The Flycast - MaNiac Has A Problem | The Flycast Ep. 121

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, yeah. I got a bone to pick with y'all. Welcome to episode. Come on, product. Damn. Does Matt even do anything anymore? You just set up every camera while I was back here. Last flycast, we were not here.
Starting point is 00:00:33 We were over there. Welcome back to the flycast. Episode 121. 121. Had to take a break from the flycast last week, Because I got bullied so hard in the comment section and then had to go home for a week for a funeral for my grandma. So good timing, guys.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Way to pick on me at the perfect time. You guys should be ashamed of yourself. All of you. If you're listening, think about it before you talk anymore. Because we did. First off, I beat grandma. RIP. Granny Smith.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Like the apples? But no, in all seriousness, yes. I did go home. No episode from last week because I did have to go home for a funeral RIP Granny, the greatest. And then
Starting point is 00:01:21 today, we were supposed to have a special guest. Sitting right here, I would have sat over there. He goes by the name of formal. I don't know if you guys have heard of him. But this just in, he's not showing up.
Starting point is 00:01:38 What is T2P? Why is, where did T2P come from? Does anyone know the story? Do you know the story? I know who actually created it. It was this dude name, and I'm just pissed off knowing I have to say his name because he will get off on that.
Starting point is 00:01:51 But this dude name is so skeptical in Halo. Okay. He started this thing of time to pound. I don't know. Just time to pound? Time to pound him out. He just like started it in Halo. And he was like always in our Skype Discord calls or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:08 And so I think formal took that sort of from him. and then as formal sort of took that formal was also brought it to I guess started brought it to God yeah brought it to Cod
Starting point is 00:02:21 brought it with and I guess Seth started saying it too and they both just started saying it yeah so I'm pretty sure that's how it fucking started might be
Starting point is 00:02:32 it's kind of I don't know how so skeptical gets formal in the scump to start their whole like I think they've dropped merch they fucking it became like their whole slogan almost
Starting point is 00:02:46 Aaron got Aaron got blasted one time because he did a T2P drop and one of the one of the the the hoodies was just a brown hoodie and all it said was time to pound on it and it got blasted
Starting point is 00:03:00 I thought it was kind of fire but it got blasted on the internet or what? Like I'm not wearing time to pound to school you got to say T2P yeah yeah yeah you can't really I don't know if it was I don't know if it was just the design or I don't know if it was pre-made.
Starting point is 00:03:14 If anybody has an actual... Was it just the words? The brown... If anyone has the brown time to pound merch, I want a hoodie. I want one. I'll pay whatever for it. With it under $100. I'll pay whatever for it under $100.
Starting point is 00:03:31 That's just reminding me. How you found that Cloud jersey. If you don't know Cloud was my old Halo teammate. I think so. Someone else found another one. I think he's like selling his shit. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Kind of. Wait. Cloud. Cloud is selling his stuff. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I think he might be selling his shit. I got to check in on Cloud, man. Did you ever text him?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Uh-uh. You said you were going to text him. Did I? What was that? That. Time to Pound. I want that. If anybody has this.
Starting point is 00:04:03 That's actually, if anybody has this hoodie. See, did they drop this when like scump stunk still couldn't smoke cigarettes? Yeah. Well, it was a... What the fuck? That the top right shirt This is confident. Formal's outline is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:04:26 That is funny. Wait, let me see the green one. I actually kind of like that. The green one's not bad. I kind of like the... Green one's not bad. I like the color combination. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Aaron's gonna get pissed. I brought this back up. But he was like, dude, I just did what I was supposed to do. Yeah, Formal was supposed to join us today. So, unfortunately, we don't have a guest, and you're stuck with us today. I do want to say, we had, maybe I shouldn't talk about it. But we had Shotsie on the podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And I, didn't I text you about it? But we had Shotsie on the podcast. And I was looking at the comments. I didn't really, like, I already thought in my head, I was like, that podcast, I feel I was just talking too much and I said it on the optic pot as well and then I looked at the comments and for the first time
Starting point is 00:05:18 sometimes I'll check out the comments but for the first time in a while did you check them after like the 24 hour mark because you you started checking on it you checked on it like two hours after it came out yeah and there was
Starting point is 00:05:32 it's still bad and I don't know if it's still bad I don't want to go I don't want to go back is this it Yeah, see, I don't see I don't have my I was like I was like there's only one bad There's only one bad one bad one no when I check the comments I think two hours after it dropped I was getting verbal
Starting point is 00:05:53 See I don't know if I want to see this Ecos one of those favorite you don't need a pillow to talk or something Everyone wait how many views did it get though Because it made me feel Almost 50K that's actually pretty good That made me feel Also how did it make me feel is the biggest that episode
Starting point is 00:06:15 that podcast is the biggest I've ever been in my life fattest? Yeah Wait let me I Damn dog Why did you say it like that
Starting point is 00:06:23 I just say it like that? No it's looking The likes I mean hell of likes Almost a The amount Yeah Damn I thought you
Starting point is 00:06:33 No you had to have been bigger than that like Guess how big I am I'm weighed myself Okay here's what happened So you know how like You know how like when When you're too scared to look at something because like like you're too scared to look at your bank account when you've been
Starting point is 00:06:46 too scared to look at the YouTube comments you scared to look at the YouTube comments that's a good one too too too scared to look at the views of the video to file your taxes because you're so far behind they might come get you right exactly okay that's how I felt about the scale because I've been smoking a lot of like a lot of weed and when I smoke weed it does this weird like glitch where Taco Bell shows up at 3 am. like a lot of like a lot of Taco Bell a lot of Taco Bell a lot of Taco Bell I I don't know how it gets there. And so that had been a daily,
Starting point is 00:07:15 that had been a daily occurrence for like two weeks. And I was like, A daily occurrence? A daily occurrence. And I was like, and this is when, this is when I had started running too. But I was like,
Starting point is 00:07:28 maybe if I just, I'll just start running and then I can still eat. I'm fueling myself. I got a ride. I have a mile run tomorrow. I need to fuel myself with at least 2,500 calories. I wait, so I weighed myself.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I finally got the courage to weigh myself right before we did that podcast. Right before I walked over here. Guess. I'm gonna say you were 221. I'm 221 now. I was 229 and a half. Oh my God. I thought you were about to say 2.30.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Almost 230. Damn. And I had never, and I, dude, I literally almost puked. I almost p-u-you. I threw away all my weed. I stepped off the scale, threw it all away. and I haven't I haven't ordered I haven't ordered at 2 a.m. since and I've been if I hadn't gotten sick in North Carolina I probably would be like I probably be like 2.15 right now no weed cents no weed only running but then I got sick yeah I'm fucking I'm fucking I'm out of commish right now with my fucking shin splints I got up to I think I got to 27 miles and a week are you wearing JP's shoes I don't know I'm switching on my swag a little bit some Birkenstock Switch it back.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I mean, they look good. James got them on. They're cool, right? James hasn't. But this is actually my first time ever wearing them. I kind of like them. And I think I got these pants at Target.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Pants are fire. But anyways, my inner shin, every time it got to the point where I was, I thought, like, this fucking David Gagin's bullshit to where you just, you're injured, but it's like nah fuck that i'm stronger than that so i just like kept running on it and then it just
