The Flycast - New FaZe vs Old FaZe... Who's In The Wrong | The Flycast Ep. 78
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What are you watching, man?
Reliving the good old days.
I'm so in love with your honey.
Everything that makes me feel right.
I'm so in love with the honey.
Do you know what song he's saying?
You never heard that song?
I think I have heard that.
Is that what you were just playing?
Yeah, well, it's a song.
I think it's called Danny's song.
Danny's song.
It's by like Kenny Loggins or whatever from like way back in the day.
But I just saw the Red Hot Chili Peppers in concert.
And at one point during the show, what?
Was that a bucket listener?
I saw you were fucking hype.
I was so hype.
And at one point in the song, like the lead guitarist, like everyone leaves, but he just goes
on stage and just plays him and his guitar and just sings that song.
And it's such a feel good song.
And then it's just back to give it away.
Give it like just like back to like.
Back to like fucking funky shit.
Is your girl into that as well?
Or why do you?
Did you go to, you went to Houston just for that concert?
Yeah, so, well, what had happened was whenever, whenever I was a, like, first getting into guitar.
It's not really no red hot chili peppers.
You don't?
Whatever you just said, I'm just like, yeah.
But it's like.
That wasn't a red hot.
That wasn't a red hot show.
That's like a really old song.
But he just did a cover of it.
Well, whenever you said he got on stage, you playing these.
guitar and you're like smiling and shit i'm like i have no idea about anything you're saying um so back
in the day like when i first started getting into guitar like i just you start figuring out your
favorite guitarist so like jimmy hendricks and and like smoke on the water he did that smoke on the
water smoke that's the first i got i got a guitar when i was like 11 or something
that's the first song everyone deep purple deep purple yeah
I had their album.
You had the Deep Purple album?
I like was,
even back then I was fake.
Like just trying to get into new music and shit.
I'm like 10.
So I'm,
so I like,
especially Stevie Ray Vaughan and like bluesy stuff.
I like love bluesy stuff.
And then I found this,
uh,
I think there's a few friends of mine that really started that liked the chili peppers.
And I like,
I like,
rock rock albums that have guitar solos like guitar is a big part of it because there's a lot of people
out there that just like it's just it's just like they do a song and they sing and there's no guitar
solo or there's no drum solo and I'm just kind of like eh it's feel like it's missing something
but then the chili peppers the first time I had like watched them live like on the tv is this is
like before YouTube I was watching them on Google video that's how far back this was yeah there's
not it's not in Google video is not even a thing anymore but I watched their like entire live
at slang castle like uh it was like the only time they like broadcasted it or like to that like
with that quality and just like how good he was at guitar I was like obsessed with it so I was like
I'm eventually going to see them in concert and this is I'm like and then 20 years later and middle
school well then the guitarist that I like though the glue that brought the whole I love the whole
band but my favorite guitarist
is him. He left the band
when I was in early
college, which is when I first
am able to like have freedom to go
to stuff. And he didn't
come back until last year. So he
was gone for like 10 years.
What's crazy? Is
these? Like when did they start?
They have been and they're still touring.
Like 91.
Dude that's so. It was
packed. I can't. It was
really? I was like. Because I can't
if I like feel bad
like if I'm still
doing this
I mean it depends
not really doing this
but if like
damn there's not really a way I can like
I because I was I know exactly
same for me I know exactly
but it's like you see
say some fucking
like you see A Sob Rock doing shows
You're like too still like
there ain't yeah
You know
you know
he's gonna be so pissed at that
but like I don't know
I don't know it's just crazy that they like
tour for that
see that's what doing the same
song I was like kind of thinking that
and then I saw how many people were there
and I was like
you can't hate on that
yeah there are there were like
30,000 people there
like it might be different for that genre
even when I see I saw like
usher or like you know
people like B2K or fucking like these random like groups will be doing shows and it's just like not doesn't look popping like that.
I don't kind of makes me, but I feel like something like red hot chili peppers and like groups rock and shit, they're way more like timeless.
For sure.
I don't think our generation has bands like that.
Maybe if like, maybe if Taylor Swift stop making music, Katie Perry stop making music and then they go on a reunion tour like, okay.
I mean, because like, I mean, that being said, I never went to any of the Backstreet Boys, like, reunion tour.
So I don't know how there could have been.
And they're still, they still do shit.
They still tour, yeah.
So there could be 20,000 people at those shows.
They're just like out of shape.
Yeah.
I just don't know how I feel about that.
The chili pepper were not out of shit.
Flea's still up there, shirtless at 65 or however old he is.
Damn.
Just fucking.
He did a handstand across the stage.
He was wearing a skirt, a purple.
skirt and he did a handstand and his skirt came down and he's wearing black tidy witties
and he's just 60 or something every time i hear of like like someone epic like that and i just know
their life their life has just been epic and then it's yeah and it just like makes me think of like
fuck man like i mean i have a pretty i need to bring myself back to reality i have a pretty like epic life
I guess.
But not really in the reality.
From the outside, like, no, I don't actually.
Like, but it's good.
And it is, maybe I'm just used to it.
I don't know where I stand in fucking reality, like, at this point.
Because I do, I've gotten to travel all the time.
But then I, like, look at their fucking life.
And it's just like the amount of cities they've gone to, the crowds they get to play in front of.
The fucking the groupies, the drugs, the alcohol.
Well, it's like the older bands, they don't even do, like,
they don't do shit like that anymore.
I wonder how their life, like, they just live some regular ass life.
Most of them do.
And then they get on stage and everyone's like, yeah, like worshiping them and shit.
Dude, it was crazy because they tour with a band called The Strokes, I think.
I never heard of them.
But the strokes go on stage and Alexis and I are walking around, like, getting drinks.
and stuff.
And like people are fucked up.
No.
Because it was so hot.
It was in Houston.
So it was like,
outside.
It was in the,
the Astro Stadium.
So it was like a,
it can be outside,
but,
you know,
but they closed the top.
So it was just hot.
So I was like,
I don't want to drink too much.
Like,
I want to enjoy this.
I'm waiting fucking 20 years to see these guys.
Because,
because they had just gotten back together like two years ago.
So they just,
this is their first tour.
back together.
And so I never thought
I would be able to see them together.
So it was kind of like a treat
more than anything
because, you know,
when your favorite band,
like people who want to watch
Oasis Live,
like I...
Wonder War?
Yeah, they hate each other.
Like, they broke up here.
From my understanding,
unless something has changed,
but last I heard,
they like hate each other.
So you're never going to see Oasis live.
But if they had a reunion tour
and if they went on fucking tour,
I need to look it up
because I could be spewing on my ass.
right now, but,
but if they went on tour, like,
they were selling out, like,
they had, like, Woodstock level people.
Oasis?
Oasis?
And, in, uh,
didn't they just have Wonderwall?
Or am I,
see,
I don't,
I don't listen.
Wonderwall was on my MySpace,
like, top.
How many songs they let you have?
Was it 10?
I think you could just make a playlist, right?
But I think when you clicked on someone's profile,
like,
there was, like, a list of songs on the left.
Maybe it was the whole playlist.
Maybe it was like 10.
But I remember Wonderwall being one of my songs, but I didn't know they were like popping
like that.
Damn, who would I want to see?
Yeah, I was wondering.
I wish, um, Eminem for sure, like in the slim, shady days.
Yeah, he'll never tour again.
I think I was going to say something, but it might be ridiculous.
Like, is anyone more like epic than him?
But like, there's a lot of fucking.
There's a lot of epic people.
Yeah, there's a lot of epic people.
But like seeing him back in like,
like 2000 or something like that.
Mob deep,
Prodigy passed away.
Mob Deep with havoc and Prodigy would have been,
even like these days,
I'd still be down to see them.
I think they still tour, right?
Prodigy's dead.
Well, I know, but I'm saying,
didn't they grab some,
or who am I thinking of?
Maybe.
Maybe I'm thinking of Wu-Tang and ODB's
son wraps his verses.
Maybe.
I'm thinking of something.
I don't think Mobbdi, I don't think
Moabee doesn't do that.
Okay.
Who did Hector's going?
Hector saw someone, one of those old,
I get those groups mixed up.
They're not all the same.
Bone thugs?
I think he saw,
he saw them like a couple years ago.
Dude, X is fucking hilarious.
He's not in fact.
Imagine Hax.
I don't know who he went with
to the show, but like imagining him
at like a bone thugs concert.
It's bone and big, big.
Like, just imagine him and fucking Mario.
Like, Hex tries to act cool, but, like, I just can't see him.
Hex only fanboys for a few people.
And Riz is the only one that I've ever, like.
