The Flycast - OpTic House History & Moving Forward (The Flycast #017)

Episode Date: March 28, 2018

OpTic House History & Moving Forward (The Flycast #017) by The Flycast

Fucking intro, man. Jack got hosted by Ninja. Yeah. Gosh. They did. And this is pretty much, this is going to take off right where we left off. Just Fortnite Ninja. Yeah, well, I don't want to talk about it the whole time because it's kind of beating a dead hole.

But to be fair, every time we do a flycast, something new, ninja-related pops up. I mean, it's literally the only thing that's going to. on yeah like name something else going on besides ninja and fortnight there's no logan paul there's no jake paul there's like they're trying to like yeah be in conversation but i mean they're probably not trying but it's just every all everyone's talking about's fortnight and ninja like jack was um jack was in the office today and and like i went up to him and said something about it and then um said something to him about it and then um said something to him about it and then a lot of people within the office came up to them and just started talking about it,

just started saying, like, congratulations, man. That's so weird. Isn't that weird? If someone came up to me and said, congratulations for Ninja hosting you, I'd be like, no offense, but no. I mean, it's like, it's huge because Ninja is huge, but, like, I don't know. Maybe that's just my, that's my, just because I know Ninja. Yeah.

like it would almost it's not almost but it's like if congrats hitchh hosted you yeah just because i've like known you for years or whatever yeah but it's like nah i can see that but then i can also see like jack was just like oh i'd freak out if he hosted me i would i would clutch it so hard yeah it would like give me so much like motivation or just like i don't know i guess motivation just to perform just to be like going to straight acting. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what Jack did. He literally said, Ninja has hosted you for six, like, 100, 106,000 viewers.

Mom! Like, he literally, like, went straight into acting. Really? I didn't see the reaction, but I'm sure it was. It was crazy. He was, like, Jack was talking to me. He was like, it's actually, like, it's wild that people are, like, congratulating me about a Twitter. host. Right? And he was like, but that being said, having Ninja host you on a Twitch channel right now in

gaming is probably the best thing. It's like having a Drake feature. It's literally the best thing that could happen to you in gaming right now. It's like having a Drake feature if you're in music. That's the best. Like the only other thing in gaming that could happen is like that it's on that level as if like I don't, I mean, that's instant. I don't think there is. Jack went from, or Jack gained 15,000 followers yesterday on Twitch in one day. And Jack is already Jack. Like, he's already big. Yeah.

And now it's like already showing off because Ninja streamed today and Jack was at like, like, 2400 viewers. And as soon as Ninja got off, like, because all of, he obviously has so many people that they just all fluctuate, Jack went up like two and a half thousand viewers. Just be just from the trickle down. I think I'm going to dive into it. Are you? Yeah.

Like like H1Z1 days, but not as like like I'm going to do. I'm pretty much like I can't not do it. Because I know if like enough time has already passed or I'm like fuck I fucked up. Yeah. but by not hopping on the train. Right. And I don't want to like, like, I play casually now and it's like I don't have like winds that are like worth.

I mean, I could just like put up Fortnite videos for views. Yeah. But I haven't like indulged myself into it. Yeah, no, I get that. Like how you have to be. Yeah. Everyone that's popping in Fortnite right now is indulged in it. That's their life.

But like I'm trying to do like. I'm trying to do like, I'm going to be on more of like, even though I say this now, because when I do play, I actually probably enjoy solos. It depends who I'm playing with. Yeah.

But I'm going to try to do the Knicks Merk wave and workout is one of them. Still work out while doing this. And like just stay healthy, but like get like eight hours a day in of like some. And you know, you know the people I've, been playing with and like probably do get like my own little squad going and go for like high kill

games stuff like that on stream yeah which i think would work more for streaming than youtube yeah i mean like if i'm streaming that much a video is uh i'll have at least a game to clip out for youtube anyway so it'll it'll work hand in hand but yeah i'm looking to jump on the wave i mean that's what jack's hit it hard. I mean, he's streams every day, he's going crazy on streams, and he also works with a guy who edits

his YouTube channel, and they just, he just clips out entire games and uploads them the next day. So he's literally uploaded multiple times every day and streamed every day. That's crazy. It's impressive. It's what he's

wanted to do, though. Like, this is what he is set out to do forever. See, I can't, yeah. This is Jack's, like, dream job. Yeah, it is. It definitely is. But I can't really relate on that part because Jack, yeah, Jack love, like, you saw him the other day fucking,

yeah, playing with, like, some 10-year-old kid out of elementary school. And he's just like, one shot, dude. I got him. Nice dude. Yeah, yeah. Like, he just loves this shit, and it's, like, good for him. Yeah. But for me, I can't, I can't sit there.

unless I can't like half ass it I guess I can't I don't know I just don't like video games that much unless I know I'm going like fucking fucking all out and like trying to get good and shit like that's always like that's always like casually kind of play for eight hours and just be entertained yeah whenever um whenever Jack and I first started talking about it because whenever I was streaming monover two and like my stream was actually kind of like growing like I was getting like oh yeah well Welcome to the Flycast. I don't think we ever said that. No, I started it with fucking intro. Welcome to the Flycast. What were you saying? Like, whenever I first started streaming and Jack saw my stream, like, starting to grow, I was getting, like, I don't know, 700 to 900 viewers playing MonoWRefar 2 GBs, like, way back in the day.

And, like, I was watching Jack play, and Jack's really good. He was really good at Collad Deity. It was Black O'Lop's 3 at the time. but, you know, people weren't watching him because he was good. People were watching him because he was funny and he was entertaining. They were watching him for the fail moments

and, like, the funny moments. I mean, that's why people would watch me on H1, H1Z1. You think so? I mean, a lot of it is for like my... Just finish what you're going to say, and then I'll... Yeah. And I feel like at that moment in time,

I could have... I don't know. I feel like I could have gone the whole, like... like like super make like nuts not make fun of myself but like but like just really treat it as just an entertainment 100% of the time and don't don't like you know don't like get super into the actual competition of it because like you know him like he was playing like two B twos with Nagafin or whatever and like just having like a fun time and and like beating people and stuff but then I would hop into a game and like I would think that way but then like it would get intense

and that's all I would care about is just like hone in on the game and like literally forget about everything else forget about the chat, forget about like everything. It's hard when you're like stuck in between. Yeah. Like there's eat there's the Jacks

and then there's the formal. Yeah. Where it's like Jack will have 5,000 viewers because he's just like funny. Yeah. And then formal will have 5,000 viewers with webcam all because he's just destroying everyone.

Yeah. And then you have ninjas just both and plays with Drake. That's annoying. Fuck. What were you saying? when I was going to say something and then I was like you say it's like hard to be in between because you were that's how you were like with H1 oh for H1 we were talking about like kind of what was I in H1 as far as like do people watch for the rage or fails or and I think

people definitely because people liked my H1 what did I even call like rage tages yeah people like that shit. And like, I definitely, I'll go hours of just, like, fucking around, but then I'll go hours of, like, barely talking to chat and stuff. Trying to go hard as possible. Yeah. So it's going to be, I'm going to have to figure it out.

But what I fucking hate, and it's honestly a buzzkill, because it's just for real, is living in apartments, like, I got literally, I didn't even stream. that much or make many gameplay videos in my last apartment and still had three noise complaints in like a month. Yeah. So it's like, what the fuck do I do? Well, I think during the day I'd be fine. Yeah. I just can't be like, can't be 2 a.m. and screaming like, but that's like, that's the time I would always stream. Yeah. It would be like start at 8 p.m. to like 4 a.m. That's what your viewers are used to too. Yeah. Is those times. So it's just like, what the fuck am I going to do?

Because I do want to start, like, start a schedule next week of streaming. Because my computer fucking works now. Nothing happened to it, but it works now. Yeah. And then I'm going to take my other PC in tomorrow to where Hex got his fix. And then I'll be able to dual PC if needed. And you already have, like, all the parts to do it, like the, because there's like a dual PC way where you can do it like,

you know, like 80% or you can do like the full like it's actually two. Like the way I dual PC is like this like plug in for OBS where you're just like as long as both PCs are plugged into the same router, you can like dual PC but still it's a little bit better. Like Jack was saying that he played Fortnite with OBS not open and you can still tell the difference. But the way that you do it, you can't tell the difference at all. But what are you talking about? I blank the fuck out. I'm not going to lie.

I was saying, like, I think you already have everything set up because you used to dual PC stream when you were, like, playing. Well, you guys dual PC stream different. Yeah, it's like a different way, is what I was saying. Also, just to say this, it's not 100%, but I do, it's just like, I'd, like, have to do it. Or it's not 100% that I'm coming back next week or that I'm going to start streaming next week. But, like, I want to do it. it. Yeah. I want to have to. I don't have to, but it's like, I don't want to look back and be like,

damn, Fortnite was crazy and I didn't, I didn't do what I should have. Because I find the game fun. It's just, I don't, I don't, I don't, I can't, I can't, like, sit there and play for, yeah, seven hours a day, I don't know. The game was fun. It was fun. It was fun. It's not fun anymore. I don't think I have to be I can see why I have to be on a very in a very particular mindset

I like watching the game that's that's that like explains how I feel about the game like I can't I could it depends literally on my mindset of whether I can like sit there in game for a long time

yeah because I don't know it's not like H1 it's not like PubG it's not like you know any of these other like BR games It's like even Islands of Nine. I played that for a little bit. It was a lot of fun.

But it's like those games like, it's very like you're playing the map. You're playing positionings. You're rotating in the correct way. And it's all about whether your shot is good. Dude. And this, it's like the game is so popular.

