The Flycast - George W. Bush, Riff Raff, And Depression (The Flycast #005)

Episode Date: January 5, 2018

George W. Bush, Riff Raff, And Depression (The Flycast #005) by The Flycast ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's mine? Hello, lo, hello, lo, hello. Yo, what's up? Yeah, nothing much, chilling. Yeah, I don't know. They hate me. With your bad self. Yeah, we didn't have an intro, did we? I don't. No, we didn't.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Not that I don't remember because it's been so long. Back with the flycast for our, you know, it's just another week. It's just another week, another flycast, back on our regular... Back on... Back on... Still on schedule. Back in the Mac. On the back of the act.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Yeah. Of the Ford. Did we look at the camera or no? I mean, last week when we did this, did we look at the camera? They have no idea what's going on. What? All right. So, I feel like we got a lot of stuff to talk about.
Starting point is 00:01:05 A lot has happened in the last week since we've done the last flycast. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of us happened. Yeah, to start. I don't know. What's going on? What's going on in your life?
Starting point is 00:01:18 In my life, I don't think, I think I was single the last time we did a podcast. Are you serious? What? No way. I want you to think about that. What I told you yesterday. You were single? It's about to be, single.
Starting point is 00:01:35 It's about to be, and I'm about to have not been single for six months. Wow. That's how long. There's no way. It is. Because I think the last time was when I first moved in the sets house, in the sets room. Wow. Time has flown.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Dude, time flies. Time does. Super fly. That's like whenever we were playing basketball today and you were talking to the camera and you were like, you said something like, I haven't played since high school. And I know a lot of you guys are in high school, but like for me, that's six years. For me, that's, what, 2009? But I haven't really played since 2007. A decade.
Starting point is 00:02:20 10th grade would be 2007, so 10 years since I, like, played basketball. It's so nothing, you're almost 32. Not 32, like you're almost 30. Yeah. Well, I mean, honestly. Like, I swear I was just 22. And now I'm about to be 26. Like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:02:44 Dude, as soon as you turn... Something's not right. As soon as you turn 22, it starts... You're, like... Like, birthdays are not fun anymore. Yeah. There's 21, it's like, you've hit it. 22's the...
Starting point is 00:02:55 21's the last enjoyable. Exactly, yeah. Well, actually, I don't know. I mean, birthdays are cool, but, like, birthdays aren't... Like, I don't make a big deal about my birthday at all. Yeah, no, neither do I. It used to be, like, a thing. Now it's like...
Starting point is 00:03:09 Oh yeah, my birthday's tomorrow. My birthday's tomorrow. I mean, it's different for me because I try to do something like cool stream-wise, but. I definitely don't like birthday parties. I didn't feel bad, but whenever it was Pomage's birthday, it's like, for him, it's like, how old did he turn? Oh, 21. Did it was it? It was 21st.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yeah. I don't know if we did anything, do we? I think he went home. I think he went home. Something happened. But it's like we, for him, it's like, 21. But it's like when he lives with everyone else that's older, it's just like... He's the last one.
Starting point is 00:03:44 We get it, but it's like we don't even think of birthdays. Yeah, yeah. Like anything. And there was still some hype when Seth turned 21 too because there were so many people that weren't. Yeah, when Seth did, just... Yeah. That was like the finally weekend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:00 That's crazy. So yeah, five months. Going on six months since the last flycast. Wow. A lot has changed. I don't know. has much change. A lot of change for me, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Really? As far as like what I do is a little bit different than what I used to do. As far as like business-wise. I don't know. What about you, man? How about you? Same stuff here. How is your...
Starting point is 00:04:32 I'm a music producer now. No, you're not a music producer. You get paid salary to make a money. beats for vision. Yeah, no. I don't even want to fucking... Not like get into it, but like... It's no...
Starting point is 00:04:48 Like mocking it. Yeah. How people... Like, I don't want to mock people that look at it that way because even if they are talking shit, I... Like, I can...
Starting point is 00:05:02 I just understand. Yeah. From like a psychological... Like, I get it. Yeah. If you guys don't know what we're talking about, there's a vision. that came out two weeks ago called vibe.
Starting point is 00:05:13 It was just about like basically the whole vibe and optic. That's why we named it that. The whole vibe and optic was just kind of murky, I guess. I don't know what else to say. It was kind of weird. And at that point we knew Proof was going to move in like a week after that. Or I did. I don't think you knew it until he walked in.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I know he was moving in. I just didn't know when. Yeah. So we knew that that was going to happen. So we went ahead and made that. It was about the Call of Duty team losing. and then also content was going through some weird times in Optic. And so we put you at the very end of that talking to Hex.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And there's a lot of misconception. That's all anyone cared about. Yeah, that's all anyone cared about. That was the vision. It was definitely the most controversial vision we ever put out. Why? I don't know. Yeah, why do you?
