The Flycast - Is CoD Champs Happening? Flycast Album Club | The Flycast Ep. 38

Episode Date: August 10, 2021

Is CoD Champs Happening? Flycast Album Club | The Flycast Ep. 38 ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Uh, energy, energy. Blu-Bloop-Bloop. Bap-b-de-bop-bop-b-b-b-b-r-r-up. Back to another episode of the Flycast. Oh, it's just a beautiful day. Weekly. This is a good day. How did you like the Boston album?
Starting point is 00:00:40 I don't know if we should start out like that all the time, but there's episode something. And I'm just looking at this, the last time we did it, uh, we've. What is it, Flycast album club? Someone said, is that what we called it? Yeah, the Album Club. The Flycast Album Club. It was good. The Boston album was really good.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I'm glad. So I hope. Wait, what is it? It's Stay by Kid Leroy, Leroy, and Justin Bieber. On this new album? Yeah. Dude, Twitter always comes in. Just responded in five seconds.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Five seconds. I knew I knew Twitter would be would get it. Um, yeah, the Boston album was fucking great. And I feel like I've heard all of those songs before, but just not like in order. Yeah, yeah. That's an amazing album. What year was that album made? 1976.
Starting point is 00:01:41 What? Yeah. 1970s. That's crazy to think about in 1976. People were like, I guess. Alive. Alive. And like making good.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Like people were smart enough back then to like make. Good album. It's crazy because, like, nowadays, it's like all plugins and different things and everything. Everything you have is, like, available. You can download pretty much everything. The shit with, like, to get their sound, they would buy guitar pedals and, like, take them apart and, like, reconnect wires and, like, change the distortion of certain things and, like, put it, you know, add different pedals together and, like, find their own sounds that way. Like, they were doing, like, handyman work. If you find a producer from like back then and look at their like studio,
Starting point is 00:02:29 just machines, keyboards, pianos, like literally a spaceship. Yeah. Nowadays it's literally just a PC. Yeah. My album, should I say it now? Yeah, yeah. My album and I hope people aren't disappointed with this.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And I hope you're not disappointed with this. But I'm going to go with Eminem Infinite. Just because I feel like a lot. of people listening. It's going to be hard to find it. You're not on. It's not on Spotify. Really? Only Infinite is on Spotify. Because he remastered it. What do you mean only Infinite?
Starting point is 00:03:03 Oh, just the one song. Just the song. All right. If y'all go on YouTube, you can find Infinite. Yeah. The Eminem album. It is insane. Because when people, a lot of our listeners, followers, whatever, they, everyone's an Eminem fucking, everyone likes Eminem.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Dude, it is. And they talk about the Slim, Slim, Slim, 80 LP and the, of course, Marshall Mathers LP. But people, no one talks about that. No one talks about infant. His first album, Infinite. He doesn't like Infinite. Really? Yeah, he said, in one of those, in one of those, um, documentaries, he was like, yeah, I was just handing out my tape. It was like my bullshit ass first tape. And I was handing it out
Starting point is 00:03:42 to people. And I was like, I hope he's not talking about it. Dude, what? Because that shit is crazy. Yeah. Like his rhyme scheme, he's like a master at putting words together. Yeah. My pen and paper calls a chain reaction and get your brain relax. And, I'm a brainiac, a maniac in action. Like, you mainly lack attraction. You look insanely whack sun. You're just a son. You're on a fraction of my tracks runs.
Starting point is 00:04:04 It's like, my rhyming skills got you climbing hills. Yeah. It's just, it's constant rhyming. That was Eminem before he, that was him just like rapping. Dude, just like dude. Before he got into like the. That's why it's crazy. It's crazy to think like what, who he was inspired.
Starting point is 00:04:23 by because he always talks about how he was he's like like a home body whenever he talks about that so he's like I was inspired by proof but like I never proof was in D12 right yeah because I never like I never listened to that that I listened to a little bit of proof and I never listened to all the stuff like he he was inspired by like naughty by nature and like that it was like the early stages if if I'm probably gonna offend a lot of people but like the early stages of like lyrical almost backpack-ish rap because when I when I was talking to Hex about it I was like I was like did you ever listen to like not because I was trying to get into like 90s rap so did you ever listen to like naughty by nature and he was like no I don't even listen to G shit and I was like okay but
Starting point is 00:05:06 but isn't naughty by nature like I'm honestly not that familiar with them like treaching but it's funny it's funny hex says that because who does who's is a sap rock they're like his favorite that's like the ultimate backpack that's like the ultimate backpack is like it's Like the final boss. Yeah. It's so weird. I was thinking about it today. And I was like, I wonder what the, I wonder what hex is.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Because Hex is so like arrogant about his, about what he listens to. He's like, nah, I only listen to real shit. I was thinking about it. What is, what do you think is the last time Hex listened to a new song? Like a song came out and he was like, I like that shit. Or like a new album. Right. Has he ever been excited?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Ever since I've known Hex, he's never been excited for. an album or new music. You don't really hear him talk about. No. He's listened to the same Wu-Tang album for 30 years. And he still loves that shit. He's stuck in his ways. Like every time I get in the car with him, he's playing ASAP rock.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah, A-Sap Rock or Wutang. Do you like him? A-sap rock? I respect him. Yeah. But like... It's kind of like new M&M. It's like I understand how hard it is.
