The Flycast - SHOTZZY LEAKS HIS $300K BUYOUT | The Flycast Ep 82

Episode Date: July 16, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to another episode of the Flycast. Matt, what are we on? Episode, I'm going to say 82. You might be wondering, Maniac, why are you sitting here? Where's your usual spot? Isn't this the, I guess you could call this the host chair. I'm kind of mad. Apparently, Dave is on his way walking here.
Starting point is 00:00:38 We have a special guest today. A very special guest. A one-of-a-kind. A generational talent. the man, the myth, the legend. Shotsie. He's joining us today. Hitch is nowhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I'm going to do, I don't like hosting these. I'm going to do as best as I can to make this flow. We'll be good. We don't need, we don't need to. We'll be good. Hitch, a little disappointed, no text. I don't know if I should be calling you out like this. No text, no phone call, no warning.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Skip down on dinner. But here we are. It's all good. We're making it work. We miss you Hitch. Maybe we'll run this back with Hitch in the future. But what's up, Shotsie? How you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:01:21 I'm doing good. This off season has been treating me well. I've been, uh, this is actually the first off season that I haven't, like, played any games in, like, a minute. Really? Dude, I, what's the up? This podcast, I was going to, obviously, like, sort of like, what's up, man, how you man? Like, what are you doing in the off season?
Starting point is 00:01:41 But I was going to say, I figured you were gaming. Nah, dude. I kind of look at you like true gamer nerd. No, I am a true gamer, but I'm not going to lie to, dude. Gaming right now is like the stalest that's ever been. Bro, like, put it like this. I've grinded Apex already. Like last year, bro, I put...
Starting point is 00:01:56 You were nasty, huh? Dude, I grinded. Like, I was saying, like, at least 10 hours of day every day. So I'm, like, kind of sick of it now. Valerite, like, I just don't get the same itch anymore. Like, I don't really know why. Like, have you ever played my game? I don't really, like, I played the beta, but I just, I fell off of PC games like that.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah. So, like, that game, like, I'm already sick of it. And there's just nothing, there's nothing to play it, bro. So what? So, all duty, like, I'm not playing old cards. Like, it's just, it's just so boring or no. Were you someone that always dabbled into other games? Are you, like, an APG to where literally he's only played Halo. It's been, bro, APG started playing Halo in, like, 2005.
Starting point is 00:02:37 The motherfucker hasn't touched anything else since. He's only, like, 16th year. Literally, I don't think, oh, let's see. No, he's definitely played a number thing. I think he was playing in 2005 to 2020, two plus eight minus carry the three. What is that? Probably the seven.
Starting point is 00:02:52 It's a lot. You know what's funny is I asked Twitter, like what I should ask you. And they're like, just ask him simple math questions. Wait, no, I'm actually got it like a mission. No, you're in. We'll get into that. We got some community questions we can do. Yeah, APG is, you're not like APG to where you've only played.
Starting point is 00:03:10 No, no, no. Halo and Cod. That's where you go wrong with gaming. well, if you're in season, yeah, like, strictly, like, whatever your game, I respect that. But I feel like that's another, like, what's that word, like, controversy, like, topic. They're, like, people that are playing, like, if they're a professional cod players, like, when Seth would take a break from cod and all the fans. Or if, like, he would play, or Dashie when he'd play Valoran, like, people are blaming,
Starting point is 00:03:38 say they get top six or something. Like, as long as you're balancing it to where, like, you're not overcompensated. like your main game or like your side game compared to your main game then like because bro I'm not gonna lie like being a competitor like this shit could get like mentally like draining like bro playing every single day like it's uh what seven eight hours a day like you want at least like because like obviously you're trying to have fun but like if it's not going your way like there's teams that deal with like trying to get better throughout the week and like it's like draining because like you're having arguments and like you see like you know your work not
Starting point is 00:04:13 being uh you know what is like the word like it's not it's not like clicking you know what i'm saying so it's good to like have you know your own other game to like you just vibe and like chill you know what helps with that you know center CBT sparkling drink there's a there's a 40 calorie one and there's a 10 calorie one the black one's calling my name okay for sure this one's calling my name yeah i got i got to i got to keep my calories low this pie podcast is brought to you by center, by the way. This is, I mean, they have this. Hitch said he chugged one of these, and I thought it before, you chugged one of these.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Makes you feel a little relaxed. It's just like a nice, clean flavor, but you can, they also have, like, packets and stuff. I don't know if the camera can see, but there's, like, little packets for recovery, balanced and relax. It gives me, like, a, like, a Sprite. If you chugged one of these, you'll actually. actually like feel it like it's kind of wait wait do you taste like a little bit of spright or am i triven yeah it's like a lemony yeah it's like a lemony yeah it's like a lemony is that the same flavor
Starting point is 00:05:23 lemon lime sparkling sort of thing so i can see the resemblance there's there's like sparking water that like i can not drink but like that's one of them like there's a few that i could drink and that's definitely one of them yeah what's weird if like if you chug this you're actually like feel it just kind of makes you i that feel like it chills you out but I think it affects everyone differently. Some people are focused, like, mental clarity from it. I think it's more of like a relaxing thing. So you're not stream or have you been streaming?
Starting point is 00:05:57 Well, that's another. I feel like you were streaming for a while. I was. If you're not gaming, I'm wondering what. I was at the start. But then, nah, dude, right now it's like, like, I'm like with this type of player or like the type of guy that like I could. So for example, like our roster mania, like everyone's just saying like, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:11 optic blank. Optic blank over and over and over. And, like, I used to be able to like... You can't. Yeah, I used to be able to like just... All right, like, who cares about that? But like, bro, right now, it's literally whatever I'm doing, it's like the optic blank every single minute.
Starting point is 00:06:26 You like can't even look at your chat. It's like, it's not even fun. Like, I'm just trying to have fun. I'm trying to game. Like, I was playing Only Up. Did you watch? I know of Only Up. Yeah, so like I'm just trying to vibe with my chat and like all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And like, they're all they're talking about is that. And like, it's just like, dude, I don't even want to do with that. so like I don't even I haven't been playing I haven't been streaming playing like I mean I play Valenra at the other day like one game and like got off but yeah I don't know I've been my main focus right now is literally running I'm not gonna lie like I was gonna say we're gonna get into your whole life we're gonna take it way back but for right now what are you doing just running literally just running and gym that's all I've been doing gym yeah do you be hitting the weights uh not as crazy as like you would think I'm I'm like doing like I'm I'm like doing like I'm
Starting point is 00:07:12 I'm not doing anything crazy on the upper body. I'm more like prioritizing like my legs. Really? Oh, so are you doing some like, like dead lifts, like, caffre? Yeah, like strengthening stuff that will help you're running. Yeah, exactly. Why the fuck do you, how'd you get into running? You were like a soccer kid, right?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Yeah, but that's the main reason I quit. But like you hate, just like everyone else, you hate running when you're actually like. Let's go back to, I forgot what age I was. I think it was like 12 or something, 13. I was actually good as fuck. I'm not even trolling. No one believes in. I was actually good as fuck.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I'm not even like you. I feel like they should believe. That's my stepdad. He's fucking like, bro, he watched me. Like my first ever game, he was sitting there. He watched me. He saw me on the sideline. I drew three these fucking shit sins.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Scored the goal. And this guy, like, told me after the game, like, yo, this guy's like, this guy's gonna go pro. Like, what was that insane? No. Dude, not. He tells me. Because he was like, you're the most talented.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Like, even now you can look back at it with like an adult mind. Oh, no. Like, damn, I really did have potential. Between all my brothers, because we all played. We all played. I was only forward, though. Everyone else was, like, defense, midfielder. I was only, like, forward because, like, I was really fast.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And, you know, he too. So does that mean you were, like, a Renato? I don't know anything about soccer, but, like, on the field, you were trying to score goals? Yeah, and that was my main show. I was like, bro, I got to score goal. And this is when you were 12? Yeah. After I age, I was there.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Because that was, like, when I was a little bit younger, because, like, fast forward to like when I was 12 and 13 I was on an academy team you know Ajax probably or no I was on Ajax it was basically just like an academy team I would travel to like San Diego all this other stuff damn yeah so the one day
Starting point is 00:08:55 I remember we did uh suicides you know what those are we go up and down up and I played basketball bro I was so gas and like we would do it like every day and it just got to a point where like I was just like I can't do this anymore bro like I just can't and like at that time I was
Starting point is 00:09:11 getting known in H2A for doing 1V1s. Really? Yeah, that was like, bro, I was 50 knowing Pete is like. How old were you? Like 12, 13. And I was getting 100 views. You were 1213, 12, 13 year old Shotsie,
Starting point is 00:09:23 because I know Pete is like 12 13 year old Chatsy's 15-0. Pete Tizai? There's actually a funny-ass fucking story. Like, I'm so, bro, I'm so like, what is the word? Like, for anyone that doesn't know Pete Tizzi, like Pete Tizzo was like,
Starting point is 00:09:36 he got top three, I think, a few times in like Halo breach or something. So he's a decent player. And you were, so you're playing soccer, and then you start getting into Halo and you're 15-0ing this pro player. So, yeah. So basically what happened was,
Starting point is 00:09:54 I'm playing one of you ones, playing PGLs, you know what those are at. I've, like, heard of it. It's kind of like game battles for Zoh that don't know. Pro-gaming League? Yeah, pro-gaming league. And then, so what ended up happening? I've 15-0ed him.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And then he, like, disputed and said that he won. but like he said oh my bad I did it like on accident and then I tweeted it out because I Loki got tight that he like disputed it my like fucking trollies like young self
Starting point is 00:10:20 I tweeted it saying like my bad dot dot dot dot and like you just see the score with me 50 knowing him you can actually find it on my Twitter really what year was that dude this was so long ago wait this was
Starting point is 00:10:32 hey little read no H-A oh H-A yeah damn H-TUA wasn't even like that long ago and you were just fucking 12, 13? 13, yeah. When did you get, when did you start playing?
Starting point is 00:10:49 What Halo did you start at? Halo, I think, Halo 1, I'm pretty sure. Dude, you were not playing Halo fucking 1. You were 3. I don't even know. Wait, so what year were you born? 2001. That's like when Halo 1 came out.
Starting point is 00:11:03 No, no, no. So the new, all the halos came out. I forgot what halo. I think we're at Halo 2 at the time. You just start late? Yeah, I played Halo 1 because that was like the only name we had. You probably didn't even know this, but my, uh, but my pro or my uncle was a semi-pro in Halo 2.
