The Flycast - PLEASE FIX THIS, WE’RE ANGRY | The Flycast Ep. 108
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I like watching the NBA.
I don't have to play ranked to like Call the Duty.
That's what you've been doing?
Yes.
But that's mostly because everyone's streams are dying
and we need to play something that people like to watch.
And so people...
Bro, I was...
Welcome back to another episode of the podcast.
What episode are we on, Schmeet?
Come on.
meathead?
It's like
10.
It doesn't matter, but it's just
how I like to start the pod.
Yeah, it's a hundred something.
We're above a hundred, so everything else
just the chair. We never even thought we'd make it here.
We're switching it up a little.
We do, you know, in the flycast?
I mean, sometimes maybe we have sponsors.
But other than that, we don't, we...
We get to do what we want.
I mean, we have sponsors.
And that's...
This is sponsored by Veri Hill, but usually...
But regardless,
usually our sponsors let us do whatever.
we do what we want.
If we want to just straight pod, we straight pod.
If we want to listen to copywritten stuff so Opti can't make ad money, we do that.
If we...
Add money, smash money.
That's what I've always said.
Here in the fly cast, we do what we want.
A lot has happened in the past week.
Oh, we got some stuff to talk about for sure.
I guess let's get the depressing stuff over with.
Well, first, let's see, have you been up to anything?
Oh, my God.
I've never seen you bail like that.
Before I get into my week, is there anything that you would like to?
I mean, I guess so.
Yeah, I went to Italy.
Yeah, I was Italy.
It was crazy.
It was a totally different world.
Yeah.
I have pretty bad culture shock a lot of the time.
And luckily, because the people in Italy are so nice, I didn't have that bad of culture shock.
Because I got it really bad in Mexico City.
really, really bad in Paris.
What does culture?
I know what you mean by culture shock, but like, like you're just like,
like this shit like affected you.
Like, well, Paris did.
Like when you walk when you walk outside on your own and you don't recognize anything,
you don't recognize the language, the people, the culture, the buildings, the geography, anything.
You don't recognize anything.
You kind of like freak out.
And I did that.
I didn't even know what was happening to me in Paris.
I kind of like that feeling.
See, I hate it.
Blake's the same way.
When I go to, like, Mexico or like when I travel, I feel like free.
Blake will go into a, Blake will say, I can get drunk and just wander.
Which is not ideal of what you should do in a foreign country.
See, if I was drunk, I might be fine.
But Blake was telling me, he would go to Italy or he went to like little towns in France.
and he would play 21 questions at the counter
or like charades at the counter
trying to figure out you know what he was looking for
dude I would shit myself yeah I don't know what it is
because I know it's not it's human beings
but I I'm like I don't want to be a pro
I have like I don't know
but Italy was great because almost everyone speaks English
and if they didn't if it was just a little bit of English
like here and there they were still like extremely nice
like how that works
the feeling of disorientation experienced by someone
who is suddenly subjected to an unfamiliar culture.
Finally, schmeet.
Let's go.
Finally.
If I, um, I remember, yeah, when I go to different countries, I feel just like a sense
of freedom and like, I want, I mean, maybe it's the drinks.
I remember we went to, maybe it's the brothels.
The first, maybe it's the brothels.
The first table five tournament.
It was in, I think, Cologne, Germany.
And they put us
Like it was only two teams
It was a European team
It was before Halo 5 came out
They sent Optic
And the European team
To just like play like a show match basically
To like present Halo 5
At Halo 5 at like packs or something
I think it was
And they so they flew us out
And they had us in some random
Like I wouldn't
It's not a hotel
It was like a hostel
Hostel
Were you in
rooms with other people?
No.
It was like,
uh,
I mean,
three,
four three is three for three,
but they wouldn't do that.
That'd be crazy.
Fly off the guy out of us rooming with fucking like,
people off the street.
Um,
I,
I guess I didn't realize it was an hotel.
It was like,
uh,
I'm guessing this place had like,
10 to 20 rooms.
Okay.
But it was just super small.
Some.
Randotown.
People didn't speak English.
Yeah.
Like are the one person
that worked like no one at the hotel
besides this one like kind of younger girl
she just maybe like 25 or something
worked at the front.
She spoke English.
But besides that it was just me, it was
so fun bro. It was definitely top
five times in my life. Me, Ace,
flame and assault just like
it's such a funny
dumb fuck group
to just roam.
Just a runner.
this random town
I don't think I think
Cologne Germany is a big
city but they had us in a small
one like something like a Hagerstown
like a Hagerstown
The Hagerstown of Cologne
No one spoke no one spoke English
and we were just like roaming
trying to pick up like little
words to say because we're like
trying to get food and stuff but it's like
they just don't speak English
I don't know it was just it was so different
but it was like it was so fun just like
roaming the streets and figuring out how like because we just got dropped off like there wasn't no one
like there wasn't like a loti like i remember we went to like london and like lottie helped us out
at like yeah yeah yeah east person like someone's like helping us out and like they just dropped us
off and we had to figure out how to like exchange money like we were roaming the streets looking
for like exchange places and we ended up like renting bikes and then just like getting drunk and
riding bikes all around this like a little town and it was definitely fun i i definitely enjoy
going to different places i i went whenever they told me about going to italy because we were
like why didn't you go why didn't you go whatever they first brought it up thank god you didn't
by the way yeah we'll get to that uh whenever they first brought it up i was like i wasn't against
it but I was kind of like then after a little bit I was like man like I'm I'm at my highest
sub count I've been for for a minute I mean the apocalypse is coming soon but yeah my my highest
sub count I've been at it a minute my streams have been like pretty consistently good like this is
one of those times that I go like I go off to whether it's Colorado whether it's to L.A
whether it's Boston fucking some Orlando cod event
or this is the one time
I'm just going to say no
unless they they could have forced me
but I think
Zinny was like
Zinny was ecstatic to go
yeah yeah
well Seth was going so
yeah Seth was going so Zinny was
very excited to
go along with
but they asked me to go
and I was thinking about it
and I was like no this is I'm at it
I'm in a pretty good space right now
I was at that time
I was where I'm working
out every day. I'm on a good schedule.
Like, I was just on my shit.
And I was like, this doesn't happen
very often. But I've been on my shit
lately, and I don't want to fuck this up. I know
I'm going to go there and we're going to be drinking
every day. I know I'm going to be drinking.
That's just what I like. I just,
maybe I get culture shocked, so I just
drink it away. Maybe I do go and I'm
like, uncomfortable. I don't know.
I think I just like, I land and I'm like,
I can do whatever the fuck I want.
There's not really any responsibilities.
Anything we as Optic have to do over there?
Like, I can show up drunk.
Not drunk.
Like, I, I'm never, no one ever knows I'm drunk.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, even at events, if you see me, I'm probably hammered.
I've, but hammered in a way to where I've just, I've drank a lot.
But I don't know.
Genetics, it's, genetics, I can handle alcohol pretty well.
Anyways, um, yeah, I don't know.
I just, I was in a good spot or I was in a good place.
I didn't want to go.
And then thank God.
God, I didn't go.
Because I think on the last pot, I talked about it a little bit.
I was saying, like, Milo, I think I was just talking about how it's been, like, a rough few weeks.
Like, first, my, like, my mom calls me about my grandma and then, like, a week or, like, Milo's.
So I think, like, that's the biggest issue going on.
And then, like, Milo's fucking legs are giving out.
And we're, like, what the fuck's going on with this?
And then I don't know if last pod.
we got his lab results back.
Milo, my dog.
It's my girlfriend's dog,
but I've been living with him for like two years straight.
So pretty much my dog is we were mom and dad.
I don't know if I talked to,
I don't know where I was at, where we were at last pod,
but Milo has had the past like three weeks.
His legs started giving out,
and then we started noticing like cis on his back
and then like within a few days we're feeling more and we're like all right we got to get these
checked out we ended up like he ended up getting like put him under i don't know if you consider
it surgery but they like cut out the cysts sent it off for um lab testing and then we i don't know like a
week or two or like a week goes by and mylo's like he's just getting worse like his legs are
just getting worse and worse movement he can like barely walk
and we're like, all right, this is bad.
We need to take him to like something else.
Like we didn't even have the results back at this point.
And we went to some other place.
I think we got like x-ray scans or something.
And the lady there searched up his like medical records.
And the, the cis results did come back, but this place still hadn't contacted us.
What?
And she looked, yeah, she found the medical records.
And apparently he has cancer.
so we were pissed about that
that like they like how do you
like how do you like how not tell you guys
reached out to us yet that our dog
especially since yeah
dogs at home and it's not in the hospital
and he's losing like we're waiting
on the results but he's getting worse so he took him to a new
place and then he got x-rays and stuff
and they were saying there wasn't really anything
um
wrong with his bones and shit
they were like this just has to be like the cancer
and then she said she
think she sees like a little thing on his,
uh,
I don't know, like a little bit of cancer on his,
I don't even remember liver, fucking something.
So we were just like, and I get that news.
Um, first off, I was streaming and then Michelle like,
text me and was like, hey, can you come here?
And I, yeah, I'm just like, fuck.
I get up and I go and she says, my lowest cancer.