Starting point is 00:06:19 That's got to be very difficult. But it's hard to listen to. You hear Eminem on Nas' album? Yeah. Still good. It's fucking good. But it's like, I miss shady.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah. We all do. I think we all do. It's like that whole fucking, hi, my name is like none of that. That hasn't. You know,
Starting point is 00:06:42 there was a documentary. I feel like I might have told you this before, but Dr. Dr. Dr. put on the beat. Yes. And the first thing he did.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And then the first thing Eminem said was, hi, my name is. And Dr. Dave was like, what the fuck? Like this guy's different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Dude, hooks are like the hardest part. That's, what's crazy is Eminem was, it's like, he was like signed to Dr. Dre, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:03 That's fucking weird. Like, how was Eminem signed to anyone? Yeah. Like, shouldn't people just be, like everyone's like that though. Wayne was signed to Birdman.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Dude. Bro. Now that we're not on the Optic podcast, I have to,
Starting point is 00:07:24 I have to show you. Have you ever, have you heard the KSI Lowell Wayne song yet? Listen to Lowell Wayne's, uh, someone said lowell Wayne's verse was like his rock and rolly type.
Starting point is 00:07:37 He rap, I mean, it's rap. It's, I mean, he raps, but he does sing the hook. That's why it's,
Starting point is 00:07:44 it's like his rock style hook, but he wraps the verse. What if we, when stuff gets demonetized on YouTube, is it muted? No. Or like, so we could just like not be monetized. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And we could just like play. I'm playing. That's what I'm doing. That could be like some pretty good video ideas. I'm like, play some of your like favorite stuff. I'm down. The,
Starting point is 00:08:07 uh, that's what I'm doing on my vlogs. I'm not monetizing. I know it. I put the Drake's. Yeah. What was the Drake song? You can take me now.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah. Yeah. Now I heard that and I was like, it's just like, it's not, but it makes the vlog so. Yeah. Like, it's just nice.
Starting point is 00:08:26 It's different. Yeah. The, I'm not my entire, that entire channel hasn't been uploaded in so long that the whole thing is to monetize. I'd have to set it all back up. What? What? Because my, I was with like a, what is it when you like went through it?
Starting point is 00:08:41 You had to go through like a third party at when YouTube first started to get monetized. What if those called? I don't know. Those like companies. I think I was signed with like MLG or something. Yeah. You were, y'all were with MLG. I don't remember the last.
Starting point is 00:08:54 time I got paid from YouTube. Y'all were with MLG. I was with broadband. Some people were, I was with curse at one point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember the last time I got paid from YouTube.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I don't even think those things happen anymore. I think it's all through YouTube, through adsense. Like Google AdSense? Yeah. Because I just made a Maniac Play's channel. And I got, I saw I got paid through that.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And I was like, wait, when's the last time I got paid from fucking YouTube on my main channel? Right. And I think I'm signed to MLG. Oh, Which is like a good Um US
Starting point is 00:09:27 CPMs Yeah Whatever it's good But like I don't remember last time I got fucking paid It's like this MLG Like am I ever gonna see this money I guess we'll find out
Starting point is 00:09:38 What was last to be uploaded Well my main channel Um Just like these Flycasts and Oh yeah yeah I forgot I totally forgot the Flycast goes on that channel
Starting point is 00:09:50 It's really about it I think I uploaded one vlog since the since the hab yeah vlogging kind of you're getting back into vlogging yeah
Starting point is 00:10:03 for me it's like it's like vlogging's I don't I don't know how people daily vlog the daily vlog thing is I think that shit's over it's like whenever you I guess have something worth vlogging that was a crazy wave
Starting point is 00:10:17 if you did I think that wave has come and gone yeah it's more of like now it's like a podcast wave I mean, as we're doing this, but it's like everyone has a podcast. Every stand-up comedian in the world has a podcast. What's the next wave going to be? Because right now the wave is podcasting.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah. I don't know. But at least we did this shit before it got. Before it was huge. We've been doing this. Even though all these people who just started their podcast this year have more episodes in us, we've been doing this shit for like four years or something. Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Joe Rogan did like 300 episodes that got zero views. views, like no views. Yeah. Who's doing them on live, live streams for like 40 people. It's crazy when he mentions he's been doing it for so long. And he's talking like, uh, 2012. Yeah, what? 2012.
Starting point is 00:11:07 You were podcasting in 2012 just for the fuck of it. Like he had no like social media. Like, you know, Joe Rogan, the Fear Factor guy. Yeah, the Fear Factor guy is what people knew him as. And he was just doing podcasts. Oh, shit is. And he still had all these like really great. sort of like big friends
Starting point is 00:11:24 like all this comedian yeah then got into UFC and yeah so I think podcast I mean definitely podcasting is the wave right now I mean React videos too
Starting point is 00:11:37 those are a big wave it's crazy to think how many people got on that wave first but React videos have always been a thing even if you go back to like I really don't understand that even if you go back to like America's Funniest Home videos or Tosh.0 or things like that
Starting point is 00:11:52 it's really Basically, or Ray William Johnson, it's all people watching a video and reacting to it. It's like, I guess like the Tosh.0, though, but like the Tosh Point O would like bring up videos I've never seen. So it's like, but if it's like, like the first reaction channel that I watched or like knew of was the Zia S and Bilo. Like when we had those guys fly down and. They're still. Other than that, like I didn't ever. I don't care about people reacting.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Like if it's like I'll go watch it myself Like new Justin Beaver's song reaction Like oh there's a new Justin Beaver song I'll just go search for that There's there's only like a couple reaction channels I'll watch Obviously I like Ziaz and Bealoo The TST reaction Yeah obviously the TST reaction
Starting point is 00:12:41 I was thinking more along music But it's so weird There's a channel called Lost in Vegas That's like the best reaction channel And it's two guys because It's two guys and they are like some of the most intelligent, especially when it comes to like hip hop.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Like they just know all the references without looking it up. It's fucking mind blowing. I was watching them, they did the whole black thought 10, 10 minute freestyle. And they knew, they knew like almost at what,
Starting point is 00:13:08 almost every other. So are they like pausing it? Yeah, they're pausing it. And they're like, they're like freaking out. Explaining it. Yeah. They, the,