Starting point is 00:11:20 What was this game or day? MLG-C-R-O-R-O-E. Apparently, MLG, what? MLG-C-R-R-E-L. Cyro? C-Y-R-L. Apparently he, he played with OLA before, like, he was even older, before he got known.
Starting point is 00:11:32 See, these are the stories I hear, though. Like, I'll have people message me like, yeah, I was a, I placed this at this event. I was a H Halo 2 semi-pro And I'm just like, no, you fucking weren't I was a Halo 2 semi-pro I feel like I knew the A-Lo-2 I mean, there was probably a few names that Maybe went to a few events
Starting point is 00:11:52 Got like top 32 and I just like Didn't notice them at all Yeah So maybe he's not lying Yeah I mean I don't know he was fucking good I might lie Like he was good
Starting point is 00:12:00 So what you just started What was he your own school And you just start playing with him Yeah That shit's so weird to think about Dude Because I don't even know how Like the only reason I got
Starting point is 00:12:09 in the gaming was because of him. He was the only one that had a console, but I forgot the reasoning that I'd even go over to their house to begin with. I'm not going to lie. So you started with HALO. Like your introduction was... Bro, it's literally HALO.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Like, you go over, play HALA 1 or something a little bit. I was addicted, bro. I played campaign. Oh, it was over, bro. It was over. It's crazy. Were your parents strict at all about, like... Get off that goddamn game.
Starting point is 00:12:35 My mom was actually luck enough to be cool. My stepdad... was a little bit, I mean, yeah, he was kind of strict. He just didn't understand it. He came from,
Starting point is 00:12:46 he came from Honduras. So, like, for the, do you know where that is? I know of it. Yeah, it's basically just like, somewhere.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Somewhere over there. Somewhere over there. Actually, I don't know who is that. But anyways. Do you know where that is? Because I don't. No,
Starting point is 00:13:01 I don't know. You think I know? I don't even know fucking half the states that we're in. We're like, yeah, all right,
Starting point is 00:13:06 anyways. So, yeah, he was kind of strict. but luckily like as long as I did whatever like he told me in terms of like help me with yard work and stuff
Starting point is 00:13:16 he was great you some gaming time yeah he was cool with it so I was like I fuck it whatever um but yeah so then all right but then the whole running thing so the reason why I got in running was because
Starting point is 00:13:30 yeah I forgot about this I quit uh soccer because of that because of running specifically that's actually like kind of crazy like looking back at it because like I run now but anyways so I quit so then I wanted to I didn't want to like pursue gaming but I was just so addicted to the gaming and I just wanted a game all the time so then I told my family like I want to quit and like they're
Starting point is 00:13:51 like dude and like I'm not really sure about that I was like trusting me quit this fucking shit I don't want to do this shit anywhere so then I quit when did you or how old were you when you like stop playing this is like before this is like right when the H-OA was coming out and that's when like I officially quit it started like grinding so you're like what 13 14 yeah I was like 12 13 14 around the there and then that's when uh so the reason i got no this is when i started to get known in hale is when actually let's bring it back even back to hila reach bring it back before you were even one v oneing and you're just like playing solo matchmaking when did you think you were like
Starting point is 00:14:25 wait a second i got a 50 and did you have a team and 50 and doubles when i was when the first halo three came out when was that that was 2000 it came out in 2008 2008 so you were fucking you were seven It was like 2008, 2009, 2010. It was like a year after, though. It wasn't that year. You probably started in like 2000. It was in nine or ten. Whatever that.
Starting point is 00:14:47 So maybe you were playing in like 2010 when you were fucking nine. I remember specifically. I was on Narrows. I got the fucking Muller, killed this guy, beat him up. And then I got a 50. And then I was a, and then I never played on the 50 again. Never. Did you ever do that?
Starting point is 00:15:04 You got a 50 and just didn't play on it? Well, the ranks that I cared about were in Haley. 2. If you would have been born a little bit earlier and got to experience Halo 2, it was literally correct. It was the only game. Halo 3, it was like, I started getting good and it was like, yeah, I'll get home and let me put in some hours.
Starting point is 00:15:27 But Halo 2 was like, I can't wait to get home and grind. It was like- Halo 3 wasn't like that? Maybe in the beginning, yeah. But Halo 2 was like, I can't wait to get home from school. fucking I had all my Xbox Live friends the friends list was amazing like you tried to get pros and shit on your list
Starting point is 00:15:43 the ranks were like you there are only like two or three people got a 50 in Halo 2 yeah Washie was insane I think I think Elamite got a 50 Strongside got a 50 You told me Washington have a 50? No like people like Ogre 2 and stuff
Starting point is 00:16:01 Like they I think they were winning and shit So they didn't care that much about matchmaking But matchmaking was like a People, it was a fucking war. Like, imagine all the cod pros right now playing, like, ranked, but there's like a one through 50 ranking system. And you're like a 48 and you're matching fucking pre-stah and, I don't know, phase and shit. And you're like, and it's hardcore. And you're playing with a random four.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Like, it was the, like, smashing controllers after losing. I was, Halo 2. I was probably like 15, 16. And so I just, it was like at the end of high school as well. Did you know in Haliterno? Towards the end, I went to semi-pro and I was like an online kid. Like I was like battling the pros. I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:51 You're an online warrior? Kind of, yeah. And then there was like proximity chat in game to where you could hear the other team. And I would like talk to, like, you could talk shit the pros. Like I used to match either might. like, oh, I'm a loser, because he was, like, 18 years old, still playing video games. Literally, that was the biggest thing. I'm like, you're 18, you're still, like, jelling your hair playing video games.
Starting point is 00:17:15 You're fucking loser. And I was, like, 14, 15 or something. And it's just, that was the peak of my enjoyment. That's, like, that's what got me into it right there. But, like, I could not wait to get home and play. What game was that for you? Halo 3 just, like, doubles? Halo 3, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Did you not play what is it, team hardcore? Or? MLG? Like the MLG playlist, 4V4? VR star. I think I just didn't have anyone. I think that was like the main reason why.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Would you search doubles by yourself? Yeah, bro. Really? I wouldn't talk or anything. I would just... Deliver it. He just fucking... Little-ass kid.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Just like, either raging or... Bro, that probably had a big impact of, like, your play style. It probably did. Dude, look cute. Because if I had a teammate... You just got to do everything. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I was... I mean, I was probably... I don't know what I... I don't know my play style back then, but... Yeah, I just remember getting that 50, and then ever since then, I just did not play on that.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Were you a little rage or anything? Like, start betraying your teammates if you're losing. I can't remember, yeah. I forgot. Were you a little shit? I was. I was... I feel like this the way I am naturally.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Like, there's no way I was like that. Like, just thinking about it. Like, I don't see... I can't see that with you. Yeah. I can't see you being a little shit. I was actually like, I was. Because back then, bro, I was just like really quiet.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And like, I was just like very conservative and just like mine in my own business. You just, you were happy as long as you were on the game. If I was on the game, bro, I was literally licking my lips. Bro, I remember in Halo 3 like I was, Halo 2, I'm smashing controllers. I'm talking shit. Like I'm talking. Yeah, I see you at the event. We're fighting.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Like, it was like that. People were threatening to beat me up. I'm threatening to fight them. We go to the event Nothing fucking happens But I'm like I'm like 16 17
Starting point is 00:19:05 You wouldn't say that shit online Yeah Or me in person Then you get to the events Like damn I'm a fucking little Dweep too None of us are doing shit Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:15 It's fucking hilarious But yeah that was I was We talk shit the most When you competed Probably in the clutch Like I remember I was such a little shit
Starting point is 00:19:24 In the clush Clutch was a huge shit talker Really Fuck Everyone not everyone hated him everyone liked him but like he talked a lot of shit
Starting point is 00:19:34 and he had like beef with people the clutch even even me I was kind of I was kind of like that a little bit like the pros liked me but maybe like the top six like the top I guess pros
Starting point is 00:19:50 sort of liked me but like the top 16 I'd have like some beef like I remember we'd scrim and I'm just like me and Demon D would, like we were kind of like a duo and then Clutch was like, I don't know, I don't know what you, me, D, and Cloud would call ourselves the tricep and then we call Clutch the pinky toe. Like we were just like, bro, we were a team and we won a national championship and that was our mindset.
Starting point is 00:20:16 We were at A-Laddle. So he was like the weakest link. He just, he just, he, we just fit perfectly as a team, but we would argue all the time. Like, me and D.D. would just start like, like, like, we'd spawn up and just shoot him in the back once. It's like he wouldn't even know. He wouldn't even know, but we just, like, shoot him in the back a little bit. And, like, clutch under smike's just like, what the... Just, like, wondering how he fucking died.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I was a little fucking shit. Wait, did you all scream back then? How was the scenery back then? Nothing like it is now. Like, back then, we weren't getting paid $100 grand a month to... So we would... Yeah. All we would...
Starting point is 00:20:55 There's obviously no salaries. All we'd get is, like, prize money. Like, even... for getting third we get I think 2,000 each and like that would have the last months Damn Um
Starting point is 00:21:06 Wait what was the question I fucking uh Like screaming is it like Oh it's screaming Um no it's completely different Like we would start Because people had jobs Oh my god
Starting point is 00:21:18 It's crazy people had jobs and shit So we would start screaming at like nine At night right Like the earliest would be like eight Like 8pm would be like an early scrim But usually like 9 10 and then we go to like 2 a.m. And that was kind of...
Starting point is 00:21:32 You would sign on and then like figure out what the fuck you're gonna do. I feel like I'm not trolling dude, just like looking, like going back. Like, I feel like the only reason people would like... Would do the job is because of the fact that they'd just get old. We were all just addicted to it. Yeah, like, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Even if I get two hours of sleep, as long as like I do my job and like I know that I'm gonna be able to get on HALA that same night, like I'm doing whatever the fuck I need to do. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like I would do... I was like stocking shelves at a grocery store. Afterwards, maybe like go to the gym or something.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Because I've always sort of been into working out. Yeah. But mostly, yeah, mostly just gaming and disappearing for months. But yeah, I would do, I do my job,
Starting point is 00:22:17 come home, work out, come home, it's like 8 or 9 p.m. Then we just sign on. We're like, is anyone fucking on the scrim? Like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 it was so, it was serious. It was serious. but like we just didn't it just wasn't evolved at that level yet we just knew we'd sign on and there'd be like someone to scrim you just start looking at your friends list sending messages bro wait did you ever see like a hundred friends online yeah right a hundred people online because you know how a hundred was max would you ever see like 100 friends online never i don't think so i mean there would be a lot of fucking people in line especially halo two
Starting point is 00:22:50 bro remember halo three on the bottom of you to see how much people were online in like right when you loaded up your friends list or like the population literally the population I would say. I forget what the numbers would be. Do we do. Like comparing that to like where Halo's at now. Oh, it's fucking insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:04 It's like tragic kind of looking at it. I'm not going on. So you played Halo 2 or you played Halo 3. You're gone in doubles. Then I guess I don't know if you were like keeping up at the time. Like Halo reach drops. All right. And then that's when like I somewhat became known.