I go back and I'm like, about to cry.
And I'm just like, I got in my stream.
My dog has cancer.
And it was just like, it fucked me up.
got off and we're like sitting there figuring out what to do and then um as the days just go on
he was just getting worse and worse and then it turned into like him not really being able to walk
to him just like laying there and like panting and like yelping and stuff and we're like he like he's in
pain yeah so we take him to um or they gave us pain meds when we took him in for like x-rays and
stuff and we were giving him his pain meds at first it seemed like it helped like
because he would just like be up all night just like yelping and just in some kind of i don't know if
like i don't know how fucking cancer works if it's like in his bones or what but the milo was just
like in pain and it was just like so sad to see and um he's just getting worse and worse
his pain's getting worse and worse we um we take him in or we get like a prescription
for even more pain meds
and we give him that and we're like okay like
this like this should do it like we just
need to figure out the pain part because he's just
like in so much pain like
if he has if he's if he's like pissing
himself or like shitting himself or like
has to be in a fucking wheelchair with it where the
little back legs are in the wheelchair yeah it's like
we can do that but like he's in so
like we have to get this pain figured out
so
we were basically up all night
it was like 11 p.m. We were like giving him
this new medicine.
We're like,
hopefully he knocks out
and he doesn't.
We double up on his medicine.
Again, he doesn't.
We, like, give him even a little more.
And he's still just like,
it's not, we're just hoping, like,
like, you're a little dog, like,
and these are, like,
painkillers and, like, muscle,
like, how the fuck aren't you just, like,
knocked out?
Yeah.
And he's like,
and it just wasn't working.
He was in so much pain.
And then weirdly,
like, we were, like,
sleeping on the floor with him.
And it was just, like,
we couldn't,
I don't know,
he was just miserable.
and then we'd like pick him up take him outside to potty
and then when we would take him outside it was like he would like calm down
and he would he never would do this usually when we take him outside like something he'll
run around piss shit or whatever but like usually he'll just like
a lot of times he'll just like stand on the back porch and just like watch our other dog
chewie run around but my little would just like walk away from us and then just like go lay in
the yard and we're like that's fucking weird like that's shit like dogs apparently
dogs when they're dying or like know they're dying they want to like go be alone and like just
die off yeah um and he was like doing that we're like is that what this is like it's the whole time
he's like when he's inside he's like panting and he's just like yelping and doing these random little yelps
but then when we take him outside he just like he starts calming down and he just wanders off to
the edge of the yard and like goes and lays down and we're like that's so we're like fuck man like he's
we're like pretty much coming to terms like
we have to take him to the ER right now
because he's in so much pain and obviously
we can't do anything about it.
Hopefully
like we've, we're discussing
we're like what do like we, I mean like we can't
just let him live through this pain like
we might have to put him down but let's just
go to the ER and let's like
don't put an IV in him though like that should always
fucking works when when they're sticking a fucking needle
in you to give you something like that's the shit
that really works and we take him there and we sort of like drop him off they tell us what they're
going to do they're going to like hook him up to an iv give him fluids give him like this pain shit
blah blah blah this was like six in the morning you all have been up all night yeah they hadn't slept
and then we drop him off we come home i sleep maybe like 50 minutes wake up again at like 8 a.m
or something i can't remember if i was like i can't remember if i was like i can't remember
remember if I
went and streamed or not.
I don't know if I did.
But like streaming was like helping me
keep my mind off it.
As weird as it is,
usually when something bad's happening,
I like to just disappear in my bed
and kind of like rot away
and like sort of feel bad for myself.
And just fucking just rot away
and depressed in bed and look at my phone
and smoke and eat food or fucking whatever.
Um,
but we wake up
that dropped him off at like 6 a.m.,
wake up a few hours later.
Then my girlfriend gets a call
and it's like, hey,
this is pretty much what's going on.
We can't do,
there's nothing else we can do.
He's still in a lot of pain.
And yeah,
he's pretty much just like sitting here suffering.
Like we can't give,
like if we give him more,
like he might just fucking die from this shit.
Yeah.
And so he pretty much came to the conclusion, like there's literally nothing we can do.
The only thing we could do would be, would be immediately have them take them into surgery and do and start like chemotherapy or whatever.
I guess that's the same term they use for dogs.
And it'd be like chemotherapy and all that shit and basically start that.
but it was like he was in so much
it was like well we're going to take him through chemotherapy
he's going to be
like he's already been miserable
for the last three weeks
like have him go through that
and radiation
and like who's to say his legs
would even start working again
who's to say the pain would even go away
like he would just we'd go through that
that would be how itself
and then even through like looking up research
sometimes they still only live like
a month couple months six months
six months after that and it just so we were just like what would be the fucking like just drag his
life out even longer to this more just living through fucking hell just for the sake of us being
able to keep him so we pretty much came up to the conclusion like we're gonna actually have
to put him down like this is it seems so fucking unreal that like this was happening and uh
basically we made the decision to put him down
and we went in
saw him he was fucking miserable
when we saw him they let us hold him he had a little IV in his arm
they said we can take all the time with them that we want
you know we sat there for like 20 minutes or something
but he was just in so much pain we like we just have to get this over with
and they the lady came in with all the stuff
that they put into the IV to like first they give them like an anesthesia or something to like knock
them out and then they inject the stuff that like stops their heart so we basically just like held
on to them and they put them to sleep and and then they um put them to rest and then so yeah my our dog um
pass away died of lymphoma cancer and i don't know man if
It was just, it was like, I guess the second hardest time of my life.
Because first would be my dad just like randomly passing away.
But then fucking this shit, bro, this shit is fucking hard.
And I did not expect it to.
Because I'm kind of like, I said this on, I don't know, like Twitter or something,
but I'm sort of like a realist and like I joke about death.
and I joke about like my death and
like not in like a sick way
it's just it's the fucking reality of the world
yeah and that obviously everyone's gonna fucking die
it sucks and sometimes you're just fucking unlucky
but like I don't know
it just it hits so hard like
the sad part it's like I've only known
or the crazy part is I've only known that dog
for like two years but since
literally first meeting like my girlfriend
always tells me like
That dog never liked anyone.
Didn't like, like, other guys she talked to, other friends she would have over,
like her girlfriend she'd have.
Like, the dog, like, never liked anyone.
And then she said it was so weird.
Like, the first time he met me, he was like, he wasn't all on me, but he was, like, curious about me.
And he was like, I don't know, we were, like, friends instantly.
So it's just like, since the first day I met him and his mom.
and Milo just
like accepted me right away
it's like we've been together
every single day
and I've seen him every single day
and I've taken care of him
every single day
and even when
when Michelle would like go
visit her parents
or have to like go to Kentucky
for the horse shit with her dad
or anytime she had to be out of town
like Milo was with me
and it was always fun
and he just had like a funny little personality
because he like didn't really like anyone
but like that made it cooler
because he liked me so much
yeah I met him
once.
It was just
it was so, I don't know
dude, I didn't think I'd take it as hard
as I did.
And Michelle didn't think,
Michelle didn't think I'd take
it as hard as I did because like,
I never really,
I think I've only cried
in front of Michelle once, but it was like
a blackout drunk cry.
And we were both like crying to each other.
It was fucking weird actually.
Like if both of us look at that,
Like, that was why the fuck we're even trying?
It was fucking weird.
But besides that, like, she thinks I'm like,
I try to be this, like, tough guy and, like, not show emotions.
So when I'm just, like, breaking down over Milo, it's just,
I don't know, man.
It was just, like, it was just fucking different.
I mean, it's hard.
So crazy.
We were in, we were in Italy talking about it.
And because, obviously, I was trying to keep up with you guys.
And I, and I,
I looked at
Hector I said I hope Nick's alright man
I don't I don't think it's looking good
and then Hector
started talking to me about his dog
and he started tearing up
and Hector never cries
I've never that's the first time I've ever seen
but his eye started getting red
and I was just like dude it's like a pet
I mean I've had Mace less than a year
and he was in the hospital I was freaking the fuck out
that night
or those three two nights yeah it's just like it's it's like a pet is so different like it's a
different kind of love it's all it's unconditional it's almost yeah it's the purest love there is it's like
it's like it's like having a kid i'm assuming i don't have a kid but yeah yeah i would say dogs and
children and like parents yeah but even then it's like you kind of love them conditionally like
if my mom murdered someone, I'd still love her.
I'm trying to think of conditions that would happen for me to not love my mom.
Well, they could definitely turn.
People could turn on you even if you love them unconditionally.
The point is, like, dogs love is, like, the purest, those unconditional love.
Like, it's just so different.
And it was just so hard.
It just, it happens so fucking fast.
Yeah.
It's like, it's not like, when my mom, my mom's like recently been telling me, like, my grandma's not doing too well.
And like, like, they kind of, it kind of fucks me up.
But my grandma's also like 96, 97, something like that.
So it's like, I've prepared myself mentally for 20 years.
Yeah, yeah.
She's been saying she's going to die since he was, since 20 years ago.
Yeah.
So it's like, you kind of like, you have that in your head and like you're what, obviously you're going to be sad as fucking.
when my grandma does pass, I'm going to be sad as fuck.
