The Flycast - Is CoD Champs Happening? Flycast Album Club | The Flycast Ep. 38
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Uh, energy, energy.
Blu-Bloop-Bloop.
Bap-b-de-bop-bop-b-b-b-b-r-r-up.
Back to another episode of the Flycast.
Oh, it's just a beautiful day.
Weekly.
This is a good day.
How did you like the Boston album?
I don't know if we should start out like that all the time, but there's episode something.
And I'm just looking at this, the last time we did it, uh, we've.
What is it, Flycast album club?
Someone said, is that what we called it?
Yeah, the Album Club.
The Flycast Album Club.
It was good.
The Boston album was really good.
I'm glad.
So I hope.
Wait, what is it?
It's Stay by Kid Leroy, Leroy, and Justin Bieber.
On this new album?
Yeah.
Dude, Twitter always comes in.
Just responded in five seconds.
Five seconds.
I knew I knew Twitter would be would get it.
Um, yeah, the Boston album was fucking great.
And I feel like I've heard all of those songs before, but just not like in order.
Yeah, yeah.
That's an amazing album.
What year was that album made?
1976.
What?
Yeah.
1970s.
That's crazy to think about in 1976.
People were like, I guess.
Alive.
Alive.
And like making good.
Like people were smart enough back then to like make.
Good album.
It's crazy because, like, nowadays, it's like all plugins and different things and everything.
Everything you have is, like, available.
You can download pretty much everything.
The shit with, like, to get their sound, they would buy guitar pedals and, like, take them apart and, like, reconnect wires and, like, change the distortion of certain things and, like, put it, you know, add different pedals together and, like, find their own sounds that way.
Like, they were doing, like, handyman work.
If you find a producer from like back then and look at their like studio,
just machines, keyboards, pianos,
like literally a spaceship.
Yeah.
Nowadays it's literally just a PC.
Yeah.
My album, should I say it now?
Yeah, yeah.
My album and I hope people aren't disappointed with this.
And I hope you're not disappointed with this.
But I'm going to go with Eminem Infinite.
Just because I feel like a lot.
of people listening. It's going to be hard to find it.
You're not on. It's not on Spotify.
Really? Only Infinite is on Spotify.
Because he remastered it.
What do you mean only Infinite?
Oh, just the one song.
Just the song.
All right. If y'all go on YouTube, you can find Infinite.
Yeah.
The Eminem album.
It is insane.
Because when people, a lot of our listeners, followers, whatever, they, everyone's an
Eminem fucking, everyone likes Eminem.
Dude, it is.
And they talk about the Slim, Slim, Slim,
80 LP and the, of course, Marshall Mathers LP.
But people, no one talks about that.
No one talks about infant. His first album, Infinite.
He doesn't like Infinite. Really?
Yeah, he said, in one of those, in one of those, um, documentaries, he was like, yeah,
I was just handing out my tape. It was like my bullshit ass first tape. And I was handing it out
to people. And I was like, I hope he's not talking about it. Dude, what? Because that shit is
crazy. Yeah. Like his rhyme scheme, he's like a master at putting words together.
Yeah. My pen and paper calls a chain reaction and get your brain relax. And,
I'm a brainiac, a maniac in action.
Like, you mainly lack attraction.
You look insanely whack sun.
You're just a son.
You're on a fraction of my tracks runs.
It's like, my rhyming skills got you climbing hills.
Yeah.
It's just, it's constant rhyming.
That was Eminem before he, that was him just like rapping.
Dude, just like dude.
Before he got into like the.
That's why it's crazy.
It's crazy to think like what, who he was inspired.
by because he always talks about how he was he's like like a home body whenever he talks about that
so he's like I was inspired by proof but like I never proof was in D12 right yeah because I never like I never
listened to that that I listened to a little bit of proof and I never listened to all the stuff like he
he was inspired by like naughty by nature and like that it was like the early stages if if I'm probably
gonna offend a lot of people but like the early stages of like lyrical almost
backpack-ish rap because when I when I was talking to Hex about it I was like I was like did you
ever listen to like not because I was trying to get into like 90s rap so did you ever listen to like
naughty by nature and he was like no I don't even listen to G shit and I was like okay but
but isn't naughty by nature like I'm honestly not that familiar with them like treaching but it's
funny it's funny hex says that because who does who's is a sap rock they're like his
favorite that's like the ultimate backpack that's like the ultimate backpack is like it's
Like the final boss.
Yeah.
It's so weird.
I was thinking about it today.
And I was like, I wonder what the, I wonder what hex is.
Because Hex is so like arrogant about his, about what he listens to.
He's like, nah, I only listen to real shit.
I was thinking about it.
What is, what do you think is the last time Hex listened to a new song?
Like a song came out and he was like, I like that shit.
Or like a new album.
Right.
Has he ever been excited?
Ever since I've known Hex, he's never been excited for.
an album or new music.
You don't really hear him talk about.
No.
He's listened to the same Wu-Tang album for 30 years.
And he still loves that shit.
He's stuck in his ways.
Like every time I get in the car with him, he's playing ASAP rock.
Yeah, A-Sap Rock or Wutang.
Do you like him?
A-sap rock?
I respect him.
Yeah.
But like...
It's kind of like new M&M.
It's like I understand how hard it is.
That's got to be very difficult.
But it's hard to listen to.
You hear Eminem on Nas' album?
Yeah.
Still good.
It's fucking good.
But it's like,
I miss shady.
Yeah.
We all do.
I think we all do.
It's like that whole fucking,
hi,
my name is like none of that.
That hasn't.
You know,
there was a documentary.
I feel like I might have told you this before,
but Dr.
Dr.
Dr.
put on the beat.
Yes.
And the first thing he did.
