The Flycast - PLEASE FIX THIS, WE’RE ANGRY | The Flycast Ep. 108

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I like watching the NBA. I don't have to play ranked to like Call the Duty. That's what you've been doing? Yes. But that's mostly because everyone's streams are dying and we need to play something that people like to watch. And so people... Bro, I was...
Starting point is 00:00:19 Welcome back to another episode of the podcast. What episode are we on, Schmeet? Come on. meathead? It's like 10. It doesn't matter, but it's just how I like to start the pod.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Yeah, it's a hundred something. We're above a hundred, so everything else just the chair. We never even thought we'd make it here. We're switching it up a little. We do, you know, in the flycast? I mean, sometimes maybe we have sponsors. But other than that, we don't, we... We get to do what we want.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I mean, we have sponsors. And that's... This is sponsored by Veri Hill, but usually... But regardless, usually our sponsors let us do whatever. we do what we want. If we want to just straight pod, we straight pod. If we want to listen to copywritten stuff so Opti can't make ad money, we do that.
Starting point is 00:01:22 If we... Add money, smash money. That's what I've always said. Here in the fly cast, we do what we want. A lot has happened in the past week. Oh, we got some stuff to talk about for sure. I guess let's get the depressing stuff over with. Well, first, let's see, have you been up to anything?
Starting point is 00:01:41 Oh, my God. I've never seen you bail like that. Before I get into my week, is there anything that you would like to? I mean, I guess so. Yeah, I went to Italy. Yeah, I was Italy. It was crazy. It was a totally different world.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah. I have pretty bad culture shock a lot of the time. And luckily, because the people in Italy are so nice, I didn't have that bad of culture shock. Because I got it really bad in Mexico City. really, really bad in Paris. What does culture? I know what you mean by culture shock, but like, like you're just like, like this shit like affected you.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Like, well, Paris did. Like when you walk when you walk outside on your own and you don't recognize anything, you don't recognize the language, the people, the culture, the buildings, the geography, anything. You don't recognize anything. You kind of like freak out. And I did that. I didn't even know what was happening to me in Paris. I kind of like that feeling.
Starting point is 00:02:47 See, I hate it. Blake's the same way. When I go to, like, Mexico or like when I travel, I feel like free. Blake will go into a, Blake will say, I can get drunk and just wander. Which is not ideal of what you should do in a foreign country. See, if I was drunk, I might be fine. But Blake was telling me, he would go to Italy or he went to like little towns in France. and he would play 21 questions at the counter
Starting point is 00:03:13 or like charades at the counter trying to figure out you know what he was looking for dude I would shit myself yeah I don't know what it is because I know it's not it's human beings but I I'm like I don't want to be a pro I have like I don't know but Italy was great because almost everyone speaks English and if they didn't if it was just a little bit of English
Starting point is 00:03:34 like here and there they were still like extremely nice like how that works the feeling of disorientation experienced by someone who is suddenly subjected to an unfamiliar culture. Finally, schmeet. Let's go. Finally. If I, um, I remember, yeah, when I go to different countries, I feel just like a sense
Starting point is 00:03:56 of freedom and like, I want, I mean, maybe it's the drinks. I remember we went to, maybe it's the brothels. The first, maybe it's the brothels. The first table five tournament. It was in, I think, Cologne, Germany. And they put us Like it was only two teams It was a European team
Starting point is 00:04:15 It was before Halo 5 came out They sent Optic And the European team To just like play like a show match basically To like present Halo 5 At Halo 5 at like packs or something I think it was And they so they flew us out
Starting point is 00:04:31 And they had us in some random Like I wouldn't It's not a hotel It was like a hostel Hostel Were you in rooms with other people? No.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It was like, uh, I mean, three, four three is three for three, but they wouldn't do that. That'd be crazy. Fly off the guy out of us rooming with fucking like,
Starting point is 00:04:57 people off the street. Um, I, I guess I didn't realize it was an hotel. It was like, uh, I'm guessing this place had like, 10 to 20 rooms.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Okay. But it was just super small. Some. Randotown. People didn't speak English. Yeah. Like are the one person that worked like no one at the hotel
Starting point is 00:05:18 besides this one like kind of younger girl she just maybe like 25 or something worked at the front. She spoke English. But besides that it was just me, it was so fun bro. It was definitely top five times in my life. Me, Ace, flame and assault just like
Starting point is 00:05:34 it's such a funny dumb fuck group to just roam. Just a runner. this random town I don't think I think Cologne Germany is a big city but they had us in a small
Starting point is 00:05:48 one like something like a Hagerstown like a Hagerstown The Hagerstown of Cologne No one spoke no one spoke English and we were just like roaming trying to pick up like little words to say because we're like trying to get food and stuff but it's like
Starting point is 00:06:04 they just don't speak English I don't know it was just it was so different but it was like it was so fun just like roaming the streets and figuring out how like because we just got dropped off like there wasn't no one like there wasn't like a loti like i remember we went to like london and like lottie helped us out at like yeah yeah yeah east person like someone's like helping us out and like they just dropped us off and we had to figure out how to like exchange money like we were roaming the streets looking for like exchange places and we ended up like renting bikes and then just like getting drunk and
Starting point is 00:06:38 riding bikes all around this like a little town and it was definitely fun i i definitely enjoy going to different places i i went whenever they told me about going to italy because we were like why didn't you go why didn't you go whatever they first brought it up thank god you didn't by the way yeah we'll get to that uh whenever they first brought it up i was like i wasn't against it but I was kind of like then after a little bit I was like man like I'm I'm at my highest sub count I've been for for a minute I mean the apocalypse is coming soon but yeah my my highest sub count I've been at it a minute my streams have been like pretty consistently good like this is one of those times that I go like I go off to whether it's Colorado whether it's to L.A
Starting point is 00:07:29 whether it's Boston fucking some Orlando cod event or this is the one time I'm just going to say no unless they they could have forced me but I think Zinny was like Zinny was ecstatic to go yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:07:46 well Seth was going so yeah Seth was going so Zinny was very excited to go along with but they asked me to go and I was thinking about it and I was like no this is I'm at it I'm in a pretty good space right now
Starting point is 00:08:01 I was at that time I was where I'm working out every day. I'm on a good schedule. Like, I was just on my shit. And I was like, this doesn't happen very often. But I've been on my shit lately, and I don't want to fuck this up. I know I'm going to go there and we're going to be drinking
Starting point is 00:08:17 every day. I know I'm going to be drinking. That's just what I like. I just, maybe I get culture shocked, so I just drink it away. Maybe I do go and I'm like, uncomfortable. I don't know. I think I just like, I land and I'm like, I can do whatever the fuck I want. There's not really any responsibilities.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Anything we as Optic have to do over there? Like, I can show up drunk. Not drunk. Like, I, I'm never, no one ever knows I'm drunk. Yeah, yeah. Like, even at events, if you see me, I'm probably hammered. I've, but hammered in a way to where I've just, I've drank a lot. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Genetics, it's, genetics, I can handle alcohol pretty well. Anyways, um, yeah, I don't know. I just, I was in a good spot or I was in a good place. I didn't want to go. And then thank God. God, I didn't go. Because I think on the last pot, I talked about it a little bit. I was saying, like, Milo, I think I was just talking about how it's been, like, a rough few weeks.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Like, first, my, like, my mom calls me about my grandma and then, like, a week or, like, Milo's. So I think, like, that's the biggest issue going on. And then, like, Milo's fucking legs are giving out. And we're, like, what the fuck's going on with this? And then I don't know if last pod. we got his lab results back. Milo, my dog. It's my girlfriend's dog,
Starting point is 00:09:43 but I've been living with him for like two years straight. So pretty much my dog is we were mom and dad. I don't know if I talked to, I don't know where I was at, where we were at last pod, but Milo has had the past like three weeks. His legs started giving out, and then we started noticing like cis on his back and then like within a few days we're feeling more and we're like all right we got to get these
Starting point is 00:10:07 checked out we ended up like he ended up getting like put him under i don't know if you consider it surgery but they like cut out the cysts sent it off for um lab testing and then we i don't know like a week or two or like a week goes by and mylo's like he's just getting worse like his legs are just getting worse and worse movement he can like barely walk and we're like, all right, this is bad. We need to take him to like something else. Like we didn't even have the results back at this point. And we went to some other place.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I think we got like x-ray scans or something. And the lady there searched up his like medical records. And the, the cis results did come back, but this place still hadn't contacted us. What? And she looked, yeah, she found the medical records. And apparently he has cancer. so we were pissed about that that like they like how do you
Starting point is 00:11:08 like how do you like how not tell you guys reached out to us yet that our dog especially since yeah dogs at home and it's not in the hospital and he's losing like we're waiting on the results but he's getting worse so he took him to a new place and then he got x-rays and stuff and they were saying there wasn't really anything
Starting point is 00:11:25 um wrong with his bones and shit they were like this just has to be like the cancer and then she said she think she sees like a little thing on his, uh, I don't know, like a little bit of cancer on his, I don't even remember liver, fucking something.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So we were just like, and I get that news. Um, first off, I was streaming and then Michelle like, text me and was like, hey, can you come here? And I, yeah, I'm just like, fuck. I get up and I go and she says, my lowest cancer. I go back and I'm like, about to cry. And I'm just like, I got in my stream. My dog has cancer.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And it was just like, it fucked me up. got off and we're like sitting there figuring out what to do and then um as the days just go on he was just getting worse and worse and then it turned into like him not really being able to walk to him just like laying there and like panting and like yelping and stuff and we're like he like he's in pain yeah so we take him to um or they gave us pain meds when we took him in for like x-rays and stuff and we were giving him his pain meds at first it seemed like it helped like because he would just like be up all night just like yelping and just in some kind of i don't know if like i don't know how fucking cancer works if it's like in his bones or what but the milo was just
