The Flycast - Hitch Says Goodbye to Team Summertime | The Flycast Ep. 172

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

Get your tickets to Major I here: https://t.co/47QCyhclrqOpTic Gaming Merch: https://shop.opticgaming.com/Check out the OpTic SCUF collection and use code “OpTic” for a discount: https://scuf.co/OpTicCheck out the OpTic Podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/optic-podcast/id1542810047https://open.spotify.com/show/25iPKftrl0akOZKqS0wHQG00:00 - Intro01:30 - Our Last Episode Got RUINED04:51 - Where Are All the Egirls16:16 - Drawing the Line21:18 - Niac is Starting a Subscription??22:14 - Killdozer23:37 - Hitch is VLOGGing Again28:58 - 2026 is MaNiaC's Last Chance37:50 - Hitch's New YouTube Channel39:33 - The End of TST51:44 - Hitch Has Been Cooking53:59 - NiaC VLOG Coming Back?

I was like, what if I just moved around here and put my streaming setup in the office and just made it a, then I'm like, but what am I actually going to stream and then be closer here, lock in, get meathead. Meathead. This is my, it's either I do it next year or my life's over. I don't think those are the only options. I either get shredded and consistently upload more fitness and lifestyle stuff to Instagram or YouTube. or I'm done. And bad things will come. Fired from optic.

Fucking relapse. It's only going to be bad. If I don't clutch up in 2026, that's my last year. I'm on my last thread holding on. Welcome back to another episode of the podcast. Who cares? Who cares anymore?

Jha. Who cares? Everyone in this office just heard that. They're probably actually like, what the fuck? No, it was... Hitch is upset, and I know why. Why am I upset? Oh.

You are upset, right? I'm upset. Because our... We had a fly cast with an absolute legend. It was going to pop off and get us millions. Millions of views. That was the one that was going to do it. And it got completely chalked.

You might be wondering, who was it? It was a man, a legend. an up-and-comer I don't know if those go together a legend he's a legend everyone knows him he's the next big thing an up-and-comer in the call

of duty community that boy neum it was funny because while I was picking out my outfit today I was like oh I can't wear camo because I wore camo in the last podcast and I was like but that podcast got charmed you know it's crazy I was about to wear camo

today as well but I was like but I wore camo in the last podcast podcast so I'm not going to. But that pod got chalked so no one, no one would ever even know that I worked camera last Tim's. I think I have Tim's on in the like the last five pods I've been in. Are they comfortable? I saw T. Payne say they're not comfortable.

They are not comfortable. So what are you? But I mean like they're not terribly uncomfortable. It's just. You wear them for the bitches? Yeah. Just like how like I like there's the girl. The bitch.

All the big. All of it. All of it. That I watch this. They're like damn the Tim. I'm not going to lie. I've seen like two or three girls follow me on Twitter and I was like, ooh, you're like where, what bot?

Are they bots? No, they're not bots. They're like gamer girls. Ooh. Some of them aren't even, because usually I'll check on my, are they following everybody in Optic? But they weren't. Oh, just Seth.

Just Seth. Just Seth in Dashie. Oh shit. So you're going to. No, I didn't. followback. I don't think that, okay. I wanted to talk about the Niam thing, but then I'm going to go down this bunny rabbit.

Okay, Bunny Rabbit. We were This rabbit hole is whatever. I'm going to go down, I'm going to go down this bunny rabbit. I just want to say real quick, we did have Niam on. We did. The episodes, it went well. It was really good. Good episode. You'll never see it. You'll never see it. But it was really good. You're audio issue. You guys have to trust us. It was a great episode. We talked for an hour and a half and it was wonderful. You'll never see it. Um, so yeah, if you're wondering, maybe there's a little

delay again in Flycast. It's, it's because of that. TLDR, Niam started trick shotting. He was a sniper. He really liked Pomages videos. Then he started playing and would it be dumb if we just brought him back? He'd like it wouldn't be genuine then. He teamed with Merculies. He teamed with Neptune. He teamed of a bunch of people and now he's on the huntsman and he's enjoying it he played football and in high school did he say he didn't talk not college just but he said he said he was a big sports guy played sports grown up was pretty athletic yeah it was fun it was a really good episode he's a really good guy uh you'll never see it yeah and he was he was pretty comfortable on camera too yeah it was his first podcast ever his first podcast ever got chalked yeah that's crazy he's oh for one

welcome to hop thing um okay and then what we're What were we talking about? Was it the Twitter girls? The bunny rabbits? Yeah, but before that, was it the Twitter? Yeah, you were talking about how you're dipping your toes back into the e-girl space. No. Some decently attractive girls follow me on Twitter.

Okay. But I was like, I just, I don't know, man. It's not what it. And do what? I follow, what am I going to do? I remember it used to be a thing like, because I was on my computer all the time. So it's like, you know, I'm on Fortnite. get on Fortnite.

We have a little Fortnite date. They were like, you used to go to, we used to go to like all, not all the events, but a lot of the events. It's like they might be there, see them there,

like something like that, or cultivate some kind of, I just knew E-girls. And that has not been the case. I have not, I don't think talk to a E-girl or like, I think E-girls are, I think they're retired.

I'm also 28. So it's like, I'm getting past that. age to where like I should be talking to them. And it's not like, or I don't think they're like super young. But my point is this. I think I, I, I'm just too, I'm just not in that space to where I would even consider doing that anymore.

You're retired from E girls. I don't, I don't, I don't think I could do a E girl. I don't think I could do a, a gaming. say do, what do you mean? I don't think I could have a... What's the word I'm looking for? Non...