Like, if we could go to a random show and we would act more, like, we might get drunk or something.
And we would just, like, have fun and, like, act goofy sort of.
Like, I can't imagine Hex, like, standing in the crowd.
Just like.
Did you, uh, did you ever take?
You took your flip phone there?
Yeah.
Did you take your other real phone to actually get quality videos?
Alexis Scott.
Alexis got a lot of good stuff on her phone.
Why are you using that again?
I thought it was for like a week.
It is, but I don't think I've gotten enough in a week,
so I'm going to do it for like a few more days.
Can you say the point of what you do?
Yeah, I mean, I used a flip phone for a week.
That's the point.
What's been the biggest difference?
Not being able to Google things.
damn that that actually how often is that does that happen you don't you don't realize how often it
happens so no twitter if i'm saying like i'll like text alexis or i'll text alice and just be like
what is this like can you google this and then they'll send me the answer yeah so you have it
have you not touched your other phone no i mean i mean i like check instagram or something have i
seen you on instagram no i'll like check my email at night before i go to bed i'm not going to put
that in the video. I'm going to be a fake hashtag fake YouTuber. Well, why don't you just use your laptop?
You know? Just use your laptop for the email. Well, I also check my like I message just to see
if somebody sent me something important. Yeah. But I, I, it's been crazy, bro, like, like, like,
texting on this is like, here, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull you up. Yeah, don't you have to hit it three times.
No, you do teen. Did you ever text with T9? That's crazy.
how I somehow remember the term T9, but no, I don't really remember what it does.
So like, yeah, oh shit.
So like text yourself.
Why is Paige fucking texting me?
Should I call her on the podcast?
Yeah, call it on the flip phone.
Should I?
Yeah.
Wait, is there a speaker on it?
Yeah, it's called hands free.
It's not called speaker.
Wait, I'm gonna say, I mean, what do I?
You're, I don't know.
I don't know how to do it.
That's so funny
you don't remember T9.
I don't know if you ever...
Did you ever have like a flip phone
with texting?
Or did you go straight to the...
I think I had...
I think I went
from a track phone
which is just like one big block.
I remember that.
And then I think I went from the track phone
to a sidekick.
A sidekick.
Where you flip it?
Yeah, I had a sidekick.
I can't remember if I had a flip...
Yeah, I can't.
I can't remember if I had a flip phone.
Yeah. See, I never had a...
I had a flip phone, but I didn't have texting.
Like, I had a razor, but I wasn't allowed to text.
But I...
I just got a new phone.
Oh, you did?
Yeah.
For content.
Matt Craig, get to the lab.
We got to figure this out.
I guess I don't know if I told you about this.
No, I've never talked about.
We...
So I bought a bicycle.
And I've talked about this.
I bought a bicycle.
We bought Matt Craig, like, sent me.
like, go buy this and then brought it here.
He hooked it all up.
Like the backpack?
Huh?
Like a router backpack type?
No, it's not.
It's just two phones.
So it's just two phones with like, but we set up like a mic, the Mofi's.
Oh wow.
The like bar that extends.
So I put my phone on there and I can like ride.
The plan is riding my bicycle like around Dallas.
That's fucking cool.
Just doing like IRL streams like that.
But also with like two phones, I could like say I go to the pool, set up.
a tripod and like see it on my or go to the gym or i'll just be able to like stream better
iRL content but the whole bicycle thing like so there's a i don't know what you'd call it like a
mike arm sticking out for my bicycle everyone just fucking stares at it but like i put my phone down
and like the streets are just so like bumpy bumpy that it just goes like this and i like tried
recording a video.
And it's just,
I don't know how we're going to figure it out.
It's not really,
everything's fine except that.
We just got to figure out like the stabilization.
But I don't know.
That'll be fine.
Yeah,
looking to do something different besides,
I'm probably played Little Halo this week
because there is the Halo event.
I guess Dreamhack or whatever coming up.
So I'll probably play some Halo this week.
But I don't know, man.
I'm just like,
just kind of like over it.
But I like need and want something to do.
And like I have in this in my head,
like I'll go to pool parties and just like have fun.
But it's like also it's like,
am I going to be drinking all this time?
And I don't want my life to because I'm trying to be on my like health shit as well.
And I don't want my life turning into like other IRA streamers to where they're like,
Kind of just getting fucked up all the time.
How was the girls in the video?
How's the video coming?
The 60 day video.
I don't know.
I'm waiting on him to,
he better be clutching.
Lando better be fucking clutching.
It's been,
how long has it been?
I feel like a week and a half,
maybe two weeks.
I need to text him today and see where that's,
where that is.
I'm not really in too much of,
because it doesn't necessarily,
I mean,
it can't be too long of a wait.
but try not to rush it we'll see i think he's gonna come over
he'll come over one day this week show me it
but yeah hopefully we can figure this shit out it's like a relatively like
i'm honestly like it stresses me out like i look back and i'm like man i could
have like like what i was envisioning at first into like i was i'm gonna come out shredded
but it's just like, dude, I did it for two months.
And I did it for two months.
Loss will say almost like 15 pounds,
which is like really good.
And then,
but I just, apparently,
I just,
you can't just magically get fucking shredded.
I'm totally not.
Dude, it's so hard, man.
And then like,
I was even,
I was even thinking like,
maybe I can cheat the system.
And like,
while he's at,
editing it, I still continue this diet and working out every day. And I'm, I put in, in the past
week, I've ran almost like 25 miles. Yeah. I've worked out every single day. But I've had
chicken chicken, like, I'm talking like, I have my, I have my regular day. I have like a protein shake.
I'll have something like a Chipotle label or Kava. I don't know if you've had Kava. And then I'll
still be pretty full, but I'm like, damn, I need to eat like one more time.
Definitely need some protein in me.
So I'll order two spicy chicken sandwiches, a large fry, mac and cheese, go to the gas station,
like three rice Krispies, a pack of donuts.
And it's just like, and then I'll be like, but tomorrow I'm going to wake up and run 10 miles.
So it's like, it almost cancels this out.
You're mine.
Even though it doesn't, even though it does not fucking cancel it out.
And then, like, last night, what did I eat?
I pegged out.
Actually, the day...
So that was, like, Friday night.
Saturday night, I ordered...
And these are all, like, my first three days, like, done from the...
Or my first, like, few days done from the video.
Saturday, I think I had a regular day of eating.
Then it got it to nighttime.
And I'm, like, I'm a little hungry.
So I ordered Pizza Hut.
I ate, like, ordered pizza.
I ordered a large pepperoni pizza.
pizza.
God,
that sounds so funny.
Oh,
damn,
you can't.
That sounds so
fun.
Dude,
it was so good.
The large
pepperoni pizza,
like 18
boneless wings.
Oh.
And a big,
in a dessert
cookie,
which is like one
of the big ones
in like,
in like the box.
Yeah.
Had seven slices
of pizza,
probably like 10 wings,
and I ate the entire
cookie.
That was probably like
4,000 calories.
And then next day,
I woke up, I ran like four miles.
And I just think it's like, I'm canceling this out, but it's not even close.
Then I'm like, oh,
miles is like 700 calories.
And then after the pizza, like when you're full, you're like, all right, I'm done.
Like when I wake up tomorrow, groceries, fucking.
Then like tomorrow comes around.
I do, I'd work out.
I lift weights.
I run.
It's like four or five p.m.
I haven't even ate yet.
And then I think, what was it?
Yesterday.
What did I eat?
I don't know.
It's like two large rice Krispies, a kava, like Chipotle sort of bowl.
What else that?
Cheba Hut.
Have you had Chewit?
I don't know.
It's like a Dallas thing.
But it's like a large sub.
Then I had like 10 pretzel mini bites.
And it's just, it's actually insane how much I can eat.
And like probably what I've done in the past three days,
it was like ruined the past like month.
I mean,
so my plan on like being like while he edits,
I'm just gonna lean down a little bit
and we'll get like a better after shot.
Because it's not that it's,
I try to make a point that it wasn't,
I wanted a crazy transformation.
But the point wasn't about the crazy transformation.
The point was,
oh, I don't feel like going to the gym.
I'm not going to the gym.
Or like I can't,
I can't,
could never stick to a diet or just like a diet of like not necessarily being in a caloric
deficit but a diet of just like eating clean could never stick to it i'll always uh yeah do some cheat
day or fucking something but so i want the point to be about just sticking to a goal and actually doing
it which we achieved it had its ups and downs i really think it's like it's weird i think
I think how much food affected.
Like, I definitely felt stress and shit.
But the better I ate, for some reason, I just, like, had more peace.
Things that would, like, truly, and I've noticed it since I've stopped eating that way.
