. With French Montana, that one's really fun. My God. I forgot about no style. Drake? Yeah. Featuring Drake is a fucking banger every time. It's just a chicode, dude. Like, it really is.

Can't take a joke. One of the features 100 by the game. All I have ass is 100. I hate that. I hate that Rico is what, like, meek and. I didn't like Rico. You didn't? No.

I didn't really like it either. The one fucking, what's the other one they came out with? Back to back? Oh. No, no, no, no, no, no. The music video. with crashing cars into each other. When they made up?

Yeah, Drake and Meek. They became friends again and made a song together? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking banged. I can't remember. I can't remember. Drake Meek Mill. What's the Drake Meek?

Actually, Nick's got of that thing. Hey, then going, going bad. Yeah, going bad. Yeah, going bad. That verse is hard as fuck. So many good ones. Yeah. But I know some of your favorites are like cameras.

Well, yeah, cameras. No, but that's just like a, that's different. That's just like a vibe. That type of vibe is like, See, that's what I don't know, I don't know what to go for for this. I'm going, I'm trying to go with like my favorite.

Like, do I go with my favorite? I like the one with little baby really, like a lot. Yes indeed. Yes indeed is so fucking good. Like just when Drake does that certain type of like rapping, I just love it. They're like bounce.

I just don't know whether to go for like that. He's like really going harder now. Like he just doesn't, he really wanted to go harder. Like, do I go for that type of stuff? Or do I go with like the, I literally have a playlist called Drake's Most Final. Let me just go down this list. What about Ignant shit?

That's on my list of potentials. I have it on a notebook. I like Sneakins' verse. I mean, like, I have like certain like Chicago freestyles in here. It's just like such a good song. Those are, I feel like the vibes are my favorite. But this isn't a vibe. It's not top ten vibe-biest.

Top ten verses. But like his verse. on the vibes or like I mean yeah then go for it like if you I still I like you like you like like what you in the six like when he's going crazy on that right you in the six ways me right or wait that's not it is I saw a a a TikTok or a Instagram real that's what was this guy these guys debating Drake and he said this one dude said Drake doesn't have any classic albums was it the fucking idiot with the glasses yeah I hate that guy not that I like wish him bad in life but like he's one of those like I'm sure he listens to like

like Earl sweatshirt and Odd Future is Andre 3000 like that type and he's just he shits on Drake every single time. I got a ghost scene by the way. Okay. Wait, what did he say about Drake? He said he has no classic albums. That's just like three. Yeah.

What are your top three Drake albums? Take care. So far gone. Take care and I think so far gone. I do like it. I like, if you're reading this is, it might be. It'll never. I don't know.

See, that's why it's crazy. because we all have different top threes, but they're all considered, like I have nothing with the same in mind. Yeah. And take care. And probably... I like views.

Dude, if you're reading this is great. I really like views too. The second half of if you're reading this is too late is insane. It is just like... The fact that you can put, you can like interchange all of his, like,

albums is like kind of crazy. This guy's been doing it for so long, dude. Dude, for so... Like, we started thinking about doing this. And dude, you can go back to... You can go back to... To verses from like...

2010, 2011. Oh, he has tapes I listen to from like 2007. I freak called like comeback season. If you were going to ask Drake one question, like not some NPC shit. Fuck, I'd have to see. I got to see. What's your favorite song? You know, like you can't ask him shit like that, right?

That'd be like, how many times has he heard that? Like, what would you ask him? Now I see. I'm on the spot. I feel like if I actually had an opportunity to ask him something, I'd think about. What is best verse he's written for someone else is?

That's what I would ask him. Something like that. I would ask him, I would want to know some like, I would want to know some like behind the scenes. I'd ask him, did you write everything on Wu-Tang forever? That's verse.

Just so you can like... Give me some peace and tell me you at least wrote most of this shit. Just the fact that he wrote a lot of Kanye's album, it's just crazy to me. Like the father stress my hands and all that. He writes so many people. shit. I don't know. I think

that shit's cool. But anyway. When we tweeted that or someone responded like who, fucking who, who, who, the guy that steals everyone's lyrics? It's just like, shut the fuck. Fucking just like, dude. Who are where? Who

are you? Where are you? Why? Those are the people that listen to the Chicago freestyle and they're like, no. Dude, he stole this from Eminem. It's like, that's not, yeah. I can't see it. All right. Well, That's a good way to end it on Drake,

a little Drake stand. Anyway, we're doing, we're doing top 10, Drake versus next week on the Flycast. So if you like Drake, definitely doesn't know. Yeah, absolutely.

It was been episode 84 of the Flycast. That's been the multi-platform, multi-fPS champion. Wait, what number was it? Now a regular on the flycast. Now a regular. 84, I think. 84

H4 F that's crazy we'll see you next time alright peace out Matt say Matt play that fucking oh yeah Matt play that fucking

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