The Flycast - LEAKING SCUMPS DM’S | The Flycast Ep. 106

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

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People are like, man, you just need a kid. And I'm like, are you sure? I think you got a few, man. I think you got like a two or three steps before that. You got the house already. Got the house. You got the dog already. The house is like...

I think those are the steps. You got the house, you just need the kid to put the... You know, like... Now I just need kid. You would get a crazy dad buff. I know for a fucking fact you would. I would use that kid for views. Welcome, welcome back. James, shut up.

Quiet on the set. Welcome back to another episode of the best podcast on the interwebs. The Flycast. Did you ever get 100,000 an episode now? Welcome back. Damn. That was a high. Yeah, that was a lot.

Wait, are our views? Wait, shut up. Hold on. Okay. Pam has a surprise. Pam said shut up. We have a special. Special.

Real special. Real. Oh, he's special. He's special. Aren't we all? Special guests today on the podcast. And he brought a gift. He brought a gift.

Dude, it's crazy. I also have a gift for you, but I didn't bring it. The GG. Yes. I'm actually glad because yours is so much better. Championship trophy. I think we've talked about this. Maybe a few times.

A few times. I really. Look at that trophy. I think I made some jokes. about it like I cared but I really didn't care and I want if you want this he I kind of wanted it well first of all but I should have that because Mike would do anything for that fucking trophy oh Mike probably ordered his own yeah he might have ordered his I hope he did too deserved it man but where can I put this

put it right here man you know also Mike texted me and asked if we want to be in his corner for a battle in Houston yeah but I don't I did I would That'd be kind of funny. Look at that fucking. He just gets three-ode. We're just like... We're trying to... We're like those awkward hype men in the back.

But no one's fucking... That's funny. The crowd's not going with it. I did name her, by the way. What's her name? Her name's Gigi. Gigi? Gigi.

I like that. I like that. Yeah. So if you guys don't remember, back in November, the boys competed in a kickoff series. called the GGCS, which was 16 teams full of content creators,

pro players, S&D stars, um, and the likes. And it was for $150,000 and maniac homage, Mike P, the battle rapper, and Skies slash scrappy. Scrap slash.

Who was your SV? Blast. I couldn't remember. We had a few different force. Ended up taking the intent. entire tournament, which was... Somehow, some way. So sick. And then I came into the office, or you sat it on my stream over there.

And then I came in one day and it was just gone. Pam has been sitting in Pam set up. I think that's how it went. And then I was like, what the fuck? I was like, Pam fucking took it. And I really don't even remember. I don't know if Pam texted me, told me he took it or something. But I was like, damn, Pam took the fucking trophy.

And then I made a few. I really didn't. I cared, but I didn't care. Like, honestly, if you want it, you can have it. I feel, I feel like it means more to him than me. Just leave it on the side. And I don't have, uh, I mean, I'll find a, I can find a spot to put it. We can take, we can put it.

We could fit it on one of the selves. Reality check. And then I actually have another present for the set to it. But I honestly, I think Pam earned it. Pam played good. Thanks, man. Pam played better than I expect. Pan played, you know, there's like the pro.

They're kind of carrying. Then there would always other, some other teams would have like. The symphony. They would have the person that's not the pro, but like you need them to step up. The methods pro player, then like, Bo's second or they would, they would just have like, they would just have like someone like a good. A good second area. A good competitive S&D player. And I'm, I'm just thinking we have Pam the sniper.

Yep. So I wasn't expecting as much as what you did. I won't gas myself up. I'm not going to gas myself up for anything about that tournament because I think it was a scrappy tournament. It was a month long. I learned a lot. But one thing that I'm really proud of is the original teams that I put together. I think it was damn near perfect.

If all the teams had stayed together, it would have been such a fun tournament. to watch and I'm so glad that a team the because the root of every team is the three people and then a pro player or a good ass player a pro player decent player high player and I and I tried to make it where like all the all the teams like like at least meshed well to get like at least knew of each other or had well I don't know there was any Bose Natasha okay with that I don't know if that was no that wasn't the original squad the original squad the original squad was Bose. No, no, the original squad was Zen,

Jack, Cloaksy, and Nicewig. That was the original squad. And everyone on that team told me, told me they could play. Yeah. But then Nicewig and Cloak backed out. So then we had to encourage. Right. Oh yeah. And then Jack left.

Fucking three people on one team. That's a pain me ass. So, well, with Jack, he had told me beforehand that he couldn't make the second weekend. But then Jack me this long paragraph. It was like, yo, I, I love you as a brother, but like, please don't invite me to, to call a duty tournaments anymore because I don't like saying no to you, but I also am not that person anymore. Like, I can't. Competing like, bro, it's, it stresses me

out too much. And I mean, I appreciate the honesty. And then I invited them to another one and I said, just be honest with me. Like, I don't care. If you say no, I'm not going to be like, Jack Jim playing my tournament. Yeah. You know what I? mean like just tell me no like if we're that close of friends just be like fuck no i almost i almost wanted to say no just if you would have said no i would have been pissed i would have been mad you know who did say no technically those boz but i mean if we had boz like i don't think that he will i don't think you guys would have no because boz wasn't is it wasn't like a hard carry boz knows how to play but like he's been out the scene for a while like you know we need to

needed a crackhead and we had a crackhead we had multiple crackheads we did we rotated the crackheads what skies scrap did we have anyone all of our forests whenever we played with them they were just kind of dominated yeah they were disgusting but I think that like shows what we bring to the other three brought to the table you without the chemistry when we play with skies dominated when we played with crap we dominated it's it's funny because like when i when i get to this part of the year i already start thinking about like the offseason the just the in general off season and also the event but this time of year like instead of thinking about the off season i'm more thinking about

gcccc season like two really because it was so dude it was so much work so nerve-racking it was so much work but it was so fun every week just to because i was i was I wanted to do was it every Wednesday night for a month every Wednesday night because then you feel like it's like your your softball league yeah oh Wednesday night that's our match days did I fucking loved wait and dude I loved like knowing it's a Monday or a Sunday just honestly like just the routine waking up going for a walk get some fresh air shoot some bots shower get some hot coffee yeah wake up to Nick's message Discord like all right hop on I'm now I'm first in the discord bullshit talk a

little you know watch some matches here and there say we're gonna go through private match when really we just play pubs just oh dude the whole the whole event was just like such a blast dude like it's just wild stressful there's so much there's so much potential in call the duty there really is but i just feel like there's so much money that's wasted on like i think that when it comes to an on a kickoff tournament i think we used every dollar to get to squeeze every ounce of like entertainment out because like you think about your run how crazy it was you guys went game five round 11 like seven times so many it was insane it was like every series i think every series besides the one we like lost to set yeah you guys in in which set said i was kind

of say maybe i shouldn't say publicly but me and set agreed before the yeah you can say it now it's It's been so long. It's been so long. It's been so long. It's what was it called? Was it the 5K? It was the division finals. The division finals.