Starting point is 00:23:23 What's funny is that me, I don't know how we met, But me and Jesse eventually met in Halo Reach. Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo. For those I don't know. That's his Gamer Tag always been booboo. Yeah. And he came up with it because like... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:39 He just randomly came up with it. He said, that's what he said. Do you have any idea what it means? Buba doo, no. But he's like catchy as fucking. I like it. I always called him like poo poo-pooh-hoo. Like I would just make up fucking poo-poo-poo-doodoo.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Like, broo-boo-boo-boo is like such like a weird name. that like it like goes so well but like it just it's not even a gamer type there's like a Twitch chat it's like boo boo take my do boo I don't even know like no one knows what it
Starting point is 00:24:08 doesn't know what it means bro but it's fucking hilarious so what you start playing Hila Reed yeah so then we played uh what was that what was that play this called wasn't it like it wasn't ranked but it was like you don't talking about arena it was arena so it basically was
Starting point is 00:24:23 it wasn't MLG right I don't remember it was like the soul social version of like my brain's fried like everything's I'm pretty sure there was like I I could be wrong in this for the people that play to reach because they don't be mad at me I'm pretty sure actually not it probably was MLG anyways I play the play in this called the arena I'm pretty sure and then that's where I met booboo do boo-d-doo and like he was like somewhat my age and I would match him yeah we mean him we're like trying to get into like the scene and like I talk shit because like we were just like the same age we're like competing against each other
Starting point is 00:24:55 and then eventually like yeah we kind of just hated each other because like we I'd always talk shit against him like you'd match against him yeah and then you ever teabag him yeah well I shoot his body and shit yeah for sure I beat him down and then uh so then somehow all right and then I started getting in one v ones a lot I actually got on one v ones a lot you know AC Big Daddy or no what is it AC Big Daddy it sounds very familiar what was the only bones almighty they sound very familiar they sound very familiar. Basically, I'm pretty sure they're 1V1 kids, but yeah, if you go on YouTube, you can see me beating one of those guys. Anyways, you know Dream Crusher? He streamed. Stream 1V1s. Dream Crusher? Dream Crusher, something like that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:40 He actually had a decent movie. He used to have like 100 viewers on the Justin TV. I mean, but back then, that was like Justin TV. That was a lot. So, but anyways, he said if you, if you beat him in a 1V1, you get a, you get something. think you get like oh yeah you get adies on his friends list or something like that i was like yo low-key like this how i get this is how i get known yeah so i beat his ass right i'm like i don't know how old i am and then guess who so right after i beat him i guess who was watching
Starting point is 00:26:10 was commonly flies that's who was watching him really he he adds me and be like yo one v1 one and like bro this little fucking one v1 2b2 scene everyone's challenging he so then me and him one of you one I think he beats me and then like from there like I started playing with him but he was the one that like somewhat brought me to like the scene because then from there I loki started to play eights with like semi pros I think like somewhat known people and then from there I kind of just I didn't really get known because I was underage no one was like oh this guy's like underage but that's like I like did you have plans of like going to events or anything yeah I wanted to go to this one event that my brother went to but what was like the first event you wanted to go to
Starting point is 00:26:53 to. Anaheim and Haley Reach, whatever, whatever event that was. Like, was that, like, 2011 or 12 or something like that? I don't know who won it. I actually remember. You were, like, fucking 11. Bro, I was young, dude. I was crying, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I literally told my mom, I was like, dude, I'm trying to go. Like, I just wanted to expect it. That's all addicted I was. I was just trying to expect it. I wasn't even trying to, well, I don't think I could play. It's like magical when you're that young, though. Wait, that's actually insane. And I don't think about it?
Starting point is 00:27:20 Oh, my God. I remember crying, bro, because, like, my mom didn't let me go. but my brother ended up going You know it's a funny story My brother wanted to compete with people And they lost And like the guy So I think my brother
Starting point is 00:27:35 Got a ride from the guy that was teaming with to the event And then when they lost Like instead of that guy You're driving him back He left him at the event Really? So then we had to pick him up Which is fucking far from where we were up
Starting point is 00:27:47 Bro people used to do some Like desperate shit Desper shit to like get to events I remember in Halo 3, 2000, Toronto in 2008. I had a teammate. I lived in Maryland. There was a Toronto event. Toronto and a Halo.
Starting point is 00:28:07 What? I didn't know there was a Toronto event Halo? Yeah. In 2008, I'm pretty sure. You had your passport then? No. We drove over. And I don't know how it works.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I think you just had to like fill out a piece of paper and you could drive. But I'm like 16. seen 17 or something. These dudes from New York this guy thrust and like his brother or something. Maryland's like here on the East Coast. New York's like above us.
Starting point is 00:28:35 They drove four hours down picked up me and Demon D because we both lived in Maryland and then we drove like fucking 12 hours to Toronto or something and we got like top 24 or something and so afterwards we drive
Starting point is 00:28:50 they drive like 12, 14 hours like something crazy drop us off and then they have to to drive up four hours to New York. Like people did some desperate fucking shit. It's insane. I remember like this is how much of a little shit I was. And I feel like I was telling someone this the other day.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I think it was my girlfriend or somehow talking about it. But we were on the way back from Toronto. Like this is how much of a little shit little shits we were. Like we bought a cart in the eggs. And like as cars were passing, like we were just throwing eggs at people's cars. Like weird. And it's like I can never imagine myself like ruining someone's day like that now. Like TP in their house and shit.
Starting point is 00:29:26 But I was, yeah, like, I used that ding dong ditch fucking. Did you ever get in any? I feel like you were a good kid. No. What were you like? I actually was a good kid. What about like your grades in school? Oh, it's literal horseshit.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Really? I'm sick. Well, actually. Enough to pass. Nah. Not that I'm like, my mom told me that she had to put me in like summer school in like fifth grade, I think, or a sixth grade. I think it was six grade.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Oh, there. I'm pretty sure it was six grade. And then like me not knowing what the fuck that shit is like, I'm over here. getting told like oh like you have to do this because like you just have to like you like you have no say but the reason i did it was because i was fucking stupid as fuck really yeah so then i obviously i do summer school and then they just didn't tell you that straight up yeah they didn't tell me straight up with you so then seven day the grade i passed that shit by the way if you're seven eighth grade listening to do literally the free of shit like i didn't even so free like i swear like
Starting point is 00:30:19 like you could get all the left still pass at least that's what i didn't actually well no no i didn't Yeah, I feel like middle school, you got to... Bro, middle school was so easy. I just showed up and just... Yeah, anyways. And then in high school, like, all right, my freshman year, like, I started taking a serious because, like, oh, you're in high school. Like, this is where the big dogs are.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I took that shit serious and, like, I got, like, C's B's. And then not, like, junior or no. Sophomber junior, like, I didn't give a fuck. Like, that's when I started pursuing HAL-5. I became a pro in HAL-5 when I was 16. So, wait, when you're 16, what are you? you, sophomore? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah. Yeah, so, like, I started become pro and then, like... Sophomore junior-ish. And then that's when, like, shit was reps. Like, that's when, like, I wanted to... Shit goes... Everything else becomes irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Bro, I really wanted to drop out in 100%. So in HAL... I guess this is... HAL reach passes. You play HALFOR at all? I did, but, like, bro, I quit, brother, that show that. Yeah. So then HALO4...
Starting point is 00:31:20 What did you do during then? I think I was like playing Were you just a committed fucking gamer? Did you do like anything IRA? I think I played a, no, hell no. Besides soccer, I played soccer. Like casually? Not like, I'm talking like after you quit soccer, did you like,
Starting point is 00:31:37 you don't seem like the like, yo, he was hitting up parties, doing drugs and shit. Well, to this day, I have never gone to a party. Like, well, a high school party. Yeah. Like a house party type. Well, I've been to, like, Mexican parties and shit, but let's not get a party. That's, like, the only reason I went is because, like, my family went.
Starting point is 00:31:56 That's just like a Carni Asada. Yeah, like a... Karni Asada. Fucking, yeah, basically, yeah, that's like the only parties ever went to. And then... Nah, I've got invited, though, but I've just never, like... I mean, you know how it is. Like, you just want a game, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Yeah. I literally just wanted a game. I wanted to become... Actually, no, I was doing it for fun. I didn't really want to become a pro. At least... Actually, that was my dream. But I was mainly playing just with...
Starting point is 00:32:19 Were you kind of, like, a loner? or did you have friends, but like after school you dis- That's what made it like fun, just because like I was chilling with like, I mean, I was like, it depends on the year, but like I was friends like boo-boo, falkated. I mean like in real life. Oh, real life? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:33 In school, I had like four or three, but I had like one best friend. But then like after school, you just disappear. Oh, I don't know. No one hears from you. You ain't hanging out with no one. You didn't see me. That's kind of like where I, in Halo. to Halo 3, it's like when I stopped
Starting point is 00:32:52 like hanging out with people. But then like I also wanted to be cool at the same time. Like it used to like feel I remember I'd come home from school and then like go play basketball with like the neighborhood kids for like an hour then I'd come back and like brag
Starting point is 00:33:04 to my friends on next one. I'm like, wait, you guys have been on this whole fucking time? Yeah, I just played basketball. Like I'm fucking cool. You're not. No, I think what uh... I feel like my parents actually well, my mom specifically did like a really good job
Starting point is 00:33:19 with like god my fucking neck hurts how the fuck this hitch fucking do this was saying like how bad drugs are because I feel like
Starting point is 00:33:27 the only reason I didn't get into that stuff is literally because how like much she stressed like to never do that stuff do you know about I mean bro I think tell you about my fucking brain
Starting point is 00:33:38 did you do you know like anything about me going to like rehab and shit yeah yeah yeah bro I used to take so much Adderall the X I didn't abuse as much My shit was Xanax and Adderall
Starting point is 00:33:51 But the amount of Adderall I used to take Was fucking insane How old are you? I probably I started abusing it In I would say 2010
Starting point is 00:34:04 Halo 3 How old are you? I was probably 2010 Ato 3 I think it was 19 18 or 19 Do you remember Like who introduced it?