And, you know, people like Ninja and Myth and these people are getting so big that it's like that's all that people want to play like. And it's not even fun to play casually. If you're not. It feels like a wager every single time you're playing, especially solos. Like, it's a little bit more fun playing with groups or playing with squads because you can just chill with your friends. But even then sometimes, it's like you'll run up on people and it's just like, all right, I got him.

That's got them. And they've built. That's going to be the downfall. Yeah, I think so too. Whenever that will be. But it is. It's going to be tomorrow. It is because that's why it like depends on my mindset.

Because it's like, do I want to deal with that? I don't know how, I don't know how people do. Fucking like buildings. It's so, it's so like, there's so much to do. Yeah. Especially for people who haven't been playing PC their whole lives. Yeah. It's like hard.

Which is crazy that Ninja's so good. I mean, Ninja was good at it. I wonder what. I wonder what PC games he played before, like H-1. He said his favorite game of all time is Final Fantasy something. I heard of saying it. Probably seven. I don't think it was seven. Because I remember thinking it's always seven.

That's what I assume, too, because I've never played any Final Fantasy, but anytime people say it's good, it's always seven. But he said like 10 or something. He said something different. Is that on PC? I don't know. So I'm saying I heard him say that on stream one time, so maybe that is on PC. I don't know.

I've played PC. I guess the only reason I'm decent is because of all the hours I put in on H1, but then also I played like League of Legends. Oh, yeah. I thought you're about to say Harstone. And I was like, isn't that a card game? That's literally clicking. That's no left hand at all.

Yeah. But like if people, if you played, if you started out on PC, like probably how all the countershut guys did. It's got to be like second nature. Yeah. like me with a controller, I guess. But then, like, if you try to hand a PC player, a controller, it's like a different world. Because I feel like...

I feel like learning how to use a PC is easier than learning how to use a controller. Really? I feel like it is. I don't know about that. You don't think so? Is it recording? I saw you look over there. It is.

It is. It is important updates are pending, so... Nice. It scared the shit out of me. Is this going to cut off the podcast? Because it makes me nervous. Fucks up my fungshue. No, we're good, man.

We're still doing this. Is that still recording over there? It's still recording. Okay. Flycast, best podcast and optic. Best podcast and optic. What's been going on with Optic? Before we get into that,

tomorrow, we're not going to do that. Tomorrow, is a big day. Wow. And I keep for, it's like, it's like a day that, you know, like when, when Christmas is coming and you're like, like, you're a little kid, you're like, can't wait till Christmas. And then there's some days that sneak up on you and you're like, oh man, tomorrow's like a cool day. And like, I'm excited for it. But I, I keep forgetting that I'm excited for it.

Tomorrow is, uh, there's a bunch of like leaks within the cod community and, like, a bunch of people talking that. tomorrow they're going to announce monorfer two remastered multiplayer so we'll see you guys are going to be so pissed if they don't yes it wouldn't even who's going to buy a non-multipower one nobody wait but didn't they do that for halo i think tj i was talking to tj and he said that they were at least like a halo three anniversary with or a halo three with no multiplayer or something like that they did i didn't know about it or touch it Did you ever play any of the Halo campaigns? Yeah, I played, I think, like, all of them.

Oh, yeah? Like, I always made it, like, a thing kind of to play them. Yeah. Then I think it turned into, like, I think, like, my teams at the time would play them. But I remember playing them, but I think with, like, Ace, APG. Yeah. Like, TJ or something, it was fun. Yeah.

I always said that, you know, regardless of all the shit that reach, like, Like all the people in the Halo community, what they think about reach, that campaign was amazing. The campaign was amazing. And the soundtrack is incredible. I don't even remember. Like, it's incredible.

I think I remember the Halo 3 campaign, like, pretty clear. Yeah. But all the other ones, not really. I just remember the Halo 1 campaign. That's, I feel like that's probably the best. It was like that, it was like, took campaigns to the next level, in my opinion, especially for console. But Halo 1 just fucking took everything.

took everything to the next level, yeah. Halo once started e-sports. What did start esports? Was it CS? Especially for console, it was Halo, for sure. Yeah, for console, for sure. But CS probably. CS are like old school, like,

there's like a, I've, like, heard a little bit about it. It's like, I don't know what it, like Doom or something, like something crazy. Probably. Like old game. I remember, like, Doom 64. Yeah. my dad would play that on the 64

what the heck that's fucking Torok do you remember that game what what a flashback what other games were there I remember he just played Torok Torok

and NASCAR or some shit and he had like the wheel the wheel pedal I don't know what system it was on by fucking that time, but...

That had to be like PS3. Yeah. Or PS2, PS2 probably. Yeah. Something like that. Those were the good days

when you would actually enjoy the game and not just do it for... Other reasons. Yeah, just to give views or to compete or practice or... That's why I'm hoping, man, oh, tomorrow is going to be so good if it's real. Like, if the... You know, I...

What if it's just such a... Letdown? Yeah. Like, I'm... I'm not even, I don't get hyped for nothing no more. Yeah, I know. Because I just been let down so many times. Yeah.

I don't know, man. Whenever, whenever it got leaked that it was just the campaign, my heart hit the floor. That doesn't even like. Doesn't make sense. But then I also like. And I'm going to lose every, any friend that I play with is just going to be grinding that. Yeah, that's true.

But that'll be fun. Actually, I'm like, I'll probably grind. too because it's not going to be straight S&D. No, the respawn in that game is unbelievably fun. I'll probably end up playing. Well, I will play. You will play.

If it's good and everyone's playing, it's like competitive. Yeah, that's... Because I, like I always say, I fucking hate... I hate S&D, but if it's like in between, like a, you know, like hard point, then, well, there's no hard point.

Yeah, it's just... But if it's like CTF, then S&D, then... Demo. demo or whatever. Yeah. Then I can, like, I'll deal. That's fun. It's like a change of pace, but not every game.

I don't know how people fucking... I don't know either. Like, Bose, like, loved... Oh, all he... Monoferry Master. He wants to do. Yeah. He loved Monoferger Master, and he loved Ghost,

and that's all he did. It's just play. I don't know. I don't either. I really don't. It's just... The feeling of calling out and... and like understanding spawns and like rotations and getting a cutoff or getting the clutch cap or the clutch return like that's that's why i play the game

that's so much more fun than getting like a 1 v2 or like i don't know like i mean there's definitely some incredibly hype things that happen during s and d but it's not as often s and d has its place and it's like needed i guess yeah but s and d's like not every game i can't do that Yeah. S&D's like the Slayer of of Cod, but even in Slayer is like more exciting. Because like, I guess Slayer is like the slowest pace game, right? It depends.

It can be, it can be fast, it depends. It's so crazy the dynamic of that because that's like, Slayer is literally team death match. And team death matches are the most uncompetitive game type of all time in Cod. Yeah, it's weird. It's totally different. Na-Lo. Yeah, but it makes sense because everything's about like team shot and spons and nating.

I remember how shitty video games were as a kid, but like how much, like, if these, if I was a kid right now, like, they don't even know. They don't know how bad it was. They don't know, like, how good, how amazing games are now. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. and it's like Jack Jack will constantly say that

you know nostalgia is just like it controls people's view of video games and it's not like like people say you know they loved Cod4 is the best game of all time and then they remastered it

and everybody hated it and it's just like it's like he'll say you know people will only remember the good times and they won't remember all the frustrations that happened but like

I think he's a little bit too extreme on that side And there's a lot of people that are too extreme on the other side saying that other games are perfect whenever they had a lot of problems Like people say HAL-3 people die by HALA 3 HAL-3 is better game online it was like fucking trash Yeah it was like terrible It was just good But it's just the game yeah right It's just like maids

There was no like There was bullshit online with just shot registration But like besides that there weren't like any just like extra dumb shit like the game even came out with like bubble shield and some blue ball you can throw that like gets you no shield and it's like but they like took all that out

and just like kept it basic and like that was just the competitive that was just Halo 3 take out the fucking dumbs I needed shit take out the lepracons dude in cod that's how it was. Like, every single year was as soon as the game came out,

in a half of, like, in four days, it was already stripped bare bones, and that was competitive. But then in Black Ops 2, in Black Ops 2, like, it was like a huge debate between, like, everybody in the community, yeah, it was like, we have to get it to being as close to out of the box as possible

because people want to play, you know, people, that's why League of Legends is so big, is that what people are saying? That's why League is so big. That's why I see. is so big. That's why Dota's so big is because you buy the game and the same game that you're playing is the same game as being played at the top level. That's what like KLo 5 tried to do. Yeah. But it's worked well. That's what I'm saying. I just I don't think it has. And I understand like I feel like that's just a growing pain of like con. Of like cod in general. Because I don't think that out of the box is necessarily a good thing in college.

If you want to play out of the box, we should be playing TDM. If you want to play out of the box, you should be playing big team slayer. And that should be the competitive mode, because that's what a majority of people play. You know what I mean? So if, you know, knowing that already, like, you can't even play it out of the box because TDM is not a competitive game type. And everybody, like 80% of the people play TDM. What year was Black Ups too? Is that like 2010?

