The Flycast - IS SHOTZZY THE BEST CONTROLLER PLAYER OF ALL TIME | The Flycast Ep. 120

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

This week we have @Shotzzy on the Flycast to discuss his MVP Champs performance, working out, and the current state of Halo Infinite Esports! OpTic Gaming Merch: https://shop.opticgaming.com/ Check out the OpTic SCUF collection and use code “OpTic” for a discount: https://scuf.co/OpTic Check out the OpTic Podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/optic-podcast/id1542810047 https://open.spotify.com/show/25iPKftrl0akOZKqS0wHQG IS SHOTZZY THE BEST CONTROLLER PLAYER OF ALL TIME | The Flycast Ep. 120 00:00 Shotzzy the MVP, Twitch 07:00 Working Out/Sam Sulek 16:30 Nikocado Avocado 26:00 BO6 Thoughts 34:00 OpTic Halo 49:00 What does Halo need? 52:00 Censor breaking pull up record

We usually started off with a with a freestyle. Really? Yeah. You know? Yeah. Grab. Freestyle. I'll be adlibs.

You'll be adlips. You. I hate when Hitch says that. No, he doesn't. I think I think you've said that. You've only said it to a few gas. I didn't know to say you're kidding. Oh, you said that to Dead Zone.

I was like, what the for? What are you going to start? I actually started beatboxing for Dead Zone. I was like, are you ready? I was sitting in there like, please, shit. Deadstone's like I'm not freestyle I'm actually more afraid of like

them trying Are we recording I'm actually more afraid Yeah I'm afraid of like Like if Deadstone would have like started trying And then just That started being fucking horrible Which everyone

Anyone you ask to freestyle They're gonna be fucking horrible Do you see sketch freestyling? A little bit But I kind of I saw his one freestyle I think it was the first one he ever did and people were like, oh shit,

sketches, like he was kind of like flowing. But then I just saw this other one I think I just saw this morning and I was like, the guy with the dreads, right? The guy with the dreads and the sketches it in the background standing up? I think he was sitting down.

This is not the one I'm talking about. Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about. And I think that just came out like today or something. My glasses are so disgusting. It doesn't even sound like it's him. I didn't get a foot because I... RIP those RIP takeoff You're talking about Bernie I made off

Really got shit and I take up I ain't get fucking something I think I clicked all right about that Yeah yeah yeah Yeah I get that one I was talking about the other one I didn't even see that one Yeah I think that was the first one

The first one like he's got like a weird I never seen the one That just dropped Apparently just just dropped You just put it out Well welcome back to the fly guys Episode 120 we got The man

The mid The legend Did you The prodigy. Wait, did you get, who got MVP at World? I did. The MVP. The MVP.

Call of Duty. MVP. Optic shots he's in the building today. Actually, yeah. Do you get, wait, did MVP get an extra, an extra boost? No, I wish. No. I wish, but EWC did, unfortunately.

They got a. It was kind of fugues, but whatever. That's crazy that. When did they stop doing it? Because I remember that that became a, that became such a. Oh, that was a thing. huh? What?

That was a thing in CWL. Yeah, CW. Like when the guys won the one champs in IW, formal got like

20K. 20K. Something like that. And then, I don't remember what it was. And then Ian was like, well, you got to split it. And Matt was like,

yeah, I'll split it. And then never split. Fuck now. And then he brought it up in the inner circle and he was like, dude, we got to talk about, we got to talk to Matt

about the, Oh, he was like still salty about her. Not like salty, he just kind of, it's been so long that he just kind of like casually brought it up. And then Matt was like, are you talking about the money? Y'all aren't seeing that shit. It was actually pretty funny. Wait, do you get anything for MVP? Back then, that's what we're talking about.

Back then you did, but not anymore. Like, not like a little trophy. You got a trophy. Yeah, something like, I'm too crazy. Hell, yeah. Do you ever consume the video we were watching earlier? Do you guys ever actually watch their streams? I feel like all you live and breathe is Call a Duty.

What do you watch? Nate shots, scub, Zuma, Zinny or something. And the only reason, or is that I ask is because what's surprising about Seth? Like, I don't think people know this, but like when Seth is not live and he's like walking around, he's watching Twitch almost at all times. Yeah. Like on his phone, he'll have media. When we have content here, he's.

sitting there with his phone sideways watching he's he'll have the boys he'll have Nate stream up or if he's like happens to be playing World of Warcraft he'll have a he'll have a wow stream up whatever he's doing he'll have a Tarcoff stream up if he just started playing Tarcove

like at all times he's he's got a stream up and it's like some shit. I don't even live in really Caled Union so what do you watch what do you watch what do you do so usually I like if there's sports I love sports Really?

NBA, NFL, this one go to. Really? MLB. NFL? Yeah, NFL's got it. Who's your team? The Cowboys. But that's because, like, I'm in Texas.

Before it was the Niners. So, wherever you move, you're just, fuck that other team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. I'm locked in now. Like, are you, like, watch every Sunday? Like, you'll be I got no stream today. For yesterday, I locked in. I locked in and watched the game yesterday.