Starting point is 00:09:15 got worse and worse and worse and then i went home and i kept trying to like stay with my schedule stay with my programming or whatever and then one day i was just like finishing my four miles and i was like holy fuck i was like this is not like i have to like stop right now or like one day i'm just going to be running and something's gonna i don't really know how it works with shin splints but i don't know if something Something could just fucking pop one day or if it just gets like more and more inflamed or bruised. But I was, I was like, one of these days, I'm going to keep running on this pain and it's just going to, shit's going to hit the fan and I'm not, I'm going to wake up the next day and like not be able to walk. It's like my inner shin.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I've probably taken, I've taken a few days off. I even tried. I was like, all right. Well, first it was hurting. And I was like, all right, let me slow down on my miles. So I started just running slow. I was starting to do like 10 minute miles. Just like really taking my time, focusing on my form.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Then from that, what the fuck am I saying? Biking. Oh, from that, from there, I was like, this shit still hurts. Let me just jog like half a mile, run a mile and walk a little bit. And it was still hurting. And it was just like, I don't know how to fucking heal it. But at this point, I'm like, okay, I just have to like not do anything. thing.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah. So like I even tried biking and it was still like putting pressure on this. It was the weirdest pain. I've never, I've experienced shin splints sort of, but then they like kind of go away in a day or two. But this is the first time I've ever had something affect me for this is probably week three of my shin splints,
Starting point is 00:10:59 but probably this is my first week not running on it. And I still feel like when I go through this, I still feel like a tender fucking part. And I'm not going to lie. it's kind of like I had such a routine I was like such in the fucking zone and now I feel like this just like this threw me off and then I visited home eight kind of shitty came back eight extra fucking shitty was like four days of just shit gain like five pounds back and now I'm just still going to the gym but I don't know this is I was so proud of where I got to if you guys
Starting point is 00:11:38 don't follow on Strava you can follow in Strava we have Optic Run Club Optic Run Club almost at we might be at like 1500 members almost but you can see all of my progress hitch fucking I'm trying to get Shotsie to post because he doesn't he thinks people can like see his location shit I'm like bro if you just hide it like we can't see it's all this dude we're four away so by the time you're seeing this we probably will be at 1500 members Strava or optic run club I know we got Kenny, Shotsie, let me, let me see.
Starting point is 00:12:10 James. Overview. Oh, wait. Yeah. Remember. Okay, so the admins are, uh, myself,
Starting point is 00:12:18 Shotsie, Pomage, Blake, George, you, Paige and, uh, James.
Starting point is 00:12:27 You know what was surprising? How many fucking runners there are? Matt Craig. Like, there's like, big time runners. Oh.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I just, like, joined. Dude. And they're just 80 miles this week. It's actually insane how many people? Because I thought, I never hear of anyone running. Right now we have a new champ. It's not Luke right now. It's Carter Campbell.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I mean, look at how these guys look. Like, this motherfucker runs. Like, that's what he does every day. That's a fucking runner. He runs. Shout out Carter Campbell from Windsor. Colorado? It surprised me.
Starting point is 00:13:07 so much how many people actually like run and bike and like I thought we were all just pieces of shit no like I thought I was the one standout like I'm the fucking runner in the in all of e-sports I mean I didn't I didn't I didn't necessarily
Starting point is 00:13:22 I didn't technically think of it like that but I was like no one fucking runs any like this shit so out of like running is just in a different world Carter today 1,500 people like logging shit every single day my man Carter ran 14 miles today
Starting point is 00:13:39 this morning at a 6.56 pace hour and 30 hour and 30 minutes 14 miles. Have you ever tried to run your fastest like say in the last five years have you tried to run like a fast mile?
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah when I was trying to break my mile time like two years ago. What time did you get? I got to like I think I got down to like I think it was like 702 or something like that. And just imagine that
Starting point is 00:14:09 and how hard you were running. Dude, I was, I was, I almost threw up. I almost threw up after. Giving it your all. And motherfuckers are just,
Starting point is 00:14:19 that's just their pace. I want to, I have, I must. There's two things I got to experience in life. Being shredded, I don't know which one's going to be harder.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Being shredded or, shredded or running like a... Shredded will be easy. Just take fucking... Running like seven miles at like a 630 pace. Seven miles at 630 pace.
Starting point is 00:14:43 That'll... Something like that. That's easier. Than getting shredded? Yes. Seven miles at a 630 pace is crazy. Because I felt like... But dude,
Starting point is 00:14:52 your diet, your diet is everything for that. You can't fuck up. And also you... It's really hard if you're not... Being heavier, being like 220 and running is not ideal. Like when you're sitting there at 2.30 and you start running again, that shit. They were also roasting you in the comments for saying that Nick Bear was natural.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Well, what's funny about that is, first off, you don't fucking know. I'm tired of motherfuckers just second off. And I only say this. First off, I don't blame. First off, I don't blame you guys for saying I didn't let Shotsie talk enough. I knew, I knew, shut up. As it was happening.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I knew as it was happening. I knew when the podcast was fucking over. I was like, God, I think I went on a Yap session. Which, like, when we do have a guess, you do have to respect, like, let's sort of make it about them. Yeah, yeah. I get it. The Nick Bear shit, I thought he was natural.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Recently, I've been seeing, you just look at him and you're like, ah, there's just. all those veins he's fucking jacked he's shredded he's still so much cardio he ran a marathon in under three
Starting point is 00:16:12 what is it under three hours right yeah I think so like something like a 630 pace a 630 pace marathon so like people are like you're if I didn't really see any of those comments but if they are saying like you're a dumbass for thinking Nick Bears
Starting point is 00:16:26 is natural I'm like I can kind of see why you like I because even I am kind of turning on to the side of like I don't is he keeping something from us even though he doesn't fucking oh is an explanation of what he's doing no he doesn't he doesn't but I was sort of on y'all side to where I was like is he not natural anymore bring up can you I think we might have did this last podcast but just bring up a picture of Nick Bear but well everyone just says he's on TRT now they're not saying he's on steroids but they're like TRTTTT dog TRT does fucking... Yeah, we literally, we did do this last time. But you see that
Starting point is 00:17:07 and you're like, no, there's no way. But someone on his Instagram, because he posts all the time, it'll just be him like running or something,
Starting point is 00:17:14 just looking jacked while running. And someone even posted on like Instagram. Jacked. Like he, say he posted, he was like, electrolytes and water.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Fucking lightning emoji. Say the status. Yeah. People will be like, you mean TRT and gear? Or like, it's like comments like that. And then he responded, this was after the podcast, this was literally like
Starting point is 00:17:43 a few days ago. And he responded and says, I don't do TRT. But, but in that people and then people still respond to that and they're like, yeah, right, shut the fuck up. Like, they just don't believe. So when I, when someone says I'm an idiot for thinking he's natural,
Starting point is 00:17:59 the guy, I watched so many of his vlogs and he just, he doesn't seem like he would lie about it. If he did do it, I think he'd say. Oh, God. But I really don't get how he's so fucking jacked. But he said himself. Me, if I was to look at him, I would say, I don't know, but he even
Starting point is 00:18:14 said himself that he is fucking natural. But that shit is so hard, dude. Also, like, if he's not natural, who the fuck cares? But he's also been doing this since college. He's like 34 now. No, this is like what he, this, I mean, just
Starting point is 00:18:30 if you, I don't know, what is what is TRT? it a pill? Is it fucking... I do TRT. What is it? Testosterone. Oh. But there's like people...