Starting point is 00:34:15 No I think it was I used to go to like Some local lands Where we just play And then like I started like She was probably candy over there yeah it was fucking but back then it was like you just take one 1 30 you're just
Starting point is 00:34:27 I'm just all I wanted I used to play like 2 v2s in a 3 just not miss a bullet I felt like a fucking god you're looking your lips and shit my first event I would go zombie mode it would make me like super unsocial though like I didn't want to talk to anyone some people react different to it like I've had teammates that like they get on it they just talk like this and their mouth that's all dry but they just want to talk nonstop and it me I would just like, I wouldn't want to talk at all. I would just be like a zombie. Like, you just locked.
Starting point is 00:34:55 But I think my first event take, I didn't, I don't think I took it for whenever I won 09 Nats and Halo 3, I don't think I took it. I think my first event taking it was the first event of 2010 and I was shitting. I was playing like, you took it then? Yeah. Or maybe it was the second event of 2010. I took, that was my like first event taking it. And I was like, I'm a fucking God.
Starting point is 00:35:20 This is. And then from there, every single, then I would try to take, then I'd take it and be like, damn, I'm not playing that as well. And then you're like, I need to take more. And then I'm like, damn, I took too fucking much. My heart's about to explode over my chest. And then we. And then now you need his annex. You can't yourself down.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Exactly. And that's how the cycle would start. And that starts turning into every event. I put this on my mother's life. I've never taken it. And I never will. but the only reason I like I know is this shit is because of like obviously I'm in the gaming space and like this is like everything
Starting point is 00:35:56 it's like talking about fucking throughout the entire year of like every season and like it's just insane like how much I know based on like I don't even take it yeah like I'm never just being sort of in the community which it's Adderall's just like a it's a huge thing around I mean even in real life it's a it's a thing like I'll meet some of I don't want to say who just people in real life who like don't game
Starting point is 00:36:23 they take it for work after work if they want to go out and drink they'll take it like it's people get addicted to it obviously regardless whether they're gaming but in gaming it's like motherfuckers will be in their room
Starting point is 00:36:39 just like not doing anything productive just like start taking it and then they'll start playing it they're like damn I can focus. At first it's like damn, I'm playing pretty good, but then it's like, damn, I'm not playing good. Let me take more and it's just worse.
Starting point is 00:36:55 That's why, like, every single time. And then when you stop taking it, you don't want, it turned by 2016, I would say, I didn't play a single video. I didn't stream ever without it. I didn't play ever without it. Every single time I was screaming, every single time I was streaming, I was always on Addera.
Starting point is 00:37:16 That's insane. And it would like, I'd go to sleep at 5 a.m. Here comes hex at 9.30 with the camera at the optic house. And it was just fucking. It was miserable. It was like the best of times, but like worst of times. But it's like I did it. It wasn't my environment that made it the worst of times.
Starting point is 00:37:35 It was like me making it just. Just because I was just addicted. And like if I didn't take it, I would. I had no ambition to play anything. And then that continued all the way to. all through Halo 5 I was fucking turning into like a crackhead basically
Starting point is 00:37:52 I'm getting it off the streets that shit's probably like you were getting it off the streets yeah I mean I had a prescription and I was getting it off the streets that shit and then I retired and it just got worse
Starting point is 00:38:06 isn't it one off a meth chromosome or whatever yeah and people would like lace it with meth probably do it with like fentanyl and shit now I don't know what the thing that's here's I don't know what was in my shit never do that stuff because like, I mean, one, well, you don't need to take that shit for gaming. Well, I feel like, I will say, I do feel like it depends like the person that you are. I think they're taking it for a good reason.
Starting point is 00:38:27 For example, like, if you truly have a hard time, like, focusing and like all that stuff. Yeah. I think there's a small amount of people that could, that benefit from it, don't abuse it. They take it like the doctor's prescribed and that's it. Yeah, not 100%. But it just gets into abuse and fucking 20. 2020, people were starting to... Wait, did you ever go back to Halo 3
Starting point is 00:38:52 and start playing in, like, 2019? Yeah, like, 2019. I went to do that. Yeah. Wait, what did you play set of it? Top six. But, bro, I did. I was really playing with...
Starting point is 00:39:03 Well, it was me Falcated side, but I was throwing Blazorese. You know Blazorzrezee? We just went as, like, boys. We just went as boys. We literally just did it just to, like, fuck around. But now, I mainly went to the event because there was a Halo 5 event,
Starting point is 00:39:16 Two v. Oh, really? Yeah, it was me, John, versus Neptune and saying. Oh, shit. Lucid? So by, like, I didn't go to those events, but then in, like, 2020, I broke up with my girlfriend. First, I went in the beginning of 2020. I was just, like, abusing the shit out of it, playing, like, I don't know, Fortnite or...
Starting point is 00:39:40 I don't even remember what I was. I'd play anything. As long as I was sitting at my PC playing anything. you're probably playing H1Z1 weren't you? Yeah Didn't you get big in H1Z1? Um,
Starting point is 00:39:50 I was decent Like I'd get like 1,000, 1,500 Maybe like 2K viewers And for me, I was fucking Like they're
Starting point is 00:39:57 I'm pissed off Because there weren't gifted subs Like I'd like I might have had like 2,000 subs just Like legit Which is I'm like dude
Starting point is 00:40:07 If there was gifted Subs back then That would have been like 10K Because I'm pretty Like weren't Didn't you have like An insane community Didn't?
Starting point is 00:40:14 Like wouldn't they always chat yeah they like yeah i look back trust me i look back and i'm like i'm gonna fuck this up big time but uh early 2020 went to rehab came out and i was like all right let me chill on this shit and then burgo with my girlfriend i was like i'm a fucking free man i can do whatever i want covid's out so no one's leaving their house there's like no then i was on you know i was on mutineers yeah that's like a so right yeah but like tugar just picked me up because it was like yeah like we're not going to use a fucking sub let's just get you and like you can do some content for us i was like works for me um so then yeah like after rehab or got out of rehab broke i'm with my
Starting point is 00:40:55 girlfriend started grinding i found out people were playing halo three again so i started doing that and then that just became i started taking like people would take a 30 and be like zooted and i i would take like 150 just to get out of bed and go shower then i hop on the game i'm taking another 150. I'm on 300 by the time I'm starting to play. Wait, 150? Yeah. My sketch, my sketch, my sketch, I'm on 300 by the time I'm getting on. Wait, this is when you're out of rehab? Yeah. This is, this is post-rehab. This is post-rehab. I'm like, I don't got to do shit. Like, it's COVID. Like, I can just hide. It's just, start playing Halo 3, start abusing it more and more. So like, whenever you're in the shower
Starting point is 00:41:36 when you're on 1-50, are you just like looking at the water? Oh, I'm like starting to heat. It's like starting to hit me. But like, what are you doing in the tower? You're just like staring at all. I'm getting it over with so I can get on the game. I'm scrubbing. I'm drying off and I'm sitting. I'm sitting down still like half fucking soaking wet,
Starting point is 00:41:50 just starting up a matchmaking game. Oh my God. And then it just got worse and worse as the fucking year went on. And then by the end of the year I was taking it. So rehab then teach your shit? Well, the first rehab, I only went for like nine or ten days. And I went in.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I didn't even go in with the mindset of like I'm done after this. I went in with the mindset of like, let me detox safely off this stuff. So like nothing. So I live. Because like when you get off Xanax, it's just not safe to do by yourself.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Like yeah. So I went there just to do that. And then when I got off, I'm going to, and I was like, I'm going to be better with this shit. Like no more back in the gym. That ended quickly after like a month.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And then the whole 2020 was a fucking shit show. And then by the end of the year, I was taking like three to 600. it three to 600 a day and then my schedule
Starting point is 00:42:41 was wake up play for 72 hours and then sleep for like 8 to 16 and repeat like it was it was fucking
Starting point is 00:42:51 how did you feel on 600 it's a feeling you'll never get without 600 it was fucking it's a the point is this
Starting point is 00:42:58 it I think it like ruined that how can I explain this after feeling that feeling that
Starting point is 00:43:10 feeling of being on threshold, it like made a threshold of something I'll never, I'll never be able to feel like that again. And I feel like I'm still like, I'm like almost chasing that fucking feeling. But it's like you feel once you're, I mean, there were half the days were fucking terrible. I would like feel like I'm not feeling it. I'm playing bad. I'm getting pissed off. I'm raging. I'm not enjoying myself. But then like sometimes it's like there's no feeling like it. But you're saying like dopamine wise. Yeah. Like I was my dopamine. and like serotonin or whatever was skyrocketing music i i listen to music now and nothing hits like
Starting point is 00:43:47 it used to hit like i used to blast my fucking music while playing like i would get in some zone like i loved it and it was just like but then i was like crying my once i crashed after 72 hours like there was just uh the sad the complete opposite feeling the saddest it literally bawling like But I was like That almost became addicting Like I would put on sad music On purpose just to like feel sad cry Then I'd go to sleep
Starting point is 00:44:21 That I'd wake up and repeat It was fucking insane And I feel like my brain My I feel like my memory Got fucked up I feel like just my I feel like my fucking IQ decreased Like I feel like something
Starting point is 00:44:35 Like it kind of it fucked up my brain And I'm like even to this day Like still repairing it And since then, I haven't been, I've, I like don't lock in ever anymore. Like, I still feel like I can't sit down and focus, especially on a video game. Like I got out, I was playing Minecraft and shit. Halo Infinite came out and I was like, dude, I can play like two to three hours and then I'm done with this shit. Like, it ruined.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yeah. Point is for those fucking listening and fucking with this shit, like, it literally ruined gaming for me. and I think it ruined more than that. Like it pushed my brain to feel this fucking dopamine serotonin, like this threshold that I think it's did to my brain that I'll never be able to achieve again. And it just, it's not good. For all the new gen.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And you don't fucking need it. I didn't need it. I won a national championship. I don't know. As a, I barely have any athletes, but donors and I even bring that out. Just because, like, you could probably trust me. Like, if I didn't win shit, like, don't, don't, like, listen to me.
