The Flycast - GUESS WHO'S BACK (The Flycast #008)

Episode Date: January 5, 2018

GUESS WHO'S BACK (The Flycast #008) by The Flycast

Do you know the intro song that I use is Okay, this can't happen you know the intro song that I use is uh your beat called little lost boat that's been the thing since day one i don't think it'll ever change either I like it man it's kind of like the smooth competition beat yeah was that the first um first smooth beat you used like since episode one really it's so like fitting too for for all my vlogs I used to use like three different artists and then I just kind of started rolling with the same artist but one of those three I was just going through all of his like trip hop style and and I saw that one it was like that's funny that's like that's like talk with the top golf thing they

played it they played that song what the whole time and the way like purposely yeah I thought they like actually just played that beat they played it on purpose oh dude I pour this beer so bad it's gonna be forever well welcome to the flycast yeah welcome to the flycast the best podcast and optic and the most consistent in the most well and the just Just as consistent as the other one. Exactly. But I mean, should we talk? I don't, I know we're both kind of against talking about what is going to happen because

then it sets it up for failure and it puts pressure on the like the people in the video. Like you don't say, I'm going to vlog every single day. Yeah, no, I stop doing anything like that. But what we can say is that because of because of the move and because of everything that's going on we are trying our best to put more emphasis on the flycast and yeah we know it's fucking amazing yeah yeah we know word yeah we know we're oh yeah so a lot has happened since shit how long every single podcast we get to say a lot has happened since blah blah blah because our podcasts are so far apart so at least we get a lot to talk about we got a lot to talk about when

was like the last when we did podcast what was when was it like what is what was the beginning of like since a lot last podcast uh i know the last thing we talked about uh i mean the last thing we talked about wasn't like current event stuff because i kind of like uh like went back and and check the titles it wasn't like current event stuff it was like us talking about was that the something in weed stories that was the last podcast and then the one before that was when we were talking about like relationships because two flycass ago, Sam and I just started dating. We have been dating for nine months. So that is how inconsistent of the flycast has been.

The third flycast in three months? Or, sorry, nine months. The third flycast in nine months? Are we all good on the audio? I think we're all good. We'll see. Test, test, test. Test, test.

We don't want to pull no hacks here. because when he was in charge of things it's funny he really did let that go to you he was like all right yeah for the podcast smooth comp yeah you handle audio yeah well no no it turned into when Hicks started like all of the optination

stuff besides vision like he kind of like was the head guy for it he did everything um as far as like set up and then I would do all the editing like for the podcast he would set it up he would have everybody there they would record none I would edit and then for smooth comp he would call all the book all the bouncy castles in the backyard and then I would do all the editing then one day he was like I'm not doing this anymore and then that day it was all up to me well the thing is he would

every well I don't want to start this first podcast or forever just bashing hex is all audio abilities, but there would be a lot of issues. And I, I, yeah, I don't know how to hook up any of this. Yeah. So I pretty much. And this is like cheating. Like the thing is is because what we were eventually want to do with the, with the optic cast is do something like, like the, um, uh, like all the podcast quality

that you see like Joe Rogan and H3 H3, like that kind of quality. And you can't get that from this device because this device. Yeah, because this device is kind of like a, it's like a, you plug an SD card into it. It records the audio to the SD card and then you sync it up and post. It's not like, why does that be it? Like, why is it more difficult than that? Because it's not like an actual like, I think in order to get the highest of quality, like Nade shot or like Big T quality, you need like an actual mix amp and you need it to run through like different. I mean, that's all just stuff.

I don't know anything about it. Oh, same. And they're like, all the people here are like, all right, so let's make the optic podcast better. Yeah. And I'm like, well, that's like when people would come to me with like with my music stuff and like, let's make a rap. Let's rap on you. I'm like, I barely know how to make beats. Yeah.

Like I'm just, I'm still on the beats. I don't, the audio, the microphone and the voice is a whole new fucking instrument. Yeah. And you refuse to put out like band camp style. Yeah, I refuse to put out SoundCloud. Like, as far as YouTube entertainer, like, if I'm going to put something out, it's going to be like at least like rice gum quality. Like he, you know, he goes to a studio. It's like professionally done.

It sounds good. You know, he gets his raps from his, uh, from his guy. From his point in Miller. So we can talk about that. So when you were at the scruff house, you were kind of, you weren't like going through stuff, but you were just like, I. It was like maybe a midlife crisis at fucking 25, 26. Yeah. Oh, what am I doing, dude?

What? The fucking glasses. What am I doing? Right? See, I couldn't even see it. Yeah, so I guess at the end, shit, at the end of like, okay, how long ago was the last podcast? Dude, I mean, I can check. Exactly.

Okay, it doesn't. It doesn't matter. But like, toward a little bit before that podcast, a little bit after that podcast, I guess I was going through. some stuff and I don't even know what the fuck I was going through it was just like I think everyone who watches would like can attest to like sometimes you don't know why you feel a certain way yeah but but at the end of the day I think I know to a certain extent why I felt that way I didn't know I didn't like wake up with a purpose I didn't like have a goal I was confused on what I wanted to do what I was doing.

Then I was just living unhealthy. I was eating shit foods. I wasn't exercising. I wasn't getting out of the house. So I mean, that's pretty much a fucking, that's a setup for a disaster right there. It's just living an unhealthy life. Yeah. And I think this is like kind of a hard read and like, it's never something that you've

formally said. but while because this is like over because the last flycast we talked about how people are mad that you were just upstairs doing nothing because remember you were like who was the guy upstairs and so you had been going through it for like six months prior to that so this has been like a year long kind of thing yeah and it's not it was 2017 i remember in the beginning of 2017 me you i specifically I typically remember me, you, and Seth. We're just like standing there like, fucking 2017. This is our year.

We're like hype. I remember we were saying no girlfriend. Yeah. Fucking like going to work. That's when we were working out. And I think I lasted up until like February with like the working out. You guys didn't last too long with the girlfriend situation. Oh, dude.

And then. That's immediate. it. Yeah. And then I was just kind of everyone kind of went their separate ways and yeah, did their own thing. So like what I was talking about with the hard read or whatever over this over the past year, whatever, you know, because before that you were grinding YouTube or you were grinding streams. Or playing Halo. Yeah, we're playing Halo. Over the past year, like, and that's when your YouTube was kind of thriving is right after you stopped playing Halo and you started playing H1 and you started grinding vlogs and stuff your YouTube was like popping and then like while all that stuff

starts happening like you know you start focusing on other things and then you start feeling like what this is kind of like you start going through whatever it is uh YouTube like changed YouTube like 180ed for sure like that's when you know people instead of uploading YouTube videos they started like playing YouTube yeah and that is kind of when it turned into like a game yeah like uh sort of like a science to it of just like what's going to get views and it's like get me money yeah what's going to get me money yeah exactly what and that'll be the title the content the content usually wouldn't be that good anyways yeah exactly but the title thumbnail fucking click bait yeah not that I care I mean because I

really don't care but it definitely did take like a fucking 180 yeah so it's like a weird a weird direction because when i upload still like uh i like when i upload on my personal channel like i still do the weird like find what somebody said in my vlog make it the title and then do my quirky little thumbnails on my own phone or whatever but uh but i i understand that if i titled it that scump comes over and gets naked and then has a picture of scump with like a censored. I know it's going to get more views and I know I would get more money off of that. I just can't, I can't do it. I don't know.