2010 or like 2012 13 2013 yeah Halo 4 just come out trying to think was that at MLGs yeah that was I think that was the first game back

yeah first game back for MLG that was a what do you think were you around during like the debate with like streaks and shit I wasn't part of it but I was like a fan they were debating like should streaks be in or not right

right yeah and for the people were debating whether Streak should be in or whether HardPoint should be in because it was the first game where Hard Point was introduced into the scene Hard Point, it's so good Yeah, and people were thinking that like no, Hard Point is too hectic, it's too crazy I bet Bose is I want to find out I want to find out the psychology behind kids that like S&D versus like kids that like

Re-Spoena? Like what is it really? I don't know Like why but like people like Bose like why do some people like S&D and like they like one life is it like

they just like the thrill of like one life and it's like they got to clutch up that's that's possible I don't like that I how I always was with like everything like basketball Halo is like

my shit would always be like momentum where it's like I get a kill and then I start like heating up and then I'm like shitting and then it's It's like, okay, yeah, I'm in the fucking zone. Yeah. But in S&D, it's like you'll be in that zone,

just running across, like, a little window pop, you get snip by, like, a super good sniper or something. Yeah. And it's like your moment, and then you just sit there and wait for next round. Yeah. And it's like, that's how I feel. But then you think about, like, CS,

and it's like, that's the biggest esport in the world, arguably right now. That's what they do. Yeah. And I can never really get into it. Yeah. Have you seen that? I could watch it. I just can't play it.

Yeah. Because I just want to go. I just want to like. That's a thing with me and CS too is I don't. In COD, is I haven't played it. I guess I'm just like not naturally good at it. Because I just, I don't know. I think, yeah, because I think I'm not nerdy enough to figure out the shit and watch streams.

Like I learned so much from watching streams. Yeah. Especially in Fortnite. Like, every time I watch Ninja or Myth, I've learned something new. I'm just like, how much better would I be if I, like, actually, because I've literally watched, like, four streams ever. Yeah. In, like, Fortnite.

Yeah, I'll notice that, too. Like, I'll just watch, I'll watch Ninja or, like, myth or even Jack, because Jack's good as shit, too. And I'll just watch them play, and they'll do something. And I'm like, what? And then, like, in the middle of me playing, I'll just, like, do it. And I'll be like, what the hell? like you you like don't even think about it you're just like I know how to do that now and you

yeah like even just building like a certain type of building like it's you know how every time ninja will build a ramp it'll be like two ramps two ramps two ramps yeah and then it's say he like wants to go to the side like say he's building the front but he wants to go left yeah he'll build two ramps and then a wall on like the lower level of this ramp so he can start building to the left and it's like it's something you just if you were playing and haven't like watched them before you just wouldn't be able to do it as quick but like after you're watching you're like okay I kind of get this like this the like science behind is like building because they don't they build fast as fuck but it's not like that fast it's just they're so they're so like accurate and know what

they're doing yeah they just me if i get it's just you know hit, I'm fucking, I'm tapping and just whipping walls around me. But like them, they're like, they're like cool about it. Yeah. Like, they get hit and they just, wall wall stairs. Yeah. Like, kind of peek up.

And then when they challenge, they like, build ramp, ramp, ramp, wall. They wall off, like, while they're building up. And then they, like, build on top of somebody and look down on them. It's just like, God, I just watch it and get exhausted. Yeah. It's like, because a lot of a lot of times they just won't want to take

damage. So they'll like pump them once, hide and then like build again and then they'll like pump them once and the other people go to shoot them but they'll like just build a wall. Yeah. And what could have been like a

five second fight even though they would have lost some shields? It's just like a 20 second fight but they don't lose any shields. Yeah. Because it's just it's so annoying. Dude like I remember I was watching myth one time and he just had attack and there was a guy he was like shooting down on a guy who kept building a wall.

He was just like tack, tack, tack. Yeah. And then he would break the wall. And before the other person could build another wall, he would build his wall there. So he could. So that that person was just like, oh shit, I don't know what to do. And then he would just edit it and kill him. And I was just like, what the fuck?

But like how do you time that? Yeah. Like how can you time it to where, I mean, that you can if you're a freak. But it's just because I, I've been in that situation. Remember where I'm the guy just build, build, build, as someone's just shooting the shit out of one wall. Yeah.

But, and then I've also been the guy that's shooting the shit out of the wall, but it's like to have to know when that wall is going to break and to like put a wall down real quick, it's, it's ridiculous. And I always just lose track on my fingers. Yeah. It's like like, like, BR games just in general, like, like it's hard to practice on a BR game. Like, the only way to practice an.

H-1 is to solo drop in squads to Pleasant Valley. The only way to practice in Fortnite is the solo drop tilted. Like in order to like practice your shot, practice how to build up. I noticed when I played for a week straight, um, I would, I would drop tilted every single time. Like I wouldn't, I hated like and people wanted to play like make videos and like, When you play with hex and bows and them, it's like, let's drop fatal fields. And it's like you drop there. Half a team landed there.

You get two kills and it's like just walking the rest of the mat. But like there was the time where I was just playing solos every single game. And every single game I'm dropping tilted. And it got to a point where in a few days it's like I'd literally like, and even still now, as long as I'm like warmed up and like playing good. Like if I drop tilted, like I know what's going. on. And I know how to like survive tilted and like leave there with like eight kills. Yeah. And it got like consistent as fuck. But then when I would like start running, get out

in the fields, then like that it was it turned into like a gameplay, like a new gameplay or like it just a different type of gameplay. It's not Tilta Towers. Now it's about building and knowing how to build and shit like that. So I would notice like I would dominate Tilted and then died of like some a player shootier than me out in the field just because he like he knew to build above me quicker yeah um but yeah and but i've gotten practice and now with not now i don't even like landing tilted for real because it's just like it's so it's the same thing every single time it's whoever finds a shotgun land tilted try to find a shotgun you rush them they're not going to rush you yeah stairs stairs and just win the shotguns

Like stairs fights are so annoying like people will just crouch starrows and the trunk tower like jiggle peek it um but yeah it it definitely is like two sides to because sometimes like recently i i enjoyed landing like somewhere else just like retail so it's like get a couple of kills retail and then it's like i can i go off on my adventure i can like practice kind of building yeah shit like like that rather than landing tilted having to kill 10 people before i can even do anything and then you're coming out with no materials because it's fucking tilted yeah and look across loot lake there's a guy in the water but i can't hit him so then i chase him through the water use all my materials to get to the middle lake house get one kill but there's only 10 left yeah and i'm stuck in the middle of loot lake with no mats to get out i hate the word mats too. Same.

I can't stand it. A lot of people can't. It's weird how a lot of people can't stand it. Matt's? Like, I think I would always say, like, I need a farm. What's farming from, World of Warcraft? Farming. Isn't that from, like, league?

I don't know. Yeah, it is from league. Yeah, you would farm minions. Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. Hell yeah, I know my shit. I would say, like, farming or, like, I need wood or something. Yeah, yeah.

I would never say mats. That shit just pisses me all. Or I'd be like, I'd lull on materials. Like I would say it. I wouldn't say mats. The first time I heard about I'd be like, I need mats. I was like, what is he talking about? And then I realized it and I just instantly was infuriating.

I said something to Doc about it too. It's like, yeah, I hate that shit too. For real? How is Doc doing? I don't know. I've been like checked up on him. Does he, I'm assuming he's still, I'll see his, like, tweets.

He's still doing Fortnite. I know that. Is he? Like every day? Yeah, I think he is. I mean, you kind of have to. Have to. I mean, yeah.

And see, for like Doc, like, Fortnite is not the game because it's just too much. Yeah. Like, you can't expect Doc fucking, has he ever releases his head? I got to see.

Dude, this whole room just turned purple. I think I just passed out. And I made some weird noise. I was like, dude, it was right here. I think me saying I'm about to sneeze, stop my sneeze, and then like literally everything, like I saw like stars. Fuck what? Oh, does Doc ever release his age? I don't think so.

But you can very easily But I mean Everybody knows Well I mean For someone in their I'm assuming he's in his 30s Yeah For someone in their 30s like

You can't compete against these Kids that are like Just finding out about ninja And they're so excited to try to get good as fuck Yeah And like be the best And also his thing Like those are the kids you're running into

And also like Fortnite is His whole demeanor is Is I'm fucking Doc but when you're just getting pounded by fucking little shit. And it's not even that you're getting pounded by little kids. It's like you're getting beat. And it's also, it's a fucking cartoon.

Like it's a cartoon game. Like it's not like violent speed momentum. It's like I have a build. I have a fucking grenade. I throw it the ground that launches me into the air. That was probably the best edition they've done. You think so? Dude, that shit is so, that clip with Jack and fucking Nate shot.

You had to have seen it. Where Jack kills the whole team by blowing him off the mountain with Impulse Nade. He's like, I just blew their whole team off the map. Like the most obnoxious laugh ever. Like, ha, ha, ha, ha. And Nate Schott was like, yeah, and you downed me too while doing it. Because, like, if you watch it back, Jack Impulse the other team and Nade shot at the same time, sent them both flying off a mountain.

but like didn't notice and Nate shot was like yeah yeah you downed me in the process this is like all while Jack is like laughing and like smiling and then Jack just looks down at Nate shot and just impulses him again off the mountain kills him

and Will I can't believe you haven't seen that I haven't and Will they're playing with Big T Will just starts fucking laughing and it's like Jack's fucking crazy this shit is fucking funny dude that is really funny

You have to fucking see this. I don't even think Will plays anymore. Like, Will only plays squads with, like, those kind of things. I don't think he plays solos anymore. Does he not? For, like, YouTube? I mean, maybe he does, I don't know. But I know he's, he's, like, grinding a Far Cry 5 right now.