Sunday, I was streaming for, like, the Halo thing, so I couldn't really watch. Like, I had, like, the, I think I had, like, the Bail's game on the side because that was a really good game. And then, yeah. But other than that, like, for streamers, I used to, I used to watch, like, a lot of Enros

back when he streamed. Oh. On Twitch. I mean, hell, yeah. On Twitch, whenever. You were Aiden Loyal? That's what it's called it is. No, when he was blowing up,

when he had, like, a lot of guests on his stream, like, fucking, I can't even remember. But he had, like, he had, like, hell of artists and stuff. That motherfucker was, he was running shit. No, he was. Completely. He was actually running shit And then obviously he got banned

You know He started streaming on kick and I mean I watch like every once in a while But I don't really I don't really go on that website a lot So yeah I mean either On Twitch Kick Or Kik whenever he went back to Kik

Yeah But I mean other than that I don't really watch like A specific streamer to be honest Who do you watch it? I don't really watch streams I usually just watch like I watch a fuck ton of YouTube videos like

always and whatever like if I find something that I think is like interesting I'll click on it and then it like runs my for you page there yeah is there like a genre a lot of college football stuff right now but also I clicked on a blooms tower defense video shit looks lit dude

have you ever heard a blune's tower defense I was playing that on stream to like warm up every every time I'd start my stream I would try to play it and like beat it and it'd be I'd be getting the worst advice from chat. Dude, it was actually kind of fun though. Dude, there's, there's like a community, dude, there's so, it's crazy how many communities

there are out there. There's a guy making, like, Mr. Beast style videos, like, how many, what, what level do I get to if I only use the base, like, only use this tower? And, dude, they have got, like, millions of views. Like, what? Millions of views. And now, it's, of course, I click on two of them. It's, like, my whole fucking stream.

it's like my whole for you page it's just like blunes tower defense and college football i'm probably the only person in the world where it blunes tower defense videos and college football videos i watched like a lot of like gym vloggers and

random nutrition podcast what sea bomb no the big the big dude that guy oh sam solick yeah

dude that guy is everything i wish i wish I was. The way he does his videos first off it's impressive in itself

that like do you know his style of video have you watched any of his videos yeah I watched a you're right right foot

right foot right foot right foot I watched a podcast of uh Colin to Samir talking about Sam Sallick and apparently he makes

like old school style videos Yeah. Like he just talks. It's very a notch-out. It's no like there's no, yeah, like no, no hitch stuff to where you go, set the camera down, walk past it. All he does is he wakes up, sits down with his fucking big bowl of cereal, talks for five minutes. Then he's like, all right, now we're going to head to the gym.

Then he gets in his car, rants for another 25 minutes, and he's in the gym. He's not, like, there's no editing. there's no music it's just him lifting the weights all the shit's like 50 minutes long like an hour long like even when he's lifting like it's not like there's no there's no sick edits there's no filters it's just him lifting with the mic on his chest and you just hear like he is fucking huge and people just i mean and i kind of like it too but honestly i can't watch the working out parts because i'm just immature and i can't just like listen to his

Like it's just too much for me. Then he poses, then he drives home and it's like, that's his whole fucking, I'm like, that's so nice. He just poses every day. But it's like, how does he not lose shit to the word? How does he find shit? There's always, he's always fucking ranting. He always says, he goes off on rants for 25 minutes out of time and he's so good at it. Just about what?

About what, about anything or is it always working out shit? I think it's always working out pretty much. Really? Or just the lifestyle around working out or... I'm sure he... It's just... It's all around that certain type of stuff. Well, how come a lot of people...

Because, like, whenever I first knew about this guy, a lot of people were, like, concerned about his health. You know what? Well, he used to have, like, hella back acne. And his face was all scarred up because he was taking, like, like, if some people's bodies react differently to steroids, like, some people...

You might not even have a physique that, like, everyone knows a kid in middle school basketball who is just like they got ab, like I show speed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That motherfucker's always been lean, tone, abs. It looks like if he hit the weights hard as fuck, he would blow the fuck up. Does speed work out? I don't think so. What the fuck?

I think he just, yeah. He's just a freak. There are certain people like that. So you would assume if he took steroids. He would blow the fuck up. But some people don't. Someone could just look like a little dweeb, but their body might respond to steroids insanely.

Like some people might be big as fuck naturally, but their bodies don't respond to steroids all that well. But Sam Solick, I guess the way his body or whatever he was taking, it gave him so much fucking acne. And I don't know if that's a sign of his body, like not responding well to it or something. like Chris Bumstead's body responds fucking amazing to it if you guys knew who Chris Bumstead is

I think he's won the Olympia five times in a row now or something but he's like a YouTuber as well but yeah everyone was worried about Sam Solic because his acne was so bad he would just sit he'd be sitting there doing his rants and then you just hear like like you hear like that kind of like under breath

and then you and then you You look at the guy and they're like, yeah, he's 21. You're just like, what the fuck? Oh, yeah, he is. I think how old Sam Solic is? Like, 23 now? He's fucking young. He's 20.

And there was pictures of him like 18 years old. Just like acne fucking biggest shit. Oh, so he's not. I thought the thing, I mean, I'm very. I think the left. I'm very ignorant. Second row left picture, that one? Yeah, like look at us the acne scars and shit.

And I'm not trying to like acne shame him. I'm just saying there was a while where people, there was a lot of talk about his health and shit. I thought the thing with him was that he was natural, but I'm guessing he's not. Fuck, no. Dude, I'm so immature. I'm so immature.

I'm so like, I don't understand. Ignorant. Ignorant. Yeah, I'm so ignorant to this whole, like this whole scene. Because I remember you said the guy in Austin's fucking natural. And I was like, what? Nick Bear? Yeah.

He, bro, I was, I follow him. Yeah, because he's like a hybrid athlete, which is like kind of what I'm trying to be. But he's fucking, especially, click on the middle one top. Yeah, either of those two. But this motherfucker, I think he's natural. but I will say over the past like two or three years it's gotten to the point where I'm like I don't know like he doesn't

back in the day he used to show his blood results he'd be like my test is 400 like I'm not obviously if your test is at 400 you're not fucking knowing anything he was like I just but he goes hard every single day his diet's been dialed and he's been doing this for like 12 plus probably since like college I really fuck

with his videos so it's like of course he's built but people and I was literally watching a video of him yesterday and Michelle I was talking to Michelle I was like I don't know if this motherfucker's natural anymore he does he does it just like the first time I saw him I was I remember telling you like well or I remember you saying he was natural and I was like what well he used to like respond to people he would do blood work in his videos just to like prove like hey you fucking idiots I'm not it's called hard work pussies yeah I'm assuming that's in his

He's like the nicest. I'm assuming that's what was in his... He's like the most uplifting YouTuber. That was in his head though. You know that. Yeah, it probably is. But... Yeah, that was back then.