Starting point is 00:18:39 Here we go. Now I'm gonna get... And I've said this so many times and I've said it on my stream. TRT isn't just gonna make you jacked. Also, people say, yeah, TRT, if you don't know, it's a testosterone replacement therapy. Oh, it's that. Like literally, you just inject testosterone into your ass. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But I'm one TRT. And there's a time where I was on TRT and I was fucking skinny and just like pathetic looking. But it's because you don't have a lot of tea in the first place. Yeah. So like my my
Starting point is 00:19:17 a normal range for testosterone say at my age would be like 500 being on the lower average I'd say and 800 being flame sword because Flame Sword just has high testosterone, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Porny bastard. But some people, the thing with TRT is I use it. My testosterone's at like $6.50. Like I just got to check like a few weeks ago, which is like, I'm kind of looking at like, like, can we get to the thousands? Like let me cheat a little bit. Wait, let me get. What is like a healthy? Like 650.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Oh, so yours is normal. I'm at normal human would be anywhere from like, four. probably 500 to 700. So I'm just at like the average. Like they brought me to average. Yeah. Basically because my shit was like three something. But then there's people who will say they're on TRT.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Their testosterone's already fine. They'll be dosing a lot fucking more than me. And their testosterone would be like 1,500. But they get to just say they're on TRT. So there's like, there's like levels to this TRT shit. Like some people, you can abuse it but you get to just say like
Starting point is 00:20:34 you're only on TRT you're not taking steroids and shit like you're just on TRT but you're taking a large fucking amount and it's way 1500 tests is way different than like a 650 so like I've never taken steroids strictly of the fact that I don't want to make my dick
Starting point is 00:20:51 little yeah I be getting well so does TRT about my balls sometimes does is it do the opposite you get more testosterone you get more like more balls more like another ball uh you sometimes i wonder i there is some uh if you're on it for a long time apparently it can do i don't know if it'd be damage but like you could your fertility or whatever to be able to have kids could lessen um i've talked to them about it
Starting point is 00:21:27 they said it's not an immediate fuck they said it's not um there's not um there's like sirens outside. Siren outside. They said it's not an immediate worry, but I should look into it. And we should like get something sorted out if I do plan on having kids in the future. So that's something I'm going to have to fucking look into. Yeah, the whole, uh, the whole TRT thing is a, it's, if you're a Instagram influencer, motherfucker, everyone, everyone just says you're on TRT.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Everyone negates anything. Yeah, no. All hard work you've ever done. You only look like that because you're on TRT. Because you do this or that or whatever. But it's like people like Nick Barrett's like, these fucks have been doing this for... Also, on point. Also, I could give...
Starting point is 00:22:18 Working out hard. You could give anyone... You can give anyone in the comments, steroids and TRT shots. And then... I think they'd be surprised. And then you're not going to immediately look like that. I would say, I would say it has... helps me. Sometimes I even think of getting off because it's like I don't. It's not like I think if
Starting point is 00:22:39 you take steroids, you would definitely feel something. T.R.T, it's I don't really feel anything. If anything, I do think it probably helps with recovery for me to be able to do as much as I can. But if your workouts aren't intense. If your diet's not on point, it's, it makes it just, not that it's useless but the most important thing is your intensity and your diet which brings this back to your diet
Starting point is 00:23:10 and how you got it's better was it did you go on like a spree of months of just giving up like you just didn't give a fuck dude it was it was
Starting point is 00:23:25 it's funny because like you wake up like I woke up so guilty every day. I'm like, what the fuck was that? And you're high at night. So when you do do it, do you, it's like beating off. Like when you're in the moment.
Starting point is 00:23:42 No, it's not like beating off. It's like, when you're in the moment, it's like, this is cool, but then the second you finish, it's like, this is fucking disgusting. I'm pathetic as fuck. This is embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:23:52 It's like, it's like when you're crashing on Addy and you end up beating off for like an hour and a half. It's like that. When you wake up after that. Those were the good old days. And you're like, what the fuck? I would do like six hour sessions. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:24:06 It's like webcam girls and shit. So it's like that level of like guilt. Yeah. Where I'd wake up and I am in bed. Mace is whining, ready to go out and I peel my eyes open because I was, I took an edible and smoked. And so I'm peeling my eyes open. And the first thing I see is the fucking taco bell bag in my bed. Just on the bed.
Starting point is 00:24:36 And I'm just. And I'm like, that's 2020, Neack. And I'm like, dude, I've got to stop. Then I take Mace out and then we go to content. And then I eat kind of healthy during the day. I'm like, oh, like I had a salad or I take a massive fucking shit. Your stomach hurts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Oh, it's grumbling. And then I go for a run. And the run is like, okay, I'm improving my runs. So I'm like, oh, like if proven my runs, then, then like we had a pretty rough month mentally, not even like numbers wise, but just mentally for TST where it's like we're getting on every day and I'm like, not, I'm like, you know, down. And so I'm like not feeling it. And, and I'm, you know, the weird, the bad thoughts are creeping in. I'm like, how long, how much longer can we even do this? And, and then.
