The Flycast - Halo Worlds, Niac's Return to Streaming & OpTic Subathon | The Flycast Ep. 122

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's Halo World Championship weekend. We got a BTH X-Scump collab at shop.com. Isn't that right, Matt Craig? Dude, I sounded so loud in this. Dude, you were like, boop, boop, pooh. I was screaming in my ears. It was like fucking reverb. It was hard to even talk.
Starting point is 00:00:41 That is hilarious. Shop. Dot octagaming.com. Get the plug out of the way. I'm actually beside you, man. Don't throw him on the floor. Like, you got to respect them. I have a whole costume.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Do you? Yeah, like the. Are you going to wear it on the? I mean, actually, let me just. Oh, God. Nick woke up on the right side of the truck bed this morning. He, he texted me and said, yo, I got to go pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Oh, my God. It's a whole. This will be me watch party weekend this weekend. dude be careful of your like dick area this was like 150 bucks i randomly found it on uh i don't even know where i found it it might have been to amazon just a master chief costume my god it's like pure spandex it's the cheapest shit ever yeah and i was gonna wear this but i thought it might get too hot but uh but you're gonna wear it for the watch party i'm gonna try anything for views these fucking
Starting point is 00:01:47 days. Nick is finally back. Yes. The stream is back. It's been fucking. The runs are back. He's vlogging every day of October. See, vlogging is the only thing I'll think about. And I'll be like, no, there's no chance. The Twitch streams, yes. We're obvious. I think this is dropping Friday.
Starting point is 00:02:07 So today, we're live watching the Halo Worlds. Unfortunately, Seth didn't want to go to Seattle. What Seth wants is what we all want what Seth wants we all get so yeah
Starting point is 00:02:25 shop dot opticgaming com check out the merch me and me and skump collab god bless Seth thank you for this opportunity I won't let you down besides that oh what's going on in the world
Starting point is 00:02:37 besides war wait what are you talking about did you see the clip with the fucking missiles just being you haven't seen that no Have you seen the headline of... What is it?
Starting point is 00:02:51 Iraq sends 150 missiles to Israel. And there's actual footage of 150 missiles in the sky. What? You haven't seen that? No. Are we allowed to pull that up? Yeah, I'm assuming it's on news stations everywhere. Yeah, it's got to be on like YouTube.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Iran bombed fucking Israel, because I don't want to get anything wrong. So not Iraq. Iran bombed Israel sent 150 missiles What the fuck Imagine that Like this is some shit you would like Hear about But like
Starting point is 00:03:33 And they all just They all just hit It's like you would think this is like the end of the world type Like this is how the world will sort of end But like you'll never see it in your lifetime But to actually see On film it's bad enough imagine
Starting point is 00:03:50 actually seeing that in real life Wow There was um I mean that's gotta be People have got to be I mean I've heard the term What I've heard the term
Starting point is 00:04:02 World War III a lot in my life But Bro I mean dog There was a There was a Twitch streamer Who lives in I guess Israel Somewhere around here
Starting point is 00:04:15 And he was live streaming And then like The fucking almost like tornado sirens I guess it's just like the we're getting fucking bomb sirens started going off and he had to like get off it like he left his stream on
Starting point is 00:04:29 but like he had to like go and take cover or some shit the fuck dude that's so unreal I can't even imagine looking up like you're in a downtown area and you're looking up and you're just like it's not like you can run it's not like a tornado it's not like you can just like get like
Starting point is 00:04:45 you're like oh shit a storm's coming you're like what do you just have to pray it doesn't come to you. Yeah. Like it can hit three blocks away. And I bet you if it hits three blocks away, you're like, oh shit. Like, we're probably good because another one won't hit this close. Dude, that's fucking terrifying.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I honestly, it's almost like, I don't know, you hear about like one missile. But the 150 missiles never, I don't think in my lifetime I ever thought I would see something like that people just dude people just go like they just go for it like I can't imagine making that decision where you're just like you're in your iran and you're like uh yeah let's let's send 150 yeah like what are they is there like an iran fucking xucc shot beam up dude the hell no dude that's actually really scary i'm not i'm not i'm not gonna fucking put a front up or something uh that's just really really fucking scary the fuck I cannot imagine.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Dude. And it's like, I don't know. Israel just slamming cod ranked? Probably slamming me in Erie. He's just fucking balls deep into cod ranked in October? Why are you laughing, Matt? Yeah, that might be. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:06:20 That's actually might be more insane than the 150 missiles. That's fucking crazy. Not to fucking even crack a smile or laugh at this type of But first off, that's fucking insane that he's still playing cod ranked And it's also I have no idea Matt is dying No, I'm not, obviously I'm not
Starting point is 00:06:41 It's just I just didn't, I was surprised by that But also that is terrifying Yeah, this whole fucking thing is I don't know You don't even know how to talk about it Because it's so fucking insane. Like to actually,
Starting point is 00:06:58 I'm so, I realize it more and more. Just my little... Sorry, I keep hearing Matt. I'm trying not to last. My little bubble that I fucking live in is just simply not how the world works. No.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Like even when I think of... It doesn't matter if I'm thinking of just how we get food and groceries and electricity. fucking to just e-sports. Like I still think Optics the biggest and fucking Scumps number one ever. I'll say that around Hector, man. Because he is number one. Hector's been defensive lately.
