The Flycast - The Best Controller Spike in CoD History | The Flycast Ep. 203

Episode Date: August 10, 2026

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It's like, bro, it's the best controller, is the best controller spike I've ever seen. The one thing I really remember is like, I'm slamming it. And all I hear is, you cry, baby, bitch. I just walk out. I'm like, someone like. Yeah, like in the crowd because they, because that hallway was like,

if the crowd just turned around and looked down that hallway, you can see everything. Yeah. Fuck it. I was not waiting, though. I just need to get right behind that curtain, and here it goes. Fuck that.

I mean, I'm glad you waited. Well, welcome back to another episode of the flight cat. episode fuck i don't even know because it's not up yeah i think it's like 203 203 we got scrap in the building scraps in the building the man the myth legend our favorite pro player outside of opta yeah by far am i speaking for myself yeah i mean i don't know no he's up there for sure anybody who's been on who else is on your mind anybody who's been on around the bars they moved to the top

the list. Anybody who doesn't like curve me and say like, yeah, sure. We're not getting around this one. What?

Who's number one? Outside of Optic. Who's your favorite pro player? Like current pro players? Uh, yeah. Like people you like to watch

their attitude. Play style? Play style. Everything included. The way they look. So, play style. I'm out the window. Yeah, play style.

I like your play style. See, but I played like you and I was like the scrap of Hila. No. No, he wasn't. Don't let him. Except just like, I just didn't place as good. So you're like...

He's like the hitch of Halo. So who's the shitty version of you? The shitty version of me? Yeah. Because that's who I am a payload. Don't say Bruce. I know he was thinking of it. Anyone that's just slower than me?

Like very slow. Who's... I feel like I don't know the... This error is past who I know. Just people that are like... All right, so like, what do you think of my play style is? Like slow. but don't miss and kind of do shit right?

See, that's where... Dude, you don't know a ball. I'm not slow. You're not slow. You haven't seen the clips of him and Bruce going back and forth and say, who has better movement? Uh-uh.

Just because I don't have movement, it doesn't mean I'm not slow. Or it doesn't mean I'm slow. Right. So you play fast, you just don't... Don't have to try much. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, ball.

I'm not going to lie. Listen, we have, like, call of duty people in here. I can't tell you. actually I could tell you on my hand how many series I watched this year and three of them were a chance

so no I am not I'm not up with I don't know ball I make myself look slow to like someone watching you're not doing like unnecessary bullshit there you go

you're like shotsy and it's like everyone's like oh my god he's so fast you're like this motherfucker ain't and like that's just making it look making it look fucking insane you know some people thought I was Shotsie. Like they watched my P-OV. They didn't give me my name or my anything. They thought I was Shotsie. I don't think so. Zin thought it.

Is this like actually a thing? There is a video. Like your name wasn't. There is a video. It just showed a P-O-V. Scrap pay-Pow. Scrap out him and said yo act like they were like and they were like, dude, dude, I got a question for you if if all the, let's just do the top four teams. If the top four teams switched their ARs, the ARs had to play sub, the subs had to play A.Rs, who do you think has the best shot out of the four of y'all?

We might be up there. We gotta be up there. You think so? We gotta be up there. I would love to see, I would love to see Ant try to hold a whole a fucking angle. Do you think he could do that? No, I could. Yeah, I think there's too much like, yo, I think you guys might give you home the worst. I actually might agree with you. Like it might go from like a top

two to bottom two. It's just Mace's not changing anything but the other ones have to flip. Like it's about like, not even Brandon or Mace might be A and Kyler pulling out the AR. They're going to be like, dude, this is, I need to get going. They get bored. I need to go. Yeah. You never got bored. Nah. With the AR yet.

You always been AR? No, actually, when I played like local lands when I was like 12, 13, 14, 15. You're always a son. I feel like I look at you and I see a sub. Yeah, I ran a sub. It's like there's a. Jesus. How was that pause?

I look at you and I see a sub. how could a sub be sexual it is Matt back me up here you just want Matt to think of something to it okay no you're right my bad

I look at you when I see a sub all right well I was a submachine gun player well I'm just just attitude wise like aggressive you know I was a sub player and then I don't even know change I just like

World War II I played search and I was really good with the SDG which is like an AR I played war World War II last night. Randomly. That game is ass. Is that the one Kenny was Agatha?

Yeah. Yeah. That's his first year. That was his first year. That was his rookie year. Yo, we were talking about with Brandon yesterday. 2018. Who do you think...

I think we came up with the three goats of the three title, of the three developers. So, I want your opinion on this. So the Treyarch goat, as of now, I mean, it has to be Semp because he won champs, I think, in all three. or all three of all three of his and then the the goat of uh sledgehammer bruce this is bruce brought it up he said kenny is the best sledgehammer player ever but that's like vanguard war two vanguard war two mw three yeah and then the the best uh infinity ward guy uh goat ever is is crem that that's that's yeah that's what's infinity

war iw yeah uh i w um w 19 uh ghosts so Porter No that was Porter is good but like Who's people's

favorite IW I'm trying to think who's good at IW and MW 2019 and MW 2022

there's not much overlap there's not much that you can play that long yeah exactly I mean yeah you can say

Porter I would say I actually like that and I mean simp yeah for Tray Arc I mean I mean it's got to be

close somewhere to one title I know because it was in the same pod he was like he was like I've just

and good at different ones. That's fair. He like randomly, he was good at, he was really good at 2019, but he said he didn't like it. And then, yeah, I don't know. I'll tell you. I'll say, you guys probably got it, those three. What is there, Treyarch, Infinity Ward? Sledgehammer.

Splatchhammer. Who's loved, who's hated? It switched one time. It switched. Treyarch's love. It switched in the middle of Cod. And what is Treyarch made? All the Black Ops.

The game we're playing. Black O'clock. last year four three two ferric's loved who isn't so loved the other two there's not like a middle there's not like a middle that a bottom i feel like people like people like sledgehammer more than if any word yeah yeah but infinity ward was was the loved one and then they it just they just they just fucking after ghost came out i just oh they made ghosts yeah well because like if any word made cod four monot for two and monomer for three literally three of like the top ones ever and then

I don't know that what happened I don't know what happened IW was that first in the next one yeah ghost ghost and then they like halo did they made Halo 2 exactly three Halo reach then they made Halo 4 and Halo 5 right then they made IW then they made 2019 which was weird and then they made 22 which is by far the worst cot ever made and yeah so that was yeah for like a casual I would say that is competitively that I wouldn't say so

Betterly, I say this game. This game is the worst ever? Competitively, yeah. What about it? Just like, there's no really skill gap to it. The guns are insane. The maps, like, are very one-dimensional. There's not a lot of, like...