Starting point is 00:25:26 This is the end of our road. Yeah, I'm like, this might be the end. And then and then I'm like, all right, boys, you know, we do our sign off. And then I'm like, all right, boys, I'll see you guys tomorrow. And then I walk downstairs. I'm edible. Put, grab a, grab a joint. Distract brain.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Grab a joint, put it in my pocket, take Mace for a walk. And then smoke while I'm walking Mace. And order Taco Bell while I'm on the walk. Because I'm just like, oh, you know, it's fun. Like, I deserve this in my brain. I've worked hard today. And there's just a whole crunch rap in it. The new fucking
Starting point is 00:26:05 canteena I don't know. I haven't. You're not up on TV. You're not up on TV game right now, dude. And then I would get home and by the time I'm getting, by the time I get home, the full edible has kicked in.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And I'm already high from the joint. And I, and like, you know, when you're high and you're petting your dog it's so nice you're just like yeah I love you so much and then the Taco Bell's there and then I'm like oh you know and then it's gone isn't that crazy how your brain you went from like this the end of our road man I'm depressed like I'm like I'm kind of depressed and you go get high and order Taco Boe and you're like
Starting point is 00:26:46 fuck yeah yeah we got Taco Bell you lock in you put on like a good video to watch what's your what's your go to for high eating dude watching I was watching Blune's Tower Defense videos. Like I was, I'll watch anything. The fuck. Dude, whatever's, hey. Whatever's on my feed. Now, right now, it's all Eldon Ring.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I'm not getting high anymore, but it's all Eldering ring. But back then it was like either Minecraft videos or or actually a lot of college football stuff. Yeah, so I was doing that. And then, dude, the, the guilt I would feel. Alexis would text me in the, because, because right now she, well, she's here right now,
Starting point is 00:27:31 but the last couple months, she's been in Chicago because of family stuff. And so she would text me like, how was your night, like after stream? I'm sorry, I went to bed. And I'm lying. I'm like, it was great. You know, I feel, I feel great.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It was a great night. Cleaning up Taco Bell bags. Just looking at myself in the mirror, like, gross. What made you, what was it that you were like, all right, I'm not doing this, no more? So remember, okay, I don't know if I said, I don't think I said this on the podcast because I think we talked about it earlier. But when we started running or when I started running because I saw you and James like crushing it.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I was like, I was like, it's really hard to run right now because usually what happens is I hit rock bottom. And then I'm like, I have to change my life. And then I become a vegan for a year. Or then I do something. Holy shit. I forgot you did that. You know what I mean? Like I have to hit something.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And then I have to mentally tell. myself, okay, we have to change everything and when my mind is set to changing everything, it's good. I'm good. If I set out to walk downtown, I'm good. As long as my mind gets there. But my mind hadn't gotten there and I was still trying
Starting point is 00:28:42 to run. So it was so hard to run. Because I'm like, why am I even doing it? My mind wasn't made up and I was like, this one's hard because I haven't hit rock bottom yet. Right before that Shotsie podcast? You hit rock bottom once you saw that? Yeah. And then all of a sudden weed gone. Taco Bell gone.
Starting point is 00:28:57 and then I've been running ever since I'm really pissed that I got sick when I went home You should get like a program kind of thing To where you just know what you're running Instead of like Yeah Long run Sunday
Starting point is 00:29:11 Three easy Well for you could be like Three mile long run Sunday And you just go slow Like you're not doing it Yeah Like you need it You're gonna need at least like
Starting point is 00:29:23 Six to eight weeks Before you even like Start to enjoy trying to go faster But my shit will be I had kind of already gotten there. Like my last, my last good run was in North Carolina. And I got new shoe because I was, dude, my foot was falling asleep while I was running. And I was like, I hated it.
Starting point is 00:29:43 But I got new shoes. And then my last good run, I think it was like a, I don't remember what it was, like an 8.30 pace or something like that for two, for two and a half miles or something like that. And I was like, dude, that's like, that's not bad. that's usually like the start of because i had i went i don't even know how many weeks it was like four or five weeks or something and i was like every run is kind of fucking sucked like i have yet to get the runners high i've and then one day i got it and then like every not every run but a lot of runs after that i was like starting to get it again yeah like improving my time but i think i was just going to too too fast and then i got this fucking injury and now this is like
Starting point is 00:30:29 like it's honestly like slightly depressing because of like how much war like I was running six days a week and working out six days a week and then like this shit happened and it's the marathons think like 10 weeks away I'm gonna have to like take this week off and I just hope I get like right back to it but once I found like a rhythm during a marathon that's insane once I found a rhythm it was so nice to get into I mean it did kind of suck because sometimes I'd be like so sore like fuck i got to wake up and run four miles like it's so and just around my neighborhood so boring but it every after every single time i do it i would just feel like proud of myself or just like even if i'm a fucking loser for the rest of the day like at least i got
Starting point is 00:31:15 like one w like this is something not a lot of people would want to do or like be willing to just like wake up and get this shit done so at least i got one fucking w i'm like very interested in uh i know i don't know if you i don't know if you ever watched it but i know he's like borderline canceled right now but cody cody co's fitness channel did you ever watch it it was called like cody trains dude i watched that shit every day like every day and all he did all he did was upload like it was like a it was like a vlog but like not not like nice that level vlog just like waking up here's my diet here's my run here's what i'm going training and he's started training for an iron man and so a lot of people watched from day one of his first start
Starting point is 00:32:10 training until he finished the iron man and i i i joined like halfway through and dude was so sick watching because like you're watching a youtube video but like also you're not like inspired but like at least it's something in the same realm as like fit not because you're not it's not a fitness YouTube channel, but like you see what it takes to like do that. And so I've, I've thought about maybe doing that one day, like really like debating it. But I probably would need help with that. I probably would need like a little an editor for that. Yeah, it looked fun.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I kind of thought about doing something like that. And like last year I did sort of do something like that, except it was just kind of like a documentary. Yeah. We did like the 60 day thing, but then even during those 60 days, we did a couple of vlogs. And I just felt like they didn't do well. And I just felt like I felt like I've watched so much working out videos and
Starting point is 00:33:17 YouTubers that I do feel comfortable of like knowing what I'm talking about. But I just, I felt like a fraud saying it when I just like looked average as fuck. like there's like a certain aesthetic yeah that to where if I'm gonna preach about health and and exercise and shit
Starting point is 00:33:37 it's like I have to like I felt like I had to like look a certain way and to be honest I think it is kind of true like no one wants to watch a fucking average looking gamer Joe just telling you what to do about it so I just felt like a fraud
Starting point is 00:33:51 so I kind of just stopped and I get that I think I think people what people would be interested in seeing you like maniac start that shit because people that would be fun because i think when you go in there you're like i have to be already a fitness influencer and people don't care about that people want to see you get to that level yeah i wish i would have what i did do is whenever i started running eight weeks ago my first run ever i recorded it's all like vertical though but i because i
Starting point is 00:34:21 was thinking like i don't want to dedicate myself to like making some insane documentary video or something like logging shit every week. So it's like I'm just going to do a vertical 10 to 5 to 10 second tap in every week and just like let people know what I'm doing. So I have done that and I've done it every single week. And we'll see when the marathon comes if I'm going to record during the marathon and then maybe some kind of like TikTok video or something after that just to see from like, like, Because in the first shot, I was fucking dying.
Starting point is 00:34:58 My face was red. I was like, two miles into my first long run. Got to run three. And I was walking. I was like, and then it ended on. I was at like an 11 minute, 45 second pace. And so it is cool to see that. And then like, see like eight weeks later.