And then the first thing Eminem said was,
hi,
my name is.
And Dr.
Dave was like,
what the fuck?
Like this guy's different.
Yeah.
Dude,
hooks are like the hardest part.
That's,
what's crazy is Eminem was,
it's like,
he was like signed to Dr.
Dre, right?
Yeah.
That's fucking weird.
Like,
how was Eminem signed to anyone?
Yeah.
Like,
shouldn't people just be,
like everyone's like that though.
Wayne was signed to Birdman.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Dude.
Bro.
Now that we're not on the Optic podcast,
I have to,
I have to show you.
Have you ever,
have you heard
the KSI
Lowell Wayne song yet?
Listen to Lowell Wayne's,
uh,
someone said lowell Wayne's verse was like his rock and rolly type.
He rap,
I mean,
it's rap.
It's,
I mean,
he raps,
but he does sing the hook.
That's why it's,
it's like his rock style hook,
but he wraps the verse.
What if we,
when stuff gets demonetized on YouTube,
is it muted?
No.
Or like, so we could just like not be monetized.
Yeah.
And we could just like play.
I'm playing.
That's what I'm doing.
That could be like some pretty good video ideas.
I'm like,
play some of your like favorite stuff.
I'm down.
The,
uh,
that's what I'm doing on my vlogs.
I'm not monetizing.
I know it.
I put the Drake's.
Yeah.
What was the Drake song?
You can take me now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now I heard that and I was like,
it's just like,
it's not,
but it makes the vlog so.
Yeah.
Like, it's just nice.
It's different.
Yeah.
The, I'm not my entire, that entire channel hasn't been uploaded in so long that the whole
thing is to monetize.
I'd have to set it all back up.
What?
What?
Because my, I was with like a, what is it when you like went through it?
You had to go through like a third party at when YouTube first started to get monetized.
What if those called?
I don't know.
Those like companies.
I think I was signed with like MLG or something.
Yeah.
You were, y'all were with MLG.
I don't remember the last.
time I got paid from YouTube.
Y'all were with MLG.
I was with broadband.
Some people were,
I was with curse at one point.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
I don't remember the last time I got paid from YouTube.
I don't even think those things happen anymore.
I think it's all through YouTube,
through adsense.
Like Google AdSense?
Yeah.
Because I just made a Maniac Play's channel.
And I got,
I saw I got paid through that.
And I was like, wait,
when's the last time I got paid from fucking YouTube on my main channel?
Right.
And I think I'm signed to MLG.
Oh,
Which is like a good
Um
US
CPMs
Yeah
Whatever it's good
But like I don't remember last time
I got fucking paid
It's like this MLG
Like am I ever gonna see this money
I guess we'll find out
What was last to be uploaded
Well my main channel
Um
Just like these
Flycasts and
Oh yeah yeah
I forgot
I totally forgot the Flycast goes on that channel
It's really about it
I think I uploaded one vlog
since the
since the hab
yeah
vlogging kind of
you're getting back into vlogging
yeah
for me it's like
it's like vlogging's I don't
I don't know how people daily vlog
the daily vlog thing is
I think that shit's over
it's like whenever you
I guess have something worth vlogging
that was a crazy wave
if you did I think that wave
has come and gone
yeah it's more of like now
it's like a podcast wave
I mean, as we're doing this, but it's like everyone has a podcast.
Every stand-up comedian in the world has a podcast.
What's the next wave going to be?
Because right now the wave is podcasting.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But at least we did this shit before it got.
Before it was huge.
We've been doing this.
Even though all these people who just started their podcast this year have more episodes
in us, we've been doing this shit for like four years or something.
Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan did like 300 episodes that got zero views.
views, like no views.
Yeah.
Who's doing them on live, live streams for like 40 people.
It's crazy when he mentions he's been doing it for so long.
And he's talking like, uh, 2012.
Yeah, what?
2012.
You were podcasting in 2012 just for the fuck of it.
Like he had no like social media.
Like, you know, Joe Rogan, the Fear Factor guy.
Yeah, the Fear Factor guy is what people knew him as.
And he was just doing podcasts.
Oh, shit is.
And he still had all these like really great.
sort of like big friends
like all this comedian
yeah
then got into UFC
and yeah
so I think podcast
I mean definitely podcasting
is the wave right now
I mean React videos too
those are a big wave
it's crazy to think how many people
got on that wave first
but React videos have always been a thing
even if you go back to like
I really don't understand that
even if you go back to like America's Funniest Home videos
or Tosh.0 or things like that
it's really
Basically, or Ray William Johnson, it's all people watching a video and reacting to it.
It's like, I guess like the Tosh.0, though, but like the Tosh Point O would like bring up videos I've never seen.
So it's like, but if it's like, like the first reaction channel that I watched or like knew of was the Zia S and Bilo.
Like when we had those guys fly down and.
They're still.
Other than that, like I didn't ever.
I don't care about people reacting.
Like if it's like I'll go watch it myself
Like new Justin Beaver's song reaction
Like oh there's a new Justin Beaver song
I'll just go search for that
There's there's only like a couple reaction channels I'll watch
Obviously I like Ziaz and Bealoo
The TST reaction
Yeah obviously the TST reaction
I was thinking more along music
But it's so weird
There's a channel called Lost in Vegas
That's like the best reaction channel
And it's two guys because
It's two guys and they are like
some of the most intelligent,
especially when it comes to like hip hop.
Like they just know all the references
without looking it up.
It's fucking mind blowing.
I was watching them,
they did the whole black thought 10,
10 minute freestyle.
And they knew,
they knew like almost at what,
almost every other.
So are they like pausing it?
Yeah, they're pausing it.
And they're like,
they're like freaking out.
Explaining it.
