The Flycast - Is This The End of Halo Esports | The Flycast Ep. 156
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Like, I don't, just instantly every death was, my right arm just needs to go up.
Sometimes you would, oh, I'll see this.
God's this motherfucker.
That.
Welcome back to another episode of the podcast.
Episode who gives a fun.
Man, I am exhausted.
I would just like to start this off to formally apologize to hitching.
to hitch in Matt Craig.
I know Matt Craig was pissed.
He was so mad.
You should have seen him.
He was throwing stuff, actually.
Yeah, I got here, what, an hour and a half late?
But.
Rapper time.
In my defense,
I don't really have a defense, to be honest.
There's not really one.
Yeah, we were supposed to get here,
or I was supposed to be here at noon.
I set my,
all right, so last night I had fucking shake shack.
I had Chinese.
Yeah.
I had Pine Park Edibles.
Okay.
Pine Park.
So I fell asleep.
Like yesterday we left the Airbnb.
I get home, take an edible.
I just lay in my bed.
I'm like, God, thank.
Just after sleeping on that military cot for six days.
Yeah.
And I fucking, the house wasn't too hot, but like,
it was just not the ideal sleep situation.
Both monitors are on.
Just lights in my face, lights behind me, blowing up the scenery.
It was just the worst.
the worst sleep.
Plus I'm just fucking like on adrenaline
from fighting all these bosses.
But so I was just
the worst sleep during that
whole fucking event.
And I'm actually going to double back and talk about that
but got home yesterday.
Left Airbnb. Got home yesterday.
Eight.
Continued the cycle
of eating like complete
shit. Yeah. I got
two shake shack burgers,
fries.
with ranch and a milkshake.
A ate that, just past the fuck out.
Yeah.
I woke up like four hours later and I was like, well, my sleep schedule was chalked again.
Didn't go to S order Chinese later that night.
Probably fell asleep at like 5 a.m.
I texted the group chat last night.
I was like, what time's the pod?
They were like noon.
It was like 5 a.m.
I was like, fuck.
I set my alarm for 10.30.
Alarm goes off at 10.30.
And I have no idea what happened after that.
Like usually it's like I hit snooze.
and then I wake up again and I'm pissed
but I'm like, all right, now I have to get the fuck up.
But I just don't even, I guess I just hit off.
Fell back asleep.
The pod was supposed to be at noon.
I woke up after my alarm and then it was noon.
And then I see a text and I'm like, oh, fuck.
I was like, all right, I can be there at one.
And then even by the time I like, shit, shower, get dressed,
take chewy down, find everything I need,
find clean clothes.
I was leaving at like 12.
well 50 so I was already late enough
and then blah blah blah blah but yeah I got here late
today it's fucking
it's crazy how
like you remember the race the prestige man
when you went home
how much of a like
how much you felt like you could like
catch up on sleep
yeah yeah yeah it was
it reminded me of an addie crash
I didn't even dude when I got back from the race
I remember like sleeping and it was the first time
that I had slept without ear plugs in for a week
and I was just like oh my god like
and then it didn't move all day
this is how it's supposed to be
I like didn't move I didn't I got home
I was in I got home
say 3 p.m. I did not move
from my bed that entire time
I took chewy out once
or for the race or for this
for this oh yeah
well the race probably the same thing
yeah go home immediately hit the bed
because it's just like I just slept
through Halloween I got home
and it's Halloween oh yeah it's how it's
Literally, people are going out and trick-or-treating.
I just slept through.
I just slept all night, slept all the next day.
I can't remember if I did anything.
Oh, man, I was, I was awesome.
But the Elton Lord Nyack.
Eldon Lord Nyack.
There it is.
I honestly, when you first started, I was like, this might be tough.
Yeah, the first boss, Margaret spent.
I think it was seven hours and twenty,
minutes before I finally beat the first boss.
And then by that time I was like, well, it's 3 a.m.
because I started at like 7 p.m. or something.
Yeah.
By the time I get to the game and actually start playing.
But seven hours stream, seven hours and like 22 minutes stream time in is when I finally
killed the first boss.
And I was like, this is not good pace.
It's not great pace.
Everyone's just like, it only gets harder from here.
Yeah.
It's like he already has 115 deaths on the boss number one.
But you've not.
never played a game even remotely like this never never so like it's not like you have any sort
of you've never even played like a Zelda and in Zelda there's like a I mean I had to
play like that Zelda n64 when I was fucking 10 or something there's no there's not like I don't
think I had ever played a game with a boss bar besides like but not a game where you let not
not like a mechanical game like this ever before before Eleanorie but I was
watching you play and I wasn't worried about
if you had the hand-eye coordination
or the skill to do it. I knew you did.
I was worried about the mentality.
I was worried you were going to be like, dude, this game
is obnoxious. Like if you would thought the game
was annoying for seven days,
that would have sucked.
There was only one point
where I was like, I don't, I don't think
I might not have the skill.
Like, you know how we talk about like heck should do
something like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't
have the skill. Yeah, yeah. Because there is
say like and I know he would hear this and be like fucking pussy's if I really wanted to
if I really wanted to but like you actually have to like you are it's not like world of
warcraft where you're like at a distance yeah throwing shit and as long as you don't like
throw you're gonna kill the boss like it takes time but like there's nothing on world of
Warcraft where you're going in and you can die 350 times before you finally figure it out
and like beat it and look up video like I don't think there's other shit like that in other games
besides like maybe other soul games so yeah I mean the fact that for every boss I was chat would
help out a little um well chat would have to navigate me through everywhere go north west
east dude you have to go get the chrysimal talisman from the underground bow and arrow double
headed lady and I'm like where the fuck is that man just say northwest east south like to point me in
the direction to go so it was like going through all of that then the boss fights I was just like
bro I can't like figure it out like what am I like what am I doing wrong yeah and then I think by like
the end of day two or day three I started hitting a stride to where I was like I started understanding
of like how to dodge and actually kill bosses.
Yeah.
Then it's like it started getting fun and then there'd be...
Because you started like...
Like it took you a long time to beat the first boss.
And then before you went to the second boss,
you went to some like random tree,
like a tree...
I forgot what they're called.
Not tree Sentinel, but a tree...
The tree bosses, you know the ones that are next to tree,
you kill them, you get a tear.
You got like stuck on one of those
because you were kind of underlevel for it,
but you could still beat it.
And that was the first time I saw you beat a boss and then you did this to the...
Was that the huge fat tree that jumps up, stomps, and you got to get behind it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So there's a bunch of those in the game.
Oh, that motherfucker I was on forever.
Yeah.
Because if it gave me a boss to where, like, I die and I just spawn and I'm right there again,
I'm like, well, I can run it back.
I'm already here.
Yeah, you fought that thing for a while.
And then you finally beat it.
And when you beat it, you did this.
and you put your hand up and your hands were shaking
and I was like oh I think he's in
like I think he just pushed through it
and it was annoying
but you weren't annoyed when you beat it
because when you beat Margaret you were like finally
like I beat Margaret
but that one I was like oh shit and then
I mean you beat
you beat Renala really quickly
the library the library chick
with all the library
we would have to like pull these bosses off
I would have
should we start should we start Google
imaging them because like everything
thing was just a blur like
I feel probably don't even remember fighting
Godrick like no I need
an image like I need a image and then I remember
the guy who puts his arm into a dragonhead and then goes
I'd have to see the second boss I kind of remember that scene but
the boss is in order okay here we go
God Margett of course oh there's not a picture yeah we've seen
oh shit just Google
Google the second one Godrick
Godrick the grafted
Yeah from my memory
Remember this guy
Yes what moves did he do
He's a freak bro
I'd have to see his moves
I do remember the phase though
Yeah he puts his he has the second phase where he goes
And it's like blowing fire out
Yeah
Yeah
Um there's there's a few bosses that stood out
I would say
millennia of course that was that was the highlight of the stream yeah of course dying to her
think it was 352 times before I finally beat her but it was just so like like I remember going in at
first or I got to her and like everyone's talking about how difficult she is but then I get to her
and I get to the second phase
or I beat her
and then I like kind of celebrated
I really didn't think of us
there was the second phase
I like celebrated like that was supposed to be
fucking hard
like this was supposed to be
one of the hardest bosses in the game
and then her second phase starts
and then I just die instantly
and then you spent so long
trying to get to the second phase
yeah I couldn't get past the first phase
because that's fucking
What's it called?
Waterfowl move.
Like, oh my God.
You have to, like, bait it out.
Because there'd be times when I'm like, okay, I can't wear armor.
I have to bait out this move.
When does she do it?
She does that at about, like, 70% health.