Yeah.
But you kind of prepare for your, and I've had older dogs pass away,
but like, you're just, they're old.
Yeah, they're 17.
You've been preparing yourself.
Yeah.
My other dog literally died at 17, and it was like, that's a dog I had my whole life.
And I was sad, but at that point, I think I moved out to the scoff house.
And I was like, damn, like, just hope my mom's okay.
Like, Lacey was the best dog, like, RIP Lacey.
but then this it was just like this dog that I'm like
that I grew to love so much
and when I picture
when I looked into my future
it was like this is the first like relationship
I've been in where I like see a future
and yes I could see us getting engaged
and married and having a kid
so and we talked about like Milo would be the best
older brother as a fucking dog
yeah yeah and just like
you joke about that
and then within three fucking weeks,
you just like go through hell with him.
Within three weeks, you're like, all right,
he's growing cis.
What the fuck is this shit?
I mean, it was probably like a whole month process,
but it was like, all right, he's growing sis.
What the fuck is this?
His back legs are looking weak.
Okay, now he can barely move his back legs.
Okay, now he's not moving his back legs at all.
Okay, now he's yelping in pain and like all of that shit just within like,
And now he's in so much pain we have to put him to sleep.
And then, finally, obviously finding out he has fucking cancer, it's like, you just don't ever.
You just don't think about that.
Yeah.
And you, I mean, you kind of think, like, what if something happens?
But it's like, you just don't, like, it was like a nightmare, like, fever dream that was just reality.
It's just like, I'm staying up with Michelle, like, it was two, three to week period.
The last two, three weeks, it was just like, we're, she's.
sleeping on the floor with him
after a while he's
helping so much I lay down there with him
we're like barely we're barely getting any sleep
he's waking us up in the morning
with his pain then it kind of goes away
then it comes back then it goes away then we're
taking him to see this doctor and that doctor
and we're doing this doing that
getting this medication
and just all of that within two to three
weeks and then it's just like boom we have to put him to sleep
and now myler's gone forever
and
it was just fucking
and tough and it's still tough
I've cried every
day I cry usually
in the morning
after my stream
then like once at night
breakfast lunch and dinner
but it's just
I don't know I
I like
going back looking at this pictures
it's just
very hard
like we moved into a house
he had a yard
you like we started a new game of him like chasing his ball
and then for that just like to not be a thing anymore
and now here's little footsteps walking around
and obviously Michelle has had him since he was a baby
and like seeing her go through it but which she's been fucking
she's a trooper she's been really
she's been doing really good and like I thought she was going to break the
fuck down and like lose her
mind.
Yeah.
But she's been
she's been doing as good as she can.
She's even like
started going to the gym again
just like force herself to do something
because I think we were both like
set on kind of just like rotting in bed
and we just didn't.
Like it's just that depressing.
Like I just don't give up like what's.
It was almost like a what's the point of living
without Milo.
Yeah, yeah.
As fucking insane as that sounds.
but I was like, I was like, everything kind of sucks more.
Like I, like when I stream and get off stream, like I don't, I don't get to come lay with you and Milo.
Yeah.
And chewy.
It's like, everything's waking up.
You don't, I don't get to like take Milo out.
I don't get to see Milo, like, come up the struggle to get up the bed steps to get on top of the bed.
Like, I don't, like, everything's like when I'm eating.
I don't get to look down and see Milo.
It's just like everything fucking.
sucks more now.
And it's just tough not being
those like little things
of him in a car ride
and hearing his little footsteps
around the house or it's like
we're laying down in bed at like
midnight about to fall asleep and we hear
him in the other room like just eating
like eating his food
like down the hall just in his own little
fucking world.
And it's just
it's been a tough
we put him down
Saturday.
What's today? Thursday?
Thursday.
It's almost been a week, but it just fucking sucks.
Yeah.
That is extremely tough.
It's just the fact that it happened all so soon.
Like, we didn't have a chance that even, like, do anything, or it's like, when we took
him, even when we took him in for his, like, last day, we were like, all right, we'll take
him to the ER.
They'll hook him up to IVs and stuff.
And they'll give us, like, they were like, we can give you a fentanyl patch.
to like put on him
and that should help with the pain
if you do really want to take him home
but he isn't a lot of pain
and we're like too we're just gonna
like I wanted to take him home for one day
take him in the car go to Starbucks get a pup cup
like yeah
lay out in the sun for seven hours
like just hang out with him
for one last day
and we just didn't get to do that
yeah and
just fucking happens so fast
it's all fucked
and I don't know
I'm like
makes me like angry
and
and then like I feel like
if I was someone else
listening to this
and being like dude
you only knew the dog
like two years like
that's all long
I don't think so
it's a long time
I think you're overthinking it
I think you're overthinking it
I think anybody out there
that has had a dog
yeah the support has been insane
yeah I mean like
I thought I'd catch seed
like
a few straight shots or something
or like not even that
but I thought like people were like
damn like sorry for your loss and then
but it's been like
it was like an insane amount of like
yeah like everyone just people
I think people relate more than
I feel like I've never really felt
this feeling and this
me like tweeting it out
and putting on my Instagram that this is
happening to me and have or happen
to Milo a lot
of people are like I can like
I can relate.
Yeah.
Like I've been there.
There's some stuff that we go through that.
You're like, I don't think a lot of people could relate to that, but almost everyone can relate to that.
To losing a dog and losing, losing a pet.
I mean, it's fucking tough, man.
It's so tough.
Bro, my streams, like the little.
I think I took that.
I took that day off, but then the next day I stream, because I don't know, just fucking distract.
Do something.
Yeah, yeah.
Do something.
which I'm like proud of myself for even like doing anything
because I'm totally the type that just like shuts down
when when something bad happens.
But stream was helping distract,
but my streams were just like so shit.
I was just not fucking into,
I just like didn't give a fuck.
That being said.
I was just like angry and I don't know.
That being said,
I did tune into one of your streams.
Yesterday.
And you're raw at Halo now.
I've gotten
What happened
I've gotten a lot better
Bro
People thought
What the fuck
Guilki
Kalki text me
And said
And thought I was on Adderall
Really?
Yeah
I was like bro
I thought you were taking
Yeah
I popped in yesterday
And you were
Duo queuing with Tommy
Yeah lucid
And
you cued up against
fucking
Matt and Dead Zone
And you guys beat them
Normal dead zone
I mean they had a shitter
On their team
But like
But still
be that shit. You used to be the shitter.
Three, four weeks ago, I was that shitter.
Yeah.
I was looking at your shot and I was like, wait a second.
What the fuck?
I've gotten so much better in the past month.
The past, like, I would say the past two weeks,
something just like switched.
I'm hoping that happens when I started playing good.
And then the next day I played pretty good as well.
Then the next day, maybe not as good.
But then the day after that played good again, I was like,
bro, I think I'm getting good again.
It took a fucking month.
because I've been playing, I think,
I just started playing Halo Infinite
I think just over a month ago.
And I'm like starting to get...
To get it back?
To get it back a little bit.
And like, like, I still say like,
I mean, I'm still like,
I'm still not that good.
I definitely like couldn't compete or anything.
But even I think APG,
I mean, he could just be saying this,
but he was like, I think,
I searched and I matched with APG on my team
and like two other good people
when we're playing like four other good people
I'm like great so if we lose it's on me
because that's just how you're the odd man out
yeah it's like no man you need to stop fucking believing
in yourself again
ABG said that damn
and then like
after the game he was just like
see man like I fucking told you
then like the game man it's like
then people from history and were like
Like, ABG was saying, like, you've gotten pretty good.
Like, you could probably actually compete.
I was just like...
You're like...
I was like, damn.
I ain't had this feeling in so long.
But, I mean, I'm still not fucking, like...
What's your rank like?
I'm probably, like, top 20 in the world.
But, like, that's not that good on Hela.
Like, I mean, it's good.
But, like, bro, people all the time ask me in my stream,
they're like, how the fuck are you
24
like 2460
2,400 and 6th
like what the fuck am I even supposed to say my rank
dude 2460
like how the fuck are I saying like get these
3 for 3 for 3 thank you for making a great game
sort of
thank you for
balancing out what Halo once was and what it could be
not doing it as crazy Halo 5 shit
but also making it feel like Halo
but holy fuck somebody bottled it
somebody bottled the rank system
every other rank system
counts down to number one
and you want to be number one
you guys count it up
for some reason
and it doesn't make any sense
bro you can be 1500 onyx
and you can be 3,000 on it
those are two different ranks
bro those are three different ranks
that's the difference between ascendant and immortal
Bro, there's a difference between like 2K Onyx and 1500 Onyx is absolute pig shit players.
No offense.
That it's like you.
But like you shouldn't be the top rank in Hala.
I know.
I was like I shouldn't be able to sign on.
I solo cued to Onyx.
I did.
Me.
It's stupid.
I can I shouldn't be able to get.
And I play Cod a little bit.
I shouldn't be able to get on Cod and hit fucking top 250.
like I shouldn't be able to hit
and the only reason I even hit
iridescent is because I'm like playing with good people
sometimes. Yeah.