Starting point is 00:13:16 like my favorite video probably on the internet is the Lost in Vegas reaction to Loaded Lux's freestyle. because that loaded Lux freestyle. I need to listen to that again. That loaded Lux freestyle is the best freestyle of all time. I don't care what anyone says. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:29 It's the best freestyle ever. Like radio or a channel. Do it is fucking insane. I feel like I watched it once and then never really watch it again. I get that. It's just like his cadence on it because it's not like, the thing with freestyles is like you can never put them on songs because they're not like, they're not like easy to the ears.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You know what? They're not like, like you can't like, Like, bob your head to them. But like, if you listen to what they're saying, it's fucking incredible. Like, the poetry in it is just nuts, man. I'm so like. I got to, I know the Black Thought freestyle. I listen to that a bunch.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And I'm so happy that like, because I know, shit, what group was Black Thought in? The Roots. Yeah. I've never listened to The Roots either. Like, I always liked their music, thought they were good. Like, I know Black Thought, because I used to listen to Most Deaf a little. little bit and like he would have stuff with Black Thought. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And I would randomly hear him be like, this guy's fucking good. But it's, it was cool to see in this generation that Black Thoughts like, these motherfuckers think they can wrap. Yeah. Dude. And then he comes up like first take 10 minutes. No slip up. And he's wearing a suit and a top hat and sweating his ass off.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Just fucking 10 minutes straight. Dude. But it was good to see that like pop off. Like even the young. kids are like, what the fuck? Like, singing with the millions of youth. His flow the whole time is this. It's just body bags and elbows and rudder,
Starting point is 00:14:59 running drags and smell. You know what I mean? It's just like, where it's like, it's just hard. Yeah, just fucking bar after bar. And it's just like double entendres, double meanings. And then like real shit because he like, he like came from, you know, like bad parts. And then he's like talking about how like he like made it in TV and shit.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And like some people think he sold out. but he's really just getting his fucking money. Yeah, no, it was good. It was good seeing that. I love, I love shit. That's why I've been listening to, not many people, I mean, a lot of people say this, but like, if, if Drake, Jay Cole and Kendrick aren't dropping,
Starting point is 00:15:38 you're not getting that. It doesn't seem like you're getting that from anyone. Yeah. Especially in mainstream, because no one else in mainstream is like rapping, rapping. That's why I've been listening. Lately I've been listening to the new Nause album. I've been listening to a lot of Benny the Butcher.
Starting point is 00:15:53 A lot of that, like, what's his group, Griselda? I don't know. That sounds like something. Yeah. I know of Benny the Butcher. And then there's that one dude with like a, like, fucked up mouth or something. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I know who you're talking about. But it's those two Conway Conrad, Conway. I think it's Conway. Yeah. It's something like that. Those three, I think is three people in. Griselda and they wrap wrap their ass off. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I don't listen. Conway the machine. I don't listen to much like of that stuff. Like the lyrical shit. I haven't been either. I really, I think my next step, because I, because like, I've, I've been likeing that shit a lot more lately. It's just like really like listening to like the lyrics and trying to catch the,
Starting point is 00:16:46 the flips and stuff. like or the double entendres dude I think I think King Lose is the best writer in the world dude dude writer though
Starting point is 00:17:00 but his like he's one of the best freestylers I think he might he might be the best free style maybe Harry Mac Harry Mac's the best
Starting point is 00:17:08 Harry Mac's insane he has to Harry Mac freestyles without filler I saw that doesn't even make sense yeah I saw Harry Mac go
Starting point is 00:17:17 I don't know people in lot were in line for like, I don't know, fucking shoes or something, but he's like outside. And he's like, and like, no one knows of him or like knows who he is. Yeah. And he just comes from the back of the line. And like a beat starts. I don't know what they have for like everyone to hear the beat.
Starting point is 00:17:35 But the beat starts. And then he just starts rapping from the back of the line to the front of the line talking about like, in his blue shirt. It's crazy. Like that. And I'm just like, how the fuck? Like it's one thing to be able to do that every now and again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:49 But he does that every single time and he'll do it live in front of people, like one take. Have you seen like, when he had streams? He hit like a hundred, or he had like a million views or a million subscribers and rap for 10 hours straight. Freestyle for 10 hours. The Vod is on his channel. 10 hours straight of freestyle. So a million what followers on Twitch? A million subscribers on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Something like that. It was like something like that. Yeah. But it was like, it was either like nine or 10 hours. Yeah, that's fucking insane. Because he treats, he treats freestyling how I don't think I've ever seen anyone else treat. Like he does like training. He'll go on, he'll go on and he'll like pull up a random word generator and then he'll practice not doing filler.
Starting point is 00:18:33 So his filler, he said his filler was like, yo, it's Harry Mac. And then he would think. But he would, he would train himself not to do that. And my, my, and then so I was like, I was like watching it on stream. And I was like, wait, what's my filler? And my filler is like, maybe I'll, and I'll just always say, like, maybe. Wait, what the fuck is my filler? Yours is everybody knows.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Is it? Yes. Or, yo, it's maniac. Maniac, maniac. Motherfucking. I know I always say motherfucker. Every time I freestyle, I say motherfucker. I always.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I always freestyle like every day in the shower or at least in my head. Yeah, I first style a lot. But it's always a motherfucking this, a motherfucking neck. Mine is always like, I'm about. to or yeah I'm about to I'm about to hold you I'm about to make sure that you I'm about to make sure that's my filler
Starting point is 00:19:25 I'm about to make sure I'm about to make sure I'm about to make sure that you hold your nose before we're poof gone like the holy ghost I'm the motherfucking best but you're the motherfucking rest that you in your fucking check I always say motherfucker you just do it over and over and over yeah I've been like
Starting point is 00:19:40 I've been like obsessed with it almost like what freestyle Harry Max freestyle not Harry not freest, like, lyrical shit. Like, rap in general, basically, but not like, I think ever since Jay Cole's album dropped, I was like, I've been into, like, you know what's surprising?