Starting point is 00:35:15 It's like, oh, I just ran five miles at an 850 pace. If we did a, if we did a YouTube channel. I mean, this is a lot of dedication. But if we did a YouTube channel called Optic Run Club, would you vlog like once a week on it? I mean, what would we do? Run. Like, just make like a vlog.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah, just vlog, vlog. I just don't know if people would give a fuck. I think if we made like a React channel and had someone dedicated to finding what the, I think there's a few things we could do. besides podcasting that, like, would work. Like, I think, like, a React channel. I mean, yeah, reaction.
Starting point is 00:36:01 If we had someone that, like, went out and found the hottest things to react to and then, like, clipped it all up or something, I think that would be good. Yeah, an Optics React Channel. That's a crazy idea. I didn't write that on a board three years ago multiple times. And then Roger's like, well, I think it's just kind of take a little, I think we did a little... Shut up, Roger. Disneyland looking ass
Starting point is 00:36:25 I think What he was? I don't know Roger was in Disneyland So I keep I keep making Disneyland jokes Is that where he is? I don't
Starting point is 00:36:33 Where is he right now? With the reeds at Disneyland Oh my God He's spending time With this golf shit I'm tired of this This golf and What's the paddle ball
Starting point is 00:36:51 Pickle ball? Pickle ball Pickle ball Like come on man Where's the real sports Are we doing like an irl basketball game it's next week isn't it
Starting point is 00:37:05 are you doing that we're doing like an irl basketball stream aren't we full court game with optic members next thursday what i think so yeah really yeah we're doing that we're not allowed to stream and i'm guessing right
Starting point is 00:37:24 not allowed to stream yeah No, I think it is streamed. Oh, it's like an optic eye or... Oh. That'll be powerful. I gotta learn how to shoot again. Dude, I feel like an idiot. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:37 When I pick up a basketball now, it's like... But then I remember it's like... I can dribble and I can pass. That'll never go away. But shooting, dude, shooting, it's like... It's like, dude. Dude, I've played...
Starting point is 00:37:50 We've played basketball by like seven times in the last 15 years. Yeah. 15 years. Like, do you remember at, uh, at Major 1 last year when it was like the double space, or major three? Then there was a basketball, a smooth competition basketball court. Dude, I was trying to shoot on that and I was like, dude, did they make the rim higher?
Starting point is 00:38:11 Is the basketball heavier? Bro, I was on purposely shooting from far as fuck. Yeah. Well, I can't really get judged if I miss this one. That's true. That's true. And just shoot fucking bombs. I used to be nasty at one point.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Bro, I thought I was, it's crazy how. As a kid, I thought I was nasty. I was like, I'm fucking good. Or like, I thought my dribbling was really good. I was, I've never been a good shooter. It just, just doesn't go in. Like, I've always, I have never known what the fuck's going on with my shooting and basketball because I just never got better at shooting.
Starting point is 00:38:44 But I was always really good. I was always like a smart player, good passer, good dribbler. Like, I wouldn't fuck it up for the team. I always started until 10th grade. Then I rode the bench. But I always felt like a good basketball player. And then it's almost like that person who thinks they're a good halo or call a duty player. And then you travel to a tournament and you're like, God, I'm horrible.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Horrible. Like I remember we went to like Ocean City for some tournaments and just got fucking. So you played like ball. You played like club ball. Well, this is like seventh, eighth grade. But like that was like my peak. I was playing, I was playing on carpet. and we were praying at halftime.
Starting point is 00:39:28 That's where my organized, my organized basketball was in a church league. Yeah, no, I was playing in some leagues, but like it got to the point where I was like, oh my God, like this show, it's like when you're playing Halo online and like you think you're good, then you go,
Starting point is 00:39:43 then I went to my first Halo like local tournament and just got destroyed by Demon D. Yeah. And like the other fuck. But I really, and like now doing this shit next week, it's like I actually want to like touch a ball
Starting point is 00:39:58 and try to because I'm like I might just fucking embarrass myself it feels it feels so foreign touching any kind of doing anything I was still I was still in a football the other day and it felt good throwing a football did you
Starting point is 00:40:14 but you did you ever play football or throw a football? I played football when I was like young like like flag football like 8 to 11 or something did you play flag football? No Tackle football? Yeah. Like real football.
Starting point is 00:40:27 I played two years. Yeah, I played two years of football. I thought I was nasty at football too. Dude, I was good. I mean, it's weird. I don't know if, I don't know if I look back on things. I think I was just, I think it was just an athletic kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:42 And a lot of kids aren't athletic. Yeah. But, like, I played, like, Pop Warner. I played Pop Warner one year and then I played for my middle school one year. And, dude, it's so long. ago obviously. What positions? Uh, linebacker.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Same. Linebacker, linebacker and fullback. Same. Really? Yeah. And then my, my, uh, that was in Pop Warner and then in, um, and then line, in, in, uh, middle school, I played linebacker and quarterback. Quarterback?
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yeah. Damn. It was really, I didn't, I didn't think I was, I mean, he, I, there, no one, I, else could throw. Really? Yeah, I was the only one to, well, besides the starting quarterback, because I played like, there was something called fifth quarter, you go out there and you play eight, eight, eight plays or four plays on both sides of the ball, basically, and then, and then the starters play.