The past, like, three days just goes, oh, the challenge is over.
I'm going to start, like, binge eating.
Yeah.
I feel like the past, like, three or four days, I'm just, like, a little more, like, groggy.
And I just stressed and over.
How's your sleep, Ben?
I'm thinking.
My sleep is never good.
Really?
Yeah.
It's weird, you say that?
Because I feel like two days ago I woke up and my sleep was just so bad.
And I was like randomly thinking like, I'm my ass hitching on the fly guys.
Like, how is his sleep?
My sleep is so shit all the time.
I wake up 100 times.
I wake up sweaty.
If I go on like, because with this whole like vegan thing like,
it doesn't mean you're eating good
like I've said that a hundred times
but like if if I
if I have like going vegan will not save
it won't and also if you go vegan
just because you went vegan
does it mean
like the
people who like really go vegan
like they're like
the people with the annoying ass
I'm a vegan shirts
and he's with me
he's a vegan shirt
do you guys hear that
did the
vegan community hear that you guys are fucking annoying they are i didn't say it hitched said that
but i support the people who do the people who like live that lifestyle we were like oh my god
those people they eat they eat veggies and that's it like they eat veggies and avocado yeah and
tofu but they're like they're like health they're health kicks like like i've i've just
want to experiment i'm doing this year thing because i just want to experiment to see what it's like
It's fucking weird.
And I'm almost six months in, but four months of that has been like, okay, like I'm pounding
chips and salsa.
I'm pounding, you know, avocado, like guacamole and chips and coke.
You did lose weight, though.
Yeah, no, I definitely lost weight.
You got under 200.
Yeah.
But that's also, I'm, I'm doing this running thing too.
So the combination of both of them.
But you can, but so every once in a while, like yesterday I had like a, like a, like a, like
a right like a power bowl and it had like a bunch of you know from like 54th street and it had like
an impossible patty on top as the meat and like it just it didn't really feel that great to eat like
it was it was good but it didn't feel that great to eat like I'm sure there's a bunch of shit in there
but like days where I'm like I'm really just like rice beans avocado salads uh you know water
real food.
Like I'm eating real, like a lot of fruits and stuff.
You're eating food.
Like those, when I go on like a four or five day kick of that, like, dude, the sleep that I get is so good.
Really?
And that's what I've always, I've always heard.
Whenever I, like, talking, like, before I started this, I was, like, talking to a few, like, people that I knew at least went vegan at one point or are still vegan.
And I'm like, is, like, please don't bullshit me.
Like, am I going to see anything?
signs of happiness from this.
And they're like, uh,
you will get the best sleep.
Like sleep is like the best thing.
And I do notice it.
It's,
it is kind of crazy.
Yeah.
Sleep has never been.
Sleep has always been bad for me.
Even like,
I will just lay in bed and put your phone down.
That does absolutely nothing.
Even in like,
bro,
my parents would make me do that in like middle school.
of like turn the TV off and it's like 10 p.m.
I just lay there until 2 a.m.
And it's just, I don't know.
I feel like that's definitely something I need to step up in my life.
Or figure out.
Like I've tried like pills fucking like talked at a doctor and they try to.
Melatonin. shit.
Melatonin gives me nightmares.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
Sleep's fucking.
Sleep's always been a struggle for me.
You know what?
I want.
Have you seen the,
this is a little switch up.
You see the,
what's her name?
Fuck.
Grace and face rain.
Dude.
And it's funny.
I saw in face Santana.
Just got cooked.
Dude.
Oh my God.
I should fucking pull up some shit.
But I saw,
I saw like one of his tweets.
He tweeted about like,
this is the best like shaver I've ever used.
And I was like,
let me see the replies to this.
And I saw,
because I saw like 90.
And I was expecting to click it
and just see him getting fucking verbaled.
But he wasn't.
But this whole phase,
did you see Raines reply to...
His video on the Nick Merck's situation?
Where he goes through all of the fucking finances of phase.
Wait, the Nick Merck's?
Yeah, so how this all started was,
well,
rain's kind of been going at the,
Faze Corporation
for a while
but he said
something like
you know like
none of our
none of the OGs
are getting paid
and Nick Merk's
getting paid a million dollars a year
and he's never been
in the Faze video
and he doesn't do anything
with Faze
and a lot of people
were like damn rain salty
like he's pocket watching
other men and shit like that
which like there's an aspect to it
I don't the thing
the thing with the phase
OGs and this is the mistake
that we made or that I made specifically
because we went through a very similar situation
if you're gonna get upset
with the corporation
of phase it will always be better
to not name drop
it always will be
because then people will compare
Yeah but they're just real
Rain don't give a fuck
Yeah but
it comes across so poor
in my opinion
now because there's been a bunch of shit that phase is done that from the outside looking in i'm like
what the fuck are they doing yeah i've seen some collabs where i'm just they pick up a a amateur
valerant team that is they're paying fucking 300 000 a month for and it's like from the outside
looking in why are you doing that and then they're also they also pick up a i should have joined
phase.
They also pick up a women's valerent team that they're probably paying 100 grand a month for.
And so that's like why, and they're not making any content with any of the teams.
They're not promoting them.
They're not, you know, collaborating with them.
They're not using them in content.
They're doing nothing with the teams except throwing money at the wall.
And I guess hoping they qualify four years down the line.
I don't know.
And so like, I see that go.
I see that from my perspective.
And I'm like, that doesn't sound like.
at all like what the fuck is that and you know they they there's a and that happens not just in
Val that happened in everything like the I think one of the only cool things that phase is done
that is like you know I'm a little biased but I love what they've done with the flank I think they
gave they gave the the the but also I can see the return on the flank if if phases sales
team sells off of the flank as a podcast then there's at least some sort of return there
And that's kind of like how I've been thinking.
But like if you don't say anything about all those, all that situation.
Like all and there's tons of examples of things like that.
But then the second they hire a girl, everyone bashes them for all their decisions.
It's kind of like, bro, what?
People might not just even know.
Why wouldn't you?
First off, she has, I don't want to say a big mouth, but she doesn't help her case.
I haven't.
She is horrible at arguing.
Or like, she's horrible at like,
I feel like getting people on her side.
Because I almost wanted to be like,
like to rain like, dude, like,
why are you like,
why are you coming at her?
Like, she's just a girl that wanted to get signed.
But like, she's kind of like,
I don't know the word,
but she's not the best at defending herself.
almost digging
almost like kind of digging
a hole. Really? And then
did you see she like, first off, I'll play
this. We need a
I need a goddamn Matt Craig.
Nothing you can do. We just don't have
a TV, a setup, and shit for them to hear.
We need like an optic podcast set up so I can like,
I'm just going to play this in the mic. Okay, play it on the mic.
Have you heard that? You're fucking wrecked.
I just can't compete with that.
Man, I can't. She rose to me. It's over.
Grace, I'm sorry. All I want to say is your golden valour.
It makes stranger things your entire personality, even though you're all on one episode.
You found out about Twitch through Tumblr.
Not only have you not hit a trick shot, but you don't even know what the fuck that is.
When you were still playing with Barbies, I made my first million out of this industry.
And on top of it, you're excruciatingly made who I would never let touch me on my drunken night.
It's fucking right.
See, like that, that rain doesn't, but.
Come on.
I don't know why Rain said that.
Come on.
I don't know.
I don't know exactly why he said that.
I can't imagine her saying anything that could provoke that.
Yeah, there's no way.
First off, wow, he...
If he went that in on her...
I did laugh.
He should have...
I mean, that's because rain is just...
Yeah.
That's just because it's rain.
He kind of did destroy her a little bit right there.
But then her response to this, if I could find it...
I don't know if this is going to be...
if this is her exact response,
but this is just the next video I saw.
One that's just hired a female creator
to help bring in that energy of the space,
so I don't really am.
I, in response to him using me as a poster child,
I just said, get fucking wrecked.
And he didn't like that.
I don't know how well you'll be able to hear this,
but this is his response.
Oh, wait, fuck, that's not that.
That's her response to hearing what I just said,
but it's just sort of saying like,
damn.
Like that sucks.
No,
there was something she responded with,
basically she said a response of
something about him ODing on stream.
Damn.
Yeah.
I can't,
I can't read that.
Oh, okay.
She poked at his mental health and drug problems.
I want to find it,
that sounds really bad.
Jesus.
For one,
phase on a new.