Starting point is 00:19:59 UK rap? They rap, they rap multi-syllables. They do. They rap. UK drill? Yeah. Like, it's surprising how, like, it makes sense why Drake fucks with that.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Because it's, it's, it's as if you took Atlanta or Chicago drill and you add in multi-syllables. Yeah. That's literally what it is. Yeah. Which that's the only thing. Like, Chicago drill is like fun to listen to, but you can't like, I can't listen to it that often. Yeah, there's some artists where it's just like.
Starting point is 00:20:30 It's like they kind of wrap off beat and it's just mostly about like the fucking rawness of it. Yeah. And it'll just be like one syllable like going, going to the park and I shot that man dead. Everyone instead of like, man dead, damn, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yeah. shot that man dead everyone knows that i'm getting yeah you heard what i said yeah yeah yeah but like uk rap is they're rapping almost how like drake rap yeah yeah yeah and then they hit like they hit it's like the way they hit their punch lines is like they hit it late almost it's like and you know she's damaged yeah it's like it's like damage it's like the beat drops on damn and then he goes into edge damage you know we Batman. Like that shit like it's so it's I've been listening a little bit of that like who do you
Starting point is 00:21:19 been listening to? Um, I don't I don't remember any of the artist's names but it'll there's this one fuck what's this it's like a UK producer and then he'll have UK artists and like his booth and he'll put on a beat and they'll all wrap. So it's like I don't really know any of the artists. Yeah. But I've been listening to like it's like unknown tea I think is his name. He always goes listen at the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And then he's like a really deep voice, but his shit is hard. Like it hits hard. But yeah, I've been listening to some of that too. The weight, dude, it's like no wonder. I'm surprised nobody in America like did that before Drake did. Everybody like talk shit about Drake for like, or like not everybody, but some people were like, oh yeah, he's culture stealing or whatever. But like, I'm surprised nobody else has collabed with like.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Like those artists before. Dude, if you say it's like culture stealing. No, it's. I get. I mean, yeah, obviously. I know. Yeah, no one fucking, Drake literally put the UK on the map for us. Because they've been.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah. Well, yeah. They've been doing like for America, like nobody, I don't know anybody in America that was listening to like shit like that. Like, I remember my first. The only UK you would hear would be like battle rap. where you would see like Elmaculet and the Soros or some
Starting point is 00:22:47 UK books. First fucking, what's that guy's name? Ah, the white dude. What a UK guy guy? Yeah, he's so good. How do I, dude, it's been so long as I've watched. But he started,
Starting point is 00:23:01 I think he's like a big, a big guy in, uh, in UK now. I think he does like electronic music. But. I need to warn everyone watching this or listening to this. I grabbed, um, some of Hector's alcohol. It's like some kind of whiskey.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It's probably some nice, expensive whiskey. And even though I haven't ate today, I was like, no, I'll be good. And then I was sipping this before the podcast, and I was like, wait a second. I might have just chalked myself. You might be drunk. And then you saw me, or I don't know if it was because the Hennessy jersey. You know this is the Mob Deep jersey that they wore in like shook ones? You told me about it.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I don't. That was about. I didn't even think of it. of it being my little flycast album i thought for sure that's what you're going to choose i should have with this jersey yeah but infinite i mean infinite is good too but i actually know most of the songs on infinite so it'd be good for people watching the people the younger audience like you need to go listen to infinite m&m he's i remember what i remember the first time it's kind of like not it's not corny now, but it's like over,
Starting point is 00:24:10 overused now. But one of the songs he says, he does like an AB, he does like an alphabet scheme, ABC something and I'd rock the microphone with ease. I don't remember. It's like ABCD and then I rocked them. The punchline was I rocked the microphone
Starting point is 00:24:27 with ease. And I remember I was in high school when I heard that and I was like mind blown. You heard in high school? Yeah. What were you listening to in like ninth grade? besides low wayne Boston no I started listening
Starting point is 00:24:46 yeah I guess were you listening to anything different in from 9th to 11th 9th yeah yeah from from 9th until from freshman to junior year I only listened
Starting point is 00:25:02 to rock I didn't listen to rap at all what kind of rock like um or I guess his Classic. I listened to a lot of classic rock. My freshman in sophomore year. And then I listened to a lot of like,
Starting point is 00:25:17 like chili peppers. Was that the thing in your high school? Like that to listen to that kind of music? I basically listened to whatever. There was a girl I was crushing on. And she loved the chili peppers. She loved the chili peppers. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:25:33 So like all of a sudden I was a huge chili peppers fan. And like next thing you know, your MySpace songs. Under the bridge. Under the bridge downtown. I remember this girl I liked like the whole like Wonderwall. Who was it, Wonderwall, Oasis, yeah, yeah. Like shit like that. And I was like, yeah, I love that.
Starting point is 00:25:52 That's my MySpace songs. Start putting all that shit on. Oasis has some bangers, dude. I think that's the band that like hates each other now. Like they've been broken up for a long time. It's either of that. It's one of those UK bands that they like literally hate each other. But they have like,
Starting point is 00:26:08 bangers. Was there any rap that you would listen? Like, I remember listening to Meek Mills first, like, mixtape called Flamers. And like 2009, like that picture. Like that at the time when he's, yeah. Yeah. When he's like in this, literally still in the streets.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And it's crazy how big he got. Yeah. See, I didn't, I would listen to whatever Brandon put on. And I remember, I remember Brandon put on this, or he brought a CD that he burned. Dude, how crazy is it? that people don't burn CDs anymore. The whole generation now has never burned a CD. They don't even know what it is probably.