Starting point is 00:45:44 But, like, I've won shit. I mean, people watch your POV and they know there's something special. Well, like... You look like your own 300. Your POV. Oh, I thought you're saying, like, right now, like, a little box and shit. No, your gameplay looks like your own fucking 300. That shit's all...
Starting point is 00:46:00 I promise you with all claw. Like, me, like, if I didn't claw, I would not be able to do it. No, I... Fucking, I, I've tried... Did you start... outclawing? I've tried and I could not get used to it. My uncle did it. Did you start clawing or just shooting with your middle finger? No, I literally started cllying. As soon as a young kid, like, that's how my uncle played.
Starting point is 00:46:20 So, like, I just thought it was normal. And then I... Bro, it's clawing. I swear clawing is like a cheat code. Bro, it makes you look so smooth. I'm telling you that you will never find someone that's like, that's not good at clon. Or like, if they barely start clon, obviously they're going to be bad, but like if you find someone that's comfortable with the brother. See, I would do some weird shit where like, I would say I'm like running the flag. I start clawing.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah, like half call. Yeah, I know there's a lot of people. I would half claw to where I'm like always, I always shoot with my index finger, but like sometimes I'd like, because you got to turn and pick up a weapon or like turn and hit why. In Halo, I'd shoot with my left, right?
Starting point is 00:47:01 I played Southball because my uncle. What? I played literally on the settings. You would, and you don't do that anymore? I still, I only do it in Halo, not caught. What? So if you played, when the guy on Halo,
Starting point is 00:47:12 you'd, to feel comfortable, you'd have to... Dude, what? It makes no sense. What would you need with? Right, right trigger or whatever?
Starting point is 00:47:18 Yep. And then depending on the halo, this is actually weird. Let me guess. Inverted and shit. Depending on the halo, it was weird. You would beat down,
Starting point is 00:47:25 like, Halo 3, I beat down it would be, but in Halo 5, I'd beat down LB. It made no sense because, like, you couldn't configure their settings. It was literally just based on the game.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Damn. what the fuck? Yeah, that was weird. But, yeah, To get back to my point about the Adderall or whatever, because I feel like it's a new thing, like, well, not a new thing, but I feel like a lot of people take this, like for competitive, like enhancement and all those other bullshit.
Starting point is 00:47:52 But for all the new gen people that are competing, I promise to that shit, I've been around it because I've been competing, and I've only seen people downhill taking that shit. Literally. Literally. I have never seen someone start taking it, and they just got better and better. and now they're got.
Starting point is 00:48:10 It's just a trap, dude. And I just don't want anyone to fall into that trap, and I promise you. Just because this guy's insane with that shit, doesn't mean that's what you need to take for you to be at that level. All it takes is... Fuck, no.
Starting point is 00:48:22 It was a down-ill spiral. Literally just trust the process. Trust your craft, and, you know, you'll fucking make something happen. Yeah. I mean, there was... I mean, I don't want to talk about that or all too much. Guys, we've got to take a break real quick.
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Starting point is 00:49:36 Do the fucking people give a shit? I care. I want to know, like, did you, I think I said this to you, maybe I don't know sometime I said it to you some but um me and Flamesword were an optic
Starting point is 00:49:51 shit squad whatever then there was like you and I think Falcated on the come up you guys were like a duo right and this was probably the first year Halo 5 came out and I think we were trying to we were thinking about like
Starting point is 00:50:05 who the fuck do we pick up and I think Flamesword mentioned like you and Falcated and I was like maybe Falcated I was like I don't I've never even like heard I think I've like maybe sort of heard of Shotsie But like I don't I just don't know anything about
Starting point is 00:50:20 But um We Yeah we thought about it The worst mistake of my life Wait so you guys picked up life lifestyle We picked up like lifestyle and chaser Who? Exactly Do you know what chaser is?
Starting point is 00:50:35 No Exactly And then we got like top 12 And we just fuck like Fuckish Like Like thinking back at it now Like now looking Falka and now look at you like
Starting point is 00:50:46 God damn Even if you picked this up I don't even think we could have competed Because of the age limit You know what I'm saying? I think I'm almost positive I think you were about to turn The age of or something
Starting point is 00:50:58 Low key Now that I'm thinking about it But I think we were thinking I mean I don't even know if You had a team or would have I'm assuming you would have Wait wait wait Was that optic B team or was that
Starting point is 00:51:10 We were just the optic halo team How'd you? And then, like, we had stellar on our team. He left because we didn't qualify for X games. They were COG at the time, talks? Yeah, they joined after. They joined, like, the second year of Halo 5. I got dropped for CLG, and then they won every fucking event.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Um, we were just placing, we get, like, a top 12. I don't even know. I think we might have got, like, a top eight. And then Flame Sword retired, and I picked. up like, I think it was like me, it was me, Ace, straight, sick, and nated, and we were a god swat on line for like a month. Yo, wait, hold on, wait, so random. But bro, how much do you think Flame made off that fucking Red Bull shit being on the can?
Starting point is 00:51:56 I don't fucking know. I literally have no idea because that was like so... Bro, I forget what year that was, but... Bro, I remember buying it and seeing his face and I was fucking mimelisked. Yeah, I feel like it wouldn't even be about the money. It'd be more about, like, you can be... He's going to be 40 years old and be like I was on the motherfucking Red Bull Can. Like, I mean, bro, like...
Starting point is 00:52:16 I don't think back that nowadays, if someone was, like, if Shotsie's on a Mountain Dew bottle, like, I'm sure that you would get a fucking check. Flame, maybe not. It could have been like, could have been $25,000, $50,000, $100. I really have no idea. What if you just got exposure? Yeah, but that's like a... That's actually fucking insane that he was on a...
Starting point is 00:52:36 Bro, this guy was just on that shit, dude? Anyways, but... What were we talking? Was I talking about something? picking you biggest mistake oh we got I was teaming
Starting point is 00:52:46 with me Nated Ace uh fuck you the fuck I just fucking said it me Naded
Starting point is 00:52:53 Ace straight sick and we were really good online for a little bit until we until we got like 12-0ed by CLG
Starting point is 00:53:01 and then we just started me and Nade started arguing and we would text we were like shit talk texting each other he was like
Starting point is 00:53:09 I don't think you're good and I'm like I think you're the worst teammate of all time. And like he'd have attitudes. I can't go positive in an online match. Did you still have a day? Like that text?
Starting point is 00:53:18 No. My text delete after like 30 days. It would be amazing if I did have some of these. Dude, that'd be so funny to like look back at it. So just eventually, uh, CLG, those little cock suckers probably hit up Hax. And we're like, yo, we want to join Optic. Fuck Maniac. Kick him off the team.
Starting point is 00:53:34 And then Hax was like, yo, we're gonna. Is that whenever you're living at the house? Yeah, this was like 20. The end of 20. So did you get kicked out of the house? So, Hex was like, yo, you can stay here, be in the videos.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Like, there was like smooth comp, make your vlogs, whatever. Stream, be a content creator, and you can live here. Just be a content creator for Optic. Or, you know, you can go do whatever you want. And at that time,
Starting point is 00:54:01 with Halo 5, my placings were like, we might have got like a top six on like an online cup or a top eight, but maybe, like top 12 it was just like nothing good nothing in so and I and I hated the game it was it felt heavy
Starting point is 00:54:17 I I wouldn't say I appreciate Halo 5 but like I understand their skill there and like if you can get if you can like master Halo 5 it's like no it was a really fun game I'm not gonna yeah I imagine it being fun if you're fucking good bro
Starting point is 00:54:34 now it's insane like but I was just done because I was over Halo 5 I was like brothers I'm not trying to even by the end it was me APG Ace and Heinz and I was like this is gonna be like a solid squad
Starting point is 00:54:47 like we're all fucking smart we're all selfless like this is gonna be a good fucking squad and then like CLG comes kicks me out they're like you can either go with those fucks and find some other team
Starting point is 00:54:56 or you can just be a content and I was like dude I hate Halo 5 I'm addied out of my fucking mind haven't slept in a week I was like I'm down fucking bad I need to change my fucking life and turn this ship around
Starting point is 00:55:08 and I was like I think I'm just done with competing man Like, there was times I thought I was like, I still could have competed and got like top six. I don't think I wasn't going to be winning no events. And then I think a year, maybe at the end of that season or like a year later is when Shotsie comes in. So the way it worked. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:28 So wait. So you're talking about 2017? Yeah. Was that like your first year? I retired at the end of like 2016. All right. So Halo launched 2015, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Hylon lost 2015, and I remember playing, it was either Team Beyond or, like, an Astro tournament. It was me and Falcidden. Me made finals, the first, like, month of the game or something like that, first couple months or whatever. We played against Frosty and Randa. Randa. Yes. I remember. Down to a T.
Starting point is 00:55:58 The ultimate D-Rider, but I like you, Rand. So, all right, keep in mind. This is when Bride was fucking insane. Like, he was literally the best player. Yeah. So we lose that tournament. Because, like, Brad's just fucking, I'm not really sure. like if he hard carried but like
Starting point is 00:56:12 they just won whatever so then from there for whatever reason I was like I'm quitting the shit really? Bro I'm not trawling I was so tight wait when was this like end of 2016 early 2015 oh really? The game launched like oh shit I remember we lost something like
Starting point is 00:56:27 fathom anyways fast forward oh my god was my voice cracking up fast forward uh we start playing or yeah so I quit I was like yeah I'm not gonna lie I can't do this shit so then I go to call Duty. I go to Call of Duty. This is BlackOps 3. So still while Halo 5 was out, you were like, yeah, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Well, I'm pretty sure. Like, the reason I didn't play is because I wasn't of age. I wasn't of age, and then, like, for whatever reason, Callow Duty was calling my name. I don't know what. The way that, I don't know. Anyways, so I go to Call of Duty and then, you could probably guess. I'm playing fucking 1V1 wagers. I'm a 1-5-1
Starting point is 00:57:00 wagers. I fucking knew it. So I ran up, I forgot how much I deposited, but I ran up all the way to $1,000. When I was 15, I'm like, holy fuck, I'm rich. I'm over your buying Supreme and shit. And this is your first cod? That I played competitively, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Like, every other cod had just played. Like, you just got good and started shitting on G.B. But listen, it was jet packs, though. So, like, movement, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was fucking insane on that shit. Bro, I was. Of course. I was flying on the fucking trees because there was trees on that shit.