Like I shouldn't be able to hop on the fucking game
I'm not that good at and reach the top
fucking rank. Share the top
share onyx
with
like me
say it was onics for call of duty.
Me and fucking
octane
should not be sharing the same rank.
Yeah. Me and fucking
Skies should not be, me and Shotsie
should not be sharing the same rank.
It's just very true. It's so stupid.
Like the people, it's such a gap. It's such a skill gap.
Even between like 1,500 onyx and 1,800
onyx and then like 1,400
onyx is like a gap.
And it's just like,
there's so many gaps at the top rank.
And the thing is, onyx is such a tough name, bro.
Like if Onyx was the,
if it was the top
250 players in the world or the top
200 players I don't know how many people are constantly
playing Halo if it was the top 200 players
in the world are on it. Halo should be like top 50
there's not enough players to go
that shit would be sick
and then you could go from
then you could go obviously you got your
gold platinum diamonds whatever
but you could have like master
you could have like fucking
other
other halo plasma
You have other halo terms
That would be also sick
It's not too late to do that dude
Yeah, that's what I'm saying
It's not too late
It's not too late
Please fix it
We want to watch
We want to watch lucid and
And renegade and formal
And now Nick
We want to watch them
Race to number one
Bro at least give us some sort of content
Let them race to number one
If they redid ranks
the game would blow
not blow up
but the game
summit would play it
every day
I guarantee you summit
would play it every day
the ranks
so where like
the top rank
was super
or there was like
say a top 50
at this point
you couldn't call it
onics
you'd have to call
it top 50
or call it top 50
and then
no don't call it top 50
okay
well make it
call it something cool
make it something
to where like
only
literally only like 50 people
can get this fucking rank
like there shouldn't be
1500 people and I
yeah it should be
It should be the top 150, I think.
I looked up the
scale of population ranks, and it's like...
How many radiance are there?
There's so many...
Like, Onyx is like the third most popular rank.
I think it's like Diamond 5, Diamond 4, and then like Onyx.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm just...
It's up there.
When it should be the least fucking popular rank,
So Radiant is the top 500 in Valerate.
Yeah, we don't, we have two hundred.
Call the duty is the top 250.
And Apex, Apex is the top 500, I think, are predators.
So I think it should be the top 150.
Like that is the, it's the blue, why is Halo do it so different?
They have the blueprint laid out.
No one gives a shit about the rank.
I don't give a shit about,
like I'm like 20th in the world.
I don't give a shit about my rank because it just means nothing.
It means nothing.
It's like cool to, at first it was, at first it was kind of cool because I was horrible.
And then I was like coming back and I was like, all right, let me try to like, let me try to win games.
Is Onyx after Diamond?
Yeah.
Dude.
You say it's onyx after diamond?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What?
Platinum Diamond Onyx.
Dude, after Diamond?
after diamond in
Valerite there's Ascendant
Then there's immortal
Then there's Radiant
There's three other ranks after Diamond
After Diamond
Yeah after Diamond and Apex is
Master
And then
I think yeah
Predator after that
So there's two ranks
It shouldn't go straight from Diamond
To the top rank
Dude it's the thing where like
1500 Onix is
I don't think there's even
any difference. Like there's a dude barcode
who's 3,000 Onyx, which it
really just comes down to grinding. Yeah.
And like the way they made the rank system
now is like, it's
you either get plus seven or
lose seven per win.
As long as you win more,
like you're going to gain CSR.
So you don't get more for how
well you do? It's only one's lost.
They're, I think
at lower rankings, that's kind
they like figure out how to
do your account sort of.
to where like if you're contributing nothing
and constantly getting shit on
you'll get like plus four or five for a win
but if you're fucking dominating
statistically you'll get like plus 12 plus 15
yeah yeah and that's how it starts off
but I think once you get into onyx
and higher I think it's maybe once you get into onyx
it's just like a plus seven minus seven
so like this dude barcode
who's I don't I think they got like top six
or top eight but he's like 3,000 onyx
but that's just because he's a matchmaking grinder
And he plays with another pro kid, and it's like, they just constantly win because, like, no one gives a fuck, really.
But they set it out to be like, well, let's hit 3,000 onics.
So, like, they're trying their asses all trying to hit this.
But like, even 3,000, I think 3,000 onics and 1,500 onics look the exact same.
That's insane.
Like the ranks are both the exact same.
And those are like worlds apart.
Those are like two ranks apart.
Not even like, yeah.
That's the difference between being a low diamond and.
apex and a product
like number one pred it's like
the game is
completely different yeah that's wild
how do you bottle it that bad
the blueprint
ah the blueprint is laid out
I think if they changed the ranks
it would if they did something
to make it to make the ranks look
dope of like I'm trying to get this
yeah give it awards
give or give rewards
give oh my god
that guy has his his his his head is a top 50 helmet he's is a clips by the sun behind him or some
shit like make it look fucking cool and then people are going to be like oh my god who it oh
is that really renegade and then you see his helmet you're like that's fucking
renegade look at his helmet that is what people play for yeah that's what people play for
people don't play for this fucking look to see what how many skins i bought in the store like that's
cool but that's not what people play for that's what people buy
for and it's
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't think it's gonna be fixed, but moral of the story is I'm getting better.
You're getting better.
You're getting better.
Quick.
You're raw now.
Bro, it was so.
I'm trying to get good again, but I don't know if I have the passion, but I'm, I'm
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It was a thing.
It made my streams entertaining
because I was bad
and it would genuinely piss me off
and I'm talking shit to kids.
I mean, I'm not actually saying it to them
but in my stream,
if they were to rewatch my stream,
they were like, damn,
Maniac fucking hates me.
But like it was fun at first,
fun at first,
just being so bad
and like trying to get better
and then I show a little bit
of hope, but then I'm back to shit again,
and then I'm playing like shit.
And then it was like, that sort of became like a theme of my stream.
And then now it's, now I'm at a point where like I'm getting better.
And it's almost like a more,
I just expect to do pretty good now or like at least decent.
At least not the shit the fucking cheats.
Like I don't want anyone watching to think I'm like that fucking good because I'm not.
Yeah.
Like a lot, I always consider, I always consider myself like I'm just another matchmaking
shitter and it pisses me off.
Like, even yesterday I'm playing and it's like, how am I not dominating these fucking
nubes? And it just pisses me off.
But like, it's gotten to a point now where with my streams, I'm like, kind of getting
bored.
I'm like, okay, I've like, I've gotten better.
Everyone in the chat's noticing, like, people are like, damn, okay, maniacs actually
gotten pretty good.
So I'm like raging less.
and I just feel like more bored with the game.
I don't know.
Like now I'm just like doing pretty good or like decent every game.
And like occasionally I like have this good game.
But it's like it's like I'm just more bored to when I was just like,
fuck.
And just raging nonstop and wanting to slay my controller and changing my dead zone settings.
And change in FOV talking to chat about it.
Everyone's laughing.
Like that was the thing.
And now it's just like, okay, I've not changed my dead zones,
not changed any settings.
Like, I'm stuck on this.
I like playing on this.
I play pretty good.
And now I'm just like, fuck, I'm kind of like,
like, I was even thinking about playing in like the cloud nine tourney.
But Milo.
Yeah.
Had to take care of Milo that day.
And so now I'm like thinking about like, I kind of want to play an attorney.
But like, like, even when I, it's so fucking crazy how it is now compared to what it used to be.
Like, I used to search matchmaking.
And if, if, if it was.
like eight good players like
I didn't even think about it like I'm just
another one of those like I just didn't
think about it like oh okay
this is a good lobby got to try
like back in fucking
any halo halo two halo three
halo reach halo four halo five like any
fucking halo like when it was a
stacked lobby it was just like okay I got to try this
you were a pro player I was just one of them
now it's like
now it's like if I met
like when I matched into that lobby last night
you saw, I was like, oh shit.
Oh, this was literally yesterday.
Play that again?
Did you just go to my Twitch and find this clip?
Fucking Christ.
Dude, those fights are so hard, dude.
You can get fucking turned on.
Those fights are fucking impossible.
But like this motherfucker.
I mean, you're playing stellar, right?
Yeah.
Who was that playing?
That's stellar.
I mean, that's not stiller who turned on you, but like,
professor
Hunter, Professor
Stellar and someone else
Think gun flexion or some shit
No, that's Beuler
Bueller
Not stellar
No, there's still
It said seller
No, professor
Oh shit, yeah you're right
What the fuck?
I mean that's a decent lobby
We ended up losing that game
And I blame Ace
Of course
Because Ace hasn't been playing that much
And Ace Ace, Ace
I return to Halo Infinite
and like I feel like I have the awareness to be like
to just be like fuck I'm bad
but like I don't think Ace has
like Ace came back and he was like dude I'm shitting
I like watch this stream I'm like you're not
I'm like this is the slowest
most like boring gameplay
I'm like dude you are not like I'll see him lose fight
like if I lost that fight I'm like fuck
I'm so shit
but like he'll lose a fight and it's just like
it doesn't even like no thought even enters his head
and I'm like my point
I've been playing with Ace lately and like he
just came back to Halo Infinite
so he's gonna be shit like yeah
the game just keeps evolving and evolving
but like I'll play with him and we'll lose
and it's just like fuck this is really hard
to win and I'm not
not trying to like blame Ace is still like pretty good
but
I don't know he was just in that game
but Halo's been
it's been a journey
but I'm at a point now where I'm a little bored of it I will admit I want to get I don't I don't do what
ha do I want to get good or do I give a fuck at all that's what I always do I care literally
one percent I'll stop and be like I don't give a fuck I don't care at all but but should I'm at a point
I'm at a crossroads right now where like would be kind of good like if I don't ever
I'm at a crossroads right now where it's like,
I go again.