Starting point is 00:12:48 like in pain and it was just like so sad to see and um he's just getting worse and worse his pain's getting worse and worse we um we take him in or we get like a prescription for even more pain meds and we give him that and we're like okay like this like this should do it like we just need to figure out the pain part because he's just like in so much pain like if he has if he's if he's like pissing
Starting point is 00:13:15 himself or like shitting himself or like has to be in a fucking wheelchair with it where the little back legs are in the wheelchair yeah it's like we can do that but like he's in so like we have to get this pain figured out so we were basically up all night it was like 11 p.m. We were like giving him
Starting point is 00:13:33 this new medicine. We're like, hopefully he knocks out and he doesn't. We double up on his medicine. Again, he doesn't. We, like, give him even a little more. And he's still just like,
Starting point is 00:13:41 it's not, we're just hoping, like, like, you're a little dog, like, and these are, like, painkillers and, like, muscle, like, how the fuck aren't you just, like, knocked out? Yeah. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:13:51 and it just wasn't working. He was in so much pain. And then weirdly, like, we were, like, sleeping on the floor with him. And it was just, like, we couldn't, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:14:02 he was just miserable. and then we'd like pick him up take him outside to potty and then when we would take him outside it was like he would like calm down and he would he never would do this usually when we take him outside like something he'll run around piss shit or whatever but like usually he'll just like a lot of times he'll just like stand on the back porch and just like watch our other dog chewie run around but my little would just like walk away from us and then just like go lay in the yard and we're like that's fucking weird like that's shit like dogs apparently
Starting point is 00:14:33 dogs when they're dying or like know they're dying they want to like go be alone and like just die off yeah um and he was like doing that we're like is that what this is like it's the whole time he's like when he's inside he's like panting and he's just like yelping and doing these random little yelps but then when we take him outside he just like he starts calming down and he just wanders off to the edge of the yard and like goes and lays down and we're like that's so we're like fuck man like he's we're like pretty much coming to terms like we have to take him to the ER right now because he's in so much pain and obviously
Starting point is 00:15:10 we can't do anything about it. Hopefully like we've, we're discussing we're like what do like we, I mean like we can't just let him live through this pain like we might have to put him down but let's just go to the ER and let's like don't put an IV in him though like that should always
Starting point is 00:15:28 fucking works when when they're sticking a fucking needle in you to give you something like that's the shit that really works and we take him there and we sort of like drop him off they tell us what they're going to do they're going to like hook him up to an iv give him fluids give him like this pain shit blah blah blah this was like six in the morning you all have been up all night yeah they hadn't slept and then we drop him off we come home i sleep maybe like 50 minutes wake up again at like 8 a.m or something i can't remember if i was like i can't remember if i was like i can't remember remember if I
Starting point is 00:16:03 went and streamed or not. I don't know if I did. But like streaming was like helping me keep my mind off it. As weird as it is, usually when something bad's happening, I like to just disappear in my bed and kind of like rot away
Starting point is 00:16:20 and like sort of feel bad for myself. And just fucking just rot away and depressed in bed and look at my phone and smoke and eat food or fucking whatever. Um, but we wake up that dropped him off at like 6 a.m., wake up a few hours later.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Then my girlfriend gets a call and it's like, hey, this is pretty much what's going on. We can't do, there's nothing else we can do. He's still in a lot of pain. And yeah, he's pretty much just like sitting here suffering.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Like we can't give, like if we give him more, like he might just fucking die from this shit. Yeah. And so he pretty much came to the conclusion, like there's literally nothing we can do. The only thing we could do would be, would be immediately have them take them into surgery and do and start like chemotherapy or whatever. I guess that's the same term they use for dogs. And it'd be like chemotherapy and all that shit and basically start that.
Starting point is 00:17:31 but it was like he was in so much it was like well we're going to take him through chemotherapy he's going to be like he's already been miserable for the last three weeks like have him go through that and radiation and like who's to say his legs
Starting point is 00:17:48 would even start working again who's to say the pain would even go away like he would just we'd go through that that would be how itself and then even through like looking up research sometimes they still only live like a month couple months six months six months after that and it just so we were just like what would be the fucking like just drag his
Starting point is 00:18:06 life out even longer to this more just living through fucking hell just for the sake of us being able to keep him so we pretty much came up to the conclusion like we're gonna actually have to put him down like this is it seems so fucking unreal that like this was happening and uh basically we made the decision to put him down and we went in saw him he was fucking miserable when we saw him they let us hold him he had a little IV in his arm they said we can take all the time with them that we want
Starting point is 00:18:44 you know we sat there for like 20 minutes or something but he was just in so much pain we like we just have to get this over with and they the lady came in with all the stuff that they put into the IV to like first they give them like an anesthesia or something to like knock them out and then they inject the stuff that like stops their heart so we basically just like held on to them and they put them to sleep and and then they um put them to rest and then so yeah my our dog um pass away died of lymphoma cancer and i don't know man if It was just, it was like, I guess the second hardest time of my life.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Because first would be my dad just like randomly passing away. But then fucking this shit, bro, this shit is fucking hard. And I did not expect it to. Because I'm kind of like, I said this on, I don't know, like Twitter or something, but I'm sort of like a realist and like I joke about death. and I joke about like my death and like not in like a sick way it's just it's the fucking reality of the world
Starting point is 00:20:01 yeah and that obviously everyone's gonna fucking die it sucks and sometimes you're just fucking unlucky but like I don't know it just it hits so hard like the sad part it's like I've only known or the crazy part is I've only known that dog for like two years but since literally first meeting like my girlfriend
Starting point is 00:20:22 always tells me like That dog never liked anyone. Didn't like, like, other guys she talked to, other friends she would have over, like her girlfriend she'd have. Like, the dog, like, never liked anyone. And then she said it was so weird. Like, the first time he met me, he was like, he wasn't all on me, but he was, like, curious about me. And he was like, I don't know, we were, like, friends instantly.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So it's just like, since the first day I met him and his mom. and Milo just like accepted me right away it's like we've been together every single day and I've seen him every single day and I've taken care of him every single day
Starting point is 00:21:01 and even when when Michelle would like go visit her parents or have to like go to Kentucky for the horse shit with her dad or anytime she had to be out of town like Milo was with me and it was always fun
Starting point is 00:21:14 and he just had like a funny little personality because he like didn't really like anyone but like that made it cooler because he liked me so much yeah I met him once. It was just it was so, I don't know
Starting point is 00:21:28 dude, I didn't think I'd take it as hard as I did. And Michelle didn't think, Michelle didn't think I'd take it as hard as I did because like, I never really, I think I've only cried in front of Michelle once, but it was like
Starting point is 00:21:44 a blackout drunk cry. And we were both like crying to each other. It was fucking weird actually. Like if both of us look at that, Like, that was why the fuck we're even trying? It was fucking weird. But besides that, like, she thinks I'm like, I try to be this, like, tough guy and, like, not show emotions.
Starting point is 00:22:02 So when I'm just, like, breaking down over Milo, it's just, I don't know, man. It was just, like, it was just fucking different. I mean, it's hard. So crazy. We were in, we were in Italy talking about it. And because, obviously, I was trying to keep up with you guys. And I, and I,
Starting point is 00:22:21 I looked at Hector I said I hope Nick's alright man I don't I don't think it's looking good and then Hector started talking to me about his dog and he started tearing up and Hector never cries I've never that's the first time I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:22:37 but his eye started getting red and I was just like dude it's like a pet I mean I've had Mace less than a year and he was in the hospital I was freaking the fuck out that night or those three two nights yeah it's just like it's it's like a pet is so different like it's a different kind of love it's all it's unconditional it's almost yeah it's the purest love there is it's like it's like it's like having a kid i'm assuming i don't have a kid but yeah yeah i would say dogs and
Starting point is 00:23:08 children and like parents yeah but even then it's like you kind of love them conditionally like if my mom murdered someone, I'd still love her. I'm trying to think of conditions that would happen for me to not love my mom. Well, they could definitely turn. People could turn on you even if you love them unconditionally. The point is, like, dogs love is, like, the purest, those unconditional love. Like, it's just so different. And it was just so hard.
Starting point is 00:23:43 It just, it happens so fucking fast. Yeah. It's like, it's not like, when my mom, my mom's like recently been telling me, like, my grandma's not doing too well. And like, like, they kind of, it kind of fucks me up. But my grandma's also like 96, 97, something like that. So it's like, I've prepared myself mentally for 20 years. Yeah, yeah. She's been saying she's going to die since he was, since 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yeah. So it's like, you kind of like, you have that in your head and like you're what, obviously you're going to be sad as fucking. when my grandma does pass, I'm going to be sad as fuck. Yeah. But you kind of prepare for your, and I've had older dogs pass away, but like, you're just, they're old. Yeah, they're 17. You've been preparing yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah. My other dog literally died at 17, and it was like, that's a dog I had my whole life. And I was sad, but at that point, I think I moved out to the scoff house. And I was like, damn, like, just hope my mom's okay. Like, Lacey was the best dog, like, RIP Lacey. but then this it was just like this dog that I'm like that I grew to love so much and when I picture
Starting point is 00:24:53 when I looked into my future it was like this is the first like relationship I've been in where I like see a future and yes I could see us getting engaged and married and having a kid so and we talked about like Milo would be the best older brother as a fucking dog yeah yeah and just like
Starting point is 00:25:11 you joke about that and then within three fucking weeks, you just like go through hell with him. Within three weeks, you're like, all right, he's growing cis. What the fuck is this shit? I mean, it was probably like a whole month process, but it was like, all right, he's growing sis.
