The Flycast - New FaZe vs Old FaZe... Who's In The Wrong | The Flycast Ep. 78

Episode Date: June 4, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What are you watching, man? Reliving the good old days. I'm so in love with your honey. Everything that makes me feel right. I'm so in love with the honey. Do you know what song he's saying? You never heard that song? I think I have heard that.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Is that what you were just playing? Yeah, well, it's a song. I think it's called Danny's song. Danny's song. It's by like Kenny Loggins or whatever from like way back in the day. But I just saw the Red Hot Chili Peppers in concert. And at one point during the show, what? Was that a bucket listener?
Starting point is 00:00:54 I saw you were fucking hype. I was so hype. And at one point in the song, like the lead guitarist, like everyone leaves, but he just goes on stage and just plays him and his guitar and just sings that song. And it's such a feel good song. And then it's just back to give it away. Give it like just like back to like. Back to like fucking funky shit.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Is your girl into that as well? Or why do you? Did you go to, you went to Houston just for that concert? Yeah, so, well, what had happened was whenever, whenever I was a, like, first getting into guitar. It's not really no red hot chili peppers. You don't? Whatever you just said, I'm just like, yeah. But it's like.
Starting point is 00:01:34 That wasn't a red hot. That wasn't a red hot show. That's like a really old song. But he just did a cover of it. Well, whenever you said he got on stage, you playing these. guitar and you're like smiling and shit i'm like i have no idea about anything you're saying um so back in the day like when i first started getting into guitar like i just you start figuring out your favorite guitarist so like jimmy hendricks and and like smoke on the water he did that smoke on the
Starting point is 00:02:01 water smoke that's the first i got i got a guitar when i was like 11 or something that's the first song everyone deep purple deep purple yeah I had their album. You had the Deep Purple album? I like was, even back then I was fake. Like just trying to get into new music and shit. I'm like 10.
Starting point is 00:02:22 So I'm, so I like, especially Stevie Ray Vaughan and like bluesy stuff. I like love bluesy stuff. And then I found this, uh, I think there's a few friends of mine that really started that liked the chili peppers. And I like,
Starting point is 00:02:41 I like, rock rock albums that have guitar solos like guitar is a big part of it because there's a lot of people out there that just like it's just it's just like they do a song and they sing and there's no guitar solo or there's no drum solo and I'm just kind of like eh it's feel like it's missing something but then the chili peppers the first time I had like watched them live like on the tv is this is like before YouTube I was watching them on Google video that's how far back this was yeah there's not it's not in Google video is not even a thing anymore but I watched their like entire live at slang castle like uh it was like the only time they like broadcasted it or like to that like
Starting point is 00:03:24 with that quality and just like how good he was at guitar I was like obsessed with it so I was like I'm eventually going to see them in concert and this is I'm like and then 20 years later and middle school well then the guitarist that I like though the glue that brought the whole I love the whole band but my favorite guitarist is him. He left the band when I was in early college, which is when I first am able to like have freedom to go
Starting point is 00:03:50 to stuff. And he didn't come back until last year. So he was gone for like 10 years. What's crazy? Is these? Like when did they start? They have been and they're still touring. Like 91. Dude that's so. It was
Starting point is 00:04:06 packed. I can't. It was really? I was like. Because I can't if I like feel bad like if I'm still doing this I mean it depends not really doing this but if like
Starting point is 00:04:21 damn there's not really a way I can like I because I was I know exactly same for me I know exactly but it's like you see say some fucking like you see A Sob Rock doing shows You're like too still like there ain't yeah
Starting point is 00:04:37 You know you know he's gonna be so pissed at that but like I don't know I don't know it's just crazy that they like tour for that see that's what doing the same song I was like kind of thinking that
Starting point is 00:04:51 and then I saw how many people were there and I was like you can't hate on that yeah there are there were like 30,000 people there like it might be different for that genre even when I see I saw like usher or like you know
Starting point is 00:05:08 people like B2K or fucking like these random like groups will be doing shows and it's just like not doesn't look popping like that. I don't kind of makes me, but I feel like something like red hot chili peppers and like groups rock and shit, they're way more like timeless. For sure. I don't think our generation has bands like that. Maybe if like, maybe if Taylor Swift stop making music, Katie Perry stop making music and then they go on a reunion tour like, okay. I mean, because like, I mean, that being said, I never went to any of the Backstreet Boys, like, reunion tour. So I don't know how there could have been. And they're still, they still do shit.
Starting point is 00:05:48 They still tour, yeah. So there could be 20,000 people at those shows. They're just like out of shape. Yeah. I just don't know how I feel about that. The chili pepper were not out of shit. Flea's still up there, shirtless at 65 or however old he is. Damn.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Just fucking. He did a handstand across the stage. He was wearing a skirt, a purple. skirt and he did a handstand and his skirt came down and he's wearing black tidy witties and he's just 60 or something every time i hear of like like someone epic like that and i just know their life their life has just been epic and then it's yeah and it just like makes me think of like fuck man like i mean i have a pretty i need to bring myself back to reality i have a pretty like epic life I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:36 But not really in the reality. From the outside, like, no, I don't actually. Like, but it's good. And it is, maybe I'm just used to it. I don't know where I stand in fucking reality, like, at this point. Because I do, I've gotten to travel all the time. But then I, like, look at their fucking life. And it's just like the amount of cities they've gone to, the crowds they get to play in front of.
Starting point is 00:07:05 The fucking the groupies, the drugs, the alcohol. Well, it's like the older bands, they don't even do, like, they don't do shit like that anymore. I wonder how their life, like, they just live some regular ass life. Most of them do. And then they get on stage and everyone's like, yeah, like worshiping them and shit. Dude, it was crazy because they tour with a band called The Strokes, I think. I never heard of them.
Starting point is 00:07:31 But the strokes go on stage and Alexis and I are walking around, like, getting drinks. and stuff. And like people are fucked up. No. Because it was so hot. It was in Houston. So it was like, outside.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It was in the, the Astro Stadium. So it was like a, it can be outside, but, you know, but they closed the top. So it was just hot.
Starting point is 00:07:55 So I was like, I don't want to drink too much. Like, I want to enjoy this. I'm waiting fucking 20 years to see these guys. Because, because they had just gotten back together like two years ago. So they just,
Starting point is 00:08:04 this is their first tour. back together. And so I never thought I would be able to see them together. So it was kind of like a treat more than anything because, you know, when your favorite band,
Starting point is 00:08:14 like people who want to watch Oasis Live, like I... Wonder War? Yeah, they hate each other. Like, they broke up here. From my understanding, unless something has changed,
Starting point is 00:08:24 but last I heard, they like hate each other. So you're never going to see Oasis live. But if they had a reunion tour and if they went on fucking tour, I need to look it up because I could be spewing on my ass. right now, but,
Starting point is 00:08:37 but if they went on tour, like, they were selling out, like, they had, like, Woodstock level people. Oasis? Oasis? And, in, uh, didn't they just have Wonderwall? Or am I,
Starting point is 00:08:49 see, I don't, I don't listen. Wonderwall was on my MySpace, like, top. How many songs they let you have? Was it 10? I think you could just make a playlist, right?
Starting point is 00:08:59 But I think when you clicked on someone's profile, like, there was, like, a list of songs on the left. Maybe it was the whole playlist. Maybe it was like 10. But I remember Wonderwall being one of my songs, but I didn't know they were like popping like that. Damn, who would I want to see?
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah, I was wondering. I wish, um, Eminem for sure, like in the slim, shady days. Yeah, he'll never tour again. I think I was going to say something, but it might be ridiculous. Like, is anyone more like epic than him? But like, there's a lot of fucking. There's a lot of epic people. Yeah, there's a lot of epic people.