Starting point is 00:57:32 So I made that shit to the 1,000. And then from there, but, all right, oh, yeah, that's another thing. Oh my God. All right. So whenever I left, I told my, like, my, like, my, like, my, like, my, like, my group. It was, like, me, Falcadibu, boo-boo.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Like, there was other people. Anyways, I told them that, like, I'm going to get a job being, like, a referee. Like, I was, like, lying. Because I didn't want them to know that, like, I was playing cut. I was trying to keep it, like, on the download. I don't know why the fuck I, like, thought that was. So then, like, I ran that shit to a thousand. And then once I ran it to a thousand, I came back.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And then, like, I was like, yo, like, I'm not going to lie. Like, I don't have a hell. I was just playing Blackhous three, like making hell of money and shit. So then that's when I started to win Falkit again. And then that's when that shit happened with like me and you, you guys didn't pick us up. And then, uh, so then it was like me, falcated Arctic or actually was it was like me saying Arctic in, uh, over two.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Remember? And he said that that's why he always jokes around and said like, oh, this is my like playground. So then what happened was we screamed. All right, literally the first week that I came back, I'm not trolling. You're going to know how to pick them. Bro, the first year that I came back, I'm not trolling. We stream Bibu Falka, yeah, Bibu Falkated, Renegade, and Shooter.
Starting point is 00:58:50 And then I convinced them to drop Renegade. I didn't know John. I didn't know, like, I didn't know, because, like, yeah, I just didn't know John. And I was like, you just drop Renegade. Damn, you chose. So then, no, that's actually kind of funny. So then they dropped Renegade. And pick me up for any again.
Starting point is 00:59:09 And then I go to my first event. UMG St. Louis. St. Louis. Did you go to the event? 2016, I think? Probably, maybe. 17 now. Bro, I'm like, you know Coach Phil or no?
Starting point is 00:59:21 I know. I know the name. Coach Phil. There's me, me, Coach Phil, his brother, boo-boo, falcated shooter,
Starting point is 00:59:30 all in one room. Six guys in a room. I'm sleeping in the closet and shit, right? That's my first ever. That's how it used to be. And then so the dude, oh my God, it's so on it. So then, all right.
Starting point is 00:59:41 We get in the top eight, I think it was, or something like that. We get in the top eight, my first ever event, I forgot out who we beat. We'd be sland them probably, I'm not going to lie. So then we're all jolly. This is like on the Saturday night or something like that. We're all jolly. We're like, oh, hoo-ha. Like, we just got top of eight.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Like, we're going back to the hotel. And we were told that we were done. And then we get a DM from, like, you just see Matt or some shit, saying, like, yo, you guys have to come. come back to the venue to play for top six. I'm like, what? So we sprint back. Guess we were playing?
Starting point is 01:00:15 CLG. APG. Aaron, or Ace, renegade, and I don't even know who the guy was. I don't know who the other guy was. But then we lost game five, 50, like 48.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Damn. For top six? If you see the video, you just see like Aaron going crazy. Really? I think it was like going crazy. Really? You see APG going like
Starting point is 01:00:43 Like that hit shit? Is this on like main stage or some random? This is a feature station. Feature station like hell of people were behind us and shit. I was going off. Plaza Game 5 Slayer lost that. But like it's just funny because you know they dropped Renegade for me and then like Renegay beat us.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Uh-huh. He was chilling some type of way. That's when they're on straight ribbon. Oh yeah. And then from there I slowly like it went just like that. Was it high? on the team? Yeah, I think it was Heinz.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Look it, yeah. So that was my team, but they dropped me for Renegade. No. That was your team? Yeah. And then they... Well, I mean, they didn't drop me.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I fucking quit and retired. Was your team? That's insane. But, I mean, they picked up Renegade, so they got it pretty good. Well, no, this is the same that, like, I played, like, full circle.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Yeah. I'm talking about this. Like, that's insane. I could have been on either team. You should have been with me. So then now, now that's, like, how my Halo 5 from there, like, it literally just went like that.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Literally. To play top six, I think we dropped foul-cated for Renegade again. That's another weird thing. We dropped foul for Renegade. And then we placed like top three, and then our X event, we won. And then I think we picked up Stellar, Eco, and then from there, we just kind of dominated. And then that's kind of my Halo 5 run. And then Halo 5 ends.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Like, there's no more seasons. Bro, literally, the Fortnite came out. I was grinding that shit, bro. But, oh, you were playing like wagers and stuff in a 4-4-9, right? We're always grinding one-v-one, this was, what was the last? Halo 5 was 2018 as well.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And then what, 2019, you're playing Fortnite? Fortnight, yeah. And then you grind it. And then, by and 4 came out. You just did like wagers and shit. By the 4 came out in 2019, I'm pretty sure. And then that's when I switched over to Colorado. I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:02:28 Let me try this, because I've always liked God. And then that's how I, I got known because I was playing one V-1s again. That was always. Playing one-v-one kids. People disputing, even though I win. They're trying to fake proof in all those other bull. The cutscene is so fucking dirty.
Starting point is 01:02:43 It's the most. It's the most... Maybe not the most toxic community, but, like, it's a dirty community. It's so dirty. It's fucking insane. That's why, like, I don't really fuck with anyone. But anyways, um... So, yeah, we do that.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And then, uh, and then it's eventually I got into the TV2. It was me and this guy named... I'm pretty sure it was Winaviti. What? Or was it? Fiber. I forget it was a, me and this 2v2 guy, right? And then we, we chowd Indr, Inder and Selim.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And then we'd, like, either win or lose, win, lose. We're, like, kind of trading. And then that's kind of how I got my name out there, because Indra would, like, stream with it, like, hell of viewers. He was, like, the known S&D kid. You know what I'm saying? And, like, everyone would watch his streams because, like, they were trying to learn some shit.
Starting point is 01:03:27 And then people were, like, seeing shots. They were like, oh, I know this guy. So then eventually, Selyum was of age. So then he went to become a pro cop player on phase. and then Inder didn't have a duo so I hit up Inders saying like, yo, you try to play tournaments? We play our first ever tournament, we got second and then like from there we kind of just started playing
Starting point is 01:03:44 like over and over again and then... You're like, we're fucking nasty. And then... Was that your duo for a while? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Me and Indira the duo for a minute. And then from there we're like, we were challenging it's optic on the team
Starting point is 01:03:55 and then we lost that show. But from there, we would just like, do hella high... Bro, we'd play for a thousand when I was like... So you like... I feel like you were never into 4V4... fucking. Ah, I was, I've always been a 1v1, 2v2.
Starting point is 01:04:09 So in like 2019, it was just like 2v2s with ender. 2B2s, 3V3s, like occasionally we get 4-4s, but that was like rare because like, no one would, no one to really play 44. Like everyone was just threes and twoskids. So were you guys kind of like a duo looking for a team? Like, let's go to a event. Well, we both were underage, so we literally did not be at any event. So then fast forward to like when I was of age into that off season. Keep in mind, I was still on Spice.
Starting point is 01:04:38 All right, so like, I was still on Spice, right? And obviously, you know Spice is Toronto Ultra. Uh-uh. You didn't know that? No, that's crazy. Yeah, so Spice is Toronto Ultra. So, going into the Black House 4, they kept, did you know that Stellar, Eco, and Renegade played with Teddy Rex and Rambi and played
Starting point is 01:04:57 in a tournament in Black House 4? And they're like, under Spice. Really? You didn't know that? Uh-uh. So they got like double first round, dude. Yeah. And then they kicked all them off.
Starting point is 01:05:06 And then they... They tried to, like, make them the cod team. Yeah, they tried to make them a cot team. But, like, obviously, I can't play it because I was underage. So they kick all them off. And they call me saying, like, I'm going to be the only one on, like... Like, we're going to invest in you, basically. Damn.
Starting point is 01:05:20 But, like, bro, I was going to pay $3,600 to literally do nothing. Just, like, wait to see if they form something around? Well, to be fair, they got the fucking bag at the end because I got bought out by Envy, which is, like, another story. But, yeah. But, yeah, so fast forward. I'm still getting paid, literally doing absolutely nothing. And then going into the off-season.
Starting point is 01:05:40 So it wasn't you an ender? It was just you? Yeah, it was just me. And then you were like playing 2B-2s with Ellie. Yeah. So then, Mono Warfare happens, the game that I won champs in. And then I was like, all right, well, I'm fucked because I'm on Toronto Ultra.
Starting point is 01:05:57 They want me to play on their bench team. I got called saying, like, you got to make your way up, all this other stuff. I was all right. Like, you know, I'm willing to do that. Obviously, I wanted to be on the starting roster. So, like, I was kind of trying to, like, ask Inder and Kyler what they were doing to, like, try to get on their roster. Because, like, obviously, I wanted to start, even though I didn't even prove myself. I was just being greedy as fuck.
Starting point is 01:06:19 So then what happens is Kyler had, like, hella offers, like, from LAT. Actually, I don't really know the offers that he had. I'm not trying to, you know, bait the whatever. But he had, like, a lot of offers. People were hitting him up. and then Ender had like a couple offers as well but Kyler instead of deciding to you know
Starting point is 01:06:41 choose one of those teams he made a team with me and Ender he's like you know what I'm just gonna risk it and like do what my guess says and fucking young guns and pick up Illy and Chi Yatzee and I'm under contract that's a crazy tree you
Starting point is 01:06:56 when I heard that shit I was looking at my fucking lips I was like bro I gotta do bro I'll tell the org like I'm going back Halo type shit. Like, you know what? Like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:07:08 Like, I'm going to halo. And then, uh, so then, like that buyout shit, they bought me out for like $300,000, I think it was. Not dude.
Starting point is 01:07:15 I didn't even like play competitive Call of Duty. Like, where does this money come from? It's the goddamn fucking question. That's what I'm saying. Yo, stroke out that bag. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:24 So, uh, so then that happens and then we got Clay, crim, and then fucking the rest of history. I mean, so I guess it was fucking worth it.
Starting point is 01:07:33 The buyout. I mean, So what, it was you three, and you were like, who are we going to pick up? And then you got Clay and Crum. Which is literally the perfect. Yeah. I think it was, I think that was the perfect. Bro.
Starting point is 01:07:45 5.5 first off is weird. And then you pick up, I think those two would be the perfect for you three, 18-year-old idiots. Oh, my God. It actually was, bro. Our dynamic, like, bro, I've never had a team like that. But it didn't it start off so high, did it? Fuck, no. That's, no.
