The Flycast - Interviewing The Best Esports Players in History | The Flycast Ep. 80

Episode Date: June 19, 2023

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We've been, We've been, We've never done that. We've never done that. But we should Because we should for our special episodes. We should for our special episodes in which we have today. First off, the flight cast is brought to you by Corderoy's in Center CBD sparkling drink.

But today's a special one. We have, of course, joined by Hitch. I know. And we have some guests. We know you guys love the guests. We have the two. So we dug. We dug deep.

Who can we get? We have to bring the best of the best. We were just given a talent salary. So we paid them each like, what, 10 grand or something like that for a guest. TJ 10, Aaron, 200. $200. $200. Dollars.

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. But yes, we are joined here today by two Halo legends. The two best Halo players in the history of the game. Arguably. If you're from the new school, you might call them the greatest HALO player of all time. If you're from the old school, you might say he's top 25, maybe. I can't tell if you're talking about Aaron or Lee T.J.

Who? Lethal is joining us today. And also. Aaron. Ace. Global champ. If you're new school, you might call him. I don't know if you know him, actually.

If you're from the new school, you might call Aaron. I don't know. It's actually surprising that people, that Global Champ win was such a big win. That like people, haven't you said like someone recognized you as like, oh, yeah, I saw you. you're the, aren't you the guy that won the global champ? You're the guy that yelled when they told you to yell. Pull the mic in as well.

It was like all three of us together. It was all three of us together. And they're like, that's ace. Yeah. Remember we like optic and shit? We were like, uh, L.A. or something at a Panda Express. Pull the mic to you. We were like, we were in L.A. like a Panda Express, I feel like a year after it happened.

Aaron's one, one biggest fan is at an L.A. Panda Express. So this is like, he just tells people, dude. The Global Champ came in here once. Like, who? Like, dude, I just want orange chicken. Before we start talking about Halo for the entire time, hopefully we get that. I'm sure Aaron can bring some other stuff to the table.

TJ, I think all he might know at this point is Halo. I don't even know that anymore. But, and it's also been a while since I've seen TJ. How you been, man? Anything new going on? What, uh, where are you at? My answers are bad. and no

no so how you do and bad yeah anything new no no and where am I in life good

here I guess I got nothing to say Aaron's on a whole new fucking journey in life yeah Aaron what dimension you could wait what dimension

are you doing this podcast from what same when you guys are thank you Aaron's vessel for joining us I'm doing better I mean, you know, I feel like having had the best success in Halo.

There could be a million factors I could say about that. But, you know, the past year I've just kind of been just doing other stuff, I decided to do a yoga training and that's kind of what had been up to for a while. And besides that, I just, you know, try to take care of myself and still been gaming a little bit here and there. You still are playing Halo, though? Yeah. You should cut that one on. We actually were, we just got top six in the last online.

tournament didn't have enough points to make the land that happened last a week or whatever but then my teammates left so that's what we're at right now so no respect you know the thick and the grass is greener on the other side they're not team he just quoted his own he just quoted his own tweet from yesterday I'm not even kidding people think they're like oh he changed teams you're going all of a sudden become like top three like yeah right you know would you say halo infinite's been your hardest game not like halo infinite's the hardest game for everyone Just not necessarily individually, but like, I've definitely,

I mean, obviously your placings in this game aren't as good as what you'd want them to be. Yeah. You don't know what he wants his placings to do? Dude, I don't know if TJ can agree because he's quite a lot, but. I feel like Halo Infinite is a, it's, I don't, compared to the other Halo's, like, yeah.

You don't even know what he's going to say. You don't need a full team to like, yeah. You don't need a full team to like even do anything. Like, if somebody's doing bad, in fact, you know what I mean? Like you, you could be like this position on the map and then you could just be dying over and over, but it couldn't, sometimes it's not even your fault. You know what I mean? Like the Halo Infinite is so, like, you can get across to every position on the map that like it's such a team game. Everyone needs to be kind of like on the same page the whole time.

And it's such a different halo than the other one. It ain't very fun. Yeah. It's not fun. It's not. No. It's like anti-fun. TJ, how are you coping with not winning every?

I do not care. We're not winning every event anymore. Well, at least ABG's got some wins. I'm happy for Brad. Every time I see Brad, he's just like happy. Dude, he's too happy now. Well, that's why I kind of,

I'm like half glad he got like brought down a step because he got third last event. But, you know, maybe like if he, I don't know, if he got like second, I feel like you would have been the perfect amount of like happy but not too happy to piss me off. You don't want him too much. Yeah.

But you want him a little more. He walks around here smiling. Like we did a... For no reason. We did a... I mean, APG had his... I don't know if he's necessarily struggled. He's always done like pretty good.

But like now it's like he's placing the best he's ever placed, really. Yeah. Recently has the best team he's ever been on. Imagine peaking it. You're 18th year. Yeah. No, that's crazy. Took him 18 years, but he figured it out, guys.

He figured it out. Like ABG's always been like, you want to run a top three, top four. He might get some top. top six is or something yeah he's always sort of been up there but for his fucking 18 18th season for him to finally like come on the now it could be like a return to the return to the mean we're like you know law of like averages everything averages out maybe after this run like he just goes and gets like top 24 three times in a row that way it just averages out to like he averaged the same placings throughout like this the period of events i can't believe i didn't

think like there's certain people who i would see being good at Halo Infinite. And APG's not one of them. Like, he just... Bards. Like, I figured he would just... That's bars. I figured he would just, like,

sprint around and die. But he's not the same idiot that he used to be. I mean, not in-game, but... I mean, not a game, he is. A little bit. I don't know. But the game's completely lame.

That's all I know. This game isn't the most complicated Halo ever. I mean, anybody that's... I can't. What is the most complicated Halo? I don't know if Hado's complicated. No, it isn't.

I don't know. This game is just like, I don't know. I don't know where to start. It's like a call of duty. It's a squad spawning. Yeah. We can go with this. TJ, if you guys don't know,

he used to, both of these people used to be on the Optic Halo team. How many Opti-Calibate teams are their best? TJ forced my retirement because he joined, they were the number one team. And, well, and Aaron was on the same. same team. Was Aaron one? Yeah, you guys were on the same.

I tried forcing both your retirement. I think it was me, you, APG and Heinz. He enforced both of your retirement, but only one.

Aaron didn't give up. Aaron didn't give up. Remember it was Nick throwing the towel instantly. It was it was weird. Optic Halo was me, you,

Heinz and APG. And I was like excited for that team. I was like, finally because I've been getting shit on in this fucking game. He said,

Hector, Hector. I got good news. And then yeah, here comes TJ. And he goes, I got good news too. And the number one fucking God squad.

I pull up in my 2000 Ford Explorer at the Optic House randomly. And he goes, why are you here? And I said, you know. You know, I'm. One reason why I got dropped and you pulled up like that night. Just like, where do I plug it? Fuck my shit in. Yeah.

Yo, Nick, get out. Forced me. I think you guys both. You guys both. Wait, finish what you were saying before I keep going on. They forced both. I mean, my point was about to be a whole fucking subject. Force my retirement

Yeah Like we had a solid team I was excited for that team Yeah I thought There might have been fucking hope But then TJ joins If you guys don't know anything about TJ's won How many events?

No Not as much as Tuger Well I mean Not as much as If you account for inflation Like Carry the two Yeah

It should be deflation in Halo right No You don't think so No Over two has like 500 wins Yeah, and a lot of them were like... And we're going to talk about all that. And this is where the events took place.

Like a room like this. That's why I'm saying. With this many players. Yeah, this was the finals. This would be the 2v2 turn. Well, that's the thing. Like, some of those tourneys that are counted are 2v2. So this actually was the finals.

Like, I mean, give us two CRTs and we're good. I'll see people counting wins from like 2003, 2V2 at fucking Ohio University. And I was just like, dude, that's that. Yeah. I feel like a lot of like, like, the players like on the list with that whole thing like I don't know I get I mean it's just it's just like a talking point for people because like I mean it's engagement on Twitter it's like the one good thing HDS is done and oh so god knows how long like even though it piss people off good like

people are talking about it instead of just like cod should do the same thing yeah be incredible yeah but a top 25 they should have a fan voted a top 20 no not fan voted no it should not be fan voted yeah it takes all legitimate we should we should get like the five people on a panel and make a top 25 list, have them tweeted out, and just watch and just sit back and watch the flames. And then release the list. Yeah. Isn't that what people are hashtagging for a little bit? Like all the old heads.

Like release the list. Like, I don't know. Like most of the people on the list. What was the worst decision on that list? The top 25 list. Maybe we should try to find the list. Try to find it. I already know what it is.

What is it? I'm first. Right? That's the worst? No The worst is that like Somebody hacked the account and like Change the graphic

Like and put me too All right Hey the top They told me I was first And then the list came out And then someone changed it last second All right before before we get into the list DJ

Do you remember how do you know how many events you've won? No Like 20 something 20 30 something like that Not 30 but not 20 When was your first event went I mean Was it the rally

2011? Rawley. Raw? Raw. Yeah. That freak fucking when Blaze carried? Dude.

That guy's crazy. Well, technically, Dallas 2010, even though there was H3 Nats, but I want to find this. There was that Reach tournament. I want to find this list. Is I coaching you for that? No, that was the combine.

There was like a... Wait, no. Yeah, the Dallas 20... Well, there was like a... There was like, yeah, there was like a... It was at Dallas 2010 when H3 Nats was going on. You know, I was like just like the eight teams. There was like a reach thing with basically the people that weren't in H3 Nats.

And then, I mean, it was sold out. It was like 256 teams. But yeah, I think there was like a show match thing. And you coached me in it. A show match. Yeah, there was. Yeah, it was like during that tournament. It was just like it was on like feature station randomly.

But you went on to win, like, Amish adrenaline. We played like, I don't know. But did we win this show match, too? Yeah, I went like plus 30 every game. I actually, I actually did farm them. I think we beat clutch. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did.

I forgot about that until now, but that was actually pretty fun. Because it was all the people from like the combine thing right before that that were like in the little draft thing. And you guys just ran, they, I don't know. And there was Bloom and also Bloom Sprint. Yeah, no. There was no Sprint. There was no Sprint. No, it was the best rech settings.

It was the best reach settings for sure. It was better than no Bloom, no Sprint. Yeah. It was better. no bloom no sprint because Bloom actually well we had Sprint because Naded and Goofy's team voted for it because they wanted to play reflection one flag with Sprint yeah and then they got top

16 and Twilight tweeted real pros please stand up after they beat us an online tourney and then he got top six and then and then he got top 16 of the land and also he you're having Twitter beef in 2011 that was a one of the best I just made Twitter I literally signed up and it said notification and it was this guy saying real pros please stand up because they because we got second an online turning I think Twilight was like the

first person I followed on Twitter. Yeah, well, Twilight also told Royal 2 he's going to beat up his dad, so. That's not a good thing to say. Well, I think he did it because Roel 2 was like 15 at the time, so he like couldn't beat up Royal 2. So he's going to beat up his dad? It's either that or you beat up a minor. I mean, that's true.

You might have to beat up the guy's dad. I mean, Bose just tweeted something like that. I'll beat you up in three years. Someone tweeted Bose, like some random account tweeted Bose this morning, like 9 a.m. Who is Twilight? Fucking saying something like, I don't know, something about hex is his daddy. He lives off hex and Bose was like, if he said this in real life, I'd end up stealing off on his pops or something. Like, that's what I wake up to at 9 a.m. and see.

And you're just laughing. Bose said, if this guy in real life, I beat up Roll 2's dad. If this guy said this is me in real life. That's insane. Me and Twilight would whoop Rollo 2's dad's ass. Twilight was my boyfriend a little bit. But we were both little thugs. We thought we were.