And I feel like you're the same way. I'm the same way to a certain extent. I don't have a problem as long as I don't know. I think I've I found like a medium yeah I feel like when you clickbait or like go crazy in the thumbnail you do it as like a parody because people because you're the same way and I kind of as I feel the same way as well myself okay okay sorry here I get I'm gonna start interrupting you and shit is just like old times but I was gonna say to interrupt you fucking actually what I'm talking about is like the what I'm talking about is like the what I'm just like the when people set up a thumbnail like they'll set like yeah they'll like have their hands yeah oh my god i can't believe this happened yeah and that they'll literally like be like hey uh johnny take a picture of you doing this and like that shit's corny to me yeah but like my shit not to say fucking mine's not corny and there's this yeah but my point is this like

they're taking something that like didn't even really happen and they're trying to emphasize that Yeah. And then like my shit like my shit's kind of clickbait because I'm literally naked on like two of my last four videos. But it's like you literally came in my bathroom when I was naked. And like that actually happened. It wasn't fucking like scripted. It was like I don't know. It's it's it was real. Yeah, exactly. But like I'll use that realness to fucking. Yeah. I guess try to fucking. get views and whatever. And during that whole time, because it wasn't just you not uploading, it was like you, Bose, everyone, everyone, but Pam. And we're all not uploading. And people are like, you guys aren't uploading, but look at all these people. Look at their views. Look at their success. And it's like, that's cool. But like, like, and I respect those people's grind. Like, I'm obviously not saying any names, but I don't want to do what they're doing. I don't want the fan base that they're getting off of those videos and I don't want like I don't want my like that would be

work to me like I want to continue to do stuff that I like to do and me like sitting sitting like at my desk thinking about different ways that I can basically scam my audience in order to get more views so you guys can give me more money like it's not that's not what I signed up to do it's not what I wanted to do and so when everybody's like roasting us about how we're not uploading and it's like well that's not uploading to us and and and we have this old separate this we have this whole other separate thing going on where the scuff house is basically as stale as it can possibly get fuck yeah and then that was that that was the biggest problem just i wouldn't yeah i mean it has nothing to do with other people that's not why like we sucked yeah like i sucked yeah but i mean and i'm not

i wouldn't yeah i don't want people to think i'm blaming it on other people i'm just saying there's a lot that like subconsciously is going on yeah because i remember probably around that time and vision where i was like i would rather do music than like do youtube and just brought up that idea or whatever i remember around that time i i think the exact words i used to hex was like youtube is just so fucking corny to me like it doesn't it's just just doesn't seem real. And at that time though, my mind was definitely like jaded and like just clouded to where I wasn't really thinking clearly.

And I just wasn't in a good space regardless. Yeah. And now that I'm definitely feeling better, it's, and I have a more clear mind, something like saying YouTube is. corny isn't even like in my head space like I'm just I'm just do me yeah and whatever I feel is right I do that sure I don't then you know I don't yeah and I all I can do is just like share my experience yeah exactly but it doesn't matter what anyone else is doing it's stuff people worry about other people too much facts and I I know I say facts after just saying that we were worrying

about people but it wasn't even like we were sitting around like worrying about people we were just watching we were like sitting back like not like obviously frustrated that we didn't have the motivation to upload because it's easy to say oh you guys are just being lazy and not uploading but every single day that has ever gone by since i have become a YouTuber or have worked on youtube videos every single day that i don't upload it's it it does i think about it and it stresses me out I mean, yeah, I was the same way too. Yeah, it's got to be that way for everybody. Yeah.

So, so whenever people are like, oh, you're just being lazy and not uploading, it's like, make, it like double makes you feel bad because. People don't, like, you can't, you don't just upload, like, uploading isn't just a, uh, a job as in stock the shelves. Put these, put this can on this shelf, job done. Like uploading is like you have an audience that hold you to like a certain criteria or a certain standard and you don't feel comfortable uploading unless it's like sort of at that standard unless you are in like a creative mindset or a good mindset, a comfortable mindset that you're comfortable putting up your work. Yeah. It's like your art almost. Yeah. And so it's not just fucking laziness.

Like there's there's a certain laziness was for sure a part of it But it's not it's not at all of it Yeah There's a creative part behind it That you can't just It's not just work

It's something I don't know Something different Yeah And it's frustrating Because like I mean They're not really frustrating But like people will just say

Like you don't know what it's like to work But we're like the only two That dude Yeah I would say out of of every us and hex oh heck's for sure we're the only ones that had jobs yeah hex more so than us and like multiple jobs hex more so than us and the thing with me it's like I

worked for three years I worked for three years and one of those years I was in school so I wasn't even dedicated to e-sports yet and then I had two years while I was working dedicated to I was working at Walgreens and then on the side I was pursuing e-sports so hex worked for like 15 years or some shit and then one day decided you know I hate this so I'm gonna do what I love so that's like people wonder how hex is such a grinder I mean obviously it's in his bloodstream yeah he talks about like how he grinded at that desk job yeah but but also like he he lived he did what we did but times that by like seven and a half and that's crazy some people are just hardwired like that Yeah, like, like Flame Sword, he is wired to like, he has, I know he used to sort of have insomnia, but like he, like, I'll hear him talk to people in the gym and they'll be like, you gotta get your sleep, blah, blah, blah, but Mike was like, like, how much you sleep?

So he put like, I'll try to get six hours. I'm like, try to get six hours. I need at least eight. Like, I'm, I can sleep for 12, but like at eight, I'm, if I feel, you know, good enough, I'll get up. Yeah. Maybe six at the least, but like, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not wired like that. I'm genuinely tired and can go back to sleep when I wake up. Like people like flames or people like hacks, they are not. They'll go to VET at 2 a.m. Their alarm will go off at 7 and it's like they, I'm sure there's plenty of days where they could go back to sleep that they're like, no, let's just get up.

Yeah. But at the end of the day, they're pretty hardwired to this. they're ready to get up they have the energy they don't feel like going back to sleep and it's just a certain way they're wired and that's kind of weird to me yeah like some people can just get four to six hours of sleep like this dude we met at the gym was saying he just he sleeps about like four hours every night i was like what the fuck yeah that's crazy how there are nights when like I will go to sleep really late. And I'll like, I'll like fall asleep with my mind, like constantly like going.

Like this, like there's there's something we're dealing with in work that I like, I'm like kind of stressing about. And and so it was like, oh, it was like, I got off my stream and then I started like thinking about it. And I was like, him. Like I just streamed for four hours. That's four hours where I can't focus on this, even just like mentally. So then I was just like freaking out about it. And I fell asleep on that like that like my mind going. So I woke up like five hours later like wide awake like extremely awake because of all that was like me at events when I used to compete

Yeah, when you wake up like you can't fall back and yeah you're like yeah Unless you're like ace like ace like events we team like people like ace would always be the last the shower Because it's like they just want to sleep and yeah everyone's ready yeah so yeah but then there's times when I go to sleep and I go to sleep and I I I'm either like clear of mind or like I've been awake for way too long. So I'm crazy tired. And then I'll sleep for like 10 to 12 hours. And it's like, so I have like my four hour nights and then I have my crazy lazy sleeping nights. Yeah, I'm usually.

