The Flycast - OpTic X TYREEK HILL | The Flycast Ep. 109

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Desist to stop doing something, especially something that someone else does not want you to do. Desist from the soldiers have been ordered to desist from firing their guns. It sounds so weird. Desist. Desist. I've never used to the opposite of the opposite of assist is desist. Okay. Maybe that's what I'm so.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Welcome back. Yeah, welcome back to another flycast episode. Episode 108. 109. 109. I think we 109 episode 109 we skipped last week
Starting point is 00:00:48 I forget why we skipped we were supposed to have a special guest as well last week was Tyree kill was here and we spent two hours doing the silent library yeah that was the busiest 48 hours of my fucking life
Starting point is 00:01:05 and then you had you had a Tyree kill dude Tyree kill I got up that night Tyree kill Why did you get fucked up? Because I was terrified, I think. Every around the bar guest I've had so far has been someone I at least know about, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:24 I know a decent amount. Because you're not even like a football fan like that. Not an NFL fan at all. So Tyreek was supposed to do an eavesdrop with Hector, but he came in a day later. And Hector had left. So Page hit me up and said, hey, Tyreek can't do an eavesdrop. Would you be down a few dozen around the bar? And it was one of those moments where
Starting point is 00:01:46 If you would have said If like, yo, we could get Ty Rieke for a flycast I don't know if I don't know if I don't know That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying Like I don't know for like I don't care I really had to look at myself in the mirror And be like
Starting point is 00:02:00 Can I do this? If you want around the bar to be Because I've been like You know I love around the bar These are the moments you have These are you have to say yes And you have to do this Not saying I didn't want to
Starting point is 00:02:14 it was just pure anxiety. Like, not because I... Oh my God. Even if you, even if we were to interview him on the flycast, I'd be like, dude, I don't know. There was that... I would be so uncomfortable because I'd just not a football fan. Yeah. I know if Tyree Kill, I've seen clips of him on the internet.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I know he's a great receiver. I know he's like the fastest in the NFL. I know he's Cheetah, whatever. Yeah, yeah. But besides, like, I don't know... Football. I don't know football. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Well, I know. I mean, I'm a football fan. I just don't watch the NFL. I know the basics. I wouldn't know where to begin. There was an opportunity like two months ago where our sales team was selling to a company that works very closely with Gronk. And they were like, hey, we put in the deck to pitch to this company that if they get an episode of around the bar and maybe Gronk could be on around the bar.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And it was two months out. They were like, this won't happen for like two months. And I got anxious. anxious as hell. Just hearing that. Because I'm like, dude, gronk, like, it would be... But again, that's one of those situations.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Wait. Tight end? Yeah, I was gonna say that was his, right? Yeah, yeah. And it's just like, those are, that's one of those moments where it's like... Tom Brady's duo. You got to just do it.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Because I, like, around the bar is like the long play for me. Uh-huh. So, yeah, did one with Cheetah. then come in in the morning at 10 a.m. And we stayed up until like 2 a.m. Drinking. Drinking and doing a podcast. I don't drive after.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I took an Uber. I drove here, took an Uber back, took an Uber back to the office at 9 a.m. Hung over. I'm just pounding waters. We do two content pieces here. Both go over time. So we had to get, we had to chalk the flycast. and then I do another around the bar
Starting point is 00:04:13 the very next day with Thesaurus and Ilmec So the day you were hung over Yeah I didn't drink in that one I was just pouring yeah I was pouring I was pouring and like hoping no one would notice Really? Yeah they were both drinking and I was like pouring for them And then when I poured for me I just didn't put alcohol in it
Starting point is 00:04:32 It was just like orange juice Dude when I don't see I don't know how people Like I would be even more anxious hungover like I don't know how you I don't know how you came back the next morning and like did what me had me was it hot when we were doing that
Starting point is 00:04:50 dude it had to have been 80 degrees in the fucking room over there yeah and because it was I think after a certain time here the AC shuts off because normal people that work in normal office buildings are gone by five and we were starting up
Starting point is 00:05:06 podcast at seven dude at one point I was hung over drinking orange juice or maybe like a diet soda talking to the source of ilmac we were two hours in and I'm like dude I might pass out just just just like so what was it like during the w rap and just like fall over yeah I don't know how you fucking I would have had to just drink again I would have came back the next morning because I didn't know the secret that if you just drink drinking if you just keep drinking if you just drinking, the hangover goes away. And I miss and I wish I knew this during the the phase shoot. Shoot. Yeah, like the phase shoot the phase collab. I think I was so because I was so hungover.
Starting point is 00:05:51 During I was so hungover. I was like, dude, I was like so anxious, so uncomfortable. Like I wasn't like. Turn the mono for two thing. The mono for two shoot. The day after we went to Salinas. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that was the worst day of my life. Bro. If I knew the secret, all I had to do was like forced myself to take like two shots chug a beer and like sip on beer the rest of the time like i would have been good it was so bad but i didn't know the fucking secrets it was fucking crazy i um i watched i probably listened to like an hour of it the elmack and the sorosos elmack one is good i yeah elmack was ill max really good or i mean both of them just seemed like comfortable yeah i mean they're talking about what they love what they love yeah but yeah elmack
Starting point is 00:06:36 it was awesome i i i think think I think my plan for around the bar right now is going pretty well where, you know, I do one to try to get views and then I do one for me. Uh-huh. That one's one for me. Yeah. Not saying that they're not going to get views. I'm just saying that like.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Hopefully like the battle rap. I don't know if they do podcast. Yeah. The battle rap scene loves, they love the Mike P. episode and they love this one too. The paintball scene loved. I did one with Ronnie Dizahn. He's a professional paintball player.
Starting point is 00:07:06 The paintball scene loved that one. Really? Like, loved it. So crazy. Same with, like, I did a Mango episode and then the yard guys, they're big into, like, the Super Smash Brothers. They, they, I love seeing, like, other scenes take it and run with it. What, man? I need a water.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Go get a water, man. Do the ad. He's already back. He's already back me, head. He tried popping the ad out. Damn, man. Can I have you going? 10 seconds um i was i don't know why i didn't but like i planned on like because i was talking to
Starting point is 00:07:54 omack before and i was like i'm like come or like i like yeah let's hang out but that also happens with everyone that happens with everyone that comes in yeah like yo let's hang out like yeah like even if like daltushes in town is like yeah for sure i'm deaf down i'm deaf down i'll be sure to come you're in bed like dallas and but yeah said that to oh And then he got here and I was just like first I was here and I knew he'd like be in the area or whatever within like in like two hours. I was like, dude, I'm not going to sit here and just like wait two hours to like meet Ilmac. Like yeah, I want to I need to go home and, or let me go home and stream maybe tonight come back hang out. But like by the time I go home stream.
Starting point is 00:08:40 That's that. And then yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're cool. They're cool.
Starting point is 00:08:45 They're cool. They're cool. They're so cool, they're cool, ass fucking dudes. And I've been watching, I've been watching them battle for damn near 15 years. I tried to, I think I told them my time. I was like, I don't think you understand like how much, like, I've been watching you guys and your 2v2s in like 2006. Yeah, like that's damn near 20 years.
Starting point is 00:09:05 They are like the, I don't want to say ogre one and ogre two. No, that's a great. That's a great comparison. Yeah, that's a great comparison. They've been doing. this since the beginning. Dude, they've been on top since the beginning. And they were like, I say it in the episode, but you know how the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:09:24 the, the chest, like, boomed in 2020 after Queen's Gambit came out. Yeah. They were wrapping. They were battle wrapping before eight mile. Think about that. They were, 2008 mile come out. 2005, 2004. Damn.
Starting point is 00:09:42 They were wrapping. They, they, they were battle wrapping before. They were. They were like, what, in 2002? What? No, I'm pretty sure. You know, like, Marv 1? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Marv 1 and, like, Quest McCodey. I'm pretty sure they, like, auditioned to be in this and also, like, co-written this. No. I'm pretty sure. Marv 1? I think they, like, did tryouts to, like, be in them. What? It was either Marv 1 or, like, Quest McCodey did, like, tryouts to, like, to be someone they
Starting point is 00:10:14 battled against or, like, something like. crazy um but yeah to like be in that movie but god damn 2002 but like yeah like oh mcandosaurus they've been doing this but like scribble scribble jill scribble jim was happening in 96 or like no shit really juice and juice and eminent battled they they talk about in the podcast juice and eminent battled in 99 so juice and eminent battle in 99 were they fans of like juice and like like wait juice and emm battled in 99 99 99. 99. Didn't Eminem make his infinite album in like 98 or something? 99?