Starting point is 00:07:37 About Seth? About Seth and Optic. He was, we went to the diner this morning. He seemed a little. Him and Roger were just talking, spitting out ideas, trying to get like everything figured out for next year. I'm like, maybe he does work. who hector yeah he works like you where it's like he works sometimes and then other times he
Starting point is 00:07:58 chill i'll see him doing graffiti at 1 p.m i'm like what do even do you know and i send that to him no i actually don't send that to him you call him banksie you're like you're kind of like the banksy of optic he's fucking he actually like gets offended that's a street artist dude hector texted me at 1 a.m and said i bully live and i was like what he said he's I bully live? He said, I bully live at home. And I was like, what? And I'm like, why did he, did he, did he text me this on accident?
Starting point is 00:08:31 And then I remembered in the fly cast, we talked about how homeschool kids need to be bullied more. And I was like, dude, you can't just sing this with no context. And then he said, and also I think I want to play Eldon Ring. And I was like, dude, I think he's like, I think you're very, I think he was just baked. Yeah. He, because he had a tour, he went to Oklahoma yesterday. Yeah, that's what we all, I mean, that's what I do every night. You go to Oklahoma?
Starting point is 00:08:59 Just drive two hours north. Drive up to Oklahoma with Matt Craggs, he is family. Well, I actually. Smoke is spliffy. What's the difference between a spliff and a blunt? Spliff has tobacco inweed. What does blunt have? Well, a spliff.
Starting point is 00:09:13 What does joint have? Unless I'm just blacking out right now, but I'm pretty sure a spliff is just like a joint with actual like cigarette tobacco sprinkled in. Blunt, it's just like a swisher sweet wrap that has tobacco in it, but you take the tobacco out. And then a joint is just papers. Yeah, just paper and weed. With no tobacco.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yeah. Spliff's fucking pro. The more you learned. I'm a, I mean, it's been for date. How sketch doing? I did this and I forgot. Where the fuck is sketch? I forgot why I did it. And then I was like, Sketch did that.
Starting point is 00:09:49 That's what. I feel like I haven't seen him since. Think about how worldwide he was a couple months ago. He ain't dying, is he? No, he's good. I mean, I'm pretty sure he's good. I'm pretty sure he's good. Last I saw he was doing like a Madden stream with in the NFL, so I'm sure he's fine.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Didn't he introduce, like, the Texans? Dude, that's so into fucking. That was before the situation with him, though. Yeah, that's good, though. So are you still doing his thing? And he's still getting brand deals, which is going. Good. Wait, what were we talking about right before this? I had something to say. Before the sketch thing, what were we talking about? Hector bullying, Liv. Hector bullying.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Driving up to Oklahoma. Oh, the weed shit. How's your, because I was going to say, I think yesterday I had an epiphany of I need to stop the weed shit. It's so. I've stopped. I ran for a couple days. I've been sick for two weeks, so I haven't run, and I've still lost like nine pounds, Just off of not smoking weed. What of the benefits you've seen from not smoking? Just the food part? No, I'm also, like, more motivated because I'd sleep.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I'd sleep instead of smoking and eating and pounding my face with Taco Bell every day. So then I wake up and I'm like, oh, the day when I used to wake up like this. Still actually just high from the fucking edibles. Yeah, you come, like, when you smoke and then go to sleep, you like, some people love it, but I, like, feel like I'm coming out of,
Starting point is 00:11:20 of a coma. See, I feel like, I feel like, I've gotten addicted to, like I need it now to sleep. Like, I need edibles to sleep. And I even, Michelle, not bitches, but,
Starting point is 00:11:37 like, she'll say all the time that she doesn't, okay. She'll say all the time, like, she likes me better. Because she'll get home from work. God, I've been,
Starting point is 00:11:49 I've been feeling like such a loser lately She'll be she'll get home from work And I'm just fucking fried And I'm like Just lazy Lazier than usual In bed Don't really want to talk
Starting point is 00:12:03 Like I'm not like Ignoring or shooing her away Or I like acting annoyed But I'm just tired I'm fucking high as shit And it's just It's starting to affect My day to day
Starting point is 00:12:17 And then I'll Then I'll random smoke or eat too many edibles and then I'm just paranoid and then I still I don't I genuinely I mean I know we say this episode this every episode but I don't know what's fucking wrong with me weed literally gives me anxiety and like paranoia and I freak out and I over thinking but I still do it because out of that two hour of anxiety attack there's like 15 minutes where I lock into like TikTok or YouTube and I find and I feel like stimulated like being sober so that's a that's not good ratio which I can't even like say anymore because I've dranked and
Starting point is 00:13:00 weed but like being sober it's just the fucking hardest thing my brain is just I want to get a brain scan there might be a fucking hole in my brain I'm not even joking Yeah, get one. I genuinely think, and this is a warning to all you addie freaks out there. Stop. Stop while you're ahead. Because I swear my brain, because I have a hole in my brain. I can't think.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Anxious all the time. No focus. I'm never locked. Never stimulated. I'm pretty sure my just dopamine receptors or whatever are just fraud. Like they just don't. They just don't work. they used to. And my God, I forget those good old days of just being doped up. Remember when we played
Starting point is 00:13:55 2V2, what wasn't me? Me, you, Blake and George, we played 2 v2 shipment shipment sabotage for like four hours. Four hours. That type of, that night, right, that type of stuff is like, that was my highlights. You missed that? Just being cracked. and just locking in. See, but then I'll cry for two days, but then I'll just like take a bunch again and just like repeat the cycle. Think about how cracked both of us were that night?