I'm usually. I don't fucking. You're not usually anything. Yeah, I'm not usually anything. Sometimes I've seen you stay up for 48 hours and then I've seen you if I have a normal schedule and then i've seen you like right now i'm on a normal schedule yeah um if there's usually only video well music definitely was like a part of my non-sleeping period um but usually a video game has to be involved or i'm just addicted i have to be like addicted to something yeah

some kind of entertainment i'm actually surprised how you've done with world war two Yeah, I don't know. That's, I think you said it, I mean, you said it. And I, as much as I don't want to believe it, because I kind of want it, I kind of want to like, I want you to hold on to it. But I think you're over video games, man. It's weird. It's scary. Yeah.

It's weird. I don't like it. Because I can't like talk to you about anything. Like we, we had one conversation at the event about like something that like Damon did and you like called out. fire and you were like, you're like, why did David sit in fire in this one spot? And I looked at you and I was like, this is the first time we've talked this way in like six months. Like I can't even remember the last time. And it's, what's weird is like I planned on kind of playing at Dallas, but like with the move and everything.

And I kind of got out of my room for a couple of days, traveling, getting everything set up. Just like moving around everywhere. I was like, I do not want to go back to my brand new apart. brand new city brand new state brand new life yeah i just got this i don't want to go back to my place and play fucking god for no fucking reason i don't think and and to be honest i don't think any of us have the only time i ever play is if i'm playing if is is if blake and george can get on or i'm playing like a tournament and i'm streaming it and like then because like the stream will i it's all about of the stream eventually i'll uh i'll figure something out the stream i'll hop on

I wish I could just like I could but I wish I could like stream fucking just not a video game where I feel like I have to perform I guess. Yeah. Like my streams definitely pop off more when I'm like playing good. Yeah. I don't know. Something cool is happening. Not really when I'm just sitting there talking and like saying what's up to like people I like saying what's up to. How is a lot of doing?

She hasn't talked to me since I fucking like broke it off. I guess. I could actually tell for the few people, okay. For the there might be say this, okay. There's going to be a very small amount of people who actually fucking care. True. But all right. So should I even explain this?

Yeah, go for it. Dude, it was a big part. Like, there was like, not really. You had like 1,600 people in your stream, which means that in YouTube videos, that's like 9,000 people because 1,400 people are constantly circulating. Okay. Like a lot of people know. Yeah. Okay.

Well, back in the day when I was playing H1Z1, addictively, I ran into this chick, O'Lana, who killed me in a game. I didn't know it was a girl, but they had a pink lambie and I said something about the lambie. Realized it was a girl. realized she was streaming, went through a stream, and it's like a super cute Asian shit. And I was like, what the fuck? It screamed your type. Yeah. Yeah, it definitely was.

And then we started talking. And then we started playing. Then we were streaming together. Just a little bit. Nothing crazy at all. Yeah. And then it got to a point where I told her I liked her. And then she.

was like I mean she was like accepting of it like we were definitely flirty she like we talked about like seeing each other but then it got to a point where I think I don't think my mindset was in the right place but like I feel like maybe I was too needy or she was too insecure to like I guess give herself to me if that makes sense I mean like I And this is happening, like you said earlier, like 2017 was the year where we were going to, you, Seth and I were going to get hot and we were going to stay single the whole year. And then two months in, Seth and I get wiped up. We stopped working out. And then two weeks after that, this is when that Ollana thing happens.

So I don't know if that wasn't your head at all. Like I would I would text her and just like get responses that like didn't satisfy me. And that's such like a chick thing to say. Yeah. It's the first time I'm, it's the only time I've ever seen you like that. You're like, I don't know,

like, what is going on here? Like, what is she? I couldn't like read her. And I feel like I'm really good at reading people. Yeah. But it was like,

I was like self-conscious. I was like, the she even like me? Like, I'm like texting her. I'm getting like one word responses. Yeah. I was like,

but she like tells me, but she's. like I think liked me. Did she get like, tell me she liked me and shit like that. And it wasn't like, it wasn't the typical like you, you can see someone from afar like and you know they're just like getting played. It's like dude, she's not into you. Like you got to give it.

Like she was, I think she was genuinely into me. Yeah. I know she was. You couldn't tell if she was like insecure. crazy because she was like she would text you only a little once in a while she said something about liking her ex or like her she was where she just got out of a long this or long term or something i know she had she had an ex but i don't know and then also like didn't wasn't like a one or two instances where she like you like thought she was like jealous

no there was room it's like wait do you remember like i i showed you a tech this is so fucking girl and gossiping, but I showed you a text one time that she sent me and I was like, am I crazy or is she crazy? Do you remember like, yeah? Looking at, I forget what the text says or what it was about. Somebody came into your chat and you said hi to them like really flirting. It was like Chelsea maybe? No, no, it wasn't Chelsea, but I pretty much.

It's somebody that you like jokingly flirt with like and you have for years and you like said something to them like hey how are you like hey big head or something and then she saw that and then she texted you like what's going on yeah it was like something like that but i can't remember it was um yeah this is no disrespect to oh lana by the way like yeah we're just reminiscing on a time and nick's yeah relationship history i just i got a text from her over like a situation that i was just like i don't think this should be a situation yeah but like i guess her it was um but then even a little after that we still like kept talking but i guess that that was sort of like a red flag to me yeah and then as we're talking more and i feel fucking unsatisfied

with my with the responses i'm getting via text message and like um like because sometimes i'd fucking uh this is weird like want to talk on the phone or something yeah and we don't she just like goes to sleep without saying a word. And so then I told her one day, like, it's not going to work. We probably just shouldn't talk. And it's not like breaking up with her because we weren't dating. But it was just like, I get a very strong hint. This isn't going to work.

And it's not because of you or me. It's just not, I guess it's not going to work. Oh. So that was the, and Everest, I don't even think I got a text back. from that that's how it ended that's just how it and I haven't talked to her since and you know I have no hard feelings towards O'lana I hope they actually meet her one day that would be interesting it would because it would it wouldn't be like a yeah you we were it would be like that do you remember that

random month when there was no there's no like hostility at all yeah yeah and it was it was really fun for the really really fun for the stream to your stream was pop in a lot yeah right there started like the whole mom and dad thing mom dad I'd go into her stream where's dad it's mom it's like kind of little kids yeah but like we're the fucking mom and dad of you the Twitch streamer um I did like a Q and a stream last night and um I'm kind of like I kind of got to a point in my life where like certain like cliche uh certain cliche questions that people ask, I, I, like, answer them very, like, directly and very harshly.