You thought you were? y'all both had beef until you pulled up on roll Tuesday because he's a real one is he? Yeah I don't even I don't even think

I've never met he's just shouts out of Rootto's dad you birth the fucking two legends insane Halo player Is Royal one the best coach

of all time? Who knows? Before we get in the best coach I'm sorry Let me once I coach Once I coach it's over Once I coach is over

Should we get into Coach Nick I have the time Top 20. I have the top 25 list. All right. I was a coach. I want to, I want to champion. Technically true.

You were a national champion coach? Yeah, he carried. He was shitting. Yeah. Hey, some good coaches are underrated. Yeah. I mean, Mazik was a pretty good coach. I mean, he was national champion.

He's a national champion. There was, there was some people who, or some coaches, like their vibe behind you. It's like, like, how. So get away. Like, when you know they're looking at your screen, you like play back. better. Or it's like they're lasered and they're just like not even calling out because they're watching a screen.

It's like some coaches would get like literally laser. Yeah. And you could tell. Like you could tell they're just. That shit's so serious. Yeah. I mean, I guess you should. If you got destroyed or something like they would sigh and like they're part of the

dude. And it would just ruin the team. Like something goes to shit and they go. It's like shut up. Like we know we know, we know man. We know. And they're in your comms too. That's the best.

Yeah. Oh, that's good. I remember one of my locals, his gamer tag was Tempest. He coached. It was like me, neighbor in the clutching cloud. He was friends with the skins, right? Yeah. And he coached us.

And he was, it was like game one of like, I don't even, I don't even think they were like, pool. Wait, is this where you guys played one game? And then you guys had him stop coaching? Yeah. Not stop coaching, but neighbor was like, yo, uh, Tembish, shut up. Like, because he was like. Literally, game one into coaching of the tournament. Like, he's super nervous.

Like, he's sort of like a Halo fan. He was okay, but, like, maybe, like, top. Probably not. Top 48, but, like, he's coaching. First game of the event. And, like, he just starts calm and, like, he's in the game with us. And they were just like, dude, Timis, just shut up. Just work.

Get times. Just worry about Camel. He's, especially me. You're not playing. Yeah. It was. He felt like, that, like, he still has, like, trauma from that. I don't think he's ever come.

Yeah, no, I never got. on the game. I mean, why would you? Like, he's still like, you got told to shut up. Like, you're listening. He's still, like, talked about it. He still hasn't talked to this day. Um, he's waiting for neighbor to give him.

He's waiting for a neighbor to give him permission to talk again. EU, cloud, and regicide story. Dude. When we're in Halo 4. I don't think so. That counts as an event one. One of the funniest moments of my house. For those people who won that.

I don't know who won that. APG. It was like Heinz and APG there We got We lost a Spartan and proverb So this was Halo 4 Some dog shit tourney It was in Pittsburgh

Was it? I watched the Halo 4 I didn't even go to it Oh Pitts who were you with at Pittsburgh Were you guys on the same team? Pittsburgh might have been Yeah you were coaching him

Yeah might have been like That's the one that APG and snapped on them And beat them I don't know about Atlanta The Naval for Pittsburgh Yeah enable Cloud and Durski Me and Naval Cloud and Dursky I was coaching yeah

Yeah, we were there. What the fuck? That memory has literally left my mind. Yeah, I think it was me, Aaron, Cloud, and then this guy regicide who was like a sponsor sort of. Like we weren't going to go, but he was like, yo, I'll pay for your shit. And then we go. And I don't know.

Why didn't we take it serious at all? Like, we woke up Sunday of the tournament. Like, we're about to play for the top. That was every AGL for pretty much most of us, except for ambush who was trying way too hard. Is that an interest team? No. How formal got all his wins?

Yeah. So formal's not actually the goat? Is that what you say? He's like top 50. I mean, the AGL top 25 list just came out. And he's no, yeah,

he's number one. But yeah, me, A's cloud red aside. And he just paid for a shit. And like, I don't know how we were so disrespectful to where like, we woke up Sunday about to play for like top four.

And we just like, we were just drinking beer Sunday morning. like in our hotel, like drinking 40s. We get down there. Not like drunk at all. Tipsy. But, you know, we start this. Like we play.

We're up. Why did, why was it a best of, wasn't it a best of seven? We lost to like formal's team in winners. So no one really, it was just kind of like for fun. You know what I mean? But it was like it was like it wasn't. Yeah. We three owed them the day before or that.

Oh, we three owed them the day before. It was like Spartan goofy red proverb and somebody else. like Rob the Turtle. I don't even lost the proverb. Yeah, so we're up 3-0, and I remember Formal was coaching us. Prover B at Pittsburgh, too. We're up to a best of 11 series, right?

The formal starts coaching us, the first two games. Didn't he just leave? Didn't he start coaching you? He just left. I'm out. And he just leaves. And he had nothing to do. He was in the finals.

He's got this. We're up 5-0, and then, and Regicide is on the Halo 4. There's like those clan tags. He put in the custom lobby, and he's, like, put, like, 4-0. Like, like, every, oh, yeah. His gamer text said Rediside and in like the brackets.

He made his plan tag like four. I swear it was the 360. You could make like a local account so you could change the actual gamer tag that showed in the game. So he made it like Reggie 3-0, Reggie 4-0. Because we were just wend and stomping them. Dude. And then they beat 5-0 and then formal leaves like goes outside and we start losing. And he's like 5-1.

He keeps changing it. He keeps updating it. It's like Reggie 5-0. It was his job to keep track of the series for everybody. What was it? Like first to six? First to six. Yeah.

It's like Reddy 5-1, Reggie 5-2, Reggie 5-3. No. And then I think when it hit. Yeah. He goes all the way to 5-1. Then he goes, Reggie lost. Dude, there's no way. I mean, that was fucking.

And by then they're hammered because they're 2040s the whole series. They're 5-0 and they're like, we're good. I remember. No, they were in the hotel room later that night. And he's like acting like he's sleeping. He's not. Nick is like telling the story. He pops up.

Bro, I've never heard that story. I think Nick just unrepressed it. It's just another moment where I try to just like black that shit out. Well, a lot of the Halo Force stuff was like that. Like, when you say like, why weren't we trying?

Like, that's, we went to two H-4 tournaments. We didn't play the game. I didn't own the game. I remember before Pittsburgh, I didn't really play the game. The first time I had ever heard of TJ was

the fight that went viral between TJ and Ninja in the lobbies of Halo 4 those fucking idiots he was right I'll be honest TJ was right I could have worded some stuff better but here's the thing it was 2012 so like

I actually couldn't have with the vocabulary available like to the human race at the time like all the words that were invented at the time like I used them properly it's funny the one guy you got into an ultimate fight ended up being the biggest streamer of all times. I don't think classic.

He needed that. Yeah. My dad. People know, like, I win, but I still lose. People know Ninja came from Halo, but like, he was, Ninja was like such a little shit. Like, not that people didn't like him. No, but he was, he was a little shit.

There was, there was, he was cool. But like, he was, I think he was cute. I mean, he is, yeah, hell cute. He was annoying to play against him. And with and watch. Watching it was kind of fun. Like, him versus the Suds, reality check. Him versus the Suds 1V1 stream.

He was like the only Halo streamer. Yeah. For a while. He's still the only halo streamer. Like to this day. Formal, formal, is carrying. Does he stream?

I don't know if he streams. I don't know. I think the only people that stream are Spartan sometimes. Oh, yeah. Spartan does stream. Dude. It's on my team. What the hell?

He does stream a lot. All right. Should I say the top 25 list? But in that I brought up 15 minutes. I kind of just wanted to go down the list. There's a structure here. I just, I want to go down the list and when you two like maybe disagree or thing like that.

Yeah, start at one. Number one. Disagree. Disagree heavily. No, I guess it's fine. But it's not. Let's talk about this. I mean, it's fine.

It's fine simply because I don't care. I think, like, I could, I could be completely butchering this. I love Tom. He's dog shit, dude. Shouts out mutineers. But he's ranked number one, Halo player of all time. He is, I mean, I'm wearing a final boss shirt in honor of him. Yeah, like, an absolute legend.

Definitely amazing what he's done. But I think I looked it up one time. And I think, like, 30. of his wins came by like 2006. Like he had like 30 wins by like 2006. Before 06, I think in 2004 and 2005, I think there was an average of an event every three weeks. Yeah, there was like 10 events a year.

No, there was like 16. Right. Like, yeah, there was a lot. The competition. Some of them are TV2 and stuff. But like, it's kind of thing I was saying earlier. Like people like argue about it and got so mad about it. But the people on it at least high up, I don't think really care.

Because like I'm not going to, I'm not going to go through. Tugger's wiki and like pick out everything because like I did I mean the guy yeah but it was well that's the thing like it's a talking point and it's good for that like and people are going to do that but I'm not going to do it because like what is he supposed to do at the time I mean he's 2004 so why is he even going to tournaments for video games like aren't you in middle school like me like I just remember when Krem started winning when he got to 32 or something he was like I'm gonna catch I'm going to catch Tugger like that was his goal what's yeah no he's won since that.

That's respectable. But it's, or now he's been a few times since then, actually. Because I remember that whole thing. I just don't remember like, but it was just because it was a blur or something. It goes from, we were in MLG at the time.

It goes from MLG to CWL. So it cuts back a few events. Then we go from CWL to CDL. Yeah. Now we have only 12 teams. And then it's like what counts like and then summer online. Because that whole year was online actually. Right.

It's like five tournaments a year. It's like, so hard to compare. We used to have two a month. Like if you want. Like if you want to count and compare things, like everything has nuance. It's like, like, the details like around the tournaments at the time. Like, oh, it's a small thing in a ballroom.

And then like, oh, well, this one's technically online only. Like, you could find like things to pick and choose for all of it. So. Yeah, I just think when when you came in or when you started winning was sort of like the peak of halo to where everyone learned. All right, this is how we scrimmed. We set up, we set up scrims. This is, we know how to practice. We're learning, we know how to get better.

In the beginning of Halo, bro, people just like, no one didn't scream. And the practice that there was gotten after a while was like, all right, we'll go to the, we'll go to TLN for a weekend right before the event. Oh, yeah. Hopefully we figured out. Like, when you started winning, I feel like was just like the peak. And then the valley.

Hey. Wait, what? It's reddles. Oh, what the fuck? He just started mocking magic bear. It was really loud. Yeah, no, when TJ started winning it, it was just the, I think. That's not all without hell.

It was the peak. It was like peak scale. Not peak halo. Because I think there was something super special about like 2006, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009. But like by 2010 and 2011, when TJ started working, winning. I feel like everyone was hitting their peak. He started hitting his peak, started winning,

and then just kept winning ever since. Big man agrees. Yeah. Big man agrees with you. Even won an event. Even won an event last year. Oh, yeah. Would you say this is your hardest? Well, actually, let's get back to the top 20 before I got. No, we're at one. Actually, I got to one. I got to like,

I thought he said, well, one, well, before I start. Do you think that Wait, you said that people in the top 10 don't care? I mean, I wouldn't think so if they do. They're weird. Do you think Tugar cares? I think Tugre does care. I think he cares as in like,

I think he cares in the sense of like he doesn't feel like he wants to. He doesn't want to get disrespected by like, because that's the thing. When people compare them, it's never just like a talking point like in support of someone. It's like, oh, like, I don't fucking know. Like, Tugger's got more like, Lethal's event wins are like, like, Halo's fucking shit now.

Like, it's always one side arguing for that. Like, Hey, who's shit then or shit now? Yeah. And then some are just like, it's always like tearing down one person. As opposed to just like your argument for it. So I feel like he probably like, he cares in the sense of like don't disrespect me. Like, especially to people that are talking about it because like. I think he defends.