Starting point is 00:14:28 And then think about Blake and George doing it sober. I'm so, bro, I'm telling you, I'm so... They were just like... And this is why I say, stop while you're ahead. Because the Addy shit just, I swear, just like fries your fucking... Your dopamine receptors
Starting point is 00:14:45 and shit just doesn't hit the same. aim anymore. Like I'll see Blake streaming console Valoran at 2 p.m. Just locked in, focus. He's loving it. Scump went in war zone solo, 100K solo, Tony Soap. Like, dude, just everyone. Everyone's just so locked, but me. Neid, too. You know what I also realized. Did they do a 24 hour out of nowhere?
Starting point is 00:15:14 I think so I think George told me that Nate went live and was playing well and getting a lot of subs on on Valerite so he just did it for 24 hours really yeah they just his chat bullied him into doing a 24 hour he didn't like announce it he just did it oh I thought he just did one I thought it was something for like the fucking buzzcutter or something and I saw didn't he had like 20 something thousand subs whenever you're ready man 23 hours yeah a couple days ago God, damn. Dude, his setup is so sick. I wonder what... Dude, I texted him, asking him to be on around the bar, and I am just not realizing. He was,
Starting point is 00:15:56 it was during his 24 hour. What? You can get a text back yet? No. I don't really expect text back from... Well, there are certain people. Oh, no. Hex will instantly reply.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Hex is good about it. Seth? Like, even asking Seth to, like, do this merch, I was like, I'm going to send him this text and I ain't going to get nothing back. And then I'm going to like see him at content. And he's just going to go, what's up, man? I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:16:23 Oh, the. Remember that text about like, the merch club? You get that? Yeah, my bad, man. I was. No, Seth always gets back to me. He just gets back to me like later, like two days later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And then he'll text me like, my bad, man. I was locked yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, it's all good. It's all good, man. We got it's just like, it's all good, man. It's all good, man. I just got, literally, that's one of the instances where, like, I asked them.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And then it's like 5, 6 p.m. and I'll smoke. And then I'll just sit there. And it'll just give me an anxiety until I receive a response. And then I'll just go. Why did I ask him? And then I just, why did I? Dude, I should have fucking worded it. Like, I had a few years.
Starting point is 00:17:13 I think I talked about it on the fly guys probably a lot. but I had a few years where I was like so worried about Seth thinking I was trying to milk him that like I never asked him like work shit ever and then Zen comes in and just is like attached to the teat
Starting point is 00:17:28 and I was like oh we can just do that and so I feel like Zen can just do that I think maybe it's just Zen because Seth used to be like super protective like of of shit like that of like people coming in and like and maybe that's where like I was like
Starting point is 00:17:44 I'm not, I wasn't ever, like, scared. But, like, I would just be like, yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to, like, Seth to think I'm trying to fucking use him for anything. Yeah. But, but I get him, but now it's kind of like, remember when Jack's first started popping off? Like, Jack would go on to people's streams and being, like, Twitch.combe slash courage JD. Uh-huh. And, like, even if it was, like, ninja stream. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 But, like, with Seth, I'm like, I don't really want to. Yeah. And then, and so people, like, he kind of got away with it because that was his bit. Yeah. and I feel like that's how like that's how Zen is that Zen is just like his bit is like like like joking that he doesn't have viewers until
Starting point is 00:18:24 Seth goes offline and joking that he doesn't have viewers until Nate goes offline and then they all come to him yeah I actually went to the gym with Zenny the other day and we were kind of like talking about it how just like and we've talked about it on here how like people say there's enough to go around and there's you know there's plenty of like even hex will be like
Starting point is 00:18:47 dude just fucking go like don't worry about that motherfuckers who fuck with you they're gonna watch your shit I'm like that's that's not how you stream twice in 10 years that's not how it works with my my two streams that it wasn't
Starting point is 00:19:00 how it worked but even Zinny like he'll like I mean it's just what it is like he even has just like a whole strat he finds out when Cess going live unless they're like I mean he wasn't like
Starting point is 00:19:13 well he he was saying some of this. But it's like you see when Seth's live, if you're not playing with him, you just wait till later then you maybe get a raid or by the time, when he gets off, a lot of people will check out your stream. But it is kind of like I don't know
Starting point is 00:19:28 if it's just like our bubble of our the esport world we live in. But it just kind of seems like there's not enough to go around. Dude, I feel like event to event to event is like the way to stream. That's why I like, that's why I like,
Starting point is 00:19:44 That's why I like how Kai does his streams. I like how Ledwick does his streams. Like have a certain... Have something to do. Stream that thing. Dude, that's literally... And then like... That's literally my downfall of not having...
Starting point is 00:19:58 Like, you're... I feel like you're really good at coming up with an idea or we're going to do this or... Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I enjoy doing it. I don't do it as... I don't do it as much as I wish I could. It's just harder with three people.