You hate the NPC, huh? I hate the NPC. I hate it. I can imagine. It's just like... It's not fun. Yeah. I'm not saying the drive was better

because it wasn't, but I don't know. I just thought it was more... I don't even know if it was balanced, but yeah i don't know i just it was just an ugly gun yeah i mean that's i think we're every gun is just insane like we took the ar out and put a new ar in it's even better right if we took out another sub if we took out the mpc but another sub in it's even better than the mpc yeah i remember dude i remember like week two y'all were doing testing and y'all were trying to run like the worst

ars with like the weirdest attachments in order just because all the guns are just crazy and probably still four bullets across the map yeah right that's nuts that is crazy that um damn i I forgot what I was going to say. Especially fucking on PC servers, where it's just everything's easy enough to aim. I feel like everything's easy these days. Before we get into Cod, I don't know what you did around.

I know y'all did around the bar. I don't know what kind of questions you asked, but let's start from the very beginning. For some reason, before we start talking about Cod for 45 minutes. He starts laughing before he was saying something. Wait, before we start that, before we start that, I got like one little like question.

Okay. that has been floating around the internet I want you guys' opinion on it it's like a would you rather type thing would you rather go to jail for three years or would you rather go to jail until your mom beats Eldon Ring?

Mom's not beating Elden Ring. You don't think so? Fuck now. You don't think your mom's being an Elgin'Ring? She's almost 70. She could lock in. Bro, me and your mom are like, not me and your mom,

but my, our mom Our moms are like the same age Is your mom beat on ring? I would give her less than three years. Yeah, you got to think. Like, it's not a... Like, you gotta imagine. Like, maybe like two years.

But like, you gotta imagine like, yeah, they're gonna have time. There's so much time. They're gonna... I guess are they like getting every cheap little thing that you can possibly get in the game? No, it's not a level one run.

They're beating the game. They're... Get my son out of prison. Yeah. So they're... gonna have all the little like, I don't know what the words would be, like little trinkets and armors and everything possible. They can YouTube.

You have to then imagine your mom at damn near 70 with a controller and paddles, like, dodging at the perfect fucking time. I think, I think, I think, I was thinking about it. I think my, like, my mom's not a gamer at all. Like, she played Tetris 20 years ago. And that was, that was it. But like, you got to, it's the balance of like, gamer or like love for your son.

And you know what I mean? Like it's so, it's so, my mom would just take a Xanax and like, accept it. Dude, if my, like,

that's, I don't know. If my mom was in prison and they were like, the only way to get your mom out of prison is to get a perfect SAT score. You know what I mean? Like, I'm, I'm,

I'm grinding. We're chaw. Start working out. We're chalk. You got three years to work out. There's no perfect. My mom's got a way better chance of being a other ring than I got to get a perfect sate you're not even close you wouldn't study your ass off I just even if I study my

ass off there's no way I'm getting a perfect score I would study my ass off and not even get close you could take it multiple times I'd be two years in and be like we're I'm still getting like just like a smart Indian high school kids score it wouldn't even be like Matt Craig what about you three years or mom be seldom ring visit bet mdmg casino and check out the newest exclusive, the price is right fortune pick. BetMDM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly. 19 plus to wager. Ontario only.

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You'd have the Lund Room? Yeah, I'd let a try. Because the worst that happens is three. She takes five years. Three and a half years, four years. But the best that can happen is that you get out in like a year and a half. She locks in. She locks in. She locks in.

So no side quests. So no side quests. Or are we talking side quests or just 60 hours? She doesn't have the 100%. She just got to beat the big, have you ever beaten it on the ring? Just beat the bosses. Yeah, just beat the last guy. You should play it.

I never played a single player game. I was one of those people as well. Like I only wanted to play multiplayer. I have to be playing other people. But I did an Eldon Ring marathon, and I think if you do play it, like you're not going to be able to just casually sit there and play Eldon Ring for like three hours,

even on or off stream. That's what Zen did. Maybe in the off season, I think if you did a Eldon Ring marathon where you're playing 12 to 16 hours a day and a 24-7 stream, one I think that shit would bang. Two, your reactions to dying

and it being frustrating. See, I'm a rapist. I know. That's why I'm ready to slam shit. That's why my shit was successful doing my Eldon Ring stream. It's because of what, like, I'm not even a, I'm just not really a gamer anymore. And I'm definitely not one of these, like an Eldon Ring player, a single player game. But if you did a marathon with this, the stream, it would, I think it would go so well for your stream.

But you would, it takes, my first one took five days. Yeah, something like that. I got to be better than five days. I was, I was. No matter what you do it in. I got to be better than you. But I was sleeping on a bunk bed, stream webcam here. We, like, rented at Airbnb.

And it would just be, like, wake up. It was up. All right, go shower. Sit down. And then until I go to sleep, I would eat and stuff between. But, like, I'm on stream 24-7. It's goddamn jinx you over here. But I think if you did that, you would be unsure if you're going to like it,

but then you would beat a boss and it would be like, all right, what's next? Like, how hard can this? wasn't that bad how hard can this get and it gets hard and you're like I just I just love that you would you get sucked into the game like doesn't it doesn't have like it never ages out like if you went back if you went back and tried to play

a single player game from like I don't know like five years ago which I guess this is from five years ago any other game like people would be like oh he's playing Assassin's Creed okay whatever but like Zuma got on literally yesterday played Eldon Ring for the first time and his stream was banging it's just like everyone wants to watch Eldon Ring for the first time

I actually, I've watched it. I've never played it though. It's such a fun game. We were actually watching a bunch of old world record run. So, like, yesterday we watched the, it was a guess of Mario on Nintendo 64 of like somewhat speed running it. Yeah. And this shit.

Like, I seen, like, you can, like, glitch out the ring and, like, speed running it in three minutes. It's, like, not even, like, real. The Nintendo one, or the Nintendo 64, Mario one is, like, mechanics. It's like glitch mechanics. Right, right. So, like, this guy is moving across the map. And I'm like, can we see this?