Starting point is 00:25:31 What the fuck is this? His back legs are looking weak. Okay, now he can barely move his back legs. Okay, now he's not moving his back legs at all. Okay, now he's yelping in pain and like all of that shit just within like, And now he's in so much pain we have to put him to sleep. And then, finally, obviously finding out he has fucking cancer, it's like, you just don't ever. You just don't think about that.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yeah. And you, I mean, you kind of think, like, what if something happens? But it's like, you just don't, like, it was like a nightmare, like, fever dream that was just reality. It's just like, I'm staying up with Michelle, like, it was two, three to week period. The last two, three weeks, it was just like, we're, she's. sleeping on the floor with him after a while he's helping so much I lay down there with him
Starting point is 00:26:19 we're like barely we're barely getting any sleep he's waking us up in the morning with his pain then it kind of goes away then it comes back then it goes away then we're taking him to see this doctor and that doctor and we're doing this doing that getting this medication and just all of that within two to three
Starting point is 00:26:35 weeks and then it's just like boom we have to put him to sleep and now myler's gone forever and it was just fucking and tough and it's still tough I've cried every day I cry usually in the morning
Starting point is 00:26:50 after my stream then like once at night breakfast lunch and dinner but it's just I don't know I I like going back looking at this pictures it's just
Starting point is 00:27:08 very hard like we moved into a house he had a yard you like we started a new game of him like chasing his ball and then for that just like to not be a thing anymore and now here's little footsteps walking around and obviously Michelle has had him since he was a baby and like seeing her go through it but which she's been fucking
Starting point is 00:27:35 she's a trooper she's been really she's been doing really good and like I thought she was going to break the fuck down and like lose her mind. Yeah. But she's been she's been doing as good as she can. She's even like
Starting point is 00:27:53 started going to the gym again just like force herself to do something because I think we were both like set on kind of just like rotting in bed and we just didn't. Like it's just that depressing. Like I just don't give up like what's. It was almost like a what's the point of living
Starting point is 00:28:08 without Milo. Yeah, yeah. As fucking insane as that sounds. but I was like, I was like, everything kind of sucks more. Like I, like when I stream and get off stream, like I don't, I don't get to come lay with you and Milo. Yeah. And chewy. It's like, everything's waking up.
Starting point is 00:28:27 You don't, I don't get to like take Milo out. I don't get to see Milo, like, come up the struggle to get up the bed steps to get on top of the bed. Like, I don't, like, everything's like when I'm eating. I don't get to look down and see Milo. It's just like everything fucking. sucks more now. And it's just tough not being those like little things
Starting point is 00:28:48 of him in a car ride and hearing his little footsteps around the house or it's like we're laying down in bed at like midnight about to fall asleep and we hear him in the other room like just eating like eating his food like down the hall just in his own little
Starting point is 00:29:06 fucking world. And it's just it's been a tough we put him down Saturday. What's today? Thursday? Thursday. It's almost been a week, but it just fucking sucks.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. That is extremely tough. It's just the fact that it happened all so soon. Like, we didn't have a chance that even, like, do anything, or it's like, when we took him, even when we took him in for his, like, last day, we were like, all right, we'll take him to the ER. They'll hook him up to IVs and stuff. And they'll give us, like, they were like, we can give you a fentanyl patch.
Starting point is 00:29:42 to like put on him and that should help with the pain if you do really want to take him home but he isn't a lot of pain and we're like too we're just gonna like I wanted to take him home for one day take him in the car go to Starbucks get a pup cup like yeah
Starting point is 00:29:59 lay out in the sun for seven hours like just hang out with him for one last day and we just didn't get to do that yeah and just fucking happens so fast it's all fucked and I don't know
Starting point is 00:30:18 I'm like makes me like angry and and then like I feel like if I was someone else listening to this and being like dude you only knew the dog
Starting point is 00:30:28 like two years like that's all long I don't think so it's a long time I think you're overthinking it I think you're overthinking it I think anybody out there that has had a dog
Starting point is 00:30:37 yeah the support has been insane yeah I mean like I thought I'd catch seed like a few straight shots or something or like not even that but I thought like people were like damn like sorry for your loss and then
Starting point is 00:30:50 but it's been like it was like an insane amount of like yeah like everyone just people I think people relate more than I feel like I've never really felt this feeling and this me like tweeting it out and putting on my Instagram that this is
Starting point is 00:31:05 happening to me and have or happen to Milo a lot of people are like I can like I can relate. Yeah. Like I've been there. There's some stuff that we go through that. You're like, I don't think a lot of people could relate to that, but almost everyone can relate to that.
Starting point is 00:31:22 To losing a dog and losing, losing a pet. I mean, it's fucking tough, man. It's so tough. Bro, my streams, like the little. I think I took that. I took that day off, but then the next day I stream, because I don't know, just fucking distract. Do something. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Do something. which I'm like proud of myself for even like doing anything because I'm totally the type that just like shuts down when when something bad happens. But stream was helping distract, but my streams were just like so shit. I was just not fucking into, I just like didn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:32:00 That being said. I was just like angry and I don't know. That being said, I did tune into one of your streams. Yesterday. And you're raw at Halo now. I've gotten What happened
Starting point is 00:32:13 I've gotten a lot better Bro People thought What the fuck Guilki Kalki text me And said And thought I was on Adderall
Starting point is 00:32:20 Really? Yeah I was like bro I thought you were taking Yeah I popped in yesterday And you were Duo queuing with Tommy
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah lucid And you cued up against fucking Matt and Dead Zone And you guys beat them Normal dead zone I mean they had a shitter
Starting point is 00:32:38 On their team But like But still be that shit. You used to be the shitter. Three, four weeks ago, I was that shitter. Yeah. I was looking at your shot and I was like, wait a second. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:32:49 I've gotten so much better in the past month. The past, like, I would say the past two weeks, something just like switched. I'm hoping that happens when I started playing good. And then the next day I played pretty good as well. Then the next day, maybe not as good. But then the day after that played good again, I was like, bro, I think I'm getting good again.
Starting point is 00:33:08 It took a fucking month. because I've been playing, I think, I just started playing Halo Infinite I think just over a month ago. And I'm like starting to get... To get it back? To get it back a little bit. And like, like, I still say like,
Starting point is 00:33:26 I mean, I'm still like, I'm still not that good. I definitely like couldn't compete or anything. But even I think APG, I mean, he could just be saying this, but he was like, I think, I searched and I matched with APG on my team and like two other good people
Starting point is 00:33:45 when we're playing like four other good people I'm like great so if we lose it's on me because that's just how you're the odd man out yeah it's like no man you need to stop fucking believing in yourself again ABG said that damn and then like after the game he was just like
Starting point is 00:34:03 see man like I fucking told you then like the game man it's like then people from history and were like Like, ABG was saying, like, you've gotten pretty good. Like, you could probably actually compete. I was just like... You're like... I was like, damn.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I ain't had this feeling in so long. But, I mean, I'm still not fucking, like... What's your rank like? I'm probably, like, top 20 in the world. But, like, that's not that good on Hela. Like, I mean, it's good. But, like, bro, people all the time ask me in my stream, they're like, how the fuck are you
Starting point is 00:34:36 24 like 2460 2,400 and 6th like what the fuck am I even supposed to say my rank dude 2460 like how the fuck are I saying like get these 3 for 3 for 3 thank you for making a great game sort of
Starting point is 00:34:54 thank you for balancing out what Halo once was and what it could be not doing it as crazy Halo 5 shit but also making it feel like Halo but holy fuck somebody bottled it somebody bottled the rank system every other rank system counts down to number one
Starting point is 00:35:15 and you want to be number one you guys count it up for some reason and it doesn't make any sense bro you can be 1500 onyx and you can be 3,000 on it those are two different ranks bro those are three different ranks
Starting point is 00:35:31 that's the difference between ascendant and immortal Bro, there's a difference between like 2K Onyx and 1500 Onyx is absolute pig shit players. No offense. That it's like you. But like you shouldn't be the top rank in Hala. I know. I was like I shouldn't be able to sign on. I solo cued to Onyx.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I did. Me. It's stupid. I can I shouldn't be able to get. And I play Cod a little bit. I shouldn't be able to get on Cod and hit fucking top 250. like I shouldn't be able to hit and the only reason I even hit
Starting point is 00:36:08 iridescent is because I'm like playing with good people sometimes. Yeah. Like I shouldn't be able to hop on the fucking game I'm not that good at and reach the top fucking rank. Share the top share onyx with like me
Starting point is 00:36:23 say it was onics for call of duty. Me and fucking octane should not be sharing the same rank. Yeah. Me and fucking Skies should not be, me and Shotsie should not be sharing the same rank. It's just very true. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Like the people, it's such a gap. It's such a skill gap. Even between like 1,500 onyx and 1,800 onyx and then like 1,400 onyx is like a gap. And it's just like, there's so many gaps at the top rank. And the thing is, onyx is such a tough name, bro. Like if Onyx was the,
Starting point is 00:37:02 if it was the top 250 players in the world or the top 200 players I don't know how many people are constantly playing Halo if it was the top 200 players in the world are on it. Halo should be like top 50 there's not enough players to go that shit would be sick and then you could go from
Starting point is 00:37:19 then you could go obviously you got your gold platinum diamonds whatever but you could have like master you could have like fucking other other halo plasma You have other halo terms That would be also sick
Starting point is 00:37:35 It's not too late to do that dude Yeah, that's what I'm saying It's not too late It's not too late Please fix it We want to watch We want to watch lucid and And renegade and formal
Starting point is 00:37:49 And now Nick We want to watch them Race to number one Bro at least give us some sort of content Let them race to number one If they redid ranks the game would blow not blow up
Starting point is 00:38:04 but the game summit would play it every day I guarantee you summit would play it every day the ranks so where like the top rank
Starting point is 00:38:09 was super or there was like say a top 50 at this point you couldn't call it onics you'd have to call it top 50
Starting point is 00:38:15 or call it top 50 and then no don't call it top 50 okay well make it call it something cool make it something to where like
Starting point is 00:38:23 only literally only like 50 people can get this fucking rank like there shouldn't be 1500 people and I yeah it should be It should be the top 150, I think. I looked up the
Starting point is 00:38:34 scale of population ranks, and it's like... How many radiance are there? There's so many... Like, Onyx is like the third most popular rank. I think it's like Diamond 5, Diamond 4, and then like Onyx. Really? Yeah. I'm just...