Do people still play those type of games? Dude, that game has sold so many copies. Really? Yeah. Maybe I'm just not, I'm not in the casual. loot. It's actually kind of fun. Like, I think, I think H1, like, rubbed me the wrong way so

much because of how competitive it is, or because of how, like, obnoxiously competitive it is. Like, I don't want to compete. I want to just play. I just want to have fun. Like, that's what was fun about H1. It's just, like, you can just drop in, and

everybody's on the same playing field, and, like, if you have a better shot, or if you know how to work it better, or if you have a cop car, like you can get around it. But, um, but now like, it rubbed me the wrong way because

I couldn't just like have fun that I, I just started buying like story games. I played a story game on stream. Finished it in one stream. It was actually pretty fun. And then after that, I just asked other people what their favorite story games was, were.

And then I bought, I bought The Witcher 3 and I've just been like casually playing it. It's actually kind of fun. It's like playing a movie. I don't know. I realized as I got older, I think I like how I play video games now compared to how I played them back then

back then as a kid every time I signed on a video game I wanted to do the best in the game every game and it wasn't even like a conscious thing like this is how I'm going to get better practice try to do as good as I can every game it was just like that's just I got on to to win to do the best thing

I can. And like that's how kids are getting on Fortnite now, but that is not how like I get on games now. Now it's like I really don't care. Yeah. Like I do want to, I don't like being bad at a game. So like I'll get to where I'm like decent, but I can't. I don't have the like focus anymore to go in games and fucking go hard every time. Yeah.

And I've been like, because of that, I've been. trying to find this like new wave of what I can do because same like playing fortnight on stream like as like as entertaining as it can be so many people do it and I'm very well aware that there is no reason to watch me like like the only time I ever play is if I'm playing with optic guys on the only time I ever play on stream is if I'm playing with optic guys or if I'm playing with tST and and so I was like trying to look for this new wave so I bought the actual Fortnite game to save the world, the zombies, the real game. I bought it and the way I bought it, it comes with like two friend additions so you can give your friends like two codes. So I got Blake and

George a copy and I was like, we're just going to get. I got a new emote that says like refill so I can like whenever I'm doing a stream or I'm drinking, you know, and I was like, oh, we're going to have some drinks and play, save the world, come join like it's going to be fun. Dude, that shit was so boring. really? Yeah. Save the world was? So boring. Because I was thinking that could be like an optic place.

Yeah. But I have no idea. I picture it being like a couple, like us just like mowing down zombies. Yeah. Nets. But I like I have no idea what it looks like. That's what I was hoping. Well, I was hoping it was going to be like a destiny, you know, like a like a destiny raid or like a warcraft raid where you like, you know, you have like your squad there.

and then you go, you know, take on this gigantic zombie in order to do things. But it was literally like every, we played five matches. And like you go in, you do the mission, and then you complete it. And we played five matches. It took us like an hour and a half. And every single time, you would just run around. It literally looks like the four-dye map. It would look like Pleasant Valley.

So you'd run around Pleasant Valley. You'd find this like one area. You'd set your like little thing there. And then you'd have to defend it for a minute and a half. So you just build a wall around that thing so no zombies get to it and then you just shoot zombies for A bit is easy as far as easy as fuck. It's so easy and then it would just end and like like the The Blake and George like have no patience for stuff like that like maybe if I was with somebody else that was like willing to do it like Maybe it would be fun but even me like I was just like this is not fun at all. It's just I think I just thought of how

dude how sick would it be you have did you play world of warcraft i did it yeah do you like no kind of yeah like about it like what if like in world of warcraft you there's so many like pieces of armor and like swords and like epic swords and like yeah i didn't play that much but i played a little bit but imagine in fortnight you could they made save the world kind of like world of warcraft and there was like a bunch of weapons and shields and armors and shit and then it's like you if you start getting like quest shit and save the world you like start equipping your character with that stuff and you just can make kind of like customize them kind of how you can and wow that you choose the cloth you wear like what if they did that for four dive for save the world and then you take that guy into like battle royale yeah so

it's like all the guys in there like look different that would be dope yeah my character my character on Save the World is the dopest shit I've ever seen. Can you like customize them like that? No, it's just like there's just different characters. So like you said like like the...

I want it to be like wow to where like it's just so customizable. Yeah. Well it's not so customizable but the amount of weapons and save the world there's got to be like 900 of them. Like there's so many weapons. Yeah. Um, why didn't you have Fortnite?

That'd be, that'd be cool. Yeah, I mean, I miss. I want to. So that's, the girl is my character. I want to play wow. I need to start playing wow. Imagine seeing, but I don't even want to play wow, but yeah. Imagine seeing that in, or in VR.

Yeah. Imagine seeing that run around? That would be dope. Or like, customized shit with that. Yeah. Yeah, there's not really customizable. You just buy the character. I can't believe you haven't played wow.

Yeah, I, I, I, did dabble in Roonscape, and I feel like for a little bit it was like Rooscape first, Wow. Because... That's the RuneScape and Minecraft are like the two biggest games I like never really played. Yeah. And that's the same with me in Wow. I never played. I just can't believe it is still that popular.

By Roonscape or Minecraft? Wow. Oh. Is it still that popular? Dude, so many people play it. Yeah. It's still... Scump plays.

Yeah, scump plays with like... Carly. Does he? I think. I think they play together. Oh, I mean, it's possible. I mean, you probably plays with other people, too. Yeah.

I didn't know he played with Carly. But yeah, he... I thought she played Rocket League or something. Overwatch. She plays Overwatch. Because he said he plays wow. I know they plays Overwatch. But I think they did play together, though.

Yeah. But it's just... I mean, I've been... bet you it would be so fun just just based off what i the the good experiences i had from destiny where it's just like a a four person little not even like a like i only played a ray like once or twice but just like the four person like you know uh destiny i don't even know what to call like challenge or whatever i don't even like destiny yeah but just yeah i mean i know you and i can understand why you wouldn't it was like kind of a pretty shitty shooter but it was just like the

of it because it was just like 30 frames and you turned like this and then it was just like it was like the same shit over and over and over again but for the initial like launch of it whenever you're doing these like missions where it's like you have to do different things you know back to back to back with your team and then at the very end you feel you like earn something and then you take that and multiply it by a thousand which is what wow is like they have apparently they have like a hundred people raids yeah what it'll take like a hundred like a hundred people together to like kill the final balls or whatever the far fucking I literally can't even wrap my mind around yeah dude wow was fun me who was it me formal

lethal and I'm trying to think who we played with there had to be four of us but I know me formal and lethal played a a whole summer like not like I would I would wake up and I played on a laptop, I'd wake up in my bed and just like, grab my laptop on my lap, and then it starts. But it's just like, where did that maniac go? That would like, that just wanted to play a fucking video game. That's what I'm saying, like, like, because I've been through waves of, I don't really play video games. I just, I'm a cod kid.

That's how, I don't know, just so I don't forget, I don't know what the fuck. I'm like, am I going to be a gamer? Or am I going to be like a lifestyle? I don't know. I don't know what the fuck. And the bad part is, is that you have a lot of potential. I feel like both of us could do either. Like, I feel like if you put me in a video where, you know, I'm just me, I could perform

pretty well and I could, you know, be entertaining and have some sort of passion there. But also, if you give me a video game that I'm, like, really into, like, I'm terrified for this moment or two things. Yeah. I'm going to stream. I just, I really hope that. Because I hope, because there's like an aura around me that is Monomorfer 2, like, because I threw two throwbacks, I threw, you know, two throwback streams for Monofer 2. I streamed it all the time when nobody else is streaming it. Like people always, you know, like people in Optic especially just say, oh, Hitch loves Monomer 4 2, you know? Yeah.

And so like what better, I feel like I will regret it if Monofer 2 remaster comes out and I don't like base my stream around it, you know? Well, you are. Yeah. You're going to be balls deep in that game. Yeah. But I also, but I want it to be like stream. Like I want, I want, I want to, you know, hit it hard on stream to and do it right, I guess. Yeah.

So. I got to tell you what Mike, uh, flame proposed to me today. It's got to be off camera though. Oh. But it's fucking. I don't know, man. It's weird. What do you mean?

Things are coming up. What? I don't know. You can't say that. No, I'm kidding. It's about, it's just like a, I don't know if it's an idea he had or just like, or if it's like really being talked about. But I'll have to just tell you off camera.

Okay. But it has to do with playing video games, but that way. But it's interesting. I guess now is when we transition to talk about the riff-raf concept. We went to a refraps show. Yeah. So how did you like it? I thought it was fun.

I thought it was crazy. It was, it was, it was definitely a cool experience to be able to say like that that happened. Yeah. Like it's like a drink with a refresh. Yeah. Like chilling and the, I don't even know what you would call the dressing room. Yeah. There's something.

But it was that dressing room. I bet some legends have been in that dressing room. Some crazy shit's going down. That looked like a movie dressing room. Yeah. Like you walk in. There's like girls and just doing lines of Coke or something. Like that's what I,

that's not what happened. Yeah. But like that's what you, that's kind of what that place looks like. Yeah. And I was, I tweeted, I was like,

we're going to the lizard lounge and I tweeted that. And then there was people from Dallas that were tweeting me. They were like, that place has been around for like 25 years. So you know some crazy shit went down. Yeah. It was cool. Like in the early 90s, lizard lounge.

Imagine like... It's fucking... Chili Pepper's play there. Oh, yeah. Run DMC. Yeah. That shit was crazy. It's because you could tell when you were in there, like, who was...

Who he was cool with? And then, like, who were, like, the fans. Yeah. Like, they were just pulling random girls up. Yeah. And it's like, how... Not how does that happen? Because I know how it happens, but it is funny.