I could bang at you, girl. Could I date? Could I be in a long distance relationship or even... I just, I don't know if I could do... If I could be in a relationship with a gamer girl. Or even like entertain that anymore. but I haven't thought of that

I guess my point I haven't thought of that type of shit in like six, seven years. Yeah. So what I randomly saw on Twitter, I was like, a couple little cuties followed me.

And I was like, I kind of want to like, do I follow back and maybe like, I don't know, say something, but I was like, I can't do that, and then what?

I think I've just, I think it's that part of me is in the past and it was almost like I had I was like damn I don't I don't do that no more because for a while it's all I had I didn't talk to girls in real life it was literally straight E-girls

you talked to that you talked to a couple girls in the scuff house but I feel like where did they come from who was who was who was bringing them in the only girls I can remember like girls that were kind of like internety maybe not pure gamer girls

what about the one girl thumb you know what I'm talking about yes you're talking about her who she was she was friends with someone else's girlfriend oh really yeah

okay and yeah no so okay so okay So there were some real life people I mean there was like one but that wasn't Yeah You were never like a long time The only girls I talked to would just be like gaming girls

I did not talk to them You were not like a tender guy Not until 2018 or 2019 I think Like when we moved here Yeah Then I got a then I got a real life girlfriend But for a long time

It was just internet girls So when I saw some follow me, I was like, I'm single, like, I don't know what to do. Do I dabble in it? Like, and then I'm just like, what could I even do with like, I don't think I could do long distance. I don't know how you do it as good as you do. But like long distance. A lot easier for me because we see each other very often. Yeah.

It's not even like. You both have a decent amount of freedom. Yeah. To travel and stuff. But I just don't think. could do it and it was like uh damn this part of my life's just completely done i don't think i could ever do uh go down a an e-girl rabbit you can ever you can ever and i don't like it doesn't exist it has to still exist right i don't think because i'd be seeing fat i'd be seeing fatty reply to some

girl yeah but but e-girls don't exist in the in the way that they used to i feel like e-girl is very monetized now like like i feel like it's very rare to see like a girl do it for the love of the game. Like she's usually doing it for... What does that mean? Like, you gotta think of the e-girls of the past, like the, the Halo E-girls and then...

Like, they loved the game? They loved the game, and they loved, like, being... They loved to be around the best. Right. And, like, if they had... They loved to be around the best. If they had to throw down

in order to get around the best, that's what they were going to do. Yeah. They were like, they were like, I'm gonna get drunk on Thursday. I'm gonna be cranking it out by Friday. Right.

And now it's like, what is the best way to promote my subscription model and put my boobs on the, and it's like, see, that's not for the love of the game. You're doing it for money now. Right. Like, it's all algorithm. Because it used to not, it wasn't ever about subs or. No, it was never about subs. It was just like your subs and money for girls, for E girls back then was just who's the

highest status of male in the esports community? that I could be seen with. Yeah, it's not even like I want to be his girlfriend. It's like, I want to be seen. I want people to notice. Sunday night at the bar. I want people to notice that he's gone and I'm also gone. And I want people to know put two and two together.

Yeah. And that used to be a thing. That was it. They were like, they were, they were predator. They were prowling. Okay, that's not predators is my. They were, they weren't predators, but they were looking for prey. They were cats in the grass

And and and poor little nade shot was a fawn Was a deer waiting to be eaten And they were all around and Hector's protecting Yeah, Hector's protecting all of the deer From all of the cats Because they were everywhere But every once in a while Nade shot was just a little

A little farm goat A little farm goat Hex was the big dog out there Protecting In the middle of the night protecting the sheep Yeah that little optic

men there's tigers and panthers and jaguars and coyotes some were some were coyotes those are usually the ones that talk to me some pigs

that what's the mean pigs what's the mean pigs what are they called boars summer boars wild boars that's fucked

and they were just they were gathered around just looking. See, and then now... Some people got caught a lot. Some people are still getting caught to this day. But I just don't think that exists anymore. It's not for the loving...

What do you mean caught? Like a girl getting caught trying to use... No, like what? Like, I have no plenty of gamers back in the day that were like, I have no other options. I must try every... I must try e-girls.

There's not like... And it's like, you don't have to. Oh. maybe yeah i guess i wasn't i didn't talk to girls in real life so yeah i guess that seems kind of yeah it's just oh it's just over so now what is it though now it's now it's what can i do to promote my patreon my only now it's like they kind of how do how do i get all the money they kind of give a little attention here little attention to there they'll talk to this they'll talk to this pro and the dms they'll be seen with like this guy and

Then they'll take their cute selfies and they're like, oh, this pro's talking to this girl. She's cute in this picture. She just tweeted her stream. I feel like that's more so the... It for sure is. It for sure is.

Games change. Like when Dashie does this 20V1, like how many of them were already... All of them are there... I mean, there probably is like... I mean, there might be a girl that's like down for that. Dashy. Why not funny guy? Yeah, for sure. Decently attractive.

Makes good money. And I'm not saying you're going on there to find, to fall in love with Dashie. Obviously, it's entertainment. But how many of them were already pre-set up on the only fans, on the Patreon, on the on the fan hub or whatever? How many of them are already, how many of them are already set up? And they're just like, all right, let me put my. Yeah. And it's like you used to show, you used to show your cleavage and used to where, you know, you're revealing stuff in order to get the attention of the pro.

Not of. Right. Not of the customers. Yeah. Right. You know what I mean? And that's where the E-girl art died, I think. That is what it's turned to.