The division finals. It was us versus scumps team. And me and scump agreed that I think it was the day before we were like, hey, or Scump brought it up. He's such a like cheap. He was like, he was like, bro. He was like, bro, I just want to make sure I get something out of this tournament. He was like, yeah, how about like no matter what, each of us

we'll just split it like 2,500 each. And I was like, I thought about it. And I was like, I mean, like, we can definitely beat them. Where am I in this conversation? Nowhere. It's just me and Seth. Between you and Seth. What is that all about?

I don't think cess teammates those. You had to hit up dropped or Daltush. You would have had to do something like that. I don't know him like that. At least I lived with you guys. None of cess. I mean, yeah, you would have just had to figure it out yourself. Thanks.

We were going to split it just like we each get 2,500. and then he ends up beating us. I was like, well, at least I got 2,500. And then we ended up winning the whole thing, and I just haven't brought it up. Because I feel like if I would have won that, if I would have won the divisionals, and then he would end up winning the whole thing,

I don't think he would have, like, tried to smash that. You never know. Would he have still tried to get this $2,500 for me? You never know. Because I won the 10K. So I was like, I can't go ask him for like $2,500. Dude, you know what's crazy? You know the, remember the Pro Sem tournament?

the mw2 one yeah no the mw 3 one the pro sem you the bomb bash one or is it oh wait wait the pro se the one the one where like george killed abisi at the end oh that one's crazy i just got the money for that

yesterday i wonder if i have to pay out just to mean so in case anyone wants to know how that works like like i had to set up like the tst t lc as like a uh I can't remember the word, but like basically an tournament organizer, an official tournament organizer for Activision.

So it was the first time. So it was a bunch of processing that went into it. So I just got the money for the pro sim, the crew, the 3V3, I forgot what was the cutthroat cup. And then the crew battle, which was like something that Bose are between Seth and Zuma. So I have to pay out like 38 players in the next two weeks. What about the Bobbash? Bobbash should have already been paid out. What the fuck?

I wonder if I got paid. Because I like didn't really check. That was through boom. So like boom did everything. Oh. And then the GCS was through Optic. So Optic did all that. But through the other three for those other three tournaments,

it's just me and Alice. And I'm going to be in my, I'm going to be in my Wells Fargo account like, that's got to be annoying. This goes to scrappy. This goes to shotsy. How do you, whenever you get all the players that can play do you like do you have a notepad and you're

writing down are you on your PC and a oh dude like to try to figure out the teams well it's probably spread everything out I was probably in there but yeah uh like you write them all out dude my I have so I have two whiteboards in my like upstairs loft and like what should I use to stream and like my office oh yeah yeah I always forget I imagine every time you talk about your place. You know exactly what it's like. I'm like, oh, yeah. Imagine the crazy things Pam did in that loft.

Anyway, imagine the crazy things Spratt did in that loft. Maybe that's why I want Spratt to stay in the UK. So he doesn't have to like come over here and like share what we did over there. But yeah, dude, it was like. So I would write down heavy hitters. I would write down like Nate shots, scump, myth, like symphony, Aiden. I would write down people that... For the views?

Yeah, yeah. Oh. Heavy hitters are the views? Views. Shotsy, formal. I'm writing down people that I think would get over 4,000 viewers. And then I think about who would be a pro player,

unless they are a pro player. So like, Skump, you can't put pro player on his team, but you can pair him with Nade shot because people want that. You know what I mean? And so I'm just, I literally, it feels like, what's that TV show with all the red lines? And he's like looking like a crazy guy. Oh yeah

You know what I'm talking about? Always sunny In Philadelphia And he's like Looking at like the The all the newspaper clippings And like It looks like a crackhead

That's what it feels like To like make a team And making a team For the for the off season When it's only four teams It's fun Because like I'm like Who am I pairing Shotsie with

Oh Shotsie and Scum Work great Big Timer and Scum You know Yeah he can't lose with that But like Or like the old like Aix Crem, Aks Crem, Clayster.

Like, that's great. People always want to watch them. Killa comes in and plays with Bowes. Like, of course, it's so easy. But for 16 teams when you're trying to get outside of Call of Duty. And then as the weeks go on and one person cancels here. Oh, dude. I don't know what I'm going to do.

The day of the day of the tourney, three, five pros cancel. I have no idea what I'm going to do next year. It's going to have to be, if you say yes, you have to play. and you guys get one sub and the sub has to be approved. Bro, even just thinking about another S&D tourney stresses me out. I don't know how like, I said that to, I said that to Bose. And he was like, oh, dude, I was like, dude, how do you, like, how did you go?

Especially back in the day when there was, like, GVs and stuff. Like, people, all people did was like S&D all day every day. All they did. Like, how? It's so, like, it's so much of my, like, heart. that it can't be like good I love it so much stress like post is like oh dude I love it

like I can't even just playing matchmaking if I get search I mean it kind of the better I got the more like I feel like comfortable and chill I was on the maps but search and destroy is just fucking

stressful especially when it's like a big turn I fucking loved like search and destroy like on this game because you know it's all the old maps that I literally know Oh yeah. I know these maps more than any map than I think of no of any maps. So like, bro, winning this shit on these maps, dude, was such a fucking, like... Nostalgia. It was such a good shit. It was like a good shit, Austin. You fucking did it. Like, and, and like in the, in the whole grand scheme of all this shit, like... Stahlia, your inner child, dude. Oh, the inner child winning. Man. It felt good, huh? Yeah, dude. Are you still riding that high? No, I was.

I was like, damn, that's a long high. I was, I was riding it for like three weeks. For a while. I mean, just, I mean, literally imagine when you won your first tournament, though. Like, like, this is the closest I'm ever going to get to anything like that. You know what I mean? Like, it was against good players as well. And in no way am I, like, ever trying to, like, downplay it.