Starting point is 00:26:45 But he was like, he was like, bro, I promise you everybody's listening to this new Drizzy dude. Drizzy Drake, that's what everybody's listening to. I was like, okay. And they put on best I ever had. That was the first time I'd ever heard him. But as far as like-
Starting point is 00:27:00 Was that on So Far Gone? I think it was a single off of So Far Gone. Because I never listened to, I still, to this day, haven't listened to that mixtape. it out. Wait, what? You haven't listened to so far gone?
Starting point is 00:27:12 No, no, so far gone. The one before that. The one with, comeback season? Yeah, yeah, it was like Jodice's freestyle. Like, is that, is that? Or I don't know if Jodicee wasn't on that. That was later.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Oh. Because that was with like J. Cole. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, that was later. But yeah, Drace had some like pretty good. Dude, I went to a Drake concert in like 2009. That's not.
Starting point is 00:27:35 That is. Yeah, because I remember I was going to go to a Little Wayne concert. And in freshman year, but I, but that's where like everyone was going. It was like, either freshman or sophomore year. And I was like, I was like, I was like, I really want to go. But like, there's no way I'm even going to ask my parents. I know they're going to say no.
Starting point is 00:27:55 So then when everybody was talking about it the next day, it was like a young money tour. So Drake opened up. No, Nikki Minaj opened up for Drake who opened up for Lil Wayne. Like, yes. Like, Nikki Minaj, back, man. Before she even had an album. Because it was before she had an album. When did Nikki Minaj even fucking come out?
Starting point is 00:28:19 She had that crazy shit. Well, she had that crazy verse on Monster. And then she had that really good verse on, what's that big Young Money song? Not, not. A millie? Not, no, that's not. No, that's not the, oh, fuck,
Starting point is 00:28:38 every girl in the world, but the other one. Young money. What did Nikki Minaj get popping? Bedrock. I can make your bedrock. She had a verse on that. Really? And I remember that song.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I don't remember her, though. I remember that's when I was like, holy shit, who is this? Like, she can, like, rap, rap. Did you ever see the Nicki Minaj and, like, the streets of fucking? Oh, no, no, no. I'm thinking of Cardi B. Cardi B has, like a freestyle.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Really? She was like a like Actually really in it Almost like a 6-9 video Yeah Yeah like on the porch She's like rapping Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:16 No but Nikki Minaj has like a Like you ever seen the old meek mill freestyle is like Right yeah yeah Like Nicki Minaj I'm pretty sure Because I think at the time Some people were saying that's not Nicky Minaj Because like she looks a little busted
Starting point is 00:29:30 Like she doesn't have all the fucking fake shit done to her And the makeup and all that And she's just like rapping in the streets That's crazy And it was still good, though. I wonder if she ever like, I wonder what it's like being somebody like that. Because it's like, I feel like when you look at like low Wayne's past or like Drake's past, you can see like the development. But you can still see that person and this new person.
Starting point is 00:29:56 For Nikki Minaj, it's like, it's like she like changed completely. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like she was, what do people call it when? industry plant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's almost like she was an industry plant. Yeah, kind of.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Because she just straight up, it was like a complete 180 of fucking a huge ass, big ass, makeup, craziness. She has like split personalities, like, oh, my goal. And like all that shit. And it works somehow. And then it's like, fucking Cardi B does the same thing,
Starting point is 00:30:33 almost. It's what it seems like. Yeah. It's just wild. I don't know. I wonder what it's like to sit down with those people and talk about their past. Because I feel like you don't see that too often. You'll see, you'll see it from other people.
Starting point is 00:30:48 See, that's what I like about, even though I'm a Drake Dick Rider, but like there's videos of Drake freestyling in front of like 30 people in a fucking bar, wherever he's at. Yeah. And he's still like, like you hear that and you're like, damn, this was in 05. Like, all right. That's crazy. And he's still sort of spitting the same way.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah. Why do you think Drake is so... I think Drake might have the perfect rap voice. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that... It's a very dick-rider thing to say, but I think you're correct. Even if you heard that song with somebody... It's a very dick-rider thing for you to say, but I think you're correct.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I've thought it, I've thought it too. That song that, you know, you want to waste your time, then waste your time with me. Yeah. That song, it's like, it's like that, I forget his name. I feel bad for not knowing his name, but the actual guy who sings it and then it's a feature with Drake. And it's like, he sings the whole time. And then it's like, it's Drake's verse comes on it.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And you just hear it. Yeah. Yeah. You're just like, oh shit. Here it comes. It's like, I like the lighter flick. Yeah. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Something I always do in my car when I'm with my girl is we'll be listening to Drake. And of course, before. his verse starts he's like yeah and like she'll think it's so like psycho but i'm just like like he'll do what the song's continuing and i'm just in the driver's seat so like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like trying to like perfect i'm like dude how is his yeah so good yeah yeah yeah it's this show like yeah yeah yeah yeah like yeah yeah like yeah yeah like yeah yeah like i'll hear that and i'm like yeah no that one no that one yeah yeah I was pretty, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:43 No, I tried to do it again. I'll fuck it up. Yeah. No. Yeah. That's so funny. I wonder, dude, have you, I wonder what the first, like, going back to, like, the, like, well, actually, have you looked, this one was going to ask you, have you looked up, like,
Starting point is 00:32:59 the ghost writing shit? Like, have you actually, like, looked at what everybody's talking about when they, well, I know what it is. It's, um. Is that, like, six. I forget his name. the i've been running through the six with my woes that audio got leaked of i forget his fucking name um but he just helps people with writing and like hooks and stuff and he recorded that
Starting point is 00:33:24 with his own voice like it's like i've been running through the six with my woes and like drake just literally took what he said and just put it yeah it's just like it's just like it's just like it's sounds way better. It's like crazy how much it got blown out of proportion. Yeah. It is like, Drake's one of the best writers ever. It is like in,
Starting point is 00:33:42 like, because like, it's just kind of like the, the dent in his armor. And everyone, I feel like everyone knows that it's not that big, not as big of a deal as everyone's making it seem.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Because there's no, they want, they just want to hate on it. There is no way. I'm not saying every rapper gets reference tracks of like, hooks like yo yeah you know 10 bands 20 fans fucking man and then he's like okay that's a good hook
Starting point is 00:34:10 yeah and then he writes two verses to it and then puts it out I'm not saying every rapper does that but there's no way every rapper is sitting by himself in a secluded room writing the whole hook all the verses like they're with their boys there and it's like yo give me a
Starting point is 00:34:26 what's a you know renaissance and they're like I've been a you know get a ton or something like, you know what I mean? Like they give them every, well, I feel like it's a collaborative.