Starting point is 00:09:35 But like seeing him back in like, like 2000 or something like that. Mob deep, Prodigy passed away. Mob Deep with havoc and Prodigy would have been, even like these days, I'd still be down to see them. I think they still tour, right?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Prodigy's dead. Well, I know, but I'm saying, didn't they grab some, or who am I thinking of? Maybe. Maybe I'm thinking of Wu-Tang and ODB's son wraps his verses. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I'm thinking of something. I don't think Mobbdi, I don't think Moabee doesn't do that. Okay. Who did Hector's going? Hector saw someone, one of those old, I get those groups mixed up. They're not all the same.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Bone thugs? I think he saw, he saw them like a couple years ago. Dude, X is fucking hilarious. He's not in fact. Imagine Hax. I don't know who he went with to the show, but like imagining him
Starting point is 00:10:34 at like a bone thugs concert. It's bone and big, big. Like, just imagine him and fucking Mario. Like, Hex tries to act cool, but, like, I just can't see him. Hex only fanboys for a few people. And Riz is the only one that I've ever, like. Like, if we could go to a random show and we would act more, like, we might get drunk or something. And we would just, like, have fun and, like, act goofy sort of.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Like, I can't imagine Hex, like, standing in the crowd. Just like. Did you, uh, did you ever take? You took your flip phone there? Yeah. Did you take your other real phone to actually get quality videos? Alexis Scott. Alexis got a lot of good stuff on her phone.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Why are you using that again? I thought it was for like a week. It is, but I don't think I've gotten enough in a week, so I'm going to do it for like a few more days. Can you say the point of what you do? Yeah, I mean, I used a flip phone for a week. That's the point. What's been the biggest difference?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Not being able to Google things. damn that that actually how often is that does that happen you don't you don't realize how often it happens so no twitter if i'm saying like i'll like text alexis or i'll text alice and just be like what is this like can you google this and then they'll send me the answer yeah so you have it have you not touched your other phone no i mean i mean i like check instagram or something have i seen you on instagram no i'll like check my email at night before i go to bed i'm not going to put that in the video. I'm going to be a fake hashtag fake YouTuber. Well, why don't you just use your laptop? You know? Just use your laptop for the email. Well, I also check my like I message just to see
Starting point is 00:12:21 if somebody sent me something important. Yeah. But I, I, it's been crazy, bro, like, like, like, texting on this is like, here, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull you up. Yeah, don't you have to hit it three times. No, you do teen. Did you ever text with T9? That's crazy. how I somehow remember the term T9, but no, I don't really remember what it does. So like, yeah, oh shit. So like text yourself. Why is Paige fucking texting me? Should I call her on the podcast?
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah, call it on the flip phone. Should I? Yeah. Wait, is there a speaker on it? Yeah, it's called hands free. It's not called speaker. Wait, I'm gonna say, I mean, what do I? You're, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I don't know how to do it. That's so funny you don't remember T9. I don't know if you ever... Did you ever have like a flip phone with texting? Or did you go straight to the... I think I had...
Starting point is 00:13:24 I think I went from a track phone which is just like one big block. I remember that. And then I think I went from the track phone to a sidekick. A sidekick. Where you flip it?
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yeah, I had a sidekick. I can't remember if I had a flip... Yeah, I can't. I can't remember if I had a flip phone. Yeah. See, I never had a... I had a flip phone, but I didn't have texting. Like, I had a razor, but I wasn't allowed to text. But I...
Starting point is 00:13:50 I just got a new phone. Oh, you did? Yeah. For content. Matt Craig, get to the lab. We got to figure this out. I guess I don't know if I told you about this. No, I've never talked about.
Starting point is 00:14:03 We... So I bought a bicycle. And I've talked about this. I bought a bicycle. We bought Matt Craig, like, sent me. like, go buy this and then brought it here. He hooked it all up. Like the backpack?
Starting point is 00:14:15 Huh? Like a router backpack type? No, it's not. It's just two phones. So it's just two phones with like, but we set up like a mic, the Mofi's. Oh wow. The like bar that extends. So I put my phone on there and I can like ride.
Starting point is 00:14:31 The plan is riding my bicycle like around Dallas. That's fucking cool. Just doing like IRL streams like that. But also with like two phones, I could like say I go to the pool, set up. a tripod and like see it on my or go to the gym or i'll just be able to like stream better iRL content but the whole bicycle thing like so there's a i don't know what you'd call it like a mike arm sticking out for my bicycle everyone just fucking stares at it but like i put my phone down and like the streets are just so like bumpy bumpy that it just goes like this and i like tried
Starting point is 00:15:07 recording a video. And it's just, I don't know how we're going to figure it out. It's not really, everything's fine except that. We just got to figure out like the stabilization. But I don't know. That'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Yeah, looking to do something different besides, I'm probably played Little Halo this week because there is the Halo event. I guess Dreamhack or whatever coming up. So I'll probably play some Halo this week. But I don't know, man. I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:15:37 just kind of like over it. But I like need and want something to do. And like I have in this in my head, like I'll go to pool parties and just like have fun. But it's like also it's like, am I going to be drinking all this time? And I don't want my life to because I'm trying to be on my like health shit as well. And I don't want my life turning into like other IRA streamers to where they're like,
Starting point is 00:16:07 Kind of just getting fucked up all the time. How was the girls in the video? How's the video coming? The 60 day video. I don't know. I'm waiting on him to, he better be clutching. Lando better be fucking clutching.
Starting point is 00:16:19 It's been, how long has it been? I feel like a week and a half, maybe two weeks. I need to text him today and see where that's, where that is. I'm not really in too much of, because it doesn't necessarily,
Starting point is 00:16:33 I mean, it can't be too long of a wait. but try not to rush it we'll see i think he's gonna come over he'll come over one day this week show me it but yeah hopefully we can figure this shit out it's like a relatively like i'm honestly like it stresses me out like i look back and i'm like man i could have like like what i was envisioning at first into like i was i'm gonna come out shredded but it's just like, dude, I did it for two months.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And I did it for two months. Loss will say almost like 15 pounds, which is like really good. And then, but I just, apparently, I just, you can't just magically get fucking shredded. I'm totally not.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Dude, it's so hard, man. And then like, I was even, I was even thinking like, maybe I can cheat the system. And like, while he's at, editing it, I still continue this diet and working out every day. And I'm, I put in, in the past
Starting point is 00:17:40 week, I've ran almost like 25 miles. Yeah. I've worked out every single day. But I've had chicken chicken, like, I'm talking like, I have my, I have my regular day. I have like a protein shake. I'll have something like a Chipotle label or Kava. I don't know if you've had Kava. And then I'll still be pretty full, but I'm like, damn, I need to eat like one more time. Definitely need some protein in me. So I'll order two spicy chicken sandwiches, a large fry, mac and cheese, go to the gas station, like three rice Krispies, a pack of donuts. And it's just like, and then I'll be like, but tomorrow I'm going to wake up and run 10 miles.
Starting point is 00:18:25 So it's like, it almost cancels this out. You're mine. Even though it doesn't, even though it does not fucking cancel it out. And then, like, last night, what did I eat? I pegged out. Actually, the day... So that was, like, Friday night. Saturday night, I ordered...
Starting point is 00:18:44 And these are all, like, my first three days, like, done from the... Or my first, like, few days done from the video. Saturday, I think I had a regular day of eating. Then it got it to nighttime. And I'm, like, I'm a little hungry. So I ordered Pizza Hut. I ate, like, ordered pizza. I ordered a large pepperoni pizza.
Starting point is 00:19:03 pizza. God, that sounds so funny. Oh, damn, you can't. That sounds so fun.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Dude, it was so good. The large pepperoni pizza, like 18 boneless wings. Oh. And a big,
Starting point is 00:19:17 in a dessert cookie, which is like one of the big ones in like, in like the box. Yeah. Had seven slices
Starting point is 00:19:24 of pizza, probably like 10 wings, and I ate the entire cookie. That was probably like 4,000 calories. And then next day, I woke up, I ran like four miles.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And I just think it's like, I'm canceling this out, but it's not even close. Then I'm like, oh, miles is like 700 calories. And then after the pizza, like when you're full, you're like, all right, I'm done. Like when I wake up tomorrow, groceries, fucking. Then like tomorrow comes around. I do, I'd work out. I lift weights.
Starting point is 00:19:55 I run. It's like four or five p.m. I haven't even ate yet. And then I think, what was it? Yesterday. What did I eat? I don't know. It's like two large rice Krispies, a kava, like Chipotle sort of bowl.
Starting point is 00:20:11 What else that? Cheba Hut. Have you had Chewit? I don't know. It's like a Dallas thing. But it's like a large sub. Then I had like 10 pretzel mini bites. And it's just, it's actually insane how much I can eat.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And like probably what I've done in the past three days, it was like ruined the past like month. I mean, so my plan on like being like while he edits, I'm just gonna lean down a little bit and we'll get like a better after shot. Because it's not that it's, I try to make a point that it wasn't,
Starting point is 00:20:50 I wanted a crazy transformation. But the point wasn't about the crazy transformation. The point was, oh, I don't feel like going to the gym. I'm not going to the gym. Or like I can't, I can't, could never stick to a diet or just like a diet of like not necessarily being in a caloric
Starting point is 00:21:08 deficit but a diet of just like eating clean could never stick to it i'll always uh yeah do some cheat day or fucking something but so i want the point to be about just sticking to a goal and actually doing it which we achieved it had its ups and downs i really think it's like it's weird i think I think how much food affected. Like, I definitely felt stress and shit. But the better I ate, for some reason, I just, like, had more peace. Things that would, like, truly, and I've noticed it since I've stopped eating that way. The past, like, three days just goes, oh, the challenge is over.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I'm going to start, like, binge eating. Yeah. I feel like the past, like, three or four days, I'm just, like, a little more, like, groggy. And I just stressed and over. How's your sleep, Ben? I'm thinking. My sleep is never good. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah. It's weird, you say that? Because I feel like two days ago I woke up and my sleep was just so bad. And I was like randomly thinking like, I'm my ass hitching on the fly guys. Like, how is his sleep? My sleep is so shit all the time. I wake up 100 times. I wake up sweaty.