But like, that's what I'm saying, man. Did you feel bad to take the trophy? Did you ever feel bad winning against a good friend of yours? No, like a nine Hela? I feel it more as a, did you feel bad about Derry? I feel it more as a spectator. I imagine. Dude.

Because Dirty climbing up on that, on that tank. Do you remember that? And they're good friends. Like, good friends. We're homies, man. Like, I can't. If that happened, if, like, it was George. And he climbed up on the tank and I killed him and then we won.

I would be so hyped that we won. But part of me would be like, dude, if it's not for that tank. I feel it more spectating than I do playing. Like. seeing my friend or even just like not even friends it's like even just people and watching this past halo tournament seeing like it was like wutum did you watch it all the keyboard of mouse player for halo it is crap whooom i was like cheering for their team and then seeing them lose i felt like i can just like feel the pain and it's just such a bad feeling and obviously like when

optic loses like i i feel i always feel so empathetic for the losing team you and it's just such a bad feeling and team. Even when Optic wins, I kind of feel bad for the teams we beat. But I don't know. I just always felt like I've been...

Are we the best podcast in Halo? We're the only podcast in Halo. People are telling me to start a Halo podcast. Just because you're the only one doesn't mean like... It doesn't void you from being the best. I don't even know what a BXR is. If anything, that makes you solidified.

I know what an instaspload is. That shit was hype. Lucid insipotis? Yeah. How was the Lucid Instploaded somebody? Oh, Did he?

Yeah, and then, Walsh did, I forgot, you talked to Walsh, he invented that. Yeah, someone,

someone was like, I forgot who was, I think it was Bravo was commenting. It was like, Dave Walsh is in the building somewhere. I was like, this shit is so hype. Yeah.

How was the Walshie? Around the bar. You guys, did you mention me at all? Oh, of course. You're not, I don't know if you should be,

say my name. One of the questions of behind the bar, which is like the, extension where we like play beer pong we ask each other like uncomfortable questions was maniac good one of them was what was the most

overrated overrated halo pro I was I was anything but overrated no one gave a fuck about me and uh yeah one of the the cod

so I had to answer in call of duty he had to answer in Halo so I said I'm not gonna say eggs and then I was like aches and through and then he was like I don't know who to say and I was like just say maniac man and he goes maniac

I think I might be a little biased but I think I'm one of the most underrated I mean it depends on what you're talking about gameplay wise probably but like it's just one of those things where you and flame joined optic

and now you guys are the face of Halo because Halo is in such a weird spot somehow some way I don't know how, bro, I never... Imagine being lethal. Lethals like, dude, how is Nick getting all these viewers? Dude, I don't know. Bro, do you remember these guys playing the qualifiers in the...

Dude, it was so hype, dude. It was like, one of those hype. It was like 28,000 viewers. So hype, dude. I was so fucking... Fucking flame took the fucking viewers, because I was too, like... Cracked?

I didn't like... I was cracked, but, like, I just did... I've never liked people. I think maybe it's just an anxiety thing. thing my whole life, but I never liked when people watched my screen when I was playing. It's like you got an invite to a $150,000 Call of Duty tournament and never streamed once. I was, I just didn't. That's why I was, I was, bro, S&D was already, I was already stressed.

I just know if I would have streamed. I would have like, just stream your face. I would have played to not look bad instead of just like. Was it, was it gutty of me to not stream with a delay? I mean bro no one's gonna cheat that's what I'm saying like Seth thought you cheated 100% why the fuck is he thinking that

Seth is a freak dog Seth dies in apex and he's like oh my god he's stream sniper and it when I was playing with I don't know what it's like to stream with 10,000 doors I have no idea what it's like you're gonna feel targeted dude I tried to do a customs rebirth lobby with my subs

first game I instantly started fucking hating my tier three subs dude because they're dropped, bro, I'm landing revert. And then, like, they're landing prison. And then I have four teams pushing me. They're all in my chat. Got him.

I'm getting so mad at them, dude. I'm just like, I know you guys aren't stream-slapping me, but I know. That's why when we do community nights, like, I do stuff for the subs. I got it. I don't do stuff where, like, they play against me. Yeah, I don't know what I would do for community night. I like throw, like, little, like, you know, like do little fun things where they play against each other and we watch.

Yeah. Like, that's way better. Because they're gonna stream. Dude, they're gonna stream. Like, you instantly start to build like this resentment for the next stream. You're just like,

yo, you were just like dropping on me last stream. And I feel like I would just- Don't fucking give me five. Give me fucking 10. Yeah, I would get enraged. I fucking,

my rage lately in video games is like, I don't know what's going on. know if it's the TRT, then my testosterone is too high or something, but like, I've been fucking rage. Yesterday was the maddest, and I feel like I said this last week about

another time of me being the maddest in the long time. But yesterday, just like playing Halo Infinite, the game felt heavy. I'm fucking kind of getting shit on. This guy that that's been teabagging me

since the release of Halo Infinite, this matchup against him he's teabagging me again I'm playing like shit he comes and then he comes I'm like so we lose we lose like a close game like it was like a it was like a

um imperian like overtime CTF like it went to overtime we fucking lose and he just comes in my chat after he's like I know you're so mad right now or like something like that and I was just in like that I was already mad

and I was like he might enter my chat right now like I know watching the stream like he had like the op like he used always rock the optic skin and he would have the optic name plate or whatever those are those are bad and then he comes into my chat there's a bad moment the the the words that enter my brain when someone does that bro he comes into my chest says i know you're so heated right now or something like that and i was like that like i literally said it out loud i was like that actually just made me really fucking mad that you just said that and he was just like ha ha ha ha ha ha and i'm like

dude you're like I you don't understand you really don't get it dude it was so like I start thinking about like bad things like it got to like we match like three three games straight by the third game he's in my chat I was like like Kevo you know you're fucking actually awful right like you've been and I'm just like actually pissed he was like you're bad too and I was like I know I'm fucking bad and then like I end up getting off a little bit after and I'm just still so fucking mad I had to go to the gym They're like, I got off stream. My girl and Michelle was like, do you want to go to the gym?

I got into this one like. Bro, why is your Michelle voice always like that? Do you want to go to a gym? I come and lay in bed all days. I was just like, I have to go to the gym. I must go. And I don't know. The gym is such a fucking needed part of my life.