Starting point is 00:10:53 Like around the same time? They talk about it like at the beginning. Oh, 1997 was Eminem versus Jew scribble Jim. It says it right there. But yeah, because I was like, you guys are kind of like the first wave of battle rapping. Like you guys have seen every generation. And they were like, no. There was like a generation before us.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And then I started remembering idea and all that. And I'm like, oh, dude. They're like the maniac. and like yeah the second wave the second wave yeah yeah and uh
Starting point is 00:11:24 and they uh that's what I was trying to explain it to George and uh George is like is it kind of like the big timers and I'm like it's like big timer if he still played if he was still playing
Starting point is 00:11:37 yeah literally it's like APG yeah APG is the only APG is the only APG's when going to event since 2006 yeah almost 20 it's 20 24 dude what when it comes to when it comes to the last couple weeks like
Starting point is 00:11:55 with this whole drake and kindrick cold future shit and then also like doing a three hour battle rap podcast dude I've been on my rapity rap shit lately like just like just listening to it
Starting point is 00:12:11 do you ever go through ways where everything you look at you multi in your head no yeah maybe maybe back in like 20 17. Yeah. It only happens to me like once a year. But I'm doing that right now. You've been on your rap-dy-rap.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Dude. You're on some freestyle in the shower shit and you're like, oh my God. Yes. Bro, I've spat the hardest shit in the shower. Same. In my head. In your head. And then you go, oh, but in reality, your brain doesn't calculate the filler.
Starting point is 00:12:39 So you're just like, step to his face. I'll put this bitch in his place and. And then I'm like, oh, it's been this. The race. That was fucking hard. It was actually fucking, if you were to actually say it out loud. It would sound horrible because your brain doesn't do the like filler. Just the little mini words in between.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Dude, I started watching like the old school scribble jam. So if you guys don't know, scribble jam is kind of like Woodstock for hip hop culture. So you go there. It was in Ohio back in the day. I think it was in Ohio. And it's, it's like a DJ competition, a freestyle rap competition. There's, uh, break dancing. There's graffiti.
Starting point is 00:13:26 It's a bunch of, it's like a convention for hip hop. And, um, I wonder if Hax was a fan. Hex went. Oh, really? Yeah, he painted. He painted, he painted at school jam. Really? No way.
Starting point is 00:13:37 That's like the coolest shit. That's fucking hilarious. And, uh, yeah, Cincinnati. Um, and it was like one of the first places where like national, like, they said that Thesaurus said that at one point there was 8 to 10,000 people watching the battles which is
Starting point is 00:13:55 dude that's like five times as many people that watch in the venue now unless it's like a crazy URL stage. And now you'll see like a packed house and that's still not even like dude a packed house is like 2000 yeah like 1500 people um
Starting point is 00:14:12 so we started watching some of them and back in the day it was almost all freestyle Like nowadays You had your You had your shit in your pocket Yeah you had some shit like just in case Right But it was almost all freestyle
Starting point is 00:14:30 And how how battle rap is now Is is three chunks Of written material That are three-ish minutes long So you practice and you perform it And then you call time And the next person goes But how it
Starting point is 00:14:47 it's a cappella. How it used to be is over a beat and you only rap for a minute and then they call time and the beat continues to play and the other person starts to go. And so it's very, very fast pace. Obviously the words that's being said aren't nearly as good because it's not written, but the talent is unbelievable. Yeah. Like going back and watching it, it's crazy that almost any art form that's over 15 years old, if you watch it now or competition, If you watch it now, you're like, uh, yeah. Okay. Well, like, like Halo gameplay 15 years ago compared to watching bound play is completely different.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Right. But like going back and watching, dude, it's, there's a, there's a battle that they talk about in the podcast that I. God, I would have fucking, I should have just, I should have like co-joined for 30 minutes. I would have love that, dude. I would have love that. But also Ilmec said he wants to come on the flycast, so. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:51 He'll come back. At one point, I say like, you know, what's the one time? Because they've been friends forever. It was like, what's one time you guys have seen the other person solo perform and you're like glad you're in their corner. And Ilmec said it was like the semifinals of 2006 Scribble Jam and it's Justice versus thesaurus. And I had seen the battle.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I hadn't seen it so long. I went back and watched it. Dude, it, it's the most absurd shit. I kind of want to watch it. I'm down to watch it. Yeah, pull it up me head in a second. Dude, because justice is like this. He's a, he's an Australian.
Starting point is 00:16:34 No, no, no. You, I feel like you can spell justice, right? Yeah, I hope so. He couldn't, he tried to spell cannabis and it didn't go well. But he's also dyslexic. Thesaurus Can I bus? It's a
Starting point is 00:16:51 It's a black and white video Um Dude Dude some of their 2v2s Like sometimes like Ilmac would just like you could tell like kind of struggling And then it goes the sor and the source Was drop a fucking dude What is the what is the one where he was
Starting point is 00:17:10 Uh Uh Oh dude At one point Jay's Juice, Frankie Wax. Justice, not juice, justice. At one point My eyes are bad.
Starting point is 00:17:26 At one point, Thesaurus and one of those 2v2s is like, hat and gnome and tats are gone. And then he kind of stumbles. And thesaurus comes in and goes, I'll hit you with more brass and chrome than a saxophone. And I was like, what? fuck. Yeah, like sometimes they would be like trying to come up with something and then they couldn't,
Starting point is 00:17:51 but the other person had it in their head would jump right in and clutch the fuck up. Dude, this shit is fuck. So justice wins this battle. But. Oh, really? But the sort, dude, he, first of all, the source kind of got, because in scribble jam, it's kind of like people that are just there. Like they're not battle rap fans.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I watch like a, I watch Roan break this down. And Roan is like, dude, in scribble jam, if you don't say a pop culture reference, or if you don't say like, uh, your gay bar, because there's so many gay bars. And like, if you don't say that, if you don't,
Starting point is 00:18:23 because it's eight, 18 years ago. They were doing the, the video I was watching where, uh, was, uh, was, uh, was, uh,
Starting point is 00:18:30 roan, uh, like, uh, avocado and all that, you know, the guy who, like,
Starting point is 00:18:34 records all the battles. Uh, they were, they did, they did a watch party with it, like going back and watching Scribble jam. And they would, they would drink every time someone said the F,
Starting point is 00:18:43 the F slur because it's, 18 years ago. I remember in like fifth grade, I used to like the whole like you're gay. I always said a thing. I used to tell people like, I think I may have started that. You did not start it. It was such a like it turned into such a thing. And I was like such.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I think everyone was just like such a part of it. Oh my God. And what it's turning to do now is just. All right. you can hit play on it. Wait, pause. What did Ilma,
Starting point is 00:19:25 Elmack said like this is one of the sources like favorite? No, he said this is, uh, Ilmack said this is the best display of freestyle hip hop ever, ever recorded. That's what this battle. Oh,
Starting point is 00:19:38 this battle. This battle is a whole, but he said, because what, the beat plays consistently. And he said, usually for Scribble Jam, you would do your,
Starting point is 00:19:49 16 and then you would end it on he they kept using podcast as the the rhyme scheme he said you would end it on damn you got a dumb podcast and then it was the other person's time to go and they'd be like oh yo all right okay oh you said i got a podcast well your mom's fat you know what i mean but but for this looks like a yeah but he said but for this the source would end uh you like like a podcast and justice would go podcast your mom's fat like immediate and he said that they did that it was like sparring back and forth dude the source this shit is fucking insane in this i can't believe he lost i haven't seen this all right i don't think dude that's no can do right there dude i have seen this jesus christ justice is served i know what's
Starting point is 00:22:02 A less distinguished version of an English person. God. Oh my God. Yeah. All right. You can pause it. I mean, I would say he did lose.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Then they go. I mean, I mean, they go again. They go again two more rounds. And in thesaurus's last round, he kind of, he doesn't stumble,
Starting point is 00:22:54 but it's very, it's not, it's not as like direct. And so, and that's what they were saying, like in Scribble Jam, if you, If you don't go, if you don't say a, a, like, like, this is America bitch and here justice is serve.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'm spitting these words. Like, that's not the craziest punch, but it wins the crowd. Yeah. Which is like all that scribble jam was about. But, uh, dude, uh, these words that I'm serving that's just a less distinguished version of an English person is fucking insane. That is, dude. And, uh, one. of those he was like um you know i'm you're he probably said like you're gay mate and he was like uh
Starting point is 00:23:40 Australia that's why you're you're from Australia that's why you're punches land a day late which is hard yeah and then justice goes a day late uh I'm not even feeling you or something like I'm not even feeling you that though yeah I am a day late that explains your mother's period which is fucking insane like just immediate, Bam, bam, bam.