They're still, like, there's still, like, finding yeah look at Nintendo 64 like Mario like speed run what do you think it's the most

impressive speed run it's gotta be it's gotta be Mario 64 it has to like this one we're about someone

did Minecraft in six minutes I know I I used to watch like Tfu do some of that shit the and it's just like

the Mario 64 speed run is the most speed bed sped run the most the most

speed run did the game of all time like it's like people try to do it yeah there's They were like still finding stuff out a few years ago.

Like new mechanics and stuff. I mean, like, I'm pretty sure the guy that has the world record, he had it like, whatever, 615. Yeah, this guy right here, top one. This guy is turned. I just want to see what, like, what's this movement looking like? They sprint or they jump backwards. Yeah, like to go up the stairs, they like. They turn around.

He is a speed runner, huh? We can't, we don't have sound map, but that's fine. It's like the most the most amount of time is like in between. Oh, we got, we got this time now. Yeah, I watched this yesterday. This guy is turned. Dude, why were you watching this yesterday? Like in a Discord?

Not just like, not just like for scrimms and stuff. We just like watch random things. Look, look, through the map. Just, dude, dude. What? I'm telling you. Just completely glitches through everything. But, like, he's low-key moving at certain points.

Like, I've never played this game, but this has got to be... Like, he's got to be flying. Oh, yeah, and dude, this is... I mean, it's, it's like, incomprehensible what he's doing. Having played this game... I mean, yeah, you guys are old enough, so, like, you definitely played this. Like, is this turn? No, it's not...

It's not... It's not... Turn isn't even the word. It's... It's... It's... I can't even understand what he's doing. Like, I... Just fuck Bowser up real quick?

This is the last boss. It's just like I wouldn't grab your itself. There's like sites for that. They exist. Yeah, dude, I don't know. I don't know if I would have the, would y'all have the patience to be a speed runner? Fuck no.

So what I was about to say is, whatever, he did this in 6.14, it says. I'm pretty sure, like, his old one is like 6 something somewhere. 615, right? 615, 10, he beat it at 614, 2,33. Five years it took him to get 0.7 seconds off. Why does he keep

If he has the record Why does he keep going? He wants to be the best Because this is his life Like does he know like man If I don't speed running I'm not gonna get any use Dude I'm bet you

I bet you got like 15K viewers Right here watching this Like live Yeah He's probably got 15 20K I can imagine Well daily subgo 20

20 genre of I have to speed run. You have to be if you're doing this. Yeah. Your perma fucking. Have you ever heard of the YouTuber summoning salt?

Uh-uh. When you look up summoning salt, he makes like full documentaries about speed, about the different like games, uh, in the speed running community. And he goes back.

So like for Mario 64, he'll go back to literally like 2001. Find like boards. Look up like videos and then do it from like popular. So like, Look, Mario, the history, look how many views these have. These are all, these are all like the, the history of, you know, of all the different games that are in the speed running community. Like Tyson's Punch Out.

The history of Rainbow Road Records has 10 million views. 10 million views. I don't want to see the Pokemon Red versus Blue Speed Run. Dude, it's so good. It's so good, because he'll go back to be like the first ever time that anyone ever, like, you know, was speed running this game. was in it's a whole story 2002 and the guy beat it in nine hours and then and then you see like the he'll show like a chart it goes from nine hours to like three minutes it's like in like over the last 25 years 2002 man that's the year 2002 that when you were born a year that's when you're born

that's what nick graduated high school hey how old are you got to be like my brother's age 34 yeah you're my brother's age graduated oh nine talked about this yesterday with uh Chotsie and Dashie. And doesn't even know the year he graduated. If he did it all. I don't know. What kind of YouTube videos? Because you said you were watching a speed run with the team.

Yeah, that was with the team. But I guess like maybe even with the team or are you a sit down, get some food in the evening. Do you lay in your bed? Do you sit there and like prop up your phone? No, I sit at my setup. And just, you said it your set. set up and watch YouTube? Yeah, literally nine hours.

Not like TV shows. Nah, not a TV. I only watch TV if I'm with my girlfriend. Like no shows, no movies. Not, no, only with my girlfriend. Right. Because I got to really watch, like, turn my TV on. Right.

YouTube Twitch. What do you watch on YouTube? YouTube. You got a nice meal in front of you. I like crime documentaries. What are we seeing on your recommendation? Like body cam footage. I love the ball.

Bro, I was addicted. Like, damn. Body cam. You know, it's probably bad because I'm probably like pretty unsentatitized to a lot of things now because of like Twitter nowadays and just I've seen it all on Twitter you see it all I try to not see that yeah no it was getting bad for it I was watching so much

body cam I was watching so much body cam footage that like it got to the part where like if there wasn't a shootout I was starting to get bored like that's so bad that is bad I'm like no wait no one shot no one shot like all right let's go to the next one even less like just like if someone like for like a murder mystery I like murder mysteries I like I like weird sports

I like watch snowboarding Oh really? Yeah I like Wait where'd you grow up again? North Jersey That's where the snowboarded for like I snowboarded for like 17 years Oh what's that hell

And then Like God and I was like I'm out of here This jersey well great segue Let's go back to your childhood You were born in North Jersey Yep. We're at North Jersey. North Jersey. I'm familiar with a few places.

Essex County. Newark. I know of Newark. Okay, it's near Newark. I knew you would know Newark because I'm near Newark. I don't live in Newark. Is that around there? No, not near Hoboken.

Oh, shit. I'm trying to think of more north. You ever heard of like, all right. So whatever. I can say like 30 minutes to like downtown Manhattan. Okay. I'm like, I'm not in Newark. I'm like 30, 20, 30 around it.

Like in a circle around it. Right. So I'm near. So, yeah. But remember 30 minutes like in North Jersey, New York,

that's like down the street. Right. So, I live in a place called Bloomfield now. You know the Spranos? Mm-hmm. Okay, so they're like

house where they grew up in that was my hometown. It was like, their house is behind my house. You grew up in like a couple of streets behind mafia land. Italian.

She saw a lot of shit when you were a child. I don't want to say this because I just found out recently, but I just found out kids I was going to high school with just got arrested

for being in the mafia. Really? Yeah. I was watching, actually watching like how the mob runs in New York. This whole like 15 pictures come up. I'm like. Really? No way.