Because like, like, I mean, why would you? I don't know. Because we kind of diminish how we kind of. diminished the like 2004 2005, 2006. Yeah, the plumbers. 2003. Like he's playing against like drunk college students, plumbers.

Drunk Knicks. But like yeah, probably drunk M's. I think he looks back at it and like, no, like these motherfuckers. That was that would have been Tugger's hardest finals. He's looking at like no, these motherfuckers were grinding like on XBC. It's not as bad as what you these players weren't as bad as what you thought they were.

Like everyone was trying to take us out. And I think he sees it on a whole different side. There is something to say about the dominance of their 2v2. I mean, as 2v2 never really. You're telling me one guy and another guy couldn't just do good one year. Like, y'all couldn't step up once. Like you went like one good player and another friend? Like they never lost.

It's something like that. Like literally no one beat them. It's something like that. Yeah, I mean. Most of the time in tournaments. Yeah. That was Halo 1. Just kill him.

Like, let's kill him and win the game. I understand how over one. The real question is, how do we validate that? Yeah, where are the vods? Do we even know? That could just be like a myth, an urban legend. There's not even YouTube videos. He has to get clap to confirm.

He doesn't know what he's saying. NLG. He doesn't know what he's saying anymore. It's been so long, like memories aren't even like a valid thing. Their memories have memories. Yeah. I wish I would have seen a 2003, 2004 tourney. So it is great.

I mean, even, I don't know. I mean, they were, they were, I guess it happened. I guess they happened. There was enough to you. There's probably 32 to 64 teams in Halo 1 at those tournaments. Really? But it's like, I just think it was so new that like, it's like a Will Chamberlain. He's like, oh, yeah, what's basketball?

Yeah, I think I'll just got 100 points, 49 rebounds, 63 assists. Then everyone else is like, we're not too sure how to take this guy down and it's still so new. It's like, we don't even really know how to get better. Maybe we shouldn't be 5'4 and out of shape playing against him. That's true. Maybe we should actually turn the game on. Let's get some athletes. Runner.

Figure out how to throw a nade. All right. Number two, lethal. Strongly agree. Maybe flip them. If you, all right. What's the lowest?

What's the lowest you'll give someone? Where are they, you so respect the two? What if somebody gives you three? No. Crazy? I know you don't care. I mean, it has to,

I would have to, I would have to hear the, I would have to hear the reasoning. If they give me like fine reasoning, I'm just like, all right. I mean, there's just like,

Like if they give me some dumb shit, I'm like, wow. Your opinion just doesn't matter in life. Number three, snake bite. Number three? Yeah, people had some issues with this. Well, number four is pistola. Which I don't understand. And number five's row two.

Yeah. How can you split the, oh, I don't know their history. I feel like they both were placing. Yeah, they're the same. They came in the same time. Snake bite was in first, but like. Snake bite was. getting like top 16 first but like those placings aren't helping him on this list he was getting like

top 16 with like Robbie B or something and it does maybe like a top eight or something so I don't know how that would even like help I don't understand how snake buying row or two or you can I think you can only differentiate it because snake by I feel like they should be next to each other regardless like on the list like right next to each other but I think snake by would be higher simply because if you're gonna have you have you can't give him the same number like yeah so just because he was a little longer and there's a couple tournaments where he played in Roe 2 didn't.

Like the St. Louis 2019 Halo 3 event the like first like when we went back to H3 the pretty big one is me APG snake bite and Nico and we won so I guess I guess he beats Roaldi there for a random Halo 3

journey in 2019 boost it's a diebreaker it's a diebreaker. There's more teams there than all the other I can't believe they're not beside each other I think that's wild I You team with both. When? For a long time. When?

Prove it. I think 20, like 14, 15, 16, 17, 17, 17, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22? No, not 2014. Would you... Do you have the balls to pick one? Of who would you rather form a team with? A snake bite and you guys find two or royal two and find two? I mean, either option, they're just going to recruit the other one as the other two.

The first thing Yeah Like I need him I need Roe 2 Or I need Snakebite So you're gonna get dropped For them Probably we've lived this

We've lived in this scenario Snakebite Why do they like refuse to do anything Without each other They've won so much But it's like they're like It's almost like their brothers It's like Roe

Are they best friends Or are they co-workers They're friends I don't know their best friends I mean I don't know how to judge If someone's best friends you teamed with them for 10 years

you probably know oh yeah I mean they're no they're really good friends obviously I don't think you could possibly team that long if you if you didn't like each other I'm sure there are duos out there that like well it's just like

one time I asked TP like fuck this guy but like one time I asked TP who his worst teammate ever was and he immediately said eggs and then I said who's your favorite teammate and then he said eggs so I'm sure that's how a lot of duos are

Or it's like, all right, so they were, they were separate questions, T.P. Worst and best aren't the same. Your favorite and your favorite. I mean, that's kind of, that's kind of respectable to Aix. Like, shout out to him for being the best team and the worst and the worst. Like, one of the most iconic duos in God. He's like, dude, I'm taking all the records. I think somebody was trying to.

For Akes, that makes sense. I think for the ACS list, somebody was trying to break them up, PJ and, uh, and, Royalty. Yeah. they were like let's especially by putting a person let's put Ola in between them even though I think Ola I thought Ola was gonna be I thought it was like top three lock

like that's what I thought going into it well I think a lot of people did at the time because like number four came out and it was like Ola and everyone's like because like by then you know who's left but everyone's just like I don't think so I don't agree with that one you team with Ola right I know no I'd replace him Well, I went to a random H5 tourney with envy.

It was Hugh Eric and Ola and Mickwin didn't go. And my team wasn't going because we didn't go to tournaments if they weren't worth a certain amount. Because we looked down on the poor people. Yeah, we were optics. So like, you know. Yeah. So like I filled in for them and we went as truce and we won. So I guess technically I did.

I think I remember that. Yeah. That was in the scuff house. What was the team name? Yeah. What was the team name? Truce, because it was during the whole me and Eric thing and like optic and envy. It's pretty cute.

It's pretty cute. Wait, when? Where, yeah. St. Louis, the same St. Louis that's always a, that's UGC one. I actually like that place. It's in Collinsville, Illinois, by the way, not St. Louis. But that place has low-key, like, kind of lit. It's got like a, it's not just a white castle and a steak and shake, but.

You get into a public, a public rivalry with Ninja. He goes on to become the biggest stream in the world. You get into a public argument and the thing is I win and the thing is I win both the argument He becomes one of the biggest Apex streamers and he just never lost the argument

Yeah Can you fight me? No, can we get into a problem? That's what I'm gonna say like Can they thank me? Like Can they thank me? You guys want my cash app?

Like. DJ only beefs with greatness. Yeah, if I beef with you you know you're destined for some sick shit. Who are you beefed with now? It's myself. myself and I'm losing is there any beef in the first off

your team with Spartan the dog does he have just Spartan now dude does he beefing with people I can't imagine check his Twitter right now check his Twitter right now I'm not even getting you'll see I guarantee you're teaming together I just don't see

how I mean I can team with anyone yeah I'm a very I'm a very sociable, adaptable, you know, easygoing person. Like, unless you're ninja in that H4 lobby, like, I'll probably fine with you. Spartan will start up the stream.

Like, yeah, stream's starting. Then, like, three hours later, stream ends. Three and a half hours later, a montage of everything that, everything bad that happened on that stream is put into a montage. And everything good.

For us tweet that's scheduled for when he goes live in two hours. After that. Yeah, no, he's online a lot. The grind, though. I mean, you see, that'd be off one. I actually was Spartan, like, two times. I liked it. He wasn't, I think he's been up and down

in how he was, you know? When he was even with me, it was actually perfectly normal. What was your favorite team? You meet Brad and Matt? I love hearing about it. I love stories about that tournament. DJ's, yeah, DJ's talking to me, him, APG, and formal. We went to one.

We're undefeated. We're one for one. The broken H2A where you can see through the walls and stuff. No, you couldn't see the walls The game just wouldn't start. Was that the same tournament?

It was bad. There was something wrong with it. Like real wrong. No, it wasn't like gameplay broken. It was just a lot of other things are broken. What H2A? Yeah, like that tournament.

Like Aaron said we could see through walls. I couldn't see through the walls. Maybe you could. They're still losing. They're getting top eight out of eight. They're getting the same placing as elitist and legion and Gandhi and Maven. There was something real wrong with the event. There was eight teams.

They were somehow a roster, and then there was seven pro teams. We played them round one. They were. Played them round one. It was like the invitational, right? It was just like eight. It was like pretty long before the HALO MCC actually came out. No, it was like no one.

MCC came out the Sunday of the tour. Oh, really? Because we all stayed after, and that was the time with the guy with the sword. Sword. Dude, I don't remember what was gone. We were like super drunk. It was just a guy with a sword walking around. And we just were, we were drunk in.

We thought it was awesome. Like a real sword? An energy sword. It was an energy sword. Okay. Yeah. We just all started, we just, we grabbed him all of us. And we just started yelling sword.

And he just started raising. I don't know what the fuck was going on. But MCC just came out. And we were like thinking about going home or staying like a day or two after. And we stayed. And then the game. because we wanted to go home and play because everyone was hyped for it and then the game did not work at all so we were like

fucking idiots like thank god we didn't go home because like you couldn't actually play the game we used to like randomly find ourselves remember when we were like in L.A and we just like thought L.A. was like so cool and all we would do would just like wake up drink and just wake up and wake up and be like L.A.'s cool

and then that's it we would wander around with like our we would just go from hotel to hotel hotel until they kicked us out and then That was us two and Brad and then that GJ was the king of just milking a free hotel room by just not leaving. Is that where you got it from?

Brad? Dude, well Brad would put the little thing so the door doesn't shut and like he would just not leave but like his card wouldn't work. It's like he couldn't shut the door ever otherwise he'd be fucked but like he just put the thing if we left and then we just came back and went back in

I used to do some random shit like we would I remember us just like walking around trying to find another hotel with our with our old each case. Why didn't we just book two nights? No. I think back and I'm like, wait. Same. I always think back and I'm just like, dude.

Why didn't we just like, like I know, I remember booking them online and we could just choose the dates. Like, but it would we do one day and be like, what are we talking do now? We'd be like, damn, our time is up here. We got to find a new place. It's not even like we're milked for free.

We're paying. Yeah. I think it's because we would just like, we'd be like, we'll stay. one more day. Three more days go by. Are we going to stay? I don't know.

Let's just walk around. God, we're stupid, dude. We used to, like, go to clubs and shit randomly. We would,

I mean, we were fucking nerds, too. No, but we were cool. We were cool. I remember in our, in our bubble. Yeah,

in our four-man bubble, we were the coolest. The club that we'd go to in L.A., like that little complex, you took the escalator up in downtown Hollywood, whatever. It was called, what was it called?

Oh, Oh, HM? Yeah. Is that the one where, which one of you guys went outside? You're like, I'll be it back and I was like, you definitely won't be able to get back in. And you're like, oh, I'm fine. And then 30 minutes later, my phone rings. I have six missed calls and it's whoever went outside couldn't get back in, of course. So then we all go out with our genius ideas to get them back in and none of us can get back in.