And I don't, it's, I will, I feel like in real life, I'm not angry. But something about video games sparks it so hard. And it's always been like that. I've never been like a, maybe as a kid I was a little angry. But I've always been like more chill and other people get angry about some shit. And I'm just like, what? But in video games, I just get so fucking mad. And it's always been the case.

And it just fucking, I don't know how people, I don't know what it is. I don't think it's about me like winning or losing. I think it's just like how good I'm playing or something but I would have been mad always so mad I would get mad when I care sorry to interrupt you no you're good I get I get mad when I like care and I and I think how I've combated that for better or for probably for worse is I just stopped caring you have to but I tell myself you have such a better time when you just when I get on when I get on like when I get on stream I like don't care I'll fucking guys we we we start off stream losing seven straight yay like i genuinely don't care and then it'll be like

all right let's like let me step it up and then it'll be a close ass game or so and then i lose i'm like fuck then i'm like all right let's fucking win this and then i can't win i'm like oh my god and then it just i start off my stream not caring like i i've tried to flip that switch like no one gives a fuck about how well I'm playing on stream. Yeah. In that tournament, but it's so hard to flip the switch to in the fucking GCCS tournament.

Like, I, like, I would only ever get mad as if, like, I just knew, like, I could have done something,

like, literally better. Like, if there was literally just one play, I'm sure everyone's like that. If there's just one play, you're just like, fuck,

that one's eating me. Like, dude, I didn't have my stream open for the whole finals, the whole day. That's a true. And I just didn't look at it at all.

So, Like when I dropped a fucking donut and Karachi and fucking grand finals, dude, I knew I was getting ripped to shreds. Oh, did you? I did drop a donut, yeah. I was getting ripped to shreds. I just know it. You just know it.

That's so wild. Yeah, yeah. You just know it, dude. I don't think I've ever streamed. Actually, one time I closed chat. And that's big, but that's because I was, I was playing in this, like, random 146 v6 tournament for 150,000. And I was like, and it was just, it was me.

Dude, I can't even remember who was on my team. It was like a bunch of like huge streamers. And none of them played cod. And so it was me who played cod. And then like Aiden on the other team who played cod. And then 10 people in the lobby who didn't play cod. So I was like, I just have to go as hard as possible. Like that's all I can really do.

And luckily Aiden had Miskip on his team. so like he was trash and I didn't have too many I had Seagull on my team was like a Overwatch guy and then like Shiv who was an apex guy so they could aim and so I but yeah

that's the only time I just like blows chat and Halo 5 I could not scrim with chat open it was so I can imagine but scrimming is different like you have you have other things you have to work on well yeah but it's probably

different for our Halo team now well I don't know if they stream scrims but we used to stream scrims I don't I can't remember if we streamed I think we streamed like some online stuff no but in the beginning I would just like minimize chat like I couldn't

have chat open bro it must be so annoying to just like scrim and then have chat fucking backseat your scrims oh it's I'm just I'm thinking I'm better than every single one of you everyone dude have you ever have you ever played a I don't know if it's the same in Halo as it isn't cod but like

cod competitive like Twitter or cod competitive Reddit they're all getting slammed all of them are going to get slammed by your average challengers player yeah the ever I mean the scump 1v1 that's that's why it's so funny because you know all those guys I mean they're all they're all like optic homies

but like that those are your average average like skill level for like oh the one v ones at like the tournament yeah the one v ones that like scump does yeah and now shots he's going to do one seth you those are the people telling set how to play set has to try to die in those like he has to attempt to let the other person get a kill and there those are the people was there any of that because wasn't it like if some would you get like a hundred dollars per kill or something. I think we had to make it that because at first the when the pitch, because I was a part of

like the pitch when that series happened, we were going to put Seth outside, put him on a, put him on a setup, have a, have a poster board that says one v one me. If you beat me, you win 10 grand or you win 50 grand. I think was the original. And then we were and then we did, we ran the first one, which it went back down to 10 grand. and we were like no one's ever going to beat him yeah Seth could play for a hundred days straight and no one would beat him like you would have to fly in a person to beat him that's still really good oh yeah for sure he'd be but also the general public is horrible

like atrocious you guys you guys us too oh me too though it's not like we're amazing I'm just saying like the left the the skill of the skill level is so different. It's crazy. Wait, so now is, is it a $100

per kill now? I don't know. Rod's changed it up. Because you have, it's $100 per kill? Yeah, it's $100. Now is this $100 of his money or just like whatever's there? $100 of $100. Bro, this question for the record.

What makes him so, what makes a man so like cheap? Good parents? I don't know. I don't know. No, is it something about... Well, it's his mom. His mom manages his money.

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My mom tried. I didn't learn anything about money growing up. Me either. I wish I had. My parents were always scared of money because they both of them, well, my dad especially grew up

with not a lot of money. So like he worked for money. But then never taught me anything about money. No one kind of tries us about shit. I remember, I've said this a few times when Pam first moved into the to the scuff house like

I saw all his subscribers the views he was getting I was like this dude's like a millionaire and then like his first day there we went to I think it was Chipotle and he bought my Chipotle and I was like let's go I was like this is gonna be like Pam's always gonna be hooking me up like I'm surrounded

by money like I'm broken shit that was the last time Pam ever that was the last time Pam ever paid for something for me I thought you were gonna say Then he sent me a text and was like, yo, that was $6.99. You can pay me back.

No, he yoked me out the first time. And then like, Scuff House was crazy. I was so broke in the scuff house. Bro, the scuff house. Bro, when I had $4,000, like, oh, I was.

People would try to compare, like, optic and phase, like, almost like content. Obviously, phase did way bigger numbers. But, like, those phase guys were like,

they had so much fucking money because of all the views they were getting and whatever else. Like, I remember when I had like $4,000 in the scuff house, I was like, fuck yeah. Dude, my card bounced three times in the scuff house. Damn. Yeah. You know, I would have had you guys.

Well, I'm not going to. Dude, that's the weird part about the scuff house is there's two millionaires that live there. And then there's me and Nick. And it's, and those are the, those are the highest and the lowest. And then there's like, you know, you've got Flame who's got Red Bull money. and then Bose who, I never, I don't know as of right now if Bose has $10,000 as a bank account

or $700 grand. I have no idea. It could be both. And so you never know, it was like always. Apparently Bose made like decent money during like the MLG TV days. Oh, for sure.