I play,
I play call,
Call of Duty.
There's a ranked out.
Ha, ha, ha.
New maps.
I could get new maps.
I could get iridescent.
Ha,
ha, ha, ha.
Or I could be happy and never give a fuck ever again.
And just watch and enjoy.
I don't play football.
I like watching the NFL.
I don't,
I haven't shot a basketball in seven months.
I like watching the NBA.
I don't have to play ranked
to like Call the Duty.
That's what you've been doing?
Yes.
But that's mostly because
everyone's streams
are dying and we need to play
something that people like to watch and so people
Yeah.
I was so
I was so
Who is that?
JP.
I can't see.
I was, fuck, what was I about to say?
I was so...
God, I don't care at all.
Call of duty.
I do care.
I do care.
I do care.
He doesn't care.
He does care.
Fuck, why's that I about to say?
It'd be nice to care, though.
But I just don't.
I don't...
You care.
I just can't stand the fact that I'm fucking shit.
See, I do care and I get...
And I'm hard on myself and my stream's like, chill, bro.
Like, no one cares.
Like, no one's here to watch some crazy gameplay.
fucking lose it.
And I'm like, you're right.
That's so true.
I need to stop genuinely
raging so hard.
I think I need to start raging.
But it's just like,
I don't know.
There's so many.
It does feel good knowing I might still have it
at least sometimes.
There's so many hackers in Kod.
There's so many.
People are starting to hack in Halo now as well.
The commando?
Fucking flying Spartans and shit.
I haven't ran into them.
besides the obvious wallers and aim botters but people are saying there's like cheaters non-stop and
i don't know i've been maybe it's because i like play in the morning with nothing but
freaks and old people and i the cheaters might just come out at night or something freaks and old
people i don't know i've enjoyed getting better but oh fucking what i was saying earlier when i've
back in the day when i used to match into a good eight-man lobby i'm like this the stack
I don't even think about it.
I just play.
And like,
even if I,
whether I do bad or not,
it's like,
whatever.
Now,
if I get matched into a stack lobby and like,
like,
I genuinely get nervous.
And I'm like,
oh,
fuck.
Really?
Even when I play with Lucid,
I'm just like,
it's like,
first off,
Lucid might be a bigger complainer than me.
Like,
he bitches nonstop.
I'm telling you,
I want you on stream tonight to,
to watch you and Lucid play?
Watch Lucid.
Just.
lucid. Tell your chat.
I talked to Maniac today.
He said, he said lucid is
one of the biggest complainers in Halo history.
Click on his stream and just
see if hopefully it hits.
I'll do it. To where like he's just
fucking complaint. He complains about
his teammates. It's so
like, it's so much
it's so funny
and like knowing him and like
he's the nicest guy.
But then you watch his stream and it's like
holy.
fuck.
All he does is...
Tommy, shut the fuck off.
All he does is complain about his
teammates.
And I know, like...
I'm accustomed to it.
And I'll play with him
and I'll be one of the people
he'll complain.
Like, Manic, where are you?
Why don't you just drop pink one
in hell with overshoot?
And I just know his chats.
You're fucking dumb fuck maniac.
God, he's too bad.
Then I'll join my chat.
You're costing.
You're costing.
Dude, when I tell you...
But then there's sometimes he'll complain.
I'm like, you're like, you're right.
I fucking, like, I'll be mad at myself.
Like, fuck.
How do I just fuck that?
Like, I fucked up, but I choked at the end of a round one time or one round yesterday.
I rushed in and just fucking should have traded the kill.
I fucking choked the kill, but I shouldn't even have rushed in.
He was like, no, stay alive.
Don't run.
But I just fucking flying in a dynamic.
Fuck.
And then there's like three seconds left and the animating team.
God, ball.
They win by one second.
I'm like, fuck.
Like, of course that one fuck up I did.
And people are like, dude, lucid's bullying you.
And I'm like, I'm like, shut the fuck up.
He's not bullet.
Like, I,
I fucked up there.
Like,
I'm actually pit,
like,
lucid is right.
Like,
I actually,
sometimes I'm just like,
but Lusit,
sometimes I just gotta be like,
nine hours.
I'm bad.
Like,
you,
like,
don't expect so.
You know what you got into.
Yeah,
like,
don't expect so fucking much.
But then there's other times where I'm like,
I know I fucked up at like an important moment.
Yeah.
But,
yeah,
even like,
I'll get into those lobbies and I'll notice like I,
like,
dude,
just play nervous and I'm fucking.
I'm a,
I'm getting better at it.
But when I tell you, I,
how we start,
never used to be a thing.
How we start stream is I hop into Discord and Blake and George are already in there.
And then I,
I listen to them call out and play a Val match while I play Smash.
And then when they're done with my,
when they're done with their Val match,
I get done getting my ass fucking hand to me in Smash.
And I'm like, yo, ready to go live?
They're like, yeah
fucking getting destroyed
Every day
A hundred, dude
Every day I'm getting
Lost after loss after loss
Just smashed
But I'm having fun at least
And I
I hear Blake and George complain
For every day
Monday through Friday
For two years
I've listened to Blake and George
Complaint about their teammates
Every single day in Val
And to a point where I'm like
Dude are there just nothing but shitters
Over there
And you know
their teammates are complaining about them.
For sure. Dude.
And I'm like, dude, at some point, it's got
to be you guys's fault, right?
But every time I say that and joking, they're like,
no, you don't get it. Like, we're in a
loser's queue. And when we get in a loser's queue,
Val puts you with other losers and they don't know how to play.
And then you're getting down to spiral. And I'm like,
all right, guys, all right, I trust you.
And I'm like, y'all's shit, though, right?
Dude, I, I think with me
is like, I, do I blame
my teammates? Yes.
do I
I think I do
but I think I do a lot of like
self
I don't blame my teammates
I tell myself how bad I am
every single day
the thing is is I don't blame my
I don't blame my teammates
but I think that's just because I'm not good
right like I'm not good
if I was good
maybe I would blame him a lot more
like if I was
Lucid plays nine hours a day
and he's been doing that for two and a half years
I told him yesterday I was like
you got to you're in like
this is like little league
like these are like
It goes from screaming to playing with NIA.
From duo queuing with Niac.
I'm like, bro, this is like little, like, you're in major league baseball and then, like,
you just step down to, like, have fun at Little League.
Like, people are kind of taking it serious.
They're like, little kids.
They're pretty dumb.
Like, they're not.
This ain't their career.
You're playing Pop Warner.
Just, just relax.
All right.
Let's talk about it.
What?
Do you like my Instagram?
What, Schmeet?
Did we watch?
the fallout series what's the fallout series dude he's talking about a
TV series about the video game fallout I didn't see it nor have I ever
played the game you're a nerd you just nerd gas so what the nerd he said wait he
stopped this entire and then he popped his head out said did you guys hold on
did you guys see the fallout did you guys see the fallout series before you get into your
next subject I have one up for all for you're a nerd and he I've never seen a
him happier than explain he was smiling
so big.
I've never played the game and I've
I've never played fallout
so I don't know. Yeah I was
too busy talking with
women chicks and stuff. Yeah
I was like yeah I was like hanging out
I was smoking mad doinks with
a lot of chicks
six naked bitches in the pool
what did calico say?
I was skinny bitch that was skinny dipping
with six bitches.
I was skinny,
Dembin with six bitches.
Speaking of battle rap,
last episode,
which was a week,
two and a half weeks late,
we reacted to the like that verse,
which is still playing.
Played it on the way here.
Jay Cole dropped a,
an out or an,
an EP, a mixtape,
randomly out of nowhere.
I was on the flight
to Italy and I listen to a whole album.
Should we listen to it?
I don't want to listen to it.
Yeah.
What's the point?
The thing is, is the album is great.
I think the album is fucking great.
The song with Daylight and Absole is incredible.
The song with Cameron is incredible.
The intro song is incredible.
I even like the song with Bass.
Like, hide you, how'd you,
how'd you bitch?
Fuck.
How'd your wife?
I don't remember that one.
I haven't.
I'm not going to lie, I haven't listened to it as much as I should have.
I think it's great.
But I do think it's good in the song.
What's the song I've been listening to?
The Cameron song.
No, the,
Ready to Trade the Truth in Abiza.
Oh, is that one of the last ones?
Yeah, I was like, I saw Pam post that and I was like, wait, have I even listened to that?
Dude, but it was like.
I think, dude.
And it's just so good.
It's so good.