Starting point is 00:38:55 It's up there. When it should be the least fucking popular rank, So Radiant is the top 500 in Valerate. Yeah, we don't, we have two hundred. Call the duty is the top 250. And Apex, Apex is the top 500, I think, are predators. So I think it should be the top 150. Like that is the, it's the blue, why is Halo do it so different?
Starting point is 00:39:26 They have the blueprint laid out. No one gives a shit about the rank. I don't give a shit about, like I'm like 20th in the world. I don't give a shit about my rank because it just means nothing. It means nothing. It's like cool to, at first it was, at first it was kind of cool because I was horrible. And then I was like coming back and I was like, all right, let me try to like, let me try to win games.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Is Onyx after Diamond? Yeah. Dude. You say it's onyx after diamond? Yeah. Yeah. What? Platinum Diamond Onyx.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Dude, after Diamond? after diamond in Valerite there's Ascendant Then there's immortal Then there's Radiant There's three other ranks after Diamond After Diamond Yeah after Diamond and Apex is
Starting point is 00:40:11 Master And then I think yeah Predator after that So there's two ranks It shouldn't go straight from Diamond To the top rank Dude it's the thing where like
Starting point is 00:40:23 1500 Onix is I don't think there's even any difference. Like there's a dude barcode who's 3,000 Onyx, which it really just comes down to grinding. Yeah. And like the way they made the rank system now is like, it's you either get plus seven or
Starting point is 00:40:38 lose seven per win. As long as you win more, like you're going to gain CSR. So you don't get more for how well you do? It's only one's lost. They're, I think at lower rankings, that's kind they like figure out how to
Starting point is 00:40:54 do your account sort of. to where like if you're contributing nothing and constantly getting shit on you'll get like plus four or five for a win but if you're fucking dominating statistically you'll get like plus 12 plus 15 yeah yeah and that's how it starts off but I think once you get into onyx
Starting point is 00:41:11 and higher I think it's maybe once you get into onyx it's just like a plus seven minus seven so like this dude barcode who's I don't I think they got like top six or top eight but he's like 3,000 onyx but that's just because he's a matchmaking grinder And he plays with another pro kid, and it's like, they just constantly win because, like, no one gives a fuck, really. But they set it out to be like, well, let's hit 3,000 onics.
Starting point is 00:41:38 So, like, they're trying their asses all trying to hit this. But like, even 3,000, I think 3,000 onics and 1,500 onics look the exact same. That's insane. Like the ranks are both the exact same. And those are like worlds apart. Those are like two ranks apart. Not even like, yeah. That's the difference between being a low diamond and.
Starting point is 00:41:55 apex and a product like number one pred it's like the game is completely different yeah that's wild how do you bottle it that bad the blueprint ah the blueprint is laid out I think if they changed the ranks
Starting point is 00:42:12 it would if they did something to make it to make the ranks look dope of like I'm trying to get this yeah give it awards give or give rewards give oh my god that guy has his his his his head is a top 50 helmet he's is a clips by the sun behind him or some shit like make it look fucking cool and then people are going to be like oh my god who it oh
Starting point is 00:42:36 is that really renegade and then you see his helmet you're like that's fucking renegade look at his helmet that is what people play for yeah that's what people play for people don't play for this fucking look to see what how many skins i bought in the store like that's cool but that's not what people play for that's what people buy for and it's Yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's gonna be fixed, but moral of the story is I'm getting better. You're getting better.
Starting point is 00:43:11 You're getting better. Quick. You're raw now. Bro, it was so. I'm trying to get good again, but I don't know if I have the passion, but I'm, I'm fighting internal every day, every day. When I started playing Halo again, it was like. Good.
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Starting point is 00:44:30 It was a thing. It made my streams entertaining because I was bad and it would genuinely piss me off and I'm talking shit to kids. I mean, I'm not actually saying it to them but in my stream, if they were to rewatch my stream,
Starting point is 00:44:43 they were like, damn, Maniac fucking hates me. But like it was fun at first, fun at first, just being so bad and like trying to get better and then I show a little bit of hope, but then I'm back to shit again,
Starting point is 00:45:01 and then I'm playing like shit. And then it was like, that sort of became like a theme of my stream. And then now it's, now I'm at a point where like I'm getting better. And it's almost like a more, I just expect to do pretty good now or like at least decent. At least not the shit the fucking cheats. Like I don't want anyone watching to think I'm like that fucking good because I'm not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Like a lot, I always consider, I always consider myself like I'm just another matchmaking shitter and it pisses me off. Like, even yesterday I'm playing and it's like, how am I not dominating these fucking nubes? And it just pisses me off. But like, it's gotten to a point now where with my streams, I'm like, kind of getting bored. I'm like, okay, I've like, I've gotten better. Everyone in the chat's noticing, like, people are like, damn, okay, maniacs actually
Starting point is 00:45:51 gotten pretty good. So I'm like raging less. and I just feel like more bored with the game. I don't know. Like now I'm just like doing pretty good or like decent every game. And like occasionally I like have this good game. But it's like it's like I'm just more bored to when I was just like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And just raging nonstop and wanting to slay my controller and changing my dead zone settings. And change in FOV talking to chat about it. Everyone's laughing. Like that was the thing. And now it's just like, okay, I've not changed my dead zones, not changed any settings. Like, I'm stuck on this. I like playing on this.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I play pretty good. And now I'm just like, fuck, I'm kind of like, like, I was even thinking about playing in like the cloud nine tourney. But Milo. Yeah. Had to take care of Milo that day. And so now I'm like thinking about like, I kind of want to play an attorney. But like, like, even when I, it's so fucking crazy how it is now compared to what it used to be.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Like, I used to search matchmaking. And if, if, if it was. like eight good players like I didn't even think about it like I'm just another one of those like I just didn't think about it like oh okay this is a good lobby got to try like back in fucking
Starting point is 00:47:08 any halo halo two halo three halo reach halo four halo five like any fucking halo like when it was a stacked lobby it was just like okay I got to try this you were a pro player I was just one of them now it's like now it's like if I met like when I matched into that lobby last night
Starting point is 00:47:25 you saw, I was like, oh shit. Oh, this was literally yesterday. Play that again? Did you just go to my Twitch and find this clip? Fucking Christ. Dude, those fights are so hard, dude. You can get fucking turned on. Those fights are fucking impossible.
Starting point is 00:47:48 But like this motherfucker. I mean, you're playing stellar, right? Yeah. Who was that playing? That's stellar. I mean, that's not stiller who turned on you, but like, professor Hunter, Professor
Starting point is 00:48:00 Stellar and someone else Think gun flexion or some shit No, that's Beuler Bueller Not stellar No, there's still It said seller No, professor
Starting point is 00:48:12 Oh shit, yeah you're right What the fuck? I mean that's a decent lobby We ended up losing that game And I blame Ace Of course Because Ace hasn't been playing that much And Ace Ace, Ace
Starting point is 00:48:23 I return to Halo Infinite and like I feel like I have the awareness to be like to just be like fuck I'm bad but like I don't think Ace has like Ace came back and he was like dude I'm shitting I like watch this stream I'm like you're not I'm like this is the slowest most like boring gameplay
Starting point is 00:48:47 I'm like dude you are not like I'll see him lose fight like if I lost that fight I'm like fuck I'm so shit but like he'll lose a fight and it's just like it doesn't even like no thought even enters his head and I'm like my point I've been playing with Ace lately and like he just came back to Halo Infinite
Starting point is 00:49:03 so he's gonna be shit like yeah the game just keeps evolving and evolving but like I'll play with him and we'll lose and it's just like fuck this is really hard to win and I'm not not trying to like blame Ace is still like pretty good but I don't know he was just in that game
Starting point is 00:49:20 but Halo's been it's been a journey but I'm at a point now where I'm a little bored of it I will admit I want to get I don't I don't do what ha do I want to get good or do I give a fuck at all that's what I always do I care literally one percent I'll stop and be like I don't give a fuck I don't care at all but but should I'm at a point I'm at a crossroads right now where like would be kind of good like if I don't ever I'm at a crossroads right now where it's like, I go again.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I play, I play call, Call of Duty. There's a ranked out. Ha, ha, ha. New maps. I could get new maps. I could get iridescent.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Ha, ha, ha, ha. Or I could be happy and never give a fuck ever again. And just watch and enjoy. I don't play football. I like watching the NFL. I don't, I haven't shot a basketball in seven months.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I like watching the NBA. I don't have to play ranked to like Call the Duty. That's what you've been doing? Yes. But that's mostly because everyone's streams are dying and we need to play
Starting point is 00:50:40 something that people like to watch and so people Yeah. I was so I was so Who is that? JP. I can't see. I was, fuck, what was I about to say?