Like, do you, I kind of do that. Do you, like, they were like, do you believe in love at first sight? And I was like, no. And then they said, do you believe that everything happens for a reason? I was like, no. And, like, I was just, and I was just, like, rapid fire answering. Like, I mean, what do you think about, let's just start at love at first sight? Yeah. Was it, you and Alana? Because obviously, you thought it was love at first sight. I would go into next room when he would be like just staring at his phone waiting for a text back I'm not gonna lie I'd like like I don't know there she was just like super my type

yeah she was um but uh yeah kind of you will even love it for a site I think I don't know if there's something all right I was talking to ace about this there's a like say the entire universe is a pool of energy fucking in the end this pool of energy there's different frequencies and like certain frequency or certain people are lined up on certain frequencies like I think me you tj APG formal at some points formal at some points like a we kind of line up on the same frequencies it's like sort of how you get your friend like make your friends yeah like friends yeah like I before I said a word to TJ ever I like knew he was going to be my friend yeah I agree but uh and I think that's kind of the same way for some females like you can look at

them and it's like they look at you and it's you just know I guess you're like on the same frequency that that I agree with I agree with that 100% that that is you Yeah, I think that is probably deeper than that. Yeah, yeah. I agree because there's, I mean, there are people that I've met where immediately it's like there are, there are qualities in people that are, they're not like off putting. They're just like, there are things that it wouldn't met. It wouldn't mesh. Like we like you have to like, yin and yang like would work out if you're like friends with somebody and if you, you know, if you're date, even if you're dating somebody like you can you hit you can be polar opposites in some.

situations, but there's some aspects of you, of how you are as a person that can't, like, they have to be the same. And, uh, and if you, if those, if those like qualities line up, then I feel like you're just going to get really attached. I feel like a lot of that's like humor. Yeah. I think humor is sort of one that has to line up. Yeah. I think just like overall outlook on like, on like life. Like there are some people that are just like super like airy and like carefree and that's like there's nothing wrong with that but they would line up with guys that are that way as well and then there's there's people that everything is the biggest deal like everything is serious and it's like it's constructed those are the worst for you but there are guys out there

and girls out there that are that way as well yeah and so it's like those qualities I feel like the big qualities like that and humor obviously is a huge one yeah um that if you line up then you guys are just connected to each other and then that's like connection at first but I don't think it's like I saw this girl and I knew I was going to be with her for the rest of my life. Yeah, I don't know. Fuck no. But me and my ex, like she was like our opposites were like I was like quiet. But like I never considered myself to not be social.

Like I always kind of like made friends somehow. But I'd never like talk that much. and but she fucking rambles and like that's what I like that's those somehow I end up with those chicks even though there's that's that is like a sort of a chick thing not really no

I don't think so I feel like I get chicks that talk a lot and maybe that is true I need that balances out like the not talking so it actually makes it compatible I agree I usually lean towards girls that are like they're like really organized really yeah and um that's fucking weird sam's really organized or sam's really organized but my my last two girlfriends were like anal organized like everything was and because and i think i'm because obviously you know me i'm i'm not well i feel like you have to get a girl or you have to get to know them to like realize they're organized oh i i mean i i mean i got to know

both all three of the people that I've ever dated. I've gotten to know them before I dated them. So I think that's, I mean, they're, they're saying social skills and then you're saying organization. That's just, that is true, I guess. Well, that's a weird like, that's, I guess it's just not a normal thing that people look at if we're like a girl. Yeah, well, I was trying to think of something that like counteracts.

Yeah, that's where my mind was. But because I think Sam and I, that's like the only thing that counts Because we have like pretty much identical humor and like you guys identical like personalities Which is yeah like strange for me. Yeah, I can see it you're like personalities and like the way you are at like Socializing is kind of yeah both will fucking dance and yeah have a good time Yeah speaking of who was a strip club the other day You knew it was coming as soon as I. Yeah, we went to the, so besides you, me, you, just so we know for the, so I don't have to cut.

Don't talk about anybody else that was there except for myself, you and Sam. So we were there with a group of people who were at a strip club. It was only the second time I've ever been to the strip club. Fun fact, Holly bought me a dance at my first strip club. Really? Yeah. Two years ago, I think. That's funny.

Before I was even enough, or three years ago. Three years ago, dude. Wait, before you were in the update? Yeah, remember, Nola when you, like, that event? When you got robbed. Holy shit. That's when Holly, because I was friends with Holly before I knew Damon.

So Holly, Holly was like, hey, let's buy my friend Davis a dance. He's never been in a strip club. So they bought me a dance. And then three years later, I go to the second strip club ever because Sam comes up to me. We were gone. It was bad. She comes up to me. she was like, we're going to a booby bar.

I was like, what? That's exactly how she would say it to. Yeah. And so then we were, we get there and it. And it's kind of all like a blur because we were just having such a good time, drinking wise. And I'm sitting there with one of my other really good friends, so I'm not going to say.

And he looks over it to me. And he was like, your girlfriend is, she might be gay. And I look over and I had given Sam like, oh, I'm, I don't, I should probably ask her, whatever. I don't think she would care. I give her, I gave her like $80 and ones. And I look over there as soon as my friend told me that.

And she's sitting on a chair and there's a girl in front of her. And she's sitting beside another girl in the community who is also getting danced on by another girl. And Sam's and I look I literally I can I will never forget this image she's I'm looking at her and she's going With a girl dancing on her with money in her hand like that was the happiest I've ever seen saying Dude it was hilarious That was like genuine happiness I know I literally look over and I was cheesing so hard dude She was like yeah smacking her button Yeah

Yeah it was funny meanwhile I was there sober yeah I cannot for the first time like because the night before that I went like so hard and had I went to the club and the strip club the night before that so that was my second night in the row

uh and the but the strip club I went to well first off the club was crazy it was really good place called bottled blonde then after that we went to the strip club which was the best strip club I've been to it was like wild like drake music video fucking for real like yeah because what we went to it was the one we we went to was trash straight trash yeah it's terrible but but we like made it good yeah at first i was like this is trash but there was just it was all of us more people kept growing in

that we knew and like the strippers got comfortable yeah like people started throwing money then it we kind of made our own party yeah in that section yeah yeah and there was nobody else in it. I just want people to visualize that we walked into this place. We were the only ones. It was definitely, it looked like a, it looked like a, like, you know when you go into like a roller skating rink and it's really bad looking? It's like terrible. That's how I imagine this strip club.

Yeah, pretty much. If they turn the lights on, there would be stains on the carpet and then just, it would be, it's like a gross place. But we sat in this one section and it was all of just, it was just all of us. And I was sober in between it all. I can't believe you're sober. Like I was saying, I had a crazy night the night before. So my stomach hurt. I wasn't.

I just didn't want to drink just because I just didn't want to drink. I just was feeling like trash or trash. But random, I was kind of in the hotel lobby like, all right, I think everyone's kind of like maybe go to their rooms, get asleep. And then someone came up with the idea of a strip club. It's like, why? No, I'm not going to say no. So I come with Yeah, and I just kind of sat back the whole time and

Enjoyed the show Enjoyed the show That was dude, it was That was a funny time That was a time Sorry mom if you're listening which I'm sure you are But that's yeah That's a situation that I will never forget

Just because just that vision of there There's a couple people in there that we ended up with them and just seeing them in And that environment is hilarious. But seeing Sam in that one situation, that'll be something I never, I never forget. So. Yeah. That was pure happiness. Yeah.