I think we need to have Kieran on and like ask her like, when did it die? The queen of like, like, yeah. The E's. The queen of, or like the capo sisters. Queen. I don't think so Like they're the queen of the Of the scenes

Nah Kieran would be good She's actually funny And she'd talk about it And she would like Probably be pretty real with it Yeah she probably And she's been around for a long time What's your crazy story

She'd be like Can't tell any of those It'd be something about someone we know I know That's what I was thinking Yeah The art is just dead The art is dead

But I'm saying I think there's I think there's like there's like only fans models now and like gamer girls I think there's just different now no no there's no middle ground there's no e-girl

if I was talking say I start talking to a girl and I find out she had a only fans in the past but she doesn't anymore now she works a job do I hold it against her no I don't think so what if she made a lot of money from a You gotta think like that's the equivalent.

She was busting it wide. That's the equivalent. Now, here's the question. If in 2018, before Onlyfans. I would have to just see how, like, sexy the pictures were. If it was, like, booty naked back arched, ass in the air, or, like, you can actually see everything. I don't know if I could do that.

But if it was just, like, some side little, like... Some feet stuff. I'm in my panty, but here's a side little mirror pick. Hand over the boob. Hand over the boobs like this. Then maybe. But even then, it just... Here's a question.

In 2018, prior to all this, like, you know, like subscription model stuff, if you had dated a girl and she was like, yeah, I danced for like two years. I was a stripper for two years. But I, you know, I don't do that anymore. Would you have held that against her? Depends how bad she is.

Like, if she's very attractive, I'd So it's worse the bad? Maybe it would It's worse the more attractive she is? Maybe it would no it's the more attractive she is the better it would be or the more the more easy I can be forgiving Okay But also I think it depends where she was doing it.

If I met her here in Dallas and she was doing it in Dallas at like the most at a damn A fucking strip club. Spearmint Rhino. Excessy or I don't know. I don't know. Spearmint Ryan is the only one I know. Is that around here? I don't.

I googled it one time for a joke. That sounds like I'm joking, but I'm not. But yeah, if she, I don't know. If she says like, yeah, she used to be one in fucking Kentucky and then moved here, I'd be like, all right, whatever. Well, no one has to know. She was throwing that ye-hall. But if we go out and she just knows the bouncers and she's just known in the city and

motherfuckers know who she is, I don't know. I don't know if I could do that. Yeah. But dancing, I don't know. What's worse? I don't know what's worse. You got to have some balls to be a stripper these days when only fans exist. I mean, they're probably doing both.

I mean, you're right. I feel like dancing is kind of like the late night hoot, like the late night TV show of like, I think it's just kind of in the past, but it's still being, like people are still hanging on. Yeah. But like dancing, you're actually like on top of a guy bouncing your. fucking ass. That is true. So I don't never go away. A lot of times you're fucking butt ass naked. Like people think these... Butt naked? Strip gloves?

Biches are females or butt naked in there? Butt naked? Mm-hmm. You didn't know that? No. Actually, wait, I think I did know that. Because I think... I mean, there will be girls walking around with just like a little bottom, a little top.

A lot of time their tits are out, but like a lot of times, they might just be butt naked. I think if you're butt I think if there's I think if you're if it's a butt naked club you can't have alcohol there. Really? I think that's I think that's the rule. I think where we go, they just do whatever they want. And you got to sneak in the alcohol.

But like they just let you do it. Oh, so it's like bring your own beer. It's like bring your own. What the fuck kind of ghetto ass? No, it is. Somebody's garage. It's bring your own, but you can. but I don't think you're allowed.

You kind of just got it. You got to keep it on the on the low. How often are you going to strip clubs? I've went maybe twice. I've been to two in the past 10 years. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Twice being in the last couple months. Okay.

Okay. That's a very skewed way of saying that. I've been to two in the past 10 years. Those two were the last couple weeks. But I was just a few people I was hanging with one of them was actually in one of the places I went to was actually in one of my vlogs or my little Instagram Reels. Yeah. I was like, yeah, we're at a jazz club. And in the background, you can just see a girl.

A jazz club. Yeah, it's like we're in a jazz club with Money Mark. He's smoking a cigar. He's just smoking like a backwood or something. That's pretty good. But yeah, it's. And they're just. They be butt naked.

They're walking around with fine out. Sometimes. Sometimes. They don't give a fuck. But I was thinking, what's worse? I mean, here's the issue with only fans. When you say only fans, I do look at it like a, at the end of the day, you are selling sex, even though it's not literal sex, but like you're selling your sex appeal.

Oh, I'll get where I'm supposed to say sometimes. Um, but also when you're, the thing with only fans, is there will be a girl in there that might just take like booty short picks and just like shit other girls will literally post on their story

but like she's doing it on their only fans for money and then she's being boxed in with the same people who are butt-ass naked because I've seen some it's a sticky slope like it's sticky like if you're if you're one of those girls

that's putting your like you're making you doing little booty shorts pictures and then a guy comes in and is like say hey I'll give you 500 bucks to show whatever you're like 500 bucks and then I mean then it just

I need to get shredded and start only fans I think but I mean if you yeah I think that's not a bad idea but you have to be okay with the majority of your fan base screenshots and reddits no the majority of the fan base or your subscriber base is going to be men

and then you have to be okay with that you still I mean as if I don't know I don't know. You'll know though, because they'll... What if I just post and tell... I'll run it for you for 25%? You run it for 25%. Riley will run it for 10%.

Okay. Riley's just talking to messaging dudes are that. Just be like, don't tell anybody. Wet emojis, eggplants. See, I don't know how people do that. Guys will manage only fans, girls accounts. For women. Yeah.

And like there's, like, I had a... I have a friend who does, who did do that. Kildozer said the same thing. He was like, people want me to start an only fans. And I'm like, but. Your guy community? I'm like, not girls though. And he was like, not girls.