Starting point is 00:50:54 I was so... God, I don't care at all. Call of duty. I do care. I do care. I do care. He doesn't care. He does care.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Fuck, why's that I about to say? It'd be nice to care, though. But I just don't. I don't... You care. I just can't stand the fact that I'm fucking shit. See, I do care and I get... And I'm hard on myself and my stream's like, chill, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Like, no one cares. Like, no one's here to watch some crazy gameplay. fucking lose it. And I'm like, you're right. That's so true. I need to stop genuinely raging so hard. I think I need to start raging.
Starting point is 00:51:35 But it's just like, I don't know. There's so many. It does feel good knowing I might still have it at least sometimes. There's so many hackers in Kod. There's so many. People are starting to hack in Halo now as well.
Starting point is 00:51:49 The commando? Fucking flying Spartans and shit. I haven't ran into them. besides the obvious wallers and aim botters but people are saying there's like cheaters non-stop and i don't know i've been maybe it's because i like play in the morning with nothing but freaks and old people and i the cheaters might just come out at night or something freaks and old people i don't know i've enjoyed getting better but oh fucking what i was saying earlier when i've back in the day when i used to match into a good eight-man lobby i'm like this the stack
Starting point is 00:52:26 I don't even think about it. I just play. And like, even if I, whether I do bad or not, it's like, whatever. Now,
Starting point is 00:52:31 if I get matched into a stack lobby and like, like, I genuinely get nervous. And I'm like, oh, fuck. Really? Even when I play with Lucid,
Starting point is 00:52:39 I'm just like, it's like, first off, Lucid might be a bigger complainer than me. Like, he bitches nonstop. I'm telling you, I want you on stream tonight to,
Starting point is 00:52:52 to watch you and Lucid play? Watch Lucid. Just. lucid. Tell your chat. I talked to Maniac today. He said, he said lucid is one of the biggest complainers in Halo history. Click on his stream and just
Starting point is 00:53:06 see if hopefully it hits. I'll do it. To where like he's just fucking complaint. He complains about his teammates. It's so like, it's so much it's so funny and like knowing him and like he's the nicest guy.
Starting point is 00:53:23 But then you watch his stream and it's like holy. fuck. All he does is... Tommy, shut the fuck off. All he does is complain about his teammates. And I know, like...
Starting point is 00:53:34 I'm accustomed to it. And I'll play with him and I'll be one of the people he'll complain. Like, Manic, where are you? Why don't you just drop pink one in hell with overshoot? And I just know his chats.
Starting point is 00:53:44 You're fucking dumb fuck maniac. God, he's too bad. Then I'll join my chat. You're costing. You're costing. Dude, when I tell you... But then there's sometimes he'll complain. I'm like, you're like, you're right.
Starting point is 00:53:56 I fucking, like, I'll be mad at myself. Like, fuck. How do I just fuck that? Like, I fucked up, but I choked at the end of a round one time or one round yesterday. I rushed in and just fucking should have traded the kill. I fucking choked the kill, but I shouldn't even have rushed in. He was like, no, stay alive. Don't run.
Starting point is 00:54:10 But I just fucking flying in a dynamic. Fuck. And then there's like three seconds left and the animating team. God, ball. They win by one second. I'm like, fuck. Like, of course that one fuck up I did. And people are like, dude, lucid's bullying you.
Starting point is 00:54:23 And I'm like, I'm like, shut the fuck up. He's not bullet. Like, I, I fucked up there. Like, I'm actually pit, like, lucid is right.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Like, I actually, sometimes I'm just like, but Lusit, sometimes I just gotta be like, nine hours. I'm bad. Like,
Starting point is 00:54:36 you, like, don't expect so. You know what you got into. Yeah, like, don't expect so fucking much. But then there's other times where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:54:42 I know I fucked up at like an important moment. Yeah. But, yeah, even like, I'll get into those lobbies and I'll notice like I, like, dude,
Starting point is 00:54:52 just play nervous and I'm fucking. I'm a, I'm getting better at it. But when I tell you, I, how we start, never used to be a thing. How we start stream is I hop into Discord and Blake and George are already in there. And then I,
Starting point is 00:55:08 I listen to them call out and play a Val match while I play Smash. And then when they're done with my, when they're done with their Val match, I get done getting my ass fucking hand to me in Smash. And I'm like, yo, ready to go live? They're like, yeah fucking getting destroyed Every day
Starting point is 00:55:28 A hundred, dude Every day I'm getting Lost after loss after loss Just smashed But I'm having fun at least And I I hear Blake and George complain For every day
Starting point is 00:55:42 Monday through Friday For two years I've listened to Blake and George Complaint about their teammates Every single day in Val And to a point where I'm like Dude are there just nothing but shitters Over there
Starting point is 00:55:54 And you know their teammates are complaining about them. For sure. Dude. And I'm like, dude, at some point, it's got to be you guys's fault, right? But every time I say that and joking, they're like, no, you don't get it. Like, we're in a loser's queue. And when we get in a loser's queue,
Starting point is 00:56:09 Val puts you with other losers and they don't know how to play. And then you're getting down to spiral. And I'm like, all right, guys, all right, I trust you. And I'm like, y'all's shit, though, right? Dude, I, I think with me is like, I, do I blame my teammates? Yes. do I
Starting point is 00:56:25 I think I do but I think I do a lot of like self I don't blame my teammates I tell myself how bad I am every single day the thing is is I don't blame my I don't blame my teammates
Starting point is 00:56:37 but I think that's just because I'm not good right like I'm not good if I was good maybe I would blame him a lot more like if I was Lucid plays nine hours a day and he's been doing that for two and a half years I told him yesterday I was like
Starting point is 00:56:50 you got to you're in like this is like little league like these are like It goes from screaming to playing with NIA. From duo queuing with Niac. I'm like, bro, this is like little, like, you're in major league baseball and then, like, you just step down to, like, have fun at Little League. Like, people are kind of taking it serious.
Starting point is 00:57:06 They're like, little kids. They're pretty dumb. Like, they're not. This ain't their career. You're playing Pop Warner. Just, just relax. All right. Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:57:24 What? Do you like my Instagram? What, Schmeet? Did we watch? the fallout series what's the fallout series dude he's talking about a TV series about the video game fallout I didn't see it nor have I ever played the game you're a nerd you just nerd gas so what the nerd he said wait he stopped this entire and then he popped his head out said did you guys hold on
Starting point is 00:57:52 did you guys see the fallout did you guys see the fallout series before you get into your next subject I have one up for all for you're a nerd and he I've never seen a him happier than explain he was smiling so big. I've never played the game and I've I've never played fallout so I don't know. Yeah I was too busy talking with
Starting point is 00:58:14 women chicks and stuff. Yeah I was like yeah I was like hanging out I was smoking mad doinks with a lot of chicks six naked bitches in the pool what did calico say? I was skinny bitch that was skinny dipping with six bitches.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I was skinny, Dembin with six bitches. Speaking of battle rap, last episode, which was a week, two and a half weeks late, we reacted to the like that verse, which is still playing.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Played it on the way here. Jay Cole dropped a, an out or an, an EP, a mixtape, randomly out of nowhere. I was on the flight to Italy and I listen to a whole album. Should we listen to it?
Starting point is 00:59:07 I don't want to listen to it. Yeah. What's the point? The thing is, is the album is great. I think the album is fucking great. The song with Daylight and Absole is incredible. The song with Cameron is incredible. The intro song is incredible.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I even like the song with Bass. Like, hide you, how'd you, how'd you bitch? Fuck. How'd your wife? I don't remember that one. I haven't. I'm not going to lie, I haven't listened to it as much as I should have.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I think it's great. But I do think it's good in the song. What's the song I've been listening to? The Cameron song. No, the, Ready to Trade the Truth in Abiza. Oh, is that one of the last ones? Yeah, I was like, I saw Pam post that and I was like, wait, have I even listened to that?