I'm like yo, I know this guy and I'm pretty sure the dad was like an underboss. Dude, I didn't even know the mob was still around. I had no idea. I think they'll be there, be around forever. You think so? Maybe not forever. They just won't. I think it'll be forever.

Because at this point it's like, it's so hard to catch everything they're doing. Because they're so like, for example, like I had no idea these kids or even their dads were in the mafia and I'm going to school with. them. And I had no idea. I was going to ask it, was there were people aware that that kind of, like some mafia shit was going around?

In the area? Not, not really. I think Johnny's dad is a fucking, like, was there any of that talk? Not yet. There wasn't any of that talk. He uses a lot of hair gel. Yeah, not any like, not like talking to your like friends about like, yeah, he's dad is something, but like talk with your family, like

back then. Because, because, just goes on for generations. Right. Like if you're, if so, for example, if one of the kids that I went to school with is in it, his dad's probably in it, his uncle's probably in it, stuff like that. So like, you honestly never know.

Dude, weirdly enough, it was a few years ago, and this is from like a legitimate source. I, I, I can't say who it is. But they told me that one of the biggest reasons, and they could be fucking with me, but one of the biggest reasons that cheating and call a duty got so

bad. Don't say the mafia. is because of the mafia. I'm fucking dead. They told me that, that, like, a couple of the websites. It's probably Bose. Notice since Bose stopped competing,

cheating became a thing? You think Bose is in the mafia? But they said that, like, they said that, like, it was some sort of criminal group owned a lot of the, the websites that contributed

to cheating on video games. and so when when companies were trying to take them down that's when like all your fucking head right that's and i'm sitting here like dumb found because the guy who's telling me this should know drunk damon at the bar no no drunk drunk developer of the game at the bar yes i'm like i wouldn't put it past him and i'm i'm sitting there like what that's why like the mafia might be around forever is because they'll do shit like that They're not on social media, Instagram live. I mean, but the thing is back then, like,

they could kill people and just move on. Like, now you can't, it's so hard to just. So hard to kill and move on these things, man. It's not like the good old days. I think you could, I was about to say, you think you could kill someone? Yeah. You think you could kill someone and not tell anyone?

Say someone hurt your mom. Yeah. Absolutely. It depends. Like, if I feel bad about it, I would have to tell someone. But, like, exactly. Tell someone like, you like tie up my mom and like kidnapper. Yeah.

And then like. And I pulled through that bitch, spray that bitch up. Like, I'm not going to feel bad. I could, I, I tell Alexis. Alexis wouldn't tell anybody. Literally, I just feel like the four brothers. The four brothers pulling up. It's not very subtle way of doing it.

I feel like somebody's going to hear you. I don't know if I'm pretty fast. I feel like. I don't know if I can stab anyone. I could shoot someone. I don't know if I can. You could stabs crazy. Bro, it's all in like your, it's all mental.

His brain's fucked up, though. My brain's fucked. My brain is fucked. My brain is fucked. But like, again, someone kidnapped my mom. Someone broke in my house middle of the night. First thing I'm grabbing, 19-inch blade. Here we go.

There's a 19-inch blade in the, I don't know. In the drawer somewhere. The 19-inch drawer. Jeff's knife. So grew up in Jersey. What was it? Was it? Sports kid.

Sports kid. I played baseball. Just baseball. Baseball. Nick was just talking about baseball before you got here. What were you saying about baseball? What were you saying about baseball? I had my blog camera out.

Baseball's greatest moments. I had this book. I had my vlog camera out. I was like, Hitch, what do you think the worst sport is? Like athleticism, skill, like just everything. What do you think it is? He was like golf. And I pointed my vlog.

I think baseball is the worst sport to ever. takes snow and I was kind of talking shit about it but I was just like joking and shit for the fog So what I think about baseball I think hitting a baseball is the single hardest athletic feet you can do It is pretty hard I saw Hex strike out eight times

Some random fucking video With a 12 year old pitcher Underhanding fishing So I think that is But I do agree it can get pretty boring Like you can literally sit in the field And do nothing and like actually just

Yeah I wonder how many left fielders have literally played an entire game And a ball never came to him Baseball you're playing 162 games In like seven months So many games You play like four games across like five Like five days So many hot dogs

If you're in left field Because it's so much there's not You're not like fatigued Yeah besides the fucking pitcher Well that's why you don't pitch every day That's why in the World Series last year like the the Japanese dude Yamamoto he literally pitched a full game

came in, started pitching the next game and no one can hit him. Yeah. But the Japanese are just like... No, they're different. They're different. But what? Usually they're like robots.

He would only play like one game. Yeah, usually you play one game. You'll ice your arm for like a couple days. You'll like do like warmups for like your start on like say if you pitch Tuesday, you play Monday. Or Tuesday you play Friday. Yeah. Like the starting pitcher doesn't play.

He only plays like. once a week or twice a week. But yeah. Play baseball. Snowboarding. I played every, like, kind of every sport, but baseball was my main one where I, like, grew up, traveled, like, play, like, pretty high level. Yeah, I played it.

Would you stop playing? I play, like, right before high school. Because when I went to high school, I was small, like, really small. Uh-huh. And I went to a, like, a private Catholic school, and everyone was just, like, freshman year? Private Catholic school. Is this when you started rebelling and forming your personality?

Not even I was same person then And then Yeah no But when I was in freshman Like for example A kid in freshman was like 610 He was like 610

He was playing basketball He was my age And I'm like dude I'm literally like 5 feet tall Yeah Rushman 610 Yeah barely 100 pounds And so I seen everyone getting big And I'm like

Chalkin we need to go on the video games now It's crazy how that happens Like a few years ago Me Blake and George Went back to our old high school like Shostom was making a video. First time I'd been back to my high school, we walked in and there was a basketball game going on.

And I was like, oh shit. Like, so we, we like piqued our head into the gym. And I looked at all the high schoolers playing, you know. These are grown-ass men. I was like, what the? I'm looking at these fucking 17-year-olds. I'm like, what are you doing up there? Like, what the fuck are you doing up there?

Just disrespectful for people to be that tall. Yeah, grew up hated school. Like, I hated, like, school, school. Like I like socialize. Like I liked going to school to like chill with my friends. Okay. When I got towards like my senior junior year, I wasn't like doing great stuff. But are you a back talker?

A smart aleck. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't like a bad kid, but I didn't like when teachers talked like at me. Like I was like down like. That's what I was. Disrespect. Yeah, yeah. Like I get it.