Yeah.
They, the,
like my favorite video probably on the internet
is the Lost in Vegas reaction
to Loaded Lux's freestyle.
because that loaded Lux freestyle.
I need to listen to that again.
That loaded Lux freestyle is the best freestyle of all time.
I don't care what anyone says.
Really?
It's the best freestyle ever.
Like radio or a channel.
Do it is fucking insane.
I feel like I watched it once and then never really watch it again.
I get that.
It's just like his cadence on it because it's not like,
the thing with freestyles is like you can never put them on songs
because they're not like, they're not like easy to the ears.
You know what?
They're not like, like you can't like,
Like, bob your head to them.
But like, if you listen to what they're saying, it's fucking incredible.
Like, the poetry in it is just nuts, man.
I'm so like.
I got to, I know the Black Thought freestyle.
I listen to that a bunch.
And I'm so happy that like, because I know, shit, what group was Black Thought in?
The Roots.
Yeah.
I've never listened to The Roots either.
Like, I always liked their music, thought they were good.
Like, I know Black Thought, because I used to listen to Most Deaf a little.
little bit and like he would have stuff with Black Thought.
Yeah.
And I would randomly hear him be like, this guy's fucking good.
But it's, it was cool to see in this generation that Black Thoughts like, these motherfuckers
think they can wrap.
Yeah.
Dude.
And then he comes up like first take 10 minutes.
No slip up.
And he's wearing a suit and a top hat and sweating his ass off.
Just fucking 10 minutes straight.
Dude.
But it was good to see that like pop off.
Like even the young.
kids are like, what the fuck?
Like, singing with the millions of youth.
His flow the whole time is this.
It's just body bags and elbows and rudder,
running drags and smell.
You know what I mean?
It's just like, where it's like, it's just hard.
Yeah, just fucking bar after bar.
And it's just like double entendres, double meanings.
And then like real shit because he like,
he like came from, you know, like bad parts.
And then he's like talking about how like he like made it in TV and shit.
And like some people think he sold out.
but he's really just getting his fucking money.
Yeah, no, it was good.
It was good seeing that.
I love, I love shit.
That's why I've been listening to, not many people,
I mean, a lot of people say this, but like, if,
if Drake, Jay Cole and Kendrick aren't dropping,
you're not getting that.
It doesn't seem like you're getting that from anyone.
Yeah.
Especially in mainstream,
because no one else in mainstream is like rapping, rapping.
That's why I've been listening.
Lately I've been listening to the new Nause album.
I've been listening to a lot of Benny the Butcher.
A lot of that, like, what's his group, Griselda?
I don't know.
That sounds like something.
Yeah.
I know of Benny the Butcher.
And then there's that one dude with like a, like, fucked up mouth or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know who you're talking about.
But it's those two Conway Conrad, Conway.
I think it's Conway.
Yeah.
It's something like that.
Those three, I think is three people in.
Griselda and they wrap wrap their ass off.
I'm not going to lie.
I don't listen.
Conway the machine.
I don't listen to much like of that stuff.
Like the lyrical shit.
I haven't been either.
I really, I think my next step, because I, because like, I've, I've been likeing that
shit a lot more lately.
It's just like really like listening to like the lyrics and trying to catch the,
the flips and stuff.
like or the double entendres
dude
I think
I think King Lose is the best writer
in the world
dude dude
writer though
but his like
he's one of the best
freestylers
I think he might
he might be the best
free style
maybe Harry Mac
Harry Mac's the best
Harry Mac's insane
he has to
Harry Mac freestyles
without filler
I saw
that doesn't even make sense
yeah I saw
Harry Mac go
I don't know
people in
lot were in line for like, I don't know, fucking shoes or something, but he's like outside.
And he's like, and like, no one knows of him or like knows who he is.
Yeah.
And he just comes from the back of the line.
And like a beat starts.
I don't know what they have for like everyone to hear the beat.
But the beat starts.
And then he just starts rapping from the back of the line to the front of the line talking
about like, in his blue shirt.
It's crazy.
Like that.
And I'm just like, how the fuck?
Like it's one thing to be able to do that every now and again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he does that every single time and he'll do it live in front of people, like one take.
Have you seen like, when he had streams?
He hit like a hundred, or he had like a million views or a million subscribers and rap for 10 hours straight.
Freestyle for 10 hours.
The Vod is on his channel.
10 hours straight of freestyle.
So a million what followers on Twitch?
A million subscribers on YouTube.
Something like that.
It was like something like that.
Yeah.
But it was like, it was either like nine or 10 hours.
Yeah, that's fucking insane.
Because he treats, he treats freestyling how I don't think I've ever seen anyone else treat.
Like he does like training.
He'll go on, he'll go on and he'll like pull up a random word generator and then he'll practice not doing filler.
So his filler, he said his filler was like, yo, it's Harry Mac.
And then he would think.
But he would, he would train himself not to do that.
And my, my, and then so I was like, I was like watching it on stream.
And I was like, wait, what's my filler?
And my filler is like, maybe I'll, and I'll just always say, like, maybe.
Wait, what the fuck is my filler?
Yours is everybody knows.
Is it?
Yes.
Or, yo, it's maniac.
Maniac, maniac.
Motherfucking.
I know I always say motherfucker.
Every time I freestyle, I say motherfucker.
I always.
I always freestyle like every day in the shower or at least in my head.
Yeah, I first style a lot.
But it's always a motherfucking this, a motherfucking neck.
Mine is always like, I'm about.
to or yeah I'm about to
I'm about to hold you
I'm about to make sure that you
I'm about to make sure that's my filler
I'm about to make sure I'm about to make sure
I'm about to make sure that you hold your nose
before we're poof gone like the holy ghost
I'm the motherfucking best but you're the
motherfucking rest that you in your fucking check
I always say motherfucker
you just do it over and over
and over yeah I've been like
I've been like obsessed with it almost
like what freestyle
Harry Max freestyle not Harry
not freest, like, lyrical shit.