Starting point is 00:06:03 Dude, I don't think about, okay, sometimes. actually very very rarely will I respond on Twitter to like shit talk almost never you know rarely in my stream I don't like talk shit on camera right
Starting point is 00:06:21 but somehow like there's controversy like somehow there's hate towards you around my name I guess now more than ever definitely now But at least controversy, somehow just around my name.
Starting point is 00:06:43 It's just like, I don't like. It is kind of crazy. It's like you stayed so far out of it that. Yeah, I'm like, so far. I'm just like a dude that. Did it do? I'm like the dude upstairs who like is kind who like likes being in his room and chilling.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And then it's like it came to a point where everyone's just like, who the fuck's the guy upstairs? What the fuck is he doing there? that is super that is super true i mean i get i get i get both sides of it it's different for me too because i like see what's happening on this side of things where not everybody can um oh damn i felt good um so yeah and in that vision you talk about how you wanted to to do um music and you wanted to basically tackle music from the side of the business side of optic where I tackle videography and production and stuff like that from well it was like I said in my
Starting point is 00:07:43 video it wasn't like I'm gonna be like because real honest with you I haven't watched a video I'm sorry okay well in my video I said I was when you and Pumage walked in my room and like we started randomly talking about that yeah I was in the middle of editing my video of like my return to YouTube so it was like people I don't it just it looked like it was
Starting point is 00:08:13 I think it was something that I don't know if it should have been a vision or not because it like it just wasn't I guess it I guess it should because it
Starting point is 00:08:26 it is something that has to do with the optic and it was obviously interesting for the people to hear about that yeah but it wasn't like it just wasn't planned out yeah yeah there wasn't it was just like a idea right like thrown at hex kind of yeah which happened not really thrown at hex because we've
Starting point is 00:08:50 been talking everyone in the house knows i've been like working on music and learning how to like it's not just you don't just make beats like yeah that's like saying that's like saying you just want to start editing videos. Like you had to learn how to like do all that shit. You had to learn how to shoot. What you want to shoot. Yeah. Pre like premeditate like how you're going to do the whole video.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Right. Like that stuff takes a while to learn. And but I've been doing that for a little bit but not long enough for sure. Because music to make good music. it's a lot to learn but so just throwing that randomly out there was kind of just like that would be a cool thing to put under optic but when we put it in vision it just makes it made it seem like it was going it's a it's now a thing yeah yeah it was definitely just like a because i remember you started talking and for some for sometimes when we when we have those talks like if we have them in the living room
Starting point is 00:10:06 we have in the kitchen, we had in the kitchen at the CSGO house. It's like we knew that we were going to have this talk and we needed to have it, but we also knew going into it that I was going to be filming it for Vision. It doesn't mean it's set up because it's not set up. Nothing's been set up in Vision except for that one thing with Shazam at the door, because obviously it's like a scare. So it hasn't been set up, but usually it's planned that we're not going to talk about this until the camera's present. This time it was like Nick sat down or you sat down.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I guess I should stop. I don't know. You sat down and you were like, you even said... It went from just like, hey, hex is coming over. And I was like, hey, whenever you get here, I'm going to talk to you about something. Yeah. And then when we like sat down, I was like, hey, get the camera. Yeah, I said that.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I was like, Aaron, get the camera. And then Aaron started recording because I knew I was going to have to chime in. So it wasn't like a... It wasn't like an announcement for me. Exactly. That I'm like quitting YouTube. in doing music. I just can't.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I can't believe. Kind of like the retiring thing. Like, um, like with that, it was like an announcement and then. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:11:16 all the talk about it afterwards. But this, it was like, just like a random talk that was called on camera. It's just crazy the amount of like misconception that came from that video. But I also understand it because, because I didn't have it because it was such a, not such a.