Starting point is 00:24:04 They're so good. They're insane. And it's 18 years ago. 18 years. What's crazy is, didn't they say, um, Juice is like the guy who beat Eminem.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah. Which like I watch, I feel, I think I watched that battle where juice is like this freestyleer who's like, the best freestyleer ever and blah, blah, blah, blah. And was like,
Starting point is 00:24:25 I guess he won a bunch of scribble, I don't, I don't want the scribble jams. Yeah, I guess he won like a bunch of scribble jam freestyle battles. Uh, you look up Scruble Jam winners. But he was like known for beating Eminem, and I think that's how I heard of him.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And I heard Ilmec say, or maybe both of them said that, um, Juice was like the best freestaller ever. Like even like to this day. Ilmec said he talked to him last year and he's still unbelievable. Yeah. Like he just the way that did, he said they like went on like a podcast or something. Yeah. So in 97.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Yeah. So Juice, Juice beat Eminem in finals in 97. Imagine, imagine Eminem. Wait, are these the winners? These are the winners. Yeah, yeah. Oh, damn, Ilmacula won in 2004. God, he won 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Yeah, he was 17. The Soros won in 2006 and 2008. Yeah. No can do one. Mac Lethal who still do, I think MacLethel makes like YouTube videos now. But he was like popular. Idea one, which is like, that's a Hector's goat. But yeah, I think it's crazy juice one in 97.
Starting point is 00:25:32 If Juice lost that in 97, fucking that says Eminem. Was that the finals? That was the finals. How fucking crazy is that? I would like to see all Eminem's battles like before that. It's just insane. I mean, dude, the, I love. It's funny because like, like, like freestyle hip hop is not like a thing anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:01 besides like Harry Mac doing it on Omigal Which I was gonna sit Whenever whenever Ilmaq said that I was thinking is he better than Harry Mac Harry Mac's insane Harry Mac is unbelievable And like I don't know if there's a close second
Starting point is 00:26:17 But I guess I need to hear like more juice or something I mean Harry Max The juice doesn't like put anything out The thing with Battlers They're kind of like I want to know I want Ilmax opinion on Harry Mac I'm sure he thinks he's like insane and shit
Starting point is 00:26:33 But like when he says juice is the best Maybe it maybe it just depends I think he's the battle style battler I think battler's like you know like You know when like your friend says Your friend says like oh my friend's good at Halo And it's like Shut the fuck
Starting point is 00:26:48 Your friend's not good at your friend might be good at Halo But he's not I know the best Harry Mac is probably I bet you when Battlers see Harry Mac They're like yeah he's amazing at freestyling But he could never be on stage with my my man no can do he would get torn apart you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:27:04 like they ride for their own um but Harry Mac is insane I'd love to have Harry Mac on fucking around the bar I think I'm getting cocky though I had Dorsors and Ilmac and Tyree Kill probably reach out of like Harry Mac Harry Mac Harry Mac I could probably hit up Taylor Swift probably is doing a press tour yeah she's she just really goes on Toro if she wants to you know we're not knocking out a solid 15K views over here. Maybe Paige could pull some strings.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Page already has. She's a fucking real one. Really? Yeah. I'll tell you who after. Really? It's fucking insane. Is it who I think?
Starting point is 00:27:43 No. It's not Selena. Okay. Yeah, right. Damn, who could it be then? It's pretty sick. Is it an artist? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Okay. And you're saving it? You don't want to. I mean, if it works out, she just, she just like linked this up. Yeah. So, but I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Page is always a, Page is a fucking real one. Page has connections. She has connects. Even like, Paige is. I don't know how like Paige has her connections and then like her best friend has their connections and like. It's LA, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Like, it's assistant for Kim K and Kanye and then knows best friends with. It's great. People don't know. It's funny because like she would, she was, she's probably going to get mad. I'm even saying this. But Paige's dating history is. fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Really? It's fucking nuts. It's pretty fucking sick. She's like, fuck that guy. And now when I see him on national TV all the time, I'm like, yeah, fuck that guy. We don't rock with him. Damn. We cheer for the other team.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I heard of like one guy. I heard of like one guy and she told me some like fucked up story about like, I'm not even going to say like what it's about. No, she's got, she's lived a crazy life. But yeah, I'm on, I'm on a crazy. She's lived a crazy life. I'm on some fucking rapidy rap shit now. To the point where before doing the Thesaurus and I'mac around the bar,
Starting point is 00:29:09 obviously it was the disc tracks were coming out. And like I know now by this point I know like that by heart. I know pushups by heart. I haven't listened to him like I've listened to him. And I don't know what it is. Like I'm not I'm not even on rap shit. I haven't been on rap shit in like two years. years I feel like yeah but I do enjoy this these moments so it's like like even
Starting point is 00:29:36 before doing this I was like let me I didn't need a fucking like I've Taylor made I probably listened to two more times on the way driving here so and then and then push-ups was is the other one I probably only listen to that like three four times it was like I'm not like what I use I would if if this came out in the scuff house This came out in the scuff house. We would have been so obnoxious. Imagine how much we would have... Imagine what we would have done to Pam.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Like, we would have went to Target, bought like size seven shoes and shit. Put him in his room. Get like the push-up, the push-up thing. Like take his shoes, replace him with just some little like size seven. Like, oh my God. It's been, I don't know. I'm just like...
Starting point is 00:30:28 I, I, this is the only rap I've been, like, I don't care about the new little baby. I don't care about if the baby has a album, I don't, some other baby, some other little. I don't, like, I just haven't like, me neither. But like, I do enjoy these moments. I do care. It's weird. I, I, there's so much talk about the big three. But in reality, that's the only three I really care about when they drop.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I don't give a shit. I don't care about anyone else. I will say I'm very excited about Chance the rapper's new album because it seems like he's rapidy rapping again And I don't know if we've heard from Chance since You're not Archinip I feel like he's on that song
Starting point is 00:31:11 He did the fucking His last album got Pretty bad publicity So he kind of took a break Because the Dude I I liked his last album People call me crazy Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:25 Because he like wrapped about he was like very introspective about it and wrapped about his marriage a lot and people like didn't like that they wanted him to rap about killing people and selling drugs that's so much better but now but i think when chan side note when chance the rapper is like going he's like top five for me in my my i know that top five all time i did have a stint of enjoying him do the way he can you uh uh me hey can you can you go to chance the rapper's Instagram the way he goes the way he right he he hits his multi-syllables is like smooth and the it's like the best it's like like very few hit like multis like he does
Starting point is 00:32:12 i think like jack harlowe can do it the the first one where it says ride very few can hit Monty's like he does. No. Jack Harlow. I'm not saying they're the fucking best. I'm saying the smoothness in how they rap. It's like it's not someone out there. Their top five is like chance.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Jack Harlow. Fucking. I'm trying to think of. No. Dude, Jack Harlow. Jack Harlow is good. Jack Harlow is fucking good.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It's not like he's what he's us. if we didn't do this gaming shit. He's not, he's a white kid that's not super backpacky. He doesn't rap about fucking what it's like to go to school. But it works. Yeah, he just flows. Okay, well, never mind. Wait, what was he trying to, uh, he was trying to Instagram?
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, he's a guy, he just tried. Oh. Well, Chance released something yesterday. It was like a teaser for his new album. And like, I might actually be interested. It's just like the, the way he's hitting his. his uh rhymes game is so sick i don't know what i don't know what happens to where people just like disappear and then i'd know like kid cuddy i thought was like
Starting point is 00:33:36 kid kitty was like a genius for a little bit and like anything he put out i was like yes like i need to hear this and then something just switches to where i was like i don't give a fuck no more yeah then they disappear for then it's like they disappear for five six seven eight nine 10 years and i feel like that happened with chance what is j a lot j electronica did I don't fucking know, dude. I've been wondering that since like 2008. Like, how does he make money? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I think you, dude, I have been trust me and my friend fucking Booneschetti from Hadesh out Boone Skettie from Hagerstown, Maryland. Fuck yeah, H-Town. We've been discussing this since literally 2008. Like, we were on J Electronica so long ago. Like when he was like first, putting it putting it what's his like what's his song exhibit exhibit C
Starting point is 00:34:30 song is fucking amazing it's insane then he has a song called like dimethyltropamine oh yeah play this shit we'll listen to this chance plays uh they'd be very surprised find out Harry survived
Starting point is 00:34:48 uh huh yeah uh that's the three Mary goodbye very fucking this is good chance this is fucking nuts
Starting point is 00:36:23 this is good chance I like that I like that style of rapping yeah it's not it's not a fucking super J. Coley or super like it's just if I could
Starting point is 00:36:36 rap if I could pick a way to rap I would rap like that yeah it's just it seems like he just effortlessly rides the beat and hits you know how like when we listen to like Tygo or something It's like he's riding it, but like he's not hitting, he's only wrapping one syllable with each other. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:36:54 It fucking drives me crazy. And then like sometimes they won't, they'll wrap two syllables. Like they'll. And it's like, do that all the time. Yeah. But it's like how can't they do that? And like I'm trying, like I was going to try to come up with an example with like, do that. New cat.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Boots trap. Yeah. Bootstrap. Like I can't even think of like. dude my brain won't allow me to just think a new cap like i can't think of just one syllable but like people like tiga and shit they're like they'll ride the beat and they'll sound their voice is good they have like a good rhythm good rhythm good flow but like they'll just rhyme like one and like logic will do that sometimes logic will wrap his ass off and then just rhyme like one syllable like three
Starting point is 00:37:45 bars in a row and they go back to like wrapping his ass off and then go back to it's like I don't understand how and there's maybe you can get lost in it you can get lost in it and we actually talked about in the in the around the bar ilmac was like some rappers can do it and they can do it well where like you don't even know that they're only rapping one syllable but my mind he was like my mind won't allow me to do it and there is too there it is possible to go too far yeah because if you If you go too much, if you go too far, you're not even saying anything. You're just, you get to like new M&M or like, what's the guy that? Proud, new Eminem.