You're like the teacher. But you don't got to yell at me like I'm fucking an asshole, even though I am. Yeah, I feel like that was that was kind of like me in school. I think I chill. Was there a moment when you chilled out? Because I feel like I would get in trouble in school. They would always say I'm a back talker or I'm a smart aleck. But it was never like some kids are just completely disrespectful.

Like they don't give a fuck. They'll get. But like I would get like in school suspension sometimes just for like back talking and saying dumb shit to the teacher. What was my fucking? point could have been good. I guess that's what you were doing. Oh, when did you chill out from that? Was it like when you started getting good at video games?

Because my mom started... My mom started taking the video games away from me when I got in trouble. So I was like, well, I can't fucking get in trouble anymore. No, I think I just stopped when, like, I just stopped caring. Just caring about... Like, by the time I was like 15, 16, I already told my mom like, yeah, I'm not going to go to college. Like, this is not...

This is not for me. Just 10th grade. Yeah, mom, I'm not. Like, all she told me was, like, make sure you graduate high school. Like, that was the only thing she told me. Because she knew, like, no matter what she told me, if she forced me, it was going to be even worse. Like, force me to, like, actually do good. Or, like, force me to go to college.

So your grades were just... What? Yeah, like, C. Like, at the end of my... To just pass. Yeah, yes. D plus. C plus.

I was in the same boat. And then math would be, like, a B plus, because that was my best, like, trigonometry, senior year. I was like... What the fuck? I didn't make it there. I was randomly good at trigonometry. That's my shit. Sin, tan, cosine, whatever that stuff's called.

I'm actually decent. Is that above algebra two? Yes. What does it go? Algebra two and then what? Prigonometry? Calculus. Yeah, that's every.

Pre-Calc. That's what I like the really smart kids were in. Like pre-calc. Like, no, I wasn't there. But I also wasn't in the like... Wait, pre-cal is before... Wait, trig is before calculus? I can't remember anymore.

Yeah. Oh, okay. Never mind. I had them backwards. Like Maddie, like, took, like, Calc in school. Yeah, for sure he did. He still uses it to this day. Yeah.

Look at all those wires. There's calculus in those wires. But yeah, and then, like, 60, so, like, junior year, senior year, that's what I, like, I don't really care anymore. So I stopped getting in trouble. Start hitting the pen. Start hitting the pen at 16. Start hitting the pen at, like, 16. Were you gaming at this point?

Yeah, yeah. No one knew in school. Heavy call of duty? Yeah. Like how far into gaming? Like were you like just, I'm siding on and I'm playing multiplayer? What year did you graduate again?

2020. COVID. COVID. My graduation was on the parking lot. So in 2018, 2018, 2019, your game and you're in high school.

Is it still, is it still considered nerdy? Oh yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, but it's a difference like, like,

like if I was like, for example, like Brandon Inders, simp, I'm going to school. I'm coming back when in land. I'm up 10 grand. Right.

I would have looked at it a bit differently, but I was not that good back then. So like... Oh, you're playing like dollar wagers. Not like dollar wagers, but like... You're playing like 50 cent wageers. XP matches. No, but, so my first $50 wage, actually, I mean, there's a video of it. I called my mom.

I was, my, I just won $50. That was IW, so that was 2014. Did you find that on YouTube? Oh, yeah, probably. Scrap $50 wager call mom. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can probably find that, but, yeah, no, I, um, I played for 50 my first time.

That was like IW. It's like 2014. So I was like $1,200 just like shooting after that. I don't even know if that's legal. I don't even know. I think you're breaking the rules. Yeah. So like my parents always say it.

I mean, you probably heard this too because you've been around it. But like I don't know the value of a dollar. Which is like, I still don't. I'm real by myself. Like I understand that because I really don't.

I grew up in it like I grew up just playing for $50, $100. It was just kind of like, oh, whatever. Like we lose this. We'll win the next one. We lose that. We'll win the next one. I didn't even win any of that I still know

Yeah so now I go Look at my phone $100 for class pass $70 gym membership Another $100 gym membership Car payment 700

I'm like What the fuck is I have no DoorDash DoorDash That's my bad That's my bad is DoorDash DoorDash too easy

I'm like oh my God Snacks and like 1 a.m. Is it every day? Yeah You live with I mean you know I'm not cooking You live with your girl? No

My girl is in Canada. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. She's Canadian. Does she, like, stay down here for, like, weeks at a time? No, no, no, no. Like, she works in Canada. She got a whole life.

She's got a whole family there. So you really are just down here, thugging by yourself. Thugging by myself. You in Friscoe? Yeah. I'm looking near Brandon. Do you cook? No.

He just said. I cooked tacos for the first time the other night. I can cook tacos. Okay. It's kind of fun. It's kind of fun. My stove. I don't get a good stove.

Like, I can't get the heat right. that sounds like I'm burning my taco meat and I gotta hurry up is it some bullshit to me is it a gas though not electric okay so like sometimes like if I if I put it on like level eight shit is going crazy like hot bubbling shit's splashing everywhere

if I put it on seven it like dies down it just sounds like it's cooking it doesn't even sound like it's cooking so I'm like what do I do yeah there is so like going back and forth I'm hitting eight I'm hitting seven I'm hitting eight I'm hitting seven by the time it's done it's just so fuck and I'm like, I'm just like, yeah.

Dooredash talk to? I'm done. I'm done. Just order something. This is why I don't cook. So is it, it's DoorDash every single meal. Yeah.

So wake up, what's the DoorDash order? So I go in, I'll get Starbucks, like, early because I don't like to eat before, like I play. Okay. Because like...

What do you get from Starbucks? Um, that strawberry, I say lemonade. Interesting. No strawberries. I wasn't, no strawberries? Yeah.

Because they put like strawberries in it And like sometimes when you sip it Like the strawberries get all mushy and shit And I'm like no I don't want that You like the strawberry flavor but not the strawberries Yeah but it didn't even taste like strawberry to be honest Does that have caffeine?

Like a little bit I don't drink caffeine either I'm not like a coffee drinker I mean like I'll drink it every here and there But I'm not like daily drinking coffee Like when I play on stage You'll never see me with like a Red Bull or I only drink water

No I only drink even at events Yeah I only drink I only drink whatever Interesting. Damn. I feel like you're probably one of a few. For somebody who I can't, whenever I was smoking weed, I couldn't drink water. I don't know what it was. Like I had to have like a diet soda or like a coffee or like a.