And then maybe again, like 30% health.
But then sometimes she'd do it a third time, too.
Yeah.
It's just you have to play it so slow and safe just to, like, try to, like,
sometimes I'd go to bait it out.
She wouldn't do it.
I'd go to bait it out so you wouldn't do it again
and then I'd go attack her art
and right when I'm R being she jumps up to do it
and I'm like well I'm fucked
and then I just die
and that happened so many times
and then I'd even get through the first phase
and then the second phase would start
and I'm like all right
I'm new here what the hell
how does this work?
A lot of her moves like she starts the move
up in the air
yeah but I'm like
is this I start running away
and it's not even the move
she's just like spearing into the ground
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so trolley.
Oh, that was such a, that was such a fulfilling,
um, just a fulfilling feeling or a fulfilling rush.
Yeah.
Of, of beating her.
And I remember after beating her, I was like, all right, there's only one boss left,
like, but like, I don't want this to stand.
Yeah.
And like, in my chat was just like, no, I just go fight.
And I was like, yeah, I can't really, like, I think I went and
killed like two side bosses or something yeah then i was like all right there's really i can't like delay this
any longer right and it's nine p m or something yeah so i'm like all right let's just go to the final boss
and then did it and i was like not not even trolling i like wasn't trying i was like kind of dying on purpose
i wanted to die a bunch on purpose and then just be like all right we got to go like level up or
go do something else off to a side quest something because i was like i don't i know i'm going to
beat this boss and i i probably beat it like
30 tries or
something like that
and I was like I know I'm gonna beat this boss
but I like don't want this experience to end
because like once I beat the game
like there goes at least half the viewers
and like I just enjoyed the experience
of like you know everyone being in chat
with me talking
I mean talking shit my
bro they don't stop
I don't unders I would there was probably about
three times where I almost texted you
And I was like, like, because I just had to let it out somewhere.
But I didn't, I don't want to say it too harsh on stream.
Right.
Because it'll just like make them double down and go even harder at me.
But like there's, there was times I was almost texting you.
Like, what fucking losers are just sitting there talking shit in chat?
And it's one thing if it's just like said once.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it'll be, bro, there was times after every single death I'd look over and one name would stick out.
and I would
I'm like bro
I've seen you say something
after every scene
like just a like
you're horrible
you're not gonna beat this
and I'm just like bro
I would never do that
yeah
like I would never sit in my friend's stream
and say shit like that
even like I remember
one time formal came in
and it was like
sort of at the beginning
ish of where I started fighting
a millennia
okay
and he's just like
he just types you're horrible
laugh my ass off
and I just completely ignored it.
I just completely ignored it.
But it obviously hit.
But there's a, well, trust me.
I'm just like, why are you, why are you?
I would not come in your chat and say that to you.
There is something weird about watching someone play Eldon Ring that's like playing it for
the first time where you've had the experience and you know what to do and they don't know
what to do yet because there's their first time playing.
Oh, people are like, God, you're so bad.
It's such a frustrating game that when you watch someone get frustrated and it might be this like
fucked up part of our minds.
But even when I was watching you, I had to like fight it.
I was like, dude, I want him to be even more mad.
It's so fun.
It's so fun for him to get mad.
See, but I don't know.
My type of, my type of trolling is like, like, I would say like, no, you deaf got this
next one with like a smiley face.
Like, I wouldn't just be like, you're fucking horrible.
No, no, no.
Yeah, I wouldn't say that either.
Like, people would just say shit like that.
And I'm like, wow.
Like you.
I think one time.
Me looking over at the chat and like seeing that, it's like, do you.
you not, are you
not understanding I'm human?
Because it's been six
fucking days straight.
And you're still saying that.
Yesterday this guy said,
he said like five things in a row,
five deaths in a row.
And I was just like,
all right,
let me fucking see this.
And I click his name
in every message was just like talking shit.
It's just like tension.
I was like, I have to ban you.
You've got to go.
I was just like,
all right,
I'm banning this guy.
And then I gave him like a 14 day ban
or something.
something to ring of him.
But then I finally beat it.
I was like, all right, man, I'm on and ban you.
He comes back.
He was like, yeah, you are.
He was like, I actually wanted you to see that, though.
I like the band.
And I'm like, all right, just ban this guy again, actually.
Because he's going to be back and piss me off.
I would troll you, like, one time I think you were fighting millennia.
And the song in the background was Jay-Z and Eminem song, the Renegade.
And it's literally.
literally M&M going, Reneagate, Renegade, Renegade.
Like, you know how that's how like the, and you died?
And it was just like, it was a really bad death.
And I went, song?
Question mark.
He's obviously saying, Ritigate.
Uh, and I just want to.
Yeah, let me stop what I'm doing.
The song is.
Like, that's, that's more of my level of troll.
It's like, I know you're going through it.
And so I want to say something like trolley on my end.
Like something trolly or something, a little.
little witty is fine, but it's just the like, I don't know.
It's just not in me to like, not necessarily kick someone when they're down because
it's like, it does make it funny.
Like if the chat wasn't doing that, it'd be kind of not fun.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
So like, did this open up?
Did this, did it at what point in the game did you realize like, oh shit, I think I like
like this game?
Because it's not at the beginning.
At the beginning, like, at the beginning, I'm like, what?
Like when I was playing it, I was like, what the fuck?
What is this?
And people are like, just go explore.
And I'm like, bro, me exploring will get nothing done.
They're like, dude, you need to go explore just to learn.
And like, and people would be like, chat, stop helping him out.
And I'm like, if chat was not helping me out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
One, this would not get done.
And two, it would be a very boring stream because like to get to a boss or a side boss or some rando
boss or some new location, it just wouldn't have.
happen because the game i don't know how a motherfucker plays this game and actually figures it out
without you using youtube and like other shit yeah i mean i've never played a souls on release so i have
no idea but i can't imagine i can't imagine anyone playing this game without some sort of help
like there's so much shit you have to do what was your question when i felt like i could when i felt
like i was like okay i like this you were like oh my god like i or you felt like i you liked the game um
let me take a look at the bosses again
I think honestly it might have been when fire giant was huge.
Radon, I still feel unaccomplished about because I use summoned.
But those summons on that fight are meant to be used.
But they just distract.
Once they distract and you can get chunks of bleed damage.
Yeah.
I would say, is Godskin the fat, the fat dude and the skinny dog.
spawning? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that one was annoying.
Wait, keeps going up.
But these are all, like,
go, yeah, scroll all the way down.
These are all, like, later,
those were all, like, later game ones.
Yeah, there was, the fire giant was tough.
You were already locked in during the fire giant, though.
Like, you had already, like, bought in.
Okay, Margot.
Plenia.
Rikar.
It might have been around that time.
It might have been the Mogg shit.
Really?
I mean, Maliketh was tough, too.
Maliketh, I could not
Like, Maliketh was like a mini
millennia.
I don't really know from the bosses.
Maybe that,
maybe that tree thing,
which wasn't even a main boss.
Not even a main boss.
I think it was maybe the tree thing
because that was, it kept killing me
and I kept respawning closest shit
so I'll just fight it again.
And I like felt like I was underleveled
because in the beginning,
everyone was just like telling me what to do.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So I was just like, I wasn't getting runes.
I wasn't like just leveling up a little bit.
Yeah.
Like, I wasn't just killing shit real quick and getting ruins and then killing more shit, getting
ruins.
And then by the time I'm even done exploring the new plays, boom, I can level up before I even get to the boss.
Yeah.
Like I was just going straight to the boss.
Everyone was always just like skip all these guys.
Yeah.
Which like sometimes you would just.
A lot of times.
Yeah.
A lot of those little guys are nothing.
But then there's certain places where it's like, oh, this would have been
good XP at this time.
Right, yeah. So I felt like the first few bosses
I just went in so under-leveled
that it just made it so difficult.
And it was like, it was turning
me off a little bit because I was like, God,
I'm going to have to go stop this boss. Chat, where do I go
to level up? And like, the chat can never agree
on one thing.
People are telling me, do this, do this? Does he have this unlocked?
Do they ask me, do I have it unlocked? I'm like, I have no
idea what's going on. I don't know where I'm at. People are like just TP to this place and they'll
name a place and I'll look on the nap and I'm just going through each one. Where is this fucking
place? Yeah. That happens a lot. Like YouTube videos are like a blessing because like you can just follow
exactly where the guy goes. That's what about halfway through the game I started doing that because
we try to get like like people would be like what are your talismans and I would show them on.
They're like oh my God they're horrible. You've had these since the beginning and I'm like yeah I know.
They're like, all right, let's go get talent.