Starting point is 00:22:26 If I go on like, because with this whole like vegan thing like, it doesn't mean you're eating good like I've said that a hundred times but like if if I if I have like going vegan will not save it won't and also if you go vegan just because you went vegan does it mean
Starting point is 00:22:44 like the people who like really go vegan like they're like the people with the annoying ass I'm a vegan shirts and he's with me he's a vegan shirt do you guys hear that
Starting point is 00:22:59 did the vegan community hear that you guys are fucking annoying they are i didn't say it hitched said that but i support the people who do the people who like live that lifestyle we were like oh my god those people they eat they eat veggies and that's it like they eat veggies and avocado yeah and tofu but they're like they're like health they're health kicks like like i've i've just want to experiment i'm doing this year thing because i just want to experiment to see what it's like It's fucking weird. And I'm almost six months in, but four months of that has been like, okay, like I'm pounding
Starting point is 00:23:38 chips and salsa. I'm pounding, you know, avocado, like guacamole and chips and coke. You did lose weight, though. Yeah, no, I definitely lost weight. You got under 200. Yeah. But that's also, I'm, I'm doing this running thing too. So the combination of both of them.
Starting point is 00:23:56 But you can, but so every once in a while, like yesterday I had like a, like a, like a, like a right like a power bowl and it had like a bunch of you know from like 54th street and it had like an impossible patty on top as the meat and like it just it didn't really feel that great to eat like it was it was good but it didn't feel that great to eat like I'm sure there's a bunch of shit in there but like days where I'm like I'm really just like rice beans avocado salads uh you know water real food. Like I'm eating real, like a lot of fruits and stuff. You're eating food.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Like those, when I go on like a four or five day kick of that, like, dude, the sleep that I get is so good. Really? And that's what I've always, I've always heard. Whenever I, like, talking, like, before I started this, I was, like, talking to a few, like, people that I knew at least went vegan at one point or are still vegan. And I'm like, is, like, please don't bullshit me. Like, am I going to see anything? signs of happiness from this. And they're like, uh,
Starting point is 00:25:01 you will get the best sleep. Like sleep is like the best thing. And I do notice it. It's, it is kind of crazy. Yeah. Sleep has never been. Sleep has always been bad for me.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Even like, I will just lay in bed and put your phone down. That does absolutely nothing. Even in like, bro, my parents would make me do that in like middle school. of like turn the TV off and it's like 10 p.m. I just lay there until 2 a.m.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And it's just, I don't know. I feel like that's definitely something I need to step up in my life. Or figure out. Like I've tried like pills fucking like talked at a doctor and they try to. Melatonin. shit. Melatonin gives me nightmares. Yeah. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Sleep's fucking. Sleep's always been a struggle for me. You know what? I want. Have you seen the, this is a little switch up. You see the, what's her name?
Starting point is 00:26:02 Fuck. Grace and face rain. Dude. And it's funny. I saw in face Santana. Just got cooked. Dude. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I should fucking pull up some shit. But I saw, I saw like one of his tweets. He tweeted about like, this is the best like shaver I've ever used. And I was like, let me see the replies to this. And I saw,
Starting point is 00:26:27 because I saw like 90. And I was expecting to click it and just see him getting fucking verbaled. But he wasn't. But this whole phase, did you see Raines reply to... His video on the Nick Merck's situation? Where he goes through all of the fucking finances of phase.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Wait, the Nick Merck's? Yeah, so how this all started was, well, rain's kind of been going at the, Faze Corporation for a while but he said something like
Starting point is 00:27:00 you know like none of our none of the OGs are getting paid and Nick Merk's getting paid a million dollars a year and he's never been in the Faze video
Starting point is 00:27:08 and he doesn't do anything with Faze and a lot of people were like damn rain salty like he's pocket watching other men and shit like that which like there's an aspect to it I don't the thing
Starting point is 00:27:21 the thing with the phase OGs and this is the mistake that we made or that I made specifically because we went through a very similar situation if you're gonna get upset with the corporation of phase it will always be better to not name drop
Starting point is 00:27:40 it always will be because then people will compare Yeah but they're just real Rain don't give a fuck Yeah but it comes across so poor in my opinion now because there's been a bunch of shit that phase is done that from the outside looking in i'm like
Starting point is 00:28:00 what the fuck are they doing yeah i've seen some collabs where i'm just they pick up a a amateur valerant team that is they're paying fucking 300 000 a month for and it's like from the outside looking in why are you doing that and then they're also they also pick up a i should have joined phase. They also pick up a women's valerent team that they're probably paying 100 grand a month for. And so that's like why, and they're not making any content with any of the teams. They're not promoting them. They're not, you know, collaborating with them.
Starting point is 00:28:36 They're not using them in content. They're doing nothing with the teams except throwing money at the wall. And I guess hoping they qualify four years down the line. I don't know. And so like, I see that go. I see that from my perspective. And I'm like, that doesn't sound like. at all like what the fuck is that and you know they they there's a and that happens not just in
Starting point is 00:28:59 Val that happened in everything like the I think one of the only cool things that phase is done that is like you know I'm a little biased but I love what they've done with the flank I think they gave they gave the the the but also I can see the return on the flank if if phases sales team sells off of the flank as a podcast then there's at least some sort of return there And that's kind of like how I've been thinking. But like if you don't say anything about all those, all that situation. Like all and there's tons of examples of things like that. But then the second they hire a girl, everyone bashes them for all their decisions.
Starting point is 00:29:42 It's kind of like, bro, what? People might not just even know. Why wouldn't you? First off, she has, I don't want to say a big mouth, but she doesn't help her case. I haven't. She is horrible at arguing. Or like, she's horrible at like, I feel like getting people on her side.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Because I almost wanted to be like, like to rain like, dude, like, why are you like, why are you coming at her? Like, she's just a girl that wanted to get signed. But like, she's kind of like, I don't know the word, but she's not the best at defending herself.
Starting point is 00:30:20 almost digging almost like kind of digging a hole. Really? And then did you see she like, first off, I'll play this. We need a I need a goddamn Matt Craig. Nothing you can do. We just don't have a TV, a setup, and shit for them to hear.
Starting point is 00:30:41 We need like an optic podcast set up so I can like, I'm just going to play this in the mic. Okay, play it on the mic. Have you heard that? You're fucking wrecked. I just can't compete with that. Man, I can't. She rose to me. It's over. Grace, I'm sorry. All I want to say is your golden valour. It makes stranger things your entire personality, even though you're all on one episode. You found out about Twitch through Tumblr.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Not only have you not hit a trick shot, but you don't even know what the fuck that is. When you were still playing with Barbies, I made my first million out of this industry. And on top of it, you're excruciatingly made who I would never let touch me on my drunken night. It's fucking right. See, like that, that rain doesn't, but. Come on. I don't know why Rain said that. Come on.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I don't know. I don't know exactly why he said that. I can't imagine her saying anything that could provoke that. Yeah, there's no way. First off, wow, he... If he went that in on her... I did laugh. He should have...
Starting point is 00:31:39 I mean, that's because rain is just... Yeah. That's just because it's rain. He kind of did destroy her a little bit right there. But then her response to this, if I could find it... I don't know if this is going to be... if this is her exact response, but this is just the next video I saw.
Starting point is 00:31:57 One that's just hired a female creator to help bring in that energy of the space, so I don't really am. I, in response to him using me as a poster child, I just said, get fucking wrecked. And he didn't like that. I don't know how well you'll be able to hear this, but this is his response.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Oh, wait, fuck, that's not that. That's her response to hearing what I just said, but it's just sort of saying like, damn. Like that sucks. No, there was something she responded with, basically she said a response of
Starting point is 00:32:40 something about him ODing on stream. Damn. Yeah. I can't, I can't read that. Oh, okay. She poked at his mental health and drug problems. I want to find it,
Starting point is 00:32:55 that sounds really bad. Jesus. For one, phase on a new. Oh. he says that I don't even know what a trick shot is you're right I don't and I know that that's kind of what you're known for
Starting point is 00:33:11 but I know you reign as the person who almost overdosed on a live stream dude it sounds like she's like but like why even say that you're better now and then she like kind of says like I know you're better now I'm really proud of you for that her mom was a drug addict and like I don't know what's
Starting point is 00:33:31 she basically said her mom never recovered and her mom's like not doing better but like she's proud of him for but it's like that was just weird like why what that was just like very kind of random and like weird to bring up so wow it's not like what a what a situation she's just like she digs it deeper not that like rain is in the right versus like just going off on this fucking girl who just joined space and he's just saying like
Starting point is 00:34:10 and then he's saying like also he said like also you're super mid and I wouldn't touch you on my drunkest night but it's like these little fucking jabs of just like no one gives a fuck about anything anymore like there's just no
Starting point is 00:34:27 and I know rain doesn't give a fuck then I've met rain I like rain I'm proud of how he's doing now. Yeah. And obviously one of the OGs fucking those guys took over.