MLG TV days were kind of nuts. They were kind of nuts. And probably got some from the views of being with like Nate shot. Still pissed. I missed. that whole wave whenever Natechot was there and like that like 2013 optic wave you didn't miss the wave you know it hit that wave I missed that way no you didn't that was it whenever like

somehow jacap has 700,000 followers on Twitter like shit like that like there's like there's just that beginning wave okay that way I did was kind of crazy like even when I first moved into the scuff house it was I mean I've said this a hundred times but like Like, it was still, it was not instant instantaneous, like, success at all. Dude, not at all. But followers, bro, when I announced I joined, I think I gained 11,000 followers in 12 hours. Yeah. It was fucking crazy.

Yeah. Followers for sure. Bro, I've had the same Instagram followers in Twitter followers. I saw, I saw randomly your Twitter following is, I mean, you're much more like involved in the scene. and you're a better, you're much more involved in the scene than my point is, I got $250,000 on Twitter,

I swear it was like in 2017. Yeah. I saw yours and you were at like $330,000. I was like, God damn. But you're actually way more involved and kind of do your fucking thing. But it was the, I don't, even on Instagram,

I think I'd still have like 95K. Do you guys remember that? I don't know. I don't even know. I don't remember getting 95K. Like I think I started my Instagram or something and it just like, boom, that's the amount I have. And then just since then, I don't know what fucking wave it was.

Scuff house juice was like, like our scuff house juice was so like fucking nice, dude. Like I could, I did. I would upload on Instagram every day. Just ran a picture before you could photo dump. Before you had to do photo dumps and shit like that. Reels. Reels, there's no reels, nothing like that, dude. I could post a random pick, bro, like 35,000 likes.

Just fucking cool. Dude, I mean, that's, I mean, that's, it's crazy because that juice still exists. It is still there. Or who? Like, like, consistency. My buddy Nick, who's on the yard, he had, let me see. Yard goes crazy, by the way. My brother loves.

The juice still exists for who? My brother loves the yard. Really? He fucking loves. Shout to Zach. Yeah, I mean, it's the, it's the best podcast in the game. So, Nick has. has 114,000 followers.

He... Twitter? Yeah, on Twitter. He tweets I mean I mean, okay, this is a bad example, but he's a shit poster every once in a while. And like, he'll just tweet and it'll get like

8K likes. And he has like a third of the following of like a bunch of people in Call of Duty. When we were playing Cod back when the game came out, yeah so you just tweeted d12 and he's got like 3k likes but uh and and like the dream essence well bad time to bring those guys up they're gonna go and through it but the the Minecraft people dude do you remember do you know dream is Minecraft dude you have to kind of new of them i don't really so back in the day like him and all like this is three years ago him and like his whole group

would tweet like hi and it would get like 80,000 likes who are those kids that like that nothing against them there's Minecraft's cool but dude now

they've all the thing with having a fan base like that is they'll they're they're right they're not right or die their their community is their community and they just happen to rally around you but if you fuck up it's their

They will fuck you up. Like right now, there's two guys that are, uh, that are kind of like, uh, like getting canceled in that squad. Dude, it's brutal.

They're getting shredded to pieces. They're getting shredded to pieces. Just turn to it. That's where you just fucking. What do you do? Turn your phone off. Find another life. What do you do when you get canceled?

Well, the thing is, When somebody gets canceled, you kind of figure out the real them. Like one of the dudes is getting canceled right now, and he's like, it's not going well. And he's like, from what I can tell, I don't really fucking, it just pops up on my phone. But like, he's like trying to combat it. And like, he like got rid of all of his mods and put in new mods. And his new mods are like, people found out that it was actually him. So he's modding for himself.

And like deleting a bunch. and like trying to like act like nothing's happening. And then like the other guy is is like really playing into it like twit longer. People are like you're only and like if you make a twit longer. I saw the story. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. If you if you like make a twit longer saying that you're apologizing, people are like,

you're only sad because you got caught. Exactly. Dude like they will rip you. Like dude if you get canceled, bro. Do you have anything where you're like, damn, I probably could have gotten. for that. I have like two things where I'm like, dude, fuck. Really? Yeah, it's not bad. It's not like horrible. But like if it would have, if people wouldn't

have known. I mean, bro, I've probably said some shit on stream. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That where if it was clipped and only clipped in that section. Oh, bro. Same. It's just, I mean, it's all. Obviously what I'm talking about there, that guy was like, fucked. Like, he did some fucked shit. but like not it's not always like that whenever somebody comes out and somebody's story is like bad usually there's a there's a there's a there's a bad situation that happens and somebody gets canceled and then there's like a wave of people where it's like that's not really the same as what happened over here you're just kind of like and in and those are the situations where like you really have to

figure out whether that person is actually fucked or not I don't I don't know what I'm even talking Well, the, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I heard it was he cuddled the George not found or something. What's his fucking name? No, that's the second guy. The first guy, all right, we can talk about it. His name's Wilbur. And his ex-girlfriend came out and said that he, like, had a huge biting problem.

Like, would bite unconsensually, like, all the time. Yeah, that's weird. It's a really strange thing. Off rip, you know, like, okay, this guy's potential to be really, this story could get weird. Already is. And what, they're fucking like, draw blood. Yeah, draw blood. Yeah.

And, like, she, they had a safe. She was like, okay, maybe this is just this thing. So she was like, well, we have to come up with a safe word. And then she would say the safe word and he wouldn't stop. And then he would like, he would like use the safe word like jokingly. like oh you're probably if they're say i don't know what the safe word is yeah that's weird pineapple like oh pineapple huh and then chomp down even harder that's fucking weird yeah and then the other guy was like fucking it's strange shit i just i hear the story of he cuddled with the girl

and or they were cuddling for like an hour or something and then he eventually like started touching her like thinking it's like okay this is about to go down like we're about a hook up or something. Touching her and she didn't like it. And then I really don't even know this story. I don't know if she just like got up, walked away or what. But then like a year later she comes out saying he like sexually assaulted her.