Starting point is 00:11:35 random thing, but because it was so abrupt, I guess, we just like go from just like chilling, talking in my room to like talking to hex about it, but it's on camera. So it's like nothing in my head is really like pre-planned of what I'm going to say. Like it wasn't even a complete thought. Yeah. It wasn't like, it was like just peeing it together. It's like chilling with your friends. And but we just happen to be in the same business. Yeah. And just like discussing ideas. Yeah. Like stuff that would be cool or stuff. Or stuff. I like I would like to do yeah yeah it it was just so much came out of it and then like when hex I feel like you had to defend yourself I didn't defend myself and uh even like
Starting point is 00:12:21 hex had to defend himself and it went from being like a casual conversation it's just everyone so just like suddenly it's like hostile almost like it was weird it was definitely weird um it was weird but how it was talked about and the fact that it was on vision i can see why because no one in the house or hex like we don't look at it like weird yeah yeah but because it was on vision and that's like a place where people if it happens on vision it's like held to a higher kind of standard yeah so when people see it on that they're like it just like hits them more
Starting point is 00:13:07 if that if that like makes sense I don't know if I'm explaining this well at all but yeah that subway was really good that we ate we released that vision then it kind of made me feel not good obviously because it was like so much negativity that came out of it
Starting point is 00:13:24 but it was also a lot of positivity a lot of positive messages that people or things that people had to say because they were saying you know this is what vision is about or should be about or yeah and i i agree like that kind of stuff like i said i said i don't know if it should or shouldn't be but at the end of the day like this is what we do and this is where we live like that kind of stuff should be envisioned yeah not like a it's like a reality show but it's actually reality yeah i was about to say that um so yeah that kind of made me feel
Starting point is 00:14:02 good people like saying that part but it's like people would say that and then I would be like I would like read Twitter and they'd be like this is this is what I've missed in vision that was probably the best segment of vision ever and I would be like damn that's pretty nice and then go on Reddit and be like I can't believe he's got six raises and he hasn't done anything and I'm just like there's like a pros and cons to everything it's yeah I wish it's like I love being transparent but I hate that I can only be semi transparent I wish I could just tell everybody Yeah, but obviously you can't. So that happened.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Then a week later, proof moved in. It was like the best vision. Yeah. It's like the most positive. I feel like people should look at, one thing we can all agree on and you can tell by everyone in that house is that our content and my content was shit.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Just, let's just say as a whole, me definitely included Bose Mike. Yeah. anyone just say our content as a whole was shit and that's one thing we can all agree on you could tell by everyone's attitude in the house it's something that like we didn't want to say for a long yeah every time we but not talked about it or anytime we did talk about it like you could tell it was bad and like so when the fans are giving a shit for that it's like we understand yeah but it's like we're never gonna say like we were nobody nobody was saying what are you talking about
Starting point is 00:15:29 our content's great like yeah like we knew i feel like as um as people looking into like our lives if you see us everyone like getting along and there's no tension within us like like it's all good and i'm saying that to say this like the music thing it wasn't like there's no like stress behind it there's no like fucking i'm trying to think of a way to explain this there's no hostility yeah there's no like hostility behind there's no negativity behind it within us yeah so it's like why why does everyone else have such a negative look at it yeah and i think i think a lot of that comes from obviously your own supporters and fans missing your content which makes perfect sense yeah and then everybody else just kind of backpacking because it wasn't just you it was like there was like six
Starting point is 00:16:30 different things that happened in optic all at one time and it just and then I was the fucking I was I was the what is it the what is it what is it called the lick or the the wick the wick oh yeah I was the wick and you just yeah yeah it's just like a lot of things happened in optic and it just kind of snowballed this like negative energy yeah and it it got real But I think we'll look back. For one, everyone watching right now, I'm probably doing it really bad at explaining this. But I can just literally read comments already. Everything I say is a YouTube comment response to what I say.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Fuck, but I think, actually, I don't think I know in just like everything else in life. six months from now we'll look back at this and it'll be like it'll be like remember this time and it'll like almost be like funny but like a good time yeah kind of like those were the good old day when we were just getting remember how much we would get roses like i miss those days yeah i mean it's funny because because you'll hear like people even in the house now talk about times like that that that happened in 60 50 yeah it was like remember when we were placing top 30 routine and never uploading YouTube videos and only streaming every once in a while. Yeah. Well, now there's this whole different vibe. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Dude. Yeah, we got talking about that. Fucking. It's crazy how much it changed. Yeah. I've not trying to like boost my own bubble. But whenever I first, is that even a fucking boost my bubble? I mean, you did it though. So I just kind of ran with it. He said boost my own bubble. And I was like, Okay, it makes sense. Well, it doesn't make sense, but when you hear it, you get it. But let me guess. Mannyx fucking high. No, I'm not high.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I'm sick of hearing this. Yeah, whenever I first moved in, fucking over two years. Jesus, fuck. Where's time went? Almost two and a half years ago. go this is when I moved in wow anyways when I moved in almost two and a half years ago at 60 50 up daily uploading wasn't a thing unless you were scumpernade shot right I remember when I first yeah when I first moved in for the first maybe year or something like I hardly even saw hacks
Starting point is 00:19:21 yeah I've heard the stories I don't believe it but I've heard the story no it's hard to believe now. Yeah. But like there was like, hex was like the C, just, just CEO. Not just CEO, but because I feel like he would hear that and be like just CEO of. I only say that just for hex, but yeah, hex was just being the. Basically he wasn't a streamer or daily vlogger. Yeah. He was he was, he was the CEO of office and like he would stop by every now and then and, um, just say what's up or hang out or make a video. Because back then we'd come out with a video every now and then of all of us together.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Like an egg roulette. Yeah. Stuff like that. But it wasn't, and everyone loved it. Yeah. And it was just like me, Enbo's Mike. Who else live there? Will.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Big T. Will didn't upload, but he did stream a fuck time. Yeah. He had that MLG contract. Right. But like it the daily uploading like but before the MLG contract Will didn't upload a video for like eight months and he didn't do anything because that's when he was like grinding stocks. I remember talking to Hecks about it. Yeah. When I was on Intel. Anyway. But it's just it's crazy how much it just daily like daily uploading or people just expecting something every day or yeah it's just it's crazy how much it's just it's crazy how
Starting point is 00:20:56 much it's changed. Not saying that it's changed in a bad way, it's changed in a good way. Like, just look at 60-50 to... Yeah, that's true. Well, I mean... Actually, not even... Fuck that. Actually, I retract that statement. Because going from... Just because this house is bigger, it's more expensive, optics bigger as an org. It doesn't mean it's better, if that makes sense. Yeah, no, I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you because people, I mean, there will be people for literally, if, unless Optic lives forever or until Optic dies, people are always going to say that the moments with Seth. Well, that's, yeah, that's, it probably, that's like the golden years. Yeah, those were like the best days in Optic.