It is. Dude. And one girl, like, walked over to him, asked him a question. She immediately gets asked, he was like, what is this? An interview? And then his friend was like, we ain't, I don't know what he's. He's not taking questions right now. He's not taking questions.

And I don't even know if she was interviewing him or just saying, hi. She walked up and she sat by him and she said, so why are you, so why are you being so, what did she say? what is it when you're like keeping to yourself and you're not you're being secluded what is what is it why are you being a loner why are you being why are you i can't what i'm blanking the word but it's basically secluded like socially not socially i don't know antisocial why are you why are you over here being antisocial and he was sitting down he was sitting down on his phone like this and she comes up and sits to his left and said, why are you being so antisocial over here?

And he goes, why is this girl interviewing me? And he stood up and said it. He was like, I'm not being interviewed right now. And you start, you busted out laughing. I don't know if you remember because you were like pretty intoxicated. Yeah, I was drunk. We were all aware. It was fun though.

And then she just gets like immediately kicked out. But it was like, it was crazy because he kind of like, we went up there and he was like just talking to us. Yeah. Like it wasn't like, Hey, thanks for coming out, enjoy the show or something. Yeah. It was like, we were like, I don't know, chilling with them.

We were just chilling with them, yeah. And it's like, yeah, I have to figure out, like, it's something that I've been racking my brain on. I'm like how I want to go about this. Because he's like putting a lot of faith into me. And I don't really know. I mean, he just doesn't know even know where to begin. Yeah. And I mean, that's awesome.

I'm super appreciative. but it's like pressure because, you know, if you do it right, if I do it right, there's definitely potential there to make some, you know, dope-ass content, but I don't know, there's a lot. I'm probably going to get into a call with his merch guy pretty soon and figure out. Or his designer, so we can make, like, cool stuff. When was that last Thursday? Yeah.

Last Thursday. I need to start going out more. It was fun, right? Yeah, just like... Just like going... The fact that we were just going... Just like out. Yeah.

Because people don't... Let's talk about this. The lack of... Like, people always say shit about vlogs. I'm sure people give Hex shit about vlogs. Yeah. I would say Hex is different than us right now because, like, people... I always thought Hex should vlog because, like, it's...

I would be interested to see, like, how does a CEO, like, you know... You know, he wakes up early. And it's like, what do you do? What does Hex do? And it's like, Hex always has like something to do. But like for us on the other hand, it's like, we kind of got here. And I think we envisioned a city. But we're really just kind of.

We envisioned a city because we were told it was going to be a city. That's true. Coming down here. It was like, we're just expecting something different, but we're, it's just like, what the fuck do we do? There's like nothing to do. It kind of moved to another bearing that. There's no like, yeah, it's like, we're 30 minutes away from Dallas. We were 30 minutes away from Chicago.

It's like, we're 30 minutes away from Dallas. We're two some hours away from awesome. We're like three hours away from like a pretty cool lake that like people go there and party and shit. Yeah. But it's like, what else is, it's like, I think we're at a point now where it's like, what the fuck do we do? Yeah. It's like, it was like, thank God we're somewhere that's not dark and gloomy all the time. Why now it's raining right now?

But we're like, oh, man, we're going to see the sun in Texas. And then that kind of. It's nice. It's really nice. But then that kind of goes away and you're like, well, I'm grateful the sun is out. But what is there to like do in this sun? And this sun. professionally I can't make a video without getting kicked out of my apartment and there's still nothing to yeah I don't yeah I don't know that's why we got a and then on the top of all that we have like but I mean that's not to say that we are like not to say that we're home bodies but we're not fucking like reckless and like we're not night we're not the type of people yeah we're not night crawlers that like are out all

the time and like none of no one in optic like drinks much yeah that's true um so and no one's like a party animal yeah but Bose and Mike like but they're not like party animals yeah just like yell Mike you want to go out but it's just like we go out here and it's like it's literally just another barrington yeah it's like we go to this place uh concrete cowboy and it's like cool it's a cool bar they have a dance floor and it's like pretty cool but it's the same exact shit that has been going on for the past like three to four years that we've logged before and going to concrete cowboy is just like a little bit better than going to the underground not even that i wasn't even i was thinking of because the underground in this metaphor would be in downtown dallas so that means

concrete cowboy would be in Barrington, which is that one bar that we used to go to. I don't think I ever went to that bar for real. Yeah, it was like a bar 10 minutes away. I would, Concrete Cowboy, I would say it's better than the underground. Yeah. The underground was just like,

the underground was weird. The vibes they were like, it was like, the security is so serious. I don't know if I ever had a good time at the underground. Like, we always went. I did in the beginning. Maybe Seth's birthday was pretty fun

Seth's birthday was fun It was also just weird Because Hex was there I was like Well I think he was just there for like Yeah just for a little bit An hour and then Like he usually does

What ended up happening that night? I'm sure we just jawed drank And I don't even remember getting home I don't remember that night I just remember I just remember making a movie out of it Yeah that shit was a banged

Sounds like one of your best videos. But like that type of shit's fun. And it's like, yeah, if something cool like that is like, you know, happening to vlog, vlog it. But on like a day-to-day basis, what I can only go, I can only make wandering around these parts and like going to Target like and be funny while doing it. Like I can only do that so many times without being like, okay, what's the next step? Yeah.

And it's like all of us are talking. I know me and Bose. I don't know if you include Aaron's just my roommate, so he's there. But like, and Aaron and like Mike will come over. And it's like, what? Like, whether people fucking believe it or not, but it's like we're not, every day that goes by, we're not just like, we don't not care. Yeah.

Like, we want to be able to make dope shit. But, like, we want to make dope shit. We don't just want to make a fucking another Barrington target vlog. Yeah. And it's... That's sort of saying, like, this whole move. It's definitely on us as well, though, because we could do... There's, you know, we haven't really explored that much, but it's like, what?

I tried looking up. I literally just looked up, like, cool shit to do around here. I don't, I didn't type that exactly in, but... And then it's just, like, museums. came up and shit. Yeah. That's what the fuck? I want to do.

What's there to do without having to drink and like go? Like we might as well. I don't know. Like what is there to do that it has nothing to do with drinking? I kind of just, we might as well. Move to L.A. Yeah, we should. Oh, that was my point of saying like me, Bose and Mike and Aaron.

fucking whoever like all the content creators or entertainers or influencers whatever you want to call us it's not like we just sit there and enjoy like it's not like we're happy with what's going on we're not happy with content yeah with content in general but it's like what i don't know it's like what do we want something new even with this whole thing like we won't and me personally like I wanted I wanted to take it to the next level scoot forward a little bit I wanted

I wanted to like take it to the next level like like like like you know make like you know even better visions and then you know instead of vlogs like make you know like something else like instead of instead of vlog here

gameplay video here like I kind of want to do something new like do something do the next thing and you know I like what Chack's doing and he's like got his, he's got his section locked down the same way Big T locked his section down like two years ago. I don't know.

We might as well fucking just take Bose up on his offer and just go to the studio one day. Just see what we come out. I mean, that'll, yeah. I mean, that'll happen. But on a fucking like day-to-day, like, I feel like me, Bose, I don't know about Mike, but like we, I know all of us, we like want to go to L.A. We like want to move to L.A. Yeah.

Fucking the weather's amazing there. Just the fucking everything makes the atmosphere, the vibes. Potential. Yeah. All the collabs we could do. Like people, that's like, that's our world right there. Fucking random. Not the, I'd like it here.

Yeah. But it's just, we need to figure out shit to do. Yeah. Like I like Friscoe, but it's like we haven't even been. invited out to like a football game or something. Yeah. And it's like, wasn't that,

aren't we like, we like talk to the city basically. Yeah. Or maybe like hex does or something. Yeah. But it's like the whole thing of moving down here was. Was to be a part of it. Well, first it was like we're going to be in Dallas.

Yeah. Overlooking the city. Right in the city. It's going to be sick. And I was like, damn, that'd be cool. Like every time I walk out of my apartment,

you know, I'm in downtown Dallas. and it's like huge buildings everywhere. But now it's like I walk out of my apartment and it literally looks like a fucking prison. And I'm just in. That's not to say like I'm super appreciative of like this shit. Yeah.

It gets paid for and like the whole move is a good idea. Yeah. But I don't know. There's just shit that there's like there's only so much you can make try to like make cool. Yeah, and I think it's just on top of all that, it's just nothing, nothing right now is 100%. Well, at least not for me. I think people like Jack and, you know, maybe he's like the e-sports kit, like the people like

esports competitors, like they have something that's 100%. Like that's their fallback. Jack's fallback, if everything is going wrong or if nothing is going right, he can stream and he's going to kill it. But me right now, I feel like I don't have that 100%. Because even vision, even vision was always my fallback. That was always my, my, well, that's my thing. Like, if all else fails, I can do that.

And even that now, because of all, like, the craziness behind that, it's like, it's hard to fall back on that. So it's like, not only, it's like, that's like the move wasn't bad. And, like, I'm, you know, I think we're going to continue to make bangers. and one day, you know, out of the five of us or the six of us, there's somebody's going to do something that's going to transcend this shit. And, you know, I feel like at that point we're all coming, like we're all going with. Like, I feel like you could do it.

Mike can do it. Mike's already done it with the red one. I'm just wondering why, I don't know. I just, my goal is to like find, I don't know. Like anytime anyone in the chat has ever like, let's do something today. It's like, all right, what? Yeah. Let's get tacos.

Let's main event. Yeah, main event. Let's bowl for the seventh time this month. Yeah. So it's just like, what the fuck do we do? Yeah. I want to move to L.A. That'd be, I want to get a sponsor to like a new scuff house in L.A.