And then it was just ABG in there. And he had no idea where we were. Yeah. Yeah. You used to get fucking. Yes. And like we would always not like have to babysit him We kind of have to babysit him

We'd have to like sober up real quick and be like I don't know how we never got robbed You're like we probably did I mean chunks Aaron Chunks Well dude because he remember He threw his shirt He won't that threw up in that

You were the only person who threw up And we had the Uber stop so you could throw your shirt Into someone's bushes That's when we called him chunks He threw up I don't know if he threw up in the U. we even go home after that or did we know we went we went to the CLG house yeah we were on the way back to the CLG house with shirtless yes it was APG shirt he was so pissed he was like because

Aaron or he was like he let Aaron use his shirt and Brad specifically said like do not let anything happen to it and it's in someone's hedge with just chunks everywhere So gross Those were definitely my favorite times Yeah so this was number three on the list Yeah we got three on the list Yeah this was about snakebite Or little like BTH squad we'd call it

Because we were just at all Every event BTS 3 ABG Do you remember the days of the BTH group chat In the Scuff House? It was like us Evolved into that Like even then we'd go to events

And BTH Twitter BCH quotes Just like oh it's a hot event But what does go We just do things And now we miss me with I'm surprised I even came here you guys called me at like the best time yeah like I was like you're out walking around and I was like the like I had one drop of dopamine that day and it hit and it hit right as you called I was like I can I can call back and then right after that I can

set my car and I was like the fuck that I just do then then you get my text everyone good for one you know I had woke up 10 minutes for that and I was and I just went yeah man why does I want expect so much for me. Like, why am I expected to do so much? She said to go one place. To go and do one thing. And I thought she was going to take you here. I thought she was going to be chilling. Yeah, I kind of thought that too. She can't do shit. She ain't going to do shit. She doesn't. Well, I was going to say she does less to me, but that's not true. I kind of, I want to take advantage of the fact that like one of the best FPF, two of the better, the best and pretty good FPS player. That's insane.

Who am I don't want to... Where are you stand? I mean, I'm done. Nick brings the average, three pig shit gamers and Hedge. Thanks. Yeah.

I don't want to talk about the most like basic shit, but I feel like some of our viewers might enjoy some intel from like the best of the best. Trust me. What?

Your viewers have already left their hate comments, shit talked, disliked, and waited for the next episode. What's like... They do that again? They repeat.

What's like some new? No, noob questions I could ask about just like, when did, not like, when did you, why was your team so good? What did you, what? I know I like can't even. That is a noob question. Thank you. I can't. And I know why.

No, I can't. If this was snake bite sitting here, he'd be like break down. Yeah. Give you some bullshit. The thing is, like if you, that was like, I can't. Like, like, for all the nubes out there, like, if Nick asked that and someone starts giving you like a real, like, that's not how. No. TJ is the goofiest top two player.

You think you either got it or you don't. I mean, you do good or you do bad or you do okay. It depends. I mean, or you could be like winning or nothing. And then it's either you do good or you do bad. I want to be like, what did you do?

Like, be so good. Just didn't suck. I mean, I can't like ask you. We just didn't suck. Like, what was your,

that's the key. Like, you just don't suck and like you make sure you don't suck. I want to get like, and like, and like, I want to get the mental. Ideally,

like, even if you. suck though like you can you can pull it together if you just have a little bit of ice like you can be off and like clutch it yeah and win that's my specialty you ever get nervous because I feel like you're very you never seem

not really your play style is never panicky and it's just very super consistent when I was filming you guys envisioned like you I filmed you guys lose twice which is crazy props to you no smoke up your ass but both times you lost it was really weird how you guys looked

because I filmed a lot of teams where they would get angry or they would get very sad and you guys were almost robotic in your losses but you were also robotic in your wins except for Royal 2 he's the attorney's over either way Royal 2 was the only one that would celebrate out of all four of them

he would like it's like the second we won there's like a one second window where like he'll do some shit like he'll stand up he'll bark or like like yeah no he'll bark he'll just like hit his chest You're like, but after that it's over, like one second. Yeah. You guys just like kind of just like,

well, they get mad. Well, they get mad. They just, they don't show. Don't. What was it like? I don't really. Since you guys were winning so much, what, what, what would a loss be like? Like, was it ever depressing?

You guys just going right back to the lab. You sit down in your hotel room, snake bites giving an hour long. Oh, he gives that anyone. Like, win, lose. It doesn't mind. He's like, he will be talking about it. Yeah. It will be.

Win or loss you. get a breakdown of everything that could have been there. I mean, it's like, the only way I can explain it from my opinion, it sucks, it's just like, well, I'd have preferred to win. But like, no shit, I guess. I would have preferred to win. Yeah, I don't know. You just don't like analyzing it so much. Because there's nothing to analyze.

I feel like, see, but then we got Aaron. Aaron, what would you say? Because I feel like you are a big analyzer of Halo, how to get better. certain what your mindset going into practice you do breathing you do like if i lost a tournament got second like no just like what helped you become a good consistent halo player what was your like mentality going into practice going into tourneys is there anything special you did just to play the game in general i feel like and with the team you kind of just like a take tips you'd give to a fucking new.

You just take your, anytime you're doing something wrong, you like ask yourself, why, you know what happened? What am I doing wrong? Am I not in flow state? Like,

am I not, you know, why did I spawn and go here? That's not the right place to go. Like, oh, I just died doing this. Maybe I shouldn't do that anymore type thing. You know what I mean?

Maybe I shouldn't go over here on this map and do that. Like, I've never thought of these things. And then. I may be subconsciously, I guess. I feel like it should be subconscious.

Aaron had, so Aaron had, Aaron won the Halo 4 Global Champs, which is like, Halo 4, we kind of look out as a joke. But that one event, the global champs, where it was a, a lot of hype there. There was a free-for-all. Yeah, we were desperate. One of my favorite tournaments to, like, ever watch again. Maybe my favorite, because it starts out with a free-for-all, and then the top eight.

That was so rare. Through the free-for-all play a 1-V-1. No, like the top four in the finals was a free-for-all. If you got top four in the final free-for-all, that was 1-V-1s. Okay. One played four, two play three. But like people are seeing like four. Got a formal. Wait, so who did you play first?

One v. One. Straight sick. He got first. Straight sick won every free for all in the whole tournament that he played in. It's so weird. And then he, and the form,

yeah, it was a free for all tournament, but the last free for all finals, they just decided the top four are going to do one v ones. He got first place every heat. I would have been furious. Well, they do that before the event started. Yeah,

but like, I mean, someone, Someone make him get second. To call him a free for all tournament. I do kind of like the 1v1s. I can see it, but it's like, dude, if I'm with every single one of them, I'm like, really?

Like even watching Cloud in like 2007, he got like top four in the free for all. Then he played like karma or some shit in a 1v1 or like two. I think that's how a lot of them were. Cool to see. If you're winning every free for all, it'd just be so annoying. He was doing free forls in Halo 2, like 2005. And still not losing.

Yeah, I don't understand. Never won a 1v1 though. His competition was. was like maybe one or two good players. Yeah. His competition knows if a phase wasn't like super high. You know what I mean?

But Aaron, you were always like a good, really good player. But I don't think, like people are seeing formal. People are seeing pistola. It's probably sniped down. No,

he was in. You think Royals in them were... Contra. I mean, there's just certain people people who are thinking are gonna like... Yeah, I was like seventh or eighth on everyone's predictions.

Even you guys. Even your tweets. Even you guys. Yeah, idiots. I actually had you. Maybe eight. I said, I genuinely didn't expect Ace to be here, so I don't know. I can't predict him.

Aaron makes it to the final for 1v-1s. First you 1v-1. Straight-sick? I don't even remember the score of that. It was 5 to 2 with like 5 minutes left and then I won't. 5 to 2? With like 5 minutes. I think straight-0-no-no-no.

No, 2 to 5. Sorry. He was up 5 to 2 and there's only like 5 minutes left. Oh, yeah. Stick choked? I think he did choke. I think he was. I died him like, all right, I gotta do something different.

With a couple minutes left, if it's five to two, clearly it's pretty slow game. Yeah. And he started like chowling pretty hard, I think. Yeah, not, because how are you dying? Because in that game, you could just sprint instantly. She'll come back, like, that's why the scores, you could just run away. Later. Yeah, what are they going to do?

Sprit after you? Like, they have to sprint too. They can't shoot. Like, you're just right behind. You all are both running. I'll get you. Or three-a-a-old. One-B-1 on the other side.

Legit. I don't remember this word. It was. He won by. I think he won with a really weirdly pop off at fucking time. And then not. And then completely not when I team

with him. Yeah. Yeah. It was funny because after we played, the one we won legit in pistol were playing, and I don't know if they made us, but they just had two chairs next to each other, so me and straight sick after we just played, or sitting next to each other

backstage, yeah, watching. After he lost? Could he not leave? I don't know what. We were literally I just remember that he was sitting next to me for that. So you be straight sick. Pistola, the fucking machine beats legit. What's your mindset going into the 1v1 for how much was it? 200.

Winner gets? I wasn't thinking about it. He's 75 for seconds, 200 for first, you know, before taxes. 200 grand. And third got 15. But you're going, but you're going to get 15 or something. You're going against Pistola. What's your mindset where you like, damn?

this is really fucking happened because it's not like you were like winning hella events before and you were like this top player like you were a good player but you were to just ace tv you're you're elam's brother cal you're elamite's little brother that's fucked up and somehow somehow now he's your big brother you think that's how i thought about myself during that time this is what we're getting to you you made it to the one v1 finals with pistola for 200 grand what's your thoughts going into it I was just... The biggest stage I think HALA was seen since.

In the moment, just... I mean, it was a little bit different of an experience when you put on a headset and it's just like blasting white noise before we used to play with white noise. And I mean, a lot of white noise. You're just like in your own little mind and your own little world, you know what I mean?

Just like in the game of Halo. Like that's it. Yeah, with your own thoughts, it's like hard. It's like, well, just in your own thoughts in your own head, just playing against some person on the other side, you know? Playing against a state of the moment. And I just ended up closing it.

it out. It was super close. Everyone, you know, if you haven't seen it, you should go see it. But yeah. You had the concussion rival? I had the concussion, yeah. I don't know how it happened. It was crazy. I'm not going to lie. You probably ended up with that weapon. You're like, all right. I remember years later at different times I've watched it and watched the end.

I'm like, damn, I'm getting nervous watching this shit. You know what I mean? Like, I'm actually, I go. I get more nervous watching things. That's the only time I get nervous. It's watching stuff you already know the outcome of? Just watching stuff in general. Oh. Probably just, I don't know. I kind of feel like that as well.

Like I get like watching things. It's just like I feel I feel I'm like yep my heart rates getting up there. If you guys have not seen that, you got to go just look up like Halo for Global. Halo 4 Global Championship. You'll find. Yeah, the four global champs. There haven't been. Only day.

He's literally machine versus human with bestel of Ace. It was like David versus Goli. I remember. No one. I don't think anyone thought Ace was going to win any fucking. He was the fucking. He was definitely the underdog. And at the time, I think everyone watching wanted Pistol to win.

Yeah. This is when Ola is probably like 90%. The man. I wanted Aaron to win once we got there. Once the, once the euphoria of how the hell is he here wore off? I was like, dude, Aaron's really doing this shit. And Aaron was crazy. And Ola comes over and like celebrates with you, damn near.

Yeah. I mean, we're cool. We're cool. We're cool. That kind of piss me off. I mean. Like if that's me, I'm like, fuck. Yeah, I love it.

Slamming shit. I hope he's doing all right. Have y'all heard from Ola? No. The last thing I heard was the one tweet, and he actually just objectively said, and he's not doing fine. So your hope is not, your hope wasn't right.

Well, unfortunately. Yeah, he literally disappeared for like, sense getting dropped from Optic and then, like, tweeted. It was like recently. He's not doing all right. I feel that. I mean, I'm guessing. Hopefully it gets better.