Starting point is 01:08:01 So you go to your. I'm pretty sure they're trying to. drop me. Really? Let's try to drop me. After like the first event when you shit the sheets and choke. Which like I don't like, do you feel like you played bad or it's just oh no. If I was in this shit, I would have dropped myself too.
Starting point is 01:08:16 I was playing like fucking ass. But to be fair, I was playing really uncomfortable because like, I mean, it's like the same shit at Halo. If your teammates are telling you how to play a specific way and like you don't agree and you like have a specific game style that you prefer playing. Like you're going to play fucking weird and like it's going to throw your game off. And that's kind of how it was for me like. they're like, oh, slow down, slow down.
Starting point is 01:08:35 And, like... I was like, yo, I'm trying to speed up. You know what I'm saying? And then, yeah. But, I mean, I, like, looking back at it, I mean, I don't blame him, but, uh... They might... I'm sure they were right in some sense,
Starting point is 01:08:48 but also... Oh, they were right. I'm sure they... I was literally getting slammed. Like, bro, I was running some dog shit. I was running, like, smoke fucking trophy or some dog shit. I was put on, like, literally the bitch roll. And then once, like,
Starting point is 01:09:00 Kyle's a good team, bro. I'm not gonna lie. Tyler was like, yo, just throw in dead silence. Like I'll take the smoke I'll take trophy Kyle's such a good team I respect the fucking of Kyleor I mean honestly all those guys around
Starting point is 01:09:11 Like that entire Dallas Empire squad I fuck with the most But now Porter was a Porter was something in Cold War But like in He was what? He was something in Cold War Like he was like
Starting point is 01:09:22 He was interesting in Cold War But in uh In Mono Warfare He was literally like The best team man mind of my lie Really? Yeah Because he just had that like
Starting point is 01:09:33 the redemption. He got dropped from Optic. He fell with some type of way. I mean, it's good to have a teammate like that. Like, I'm sure all of you were so hungry. Bro, we were, like, especially- Tyler, like, which is sick of having, like, you know, teammates that. Or, like, he just, he just had unfortunate teams, I guess.
Starting point is 01:09:54 And then, Inder, like, bro, his passion is fucking insane. So, like, everyone would fed off that. Clay's passion was, like, bouncing off Inders. Like, we, like, bro, I probably reached the dopamine levels that you were hitting. Like, taking that six hundred. With having them on the team. Like, bro, it was insane. And then Porter fucking.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Deep, deep. Like, I hear you. Like, commander-ass voice and shit. Nah, that was a good ass team. So the first event. You guys stay together all year, right? Yeah, we stay together all year. But then fucking, oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:10:27 We win champs. And then we get a call saying, yo, who do you guys want to drop going to next year? Because they announced that it was 404. Like, oh my God Wait, what did happen with that? I forget. We literally won champs The next day
Starting point is 01:10:38 We got to call us, or they announced that 5'55 is going to 44 Because the entire community hated it All the pro players hated it Which like, yeah, it was dog show lo-key And then... Yeah, it's weird. Who did you drop?
Starting point is 01:10:52 We all are gonna call three of us And then we dropped the... What you and her? You're like Clay or Crim? Player Crim? One of these old heads, we just carried them all year. I didn't even know who to pick, bro. I literally did not know who to pick.
Starting point is 01:11:02 And, like, we all picked as a team. We all thought, like, dude, it was just, it was literally a coin flip, bro. Like, we might as well just fucking flip a coin in. No bullshit.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Like, literally. The next year, how did you all place? Well, first off, we got second. Your first fucking year competing and you win worlds? We went five events like.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Like, you did, I feel like you did not have experience like that. I'm pretty weird. And then just after that, it went, like Shotsie's a fucking guy. I'm pretty sure we win five events. Or four.
Starting point is 01:11:30 And then it just turned into the shots each show. where everyone was. And then Cold War. Everyone wants a piece of him. Everyone wants him on the squad. Yeah, kind of. And then, dude, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:11:40 And then after Cold War, the optic merge? Oh, my God. Bro, what I heard, like, that shit was happening, I was fucking mind-blown, dude. I remember I was in a parking lot in California, huh? The envy optic merger.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Yeah, I was literally in the parking lot. I get a text from Ray. Optic envy merger. Percentage of happening, 30%. next week 30% of it happening 60% Was he he was typing it like that Something shit like that
Starting point is 01:12:07 Percentage that happening 99.9. I was like what And from there like Were you kind of hype though? Fuck yeah dude Not only like Wait so you turned into optic when
Starting point is 01:12:19 When did that happen? After Cold War So after my second year plan So that was 2021 Yeah And it's 2021 Yeah
Starting point is 01:12:29 And then the rest of history. And then we won an event with Seth the first event. I'm just glad I wanted... I think I was there. Was it here? It's right here.
Starting point is 01:12:40 At the East Sports Stadium around? I'm glad that I won an event with Seth. That's all I'll say. I'm glad... Yeah, let's get into... To wrap this up, let's get into some questions. Favorite Cod teammate? Was it Seth?
Starting point is 01:12:54 Shit. Dude, Seth is fucking... I'm only team with him a year. That's so selfish to say like Seth. I don't know. love Inder. I love team with Inder. Like, bro, if I... Kyler, Inder Seth, like, they're all
Starting point is 01:13:07 in their group, bro. Like, they're all in, like, their own group. Like, those guys, like, I would team with him any day of the month. But if you had to pick one. That's so fucking hard, bro. I feel like Seth... Listen, if I team with Seth for more years, I would 100%
Starting point is 01:13:25 say Seth. But since I team with Kyler for, what, two, three years? Or something like that? Or two years? two and half because we dropped in a quarter of whatever I'd say Kyler Kyleor, yo, when is this shit dropping? Five days? Probably and like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I'm telling you right fucking out. Maybe anyone that is not picking up Kyler, I'm telling you right now, he is literally the best teammate would, he's literally the best teammate, bro. I've ever fucking had, no bullshit. And if you guys, like, you just have to trust the process,
Starting point is 01:13:54 trust in him and... Think all the Kod Kids are watching this right now? I mean, probably not, but like, it'll probably be posted, Not all the guy kids, but... But dude, he's just... I love color. Why'd you get...
Starting point is 01:14:06 Why'd you get so emotional when Seth retired? Bro, because, like... I don't know. I'm so emotional, whatever. Like, like, I'm not really sure if that shit is, like, an actual thing to... What's that shit called? The fucking...
Starting point is 01:14:23 What? What's that shit? The symbols and all that shit? Cancer and all that. Like, apparently cancers are, like, very, like, emotional? Emotional, but like... What the fucking?
Starting point is 01:14:31 I think you know when you see emotional videos? What's it called the fucking Taurus, Leo? So you've signs, but there's like a different word for it. There's like a, yeah, people will know in the chat. Yeah. Anyways, these idiots. You know what, you know when you see like emotional-ass videos and like? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Like you scroll on TikTok because you'll see dog videos. I get hella sad, dude. I get hella fucking sad and for whatever reason, just like everything was going through my head, like him retiring, like, officially being over. Because like the thing with Seth is like, he's, like it's so insane like Seth he wanted to play so bad but at the same time he just wanted everyone else to like he didn't want anyone else to feel bad
Starting point is 01:15:10 and like I just knew what he was going through and like it just made it like emotional just thinking about all that you know what I'm saying? Zodiac sign is the yeah yeah Zodiac sign and then Seth like and then him just be a good
Starting point is 01:15:21 bro I almost cried and like I don't really give a fuck sometimes I'd look at people like bro you could just tell like it met so much just like the way he was like It was beyond like the money.
Starting point is 01:15:35 It was just like the love of the game. This has been his entire life. And like I'm here witnessing one of the goats, like giving his like almost farewell speech. And it's like I don't, I love supporting the Cod team. Like I'm hype if they win. I'm like, I'm empathetic if they lose. And I'm like, fuck. But like to be there in person, Seth get emotional.
Starting point is 01:15:59 It was a different feeling, dude. It was a different feeling, dude. It was, because I asked him, I was like, did you cry yet? He was like, no, it's just, you know, he said, I don't know, something. Then, like, when he gives his, when he gave his little speech, it was just like, there, come. He was. It's like, that's why. He was hard, bro.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I'm not going to lie. That she was hard to, like, not cried in. All right. So we won't make you pick your favorite teammate. Halo or Cod, which did you? You won a worlds in both. Which one did you enjoy? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Really? I mean, bro. I mean, the world's in Halo, you guys stand up. you're just like nice. Yeah, well, dude, it's so insane because like back then, bro, the way I, like, had, the way I thought about shit back then is not how it is now. Like, I did not give, like, a fuck, dude. I was literally just playing, like, for fun and, like, I guess you'd say, like, I had an ego in terms of like,
Starting point is 01:16:45 yeah, I'm just going to win this shit. Like, I don't get a fuck. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was going to show up to the event, win this shit, dip. Like, fuck it. Well, that's the shotsy mindset. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I thought back then.
Starting point is 01:16:54 But now, like, I'm getting fucking turn. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, dad me the fuck up. We put in so much work for this shit. Yeah, I feel like now or back then you weren't. You, you and Cod, they'll like go to listens in sometimes. You're like, guys, let's fucking get good fucking shit. I feel like in HALA, I can't see you.
Starting point is 01:17:12 No, yeah. I was so mellow. Like, that's when like I was still with my shell. Like, I didn't really express like, you know, everything. All right, so you go with Cod over Halo. If you went back to Halo, you could pick up anyone you wanted. Who's your team? anyone I wanted
Starting point is 01:17:28 I'm my guess Renegade Frosty and definitely John probably my old team to be honest bro literally yeah my old team Ego and
Starting point is 01:17:40 the only because I've Cam with all them like obviously like I would want to play with Brad and like Frosty yeah yeah Frosty but
Starting point is 01:17:50 only because I had Cam and like you know what I'm saying Kevin dude Kevin that's one thing about Kevin like he is fucking insane cons it reminds me of Matt kind of like bro he just like
Starting point is 01:17:59 you always know know what's happening. Seller, like, I mean... Because I feel like ECO isn't... Like, you don't see him, like, sliding, being cracked. No, yeah. He's literally just, like, doing his thing.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Like, he's a teammate that you... It's weird how good. He's a teammate that you need on every team. Like, he's literally just fucking... And he knows that it went. So you just... You'd make your old team again. Yeah, basically.