For us to live there? Yeah. or at least like travel back and forth. You know what I was thinking? Even like around, what if we got a house somewhere, fucking Dallas or Austin or something, like a mansion?

And then we had, say we just like kept one or two apartments for like a podcast room. Fucking. And then we would all live. But like live in the house. Not gonna lie, I kind of.

Missed. I don't know if I missed I don't miss the scuff house or just hate my current or if I'm just I'm just yeah like I'm literally in the fucking like no no son whatsoever gets in my apartment

and it's like it's like depressing your room is a dungeon yeah it's depressing but like literally light can't reach my apartment yeah it like has it like cuts off Yeah. It just, because I'm in a corner and there's shit like above me. And there's like walls and the sun is hitting the walls and then you'd like sneak through and then you're in your room.

Yeah. Yeah. It's not a, I don't know. It's definitely the worst possible room you could have. You need sunlight. I really do. I don't know. I mean, that's always been, that's like something that we toyed with is, you know, what would, like the best, the best moments in optic history.

content-wise all came from a house. It all came from us being near each other or it all came from like random shit that would happen because we are by each other. And now that aspect of it is gone. And we thought that aspect wouldn't go away because we would all be together all the time anyway,

but then obviously that fell through as well. So how do we get that back? Do we need a house? Because, yeah. I think we need a house. I'm not going to live there. I feel like we need a house in L.A. that's the only thing is if we get a house i can't live there well

because sam and i can't survive that again you all want to live there who the fuck would live there we barely we barely made it through the scuff house it'd be like me bo's mike jack fucking aaron would move in with you um that would like me mike jack

Bose, Aaron Or just, Aaron could have his own apartment. Fucking Spratt. Yeah. But like, I don't know. Not, I don't miss the scuff house. But I don't like, I don't think the apartments work for what,

yeah. Well, maybe, you know, there's talks of us getting, you know, finally getting this like creative space here. and we won't be living there, but it'll be at least something. Yeah. But that being said. But that's like, that's just another piece to the puzzle. Yeah.

Because we need that on top of, like you said, at the scuff house, we were more, it was like, it was like, hey, I'm going downtown. You know, me and both, and Mike will be like, me and those are going downtown. I'll be like, I'll go if Davis will go, and you're like, fine. But here it's like someone will text the group chat like hey Anyone want to go downtown or something and like no in response But like if you if we were in a house together like face-to-face like just more shit would happen And I feel like I don't know I feel like Optic also was like optic 60-50

Created like a lifestyle like like like I remember cooking breakfast at 60-50 See, Big T walks out at like 9 a.m. I'm there with like my shirt off making eggs, like being all productive and shit. But you just living my best life. Like even prior to you getting there, like people would watch like Big T. Scump, Merck and Nade and they would just be like, man, I want to, I want to be there. I want to be in that house. I want to live there.

I want to know what it's like to be in that house. And then we move to the scuff house and explodes. Pomage comes back, you know, now we have Mike and Bose and. And people are like, man, the scuff house is dope. We were the first people to do it. Like before phase, before any of them, we were the first people to do it. And they're like, I want to be in the scuff. I want to know what it's like to be in the scuff house.

I want to know what the atmosphere is like. I want to know what they're like behind the scenes. And then we move into individual apartments. And we're never, you know, we're not seen together unless it's like, hey, be here at this time. We're going to shoot this video right now. And now it's kind of like, you know, they're just guys on camera right now. It's not like a lifestyle.

It's not like a, it's not like a, I don't, I don't. I feel like fans, this could be me, just be me talking out of my ass, but I feel like fans, even if it's subconsciously, don't think, man, I want to be in Frisco to see what it's like in their apartments individually.

You know what I mean? Like, I feel like it's different. Yeah. I saw, I think I was biased, though, with the whole idea of, like, getting apartments just because I hated this. And I only,

well, I say this now, but like, I hate, I hated the scuff house. A lot of it was because of the bathroom situation. But then besides that, like, my room was small. Yeah. It was dirty.

No one, like, ever do dishes or, you know, shit like that. But most of it was just, like, my privacy. Yeah. My privacy was, like, invaded on a daily basis. Yeah, you definitely had it. You definitely had it the worst. even me when I lived in the office for a year and a half had it better than you.

Yeah, because people don't just like calm in your room. Yeah, I could lock my door. People felt like just because it was a sliding door, it was like, oh, well, let's see what he's doing. I feel like I was the only one that could get away with that without you getting pissed. I don't know why. Dude, at what point, this is going to go a whole different way,

but at what point were you like, damn, it's just kind of my boy, isn't he? Because I don't know when that happened. Because at 60-50, we hung out. We were the only two. You're the only person I hung out with at 60-50 because I was only there for like four days. Yeah.

I remember you fucking, I don't know why I remember this. And maybe it'll stick with me forever. But just like coming out of the master bedroom, overlooking the balcony to the living room, and you're just like on the love sack sleeping. Yeah. And on probably on like,

no sleep practically. But. Because I drove. That's like my first memory of you. Actually, that might have been when Hex flew me there. Because Hex flew me there. I stayed there for like five days,

or I stayed there for three days. Then we went to Nola. Yeah. So it was during that time where I didn't have anywhere to sleep. So I was just sleeping on the love sack. And then one time I just like, you were like, you can sleep up here because there's an extra bed.

Because it was four. Did you sleep up there? Yeah, because it was foursbells bed. I forgot about that. So I went up there, I went up there, and I, like,

open the door, and you were listening to Brise and Taylor. You were listening to... Trapsol. You were listening to Trapsol. And it was, like, on fairly loud. And I was just, like, trying... It was, like, dark.

So I was, like, trying to figure out where the bed was. And then I hear you, you're like, can you sleep with the music on? And I was like, yeah, I don't... I don't mind. You're like, all right. Word.

And then we're just kind of, like, like, late there. Dude, me and Crim Six had some good talks up there. Yeah, you told me that. Like deep shit, right? Well, not like, probably. I don't really remember, but I just know we'd like, it's fucking 3 a.m. And we're both just laying on our fucking full beds talking to each other.

Both of you guys got done screaming for the entire day. You'd like tell me girl problems and shitty seven. Dude, in single Ian girl problems was the best Ian. Like, I love Dana. And they're great for each other. Like, cool. I'm glad you guys are happy with your dogs and shit. But people don't know what it's like.

Because when you see Ian, you just think either goofy or overconfident douchebag. Like, those are Ian. Goofy and hysterical or overconfident douchebag. You know what I mean? Like, those are the two vibes. You never see vulnerable because I have a crush on a girl. And I don't know if she likes me back. And like, I remember.

one day, I remember one day, because it was like, weird, like, getting accustomed to being friends with all you guys. And, uh, and Ian, I'm just down downstairs in the kitchen of the scuff house, just making, making something. And Ian walks down 4 a.m. And he's just like making something, stealing somebody's food, stealing someone's water. And he goes, hitch, man, I'm in love. And I just looked over and I was like, what? He was like, hit up my ex. We've been talking. And it's bad, man. I'm in love. And I was like, what? He, He's like, we're going to, it's bad. And then he walked back up and they were dating the next week.

It's fucking hilarious. I remember Ian came down and was like saying something about him talking to his ex. And I was just like, Dana. And he was like, yeah. And I was just about to DM her. And like I was joking, but I don't think I actually was joking. I think I was like kind of serious. I was like, man, that was my next.

That was next on my list. That was hilarious. dude. Yeah. Now they've been together since. Yeah. So you never answered my question. You just answered the first memory.

At what point were you like... Because I remember Mike told me before I realized. Mike was... We were all sitting in the garage and I had just gotten... I had just gotten back from like Christmas break. And Mike was like... We were all sitting out there just talking. And then Mike goes, man, Hitch can't...

wait for Nick to get back. And I just looked up at him and I was like, what? I mean, that was a thing. Hex would say that shit all the time. He would like cause gay and shit. Where's your boyfriend? Yeah. What the hell?

I forgot about all of that. I think it was just like, I think we forget how many days we'd wake up. It'd be like, it would vary from two, from 1 p.m. to 6 p.m. Of what time we're both up and it's just like food. Food? Yeah Then take the jeep somewhere It's like coldest shit out

Dude we always had a rotating third We all we how many rotating third TJ Air Formal Seth Snake bite Snake bite

Dude we had We had many third wheels Who was our Who was our best road Who was our best third Um TJ Dude

Yeah For sure Yeah Dude I Well the thing is they all had different vibes. It was either...

T.J. was the most like us. For sure. But then there was also like formal who was like a, you know, us, but like with a dash of psychopath. And that was always fun. Yeah. And then there was T.J.

Or PJ who was us with a dash of, I'm a saint. Or an old man. Whatever you want to... Then there's Aaron. Aaron. Who's not like us at all.

It's just a fucking weirdo. It's just weird. And then Seth is just goofy as hell. Yeah, I'd say TJ. Yeah. T.J. wins that. Fuck, man. IP.

Do we have outro music? Fuck. Do you want to go to Worlds? There's a possibility. Where is it? Seattle. That didn't help. Yeah.

You were like, whoa. Yeah. Whoa. So in Seattle. But they're doing, they're doing Halo Worlds. and then the very next week,

there's a cot event in Seattle. So Seattle for a week? Yeah. I might, there's a possibility that I might be getting hired freelance to shoot the Tox team at Worlds, which is X-Optic.