Oh.
he says that I don't even know what a trick shot is
you're right I don't
and I know that that's kind of what you're known for
but I know you reign as the person
who almost overdosed on a live stream
dude it sounds like she's like
but like why even say that
you're better now and then she like kind of says
like I know you're better now I'm really proud of you for that
her mom was a drug addict and like
I don't know what's
she basically said her mom never recovered and her mom's like not doing better but like she's
proud of him for but it's like that was just weird like why what that was just like very
kind of random and like weird to bring up so wow it's not like what a what a situation she's just
like she digs it deeper not that like rain is in the right versus
like just going off
on this fucking girl
who just joined space
and he's just saying like
and then he's saying like
also he said like also you're super mid
and I wouldn't touch you on my drunkest night
but it's like these little fucking
jabs
of just like no one gives
a fuck about anything
anymore like there's just no
and I know rain doesn't give a fuck
then I've met rain
I like rain I'm proud
of how he's doing now.
Yeah.
And obviously one of the OGs
fucking
those guys took over.
They were the gaming.
Yeah.
Not e-sports, but they like they were the
gaming.
People are just coming into east-fucking people.
Gaming now like the
the 2011 to
2017 run
that those guys had is insane.
Like it's not. Yeah. They were the people.
That was the first wave of it all.
Like they were doing it over here.
Simon was doing it over there.
And like other than that, that was pretty much it.
Yeah.
So I don't, I'm not, I'm not on anyone's side.
Truthfully, I don't.
See, I, I have one regret.
I have a regret from the infinite days.
Someone, at one point, without telling anyone, they signed a creator.
And his name was Luke the Notable.
Do you remember this?
Yeah.
And, and I remember being like,
like who the fuck is Luke denotable and I was so pissed because of the decisions that they made
that I got I got super like upset and and I I know I took that out on him and I didn't mean to
yeah how'd you take it out on him I mean I just ignored him I didn't talk to him he was in the office
a few times and it wasn't on purpose but I just knew if I went up to him and said like hey man like
I knew it would come across as fake because it was fake
because I was pissed and I was hurt and I was angry all the time.
And fast forward a few years later,
I start randomly watching his content
and it's fucking incredible.
It is incredible.
He literally changed YouTube's meta.
He invented 100 days that has eventually turned into 100 hours,
which is eventually turned in.
I spent 24 hours.
and I did this, that, that, that is him.
It all comes from him.
And so as I'm watching his content and I'm, you know, this is where this is way after
infinite.
I realized like, you know, that there are so many, there were multiple instances of that
where somebody would get hired, you know, the, there would be, we'd have randomly have
an Optic India counterstrike team or an Optic Mexico, Gears of War team.
Shouts out
I wonder how that cheater's done
Yeah I wonder how he's done
He's probably like a crypto billionaire
He's living in Dubai
But like there are so many situations
Where they made decisions
That I didn't like
And I let that affect
My thoughts on the people that they hired
When it's not their fault at all
Yeah
And you were the first pays rain
Hell yeah
You should have fucking verbal Luke
now I eventually apologize to him
because I was just like bro I got
there was a lot
nerd your videos are stupid
there's a lot going on and I'm really sorry
if you because I don't know if he ever felt the animosity
or if he ever felt like we were a big click
but we were we lived together for six or for four
yeah we were definitely
but like
you know
whenever all that's happening
like
I just I apologize to him
and and I never got around
to apologizing to
other people that it affected because there was other creators that infinite sign that we had no
part of.
Sheila.
Yeah.
I mean, see, Sheila.
I feel like that was good.
Sheila was really good.
I think Sheila should come back.
Valerant?
She'd have to move here, though.
I don't think she'd do that.
She's probably, is she still on Immortals?
I don't know.
I don't know what she's doing now.
But yeah, like, it, I think, I don't know.
I mean, I'm a lot of a different.
person than some of these guys, but
I think they're going to realize
how fucked up this grace
situation is in a couple years down the line.
Because, like, it's not her fault.
She got an opportunity that
everyone in gaming dreams of.
She just, yeah.
And it's not like she,
like... I don't know her numbers
or, like, viewers or...
Her numbers are pretty good.
I'm sure they're good now.
Yeah. But, like, before she joined phase,
I just don't know.
She was playing with Brooke and Valgaray.
And she was playing with all of them.
So she's in that group.
And I'm sure Faye's tried to sign Nadia.
I'm sure Faze has tried to sign like other big women creators.
But their price point is probably extremely high.
And so Grace is somebody that makes sense is in gaming, might propel the brand forward.
I'm thinking from a corporate mindset has good numbers, is relatively family friendly.
you know, aside from this...
Appeared on...
Was on Stranger Things.
Is an actress.
You know, all this.
So they're like, yeah, let's go with her.
And then thinking that like,
we've signed Nuke Squad.
We've signed all these different
esports teams.
We've signed Nick Merck's.
We've signed a, you know,
a bunch of Fortnite creators.
And the OGs have said nothing.
Yeah.
Like, you might get a little like a jab here and there.
But they have said nothing.
And,
then now all of the sudden
because it's the girl off of strangers
things they go fucking bananas
and I don't know
why specifically they went
or I don't know if I should even say they
all I know is I know
rain with the girl
what's her fucking grace grace
rain with the girl that's about all I know
and then Banks with
Santana
who Santana
Tweetina has a
he has a he has a
Tennessee for it
He has a tendency to open his mouth.
He does.
He does.
I don't know.
I mean, I like him.
I know of him.
Yeah, I've seen him like on camera a few times.
And I don't know.
He's the one that seems like someone I get along.
He's the one that tweeted if Nick Merck's really does get a war zone skin, I'm going to have words with Activision.
I was like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're going to be like, oh God.
Yeah.
That's Santana.
That's kind of funny.
That's kind of funny, though.
But what did?
I, fuck.
I wish I had my fucking research.
What did Santana tweet to,
he deleted everything,
he tweeted something about like,
he tweeted something like the,
like all,
it seems like all the OG phase guys are like,
like the Tico the rain,
Banks got into it with Santana,
they're like complaining about where phase is.
And I,
I'm gonna be honest,
I see both sides.
Like,
I can't say I'm 100% on like team OG.
phase or like even like support i i'm i support them in a way it was like yes phase has gone off on like a
weirder direction yeah but it's 2023 i haven't we haven't seen ogy phase i don't think i've seen them at an
event since 2016 yeah i think the last time i saw them all together was that xbox 360 collab and they
did like one video together where they like talked about the 360 days and i think that was
in like 2020,
2019.
I don't know,
like,
I'm sure some,
like,
sketchy stuff has happened
like behind the scenes.
Banks is saying his fucking shares were stolen from him.
His board chairs?
But apparently,
yeah,
but apparently,
like,
they all have shares.
They,
like,
it seemed pretty,
seem like they,
I mean,
obviously,
they built the thing themselves.
So,
of course,
they like,
they all have a part of the company.
There comes a point where the,
are these fucking
hundreds of
dollars millionaires
want a part of
something
the bigger money
comes in
so of course
it's like
they sort of
give other people
more control
and then
I'm assuming
they got fucking
something out of it
then I'm also assuming
they got to a point
where it's like
we're not living
in the same house
anymore
we got our
we have fucking money
we don't really
need to do this. We live in
L.A. fucking Sin City.
I'm sure they were enjoying their lives and not
you know, they weren't there trying to, they weren't there
internally building, building the company
in 2017, 18,
19, 19, 20, 21, 22.
Yeah. So it's like, I can't, it's hard
to say, first off, I don't know.
I could be completely wrong. They could
have been there behind the scenes the entire time
like really trying
to work something out saying they don't agree
I'm sure they got into the beef and then they disappear
for a year but I'm gonna
I feel like I'm gonna assume they
were just out living their life
which if I was them
I would probably be doing the same
thing if I was in LA I'd be doing the same
thing I'd be going to parties
getting into fucking NFTs and
the cryptos and the figuring out
some other merch and other ways
of making money and
like expanding
not necessarily expanding my brand
but just like expanding my horizons
just in life
but I don't
I would like to think
I wouldn't get mad at like
damn look at the fucking look where
fucking phases out right now
and then come back and act like
so hostile towards them
when they weren't
I can't say they weren't there
because I truly don't know
and I'm sort of speaking on something
I'm just speaking to give my
opinion from like an outside
source. I don't have some fucking top
secret intel
or fucking anything. But I'm just like
I'm a fan looking at this like
everyone else. And we haven't
everyone, it looked like everyone's sort of
done
stuff independently.
And it had nothing to do with phase.
I think Adapt would make some videos
randomly here. There's not a...
Blaz did his rap shit. Banks did
whatever Banks is doing.