I feel like now he just kind of like avoids... Talking about it. Yeah, or maybe it just got to the point where I've addressed it. So, like, am I just supposed to keep addressing this? Probably... But I was watching a video of him yesterday. He was so lean and vascular and jacked and... And hot.

I don't know. You look... Have you ever bought any of these products or no? Yeah, I actually... Literally. Or actually, no, this isn't. This is electrolytes from a different company. But, yes, pre-workout.

His G1M sport, he takes a lot for running. It's like an 80-calorie, like quick carb. Just like powder, you pour in a drink. Yeah. I think it's really good for running, especially if you're going to do, like, longer runs. Instead of... I don't know about you, but I'll get, like, cramps and shit in my stomach

if I eat before I run. So he has like a quick digesting carb supplement that you just put in your drink, like two scoops. I think it's like 80 calories each, just quickly digest, good for running. I use this pre-workout. Yeah, I've bought a few things from him. I try this protein. I didn't really like it.

All the guy has is creatine and then the redden and greens. Like when other. Oh, yeah, the red and the greens. Yeah, that shit tastes like ass. Really? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's not. gonna taste amazing especially if you do it right and don't add like greens holy fuck that show

are you are you are you that type of per i can see you as being that type of person that like didn't like their greens like like actual vegetables yeah not so like if it's like mixed up like a kind of a i can see i see him as like a chicken tender hot dog pizza guy no that is actually though yeah well you didn't know about that's diet stuff Dude, when we go When we go to an event We'll go to like Nobu

And then And then And then Pays will be like Well I gotta get chicken fingers For shots here Well not No I actually don't get chicken fingers I get like

Like pizza's like my go too Like for sure Definitely pizza Like no boo pizza Um I actually started like sushi Shushi more Surprisingly

Did you used to not like it? Yeah I didn't I didn't like it at all I fucking hated it Did you Not like it Before you even tried it though because I used to say

ew, like I don't want sushi But then I tried it I was like what the fuck No sushi's amazing But I tried sushi But the thing that would always Throw me off is avocado Now I just get no avocado

And it's like pretty good Dude Really? Have you seen this shit That's happening with that avocado guy Oh my god Yeah Oh my way

Matt's not Those steps ahead Matt's not at this setup I'd never even heard of them before What? What? Yeah I used to like

Watch his shit What really? I mean like Kind of Like if this shit If this shit popped up I'd just I would watch it to get mad

Mad's back at the setup Can you look up the Nick O'niko avocado guy I'd watch it to get mad Dude So like Somebody Give me run me down

Run it down Run me over With a car You wouldn't know more He was He started out as like Average size Skinny YouTuber

And then he starts Doing these food challenges So what was he doing before? I don't even know. I might have just, I think he was already like a like a nutrient, like a food creator, but I don't know what the fuck, I don't know. So the food stuff just starts popping off

and he understands the more fucking pathetic and disgusting I make this, the people just eat it up. Views on views, comments, every video's going viral. So it started from him just eating like a fat pig. to just shaking his like he'll just be

he'll like be throwing stuff in a blender with his shirt off just like shaking his fat stomach and just tries to make it as gross as possible he did that for I don't know

it might have been years or something I don't know really I saw wait the second video would be the one where he revealed he hasn't made a new video in two years

so he started making all these videos they're popping off blah blah so he apparently he pre-recorded two years worth of videos pretty much

while he lost like 250 pounds he pre-recorded all these fat videos that he knew would get views what the fuck? And then people are like

what the fuck happened like where did he go? What's going on? I hope he's... These videos banged. I hope he's okay and then he comes back skinny as fuck

I'm always two steps sad bro dude that shit is crazy and he was saying like how watching people in the comments and like arguing and talking shit

and trying to bring him down he was like it's like watching it's like watching my ant farm just watching you little ants oh so he's a sociopath it's fucking it's kind of scary but I remember like the

I'm always too No, I think I saw a clip of that blue talkies Video and it like made my skin crawl Bro, it's so gross It was like disgusting I forgot about this shit I think Aubrey watches this on some weird show Bro, we need to do one of these

Why don't we do this for an optic video? Me and you eat some boy We just need a thumbnail like one of these Of us making out The second one Yeah We need a thumbnail now.

Just like that. Holy shit. Wait, click on that one. Look how big he is. And then he's coming back like jokes on you. Jokes are new. And everyone's just like, you got fat, destroyed your health, felt like shit for years. But the jokes on us.

Okay. So what does he do now? Is he going to still eat bad? I mean, he made a... Click, on that video and see just what he talks about in the beginning. Unmute it.

Two steps ahead. I love this shit, though. I am always two steps ahead. This has been the entire... Also, pause it. The mask he's wearing, there's a famous

YouTuber, there's a famous female YouTuber, I think. Her husband keeps his identity why can't I think of a word that and that yeah hidden yeah keeps his identity hidden with that and he's been known

I think to like stalk her or fuck with her what? And this that's from like years ago I think and he returns with the exact same hat that her husband that's what yeah that's what he uses I mean he is

he even has pictures of like yeah that's what he uses to hide himself and he, Nico Avocado, I think, has been known to, like, kind of harass her, and he comes back to YouTube wearing his husband's... Oh, so the way her husband's... This guy's like a weirdo. I hides his identity. It's fucking insane.

What? I didn't know it got that deep. Holy shit. No, I can't believe how excited that it just got me. That is fucking... That's really weird. Like, this weird fucking shit is just so funny to me. And then wait, what is he actually?