Starting point is 00:38:21 What's the guy that, uh, Haxe likes a lot? A sap rock. Aesap rock. Or you're just like, like all you're doing is thinking of being that weird rhyme. You're just right. I feel like they, I feel like they wrap like this. I feel like Drake. Put them horseback and in the store tapping, horn, like, not even saying anything.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Just like all his his only point is to wrap Multi-syllibles throughout his like have you ever seen on like maybe it's like genius.com where they like show different colors Every like it's like they just want their shit they just want they want the whole thing to be colorful yeah where I like watching has a good I think Wayne's Wayne's the best yeah I mean Wayne's always Wayne is the best yeah because Wayne will do the same rhyme scheme for 50 bars. I actually like that when he doesn't switch it up. Me too. It's going. It's reinteresting me to where I'm like, wait, he's still going. He's still going. He's, we are C-A-R-T-E-R, put the B-N-E-R. I'm quarter than add another three R's. And then he does that until he gets to Schengard. He's he does that until he gets to Schengard. It's like 30 bars or something. I wonder if
Starting point is 00:39:38 everyone agrees. Like, if our, the, the, do the old heads agree yet of, like, low-ane top five? I don't know. Top five is so weird. It also depends. The more I realize, like, I want to know. We're white kids from the suburbs. So, like, our top fives don't really matter to most people in hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:39:58 To anyone. But, like, it also, like, to people are, like, their top fives matter. Like, I heard. Like, it depends on where they're from. I heard, um. I saw somebody asked Vince Staples. his top five and he said Snoop dogs is one and it's like he's a
Starting point is 00:40:12 Crip from L.A. Her grip from Like of course it really depends on where you're from. Yeah it's like I don't know I don't know which now people are going to be like that's why Drake's in your top
Starting point is 00:40:25 time because your culture is fucking Yeah you don't have a culture So of course you like you don't know about Hagerstown They don't know about it Fuck what was I going to say I think something about Snoop dog Oh I was scrolling TikTok and it was like this is from or was it
Starting point is 00:40:40 Instagram maybe it was Instagram or TikTok but it was like Snoop dogs it was just playing songs from like one of Snoop dogs albums that I like never heard I forget what it was called about I was like hold the fuck up dude I bet you there's probably so much music that's like so good and it's very I bet you it's very like geography it's like geography base too
Starting point is 00:41:03 like I saw someone say y'all might not be listening to Nas but in New York, that's all we listen to. And I think that shit's so cool. Yeah. That's how Jay Cole was in North Carolina. Like, during his mixtape days, if you were in North Carolina, you were listening to Jay Cole.
Starting point is 00:41:19 That's the only time we like, like, whenever Jay Cole released his, his, I think we're talking about the lapod, but whenever he released his debut album, like sideline story, we were all waiting on it. I feel like in Maryland, we didn't have anything. There was no H-town? Do Waleigh? Because I think he's from D.C. bro people talk about the big three now but they're they all came in around the same time it's just the three of them like had longevity but like during those days in like 2011 Waleigh and Big Sean were in that were in those talks like when ambition came out when finally famous came out like finally famous those were dude there's a song that big Sean has called Don't Tell Me.
Starting point is 00:42:07 love me. It is it is so fucking good. It is so good. And it's off of his debut album. Do you see the Big Sean Tiny Desk? Yeah. Apparently people are shitting on it. And I'm not going to lie. I listen to it. And I wasn't a fan.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Rap tiny desks? But it's also I don't. Yeah. Rap tiny desks are weird to me. But I like the um, who is it? Is it not mystical? Juvenile. The slow motion full man move with slow motion oh really like he had a tiny desk i didn't know yeah it's fucking hard i think i think after the mac millers is so perfect that i can't listen to another rap one yeah
Starting point is 00:42:50 and like tyler the creator did one too and it was fucking goofy and weird wrap or rap tiny desks are so weird to me but uh so let's get to this track what are you thinking um I wish we could just like listen to it. I mean, whenever he cuts back, we can. Um, I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:14 it's good. I think it's exactly push-ups by Drake came out. Drake did, Drake did another, like, drop the disc, no response. Four days later,
Starting point is 00:43:24 runs it back. He has a strategy to this. Um, it was good. And then four days later, he drops the Tupac Snoop Dog Drake song. What was that called again?
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Starting point is 00:45:05 dis that like almost forces Kendrick to do something but he's not using his ammo with it but he's doing it really well I thought it was really I mean it was not what I expected
Starting point is 00:45:19 I would never expect Drake to do AI with fucking Tupac and Snoop Dog to hear he did it he pulled it off and I it worked
Starting point is 00:45:35 better than like if you would tell me like bro apparently Drake's about to drop something like an AI with Tupac and Soup Dog I don't know what I think I don't know if I would think like like really what the fuck like I think I just hit play and then
Starting point is 00:45:49 started hearing and I was like wait what the fuck yeah I enjoyed it and I'm just like I already tweeted Pomage this morning again like where where's your boy yeah you're from Canada and you're going for Kendrick where's your boy that's weird isn't that
Starting point is 00:46:05 weird? Yeah. Uh, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:46:11 it's, it's, I think it's funny to hear Tupac and Snoop Dog rap like Drake. Yeah. I know that, yeah, people are talking about,
Starting point is 00:46:21 like, threatened for AI generation, but like, apparently sent, got sent a cease and assist. I don't know. It's still on YouTube. I think if Drake dropped a track
Starting point is 00:46:31 that's on Spotify called Taylor Made Feast Feast featuring Snoop Dog and Tupac, that's fucked up. Why would Tupac's camp even give a fuck? Like what he's doing, he could do with an impersonator. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:46:47 It's like, if he, if he sent a reference track to a Tupac impersonator, Tupac impersonator wrapped it and sent it back, it would be the same thing. And you don't even have to say, this is featuring Tupac or this is featuring Snoop Dog. And I think like voice filters has existed. way before AI. There's nothing artificially intelligent about what he's doing, really, that hasn't been done
Starting point is 00:47:12 before. I think if you typed in to a Google Doc or whatever and said, I need a Tupacverse, beats per minute, here's the key. And then they wrote one and sent it back. I think that would be AI. but I think using a voice filter to to wrap like your opponent's idols to talk down on your opponent I think that's been done that's been done before in my opinion but definitely been possible before yeah but I I think it was a good move you know hey Kendrick the West Coast
Starting point is 00:47:57 needs you should we listen to it will it get if you want I know I know all three of them because we talked and we said if Drake dropped something we'll be in here we'll be in here immediately and then they dropped six hours later and then I think he dropped something and you texted me like studio and I like just got done streaming it's like six just got done like making dinner at 7 p.m. a player yeah like nah or wait I think I'd listen to it on stream yeah I was in stream or you were on the watch party I was on the watch party yeah and you were like what if you not you didn't hear it yet and you were like are we doing this fucking fire class and you're just like play that i was not about to list i was not about to sit
Starting point is 00:48:39 through that whole watch party not what do you like you wouldn't even be able to focus no i would have to knowing this drake this is out there and it hasn't been a drake dis in should we push ups push ups i'm not to listen to pushups let's listen to pushups first pushups by drake because we're now a rap podcast i'm dad I've listened to this shit we don't even have to have to listen to the whole thing and people are always like yo maniac what do you think about the
Starting point is 00:49:09 Rick Ross I'm like I don't give a fuck I'm like I'm tired of him let me guess Rick Ross is going to get involved and then oh he has an album coming out in two weeks like I don't fuck Rick Ross's response fuck Kanye's response I liked Kanye's beat though
Starting point is 00:49:28 Oh Kanye's beat was it was amazing Yeah. The beat was fucking incredible. Kanye's just, dude, fuck. I don't give a fuck, Kanye. No one cares, Kanye. He did say some, a few funny bars, but like, I don't give a shit. Play J. Cole, get the pussy dry.