Starting point is 00:41:41 So, like, that's all it was, that's all I was really doing, but I was practicing and stuff, but I, I feel like I finally got to a point, I mean, we're talking about when I'm like, what, fucking eighth grade, or seventh grade, but still, I got to a point where I was like, I can finally hit. And then I, and then, uh, and then I had to choose between soccer and football that year. Eighth grade, eighth grade, it was the same, the same season. So I either had to choose soccer or I had to choose football. So I chose soccer.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And then I didn't play anymore. And I low key, I kind of regret it. Do you think you could have went to like college for it? No. For soccer? Oh, for soccer. Yeah. For soccer, if I had any sort of motivation.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Any, any motivation at all. kid there's i now get being like when i was a kid i didn't know honestly halo kind of taught me a little bit there there came a point to it's like i know how to get better like i need to get on every day i need to actually focus when i'm fucking doing it i need to maybe play some fucking octagon warm up get some good matches and really try get put in effort and like when you get older you realize that but as a kid it was just like i would kind of shoot around in my driveway And we'd go to basketball practice and like that's his. That's, but then I would see like the coach's son.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And that motherfucker's probably doing drills at home. Training at home. Has a hired trainer. I'm just like, this motherfucker is so much better than me. But it's like he had, like I didn't know how to get better. I was just like my parents didn't really give a fuck. Like they take me to my games or whatever for my practice. But it was like there was no.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I just wonder how if I could have got. anywhere, which probably not. If I could have got anywhere if I knew from the, say from fifth grade. Are you going to, if you have a son? He'll be doing the first thing. It's a good question. I didn't even if I, first thing my son is doing is. is over any sport
Starting point is 00:43:53 he's going to learn how to fight really yeah if if anything he might suck but he'll knock you out so don't I just want I can't I don't know if I'm going to be able
Starting point is 00:44:07 school and kids are so harsh and I look back and I'm like thank God it like there is times I've honestly maybe like once or twice because I never got bullied but there was like one or two times where like an older kid
Starting point is 00:44:24 that would have fucked me up like talk some shit and I was like yeah this guy would fuck me up I can't really and you're just like sort of defenseless and that's how like kids are in school and kids are so mean
Starting point is 00:44:38 mean so they're so cruel especially the fucking rich kids they're so they're so fucking I'm talking dude scum there's people in sixth grade Like, there's people that was talk to shit to me in sixth grade that I still get pissed when I see on fucking Facebook.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Yeah. Well, like, fuck, like. I hope you're doing bad. Yeah, I hope you're doing bad. When, like, three years ago when I was popping off, I was like, I hope you see, look at me now, bitch. Now don't, now don't look at me. But three years ago, look at me now, bitch.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Don't actually. Don't look at me right now. Keep looking wherever. But there was like, there was just, just thinking of how it affected me when I felt like not that I was getting bullied
Starting point is 00:45:23 but I was just super uncomfortable and I was like this guy would beat my ass in front of everyone if I stepped up and like sort of defended myself and that was it's just such a shit feeling and I can't stand especially like if I have a daughter
Starting point is 00:45:38 or something I mean it might be worse for boys though in school but like I can't I don't know if I'd be able to do send my kids kids to a public school and just be like god like i hope they just like have friends and are having like an easy time and it's so like if if i found out my kid was like getting bullied or something like
Starting point is 00:45:59 fuck i can't imagine having a how shitty of a feeling that would be as a parent to like know your kids are getting bullied or i mean there's part of it i mean obviously if it's severe bullying no but there's part of public school that just teaches you life i think i think I think so. In my opinion. Yeah, I think so. Because you can always, like, no offense. It's probably some people that went to Monsorna.
Starting point is 00:46:25 What's it called? What's it called that? Private. Monastery. There's probably some homeschool kids watching. And, like, I'm sure you guys are dope. But, like, a little weird. You could tell when someone's been homeschooled.
Starting point is 00:46:42 What, are you going to go home and get bullied by mom? by cousin? But at the same time I can also see I bet school I mean I know people personally that I think school and just their early childhood
Starting point is 00:46:59 of just getting picked on and bullied a little bit like I still think it it affected them completely and they're in their 30s now and they live just some sort of tucked away hidden life
Starting point is 00:47:14 and they kind of just like got scared as a kid and remained scared throughout their life. I think I did have a good, a good public school, uh, experience because my public school was so big. So like I can imagine that public schools, public high school,
Starting point is 00:47:33 public high schools that are like a class of, I don't know, 75 to 100. I'm sure those are rough because you've got the football team. And then you've got like three dweeps. at my school we had a pack of deweeps so it's not like you couldn't
Starting point is 00:47:49 you couldn't bully the dweaves because they they they they do their own thing like you couldn't the baseball team you could the the band guys couldn't bully the baseball team because there's a we got enough for two baseball teams like you know what like it's everyone had their own thing
Starting point is 00:48:05 we had horse we had we had a horse team a horse a jockey team like we had we had so many people that were they they you you kind of had your own little communities everywhere but I can imagine if there's only if the chess club is two people at your high school then it might be a little tougher because if you're bullied you've got no one to turn to so
Starting point is 00:48:29 that I can imagine that well that would be hard three things I've always said to get back to your question that you didn't that you almost got out almost asked yeah that you almost asked my kid is gonna learn out a fight which I still need to learn now Because I still be thinking sometimes I'm like, man, like, I just know I'm going to run into a fucking UFC fighter that the one guy piss off. The one time I choose to finally stand my ground, I'm just going to get fucking that way. Or it's, I'm probably just never going to get in a fight and don't have to worry about it. But even now, I still think about, like, taking boxing or something. My kids are going to.
Starting point is 00:49:06 You won't get into a fight. Knocked out. Don't make me. Don't make me. you pull up in the crocs I pull up in the crocs you win the stocks so my kids are going to learn out of fight
Starting point is 00:49:21 this is I've always thought of this learn out of fight play piano and play a sport play piano's a really good one regardless if they want to or not play play piano's a really good one God it'd be so nice to be
Starting point is 00:49:33 once you hit like middle school and you can as long as you're not like stinky and fucking gross if you can play the piano like girls are like oh my God It's just going to set you up.
Starting point is 00:49:44 So I'm going to ask you the same question. What? Football. What's the mandatories as a hitch child? Oh, are they going to be going to have to do? Organize sports for sure. Organize something. Like if I have a daughter, if she doesn't, if she's not interested in sports.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Ah. If she's not interested in sports, then like, like dance or or some sort of like club, like a chess. club or some some sort of like organized thing where like you know people chess club huh or like cheerleading dance or cheerleading or gymnastics gymnastics actually gymnastics is probably my top like what i would want to put put them in if i had a daughter but it's just like i mean or soccer like it depends on how sporty she is i don't know but like i just think that organized stuff early is so important. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Like, mad important. Because, like, you meet, that's how you meet friends. Like, I met friends through sports and church. Those are my two outlets. I feel like just having a team to accomplish life with is so, like, I'm so jealous of your TST stuff. Because it's like. Really? Oh.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Oh. Yeah, you should be. Because you're not. only are you working with two of your best friends from home, but it's like, whether it succeeds or fails, you're in it together. Yeah. And I don't know. That's just, uh, and I always, and I still feel like that, I've talked to scump about it, but something about like the camaraderie of playing competitively, Halo or Kod, and then you retire in that like, it's like, yeah, we are in opt to get together and we all want this to rise but everyone sort of does their stuff individually
Starting point is 00:51:45 then i just always like kind of i miss having a a team to where it's like boom sit down call this time what are we what are we doing today to yeah i don't know i just that part i mean that part is fun there's a there's a there's an element when we hit like our flow state with tst where it's like why do you say the past therapy time why do you say the past month has been because you said it's not even like views or anything what I mean it's it it's just like
Starting point is 00:52:20 what's caused a lot of a lot of to struggle in your mind TST is like I mean why are you struggling it's probably it probably I mean a lot of it is me but it's a when the three of us think very differently
Starting point is 00:52:35 and and then also like, also... You mean you think differently than them? Most. I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:42 they think differently in some ways, too. Because they do, I want to play, I want to play. You're just, how are we going to make this
Starting point is 00:52:48 playing good? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But also, also we, uh, I know you guys are probably like,
Starting point is 00:52:56 oh, true edits. You're talking about the editor for Scump? You're talking about the optic editor? No, he was ours first.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Ah, here we go. He was ours. And then Scump stole him and, and now he's just fucking But true I mean true is
Starting point is 00:53:11 True he's like I'll never He's like I'll never leave you guys Because you guys are the OGs but also we have to pay him And we have to pay Atlas And it's it's tough whenever You know we're getting to a point where like we got to figure out how And like it's it's it's tough
Starting point is 00:53:29 And when you put that kind of pressure on top of like already Trying to figure out how we're going to make it work And make it entertaining and make it fun in first place It gets I mean it's it's it's It's fucking tough. Yeah. It's tough. If I've said it multiple times, but if Blake and George were not my best, I, I've said it a lot and I, now I'm double tripling down.