Like, after I die to a boss 100 times, I'm like, all right, I'm not going to beat this.
Let's go.
I have to go level up and go get new talism.
Like, let's do some kind of new journey.
I can't just keep sitting here and fighting this boss and dying.
Yeah.
So then I'd go get new talismans and all that shit, man.
Oh, man.
It was a fucking adventure.
I don't really, I would say that tree thing I probably locked in.
and then when I got to Malikath
that was a
yeah Maliketh was fucking tough
Well it's your favorite cutscene
I don't know if you remember them all
But like I really don't remember them all
I was disappointed in the final one to be honest
The final cut scene
Yeah of like
Like when you beat the game
Or like when I'm right before I fight the final balls
Oh yeah there's not really a
It just wasn't much there
It's like a man with tits
What
He's like a man with tits I think
Oh yeah yeah
I think he's like half man, half female.
Half man, half woman, yeah, and then turns into a gigantic.
Dragon.
Dragon, Dick Dragon.
Yeah, which just totally makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, the final boss could have had some.
The cutscenes in the DLC are crazy.
So have you played the DLC?
Yeah, yeah.
But like I said, I played the game.
I played the game with Blake and George.
I, we, I don't know if you saw, but we found your, we found the YouTube video.
of y'all beating millennia?
Yeah.
And I was just like,
no, it's not even like,
I'm telling you,
it's not even.
It was like your ninth try or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because we,
the mod,
you play with three people in Eldon Ring,
which is a lot of fun.
It's really cool.
But every boss is scaled up three times,
so they should be harder.
But for bosses like millennia,
she flinches so much.
It's like,
that's the only way you beat her.
It's like you hit her often,
flinch her out of her move,
and then she staggers.
And then you're in the back
using some fucking yeah
what was oh the coming coming
oh the coming come and I was
using and I just see her health going
just
and I'm just
this is how they like it's this
that's probably other motherfuckers in my chat
like talking shit like I beat it
he's still on this boss
they're for sure you summons they're
they're using summons they're using
cheese builds and then they're sitting
there judging me on how long
I'm taking that's why I love the
It's one of my favorite games ever, but I need to beat it.
I need to beat it solo.
And I think when I beat it solo...
Do a fucking marathon, please.
When I beat it solo, I think I'm going to try to beat it with a club only.
Don't do that.
I think I'm going to.
Because I've beaten the...
I've beaten the tree sentinel.
Do you use a shield?
And the first two bosses with a club.
Maybe a shield too.
I don't know.
I've never parried though, so I don't know.
Yeah, you were like parrying at the beginning?
I was like, what the fuck?
shield yeah i thought that's how the game was going to be played yeah i mean a lot of people i mean some people
do that and then and then people were like bro drop the shield two hand the sword and i'm like bro then i have
no defense or like you got a roll and i'm like it's this where the learning that's where the learning
curve started because after i dropped my shield which i thought was going to be like something i
hold on to for the game once i dropped the shield i felt so defenseless but then you got to learn how to
how to time yeah dude it was tough
man I think people would be...
I think that feeling
of like
I'm trying to think of what boss has one
Godfrey really
the guy with the lion on his back
like he'll have a move where it's like
foo foo foo fum fum
and if you perfectly dodge
it like when you get five dodges in a row
and then you can attack it's like
oh it hits like a spot
and I will say
even though like
millennial all the remembrance bosses
or not all of them but all the main bosses
the three of us
beat together.
I did do a stream where I went and I beat, I beat the, uh, uh, the gargoyles myself.
I beat the, uh, you know the, the guy in order to get the medallion for millennia,
uh, that spawns two summons up, the ice guy.
He's like a, he's like a ice, uh, up in like a castle.
The top of a castle, there's like a, he's like a commander.
And when you walk into the arena, he, there's two summons that.
come towards you no not this guy ice guy ice guy elgin ring ice guy elgin ring uh look up um
commander look up commander elder ring yeah shout out at anyone listening that doesn't give
a fuck about elden the the top right all the way in the top right this guy oh yeah yeah i beat i beat him
solo like i beat i beat i beat estelle solo the you one take to sell but you were over leveled at that point
like I beat I've beaten a couple like a decent amount of bosses solo I just want to see you Maliketh I've never been Maliketh like so
but the the thing is now if I was to play another game or even like the DLC I feel like it's not
the same because I like I know how to move now like I miss being it's almost like when you first play
Minecraft yeah like it's so fun and I feel like
entertaining to just see you slowly try to farm and you're fucking up and your hoe runs out so you got
go buy it so you buy it or make another one make another one yeah so just like little shit like that
and that's like exploring the the nether and shit for the first couple of times like that type of shit's
that's like peak moments for me in Minecraft like whenever I beat the game and people are like yes
all right now learn to build I'm like this isn't fun though yeah like
I like being a new
and trash and having shitty armor
so I have to play it perfect
Once you get like full armor and shit
You're just running through
Through things in Minecraft
So like I'm gonna
I don't know
I feel even like other soul games
If I was try to
What's a soul game you would say to play
Instead of this one?
We were playing like saying like
Sicario
Securo
Securo I've heard is really really good
Dark Souls 2 apparently is the hardest one
But I feel like
I feel like I'm just gonna be good now.
What?
I feel like I'm just gonna be good now whenever I...
The D.L.C.
Now that I got like kind of got the timing or the dodging and rolling down.
The final boss of the DLC is unreal.
Like it is unreal.
Like harder, I would say harder than Melania.
Really?
For sure, hard. Actually for sure harder than millennia.
It's just that one.
move. You gotta learn to dodge
and learning to dodge it. You like
watch a video
and you like I remember
watching a video. I was like all right, a hundred deaths.
I'll do 100 deaths of just like
not understanding
it and I died to it every single time.
And then eventually I was just like
all right, let me watch a YouTube video of how to dodge
this, the waterfowl. And then I watch
the video and I was like, yeah, I'm not doing that.
So it's just like, so what are we going to do?
And then I slowly, it was
such a process. Then I
started dodging the first one right but then i couldn't dodge the second and the third yeah then i
started dodging the first two and then i couldn't dodge the third then like it was she hits you with one of them
you die there it was just such a build-up of of just learning shit and after you fight her 352 times
you just you just start it felt good to be honest like it felt good like knowing what moves she was
learning yeah yeah yeah just fucking jump in moving
certain times where I know you got a note
only to attack once because she
might jump up in the sky and you can't wear
armor because you got to run away quick
but here I am with this heavy
ass fucking sword meanwhile every
video like I watched Kai
he had like just the fast
katana weapons or whatever so in his character
just looks like he's running so much faster
than mine dude Kai's build like
he would hit he would hit Millennia like
three times and she's half health
he was like three three three
and she's half he could hit her three times
and then she jumps up
but he's still fast enough to turn around
my guy was like if I make
one mistake of slashing
while she's jumping up
like I'm just fucked
George used the
Malakas blade
Blake used the bloodhound thing
the whole time
same same thing that you did
he was actually kind of salty
that you got the
that I got you the trophy
he doesn't deserve that
I want a three man
fucking I was so
close to switching it because i know ron died 300 times and then switched to it yeah and then killed her
apparently you did it faster than ron did i think i did yeah and less deaths and like people were
talking shit to me about how long it's taking yeah and he took longer and of course kai's longer
and people are like bro this guy he's maniacs on a slower pace than kai this shit's sad like i would
like look over after a fucking death and see that
and I'm like
I'm like bro
for one
I don't think I am
but for two
they're just dude
I'm telling you it's such a
it's a game where like
and it's also the meta
like the meta of being a Twitch chatter
is to roast the streamer
because every streamer
every streamer that I know is
or every streamer that is huge
is like that except for like adapt
there is not a chat
that's not toxic as fuck
yeah if you have good
if you have
probably
be a thousand plus viewers.
Yeah.
No, it's just insane.
It's just like the meta.
They're like, oh, it's like roast.
Let's roast the streamer, which is.
And even it's subs.
It's fucking subs and shit.
And like people that familiar faces.
They'll donate $10 and be like, bro, you're never going to beat this.
Go gift 350 subs.
Fucking his word, the MVP,
immediately gifted 300 subs just back to back to back hundred bombs to
reach no summons.
Yeah.
And then you just have to take it.
and then at that point I'm just like well whatever you say I guess I guess you could just talk shit to me
but like I would call them out sometimes I'm like bro there's people in here that have like that
have been in here the whole time y'all are subbed and shit but like I can't keep looking over and like
addressing your bullshit of of just trying to fuck control me because it's every single death so there
be times where it's just like I just got to ignore chat was your biggest rage did you have a big rage
I mean there's a couple of times I'd get up and just have to
I think on like two different two or three different bosses
there are times where I'd like get
get up and just take my fucking razor chair
and just start kicking the shit out of it
my I bet someone could probably make an insane compilation
of me dying and then
without even thinking like I'm just like this playing
and then without even thinking I die and I just go
and and there's
is such a smashable table
beside me. Dude, that was an Airbnb
table. Yeah. Because the desk
I was like, I don't think I can break this though.