Starting point is 00:20:11 We all have three different schedules and... And we all have families. We all have dogs. Like, we can't just like, all right, we're going to sub-a-thon. Or we're going to stream until we beat Eldon Ring. Or we're going to stream until something. You know what I mean? Like, do, we're going to do this one thing that's going to take 15 to 20 hours.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And then we get to take that. And then if we get enough subs or enough viewers, we can take a day off to relax and then come back the next day with this other thing that we have planned. Yeah, that's definitely the wave. even though like the phase sub-a-thon which was absolutely insane first off
Starting point is 00:20:51 I can't believe how much they crushed that like every single one of them someone told me Adapt had 700 subs before they started yeah he was he was like
Starting point is 00:21:04 maniacing and then and then this phase is back sub-a-thon house and it's just like holy I mean but like they're all the same house
Starting point is 00:21:16 they were I think Just for the sub-a- I don't know how it's working but Adap said like he's They're getting another house And Adap's not living in that house Because there's not room or some shit
Starting point is 00:21:28 It might be all of them Except Adap But I mean Well deserved to the phase guys It's truly just a It's truly just A new fucking like they I think
Starting point is 00:21:45 they just started a wave well I mean the sub-a-thon thing was a thing but this whole month shit Matt what was going yeah that was fuck I was I was hearing shit coming out of the speakers and it was fucking up my train of thought
Starting point is 00:22:00 but well-deserved it's crazy how big the internet is because they did an entire sub-a-thon and I didn't know about it until it was over but I also don't I just don't watch Twitch like that.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Wait. I didn't even know. You didn't know if FACE was doing a sub-a-thon this whole month? I had no idea. Every time. Until the Optic podcast. On Twitter, do you do the for you or following? Following.
Starting point is 00:22:28 See, I do for you and I think I need to stop. Because it's so toxic and negative. Do you see people die all the time? Yeah. Yeah. It's every day. I either see people die. This is all I see.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Someone's dying. A petto's getting beat up. or face clips and that's how every single time I'm telling you that was my entire Twitter for the month of
Starting point is 00:22:51 September September was people dying petto's getting beat the fuck up in face clips we went on a 1200 sub train the other day that was a good feeling
Starting point is 00:23:03 wasn't it yes it was what do you guys I know like 3,500 like that and why Why did you go on that sub train? Because
Starting point is 00:23:15 So Twitch did this thing during the last week of September Where if you gift five Twitch will gift somewhere Between 1 to 100 subs. So people were Gifting 5 What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, I didn't know about it until it happened. People were gifting 5 to see how many Twitch would gift. So like people would give 5 and then Twitch would gift 1. People would give 5. Like it's just like a bot, just like randomly. Yeah, they would do it automatically.
Starting point is 00:23:47 So then people, and then people realize, like, if you give 25, they'll give five. And so, like, people were like, oh, how many, like, they, like, the chat started being like, I wonder how many Twitch subs I could get based on my sub. And then somebody dropped 100 subs. And then there was 28 on top of that. Then one time somebody dropped 10 subs and got 28 subs on top. I was wondering what? was going on with that because I was seeing it was insane it was fucking insane I was seeing people
Starting point is 00:24:16 taking like screenshots of like new sub count and like shot out Twitch and they're taking pictures and like Twitch is gifted in their chat yeah I'm like what the fuck no it's just automatic like it's just like a few people they've that's actually it was I mean it was it was it's one of the most unique things I've seen Twitch do in a while but it's it it it was fucking crazy yeah shout out the fucking Twitch for doing that that's actually a dope ass idea yeah I'm gonna But we had just finished Eldon Ring literally the day before. We were about to, we were about to play Val that day. Just like, because we were, we finished Eldon Ring on Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:24:53 uh, Val on Thursday, and then we start console vowel the next Monday. And so we're just chilling in just chatting because we try to yap for like an hour. And we're just chilling. And then George randomly goes, I mean, because people kept saying, you should play the DLC, the Eldon Ring DLC. And we were all kind of like, you know, know like it was a fun experience but we should probably play something that people want to see and like not that people don't want to see people like loved elden ring but i don't know if we're
Starting point is 00:25:22 ever going to grow did that do good for your stream the chat it's the most chat interaction we've had in a while but i don't i don't keep the viewer count on but apparently the viewer count wasn't as i mean it's just like anyone i mean it's like uh not like a cult following but it's like the people who like out and ring are going to be in there and they're more opt to talk because it's I mean they're always chat will be more popping they're always trying to help you and like
Starting point is 00:25:47 be like well oh damn like you this is the run like because you will be at a boss for two hours and we've died a hundred times and people are like you're close like you know like people like it's really it's a good it's really good game for chat interaction
Starting point is 00:26:02 but we were like you know maybe we should try Val see how that does instead and then George randomly says if I mean yeah we'll play the deal see if we go on like a thousand sub train. No, this is when a sub train hadn't started. And somebody gifted five and then Twitch popped up and I was like, what is that?
Starting point is 00:26:20 Damn. And then boom. And now you have to do the DLC. So now, yeah, we're two days into the DLC right now. Which has been so fun. We got a sub-a-thon plan. Can't really talk about it, huh? It's not really a sub-a-thon.