But Jay Cole is, I want to, on my way, on my way.
on my way
whenever that album dropped
I tweeted this
in Italy
four days ago I tweeted this
I think this is the first time
since the big three narrative
has started in the early 2010s
that Jay Cole is confidently in first
since the warm up
it's been the best
I've ever seen him right
discrack aside
this last throwaway project bangs
that's what I told
tweeted and then 24 hours later he apologized so if you guys don't know the story if you guys
don't know what's going on in hip hop and you don't really care you're a rock and roll fan or
you're a blues fan uh three big artists have run the entire game for the past 15 years
breaking down like this they've they've all uh for some reason one of them threw a shot at the other
two and one of those being j cole j cole has been a very peaceful guy his entire career but he's
been talking about how he's the best.
So people were like, hey, you got to go at Kendrick because he dissed you.
And Jay Cole put out a disc track responding to Kendrick, but it was mad friendly.
It was a very friendly disc track.
And then less than three days later, he goes on stage and apologizes to the rap game and to
Kendrick in general.
He goes on stage at a Dreamville concert.
His concert, his own concert.
and we could maybe...
I don't want to watch it.
No.
I've already watched it like five or six times.
He basically apologizes and says...
He said, since putting out that record,
which was a pretty soft record.
It was like a jab.
It was a jab.
It was like, I'm down to play this game if you want to play this game.
100%.
It wasn't like he went after his baby mama and did all this.
in
it was simply a
I'm down to play this game
if you want to play this game
I'm down to go this route
if you want to go this route
here's what I have to say
if you got something to say
let's do this
and then
that chain is worth
three million dollars
by the way
the one on Drake's neck
right there
really
three million dollars
and then he goes on
at a Dreamville concert
and he says
these past few days
he felt
he didn't
He hasn't felt right about the situation.
He said putting out, he said putting out the song was not right.
It made him feel bad and it wasn't what he needed.
It didn't feel right within his spirit is what he said.
It disrupted his peace.
It disrupted his peace.
He said he has been sleeping so well over the past 10 years because before 10 years ago,
Jay Cole was a little demon.
And then he has gone on this like journey of like spirituality, spirituality.
and very comrade he's a very comrador comrador he's he comrodtery he's a comrade to a lot of his
mentor or to a lot of his peers he likes collaboration he likes he wants to hang working with people
he likes being he's been over the past five years he's been on a gazillion features and he's
bodied all of them nothing he's been on an insane run which is why i tweeted that which is why i was
like as far as pin to pad he is the best of the three right now when i tweeted that and i
still agree with that but going on stage and and in in apologizing what do you what were you what was
your initial thoughts because i know your initial thoughts were my initial thoughts for no no no no
no you fucking idiot keep that even if you feel that way keep it to your fucking self
I'm like, dude, this takes, I don't even want to hear your new album anymore.
I'm going to listen to it.
But it's like, like, J-Call's whole, I don't know, facade.
Jay-Call's whole image has kind of been like, he's never been the gun bar king,
but you're like, there's something about Cole.
He is from, I guess, a pretty bad place.
but he just seems more intelligent, more mature,
but something about him.
I think Cole's got some dog in him.
Oh, for sure.
Cole could snap on one of these.
He fist bought P. Did he?
He knew.
He knew ahead of time.
Like, Cole, he ain't like, he's a nice dude, but he ain't no bitch.
And like, he's got some dog.
That's what you've always wanted to, bro.
And that's what, that was my image of Jay Cole.
When I first heard of Jay Cole, not when I first heard of him, but he was on his mixtape because I'm from North Carolina.
That's our guy.
That's our guy.
That's our guy.
There was no one else.
And so when I'm in, especially I'm in high school was his mixtape era before the, his debut album, I forgot what it's called Colts.
I know it by heart, but I forgot what it's called.
Sideline store, I think.
Before that, he was like on this.
Mix tape his mix tape fucking
His mixtape come up
Was fucking insane
He signs
He does a
Avert he does a
A mix or a freestyle
Over dead presidents
The presidents to represent me right
Killing it
J-C or Jay Z signs him
And says yo by the way
If you're going to rap over my beat
You got to do it better
So he does another freestyle
over the same beat
and to this day
it's one of the best tracks
I've ever heard
like it's so good
it's insane
and so if I was like
that's my like initial view
of Jay Cole is like
the best
arguably the best rapper
of all time tells you
to do better
and then you do better
you got to come harder than that
and then on your debut album
Mr. Nice Watch
he's on now
now Jay Z's got a verse on your
debut album.
I'm like, dude,
that's,
Jay Cole is like,
oh,
like he's,
yes,
he's like over the 10 years,
last 10 years,
he's been on this hippie,
hippie shit,
but it's not like he doesn't have that fucking fire.
Joe's in the top three without any of the extra shit at all.
It's so true.
Drake's extra.
Kendrick's not a,
Kendrick's extra.
Kendrick's extra.
He dressed up as a Catholic priest.
He does some, like,
weird shit,
like just like Jesus,
some Jesus stuff,
I think.
Kendrick's extra
Drake's super extra
but Jay Cole
is in there just
seemingly pure talent
It's so true
See
Jay Cole seemingly
You like feel what he's like
Yeah
Whenever he came out
With like false prophets
Talking about like
I think Kanye and shit
I was just like dude
I feel this
Jay Cole seemingly
is the guy you grew up
You grew up with
Or that you went to high school with
That it
Drake
And like you love
Kendrick aren't like that.
He's a real ass dude.
Drake and Kendrick aren't like that.
No.
They're like, oh, that's the dude from Compton that's on this like jazz shit.
Like, Drake and Kendrick calculate how to be at the top.
They at the top when the album drop, his album drops, like take this angle.
Like they calculate this shit.
Jay Cole is in the three just all fucking talent and being.
Pure pin to pad.
Pin to pad.
And the thing is, is he's not like a fucking, he's not like a, like a Joyner Lucas or like a daylight or or Absol.
I mean, I can't.
Or like any of the Griselda guys where it's like, you know they're the best writers in the world.
But they're not going to go top 100 on the charts.
They're not going to, you're not going to hear them on the radio.
Yeah.
When they're spent like that, it's just like, I get it.
You're really good.
Yeah.
But like I'm not.
But J. Col can do.
It doesn't touch your soul.
And I think that's what separates the big three from everyone else
is that they're so good at rapping,
but they're also great at making hits and great at building that community around them.
Those are the only three that could host their own,
well, besides like Tyler the Creator and them.
But like they can host their own fucking get like Dreamville or OVO Fest.
And everyone's coming to that.
Like, these are the big three for a reason.
Now, my initial reaction was also, it wasn't like, no, it was no, no, no, but it was just like, fuck, man.
Damn it.
Because part of me knew what was going to happen.
When you hear, when you hear, what is it called?
Seven minute, seven minute drill, which is Jay Cole's return disc track.
to towards Kendrick Lamar
It was so
It was good
Don't get me wrong it was good
And feel like swat in a fly
I'm not gonna lie
Like that's a not gonna lot
Not gonna lie as a four four syllable
Conductor conductor conductor
You're like oh shit
It's a sample that Drake has also gone on
Like it's it's pretty good
And it's it's very well written
and he also, for the first time,
I think in forever,
Jay Cole is shooting at someone directly.
You know exactly who he's talking about,
which he's kind of been on his subliminal shit for a long time.
And I was like, oh my God, it's happening.
But it wasn't like, it wasn't, it wasn't a,
it wasn't like that push,
it wasn't Pusha T Drake.
It wasn't Drake Meek Mill.
It wasn't Gucci Main and who did fucking Gucci?
G-Zeezy. It wasn't that big.
It wasn't like, fuck your baby mama.
Which it shouldn't have been.
Like, this was just the start.
It shouldn't have been. Yeah, you're right. It shouldn't
have been. But then he goes on his
response was appropriate.
I did too. I did too. And I was like, nice.
Here we go. And I still think it was good.
I think it was good. Lightwork.
Like, you know, I was good. I'm the
fucking
fucking while I busted him. Like the
the reference about the guy who's holding the gun and like crying because he doesn't want to kill his friend but then he shoots his friend like that's i don't know the movie i can't remember the movie
do you remember the movie oh um but that's all it's all great references is all great writing and then he goes on stage
and apologizes and dude the difference i i think um there's a duality of me and one side is like
Fuck.
That's our guy from North Carolina.
This was his time.
If he was ever going to have that cemented legacy of that's the best ever.
He fucked up it, bro.
That was this.
He fucked up his legacy.
That was the time.
That was the time to really do it.
But then the other half of me is like, you could tell on that track that he didn't want to do that shit.
I could kind of tell.
I think he tried to like hype himself up like, yeah.
I'm like, no, no.
I think I'm one of
I think I've been waiting knowing this
I think we hyped him up
I think he's been sitting there
kind of waiting for something
but then once he did it
I don't know if he was waiting for it from Kendrick
I think he was I think sure he's waiting for it
the amount of times he has mentioned something
about being the best being one of the best
and can't know one fuck with him
and then someone challenges him on that
and then he
he hits back
and then he was and then he's
just like do when I
okay here here is my
synopsis is that people view
hip hop in two different ways
some people view it as an art
and some people view it as a sport
and
I think Drake and Kendrick view it as a
sport they want to be
the best and that's why
that's why big step
what is it's both and that's what makes
the great's the great's when you do
when you are in it in both
ways. And I, I, I kind of agree with that.