You could have broken the desk. You couldn't
have broken the tables. I'm so glad
you did it. Well, I didn't want to like break
the desk and then it fucking falls
and everything just
but I just wanted
there could, I bet someone could
find, let's see, I died what
over a thousand times? There
could probably be
700 clips of me died.
Yeah, and it's just the same sequence of...
Yeah, I did see that a lot.
Like, I don't know, just instantly every death was...
My right arm just needs to go up.
Sometimes you would... Oh, I'll see this.
God's this motherfucker.
That...
Wait, let me see that again.
That was for the Bloodhound fling. The Bloodhound fang guy.
What death are you at?
71
yeah that L-T-R-T combo
is not it
dude there were so many moments
like it's like you might think it's like
pretending or acting
but like bro it is genuine
fucking rage
and every once in a while
you just lose it you just go yeah
there's times like
I just get into that like psycho
I don't care of
zone
to where I'm just losing it
and just start making noises
and fucking stupid faces
and I just don't care.
Oh, that is so funny, bro.
This game was such a...
I mean, listen, man,
if you'd have no idea
what we're talking about,
we did an out-and-ring marathon.
It was six nights.
Six nights.
It took six nights to beat Eldon Ring.
100 and...
I forget the exact hour I beat it on.
100 and...
I don't know.
Maybe like 15 hours or something.
Something like that, yeah.
Because I think we ended it at like 135.
But like I kept the stream on that night.
But yeah, did out and ring marathon.
Took six nights to beat it.
Had the camera set up 24-7.
Was playing like 13 to 15 hours a day.
And yeah, just finally beat the game in.
It was a slow process.
We got an Airbnb for a little setup.
Shouts out to the I-K-O-N-S.
That's I-I-C-O-N-S.
The sponsor of today's podcast in the Out and Ring stream, but overall it was a lot of cool stuff that happened during it.
Like you hit all your sub goals, which were funny.
Like you got to, you had to eat a full family style pizza.
You had slept, you slept outside one time.
You, like in a tent.
The Optic Boys won EWC and myself, Atlas and James were there in the background, like cheering them on.
Yeah.
The scump watch party rated a lot
And they were the
Shouts out to them too
Shouts out to the watch party
Rating showing love
I mean obviously it helps
helps the stream tremendously
Especially at a time when I'm like
Actually doing something
Right yeah yeah
And there's an actual goal
It's almost like my own little event
But yeah shout out to the watch party man
Shout out everyone involved
Shout out Chewy holding me down as well
My dog being a good boy
Atlas's new best friend
I would just
walk in and Atlas is working at the table and Chuwe's just under his feet.
Yeah. I would walk I'd walk to the bathroom and see
Atlas on his bed. Chewy at his feet. There's a lane with him. I'm like, what the
fuck? I remember like the last night. Drewie was like, I laid down to bed a little early.
Chewy was on the couch and he drew just like gets up and walks to Atlas's door and
lays there. I'm like, you ain't going in there. Just got like jealous and shit.
I was like, come here and lay down.
You are not sleeping with him tonight.
It's so funny.
Man, it was a great experience.
I'm not going to lie before.
I think we started on a Wednesday.
I think it was like Tuesday, and I was like, I can't believe I have to do this shit.
But I also thought it was going to go a lot worse, viewership-wise.
Yeah, you were very concerned.
And sub-wise.
And not that that's like the most important thing.
but because the most important thing is just like having a good event or a good show or in good streams and good moments and really in just enjoying myself.
But I did not think people would care or be as interested in it as they were.
But I mean, it definitely blew my expectations.
And I feel like I kind of say this every single time.
I do some kind of, whether it's like a watch party or some kind of stream or whatever.
it always goes it always usually goes better than than what i thought but yeah man shout out to everyone
who came and watched it was quite an experience out and ring an amazing game i don't know how people
play it like like i was telling people they're like maniac what do you rate it and i was like i'd give
this game like a nine out of ten i don't i don't know if i can say 10 but like i can't see this i can't
what i can't see what would make this game better yeah and there's also so much shit i didn't do yeah
But people would ask that.
And I'd be like, yeah, but also at the same time, I feel like I have a bias opinion about it because I'm streaming a 24-7 thing.
I'm interacting with the chat a lot.
They're helping me out.
It's like a whole sort of community thing.
So would I be able to beat this game just sitting in my apartment?
Like streaming six hours a day?
maybe six hours a day or even just like playing by myself like would i enjoy like that because
a lot of times like you know people talking shit or people hyping me up or like yeah killing a boss
and everyone's hype is chat and chat's going crazy and shit like that was part of the experience
i feel like so i just i intertwined that with my out-in-ring experience so it's like to me it was
amazing yeah uh but to just casually play this like a lot of people were saying like yeah i tried playing
and I couldn't, I forget,
they'd say they got to the tree sentinel or something,
then they'd just stop playing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which makes sense.
Yeah, so I don't know.
I feel like I'm a little biased because I had,
I was on stream and there was just so much more dopamine involved.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think marathons for Eldon Ring,
and I guess, I guess Kai started it,
but like the, I think people enjoy them
because not everybody can just take off seven,
days and do nothing but play a video game and watching someone do it and watching knowing like exactly
where they're at constantly is is fun especially for such a hard game like the game is so hard
yeah the game is hard that's what i liked about it though yeah there's no there's no the thing
that's beautiful about it is there's no difficulty setting like it's just i was for a second bro it was
the millennia fight i was like bro what setting did they make this because like i'll watch other people
I'll watch other people fight her.
She never does the water foul.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She would do it to me three times in the first phase.
And then she would do it instantly.
Like, I remember on the second phase,
she would boom, come down in the beginning.
You back up, you charge your shit up, whatever.
Then she starts getting up, and then you go attack her.
I would go attack her once.
She'd fly up and do it on me.
And I'm just like, what the fuck?
I'm like, bro, any video I've watched, this does not happen.
and then it's just R&G.
You kind of just got to get,
unless you really know how to dodge it.
Like, it's just R&G.
You can, like, master it,
but for your fight and for Kai's fight,
I haven't seen Ron's fight,
but he probably didn't get it.
I think I did watch this fight.
I don't think she did it on him.
Second phase, she never did Waterfowl for her.
But I was,
I was ready for it.
If you go back and watch the video,
you'll see me just start running away,
and she's just doing, like,
the most basic move.
Yes, she is.
But, like, she'll fly up,
and I'm just like,
is the second,
phase i couldn't tell what she was doing if she was flying up to do that move which is instant
fucking kills me or what oh man but what an experience and we also of course got to we got to do that
and watch the the boys win back to back worlds in uh what's the other one called ewc yeah well
esports world cup yeah world championship in world cup i mean that wasn't on my bingo card this
year.
No.
Not at all.
I don't know if it was open there.
Before we start talking about other shit, I have to pee so bad.
Okay.
I'm down to good too.
And then we'll just get out of Ellen Ring and just keep going with us.
All right.
Well, we both just had to take shits, but we're back.
I just peed.
We were both taking shits.
And now we're back.
The boys.
Back to back.
E-sports World Cup champs.
Yep.
Or.
Yeah.
Tad of the fucking world.
So you got.
World champs, then your East Sport
World Cup champs.
Uh-huh.
Cod champs.
There's Cod champs, and then there's
East Sports World Cup champs.
And then there's Halo Worlds.
I think you get confused.
There's too much world shit.
You get confused because HALOs is called Worlds
and Cod's called Cod champs.
And so you kind of get confused.
Yeah, I call Cod's Worlds.
You call it all.
You call it worlds.
Everything's worlds to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's why you get confused.
Okay.
It's not confused for Cod people because there's Cod champs in the ESports World Cup.
But for.
So it's not worlds.
Like Codd doesn't have a world.
It's not a world.
Just Cod champs.
Cod champs.
Not Cod Chams.
Nope.
Okay.
Well, congratulations.
Sit up boys, man.
A back to back.
We got to get, we got to get Merck on next week.
Let's try to make that happen.
I'm down.
I feel like I can't think of a better time to bring Merckle in because whenever they won,
I was about to say worlds.
Whenever they won champs,
you milked him.
I think Hex milked him.
Did Hex do the eavesdrop?
Really crazy way of saying it.