Starting point is 00:49:43 It was like, uh, I make a, average bitch look like, uh, or I treat an average bit. Like a fat bitch. But I don't give a fuck, Kanye. No one cares. I don't care. Even Kendrick. I'm like, the fact that he's. Kendrick's the only one I care about.
Starting point is 00:50:00 is going to wait to put this out and then his album's going to drop a week later or something. And like just, that just turns me off. It might even be on his album. Yeah, that just turns me off that like this. I think Kendrick's going to drop a video. He disses. Like, he just perfectly times this to dis and get a response and like this again just for his album release. Like that's what I just don't.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I don't know. It makes it seem like less genuine. And honestly, I don't think. Kendrick's past few albums anyone Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa just one Just the past album Let me look at his past albums
Starting point is 00:50:39 Just the last one Don't go past that Let me look at his past few albums I haven't heard anyone mention a Kendrick album or gave a fuck Or listen to it Okay you're getting into the hater category In
Starting point is 00:50:55 Since Damn Since Damn Damn was the crit But Damn was one of the best rap albums. Unbelievable. Damn is amazing. Unbelievable. Damn is a start it and let it play through and it's an amazing album.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Mr. Morrell and the Big Stepers, no one. I don't know anyone who's listened to that. Black Panther, the album. I mean, really. No one cares. Big shot. Big shot. Okay, people do care.
Starting point is 00:51:25 So I guess that's the only two. People do care. I thought it was more than that. But no one's. No, yeah, he's, because he took a, he took a hiatus after damn. And that's what people were saying. Like, he took a five-year break after damn or whatever. And, uh, I actually, like no one, I'm so invested.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I'm so invested in this. And I'm, I'm, I want, I want, I want content so badly that I've basically damn, I've even memorized futures verse on the fucking like that track. I like refuse to play it. I'm not giving it more plays on spot. Let's not be. Let's be real. Future is not a good rapper.
Starting point is 00:52:03 He's not good. He is, but he's not. He's not. He's not. And he's 40. He's not good. He can flow and he has good melodies.
Starting point is 00:52:15 But I'm not breaking down. He is a very good sound. I'm not breaking down a future verse and like, what does he mean by this? Like he said he's going to put his fingers down her throat. And if he loses a carrot, she might choke. It's very simple.
Starting point is 00:52:29 what he's saying. But I've memorized like that. I've memorized push-ups. And I went back. I was listening to other disc tracks that Drake's made. I went back and listened to other Kendrick albums just because I'm like, how like I need to like listen to more Kendrick
Starting point is 00:52:44 if I'm going to be prepared for what he's saying back. Dude, I went and I listen to. I listen to, that's how long the drive is to this fucking office. This office is 45 minutes away. So I'm like, I'm like, okay, let me listen to old Kendrick albums. I never really gave to Pimp a butterfly a chant.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Like a proper full listen through because it came out when I was working at Walgreens. Wait, to Pimp a Butterfly? Did? Yeah, it came out when I, like. Is that shit that fucking old? Like 2014, I think. 2014, yeah, 2014. I don't fuck.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I thought to Pimp a Butterfly came out after damn. No. Yeah, I didn't give a fucking. about this album either but I think it was good right to Pippa butterfly uh it's probably his most polarizing album some people loved it some people hated it I didn't realize that besides like the tracks that you know 2015 oh so that was right before I moved into the scuff house but like king king kunta is one of my favorite songs uh we gonna be all right that song's on there uh there's a song called These Walls, which is about
Starting point is 00:53:58 oral sex, which is pretty fucking it's pretty fire. And then there's some like other songs on there that are really good, but the middle tracks, dude, they're tough listens. Really? Yeah. Just boring. No, it's like, it's like, weird? Yeah, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:54:17 It's like saxophones with no bass or no drums. And he's kind of rapping and doing a lot of weird voices. It's a tough. I hadn't listened to it in a really long time. It's a tough listen. But the songs that are actual songs are really good. So I understand how polarizing it is.
Starting point is 00:54:37 But then I switched over to Dam after that. And I'm like, oh my God, it's so much better. Like, it's night and day. That was like a moment in the scuff house as well. Dude. I re-listened to DNA like kind of, you know, like when you hear a song so many times that you're just kind of used to it. but like every once in a while you're like okay let me listen to it again yeah dude i probably i'm gonna re listen to it i'm gonna re listen to it when i it is fucking insane the end that when the
Starting point is 00:55:08 beat switches dude oh my god bro that would like that inspired me so much in fl studio to try to like come up with something though i never yeah but like christ i was like so jealous like i just can't come up with that. There's, and Kendrick, low key, people have roasted me for saying this, but, like, Kendrick has never, like, gone at someone. Like, they, they, he's never gone back and forth with someone before.
Starting point is 00:55:40 It's always been subtle. He just fucking throws jabs and disappears. Yeah. But, so when I, when I say, like, Drake has done this before, like, like, people are like, yeah, well, Kendrick's going to murder him. And I'm like, show me, like, one example of why,
Starting point is 00:55:56 you think that. Because the heart part five, the section 80 album in 2011. He had these like four bars where he like came at. Let's be real. I don't, I'm not saying he can't do it. Like Kendrick for sure. I'm actually an amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he could do something. I do. I, dude, he could put. I went into this. I will never say he killed Drake. I might. I don't give a fuck. I might.
Starting point is 00:56:25 If he released a video. could come out with something crazy. If he released a video that's like him, you know, like when schoolboy cues, like throwing up gang signs and shit, like if he released him like Compton shit and then like exposed Drake for some crazy shit and I was like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Like I was fully prepared because Drake's like my favorite artist of the past 10 years, 20 years even maybe. But like it's very possible he's a piece of shit. It's very possible. And if that got to. exposed that got exposed and you know it is what it is i just don't think drake would be willing to like drake wants this that's what i'm saying dude i don't think you don't drop twice skeletons in his closet you don't drop twice if you aren't confident and i now i'm like wait wait wait wait
Starting point is 00:57:14 maybe drake has some shit on kendrick that none of us know any any didn't he like mention his wife's name subtly yeah yeah once or twice dude have you heard the he said it was a i i but dude it is not sound like AI. There's a track that got leaked called High Whitney. Have you? Can you look up High Whitney, Drake? Bro. I mean, dude, if this shit, it does not
Starting point is 00:57:37 sound like AI. People's, but Drake, Drake came out himself and said it was AI. He's going to spit his gum out, but I'm sorry if you guys are still here and you're not interested in hip hop but holy shit. Dude,
Starting point is 00:57:56 if he released this shit. We got to do with that. We can talk about my, we can talk about Halo lately. I think I'm in a slump and shit. I'm changing my dead zones. No, yeah, we can talk about that. Got the internet optimization. I feel like,
Starting point is 00:58:11 just, all right, play this shit. Play this shit. AI leaked studio version. All right, you can stop it. I, if he released that, if that was real,
Starting point is 00:59:03 it would like be, that shit sounded. It's so hard. It sounded so real. Dude. Hi Whitney. Why don't you come over and get hi with me? I can show you more life and more comings.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Dude. Oh my. Because I feel like, I feel like a person, an AI person typing that up would not do that right there. Dude, that shit sounded hard. But that came out during while,
Starting point is 00:59:28 uh, academics, fuck. Well, academics was like on a live stream and Drake DMed them and said, no, that's AI. And some people are like,
Starting point is 00:59:37 fuck, is it AI though? With that now. Is it AI? Like you can get away with- I want to see the fucking, I want to see who made the beat. I want to see who wrote the code for that song.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Yeah. Because I don't believe that's AI. Because at least Kedric's trash ass. Oh, that shit was so true. Came out. That shit was so garbage. And then the guy comes out and it's like,
Starting point is 01:00:00 you explain it like, oh, this is how I did it. We're just like, dang. And someone, someone quoted him was like, bro is just explaining how trash he is. Like he was all hype explaining like this is how I did it.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And I did like, you know how Kendrick, he, he is teased. You got to really say his tease. And some of this quote I was like, bro, it's just explaining how trash he is. Because everyone thought that was fucking old. Whenever I heard it, I was like, there's no way this is real. And then he goes, I was like, I'm like, grab the Glock when you hear K dot. And I'm like, he would never. I was almost hoping that was it, just so like we win.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Just so we win. Just so we win, quick and easy. We win. Yeah, do you want to listen to push-ups? Let's listen to push-ups. I know it's been a minute, but like, fuck it. That's just. But like, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Push-ups. When it dropped, we were supposed to get in there, play it, react. But also, I don't know if we could sit. I mean, I'm sure we could, but like. Were we supposed to come in here, listen to it, and then just discuss it for an hour? I don't know. Would we have figured it? I'm sure if we would have figured it out, kind of.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Anytime anyone drops. I don't have that much to say about it. Anytime anyone drops, I go to a YouTube channel called Lost in Vegas, and they're two guys. They're on it. They're the best. They are the best. First off, great beat selection. Beats amazing.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Future. Future. Future Tokyo is future's assistant It's her name How to fucking big step in with a size 7 man's on Kendrick I know my picture on the wall
Starting point is 01:01:54 When y'all cook up All right can you pause it This is what I tweeted The Hodge Oh my drive here It's just a picture of size 7 shoes The inside of a shoe With side 7
Starting point is 01:02:12 I can't believe Oh wait you saw You and Pam are both kind of stands. Like I'm choosing this side. He's using that side. I literally heard Pam go, dude, Drake's kind of bugging. And then I was listening.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Didn't he walk in yesterday for content? This is what I heard. Didn't we look at each other? This is what I heard. Pam looked at at Nick and goes, yo, Drake's kind of bugging. And you were like, what?