Anything but water? Yeah, water just, I feel like it was ruining my high. So for somebody who does smoke. I mean, when I'm smoking, I'm not just drinking water. I'll probably smoke and like have a little. snack meal Fair Life chocolate milk That's what I'm saying

That's like something I don't know I'm a big water drinker Like if you go on my fridge It's just water Yeah Well But like I'll order like a Gatoradey

Over here and there I'll do diet sodas And that's got to be so bad For you In a fifth of tequila Maybe Diet soda's got to be so bad for you Probably

Full fat Coke is insane though You ever have one Those are fucking Unbelievable fucking Frack You gotta get off the diet Go to full fat coax Yeah, the sugar's like what?

You drink and diet? Hmm? Why are you drinking diet? I got goals. Trying to get a six-pack. I don't think diet's going to... It's been like a 12-year process. I don't think diet's going to do anything about that.

No, it saves some calories. Like a regular soda is 140 calories. 50 grams of sugar, some insane shit. Like, if you actually look at it, it's like that much of sugar in a soda. Like, yeah, like a... Like in a can. And a can. Like, if people...

There's videos. You could probably find it. A fifth is a can. So if you took the actual sugar and just put it into the house, you're telling me that shit is that filled up with sugar. It's like, it's like, try to find a Google over it.

Holy shit. How many sugar cubes are in a canned soda? It's fucking insane. Sugar cubes? Well, they'll just stack sugar cubes next to a soda. And you're like, holy shit,

I'm drinking that much sugar. Yeah, so 45. Are you a regular soda drinker? Yeah. 39. Like, if I get like a sandwich or something, I'm getting a Coke. Do sugar cubes

Beside Yeah Whoa Like look at the can of soda on the left That's how much sugar Is in that That shit hits so crazy though It does

Yo look at that mountain dew That one is insane Yeah that right mountain dew That's a lot of sugar So when you're getting It's just nothing but water On stage nothing but water Because I feel like you drink too much sugar

No creteens No Cretines is good for the men's You don't got to be a bodybuilder. I'm telling you. I think every, and I was just going to tell this to optic, but I'll let you in on a secret.

Protein's very good for the mental as well. It just brings water to your brain and it helps your brain function better. It's almost like a neutropic. I have creatine. But it is, there is scientific research proving that. That creatine is good for the mental as well. I do take creatine.

That's actually the one thing I do. Like every morning I would walk out the door with a water and creotene. God damn right. Oh, yeah. I guess I need to start. All right. Second meal, DoorDash.

Yeah, DoorDash. So, Firehouse. Nothing in your stomach at all. You scrim. Yeah, no. Or I'll get like Starbucks. I'll get like a,

yo, they have a sourdough grill cheese. Really? Girl cheese? That shit's fire. Grill cheese in the morning? Grill cheese with a strawberry lemonade.

That would make my taste buds do a backflip. No, no. Or like, yeah, no, I'm actually pretty weird. I don't need to like combo shit. Like, I'm a weird person. Like, I can like...

You'll do like milk and soup. Sorry, not that insane, but like... Not that insane. But like, it doesn't need to perfectly go together to, like, me to eat it. Because I'm a very picky eater. So, like, if I like something, for example, you know who I'm like?

Like, Nate. Nate only eats what, like, certain things. Like, that's looking like me. Chicken tenders, hot dogs. Oh, my God. Chicken tenders. That's my shit right there. Tell me chicken.

Don't slap. Chicken tenders are amazing. Are you a Keynes guy? Cains? Sometimes. Joe, Vegas had canes. I got it. That was like the best canes ever got.

Like, I would order it. Shit was steaming when I opened it up. I think if I might have got canes there too. It's hits. Yeah, so second meal. I like Firehouse right here. Here's my thing about Firehouse. I saw them.

There's like an Italian sub you can get. And I saw them pull a hot bag. Sandwiches like laying down like this. don't pull a hot bag of meat and just slurp it out the fucking bag and onto the sandwich I haven't been back sense I'm sure some of their other shit's good though

The crazy thing is I'm fucking up that Italian sub He's like yeah The slurp is the good part Doritos but that shit on Doritos on the sandwich On the slurp meat Fresh out the bag See when he says it like that It makes it so much

Slurp meat That is a pause Still not The first one was not a point But yeah, that, I mean, it all depends. Like, we have, like, a, like, we get team meals, so, like. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, like, Craig, what, do you hear that? So, uh. Nate hooks it up. That's not me, man. Somebody else. Oh, okay. All right. Well, I have to talk to somebody.

Burning rice, maybe. They like burning rice. You ever heard of that? Yeah, I got. I like, uh, cowboy chicken. I like their chicken tenders. Okay. Cowboy chicken is pretty good.

That's the other thing about me. I don't slump. Like, when people, like, eat food and they get, like, really tired. Like I eat food, it feels like I just... Really? Yeah, I'm a tired person. I just feel like I'm ready to go. What's your meal of like,

I want to play the best cod of my life? This is what I'm gonna... Well, I guess you're not eating, huh? Yeah, like, so if I play first match on land, like say it's like 1 p.m. first matches, like I won't eat until after first match. Say your last match. Last match I'm eating.

What are you gonna eat? I'll try to get like a sandwich. Or chicken tenders? Yeah, if chicken tenders are there, I'll take that. They're available. What kind of sandwich? I like Italians. Italian sub

Yeah, turkey provolone Slurped out the Package Yeah, he loves His slurped out meat shit They slurped out Italians Yeah Again, I'm picky

So I got like turkey Provolone, little mustard Okay Now last but not least Scrims are done This is about Lisa Bush I just saw his face No

Scrims are done What's your last door dash meal So when I go home Yeah Go home Sit at your set up I love in and out Fucking

Dark Web murder Documentaries I'm getting loaded on your I love I love in and out. You can door dash that? No.

So like, I mean, this is like kind of not. I do go to in and out like, no bullshit, like four or five times. You'd be driving there? Yeah.

Man. Rip a J. Go there at like 1 a.m. So you just, you just leave here, hit it and out, then go home. But like I'm closer to where I live.

Like, it's five minutes like to where I live. Right. So like I'm pulling through the drive-thru brain dead. Double, let me get it. Let me get the double, double. What is it?