Starting point is 00:26:35 It kind of is. Kind of a sub-athon. Well, pretty much. Yeah. Cameras on it all time. we can't talk about it i'm hype i'm hype right when's that going to be announced it's not announced right not announced okay i saw your segment dude it's fucking hilarious my what your segment of the announcement is fucking they added it dude it's hilarious i was i was because just imagine me doing that what i was
Starting point is 00:27:03 and i was like i don't really know how they're going to put this together but i hope it turns out good Dude, it's fucking hilarious. Yeah, no, that's going to be, that's going to be fun. I'm, like, scared of what I can talk about. I mean, I guess I can say this, but being away for that long, because we're doing a, this is a little sneak peek announcement. We're doing something. It's going to be nonstop, and it's going to be for at least, like, a few days.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Not going to say any more details than that, but that's going to be tough, like, just with the fucking dogs and. I might rover, I might rover Mace that week. Are, fuck. I might, I'm not sure. I keep wanting to, like, talk about it, but I can't really. Or you guys, Matt Craig. Or anyone listening, you guys will fucking love that shit.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Obie Mace hang out for a whole week. Oh, yeah. Obie Mace Sampson week. I can drop my dogs off too. His yard's big and shit. That's five dogs. That'd be so sick. No, that's going to be.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I think Reagan would love that. to be fun though i've i've already been like making notes of like sub goals and shit since it's you have you no because i know it's like a team effort the kind of thing yeah or like we're all going to be doing this sort of together but i'm just going to have my own little separate goals like i'm trying to because i know all right so this weekend or when you're listening to this today it's going to be my first stream in like three four months which i'm not proud to say but i know once i start that i do kind of have a plan to do an elden ring stream dude i mean am i going to bail in it i don't fucking know but i but i am really trying to
Starting point is 00:28:57 because i how about this if you start streaming friday if you start streaming and if you beat elden ring before you hit stop streaming i'll give you a hundred hundred subs. I will give you 100 subs. So when I do decide to do it, if I actually complete, if I do it and complete it, if you don't, you owe me five subs. Okay. That's a bet.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Shake on that. That's a good deal. It's $25 bucks. It's free $25 bucks right there. How long could that take, though? Like, I don't know if I'm a, because didn't it some people just beat it in like a day? Like a sash? Or is that shit going to take multiple days?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Fuck, man, and I'm so unlocked these days. I'm not... I'm gonna be fake raging and stuff. You're not gonna be fake raging. You won't be fake. I promise you, you won't be fake raging. No, I have a feeling it's gonna be fun. But it's just so much...
Starting point is 00:29:57 I don't know. It's also just being away for that long. And it's gonna be... There's gonna be, like, after you play for... What the fuck? Elden Ring main story, 60 hours? Oh my God. So if you play nonstop and you're playing it pretty perfectly,
Starting point is 00:30:18 it's going to take you 60 hours. No, no, no, no. That's not perfectly. That's just the projected, the average. Yeah, it's probably like average. Okay. So I can kind of look at that and be like, that probably is what it's going to take me.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It did not take us 60 hours. But we also like, but that's like, that's probably just like casually playing until you beat the game. Like there's a, you can, like, if chat. Chad will tell you how to linear. Yeah, I want the full experience. Dude, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:30:45 It's insane. I'm still, I found, I found shit yesterday on the main map, not even the DLC, that I didn't even know existed. And I bet, I bet you I've probably only explored like 60% of the map. And we've beaten the game. It's like, it is fucking insane. The scale of that game is insane. But the DLC is hard as shit. I can't believe you got.
Starting point is 00:31:09 have like a modded three person version it's so sick you think that's easier or harder i i think some bosses are a lot you said that last some bosses are a lot easier some bosses are hard that the the the boss we're doing now and the dlc is fucking it's damn near impossible yeah it's just with this taylor world's first stream back in forever i know once i start this i'm gonna try to have a good stream this weekend and then from there just try to i don't want to get in to the, even if I end up taking like a one to three day break in between
Starting point is 00:31:46 I just want when I stream for it to like be something. I can't get caught in this wave of like, because you hear this like be consistent like consistency will help grow your stream and blah blah blah blah blah but it like
Starting point is 00:32:01 doesn't. Like you really you need something. No it doesn't. You need a plan. You need a fucking game plan. these days with streams. Because it's not like back in the day where I just turn it on and like there's not that many people streaming, especially from like the e-sports world. Like I was like, I felt like one of the few people streaming.
Starting point is 00:32:23 So it's just like, of course I have a lot of viewers. But now it's just like so saturated. You have to like do something, plan something, get the community involved damn near every time you stream. Because I just got into the cycle where and I can't go back to that because even though I felt productive and I was working and
Starting point is 00:32:44 I was proud of myself for really like it was probably like seven months of damn near everyday streaming but then it just turned into just playing just signing on
Starting point is 00:32:57 just knowing I'm signing on getting on Halo into searching Halo Infinite matchmaking and that is the cycle I cannot get into a game I'm really gonna have to like branch it out go from like an Eldon
Starting point is 00:33:11 ring sub-a-thon to a fucking new account whatever whatever is popping or had been popping before i'm just i'm copying people is what i'm gonna do how long would it take you to go from i do i do want to do jim iroft streams bronze to onix a few hours and halo yeah that'd be a i mean if i made a make a new account try to get from bronze i make a new account i just wonder if it takes the the data from like your other account I don't think it does and then we started
Starting point is 00:33:48 it would just be a day we started a new account yeah it wouldn't even be worth it I don't think yeah no and plus no one would give his shit hey those so down bad I don't know whatever
Starting point is 00:34:00 whatever's popping at the time I'm gonna just try to catch the wave of whatever the fuck's happening and and hope I just can pull something out of my ass, but I'm kind of, I'm, I'm excited. I'm excited for the return. It's been too long, man, and I feel, trust me, I know, I feel, I was not proud of this hiatus. It's happened before,
Starting point is 00:34:27 like, I've taken hiatuses before, but I kind of just like, disappear, drink and fucking say I'm, like, enjoying the summer when I'm really not. I'm just completely depressed. But, But this time I was just, I just didn't know how to hop back into streaming. And I think this weekend would be like a good fucking, a good start. I wanted to do some kind of, I wish I could do like an IRL. I want to do IRL live streaming at the fucking gym or something. But I just don't know if like. I saw that shots he did one yesterday.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yeah, with fucking tour. A tour. Yeah, he went over to. to repulse's house, right? Everyone's just doing it now. The IRS streams. But even then, I don't think it, like, it's not like it popped off or anything.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I'm just wondering if I can take a tripod to the gym. We were actually talking about it, I think, with Roger was explaining it a little bit. And I think I was with Zinni. And he was talking about wanting to do some IRS stuff. But the problem is, like, the service always, or the connection always cuts out. so you got to figure out something with that when the gym
Starting point is 00:35:48 I'd go a lot of gyms don't allow recording but I would I want to get into some kind of IRL shit I don't know I'll figure it out you want to give me ideas
Starting point is 00:36:00 it's hard it's hard to make IRL like super entertaining I feel like my I would get on Halo and I would have more viewers like going to the gym and like driving around
Starting point is 00:36:12 in my car and playing music Yeah. I mean, no, in certain scenarios, yeah, it makes sense. But like some people that try, I remember like when Nick Merck's tried to do his gym streams during the day and then. Really? Yeah, it was a while ago.