Starting point is 00:34:39 It has to be. There's no way it's not. Yeah, it all is. There's no way it's not. There's like the crazy rap OGs, like the Jadicus and the Stiles P. who were like, nah, if you ain't right at all, then I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then like I really. Which is fair. Not that they're not fucking with it. It's that I guess if you're not writing at all, then you can't consider yourself one of the best. Yeah. But I feel like there's so many Drake's songs
Starting point is 00:35:12 where I'm sure he wrote 98% of it. Yeah. Like, you know, people are in the studio with him saying like, nah, instead of saying it like this, say it like this. So it's like, are you going to count that against him to where? True. It's like change your flow from that to day. But even like the, I've been running through the six with my, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:33 Drake didn't come up with that. But it's like, who used to say Drake didn't come up with the other 90% of the song? Yeah, that's what I mean, I watched it because I was, at one point I was just like, all right,
Starting point is 00:35:44 let me figure out what this whole shit was about. Because I like kind of, stupid. I like kind of ignored it. No, like no lie whenever, because when it first came out, I was like,
Starting point is 00:35:52 nah, fuck that. Because what, what actually like stung at first was when I found out he didn't write the first, it was like the first four or six bars of, uh, his,
Starting point is 00:36:03 Rico feature. And that's when I was like, holy shit. That shit goes so hard. I don't really care about songs like that. Like the random songs where he's like featured or he like stuff like that. But it's when just the fact that I've been listening to Drake since like 2007 and I've been, he put out a mixtape in like 2006 and I've been listening to that. And like he's rapping his ass off back then.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Like I know Drake can rap. And you'll find other fire. songs that have by another artist and it'll be written by Drake. Right, yeah. Like he wrote he writes. He wrote like Father Stretch My Hands or Kanye
Starting point is 00:36:44 album or like Kanye song. Yeah. I think I believe he did. If you look at every artist shit like they always have the credits at the end and yeah like written by and it'll be like low dirt blah blah blah and then four four other five random other people and it's just like who's like who's. the fuck is that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Like no one's doing all of this shit. That wouldn't even be fun. Yeah, right? I mean, I think. That's like saying if you stream with other people. Well, I don't know if this is a good. If you stream with other people. You're not a streamer.
Starting point is 00:37:22 It's like, yeah. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Because I feel like if you get into that like secluded environment, then you're just kind of full, you're just kind of around a bunch of yes man. and then you get into like a really weird like anything you put out as good. I feel like that's kind of what happened with that like, what was that album that Eminem put out? Revival? Recovery?
Starting point is 00:37:46 No, no, no. The bad one. It might have been. Not revival. Yeah, maybe it is. Relapse? No, you're thinking of good albums. I'm thinking of the really bad one.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Relapse, recovery. I think it's revival. It might be, yeah. It's like a, it's got a plane on it. And then it came out and everyone trashed it. And it was just kind of like, well, haven't you been like hunkered down in your own studio for like a year and writing everything yourself and not really like, you know, branching out and collage? Because I feel like he used to be in the studio with everyone. I actually do wonder if Eminem has, there's no way on an Eminem verse that he has like anyone.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I'm sure there's no way Eminem writes his own choruses and stuff. No, no, he doesn't. But as far as his own verses. That's true. Bro, I didn't even think about that. Eminem has hooks brought to him. Yeah. Like that's every, people need to realize every single artist in the world.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Do you think Beyonce has wrote even 20% of her music? No. I didn't even think, I didn't even think about that. Because like, when I walk, no, no, that's Beyonce. What am I thinking of? the Rihanna song where it's like I'm gonna set this
Starting point is 00:39:07 tired to the bed set this house on fire oh with M&M. Yeah, that song a different lady wrote that hook and then he got Rihanna on the hook and then she wrote another hook for him and then he was like I want you
Starting point is 00:39:24 to be the main artist on the hook that time. So like he does shit like that all the time. That's just how it. That's just how it is. Yeah. like when you're that it's crazy that like Drake did the
Starting point is 00:39:37 if I'm running through the 6th with my woes if he had put what's that guy's name I forget the ghost writer's name if he had put him on the hook and it said featuring him instead of Drake doing it then like this wouldn't even be a conversation
Starting point is 00:39:51 you know what I mean Drake ghost what the fuck is that a train picking it up is that a train where are their train tracks that's what i'm wondering i don't know i think um quentin miller that's yeah how would you just pull that out of your house i don't know because i
Starting point is 00:40:09 kept thinking rice and tiller but that's somebody else but quinn and miller probably goes for dude that's just how the industry is nowadays not even nowadays that's how then that's how music works he was uh i don't want to fuck like if i wrapped i don't want to fucking think of hooks yeah dude hooks And Drake, you can, well, I feel like I can tell when Drake writes his own, like, like verse. Like when I can, you can tell certain songs are solo Lee Drake. Yeah, yeah. And I, I just take those songs and I'm like, yeah, like, no one fucks with this.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Like, no. Yeah. He's the best. It's like even the greatest of the greatest rapper of all the time. Honestly, Eminem's the, I guess the greatest rapper. It just depends. It's hard to say greatest rapper. I feel like Eminem has to be the greatest rapper.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Eminem's probably the best at putting words together, yes. But sometimes... So like the greatest rapper. Sometimes Eminem says... Sometimes Eminem says some shit and it's just like... Yeah. But Eminem has so much shit where it's like you have. There's like...