Starting point is 00:59:51 Dude, but it was like. I think, dude. And it's just so good. It's so good. But Jay Cole is, I want to, on my way, on my way. on my way whenever that album dropped I tweeted this
Starting point is 01:00:12 in Italy four days ago I tweeted this I think this is the first time since the big three narrative has started in the early 2010s that Jay Cole is confidently in first since the warm up it's been the best
Starting point is 01:00:29 I've ever seen him right discrack aside this last throwaway project bangs that's what I told tweeted and then 24 hours later he apologized so if you guys don't know the story if you guys don't know what's going on in hip hop and you don't really care you're a rock and roll fan or you're a blues fan uh three big artists have run the entire game for the past 15 years breaking down like this they've they've all uh for some reason one of them threw a shot at the other
Starting point is 01:01:03 two and one of those being j cole j cole has been a very peaceful guy his entire career but he's been talking about how he's the best. So people were like, hey, you got to go at Kendrick because he dissed you. And Jay Cole put out a disc track responding to Kendrick, but it was mad friendly. It was a very friendly disc track. And then less than three days later, he goes on stage and apologizes to the rap game and to Kendrick in general. He goes on stage at a Dreamville concert.
Starting point is 01:01:37 His concert, his own concert. and we could maybe... I don't want to watch it. No. I've already watched it like five or six times. He basically apologizes and says... He said, since putting out that record, which was a pretty soft record.
Starting point is 01:01:57 It was like a jab. It was a jab. It was like, I'm down to play this game if you want to play this game. 100%. It wasn't like he went after his baby mama and did all this. in it was simply a I'm down to play this game
Starting point is 01:02:14 if you want to play this game I'm down to go this route if you want to go this route here's what I have to say if you got something to say let's do this and then that chain is worth
Starting point is 01:02:25 three million dollars by the way the one on Drake's neck right there really three million dollars and then he goes on at a Dreamville concert
Starting point is 01:02:32 and he says these past few days he felt he didn't He hasn't felt right about the situation. He said putting out, he said putting out the song was not right. It made him feel bad and it wasn't what he needed. It didn't feel right within his spirit is what he said.
Starting point is 01:02:51 It disrupted his peace. It disrupted his peace. He said he has been sleeping so well over the past 10 years because before 10 years ago, Jay Cole was a little demon. And then he has gone on this like journey of like spirituality, spirituality. and very comrade he's a very comrador comrador he's he comrodtery he's a comrade to a lot of his mentor or to a lot of his peers he likes collaboration he likes he wants to hang working with people he likes being he's been over the past five years he's been on a gazillion features and he's
Starting point is 01:03:31 bodied all of them nothing he's been on an insane run which is why i tweeted that which is why i was like as far as pin to pad he is the best of the three right now when i tweeted that and i still agree with that but going on stage and and in in apologizing what do you what were you what was your initial thoughts because i know your initial thoughts were my initial thoughts for no no no no no you fucking idiot keep that even if you feel that way keep it to your fucking self I'm like, dude, this takes, I don't even want to hear your new album anymore. I'm going to listen to it. But it's like, like, J-Call's whole, I don't know, facade.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Jay-Call's whole image has kind of been like, he's never been the gun bar king, but you're like, there's something about Cole. He is from, I guess, a pretty bad place. but he just seems more intelligent, more mature, but something about him. I think Cole's got some dog in him. Oh, for sure. Cole could snap on one of these.
Starting point is 01:04:50 He fist bought P. Did he? He knew. He knew ahead of time. Like, Cole, he ain't like, he's a nice dude, but he ain't no bitch. And like, he's got some dog. That's what you've always wanted to, bro. And that's what, that was my image of Jay Cole. When I first heard of Jay Cole, not when I first heard of him, but he was on his mixtape because I'm from North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:05:12 That's our guy. That's our guy. That's our guy. There was no one else. And so when I'm in, especially I'm in high school was his mixtape era before the, his debut album, I forgot what it's called Colts. I know it by heart, but I forgot what it's called. Sideline store, I think. Before that, he was like on this.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Mix tape his mix tape fucking His mixtape come up Was fucking insane He signs He does a Avert he does a A mix or a freestyle Over dead presidents
Starting point is 01:05:52 The presidents to represent me right Killing it J-C or Jay Z signs him And says yo by the way If you're going to rap over my beat You got to do it better So he does another freestyle over the same beat
Starting point is 01:06:07 and to this day it's one of the best tracks I've ever heard like it's so good it's insane and so if I was like that's my like initial view of Jay Cole is like
Starting point is 01:06:19 the best arguably the best rapper of all time tells you to do better and then you do better you got to come harder than that and then on your debut album Mr. Nice Watch
Starting point is 01:06:32 he's on now now Jay Z's got a verse on your debut album. I'm like, dude, that's, Jay Cole is like, oh, like he's,
Starting point is 01:06:42 yes, he's like over the 10 years, last 10 years, he's been on this hippie, hippie shit, but it's not like he doesn't have that fucking fire. Joe's in the top three without any of the extra shit at all. It's so true.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Drake's extra. Kendrick's not a, Kendrick's extra. Kendrick's extra. He dressed up as a Catholic priest. He does some, like, weird shit, like just like Jesus,
Starting point is 01:07:03 some Jesus stuff, I think. Kendrick's extra Drake's super extra but Jay Cole is in there just seemingly pure talent It's so true
Starting point is 01:07:14 See Jay Cole seemingly You like feel what he's like Yeah Whenever he came out With like false prophets Talking about like I think Kanye and shit
Starting point is 01:07:23 I was just like dude I feel this Jay Cole seemingly is the guy you grew up You grew up with Or that you went to high school with That it Drake
Starting point is 01:07:34 And like you love Kendrick aren't like that. He's a real ass dude. Drake and Kendrick aren't like that. No. They're like, oh, that's the dude from Compton that's on this like jazz shit. Like, Drake and Kendrick calculate how to be at the top. They at the top when the album drop, his album drops, like take this angle.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Like they calculate this shit. Jay Cole is in the three just all fucking talent and being. Pure pin to pad. Pin to pad. And the thing is, is he's not like a fucking, he's not like a, like a Joyner Lucas or like a daylight or or Absol. I mean, I can't. Or like any of the Griselda guys where it's like, you know they're the best writers in the world. But they're not going to go top 100 on the charts.
Starting point is 01:08:26 They're not going to, you're not going to hear them on the radio. Yeah. When they're spent like that, it's just like, I get it. You're really good. Yeah. But like I'm not. But J. Col can do. It doesn't touch your soul.
Starting point is 01:08:35 And I think that's what separates the big three from everyone else is that they're so good at rapping, but they're also great at making hits and great at building that community around them. Those are the only three that could host their own, well, besides like Tyler the Creator and them. But like they can host their own fucking get like Dreamville or OVO Fest. And everyone's coming to that. Like, these are the big three for a reason.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Now, my initial reaction was also, it wasn't like, no, it was no, no, no, but it was just like, fuck, man. Damn it. Because part of me knew what was going to happen. When you hear, when you hear, what is it called? Seven minute, seven minute drill, which is Jay Cole's return disc track. to towards Kendrick Lamar It was so It was good
Starting point is 01:09:40 Don't get me wrong it was good And feel like swat in a fly I'm not gonna lie Like that's a not gonna lot Not gonna lie as a four four syllable Conductor conductor conductor You're like oh shit It's a sample that Drake has also gone on
Starting point is 01:09:56 Like it's it's pretty good And it's it's very well written and he also, for the first time, I think in forever, Jay Cole is shooting at someone directly. You know exactly who he's talking about, which he's kind of been on his subliminal shit for a long time. And I was like, oh my God, it's happening.
Starting point is 01:10:21 But it wasn't like, it wasn't, it wasn't a, it wasn't like that push, it wasn't Pusha T Drake. It wasn't Drake Meek Mill. It wasn't Gucci Main and who did fucking Gucci? G-Zeezy. It wasn't that big. It wasn't like, fuck your baby mama. Which it shouldn't have been.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Like, this was just the start. It shouldn't have been. Yeah, you're right. It shouldn't have been. But then he goes on his response was appropriate. I did too. I did too. And I was like, nice. Here we go. And I still think it was good. I think it was good. Lightwork. Like, you know, I was good. I'm the
Starting point is 01:10:59 fucking fucking while I busted him. Like the the reference about the guy who's holding the gun and like crying because he doesn't want to kill his friend but then he shoots his friend like that's i don't know the movie i can't remember the movie do you remember the movie oh um but that's all it's all great references is all great writing and then he goes on stage and apologizes and dude the difference i i think um there's a duality of me and one side is like Fuck. That's our guy from North Carolina. This was his time.
Starting point is 01:11:38 If he was ever going to have that cemented legacy of that's the best ever. He fucked up it, bro. That was this. He fucked up his legacy. That was the time. That was the time to really do it. But then the other half of me is like, you could tell on that track that he didn't want to do that shit. I could kind of tell.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I think he tried to like hype himself up like, yeah. I'm like, no, no. I think I'm one of I think I've been waiting knowing this I think we hyped him up I think he's been sitting there kind of waiting for something but then once he did it
Starting point is 01:12:15 I don't know if he was waiting for it from Kendrick I think he was I think sure he's waiting for it the amount of times he has mentioned something about being the best being one of the best and can't know one fuck with him and then someone challenges him on that and then he he hits back
Starting point is 01:12:33 and then he was and then he's just like do when I okay here here is my synopsis is that people view hip hop in two different ways some people view it as an art and some people view it as a sport and
Starting point is 01:12:50 I think Drake and Kendrick view it as a sport they want to be the best and that's why that's why big step what is it's both and that's what makes the great's the great's when you do when you are in it in both ways. And I, I, I kind of agree with that.