Extra sauce. And it out does it. In and out is God, like. This is the happiest I've seen you talk about something on the flak. My thing is food. You make sure. I watch a lot of YouTube food stuff. I just, I like knowing, I don't know if it's weird, but I like knowing what people eat.

Like if I see someone, like if you watch muckbangs? No, I hate that. You hate people eating? Yo, noble shit. Watching people eat makes me hunger. But do you watch those? I just can't stand a sloppy. Fuck eating that shit.

No, but if I'm like laying in bed at night and someone comes up eating some crazy shit and they're like housing it, I'm like, dude, that could literally be dog shit and if they ate it like that, it would probably be insane. Yeah. But I won't watch actual muck bangs

where their mic is fucking right here on their left. I'm watching like a 30 second TikTok. Yeah. Or in L.A. trying fucking Bob's burgers and I'm trying to watch it. Or it'll be like a trying Dallas, Texas best barbecue. Like, I'll watch videos like that.

What's that? Matt, you know that one Muckbang YouTuber? He's got like long hair. Really, I think he's like jacked. But like every once in a while he'll just sit down and he'll go, he'll be like eating the whole Wendy's menu. Yeah, I see a lot of. And I'm like, what? Dude, I would be fucked.

The whole Wendy's menu? I'm done. I'd be done for six hours. I'd said I do get like turnt from eating. but a big, large, like, Wendy's McDonald's. I'm done. Me and Formal did that with Taco Bell. The whole Taco Bell menu?

We each got the whole menu. Like, we got the whole menu times, too, and then we each tried to see if we could finish it. Neither of us is a video? This is a, yeah, it's on my channel somewhere from, like, Scuff House. I was like, you know, just did this for fun? Yeah. I like watching it for views.

You know, Matt Stoney? Mm-hmm. I like watching him. Yeah, I like watching him. I like professional. I watch a lot of professional. He's housing food. He's eating a Big Mac in a nine seconds.

It'll be like eight bags. Every box of Kellogg's cereal. And he'll just put it all in a big ball. Total calories 24,9. At a point, I just feel like they don't even like chew. They're just like, their throat muscles are just insane. It's slurping down there.

Like professional hot dog? Like, ugh. What do you all think about the Joey Chestnut, Usain Bolt? competition gotta be Joey Chestnut No wait what is it Who if you sit down I think it's

You eat five hot dogs And then Or maybe it was one hot dog Whatever You eat a certain amount of hot dogs And then you run A hundred K Sprint

Joey Chestnut Will eat five hot dogs 100K In No not 100K What the fuck A hundred yard dash Seven seconds

Yeah Same ball would be eating Five hot dogs For like a minute two minutes two minutes so like

I forgot what the actual like down five hot dogs and seven seconds is insane let me look up the actual thing he is dunking

that whole thing in the water just look up Joey chestnut eating a hot dog Joey chestnut can consume a single hot dog

in roughly two to five seconds oh yeah so it's two seconds he is literally placing the shit in his stuff just one hot dog oh so it's one hot dog

and a hundred meter sprint how much 100 meter sprint That's like one side of the track. I think that's the long side of the track. Dude, I would be fucked if I sprinted that. My stamina is destroyed. You said you were fast as a kid.

No, no, I'm still fast. You think you're faster than hitch. Yes. You're faster than me. Yeah. Faster. Well, if you're faster than me, you're faster than him. I'm the fastest person probably in the gaming scene.

That is an insane claim. What makes you think that? It's just insane to say. All right. What about the call of duty, HALA, call of duty and HALO. You're not,

I don't even think you break up there. Top 20. I don't even think you break top 20. Yeah, of the Halo and the cod scene. Who else is fast? Who else do you think is fast? Who else claims Tush thinks he's fast?

Well, Tush is for sure faster than you. No. I think I'm fast. I think I'm fast. Like I would, I like to say. But I also think I'm good at basketball.

But if you gave, but I haven't really, I've touched a basketball four times. in 20 years. All right, then I wouldn't say you're good at basketball. You can't be good, though.

I'm horrible at basketball now, but once upon a time I was good. And once upon a time, I was really fast. And I still think I got it. I'm pretty fast. Who else might be fast? In the Cod scene.

Let's go down the teams. Shotsie, nah, dashy-y-no. I think of like, like, don't. I think he just can do endurance. That's what I think, too. I would smoke it. I've seen him put up some numbers.

I would smoke it. Put like a 50-yard sprint. You think you got him? Fuck yeah. I think, you know, I think A.G. thinks he's fast. Yeah, he probably thinks he's fast. Bread? Yeah, he probably thinks he's fast.

I'm definitely fast in A.G. Oh, you know what I'm saying? He definitely thinks he's like Sib. I can see Sib being fast. It's just a monster. I can just tell you. I'm pretty sure he's good at basketball. He looked pretty athletic, so.

Speaking of Sib, have we, we haven't talked about the, you've seen the whole spitting? I did see that. Should we? I don't know. that we should probably ignore it i don't really know what happened i don't know what i wanted to get your opinion i heard what you heard but the guy that got spit on has like come out on twitter basically everyone's saying like shut the fuck up bitch that's the repercussions you get when you talk shit to a

motherfucker i think there's a so what i heard is that that guy was talking to his family he said he wasn't because i read his tweets he said he just he was calling him a bitch like go home like have a fun ride, like shit like that. Like pussy, go home, you fucking bitch, you fucking, like that kind of shit, though. First of all, people that do that, I don't know if I've ever met a person in my life that would do that. Like, pay money to go somewhere and then watch a team walk off and be like,

yeah, go home. I just couldn't even do that. Go home now, bitch. How do you like hate someone like that? Like, I understand, I understand, I even understand heckling like during the game. Like, I understand that. Like, people that go to baseball games and they'll hecker like the, the guy. It's like more of a banter like thing

I think it's different when you like Are actually from where you're like Supporting like if you're going there I'm not saying it's right But like say I live in New York And I go to a New York like game And other team comes off like If you're yelling at that person

Like a Yankees Red Sox game Yeah I think it's more acceptable Because like it's a big rivalry but Yeah I think you can say some shit But if if Yankees Red Sox like If they won the World Series You know

at the Yankee Stadium, I don't think you're, I don't think you're putting all your energy into now, now the Red Sox lose so you trash those guys instead of celebrating the Yankees win. You know what I mean? Like, you're booing the guys that are walking off. They just had their heart fucking broken.