But he's saying it was not that. And then there's two sides of people saying like, why would she be cuddling with him if she like wasn't ready? Or not if she wasn't ready, but like why is she cuddling with him like, kind of it's obviously going to make him think like oh she's interested in me we're in the same bed we're touching each touching each other like I can touch her yeah but then like if he does touch her and she's like don't touch me then like that should be the end of it right and like I don't

know if that like does it pat then it go past more than that like details man those are like don't know yeah just don't know I just have no idea what because you unless you're in the room you don't know you don't know like it said say he said she said such a week because people are saying like she's lying he's lying why would she take so long to i had a fucking argument in my chat what was it about i don't even know if i should bring this up but someone someone from my chat sorry it it ended up this person let me think because at the end of the night this person was tweeted me like 10 times and tweeted hex saying like why am i in the org if i'm allowing this to happen fuck i can't remember what i can't remember what i can't remember what i can't even remember

the subject of where we're talking about but i forget how it went but someone in my chat was like if that happens to like half the time this shit happens to a girl they're putting themselves in that situation something fucking stupid dude and then This other person said, yeah, so I was drugged and sexually abused and it was just my fault, huh? And then they start going back and forth in my chat. And because I didn't, and I saw that and I was like, guys, we got to move on from this conversation. And I just started completely ignore what they were fucking arguing about in chat. And then the person was like, no, this is like, this is my truth.

I'm going to stand up for myself. We can end this conversation when I want. And the other people just, they're trolling. the trolling him like talking shit to him because I think it was um some dude who said he like got drugged and sexually abused and then I didn't like time out either of them I just like I was like let's let's move on yeah I'm done with this I'm not even gonna like you guys are idiots especially the one person who said like that is half the people it's their fault for putting themselves I was like you're that that's a fucking stupid thing to say but since I didn't like time them out my

chat. The dude like went on Twitter tweeted out like else. He was saying like L stream of course. El streamer. Of course. He even take the guy. Oh, course. He said that. Or no, because I tweeted like W stream tonight. Like blah, blah, blah.

Because it was, it actually was like such an amazing stream. I can't remember how we, it's bugging, it's fucking with me because I can't remember how we got into the conversation. But oh, we were talking about like someone named Kobe in 06, Kobe Bryant.

I was like, was he actually good in 06? Like, people were like, fuck, yeah, he averaged this much. I was like, wasn't he a stat whore? And then someone was, and then someone randomly goes, like, didn't Kobe rape someone? And then I was like, I think he, like, they were trying to charge him with it. Some girl was just trying to get money out of it. And she was making up, like, a whole bunch of bullshit, blah, blah, blah. And then that's when the person was said, like, yeah, half the people that even say they get sexually assaulted or raped,

like they put themselves in that position anyway. I'm like, dude, you're fucking idiot. Dude. And then that's how the, I couldn't fucking remember, but that's how the whole argument started. And then they tweeted me adding hex and I was just like, I'm not going to block you, but I'm just going to mute you. Because like this person was like hanging out on my stream the whole time, like having a good time. And then once that got brought up, they just some people just flip a switch. I mean, I'm sure it brings back like PTSD and but it's like, dude, arguing in Twitch chat is not going to.

You're not going to change anyone's mind. Not going to do anything. think it's crazy that like if anyone in the streaming space like if you have a if you have a friend that's a female in the streaming space 10 out of 10 times they have a stalking story they have they have a they have a they have a girl i used to play fortnight with like you know the crew yeah like they all have them oh they all have them and it's like and you think like your little private messages to them like they're telling all their friends yeah like that you're you're It not only are there floods of people coming in trying to like hit on them or like Say some like Like damn nice ass I'm trying to spank that shit Like they don't care about that it's the

There are weirdos There are people tweeting them their address their IP numbers They're saying they're gonna like hurt themselves if they don't If you don't if you don't if you don't If you don't DM me back like I'm gonna hurt myself I'm gonna send you pictures of me cutting myself like there that happens to every every female streamer

every one of them i mean especially in the gaming community that is fucking absurd i feel like to be in the gaming community you got to be like it's a little different yeah we're all a little weird we're all a little weird you're like an introverted stay at home so the those type of people who end up getting into like girl streams and

bro i'm sure some of the creepiest shit happens yeah probably had like events and shit too some girls are probably scared like going to It's not probably. Most, yes. They're all, they all have tabs on two to three people where it's just like, I can't, they're like, I'm not going to go to an event if it's in Nevada. Because there's a guy there in Nevada who tweets me 70 times a day that lives there. Like that happens to all of them.

And it's like to go to a, like, and as some of them have been. then assaults it. So it's like to say that like to say that all women like just make up, oh god bro, like someone fucking hit that guy. Like he needs to be perched. Violence is the answer. There's a lot of I mean I would have just banned like my anytime just like I see two of my viewers or like argue over anything or if I just like see like a dumb conversation that's just like two people having their own direct like argument. Meanwhile chat is all like they They see it all. I tell my chat this all the time.

I'm like, yo, like this is everyone's chat here. Like when you guys are going back and forth and shit like this, y'all could just eat just so easily just message each other directly. Like keep it up or I'm literally just going to time you out till tomorrow or some shit. I don't care what you guys are talking about. Make my day better. If chat's not popping, I'll let that shit right a little bit. Let them hash it out.

Stream's been a little slow today. I let you guys argue about fucking Trump. Trump and Biden. I mean, that has gotten like with Hutch streaming, like his chat's never not active. Hutch could have four viewers. A chat would be popping.

A chat. Like a pop and chat. Like a popping chat. I don't know how one is so interested in that. I guess he's been like that for a long fucking time. He loves that shit. Dude, he's been like that.

That's his stream is watching political. and playing with HECS. I'm playing Call of Duty with Hux. I would play old Ben of Optic with all those guys in like 20 fucking 13, 2014 and shit like that.

Same guy. Same guy. But Fizz was there. But Fizz was there. It was like me, Hector, Fizz, Hutch. You really play with them way back then?

Yeah. I'm OG, man. Don't you get it? You kind of are. You know I joined Optic before Seth, right? Damn. Yeah, because I know you joined

super early. And joined back off day. I know you joined super early and then left super early. Then joined back. And then left. And then join back. And now here we're here. Wait, what year was that when you joined?

I probably asked you. I was like 14 or 15, man. So crazy. What year was not? Like 20 fucking 11? Fuck. Do you all have any random duo stories where you're just like, y'all ended up together in a random place and you're like, what the fuck?