Not girls. He was like, it's actually kind of crazy. He was like, all the girls that support my channel all love my wife. They think she's the best part of the vlogs. All the guys want me to start an only fans. He was like, it's like, it's kind of. He was like, it's like, it's kind of. like it's kind of backwards and I was like yeah it is kind of backwards I mean I could see that for him

he's an attractive guy he literally looks like the the gigacad meme bro I swear I saw that motherfucker blow up like I was watching him so long ago yeah just he was getting I mean it might have been like just some of his first videos like only eight red 40 die for a week or something like that yeah I was watching then like six months later I see you you doing a kind of like I kind of stopped watching for a little. It just wasn't popping up. And then like six, seven months later, you, uh, you did an around the bar with him. I was just like, what the fuck?

Yeah, he blew up. Is he still blowing up? Yeah, I mean, his videos are still getting like 700,000 views, 700, a million views. It's fucking insane. Just doing these crazy challenges. He also streams a lot, too. Yeah. What am I going to fucking do?

That's a question. You're back to vlogging. You found your passion again. I was turning the camera on and saying Wait, hold on What is your fucking intro? Why can't I think of your intro? Don't say it

Don't say it I have to get this out of respect Something so People are screaming at you right now Dude, the thing is The comments are screaming I've had it in my head Because when you said you were vlogging again

The intro like came to my head And I was going to ask you, like, was it weird saying that again? But for some reason, I'm just... It's just when the cameras, the lights, I just start choking. Just like main stage. Fucking... Fuck. I don't even...

I don't want to continue this shit until I fucking remember. And back in a... Hitch again. Hey, guys, it's Hitch again. Guys, I'm back. Hey, guys, Hitch here. I'm back. What's up, YouTube?

Hitch. First shot of the day. First shot of the day. See, I just needed like a visual. First shot of the day. Jesus. What is this? God. We used to be friends and hang and do stuff and live. We need a team house again. She just got me fired up. No, I have an intro. I have switched it up. No, I have switched it up. No, I'm still going to do first shot of the day, but I have an intro planned. Like my favorite, can you clean click on my channel? This is so stupid, but I actually love it.

Videos. And then scroll down, scroll down. Okay, scroll up a little bit, up, up, up. And then I was not expecting you here next to the Blake and George trivia. This is like my favorite. This is kind of the vibe that I want to go for. for? This was the last time I came back to

vlog. First. First shot. First shot. First shot. First shot. First shot of the first shot. First shot of the day.

First shot. Ooh. Obviously. You man, you love this shit. I do love it. I do love it. I have to say I've missed. I haven't.

But like if you, can we just? like let's skip through this vlog like what what does he do you know we don't got to play it but it's like yeah this is i mean boom he's in the office this one the the boys the optic chicago team was playing at esa and then the back backstage is like the first time that the post-covid that the team oh was this all 2020 yeah so 2021 hocefo scaring oh did that really scary you? I got sick and Hosefo was like, I don't live far, man.

Let me know if you need some. I was like, I literally replied. I was like, I don't deserve you, man. No one does. I was talking to Hespha this morning. Dude, my room looks. Let's give it another shot. I'm going to try to do a weekout.

Okay. Was that one blog? Yeah, it was just one. That was the last, those three years ago. Three years ago. Me with my Instagram videos, I said, I'm going to try to do like one to three a week. and I think I did it for about two or three weeks my room looks so much different now than that

it's crazy is this the upstairs room yeah do you even use the upstairs room anymore yeah like every day every day yeah doing what like this shit like working shit is that where your setup is yeah oh yeah that's where that's where my setup is doing like uh dude your apartment's so Nice. Thanks, ma'am.

Appreciate you. Well, like, the blueprint, the floor plan. Oh. Not what you've done to it. What? I want to live there. Yeah, I'm sure you do. No.

You're gonna fucking perma live there. No. Until you get a house. Ideally, get a house. Yeah. Ideally, get a house, have a kid. God, your house is going to be so nice. Seven dogs.

That's going to be nice. I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do. Lease ends in. I mean, it's not for like six months, but I've been in a, did I talk about this on an episode? Are you about to talk about me head?

Sort of. But just like where I'm gonna, where am I gonna move? Do I just stay downtown for a scale? Right now I'm just paying too much. I wanted like the high rise city fucking view. I wanted that experience.

And I really like my apartment. Dark Park right beside it. It's perfect for Chewy. It gets me outside. I love the people that live there The concierge is super nice I don't know about my leasing people They're just like I feel like they're just not very friendly

Hopefully they don't watch this You're not going to Yeah you have nothing to worry about Some baddies live in my hallway Oh actually just one She's never looked at me once Oh But yeah besides that

Um Kind of just debating Do I move down to Frisco? maybe I was like, what if I just moved around here and put my streaming set up in the office and just made it a,

then I'm like, but what am I actually going to stream and then be closer here, lock in, get meathead. Meathead. This is my, it's either I do it next year

or my life's over. I don't think those are the only options. I either get shredded and consistently upload more fitness and lifestyle stuff to Instagram or YouTube or I'm done and bad things will come

fired from optic fucking relapse it's only going to be bad if I don't clutch up in 2026 that's my last year I'm on my last thread holding on it does surprise me though how much like support I'll get at times

like my marathons and like race the prestige yeah And then even like I did a CC's pizza ad put it on Instagram. It kind of, it didn't like blow up. But I was hoping I was like, if this gets a thousand likes, I will be happy. Because obviously when you do an ad for someone like, right, right. It's way different. Say you get 4,000 likes on an Instagram's real or whatever, like just for some shit you want to do.