Starting point is 00:36:29 He did gym streams during the day and then wars on at night. And he like built a whole gym. And he probably, I mean, he might have been doing, he might have been a fucking tax write-off situation. Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to build this gym. I'm learning that as I get older. stream it. But regardless, he would do, he would do a gym stream during the morning and then war zone at night. I mean, and I was like, damn, like, this is, that's mad innovative. And then I would check out his gym streams. And there'd be like, like one fifth of the amount of people in
Starting point is 00:37:03 those streams is the war zone streams. And I'm like, yeah, obviously, people don't want to, I mean, it's cool to watch. But like, you're not going to sit there. Some people will sit there and watch him play multiple games of war zone. They're going to sit there and be like, oh, I wonder what he's benching today. You know what I mean? Well, it's also easier because a lot of people will watch just due to like being interactive with the streamer.
Starting point is 00:37:25 So when you're sitting there playing a game, you just look over to chat, boom, you read it real quick. But when you're like working out and you're tired in between sets or, and it was also when I was IRL streaming, it was a little inconvenient just to like look at your phone and then you put it down and you pick it back, and you're like refreshing the chat.
Starting point is 00:37:44 It was definitely a sort of a hassle. But that's sort of, even if my viewers are low, I kind of just want to get back into it of like doing shit that I want to do. Not falling into the same old, Halo Infinite, All of Duty pubs. The more I stream, the more I realize that's probably what's most important.
Starting point is 00:38:11 is like, as long as you're having fun, and if you, like, put the element of entertainment on top of it, like, like, like, I fell into, much like I think Zinny's falling into it. I think I fell into the, the idea of like, oh, if I don't stream it this time, if I don't do this certain thing, like, we're just not going to have, like, I'm just not going to have,
Starting point is 00:38:36 like, I'm not going to get the viewers that I want. I'm not going to get the subs that I want, so I'm just not going to have, fun. Yeah. And then as you're streaming, people can just tell. Yeah. But then like you say that's what Zinn he's falling into. Yeah. I think it is. Every time I talk to Zinn, he's stressed. Yeah. And and I mean, I'm, I've been stressed too, but like I just understand where he's coming from. But then you think when Zen did that, he was like, he was like, I just got to find something. And he did that baseball stream. It started, or those streams, it started popping off. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:09 man, nobody wanted to watch baseball. People. It was fun to watch him do it because he was bad at it and he was having fun. He was trying to get better and he was like, I think people can just tell. Like, viewers especially can just tell. They can definitely just tell. Even though waking up and being able to do whatever the fuck we're doing is a blessing. Yeah. Like stream wise.
Starting point is 00:39:29 For sure, a blessing. But it does come to a point where you've been doing it for so many years. And it's just like, I don't. A big part of streaming is like, And this is what Seth is super fucking good at Is every time you click on Seth Street He's the same skump He's always fucking happy
Starting point is 00:39:50 But I mean, it's also hard not to be happy When you're skunk That's true Everyone loves you It's nothing but positivity It's nothing but smiles Everyone wants to play with you But like Seth is such an outlier
Starting point is 00:40:01 So it is a little different You can't base your success Off of Seth's success Because he's such an outlier Like, it's not that he is not he's, it doesn't, it's not he doesn't, it's not that he doesn't, it's not that he's always trying and he's always, and people always know what you're going to get from him. He's going to be goofy, but it's also, he's also going to be disgusting at everything he plays. So people, I thought you meant like jokes. Oh. Cog jokes So like anytime he's playing Cod Of course he's gonna be
Starting point is 00:40:31 I mean he's probably one of the best pub players of all time So like people are gonna watch him play the beta You know what I mean? It totally makes sense But I guess my point of that Is saying like Your mood Is sort of a big factor
Starting point is 00:40:47 In the streams Like you want to I would say it's the most important factor Yeah Like if you've seen what's happened with Shroud lately Or Ninja or it's like like the people have been like
Starting point is 00:41:00 very critical of them and it's because like you can just tell in their mood that's like it's like almost like it's at least in just the little clips that I see I don't watch either one of those streams but but in the little clips that I see it just seems like they're like salty
Starting point is 00:41:13 at times and it's like damn every time I see a clip of this guy like he's people saying that about I know people said that about ninja people saying that about shroud yeah people say that shroud is like an elitist when it comes to games He's like old man
Starting point is 00:41:27 Old man yells at cloud Yeah It's not a keyboard It's not a mouse and keyboard game Yeah It seems like he's very critical Of games lately But I mean he's also
Starting point is 00:41:37 I mean But he's also one of the best aimers ever I don't know Yeah that's why I was thinking Like Sort of playing some stuff out From my stream Every now and again
Starting point is 00:41:47 If I'm like fuck I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow Maybe just start up the stream Set it up in my car Go for a drive Go to the gym And just like not fucking
Starting point is 00:41:57 I noticed this summer there was a while where I was I'm just sitting there fucking so bored at home and I'm like borderline to press I'm like I fucking haven't been doing shit and I felt bad about not streaming
Starting point is 00:42:13 but I was a big part of it I think was I was afraid I was afraid to like start streaming again and it fail or like have low numbers or just any kind of just shit like that it's it's almost like i was afraid to start my stream again because i was afraid of like the numbers or it failing or it not going well or whatever but i just
Starting point is 00:42:39 need to start the stream again do whatever i want or what my community wants and just fucking enjoy it don't worry about the numbers like do what i love to do or whatever at least that i want to do at that moment and just chill the fuck out because it's not that big of a deal anyways of course i'd want my stream to be as popular as possible and like there is some stuff where it's like i don't want to do that but it'd be really good for my stream and like those things are definitely needed but i need to start up the stream have fun interact with the community like i need to stop there's this like sick fucking and everyone has it but there's just like ego of like What if I start the stream and I only have this many viewers and like, you know, I haven't streamed in so long.