Starting point is 01:02:40 Because he's winning? And he was like, nah, he's kind of just bugging. Like, is it really? good and he was and then he was talking about like other stuff he's posted on Instagram yeah he was like is this even like good talking about Drake and I'm like that's hater shit yeah and then he goes because it's not like like that like that's like like that's like good and then you went what his three bar verse and I was like that's hate or shit you guys were hating you guys were being such haters I mean I've chose my side
Starting point is 01:03:10 and the thing is I've really I love good Kendrick I don't necessarily dive into his albums and shit like that but like I do like Kendrick and I'm well aware of what he could do so we'll see I'm not aware I'm not aware I'm not aware I'm not aware I'm not aware of what he could do
Starting point is 01:03:30 Kendrick has never murdered like sorry like and never verbally DNA song oh he can wrap his ass off but Drake or sorry Kendrick and Jay Cole have never took out. I've never taken out somebody.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Talking from like a battle sense. I don't. But I've just heard them. I've heard Kendrick Spaz and I've like just that the DNA song. Oh yeah. Yeah. He can wrap his ass off. Holy fuck he's good.
Starting point is 01:04:00 But there's such a difference between wrapping. Like not everyone like not everyone can win a battle of this sense. I mean even it's like that verse was good. It's like that verse was great. But it's not enough. It's not an, it's, you have to keep going. A lot of people, like, what if he doesn't do anything? That's what he just drops his, he drops his album and everyone's, like, he throws a shot.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Like, oh, lights game Canadian. He's going to drop an album, throw a shot or something on one of his songs, but it's just going to be his album. And like, everyone's going to be listening to his album because they're going to think like, okay, something's got to be on. Then he loses. And then he just got to disappear. He does a tour and then disappears again. just loses. That's all that is. All right. He just loses. You heard it here first.
Starting point is 01:04:48 But like there's no people, people make a big deal out of losing but like Jay-Z lost. Yeah. Like, people lose but at least fucking fight. You know what I mean? At least fight. People, yeah. Fucking Jay Cole. Jay Cole. I was about saying the same thing.
Starting point is 01:05:09 He fucked up his new album for me. Because I wish it like, the thing And everyone agrees. Like even like like Joe Budden and like these other people, they're like they're like they're like me to where they're just like It depends.
Starting point is 01:05:23 It honestly depends. But fuck you can not. Don't do that. I think it depends. I think it depends. How do we even listen to your shit? If Kendrick comes back. If Kendrick comes back.
Starting point is 01:05:33 That the slightest in like If Kendrick comes back and says some insane shit to Drake and it gets crazy then I'm, I'm okay with the J. Cole apology because like he just didn't want to. I can understand why J. Cole. Maybe Jay Cole's got like two baby mothers. Maybe he's got some fucking shit in his closet and he's like, yo, I don't, I just want
Starting point is 01:05:57 to rap better than you. I don't necessarily want you to dive into, which I understand that. I feel like J. Cole would be the one to not have skeletons in his closet. Yeah, but you never fucking know. You literally never know. I think J. Cole has just been at peace and it's like I, I do. understand it, but I don't think it got to the point where he had to bow out this early. Like, he could have just dropped this and said nothing.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And still nothing would have happened. Kendrick would have said nothing. Like, this just would have, people don't wouldn't even give off. Like, no one's talking about is this anymore. Like, it just would have been, I get you. He would have dropped it. It would have been swept under the rug after a week. And no one, he didn't have to apologize and ruin his next album for me.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Because now I just listen to it different way. I'm like, any hard bar. I'm like, yeah. I was listening to, I was listening to the buttons podcast on the way here. And he said that Kanye dissing him in that like that verse. And then also putting out a meme. Which I did this.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I only, I like half list. Kanye on that like that remix said, I can't even think of a Drake line. And if, if you play Jay Cole, it gets the pussy dry. That's, that was his.
Starting point is 01:07:12 And then he tweeted a meme of a guy of a girl looking at a guy and saying, do you listen to Jay Cole? And the guy says no. And then the girl gives him the head. And so like he's going at Jay Cole. That's actually kind of funny. Yeah. It is fucking weird. And what, what Joe Button said was basically Kanye just gifted Jay Cole a get out of jail free card.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Yeah. if if j cole dropped a four minute conier dis i'm back and the thing is i'm so back why i'd love j cole what was what was the song when he was like um false prophets false prophets when like that's about conier right and it's like the way he did it though was so that's like one of my favorite j cole songs he's rap rapping in that he's rapping but it's not like he's shitting on the dude it's almost like a I feel bad for you and this sucks you're not you were like one of my idols and then meeting you and yeah yeah like it was it was a dis but it wasn't like a a dis that we're used to of like you're just coming at the person and it's on a hard beat like it was like a soulful just put him
Starting point is 01:08:33 down but like I don't want like I don't want you to hurt but just know like I'm like this disgusted by you Kanye. Like I hyped you up. You were a poster on my wall growing up and now like knowing what you've become.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And I fucked with that heavy. Same. And I don't want that though. I don't know I want Jay Cole to be like do you like God or not like not.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Like not want him to like really I don't know. He couldn't do the false profit approach again. He would have to but even then. I don't think he's going to do it. He's not going to do it.
Starting point is 01:09:10 But even if he's not going to do it. But even if he's not If he did, if he did, I'm back. Even if he did come out, come out with some hard shit, I don't know if I would be back. I'm back. Because what if he's like, what if he's like, Kendrick is my boy? So I like late. If he explained like the.
Starting point is 01:09:26 But you, I don't fuck with you at all. Like if he did that, I'm fucking. If he molded it perfectly into where it's like, Kendrick's been my boy, didn't want to get into it. I'll explain it with some bars. I'll go to Fay of all. But then immediately just a immediately just starts. going in on Kanye, I'm probably here for it. I would be back. I would
Starting point is 01:09:45 be, I would, I would, I would pre-order the warm up or the falloff. Okay, so yeah, we're 40 seconds in. You can play it again. Who's pre-ordering and buying albums? How does that even work? I'm just kidding, I don't know if people do. I'd know. They're like, is that a thing? People
Starting point is 01:10:01 be like, oh, Nikki Minaj sold 110,000. It's like, what the fuck bought that. Oh, wait, can you pause again? The hook is a double entendre. If people hate on Drake, they just fucking hate. Maybe I've been a shick, uh, stop, so did you drop? Drop and give me 50 like some pushups is a double, possibly even a triple on Tondra.
Starting point is 01:10:25 If you drop and give me 50 like some pushups, it means that Top, who is the, who is who is his, like, head guy manager, just like controls him. Uh, Chubbs is blunt runner. Uh, I think he's, I think he's talking about the weekend in that, but yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Uh, weekend. manager um but top said drop and give me 50 like some pushups you do whatever top says if he says he's your drill sergeant give him 50 but also every time he drops an album top gets 50% drop give me 50
Starting point is 01:11:00 also dropping give me 50 that's insane dude that isn't i know people have talked about this a million time also there's a there's a there's a video of kendrick doing pushups in like a school yard or something. And so like that could be maybe like a triple, but also that's probably where he got the whole idea to make this. So I think when and when people talk shit about Drake, I think they just either they don't know what they're talking about. They just don't really get much.
Starting point is 01:11:30 They don't like. Like there's people who get it. They definitely don't understand like rap. People who don't. They definitely don't understand rap. Like they're the same people like voting Joe Biden. Even though he's like is reading off. Did you see the clip of Joe Biden reading off the teleprompter?
Starting point is 01:11:49 And it said like, what did it say? It said like four more years. And then in quotes, like, pause because they want the crowd that like start erupting. But he just read off four more years. Pauls. And everyone's just like, yeah, four more years. Four more even it's like, he's just so far. Like this dude doesn't even have a break.