And you do an ad, you know, you'll be, you'll hope for like a thousand likes or like. Yeah. You usually get 100K views. you'll hope for like, let's get 50K on an ad. Right. But it actually is doing well. It's just doing as well as any other video. So I don't know, man.

I can't tell if sometimes I underestimate myself. I know I truly slack in Mlazy and a lot of, with a lot of opportunities in front of me. And I fuck up continuously and don't keep promises to myself. But I feel like there's still. is a sliver of hope that if I do this shit right man shit could go well in 2026 I believe is the last year for that that's the last hope I've had 20 these last few like fresh out of rehab boom if I did it then you're on mile 25 if I would have clutched up fresh out of rehab probably a millionaire by now

yeah um we would probably be yeah we'd be a millionaire because like you'd run the company and shit Yeah. I would work for you. Yeah. Yeah. That's what would happen. And I'd pay you well, man. I'd pay you well.

Yeah. They'd be a good dynamic. I'd send you your call sheets. I'd call it. Yeah. I would be producing or I would be on camera. You would send everyone else there calls shoes. Oh, okay.

Okay. Like Meathead. Right. And James. And Seth. And Seth. Like, hey. Seth show up.

I know you have, Seth. I know you have optics stuff on Tuesday, but like, maniac shoot is more important. So like, we need you in the gym wearing his BTH lifestyle. Yeah, yeah. You get where I'm going with this. Then next few years,

I'm an alcoholic and time just flies. Let me talk about that another day though. And then 2025 happens. I think I'm gonna clutch. Yeah, fuck off again a little bit. I feel like I did have a decent, a decently productive year. At least with like the watch party,

I feel like I did really good with content all the pods all the fucking podcast the drop pod some of my streams had some good streaming moments drop pod fly gas optic pod fucking whatever some merch drops

I feel like I did decent I feel like I did decent I've known you for a long time at this point and you've had some shit years last year was not one of them don't like this year yeah like this year this current year Yeah, his current year is not a shit year. I feel like I'm ending it pretty shit.

But, you know, that just only, now it's only up from here. Going into 2026, I started writing down. I really, people always ask about streaming and it's just like, I just don't have the answer. I just don't think getting on and playing pubs. And I peeped some of the comments after I was talking about this, I think of the last one before Niam. But some of the comments were just like, it was of course just the like, oh my God, yeah, Maniac, you got it so hard. You have to go play video games.

But besides all that, I just don't like I have some ideas and I'm going to start writing down shit for like right when 2026 hits. Fucking just random shit like putting out more just lifestyle Instagram reels. Anything I do with Optic and I try to do stuff with different people writing these ideas. is down, then I'll just do basic stuff. Like, it's a new year. I know a lot of you guys are probably getting into fitness. Here's a good chest day. Here's a good arm day.

Here's a good leg day. And these will all be separate videos. What was something else that I have? But like, with streaming, I just, I don't, I don't have that in my head to like, okay, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to start playing for it. I'm going to play with these people one day. I'm going to start reaching out to people.

Like, I don't have that for streaming. So it's just, I'm trying to, just trying to, just trying to. of write down ideas, you know, how to make the perfect eggs. What kind of breakfast do I usually eat and just make a reel about what do I eat after my after workouts or what kind of what alcohol do I drink if I'm getting hammered? I mean, that really wasn't an idea. What does a typical grocery hall for me look like? See, and I would like to do all of these, but these would be so much more effective if I actually, I do do this stuff. but I off put it by eating such shit, like that it just makes me look, I don't want to say makes me

look average, but in like the bodybuilding world or like the fitness community, I do look average. So it's just like doing that, making these kind of videos while looking the way I do, I do feel like insecure about it. But I'm like, bro, I just have, I have, you got to, I have to start. I have to fucking start if they do, if they do well, even if they don't do well. I just, I have to start doing this shit and I have to start putting stuff out there and it'll just help me get some momentum for new ideas and I just feel like 2026 is the year it has to be fucking done it's my last fucking thread people are going to start not caring truly not believing and you know I feel like the time is the time has been now but the time is it fucking it has to be now yeah you're like

you think you're on mile 25 is what you're saying yes I'm on mile 20 I'm on this marathon to make my, this career, if my career was a marathon, I'm on mile 25 and I haven't figured it out yet. Oh, you're still like, you're still like, what's my,

what's my pace? I got another mile left to figure this shit out or the, or the race is over. Okay. That's a good way of putting it. That's how I, that's how I'm kind of fucking looking at it. Yeah,

I mean, I'm kind of in the same, I mean, not really in the same, boat. It's like, I kind of got everything figured out. I don't have everything figured. I don't have everything figured out. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like on mile three and five different avenues, which is scary. That's like scary. You're doing a Iron Man. Yeah, but I, but I, but I'm doing all, all, all, all, all three of them at the same time. I'm, I'm doing it, I'm doing an Iron Man. I'm on

mile two swimming. I'm on mile 10, but every mile you have to switch a, yeah, I have to switch it up. That's a good, it's a good, pretty good metaphor. A really good, really good month and doing a lot of momentum right now with icons. Starting vlogging again slash doing like a side, like another YouTube channel. It's like terrifying. It's like fucking terrifying. Another YouTube channel. Yeah, because like I have like hitcher ride, which I'm still trying to do like big videos on.

I have like some really good ideas that I'm like filming for for big videos. and then for like this vision rewatch that I'm doing and also vlogs and you know uh some other ideas like I'm gonna do it on my other channel which is like called optic hitch it was a channel I used to have called hitch presents um so I'm gonna that's where I'm gonna start uploading like pretty consistently um and then what are those videos gonna be like the vision rewatch series oh okay and then like sit down react kind of well like the vlogs are going to live there too okay and And so that's kind of, I mean, it's terrifying. Dude, I haven't uploaded, I haven't uploaded on YouTube and not been scared in years, like years.