Starting point is 01:13:08 But when, when, when, when, when J. Cole's saying he's the best, no, no, I promise you, ain't nobody better in this fucking industry. I think he's saying his art is better than everyone else's art. I don't think he's, I don't think he's saying, give me the ball and I'll one on one. I look at it and I'm like, you're not even willing to fight for your art. Like, yeah, I mean, and it hurts me. Those are my two, those, I, I, battle dude it's fucked me up because if if he's going on there and he's doing something he doesn't even believe in then bow out sure i think that's if if he hasn't been able to sleep for the first time in 10 years because he's been at such peace why would you why would any grown man
Starting point is 01:13:54 why would you even disrupt your piece why would you say anything why would any grown man want him to continue living like that i will say as a grown man i get it i understand certain little things can disrupt your piece. I understand he probably, him putting that out and seeing both sides talk about it. Yeah. The negativity, it probably brought up with both sides.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Fuck him. Fuck him. He probably real, I heard Joe Button say, like, once you get into that type of like, even though it's just rat beef, you,
Starting point is 01:14:26 your lifestyle changes. It's over. There's more security. You just start, you move different. Everything. Dude. People you think.
Starting point is 01:14:35 you fuck with but they're friends with Kendrick they ain't fucking with you no more like things change your lifestyle changes and he was like i don't think j cole was ready for that i don't and it's not like i don't think he was this might be he's not i don't think he's scared he's not scared of kendrick he's not scared of kendrick in a physical way he's not scared of Kendrick in a lyrical way, I don't think. But, well, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and debate people about it.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Because they're going to be like, oh, for the rest of, for the rest of Jay Cole's career, they're going to say, oh, he ran from Kendrick. The same way, all the fucking losers are saying that, well, Drake's ghost, we've got to get, Drake's ghost riders. Drake's going to get all of his ghost writers. It's just like, there's dumb fucking people that are just
Starting point is 01:15:27 surface level fans that don't know anything that want to get under your skin and they're gonna say that for the rest of ever. They're gonna say Jay Cole bowed out of a battle and because he was scared of Kendra. I think what I from a grown man perspective, I completely
Starting point is 01:15:45 get it. I don't want, I don't want no Twitter beef. I don't want to be on Keemstar. Even these celebrity or these content creator boxing matches. I think like that'd be fun to do, but it's like, I don't want to argue and put up this fake
Starting point is 01:16:03 we got beef so like the numbers are better like I don't want to be I don't want to be arguing with someone on on Twitter and in the replies or the YouTube comments or especially publicly
Starting point is 01:16:19 like I don't want any problem with anyone I don't want to be on Keem Star and have attention on my name I don't want fucking Yeah. Like it takes peace away from me. Right, all right.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Maybe I'm fucked up to where like it's, I feel like it's hard to find peace with my own internal brain. So when I do have it, I don't want, I don't want a problem with no one. Yeah. I agree. But. But you also have. I understand that from a J. Cole for, I understand that that's probably J. Cole's mindset. but when we're talking rap sport the sport of rap competition of like i'm better than you
Starting point is 01:17:07 no you're not i'm better than you like fuck the big three is big me and then you're sitting there like i'm fucking better than you and like now should be the time where like you prove you're better than him and in a rapping way bro no one's getting killed over J. Cole Kendrick beef. Okay. So it's like, dude, just keep it, keep it wrap. Dude. And it shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:17:34 I don't agree. I don't agree. And it shouldn't be like, I just, I think there's a part of me that doesn't respect someone. What I can't stand the most is when I scroll through Twitter and I see someone like about to get in a fight and they just sit there like this. And then the dude starts swinging on them and they're just like this. And they just like take the punches. like no fucking fight at all like at least defend yourself
Starting point is 01:18:01 fucking push him away I know people have seen these people will just get swung on and then and then they'll just it'll be like the nerd like he's getting fucking bullied and I hate seeing it but what I hate is seeing someone with no
Starting point is 01:18:17 with just no fight not physically it doesn't have to be physically like and I'm not saying if a motherfucker's getting bullied, it's fucked up. I'm not saying start swinging back because a lot of times you'll just get your ass beat even more. But to just let a motherfucker hit you
Starting point is 01:18:34 and to at least like fucking defend yourself a little bit. And in this case, rapping, it's just like, dude, he just said fuck the big three. It's big me. He's talking about rap. He's saying he's better than you. You've been saying you're better than all of them. Show some fight.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Okay, here's my thing That it makes me not even want to listen to his album Because I'm like, you don't even got any fight in you Like what you say now He fought Keep the heat under the seat like No He fought though
Starting point is 01:19:10 Like I know Jay Cole's not keeping the heat under the seat But now when I heard that bar coming over here And I just said no I heard that bar on his album Jake Cole keep the heat under the seat There's not that's on the district Keep the heat under the seat I got a no
Starting point is 01:19:25 So somebody listening. There's new albums coming out. It's like, I don't know what you could say that. Obviously, it's going to be good as fuck. It's going to be so good. But I'm just going to be hearing it. It's going to be so good. It's going to be so good.
Starting point is 01:19:37 But I'm going to hear it and just be like, no. Like, it just, it's not. Okay. Let me give my thing. Let me get my point. You don't have that fucking. Let me get my point across. There's just fight.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I've, I've heard many people say, just keep it rap. But that shit is boring. as a battle rap fan what are the best fights the best fights are the fucking thesaurus verse Ilmac or or fucking a verb verse hitman
Starting point is 01:20:06 like boys that are going against each other or fucking Calico versus loaded Luxe he's talking about Calico's dad for five and a half minutes that's as personal as you can get your pops wasn't no gangster he was just another lost dude
Starting point is 01:20:23 that is as personal as it gets those are the best fights the best fights are naws versus j z it's it's it's at it's it's why i fucked you bitch you fat motherfucker exactly get money it's too yeah exactly or it's fucking even even if you want to go in our generation meek mill Drake is personal as fuck yeah and like even the meat mill Drake stuff like at a meek milk I think Drake did a show in phil and like a thousand cops were there. And people are saying Meeks' entourage. Meek's got 150 people outside.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Like that type of shit. Have you ever heard of the rap? Yeah. Drake talked about it. He was like, that beef, it was, there was a lot of entertainment in that beef,
Starting point is 01:21:07 but don't get it twisted. Meek is not someone to play with. And he said that after the beef. But I mean, he said like, is that, is that a world tour or your girls tour? That's not what she meant when she said,
Starting point is 01:21:20 you should open up more. That's a, that's, that's personal. He was dating Nicky Minaj at the time. That's a good bar. That's a crazy good bar.
Starting point is 01:21:28 That's a battle rap bar. And push a tea, obviously, that's as personal as you can get. You know, saying that his friend's going to die. And obviously you have this, you have,
Starting point is 01:21:39 those are the best beefs. I don't think J. Cole wanted to go there. And so to say, keep it wrap. Do you remember when Joyner Lucas and, uh, Tori Lane's got into a rap battle and they kept it rap.
Starting point is 01:21:55 No, you don't remember it because it's fucking corny. Oh, I'm going to write a gazillion multisyllables to out multisyllable the other guy who's multisilibrillibaling. No one cares about that shit. But I think they could keep it.
Starting point is 01:22:10 They could make it away. How? I mean, just, you don't have to keep it wrap in the wraps, but keep it wrapped so no one dies. But then you're,
Starting point is 01:22:21 ruining your relationship with another person. Oh, well. I think keeping it wrap. You think Kendrick gave a fuck about your relationship? Low-key, Kendrick probably reached out. I think, yes, Kendrick. I think, though, I think Jay Cole was aside. But the thing is Kendrick, and please, Lord, let Drake be one of these.
Starting point is 01:22:45 But I think Kendrick was willing to be like, I, like, all right, then if this is how it's got to be, it's how it's got to be. Like just that the killer dog inside and like I think Drake 41's beefed but I'm down to cut ties Drake is the same like he'll cut ties with fucking future like he's Drake will it's kind of funny saying it about Drake but like Drake ain't gonna shoot you but like he's down to like say some shit he's down to get his homies involved I was going to get your homies involved I don't I mean obviously Drake's down for it. We are two gaming white dudes from fucking Dallas. But like when you hear,
Starting point is 01:23:26 when you hear these like, like a Joe Button podcast or like, or like Big Boy or like all these. I watch a decent amount, especially it's on my TikTok feed all the time now. The way they talk about Drake in Toronto is kind of like, if you're beefing with him, don't go up there.
Starting point is 01:23:43 And like that could be, they could be gassing it. Yeah. But we don't Drake. Probably true. We know Drake. petty as fuck. He said it in one of his songs that he's petty as fuck.
Starting point is 01:23:54 He's petty as fuck. He will. He'll just like it's not like you're going to like get hurt or something like you'll just get embarrassed by something. Yeah. Something bad is going to happen. Yeah. Like something if you go up there.
Starting point is 01:24:07 But it's the same way. If you if you're beef with Kendrick Lamar and you go to Compton, fucking hide. Yeah. And it's it's you know, it's the same with Meek Mill and fucking Philly. Like same thing. So it's all real
Starting point is 01:24:22 But I and I don't think J-Co has any of that I don't think Jayco is just like a family man I mean yeah yeah now for sure But like And he's at peace And he's at peace And so it got to a point where
Starting point is 01:24:38 I think he was at a crossroads Where you either get mad corny And you I'm gonna compton wompton Wompton I'm gonna wombo combo And Compton Hompton You either do that or you go, you got five baby mamas and I fuck three of them
Starting point is 01:24:54 and you know what I mean? You go that way and he had to choose and he's like I don't want to do either one of those. That's what I think. The thing is to me because that's his friend. He just didn't have to apologize.