I mean, when you're- guessing a bunch of people from Halo reached out to him after that. So I'm hoping. Yeah. I mean, I didn't know him. I feel like people were before. People love him in the HALA community. And it's definitely hard being as good as he was,

one of the best to ever do it. And then like you go, you just kind of go into retirement. And I'm sure he's no gap in between. Like, he's just like going. All you know is HALC. Marcus told me a few times that he had talked to him. Well,

he's been original. Regardless whatever's going on. I have to piss too. Can we take a break? Yeah. We'll be right back. Well, we got to take a break from the podcast, flycast. because we got to support those who support us.

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Back to the podcast. Should we keep going down the top 25 list? I mean, we're at three. So snake plate three, pistola four, Roe 2, 5, snipe down six, Roy seven. Would we put Snipe down over Roy in lunch? Yeah. Walshy 8 Lunchbox 9

Which I don't Like how do you put Just put them together Like what are you doing? Well, didn't lunch retire first? No Oh Lunchbox has never retired

See I don't know That's the thing Lunchbox has never announced retirement Roy retired four times I don't know if I The more you retire If anything lunchbox Loki should be higher

I mean He's a world champion now With the ring With the time This list came out They got Frosty at 10. And I don't know if I agree with that. A lot of people didn't.

Frosty literally got his first win in Halo 5. And then this game, and then this list came out just like at the end of Halo 5 or something. He has two more sons. So, I mean. I mean, now I would put him in. He's just. And then they got Ogre 1. Ogre 1 at 11.

The motherfucker retired in 2008. I don't know if you can be top 11 retiring in 2008. Well, some people are pissed and he should be way higher. I did notice that a lot of people were upset that he wasn't higher. I bet everyone's got the same amount of wins as you. And he retired in 2008. That's just how it's like, it doesn't. He somehow, and he's, I think he's been to more tournaments.

I think he's attended more events than me somehow. And I've been playing 15 years longer. Either might, either might 12, APG 13, Shotsie 14. Shotsie 14, which is just ridiculous. Shotsie, the skill is there. Trust me, he's top 14 skill. If he competed in Halo, he kept competing in Halo, he would be there.

He's just too fucking good. But for Shotsie to just be on here after playing like two seasons of Halo 5. First season of Halo 5, he didn't do shit. I mean, there would be a lot of... Second season, he started winning, third season, he started winning, whatever. There's so many things to, like, to...

You could pick apart that list so hard, Especially because like the wins that they count on there for a lot of people, like even like a couple for me in general. Like they're just so like I guess they won the tournament. But if you think about it, like they're not like in people's minds like that AGL Pittsburgh tournament you went to with Regicide and whatever. You lost a proverb there as well. It was APG snipe down proverb and someone else. and maybe I don't know who the for those but that counts as a tournament win

and it was for I mean like you said you were you were drinking 40s like and it was an winner would get like 1200 bucks or something yeah so like that for a year yeah that at all two years no shot on AGL they paid

not interest but I mean not interest Heinz 15 ace 16 I actually didn't know that are you above your brother no His brother is 12, ACE is 16. Look, I see, you know, you see people raging about where they are, bro.

I honestly do not care. You know what I mean? Like, I really do not. I mean, I'm happy to have the trophy that they made and they did it, but I really do not care. Is there ever brother beef? No. Like, he got higher than me on there. I'm like, good for him.

I hope he was higher. You know, I don't know. T squared 17, strong side 18. You know, T squared seething. Just T squared a seething. here. It's just fucking bullshit. Strongside 18.

Karma 19. Legit 20. First of all, sorry, I keep you interrupting. What's Strongside up to nowadays? Traveling Malaysia or something.

Yeah. I don't know. One of his parents passed away and he had to deal with all that. I can't remember. He's been kind of just doing stuff traveling around.

I remember saw him like in an arrows like in the Grand Canyon hiking around. He ran into an old Halo 2 player Timely's brute in the Grand Canyon. They were in the Grand Canyon. They were in the Grand Canyon. Canyon in the middle of nowhere

and they walk past each other and he went Strongside? Yeah. And he's like crazy. To be hiking on the same day, you know, somewhere so like... I used to play Halo 2 hardcore at Time Lee's Brute. Yeah. I saw him at a Halo 2 man. Yeah, like... I know Strongside was playing some poker.

I know he's in Cincinnati and that's pretty much... I know traveled around. Big 3X 21. He came into the scuff house a few times. I thought about Strongside recently. He was cool. He should like hang around last dude. Yeah, he's like a fucking surfer, happy, hippie-ish dude.

Mickwin 22. These numbers don't even matter this point. Like, that's the thing. I think Mickwin won once in like Halo 5 and that's... No, they won. Did they win a few? Two. But even still, it's like...

What? Did he win three? No, they won two. They won two. Is Matt on this list? No, because Matt has... Matt won... Matt just didn't play long enough.

He played Reach and some Halo 4. That's the thing. All his things are Halo 4 and like they're not. A lot of people don't wait them that heavily, but like for some people they do. Formal would have been like winning at anyway. And this is like before obviously like his last three. But I think four of them or Halo 4 on that list, which like he doesn't even count them or like consider. Like I know.

But like if if they're counted that heavily, formal would be on there. But for him they're probably not. Because he would have like six or seven And Ryan Nubes is 25 I know And Ryan Nubes is one or two he has two ones Ryan Nubes one One Raleigh 21 with me And he won an H2A turning

The first event when I joined EG Like I joined I left you guys remember And then the week after I left there was the first event I was on EG I got third and then we won the next like whatever Fear itself 23 Sayin 24 Lucid Motherfucker not Lusid

The reason why Luce changed his name because there was a saying there was a guy named saying he was on final boss sort of part of like the dynasty dude you gotta assert yourself like that guy's been gone so long like come on Tommy like it's my fucking name

like you're lucid he's number 24 and this motherfucker retired in like 2007 and he has 20 event ones yeah and has like 20 event ones he like retired on top though right he got drop bys for strong retired on second well then he got like top 32

with detached but I just don't understand. I think I beat him at that event. I don't understand why people retire. Why people retire when they like, like even pistola, they got like second or third or something. Then he got dropped. And then he just like stops playing.

It's like, dude, you could have like kept playing. Probably a lot of personal reasons. I got a lot of factors. I feel like Ogre won in 2008 retired. It's different back then. It's like first non- fucking win.

It's different back then, I think. Because like, people were getting older and going to college. And there was no salaries. Formal always said there's a game. outside of the game and the game is to get on a team and that takes a lot of effort and a lot of people don't like bro he's the only one he's the only one playing that game i know that i know the story's there but like when illy when illy got dropped from from the cod team i'm surprised matt didn't get on

team it was like he i feel like he was good enough to give him another cdl team he just didn't it seemed i don't know if he didn't try or you know what i mean i feel like it's different now because like with their salaries and stuff that could like go into because like buyouts yeah because it's like fuck i even if you want it can be like if you have a good if you have a good contract you don't get scammed i mean yeah you're getting paid doing nothing anyway so it's like i do i if you're getting paid well and you're going to take a big pay cut to just go get on a random team or whatever like instantly or just wait i mean i would chill i'll collect a paycheck and if the alternative is to not get one or get way less of one just to like

I don't know but I mean that I guess it's kind of a game outside of game but what are not the same game the math what are y'all gonna do when HALO's done or when you're done with Hela I'm just gonna show up to the flycass you're just what about like the I was gonna wander around these offices

and be downtown I'll be right I'll be right by like the Dirk statue and by the Dirk statue you'll see you in the Dirk statue by the I like the 6th Street Museum by the grassy knoll so like no I actually do like that

no like career no ambition to like start a business or you should just get jacked I'm working on it are you no what pros are working on it

what pros are still working for the for three for three clutch Heinz Heinz is still working that's all the matter Aries Aries CLEET

and fucking Aries. We got the, I don't know what squad that is. That's a God squad. They said, fuck it. I know Aaron is, do you think your Halo career is,

I mean, it's just with Halo Infinite, it's just so not appealing that it almost makes you think about. Almost you want to do something. It almost just like makes you think about, all right, what am I going to do after this shit?

What else is out there? Aaron, I haven't been getting, I haven't been on a team getting a salary since October last year. You know what I mean? So now what's it, what's real life looking like for you? I'm still trying to figure that out mainly, but I do my yoga stuff. And I think I'm going to be a yoga teacher and try to turn that into something more than just, you know, barely getting by with yoga salary, which is like $50 a class, you know, max.

So it's like, you know, you only have one or two a week. Less one I shop called you. It's not a lot, but I don't know, man. I'm trying to... I bet you your client... It could be big, and especially all your Halo, like, all the people that watch Halo, like, it's kind of like what we're going to going through with the flycast right now

is like we've just started getting into like running and stuff. And I think we, I get, I don't know about you, I get like 20 tweets a day that of people are just like, hey, like, you guys talk about running all the time. So race me, bro. I've been like starting to run or here's my Strava. And I bet you would be the same thing with you and be like, yeah, I'm teaching yoga now.

So you're coming across. crowd of people that are interested in the podcast or either the old crowd is growing with us. Right. Kind of type thing. Yeah, other people got out of their room and they're like, I also ran. I ran ones.

I have, getting out of the room is fun. Yeah. He and him went on a four mile run yesterday and I felt really good after. He kept up. I was surprised. I haven't been running a lot this year. I've been doing yoga and lifting and stuff,

but yeah, I want to, you know, I've been on that path, all in that journey for, for years now. You have been seriously getting into yoga. Why did you choose,

yoga because it was just Halo Halo Halo now you fucking walk around barefoot you Well first of all Walking around

Where does not connect you Start with where you're at Because I feel like you have transformed a lot from like True gamer nerd dweeb To like now this like primordial being Spiritual

Essence of a human Walking around All you do is walk around with your shirt off Once you, you know, I started like getting sun. Like, I would go on runs with my shirt off and I'm like, all right, what am I doing? Like, why wouldn't? I feel so much better getting two hours of sun every day. Like, of course, anytime I'm outside, I'm going to be shirtless trying to get more sun on my skin.

You know what I mean? I can feel the difference. And then also the same thing with barefoot. Like, you walk around without shoes, barefoot, you can, you feel like you can walk further. You feel more comfortable. It's like the massage of hitting your foot on the grass. You step on a rock or something. Well, yeah, you got to build it up.

But your feet get used to it. And then, you know, if you've looked into it, there's all these sorts of studies with grounding and how it, like, gets rid of inflammation in your body and just makes you feel better. Speaking of that. It grounds you. Like, you can be the, like, too high up in the,

in your clouds in your head, it can ground you. It can bring you back down. Did you get in, I know you've talked about it before. Did you get into, because, like, the gaming world, as we all know, when you're sucked into it, like we were. it can be very depressing because you just live your, your whole life is just like waking up in your place, sitting down at your setup.

You don't see, you don't do anything. You don't do any real human things. When I was 24, did you have like a mental breakdown one day, start crying and you're like, I have to change. It wasn't one day.

It was over years. I'm sitting there playing Halo 5, you know, like everyone screams at 9 p.m., 10 p.m. You get done screaming at 11. I was all right. When can I go to the gym?

Well, maybe I can go to the gym after I wake up at 4. 5 p.m and go to the gym from 6 to 7 eat dinner. The time we scrimmed now is fucking Yeah. It's like 5 cents. No. You guys don't do like 3 p.m. Scrimms and stuff like CDM.

Sometimes. So yeah. It's better than what it was. I was doing scrimming that at night watching Netflix all night and then like finally going to sleep. Going to sleep right as the sun peeked. I'm like, okay, this is not life.

I need to start eating healthy food or something. And like finally one day I made it outside to like 2 p.m. And like, I watched some of like, this is life. Like, oh my God, I feel way better. People see her and they just call their cops. I think someone just escaped a murder. So obviously, your circadian rhythm is important.