Starting point is 00:41:15 I don't know if there's enough shit in the world to talk about. But like have you listened to... From Rap God on, have you like listened to much of his stuff? Because every time Eminem drops an outfit... album it's just like I didn't when I heard rap god I got pissed yeah I stopped listening to Eminem after one of his like 2007 album encore or like something like around then like that infinite slim shady LP Marshall Mathers encore might be like probably missing more like it I really don't like it when he double times I really don't I think I feel like it's his voice he did some relapses when I
Starting point is 00:41:58 stop listening to him when he's doing some weird fucking like Arabic type voice. Oh yeah. I was like what the, I was like, what the fuck? It's because that's how that's what he used. That's about when I stopped listening to his newer stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:11 That's like what he used to like bend his vowels. So they rhymes. Yeah. So he was like, how do I do it? I can just wrap. He's just been rapping so much where he's like, hmm,
Starting point is 00:42:20 if I, how can I change this up a little bit? It's wrapping a complete different. It's weird. I know. Because it's not. like he has to have that like slim shady like hi my name is he doesn't have to have that dialect for it to sound good because his forever verse is insane and it's very easy to listen to
Starting point is 00:42:43 i want to hear m&m just for shits and gigs like just be like yo rap like your rap like it's 2002 yeah like is i'm keeping it raw illegal like malik and jamal yeah i don't believe in the law like I'm Steven Seagal. Yeah. Lippen off the police while I'm leaping the wall. Take a bunch of Tylenol and fall asleep in the mall. Dude, that shit is just like a regular, like. But the thing is, is what when you say he's the best rapper of all time,
Starting point is 00:43:08 I think he's the best technical rapper of all time. But like everything you just said, like doesn't really make sense. I'm keeping it raw. Illegal like Malik and Jamal, whoever that is. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like, none of it really. Because I don't believe in the law.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Like I'm Steven's a call. Lippen off the police while I'm leaping the wall. Take a bunch of Tylenolol and fall asleep in the wall. It's the best it's the best rhyme scheme that in the the flow like hits so hard. Beep the ball. But it's like sometimes whenever he's talking, I'm like, yeah, but what did he just say? Yeah. I feel like he didn't say anything, but he just put shit together perfectly.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Yeah. That's why sometimes like when you hear like the Wu-Tang Foreververse or like, it's like that's, he's saying shit. You know what I mean? He's hitting his multi-syllibles, but he's also fucking like. Yeah. I noticed that with Drake is he doesn't do. like multi-syllables in like the beginning of his sentences like he does a whole sentence and then hits like his sentences are like longer he's not just like multi-syllable it's crazy he does like whole sentences
Starting point is 00:44:09 sort of explaining shit dude listen so this is the k s this is little wayne's verse on the ks i track and listen to the multisyllables through this dude it is and and the shit that he says uh he says oh she loves me she loves me not pay patience i'm running out walking all over me made me her stomping ground baby you fucked around gave me the run around making me wonder how crazy and dumb i sound taking me up and down baby i'm coming down i need some extermination nation i'm bugging out stay for another round maybe she'll come around she's gonna have me turning in my grave when i'm underground that is low wayne that is fucking crazy on i can't that was ks i's verse
Starting point is 00:44:55 Dude, that is in, I don't think people understand how hard that is. In the fact that he's not writing it. Oh, dude, if he punched in on that, that is stupid. You know there's like YouTube videos? Like he doesn't write. Yeah, him and Jay-Z. There's like a YouTube.
Starting point is 00:45:14 That is stupid. It's like a YouTube mixtape. Low Wayne. Dude, that is in free scale. There's something. to where one day he just took everything he ever wrote. Oh, it started like...