It's scary. It's like, is this going to get, dude, when I- Ork, or is this going to get- When I uploaded the 40-year video, the, I played every video game, I played the highest selling video game for the last 40 years. It's like an hour-long video. I was fucking terrified. I was like, dude, if this, I just spent five months on this video, true, just,

edited it for two weeks like if this video crashes that's horrible but luckily it didn't so but i've have we have had some videos crashed so but i think i think i think if i locked that down you know i'm i'm i'm it'll be a very weird year i think starting out because obviously i'm not streaming uh not streaming as much anymore uh talk to blake and george the other day about it and uh it's been a long time coming. It wasn't a surprise to anybody. Like I said, like I said in the other flycasts, like you could probably go back three years, flycast or optic podcast from three years ago. And I was like, dude, I don't know how much longer I got in me. So I went like a lot longer than I thought I was going to go.

Yeah. As far as like that consistent daily stream, I just can't do it anymore. I can do, you know, like marathon streams or like creating, creating something for the stream. I'll still do that. Or I'll utilize my channel to film for a YouTube video. Because I was going to record it anyway. I'll probably still do that. But as far as that, like, what am he doing today?

He's getting on and he's playing this. He's getting on and he's doing that. Like, I can't do it anymore. We're playing Valerent. Getting on playing Cod. Right to. Playing Apex. Road to something that I'm never going to achieve.

in the first place, but I have to say something. But I have to make it seem like a goal of ours. Dude, I just can't it, it's like it brings me physical pain. Like, and it's not a bad thing to do it. I just can't do it. Was it just you?

Because Blake and George, they like sign. If it was up to them, they want to get on their computers and play these games. It might not even matter if they're streaming or not. They like playing the shit. Yeah, no, they love video games. They love. You were not on that wavelength at all.

No, I think it's a combination of, like, me falling out of love with, like, the competition aspect and also me, like... Not taking Adi. Well, maybe, actually, that might be a... If you took Addy and got on Apex, you might... You might be right. Yeah, you might be right. Oh, guys, let's do this. Yeah, let's rotate.

I'm gonna go... I'm gonna go fucking... Oh, wait, we can't shoot. What? Fuck, I'm wasting this bean. Wait, we can't shoot. Yeah, but I think I think it's like a combination of like

That my I fell out of love with like competition And as I fell out of love with competition Blake and George got more competitive Like they locked in They locked in on shit In ways I hadn't ever seen them lock in before Well I think because when TST started It was like y'all were doing it for entertainment

Yeah no And it was also being received very well and y'all had like some crazy runs yeah so it was like you know that who gives a fuck if you're kd is good right or if you're beating good immortal players or whatever the fuck like no one gives the fuck it's all about it's just like the community and the hype and the music and the sounds and the fucking the flare and that's what it was about and then i think that um just as it does with every stream it'll die down a little bit and then once you sit in that pocket for a while it's like I'm like, all right, well, we're not getting our dope from that.

Yeah. Let's fucking try to be good as fuck. That's where we like, I was like, let's play games in ways they've never been played before. And they were like, let's play fall guys fucking with an eye patch. Exactly. Like, that's kind of how I think. Let's play road to valorant 10 hours a day. Let's play like normal.

Let's play video games how people normally would play them. and we just kind of it's been that way honestly for three years like and so it's just it's just one of those things where it's like it's nobody's it's nobody's fall it's just very hard and when when blake and blake george and i talked about it it's not in like uh it was very much a you know like for a while for a while like tST has just been like let's hold on let's hold on let's you know oh we have bad months but we have a bad month let's create something called endless summer will be streamed for four hundred hours straight and like let's hold on to it let's the last year with the race like let's just hold on to what like okay we had really bad like no subs we have 1100 subs split between three people

let's have a really good race and then you know and then that saved it and everything everything has just been like it just feels like we're just saving and holding onto the coattails of what tST once was and so this last conversation you know it was more of like you know like at least we got to do it not a lot of people, not a lot of people get to play video games with their friends. Yeah. And make it a career. And maybe if they live down here, it would, could be something. Yeah, it'd be a lot.

I mean, it would be a lot easy. I mean, who knows, who knows? You just never, never, never, never, ever, ever, I think, I think with TST specifically, um, and like, kind of when optic was gone, like, uh, when we were like the huntsman and shit, uh, I think I, lived I I lived in what ifs for so long that it like ate me fucking alive like what if I did move to LA what if Blake and George did move down here um you know what what what if what if all this shit and it just drove me fucking insane and so I kind of stopped I I think I had a really big problem

with nostalgia for a while and then I had a really big problem of like well what if things change what if things went differently and now I just kind of like only think about the few future, which also is probably, you know, I have, I think I have the common denominator there is I have a very tough time of living in the present, which has always been a problem for me. Yeah. I think that just comes with being in this type of, uh, work space. Yeah, I guess. Or with what we do. It's just, you're just, you're hoping for a, an up.

You're scared of the downs. Yeah. So while you're sitting in the middle, it's like, that's all you're, you're either thinking of what you could have did better in the past or what you're going to need to do to save this shit in the future. Yeah. Don't really enjoy the moment as much. Definitely. You definitely. I have a very hard time with that.