True entertainment right here. So what does he actually do in that video, Matt? I think he just eats the noodles like a freak. Oh, dude, this is... But I just want to meet him and see if he'd be like, whatever. Oh, so he's like still, he's still like doing his thing. He's still like shoving food in his mouth. I guess he's going to return and start doing that.

Bro, if he does it again, dude, holy fuck. shit kind of inspired me. Really? Yeah. I might have took an edible last night and then like I was like looking at all this stuff. And I was like, damn, what if I came up with like a, I forget the idea. I was thinking like 10 years. Like you did something.

You did something for six week stream challenge. But I was thinking of like I. What if I just found a sponsor for this insane 10 year plus video? And I swore I had a good idea last night I can't even think of it But I was like that kind of like I don't know I just like that kind of stuff Even if there's like no fucking point to what he did

He's like he's calling us ants And even like what's the point? But like you got fattish shit You were disgusting You hurt your health significantly Now you probably have crazy loose skin So it's like what you mean We continue living our lives

like wait if you go to the video it doesn't even look like it doesn't even look he has like bad uh what loose skin no in the face no even in his legs no but i bet his stomach's all his stomach has to has to have i mean 250 pounds is just crazy that's how wait that's how he was that's how much he lost that's how much oh that's how much he lost 250 pounds which is insane but just to like pre-record everything while you're losing weight and then plan this like disappearance and then return oh no i just of fuck with it. No, I like the idea. I just don't know what the point was.

Yeah. Like, see, in his sociopathic head, there's, there is a point. And it's that he's just better. If he came back and was like, I'm always two steps ahead, now watch my fitness journey. And then he starts, like. Like doing some insane stuff. Some do an insane, like, fitness challenges after doing eating challenges, then I'd be like, oh shit like that that there's the point there but i don't know what the point of being like

i lost all this weight now you guys are idiots like what i wonder i wonder how you lost that shit ozempic really that's the fucking i'm tired of every every dude the internet is such a fucking hateful if you lost weight it's ozepic if you are in decent shape you're on t r t or fucking trend everything that everything that comes out in the internet what like

whether it's a per like whether it's an accomplishment that a person has done or like any sort of media like a movie or a game or anything it is immediately

shit on immediately like when was the last time something had overwhelming like positive reviews besides Eldon what's AX's game

Xify it you hop in on X to fight Yo, stream X-Difiant. Oh. Why? I was hating on it. Yeah, I was going to say you are the hater there.

Yeah, I was. But I'm not even hating because, like, why was I? I forget. It's been too long since I even streamed and shit. I don't even fucking remember what I was talking about when I was streaming. But I was just, everyone was just like, yo, X-Difine, X-D-Fi.

Play X-Ex-Fiant. I was like, dude, this game's going to come out, and it's going to be dead within a month. and I actually don't like it's Akes's Akes works for the game like it would be cool if it was successful and really good like I'm not trying to even like spread

hate on it but it's just I kind of just I've seen that so many times yo this game's coming out fucking gonna be sick and then it comes out and it's just like it's it's the same cycle same shit with Black Op 6 yeah

this game nah this one's it man we ain't had something like this in eight years I just said every time something comes out people hate on it and then Nick did it with three things immediately

like immediately as I talk about why every comment on the internet you're just 180 how are you like No black ops six looks We asked Kenny has you even played it Did you like it? Did you just

raw dog the beta the whole time? Dude I just played the whole thing You love that shit I know everything not uh it's cool because they add to like a different element to like any any game that i've played because every other game it's legit w as d right and analog stick it's up down left right whereas if like omni it's like you legit control your fucking character any direction you go it's like bottom left it's going bottom left you know what i'm saying it's going to diagonal directions

left right um and not only that you could literally slide and shoot at the same time and i feel like a lot of people don't realize that like every other con you could slide and shoot but the thing is you wouldn't be able to like aim in in in this game you could actually aim in while you're sliding so it kind of looked pretty turnt but uh yeah and i i enjoyed the beta i think it was fun ain't halo kind of like that uh yeah yeah like if you do like a long slide or whatever you can like shoot while you yeah true i saw a clip of brandon playing and he was like yo aunt you do all the you do all the turnt shit i'm just gonna iron yeah That was fucking hilarious.

And I think, do you think that'll be able to happen, or do you think it's going to get cracked? I feel like, I feel like at first it's going to, this is how it is every game. At first it's going to be like, all right,

you know, it's going to be pretty cracked or whatever, and then, like, eventually it's to a point where, like, the meta is going to be set and everyone has to do that. And I think it towards the end,

it'll be legit, everyone flying around, fucking ARs diving around. Oh, really? You think it'll be like that? Yeah, just because, like, the maps are pretty small,

bro, I'm not going to lie. Like, The maps are... They're, like, medium maps or, like, small, in my opinion. Because, like... Yeah, I remember they said it to us at Codnex. They were like, we've noticed that people enjoy the small maps. Like, the only maps that, like, transcend and, like, go down in history as the best maps are, like, medium-sized maps.

So we have no large maps, only small and medium maps. And then I was like, okay, I like that as long as they're all, like, standoff raid, high-rise style. like that that medium dog there's not they're all tiny they're all tiny really yeah like one of the big maps are like a small map even the the the you remember like the monitor for two maps probably the best way for them to like show off movement too every fight you're getting into is around the corner do you remember the model for two map estate there's like a building in there i have to see it well regardless can you pull it up man one of the one of the maps one of the One of the maps, do you remember this map?

Like the... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the house up there? I hated this fucking map. Yeah, no, a lot of people hate this map. But the house up there, there's a map that's like the size of that house. And it's like the... Are you talking about Skyline?