Starting point is 00:53:48 No one else could do what the three of us do. Nobody. It's fucking. I mean, is there anyone that? No, there's no one. No one can do it. Look, you saw what happened with Joe Budden in his podcast. They split up.
Starting point is 00:54:02 It's like, it's very, it's impossible to do it because, like, like, what? We have a very, very unique relationship where it's like those are, I'm assuming how I see Blake and George or how brothers see each other, like how siblings. I've never had a sibling. So I'm just assuming that's how it is. And it's, and it's,
Starting point is 00:54:22 it's tough, but, you know, we'll find a way through it. We've had a bunch of talks and shit like that, trying to get back on track. And, and I think we all see eye to eye and in most cases now.
Starting point is 00:54:36 But I don't know. It's still, I mean, it's still mad fun. We're going to do it as long as, as possible. Blake is now on his, like, as long as I'm still breathing, it will, it will not go away. And I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, all right. Like, I don't know where this. He loves it, dude.
Starting point is 00:54:54 They both love it. But I thought formal, who we would have talked about this with today, but sketched. I thought formal was getting to a point. where, like, you could tell with Halo, he was kind of, like, falling off the I'm a gamer. I love gaming thing. Yeah. Like, I thought he was kind of falling off of that. But then I see him playing, like, fucking that Wukon game.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And he's like, dude, this is, like, the best game of all time. I'm just like, fuck, man. I'm so just. Gamer, gamer. Yeah. And I'm just like, fuck, I'm so, like, jealous of that feeling because it used to be so fun. Bro. And now I just, I just fucking rot my brain.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Dude, when I'm telling you... No, but this new card, though. I'm telling you, I haven't been... The last time I was addicted to a game was 2020, and it was Minecraft. I'm kind of... Sorry. Sorry. I'm interrupting again, and I'm fucking yapping.
Starting point is 00:55:54 I'm kind of excited to play, like, do an Eldon Ring, like, Sub-Athon thing, and just, like, how long until I can beat it. But not necessarily for the game, just the, like, community experience of, like, people enjoying it. But that's just the game itself. I don't give a shit. You will. I haven't been addicted to a game. Besides, since Minecraft in 2020,
Starting point is 00:56:16 I can't get enough of this Eldon Ring shit. If there's one thing I do appreciate, it's a good product. Bro, I'm telling you, I never thought I would have liked Eldon Ring. Never liked, I never even, I never even touched the Dark Souls because I saw it and I was like,
Starting point is 00:56:31 why the hell would anyone want to play that? You ain't no nerd? Yeah, I'm not, I'm going to fight a, big boss and then I'm going to be like okay and then I'm going to run to the next room and there's another big boss that sounds boring like that sounds like why would anyone
Starting point is 00:56:44 play that dude it's it's it's we hop on Eldon Ring and I'm like this is going to be a fun little thing it'll be it'll be rage inducing it'll be fun dog the game is
Starting point is 00:56:58 it makes it it's a $60 game and it puts a fucking shit on every other game that's $60. No other game should cost $60. Every game should be free. Every game should be free.
Starting point is 00:57:14 It is kind of crazy. Because this game should, if this game charged $150, $180, I would still pay for it. It is unbelievable. The graphics are unbelievable. The world, dog.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Oh, shit, you're passionate. Dog, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I heard people say this too much. me and I was like all right I get you like an open world game yeah I know God of war is pretty good I know sure left of us Red Dead Redemption
Starting point is 00:57:47 But dude The the scale of that game of Eldon Ring is unbelievable It is it is a it is the It is in my top five immediately Immediately It is amazing
Starting point is 00:58:02 We beat it yesterday And we beat it we beat it using a mod where all three of us could play together so it was glitchy so I might turn around I might turn around and do a solo run too because it is Wait aren't you guys playing like three people
Starting point is 00:58:18 So we're we're playing a mod of Of Eldon Ring where every boss is three times stronger Every enemy is three times stronger Oh okay so So it's it's In some cases it's a lot harder And in some cases it's a lot easier because we can hit them multiple times
Starting point is 00:58:37 so they stagger a lot more often and I'm using like magic so Blake and George are in there with swords and I'm like behind them just like hitting them with fucking magic rocks and shit and like coming comey haze and but it is dude I'm telling you
Starting point is 00:58:54 I'm telling you at least try it at least at least do try like a 24 hour sub-aathon and we have we have the Halo Halo World Championships next weekend. I'm going to be joining Scumps Watch Party. Also got something special plan for the watch party as well.
Starting point is 00:59:14 And then I think I'm thinking I'm going to use that because I'm going to be obviously streaming on my channel as well. But do the Halo Watch Party and then from then on after start streaming again. I think I might just go straight from the watch party and then on Monday so I'd do like an Eldon Ring. You do it from your place? here here. Well, if I do it,
Starting point is 00:59:38 I kind of want to, if I do a sub-a-thon, I kind of want to, it's fucking hard with the animals because then my girl would have to, she,
Starting point is 00:59:46 like, because she's gone from 8 a.m. to 6.45 p.m. So it's like, then if I was to do it from here, she would have to go home
Starting point is 00:59:55 from work and, especially if I did multiple days, like they're just locked up all day. Charlie's in her little fucking pin. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:03 So it's just with that, if I didn't have dogs I would obviously just do it here and like not really give a fuck and just just do a play it till I beat it set up a mattress here or whatever but I don't know it's just hard to say I would rather do it here because I feel like it'd be more of a vibe have people come in and hop on stream with me or whatever I think it would go a little bit better and just be more entertaining so I might just end up doing this and having mission I'll hold the owl with the dogs. Just get it, just do daycare. But we'll see.
Starting point is 01:00:40 I think that sort of, actually you're right. Daycare. Daycare is the way to, I mean, if for, we're planning like a 24-hour type beat thing, and for that,
Starting point is 01:00:51 I'm probably just going to pop Mason daycare for a few days, just so he gets all the attention because he's got, he's got some really good, uh, really good, uh, daycare people on Rover that like watching it whenever I go. So,
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah. Might just treat it that way. Yeah, I actually completely forgot about that. We could do that. But yeah, that's sort of the plan. Halo World's next weekend. God, that'd be... I don't want to go, dude.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Imagine... Oh, yeah, I don't know if... I mean, I don't know if it's been announced and I don't know when this is dropping, but we will not be in Seattle. It's not on me. Whatever Scump wants to do, we do what Skump wants to do. There were some internal reasons.