So you said, I don't know how much detail or what you want to say about it, but you said Blake was going to tweet something out today. What is he like? I don't know. He texted me this morning. do what he said um he texted me text to me this morning and said uh going to get a post out today that lets people know that we're not trio streaming consistently anymore and let them know they'll still be seeing some youtube uploads and we'll be streaming on solos so so is this like tST's done or is this it's like is this like a breakup or is this like uh we're just we're just

not don't expect the tST streams it's just don't expect the tst streams it's just don't expect the TST streams. Okay. Like if fucking I don't know. I think I think I saw like a like if we're the three of us together

it's TST like yeah you know if we're like if y'all pull up to an event TST is doing yeah and people are still gonna know if we you know if we stream together it's TST is this TST stream but it's just the consistent like I think we're gonna you know treat it more how everyone else in the world does where you know we're gonna have like we have a team summertime channel but you know we're gonna have our individual Twitch channels yeah you know as well and they're

they're you know who knows and I I think a big thing with the three of us is I don't I think we have a really bad way of explaining what we want to do um each other yeah to each other and to ourselves I think like like going forward I think Blake still wants to stream and I think he likes streaming he love me a gamer yeah he likes getting go live and he likes playing video games yeah um i don't know if george necessarily likes doing that and like i'll ask him and he'll be like yeah i like it but like i don't know if he like loves it you know what i mean you can tell blake is like a nerd about it yeah blake loves that shit george just like whatever you all want to do i'm i'm there though right exactly um so i i think we and i told him this i was like you know

I think when we first started, the first thing that you hear when you go into business with friends is you guys aren't going to be friends very long. You don't go to business with friends. And so I think I was terrified of that because these two, these are my two best friends. Like if I lose my two best friends, it's like,

I don't know, I wouldn't ever be able to live with myself. Yeah, you've mentioned that the past like a couple months too of just like how scared you are to like sort of bring it up to them that like Oh yeah. Because you are the like face of it. Yeah. Um,

it is a trio, but like if it's like if hitches there, it doesn't, it's not TSD. If I'm not there. Like you, you were the face of it. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I definitely had like a full blown panic attack during the race. At one point, if there, if you guys were at there during the race, it's like fucking 1 a.m. And I'm just walking,

I'm just pacing in the background. I'm having a full blown panic attack. about, but, but that being said, like, like, we had been talking about it for, I mean, this is not a new thing. This is something that we've been talking about for. It was also another thought, like, if I leave, what are they going to do? That's the only reason I kept streaming for two years. For two years. That was, that was the only reason I kept streaming.

Right. And, you know, I, it just, it is, it is what it is. And I'm glad that it's, I'm glad, you know, seemingly in a healthy spot where it's like, I'm, I'm glad we got to do this. Because I, I've said it many times. No, I don't believe that anybody can or could do what TST did. Especially like, you can't go into business together, stream on one channel. We're talking three people from the same town. Yeah.

High school. High school. Yeah. Soccer team. And making this happen. Stream on, stream on one channel. upload on one channel, split all of the revenue between all of that and the merchandise and everything, like, and still remain friends. Like, these guys are still going to be standing

beside me on my wedding day. Like, that doesn't happen, man. Like, the Joe Budden podcast, like, fucking, you know, stuff like that. Like, it doesn't happen. And I'm very glad we were able to do it. And I'm glad we had, you know, a meteoric rise. And then we were able to, to live off of that for years. Like it's something to very, it's very much something to be proud of. 100%. So I'm very, I'm very proud that it happened. And I love those guys very dearly.

And whatever, you know, I pretty much put whatever they want TST to be in their hands. So whatever, whatever we do going forward, like, I'm, I'm, I'm there for. it and I'm excited but regardless if you see the three of us together that's TST and we'll still be going to events and shit and you know good man TST was a legendary

y'all had a legendary run at some at some points yeah definitely uh something to be proud of and you know every course takes its toll or something which had a good saying that's the saying every course put on the shirt

Every toll takes a course that's off. So with you now, you brought out the vlog camera today. Yeah. Is streaming just not on your radar? Are you going to be bored some nights and just turn it on randomly? Yeah, but I've done that forever. Sometimes I'll probably just be bored and turn it out. Like I've streamed once since the race and it was just me doing camos.

it was like 2 a.m. But but the vlog the vlog is not like an end-all be-all it's not like what I'm putting

all my eggs in the basket to just as you I feel like you can't if you sat around doing nothing you would just

I would lose my oh yeah lose my mind and how I kind of see it as like like I'm putting a lot I'm putting a lot of effort this year

into around the bar a lot of effort into icons like 2026 2026 yeah a lot of effort around the bar a lot of effort into icons and you know how Hector

I think how Hector runs Optic how Hector runs his businesses like the business the business is always do better when he's vlogging like the Optic merch does better because people you know the people see in the vlogs the the how you know

good good and Pine Park and and Gugin and everything that he's been involved with like always does better when people, when he like gets an inside scoop on like, people get an inside scoop on what he's doing. So I'm kind of like following that model as well where it's like, I have been doing, I think the amount of work that I've been doing in the past two months

has been probably the most I've ever worked ever. And people don't really know what I'm doing. So it would be cool to just like, it'll be cool to like document it, I think. Yeah. I'm excited. I saw you post on Instagram that you bought a camera. And I was hoping just like some random vlog would pop out.

But I'm sure you're not. I want the first one to be good. Yeah. Like I was almost expecting like, is he just going to like start it at his apartment and kind of like give a long update and talking about TST? And then maybe some shots at the office and the cod guys. Or I was like, or is he going to try to make this a fucking a hitch? Probably the second version, I would assume.