I see him do some like NFT,
crypto something temper
boxing and
doing whatever he does
it just seemed like everyone went in their
uh
their separate way turned into basically
Mr. Beast they weren't sitting
there like
making stuff together sort of
but you
fucking Raj
Hex Seth
yeah like you guys they were they weren't
sitting there like coming together trying
always you guys are all
trying to think about like optic in the brand and pushing it forward and even people like me
even though we're on a lesser scale well way lesser scale individually as far as like cloud
and shit like that but we've been in the circle besides like the one year i disappeared to mutineers
because there was no fucking optic yeah because it got sold out but that you know that was our time
of like what the fuck's happening into this brand but it's like you see how fast it like quickly got
turn around
or not
I don't know how
wouldn't say quickly
but it got turned around
because you guys
were fighting for it
immediately to get turn around
and it just doesn't seem
like the phase
that's just not what
it's not what happened with phase
and those motherfuckers got money
it'll be interesting
I'm not
I don't know what they're paying
like nuke squad and shit
but like
I feel like
you can't be mad
it like like nuke squad came in and like it seems like they're doing their thing
they're helping the brand i feel like nuke squad held it down yeah new like came in and
held it down if there is no nuke squad who is doing all these deliverables like who is doing all
the shit that phase needs in order to keep running yeah like these videos and so i feel like
you can't like stream sponsor because none of the o g stream anymore and i don't know if they're
putting ads on jev's videos or rugs videos
So like the nuke squad, like, like, new squad and like, uh, I don't even know if Nick Merks is doing, is doing that either.
But like that new wave of that's, that's how corporate people think is like the fan, the sort of like family vibe from like the New York house.
So that wasn't.
It's like where even with Optic, we all still live not together, but in the same.
Yeah.
area
fucking Texas
or Friscoe and Dallas
we come to the same office
like even
I'll like stream from here
and we see each other
every now and then
and we'll hang out
and we're still
we maintained
this
I mean
we've just maintained
this like
sort of closeness
that I feel like
um
that they
that they just didn't
and even though the fans are like the biggest OG phase fans,
I see Santana's point.
I also see...
Well, I see it too.
Because I don't think Santana watched the OG.
Maybe he did, I don't know.
But I don't think he watched the OG guys.
Because if he did, he wouldn't have said that.
And what he said was, I don't think we ever said what he said.
He said like, it's, today's a good day, W and, you know,
especially for women and gaming W for phase.
and he's a part of face
and someone said
I see nothing wrong with that
and then someone said
so you're going against what the OGs said
and then he said
where are they at now
which is kind of like a dig at them
being like yo we're we've been doing this
what have they been doing
but like you can't fucking say that
you can't say that to the seven people
who made the brand
who built it
who built it to a point
where it had any value at all
especially if you face
Santana.
Like you're not
you're not like
scump.
You didn't take over
the fucking game.
Right.
Yeah.
Like you're doing your thing.
You're on phase.
You're not the Nate Hill.
You're not the Nickmarks.
You're not the counter strike team.
So you can't.
But that's it.
I mean,
that's just how Santana is.
Yeah.
But.
And Doug,
Doug winning on Santana too.
Really?
Yeah,
because.
I mean,
it is true.
He's literally,
no offense,
but like literally riding
on what they built.
And it's like kind of like how I'm littered, littered in through the years I've done my thing
with certain stuff on a fucking lesser scale than like the phase guys.
But like I've rode the wave of scump and aid shot and hacks.
And it's just like that's how it goes.
But like, it's not a bad thing.
I'll never, I'll never open my mouth about that.
Exactly.
Even if I'm like.
Exactly.
Even if they disappeared.
and then later down the line
we're like complaining what optic is starting into
I would just I'd be like
I don't know yeah I don't really got nothing to say to that
yeah I mean that's I mean that kind of happened
like whenever we were in Infinite and at one point
remember when Mike went like he started working in the office
for a little bit he was like working for GGA
and like training people and shit like that
and I remember the CEO coming up to me
and was like er we had a meeting with the CEO at the time who like was really really disliked me
because of you know I was very vocal about how I didn't like anything that was going on and he
was like I just don't understand why you can't you can't do what Mike is doing Mike is putting in
effort and I'm like you've turned Mike into a fucking corporate man he's showing up here at 9 a.m.
And like working on workout routines.
I also don't think Mike mind it.
Well, Mike eventually a week later was like, yo, I hate this.
I hate showing up at 9 a.m.
and not being able to leave and going on a lunch break and like completely, there's
nothing wrong with that, but completely one-80ing his entire lifestyle for the past four
years.
And I'm like, you're taking like a content creator, a creator, somebody who helped build
optic to this point.
And now you're putting him in a, you're putting him in the bullpen next to Roger?
You know what I mean?
Like, like, it's just.
and if he would have been like
like imagine a world where Mike in that situation
it's just like yeah like what hex did is
what hex is in scump did is fucked up like they're not working anymore
like if he just completely went with them it would be super fucking weird
which is kind of this situation where it's like somebody's kind of
like you you you kind of got to
pay respects to what the brand is
because what the brand is in the first place.
Very few people can completely...
As kids.
Completely 180 a brand and make it something completely different and have it still succeed.
Yeah.
Like, unless you're like George Foreman.
Wait, are you talking about the new phase?
Yeah, like still making it.
New phase is completely different than old phase.
I feel like the new phase is still definitely...
I mean, maybe that's just how it goes.
though, like,
you're gonna find the Nick Merks
and the swags and these new people.
And even though it's like a new phase,
like they're,
that's just who's popping now.
But that's not phase.
It doesn't matter who is popping.
That's something that like,
over the past couple months.
It's not phase,
but like,
are these other guys supposed to be
fucking trick-shotting and shit together?
No,
they're supposed to be making content together.
But if they're,
they're millionaires, I can't, I'm not going to lie.
If I had their money, I don't know what I would do either.
Here's a question.
How many of the sidemen do you think are millionaires out of the seven of them?
Seven.
They still make content with each other every week.
It's because if you have a product that works, you have to maintain that.
I just don't.
That has to be strong.
Yeah.
Like if Mr. B.
Stop making videos and were like started making Instagram reels instead.
I'm like that was his thing.
Everything else,
all of his other businesses are falling,
falling off because his main thing isn't,
isn't going to,
is it like isn't propelling forward,
which is why like,
whenever I,
you know,
started becoming like creative director or whatever,
and I'm talking to Hector and I'm like,
you know,
like we need to go after someone big.
Like immediately I was like,
I want to pick up Philza.
Like this,
you know,
he's crushing it.
He's a fucking Minecrafter.
You know,
he's big,
he also loves the Rocket League and all this shit.
and and then I realize that like he's not going to move here and like the the more you like think
about just big names and just big numbers does it necessarily mean that it's going to move the
product of what made what has made optic optic forward yeah like we would like if we picked up
someone that has been like I feel like we could go for someone huge like a excuse
you see.
But or also we could pick up Kenny Bounce again.
Yeah.
And Kenny's going to make more sense.
Because he was at least a part of the optic culture at one point.
You know what I mean?
And what Hector says is like you got to move the sitcom forward.
Right.
Because you got to view this as like not really a reality show, but more of like, you know, some people, some people watch Optic for Hector's vlog.
Some people watch Optic for Scumps watch party or, you know.
Or a fucking, you know, a maniac.
A maniac cool.
A maniac cool.
Like, maniac booming.
Yeah.
Like, they got someone from the hood.
Like, I fuck.
And that's where I'm going.
So I fuck's a niac.
But, like, to see us all together,
that's also something dope.
That is awesome.
And that is,
that is what makes Optic beautiful is the fact that we can all come together and we
can do stuff in so many different avenues.
But, like, so just thinking numbers and just thinking something big isn't always,
going to propel that forward.
I completely agree and see what you're saying with like people,
Optica has such a strong fan base.
Because I don't think there's not another org that's like,
as fucking stupid as it sounds sometimes,
that's like this like close family sort of like hang out with,
like I could hang out with you, Bose,
go get food like any time.
Exactly.
time of the day.
And we're always down to what are we going to shoot this week?
What are we going to shoot next week?
Whatever.
And those are the moments.
And that's like that's what has attracted people for so long because it's like it's been,
I've been here since 2015 and it seems like it's always, even though there was like a rough patch for like a year or two,
they got recovered quickly because this is just what optic needs.
It's just what it is.
It's what it is.
It's what we are.
Like that's what Faze was,
but it's like they sort of
Yeah.
Sort of just went and did their own thing.
There's just very few orgs out there that can do that.
I mean,
Thieves does it and can do it.
And Faze did it and we did it.
But other,
other orgs,
it seems like they put all their money
into the fucking e-sports basket.
And the thing, when you do that,
if you have the,
who's the,
I mean, if you have the best Counterstrike team in the world in 2016,
I don't even remember who that is, I guess, Astralis.