Skyline. Dude, Skyline is like a house. It is a house. Yeah, it's literally... It's just a... The whole map is a house and the parking lots. I kind of like that. no it's it's nice

but it's just cracked and it's just like twisted at all times I I just hate how it's just and like slide cancel after in every fight

I'm not doing his button every second no no they definitely got to change that I don't know why they they went to like this tax sprint and the slide canceling like I don't know why they don't know why they don't go to like

that blackouts for where you would like slide aim in and it would basically do the side cancel for you and then like when you would sprint you wouldn't have to click it twice you just click it once tax print I don't really understand tax print so stupid I don't understand all that stuff I liked I liked Cold War's movement cold war I mean it was it was normal it yeah I think the side canceling I think you would have to just aim it yeah I don't know I play ATSS I played ATSA because sometimes I'll be like do I just I like I just I like I know this motherfucker's afraid. Do I, or do I try to look?

Like, it just makes me, it gives me two options for every single fight. And I, like, just don't like that. It's like, do I slide cancel around this corner and try to gun him? Or do I just iron slowly around this corner? So did you play, like, did you unlock everything for all the guns and shit? Or you just run the jackal? No, I only ran the jackal, the Tonto, I think it was called. Okay.

And then the C-9. Yeah, unlocked everything. Oh, so you just ran the subs. Yeah, no, yeah, literally, I did not run any. You were twisted. Because I'm never going to pick up that fucking error. Because I brought, actually, well, the air is actually good now, I'm pretty sure. After the nerve, because the second beta, the second release, they nerfed the subs a lot.

Dude, the AK was, the AK was kind of slamming. Yeah, I think the AK is, like, the best error now. And then the sub, I don't even know what the fuck the best sub is. They're all dog shit in my opinion. Besides maybe the, what? Besides maybe the Tonto. Have you played the new way? Have you played the second weekend?

No, I didn't even touch it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I played with the Tonto at Codin X. Yeah, the first weekend, it was the best shit. Second weekend, they nerfed everything. They nerfed the jackal? Yeah, they even nerfed the jackal. Dude, there were...

They both to C-9-1-1-1-1-1-1-6-map. Fourth map in, it's 12 jackals on the... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, dude... It was bad. It was bad. They did never... Like, everyone was running different shit.

Like, if you played the second weekend, everyone was running an AR... I actually don't mind skill-based matchmaking. like a lot of people i mean i i think it's bullshit but like but like you're never going to win that fight so like at this point yeah what does it matter like why are we still talking about it but i will say there's no way that i was going to hop on that second weekend of the beta and just try my absolute best at all times for no reason like you're not you're fun you don't get you don't get to you don't get to you don't get to keep your unlocks when the game comes out you don't get to

progress. Like you get nothing. Like you just spawn into the same four maps and just like call out. Go, go, go. Boom, boom. He said, one one shot top, one shot top skyline. Like, what the fuck? What are we doing? No, that is facts.

But it does seem like people were fucking gaming. What does it seem like the meta is going to be two, two ARs, two subs? Or is it just two or maybe three subs? Well, no, I might be three subs. Really? Yeah, just to the maps are so small. It's kind of like, uh, it's kind of like Guardian is literally the best way to play.

Do they not have a plan of like, oh, but when the game drops, four to new maps or, man, really? We don't know what the other maps are. Could be three subs. The only maps that we've played are the ones from Codnext, which are, they're all small. They're all small. I like, I like the maps, but they're all tiny. How yeah.

Kenny would a sub? I literally, I hope there's a, dude, imagine there's a three, I hope there's a three gun meta. Three guns, three gun metas are the best. That would be We talked about it last week The best shit Yeah

Madox, ICR fucking Sugg Wow, that shit banged Anette Specialist As a beer perspective

That game was Godlike I think I liked the IW IW meta too Did you ever

Play that Yeah, you played I Yeah Yeah I put it Like with the NV4

The K bar And the ERA Like that shit was That shit was Yeah Yeah Yeah

Yeah Bro that shit You literally You could fucking You could fucking You could fucking bounce

Bullets on the walls Couldn't you That show was crazy Only in pubs, right? Oh, it was only in pubs? Yeah, I think they took that out in competitive. Because I remember a clip.

I remember a clip of T.J. Halley and one of the kickoffs, literally looking at a wall, shooting a whole clip into the wall, and it bounced and killed a guy behind a couch or something. They definitely should have. They probably didn't. What's going on with the HALA team, man? They keep in the second, bro. That's your team beating us.

That's your team. Yeah, they keep saying, you know, they were saying, it's Fays and Vanguard. Or, yeah, Vanguard. You know they play second, every fucking... Wait, have we really gotten second at every event? This year? Yeah, literally.

Like online as well? Maybe one, I think. No, no, no, no. They won online. Yeah, they won online. But as far as the lands... It's crazy, bro, because that team... I'll take a second.

The team that beat us, fucking S-S-S-S-G, they keep in this or whatever? Like, they were supposed to lose. It was 40... I think it was 48 to 46 against Cloud 9. They're down. And the last map and losers. You see that?

Game 5 versus Cloud 9 SSG was about to get Top 12 48, 40 what? 48, what? I'm pretty sure it's 48, 46, cloud 9 was up

they only need two more kills and then I'm not gonna lie I don't think they got a kill they just broke the fuck down I'm real, they legit piss her pants You see skeptifies If we check his fucking trousers Like yeah

It was probably yellow I promise him Yeah Did you see skeptifies POV With like sniper? Wait, what was he like? No, I just thought they can, like, uh. I feel bad.

Like, you could tell. That was such a, like, and I feel bad for him because people, because Mani dropped the sniper for a skeptify. I didn't know that. Mani dropped the sniper for skeptify because, I mean, whatever, online screams, he's probably, like, shitting with it. Maybe he's their best sniper. But then you could just tell, like, when he had it. I don't even know. I don't even, I wouldn't even say he was, like, tweaking, would you?