Like, rap in general, basically,
but not like, I think ever since
Jay Cole's album dropped, I was like,
I've been into, like, you know what's surprising?
UK rap?
They rap, they rap multi-syllables.
They do.
They rap.
UK drill?
Yeah.
Like, it's surprising how, like,
it makes sense why Drake fucks with that.
Because it's, it's, it's as if you took Atlanta or Chicago drill
and you add in multi-syllables.
Yeah.
That's literally what it is.
Yeah.
Which that's the only thing.
Like, Chicago drill is like fun to listen to, but you can't like, I can't listen to it that often.
Yeah, there's some artists where it's just like.
It's like they kind of wrap off beat and it's just mostly about like the fucking rawness of it.
Yeah.
And it'll just be like one syllable like going, going to the park and I shot that man dead.
Everyone instead of like, man dead, damn, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
shot that man dead everyone knows that i'm getting yeah you heard what i said yeah yeah yeah but like
uk rap is they're rapping almost how like drake rap yeah yeah yeah and then they hit like they
hit it's like the way they hit their punch lines is like they hit it late almost it's like and you know
she's damaged yeah it's like it's like damage it's like the beat drops on damn and then he
goes into edge damage you know we
Batman.
Like that shit like it's so it's I've been listening a little bit of that like who do you
been listening to?
Um, I don't I don't remember any of the artist's names but it'll there's this one fuck
what's this it's like a UK producer and then he'll have UK artists and like his booth
and he'll put on a beat and they'll all wrap.
So it's like I don't really know any of the artists.
Yeah.
But I've been listening to like it's like unknown tea I think is his name.
He always goes listen at the very beginning.
And then he's like a really deep voice, but his shit is hard.
Like it hits hard.
But yeah, I've been listening to some of that too.
The weight, dude, it's like no wonder.
I'm surprised nobody in America like did that before Drake did.
Everybody like talk shit about Drake for like, or like not everybody, but some people were like,
oh yeah, he's culture stealing or whatever.
But like, I'm surprised nobody else has collabed with like.
Like those artists before.
Dude, if you say it's like culture stealing.
No, it's.
I get.
I mean, yeah, obviously.
I know.
Yeah, no one fucking, Drake literally put the UK on the map for us.
Because they've been.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
They've been doing like for America, like nobody, I don't know anybody in America that was
listening to like shit like that.
Like, I remember my first.
The only UK you would hear would be like battle rap.
where you would see like
Elmaculet and the Soros or some
UK books.
First fucking,
what's that guy's name?
Ah, the white dude.
What a UK guy guy?
Yeah, he's so good.
How do I, dude, it's been so long as I've watched.
But he started,
I think he's like a big,
a big guy in, uh, in UK now.
I think he does like electronic music.
But.
I need to warn everyone watching this or listening to this.
I grabbed, um,
some of Hector's alcohol.
It's like some kind of whiskey.
It's probably some nice, expensive whiskey.
And even though I haven't ate today, I was like, no, I'll be good.
And then I was sipping this before the podcast, and I was like, wait a second.
I might have just chalked myself.
You might be drunk.
And then you saw me, or I don't know if it was because the Hennessy jersey.
You know this is the Mob Deep jersey that they wore in like shook ones?
You told me about it.
I don't.
That was about.
I didn't even think of it.
of it being my little flycast album i thought for sure that's what you're going to choose i should
have with this jersey yeah but infinite i mean infinite is good too but i actually know most of the songs
on infinite so it'd be good for people watching the people the younger audience like you need to go
listen to infinite m&m he's i remember what i remember the first time it's kind of like not it's not
corny now, but it's like over,
overused now. But one of the
songs he says, he does like an
AB, he does like an alphabet scheme,
ABC something and I'd rock
the microphone with ease.
I don't remember.
It's like ABCD and then
I rocked them. The punchline was I rocked the microphone
with ease. And I remember I was in high
school when I heard that and I was like mind
blown. You heard in high school?
Yeah. What were you listening to
in like ninth grade?
besides low wayne
Boston
no I started listening
yeah
I guess were you listening to anything
different in
from 9th to 11th
9th yeah yeah from
from 9th until from freshman to junior year
I
only listened
to rock I didn't
listen to rap at all
what kind of rock
like um or I guess his
Classic.
I listened to a lot of classic rock.
My freshman in sophomore year.
And then I listened to a lot of like,
like chili peppers.
Was that the thing in your high school?
Like that to listen to that kind of music?
I basically listened to whatever.
There was a girl I was crushing on.
And she loved the chili peppers.
She loved the chili peppers.
That's funny.
So like all of a sudden I was a huge chili peppers fan.
And like next thing you know, your MySpace songs.
Under the bridge.
Under the bridge downtown.
I remember this girl I liked like the whole like Wonderwall.
Who was it, Wonderwall, Oasis, yeah, yeah.
Like shit like that.
And I was like, yeah, I love that.
That's my MySpace songs.
Start putting all that shit on.
Oasis has some bangers, dude.
I think that's the band that like hates each other now.
Like they've been broken up for a long time.
It's either of that.
It's one of those UK bands that they like literally hate each other.
But they have like,
bangers.
Was there any rap that you would listen?
Like, I remember listening to Meek Mills first, like,
mixtape called Flamers.
And like 2009, like that picture.
Like that at the time when he's, yeah.
Yeah.
When he's like in this, literally still in the streets.
And it's crazy how big he got.
Yeah.