Starting point is 01:12:13 He can't think. But like people are. still just like quote tweeting him like to the worst part about dude never mind also I'm not into politics at all I don't know anything about their I don't know anything about anyone's policies and maybe
Starting point is 01:12:27 Joe Biden is the best for us I don't fucking know yeah no he's not even from a human sense but maybe maybe they look at it like his what is his party people behind him how are you relating this back to Drake I forget
Starting point is 01:12:42 let's just play it they just ignore everything I just said. I hated that line, but it's also a double, I think. Yeah, like, what did that mean? Wait, can you pause it again? I think what he's saying is your pants might rip,
Starting point is 01:13:01 obviously, if you do a split, your pants will rip, but I think he's also saying you're getting fucked from your splits. Yeah. That you're getting fucked so hard, your pants are ripping. That could be... 50-50? Dude, how do people have like...
Starting point is 01:13:20 How does this work? I don't know. Fucking top-us manager gets like 50% of like... His album? There's no way it gets 50% of an album. I don't know. I mean, Drake said it must be true. It must be true.
Starting point is 01:13:33 All right, you're good. The beat goes crazy. Pipsqueak pipe down. You ain't no big three scissons. Got your wipe down. First of all, none of those have him wipe down. None of those have him wiped down But it sounds hard
Starting point is 01:13:50 Tight now Just to have talk with your ass Had to hike down Oh we said hike down I thought he said hype down Like he had to like calm himself down Because he wants to spazz on him But like he has to hike down
Starting point is 01:14:10 No no no He's at the top of the mountain Okay Yeah yeah So in order to talk to Kendrick He has to hike down That shit goes crazy No pump runner
Starting point is 01:14:22 Claim the 6th Boys, they didn't come from it. You had to run from it. Cash, but... That's so good. Jet Swift. Chains, wiki, wiki, wiki, wiki. Dude, can you pause again? The way he goes at everyone is crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I don't think people... It's like a different style, too. I don't think people under... Because we talked over the, the famous metro line. He gave Metro one line, which was the perfect way to do it. It was just like, why is Metro... Shut, show. Shut down.
Starting point is 01:14:56 It's the perfect way. But the way he's weaving, dude, he talked about Kendrick, did the, did the Metro diss, then talked about future and then went back to, to the weekend. Dude, he's, people were like, dude, everyone's ganging up on Drake. And he dropped one track and still got enough out. If this was like some other fuck, he would just like go, he would have, have the artist go at them for like eight eight bars.
Starting point is 01:15:26 He would know Vaseline it where it's just like, you're not, do the other artists. Artist, it would go at weekend. Artist hook. Yeah. Artist hook. Which is basically what no Vaseline is. But,
Starting point is 01:15:35 but this is so much better. Yeah. Every line you're like, oh, who's he talking about now? Oh shit. He's back to Kendron. When Metro, when Metro Boomin posts on Twitter or Instagram,
Starting point is 01:15:46 the comments are just shut your hell ass up and make some drum. It's so. And that's so genius. That's the perfect bar for Metro. It's because it's like, why are you and like, why are you sending the beat to Kanye? Like, why are you even in this? Like, like, like, such like, it's such like a just the perfect. Like he doesn't have to do anything. Like Metro's like now out of it. He's like getting meme doing. Dude, Drizzie Chippendale probably by your bitch Chanel. Uh, roll. Rold and Dale probably got your bitch. Rolling loud stage, y'all return. That was slick as hell. Probably change if your BM starts to kiss and
Starting point is 01:16:25 tell. This could be people reading into it, but I read, but I saw something. Chippendale is a, is a cartoon Chippendale where they're trying to get at a dog, it's two, what are they gophers or chipmunks, uh, chipmunks that are trying to outsmart a dog named Pluto. Okay. Pluto. Future's nickname is Pluto.
Starting point is 01:16:47 And then, and then he talks about the rolling loud stage, which was future on stage. Shit will probably change if your BM starts to kiss. and tell a fucking uh it's not a shanty who is uh Sierra Sierra Sierra has a song called kiss and tell so it's like who god damn see I like I have to listen to like I'm not going to sit here and try to think of it myself I have to just like listen to a fucking yeah it's so intricate but Drake is so big that people will look into everything he says so I bet Sierra knows some shit about future. Dude.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Of just, like, future might be a piece of shit. But if the thing is, is if future's a piece of shit, I don't think people care. Unless it's like really bad. Obviously, if it's really bad,
Starting point is 01:17:38 then yeah. But like, I think if push a T comes out and says, yo, future, you have a kid. No one cares. But like,
Starting point is 01:17:48 people cared. People cared that it was Drake. But yeah, that's just how intricate this shit. could possibly be shit, bro. I think I had said something to to, uh,
Starting point is 01:18:01 I love when you talk about the push of TV. I think I said something to Bommage about like, like how many days it's been. And then someone else on Twitter responded like, yeah, but it's been 380 or 842 days since Drake responded to push a T. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:18:18 like, no one's doing that to J. No one's saying that to JZ though. But like, like no one's saying that. No one cares about. Push a T what the fact that Drake even like
Starting point is 01:18:29 was involved in that I don't care what push a T says Drake does not have to respond ever It's like if if fucking Faye Santana Dis scump Like I like scum you don't have to Like you don't have to tweet him back
Starting point is 01:18:52 And that's that's no Since it was going to drop a disc track. Well, I'm in Optic. So if I said something about Scump, like, I get you know. I get where you're saying like, just someone on that side. Or if you talk shit about rug,
Starting point is 01:19:07 phase rug. If I mentioned Jake Paul, Jake Paul doesn't need to respond to me. Like, no matter what I say, it could be about his girlfriend, his brother, his mom,
Starting point is 01:19:21 is that. I get you. It doesn't matter what I say, Jake Paul doesn't need. to respond to me. In the same way, Drake does not need to respond to fucking push a
Starting point is 01:19:30 tee. Play it. The chip in there. That was out of stage. I was sick as that. Boom. And it's like, boom, back to Kendrick. With some bodyguards like,
Starting point is 01:19:51 Whitney, top stage, drop you little better fucking boom. Better drop it. Dude, this shit, is so hard. I don't care what people say. This shit is hard as thought. He said he wrote this in an hour.
Starting point is 01:20:04 That's got to be tough. It took him an hour too. Boom, Rick Ross. You're getting in two. The chart he got from Drizzy. John Morant, you want some? Boom. What John Moran do?
Starting point is 01:20:22 Pause it. Metro Boomin said, y'all are going to have to be tweeted. Y'all got to pick a side of Eventually on some like why you're making the beat he tweeted y'all got to pick a side and John Morant quote retweeted and say you know what side we're picking and then it came out that like that like Drake fucked his ex or something and so he that's why he said he's like on Twitter okay give me 50th time and the fucking song we got not start to be with that this shit I love it's broken in a pot now he you know when he says merch money week is fucking not fucking you know
Starting point is 01:21:03 top to top on a piece that top on a piece of that begging Kastenah boy you shout out streamers by the way when it drops on merch money oh I'm intro what do you mean by this
Starting point is 01:21:37 what do you mean by this what did he mean by this? Yeah what do you think he means by drop a 50 bag for the mom in the spot drop a 50 bag 29 for the fuck I'm about to piss my pants that shit might be a threat i don't know what that is i don't know but i liked it drop a 50 bag for the mob in the spot is that you pay 50 000 to get someone killed 29 for the thought is that
Starting point is 01:22:07 i thought it was 29 for the god i don't know if it was 29 for the god that means like i want that song to come out six god gets a deal i don't have to pay 50 000 to get someone murdered, I can pay $29,000. I thought that's what it meant, but I didn't know it was thought. That's the first time I'd seen the lyrics. 29 for that. I don't know what that means. I haven't got, but the beat is crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:31 But if that's a threat, like that. Jesus. Okay. Let's not talk about that one. So, I mean, I don't even, it's. It's so good, it's just so one-sided that, like, there's not much to. There's nothing to talk about. We just have to wait.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Don't care about. I don't care about Rick Ross calling him a white boy. I think that's trollier. I think that's very trolling. Shut the fuck up. Rick Ross is funny. I mean, he,
Starting point is 01:23:05 he rap pretty well. He makes good music. He raps well, but it's just, I would put Rick Ross above a push of tea for sure. But like, if this was a random. And they've also made hits together.
Starting point is 01:23:16 But on those hits, you think of Drake's versus. Yeah. He's, and so like Rick Ross, Let me guess Rick Ross You have a fucking album coming out soon And like that's why you want to get involved
Starting point is 01:23:29 And I don't care about It's all over French Montana Yeah It's over French Montana Drake had a verse on a song With French Montana that I guess Drake didn't It's because Metro made the beat Really?