It like made me. I got to like sit back and kind of like people watch a little bit. Yeah. Oh, besides our fucking dancing. I think me, you. Yeah, I don't want to say anyone else's names. But me, you and a couple other like good friends were just dancing. Yeah, we were like obnoxiously.

Like just like like dancing to the music. Because all the obvious, I don't know obviously, but the girls, the like strippers like they swarmed to all the girls we were with. Because we were with like four or five girls. So like swarmed to the girls. And the guys. I won't put him out there. And the guys. I was about to say the guys that looked like they would forked over money.

As Aaron walks in with just like a polo shirt. I promise you I walked in and the first thing I see is like Aaron at the ATM what's too? He said around him. Oh my God. That's such Aaron shit. Yeah, but it was it was so fun dude. It was hilarious.

What time are we at here? 40, like probably like 40 minutes. Okay. I didn't know if it was like an hour and a half or 40 minutes. Dude, I thought. On our podcast, the Optic Podcast that we just filmed, I thought we talked for like an hour and a half, but it like barely hit like 55 minutes. Really? Yeah.

Because I thought we were talking forever. Yeah. I felt like that was, I don't know. What's like the time you try to, you want for the podcast? For the Optic podcast, I think an hour is good. But for the Flycast, I literally don't even care. That one. Yeah, pretty much depends.

Yeah. We did an episode of the Flycast. I was like an hour and 45 minutes long do you remember that really yeah it's what we were like talking about like I think I think after it we're like what the fuck yeah yeah we were that's why I was like I literally if you said 45 minutes I would have believed if you told me an hour 30 I would have believed yeah it's just I didn't know it's just simple because sometimes I feel like this is like too easy yeah right it's kind of like therapeutic I guess like we were we said that last time I mean I've said this before

in one of the flycast but the flycast never stops you guys just see the hour that it's recorded yeah whenever when we're driving yeah yeah whenever you and I hang out it's always talk talk talk yeah and just talk gossip yeah talk shit fucking get blame others yeah wonder fucking about life on the drive over here we're talking about shit what were we I don't know but you told me to stop yeah we're talking about Texas the fact we're in Texas you're just like I can't believe we're in Texas like why aren't we or like it seems like just yesterday we're at the oh yeah and we started talking about like one two three five yeah fucking yeah we kind of talked about that in the optic podcast but like it is fuck it is weird dude

It is weird. I wake up and I'm in my own place with, you know, with Sam and I can literally go upstairs to you and Aaron's room. And it's kind of like a, I mean, it is kind of like a better scuff house, but it's like a, because it's like more private. But then also there's, there's like this whole new age feel about what the hell is going on. And the fact that we're like geographically and like the other side of the nation. It is weird. That's sort of, that's one thing I agreed with Jay with whenever we kind of, I mean, people should know by now we talk to Jay. We talk to Hex about like what, what are we going to do?

How is this, how is the ship going to be ran? Yeah. And when we were talking to Jay, we were like kind of complaining about some things. And Jay was just like, you got to enjoy the process too. and that's one thing I agree with him on for sure it's like it's definitely can be heck of course for you probably more than me more hectic and stressful but I think in the long run you'll probably wish you weren't as stressed about it and fucking I agree enjoyed the like Jay said just enjoy the process enjoy the fucking madness of it yeah because it is fucking people

People don't just like, people don't just get up and move across country with like a and three weeks notice, two weeks notice and kind of form a new life there. People don't do that when it's literally, oh, husband, a wife, and a dog. Like they'll move across country and it's still like a half a month to a month process. We're moving the most successful e-sports organization in the entire place, planet and we're moving them or moving everyone every to like one city like 20 plus people just 20 and 30 and then branches while all of that is going on the move is happening we're also I mean

for we're also changing everything about optic and I mean and it's not a bad thing it's nothing to stress it's nothing to like stress over but everything is changing. Like, like, Optic was very, people, people will say it in the comments. People will say it on Reddit. Optic is very family oriented. It's very, oh, like 60-50, nade shot scump and Merck, like, and scuff house, it's very smooth competition. Like, it's very, like a group of people who love doing content with each other hanging out all the time. And that's what Optic was. And then, you know there was a part of those people happened to be the best at at a certain video game but it has since changed as e-sports has evolved and optic needs to you know stay on top and we can't

there's no possible way we could do that forever but because it was such it was so close-knit and it was so like the circle was so tight that there's there's a lot that you know as these other organizations that didn't care about the family part of it that they just wanted to build a business they started and they built it like that and now they just missed out on the family part Oh 100%

The family part isn't something you can just like Make Let's make a family house Yeah Like people when people always say Take them out of the house Get new contact I give everyone a lisp

That just talk shit Get them out of the house Yeah Screw those guys But Yeah, like say Hex, I don't know if I've said this in a fucking podcast before, but like, okay, say Hex kicked all of us out of the house and got new content creators. You guys would enjoy fucking that like random content creators living with each other. Yeah. It's forcing to make videos and like none of it's genuine. None of it came from years of being with each other. Like people have got to see like this whole thing grow not be fucking forced like a job. And it's not and it's like like legit family type shit and it's like yeah exactly they've seen it they've seen it grow from you know scump and nade making videos, you know at their houses and then the idea of a team house coming together and then the house comes together and it's like content goes through the roof and practice goes through the roof and then there's like stale times in that where they like there's bickering in between the house and then they start doing Minecraft and then it boosts up again and and then it goes into the scuff. house obviously we're always like that and it's like at first scuff house was fucking pop dude it

was the thing yeah it was popping with the fucking smooth comps everyone lived there or fucking in the area yeah then you see other organizations start to do house reveals and and and like in within call of duty and it's like but are those even like working for them i mean yeah the only people i know is us or phase and that's like the only thing i see working and then i was going to say TK, I see TK, but I don't know. Well, I'm just not into, I guess, e-sports enough to even fucking know, but I don't really know how they got there, I guess.

Like, I don't know the backstory of how, like, that house was foreign. But, like, other than that, it's like, these people, these other teams already, like, missed out on the fucking, like, family fucking house. Like, there's nothing like this. Yeah. And you can't, I mean, it is,

It is a very difficult task, which is what we're doing right now, to go from family into, how are we going to fit this family style into this massive infrastructure that is... We're becoming the big baller brand. Yeah, exactly. That is e-sports. It is like optic now. But that being said, it is very difficult to do that, but it is impossible to go from big style corporate e-ports to figuring out where a family is. Like nobody...

That's what we're like not necessarily blessed because we fucking... and like earned it. Yeah. Like that us being the people we are made us, got us to where we're at. Mm-hmm. So it's like no one can discredit that. But at the same time, like there is a sense of luck that like, Hex exists, that Jay exists, that.

Sure. That, that Nate and Seth basically built her. Okay, Nate and Seth didn't build optic. A lot of people say that. Hex build Optic. Optic because it was the biggest sniper team on YouTube and then Nate and Seth took it to the next level. Yeah. And without all that, like obviously we came along in the later parts.