Starting point is 01:25:07 I agree with you. A friend is, bro. Fuck the big three. It's just big me. But I think he's a, because I think the big issue which we've known about for years. You know you're married with kids, bro.
Starting point is 01:25:18 You don't need Kendrick Lamont. is a fucking friend. You're Jake and you're on team Drake. That's not true. I don't think. If Kendrick Lamar asked him to go on tour with him, he would say yes. I mean, I'm just saying you did a song with like you at least got
Starting point is 01:25:33 Drake. You don't need fucking, you don't need to be buddy buddy with everyone. Okay, I get what you're saying. I also didn't know this, but I was listening to the Joe Button podcast for the first time ever, which is actually, he's, it's actually a funny, it's funny as fuck podcast. But I didn't realize that the, what?
Starting point is 01:25:49 Joe Putton's insane. I didn't realize that first person shooter, they both asked Kendrick to be on it. Did you know that? Really? The rumor is that they asked Kendrick to be on that song. He said no and then did the like that verse. That is fucking...
Starting point is 01:26:06 Is that true? That's what the rumor is. Can you look that up, Schmeethead? It would just be weird if that was true because... Kendrick Lamar first person shooter mode. Yeah, just look that up. That would have been crazy. All three of them on one track.
Starting point is 01:26:25 But he said no. And then... Good, because he's got some fucking dog in him. Why wasn't Kendrick on first-person shooter? Right down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down. Right there. Stop, yeah. Kendrick has some fucking dog in him.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Baca. Yeah. Yeah. I understand. I mean, this is just the guy asking. but yeah but anyway that's just the rumor i don't know man i'm i'm disappointed by it he and my take is j cole didn't even just keep that to yourself even if it fucked up your piece i agree i wish i didn't and i bet you he regrets like probably tell like talk to your wife be like fuck man i don't even
Starting point is 01:27:26 i don't like this feeling like i don't even like i fuck with kendrick i don't even like this feeling but like keep it to yourself and just ride it out I bet you J. Cole regrets Obviously J. Cole regrets putting the disc trek out because he said it he said that seven minute drill is it like it tainted that album because that album is pretty damn good
Starting point is 01:27:50 especially for a throwaway album. It's fucking amazing I don't think it tainted it. But he thinks it tainted it so he regrets that and I bet you he regrets fucking apologizing Yeah I bet you he regrets it But he's also some spiritual hippie-dippy M motherfucker to where he's like not going to
Starting point is 01:28:09 Yeah He's going to just like We just move on from this Like he's not gonna sit there He's probably like fuck I probably shouldn't have said shit And it's hard because I bet he's at a show He feels emotional like when you're up on stage
Starting point is 01:28:25 All of your fans like you see all your fans That really fuck with you You're like fuck man I made it Like I'm at peace peace. I'm feeling good. And then I went and did this shit. And like now I got to address it with these guys.
Starting point is 01:28:37 And they're probably screaming, fuck Kendrick from the crowd. Right, right. He's like, fuck, I didn't want this. I didn't want any of this. And he might not even plan on speaking on it.
Starting point is 01:28:46 But like up there in the moment. So I bet someone in the crowd like said, fuck Kendrick. Dude, did you hear it during? Like he probably was probably like, fuck man. He was like,
Starting point is 01:28:56 and then he was like, and then he just starts talking like, and he said I would do. He started yapping. He started yapping. And he, Even while he's happened, he said, and I just heard my man's back there say, oh, no, don't do this.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Like, he said that on stage. While he was apologizing, he said he heard his guys in the background say, oh, nah. He's like, but I'm going to do the shit anyway. And it's like. That would have been me. I wish he hadn't put the track out at all. Like, did he not have like, if scump was to do some shit, bro, we would all be here like, don't do it, man.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Yeah, we just did. that to him like a month ago. Wait, with what? Nothing. But yeah, no, I get what you're saying. Wait, what was there something? I'll, yeah. But yeah, it would be the same thing.
Starting point is 01:29:46 And he would do it anyway. But what I think happened with what maybe, maybe this is, I'm, I'm grasping at the, and my North Carolina side is just grasping at things. Just like there's got to be something that makes sense and and what I think happened Obviously he had to choose those two roads that I was talking about I think he heard how far Left That shit was gonna go between the other two and he was like I don't care that I don't did you hear it Kendrick and Drake both have of both have dude get ready and apparently it's nuclear
Starting point is 01:30:28 I heard I you there's a There's a clip from Joe Budden's last podcast where he just says, basically he had said multiple times that Drake doesn't have it in them anymore. And he basically said, I have been proven. I have no longer going to speak. Yeah. I've been proven wrong if the rumors are correct.
Starting point is 01:30:48 And apparently it's going to drop within either 12 hours or three days. Or never. Or never. And then we just. So we have a emergency pod ready. Yeah, mehead. Are you on call? It could be 3 a.m.
Starting point is 01:31:07 You got to get your ass down here. Right when... He said he's on call. Right when a disc track drops. Mehead listens to country music. He doesn't know what we're talking about. It has to be a real distract. Can't be a song with like a few shots.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Apparently it's bad. If it's a nuclear disc track... God, I hope it's bad. Kendrick just disdrake. Drake just... disc, Kendrick. We will not listen to it ourselves. We will come here.
Starting point is 01:31:33 We will record a podcast. And we will listen to it live. And that, hopefully. What if it's 11 p.m.? We're coming down? Maybe early next morning. Because I'm down to it. You're not going to listen to it the whole night?
Starting point is 01:31:49 I can live with that, I think. Yeah, me too. No, we can't. We have to hear it for the first time here. And it's going to come out at some shit. Like if it's 11 midnight, I ain't going to, I ain't coming down here. But we can set it up for like, all right,
Starting point is 01:32:03 9, 10 a.m. pod. So hopefully that is our next pod. If that is not our next pod, you'll see we do have a special, special guess for next week. I'm not going to say who it is. We have a special guest? We have a guess.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Oh. It's kind of special. I don't even know. You know. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's all right. Okay. Um, but yeah, that's,
Starting point is 01:32:32 that should, um, that's what we're looking at. You might, and I'm, and I'm telling Optic, because usually we record these, they come out like a week later. If a disc track drops, we're coming in, we're reacting to it, and we're talking about it, and we're dropping this shit immediately.
Starting point is 01:32:51 So I don't know, you could see a video. I don't even know when this is, it could be out before. Yeah, like, we don't know. We're dropping that shit immediately. I will hack Roger. computer. Yeah, that's what we're working with, man. We're ready. We're ready for when they're ready. And then, if not, regularly scheduled podcast again next week. But, um, my, my closing arguments, my, my closing thoughts, the big three still exists. It still exists. It still exists. It still
Starting point is 01:33:19 exists. It still exists. My final thoughts. I'm sad. I'm sad. I'm hurt. I'm so, my, my North Carolina in me is is is is aching but also the the as a grown man I'm over 30 years old I If I understand that if if he needs if he if that's what keeps him at peace That's what keeps him at peace and I can know I'm okay with that but I mean I think he'll be bronze forever now I think he will be yeah and that it that kills me to say man that kills me to say My final thoughts as a grown man I completely get it there is You live a total different life outside of this rap shit. You have wife, kids, close friends, family.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Basketball. Basketball. Enjoy your life. Like, that's the purpose of this is to enjoy your life. As a grown man, I get it, man. I wish you nothing but peace. And I'm on the same way of myself, to be honest. But I think Jay Cole's legacy is a little tainted.
Starting point is 01:34:31 And is it recoverable? I don't. He's going to have to come out with some crazy like false profits type vibe and just say the craziest bar to where we're like, holy fuck we get in now. Yeah. Like, good for you, J. Cole. I'm happy for you. And I wish you the best. You might still be allowed in the big three.
Starting point is 01:34:55 But to me, J. Cole is big three, but like it's, it's, it's a little tainted. I'm going to, I'm not going to lie. I'm going to listen to his shit. music different now. In the same way, in the same way, I've been listening to Meek, I haven't really been listening
Starting point is 01:35:13 to Meek Mill's music now. Something happens and it's kind of tainted and I kind of see them differently in a way and then I see them jumping around like a bunny rabbit for billionaires playing tennis. Meek Mill, you seen that clip? No. Meek Mill played tennis against like a billionaire,
Starting point is 01:35:30 lost. And I think instead of paying the debt, the billionaire made him do like five, 500 bunny jump bunny hop jumps uh so i just can't i'm not saying that's on that's j cole where j cole is at right now that's not drake's fault but to be fair but uh i don't i feel i feel his legacy's a little tainted as with the as a rapper and how we looked at you we thought you had that dog in you to fight for the top spot But apparently, to you, it's just about the art, which is respectable.
Starting point is 01:36:12 But sometimes, the music just might not hit the same for certain bars for me now. That's my last thoughts. Yeah. All right. It's going to do it for episode 1-0, whatever the hell we were on. This episode was also brought to you by Veryheel. Shout out to them. Shouts out of very help.
Starting point is 01:36:29 But yeah, that's going to do it for this episode of the five guys' needhead played out outro music.

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