I had him on.
Had him on the show.
No, you had him on, but did Hex do a eavesdrop?
He was about to do an eavesdrop, and he still might.
He said he wants to bring back a one episode of an eavesdrop for Merck.
But Merck's a quiet kid, man.
He's a quiet kid.
But we saw a great episode.
It was a lot of fun.
Yeah.
It was a lot of fun.
I'm trying to get now that now that
season's over because they won't drink while the season's going on
because they don't want to fuck up practice or at all
but I think I can get Kyler to drink
has he never drunk before he's probably he's had to have drank before
he's had to have drinks I don't know if Merck has though
but there's a there's a story of
Kyler introducing
a weed pen to Shotsie and Shotsie telling the story
Shotsie told the story around the bar
and he's like bro I'd
He's like I just every time I went to go grab a cup and I went to go drink it and I was high and so I felt like I kept grabbing the cup and I kept drinking the cup or something like that.
What was he what was he doing when he was high?
Nothing just chilling just chilling and he was like he was like Kyler was with me and Kyler was like no you're fine and I was like dude I'm not fine I'm not fine.
So I want to hear though I want to hear stories like that from Tyler's perspective because I feel like Kyler's just like he's just like so locked on Kod that people.
don't know a lot about him.
I think people thought he was going crazy for a little bit.
Yeah, people definitely thought that.
And I wonder what that came from.
Because I remember even, I won't say a name.
But I remember someone told me, they were like,
yo, I live in Hooke's building.
And I see him, I saw him walk outside and just start walking into the woods.
And I was like, this was like, he wasn't on optic.
This was like years ago.
This was like 20, 22.
or something.
I did not know what you were going to say
and I did not think it was going to be that.
But like,
I think people thought he was like losing it for a little because
he like he came back and he talked about his like Adderall experience and now he was
blah blah.
And I think people think thought he was like dabbling in like psychedelics.
And I think he was like getting more in tune with the universe.
Like instead of like he,
because he got out of Adderall and started and people just assumed he went somewhere else
because he started getting spiritual.
Yeah.
But we asked him on the fly.
He said he's always been like that.
I mean, and he also doesn't seem weird at all.
He seems very normal.
Just like low, no quiet.
Yeah.
But when he's in game, it's just like,
bra.
Crazy.
That dude is insane.
Who doesn't?
Yeah, we got to bring him back again.
It'll be a positive interview.
Because every other time he comes back and we're like,
you're back, man.
How are you feeling?
How are you feeling fucking, you know,
what's your thoughts going into this?
you know do you have uh not like a prediction for how they're going to do but just like and he's always
just like you know i'm excited i'm ready to go grateful for the opportunity yeah grateful for the opportunity
always like positive but now it's like he gets to come on we're just like how's it feel so we got
we got to get we got to get hook on i'm i want to get murk i mean we can actually just have it's just
four weeks just the whole team let's do well let's milk and we already had jp yeah the
the team it's a long off season five weeks straight
five weeks straight of each
cod player. I got to figure out what scrap
likes to do. Does scrap like basketball?
I don't know. Is he
around the bar
member or guest?
No, no, no. Like, because I
wanted him to come on a flycast.
He was, he said he was like, yeah, I'm
down to do the flycast next week, but then something
fell through when we couldn't do it. But I
want to travel again. Boxing.
I want to travel again with the flycast.
Go to a boxing thing?
I was thinking go to 9.
boxing thing. I just thought that'd be funny
because scrap's always like talking shit.
And then we take him to a boxing ring and we spar a little bit.
That show would be funny.
There's a crazy, crazy
roster mania going on right now.
Oh yeah, fucking
so what, Simps is a free agent?
No. Sallium's a free agent.
Sell is a free agent. Droz is a free agent.
The two guys off of Miami are free agent.
Neptune's a free agent.
Damn, what teams are going to be full.
Bro, I would be...
So what team...
I would be mind blown if thieves doesn't make a change.
I would be mind-blown.
Yeah, I feel like these is going to make a change.
There's so much talent on the...
And I'm not saying that obviously that thieves team is so talented.
But just like what happened in Halo,
there was a top three...
There was a top three Halo teams.
And then roster mania happens.
There's a top four Halo teams.
Like our guys, the Shopify rebellion phase.
and one other team, right?
Or is it just top three, really?
Phase, Optic, Shopify, and SSG.
And SSG, SSG.
But after Rostermania happened,
like, two of those top four teams, like, weren't clicking.
Like, weren't clicking as well as people thought they were.
Even though they're the, by far the best players.
They made the switches to try to be first place contending.
Right, exactly.
But they made the switches, and two of the teams just didn't work out.
become they're no longer top one contenders now haven't those two teams mixed up since them
and they're better and they're better but it's still i feel like sort of in the same boat to where
optic and shopify are like number one even though shopify is not i don't think they're that they might
be like fourth seed or something really because they got how many events has there been two
who because shopify got second and then they got fourth okay and then you would think they're
third seed like tsm is i think second seed oh my god i forgot tsm got like they had a crazy
like bracket blessing yeah last event or i mean they obviously played well and but it's just like you
just don't expect to see tsm a second seed when there was it all four one all four teams on one side
of the bracket it's like us phase ssg and shopify all on one side of the i mean well tsm beat us
that's why they got yeah yeah in pools right yeah tsm beat us in pools and then yeah yeah
Then they played, I forget who for like top three,
and then they got their top three.
And then they lost every series after that.
But yeah, TSMs, I think somehow like the second seat.
And we got that going on this weekend.
HCS Salt Lake City, me and APG are going to be out there doing a watch party.
Thank God, man.
Because when this out in ring stream ended,
and I was talking to you before this, actually.
And I did want to mention it on the pod.
that entire week of the Eldon ring stream,
I like didn't really feel anxiety.
Like there's a specific feeling in me
that I consider anxiety.
And while I was doing that,
I was just like so locked in.
I had goals.
I knew I wake up, talk to chat, shower,
come back, sit down, play a little,
order food.
It's just, it's just routine.
So there's like,
there's nothing extra to think about.
Like the views were good,
the subs were good,
people showing up,
showing out.
The BTAs community.
was there helping obviously I've atlas
there the entire time in case anything
fucking happens he's like cleaning up and shit
Atlas was the goat
but they're like I just didn't have
anxiety yeah like I
and that it was like
such a new feeling for me
that like the stream was just going so well
I had it completely not scheduled
out but it's just like
I had my routine for six
days straight and then
I leave I go home
and it's it was like a dopamine
crash. I was like, damn, this apartment's quiet. There's no music playing. There's no
there's no back door to just like let chewy out with the yard and get some sun real quick.
Like I have to be in an elevator with people. And like instantly when I get back, this girl
texts me about like going on a date or something. I'm just like, fuck. And I just like my
anxiety just spikes again. I was like, fuck, back to this shit. Like I miss just being like locked
in my own little bubble
in that fucking living room.
And it was just a safe space
to where I know Atlas is going to be here.
Chewy's good. And I got this
to do. And no matter
what, someone's always going to be in chat to talk
to or whatever. And I'd lay down
at night. Watch some videos
and go to sleep, wake up, repeat
for fucking six days straight. And then I get
home and I'm like in the city.
Take the elevator. Just
like trying to find a parking spot.
Take the elevator up. There's people in it.
Like I just felt it instantly like brought that anxiety back and I'm like am I just not made for the city or am I just like dopamine crashing to where like I don't know I just felt off in my own little bubble in a house I could scream I could be allowed as I want to slam shit kick shit.
Yep.
And now I'm just like fuck.
I'm back in my apartment.
I have nothing planned for today and I have nothing planned for today and then well besides this and then we leave tomorrow for Salt Lake City.
So I was like, at least we got Salt Lake City
because I feel like I have to get back into something immediately.
Just so like, one, keep this momentum,
but two, not like fall off and lose all momentum.
You got to make a video from it.
I don't know how you're going to do it.
Yeah, I don't know how that'd be done.
But like.
Or how much I'd have to pay someone to do that.
You're going to want, you're going to want to remember this stream.
I was about to post it to my Instagram.
I have no, like, gaming clips on my Instagram,
but I was about to just make a post.
and just be like, this ain't my usual post,
but I need this here for memories.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was about the post.
Just the millennia fight?
Yeah.
Yeah, because there's just so many good moments,
so many good rages.
Like, and then also, like, the stream side of it,
the, you ate, like, the, you just eating a pizza,
or the boys winning the tournament and we're in the background,
are you sleeping outside?
Uh, you in the nurse outfit,
you winning the, or you holding the sword at the end when you beat it.
Like, there's so many good, like, really good moments for a video.