You know, if you're sleeping all day long, it's going to mess with you. You know, it's going to mess with your happiness for sure. So Zad, I was doing yoga also during that time. It would like bring me down. It would calm me down for scrimms. make me happier in screams. I wouldn't, you know, I'm sitting here playing the God squad, getting like 13 out every scrimm.

So like, yoga would help doing that, you know what I mean? That's your fault. I felt the same way he did during it. Yoga just, it really helps you connect with your body and, you know, your mind and your stress levels and all that. And just, you know, not only that, actually with yoga, it helped me in my own internal mind to just be able to deal with, like, life and, like, deal with my fears. You know what I mean?

Whatever they were. And I like, that was the only, like, answer I had, you know. So over time, you just improve and just become so much better version of yourself. If you are practicing, like the asana's meditation. Because a lot of people just think yoga is just, you know, walking around, stretching, like, just stretching. Like, you can go stretch, do whatever you want. But it's more like, all right, I'm going to control my breath. I'm going to control my awareness of where my body is in space.

You know, how much effort am I putting into, like, my hand reaching out? You know, how much breath control do I have? There's pranayama. It sounds in the beginning, at least. It sounds more fun than anything. Well, it's like instead of you're like focusing on that instead of just like being lost in your thoughts. Yeah. And like these negative thoughts that just pop in your head.

Instead of doing that, it's like you actually feel a little focused and you're like focused on something else and not just getting completely lost in thoughts for like an hour class or something. Right. Yeah. So you start out yoga and you're going to be thinking about what am I eating for dinner after this. Why did that person say that to me before this? What is my best person thing? When are they texting? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

And then. Who's she fucking. And then, yeah. And then you just, you learn to get in the zone during class. You're, like, you're controlling your breath the whole hour class. And then you're like, damn, I can do crazy stuff. I never thought I could do just because I can control my breath during the class, you know? And, like, you go further in your stretches.

And then all of a sudden, like, you're, you know, you just feel looser when you're walking around. You feel more eight foot tall. Somehow it's, like, connected to, like, how levels of stress in your body, like, how, uh, Um, just like how much anxiety you're feeling in like that day or that moment, you know, and then, you know, you got like an hour high after a good yoga class, you know, at least. And, you know, it takes, it's not like you can just do it every once a month and be like, all right, this is helping me. Like, you've got to stay consistent and you'll feel benefits.

But yeah, it's just so much to it. Yeah, I just want people to hear that because like, I mean, we talk about like mental health and stuff on here all the time. And knowing you as long as, we've known each other since like 2006 or something. maybe like 2005 and just like I've seen you go through hard times I mean we've seen me go through hard times and just like where you're at now

even though your halo placings aren't the best I feel like you are in a much better place than what you used to be way better and honestly I feel like I'm like if my team was serious I feel like you could be the best player not the best player I want to say but like I feel like I'm still just as good if not better you know what I mean

like that's that's compare all the things outside of the game and be like all right I haven't really had a serious serious team since since but would you blame that would you say because I felt like the season ended I saw you like go to Mexico for a few weeks I'm like dude all these motherfuckers are doing team changes like Aaron do you even like in my head like after world's last year yeah I'm like Aaron well yeah in my head in my head I'm like all making their team changes and dude none of us even have an opportunity to like get on it like at that time I didn't have an opportunity

to get on an org You know what I mean to get a salary There's right after world didn't miss anything There's right I didn't hear a word from anybody I didn't know I'm pretty sure time I just time skipped To like Christmas Yeah

I don't remember what was going on I don't think me going to Mexico or not Like would have changed me getting like an option You know of South plus like you know The people that are on these teams They're making their teams you know They're 10 years younger than me like if not more it's like it's kind of hard to like find common ground yeah they're not even same age group

snip down took my spot on the falcated boo-boo and spartan team like three years ago before infinite yeah and he didn't get along with them mainly because of an age gap i'm i'm cool with those guys and like wait if i was on that team he was on renegade he was with renegade huh it was renegade right no snipe down yeah snipe down booboo falcated no booboo wasn't on the team no snipe that renigate was on the cloud nine I'm talking about me, Boo Boo, like snit down. Yeah, which, when? It's like before Infinite when the Orrists were talking to us. I thought you're talking about middle of the season.

So if I was sleeping with Boo Boo Boo Fowl back before then, you know, I believe I would. That's my team, I would have been getting top six, top eight, like, no doubt, like, at least. You know what I mean? And also, being on that kind of team would have, it would have helped my motivation to play better. It's like, like, try harder, you know what I mean? I kind of feel what you say about, like, you feel like you, even though like Nick said your placings haven't been like, the best sort of in this game like hasn't been like the most successful thing for you like you feel you don't feel like personally like at a deficit or anything unless a player yeah no and

i say this i've said this to like three people in the last few months randomly uh i don't know why i don't know why i'm talking to people but but this game especially it feels like kind of goes back to the thing here and said where like he feels like there's just nothing you can do some spawns and I feel like this game is heavily like a product of your environment that's the only way I can put it like... Exactly, yeah.

Like, players can go from being like amazing to looking like fucking dog shit and it's not because the player's dog shit. There's 10 sandbags sandbox weapons are going against. I would say like the majority of the time it's like the vibe

and like the cohesion of the team at the time will directly reflect like the, at least for me personally, like how I'm playing, like, and how it shows up and how I feel. And it's just, this game is, I didn't feel like that in like other halos as much. It kind of just felt like on my own thing. Like, and like, if we're all shitting and all doing our, in our like own space doing things well, like that's what a team is. In this game, it's like, it's just out of your control. Like, it's in your control, obviously, as like a unit, like a team.

But you can like stat. look good if you wanted to and still lose by like 10. This game is the most irrelevant stats in any Halo. Any Halo game ever. I don't. Yeah, exactly. People talk to numbers and stats in this game. People have been talking your numbers. My numbers are always the same.

Sometimes they're a little worse. Sometimes they're a little better. I would say not. I would say people talk about your numbers more in Halo infinite than previous. Oh, maybe. I don't think people remember. In this Halo, I don't think you remember Halo 5. You're trapped.

Because you can sprint on the map, you can just be trapped by numbers and you literally do not have an opportunity to get a kill. Like you had the ball, you have to play it or like whatever. Like if you like on every team I've been on, I've been getting like 50, 60% of the ball time. If not more. So that's like literally one another player's portion of ball time plus mine. So I should, you know, I should like that person when I was getting that ball time had the opportunity to get two kills. You know what I mean? So it's like where that stat is not being reflected in 2000, how much X amount of damage. You know what I'm holding the ball? So it's like, it's. So it's like where that stat is not being reflected. And two thousand, in how much X amount of damage. You know what this? So

This game is just super weird in general where like... It's a lot of like holding and containing people. And if you're the guy containing... That doesn't have a weapon. Like, somewhere on the map, like, you're not even like doing anything. But like you are doing something. Because like you control that presence in that space while your team is like pinching them or something. And like you might not even get anything out of it.

Right. But if you don't do that, they fully, they get like... They would push the other way. And then like you're getting spawn killed. And then you're still not getting anything out of that. actually. Do you think you still got it? You coming back for the top spot? Yeah, maybe I guess. I mean, the tournaments happen and then whatever happens happens. So it's used Spartan. Booboo Fowl. Yeah, I like that team. Yeah. No, I think I like boo-boo and Fow. I think Falkade is fucking, I feel like he should have been placing good.

No, I mean like even the last couple events like been whatever, but I don't really blame myself or anybody like individually because I said this to collect because we like, because I think collects insane. like how good he is and we got like top eight or whatever it was like me spartan nick king nick and collect we got like top eight at charlote whatever we honestly did that's kind of like like i expected us to get like that or like top six or something but like we dude i don't know apparently we lost game five against native white we're up like 4639 i guess and then it said we lost i don't know i thought it was over but at least you went up five well they well yeah like way I actually watched that out of streets I actually that we're 4639 and I changed my thing to lethal three two because I was like we won and then we lost I had to change it back but I saw that game now

the native way but then they got top four so like I said to Nick I was like dude we really should have won that native white series and if we would have got tough four to this I said this we would have got the worst top four replacing of all top four teams like ever like no one's ever got fourth with just like a just shittier team just with how we were leading up to the event like we're just like so fucking average and just to think we're that close like getting fourth like aloki like lost respect for fourth place placings I was like that shit was bad really because I would out to your team like every time I I play collect I'm like dude this guy's yeah well I told like I told him he was the first person I said about the product of the environment I was like

we're just making a change because we're like we're shitty and like I mean like every like we're just like pretty average like as a team we all knew it and we just like made a change randomly for suspector didn't work but i mean is either we'd be average or we'd be average so i mean we just made a change so do you blame anything do you blame the environment or the game or anything oh the game in three four three is the yeah on the like breakup of the dynasty or oh no that's not the game and shit that's just that's just what they wanted to do i don't know i don't really think about them i don't they don't occupy any space in my head yeah maybe there's nothing actually in my head.

But maybe my last question, I'm gonna make it a good one. That's just, was, was Monsker cheating? Wait, wait, okay.

I like, we actually never talked about this, but I heard Matt say something like, no, this guy might be fucking cheating. But I don't know who he was talking about. Chance. He was talking about Monster.

I don't know who. Here's the thing. Like, what, the HQ you heard of him? Yeah, yeah, the HQ.

And they were, they were talking about someone. Yeah, because they're getting body by scour. I think one before. That's to find the actual verb cheating. Was he walling? Or cheated before?

Like no, in the game. Like one time or two times, three times. You know what I mean? Here's the thing. He cheated before in H1Z1. Yeah, no, that. He cheated. One, he won a H1Z1 tournament on land.

He's fucking good. Two, I know why he cheated like. I know why he cheated. I think he cheated in a pub while he was like playing with a girl. I was this guy. He cheated to impress a girl in H1. and I'll never forget that.

It's not like he was, it's not like he was known. It's like it's not like people knew his Twitter. I was supposed to do H1Z1 because those people who would speak in Chinese and wear the red shirts and they would just team up in the solos. Yeah, dude, they would, yeah.

You can't hang after a while. They would kill me some nights and I'd just be like, like, what's the website? I'd literally Google just like, best H1Z1 AMAX. And I'm just like hovering over it. I have the zip flowing on, I'm trying to unzip it.

So yeah, he has. admitted to doing that, but it was like, it's just pubs. Like, Halo was sort of done at that moment. Can you give me the full story? It was just one online event where, you know, people suspected him like three or four months into the game and like a random ooping like online event where like they randomly and it wasn't like a top 16 team.

It was like this whole, all the qualifiers leading up. Every online event. This is just, it's just like a second, a third, a top of four, top six. And these were with three different teams.

He joins random teams. Like not high tier teams, but like okay teams. They just overperform like crazy. And then he's off the team randomly. And then gets on another team and they're like, then they get top two. And it's like, what's going on here? Is he the go? Is he the go?

Like, is he number one? But then we get, internet is just insane. But then we get to events. Here's the thing. There's too often. He's either blatantly cheating and doesn't care. And then he, because he knew that three, four, three isn't going to do anything.

So shout out to that if that was what he did. Or he's just like, and you know chance. He's just like... He's a headcase. And he's like... He definitely gets anxious. I mean, who the hell doesn't? But like he...

He's just like a... He's a nervous guy. Yeah. He's not like an anxiety and I kind of disorder. And all I'm gonna say is like... And all I'm gonna say is like he definitely like... That happens to him in general. It happens to him like his whole halo career.