Well, I'm, I'm. excited to see the vlogs you know i've even thought you saying that i was i almost was like what camera are you getting how much was it because it like inspires even when i see i notice like if if i come around and i'm like this like bows will be like yo let's do something tomorrow i'm a vlog it yeah like when someone's recording around and like making a vlog or something and like makes other people want to absolutely and whenever i saw you by your camera i was like fuck i kind of like that's more something i because like it's cool doing like a little instagram real and stuff but i have to chop so much shit out of it so much it's just so short it's just a commentary you don't get any of like

maybe the funny moments and if there are funny moments it's just quiet anyway and i'm commentate commentating over it sort of just like explaining the moments i was like i kind of like i wouldn't mind some of the videos I see of people like in the gym and stuff with their edits, their camera qualities good as fuck. Like, and I'm like, fuck, I kind of like want to make content like that. But would it be, uh, I don't know. If I, if I was the vlog again, I don't know how it would it would be obviously just like a lifestyle normal kind of day in the life thing. But I don't know. Almost, uh, inspired me to get a vlog camera. Um, because I do, I do need to be doing something like that

getting the whenever I I noticed even with these reels whenever I was say I make one like Monday and then I'm texting both like yo let's go to the state fair Wednesday text tax yo let's go fishing

uh either Friday or like next Monday or something like it like it really gets momentum into like into doing shit and like gets those get your creative mind going a little bit then I feel like a picking up a just picking up a camera and recording would

help just like keeping some of that momentum and wanting to just at least put something out even if it's not the best shit maybe it's a boring vlog whatever it just like helps with just get your brain moving a little bit into that

sort of content there was a I pulled out my camera months ago and recorded do you remember we went to Friscoe designer and I was vlogging. Yeah. Bro, I was like nervous

vlogging that whole fucking day. Like I pulled out the camera and I'm like shaking and shit and I'm like pointing it at people and I'm like, it feels so, it just felt so weird. And I don't even think the vlog was bad. But then it like got home and I was like, okay, this is like,

how do I get it on my fucking computer again? Didn't have like one of those things. Like didn't have that to get on my computer. And I was like, okay, I got to order that. I don't have an editing program. What am I going to do? Dude,

then it was just like, all right, fuck it. Like, I wasn't even, am I even gonna make another one? Like, what's the fucking point?

Like, no, bro, right now I'm editing, I'm editing the first vision rewatch on the computer I edited vision on. On the same, on the Mac laptop or the Mac desktop from 2017.

Yeah. Bro, it is struggling. It's struggling. It's still, it still works. It still works. It still works

Kind of Yeah no I'm strived I mean I have to get a new one But I can't fuck I've got to I'm gonna work my way up How much was that camera Like 950 bucks Is that like the go to camera right now

Which one is that? Probably it's probably If you're looking for like a compact vlogging camera Not like a The Sony Z-E Z-V-E 10

Yeah Mark 2 I think That one is Really really really good. Roger was like that camera is basically like one of their big ass ones. Yeah it's like there's a few things at the big ass one obviously. Did you have to like

buy something extra? Just the mic. That's the that's the stock lens on it. But the lens does come off. But yeah it's it's a really really good camera. This is the camera that Seth uses for his webcam for his stream. Oh really? Yeah, the ZVE10 Mark2 I want to do a day in the life but then it feels so has it how's the how's picking up the camera turning it on how was

was the first thing you did we get was get the intro out of the way no i haven't done the intro you haven't done the intro yet because i have an idea you have a i have an idea of what i want the intro has it been weird turning it on like today's the first day oh really yeah today's like the first day i've really been like like i've gotten b-roll and i've gotten like i Like I unboxed a few things at my house with the camera on, but like I haven't really like Dived into it. So what's your is it going to be like a week in the life? Are you just going to I'm thinking a week. I'm thinking a weekly thing. Okay. A weekly vlog. But I'm trying to get ahead on this vision rewatch because I really want it to be you know decent and I want people to

I want it to be obviously consistent once a week and then have like a you know, a Patreon part to it as well. And the Patreon is combined. It's on new patrons combined because I needed more content for the Around the Bar Patreon, which is why I'm, you know, doing this as well. So. Well, hopefully it. Hopefully it. It's a lot of changes, bro.

Listen, if there's someone who's going to upload a vlog in Optic and I will actually click on the vlog and watch it, it will be yours. So you will have my view. You will have my like. One locked in. And I think I'm subscribed. But if I'm not, I'll subscribe. So you got one.

Riley, what about you? Are you going to watch it? No. He said, he went. So one, only one locked in. Only one locked in. Yeah. Well, shit, man.

Is there, was there anything else we needed to talk about today? I don't know. I think we're good. This might be an exciting time. Let's look at it that way. It'll be a new year. It's either an exciting time, brand new beginnings. Or you're watching the end.

Brand new beginnings for both of us. Or it's all. over and like this is the beginning of like oh that's where it all went wrong that's the moment right there yeah this is that this is that moment so it's either one of those two this could be legendary we might come back watch this moment 10 years from now and be like damn you'll see you'll see this part on like a documentary and be like and little did they know this is when it all an optic when this whole thing falls there's going to be a documentary on Netflix yeah and they're going to show this moment optic the reckoning and we're going to be on

this might be the first clip of the doc it might be well that's gonna do it for today's episode man uh yeah we should have some guests like i said we had neum on our on our last one our goal i told them just because we had some guests lined up we had a guest lined up today let's just say he said nah i don't want to so he didn't show up uh we do have a guess tomorrow i'm not sure when it's all when it's all going to come but I sort of told them like, you know, we can end the year with just some being hitch bullshit around, but 2026, you know, we plan on having a decent amount of gas switching it up a little bit. So shout out to all the real ones watching these men. And yeah, that's going to do it for us today. Appreciate you guys. And Riley play the outro music.