Starting point is 00:21:42 That's like when you ask, like when I talk about rap, I'll say, you know, the 90, yeah, the 90th, the Tupacac and Biddy. Nate and Seth are Tupac and Biggie. I'm fucking... Careful. Yeah. I'm trying to pick wisely. Oh, my. I'm fucking...
Starting point is 00:22:05 Fettie Wop? Nah. I'm like a little sooner than Fettie Wop. You're a soldier boy. No, so he sucks. Rice gum soldier boy. You're the OJ, the juice man. Of...
Starting point is 00:22:21 Fopton. Oh, God. Yeah, maybe. I'm like the, I really can't think of anyone that wouldn't. I was thinking like a young Jeezy. Okay. But like, young Jeezy is like a legend in his own sense. That's very true.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Like he like started a wave of like a type of rap. Yeah. Well, you can start. So I was trying to think of something. You can start the music wave of optic. Yeah. Maybe, maybe I will be. Young Jeezy.
Starting point is 00:22:56 That's your Twitter bio tomorrow. Young Jeezy. That's my next tweet. Yeah, so. That's how I come up with tweets, by the way. Just like shit like this. Yeah. And then you just randomly tweet it because you think it's funny
Starting point is 00:23:11 and everyone takes you seriously. Shut the fuck up. Jeezies the goat. You ain't shit. All right. I got on Reddit the other. I was just sitting here like this, tweeting.
Starting point is 00:23:23 but I got on Reddit the other day and it was like I think the exact the exact like threat or not threat it was like comment it was like does anyone else read maniac's tweets and just think they're like the inspirational stuff is cringy as fuck
Starting point is 00:23:38 and then somebody responded to him was like I had followed him like six months ago and then the original guy who posted it was like I haven't followed him too I just check up on him sometimes I'm gonna find that guy and block him just so he can't check up You're checking up on nothing. It's funny, dude.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And me reading that, I just, like, laugh because I'm like, I know how you tweet, and I know you're not like, oh, I'm going to inspire some fools today. Yeah. You just like, I'm the, you're like, I'm the, just like what you just did. I'm the, I'm the, I'm the GZ of optic. Yeah. You just put your phone away. Yeah. But anyway, what kind of, what kind of tweets do you see and you find cringy?
Starting point is 00:24:22 Like what like that guy how they look at my tweets like cringy and you just have to like unfollow him. You're like I can't take this. What tweets do you see? I feel like we're going to have the same answer. Is it like self-deprificit? Like words like the I'm so sad. I'm so sad. I hate life kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Yeah. I hate life. Why me? Actually I don't know if I do hate that. Dude, I can't stand it man because I've had to mute so many people. It's just like if you cause. tweet about how bad your life is like we've all been sad we've all been frustrated we all need an outlet to get it out on like we've had we've talked about that depressed but it's like you can't
Starting point is 00:25:05 just throw I don't even like that word I hate that word obviously depressed yeah why I mean I've had like history with it like as as far as like my family and stuff like that like I don't know if I've ever because I don't even know if anyone knows 100% Yeah, I mean, I guess so. But, but I guess from like what I've dealt with in my past, like personally and with my family, like my immediate family, and then like knowing how that went and then seeing people on Twitter just being like, been depressed for three weeks. Yay, my life is crap. Yeah. It's just like, are you though?