But not to say that it was luck, but we're definitely blessed as far as like will, like you said, like Optic will always have the family thing and like not saying we're set like, oh, we're the family of Optic. set for life because that's not the case at all yeah but we do there's something i don't know we just we have something people can't take away from us yeah and uh i don't know it's you can't know it's you can't know i don't know we're just blessed to have it i guess yeah just blessed to be a part of the journey fucking weird crazy never would have expected journey yeah and and like i guess the beginning point of all this is that it is like that's that's where we are you know we we weren't given this move this move and we weren't given this like whole

transition and there was a checklist of what all was going to happen it was kind of like we're doing this then and then we'll figure out something that we're else that we're going to do later it's because optic was this family organization and everybody else was killing it and in like corporate out here and they were like doing they were like treating it as if it was like a like a sports organization like a national sports organization which it is uh but we were like kind of like that's kind of whack like we don't want to do that like we want to we have this thing going so well for us and then we were like well we have to do this now so now we're like kind of behind and like a lot of machine the fucking machine's too big yeah to where like I mean you've got to I guess got to do what you got to do yeah so there's a there's a lot like there's a lot like even in that that's just I can only talk about my lane which is content and there's a lot that we're behind on you know like we have I'm I'm I'm super grateful for you know what what we've done and and and what all hex is you know you know been able to provide like heck that's hex is iMac that's hexus 5d

that I'm shooting on like all of that like I'm super grateful for all that but I look over like we have the Aaron and I have the worst equipment in Eastport like out of the top like 12 teams and it's not that's not hexas because we were still killing it with what we did so there's no reason to get us more but it's like now now that now that we're playing this game now and we're not family anymore like or we are family but we're not like just that we're playing this game and these are our direct competitors we have to match them and so even just content wise just Aaron and I sitting in an office like over the past two weeks that's all we're focused on focused on is building a team and and getting caught up to to where we need to be in order to still like crush it and so that's that's what my life has been

for the past two weeks i was going to say i don't know like i don't know where other teams are at like i'm just not familiar with your lane as far as competing with uh i don't even know with like what other teams do as far as like media and yeah well YouTube and whatever video series is they're doing I don't I don't know what anyone's doing besides us I mean it's still like even us I don't fucking know I mean it's still like this the same is like kind of but optic has always been you know you do it on your own and that's what fans will love like like like forcing like I don't know say team Java over here has is the best Overwatch team in the game.

And they have five players that every once in a while, once a week, they force to do a mean tweets video. That video, 10 times out of 10 is going to be shot with better equipment, edited in a better equipment, put out in higher quality than our videos. But our videos are going to do 30 times better because our, you know, because the personalities within Optic have worked hard to create that, like, personality. It's just like a fucking say

ESPN. Say Optic is the ESPN of fucking ESports. Fucking people expect content e-sports content out of Optic and they're much more likely to go to Optic to watch esports content even if the content is lower.

Say ESPN has like good content but like some random fucking station has way better equipment and fucking they're shooting the best shit but like people go to ESPN yeah exactly yeah and which that's what has been I mean that's what that's is what we need to take advantage of yeah exactly it's already being that machine and not falling behind yeah and it's like that just not fucking enough and then and I see not all the time but every once in while I'll see on Reddit or on in comments or on on my Twitter that like this whole infrastructure thing is is a bad move and it's not because the people

do you not fucking noob yeah and the people because the people that work here yeah obviously but the people that work the people that work here and the people that understand what's going on know that the only reason that this is successful in the first place is because of the family environment that is optics so we're just playing off of that and there just happens to be people around us nothing but better exactly yeah we're noob yeah i don't even need to explain yeah yeah so i guess like my my focus is getting everything where i would want it to be and i'm i'm shooting for like middle of march i want to be like in the middle of march i want to be rolling want to be comfortable yeah

know what like what the hell is going on like like i want to have the team that i'm i'm literally like at the beginning of oceans 11 when he's like what team do you want haven't i don't know at the beginning of fast and the furious five and they're like have you ever seen fast five i don't think i only watch the good ones i only watch number one and two really well because what is my favorite movie probably maybe of all time besides a matrix two faster furious fast and furious the original Well, in Fast 5, they take the two different sets of Fast and the Furious, and they put them both together in one movie, which is like Tokyo Drift. And then they're like building the team at the very beginning, which is what they do in Ocean's 11. So that's where I feel like I'm at right now is I'm building this team.

And before we know, we would have been talking about movies. That ship would have not been finished. How you feel an optic would have never been finished. I was about to go too. I was about to be like, well, and then I was like, wait. I would have talked about my favorite movies. You would have talking about your favorite. And then people in the comments are like, what was he going to say?

Yeah, so I don't, I mean, I was just, I was telling you that because I've never really told you that. And also, like, I haven't kind of, I've never really, like, said that on, on camera. So that's, that's pretty much where I am. And so, and then in the middle of, I know I'm, like, ranting, but in, in the middle of all this, while I'm, like literally like I'm watching like million like millions like I'm watching like hundreds of highlight real videos from like different videographers in the scene and like trying to figure out if if there's anybody else that that wouldn't you know be good and and and I have like literally a list of of names and what they're what the pros and cons are

and I'm talking to Roger about who he would want to work with and then I'm like talking on the phone with all these other people and then in the middle of all that I'll get a tweet and it's like, it's like, vision's late. Like, do you even do anything anymore? And I'm just like, holy shit, vision. I forgot about vision. But I don't know. I will openly say that I am overwhelmed right now,

but I also very much enjoy it. It's exactly what Jay said. Because Jay, I feel like you hate or you stress, I don't you're almost like my mom like she's not happy unless she's stressed I can agree with that like when my mom is the least happiest I think that's when she's like on the couch doing nothing but when she can come home and bitch about work or like yeah yeah I can agree with that to a certain extent i mean there are some things when i am stressed that like actually i would very much like that to get fixed i think like probably a week maybe two weeks ago it was like just when we first moved here

and i saw you like you look you look like shit you fucking it was you're like walking around bug eyes like fucking shoulders down just like looking around thank god that week ended there was literally like that that week that week ended with like one meeting and after that meeting I was like i literally walked out of the room and i i was like that's the first time i've taken like a real breath in like five days. I remember before that when we were driving there I got in the car and looked at you and I was like are you nervous and you're like yes yes very much nervous. I knew you were yeah I mean it's like i mean if i can you just sense it yeah because this this this i don't know there's like so so much going on like so like it's crazy how much is going on like

i think what the public knows about what is going on it's like 10 percent of what is actually going on and and just knowing that they just don't understand and i don't even understand like i see all the teams but what people don't think about is everything required behind these teams to like keep keep it uh i guess at the top yeah and for lack of better words but it's like there's like a fucking team behind each team to make shit work it's like a team behind it's like a team behind each like e-sports team and then behind that team is like a company and it's like gee it's it's it's fucking i don't know it's crazy dude it is it is it is a situation that obviously I've never been involved in

and I think a majority of people have never been involved in and I'm obviously like all I've ever done Well there's no blueprint laid out for you Yeah all I've ever done in my entire life is just Grind to make YouTube videos and now I'm like I'm kind of having to like grow up and like in certain situations I'm having to fight for the team which is what I want to do In other situations I'm trying to fight for myself And then other situations I'm trying to calm people down so they don't