Starting point is 00:34:43 They were the gaming. Yeah. Not e-sports, but they like they were the gaming. People are just coming into east-fucking people. Gaming now like the the 2011 to 2017 run
Starting point is 00:34:57 that those guys had is insane. Like it's not. Yeah. They were the people. That was the first wave of it all. Like they were doing it over here. Simon was doing it over there. And like other than that, that was pretty much it. Yeah. So I don't, I'm not, I'm not on anyone's side.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Truthfully, I don't. See, I, I have one regret. I have a regret from the infinite days. Someone, at one point, without telling anyone, they signed a creator. And his name was Luke the Notable. Do you remember this? Yeah. And, and I remember being like,
Starting point is 00:35:34 like who the fuck is Luke denotable and I was so pissed because of the decisions that they made that I got I got super like upset and and I I know I took that out on him and I didn't mean to yeah how'd you take it out on him I mean I just ignored him I didn't talk to him he was in the office a few times and it wasn't on purpose but I just knew if I went up to him and said like hey man like I knew it would come across as fake because it was fake because I was pissed and I was hurt and I was angry all the time. And fast forward a few years later, I start randomly watching his content
Starting point is 00:36:18 and it's fucking incredible. It is incredible. He literally changed YouTube's meta. He invented 100 days that has eventually turned into 100 hours, which is eventually turned in. I spent 24 hours. and I did this, that, that, that is him. It all comes from him.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And so as I'm watching his content and I'm, you know, this is where this is way after infinite. I realized like, you know, that there are so many, there were multiple instances of that where somebody would get hired, you know, the, there would be, we'd have randomly have an Optic India counterstrike team or an Optic Mexico, Gears of War team. Shouts out I wonder how that cheater's done Yeah I wonder how he's done
Starting point is 00:37:08 He's probably like a crypto billionaire He's living in Dubai But like there are so many situations Where they made decisions That I didn't like And I let that affect My thoughts on the people that they hired When it's not their fault at all
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah And you were the first pays rain Hell yeah You should have fucking verbal Luke now I eventually apologize to him because I was just like bro I got there was a lot nerd your videos are stupid
Starting point is 00:37:41 there's a lot going on and I'm really sorry if you because I don't know if he ever felt the animosity or if he ever felt like we were a big click but we were we lived together for six or for four yeah we were definitely but like you know whenever all that's happening
Starting point is 00:37:57 like I just I apologize to him and and I never got around to apologizing to other people that it affected because there was other creators that infinite sign that we had no part of. Sheila. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I mean, see, Sheila. I feel like that was good. Sheila was really good. I think Sheila should come back. Valerant? She'd have to move here, though. I don't think she'd do that. She's probably, is she still on Immortals?
Starting point is 00:38:24 I don't know. I don't know what she's doing now. But yeah, like, it, I think, I don't know. I mean, I'm a lot of a different. person than some of these guys, but I think they're going to realize how fucked up this grace situation is in a couple years down the line.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Because, like, it's not her fault. She got an opportunity that everyone in gaming dreams of. She just, yeah. And it's not like she, like... I don't know her numbers or, like, viewers or... Her numbers are pretty good.
Starting point is 00:38:58 I'm sure they're good now. Yeah. But, like, before she joined phase, I just don't know. She was playing with Brooke and Valgaray. And she was playing with all of them. So she's in that group. And I'm sure Faye's tried to sign Nadia. I'm sure Faze has tried to sign like other big women creators.
Starting point is 00:39:16 But their price point is probably extremely high. And so Grace is somebody that makes sense is in gaming, might propel the brand forward. I'm thinking from a corporate mindset has good numbers, is relatively family friendly. you know, aside from this... Appeared on... Was on Stranger Things. Is an actress. You know, all this.
Starting point is 00:39:39 So they're like, yeah, let's go with her. And then thinking that like, we've signed Nuke Squad. We've signed all these different esports teams. We've signed Nick Merck's. We've signed a, you know, a bunch of Fortnite creators.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And the OGs have said nothing. Yeah. Like, you might get a little like a jab here and there. But they have said nothing. And, then now all of the sudden because it's the girl off of strangers things they go fucking bananas
Starting point is 00:40:07 and I don't know why specifically they went or I don't know if I should even say they all I know is I know rain with the girl what's her fucking grace grace rain with the girl that's about all I know and then Banks with
Starting point is 00:40:23 Santana who Santana Tweetina has a he has a he has a Tennessee for it He has a tendency to open his mouth. He does. He does.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I don't know. I mean, I like him. I know of him. Yeah, I've seen him like on camera a few times. And I don't know. He's the one that seems like someone I get along. He's the one that tweeted if Nick Merck's really does get a war zone skin, I'm going to have words with Activision. I was like.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah. Yeah. They're going to be like, oh God. Yeah. That's Santana. That's kind of funny. That's kind of funny, though. But what did?
Starting point is 00:41:00 I, fuck. I wish I had my fucking research. What did Santana tweet to, he deleted everything, he tweeted something about like, he tweeted something like the, like all, it seems like all the OG phase guys are like,
Starting point is 00:41:14 like the Tico the rain, Banks got into it with Santana, they're like complaining about where phase is. And I, I'm gonna be honest, I see both sides. Like, I can't say I'm 100% on like team OG.
Starting point is 00:41:30 phase or like even like support i i'm i support them in a way it was like yes phase has gone off on like a weirder direction yeah but it's 2023 i haven't we haven't seen ogy phase i don't think i've seen them at an event since 2016 yeah i think the last time i saw them all together was that xbox 360 collab and they did like one video together where they like talked about the 360 days and i think that was in like 2020, 2019. I don't know, like,
Starting point is 00:42:03 I'm sure some, like, sketchy stuff has happened like behind the scenes. Banks is saying his fucking shares were stolen from him. His board chairs? But apparently, yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:13 but apparently, like, they all have shares. They, like, it seemed pretty, seem like they, I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:22 obviously, they built the thing themselves. So, of course, they like, they all have a part of the company. There comes a point where the, are these fucking
Starting point is 00:42:31 hundreds of dollars millionaires want a part of something the bigger money comes in so of course it's like
Starting point is 00:42:39 they sort of give other people more control and then I'm assuming they got fucking something out of it then I'm also assuming
Starting point is 00:42:50 they got to a point where it's like we're not living in the same house anymore we got our we have fucking money we don't really
Starting point is 00:43:00 need to do this. We live in L.A. fucking Sin City. I'm sure they were enjoying their lives and not you know, they weren't there trying to, they weren't there internally building, building the company in 2017, 18, 19, 19, 20, 21, 22. Yeah. So it's like, I can't, it's hard
Starting point is 00:43:24 to say, first off, I don't know. I could be completely wrong. They could have been there behind the scenes the entire time like really trying to work something out saying they don't agree I'm sure they got into the beef and then they disappear for a year but I'm gonna I feel like I'm gonna assume they
Starting point is 00:43:41 were just out living their life which if I was them I would probably be doing the same thing if I was in LA I'd be doing the same thing I'd be going to parties getting into fucking NFTs and the cryptos and the figuring out some other merch and other ways
Starting point is 00:43:58 of making money and like expanding not necessarily expanding my brand but just like expanding my horizons just in life but I don't I would like to think I wouldn't get mad at like
Starting point is 00:44:11 damn look at the fucking look where fucking phases out right now and then come back and act like so hostile towards them when they weren't I can't say they weren't there because I truly don't know and I'm sort of speaking on something
Starting point is 00:44:30 I'm just speaking to give my opinion from like an outside source. I don't have some fucking top secret intel or fucking anything. But I'm just like I'm a fan looking at this like everyone else. And we haven't everyone, it looked like everyone's sort of
Starting point is 00:44:46 done stuff independently. And it had nothing to do with phase. I think Adapt would make some videos randomly here. There's not a... Blaz did his rap shit. Banks did whatever Banks is doing. I see him do some like NFT,
Starting point is 00:45:01 crypto something temper boxing and doing whatever he does it just seemed like everyone went in their uh their separate way turned into basically Mr. Beast they weren't sitting there like
Starting point is 00:45:17 making stuff together sort of but you fucking Raj Hex Seth yeah like you guys they were they weren't sitting there like coming together trying always you guys are all trying to think about like optic in the brand and pushing it forward and even people like me
Starting point is 00:45:37 even though we're on a lesser scale well way lesser scale individually as far as like cloud and shit like that but we've been in the circle besides like the one year i disappeared to mutineers because there was no fucking optic yeah because it got sold out but that you know that was our time of like what the fuck's happening into this brand but it's like you see how fast it like quickly got turn around or not I don't know how wouldn't say quickly
Starting point is 00:46:05 but it got turned around because you guys were fighting for it immediately to get turn around and it just doesn't seem like the phase that's just not what it's not what happened with phase
Starting point is 00:46:19 and those motherfuckers got money it'll be interesting I'm not I don't know what they're paying like nuke squad and shit but like I feel like you can't be mad
Starting point is 00:46:31 it like like nuke squad came in and like it seems like they're doing their thing they're helping the brand i feel like nuke squad held it down yeah new like came in and held it down if there is no nuke squad who is doing all these deliverables like who is doing all the shit that phase needs in order to keep running yeah like these videos and so i feel like you can't like stream sponsor because none of the o g stream anymore and i don't know if they're putting ads on jev's videos or rugs videos So like the nuke squad, like, like, new squad and like, uh, I don't even know if Nick Merks is doing, is doing that either. But like that new wave of that's, that's how corporate people think is like the fan, the sort of like family vibe from like the New York house.