It was 48, 46. and they had snipe. Yeah. I feel like the way that I was looking at it, if you, yeah, you probably can't feel like.

Like, it didn't seem like he completely failed until like the end when he went into the rat tunnel and then pulled out his bandit with, they only had four bullets in it.

Then he tried pulling out the sniper over and then. I was like, oh my God. Like, if that was me, I would have been like, I just fucking blew it. That would have been my exact response

if that. Maybe we can find the clip. It might be on Twitter or something. No, they basically should have won. They just show feet. Really. That's just an experience thing, dude. I feel like if they've gotten in that moment, like,

I did not know. Yeah, literally, they had to, like, you could tell from the moment that C-N-I had the lead, and then it was kind of like, no one was fighting for, for, like, 30 seconds. And then it was, like, SSG started putting pressure on them. Like, they're down by two, and SSG's putting pressure on them,

poking at them, and it was just like, It was just like, okay, SSG has a plan here. Yeah. And then Cloud 9 is just from their POVs, like one of them's over, like everyone's just sort of scattered around. You don't, no one's really doing damage. It just, it looked bad. They just simply, I think, got outplayed from the team like,

like, team SSG is just better. But there are instances where you aren't the best team, but you can still pull out wins. And that would have been one for Cloud 9. It actually happens to a lot of HIL-Infinite, which is kind of surprising. I'm not going to lie. Dude, Halo Infident is so swinging. How many times?

And it seems like our team is always getting... Dude, it's like the opposite of the Cod team. No offense, but sometimes you guys go down big, and then you're... And then you climb your way out of it. They go up big. And then it's just like, okay, guys, close it, please. And then all of a sudden, Stellar runs three maps in 15 seconds. Or three flags in 15 seconds.

And you're like, what the fuck? Fuck. How? Dude, did you see... Hey, it is a little to watch, though. Oh, no. I love Halo. I love watching Halo Infant. Dude, did you see how Stellar ran that last flag? Yeah.

Dude, he was mid-gunfight, stopped shooting and pulled the flag and capped it. It was the fastest flag run I think I've ever seen. What, Matt? I forgot. I didn't... That little Argo, no, no. Argo? Is that the small one?

Aquarius. Aquarius. Aquarius. The blue one? I don't know I was tuning in and out but they are I just don't

how long did you team with ECO I think I'm gonna hash you this I think two years I'm pretty sure Are you an Eco hater? I'm not an Eco lover because I feel like Eco is what I should have been Like I should have been I heard you say that about Royal 2

No Royal 2 I will never have his skill So he's on his own Eco, I feel like it's the strangest, and motherfuckers aren't talking about this enough. I was talking about it. Eco is the strangest player to ever exist. I've heard many people talk about it.

He seemed, if you put on his POV, you would just think he's a decent Halo player. But like, it's something about him to where, like, in crucial moments, he's not missing those shots. Sometimes his shot, his shot isn't, looked at as like a fucking snipe down a formal elucid. He's just, you almost think of him as just like a fill in

smart player. But it's just gotten to the point where this dude has made every team he's on be able to win events. He's been getting top three for six years. But you watch this BOV there's like barely any movement

going on. He's not hitting the like curb slides like that. He's not like, he's the least flashy player I've ever seen. He ain't picking up snipes. He ain't. It's just... But he just somehow...

He'll have these, like, powerhouses around him, like fucking shotsy and bound. But he knows how to, like... Facilitate them. Yeah. Is he the new age? Like, yeah. No, that's facts.

And I feel... Because I feel like... Is he, like, the leader of the team? See, the IGL? Yeah, I mean, he kind of just controls him. Like, he kind of just, like, reminds him, like, just what to do. And I think they trust.

They trust him. So put yourself in their shoes down to Cloud 9, 46, 48. Is he just, like, calling out exactly what the next play is going to be? Yeah, I think he did it. I'm pretty sure. Because, like, based off, like, the way I looked, I'm pretty sure two of them just fucking flew top mid to their base. And, well, I mean, I'm sure in that moment, like, everyone's probably fucking antsy and, like, they're probably calling out. More than not, he's definitely the one that, like, is trying to.

Because, like, thinking about it in his shoes, like, he legit doesn't have to do crack shit. He is bound, legend doing all the fucking insane shit Cellar's not missing a bullet He just has to sit there, yo, let's just do this, yeah All right, fuck slam these idiots Because even when I would play, I'll play eco and matchmaking And it's, well, matchmaking, I'll play stellar And matchmaking and I'm like, this kid ain't shit

But like, because they're just like trolling They're not playing hard as fuck But like when they drop, even when they drop dead zone And when SSG was going to drop someone I thought they were going to drop Eco Because I was like, Eco's just like the least skilled. And I don't know if I'm wrong or if I'm not watching enough or if I'm like, I've only seen his screen because he like doesn't stream.

So like you never really see his screen unless it's at a tournament. And I'm just like, you never see him like doing anything fancy getting crazy snipes or went in a crazy fight hitting someone with a strafe and then a curb sliding and then run flag fast. You just never see any of that out of him. And I felt like with Penguin or with Dead Zone, you did see some of that. And I was like, maybe, oh no, I just thought Eco would have been the person. And I'm not even trying to hate it.