But when, when, when, when, when J. Cole's saying he's the best, no, no, I promise you, ain't nobody
better in this fucking industry. I think he's saying his art is better than everyone else's
art. I don't think he's, I don't think he's saying, give me the ball and I'll one on one.
I look at it and I'm like, you're not even willing to fight for your art. Like, yeah, I mean,
and it hurts me. Those are my two, those, I, I,
battle dude it's fucked me up because if if he's going on there and he's doing something he doesn't
even believe in then bow out sure i think that's if if he hasn't been able to sleep for the
first time in 10 years because he's been at such peace why would you why would any grown man
why would you even disrupt your piece why would you say anything why would any grown man want
him to continue living like that i will say as a grown man i get it i understand certain
little things can disrupt your piece.
I understand he probably,
him putting that out and seeing both sides talk about it.
Yeah.
The negativity,
it probably brought up with both sides.
Fuck him.
Fuck him.
He probably real,
I heard Joe Button say,
like,
once you get into that type of like,
even though it's just rat beef,
you,
your lifestyle changes.
It's over.
There's more security.
You just start,
you move different.
Everything.
Dude.
People you think.
you fuck with but they're friends with Kendrick they ain't fucking with you no more like things
change your lifestyle changes and he was like i don't think j cole was ready for that i don't and it's
not like i don't think he was this might be he's not i don't think he's scared he's not scared
of kendrick he's not scared of kendrick in a physical way he's not scared of Kendrick in a
lyrical way, I don't think.
But,
well, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and debate
people about it.
Because they're going to be like, oh, for the rest of,
for the rest of Jay Cole's career, they're going to say,
oh, he ran from Kendrick.
The same way, all the fucking losers
are saying that, well, Drake's ghost,
we've got to get, Drake's ghost riders.
Drake's going to get all of his ghost writers.
It's just like, there's dumb fucking people that are just
surface level fans that don't know anything that want to get under your
skin and they're gonna say that for the rest of ever.
They're gonna say
Jay Cole bowed out of a battle
and
because he was scared of Kendra.
I think what I
from a grown man perspective, I completely
get it. I don't want, I don't
want no Twitter beef. I don't want
to be on Keemstar. Even these
celebrity or these
content creator boxing matches.
I think like that'd be fun to do, but it's like, I don't want to
argue
and put up this fake
we got beef so like
the numbers are better
like I don't want to be
I don't want to be arguing
with someone on
on Twitter and in the replies
or the YouTube comments
or especially publicly
like I don't want any problem
with anyone I don't want to be on
Keem Star
and have attention on my name
I don't want fucking
Yeah.
Like it takes peace away from me.
Right, all right.
Maybe I'm fucked up to where like it's, I feel like it's hard to find peace with my own internal brain.
So when I do have it, I don't want, I don't want a problem with no one.
Yeah.
I agree.
But.
But you also have.
I understand that from a J. Cole for, I understand that that's probably J. Cole's mindset.
but when we're talking rap sport the sport of rap competition of like i'm better than you
no you're not i'm better than you like fuck the big three is big me
and then you're sitting there like i'm fucking better than you and like
now should be the time where like you prove you're better than him and in a rapping way bro
no one's getting killed over J. Cole Kendrick beef.
Okay.
So it's like, dude, just keep it, keep it wrap.
Dude.
And it shouldn't.
I don't agree.
I don't agree.
And it shouldn't be like, I just, I think there's a part of me that doesn't respect someone.
What I can't stand the most is when I scroll through Twitter and I see someone like about to get in a fight and they just sit there like this.
And then the dude starts swinging on them and they're just like this.
And they just like take the punches.
like no fucking fight at all
like at least defend yourself
fucking push him away
I know people have seen these
people will just get swung on
and then and then they'll just
it'll be like the nerd like he's getting
fucking bullied and I hate seeing it
but what I hate is seeing someone
with no
with just no fight
not physically
it doesn't have to be physically
like and I'm not saying
if a motherfucker's getting bullied, it's fucked up.
I'm not saying start swinging back
because a lot of times you'll just get your ass beat even more.
But to just let a motherfucker hit you
and to at least like fucking defend yourself a little bit.
And in this case, rapping,
it's just like, dude, he just said fuck the big three.
It's big me.
He's talking about rap.
He's saying he's better than you.
You've been saying you're better than all of them.
Show some fight.
Okay, here's my thing
That it makes me not even want to listen to his album
Because I'm like, you don't even got any fight in you
Like what you say now
He fought
Keep the heat under the seat like
No
He fought though
Like I know Jay Cole's not keeping the heat under the seat
But now when I heard that bar coming over here
And I just said no
I heard that bar on his album
Jake Cole keep the heat under the seat
There's not that's on the district
Keep the heat under the seat
I got a no
So somebody listening.
There's new albums coming out.
It's like, I don't know what you could say that.
Obviously, it's going to be good as fuck.
It's going to be so good.
But I'm just going to be hearing it.
It's going to be so good.
It's going to be so good.
But I'm going to hear it and just be like, no.
Like, it just, it's not.
Okay.
Let me give my thing.
Let me get my point.
You don't have that fucking.
Let me get my point across.
There's just fight.
I've, I've heard many people say, just keep it rap.
But that shit is boring.
as a battle rap fan
what are the best fights
the best fights are the fucking
thesaurus verse Ilmac
or or fucking
a verb verse hitman
like boys that are going against each other
or fucking Calico
versus loaded Luxe
he's talking about Calico's dad
for five and a half minutes
that's as personal as you can get
your pops wasn't no gangster
he was just another lost dude
that is as personal as it gets those are the best fights the best fights are
naws versus j z it's it's it's at it's it's why i fucked you bitch you fat
motherfucker exactly get money it's too yeah exactly or it's fucking even even if you want to go
in our generation meek mill Drake is personal as fuck yeah and like even the meat mill
Drake stuff like at a meek milk I think Drake did a show in phil
and like a thousand cops were there.
And people are saying Meeks' entourage.
Meek's got 150 people outside.
Like that type of shit.
Have you ever heard of the rap?
Yeah.
Drake talked about it.
He was like,
that beef,
it was,
there was a lot of entertainment in that beef,
but don't get it twisted.
Meek is not someone to play with.
And he said that after the beef.
But I mean,
he said like,
is that,
is that a world tour or your girls tour?
That's not what she meant when she said,
you should open up more.
That's a,
that's,
that's personal.
He was dating
Nicky Minaj at the time.
That's a good bar.
That's a crazy good bar.
That's a battle rap bar.
And push a tea,
obviously,
that's as personal as you can get.
You know,
saying that his friend's going to die.
And obviously you have this,
you have,
those are the best beefs.
I don't think J. Cole wanted to go there.
And so to say,
keep it wrap.
Do you remember when Joyner Lucas and,
uh,
Tori Lane's got into a rap battle
and they kept it rap.
No, you don't remember it
because it's fucking corny.
Oh, I'm going to write
a gazillion multisyllables
to out multisyllable
the other guy who's multisilibrillibaling.
No one cares about that shit.
But I think they could keep it.
They could make it away.
How?
I mean, just,
you don't have to keep it wrap
in the wraps,
but keep it wrapped
so no one dies.
But then you're,
ruining your relationship with another person.
Oh, well.
I think keeping it wrap.
You think Kendrick gave a fuck about your relationship?
Low-key, Kendrick probably reached out.
I think, yes, Kendrick.
I think, though, I think Jay Cole was aside.
But the thing is Kendrick, and please, Lord, let Drake be one of these.
But I think Kendrick was willing to be like, I, like, all right, then if this is how it's got to be, it's how it's got to be.
Like just that the killer dog inside and like I think Drake 41's beefed but I'm down to cut ties
Drake is the same like he'll cut ties with fucking future like he's Drake will it's kind of funny
saying it about Drake but like Drake ain't gonna shoot you but like he's down to like say some shit
he's down to get his homies involved I was going to get your homies involved I don't I mean obviously
Drake's down for it.
We are two gaming white dudes from fucking Dallas.
But like when you hear,
when you hear these like,
like a Joe Button podcast or like,
or like Big Boy or like all these.
I watch a decent amount,
especially it's on my TikTok feed all the time now.
The way they talk about Drake in Toronto is kind of like,
if you're beefing with him,
don't go up there.
And like that could be,
they could be gassing it.
Yeah.
But we don't Drake.
Probably true.
We know Drake.
petty as fuck.
He said it in one of his songs that he's petty as fuck.
He's petty as fuck.
He will.
He'll just like it's not like you're going to like get hurt or something like
you'll just get embarrassed by something.
Yeah.
Something bad is going to happen.
Yeah.
Like something if you go up there.
But it's the same way.
If you if you're beef with Kendrick Lamar and you go to Compton,
fucking hide.
Yeah.
And it's it's you know,
it's the same with Meek Mill and fucking Philly.
Like same thing.