Starting point is 00:47:20 So that wasn't. It's like where even with Optic, we all still live not together, but in the same. Yeah. area fucking Texas or Friscoe and Dallas we come to the same office like even
Starting point is 00:47:38 I'll like stream from here and we see each other every now and then and we'll hang out and we're still we maintained this I mean
Starting point is 00:47:51 we've just maintained this like sort of closeness that I feel like um that they that they just didn't and even though the fans are like the biggest OG phase fans,
Starting point is 00:48:05 I see Santana's point. I also see... Well, I see it too. Because I don't think Santana watched the OG. Maybe he did, I don't know. But I don't think he watched the OG guys. Because if he did, he wouldn't have said that. And what he said was, I don't think we ever said what he said.
Starting point is 00:48:22 He said like, it's, today's a good day, W and, you know, especially for women and gaming W for phase. and he's a part of face and someone said I see nothing wrong with that and then someone said so you're going against what the OGs said and then he said
Starting point is 00:48:40 where are they at now which is kind of like a dig at them being like yo we're we've been doing this what have they been doing but like you can't fucking say that you can't say that to the seven people who made the brand who built it
Starting point is 00:48:55 who built it to a point where it had any value at all especially if you face Santana. Like you're not you're not like scump. You didn't take over
Starting point is 00:49:05 the fucking game. Right. Yeah. Like you're doing your thing. You're on phase. You're not the Nate Hill. You're not the Nickmarks. You're not the counter strike team.
Starting point is 00:49:14 So you can't. But that's it. I mean, that's just how Santana is. Yeah. But. And Doug, Doug winning on Santana too.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Really? Yeah, because. I mean, it is true. He's literally, no offense, but like literally riding
Starting point is 00:49:32 on what they built. And it's like kind of like how I'm littered, littered in through the years I've done my thing with certain stuff on a fucking lesser scale than like the phase guys. But like I've rode the wave of scump and aid shot and hacks. And it's just like that's how it goes. But like, it's not a bad thing. I'll never, I'll never open my mouth about that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Even if I'm like. Exactly. Even if they disappeared. and then later down the line we're like complaining what optic is starting into I would just I'd be like I don't know yeah I don't really got nothing to say to that yeah I mean that's I mean that kind of happened
Starting point is 00:50:14 like whenever we were in Infinite and at one point remember when Mike went like he started working in the office for a little bit he was like working for GGA and like training people and shit like that and I remember the CEO coming up to me and was like er we had a meeting with the CEO at the time who like was really really disliked me because of you know I was very vocal about how I didn't like anything that was going on and he was like I just don't understand why you can't you can't do what Mike is doing Mike is putting in
Starting point is 00:50:45 effort and I'm like you've turned Mike into a fucking corporate man he's showing up here at 9 a.m. And like working on workout routines. I also don't think Mike mind it. Well, Mike eventually a week later was like, yo, I hate this. I hate showing up at 9 a.m. and not being able to leave and going on a lunch break and like completely, there's nothing wrong with that, but completely one-80ing his entire lifestyle for the past four years.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And I'm like, you're taking like a content creator, a creator, somebody who helped build optic to this point. And now you're putting him in a, you're putting him in the bullpen next to Roger? You know what I mean? Like, like, it's just. and if he would have been like like imagine a world where Mike in that situation it's just like yeah like what hex did is
Starting point is 00:51:37 what hex is in scump did is fucked up like they're not working anymore like if he just completely went with them it would be super fucking weird which is kind of this situation where it's like somebody's kind of like you you you kind of got to pay respects to what the brand is because what the brand is in the first place. Very few people can completely... As kids.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Completely 180 a brand and make it something completely different and have it still succeed. Yeah. Like, unless you're like George Foreman. Wait, are you talking about the new phase? Yeah, like still making it. New phase is completely different than old phase. I feel like the new phase is still definitely... I mean, maybe that's just how it goes.
Starting point is 00:52:26 though, like, you're gonna find the Nick Merks and the swags and these new people. And even though it's like a new phase, like they're, that's just who's popping now. But that's not phase. It doesn't matter who is popping.
Starting point is 00:52:45 That's something that like, over the past couple months. It's not phase, but like, are these other guys supposed to be fucking trick-shotting and shit together? No, they're supposed to be making content together.
Starting point is 00:52:55 But if they're, they're millionaires, I can't, I'm not going to lie. If I had their money, I don't know what I would do either. Here's a question. How many of the sidemen do you think are millionaires out of the seven of them? Seven. They still make content with each other every week. It's because if you have a product that works, you have to maintain that.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I just don't. That has to be strong. Yeah. Like if Mr. B. Stop making videos and were like started making Instagram reels instead. I'm like that was his thing. Everything else, all of his other businesses are falling,
Starting point is 00:53:32 falling off because his main thing isn't, isn't going to, is it like isn't propelling forward, which is why like, whenever I, you know, started becoming like creative director or whatever, and I'm talking to Hector and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:53:46 you know, like we need to go after someone big. Like immediately I was like, I want to pick up Philza. Like this, you know, he's crushing it. He's a fucking Minecrafter.
Starting point is 00:53:54 You know, he's big, he also loves the Rocket League and all this shit. and and then I realize that like he's not going to move here and like the the more you like think about just big names and just big numbers does it necessarily mean that it's going to move the product of what made what has made optic optic forward yeah like we would like if we picked up someone that has been like I feel like we could go for someone huge like a excuse you see.
Starting point is 00:54:28 But or also we could pick up Kenny Bounce again. Yeah. And Kenny's going to make more sense. Because he was at least a part of the optic culture at one point. You know what I mean? And what Hector says is like you got to move the sitcom forward. Right. Because you got to view this as like not really a reality show, but more of like, you know, some people, some people watch Optic for Hector's vlog.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Some people watch Optic for Scumps watch party or, you know. Or a fucking, you know, a maniac. A maniac cool. A maniac cool. Like, maniac booming. Yeah. Like, they got someone from the hood. Like, I fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:06 And that's where I'm going. So I fuck's a niac. But, like, to see us all together, that's also something dope. That is awesome. And that is, that is what makes Optic beautiful is the fact that we can all come together and we can do stuff in so many different avenues.