Just like you can tell like he gets like a little amped up, like overheat so I got tournaments. But like if you add into the fact that everybody's watching you and like thinks you're cheating, so like everyone's going to be paying attention to you on top of that like you're at the scoreboard you're four and nine you're like fuck I'm make five and the games like not even happen you're even more checked out no people are talking you're peaking and then that's happening and like your heart rate's 300 yeah yeah you're gonna make some shitty plays yeah so we don't think he's cheating and and I'm 50 50 he could or he's just I think he nervous track and got super anxious and it sucks for him I think he probably cheated that first event and maybe one other time in the next six months after that but like

In the last six months, there's no way. I don't think he cheated. I don't think. How don't think he'd be stupid enough to cheat after everyone's already calling you a cheater? You know what I'd cheat? But you could have cheated before that. At that point, at that point it's like, it's like, you thought that was cheating? I'll show you cheating.

I'm getting taught too with my high school friends. Like I've just, even in like Halo 3 2020, sometimes like I'm playing matchmaking with him. Like, Skir can like go off, but then it's like we get into Queen 8. And he's just weird. And like we put up money and like him and the queen or bent like $100. And she's just fucking running his pockets. And I purposely like want one of the other team besides him just because I, I'll bet anything.

It's just so funny to me like trying to just like piss on him. And even just like. He lets it happen. In tournaments like or like I don't know. It'd be the best of five and money eight. And it's just like he would just sometimes just shit the sheet to him. I don't think he's just, I don't think he's cheating. I really want him to prove himself because like a lot of us love chance.

Like his personality is funny. Yeah. Like it's funny. It's funny to like hang out with. And he's like objectively like good like and can be good at the game. Yeah. Because he's randomly done it. But like at the same time he's also shown.

And it's like he'll turn the stream on. And it's just like he he'll he tries so hard, I think, to act like he doesn't care. It's like everyone just bound in his chat talking shit. And it's just I know he's playing worse because of that. No, you can tell like he. Because I've played. I've played worse when people are watching at times. You can't act like you don't care.

Yeah. And like it gets, yeah. He's a very passionate, anxious guy. Hysteria said it too. It's like some people can play amazing in their room some days and then show up with everybody else around you and watching.

And then you're just in your head. You're in your head and you literally can't even kill anybody. Can't think. So you can't play. I mean, there was just always people like that. So you can't win. So you can't play. I remember like Halo 4,

aptitude, shit on us for like a week in scrims. And then we go to like that Pittsburgh event. Hammered. Three, oh, and it's just like super easy. And it's just like,

dude, like, where do these, where do some of these players go? There's just always been some of those players. But I don't know. I'm rooting for you, scur.

I don't know for them too. I don't know if you'll see this, but don't hack though. I'm not rude for you if you hack. I don't think he's hagg at this point. It's a hell infinite. Whatever. It's Halo.

They're not going to get you. It's like, it's like, I feel like the only, he, when I found out he hacked it or cheated in a pub in H1, I was like, damn it. And then he was like, I found out he did it to impress a girl and I was like, tell you. All right. Makes sense. Respect. Respect. As a guy, like, that kind of trumps a game.

Like, damn. He wanted it. I get it. I wouldn't ever take steroids unless like I knew a girl. At least he didn't cheat. I wouldn't take steroids for other dudes. Leasing a competitive for money situation to where, like, these other cod kids, you know what I mean? Yeah, he won't.

Cod kids are, those people just cheat and they're just like, yeah. Later. No, the Cod guys don't, like, the Cod League play, they don't, they have no shame. They don't care. And they'll, like, they'll kill someone and be like, shit on. Like, literally seeing him coming across the wall. Every time you see a person get exposed on the timeline for cheating, like, you check their bio and it's some shit like, no ego, stay humble. It's like.

It's like, I hope you don't have one. You're blatantly. There was some, like, some Halo player just got exposed when he was like, he was AFK. Yeah, skulls. Sculls. Yeah. And he was getting, he was getting amosite, like full tracking amosyses from, from small door to elbow on live fire.

Like he was AFK. And then people are elbow, like, where his crosser would be. And it's just fully tracking him. And then like, you go in his bio, it's like proud father, man of God. And it's just like, proud father, man of God. And it's just like, proud father, man of God. blatant fucking cheating. It's just so gamers.

If you were broke, maybe you could cheat. You know what I mean? But I mean, you had to survive. Yeah, but if you're broke and you're winning matchmaking. Why am I on Halo? Why am I playing Halo Infinite? If I'm broke and playing Hill Infant don't message me.

I'm not doing well. I play the next open off stream and cheat. I want to, no. I want to, I want to make you guys his opinion. Whenever the Halo BR comes out, not going all right so we're talking hypotheticals

who is who who who's going to take off from the halo community who's gonna whoever I argue with nor do with Nick we need another Nick Nick's fine I just don't need my arguments

I don't know if I got you don't have the passion to like be good imagine shots he just yeah but you don't have you don't have to be that good you just have cheat like and don't have OBSC I think see I think Monsker could blow up in a BR.

Probably. He loves B.R. I know. I don't sit there and grind it. I don't know. Whoever, whoever's in the right headspace at the time will blow up. Whoever cares. Which not many people fucking care anymore.

Not even that. Because like, I can't explain it. I always say I don't care in response to like everything, but like, I don't not care. You just don't care. I care.

Your king act like I don't care, but you care. Well, I care. But I don't care. I wonder what his private thoughts conversations are with a with a van. He's probably nothing. He's like cradling you. He's just like he's just like he's a crazy one. He's like in 2009, if I would have hit one more.

BXR shot back. No, she just. I can't remember a lot of weird shit like that randomly, but I don't know. I tell her I don't want to talk about Halo. She like she'll randomly start talking about HALA. I go, I don't speak about that game. I don't speak Halo. Yeah, I don't.

I've moved on from that point in my life. What are your plans? As I'm just going, as I'm driving to the office to scrim, like, you, you spoke about it with Ninja and other people in those arguments and then you stopped. Snit down to ninja. That was your. You got so much backlash. Well, I said what I needed to. All your passion died.

You guys are fucking stupid. In Halo 4 lobbies, all your passion died. Dude. Bring back Halo 4. When did your passion die? I never had it. Name a second in my life, but you can remember. I'm always, I've always been, that might have been the most passionate thing I've said.

He's saying I've never been. You're so passionate about not being passionate. Yeah, I'm not fucking passionate. I have one, I have one story that I want to hear from you guys because it includes all of you. And Nick's told this to me a couple times. I want to hear the Coldstone story from both of you guys's perspective. I didn't go. I'm just the one that made them go.

I want to hear Ace's perspective of going to Coldstone because Nick, do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, put him in retirement. Nick blames his basically entire Halo career on one Coldstone creamery in Stone, not Stonebrier. I don't think. I think it was, um, no, Stonebriars here. I forget.

It was in that mall, it was in that Mapeer or whatever. Woodfield, yeah. Woodfield, yeah. We just got tempted by the ice cream, like most of our game. Halo 5. No, Halo 5 starts off. Halo 5 starts off. We have some shit teams, not doing good.

Eventually, we form a team. What was it, me? I think Flamesword retires and we get like knated. And we're like, dude, this guy's fucking nasty. This straight six pretty good too. We formed me, Ace, Naded and Straight Sick. Y'all are beating everyone in Scrums. Yeah, we were beating everyone.

But we haven't played them yet. They were the best. And they were the best team. It was like 30. Every team was getting 13-0, like 12-1. Do you remember the- If we're bored, it's 11-2? Do you remember the article that came out?

There was an article that came out right before you guys had even played that was the top 10. From the Dexerto? It was a top 10 Halo teams in the game. It was like a power ranking. It was CLG first and then Optic second. Even though you guys had it played a game. Y'all hadn't qualified for us. You haven't played a turn.

I mean, we were just winning and sprims in L-N-N-N-X. I mean, the only thing you'd go off was online. because there was like a couple months like of a gap like because it was like worlds and the next land wasn't until well there was that qualification land they did like the at packs to stay together it was like three months

did we go to an event together no remember because the cold stone thing happened so yeah and then guys didn't make it that we set up a scrim with them and then this was just a normal day for us I didn't realize it was this big fucking thing yeah right bullshit no like no no no we knew that you guys woke up that morning

Snake bite, I know snake fight. Well, I've asked him. No, once we got to that point, yeah, but like, when we scheduled it, it was just scheduled. And like, like, apparently in the week or two leading it up to that, like they had beat everybody. And they did. I mean, fuck. Put them in the dirt. Formal was in Nick's room saying don't play them.

Play everyone else. He said there's a third game. And there's a game inside of the game. There's a third game inside of the game. And once you beat the second. you get on a team, you don't play the third game. You just don't play the third one. He was right.

And then, so yeah, we... It blew up into this whole, like, it was literally a paper view. It was. It turned into a paper view. Like, I don't think we scrims. It's the most hype Halo Scrim series. For no fucking reason. For no reason.

I've ever seen. For literally no reason. So the scrim probably wasn't until like seven or eight or something. And like, we're bored during the day. The prelims just happened. We wake up, we go to the mall for some fucking reason. And then, like, guys, we're leaving the mall. we see a cold stone.

We're like, damn, that'll be, that'd be fucking good. Snake bites working back there. We're like, we don't, like, we don't really want to chalk ourselves.

What's lax in there? Like, we don't really want to chalk ourselves, but if I could get some ice cream. It's not going to chalk. Like, we were just like, we're on cloud nine.

Like, we're just, we're just feeling good. Get our ice cream. Like, what did you order that? That's going to chalking. I mean,

it's just like a big cup like that, just fill. It's just ice cream. But, so we eat it. And then, It's over from there. And then I'm just like, I don't really feel that good.

Like, this was not, this probably wasn't a good idea. Was it just you too? I think it was Aaron as well. I knew you were there, but we're just us too, yeah. But were you feeling bad with your stomach? So something was. You ever ate four, like four big scoops of ice cream? Ice cream, you guys eat?

You just are back on top of food. On top of like eating normal food too. Like, I don't know. It's not really good recipe to go play. I'm in Australia. Not feeling good. And then it starts off. and we're just we can't get nothing going getting fuck one oh two oh three oh four oh and at this time

we're like this is fucking like i'm not playing it's not a single game was competitive 50607 oh i'm like they're gonna try they're trying so hard to just like 12 o us or whatever the fuck it is right now i and i think that that that's what happened i was like you're a psycho and he was like no i i knew going into that series that i would not be happy with anything other than 13 oh to get a grip you need help get a grip But at the same time, like, in the moment, I bet I was like, yeah, let's pound them. Yeah. Because like, not at their expense, but like, you know, you know who's expense.

But after that, scrim and Twitch, like, y'all are shit talking to us. I'm just existing. And they're just like, green wall book. Yeah. It's just like, guys, we're just. I'm just chilling. And now I'm going to not be chilling because I'm going to pummel them. I'm in Australia at the time.

And so Matt and I are always talking about it. And then Matt checks his phone and goes, dude. And I was like, what was the series? Because we were ready for it. And he goes, dude, they lost 13-0. I was like, damn it. Bro, and ever sent, and like after that, we'd be like, dude, shouldnate that fucking Coldstone.

And then it became like a meme. But like, low-key. And then that might have been a thing. It might have been really. I don't see how. They defend it to this day. That ruined. Aaron does.

Nick does. I mean, cold stern or not, just that scrim alone. getting thrash like that ruined our team because we had retired like two days later he didn't retire two days later because we had multiple oh we had multiple weeks of bad scrims and bad like made the next paper me and we and native started hating each other we had some bad texts back and and forth nick showed me a clip of native calling out and he was going top blue one to one shot one top yeah and it was just like like like even like i remember going to a tournament and made me and needed like not being on the best terms.