Yeah, there is.
a good video that could be made
that would just be for like
just memories. Yeah. Because I even said on my
Instagram that was probably a top
10 moment in my gaming
career. Yeah. Like I've had
like really good series and
you know there were times when hey even just
like Halo 2 matchmaking was like a top
10 winning 09 top 10
2015 with formal
APG lethal top 10
H1Z1 top 10
Fortnite top 10
this top 10
I was just like this is
this was that race the prestige
top 10 yeah yeah yeah
so it's just there's there's quite a few moments
but this Eldon Ringstream was definitely
a a top
moment for me in my career
and I didn't
I don't know I don't I almost
I wasn't going to but I almost wanted to text you
beforehand but like you obviously already had the Airbnb
and shit and like make some excuse
of like bro I don't know if I can do it
Oh, I want to drag your ass there.
I want to driven to your place.
I don't know if I want to do this.
I just don't think it's going to go well.
Like, yeah.
I'm just not feeling it.
I mean, I will say it went a lot, lot better than I think either one of us were expecting.
My expectation.
I always and people like APG and Seth will get on me about this too.
Like I'll publicly speak about having low expectations.
Yeah.
And I think it's just a safe thing for me to do.
just in case it doesn't go well.
And I'm like, yeah, well, you know, I kind of figured, like, so I'm not going to stress about it.
You did that for everything?
For the race, too.
Yeah.
Because I didn't even think about it.
I was just so hyped to do the race because I've never done a marathon stream and I had always wanted to do one.
And I was like, this is going to be fun.
And then you were like, yeah, but what happens at 3 a.m.
when you and I have 50 viewers?
And I was like, fuck, I never thought about that.
And that's what I thought.
I told you, I don't know if I mentioned this pod, but.
like I went in and I think we were talking about like maybe it was like giveaways or fucking I don't know something in or sub goals or something I was just like yeah I can't wait to do that for the 80 people right for the 60 people watching still because like I genuinely do kind of feel like if I started an out and ring thing at my apartment it wouldn't go well yeah but if you make it an event with sub goals and it's 24 seven and you got different scenes.
different cameras, you're sleeping on camera as well.
That's what draws people in and that's going to keep them there.
But if I was to just do like a four to six hour everyday stream of kind of slowly gone
in the game, I think the numbers would start going down to like 150, 120, 80.
Yep.
Like the interest just wouldn't be there.
Yep, I agree with you.
So I don't know what's, I don't know what's next.
I mean, we got Salt Lake City this weekend, thank God, because I feel like I was, I've been
dopamine crashing.
I haven't worked out in over a week
Or it's been exactly a week
Since I worked out of Salt Lake City
I tell myself
I should I should wake up and shit
Wake up early and do it
But I do need to at least start moving my body
And I want to today
But after this I got a haircut
And then I might just fucking go home
It's crazy in the middle of your elder extreme
The HCS news dropped
Yeah it was right after I beat a ball still
So you were so
happy. I was hype of shit and they were like oh my god
HCS Twitter HCS Twitter maniac
not to ruin your day but
8CS Twitter and then I looked
I'm sure the
Halo pod talked about a little bit but
yeah apparently 8 there would no longer be
an HCS season for next year
for Infinite.
For Halo Infinite.
So there will be no
I guess highly produced tournaments.
There still might be
something because I mean
people were asking like what I think
of it what I think's going to happen and I think
it's just going to be exactly like Halo 5
to where like they did their final season
then it went away then like people
started playing like MCC
Halo 3 throwback tournaments
and like there was I mean
I'm sure the viewership was horrible and
because I didn't watch I didn't even know
it was going on really yeah
but I was also in my own fucking world
I don't know where I was at the time but yeah
I didn't know any of that was even going on I remember
I was just playing like Fortnite and stuff.
Because I think that was like 2018, 2019.
I watched the Tox Boys win a Dreamhack.
Yeah, I didn't watch any of those.
I didn't watch Halo 5 Worlds.
Snakebite Royal to TJ and Brad
because Frosty went and played
God.
God. So Brad was on Tox and
yeah, they just destroyed everyone.
So I'm thinking something like that's going to happen.
I heard formal saying on the pod
that if they want anything to work,
workout and I think LVT might be trying to do it.
But if like if they want something to work out and have Halo teams still practicing
and like going to these tournaments and stuff, like they have to announce something like a big
tournament and like February or March or something.
Like it can't after worlds, it can't just like die down like no one speaks for a few months.
And then in April they announced the fucking some shit tournaments that are good,
three tournaments for all.
August, September, and November or something.
By then, everyone's going to be fucking gone.
I'm hoping that DreamHack can still do something.
There's too much potential, man.
I mean, Halo's such a fun game.
It's a fun game to watch.
And it sucks.
Have you heard rumors of anything if that's coming out?
I mean, besides a Halo One campaign.
A Halo One campaign remastered?
It's not even a fucking, not even multiplayer.
that's what I've heard
and then they're stopping the tournaments
to focus on the new game
and then like obviously
who knows when that'll come out
honestly a Halo 1
remastered campaign makes me
it gives me a little breath of relief
because I thought they were going to remake
Halo 1 and drop it
yeah and
Halo 1
that shit would die so quick
Halo 1 multiplayer would die instantly
yeah like instant
People would play it for like maybe a week and then the old heads would keep playing it for like a month or two.
I don't even know if it would last a week.
Like, because that.
The numbers would go to like 50K down to like 3K within a week.
There's never been a Halo 3 remastered.
Like I think a Halo 3 remastered would at least have.
They're like kind of was with MCC.
MCC, yeah, kind of.
Because it was, it's the same Halo 3, but it's way different on PC.
You can shoot farther.
Sniping is so.
much fucking easier.
Yeah.
So it is a little different.
So I don't know if they would do a Halo 3 thing, especially that they've already
done a Halo 3 thing.
When I, when I, I have, I play like, I play MCC like a few games before we stream.
I just load it up and I click all the boxes and I try to find like a BR Slayer or a whatever.
And so whatever pops up, I play it.
And I've only gotten, I've probably done that for like two weeks now.
And I've only gotten ever into three H2A or H2A.
Has it,
hasn't it?
Halo 2 anniversary.
I've only ever gotten into two H2A games.
Bro,
that game feels so weird.
Really?
Did you like it?
Yeah.
You liked H2A?
I liked how it fell and I liked,
yeah,
I liked H2A.
It's so weird feeling.
And maybe it's like how it looks too.
If you go back,
if you went back and played on Xbox 360,
original Halo 3,
it would feel so shit.
Oh, yeah.
There was, it was my, my buddy, Nick Falco, he, he has a, he has a thing that he does in, in LA where, uh, he has a 360 land.
And him and his boy, like he has a setup.
Yeah.
Got lights and shit.
And like, it's got, it's all decked out.
He's, he's like, I pride myself.
It's the best 360 land in the world right now.
Like, I guarantee it.
I'm like, all right.
And he does this thing where he invites people over, um, twice a month on a Friday.
And they just land.
They just play like, you know, like boys.
I used to love shit like that.
And he was telling me like, he was telling me like, you know, a lot of people that he was friends with,
he's a cod kid, but a lot of people that he's friends with want to play Halo.
And he was like, I got to tell you, bro, Halo 3 is, feels horrible.
Yeah.
Like, it's 30 FPS.
It was horrible online.
It was not a good experience.
Like, we definitely look back with like nostalgia.
It was not as good.
Same with Halo 2.
Because like, mostly just like servers and internet and Halo.
3 was more so about how the game felt
just felt heavy and
slow and even jumping
you're just, it just felt so much
different than what games are now because
everything's just fast-paced.
I mean, I don't even like how Halo 5 felt.
I don't even like how Halo Infinite felt
feels. It just feels, I don't know,
there's just something about it that I don't like.
It's so weird seeing like a game
where the,
like if you look at a BR
a battle rifle, not a battle royale,
a BR
from Halo 3 and then
like the cross hair on it it's like so big
and so like and then you look at it
in Halo Infinite and it's like tight
it's crazy how the game has changed
And I don't know if they'll ever go back to
I think they'll just keep going with these like
Movement based
Halo games I don't think they'll go back to like
slowing it down I mean it's
At least I guess
Halo's not done
You know the HCS
might be gone tomorrow
Or tomorrow next year
because, I mean, it's going to suck for watch parties
because that was definitely a huge,
it's a huge thing for me and APG,
a huge opportunity for us.
So that's going to fucking suck.
I mean, hopefully there's some kind of tournaments
for us to watch.
It's not going to probably go as well for us,
but hopefully there is something to watch.