But, like, you could put any logo on that team and nothing changes.
Yeah.
You put any logo on that team and nothing changes because it's just a really good fucking team.
Yeah.
But you couldn't put any logo on the Optic Dynasty team,
and it's the same feeling because the reason that they have.
so many fucking fans is because
Seth was uploading twice a day.
Formal was streaming and formal was uploading
and Damon, you know, is
on fucking smooth competition
and running around and like living
together. Big ball soccer and
yeah. And
Crim Six is in Vision interviews and
all that shit
and the same thing, you can do the same thing with the
Black House 2 team. Fucking
you know, Nate Schott's doing the
Mike just took
four bites, no bullshit. Like all
that makes
it's like it's like you're watching
it's like you're watching in a weird way it's like you're
watching your buddy compete on stage
whereas if you're just watching a regular
e-sports guy or e-sports team you're just
like that's a really good player and I like
watching that player but that can only
get you so far in an org
setting in my opinion so
it's just
it's a it's a sticky
situation and I and I
do think going back to the face thing that
neither one of them are in
the right. Because I also think it was really fucking, I think it was really sketchy that
Faze tweeted, we need more women in gaming. And then Rain replied to that and said, you know,
spoiler alert, it's grace. And then they announced great. And then everyone like, you know,
was like, no way they're signing grace. Grace isn't like that's when it started. And then they announced
grace the next day. And it's like, you know, it's like, you know, was like, no way they're signing grace. And it's like,
if you had already signed a woman,
why would you tweet,
we need more women in gaming?
Or we need more women in phase.
Like, you had already done it.
Don't.
I mean, just a little hype, like.
Yeah, but don't.
Yeah, that's true.
You should just.
Oh, are they doing something?
But imagine how many,
pick up a girl.
Imagine how many women see that.
And they're just like,
oh my God,
they're looking for women.
I want to, you know,
here's all my room on the year
that I'm getting so excited.
And it's just like,
well, sorry.
I know we got you guys excited,
but like we had already signed.
the girl, you know, from Stranger Things.
And it's like, well, I've been sniping for 10 years trying to get in a phase.
But like Stranger Things Girl.
And so then, you know, that's a bad look on them.
But also you shouldn't.
It's just a fucking sticky situation.
I also see Phase getting.
Like I said, I'm not on either side.
But if the Ochi's came back, they could do some fucking, they would do numbers.
if they really, at any point,
they have clout that I will probably never have.
And they have pool that I will never have.
They have money.
Hopefully, maybe one day I'll have.
But if they just decided,
yo, we're going to come here.
I don't know what they're going to have to do.
And maybe this is the issue that they say there's someone in the office,
that they're just like,
I am doing absolutely nothing to push this brand forward.
until this motherfucker's gone.
Maybe that's the case.
But if they just all agreed to show up two or three times a week
and maybe go do some bigger video of fucking going to cholera,
I don't know, if they just agreed, like, let's do this every so often,
those motherfuckers would, I think it would do really, really well.
Well, I think people would have, I would love seeing them together again.
So it's like they can, at any moment,
they could turn this around,
but it's way bigger than that,
and I know there's more to it than that,
and I know they don't,
they probably don't want to turn this shit around
and receive nothing for it.
Like, whether that's,
I don't know if, like,
because I've heard Tico say,
like, they all have shares of the company.
So I'm guessing, like, pushing the brand forward more
would just like, it's gonna,
it gives you more money in that way anyway.
I guess.
But it's like,
probably see it like we can we could come we know we could all come back start doing
videos together and we'd figure this shit out and they would fucking pop and they would make face
the most talked about e-sports org by far again but that's compared to how much that's going to
make this motherfucker look good and we don't want this motherfucker look that's going to make
the people that have taken over and we hate how they where they have brought the brand
it's going to
they're going to feel like
they're like saving them
and they don't want to save them.
I think they just want some motherfuckers gone
and unless that's going to happen,
they're not going to do their shit.
I'm going to guess.
But I do see,
I think phase could do it.
Phase could.
I mean, they could get a show.
Like the way that David Dobrick
got like that discovery show
where he just like toured the world
and like did shit with his friends
from,
YouTube. Like, imagine
selling, I mean, someone
who would sell a show. Like, I don't want to...
MTV or something.
I gotta get my cloud up, but I just
don't... I don't, like, I don't
know. I'm just not addicted.
I've been living in, like, the real
world lately, but I want... The point is,
I want to, I want to...
Like, if they did a show like that, it'd be crazy.
Right.
I'm in, I'm in, like, a mix
of, like, do I want
to, like, everything I do
do to be on camera? Like, I would
kind of want like some kind of business or like something because everything i've done since
2015 to get any money is being being on camera and it's just like god it's like this really me
and fucking but i want to i was thinking like after doing the 60 day shit i was like i kind of
enjoyed like having a goal to of like sort of waking up every day and it's like something to think
about it just sort of like stimulated me a little a little bit it like made me feel more productive
and it just interested me and i kind of want to i kind of wanted to sit down with like roger or
something and see if we can figure out if i could do some sort of something i don't know what
it'd be maybe like trained for a marathon i don't i just don't know if it'd be that
interesting like i don't know if people would be i don't know if it'd be worth it to
You definitely have a lot of momentum right now with the fitness shit.
So if you want to think businesses, you just start thinking fitness stuff.
Yeah.
Like the fucking...
But I...
The workout plan we were talking about.
Or also like...
But I also, I feel I have the biggest imposter syndrome to where like...
I feel like I know not just as much as every fucking personal trainer.
I probably know more than some personal trainers.
and I do, I know what you need to do, but, and I know how to work out.
I know how to, like, not injure yourself.
I could easily, like, teach a noob.
But I feel like I don't look the part.
I don't have, I don't have abs.
I don't have a degree or fucking whatever.
So it's like, I just feel super corny making shit like that.
or like I don't I would feel so yeah something would just weird me out about say I did a say I made a
website online program sign up here I'll help you like every day I'm texting email and figuring out
giving you something to do giving you advice and I'm like communicating with online clients and
even then I'm like dude if I saw someone that looked like me and they were doing that which I do see I'll see
personal trainers at the gym that look like shit
and I'm just like dude how I'd like I'd be
pissed if you're like you can't view yourself
as a personal trainer you have to view yourself as
maniac yeah
like you don't have like I think I have imposter
syndrome like I like don't
I mean I get that I don't know if I am
I get that at one point
in the scuff house I wasn't then why would I say
I am and on Twitter
IG every day I am
Would you say you are just the way I am
Superststime no I in the scuff house I'm
I almost sold...
M&M song.
I almost sold camera straps.
Really?
And I was like,
I'm not good at cameras.
Yeah,
the other podcasts
where you're explaining
like you know nothing
about cameras?
The fucking Mac Craig.
Yeah, I would...
So point being,
or what I was getting to,
I would like to do something like that
of like some kind of...
I just don't know if it'd be
worth
to like I'd look
I'd look at it like
damn would this even be worth
the optic to like
have a whole
like whole crew
of like a camera
production team
helping me out
trying to
um
really depends
trying to brainstorm
of how we're gonna do this
maniac training for a marathon
Austin Cox just went
it would
like it would work
maybe not the whole team
but you can
you can have awesome.
I mean like the
they fucking just talk like
about everything together
I think like so it'd be
not necessarily be a team of four fucking
camera people going out with me
but it's like I walk in here
and then we're like brainstorming ideas
or you know they come up with ideas
and I sort of realized that with my 60 day shit
we're like I would sit there
and
towards the end of the weeks
like he was like yo
like let me know if you want me to come down this week and I'm just sitting there like
dude I don't even know like I can't I'm not that creative to the point where like I'm willing
to do I'm willing to like drive somewhere to get do a take a shot here picks here work out here
or something but like I don't know like creatively it's just like I kind of you tell me what the
fucking do then I feel like it would be easier having like a whole
brainstorming production crew
who has fucking infinite resources
to just we could make
something whether it's
maniac trains for a marathon
maniac does this maniac does that
or I travel somewhere
or something
but I'd be willing to do that
I want to talk to
and you want to do it for optic or for your personal
channel I mean I'd love to put it on my channel
but they're not going to do that
Like they're not going to have it depends.
It really depends.
If the sales team sells it,
like imagine it was a Jim Shark sponsor.
Yeah.
And it was really big.
And then the company got a percentage of it.
If they said you could put it on your channel because like I have the older I'm getting,
it's like I need to build something for me.
Hot dog.
So it's just like.
I completely understood.
So it's like I don't know how like.
It just hit me like a brick.