Starting point is 00:25:45 Like if you're tweeting like that, I feel like you're not. I don't know. Maybe that's just me being like. Yeah. Yeah, but I feel like at my, I don't know, some people are different. I know at my lowest, it's when I'll kind of like disappear. Yeah, that's, that's, see, that's always been my. Like, I won't, I'm not, and I'm not purposely not tweeting it because that's me,
Starting point is 00:26:12 the depressed kid not tweeting. Yeah. I'm just, when I'm, when I feel like that, I'm just, yeah, I'm gone. I think maybe I don't want I think maybe I don't want to anything to do with anything I don't want to see anything I don't want anyone to like text me or call me yeah is are you okay I don't I just want to like you don't want attention yeah that's like the whole point of it and I mean not point but that's like the whole like that's what it in my eyes you can you can say that but maybe to them it's different yeah I mean I get that it's different to everybody that's the
Starting point is 00:26:50 thing with like mental stuff yeah it's it's always different but every i feel like the the one time maybe that i have felt that way i was very checked out of just life in general i was very like i couldn't get up i was in college at the time i couldn't get up for for school i would lay in bed the only time i would ever even like want to do anything was like play video games with blake and George and even they didn't know what was going on and yeah and then like I know as I was I've gotten better with it and I would like to say it you start understanding these moments more as you get older because you'll just have more of them you'll like be self-aware and know it especially with the internet nowadays there's so many videos that you can relate to
Starting point is 00:27:47 And the more you go through it, the more you're going to realize how to get out of it. So it's like, I remember when I was younger and like went through my first time that I can remember being depressed. It was, it's, it was like a year thing. It wasn't like a couple days, a couple weeks. It was like a year or maybe years of like being depressed. and then there would there there there'd be like obviously i'm not in bed for a year yeah like you go in and out of it kind of but ultimately when you're you can say it wasn't a good fucking year at all right uh it always hits like when you're alone at night yeah you're just like thinking like
Starting point is 00:28:34 what but as you but as you get older and that's why people see me like in and out of the gym because in and out of the gym and in and out of eating healthy foods. And it's because I think as I've gotten older, instead of just like being sad forever, I'll be like, okay, I know what I need to do. I know what's going to make me feel better, going to the gym, eating healthy food. So if I'm like feeling, if I'm starting to feel down, I start doing that stuff. But then I have the problem of doing that stuff, starting to feel good and being like, Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah. I don't. I don't feel bad, so I don't, I don't feel the need to do it. Yeah. But then there's times where it's like, fuck, I feel so tense and, like, depressed. I need to, like, fucking angry. I need to, like, fucking work out or move or I'll force myself. But then eventually that'll go away, and then I'll, like, kind of stop working out.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah. it's a it's a weird thing yeah it is a weird thing yeah it is a weird thing yeah no it's definitely and I and I think especially in the e-sports nowadays in the world in general and I think a large part of it has to do with food and just the way society is run now yeah definitely I feel like the society part is very important too because a lot of these people like like there was a documentary that I think Damien was going to make it's like one of the videocytes photographers in the scene. I think he was either going to make it or he was like promoting it or something and it was like about Twitch streamers in their daily lifestyle and it's like being a Twitch streamer is something that like a ton of people want to do. Like they want to be a successful Twitch streamer. But at the end of the day, it's like a relatively lonely job. Yeah. Like you you're talking to invisible people. You're talking to a screen for nine hours at a time and then when you shut it off, you're alone. And then, then. you get to realize that not only are you alone you've been alone for nine hours you just had people
Starting point is 00:30:49 virtually it takes like a really strong person to be able to do that and like balance real life yeah oh for sure dr disrespect fucking streaming eight hours a day but still balancing like family yeah family all that shit because it's different people people think like we haven't had real jobs like yeah that's true and like at least not at least because here we have human to human interaction but say like a Twitch streamer who doesn't like humans have evolved from thousands and thousands of years of actual human interaction so there's a disconnect when it's when you're talking to a screen yeah it's there's subconsciously something missing like uh it's something. I don't know what to call it. Your human instincts are like,
Starting point is 00:31:45 where's the fucking humans? Yeah. Where the, when I think your brain just like, gets sort of a foggy depression because of that. Yeah, and then you start going, you start just going through the motions
Starting point is 00:31:57 where you're just looking down at chat, you're seeing this, you know, you have your regular people, you say something to them really quick, but you don't know, like, you don't know what they look like
Starting point is 00:32:07 when they're talking or you don't know when they're, characteristics are or how they act or how they're responding to what you're saying it's like it's literally just a one motion it's like you're in a factory it's like you're doing your thing and then constantly looking over reading chat it's like the same thing over and over and over yeah i don't know it's kind of you'll look over a chat someone will say something talk shit and then it's like you're back to your video game read it look over say hey to someone back to your video game it's like Definitely, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I feel like it was taking like a dark turn as far as the podcast. But I feel like our voices got quiet. We got closer to the mic. Our voices got deeper. But the other thing that I can't stand where people tweet, which is going to sound kind of, I don't want to be a douche. Well, before you say this, let's just to end this streaming thing on a positive thing. It's also really, there's like, it's cool. I know with my stream and your stream, there's like a certain, it's like a little family kind of.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And there's people, yeah, there's people that are like whenever I turn my stream on, they're always in there. Yeah. And it's like, I'm like happy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. I'm happy to see those people.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah. I'm not saying, I was never going to, I was never saying I'm not happy to, you know, interact with those people at all. It's just like there's, it's a one-way interaction for the most part. Yeah. Like you see text and then you hit human respond. You don't see it. human response to your human response.
Starting point is 00:33:42 There's like a touch and a feeling that's missing. There's no sight or scent or no. And then the second thing, anyways, why were you going to depress us all with? Even more.