Starting point is 00:43:29 So it's like you expect, oh, maniac streaming and it like kind of pops off for a few days. And it's like, what if that doesn't happen? Then I just got to the point where I'm like, dude, shut the fuck up. You need to just start streaming. Have some fun with it. Chill the fuck out. Stop being afraid to fail. A lot of motherfuckers don't even start because they're too afraid to fail.
Starting point is 00:43:48 No, the fall off is. The fall off is humbling. Let's be real. The fall off is mad humble. It's very humbling. I remember, I remember turning on our stream every day.
Starting point is 00:43:57 We were averaging 1,500 viewers. I'm just like, oh, we're fucking, we're next up. We're the best. Yeah. Those are,
Starting point is 00:44:06 I mean, you guys are still, we're still doing our thing. It's, I mean, it's just, it's, it is ego,
Starting point is 00:44:13 it is, if I had a, if I didn't, if I had like any sort of ego, I just wouldn't go live. Like, I just would, I know I wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Because it doesn't even matter. because you're still at, TSD is still at like a good place now, at least in my opinion, with like viewers and whatever. But it is hard when you used to be at this. And this is like what people I guess are calling Ninja out for is because when you, I can't imagine. I'm not even joking. I would have to go to therapy. First off, Ninja still has like 10 to 15,000 subs, right?
Starting point is 00:44:49 Dude, he still gets like 8K viewers on each platform. Yeah, like he's still doing amazing. Ninja started multi-streaming. He started it. Yeah. Literally it was like, I'm not going to take a, I'm not going to take any deal. I'll just stream everywhere.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Yeah. It's fun. Dude. And he's still crushing. He's still doing, he's still doing amazing. But people are like calling are still. And there is, there just has to be truth to it. To where when you were at one point,
Starting point is 00:45:17 you're playing with Drake with 500,000 viewers or whatever the hell it was. Yeah, yeah. To go from that to being, I mean, he's still a top streamer. Like, if you're getting 10,000 viewers, 10, 15,000 subs, like, and you're multi-streaming across everything fucking. You're still at a great place. But it is hard to just go from, I guess, where you were at, and especially where he was at to, I don't even want to say fall off,
Starting point is 00:45:48 because he's still fucking on. No, it's not a fall off. It's not a fall of. You can't be. His peak was just so insane. It'll never be... His peak was so insane that it's just not with...
Starting point is 00:45:57 It will just never be replicated. Yeah. That peak will never be replicated. And... I mean, imagine... That's what I felt about myth, too. Because myth during the Fortnite era was the second...