Like like my streams could die out.
fucking any optic could just slow down a little and like I'd just not be popping at all like
you know and then it's like then what yeah like I don't have fucking oh I've dedicated my entire
life to the first six years of my adult life to like optic and then since I'm sort of just
like TST and so like since turning 30 like I'm like you know I'm gonna do I'm gonna do me for a for
the first time of my life.
Yeah.
I'm not going to give up on the other things, but like I'm going to put some priority on
myself this year.
That's about literally this is the first year to where I'm like, all right, I need to figure
this out.
I've been doing everything just sort of like nonchalant.
Chelantly and it's like optics growing.
And it's like I'm still just kind of like maniac in optic.
And it's like what's fucking next?
So it's like if they'd be down to put it on my channel, I'd 100% do it.
What we're going to do?
I do want to do a marathon by the end of the, by the end.
end of the year could do something where like I trained for a month and attempt a marathon you know
the girl um then fucking whatever ideas they they have i'd be down fucking go live in
iceland in the snow for a fucking yeah three day i don't i don't know i mean you could dude you can
do challenge videos off of anything but i think you can do the rocks workout routine for two to two
for a week straight.
Yeah.
Or,
you know,
I trained,
I did help,
imagine doing hell week.
I did hell week with,
with a seal.
Or,
you know,
you could do with,
when it comes to fitness,
like,
you could,
I could think of like
five things off the top of my head.
Yeah.
They're going to be fucking hard.
Fitness or it's like,
I don't know if I want to do the,
who's the dude who used to like travel all the time and then he died.
Uh,
he's super famous.
People thought he was like cool as fuck.
It's smoke cigs.
drink beer.
I can't fucking...
I think he's on, like, Netflix or something.
He was like the...
Alex something?
I don't know.
Alex...
It was like Steve Irwin.
Or...
There's no way I'm fucking...
I don't know.
But something like that.
Like, he, like, traveled
and just, like, explored the world.
I mean, I wouldn't be doing that.
But I'd be, like,
traveling for a specific reason.
Whatever they'd be down to come up with,
um...
I'd be down to do.
Yeah.
I had a nightmare last night
because I,
I'm starting to get in the process of,
of, um,
who is that fucking traveler?
I'm starting to get in the process of planning out the next offseason event.
And I forgot like how,
how much of my mental capacity it takes to,
to plan an event like that.
Anthony Bourdain.
Anthony Bourdain.
Anthony Bordane. I've never even heard of,
I think you told me about him.
That's the only time.
What?
Dude.
The comments better.
Roe Hitch.
I know everyone listening besides you knows Anthony Bourdain.
Okay.
You thought Oasis was a one-hit wonder in the same podcast.
So.
Roast him.
Yeah.
I just forgot.
I kind of forgot or it's been so long that I forgot how much of mental capacity it takes to
to organize an event like the offseason.
And I woke up.
because like there's all this stuff that I'm planning and I and I I I was dreaming that like the
offseason was like next next week and like all the all the plans that I had made like none of it
ever came to fruition and then I remember like I was on the mic and there was you know there was like
50 people there and I was like hey guys we just raised it was the end of day one I was like we just
raised three thousand dollars which is like 25,000
less than last year on day one.
And, you know, people were clapping.
And then I was like, I woke up and I was like, holy shit.
Really?
I thought, I like thought I, you actually had this dream.
100%.
And it kind of like, I, I woke up and I was like kind of happy because that like tank
that I go into, especially the offseason last year, I was like super unhealthily stressed
about it.
But it happened and it worked.
It went to the next off season.
I can't I
the date is not 100% locked
but it's in for Activision approval right now
and so that should get approved
hopefully tomorrow or the next day
and then working on announcement stuff so
nice I'm excited about that
I guess we can talk about the God team
dude the Lakers got swept
then the Cains got swept
then Optic got swept
and then ECU lost in the
conference championship
I think the heat we're up three
and now it's, I think, 3-3.
What?
I think going to game 7.
I could be wrong.
I mean, I haven't watched.
Because I'd just like scroll and I'll randomly see shit.
I'm like, damn, really?
And I think it could be the first, if they win 4-3, that'll be the first time in NBA history.
Someone's coming from a-
Are you serious?
Remember when LeBron was done?
Wait, is that happening tonight?
Is it 3-3 right now?
Maybe.
It might be happening tonight.
I don't know.
Holy shit.
But the COD team.
Yeah.
First off, I tweeted this and people were like kind of confused.
because I said Averill Levine
And for some reason that's just average
Avrolelele
And I think me and Royal 2 just haven't
Just used to say it like
Holy fuck I'm playing so Avril Levine
Or like what does stupid fucking slang
Yeah
But I tweeted like
Like my Averal Levine self
Because I was good at moments
I felt like I was one of the best
But like you can place me
Maniac showing up to a tournament
Top six
if his team's playing really well
they could get top three
and like that's about where I
I feel like I sat
but for these fucking elites
where I was like
it felt bad for me getting I tweeted
it felt bad for me getting top 12
when like I was just like
top six if I got top three
I was happy
I mean losing sucks regardless
but you know
win once every 10 years
you know so for these elite
fucks that are just absolutely nasty
the faces a call of duty
for them to get top 12
I can only imagine the
the pain
and the fucking annoyance man
It has to suck
It's so
It's just how call it dude
And they go of course
Of course
They go like 5 and 0
And I think that was the
Twice
They went 5-no twice
Really?
And wasn't that the first time
The last 10 matches
They didn't lose
In online play
And has any other team
Even went 5 and 0
Yeah
I think
I think
Faze went 5 and 0
once, but no one's ever done it twice.
I'm fairly positive.
Someone said, like, no one's ever done what they've done recently.
And then, of course, go to the event, 3-0 to first off, I turn the game on,
or I turn the match on, and I see they're playing mutineers.
And I'm like, all right, I got to go, go to the gym or something.
Like, this is, this is just the win that I don't give a fuck about.
Like, I'd look at the Florida roster, and I'm like, all right, I'm going to go to the gym.
So I assume they're just going to win
Next day Sabas
I go to the gym with
Say boss
We come back to my place
Because we're gonna go for a run
Where we go for a run
Come back
And then he's like
Oh shit the game's about to be on
I'm like oh shit really?
They play
And then turn it on
And they were like
He mentioned something about losing
I'm like huh
It was like yeah we lost yesterday
I'm like what?
I'm like what was the series
He was like 3-0.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Three-o.
So we're on losers right now?
He's like, yeah.
I was like, man, we're playing 100 Thieves?
He's like, yeah, I'm like, what the no?
I just, for some reason, hopefully none of them ever hear this, but I have a bad feeling
when we play thieves.
It's just, it seems like, is that a rival right now?
Yeah, well, those, I mean, those boys just, they try.
They seem like they turn up.
They're the best, the best version of 100 thieves is playing us, 100%.
Yeah.
100% especially Kenny
I don't know what that fool was on
when he plays us but he is disgusting
Yeah
Even though I think Sam was the one that I didn't watch
See the thing is I didn't watch it all this weekend
I didn't watch this first time
I watched the thieves match
After that I didn't give a fuck about CDL
I did watch a little bit of the finals
I watched New York play a little bit
Apparently phase choked finals
Guys
But that's how Call the Duty
They go to game seven
people are
overlooking the fact that
Call of Duty is just like this now
Yeah
It's no excuse
It's no excuse
Did you see the bracket
30 30 30 30 30
The it was
I'm telling you the chance
The probability of this happening
Is fucking insane
The amount of 3Os
Really?
There was probably like 10
What?
It was insane
I'm telling you like
Maybe you can like Google
And find the image
But it was fucking
insane how many
like literally it's just 30
30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 oh then
and losers bracket
30 30 30 30 oh and then maybe like
one three two and then 30 30
dude it was insane
cod is weird
dude okay
thieves wins
I think cod shit
thieves wins the last tournament
they won the last major
then they go into online play
and don't win us they went one and four
and start in losers bracket
and no i think this is the second year straight
that there hasn't been a repeat winner
okay so
uh
seattle wins the first one phase wins the second one
toronto wins the third one
uh la wins the fourth one and new york
one's a fifth one that's not a single repeat winner
yeah that's crazy and we come in second twice
and that happened in vanguard
too not a single repeat winner
in Vanguard except for champs
this game's weird and it's like
anything can
fucking happen in Cod
anything and in Halo you
know who's in top three you know
all three teams yeah
in Cod dude anything
could fucking happen yeah
and and so you have
to treat every single match like it's your
last series oh my man it's fucking
stupid I remember
I can't Doug
Doug Sensor Big Dog Mart
tweeted out something of like,
this online shit has to stop
of like,
how did thieves win the last major
and then they're starting in losers bracket
for the next one?