Starting point is 01:01:34 of why we aren't. And during the watch party, maybe I'm sure we'll talk about it and scumple explain, but we will be here for the watch party. I'm excited for it. Imagine formal wins again. You think he retires if he wins?
Starting point is 01:01:53 I don't. Usually there's like people he's unpredictable. There's, yeah, I can't read him. I can't read what's going on. And I was wondering today if we were going to like kind of cherry pick at that a little bit. But I was like, I wonder if he'd even.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I texted him. Honestly, I was like, it might be weird because all the questions you want to ask, what's your plans after this? He can't answer. He can't answer. So I was like, what the fuck are we even going to like talk? Like that's why I tweeted out. And I was like, you know guys, formal is going to be on their podcast.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Give me something. Because everything everyone wants to know as far as his future, we just wouldn't be able to add or he wouldn't be able to talk about. So, yeah, I don't know. if formal wins worlds, does he stay with Halo? Does he leave on top? I think he leaves on top. That would be kind of, I feel like that might be the end.
Starting point is 01:02:47 But then it's like then what? But that being said, there's an entire, there's an, the HCS is funded an entire another season for the same amount. So like you're leaving, I don't know how. You're leaving tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands on the table. so it really depends yeah depends on what he wants to do yeah I texted him whenever console
Starting point is 01:03:09 Val came out because he loves Val and he's like you know arguably the best console player in the world yeah and I'm like if he never texts me back but I was like if if Val comes out with a league for console you had the audacity to even text
Starting point is 01:03:25 him thinking a response was coming I was probably high waiting on Taco Bell for real and so I text and I was like dude you should do you should really look into this console vows shit like as far as money legacy is there something like i'm sure i'm sure riot's going to do something i feel i thought it console vow would just kind of be like uh what was that game everyone was hyping up and then two weeks after no one gives a fuck anymore exify it yeah i thought it'd kind of be like like oh shit yeah this is cool yeah we don't then just
Starting point is 01:04:00 no one cares anymore vows just a good good like The bones of Val is such a good game. Yeah, I don't know where it's, and I don't know where we were going to go. I mean, we would have talked about random shit if Forma was on, but yeah, all the questions we want to know, man, we're going to have to wait and see. It's like if he wins, does he stay?
Starting point is 01:04:22 If he wins, does he go out on top? If he stops, does he switch to Cod? Does he stop become a content? Like, I could see Formal just return. retiring becoming a but I also I was gonna say I could see formal retiring becoming like a content creator
Starting point is 01:04:38 and I think that would do really well with him because like I'll tune in his streams now and it's he will say funny shit and he is a good streamer but when he really wants to be a good streamer same when he's on podcast you never know what formal you're gonna fucking get sometimes he can say three words
Starting point is 01:04:54 and the people will say I fucking love formal formal formal was hilarious with that sentence he said so I could see formal retiring and doing extremely well especially it doesn't imagine formal scump zinny and me streaming streaming streaming streaming together every day or playing war zone i'm sure i'm sure it goes really well dude i don't think matt's like but i don't think he's like i don't think he needs something to fucking matt is going to retire and he's going to do something else immediately like compete is he's
Starting point is 01:05:27 either going to try apex or he's going to try war zone or he's going to try com for he's going to I think he's gonna even think about like an optic war zone team. Apex. I mean, I think, I don't think Matt will play war zone because it's not inherently competitive. I think he'll play Apex. I think he would grab two and play Apex. I really do. But, bam, he could probably get some.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Dude, he could, he could join a team within a year. Yeah. Within a year, he could join a team. A nasty team, too. not to mention just the formal buff of him because there's certain people you want to have that experience of like I've always wanted to team with formal
Starting point is 01:06:11 I don't know how they are I don't know how friendly they are or anything outside of game Do you think Snipdown would team with formal immediately or no? I don't know where Snipdown's at in his Apex career right now I mean I don't want to speak out of my ass
Starting point is 01:06:28 but I don't know if formal would team with him because I think think and that's not a because I'm thinking formal is going to come in to try to win right I get sure and I don't I haven't maybe Eric is in the top right now I don't
Starting point is 01:06:42 I don't know where Snipe down stands in Apex I just feel like I haven't really seen his name around the past like year so I would assume Matt Matt likes Apex I would assume Snipe down is not necessarily in the top like 12 maybe I just don't know
Starting point is 01:07:01 And I think when Formal comes in, he's, like, he needs that if he has two good players that he, that have placed good and are currently placing good, it's going to be so much. Like, he will make it a thing to fucking keep up with them and impress the fucking apex community. If it, I think, I think he would look at Snipe down, like, maybe they both have like similar play styles and maybe He wouldn't think Snip down is like Evolved in Apex enough He would rather
Starting point is 01:07:38 He would be able He knows snipe down's good But it's a little, He'd rather get like I would look at it like He'd rather get like two cracked fucking apex players And like work
Starting point is 01:07:48 Work with that You really never know with Matt But yeah Matt Matt Matt when he likes somebody And it wants to impress them He's like all about them Dude
Starting point is 01:07:56 And then when he He plays so good And then when he's like When he's like Nah I wouldn't never team with them Like he's like kind of like written them off. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:06 So while we're just sitting here speculating. God knows what formal. But you know, you know that DMR shots come on next week. It is actually insane how consistent he has been every single. I mean, he's probably out of a bad tournament or something. But just the past 14 years to be that guy on your team. team.
Starting point is 01:08:33 I mean, lucid, I would say people were kind of looking at him. Like he was the best player, if not the best
Starting point is 01:08:38 player in the league. But for formal to just do what he's done for as long as he has, and he's always that name on the team of like, fuck, like if he's,
Starting point is 01:08:49 he's just always doing, playing good. Yeah. I'm just amazed at how long and these are just some of the things I was thinking about, like, asking him today.
Starting point is 01:08:58 But it's just like how long he has been that guy. Because a lot of people will be that guy for like a year or two. Like this, I'm trying to think of like a cod, like, say, Hooke. Like, Hooke was probably that fucking guy for like a year or two.
Starting point is 01:09:12 And then they kind of get top six and maybe a top eight. But foremost just like on fucking top every single time, every game he plays for the last 14 years. Yeah. So we'll see, man. Hey, Little Worlds next weekend. I think we also have a special guest next week as well. Do we?
Starting point is 01:09:30 That's going to do it for the. All right. for the flycast episode 121 i appreciate you guys sorry i was sniffling into the mic i'm sick that's my bad yeah sorry if i talk too much again on my on my own podcast uh mac crack play that outrovin play that outroo me

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