Starting point is 00:55:21 But, like, so just thinking numbers and just thinking something big isn't always, going to propel that forward. I completely agree and see what you're saying with like people, Optica has such a strong fan base. Because I don't think there's not another org that's like, as fucking stupid as it sounds sometimes, that's like this like close family sort of like hang out with, like I could hang out with you, Bose,
Starting point is 00:55:52 go get food like any time. Exactly. time of the day. And we're always down to what are we going to shoot this week? What are we going to shoot next week? Whatever. And those are the moments. And that's like that's what has attracted people for so long because it's like it's been,
Starting point is 00:56:10 I've been here since 2015 and it seems like it's always, even though there was like a rough patch for like a year or two, they got recovered quickly because this is just what optic needs. It's just what it is. It's what it is. It's what we are. Like that's what Faze was, but it's like they sort of Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Sort of just went and did their own thing. There's just very few orgs out there that can do that. I mean, Thieves does it and can do it. And Faze did it and we did it. But other, other orgs, it seems like they put all their money
Starting point is 00:56:50 into the fucking e-sports basket. And the thing, when you do that, if you have the, who's the, I mean, if you have the best Counterstrike team in the world in 2016, I don't even remember who that is, I guess, Astralis. But, like, you could put any logo on that team and nothing changes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:11 You put any logo on that team and nothing changes because it's just a really good fucking team. Yeah. But you couldn't put any logo on the Optic Dynasty team, and it's the same feeling because the reason that they have. so many fucking fans is because Seth was uploading twice a day. Formal was streaming and formal was uploading and Damon, you know, is
Starting point is 00:57:34 on fucking smooth competition and running around and like living together. Big ball soccer and yeah. And Crim Six is in Vision interviews and all that shit and the same thing, you can do the same thing with the Black House 2 team. Fucking
Starting point is 00:57:49 you know, Nate Schott's doing the Mike just took four bites, no bullshit. Like all that makes it's like it's like you're watching it's like you're watching in a weird way it's like you're watching your buddy compete on stage whereas if you're just watching a regular
Starting point is 00:58:06 e-sports guy or e-sports team you're just like that's a really good player and I like watching that player but that can only get you so far in an org setting in my opinion so it's just it's a it's a sticky situation and I and I
Starting point is 00:58:21 do think going back to the face thing that neither one of them are in the right. Because I also think it was really fucking, I think it was really sketchy that Faze tweeted, we need more women in gaming. And then Rain replied to that and said, you know, spoiler alert, it's grace. And then they announced great. And then everyone like, you know, was like, no way they're signing grace. Grace isn't like that's when it started. And then they announced grace the next day. And it's like, you know, it's like, you know, was like, no way they're signing grace. And it's like, if you had already signed a woman,
Starting point is 00:58:58 why would you tweet, we need more women in gaming? Or we need more women in phase. Like, you had already done it. Don't. I mean, just a little hype, like. Yeah, but don't. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:59:09 You should just. Oh, are they doing something? But imagine how many, pick up a girl. Imagine how many women see that. And they're just like, oh my God, they're looking for women.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I want to, you know, here's all my room on the year that I'm getting so excited. And it's just like, well, sorry. I know we got you guys excited, but like we had already signed. the girl, you know, from Stranger Things.
Starting point is 00:59:29 And it's like, well, I've been sniping for 10 years trying to get in a phase. But like Stranger Things Girl. And so then, you know, that's a bad look on them. But also you shouldn't. It's just a fucking sticky situation. I also see Phase getting. Like I said, I'm not on either side. But if the Ochi's came back, they could do some fucking, they would do numbers.
Starting point is 00:59:56 if they really, at any point, they have clout that I will probably never have. And they have pool that I will never have. They have money. Hopefully, maybe one day I'll have. But if they just decided, yo, we're going to come here. I don't know what they're going to have to do.
Starting point is 01:00:16 And maybe this is the issue that they say there's someone in the office, that they're just like, I am doing absolutely nothing to push this brand forward. until this motherfucker's gone. Maybe that's the case. But if they just all agreed to show up two or three times a week and maybe go do some bigger video of fucking going to cholera, I don't know, if they just agreed, like, let's do this every so often,
Starting point is 01:00:46 those motherfuckers would, I think it would do really, really well. Well, I think people would have, I would love seeing them together again. So it's like they can, at any moment, they could turn this around, but it's way bigger than that, and I know there's more to it than that, and I know they don't, they probably don't want to turn this shit around
Starting point is 01:01:09 and receive nothing for it. Like, whether that's, I don't know if, like, because I've heard Tico say, like, they all have shares of the company. So I'm guessing, like, pushing the brand forward more would just like, it's gonna, it gives you more money in that way anyway.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I guess. But it's like, probably see it like we can we could come we know we could all come back start doing videos together and we'd figure this shit out and they would fucking pop and they would make face the most talked about e-sports org by far again but that's compared to how much that's going to make this motherfucker look good and we don't want this motherfucker look that's going to make the people that have taken over and we hate how they where they have brought the brand it's going to
Starting point is 01:01:59 they're going to feel like they're like saving them and they don't want to save them. I think they just want some motherfuckers gone and unless that's going to happen, they're not going to do their shit. I'm going to guess. But I do see,
Starting point is 01:02:15 I think phase could do it. Phase could. I mean, they could get a show. Like the way that David Dobrick got like that discovery show where he just like toured the world and like did shit with his friends from,
Starting point is 01:02:27 YouTube. Like, imagine selling, I mean, someone who would sell a show. Like, I don't want to... MTV or something. I gotta get my cloud up, but I just don't... I don't, like, I don't know. I'm just not addicted. I've been living in, like, the real
Starting point is 01:02:43 world lately, but I want... The point is, I want to, I want to... Like, if they did a show like that, it'd be crazy. Right. I'm in, I'm in, like, a mix of, like, do I want to, like, everything I do do to be on camera? Like, I would
Starting point is 01:02:59 kind of want like some kind of business or like something because everything i've done since 2015 to get any money is being being on camera and it's just like god it's like this really me and fucking but i want to i was thinking like after doing the 60 day shit i was like i kind of enjoyed like having a goal to of like sort of waking up every day and it's like something to think about it just sort of like stimulated me a little a little bit it like made me feel more productive and it just interested me and i kind of want to i kind of wanted to sit down with like roger or something and see if we can figure out if i could do some sort of something i don't know what it'd be maybe like trained for a marathon i don't i just don't know if it'd be that
Starting point is 01:03:53 interesting like i don't know if people would be i don't know if it'd be worth it to You definitely have a lot of momentum right now with the fitness shit. So if you want to think businesses, you just start thinking fitness stuff. Yeah. Like the fucking... But I... The workout plan we were talking about. Or also like...
Starting point is 01:04:12 But I also, I feel I have the biggest imposter syndrome to where like... I feel like I know not just as much as every fucking personal trainer. I probably know more than some personal trainers. and I do, I know what you need to do, but, and I know how to work out. I know how to, like, not injure yourself. I could easily, like, teach a noob. But I feel like I don't look the part. I don't have, I don't have abs.
Starting point is 01:04:44 I don't have a degree or fucking whatever. So it's like, I just feel super corny making shit like that. or like I don't I would feel so yeah something would just weird me out about say I did a say I made a website online program sign up here I'll help you like every day I'm texting email and figuring out giving you something to do giving you advice and I'm like communicating with online clients and even then I'm like dude if I saw someone that looked like me and they were doing that which I do see I'll see personal trainers at the gym that look like shit and I'm just like dude how I'd like I'd be
Starting point is 01:05:31 pissed if you're like you can't view yourself as a personal trainer you have to view yourself as maniac yeah like you don't have like I think I have imposter syndrome like I like don't I mean I get that I don't know if I am I get that at one point in the scuff house I wasn't then why would I say
Starting point is 01:05:47 I am and on Twitter IG every day I am Would you say you are just the way I am Superststime no I in the scuff house I'm I almost sold... M&M song. I almost sold camera straps. Really?
Starting point is 01:06:03 And I was like, I'm not good at cameras. Yeah, the other podcasts where you're explaining like you know nothing about cameras? The fucking Mac Craig.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Yeah, I would... So point being, or what I was getting to, I would like to do something like that of like some kind of... I just don't know if it'd be worth to like I'd look
Starting point is 01:06:30 I'd look at it like damn would this even be worth the optic to like have a whole like whole crew of like a camera production team helping me out
Starting point is 01:06:41 trying to um really depends trying to brainstorm of how we're gonna do this maniac training for a marathon Austin Cox just went it would
Starting point is 01:06:53 like it would work maybe not the whole team but you can you can have awesome. I mean like the they fucking just talk like about everything together I think like so it'd be
Starting point is 01:07:03 not necessarily be a team of four fucking camera people going out with me but it's like I walk in here and then we're like brainstorming ideas or you know they come up with ideas and I sort of realized that with my 60 day shit we're like I would sit there and
Starting point is 01:07:21 towards the end of the weeks like he was like yo like let me know if you want me to come down this week and I'm just sitting there like dude I don't even know like I can't I'm not that creative to the point where like I'm willing to do I'm willing to like drive somewhere to get do a take a shot here picks here work out here or something but like I don't know like creatively it's just like I kind of you tell me what the fucking do then I feel like it would be easier having like a whole brainstorming production crew
Starting point is 01:07:58 who has fucking infinite resources to just we could make something whether it's maniac trains for a marathon maniac does this maniac does that or I travel somewhere or something but I'd be willing to do that
Starting point is 01:08:17 I want to talk to and you want to do it for optic or for your personal channel I mean I'd love to put it on my channel but they're not going to do that Like they're not going to have it depends. It really depends. If the sales team sells it, like imagine it was a Jim Shark sponsor.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Yeah. And it was really big. And then the company got a percentage of it. If they said you could put it on your channel because like I have the older I'm getting, it's like I need to build something for me. Hot dog. So it's just like. I completely understood.
Starting point is 01:08:47 So it's like I don't know how like. It just hit me like a brick. Like like my streams could die out. fucking any optic could just slow down a little and like I'd just not be popping at all like you know and then it's like then what yeah like I don't have fucking oh I've dedicated my entire life to the first six years of my adult life to like optic and then since I'm sort of just like TST and so like since turning 30 like I'm like you know I'm gonna do I'm gonna do me for a for the first time of my life.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Yeah. I'm not going to give up on the other things, but like I'm going to put some priority on myself this year. That's about literally this is the first year to where I'm like, all right, I need to figure this out. I've been doing everything just sort of like nonchalant. Chelantly and it's like optics growing. And it's like I'm still just kind of like maniac in optic.