See, I didn't, I would listen to whatever Brandon put on.
And I remember, I remember Brandon put on this, or he brought a CD that he burned.
Dude, how crazy is it?
that people don't burn CDs anymore.
The whole generation now has never burned a CD.
They don't even know what it is probably.
But he was like,
he was like, bro, I promise you everybody's listening
to this new Drizzy dude.
Drizzy Drake, that's what everybody's listening to.
I was like, okay.
And they put on best I ever had.
That was the first time I'd ever heard him.
But as far as like-
Was that on So Far Gone?
I think it was a single off of So Far Gone.
Because I never listened to,
I still, to this day,
haven't listened to that mixtape.
it out.
Wait, what?
You haven't listened to so far gone?
No, no, so far gone.
The one before that.
The one with,
comeback season?
Yeah, yeah, it was like Jodice's freestyle.
Like, is that, is that?
Or I don't know if Jodicee wasn't on that.
That was later.
Oh.
Because that was with like J. Cole.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, no, that was later.
But yeah, Drace had some like pretty good.
Dude, I went to a Drake concert in like 2009.
That's not.
That is.
Yeah, because I remember I was going to go
to a Little Wayne concert.
And in freshman year, but I, but that's where like everyone was going.
It was like, either freshman or sophomore year.
And I was like, I was like, I was like, I really want to go.
But like, there's no way I'm even going to ask my parents.
I know they're going to say no.
So then when everybody was talking about it the next day, it was like a young money tour.
So Drake opened up.
No, Nikki Minaj opened up for Drake who opened up for Lil Wayne.
Like, yes.
Like, Nikki Minaj, back, man.
Before she even had an album.
Because it was before she had an album.
When did Nikki Minaj even fucking come out?
She had that crazy shit.
Well, she had that crazy verse on Monster.
And then she had that really good verse on,
what's that big Young Money song?
Not, not.
A millie?
Not, no, that's not.
No, that's not the, oh, fuck,
every girl in the world, but the other one.
Young money.
What did Nikki Minaj get popping?
Bedrock.
I can make your bedrock.
She had a verse on that.
Really?
And I remember that song.
I don't remember her, though.
I remember that's when I was like,
holy shit, who is this?
Like, she can, like, rap, rap.
Did you ever see the Nicki Minaj and, like, the streets of fucking?
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm thinking of Cardi B.
Cardi B has, like a freestyle.
Really?
She was like a like
Actually really in it
Almost like a 6-9 video
Yeah
Yeah like on the porch
She's like rapping
Yeah
No but Nikki Minaj has like a
Like you ever seen the old meek mill freestyle is like
Right yeah yeah
Like Nicki Minaj
I'm pretty sure
Because I think at the time
Some people were saying that's not Nicky Minaj
Because like she looks a little busted
Like she doesn't have all the fucking fake shit done to her
And the makeup and all that
And she's just like rapping in the streets
That's crazy
And it was still good, though.
I wonder if she ever like, I wonder what it's like being somebody like that.
Because it's like, I feel like when you look at like low Wayne's past or like Drake's past, you can see like the development.
But you can still see that person and this new person.
For Nikki Minaj, it's like, it's like she like changed completely.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like she was, what do people call it when?
industry plant.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, it's almost like she was an industry plant.
Yeah, kind of.
Because she just straight up, it was like a complete
180 of fucking a huge ass, big ass,
makeup, craziness.
She has like split personalities, like,
oh, my goal.
And like all that shit.
And it works somehow.
And then it's like, fucking Cardi B does the same thing,
almost.
It's what it seems like.
Yeah.
It's just wild.
I don't know.
I wonder what it's like to sit down with those people and talk about their past.
Because I feel like you don't see that too often.
You'll see, you'll see it from other people.
See, that's what I like about, even though I'm a Drake Dick Rider,
but like there's videos of Drake freestyling in front of like 30 people in a fucking bar,
wherever he's at.
Yeah.
And he's still like, like you hear that and you're like, damn, this was in 05.
Like, all right.
That's crazy.
And he's still sort of spitting the same way.
Yeah.
Why do you think Drake is so...
I think Drake might have the perfect rap voice.
Yeah, yeah.
I feel like that...
It's a very dick-rider thing to say, but I think you're correct.
Even if you heard that song with somebody...
It's a very dick-rider thing for you to say, but I think you're correct.
I've thought it, I've thought it too.
That song that, you know, you want to waste your time, then waste your time with me.
Yeah.
That song, it's like, it's like that, I forget his name.
I feel bad for not knowing his name, but the actual guy who sings it and then it's a feature
with Drake.
And it's like, he sings the whole time.
And then it's like, it's Drake's verse comes on it.
And you just hear it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're just like, oh shit.
Here it comes.
It's like, I like the lighter flick.
Yeah.
It's funny.
Something I always do in my car when I'm with my girl is we'll be listening to Drake.
And of course, before.
his verse starts he's like yeah and like she'll think it's so like psycho but i'm just like
like he'll do what the song's continuing and i'm just in the driver's seat so like yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah like trying to like perfect i'm like dude how is his yeah so good yeah yeah yeah it's this show
like yeah yeah yeah yeah like yeah yeah like yeah yeah like yeah yeah like i'll hear that and i'm like yeah no
that one no that one yeah yeah
I was pretty, yeah.
No, I tried to do it again.
I'll fuck it up.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
I wonder, dude, have you, I wonder what the first, like, going back to, like, the, like,
well, actually, have you looked, this one was going to ask you, have you looked up, like,
the ghost writing shit?
Like, have you actually, like, looked at what everybody's talking about when they,
well, I know what it is.
It's, um.
Is that, like, six.