Starting point is 00:33:56 The second thing that I can't stand when I see people tweet, how do we even start that? I said what tweets don't, do you hate? Oh, because of your cringing tweets. Yeah. I would say it's like
Starting point is 00:34:12 This is gonna sound so douchy But when When people tweet out When people tweet out about how much they love their fans I don't know if I can I don't know if I can say this man No I think you can When people tweet out about how much
Starting point is 00:34:36 I don't know what you're going to say after When people like tweet out about how much they love their fans And they're their push Okay this is this is a better way to put it Because it's not about their fans, it's not about them showing support to their fans, but they're like pushing the fact that they have fans. That's what I can't stand. And it's not ever successful people.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I'm not saying I'm watching like, I'm not saying I'm watching like made shot and him like saying, oh, thank you guys for stopping by the stream. Obviously that's perp. That's what you're going to do. I'm not Nick Mercs. I'm talking about the people that had eight viewers in the stream. And instead of being like, thank you guys for stopping by. They're like, oh, thank you all for the troops.
Starting point is 00:35:15 for the I don't know what to call it. The trooper poopers. Yeah. Thank you for the trooper poopers to stop and by. Thanks to all the trooper poopers who were in the poops stream tonight. And it doesn't like, it's not like in fury. I'm not going to mute or block those people.
Starting point is 00:35:33 But it's just like, I don't know why it bothers me. It's like, it's like you're, it's like to me it feels like they're bragging about the fact that they have people that watch their stream. But, you know, I've never felt the need to brag about the fact that Optic has like a fan base or a supporter supporters like I just I just like showed them my appreciation and then that's that's all I feel like yeah I can't really say I'm on the same boat with you on this one that's I mean I know it's probably me being but I see and I get where you get that from but then I also I think I have you do too
Starting point is 00:36:20 but like I have a soft spot for like fuck how can I say this without I was gonna say I have a soft spot for like the lesser people but you're not less of a person I have a soft spot for those like trying to like
Starting point is 00:36:42 yeah make something yeah so do I but I just so even if it's like doing it right like like when I because I used to stream prior to being here I would stream no face cam monorfer two matches and I would have like 13 people yeah and then when I were when I would tweet about it afterwards I'd be like thank you guys for stopping me really but I wasn't like hitch squad in the building like all you guys wish you guys were hitches in the gang gang community I don't know if anyone does that do that I've seen it a few times that's mostly what I'm talking about. So I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:37:16 I hate little streamers. He's shooting at someone. There's someone out there that is directly. There's no one in particular. I'm just saying I've seen it in the past. Yeah, I've seen it. And it's kind of frustrating. That's all I've been. But I enjoy well, I don't enjoy.
Starting point is 00:37:33 But I have like a soft spot for those who were like who will have 40 viewers and be like and fucking feel and they'll feel amazing off of it. Yeah, of course. Because, like, they don't have, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:52 they're not a part of, like, a brand or anything. They're just, like, starting from scratch. Yeah. Yeah. Unless those people are, those people are e-girls that are showing cleavage. I mean, you can't hate on that either. So I would say the next thing.
Starting point is 00:38:17 First guest on the fly cast, Big Optic Hax. straight here to flex. I just had some noodles in company and I wrecks that shit. I can't wait to have our first guess. Who would be?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Who wants it? Who wants the juice? Who wants to fly juice? I was about to say that. It'll probably end up being Bose. You think so? It'll either be Bose or like a celebs,
Starting point is 00:38:46 if we somehow get a, if somehow a huge celebrity, everybody out there is like a fan of ours the fly cast featuring chance the rapper yeah like something like that like that'll be our first guess uh how should
Starting point is 00:39:02 I got a beat if you want to rap I like acid rap a lot how do you think that would go I don't know I'd be fine I don't think there's anybody besides I think I would I think I think I would be fine.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I would just probably take a couple shots and then I think I'd be good. But I don't, dude, I'd fuck the mic up. I take a couple shots and then I think we'd be good. Okay. I get that. Yeah, yeah. Is there anybody in this?