Starting point is 00:45:30 Yeah. Is that what it is? He did an interview where he went to the studio and he had everything in his in his binder or it was like a notebook and he was wrapping. 10,000 bars. Oh, 10,000? She thought it was 5,000. I thought I was maybe, oh, I was
Starting point is 00:45:46 thinking of... 500 degrees? No, I was thinking of 50 bars by 50 cent. That's what I was thinking of. I was mixing those two up. So he said dude he said in his uh he said in the interview one time and he might be like exaggerating but he had his notebook 34 minutes of just of everything he had in his notebook he had his notebook he had his notebook and then he would rip the pages out and throw him and then he would wrap
Starting point is 00:46:12 whatever else is on the page and rip the pages out and throw him and he said in that studio they laminated the floor and so it's just the pages on the floor and if he's right about that that's those gangster shit. Yeah, especially like back then, because this was probably when he was like 18 or something. I mean, I bet you like go DJ and shit had already come out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:35 But I know after he did, I think after he did this, he never wrote again. He only, and he's still. Only punch. You know he's one of the best when even Drake is just like,
Starting point is 00:46:49 like, there's no outworking him. There's no really like outwrapping him. You can't out rap him. And it's weird because he's just like a dude from just a he's like five five from poverty. He sort of grew up in the rap scene, but like at like 12, the pool was rapping. Even his like hot boy's shit and his like 500 degrees like dude. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Listen to that. And I'm like, I ain't listening to that shit. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't. But it's still he still wraps like he used. Like he still wraps like that. Yeah. It's still just constant multisyllables that mean shit.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Dude, it's fucking, and it's crazy how much he went pop too. Not like pop music, but like went popular. Like there was a time in our, when we were early high school where it was like T. Payne was on every hook and Lil Wayne was on every verse. Like on every like feature. Like, dude. It was crazy when he went to the like lickney. like the rock lick me like a lollipop type base i remember i was a hater yeah when that shit came out i was the biggest hater with that because i was the low wayne like just a rapper fan and then he came
Starting point is 00:48:06 out with all the rock the lick me like a lot of pop queen and i was like man low wayne same but it's weird because now i look at that music and i'm like he was ahead of his time literally ahead of its time to where it's like i don't understand it so i just have to hate on it because now it's like i mean Now it's like, Trippy Red and shit like that. They're doing that all the time. That's what they do is. Yeah, literally. Wrap over rock beats.
Starting point is 00:48:30 It's what it seems like. Yeah, literally. That shit's crazy, dude. Is that what this whole podcast is going to be about? Well, I mean, we're an hour in and we've only shown to know. We're an hour in? What the 52 minutes? I thought we'd be like 40 minutes, maybe.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I don't know. What else has happened? Sorry, I get really into that shit. No, it's all good. This is weekly. So, like, we just got a hell of. this shit to talk about. What else has happened besides, so yeah. So yeah, what I was saying is the album, the podcast album of this week is going to be infinite by Eminem. By Eminem. Yep. And you can watch
Starting point is 00:49:10 the documentary Infinite too. Should we even talk about anything else? If you want to. No. What else is there to even talk about? I don't know, man. Like I don't want to switch. I know there is, I know I wanted to always talk about like the hook addy situation, the CDL, Addy situation. Shit. Cod champs. If you want. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:35 There's always, well, apparently, well, shit, I get, someone leaked it, right? What? Can we talk about the champs might be canceled? Yeah. Yeah, we can talk about that. So yeah, champs might be canceled. Probably there's rumors going around that champs might be canceled. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Which would really fucking suck. It's kind of understandable, but I guess they're talking about it being no crowd right now because of, I guess in L.A. It's apparently COVID's coming back and in L.A., they're a lot more strict right now. In L.A., you have to wear masks indoors. So there might not be. If there's no fans, there should be no champs. I don't even want to go to chance. Actually, I'm not going to go to champs unless there's fans.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Right now, it's like myself, Blake George. Blake's wife, it was going to be her first event, and Alexis, we're all going to go. But it's like, if there's no fans, like, might as well to save our money. Like, yeah, I don't know. Like, yeah, I ain't going on. Like, there's no reason to go. Really. That really sucks, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:38 But I guess I'm going to kind of be bummed. It is what it is, I guess. That sucks. Two champs back to back, no fans. Maybe both champs online because people are saying they might even do it online. No. So I'm saying. It doesn't make sense. Why the fuck are we going to L.A. for Champs? If Chances online, I'm going to, I got to figure out something like DDoS.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Just for the culture, I can't see that. We have to find the B.ZZZ IP. What is, dude, it's like who in their right mind? I understand that Champs has most of the time always been in L.A. Or always been in Cali, except for one random year. It was in Orlando, I think. but like every single CDL pro almost 90% of CDL pros live in Texas Texas has the best internet you don't have to you don't have to pay for flights
Starting point is 00:51:30 you don't even have to pay for flights just have champs here and there's you know loose restrictions not saying that's like even like necessarily a good thing because yeah I wonder how they do determine what and where they're going to have it yeah I don't not here. Why not here? It doesn't make any sense. Like I guess when- No one cares where champs is.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I guess when they booked it, it was like... I mean, honestly, they're probably booking it like a year in advance type shit. They booked it when COVID was on its decline and they thought everything was just going to be wide open. And now like new variants are coming out and like things are getting a little bit more tight again.
Starting point is 00:52:15 But they're going to get tight in different places. Because I think, here in Texas, the Rangers are always going to be wide open. I think the FC Dallas, the Cowboys games are always going to be. I don't think they'll ever shut down again just because of how Texas is. And it's like, it's kind of like a free-for-all. Well, my battery died. Yeah, one of the, we're shutting down here.
Starting point is 00:52:38 We're shutting down here. I guess we'll figure out or we'll find out what's going to happen with Chance. I was actually, I was kind of hyped because I was going to be there for a week. Yeah. from like the 19th to like the 26 or something. I was kind of hype for champ. So if that is canceled, I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:57 it better not go to online. Hopefully it's just postponed on anything. I guess we'll find out. And then I guess we'll talk about it on the next flycats, weekly episode. Weekly episode. All right, man. So make sure to listen to Infinite.
Starting point is 00:53:12 You can probably find it on YouTube somewhere. Yeah, let me know what y'all think about Infinite by Eminem. Find it. You'll find it on YouTube. Keep in mind, it's the mixtape that he gave Dr. Dre, or that made its way to Dr. Dre and then which eventually led to his success. That is what happened, isn't it? So it's like, Dr. Dre heard that and then he was like, and then he gets him in the studio.
Starting point is 00:53:35 First thing he says is, hi, my name is. Yeah. It's like what started at all. And Nick's drunk. All right. No, I'm just depressed that like that much greatness exists. And I wasn't a part of it. Do we have any outro music?

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