Starting point is 00:46:10 I felt bad for myth a little bit. Yeah, me too. But even then, the motherfucker probably made millions. No, the fuck am I feeling about it for. Exactly. Like, why do we care? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:17 And he's... I mean, also, myth is like the fucking nicest guy. Like, I've talked to him a few times. He's super nice. He's playing some of my... tournaments. I've met him in real life. He's a great guy. But when somebody made a video, Matt,
Starting point is 00:46:30 I don't know if you can pull it up. Oh, I think I've seen this. Someone made a video was like the biggest fall off on Twitch. And of course, it has like 5 million views or something. And it's like, what the hell? And then he, and then Myth did a video of him reacting to it. It was like, oh my God, dude. Could
Starting point is 00:46:46 you imagine? Bro, I think I watched that and teared up. How humbling, how. Yeah, yeah. The streamer who went from a hundred 165,000 to 50 viewers. It got 4.8 million views and then myth reacted to it. It almost got a million views. Five million views in 10 months.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And the video is pretty, I watch some of it. It's not a, because when you see it, you're like, oh, this is like a hate. Like, oh, look at this guy who fell off. That's not how the video is at all. It's basically saying that like myth blew up. myth took a different path than what everyone else did where they tried to stay on the trend and he just played whatever he wanted to which which is like he played fortnight for a while and then he was like oh i'm gonna play rust or i'm gonna play these other games that he just enjoyed playing
Starting point is 00:47:40 and so obviously the masses aren't gonna go and watch it and he did it for so long and the 50 viewers thing was only one stream it was like an ad stream so nobody wanted to watch oh really they actually had a clip of like him with 50 viewers yeah they actually had a clip of like him with 50 viewers. Yeah, they had a screenshot of him with 50 viewers. So that was the title. But Ninja kind of did the same thing. When Ninja's mixer deal went through and he immediately started streaming again on Twitch
Starting point is 00:48:03 and he started streaming Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy 7? I was like, dude, bro, go to the Bahamas. Like, don't stream Final Fantasy 7 on Twitch. Yeah. I know that's your favorite game or whatever, but like, like, take some time. You just got the biggest... cash grab ever
Starting point is 00:48:24 but whatever literally yeah i think literally that was because they didn't even he got a gazillion dollars i don't know i don't know the details behind that but how long did he even stream on mixer it was some deal was it a year might have been less than a year but then mixer shut down and just still had to pay him anyway still had to pay him and shroud they have apparently there's got like 60 mil for streaming for a year imagine waking up one day and there's 60 million dollars i've been thinking about this lately and Matt before I forget
Starting point is 00:48:57 can you go back to the fall off video and click it and look at the comments I think I saw myth when I watch it is the top comment myth someone's replying to him I don't have words to express for myth commented on the video I don't have words to express how grateful I am for this
Starting point is 00:49:15 video left me in tears thank you for the video and it's a fucking video about his fallout about his falloff yeah it just shows it showed like so many amazing moments from his career No, myth is the fucking man He's taking like a big break
Starting point is 00:49:30 A big hiatus right now I hope he's doing one Which I think I think Is important He's gonna come back jacked and fucking shredded Somehow He's gonna disappear for three months Dude can you look up TSM Myth's
Starting point is 00:49:46 Introduction video For when he got announced on Fortnite Dude I think it's got Dude, the amount of views That early TSM Fortnite had Dayquan? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:01 Dekwon, Hamlins Myth. I think it was the three of them, right? I feel like there might have been one more. Dude, it is The amount? That's not it.
Starting point is 00:50:17 It was, oh, maybe they deleted it? Maybe introduction? TSM myth introduction There it is Meet TSM Myth 6.3 million views And it's just
Starting point is 00:50:37 It's just like I mean that It's just fucking crazy Shout out myth man So that's not him But like we're He's gonna come back He's gonna
Starting point is 00:50:45 I mean whenever he comes back He's probably gonna crush it Like we were saying about Like whenever we said How much Ninja got For his like two year deal or whatever I mean And this might just be me coping
Starting point is 00:50:57 But say you got like 60 million for just streaming on mixer for a year. I said, like, my reaction was like, God, like, what the fuck? And then I'll think about, like, how much other streamers are making on Twitch. But then I think to myself, but, like, what, what can they, what are they doing with that money that I'm not doing? Like, I still, like, it's like I sit there, like, and I'm like, envious and jealous. I was like, like, fuck, money, money, money.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I need, I want more money. But then I'm like, even if I had that money, that money what the fuck would even change i would still just the house would be bigger the car would be better and that's like really about it dick would be bigger maybe dick would probably get bigger but that's like surgery but that's like probably about it like i would still be living the same life it just be in a different house with a different car and i need to just appreciate what i have it's a mature way of thinking about it i'm i'm more because i'll hear not i'll see numbers see Twitch sub counts
Starting point is 00:52:02 and I'm like fuck like fuck man I'm fucking up like I'll think about everything I fucking everything I got fucking everything I did wrong and not I just be like wait like even if I absolutely crushed it like yes I would have been a more fun life
Starting point is 00:52:16 but even if I was absolutely crushing it like I'd still just not have a home my dogs my girl my car is good my house is good bills are paid I can get whatever food I want let me just Chill the fuck out and appreciate this.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Stop freaking out. Yeah. Makes sense to me. I'm trying to change my mindset here. We're healing our brain. Before you start streaming. Slowly but surely. Before you start streaming again.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Mindset time. Dude, what do you think? Speaking of, speaking of people that like have never, actually no, fuck it. Never. What? No, never.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Where are you going to go? I was about to go down a whole rabbit hole. And I was like, nah, I don't actually don't want to do that. Can you can you just maybe say a little bit? Why did you say it like that? I'm just, I hate when people say like, ah, never mind. I know.
Starting point is 00:53:11 You know what? This mother. You know, ah, there are, actually, never mind. Dude. Because it sits here and just, I wouldn't be able to focus the rest of the pod. You know what they said about you? Ah, actually, never mind. Wait, did you see the comments from the last pod?
Starting point is 00:53:25 No. Oh, never mind. All right. I actually do have a tattoo, and it's 30 minutes away. I'm already going to be a little late. But shit, I guess I can do it for the pod. Wait, are you a part of this legacy match? Can you announce this?
Starting point is 00:53:45 There's an Optic Legacy match, October 12th. Buy tickets now. Link in description. Optic Texas versus the Optic Dynasty, of course. There's going to be 1V1s for the fans, or 1V1s fans versus Optic members. That'll be dope. Go check that out. Link in the description.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Also, link in the description, I believe it's shop. dot optic gaming.com. Me and Skump have a merch collab for the HALA World Championships. This should be live on Friday. So if you're watching this and it's over, come check out the stream. And yeah, I guess that's going to do for today's episode. Matt, Craig.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Play that outro music.

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