So it's all real
But I and I don't think J-Co has any of that
I don't think
Jayco is just like a family man
I mean yeah yeah now for sure
But like
And he's at peace
And he's at peace
And so it got to a point where
I think he was at a crossroads
Where you either get mad corny
And you I'm gonna compton wompton
Wompton I'm gonna wombo combo
And Compton Hompton
You either do that
or you go,
you got five baby mamas and I fuck three of them
and you know what I mean?
You go that way
and he had to choose and he's like
I don't want to do either one of those.
That's what I think.
The thing is to me
because that's his friend.
He just didn't have to apologize.
I agree with you.
A friend is, bro.
Fuck the big three.
It's just big me.
But I think he's a,
because I think the big issue
which we've known about for years.
You know you're married with kids, bro.
You don't need Kendrick Lamont.
is a fucking friend.
You're Jake and you're on team
Drake. That's not true.
I don't think. If Kendrick Lamar
asked him to go on tour with him,
he would say yes. I mean,
I'm just saying you did a song with like you at least got
Drake. You don't need fucking, you don't need
to be buddy buddy with everyone. Okay, I get what you're saying.
I also didn't know this,
but I was listening to the Joe Button podcast for the first
time ever, which is actually, he's,
it's actually a funny, it's funny as fuck podcast.
But I didn't realize
that the, what?
Joe Putton's insane.
I didn't realize that first person shooter,
they both asked Kendrick to be on it.
Did you know that?
Really?
The rumor is that they asked Kendrick to be on that song.
He said no and then did the like that verse.
That is fucking...
Is that true?
That's what the rumor is.
Can you look that up, Schmeethead?
It would just be weird if that was true because...
Kendrick Lamar first person shooter mode.
Yeah, just look that up.
That would have been crazy.
All three of them on one track.
But he said no.
And then...
Good, because he's got some fucking dog in him.
Why wasn't Kendrick on first-person shooter?
Right down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down.
Right there.
Stop, yeah.
Kendrick has some fucking dog in him.
Baca.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I understand.
I mean, this is just the guy asking.
but yeah but anyway that's just the rumor i don't know man i'm i'm disappointed by it he and my take is
j cole didn't even just keep that to yourself even if it fucked up your piece i agree i wish i didn't
and i bet you he regrets like probably tell like talk to your wife be like fuck man i don't even
i don't like this feeling like i don't even like i fuck with kendrick i don't even like this feeling
but like keep it to yourself and just ride it out
I bet you J. Cole regrets
Obviously J. Cole regrets putting the disc trek out
because he said it he said
that seven minute drill
is it like it tainted that album
because that album is pretty damn good
especially for a throwaway album. It's fucking amazing
I don't think it tainted it. But he thinks it tainted it
so he regrets that and I bet you he regrets
fucking apologizing
Yeah
I bet you he regrets it
But he's also some spiritual hippie-dippy
M motherfucker to where he's like not going to
Yeah
He's going to just like
We just move on from this
Like he's not gonna sit there
He's probably like fuck I probably shouldn't have said shit
And it's hard because
I bet he's at a show
He feels emotional like when you're up on stage
All of your fans like you see all your fans
That really fuck with you
You're like fuck man I made it
Like I'm at peace
peace.
I'm feeling good.
And then I went and did this shit.
And like now I got to address it with these guys.
And they're probably screaming,
fuck Kendrick from the crowd.
Right, right.
He's like,
fuck,
I didn't want this.
I didn't want any of this.
And he might not even plan on speaking on it.
But like up there in the moment.
So I bet someone in the crowd like said,
fuck Kendrick.
Dude,
did you hear it during?
Like he probably was probably like,
fuck man.
He was like,
and then he was like,
and then he just starts talking like,
and he said I would do.
He started yapping.
He started yapping.
And he,
Even while he's happened, he said, and I just heard my man's back there say,
oh, no, don't do this.
Like, he said that on stage.
While he was apologizing, he said he heard his guys in the background say, oh, nah.
He's like, but I'm going to do the shit anyway.
And it's like.
That would have been me.
I wish he hadn't put the track out at all.
Like, did he not have like, if scump was to do some shit, bro, we would all be here like,
don't do it, man.
Yeah, we just did.
that to him like a month ago.
Wait, with what?
Nothing.
But yeah, no, I get what you're saying.
Wait, what was there something?
I'll, yeah.
But yeah, it would be the same thing.
And he would do it anyway.
But what I think happened with what maybe, maybe this is, I'm, I'm grasping at the,
and my North Carolina side is just grasping at things.
Just like there's got to be something that makes sense and and what I think happened
Obviously he had to choose those two roads that I was talking about I think he heard how far
Left
That shit was gonna go between the other two and he was like I don't care that
I don't did you hear it Kendrick and Drake both have of both have dude get ready and apparently it's nuclear
I heard I you there's a
There's a clip from Joe Budden's last podcast where he just says,
basically he had said multiple times that Drake doesn't have it in them anymore.
And he basically said,
I have been proven.
I have no longer going to speak.
Yeah.
I've been proven wrong if the rumors are correct.
And apparently it's going to drop within either 12 hours or three days.
Or never.
Or never.
And then we just.
So we have a emergency pod ready.
Yeah, mehead.
Are you on call?
It could be 3 a.m.
You got to get your ass down here.
Right when...
He said he's on call.
Right when a disc track drops.
Mehead listens to country music.
He doesn't know what we're talking about.
It has to be a real distract.
Can't be a song with like a few shots.
Apparently it's bad.
If it's a nuclear disc track...
God, I hope it's bad.
Kendrick just disdrake.
Drake just...
disc, Kendrick.
We will not listen to it ourselves.
We will come here.
We will record a podcast.
And we will listen to it live.
And that, hopefully.
What if it's 11 p.m.?
We're coming down?
Maybe early next morning.
Because I'm down to it.
You're not going to listen to it the whole night?
I can live with that, I think.
Yeah, me too.
No, we can't.
We have to hear it for the first time here.
And it's going to come out at some shit.
Like if it's 11 midnight, I ain't going to,
I ain't coming down here.
But we can set it up for like, all right,
9, 10 a.m. pod.
So hopefully that is our next pod.
If that is not our next pod,
you'll see we do have a special,
special guess for next week.
I'm not going to say who it is.
We have a special guest?
We have a guess.
Oh.
It's kind of special.
I don't even know.
You know.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, he's all right.
Okay.
Um, but yeah, that's,
that should, um,
that's what we're looking at.
You might, and I'm,
and I'm telling Optic, because usually we record
these, they come out like a week later.
If a disc track drops, we're coming in,
we're reacting to it, and we're talking about it,
and we're dropping this shit immediately.
So I don't know, you could see a video.
I don't even know when this is, it could be out before.
Yeah, like, we don't know.
We're dropping that shit immediately.
I will hack Roger.
computer. Yeah, that's what we're working with, man. We're ready. We're ready for when
they're ready. And then, if not, regularly scheduled podcast again next week. But, um, my, my closing
arguments, my, my closing thoughts, the big three still exists. It still exists. It still exists. It still
exists. It still exists. My final thoughts. I'm sad. I'm sad. I'm hurt. I'm so, my, my North
Carolina in me is is is is aching but also the the as a grown man I'm over 30 years old I
If I understand that if if he needs if he if that's what keeps him at peace
That's what keeps him at peace and I can know I'm okay with that but I mean I think he'll be bronze forever now
I think he will be yeah and that it that kills me to say man that kills me to say
My final thoughts as a grown man I completely get it there is
You live a total different life outside of this rap shit.
You have wife, kids, close friends, family.
Basketball.
Basketball.
Enjoy your life.
Like, that's the purpose of this is to enjoy your life.
As a grown man, I get it, man.
I wish you nothing but peace.
And I'm on the same way of myself, to be honest.
But I think Jay Cole's legacy is a little tainted.
And is it recoverable?
I don't.
He's going to have to come out with some crazy like false profits type vibe and just say the craziest bar to where we're like, holy fuck we get in now.
Yeah.
Like, good for you, J. Cole.
I'm happy for you.
And I wish you the best.
You might still be allowed in the big three.
But to me, J. Cole is big three, but like it's, it's, it's a little tainted.
I'm going to, I'm not going to lie.
I'm going to listen to his shit.
music different now.
In the same way,
in the same way,
I've been listening to Meek,
I haven't really been listening
to Meek Mill's music now.
Something happens and it's kind of tainted
and I kind of see them differently in a way
and then I see them jumping around
like a bunny rabbit for billionaires playing tennis.
Meek Mill, you seen that clip?
No.
Meek Mill played tennis against like a billionaire,
lost.
And I think instead of paying the debt,
the billionaire made him do like five,
500 bunny jump bunny hop jumps uh so i just can't i'm not saying that's on that's j cole
where j cole is at right now that's not drake's fault but to be fair but uh i don't i feel
i feel his legacy's a little tainted as with the as a rapper and how we looked at you we thought
you had that dog in you to fight for the top spot
But apparently, to you, it's just about the art, which is respectable.
But sometimes, the music just might not hit the same for certain bars for me now.
That's my last thoughts.
Yeah.
All right.
It's going to do it for episode 1-0, whatever the hell we were on.
This episode was also brought to you by Veryheel.
Shout out to them.
Shouts out of very help.
But yeah, that's going to do it for this episode of the five guys' needhead played out outro music.