What you mean? Because Pam and I... Us, me and him. Because Pam and I, randomly one night in Australia, ended up, well, we roomed together, but also we had the night where, like, I almost got into a fight. Uh-huh.

And Pam and I stayed up until like 5 a.m. at a casino. And it's just such a random night. Do we're across the planet? Like... Across the planet. We're in what looks like Chicago, but everything's backwards. We're in Melbourne, Australia.

Wait, what? Are the what, like the roads and shit? Yeah, Melbourne and Australia looks like exactly like Chicago, but everything's backwards. I can like actually imagine that. It's so accurate of a description. It just looks just like Chicago, except it's not as cold and everything's backwards. And we're just like walking around trying to pick up girls and we don't get any, but we end up trying to fight. That was scuff house right there.

That was scuff house. That was scuff. The amount of, I had no Riz. And I don't know what it was because like, I swear, bro, once I got muscles and tattoos, like, it became a lot easier. And I don't know if like, and I don't know if I just got more confident. More confident. So my wrist got better. I'd stop like looking like I cared or something.

Or, I mean, I was also a skinny crackhead freak. So, I mean, that could have had something to do with it. But I swear like. You were also a little cocky back then. Was I? Yeah. Yeah. Remember you and Ava had a thing?

or you didn't have a thing I remember Ava We didn't have a thing Oh yeah The whole everyone You just like publicly Tried to like talk to her Yeah

Then I at an event She comes up to me And she was like You know I actually would have gone On a date with Nick If he would have ever asked me And I was like He never asked you

She was like No like he just tweeted at me Well that yeah Because I just had no risk It was like Nick just thought Like tweet I had no Riz I'm thinking get drunk in hotel

go back to my room because I'm just like a dumb fuck loser. That was your loser. I actually, it's funny you mentioned that I actually read and I don't know how this came up. Maybe I was like looking at YouTube or Twitter and Pokeyane popped up. And I was like chat, actually or I don't know how it came up. But I was like I actually tried like talking to Pockeman and like DMing her back in like 2017.

And I was like reading some of my DMs. Does she respond? Yeah, she like would friendly respond. But I would be like... She could have invested, man. She would ignore the part about seeing me and like answer of like, yeah, they played really good music. Because it was at like TwitchCon. Like it'd be like where are you at?

Let's get or you want to get drinks later or something. Yeah. And then she would just say like I'm at a... She would ignore the you want to get drinks later. And she would just say like I'm at this. witch con party they're playing and like she was like friendly but it was just at least she let you down easy reading the dms it was just like like i could imagine her showing those dms as someone and then the other person just being like

ew well i mean unless you said some crazy shit i don't think so no it wasn't no crazy shit it was just like that's probably what her dean like i like saved a picture her dams probably been like that for fucking her dms have been like yeah it wasn't nothing crazy it all it was just like total l right is. Nowadays she could probably go back and be like, damn, look at Nick. But like what it was happening, probably not.

Bro, the amount of times we would go out to like... I thought you were about to tell me you were like spammed her DMs and she never responded. No, she responded. She was... We had a few conversations, but I don't think she was ever interested. I don't even know if I was interested. It's just probably just like a horny bastard or something. But like back in the scuff house, it was like the amount of times...

Dude, scuff house was different. The amount of times we would like go out. We were so... We were... We were trying to get girls. And then it would be the same four girls that would come over. Oh, my God. I would walk out and I'd be like, they're in the kitchen.

In the kitchen. All four of them were there. And I'm like... There's a bottle of Titos in the middle of the eyes. I would like get done streaming or wake up at 9, 10 p.m. I hear noise downstairs. I remember there would be, I don't know if you remember there was Mike, his girl, and then his girl had the best friend.

I know exactly. And she would come over. She really liked me. It was just funny. She really liked me, but like I was not interested in her. until but yeah

not gonna sweat but she was really interested at me and like Mike's girl would come over and then I would just hear her downstairs

and I'm like God I'd be so fucking pissed I'd hear like a little tap on my door have to like open conversate

like and that that just turned into that would happen like once a fucking week at that That's probably like frat house stories is like what happened.

Dude, we, we had a party one time and there was a girl that, I don't know her name, no one could stand her. She would like go up to all of us that live there and like, I think she thought it was like playful, but she would just like, be like, damn, you're tall like to you. And it would be like, so what, you would just play video games? What, you're just a nerd all the time? And we would be like, all right, yeah, yeah, that's what we do here. Get the fuck out of her house. And she did that to everyone. Wait, really?

And then she, like, did it to me, and I was like, all right, all right, I'm going to bed. And then I'm in bed. If that's what she's doing. Girls have dog shit ris. She don't need any bridge. As a female, you need zero ris. You could actually have negative ris and it wouldn't matter. If that's her, like, you know, like, oh, let me become friendly with these guys.

We're immediately fucking annoyed. Oh, yeah. Like, we're like, don't do that. But we'll also, I mean, it's fine. It's fine. But, like, you know, you're not going to accept you. And I'm just, I'm just laying. This is still what I'm living in, I mean, I'm still saying.

We actually fucking hate you. But you can hang. I'm, uh, I'm sitting. This is when I'm still in like the closet. So I'm sleeping in like the little office. And then the door like pops open. Remember how the door used to pop open? And like, I was like expecting it to be one of you guys like, yo, Jim or Jake Shack.

Jersey mics. And. It's her. And she just comes in, closes the door and gets in the bed. I'd be like, fuck, yeah. And I'm like, what the hell? And so I'm just laying there with this girl who was like, I had been shit talking all night. And then she falls asleep.

And I was like, so I went to sleep. And then when I woke up, she was gone, never saw her again. And I was like, what the, like, what? Yeah. That was the scuff house. That's a fucking weird. She's probably married now. I couldn't tell you, I couldn't even remotely tell you what she looks like who her, what her name is.

You know, when, the house was so weird. When you were, when you were saying like, got to talk to her now, got to do this little rounds of conversation. I think it's kind of, kind of nice now, like, looking at you two. And like, I'm in the same boat, too. But, like, you know, we all kind of got someone. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, we actually.