I mean,
but it's not,
like it makes no,
these online points are like eating way too much.
I don't think online is as crazy
as people make it out to be.
I really don't think it is.
How much of a difference it is?
I don't think it is.
I can tell you this.
Before fucking 28 years ago
in 2000,
10.
Yep.
We like we, I think 11 or 12-oed final boss online.
Easy.
Like, they get shit on.
We got fifth.
They won the event.
And this happened often.
Online's not as everyone has good internet now.
So I was going to say it's a lot different than it was.
And their servers now.
So it's definitely not as bad as what it used to be because it used to be crazy.
I'm telling you, like, the amount, I was, I literally made up, I mean, the fans made up Laniac as my, like, my, maniac, aka Laniac, because I show up on fucking land and you guys are fucking bad.
And I'm always losing a dog shit online.
I always had shit internet.
But it used to be a big deal.
Now I understand, or it used to be a big difference.
Like, it used to be super hard.
Now it feels, it's definitely not as bad.
but
cod's weird
I don't know if I can
really speak on it
because thieves wins
then they go one and four
but it's like
I don't think on
yeah it might
it might just be cod
there's definitely
I'm sure if any
cod pros
which none of them
are listening to this
but I'm sure they would agree
online is stupid
like loudness EQ changes shit
that's dumb
people play more comfortable
at home
shouts out the monster.
Like there's, even in Halo,
people play so good online
that like motherfuckers think they're cheating
because they go to the event
and then it's just like,
okay, here's the real him.
Yeah.
And it's like that happened in my career a lot.
Like people I would lose to all the time.
I would go to the event
and it's just boom 3-0.
They're like, boom, 3-1.
They got lucky and won the Slayer or something.
But I think that's always been a thing.
people
I can't say it's the internet
that's the issue or the ping
I think
I think a decent amount of it is like
The environment
You know you when you're in your room
And you take 90 MGs
You're in like your comfort zone
Like you don't have a fuck you don't have the lights
The crowd
The speakers
The earbuds
Your teammates beside you're just
You're just frying
You're just in the fucking zone
You don't have people
looking at your screen.
There's not as much pressure.
And some people really
perform better.
I know that.
And I'm sure it's a lot.
I'm sure a lot of cod kids do that.
I'm sure a lot of,
I'm sure cod pros would agree.
But so I think something
something with the online points
might have to change
the Cod's bad.
I think though.
That might be the reason.
That might be.
be number one. I love college duty and I love
the community but
even at events motherfuckers are placing random
people are putting way I mean
I hope the boys pick it up and there's
no excuse for going 0 and 6
it really isn't but
it's just how caught is
it's how caught is nowadays also it doesn't
matter fucking 0 and 6 or
they lost both 3 2 you still
fucking lose it doesn't
fucking matter still lost still got top 10 bad
weekend but have you seen
the champs bracket the champs
bracket, phase, thieves, and
Toronto are on one side of the bracket and we're
on the other. So we... Somehow
we still got a really good bracket.
I mean, we still got to be breach.
That's what we got first is Boston.
So we still got to beat them.
Nah, that'll be good.
But we got the fucking God,
God luck.
And what's crazy?
Fuck, it's so dumb, man.
Like, this literally getting top 12
and might have just, you don't
know. You just
never fucking know.
Are you going to Vegas or no?
I mean, I hadn't
Thought about it at all
Might randomly
It is champs
So if like
If we were to win and I wasn't there
I'd fucking rage
Yeah
If we placed
If we placed the average
I don't know
We'll see
I know it's coming up soon
But
Yeah
We'll see
Might see y'all there
Yeah
I think I'll be
I always do
the last year when we lost champs on that fucking Tuscan,
I, dude, I remember that being a turning point in my life
because I was like, I can't get this upset about shit like this anymore.
Like, it's not healthy.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, I'm fucking 29-year-old man getting like, like literally my,
we lost on Saturday, my Sunday was ruined.
Yeah.
Just ruined.
I was like, okay, I can't do this shit anymore.
There's a fuck ton of events coming up.
the Halo event this weekend.
I think scumps watch partying it.
The Halo event?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, he's doing it in at the event, right?
Yeah.
But I also don't know how, first off, page, I might be on it.
We'll see.
Page sent me the content schedule for this week.
You should be on it.
Well, page sent me the content schedule for this week and put me on it.
And I'm just like, well, thanks for asking.
Because I think you're, you get paid to be on it, though.
I don't know if you knew that.
I don't think so.
Or I think I asked
Paige, I was like, what a,
I'll explain.
Okay.
My watch, my hate,
first off,
I'm fucking Halo.
My,
I'm a Halo guy.
When I do my Halo watch parties,
they're the biggest streams.
They're my biggest streams.
Like,
I like need those.
Yeah.
Like those help.
Like it just gives that boost.
Every,
new people,
old people,
like people sort of would gather to my stream.
And it's just,
it's a huge help.
And I'm not fucking, and I'm not fucking rich.
So it's like I need, I need these opportunities.
Yeah.
And like I, the last Halo event was like during the Colorado trip and they made me skip it.
Like I really tried to get out of that.
Yeah.
And it was a fun trip and like they really needed me to go.
So I was just fucking took the hell, whatever.
And then this time I was like, okay, I'm a watch party this.
And then we find out Seth's watch party, which is like cool, good for him.
Like I know that's going to.
if I was to watch party it by myself
and then Seth's doing his obviously
it's fucking scump it's gonna be huge
and it's way more professional
but like I do my thing on my watch party
it's just like
think of it from my point of view
these are my best streams
and it's just like damn now
you guys just assumed
I'm like you're not gonna watch party
you're just gonna be on his watch party
and I'm gonna be the only Halo guy on his watch party
but you're gonna be able to watch
to stream it as well yeah
But that's, it's not the same.
That's not the same as interacting, being hype on a fucking sub train.
Oh my God, 50 fucking bond and talking to my chat, being crazy, being ignorant, being fucking, you know, just being ridiculous on my own little stream and like doing it my way.
But it's like, I just, I need streams like that.
And for me to just like completely give that up just to like be a part of someone else's stream, it's like kind of, it's kind of shitty.
but I understand
being on scump stream
is obviously
it's fucking scump
it's a big deal
it's not as big as
it's not gonna be
as big as they call it duty shit
it's not
he's not gonna have
fucking 60,000 plus viewers
so it's not
it wouldn't benefit me
as much as like
you know a cod stream
if I was
or being on his cod watch parties
if I was a cod player
but
I don't know you just kind of
kind of got a
not that I was annoyed
because it would be fun
And like, I should be on it because it's Halo.
And these motherfuckers, when they're watching the top 16 matches, what are they?
They don't know these players.
And like I do.
So it makes sense.
But it's just, I think everyone can see my point of view.
It's just like, damn, I'm supposed to give up my biggest streams, which like I kind of need and really want.
Like, I'm supposed to give up just like my biggest streams to be a part of it.
But maybe we can work something out.
It would be fun.
and I'd like to, I know they don't know
much, they know of Halo
in like some of the bigger teams,
but it's gonna be a long weekend
and for me to just give up like
eight hours each day, every day,
it's like, I don't know,
maybe we can figure something out.
Yeah, they definitely need you there.
Because I planned on doing it myself
and then she randomly sends me the content sheet
and I'm like, damn, well, fuck.
These are like my biggest streams.
I kind of like need these.
I'm sure you can talk to somebody
Yeah
See if we can figure something out
That'll be fun
Regardless
Yeah first Halo event
And fucking forever
That's gonna be fun
Yeah dream hack
It sucks because I'm gonna be in
I'm gonna be in Raleigh for that
Because the
Oh really
The Dallas United team plays
The team that Optic sponsoring
We did the crossbar challenge
Is X going?
I don't know
Hax has to choose
He'll probably stay here
Because I'm going there with
TST and I think
Sayboss might be going as well
So that's going to be fun.
But it's back, I mean, it's my hometowns in North Carolina.
All right.
Well, we got some things coming up.
I guess it's going to do it for the Flycast episode 700.
I forget.
So many.
Thank you guys so much for watching.
I tried to, I may try to chug some caffeine for this one.
Last one I was so fucking tired.
It's kind of giving it, it kind of gave me anxiety.
Really?
I didn't even notice until you told me afterwards.
Maybe it's just in my brain.
I'm like, dude, my brain twerking.
I felt tired.
I felt tired during this one.
I don't know if I was...
Yeah, I don't know.
It was fucking me.
That would you guys enjoy the episode.
Until next time, Matt Craig.
Play that outro music.