It's just like, it's just so, he's so mysterious to me of how the fuck he's hanging with, like, he's on a team with these absolute beasts. But then like the game ends and he'll have like the most or second most skills in the game. at like a game four to beat optic like he's playing against optic like the other best people in the fucking world and the fact that he can he's not only keeping up but playing as well as he is in winning on top of it i'm just like i don't fucking understand what's going on i know it's been a while at this point it's been a couple like a year over a year but are you guys surprised that

whenever Faze replaces T.J. with Renegade that they didn't go on like a I was very surprised. Yeah. Because I mean, they're the defending champions. They're the world,

they're the world champion, the current world champions. So it's not like they're doing bad at all. And them and SSG have been trading off Ws because our team, you know, has been getting second. So,

but dude, I thought, I thought for sure that team was gonna just... I literally thought HALO was over. They picked up Renegade and I was like, well, like that might be it for HALO for a little bit. Yeah, once they got their first win, I think like they formed and then like a one line thing

or something they might have got fourth or... Like, it wasn't like they formed it. No, it wasn't immediate, yeah. But once they got that win, and I think they did it in like dominant fashion, I was like, this is when it starts. Yeah. This is when they just...

start winning everything. I legit that was going to happen. I remember before it even happened that it was a potential and I was like, damn, this shit's going to be fucking insane. I think I asked you this last podcast or some shit.

Who would you, you go back to Halo, who's your team? Honestly, just fucking SSG and replace whoever the fuck. Who you replacing? That's an intense question. Down, eco, stellar legend. do you have to replace Eco or does he go form a fucking team that's gonna crash you

I'd probably say bound but damn but not he's gross like they're all gross they're all gross as fuck I would say bound only because like me and him have like similar or legend either or

you would replace bound or legend damn just because we have similar you tell me about Eco real quick what you thought he was gonna say eco well I just

this is the I swear to God I'm not even I think I think Eco is a great player. Like, he was... He's obviously the clue. He is obviously the clue. I don't know.

The best way to put it, bro, is whenever you're like, you're individually skilled, right? Like, obviously, like, I know how to play the game, right? Halo 5, like, I knew what the fuck I was doing. The only thing is that, like, you don't second guess yourself

when you have, like, a person like Kevin or your team. Like, he's always, like, constantly remind you, like, yo, let's do this, stuff like that, right? He's always small talking with you. And, like, when you have a teammate like that, you kind of just, like, are able to focus on your own game. And I feel like,

that's kind of how stellar bound legend like they legit are just playing essentially their own game and like just fine yeah and they have kevin like reminded them like yo let's do this this rather than like if you replace someone like that i feel like the the vibe just or not the vibe but like the team cohesion isn't like the same you know do you ever have had a uh teammate like that in cod yeah yeah most definitely fucking uh fucking And I'd say Clay was up there, Ily. That, like, makes you play better? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I say Ken right now for sure.

I feel like Ken is very, like, underrated with that. Yeah, I feel like, even with me and Halo, I would, I remember I team with, it was me, Demon D, snipe down in Heinz. And then we ended up dropping Heinz and picking up Tizoxic. It was me, Demon D, sniped down, and Tizoxic. We didn't lose a game ever. online. We went to the TLN event

or the land network, played all the top teams. We're just fucking running through kids. And then of course at the event we just fucking choke at like top six or something. But I just, I never felt like I'm teaming with Demanditizoxic and Snipdown in 2010

those were like some of the best players in the game. Like those, that was the legend. Yeah. Yeah. So what was my fucking point with this? You were the I was the eco. Well, wait, what the fuck was my point with this?

You were the smartest. You were the smartest. Oh, people making people play better. But with them, I like never really felt comfortable. It always seemed like they were getting everything done. And I was just, okay, I'll try to do the objective. But it just never felt like something just always felt all. It never felt like, we're a good-ass team.

It always just felt like we're good-ass players and like I hope we pull this out. Yeah. But then that scene with like good-ass fucking players, like the top at that time. And then I would team with like in the clutch who was not known as like the most skilled player but known as like a good IGL.

He's dedicated. He'll always be on on time. He wants the win really bad. Like he's not the most individually skilled. But like something about having him on my team made me play better all the time. Like every time. my team with them we sides like one event obviously obviously won oh nine nats then even when i team

with them afterwards we got like top three together um he coached a player like that is almost like i feel like he would just make me play better for whatever i just i it's like i knew more so what was happening on the map like he was very vocal oh you said he would say like you know like two dead two dead last two here and here and it's just like a a snipe down ain't saying that i mean he probably has said it before, but it sounds like a simple call-out. Like, two dead last two, their flag ramp and snipe-hut.

Like, clutch will say that, and I'm like, it's just like, boom. It makes it so much easier. That's basically like, yeah, that's essentially what Kevin does. And that's kind of why I say, like, players around, like, if you're able to just focus on, like,

your own fucking gameplay, instead of, like, thinking, oh, holy fuck, like, where this guy at, it'll just benefit you in the long run. What do you think Halo needs in order to thrive again? Fucking, the game just stopped fucking doing the shit

where it's fucking ending all the time. Yeah. Yeah, the resets for tilting. Because not actually, bro. Every reset you would see the viewer kill. Bro, even their cosmetics is fucking insane in the game. Like, they're skinned and shit. Like, bro, they have insane shit.

No, they're pretty con. Low key. Yeah. No, the game is great. Like, low key, like, it's actually a great game. Like, Halo, the Halo Infinite. I think it's the best Halo since, like, Halo 3.

But you're not you don't count you you don't count yeah Halo 5 is my fucking Halo 5 is my fucking Halo 5 was trash No, that's she's got like that she was gonna I wouldn't even say Halo 5 is trash I just think Halo 5 felt like shit Yeah actually yeah if it's gonna see that you're gonna Xbox I don't think I don't care about all that I'm saying just watching it just watching Halo 5 wasn't Halo I remember watching it with big timer and he was like what is this Like you guys are like stalling in the air and ground pounding I'm just like, what the fuck is going on? I think it was a good competitive game. No, it was like, if you're in there playing, like, it's like, Halo 5 is very

hit shots. It's very, it's a rewarding feeling when you do hit that perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like there's ways to. Halo 5, uh, as from a viewer spectator, or from a viewer perspective, felt a lot like watching AW. Like, it's not call a duty. Like, AW was not call a duty. Yeah, I don't know.