I forget his name.
the i've been running through the six with my woes that audio got leaked of i forget his
fucking name um but he just helps people with writing and like hooks and stuff and he recorded that
with his own voice like it's like i've been running through the six with my woes and like drake just
literally took what he said and just put it yeah it's just like it's just like it's just like it's
sounds way better.
It's like crazy how much it got blown out of proportion.
Yeah.
It is like,
Drake's one of the best writers ever.
It is like in,
like,
because like,
it's just kind of like the,
the dent in his armor.
And everyone,
I feel like everyone knows
that it's not that big,
not as big of a deal as everyone's making it seem.
Because there's no,
they want,
they just want to hate on it.
There is no way.
I'm not saying every rapper gets reference tracks of like,
hooks like yo yeah you know
10 bands 20 fans fucking man
and then he's like okay that's a good hook
yeah and then he writes two verses to it
and then puts it out I'm not saying every rapper
does that but there's no
way every rapper
is sitting by himself in a secluded
room writing the whole hook
all the verses like they're with their
boys there and it's like yo give me a
what's a
you know renaissance and they're like
I've been a
you know
get a ton
or something like, you know what I mean?
Like they give them every, well,
I feel like it's a collaborative.
It has to be.
There's no way it's not.
Yeah, it all is.
There's no way it's not.
There's like the crazy rap OGs,
like the Jadicus and the Stiles P.
who were like, nah, if you ain't right at all,
then I don't want to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then like I really.
Which is fair.
Not that they're not fucking with it.
It's that I guess if you're not writing at all,
then you can't consider yourself one of the best.
Yeah.
But I feel like there's so many Drake's songs
where I'm sure he wrote 98% of it.
Yeah.
Like, you know, people are in the studio with him saying like,
nah, instead of saying it like this, say it like this.
So it's like, are you going to count that against him to where?
True.
It's like change your flow from that to day.
But even like the, I've been running through the six with my, like, you know,
Drake didn't come up with that.
But it's like,
who used to say Drake didn't come up with
the other 90% of the song?
Yeah, that's what I mean,
I watched it because I was,
at one point I was just like,
all right,
let me figure out what this whole shit was about.
Because I like kind of,
stupid.
I like kind of ignored it.
No,
like no lie whenever,
because when it first came out,
I was like,
nah,
fuck that.
Because what,
what actually like stung at first was when I found out he didn't
write the first,
it was like the first four or six bars of,
uh,
his,
Rico feature.
And that's when I was like, holy shit.
That shit goes so hard.
I don't really care about songs like that.
Like the random songs where he's like featured or he like stuff like that.
But it's when just the fact that I've been listening to Drake since like 2007 and I've been,
he put out a mixtape in like 2006 and I've been listening to that.
And like he's rapping his ass off back then.
Like I know Drake can rap.
And you'll find other fire.
songs that have
by another artist and it'll be
written by Drake.
Right, yeah.
Like he wrote he writes.
He wrote like Father Stretch My Hands or Kanye
album or like Kanye song.
Yeah.
I think I believe he did.
If you look at every artist shit like they always have the credits at the end and
yeah like written by and it'll be like low dirt blah blah blah and then four four other
five random other people and it's just like who's like who's.
the fuck is that.
Yeah.
Like no one's doing all of this shit.
That wouldn't even be fun.
Yeah, right?
I mean, I think.
That's like saying if you stream with other people.
Well, I don't know if this is a good.
If you stream with other people.
You're not a streamer.
It's like, yeah.
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Because I feel like if you get into that like secluded environment, then you're just
kind of full, you're just kind of around a bunch of yes man.
and then you get into like a really weird like anything you put out as good.
I feel like that's kind of what happened with that like, what was that album that Eminem put out?
Revival?
Recovery?
No, no, no.
The bad one.
It might have been.
Not revival.
Yeah, maybe it is.
Relapse?
No, you're thinking of good albums.
I'm thinking of the really bad one.
Relapse, recovery.
I think it's revival.
It might be, yeah.
It's like a, it's got a plane on it.
And then it came out and everyone trashed it.
And it was just kind of like, well, haven't you been like hunkered down in your own studio for like a year and writing everything yourself and not really like, you know, branching out and collage?
Because I feel like he used to be in the studio with everyone.
I actually do wonder if Eminem has, there's no way on an Eminem verse that he has like anyone.
I'm sure there's no way Eminem writes his own choruses and stuff.
No, no, he doesn't.
But as far as his own verses.
That's true.
Bro, I didn't even think about that.
Eminem has hooks brought to him.
Yeah.
Like that's every, people need to realize every single artist in the world.
Do you think Beyonce has wrote even 20% of her music?
No.
I didn't even think, I didn't even think about that.
Because like, when I walk, no, no, that's Beyonce.
What am I thinking of?
the Rihanna song
where it's like
I'm gonna set this
tired to the bed
set this house on fire
oh with M&M.
Yeah, that song
a different lady wrote that hook
and then he got Rihanna
on the hook and then she wrote another hook
for him and then he was like I want you
to be the main artist on the hook that time.
So like he does shit like that all the time.
That's just how it.
That's just how it is.
Yeah.
like when you're that
it's crazy that
like Drake did the
if I'm running through the 6th with my woes
if he had put
what's that guy's name
I forget the ghost writer's name
if he had put him on the hook
and it said featuring him
instead of Drake doing it
then like this wouldn't even be a conversation
you know what I mean
Drake ghost
what the fuck
is that a train
picking it up
is that a train
where are their train tracks that's what i'm wondering i don't know i think um
quentin miller that's yeah how would you just pull that out of your house i don't know because i
kept thinking rice and tiller but that's somebody else but quinn and miller probably goes for dude that's just
how the industry is nowadays not even nowadays that's how then that's how music works he was uh i don't
want to fuck like if i wrapped i don't want to fucking think of hooks yeah dude hooks
And Drake, you can, well, I feel like I can tell when Drake writes his own, like,
like verse.