I don't know. I got a call today. I was like, would you get high? Would you be down? And I was like, what do you mean? I'd probably do it for free. Yeah. It was like my best friend, like two of my best friends in the scene.

P.J. and T.J. Oh. And then also Frosty and Royal, too, they're cool. But they just never lived in this house. I wonder what they're trying to. I know what's happening, but I just can't, like, talk about it. Yeah. I mean, anyone with a brain knows what's happening.

But, I mean, I wouldn't. It would literally just be a freelance thing and just to go chill with them. And just to hopefully watch them. win their third ring. What took to do in Seattle? Dude, it's weird. I don't know why. Fish shit.

I don't know. Like fishing stuff. Fish. What started to do in Seattle? Fish. Ian was telling me that there's... I don't know if it was just... Good places.

I don't know if it was just B.T.H. But like, every time I was in Cali, it was like, there was all... We always something to do. Yeah. Like sometimes you would just want to chill, but like, we've done some, some stuff. There's definitely a lot of stories from that's spawning. And it was just like, I remember me, Ace, T.J. And APG were just literally traveling from hotel to hotel every single day,

just figuring something new out every day. Just like, you know, with different people. It'd be like 12 or one. And we were just out there for a week with like, and we didn't even plan on staying out there. but we did. We were just like, let's just fucking, we're just literally bouncing from like hotel to hotel each.

And we could have just said, hey, can we have this hotel for, but it was like, no, I'm not paying for all of it. And then you guys aren't going to pay me so like for someone would only buy one night. That's when you guys were in Optic, right? You guys were in Optic playing,

practicing out of Cali in that little arena. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I wish I was there for that. But that was when all the Optic fans were like, wanted my head on a spike because I wasn't putting CS in vision enough and I was just putting Halo and caught in it so I had to focus on CS for a little while and then I had you shoot interviews with you and APG whenever you and APG yeah what the fuck holy shit that's fun man good times I was thinking about it today

and there are so many people in esports that spawned out of halo that came from halo like Like even, well, even just MLG. Maven. Yeah. Like, Maven, Gandhi, all of MLG. All of MLG. So yeah, like, it's like, Sundance. Without HALA, there is no MLG.

That shit's crazy. It's crazy that I, like, I don't know. MOG is like still going. Yeah. Like, I feel like, I don't know, me and I've, like, barely talked to Adam. Sunday into them, but we have like a we're like close

so now. It's like whatever you see. I feel like they'd have my back. Yeah. And I'd have their back. Yeah. It's just like a respect thing. Yeah. Like we both grew from like this little Yeah. I think that's I think that that's the coolest, that's the, that's the coolest part about Halo.

Halo is the closest community that I've ever seen to the smash community. Because the smash community has been around since 2002. Yeah. And they're playing the same game that came out in 2002. So they don't bicker because at the end of it, at the end of it,

they know how special their situation is playing that game. So they literally support each other and all they do is talk about the past. They talk about the second set, fourth stock, whatever happened on final destination, Fox First, Marth and, you know, like I said, 2007 at this one event. And instead of every, like, and nobody dislikes each other and everybody's like dude i remember that i was watching it i was in the third row back and when you hit that spike i was like and like listen to people say that and then

listening to the halo scene it's just like dude oddball fucking i don't know any maps it's like like like that's like whenever i went to packs with you guys um or with the the halo team and you you it was like the last halo event that you went to and you were like all gathered in one hotel room one there was like 12 guys in one hotel room all drinking like Hennessey I don't know what we were doing and uh just talking about Halo and I was sitting in there like drunk just nerding the fuck out just this is like this is the coolest shit like this is the kind of stuff that like people would kill to be a fly on the wall for that's what I'm saying like the halo the halo community is so special dude the Kai community is weird they don't do

they don't like in Halo it's like at the end of the event like everyone hangs out together yeah god it's like it's so separated I think it's very like egotistical clicky

and it's like people are clicky they have their own groups that are different from their team like you'll see two people from the same team hanging out with their group while one person while the other two on the other team

are like off with other people it's like but in Halo it's like everyone And it's like the old heads, like hang out with the new guys. Like Wes was in there talking about like, I guess you and Wes were in there talking about fucking 2008 tournaments while, you know, B and, uh, wow, what's his name? Be's teammate. Uh, Kevin? Yeah.

Eco. Yeah. Kevin. That's just how I know his name. And, uh, the, only, they were in there, like, listening. And they were just like, dude, I remember watching that as a fan. It's like crazy. That's like for the most part

That's how melee is too Because I don't know There's really good days Do you see that Splice Beat him? Beat them but they came back From losers

Yeah I heard they four owed them Twice or something What? I didn't even see that I watched I watched the guys win The winners finals

But I didn't I didn't watch Grands I heard splice beat them Is it four? I guess in two best of sevens. Two best, yeah, is it best of seven? Yeah, I think it is best of seven.

So I heard they beat them 40, 4.0? Jesus. That's crazy. I wonder if they were like close games. I heard that, yeah, I think they were close. They were?

Yeah, apparently they were really close. That shit's crazy. I never thought that they would count. A little fucking young guns. But, I mean, it is, it literally is the perfect four. for... Spice?

Yeah, is the perfect... I don't watch enough to really be able to say, but... I think we used to say that to Stellar when he was here. It was like, how long until you... Like, how long until you team with Eco? Or, no, it wasn't Eco. It was his other friend at the time. I can't remember.

Because we were like, you're going to team with this guy, Eco, and Hooke. And you're going to make a young gun squad. Which is basically what he did, but he did it with running. instead and Shotsie. Damn. Fucking

stellar and cleat at the house. Laning. The peak of Halo 5? We, we peaked Halo 5. Wait, what? Me and you. Whenever, the peak of Halo 5 was when you guys

were the second best team in the game leading up to you guys getting 13-0 by PJ and TJ. That was the peak of Halo 5. Dude. Oh my. or the last chance qualifier, Mike's stream, might have been the peak of Halo 5. I'm going to just say this.

People will say, like, even back then, if I wasn't fucking uploading, people would be like, what are you doing? Yeah. Fucking not uploading. But like, I was a Halo pro. Yeah. And even though I wasn't winning championships,

like people would be like, this, the Halo team won't, championships and blah, blah, blah. Mania. Whatever they say. And then, but it was like, my team was top 12 fighting for top eight. And Mike had like 28,000 live viewers. Yeah.

Halo events, like, don't get that. Halo events don't even get that. They get, they like struggle to break 10. Yeah. The last event I was watching, they had like four point. 5k watching like a regular loser's finals or some shit it was just like people don't understand like yeah they fucking win championships and everyone love them and like I consider them like the opta calo team yeah but like it's more than that what do you mean it's more like I'm just championships aren't

everything yeah it's basically what I'm saying I don't really understand there was probably some point to that, but I forget. But I was just thinking back of like how crazy was like we were like fighting to like keep a top eight spot. And fucking he has 25,000 viewers for last chance qualifier. And people were so people were like, would you say people were more into that Halo team or just me and Mike playing Halo? 100%. A thousand percent. See, I knew that.

thousand percent too i just didn't want to say yeah because people well people were invested because it was the most similar team to the original optic team that blew up ever because the optic team that blew up was you know nade merkskump big t and it was all about defying the odds they dropped rambo picked up nade and they didn't know if it was going to work and then you know two years they they win umg columbus or which is like super lit and first the first thing of black ops two it breaks records first time cod ever hit 10k in a in a tournament before like 10k viewers and then it's just losing for a really long time through the rest of black ops two all the way up until ghost and that just created this dope-ass storyline for

them to win x games and that's why x games like the it's the most important is the most important time in optic history in my opinion The only thing close to it would be Cod champs and when we won E League, the CS team because, and also we followed the CS team the same way too. So it's like that that Cod team, your Halo team

and that CS team like with Terek and Mixwell, you know, they started at the bottom got, you know, had some really rocky times and then, you know, had some really awesome times too and those awesome times like came with it. But then you have this Halo team, which came in winning.

Everything. And just won like everything except they lose occasionally. Yeah. So that team wins everything. And now this Gears team wins everything. And it's like, I'm super glad we have them. And I love those guys. And they do have a cool-ass dynamic as an Optic fan.

You know, I feel like being a fan of Optic is like being a fan of like alumni college. Like my dad was the biggest ECU fan on the face of the planet. And sometimes we'd be terrible at football. Horrible. Like one in nine seasons. And then he'd be like three more months till baseball season. And then in baseball season, we'd be top 10 in the country. And I feel like that's what it's like with Optic.

Like Optic fans aren't like TSM fans. CSM fans are fans of the League of Legends TSM team. Optic fans are fans of Optic. If our CS team sucks, they're like, well shit, might as well watch Dota. Hopefully we can do good today. And that's how, that's how like, and I think that mentality started during your years,

or your year in Optic. Like, was it weird too? Because you played under Optic Halo for like a couple months, half a year maybe prior to me getting there? I moved in. Do you know when you moved in? I moved in on Halloween Day, uh, 2016, 15, 2015. 2015?

I think I moved in, damn, I either moved in March. I moved in January 5th. I moved in March. I just don't know if it was that year. I don't know if it was 2014 or 2015. Right. I think it was... Actually, I don't know.

I don't know. Because I didn't know you very well, like, from content. Because you obviously blew up when you threw up on the floor. When did we move? Halloween Day. We moved when you got there. Yeah. I didn't have a...

I didn't have a room at... So I think I was there for... Like six months, right? No. I was... Damn, how don't I remember this? I feel like I was there for almost two years. that's not right.