Starting point is 01:23:43 Yeah and him and Metro had a falling out So he had a He didn't want it So it's a bit apparently Like French was gonna like put it out anyways Or something Yeah so he sent us His team sentence says, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:23:55 Don't care. Over French Montana. One of the best, like, hip hop duos ceases to exist. Rick Ross and Drake. Yeah, because of French Montana. That's just insane to me. It's probably some more shit than that. Maybe it's not.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Maybe Rick Ross is just like so. Bro, even though he's a correction officer, he's just so against the police and doing anything. Even though he's a credible. Doing anything law related that he's. was just so disgusted by Drake's move of including the law to get a song shut down instead to just read I don't fucking know the way yeah and I think whenever everyone was teaming up when you're like when they released the second album and now like ASAP Rocky has a has like a track talking shit about Drake fucking like the weekend is singing a diss about Drake and I'm just
Starting point is 01:24:51 like okay so there's literally like at this point eight people all going at drake in the back of my mind i'm like dude he's he's done some shit baby mama stuff was about asap brocky now that i think about it what do you mean things start to change when if your baby mama starts to kiss and tell about riana it's i mean it's possible oh that's what i did think but then the sierra kiss and tell and then that makes a little more sense but it's like whenever everyone was going to Drake in the back of my mind, I'm like, oh my God, like, some shit's going to come out about Drake and I'm going to have to change my opinion and it's going to hurt.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Be it the past. But then whenever the Rick, when Rick Ross came after him, I'm like, dude, Drake's, I, some, I'm like preparing myself. Like, Rick Ross is going to say some shit about Drake and I'm going to have to look at Drake differently. But then he talked about a cease and desist for French Montana. And just some white boy, Drake got surgery on his nose or something. If this is it, Drake's going to murder all of them.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Like murder them, except for Kendrick. Everyone else, and that even might happen, who knows? But if I'm Kendrick, I'm so, imagine being Kendrick right now. And you're like, I've been wanting to go at this dude for so long. And now all these other fucking bums are in my way. Get out of my way. I wonder if he's annoyed. Kanye, shut up.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Future shut up. I bet all of them. Move. I want to get at drink. I bet all of them when they were like. Like Kanye's that dude that has power. So you can't really say no. Right.
Starting point is 01:26:26 But like when he comes around, everyone's like, God. Like Kanye's going to be here in 20 minutes. Everyone's sitting there like, fuck. There's, I've, because he's going to walk in. It's all about him. And like he has this fucking insane weird ego shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:44 And I like, I bet when he got involved, people are like, fucking Christ. Like I wonder if Kendrick is looking at this like, Dude, what I can I like probably It's I dude it seems like It seems like Metro it's like I don't know how old Metro is But it seems like he's like a 17 year old kid
Starting point is 01:27:00 That like hates this one guy So he's like gathering people and it's like Yo like let's all fucking talk shit about Think of people who are on their side Listening to us right now just like And you're exonerate Metro's like a 70 year old kid There's no way you can think anything else There's no way
Starting point is 01:27:19 if something comes out about Drake I will happily change my opinion if Kendrick he won't he won't I like rap more than I like an artist so if if if it is settled
Starting point is 01:27:34 and there's a better disc track than another disc track I will play that one I've played like that and push-ups the same amount of times but it seems like it seems like
Starting point is 01:27:48 Metro gathering all of Drake's fucking enemies and putting them on a back-to-back feature with future or a back-to-back album with future is corny as hell. That almost didn't seem as corny. But then when you get the Rick Rosses
Starting point is 01:28:05 and it's all corny. French Montana and then Kanye joined it. That's when it, to me, it's like, no one gives a fuck. No one gives a fuck about y'all. The thing between like Metro, even the weekend.
Starting point is 01:28:19 The weekend sang a dis. The weekend, like, if it was just Metro, which I need to stop fucking mentioning Metro. First off, he didn't make the beat. He did make the beat. He didn't make the beat. I don't like that verse. He sampled it.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I mean, he made a sample. He took the entire beat. Bro, Eminem, or not Eminem, Little Wayne wrapped on that fucking beat 15 years ago. The Wayne. I don't think so I don't think that's true If that's true
Starting point is 01:28:51 I won't change my opinion Is it this I want to find it Fuck What is it man What was it Because I think I heard that Because I
Starting point is 01:29:05 That's different That is the same No it is not It is so different You're being a hater right now That beats hard though Dana da Oh shit
Starting point is 01:29:25 The only thing Taking out is the like that's the only thing taken out like he just sampled the whole fucking thing he added like a little maybe a fucking something it is different
Starting point is 01:29:42 it is different but it's like yeah I didn't know that the bass was similar to because the bass was the hard part to me and that came out and Lil Wayne took that that came out 15 years ago from Little Wayne and before that it was even earlier than that
Starting point is 01:29:57 like the beat's been made for a while but I can't even give Metro and like I respect like sampling and shit and like I like I got a little drum machine and I started like sampling and like that was more fun to me than like making beats it was fun just like trying to like chop up songs and just like making them into something else but like he just kind of like took this and people are just like
Starting point is 01:30:21 damn their shit so far Metro's going crazy and it's like Metro didn't really make that and I understand that like sampling and there's more to a producer than just making beats like metro probably came up with a concept let's get this person get this person and then adding in like adding in the easy e sample is it's really just it should be like future kendrick and drake it should just be kenrick and it's like metro's like metro's love in this shit he like feels relevant and shit again like he's fucking loving this shit but he should not be involved but i mean maybe like it's
Starting point is 01:30:56 I don't know. We don't know. I don't care about anything else besides Kendrick and Drake. I don't care about anything else. If there is no more future Drake, it sucks that. It sucks that future and Drake are making songs together. It sucks that Rick Ross and Drake aren't making songs together.
Starting point is 01:31:14 It sucks that Drake won't be on Metro beats because I think Metro, I mean, what a time to be. No. Yeah, what a time to be alive is fucking amazing. And Metro made that whole album, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Yeah. They like made it in a week. I mean, it's all great, really, really awesome stuff. And it sucks that they won't be working together anymore. But when we talk about like what,
Starting point is 01:31:37 what people want, people want, Drake versus Kendrick. That's all people want, I think. Well, we'll wait and find out. We'll wait and find out.
Starting point is 01:31:47 If you don't like hip hop, you're not here anymore. Tyler Swift drop. I mean, people still listen. They fuck with it. Dude. I,
Starting point is 01:31:56 I saw that, I think Joe Button said the reason they call them the big three is because they're the only hip-hop artist that when they drop, they do 400K in sales. And I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Taylor,
Starting point is 01:32:09 200K in a week. And, like, that's insane because, like, people don't do that. I thought that's even high. Taylor Swift, in her first week, two million. God. Two million.
Starting point is 01:32:26 Are people buying it? Yes. What? the fuck you can just have everyone has Spotify like it's on the fucking Spotify where he's buying it she sells vials but like who's buying the vinyl who's buying the records like I don't because I don't
Starting point is 01:32:40 understand all this shit works like they'll be like Nick Minaj sold $200,000 or first week I'm like who's I'm listening to it right now and I didn't buy this shit yeah I think it's all it's all about it's all about his album was pretty good too but like I don't get how like are is that literally two million people bought on like no I don't think so I don't know how
Starting point is 01:32:58 works. I don't know how it works. But I mean, yeah, Taylor is, uh, I mean, even Drake's, even Drake said, like, Drake was making fun of Kendrick for pushing, like, basically his distract back for it to come out because he's going to put out his album after Taylor's kind of goes away. But even Drake said, like, I do the same shit, though. Yeah. Shout out to. You kind of have to.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Shout out Taylor Swift. That's a fucking insane, dude. But I guess, well, she had some disc tracks too, dude. She had some disc tracks on her album. Really? Yeah, Blake's wife was like telling me about it. Some boys and her like ex. She like called him like a little dick and shit.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Damn. Basically. I mean, what do we dive into that? Get the Swiftie's watching. Yeah, I just, if you're a Swifty, you gotta tell us. No, there's definitely a Taylor Swift podcast out there. That's fucking massive. Massive.
Starting point is 01:33:48 It gets a million views of video. All right. We'll see if we'll come back next week. See if anything changes. Probably not because Kendrick's got to wait for Taylor Swift to die down. and he's in his New York apartment struggling right now. And all you little haters
Starting point is 01:34:03 need to pipe down. In his three story, I looked it up. He's a three story penthouse. Yeah, Lord only knows what the fuck that calls. Okay. But I guess we'll see.
Starting point is 01:34:15 We'll see. Thank you guys. Thank you, Meathead. Yeah, thank you, Meathead, man. Always showing up being here, setting his whole fucking setup for this. Sometimes I feel bad because we'll do these
Starting point is 01:34:26 and like we won't even like need anything. But like meathead will set me heads here up so shout out fucking meathead and he's getting big as shit It's kind of weird actually Look at him getting this is like too quick How some is gonna yeah join the club anyways Mead play that on some music

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