We should do like, we should do some sort of like BTH,
not like a league, but once a month tournament.
Just for you guys to watch party?
Yeah, but what in Halo Infinite?
Whatever you want.
I just don't know if people are going to, I mean, people will still be playing because, but, yeah, well, I mean, we'll just have to see where the Halo community is at that point.
What are players like legend going to do and bound and renegade?
Yeah, it's like, are they going to just be grinding the new cod and like Frosty?
Like, what are all these players going to be doing?
And they've made enough money to where, like, they'll take a year off and just do whatever the hell they want.
That's kind of what I'm thinking, like.
If I'm formal, what do you do if you're formal?
Probably just play cod.
Probably play cod like just ranked with havoc and shit.
Yeah.
I mean, what else are you going to do?
Try to like get on a CDL team and shit.
That's what I'm, if I'm formal, that's the last thing on my mind.
It's trying to get on a fucking CDL team.
If I'm formal, I'm streaming and doing whatever the fuck I want for like a year.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
A year.
Because like.
And see if Halo can.
bring some shit back maybe go to some tournaments obviously matt has what it takes to play for to play to play to play
but it's a whole beast of stepping into those screens there's such another side of cod it's not like halo
where you just grab a team and you can play like cod like you've got to you got to get 25 mil you got to
fucking suck somebody off to get on a team it seems like like everybody it seems like people people the way
to get on a team is you've got to be in the right spot the right time obviously you got to be great
you got to get your shot.
But you also got to make sure that everybody on the team likes you.
And like you got to talk to the staff at the right time.
You got to think like if if Merck doesn't get that opportunity,
which it was his big break,
then sure, he doesn't get that opportunity.
But if Zinn and Hex hadn't done what they did,
he never would have gotten the opportunity to get there.
And it's like you need something like something so situational to happen already.
Yeah, the stars have to align.
But that being said, he is Matt.
So he can get, he can get.
on any team. Like he, Matt could probably say
free agent for Blackop 7 and
a CDL team would pick him up.
I probably.
Yeah, probably. Like, if you're a lower team, like,
you take formal. Yeah. But is that
lower team, you know, afford formal?
I guarantee you he's already been hit up.
I guarantee it. I wonder if we would do
a Optic Challenger's team
with the Halo team. I would want to
see that. With the halo team? With our
full Halo team? Yeah.
Is bound good at
he would be good at cod
just his they would all be
fucking good like they're just
too skilled and like
mechanically good to not be good at
cod that would be interesting
how quick they pick it up I would
I want to see legend at cod too
legend's nuts
a cod yeah he's played with Ili
oh really yeah also yeah he won v oneed him and beat him
after like not ever playing
like what
it doesn't even make sense
People don't understand how good Renegate is.
Renegate is fucking incredible at Cod.
Yeah.
So I would be interested just to see them play.
I mean, that team would pull numbers.
Yeah, of course.
That team would fucking pull numbers.
It would already be the most popular challengers team.
It'd be the second most popular team in the league.
There'd be the main optic, maybe like New 100T, maybe a phase, and then it'd be
optic challengers.
Yeah.
We're like, yeah, I think it's a good idea, but.
But I mean, I don't know.
Obviously, how that would work would.
If what I say that, because if I'm formal, I'm just waiting.
Like, I, I'll stream, you know, maybe, maybe do some, maybe do some stuff.
Hop on the watch party every once in a while.
Maybe just hit the fucking gym.
Start taking a little something.
What is that I mean?
Like, formal, just does a year transformation.
Do you fucking imagine?
He's just yoked when he comes back?
He'd just get bigger and stronger than me any year.
Yeah, you'd be so pissed.
You'd be so...
Because you know he would let you hear it too.
Yeah, he would.
Holy shit, I'm already fucking bigger than you.
That's so good.
Holy shit.
Holy shit, I'm already fucking bigger than you.
I would love to see that.
I always told, well, formal, and I always tell Nate shot.
I'm like, Nate, I feel like I've seen you do so much.
The one thing I'm waiting on is for you to just, like, get jacked.
And he's talked about it before.
He's like, well, like, I'd start working.
out and I love it and then it's just take a few days off and next thing you know you don't want to do
it again that's how I feel right now you know like you every single pod we've ever done this year
I go to the gym afterwards but I'm not going to the gym afterwards today like I don't know I just
feel so dead still that I know it might sound dramatic oh oh mani I got to play video games for six
days but it was just like no
it's the it's the lack of sleep
the
just the
I mean it's
exhausting doing all that it's
exhausting like because it's not like I'm just
sitting there gaming like I'm fucking
entertaining
like I'm talking nonstop
14 hours straight and even after the 14 hours
I'm laying down I'm still talking to chat I'm reading chat
fucking how I start my days
I wake up I start talking to chat
it's just super long days
horrible sleep.
So it's just afterwards.
I just feel so dead right now.
It's so funny hearing you in the tent.
Like talk on the mic in the tent.
It's just a tent.
I was going to try to like make it interesting.
Well,
I should have figured something out and I'm sure if I would have like told Atlas
he would have figured something out for me.
But like I was tired of having my,
I would have my phone and my Twitch chats up.
But then I'm like, what am I just going to sit here in my tent with my mic right here
and just look at Twitch chat?
Like, and if no one's saying anything, like,
So I wish I would have just had like a side little iPad or something with just chat open.
Because eventually in the tent it just got to the point where I just threw the fucking mic to the side and just like laid there with Chui.
And it was plotting of like, all right, how am I getting out of here?
And it felt like I kept getting bit and shit, but I don't think I was.
Like I would look at my leg at a certain lighting and it would look like a lump.
And I'd be like, what the fuck?
I am getting bit.
But then it'd just be like a vein.
And I'm like, okay, never mind.
But then like I feel it on my.
back and my legs.
It was, and I was just sitting in there.
It was probably like three something a.m.
And I was like, how am I going to get out of here?
I was like, by 6 a.m., I'm probably going inside.
Like, there's no way I'm falling asleep out here because that's just going to, if I fall asleep out there, wake up and it's 8 a.m., I'm hot as fuck.
Like, oh, that just would have been the worst way to start the day.
Yeah, that would have sucked.
So it hit 6 a.m. and I was just like, all right, fuck this.
Started bringing into the bed.
I use chewy as my.
excuse. I'm like, God,
Chewy keeps wanting to go in and out and
out and in and out. Like, fuck this. I'm done.
I got, I wanted
to. But realistically,
I was like, yes. Like,
nah. All right, let's take this bed back inside.
Then I had motherfuckers. I remember
I think it was the first night.
The first night of sleeping
there. If you haven't, if you didn't
watch, I was sleeping on stream. Literally
it was like a military cot. Right.
Like, it wasn't long enough for me.
My arms hang off the fucking side.
The pillows were shit.
Wasn't that comfortable, but it also wasn't too bad at the same time.
But first night probably played to like 3.30, close to 4 a.m., got off, 8, talk to chat, and then eventually lay down.
It's like 5 a.m. By the time I fall asleep, it's probably like 6 a.m.
Yeah.
At 10 in the morning, I wake up just because that's usually when I'll just open my eyes, even if I'm on like no sleep.
10 a.m. I wake up and I'm like, fuck, there's no way I'm falling back of sleep.
Look at my chat. People are just, he's up, he's up, he's up.
There's a clip of me farting in my sleep.
Some five, five bombs start going off.
So I'm like, all right, let me just get the fuck up. It's like 10.30.
And I'm like, chat, this is going to be a long, this is how I started my first night.
Next morning, I'm like, this is going to be a long fucking week because I got horrible sleep.
I was, I was like, I probably slept like three to four hours.
And some dude just instantly types, you did not just sleep three to four hours.
Like we literally, we saw you like.
We were watching.
We were watching, bro.
You slept, you did not only sleep three to four hours.
I'm just like, yeah, I fucking did.
I was like, bro, you guys saw me laying down at 6 a.m.
One, that doesn't even mean I was asleep.
But two, like, you just saw me sleep from like 6 a.m. to 10 a.m.
and that's not including the 500 times I woke up in between.
If you click every 10 minutes on my rebroadcast, it would just be me that different fucking
angles.
And I'm like, how bad of a sleeper am I?
But yeah, some dude was just like arguing with me about how much I just slept.
So like I can't use it.
I can't talk about being tired because I'm lying about how long I slept.
You're in an argument 10 seconds into being awake.
Yeah, 10 seconds into being awake.
I sit down.
I'm like, chat, I think this is going to be a long one.
I think I just slept like three, four hours.
And then instantly, so it was, dude, you did not only sleep three to four hours.
And then even days after that, I'm going to sleep at like six, seven a.m.