Like when I can, you can tell certain songs are solo Lee Drake.
Yeah, yeah.
And I, I just take those songs and I'm like, yeah, like, no one fucks with this.
Like, no.
Yeah.
He's the best.
It's like even the greatest of the greatest rapper of all the time.
Honestly, Eminem's the, I guess the greatest rapper.
It just depends.
It's hard to say greatest rapper.
I feel like Eminem has to be the greatest rapper.
Eminem's probably the best at putting words together, yes.
But sometimes...
So like the greatest rapper.
Sometimes Eminem says...
Sometimes Eminem says some shit and it's just like...
Yeah.
But Eminem has so much shit where it's like you have.
There's like...
I don't know if there's enough shit in the world to talk about.
But like have you listened to...
From Rap God on, have you like listened to much of his stuff?
Because every time Eminem drops an outfit...
album it's just like I didn't when I heard rap god I got pissed yeah I stopped listening to Eminem after
one of his like 2007 album encore or like something like around then like that infinite slim shady LP
Marshall Mathers encore might be like probably missing more like it I really don't like it when he
double times I really don't I think I feel like it's his voice he did some relapses when I
stop listening to him when he's doing some weird fucking like Arabic type voice.
Oh yeah.
I was like what the,
I was like,
what the fuck?
It's because that's how that's what he used.
That's about when I stopped listening to his newer stuff.
Yeah.
That's like what he used to like bend his vowels.
So they rhymes.
Yeah.
So he was like,
how do I do it?
I can just wrap.
He's just been rapping so much where he's like,
hmm,
if I,
how can I change this up a little bit?
It's wrapping a complete different.
It's weird.
I know.
Because it's not.
like he has to have that like slim shady like hi my name is he doesn't have to have that
dialect for it to sound good because his forever verse is insane and it's very easy to listen to
i want to hear m&m just for shits and gigs like just be like yo rap like your rap like it's
2002 yeah like is i'm keeping it raw illegal like malik and jamal yeah i don't believe in the law
like I'm Steven Seagal.
Yeah.
Lippen off the police while I'm leaping the wall.
Take a bunch of Tylenol and fall asleep in the mall.
Dude, that shit is just like a regular, like.
But the thing is, is what when you say he's the best rapper of all time,
I think he's the best technical rapper of all time.
But like everything you just said, like doesn't really make sense.
I'm keeping it raw.
Illegal like Malik and Jamal, whoever that is.
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, none of it really.
Because I don't believe in the law.
Like I'm Steven's a call.
Lippen off the police while I'm leaping the wall.
Take a bunch of Tylenolol and fall asleep in the wall.
It's the best it's the best rhyme scheme that in the the flow like hits so hard.
Beep the ball.
But it's like sometimes whenever he's talking, I'm like, yeah, but what did he just say?
Yeah.
I feel like he didn't say anything, but he just put shit together perfectly.
Yeah.
That's why sometimes like when you hear like the Wu-Tang Foreververse or like, it's like that's, he's saying shit.
You know what I mean?
He's hitting his multi-syllibles, but he's also fucking like.
Yeah.
I noticed that with Drake is he doesn't do.
like multi-syllables in like the beginning of his sentences like he does a whole sentence and then hits
like his sentences are like longer he's not just like multi-syllable it's crazy he does like whole sentences
sort of explaining shit dude listen so this is the k s this is little wayne's verse on the ks i track
and listen to the multisyllables through this dude it is and and the shit that he says uh he says
oh she loves me she loves me not pay patience i'm running out
walking all over me made me her stomping ground baby you fucked around gave me the run around making me
wonder how crazy and dumb i sound taking me up and down baby i'm coming down i need some
extermination nation i'm bugging out stay for another round maybe she'll come around she's gonna have
me turning in my grave when i'm underground that is low wayne that is fucking crazy on i can't
that was ks i's verse
Dude, that is in,
I don't think people understand how hard that is.
In the fact that he's not writing it.
Oh, dude, if he punched in on that, that is stupid.
You know there's like YouTube videos?
Like he doesn't write.
Yeah, him and Jay-Z.
There's like a YouTube.
That is stupid.
It's like a YouTube mixtape.
Low Wayne.
Dude, that is in free scale.
There's something.
to where one day he just took
everything he ever wrote.
Oh, it started like...
Yeah. Is that what it is?
He did an interview where
he went to the studio and he
had everything in his in his binder
or it was like a notebook
and he was wrapping. 10,000 bars.
Oh, 10,000? She thought it was 5,000.
I thought I was maybe, oh, I was
thinking of... 500 degrees?
No, I was thinking of 50 bars
by 50 cent. That's what I was
thinking of. I was mixing those two up.
So he said
dude he said in his uh he said in the interview one time and he might be like exaggerating
but he had his notebook 34 minutes of just of everything he had in his notebook he had his notebook
he had his notebook and then he would rip the pages out and throw him and then he would wrap
whatever else is on the page and rip the pages out and throw him and he said in that studio they
laminated the floor and so it's just the pages on the floor and if he's right about that that's
those gangster shit.
Yeah, especially like back then,
because this was probably when he was like 18 or something.
I mean,
I bet you like go DJ and shit had already come out.
Yeah.
But I know after he did,
I think after he did this,
he never wrote again.
He only,
and he's still.
Only punch.
You know he's one of the best
when even Drake is just like,
like,
there's no outworking him.
There's no really like outwrapping him.
You can't out rap him.
And it's weird because he's just like a dude from just a he's like five five from poverty.