It was looking similar to AWD. Yeah. But, but, but it's still a viewer. good, it's still a fun game to watch. Yeah. But, and I feel like Halo Infinite looks like Halo. Like, it doesn't look like a different game. It,

I played Halo 3 the other day and I was like, hmm. It doesn't, it's played Halo 3 the other day? It's so slow, dude. It's so slow. I like it, though. There can be like these slow, I mean, I feel the same way about Mono for 2. The slow ways of, like, jukeing someone and they don't know where, like,

it's just, it's so much more methodical. Yeah. The I get you, I get you. I'm the same way with Cod4. Do we? No. No, we don't. Let's get a clip real quick.

Yeah, Shotsie. Thoughts us. Oh, a doctor disrespects return? No comment. Just no chat. I would have. You would have commented? I would have said.

I think so. We'll talk about it next week then. Should we? Yeah. All right. Doug broke the pull-up record, which is insane. Yeah. That's just crazy.

Can we give Doug censor Martin his fucking flowers? Why do we do that? Why do we triple his name down? Because it's Doug Censor Martin. This big Dougie. Yo, Doug. Now, what he did was crazy, though. Straight up, that's some fucking respect because that shit's all mental. literally all mental

you can see it dude he was I tuned in a couple times he's just fighting demons he's literally just bro he did that he was like that for how long did he go like 18 19 hours I actually don't know I'm like on

I think it was like 18 or 19 hours before he stopped broke the record and then kept going a little bit but even 45 minutes in even one hour in even two hours in he would just do his pull-ups no music

he would just step back on his stool. Apparently there was a clock on the bottom. He would just like stare at it. Holy shit. And he just did that for 19 hours straight. No, I was reading. He probably had some crazy thoughts. I was listening to last night to like his story.

Like I tuned in a little bit and he basically said that he thought like one of the people that were watching him because I guess he had two guys. There's two people watching like a guy making sure he was actually doing the polls correctly and then the guy counting it right? And then he said like he thought like they were like randomly putting water like on it on his face or whatever right and I guess every 45 minutes like when he's doing his pull-ups I guess like his finger popped like his pinky or some shit and like blood would

just splatter all over him and then like the other people were like did you guys feel that as well and I guess they they oh my god dude and I guess they they felt like the blood like all over them as well and the people counting just getting yeah there's blisters splashing their face you guys feel it? Yeah, I think your finger popped. And then, yeah. Oh, that's fucking... That is, bro.

The not... Look at those hands, bro. Of course, doing this is just amazing in itself. Every single... Like, people... David Gagins broke the pull-up world record, and his shit was like 4,300 pull-ups.

Doug did that in the first, I think, six to eight hours. Really? So it's just like... the training he did for this, the probably people talking shit, like shut the fuck up, Doug. He set such a high goal for himself.

And this is why he, I think, talks how he talks and does what he does. When he's playing Call of Duty, it's I will win a world championship. And then he will do everything possible to try to win that world championship. Didn't it pan out how he wanted, not even close?

But still, that's Doug's mindset. of this is what he wants to do and he's gonna fucking achieve it and then to set to even be I don't know how long you train say like a year out and be like I think I'm gonna go for the world record

of pull-ups which is insane I've seen some of the dudes that attempt this and I thought they were just like complete animals and like and I've seen them fail at this so for Doug to train how he trained be as disciplined as as he was

he would stream all of his training that is insane fucking just everything he did man this is so iconic this is just so amazing out of Doug man I gotta give him his flowers it's so sick but watching it

watching it and just seeing him because apparently he was just tanking through him I bet Doug goes dark dude he's literally he would look at the bar and then he would go go up, do three to five

and sit and go and go back down and then just stare in the distance. No music. Just stare and then he would look back up at the bar and apparently he did that for 10 hours. That is fucking psycho. That is crazy.

He did that for 18 hours. Oh my God. That's fucking. That's fucked. I mean the timer was right there at three. The way he basically did 21 hours. Yeah. Holy fuck. 21 hours.

basically. Shouts out to Doug, man. That is crazy. So he, damn. So he broke the world record by like 800 pull-ups, right? I think the record was 8,900. Oh, 900. Oh, I thought he'd be to say,

50, 300, something like that. Well, shit, Doug. Shout out to you, man. That's a perfect way to end this podcast. That is. Given Doug Sensor Martin is God. fucking flowers straight up well and thank you so much for joining us yeah join optic run club everybody yeah join that shit man oh yeah you still running yeah are you

my back on my five miles every other day trying to force posted on uh do you Strava yeah but i you ever post it the only reason i keep it private is just because like the location that I'm at you can turn that off yeah I have mine off like iron method yeah only you can I posted it Yeah, I did too. I did too. I literally am running around my house. I'm like running around my house and I'm like, you guys can't see this, can you?

I'm literally in my neighborhood. So I asked, I was like, yo, can you guys see this? And they said no. So you can post it. As long as it says entire.

It's just in your, it's in your like settings. You just say like hide all. Like if you find my profile and click on it, you'll see because mine shows the map and everything too. But if you, if you click on it and look at it, you won't be able to see it.

Yeah. We're, we're closing. in on uh... closing in on like a thousand members. Yeah, we're hitting a thousand members this year. We want to hit a thousand members. We're trying to do an optic 5K. That should be fired. Well, that shall be lit.

So yeah, if y'all are still listening, join the optic run club on Strava. Show us what you got. Maybe at the end of the year we'll do a little event, maybe make some merch or some shit. I don't know. We'll figure out something though. But join the Optic Run Club. Shotsie, thanks so much for joining us.

Until next time, Matt Craig. Play the outro music. Peace.