Starting point is 00:39:51 Because I'm like a. nerd I'm like a nervous person in general so if I had a it depends what celebrity if it was like a actor because I don't really watch shit I probably wouldn't give a fuck but if it was like a rapper yeah I'd probably I'd be like fuck I need a shot or I'm not gonna be I'm gonna sit here like a rock is there anybody that and the mic goes up is there anybody that like because i was just thinking about it i i've kind of like mentally like trained myself i guess starting in phil like when i went to umg philly for the first time i've been watching nade shot and set skump videos for like god it scared me i've been watching
Starting point is 00:40:40 nade shot and uh skump videos for like two years and i was going to meet them for the first time and i was going and i went in and i remember saying to blake it's like yo when we see them I'm not, I'm not gonna like get like starstruck or like fanboyer at all because I'm just going to go in and like shoot and like uses them an opportunity. And then hopefully like make something in this where I'm not, I'm going to separate myself from the fandom realm. And like try to do something business wise or like just, you know, try to get myself into the scene. And so like that's pretty important. Yeah, super important. Crazy important.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Because the second somebody comes up to you and you, it's like, the second. second somebody comes up to to hex you can literally watch him separate the two into like should we like are you a fan are you talking to me like that or or but then there's going to be people who are going to try yeah to do that to not be the fan but it's like dude you're trying to not yeah yeah exactly yeah it's a difficult thing to balance it's a thin line for sure it's a very thin line and so I feel like I've kind of I don't want to like boost my own bubble, but I feel like I've mastered that line. And so I feel like if I ever did meet like a B or A list celebrity, I think I'd be pretty cool
Starting point is 00:41:59 about it with the exception of like five people. Like if Drake sat down, I'd be like, fuck, that would be. Like you say it? Dude, I'd have so many questions. Yeah, of course. But your questions, you would have to stumbling. Do you ever get nervous? Are you single?
Starting point is 00:42:16 you think your girl's fucking with you but it's like you think about it like I don't I can't I honestly like can't even like comprehend what that would be like if like if Drake sat down if Jay Z sat down
Starting point is 00:42:32 I mean I feel like it would be even really weird for me personally if like Casey Nistat sat down I'd be like yeah like what dude that'd be that'd be kind of surreal yeah to like see him in the flesh yeah I don't think I don't think he is real.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I don't know if he is real. We're all looking at that chair. I guess, like, is there anybody that you have? Probably, like, a Joe Rogan. Okay. A Joe Rogan, of course. He would out podcast the shit out of us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:07 It would be his. Actually, no. It won it. He won it because he's fucking... He's the best. So he would make it our podcast still, because he understands. stands that it's our podcast and he's a guess because i've seen him on other podcasts and it's like
Starting point is 00:43:24 he's that aware and like he's that conscious of a person which i appreciate um other than that i don't know of course the huge artist rappers we're trying to think of if there'd be someone like interesting that Will Smith, yeah, Will Smith of course. We gotta find a different place to do this.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, fuck this. We're going back to Mixwell's room. Just while Mixwell's playing too because it wouldn't even affect him. He's just we're just podcasting.
Starting point is 00:44:05 That'd actually be like a cool background. Yeah, just Mixwell playing. Just mix well in the background. Another like thought that I had prior to what we were talking about when you were talking about how like the fluctuation of of YouTube comments and and basically like what people like the expectations actually
Starting point is 00:44:28 sorry to interrupt but Dr. disrespect whenever I met whenever I did meet him though that was like that was like a surreal moment because I was like you're the first guy I and I said this to him I was like, you're the only guy I genuinely watched, like how people have their favorite TV shows. Yeah. I don't watch TV. I don't really watch movies. I don't watch streams, but I watch him.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Yeah. Like a fan. And so I met him. And it was like, in with his mask, with his... With his... Everything all. Everything all. I met...
Starting point is 00:45:04 He met his government name. I met Dr. Disrespect and I met his government name. Yeah, I didn't want to say it. Yeah. Well, it's out there. I guess it is out there. And I met him. Dude, I am like obsessed.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I don't, all right. I don't want to say obsessed because that sounds like I'm like super over exaggerating. But I'm super interested in that kind of stuff. Yeah. And like, I guess like method acting and stuff like that and like people that put on like a persona. And so I just get, I get really into knowing what they're like outside of that. I do it with actors all the time. Like I want to watch all the interviews with different actors.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Every actor is just like so cool. Yeah. And that's a reason why every like, most huge actors like Matt Damon, Leonardo DiCaprio, Will Smith, all those guys, Denzel, if you sit there and watch an interview with them or see them out of a movie, it's like they'd be so cool to just like talk to them. Like they're just cool-ass people. And that's why they're good-ass actors. too. Is there like a phenomenal actor or actress? Is that just a terrible person? I think not a terrible person who's, he might be a director actually. I'm sure directors. Directors are definitely different. No, I think it is an actor. I can't think of his name though.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Something, Tarantino. Quentin Tarantino? I think it might be Quentin Tarantino. Is he an actor? I think so. I think he. We're going to get arrested. This is what I'm saying. I know, but I think he's, I've heard people talk about him that, like, knew him in the industry. And I think he's like, the crazy dude, but he's, that's why he's so good. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:46:58 But he's also, like, people like him. Yeah, he is. But he's just like the crazy dude. And that's, like, what makes him so good. Yeah, he directed, uh, Django Unchained. Maybe it's, it might not be him. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. But, yeah, you're basically saying there's somebody.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah, it's something like that. Because I've done it this, like, a shit ton of in the past. Like, you know the guy on the Blue Collar Comedy Tour? What's his name? The comedian? Yeah, what's his name? The Palmer dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Fucking. What is? Layer the cable guy. Yeah. I used to watch art. Oh, that's a really good example. I watched his, like, original stuff. before he got into that character and it's like I want to meet people like that so bad
Starting point is 00:47:48 because I just want to know what they're like off camera because they're so secretive about it because their character their doctor disrespect has gotten so popular that they're like they're like Larry is probably pretty similar no he's well is in his original like stand-up prior to Blair the camera guy oh really he's like a normal guy really super normal I'd have to see Dude, it's crazy. And then, like, George W. Bush also. I can only imagine him just, like, a toned down Larry the cable guy. No, it's, like, completely different.