Wake up at noon, obviously another shit night of sleep.
And people are like, oh, my God, he's still asleep.
Because they see it's noon.
Right.
But it's like, he's still asleep.
How is he still sleeping?
I'm like, it's been five hours of horrible sleep.
lights on fucking breeze
waking me up.
Did you imagine being Emily C.C.
Like, dude. Oh, who
She's the one that just streams 24-7?
Yeah, she streams all the time.
Like, constantly at all times is live.
Like,
because, I mean, I was almost thinking about it.
I was like, man, if I could just,
if I could do just constant marathons.
Because like when I left, I was like,
I felt, I feel like I lost purpose once I left that out.
else this time like i enjoyed having like atlas there and yeah if anything was needed and
but like if we really did it right and atlis was just like my guy like got a house he lived there
and he's just yeah i told him you can live here for free let's get clips edits like you're my guy
now like that would be that would be cool and for him to just like give me ideas and yeah tell me
you know you need to react to all these videos so we can get a video like i that's
I feel like that's what I need
and that would be the next step.
It's just, I don't know.
Maybe I'm just a lazy bastard,
but I feel like what would be good for me
and my next step of doing shit like this
is having someone like that,
but having him like relying on him,
like his job is for the thumbnails,
the editing, everything.
I sit down and I do it
and I'll sit here for 12 to 14 hours or whatever.
Yeah.
But like you make the magic happen out of this
and start pumping shit out on like Instagram, TikTok,
YouTube, Twitter,
fucking whatever.
I mean, that realistically
is now what everyone does.
Yeah.
But I just don't know like
when it's not moments
like this Eldon Ring Marathon,
I don't know what else.
I can see that for moments like this,
but on just a day-to-day weekly
streaming type thing,
I don't see clips.
Like, I don't get clips like that.
Like, I'm in my apartment.
I'm being more quiet.
I'm fucking overthinking about how loud I am.
I'm getting
noise complains so it just it takes the
it takes my
natural streaming
state and just like
negates the possibilities
of what it could be
so you need a whips you need like a
you need to move in oh I need a house
I need a house in the middle of the no in the middle
of nowhere to fucking scream
aka that house I had like a year ago
yeah the one that you had actually like five months ago
and then we finally sold yeah that one yeah that would
have been perfect it was a four bed
I don't want to get into it
I won't get into it
Did you hear about the
I guess we can end on the
What's the
Banks is stepping away from phase clan
Did you read into any of that?
No, because I don't really know anything about crypto
And it's all about crypto
It's all about the MLG coin
Type stuff
Yeah and Matt Craig's not here to click that link
He's not here to click that link
Well apparently Banks is defending himself
And I think a lot of it was about the MLG coin
Yeah
Do you know what, like, sort of happened with that?
No.
I don't even know what a rug pull is.
I'm assuming it is you...
It's just like there's...
They'll talk about a coin.
They'll get people on board with that coin.
To buy it.
And then once it hits his heat, then they sell their shit.
It plummets and it goes to zero.
And everyone else loses.
Okay, that's what I thought.
And banks, Banks swears he's never scammed anyone.
And to be honest, I don't think banks, like, is out there scamming people.
But I do think there's a...
I mean, that's what crypto is, though.
This is what I'm investing in.
This might be next up.
And then, okay, all your followers sort of get into it.
And they start putting their money in.
And then boom, suddenly it hits a peak.
And everyone starts selling.
And a few people made millions.
And then 100,000 lost 500, 200, 300, 300, 300 bucks.
You make anything off of MLG coin, Matt?
I lost like 2.5 grand.
Damn.
And I was up a couple grand.
But it just fucking plummeted.
And then like when it plummets,
how fast does it plummet?
Like a day.
So technically you could sell within,
it just never goes back up.
You could sell within that day.
Like, do you just miss it?
Like you could see it going down,
but it always goes down.
It always goes down.
It always goes.
So it's like you don't know,
like you'll see it going down.
like, should I sell? No, it'll go back up. And then it goes back up. Then it'll go down a little
further. You're like, well, it's down a little further. Maybe I should just buy more. Then you buy
more. But then it goes down a little further than that. And then you're like, fuck. But then it goes
up. So you're like, okay, now I'm good. Maybe it'll go up again. But then it'll just go down a little.
And you're like, no, I'll just stay. Then it'll go down even further. And you're like,
well, I'm already like in this. It'll go up again. Then it just goes down further. And you're like,
well, there's no turning back. I'm losing it all. So it's like there is technically a way to
fucking get out of it. But like that's what
these fucking meme and alt coins
and whatever the fuck people are buying
in crypto, they mean nothing.
It is a scam. You are not
buying it to have that coin.
You are buying it to hopefully
you get money and someone
else loses money. That's the name
of the game. Right. I mean, you're not
I wouldn't say you're scamming.
I mean, it is kind of scammy
to like, if you have some kind of
fan base and like you get everyone
involved, which I think banks
people look at banks with this MLG coin like he
he was pushing that and there's a reason I got in it Zinney got in it
Bose got in it um I feel like a couple other people here got in it
so is that what happened with Hawk Tua coin
I guess but she started a coin
yeah but I think with hers it was like her people were managing
she knew nothing about it yeah um but yeah it was kind of like that
but and like I remember at the peak
we
I mean I don't want to say too much
but at the peak of the M-O-G coin
we asked should we sell
and we were told no because
you don't want to just like sell now
make a little bit of a profit
when it could fucking quadruple
and that's when
that's when you really win big
and then we didn't sell
and it went nothing but down after that
and then we were just like
I mean
and Banks said he didn't sell
and then banks the other day
said showed him selling his he finally sold his emoji coin and he lost like 110 grand so it's like
i guess he made nothing off of it but then there's other people who say like yeah but people like banks
will make multiple accounts they'll show one account to where they're not selling like say you put
a hundred grand in this account a hundred grand in this account a hundred grand in this account
did a camera just shut off yeah one of the camera shut off 100 grand in this account 100 grand in this account
100 grand in this account and they're all in the MLG coin.
You can show MLG coin spikes.
This account you sell.
You get like hella profit.
It goes down.
It spikes again.
You sell with this because you're like,
yeah, it's probably just going to go down.
But then in this account,
you keep it.
And it just goes down and down and down and down.
And you will show people like,
I didn't sell.
I'm not scamming people.
That's, I'm not saying that's what banks did.
I'm saying that's what.
That's what people are like,
I've heard that thrown at crypto people before.
to where they'll only show their one wallet
to where they are losing
or they won't put as much money in that wall
they'll only put 50k in but in the others
they put 200k 200k so they're only
they'll lose 50 grand to not look like they're scamming
but then on these accounts they just made a mill
yeah but I don't know
I'm not saying that's what banks did I really don't think banks
is scamming I think he has
too much going for him
and there's way too many other ways for him to make money
to be worried about like crypto scamming.
But at the end of the day,
that crypto shit is all just like a scam.
Like it's your winning and someone else is losing.
Remember NFTs?
You're stradding,
you're strategizing to win against other people.
Other people are going to lose.
Yeah, the fucking NFTs.
I remember Hex was trying to get us into that.
I was just like, bro, that doesn't even make sense.
Like I can screenshot that
and just make it my,
profile pick. No, but you own it. Own what? No one can I don't care about that monkey.
Like that's that means it's not even like a it's not even physical. It's just a picture.
The NFT shit is just I'm like what I'm like either I'm behind mentally. No,
I think a lot of people made a lot of money. I'm almost positive. It was like money laundering.
I'm almost positive. Yeah. Like there are people that bought an NFT for $25,000 and it's worth
four cents now. Yeah.
because it's nothing.
At the end of the day, it is nothing.
Yeah, and that's all these mean, mean coincidences shit.
It's literally nothing.
All right.
Well, I appreciate you guys watching.
That's going to do it for this episode.
I don't know of the Likast.
If this episode gets 5D000 likes, we'll do a DLC marathon.
We're going to end up doing it anyway.
Yeah.
I'm going to have to, we'll figure something out.
We'll get it funded.
Yeah, we'll get it funded or something.
Also, next episodes, we know the, I think these last three episodes have just been us, basically talking out and ring.
I don't know if they like that as much as when we do it when we have a guess.
So we're going to try to get Merck on maybe next week or something.
We're going to get back into our regularly scheduled programming and not have three episodes straight of out and ring.
But that'll be, that'll be in the future here.
Salt Lake City this weekend.
Make sure you tune in.
Twitch.tv.
slash BTH Maniac,
the official Halo watch party
of the HCS community
or something like that.
But yeah, that's going to do it, man.
Matt Craig,
play the outro music.