Starting point is 01:09:42 And it's like what's fucking next? So it's like if they'd be down to put it on my channel, I'd 100% do it. What we're going to do? I do want to do a marathon by the end of the, by the end. end of the year could do something where like I trained for a month and attempt a marathon you know the girl um then fucking whatever ideas they they have i'd be down fucking go live in iceland in the snow for a fucking yeah three day i don't i don't know i mean you could dude you can do challenge videos off of anything but i think you can do the rocks workout routine for two to two
Starting point is 01:10:19 for a week straight. Yeah. Or, you know, I trained, I did help, imagine doing hell week. I did hell week with,
Starting point is 01:10:28 with a seal. Or, you know, you could do with, when it comes to fitness, like, you could, I could think of like
Starting point is 01:10:33 five things off the top of my head. Yeah. They're going to be fucking hard. Fitness or it's like, I don't know if I want to do the, who's the dude who used to like travel all the time and then he died. Uh, he's super famous.
Starting point is 01:10:45 People thought he was like cool as fuck. It's smoke cigs. drink beer. I can't fucking... I think he's on, like, Netflix or something. He was like the... Alex something? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Alex... It was like Steve Irwin. Or... There's no way I'm fucking... I don't know. But something like that. Like, he, like, traveled and just, like, explored the world.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I mean, I wouldn't be doing that. But I'd be, like, traveling for a specific reason. Whatever they'd be down to come up with, um... I'd be down to do. Yeah. I had a nightmare last night
Starting point is 01:11:23 because I, I'm starting to get in the process of, of, um, who is that fucking traveler? I'm starting to get in the process of planning out the next offseason event. And I forgot like how, how much of my mental capacity it takes to, to plan an event like that.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Anthony Bourdain. Anthony Bourdain. Anthony Bordane. I've never even heard of, I think you told me about him. That's the only time. What? Dude. The comments better.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Roe Hitch. I know everyone listening besides you knows Anthony Bourdain. Okay. You thought Oasis was a one-hit wonder in the same podcast. So. Roast him. Yeah. I just forgot.
Starting point is 01:12:08 I kind of forgot or it's been so long that I forgot how much of mental capacity it takes to to organize an event like the offseason. And I woke up. because like there's all this stuff that I'm planning and I and I I I was dreaming that like the offseason was like next next week and like all the all the plans that I had made like none of it ever came to fruition and then I remember like I was on the mic and there was you know there was like 50 people there and I was like hey guys we just raised it was the end of day one I was like we just raised three thousand dollars which is like 25,000
Starting point is 01:12:47 less than last year on day one. And, you know, people were clapping. And then I was like, I woke up and I was like, holy shit. Really? I thought, I like thought I, you actually had this dream. 100%. And it kind of like, I, I woke up and I was like kind of happy because that like tank that I go into, especially the offseason last year, I was like super unhealthily stressed
Starting point is 01:13:13 about it. But it happened and it worked. It went to the next off season. I can't I the date is not 100% locked but it's in for Activision approval right now and so that should get approved hopefully tomorrow or the next day
Starting point is 01:13:26 and then working on announcement stuff so nice I'm excited about that I guess we can talk about the God team dude the Lakers got swept then the Cains got swept then Optic got swept and then ECU lost in the conference championship
Starting point is 01:13:50 I think the heat we're up three and now it's, I think, 3-3. What? I think going to game 7. I could be wrong. I mean, I haven't watched. Because I'd just like scroll and I'll randomly see shit. I'm like, damn, really?
Starting point is 01:14:01 And I think it could be the first, if they win 4-3, that'll be the first time in NBA history. Someone's coming from a- Are you serious? Remember when LeBron was done? Wait, is that happening tonight? Is it 3-3 right now? Maybe. It might be happening tonight.
Starting point is 01:14:12 I don't know. Holy shit. But the COD team. Yeah. First off, I tweeted this and people were like kind of confused. because I said Averill Levine And for some reason that's just average Avrolelele
Starting point is 01:14:26 And I think me and Royal 2 just haven't Just used to say it like Holy fuck I'm playing so Avril Levine Or like what does stupid fucking slang Yeah But I tweeted like Like my Averal Levine self Because I was good at moments
Starting point is 01:14:43 I felt like I was one of the best But like you can place me Maniac showing up to a tournament Top six if his team's playing really well they could get top three and like that's about where I I feel like I sat
Starting point is 01:14:57 but for these fucking elites where I was like it felt bad for me getting I tweeted it felt bad for me getting top 12 when like I was just like top six if I got top three I was happy I mean losing sucks regardless
Starting point is 01:15:10 but you know win once every 10 years you know so for these elite fucks that are just absolutely nasty the faces a call of duty for them to get top 12 I can only imagine the the pain
Starting point is 01:15:26 and the fucking annoyance man It has to suck It's so It's just how call it dude And they go of course Of course They go like 5 and 0 And I think that was the
Starting point is 01:15:36 Twice They went 5-no twice Really? And wasn't that the first time The last 10 matches They didn't lose In online play And has any other team
Starting point is 01:15:46 Even went 5 and 0 Yeah I think I think Faze went 5 and 0 once, but no one's ever done it twice. I'm fairly positive. Someone said, like, no one's ever done what they've done recently.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And then, of course, go to the event, 3-0 to first off, I turn the game on, or I turn the match on, and I see they're playing mutineers. And I'm like, all right, I got to go, go to the gym or something. Like, this is, this is just the win that I don't give a fuck about. Like, I'd look at the Florida roster, and I'm like, all right, I'm going to go to the gym. So I assume they're just going to win Next day Sabas I go to the gym with
Starting point is 01:16:29 Say boss We come back to my place Because we're gonna go for a run Where we go for a run Come back And then he's like Oh shit the game's about to be on I'm like oh shit really?
Starting point is 01:16:40 They play And then turn it on And they were like He mentioned something about losing I'm like huh It was like yeah we lost yesterday I'm like what? I'm like what was the series
Starting point is 01:16:51 He was like 3-0. I'm like, what the fuck? Three-o. So we're on losers right now? He's like, yeah. I was like, man, we're playing 100 Thieves? He's like, yeah, I'm like, what the no? I just, for some reason, hopefully none of them ever hear this, but I have a bad feeling
Starting point is 01:17:05 when we play thieves. It's just, it seems like, is that a rival right now? Yeah, well, those, I mean, those boys just, they try. They seem like they turn up. They're the best, the best version of 100 thieves is playing us, 100%. Yeah. 100% especially Kenny I don't know what that fool was on
Starting point is 01:17:24 when he plays us but he is disgusting Yeah Even though I think Sam was the one that I didn't watch See the thing is I didn't watch it all this weekend I didn't watch this first time I watched the thieves match After that I didn't give a fuck about CDL I did watch a little bit of the finals
Starting point is 01:17:40 I watched New York play a little bit Apparently phase choked finals Guys But that's how Call the Duty They go to game seven people are overlooking the fact that Call of Duty is just like this now
Starting point is 01:17:55 Yeah It's no excuse It's no excuse Did you see the bracket 30 30 30 30 30 The it was I'm telling you the chance The probability of this happening
Starting point is 01:18:06 Is fucking insane The amount of 3Os Really? There was probably like 10 What? It was insane I'm telling you like Maybe you can like Google
Starting point is 01:18:16 And find the image But it was fucking insane how many like literally it's just 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 oh then and losers bracket 30 30 30 30 oh and then maybe like one three two and then 30 30
Starting point is 01:18:28 dude it was insane cod is weird dude okay thieves wins I think cod shit thieves wins the last tournament they won the last major then they go into online play
Starting point is 01:18:44 and don't win us they went one and four and start in losers bracket and no i think this is the second year straight that there hasn't been a repeat winner okay so uh seattle wins the first one phase wins the second one toronto wins the third one
Starting point is 01:19:07 uh la wins the fourth one and new york one's a fifth one that's not a single repeat winner yeah that's crazy and we come in second twice and that happened in vanguard too not a single repeat winner in Vanguard except for champs this game's weird and it's like anything can
Starting point is 01:19:26 fucking happen in Cod anything and in Halo you know who's in top three you know all three teams yeah in Cod dude anything could fucking happen yeah and and so you have to treat every single match like it's your
Starting point is 01:19:42 last series oh my man it's fucking stupid I remember I can't Doug Doug Sensor Big Dog Mart tweeted out something of like, this online shit has to stop of like, how did thieves win the last major
Starting point is 01:19:56 and then they're starting in losers bracket for the next one? I mean, but it's not, like it makes no, these online points are like eating way too much. I don't think online is as crazy as people make it out to be.