They don't do something stupid and then at another situation like we're all working together and everything's like we're killing it and we're doing things how it's supposed to be done so there's like a lot of growing up that I've had to do and a lot of like maturing and you know thank God for Hex and Jay because they've kind of like both like they've they've been stern with me and they've both been uh you know also like whenever I come to them with something that is actually a problem they didn't like they didn't say oh well I'm like 10 years older than you so like you wouldn't understand like they they hear me out and they're like they're like reason with me you know what i mean and that's something i i could tell from hey or j i haven't

known as long obviously and obviously not as close with as hacks coming to the house every day yeah bargain three years or whatever but yeah that's one thing i could notice i think about hacks is like there's like you feel like you could go through to him like I've I've like counted on him in certain situations yeah and I feel like I knew I could count on him yeah and there's like kind of a part of it's beyond fucking CEO member like it's like friend oh for sure and there's a part of this there's a part of this entire change and this entire like situation where I feel like hex even more so has like latched on to what is optic to what is

that the scuff house and the cod team and the and the gears of war and the halo kids yeah it's like it's like it's like no matter i i'll say this and i don't even whatever if i get in trouble i get in trouble but like hex was looking at me and he and he looked at erin and he was like dude you know what i just realized erin is the last of his kind erin is the last airbender of optic like he's the last person that came on before this whole thing happened and he joined he joined optic how people have been joining optics since 2006 and now nobody else will join that way everything else will be an employment or some sort of other thing and and and i think like i think that that in hex's mind is exciting but also is a realization that this like this is optic family close

Yeah. Number one song on Drake's album the views. Keep your fucking family. It's like everything from when when Hex acquired Optic by crew or like he got he got he joined optic every ever since Hex joined optic up until Aaron create is Hex's baby. That's where we got to end. Yeah. We end on. He is the and he's the perfect little shit brother. Like he is definition of last kid in the family. he's the way yeah like that four was 19 and doesn't realize how good he has no yeah that's but he did earn it he did earn it like without a doubt earned it so yeah i got to give him his respect like to be 19 and like he figured it out some way like you don't just fucking end up here dude he he did something that took like it takes guts like I was working in Intel. I was working at I was working I was working in Intel and we were he was going to high school because he was still in high school and I was working at Walgreens and we had this other guy and the three of us were just running this YouTube channel and I would record after I got

home from Walgreens and send them the videos and they would edit it. That's how we ran a YouTube channel for like for like a year and then I joined Optic Aaron is offered a job. as a designer for Optic and Aaron leaves his senior year of high school to be homeschooled and he goes and completes high school at home while working for Optic as a designer continuing to learn how to design better and taking on clients and that he started making money and his parents said if you're going to do this you have to pay for rent and he started paying rent making money and then eventually joins Optic and lives in the CS in the scuff house because he decided to be homeschooled in high school how how crazy is that and then you see him

on video just like you little shit like how did you end up here yeah and then everyone else fucking fans or something oh i don't know i don't know if i've ever even seen that comment but someone only hates somebody and thinks they whether they don't deserve it or also i hope erin is cool with me telling that story but if not i'm sorry yeah whatever whatever what's he gonna do yeah whatever we could it'll we could beat him up um yeah all of it like i feel like everyone who's in the like optic fan fucking family we got a gruff house okay everyone from like the scuff house days and even like the nades nade shot yeah scump obviously but but not a little less for them i've heard the term old optic but that sounds terrible because

optic is still optic uh old optic makes sense you think so o g optic original og ogy ogy ogy o g uh uh uh but what it takes from everyone that is like become a figure and optic everyone had like a leap of faith to fucking you know how many like people think it's easy but The hardest part was taking that leap of faith to fucking move across country to ask HECS, to approach Hax with a documentary series idea, to what Aaron did, fucking homeschooled from high school to fucking practices, fucking art. yeah umbo's and mike pretty much doing the same shit i do moving like mike had like mike had red bull pretty much like dropped red bull to like be an optic and like there's a lot of shit people do fucking and just moving your whole life moving out of your parents house to a random area

you don't know to start a random career you have no experience in youtube yeah at least for me mike and knows like it it a leap of faith is harder to do then work probably that makes sense it is harder and what people don't understand is it's it's more stressful yeah working going to work and i don't i wasn't that stressed when i work same i just like life wasn't that good yeah but like i woke up say usually my schedule is was on the evenings, it'd be like from two to nine or something like that. I'd wake up. It might be like noon.

I would go to the gym sometimes. Sometimes I'd go after work. Sometimes I just wouldn't go. It's pretty much like it is now. But I'd wake up. I knew what I needed to do. And that was arrive at work and then do my job. I had friends at work.

It wasn't that bad. I'd talk to them while doing my shit. And then work would end and maybe hang out, go home, practice Halo. Actually, yeah, it was always go home and practice at Lavo. Sometimes, I can go out and drink or whatever I did. Yeah. But it was like a pretty easy, basic. But I was also broke as fuck.

Yeah. And not not. Not. Not, yeah, no, I was. Yeah. I was pretty broke. Oh, dude, I was. That's an understatement for me.

I mean, I've heard horror stories of you too Whenever you were working at I remember borrowing $5 from my brother Just to get to work So I can just to get to the gas station Put $5 in And then get to work Because that was like payday or some shit

Yeah, I mean, oh dude I remember like Like whenever my mom would come to visit Just asking her Obviously I love my mom And I love hanging out with her But just asking her if she wanted to go to dinner or like go to lunch so that I can eat something besides ramen and like pb and j like well just

knowing your mom's going to pay yeah because my mom's going to pay like and whenever i'm in college when you go home now do you pay yes yeah like every time or i try as much as possible i don't i'm sure i have but i like it's weird i i can but i i like want my mom to feel like she's like taking care of her baby so yeah yeah i understand that too and i've always kind of like confused on like how you should feel or not and i always wonder because whenever i do pay i'm like i got it and she's like are you sure and i always think like i wonder if i hope she's not like i hope it's not weird for her like i hope it's like i just want whatever is more comfortable for my mom yeah like i don't know and i don't know the answer of whether it's me paying or her yeah but she seems like like i don't know i don't know

I like just getting like her out of the house and like should whatever I feel is the right thing to do I let happen yeah I think I don't know I'm like let her think but mom wants to like take care of her baby forever yeah 100% and I don't know I think to some extent we're looking too far into it because just the fact we're home is enough yeah Because I know my mom really, she like kind of, she tries to hide the fact how much, how happy she is whenever I get home and she's hanging out with me. What do you do when you are home when there's like nothing to do? Like in those hours between like waiting on like, say there's like a four hour period on you just got done out to eat with them. And like you might, you're not, you know, like hang out with a friend or something to like later. You're just hanging out. Either my mom and I, like sometimes, like, sometimes we'll just do something. Like, she lives on the beach, so it's a little bit, that's kind of cheap.