Starting point is 00:48:22 That's weird. And then, like, George W. Bush, prior to, like, him being, like, super in the spotlight, like, didn't really have that much of a southern accent. And then when he started running for president, he, like, he, like, tripled his southern accent. And so it's, like, I was really interested in that. And then also... I know for a fact that riffraff, I've talked about this many times to you probably. We were just talking about this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Riff Raff, there is a video out there somewhere on the internet of Riff Raff being on a character. That's weird how we talked about this yesterday and then it's somehow... Coming back around. It's not even like we just like started that subject. Yeah. It's like it's somehow formed into this. Yeah. But I just want to like eventually, that's why when people ask me, I've, I've, I've,
Starting point is 00:49:12 come to term or I've finally like like made it definite that when people ask me what's the one person you want to meet in the world and like hang out with I always say riffraff and they look at me like I'm crazy but I want to know what he's probably not though dude though you're one person to meet's going to be riffraff yeah there's no way I refuse to believe if you were dying and they said you can meet one person and they'll come to you. you, you're going to choose riffra. But what are you going to get out of it? That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:49:48 With me meaning riffraff, what are you going to get out of that? Knowing, I'm going to know, because nobody knows right now. Nobody knows besides maybe his PR team, his lawyers, his family. Yeah, I know. I know that there's a video out there. You're like the crazy Illuminati guy. No, what? Your Illuminati is riffraff.
Starting point is 00:50:09 And you're the crazy riffraff guy. You're a riffraff conspiracy. theorist. Dude, okay, listen. And you're going to create a documentary. Listen. If I was a conspiracy theorist, actually I'm about to say the most conspiracy theory ever, there's a video out
Starting point is 00:50:24 there. He's out of character. He's eating crab. You sound like such a conspiracy theorist. And he's out of character talking. And the video doesn't exist anywhere. You can Google it. The video doesn't exist anywhere because
Starting point is 00:50:42 he took it down because he didn't want to be seen out of character. That's what I'm saying. If I was in a room, I was in a room alone with riffraff, proved to him that there were no cameras on. I was not recording anything. I threw away. I emped the room.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And I would just be like, what's up? What if he was just like, what's up, man? I would be like, what if he was just like, Hey, hey. How are you? I would just be like. The cameras. I just have to turn into this other person.
Starting point is 00:51:16 But it's like if I, if I can meet anyone and I chose, I don't know, like Drake or Jay-Z or somebody, they're going to be like, yeah, what's up, man? There's pleasure meeting you. And I'll be like, there's a pleasure meeting you, but you're not going to, like, get anything out of it. Whereas, like, I go into riff-raft knowing what I want. I can see that. It makes sense. but I guess
Starting point is 00:51:42 if I was on if I had to choose one person it probably I don't know man who would it be dude I feel like I think it would be someone who has
Starting point is 00:51:54 it might be like a George Bush or something like George W. Bush? Yeah okay someone I just I have some questions or maybe like a George
Starting point is 00:52:06 Bush senior or like the CEO of Bank of America or like someone like that and just be like... Because they run the country and they know some shit. Yeah, that's true. Like George Bush, George W. Bush, he probably knows some shit. That's true. He went through like the worst times in... In all the conspiracies behind him and his dad and Bin Laden and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Like, that would be, that would be something to fucking. The stock market crashing or whatever, like, or the housing market. It's like, literally those four things happened in one presidency. How unlucky you have to be as a president. Is it luck, though? Unlucky. That's why it's unlucky. Is it luck?
Starting point is 00:52:57 Dude. What if he, like, if it's not, if whatever conspiracy theories aside, George W. Bush is elected president. And he's just like, I did it. And now the whole world just. crashes onto him with the worst stuff possible. George Bush just wanted to make music. He's just in there like this.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Suddenly he's fucking the devil. He's the wick. He was. That's hilarious. All right, guys, this has been probably the most ranted flycast in a while, but it's been a while since we've done this. It's been a lot of fun. I feel like it's almost like a...
Starting point is 00:53:48 They're not... Kind of like a therapy. Yeah, it's fun. It's like a... Like, I feel more relaxed than what I did an hour ago. Yeah, same. So do I.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I can actually take a nap. No. No. No, no, nats. I'll take nats. We can't end it like this. Fuck. They're against us again.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Now they hate you again. Back to George. All right. into it though yeah all right so that is going to do it um do we have outro music dude i legit forgot my part

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