Definitely much different. We actually can like So it's so much better It's actually someone that I like You know what I mean? Like it's just I'm not like stress Imagine being singing right now

Like I'm not I'm not like Like I get to go home You got a Canadian girl She's there with the dogs And it's just She's a she's a

She's a ballet A ballet teacher Ballet teacher Good for her Yeah Yeah what's our future is gonna be kids I got reminded of that last night

give me a baby I was like fuck am I gonna have a because I am getting up there yep we gonna have kids soon anytime I think about this dude let's all plan it together

that'd be awesome don't don't cap on camera I've been trying to I've been trying to plan with you for a while we all just and you are the one holding back I am holding back

I'm scared fucking scary Pam you're gonna have a kid soon he's like another probably had Pam's probably got some some skeletons in that closet

back in Canada he's got a fucking he's got a five year old right you're fucking right one day we're all gonna have kids I mean the feeling man

like I don't I don't know the feeling but like you know the hockey the hockey team that I sponsor are like as my six year doing that. And like I've seen those kids like like like like I've seen those kids be like 11, 12 years old playing in that hockey tournament like years ago. Remember the fucking first jersey you got?

Bro, those kids like six of them aged six or seven of them aged out this year. Like they're done. They're done playing hockey in that tournament now. Those were your kids. Those were like those are my guys. And it's it was so awesome to go back to Canada and to. I love going to that tournament at least once a year because I used to play in that tournament. And this time we went all the way to like the A championship, which is like, that's the main thing.

And midget, Midget U-18, midget wreck, midget in that tournament is like the biggest thing. Like that's what has the most, the biggest crowd. They have to use that word. Midget U-18, very common term in the hockey world. That are people, turn. Cancel me, please. Go for it. People, people have been telling me,

because, you know, this is basically a therapy session as well as my, my streams. People are like, man, you just need a kid. And I'm like, are you sure? I think you got, like a two or three steps before that. You got the house already. Got the house. You got the dog.

The house is like. I think those are the steps. You got the house. You just need the kid to put the, you know, like. Now I just. need kid. You would get a crazy dad buff. I know for a fucking fact, you would.

I would use that kid for views. Like on stream, five gifted or like, five gifted, you can see the baby. Five gifted, no breakfast. Five gifted or no breakfast.

No, I'm just kidding. Five gifted changed diaper. I think a kid would. I don't know, because people, people like, will tweet me or type of my chat and be

like man I felt the same way because now I feel like I'm at such a steady place where it's like I do the same shit every day it's pretty much gym stream and then if I have content I do content but besides that it's like I feel like I'm like missing something like some sort of like excitement I guess what if you just rent one see if you like it then that's what I did with try baby just try babysitting man just then we kept them anyway just try babysitter. See, I've hardly even held a kid. Like, I don't like kids.

You don't either. But if only, I don't like other people's kids. Like, when I see Holly and Bella walking on, I'm like, I'm just kidding. I saw her, I saw Bella the other day walking around. And we'd see each other,

we'd be like, hello. Like, hi. Yeah. But no, I'm joking, but also, like, I don't. When Bella was like two, I would like be with her and Damon and like Bella and I would be like, you know, shooting the shit and then like they would leave and then like come back like two weeks later and I'd be like, what's up Bella? And she'd be like, who are you?

And I'm like, you not remember two weeks ago? We hung out. How do you forget already? Is it because you're two? I used to. I would forget family members when I was a kid. Like I didn't give a shit just in your own little world. but I think if it was my kid, it'd be different.

I hope so. As long as they look like me a little bit, I'd be like, that's mine. That's me. That's me right there. That's a little new. I feel like that's a crazy feeling. I feel like that'd be a crazy feeling.

Like looking at just a mini you. And then get on the dad streamer grind 5am with apathy and slacked. I see they changed their title. the skump waiting room where'd they get that from probably everyone but oh i don't know maybe that's maybe that's next up i don't know y'all y'all ain't got no plans for kids soon uh it's gonna be yeah it has to be soon i mean it's within the next two years i don't know i like sniping You guys have no idea You guys have no idea

I think Pam's more of a real lifer than me Probably Well he's hanging out with the midget team He's Of course he is He's a I actually do shit

Yeah Outside of the shit I don't Wait what you do I do a lot of shit in this shit No I don't know I'm not saying anyone here doesn't do a lot of shit I was just I was literally just saying

I don't No I'm just no it's just cool that you do a lot of shit of shit outside of this shit. I don't do a lot of shit outside of the shit. I'm looking for a lot of shit to do in this shit, but I enjoy shit out of the shit out of the shit. I like outside of this shit. What shit do you like outside of this shit? Hockey shit. Hockey shit. Hockey. Hitchie. Hitch Hidget hockey shit. I bet that is exciting to watch. Ballet. Ballet shit. He likes ballet shit. Ballet shit. Bile shit. Bette shit. He's heard. Weed shit. Weed shit. We did shit.

You still love weed shit? I still fuck with the weed shit, man. Love that weed shit. When'd you get into weed shit? Smof shit. Embo's. Oh my God. I still, I'm literally not even kidding you.

This is, I wish I still love that shit. Microphone. Make a podcast. I wish I still love that shit. I'm actually Native American, but you know, it's all good. Okay. You don't identify.

What do you identify as? Have you, do you know my, dude, Brown? Austin Wausa Day, Paiswamajuan. That is a Native American name. I know you're Native American thank you we get it you're tall you don't pay taxes That's just so nice what are you saying that since crim has said that in the scullos

So you don't identify as white there's a yeah I'm like 25% white Hey, you're not like brown you can say it you can say the C word Oh, Zaginosh I'm at Cracker no Zaginash means white man in no jebuey so fucking jaganosh chaginash no trust me i've been saying that for years so have i trust i was saying that for years trust well boys is there anything else going on anything you need to get off your chest before you get out of here what a crazy fly shouts out the cod team shouts out the halo team sort of shouts to the gdcc s man shout us to the gdcc yes yeah who's I'm going home with this. You don't want it?

I'm bringing home. You don't want it. I'll take it up. I'll take it back home. You put on the set, man. We put it there. It'll fit perfect. That's fire. I can keep you here for a bit, man. Who's ESPorts award? That's ESPorts award up there. Is that yours? No, mine's on a lot. Man, you can take this man. I think you need this. You deserve it. You played better than me. I also streamed. You streamed. You played well. Yeah, you take it all right. You carried a little bit. You made good place.

I want to see if it fits because it looks perfect. That trophy's all your. but I appreciate you bringing it in for this episode of the Flycast episode I don't know what it was 106 106 but I appreciate y'all tuning in man that's gonna do it

Meathead Played that outro music