Because Crimsex moved out. Nade shop moved out. I don't think all that happened in... Or, Crim Six didn't... Yeah, there's no way all that happened in six months. Natechop moved out. Scumpt moved in.

Maybe like nine months. It wasn't two years. I would put money down on that. I don't know. But regardless... I'm just trying to think from March, March to November. Nade shop moved out,

Skump moved in, Crimpsix eventually didn't, I don't think lived in the master with me anymore and I had it all to myself. I feel like it had, that would have had to have been longer than nine months. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't remember.

I would just have to look at my first YouTube video because after that I moved in weeks later. Yeah. Well, regardless, whenever you were playing under Optic Halo prior to me getting there there like wasn't like you said you were in stream

for like 30 viewers and they just have your like 40 viewers and shit that's when like who was around Jay Spirit stick bros I don't know if you know any of these people and it was just like

you guys would just go compete and come back and it's like you guys would be supported still probably the most of actually at that point you guys probably weren't even the most supported team at halo it's still probably e.g right like roy and royan lunch and ola in them probably so then you know i come in and i just like i was like the amount of potential there is crazy so the first time you know i ever shot vision i like asked you for an update on optic halo and it was just i think that's when it all started i can't really remember when optic halo because

became like cool. Because at first it was just like, oh, you know, we don't need Mike as a coach anymore. At first it was we don't need Mike as a coach anymore because Big T retired and he's going to be coach. So now what does Mike do? Fitness. Oh, he wants, Halo's coming back because MCC is here. Hex always tells Mike he failed because Hex is still fat.

And he was like, I brought you on board for one reason. And you failed. I'm still fat. But, but, like, I remember at the very beginning, like, it wasn't even an East, like, Optic Halo wasn't even, like, an Eastport team in Optic. It was like Mike's team, you're right? Yeah. It was like. Pretty much.

Yeah. Like, it wasn't even. Yeah, I remember when I first moved in, I'm trying to think of when it started, like, booming. Because that was way before salaries, wasn't it? Yeah. Way before salaries. Other, other teams started. getting salaries.

I never got paid for playing. Yeah. Because like the whole thing was just like the platform of optic or whatnot. Because that then it was like you could get away with saying, but you're on optic. Yeah. Fuck, what was it? When did it start booming? Yeah, I don't remember when it started.

Because I remember my YouTube videos we were getting like, I remember talking an aid shot. And I've said this before, but like, I'd be like, my videos are. They're only getting like 3,000 views. And when I stream, I think I get like 40 viewers live. And so, damn, man, fuck. What happened? Like how did you blow up? Nah, just too much stuff.

Just went through my head. But, but yeah, I'm wondering, like, when I did... It was the summer. It was when you threw up on the floor. No. That's when you blew up. Yes. It was my that and my birthday video. My birthday video, was that all one day? Or was that two separate? Oh, shit. I forgot. You threw up on the floor because of your birthday stream. Yeah. That was the first time I ever watched you. George, you want to, George texted me and said, dude, you have to watch Maniac. And I was like, the new optic guy. He was like, dude, he's hilarious. Look at his stream right now. And George was like watching that whole stream. Well, when I was drunk.

When you were drunk, yeah. And then, like, big, big tea comes in, like, dancing to turn off your LBS. Dude, I fucking, yeah, puked all over my floor. I drank so much. Looking back at it now, like, if you know how big a rock bottle is, there was probably only, like, three inches left of the bottle, and I drank it all by myself. Because I started off the stream doing, like, $20 shots or something.

Like, it was fucking. Something back when Twitch was cool. Yeah. And you could do that. And you were playing MCC, right? But I got like, yeah, I got like one donation. And then I don't think I ever updated it. Updated it because I got one donation.

And then I got a $1,000 donation. What? And I was like, okay. And then I just chugged that bitch. I was like, well, that covers it. And then like, I think she might have donated because it was a girl. Was a girl? Yeah.

I ended up, I thought I had to have told you this. I think you told me. Then I ended up meeting out with her and she was like hot. Yeah, yeah. I miss her. It was crazy. Dude, imagine where people like that are in the world right now. Yeah.

Like, what is she doing? I don't know. Do you think she regrets the $1,000? Nah. I think her dad was like rich as fuck. Oh, okay. Oh, I went on a date with her to some like Japanese. Damn, you dated fans and stuff.

Japanese sushi type place. but we got we got alcohol i don't know like asian alcohol what sake it wasn't i don't think it was it was some kind of like wine like sock i don't know whatever it was but we got a bottle of that we got dinner and shit and then i don't know how but she was like totally willing to pay for it all and i led her but like the bill came out of not to like $400. And you're like, well, I just got a $1,000 donation so I can pay for it. Yeah, that was definitely after the fact.

Wait, was it? I think it was, but yeah, she paid for it. That was crazy. She met like Fear itself, Tally and all them at like a house party. Damn, you introduced a girl to Fear Itself? Well, she came up. Sam's not going anywhere near Fear itself. That's funny.

but yeah damn the good old days when I could just like dude I don't do any what happened did the followers get to my head

I don't fucking imagine me like actually nah if they're hot I'd go out with them regardless I was gonna say me like going on a date

with like a fan like I wouldn't do that now but I probably I would if they were hot if they were my type at least that shit's crazy man what time is it

I'm out of fucking water and shit yeah it's 1130 you can probably wrap it up wrap it up shit I don't how do you wrap it up I don't know we like

we like because I don't even know like we didn't even have a theme we're just like kind of reminisced oh before we go I do have to just so we can clickbait this yeah I kill TSM MF did you know that

yeah but oh I did know that but he was AFK and was clapping on top of a building he said I'm gonna go get something to eat I'll be right back and then he just made his character

clap on top of the building and I just kill him and then 35,000 people were just watching me I was doing dumb shit like you know you build four walls and a roof I don't know what

do people call that a one by one yeah but like I just someone was I was in a team speak with someone they were like try to build a one by one as fast as you get just because it's like mid street 35 and I built one like fast as shit like turn whoa wall roof and then I like started doing the robot dance then everyone in the chat just like oh oh oh well oh yeah it was surprising to me

how many people were like maniac that's optic maniac I literally said I was like in my team speak I was like am I famous like because well there's a lot of people like regardless of how many followers you have or how big your pull is within an optic there's so many more that that just know the name. That just know. Yeah. That just know of you. Like you got to think at how many people I know like I don't follow you know like. Justine.

Justine but even like I'm thinking anywhere from like I don't follow like sceneators. Allie A and that's like the huge people and I also don't follow like smaller people in phase. I don't know. Do you know who gold glove is? Yeah. He'd be considered a big

what, YouTuber or a streamer? He's huge. Well, all of those guys, Gold Glove, syndicate, uh,

turn the time, man, like, all of those guys at one point ran YouTube. Like, that was their shit. And then over time,

you know, aren't as huge in YouTube anymore, but they're still like stable. Yeah. You want to a crazy thing? Well, hold on. Let me finish the gold glove story.

I, we went to some, of course, and Cali. But, go to like some mansion party. Yeah. And I think it was like an Airbnb gold glove and his girlfriend.

For, is this girlfriend Femmsteth? I think so. Or used to be. Or I don't. At the time, it might have been like 2MG. It could. It could have been some other girl. I don't know.

But I just remember going into his like, I think it was his air and B&B. Either way he was there, right when I walk in, and he was like right near the front door. And it was just like, I don't know if he said funniest guy in Optic or funniest guy on YouTube but he was like

maniac, funniest guy on YouTube what the fuck? And I was just like, I don't know who you are. I was just like, what's up, thanks man. And like later find out it's like gold glove

and he's huge. Yeah. And I had no idea. Yeah. That's kind of how I felt when Justine was like, I don't think we've ever like officially met,

but hi. And I was like, holy shit, Justin knows who I am. Justine knows I exist. Um, All right. Let's wrap this up. What were you going to say?

I was going to say something. Gold glove. You want to something crazy? You might not know this because you weren't in Cod, but Hutch, you know, Hutch used to run YouTube. He used to be the shit on YouTube. When Model Wiffor 2 came out, what's up, guys? My name's Hutch, and I make College Duty videos and post them on the internet. And he would upload...

That was his intro? Yeah, and he would upload a MonoWher 2 gameplay video. and then he would do you know he would snipe and then he would make montages and he was in Optic and then he left Optic to be his own thing his own like creator

and then he worked at Machinima he was literally the shit at one time and then he quit YouTube all together he's like I'm not gonna do this anymore I don't know I'd like I don't think I've met hudge he's a funny guy well I don't I've never like sat down

on how to drink with him or anything but I've like shook his hand and said hi to him and stuff. He, like, he, like, interviewed me one time in one of his videos. Maybe one day, Optic will be introduced to one another. Old bit of Optic meets Optic. Like, maybe even here. Dude,

Hutch, that would be the dopest documentary. A Hutch documentary. It would be, or even just like, oh, my God. Imagine a documentary. Like, you could even do this in Halo. or cod, where it's just like the founding fathers or whatever, like that kind of vibe. And you just, like in cod, it would just be, you know, seen iters, X-Jaws, only use me blade and, uh, fucking, uh, hutch, um, like interview all of them and just talk about what it was

like to like blow up the YouTube scene because they all did it. It would be, uh, yeah, get the, get the old fucks. Yeah. from like 2010. You can do it in Halo too. Oger 1, Ogre 2, Sundance, T-squared. Fucking Gandhi, Maven. That should be crazy.

Because they were ahead of their time, man. They were ahead of their time. Yeah. Them and Tupac. Them and Tupac. Maven and Tupac. Oger 1 and Tupac. Sundance and Tupac.

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