Like, he texts me one time. He was like, I'm gonna be honest. I just don't think you're that good. And I'm like, and I, this is last week. This is last week. He just ran out of the text. And it was like fair.

Like, I felt like there was a while I could not go positive in a scrim. Like the game just felt hard. Yeah. And it was just like, we started losing every scrim. No one's giving their full. Natives getting tilted. Yeah. Like he's a bunch of,

no environment. Oh me. All right. Yeah. And I'm just like, and I'm just like, dude, this. is like, Nick said,

I'm like, I fucking, then we like get to the event. I'm going like, 11 and 9 and we're losing. And I'm just like, I fucking knew it. In my head,

I'm like, fucking, of course. You're just like, yeah, let me down at the fucking turn. After game one, he goes 11 and 9.

Nate goes 10 and 11. And it goes, I'm not going to lie. I don't think you're that fucking good. In my head, I'm just like, I fucking hate this fucking team. If I'm not good,

what are you, huh? But native would be randomly amazing. But then like, once we lost that scrim, it was just downhill for the entire squad. Never recovered.

Watching you guys play before that scrim, it was like insane. Nated and straight-tick were both incredible. Yeah. Product of your environment. That's what I'm saying. Moral and momentum goes a long way, you know? Even if you're just like watching your teammate on death cam

and you're like, this kid sucks. Or like he's scaring it. You know what I mean? That's Heron's feeling. I don't do that. I don't do that. I'm just saying like, if you're out of the court. He's watching this right now?

I never I never did that I exaggerated but like if you're just like you know you're tilting then like someone else is tilting you're giving bad callouts like it just creates a snowball effect

and then you start losing like no one's playing actually I mean it was like that's why scrims are online have been so like hit or miss in terms of practice certain teams just work well with like

when it was me cloud demon D and then we had clutch who it's like people didn't see him is that good but it was like for some reason when he's just when he was with us three and like I get a double kill and he's like nice Nick like it just makes me like

like that was the equivalent of him getting a triple kill yeah like that's how much it's like it helped you guys yeah for some reason him being on the team made me play better like everyone just felt more comfortable he was good at communicating like you're gonna hit it that's why like the personalities on a team matter you know what I mean like some of this I'm not gonna I feel like some people in Halo haven't like played a sport you know what I mean and like don't know know how to function on a team so like it besides It's a sport. You know what I mean? So like that kind of camaraderie and everything on a team matters. You know, and just like the chemistry of how people are, how they talk outside of it. If they even were to communicate if we're in the same room outside of the game. You know what I mean? Like that kind of stuff matters and putting a team together. You know what I mean? Like snakebite real two wouldn't be the same if they weren't within two years of age. You know what I mean? Like they probably wouldn't have lasted that long in terms of like being that, you know, like it all matters. Like I don't necessarily look at this optic team like they're the best. but it's like inside of game and outside of game,

they're like really good friends. Their chemistry is really good. They don't argue. I think they all just have like really high Halo IQs. So it's not necessarily their skill. They're going to tilt, but it's not going to break them. You know what I mean?

They obviously tilt, but it's not going to break it. It's like a deeper level. It's like, I don't know. It's like the difference between like if you're sad or you're depressed. Like there's like, right. One is like an emotion and one is like a whole other thing. You're not coming back in the series or whatever.

Like even like there's going to be like random times like that where like shit doesn't go well. But like that's just surface level thing. Like if it's not deeper than that like like fuck you know how many times in six years my team had some shit like surface level or whatever like but it was irrelevant. But like until it wasn't when Ace was teaming with those girls for a little bit. Bro, Miss LaCarr was your guys hard care. I mean I would hear how. is communicating, I'm like, ace is fucking bad. Yeah.

Like, but not. Yeah. No, I feel that. But like, but like, but like, but like, but it's not, it's not, it's not that like you're bad. You were not being the same ace that could be, that would be like playing to try to win. I also were just a new that we had a cap of like top 24. Exactly. Exactly.

No matter how good I play. So you're a top 24 player, not ace. You're just. Yeah, you aren't, you just, you're whatever your gamer tech would be if you're top 24 players. Because of your, like, because of your, like, because. Because of what you knew your team was, like, you just weren't. It's fine. It's not your fault because, like, you literally can't change that. I mean.

But it was like your environment made you not the ace that everyone did. Your environment definitely matters. Yes. I think this game is like 90% environment. I'm not even going to fucking lie. Like, at a point, like, if you're just not good enough and you don't know what the fuck's going on, you're just not good enough. But, dude, there's so many times you spawn and you just can't do it.

You have a B.R. They have, like, a snipe and freaking sword and shotgun and stalker rifle. like okay. Like this game is oppressive. That's how I put it. Like it can be very oppressive. Like right now it's SSG phase and optic. It sort of just seems like they're on another level.

But I'm waiting for someone to form the right team. Quadrant. Yeah. And I think Quadrant was a good example of like I bet they, well, something about them just works. This is what I mean like about someone to just like getting the top three and upset. In this game are super weird and like irrelevant because there was a stat that came out.

There's a stat to disprove the stats actually. So there's one stat. that matters. There's a stat that proves that this step proved that stats are fucking irrelevant. So it was like players that improved like all the players that improved like their KDs and like or K80s like from tournament to tournament and all four players from quadrant were like the top four players improved KDs and it's not because they just fucking got like they like individually or like their team is better. They are playing better. They're doing better. Everybody is doing better. Like everybody is doing better. Like they're Their stats are better because they are better as a team. They're not better because this guy stopped fucking sucking. Like, I don't know. That makes sense. And it's like, it was a big difference.

Dude, yeah. The play styles of the... If you're not going to, if you're not winning and rolling, like, you're not... You need similar play styles on a team. Like, people doing same stuff. I think this game is the most important in-game thing. And then out-of-game, it's like... I don't know.

It's just kind of like environment. vibes and shit weirdly which I would never say that in any other halo yeah it's more about pacing than it is about I mean it's so much about pacing it's like the map and how quick you can get to places after a kill with the sandbox on the map just pretty much automatically

gets you kills you know what I mean it's just so snowbally it's just who's y'all's top three in this game no one the game's fucking basic it's all environment not no one but like you're not going to say you're not going to say lucid monster you're not going to say

Like a... You're not gonna say like a lucid, renegade, frosty. Like, lucid, royal two, formal. I feel like people are... Put them top three, right? No. Lucid, renegade, frosty? Is there someone you think's really good that, like, people aren't really...

I mean, the people... Because everyone talks about lucid, renegade. People think they're really good, but, like, I don't know, like, what people's, like, top three would be. Like, I mean, fuck. Like, I think, like, eco is fucking... really i mean yeah i mean he's just fucking good like everything he does like it's not he's not doing the shit he's not doing the shit that bound and renegator doing but like not at all he doesn't need he doesn't need to because he's standing there like with his br already like doing something else

completely that's like just as good i don't know if i've like not seen enough eco p ov but like i just don't just go watch him i don't see him as like that's skilled but he all all i'll say is it's like, he would have been good. And like he consistently does. Like he's just, he's not stupid. Like that's the,

that's the key. That's the one guy who's not stupid. Not everybody can like get the sniper. Just go watch the last game. Like, SSG versus Optic winner's finals. Like the shit that he did to win that game was just like, and that was like his highlight play of his.

And it was still like not even in the top 10 plays that they released. Yeah. And it was literally just him like perfect, perfect like awareness. like jiggle peeking lucid and like the way he jiggled like he was one shot like he literally could have got shot with he goes really could have got shot with

he goes like the me that figured it the fuck out see when you were playing you said you wanted to be royal too though and that is how you knew he didn't have it figured out yeah exactly if you want to be royal too you can't just be royal if he wants to be royal too like you got a you got a harder road in front of you because you need three teammates now and if you're going to be royal too like

Like, you gotta find three people that are gonna do the other shit. I shouldn't have tried to be Royal II. No. Like, Matt's Gooden does everything, but like, that's a weird, like, you can't start with having a Royal Two. Like, you can't just be, have a Royal Two and be like, this is what we'll work around here. You gotta, like, you gotta have all the other parts there.

Aaron, who's your, who do you like? Who's your favorite Halo Infinite? Who's my favorite Halo Pro? Um, uh, me. I mean, lucid with power weapons, I would say,

is the best. Without fucking terrible, but with them, pretty good. No, no. I forgot, I forgot those are weird fucking.

I think Stella, I think Stella, I think Stella overall is good enough of it. You know what I'm saying. There's no beef with me. I'm saying at the beginning of the year. Oh, you got to be beef with Lucid?

Well, that was when, that was when Olo was on it. If I have beef with anyone, I forfeit, they can take a one. Well, surprise.

Lucid is actually. We brought out Speaking of him We have a special guest And he's been saying words about you Start fighting No At the beginning

Well that's because There was like some pistola beat Yeah it was old I don't have a single good memory About this game I'm not going to want Snake bites got beef Snake bite

Let's get snake bite on Let's get PJ on He would fucking I would love If people want to see Another Halo sort of addition Which

That's a difference You don't have to want to, it just might happen. I don't have to watch you because you're going to watch it anyway. The Flycast Halo episodes are kind of like the Joe Rogan MMA episodes where it's like a lot of people are just like, Loki the good ones. But everyone's just like, people that love that they love that shit. But like I only watch him to watch alien shit.

Yeah. So like I don't care who's beating up someone. Final words, Aaron. I'm just going to say like the whole like look at Snipe down on team with boo boo boo and Fall and bound like all they are good on paper but they were not. They were yeah. Like products of their environment. products of the chemistry products of like who has power weapons it's like this game is so like

being on the same even like speaking from my experience this game like with with my fucking team from last year like there's a lot of weird shit going on like just out of like it like it wasn't the same right out of game wasn't the same god squad that you were right of like out of game the same the names are the same i mean we were like fine we were good but like it was just different like there's some shit different like out of game yeah yeah i mean it was just it was kind of weird The environment wasn't the... Oh, it's fucking

pig shit, yeah. Did not like it. Did not enjoy it. Why do you think that was? I'm not going to get into that year. That's for the paid episode. But it's just like... It's for the paid episode on Patreon.

Patreon or float plane. But it just like kind of proves like something like that will just like completely... Yeah. Like for example, my team environment, all of Infinite was... I mean, I'll take responsibility for some of it, but like some of it is just,

out of your control. You know what I mean? Like you just cannot. It's like getting for people to like get along. You have to commit to like the same thing and like buy into it. Yeah, you got to buy into like a system and like work together and like talk to you. You know what I mean? Like if you don't have that then you're just kind of like imagine like street basketball. Like this guy. I feel like this guy is less like you just play you play halo like you can just play halo and more of like like a whole like thing like a whole like playbook and fucking like you got to like commit the same system and do the same like

it's weird. also not fun that's what we've learned I don't know I don't take I don't like blame anybody else for like all the shit like last year like I'm not saying like I'm perfect or anything but like and I don't know

I always take equal blame for every situation I always take 25% of blame if it's four people so but it's evenly distributed 25 25 even if it's not no even if it's not even if it's not all right all right that was episode

episode 80 of the flycasts with the three best Halo players of all time. We're looking for one. Nick is here. Yep. So yeah, we'll be, the four of us will be teaming at the next Dallas, uh,

minor. Because we got good chemistry. You guys just have to show. You guys have to teach me the maps. This environment, we look at it would be, we would actually be pretty good. All right,

guys, thanks so much for watching. We'll see you in the next one. Oh, wait, this is sponsored by corduroys and center. And hopefully in the next one, it will be sponsored by Coldstone Creamery. No, never.

They're going to reach out. Hey, cease and desist. Don't ever slander our name again. We don't put laxatives in our ice cream, actually. Done, right?