Starting point is 01:20:07 I really don't think it is. How much of a difference it is? I don't think it is. I can tell you this. Before fucking 28 years ago in 2000, 10. Yep.
Starting point is 01:20:20 We like we, I think 11 or 12-oed final boss online. Easy. Like, they get shit on. We got fifth. They won the event. And this happened often. Online's not as everyone has good internet now. So I was going to say it's a lot different than it was.
Starting point is 01:20:40 And their servers now. So it's definitely not as bad as what it used to be because it used to be crazy. I'm telling you, like, the amount, I was, I literally made up, I mean, the fans made up Laniac as my, like, my, maniac, aka Laniac, because I show up on fucking land and you guys are fucking bad. And I'm always losing a dog shit online. I always had shit internet. But it used to be a big deal. Now I understand, or it used to be a big difference. Like, it used to be super hard.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Now it feels, it's definitely not as bad. but cod's weird I don't know if I can really speak on it because thieves wins then they go one and four but it's like
Starting point is 01:21:26 I don't think on yeah it might it might just be cod there's definitely I'm sure if any cod pros which none of them are listening to this
Starting point is 01:21:37 but I'm sure they would agree online is stupid like loudness EQ changes shit that's dumb people play more comfortable at home shouts out the monster. Like there's, even in Halo,
Starting point is 01:21:51 people play so good online that like motherfuckers think they're cheating because they go to the event and then it's just like, okay, here's the real him. Yeah. And it's like that happened in my career a lot. Like people I would lose to all the time.
Starting point is 01:22:06 I would go to the event and it's just boom 3-0. They're like, boom, 3-1. They got lucky and won the Slayer or something. But I think that's always been a thing. people I can't say it's the internet that's the issue or the ping
Starting point is 01:22:21 I think I think a decent amount of it is like The environment You know you when you're in your room And you take 90 MGs You're in like your comfort zone Like you don't have a fuck you don't have the lights The crowd
Starting point is 01:22:36 The speakers The earbuds Your teammates beside you're just You're just frying You're just in the fucking zone You don't have people looking at your screen. There's not as much pressure.
Starting point is 01:22:49 And some people really perform better. I know that. And I'm sure it's a lot. I'm sure a lot of cod kids do that. I'm sure a lot of, I'm sure cod pros would agree. But so I think something
Starting point is 01:23:04 something with the online points might have to change the Cod's bad. I think though. That might be the reason. That might be. be number one. I love college duty and I love the community but
Starting point is 01:23:20 even at events motherfuckers are placing random people are putting way I mean I hope the boys pick it up and there's no excuse for going 0 and 6 it really isn't but it's just how caught is it's how caught is nowadays also it doesn't matter fucking 0 and 6 or
Starting point is 01:23:37 they lost both 3 2 you still fucking lose it doesn't fucking matter still lost still got top 10 bad weekend but have you seen the champs bracket the champs bracket, phase, thieves, and Toronto are on one side of the bracket and we're on the other. So we... Somehow
Starting point is 01:23:53 we still got a really good bracket. I mean, we still got to be breach. That's what we got first is Boston. So we still got to beat them. Nah, that'll be good. But we got the fucking God, God luck. And what's crazy?
Starting point is 01:24:07 Fuck, it's so dumb, man. Like, this literally getting top 12 and might have just, you don't know. You just never fucking know. Are you going to Vegas or no? I mean, I hadn't Thought about it at all
Starting point is 01:24:23 Might randomly It is champs So if like If we were to win and I wasn't there I'd fucking rage Yeah If we placed If we placed the average
Starting point is 01:24:34 I don't know We'll see I know it's coming up soon But Yeah We'll see Might see y'all there Yeah
Starting point is 01:24:43 I think I'll be I always do the last year when we lost champs on that fucking Tuscan, I, dude, I remember that being a turning point in my life because I was like, I can't get this upset about shit like this anymore. Like, it's not healthy. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm fucking 29-year-old man getting like, like literally my,
Starting point is 01:25:06 we lost on Saturday, my Sunday was ruined. Yeah. Just ruined. I was like, okay, I can't do this shit anymore. There's a fuck ton of events coming up. the Halo event this weekend. I think scumps watch partying it. The Halo event?
Starting point is 01:25:21 Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's doing it in at the event, right? Yeah. But I also don't know how, first off, page, I might be on it. We'll see. Page sent me the content schedule for this week. You should be on it. Well, page sent me the content schedule for this week and put me on it.
Starting point is 01:25:38 And I'm just like, well, thanks for asking. Because I think you're, you get paid to be on it, though. I don't know if you knew that. I don't think so. Or I think I asked Paige, I was like, what a, I'll explain. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:54 My watch, my hate, first off, I'm fucking Halo. My, I'm a Halo guy. When I do my Halo watch parties, they're the biggest streams. They're my biggest streams.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Like, I like need those. Yeah. Like those help. Like it just gives that boost. Every, new people, old people,
Starting point is 01:26:12 like people sort of would gather to my stream. And it's just, it's a huge help. And I'm not fucking, and I'm not fucking rich. So it's like I need, I need these opportunities. Yeah. And like I, the last Halo event was like during the Colorado trip and they made me skip it. Like I really tried to get out of that.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Yeah. And it was a fun trip and like they really needed me to go. So I was just fucking took the hell, whatever. And then this time I was like, okay, I'm a watch party this. And then we find out Seth's watch party, which is like cool, good for him. Like I know that's going to. if I was to watch party it by myself and then Seth's doing his obviously
Starting point is 01:26:49 it's fucking scump it's gonna be huge and it's way more professional but like I do my thing on my watch party it's just like think of it from my point of view these are my best streams and it's just like damn now you guys just assumed
Starting point is 01:27:04 I'm like you're not gonna watch party you're just gonna be on his watch party and I'm gonna be the only Halo guy on his watch party but you're gonna be able to watch to stream it as well yeah But that's, it's not the same. That's not the same as interacting, being hype on a fucking sub train. Oh my God, 50 fucking bond and talking to my chat, being crazy, being ignorant, being fucking, you know, just being ridiculous on my own little stream and like doing it my way.
Starting point is 01:27:32 But it's like, I just, I need streams like that. And for me to just like completely give that up just to like be a part of someone else's stream, it's like kind of, it's kind of shitty. but I understand being on scump stream is obviously it's fucking scump it's a big deal it's not as big as
Starting point is 01:27:50 it's not gonna be as big as they call it duty shit it's not he's not gonna have fucking 60,000 plus viewers so it's not it wouldn't benefit me as much as like
Starting point is 01:28:00 you know a cod stream if I was or being on his cod watch parties if I was a cod player but I don't know you just kind of kind of got a not that I was annoyed
Starting point is 01:28:11 because it would be fun And like, I should be on it because it's Halo. And these motherfuckers, when they're watching the top 16 matches, what are they? They don't know these players. And like I do. So it makes sense. But it's just, I think everyone can see my point of view. It's just like, damn, I'm supposed to give up my biggest streams, which like I kind of need and really want.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Like, I'm supposed to give up just like my biggest streams to be a part of it. But maybe we can work something out. It would be fun. and I'd like to, I know they don't know much, they know of Halo in like some of the bigger teams, but it's gonna be a long weekend and for me to just give up like
Starting point is 01:28:55 eight hours each day, every day, it's like, I don't know, maybe we can figure something out. Yeah, they definitely need you there. Because I planned on doing it myself and then she randomly sends me the content sheet and I'm like, damn, well, fuck. These are like my biggest streams.
Starting point is 01:29:09 I kind of like need these. I'm sure you can talk to somebody Yeah See if we can figure something out That'll be fun Regardless Yeah first Halo event And fucking forever
Starting point is 01:29:20 That's gonna be fun Yeah dream hack It sucks because I'm gonna be in I'm gonna be in Raleigh for that Because the Oh really The Dallas United team plays The team that Optic sponsoring
Starting point is 01:29:29 We did the crossbar challenge Is X going? I don't know Hax has to choose He'll probably stay here Because I'm going there with TST and I think Sayboss might be going as well
Starting point is 01:29:41 So that's going to be fun. But it's back, I mean, it's my hometowns in North Carolina. All right. Well, we got some things coming up. I guess it's going to do it for the Flycast episode 700. I forget. So many. Thank you guys so much for watching.
Starting point is 01:30:00 I tried to, I may try to chug some caffeine for this one. Last one I was so fucking tired. It's kind of giving it, it kind of gave me anxiety. Really? I didn't even notice until you told me afterwards. Maybe it's just in my brain. I'm like, dude, my brain twerking. I felt tired.
Starting point is 01:30:14 I felt tired during this one. I don't know if I was... Yeah, I don't know. It was fucking me. That would you guys enjoy the episode. Until next time, Matt Craig. Play that outro music.

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