He sort of grew up in the rap scene, but like at like 12, the pool was rapping.
Even his like hot boy's shit and his like 500 degrees like dude.
I'm not going to lie.
Listen to that.
And I'm like, I ain't listening to that shit.
Yeah.
I mean, it doesn't.
But it's still he still wraps like he used.
Like he still wraps like that.
Yeah.
It's still just constant multisyllables that mean shit.
Dude, it's fucking, and it's crazy how much he went pop too.
Not like pop music, but like went popular.
Like there was a time in our, when we were early high school where it was like T. Payne was on every hook and Lil Wayne was on every verse.
Like on every like feature.
Like, dude.
It was crazy when he went to the like lickney.
like the rock lick me like a lollipop type base i remember i was a hater yeah when that shit came out
i was the biggest hater with that because i was the low wayne like just a rapper fan and then he came
out with all the rock the lick me like a lot of pop queen and i was like man low wayne same but it's weird
because now i look at that music and i'm like he was ahead of his time literally ahead of its time
to where it's like i don't understand it so i just have to hate on it because now it's like i mean
Now it's like, Trippy Red and shit like that.
They're doing that all the time.
That's what they do is.
Yeah, literally.
Wrap over rock beats.
It's what it seems like.
Yeah, literally.
That shit's crazy, dude.
Is that what this whole podcast is going to be about?
Well, I mean, we're an hour in and we've only shown to know.
We're an hour in?
What the 52 minutes?
I thought we'd be like 40 minutes, maybe.
I don't know.
What else has happened?
Sorry, I get really into that shit.
No, it's all good.
This is weekly.
So, like, we just got a hell of.
this shit to talk about. What else has happened besides, so yeah. So yeah, what I was saying is the album,
the podcast album of this week is going to be infinite by Eminem. By Eminem. Yep. And you can watch
the documentary Infinite too. Should we even talk about anything else? If you want to.
No. What else is there to even talk about? I don't know, man. Like I don't want to switch. I know there is,
I know I wanted to always talk about like the hook addy situation, the CDL, Addy situation.
Shit.
Cod champs.
If you want.
No.
Yeah.
There's always, well, apparently, well, shit, I get, someone leaked it, right?
What?
Can we talk about the champs might be canceled?
Yeah.
Yeah, we can talk about that.
So yeah, champs might be canceled.
Probably there's rumors going around that champs might be canceled.
Yeah.
Which would really fucking suck.
It's kind of understandable, but I guess they're talking about it being no crowd right now because of, I guess in L.A.
It's apparently COVID's coming back and in L.A., they're a lot more strict right now.
In L.A., you have to wear masks indoors.
So there might not be.
If there's no fans, there should be no champs.
I don't even want to go to chance.
Actually, I'm not going to go to champs unless there's fans.
Right now, it's like myself, Blake George.
Blake's wife, it was going to be her first event, and Alexis, we're all going to go.
But it's like, if there's no fans, like, might as well to save our money.
Like, yeah, I don't know.
Like, yeah, I ain't going on.
Like, there's no reason to go. Really.
That really sucks, man.
Yeah.
But I guess I'm going to kind of be bummed.
It is what it is, I guess. That sucks. Two champs back to back, no fans.
Maybe both champs online because people are saying they might even do it online.
No.
So I'm saying.
It doesn't make sense.
Why the fuck are we going to L.A. for Champs?
If Chances online, I'm going to, I got to figure out something like DDoS.
Just for the culture, I can't see that.
We have to find the B.ZZZ IP.
What is, dude, it's like who in their right mind?
I understand that Champs has most of the time always been in L.A.
Or always been in Cali, except for one random year.
It was in Orlando, I think.
but like every single CDL pro almost 90% of CDL pros live in Texas
Texas has the best internet you don't have to you don't have to pay for flights
you don't even have to pay for flights just have champs here and there's you know
loose restrictions not saying that's like even like necessarily a good thing because
yeah I wonder how they do determine what and where they're going to have it yeah I don't
not here.
Why not here?
It doesn't make any sense.
Like I guess when-
No one cares where champs is.
I guess when they booked it,
it was like...
I mean, honestly,
they're probably booking it like a year in advance type shit.
They booked it when COVID was on its decline
and they thought everything was just going to be wide open.
And now like new variants are coming out and like things are getting a little bit more
tight again.
But they're going to get tight in different places.
Because I think,
here in Texas, the Rangers are always going to be wide open.
I think the FC Dallas, the Cowboys games are always going to be.
I don't think they'll ever shut down again just because of how Texas is.
And it's like, it's kind of like a free-for-all.
Well, my battery died.
Yeah, one of the, we're shutting down here.
We're shutting down here.
I guess we'll figure out or we'll find out what's going to happen with Chance.
I was actually, I was kind of hyped because I was going to be there for a week.
Yeah.
from like the 19th to like the 26 or something.
I was kind of hype for champ.
So if that is canceled,
I mean,
it better not go to online.
Hopefully it's just postponed on anything.
I guess we'll find out.
And then I guess we'll talk about it on the next flycats,
weekly episode.
Weekly episode.
All right, man.
So make sure to listen to Infinite.
You can probably find it on YouTube somewhere.
Yeah, let me know what y'all think about Infinite by Eminem.
Find it.
You'll find it on YouTube.
Keep in mind, it's the mixtape that he gave Dr. Dre, or that made its way to Dr.
Dre and then which eventually led to his success.
That is what happened, isn't it?
So it's like, Dr. Dre heard that and then he was like, and then he gets him in the studio.
First thing he says is, hi, my name is.
Yeah.
It's like what started at all.
And Nick's drunk.
All right.
No, I'm just depressed that like that much greatness exists.
And I wasn't a part of it.
Do we have any outro music?