So whatever we come home, literally, this is how, this is how it'll probably go over Christmas break. I'm going to go home and then we're going to go out to one of her favorite places to eat. Then we're going to come back and we're going to take an hour nap. And then we're going to walk on the beach. and then we're going to come back and like watch a movie and fall asleep. And that's like one, like that's like a typical routine. But obviously within all that, we're like talking and catching up and figuring things out. Also, I always wait every year until December to watch the new Star Wars with her.

So I'm going to do that as well. What does it come out every year? Comes out. Yeah, well, ever since Disney bought out Star Wars, they have. I've put Star Wars on like a yearly cycle. So the last. Dudey. Yeah.

Last two years, there's been a Star Wars out. So the next one is coming out. Yeah, I don't know what I do. Today, I think, today. It's like, we'll eat, talk. And then there will be like that time where it's like, I guess, nap time. Yeah. And I'll go upstairs either fall asleep.

And then usually I'll try to like pick a friend. And because say I'm home for four or five nights, there'll be like one night I stay in. Then like I try to like pick because my all of my friends aren't friends with each other. So I kind of have to like pick certain days. They hang out with like or certain nights thing out with certain people because they fucking work. Yeah. Yeah. And are only off at night.

Yeah. So I'll just pick different people to hang out with and try to make people happy. Yeah. while i'm home because it is it is fucking weird it is weird i i feel like i have and i know you probably feel this way too i feel like i have like the best friends like all of my friends are like better people than me like i can agree with that like i have really good friends yeah like not like good really good people yeah like there are people i trust like for life yeah for sure i mean the people a lot of my friends

I guess there's only really like three or four but all the people that are at home you know at home like pursuing their careers still in North Carolina that I go home and visit you know they they all we all went to middle school and high school together and they saw me go through they were there in my house

as I was going through like the worst times in my entire life and vice versa I've been with them through through their hard times. And so once you do that and once you're that close with somebody and then obviously you were best friends with them already, like it's something that you like never forget. And it's like kind of unfair for everybody else that you've met in your life because as close as you'll ever get to them, you were never there during those moments. You know what I mean? And so that's that's kind of how I feel about about back home is like family. Once you go through crazy stuff, like family, you'll always be attached to them, you know,

even closer than you already were and then those friends like those are friends for life no matter what like uh something i don't think i'll ever forget is like shortly after my dad passed away my best friend eric like i didn't invite i was i was mea fucking i didn't invite him over i didn't want to talk to anyone uh but one day i just wake up and he like walked in my room and he was just like hey how are you doing and i just like gave him typical answer like it sucks and shit but But, and then he just, like, sat there on, like, my computer chair. And we didn't even talk. He just, like, sat there for, like, an hour or two.

And just, like, as I laid there, I guess. And, like, we would talk every now and then. But, like, it just showed his, like, effort to, like, be there. Yeah. Because he literally just fucking sat there. It was just, I guess, there for me if I needed him. Yeah. But, like, friends like that, it's fucking.

It's crazy. Yeah, I mean. It's nice. The day, like, yeah, the day my dad passed away as well, like, you know, all the craziness happened at, like, probably, like, 6 to 7 p.m. And then by 9 p.m., Brandon and Blake were both in my living room. And they both, you know, they both, you know, they, they stayed there they did whatever you know whatever the fuck you're supposed to do yeah like and and

it's like what what what are i'm i'm 18 one of them's probably 18 one of them's probably 17 and they're dealing with this like like you know and it's it's something that it's something that you don't think about in the time because obviously if it happened to them as well i'd be there but it's something that's like it probably it's probably something that like affected them as well it's like oh yeah yeah it's like you're you're watching somebody that it's all fun in games in high school until until something like that happens just starts happening yeah what the fuck yeah and so like like there are images of my there are images that are constantly rolling through my head like uh i mean it happens all the time that i just like think about i you probably do it as well

like you go back and you think about that night or that like time in your life and and and like there's there's just an image of of of of Blake like sitting on the couch like this or like or brand it because brandon was like always beside me and it's like it's like like the those images I remember how I was sitting when I found out yeah is is a I don't know it's weird just certain times in your life that you're not going to forget yeah it's like it's like I don't know how deep you want to get into this so it's like I don't know how deep you want to get into this that's like I don't yeah yeah i don't i don't want to get into it but there's just like certain situations you just like feel like it's it's not like the hard parts or like you're talking to somebody it's like really weird shit that you remember is that i remember um i just remember the position i was i feel like i was watching myself from a third person and i was say like this was my bed this table i just remember being on the floor on my knee just like face down in my bed yeah and that that's like always been what I think about

that that's like what that's a picture that comes to my head is like how I was it's like I could just see myself in third person of us yeah all right that's been it for the flag thanks for listening oh what be yeah An hour and 20. The one thing that I didn't want to talk about about the flycast is with, I brought up at the very beginning is that like with this, with this whole like move and rebirth of optic content, I guess because we're so like happy right now. That was a weird way to say it.

But the flycast, it's something that we like to do a whole lot. and it's something that you guys are consistently asking us about and so whenever we do this we don't just want to like randomly do it we want to eventually get to a point where it's like once or twice a week and then we also kind of want it to be on more than just one platform which is side note also what we're trying to do with with the optic podcast or optic not trying also what we're going to do so how do you want to do that like um i would just say for the people listening or watch watching. We're trying to figure out right now like this I don't know if this is going to be your podcast room for the nation channel or what but what we're figuring out is how do we what do we

want to do with the flycats as far as like we're not going to use any of this like we're going to pretty much figure out our own where do we want to record at we need we're going to buy mics figure out all that stuff um I'm sure or we'll just end up using a camera that we already have. Yeah. There's some just around. Yeah. But yeah, we're going to figure out a whole separate scene for the flycast other than that has nothing.

That will not be the same as the Opting Nation podcast. Like it's going to be our own shit. Yeah, literally like in the next two days, I'm ordering this and the, and like different mics and stuff. And then we're going to set up in somewhere in one of our apartments. Yeah. Like it could be in our apartment. It could be in a random fucking office here. We don't know what, but we just know we're going to figure something out.

Yeah. That makes it our own. And any time we want to record, we record and it's there. True. It wasn't like what it was before where it kind of have to be on a time thing. Yeah. For shit to actually be there. Yeah.

And how do you want to? to do like putting audio on different what do you mean like i don't even know how to do like apple or iTunes podcasts or spotify and like sound cloud we'll have to figure out i'll have to figure out but we are going to do that we might need some i would like to bet you owl could help us al for what that shit yeah he could probably just like put we can give him the file i'm just put it on everything he's got the connects and apple how the fucking i just i just think he just he's just a grinder well i don't i just have no idea what it requires to like get that same but yeah what whatever fucking you need to do what you will figure out and get it in there it's a it'll be a fucking

journey enjoy the process yeah but the next flycasts i just i death our goal is to definitely have our new scenery i agree i agree room wherever we're at we want to figure that out because we just have to amazon prime it yeah all right well thanks for laughing with us joking with us crying with us really weird that's gonna do it yeah wait do we have outro music