Starting point is 01:18:20 We're fucking gross. Um... I have some lame ones. Like, how do you keep your mental in a positive state? Running, go. You are a fucking... Running.
Starting point is 01:18:32 You are, like, a positive kind of smiley person. Are you, like, ever secretly low-key depressed and you just keep it in, but you put on a smile? Or do you just, like, you maintain sort of a healthy lifestyle? I truly love what I do. Do you feel like if you weren't running, you would... Like, you have to run, or it's like you'll feel kind of like shit? No, 100%. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:18:49 If I wasn't running, then it would definitely be... I mean, that's probably one of the reason I kind of started because, like, gaming was just a little bit too, like... Bro, because I just put so many fucking... I mean, you're sitting in a dark. I mean, you're sitting in a dark room. I'm playing from one to seven, and then after that, I'm literally streaming for like five hours. Like, that shit could get draining. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Like, when I was young, it was, like, so easy because, like, you didn't really think about shit. But, like, now it's just so draining to where, like, I need to be fucking somewhere doing shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Or else it just gets way too, like, rinse and repeat. I mean, it's just, it's not in our human nature to be sitting in a fucking room for 12 hours. hours of like even if you got lights on it shit it's still like you're in this secluded box and it's just you're not even like being a human almost and you know it feels like after
Starting point is 01:19:37 you're done running like the the like calmness of everything it's so fucking relaxing even like yeah it's a weird feeling that it's so hard I never thought I would when I started running again I was like where the fucks this runner's high motherfuckers talk about but then like then once I got up to hit like just forced myself to hit six miles that Like the last mile, I was running like a seven minute pace fucking flying. It's so insane. I went too hard, though. I went, I did not go into running.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Like, I injured myself. I'd have to be out for a week. Even now, my lower back is, like, tweaked. That's one thing for, like, a lot of people that are going to get into running. Like, everyone thinks that your pace matters. Like, oh, like, let me do this as fast as I can. But in reality, to build your cardiovascular, you need to run at Zone 2. So it's basically your, uh, zone 2 is like,
Starting point is 01:20:28 Or you could like have a conversation. It's like 140. Yeah, it's basically where you're running and like you could at least maintain a conversation. It's like I think mine zero two is 140 to 154 beats per minute. Yeah, I haven't gotten into all that yet. Yeah, and I'm wearing this right now. But so yeah, you basically just want to like kind of build your mileage week by week and like increase it running zone too.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Obviously you want to have like fast runs to like beat up the, uh, to like make the speed up. so what you could do is like track workouts and you do like 400 meter sprints like four times with like a jog cool down or like a walk cool down just a little stuff like that or like a couch for a couch potato because I think there are people that are like the gaming community it's like there's a reason we get into gaming whether it's like we're like a little antisocial or like we just feel comfort in our rooms and the next thing we know we're in our rooms all day every day but it's like that gets draining on your mental. and I think there's a lot of people out there that like want to find something else besides sitting in their fucking room. And like even me and Hitch talking about it. Dude. Talking about running like it is like,
Starting point is 01:21:37 I wish people like. What advice for couch potatoes would you be like, if you want to get into this, like I promise in the long term you are going to, you will not regret it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it's the most hardest thing in life, but it's the most hardest like mental like sport.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I think at least, like, bro, running is like, that shit's so mentally like, bro, you're telling your, like, bro, your mind is telling you to, like, stop. Like, literally stop. Like, you, like, give up. Yeah. But, like, you don't want to. And, like, it's just, like, a mental battle, like, the entire run. And, like, you beating, like, your mind is, like, so rewarding. And, like, you, you will, like, expand and, like, you understand, like, your mind even more just by running.
Starting point is 01:22:17 And you'll understand, like, just because it's hard doesn't mean that you won't be able to do it and all this other stuff. but I remember so accomplishing I ran 10 miles and at mile four I had a blister in my foot I was like all right maybe I'll do like five miles
Starting point is 01:22:33 and like try this 10 and I was like fuck no that's the fucking mind that's the mindset that's got me to where I'm at to where like I need a break I need a break pass this shit
Starting point is 01:22:42 and it was like I don't care how long I don't care how slow I go I am finishing the I am going to have 10 miles on my fucking Strava account by the time on the do you follow the Goggins
Starting point is 01:22:52 do I follow him like on Strava or just like in general? Yeah. For those I want to get in running, get into David Gagins, he's literally the most, I look up to him the most, 100%.
Starting point is 01:23:03 What would you say, what would you, how should people start running? Bro, literally, I'm telling you right now, just watch a David Gagin's podcast. But I mean like, what would be like a healthy strategy, like, start just their couch potato, go run, go run a,
Starting point is 01:23:19 my advice would be like, go run a half mile and then walk back to your house. start do that for a week then maybe try a mile then i would say yeah well whatever your maxes divide that by fucking like hella like if your max is like one mile and then yeah do literally what you just said like jog a half a mile and then just walk back and like slowly increase that throughout the week so the entire week do that and then next week increase it to a mile and see if you're able to or like increase it to a point 25 you know what i'm
Starting point is 01:23:51 saying and then just go from there and you're going to hate it at first but of Eventually you're going to be like, I feel like I need to do this. The first month is probably the worst. But like I'm telling you right now, when you get over the hump, dude, there's something that like,
Starting point is 01:24:01 only runners that like actually do consistently understand, like how the feeling is. And even if you... It changes like, it changes life. Even if you do nothing with your fucking day and like,
Starting point is 01:24:13 you feel like a loser. Like, I'll have days like that fucking... kind of often. But like, if I get that... If that, if I get a workout or a run in, I'm like, at least...
Starting point is 01:24:23 You go good. You got one fucking dub. Like, I don't, it alleviates a lot of, like, stress and just this mental sort of attitude you might have about yourself. And it's like, it's just an easy W to chalk for the day that you are in complete control of. I think the thing that drives me is, like, the, I don't even know, like, the self-doubt, I guess. Like, so my goal is to run a marathon. But I just did, like, 11 miles. And I was thinking of myself.
Starting point is 01:24:52 You're like, damn, I'm not ready. Huh? I was like, and you're like, damn, I'm not ready for this shit. Yeah, like, that's the thing. Like, I'm telling myself, like, I don't think I could do it. But, like, I think that's what's, like, driving me. Because, like, I want to see if my body's able to, like, do 26.2. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:25:08 Yeah. Because, bro, do you win 11 miles? Like, bro, oh, my God. I did 10, and it was like. So hard. Wait, I keep in my, I was running at 97 fucking degrees, bro. Like, you probably can't tell how 10 I am. It's different out of the camera.
Starting point is 01:25:20 But, bro, it's hot. I was doing, I was doing three to four miles, like, pretty. easy and then once it started it started hitting like 100 because I'll run like sort of middayish 11 noon and it completely I get two I got two miles in and I was like
Starting point is 01:25:34 what the fuck? I don't feel good like I don't even know if this is like healthy no it's hard as fuck dude especially I can't even run in I have to run in zone 3 right now it's impossible to run the zone too I just go to way too slow I'm like walking at that point yeah
Starting point is 01:25:47 I need to get a watch and like get into if you get a watch like it's just gonna be Gigi you'll be addicted to telling you. With your phone is probably not, like, I don't know. Yeah. I don't even really, like, trust this shit. What, uh, right.
Starting point is 01:26:05 I had another one. Oh. I guess we can end it off this one. What advice? Because you're the young next. There's, there's only a few people that come through with, like, this. It's like, we call it a generational talent.
Starting point is 01:26:21 I think there's, there's, like, obviously, ogre two. Oger one. Ogre 2, Ogre 1, then a lethal, then a snakebite Royal 2, then a formal, then a shotsy. What advice would you give to these? Because somehow, some way, there's people younger than you. Because I feel like you're fucking 17 still.
Starting point is 01:26:44 But you're getting up there, man. What advice would you give to the next shotsys or just up-incomeers trying to make it into... It doesn't even have to be God, Halo, any FPS. there's sort of like a mindset in a practice regimen that I think you need to have. Do you have any advice of like what you, maybe you would have done different, been a different type of teammate, would have put in more hours? Do you have any advice for those trying to make it? I'd say be a good teammate and like I can expand on that by like whatever your teammate says, like just like actually listen and be open to the conversation instead of just, you know, like nah, like fucking.
Starting point is 01:27:26 that I'm not doing that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because being a good teammate is literally like such a good, like, part of being a successful team. Because if you guys are actually being a team and like conversating and have good topics and all that stuff, that shit could go a long way. And then on top of that, it could give you more options to get on different teams.
Starting point is 01:27:42 And, you know, people will talk good about you. So that stuff is definitely undervalued. So definitely be a good teammate. And then just trust your craft, trust way, you know, you put your hours in and all that good stuff. And, yeah, just be a good person. Be humble, bro. Literally.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Just be humble. Just don't be weird. Yeah, I feel like being a good teammates, very, I mean, being of good teammates, such a broad thing to say, but it's like, it really does spread within, like, the top players of, like. It goes such a long way. I can't stand a motherfucker who says, like, if you're not in the friend's inner circle, you won't get picked up.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Like, no, you're just a fuck. No one wants you on your fucking team because you're, you ain't good enough to be the type of type of teammate you are. Like, no one wants that attitude on their team. Like, you're not. good enough to have that attitude like trust me it's not this fucking inner circle shit
Starting point is 01:28:31 there's like a word for it that people say like there's like a I don't know there's just like you gotta be like friends with the top players and they just all kind of like friends don't and yeah they just all trade each other and you if you're not
Starting point is 01:28:48 in that group like no motherfucker if you're good enough and you're a good teammate person you put in 100% effort and like it's shown like people people talk and like that's how you stay relevant and stay on top and get on good teams and not just like get in the scene and they get kicked out
Starting point is 01:29:07 because motherfuckers just don't fuck with you and everyone has their own path by the way like just because I was successful at 16 17 or whatever doesn't mean that you won't be successful like when you reach 21 or something like that you know what I'm saying yeah like everyone has their own path Like everyone has, you know, lucky past.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Everyone has unlucky and it takes a minute. So as long as you're trusting it and just keep grinding, do your thing. And yeah, that's it. All right, man. A lot's going to do for the episode. Appreciate you coming on. Shout out the hitch. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Shout out David, brother. Yeah, we, uh, maybe you'll be here next week, brother. All right. Thanks for joining, man. Later. Catch you as the next one. Appreciate everyone watching. Later.

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