They lost, you know, fucking Grand Slam last, the ninth inning or whatever. 50 plus mill on their partner. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're fucking. Actually, never mind.

Trash them. Fucking loser. I mean, I don't really care. It's whatever to me. I like talking shit back to them. That's the phone. part. You get into it with fans?

Oh yeah. Like when you're walking back in and stuff? Right before I walk out, right before I walk back in, all people fat messes. Oh, man, I wonder how many people have caught that. Like, yo, scrap. Damn. And you turn, you're like, shut the fuck up. Oh.

Sloppy fucking mess. Have you ever felt like you were about to, like, this guy might fucking swing on me? No. I don't think anyone was going to swing. but I thought I'm fucking up once someone swings

this shit's about to be chaos though I'm jumping over the barrier even if I'm getting my ass beat I'm jumping over the barrier you've got to do

it just for your pride I'm just jumping bro we're just throwing I'll pick it up chairs I will say it's the WWW I wonder what would happen if something happened

to an optic player say like Merk just got hit with a yeah somebody in a phase I like imagine when we were sitting there

watching I was imagining that happening I was like what if like I was turt when shots you

just got hit with a someone just closed lined him yeah someone just closed lined him over the barrier or something like shots he's like in his spade they starts like are we jumping down from those stands and like I think it depends on the

depends what it is I don't think I don't think the teammates are doing shit though I don't think Brandon Merck or or what's it called or Kyler are jumping over the fence if no no no and got closed line I don't think they are I think the I think he's talking about

like the fans jumping them oh yeah the fans for sure would That would be terrible. Don't do that. Like, if I got closed line, I'm thinking like... If Matt... Imagine somebody hit... No, he's not...

He's probably, like, in the suite somewhere. Yeah. Imagine somebody punched Gattaga in France. Oh, my God. They would be dead. They'd be dead. They'd be dead. Did you hate Paris?

Did I hate Paris? Like the city? Yeah, I think it was great. See, I have, like, people... People I know in... real life say they've loved visiting Paris but then every gamer that went to Paris says they fucking

you know people in real life that love Paris yes the Eiffel Tower sick I thought it was sick I was like whoa it was that hot it was that hot for sure it was that hot you were there or no I wasn't there no pro 100 it was like 100 it's like not heat here with no AC inside

so imagine you came in here and it was like 95 degrees I don't understand that while there's no AC it's too expensive like are we just completely spoiled yeah yeah no we are I will say if we're talking about rage and we're talking about

you know the event and stuff like that not to bring up bad memories for you but you had the gnarliest controller spike I've ever seen in my life being there yeah we were we were down so we were we were doing like social media stuff

and we were like had to be somewhere and you guys just lost and we're like damn so we go down the elevator and we're walking and I hear a little bit of commotion I look I look left I forgot who walked out first but I saw and you know we we were respectful I think we saw I think we saw Abe and we saw Abe and we saw we look down you know be respectful and then not make eye contact and then I hear something explode and I look to my left and this the hallway like the walk hallway I just see I'm I might be over exaggerating at this point because I've played it over it's just plastic It's just

The trigger's flying off I was like holy shit I looked at Nick and I was like Damn it was great At that point Fing the controller about witnessing That controller slam Oh yeah I was like I was like I was like bro

It's the best controller Is the best controller spike I've ever seen The one thing I really remember is like I'm slamming it And all I hear is You cry baby bitch I just walk out from someone like Yeah like in the crowd because they Because that hallway was like

If the crowd just turned around and look down that hallway, you can see everything. Yeah. Fuck it, I was not waiting, though. I just need to get right behind that curtain, and here it goes. Fuck that. I'm glad you waited. Because the craziest one I've seen before that was Slasher.

And Slashor didn't wait. He did it on stage. I've smashed one on stage, too. Really? Like Toronto, Toronto, you know how like the stage? There was like two screens and there was a middle screen? Right behind the middle screen. I just slammed that shit out on the middle screen.

They didn't like that. They didn't like that. Yeah. Let's wait. Do you pick up the controller? after you slam it. So you know, who knows? No, no, we actually have that controller.

Someone else picked it up. Yeah, but I don't care. I didn't pick that up. Glue it back together. Respectly, that shit could have bounced off someone's head and I would just walk past them. Just a piece of plastic. Just the trigger right in their forehead.

What's your mindset? Obviously, it's fucking rage. But like, when you spike it, are you like, is it just a I don't give a fuck moment? I don't care who sees this. I don't care. Or like afterwards, are you like, fuck, I shouldn't have done that? Or is it, I just got knocked out of champs.

I know we're like a top caliber team. We fucking blew it. Like, you just don't give it. Well, one, yeah. One, I don't really give a fuck. Who sees what? The thing is, I can't break anything else. Yeah.

Like, I can't break the computer. Can't break the monitor. You're going to punch the wall. Yeah, like, you can't break your hand. Yeah, exactly. So, like, the controller is the easiest thing that I could just throw and I can get a new and instantly. How much fucking rage is building?

Oh my God. That one, that's a lot. When does the rage start? Because we're, let's start with the series. What was the series that you lost? So we lost the Falcons, whatever, Thursday. Friday we play Minnesota. I'm getting trick-shot. Oh, this is when the PC's coming to play too.

Yeah, and like I just can't finish a kill. That's all it was. I just couldn't finish. Like, does it just feel hard? It just feels impossible, like, to get a kill. Like, again, I'm not saying that's the reason we lost, but if I could get maybe 10 or. 20% more kills, it would have been a way

different game. And it's just like, after fourth map, I'm just like, all right, man, I'm going to walk on stage, fresh mind, like new PC, let's play. And then when I get told no, I'm like, oh, fuck, here we go. Oh, they said no new PC. They said it's fine. It's like, all right, I guess it's fine.

Like, I'm just going to sit down and play, I guess. And I just can't get a kill still. So, like, I don't know what it is. Like, that, like, I'm not raging in the game. because like we're still playing. I need to lock in and like try to just play even if shit's going wrong

but when you lose and there's literally like nothing to do and then I feel like I got fucked over then I'm just like holy fuck. Yeah it's like an additional rate just not a rage like we just lost I'm not raging at like my team I'm not raging at like obviously I'm upset

with like how we played but I'm more just raged at the whole situation of just like what's the because we talked to Ann Dash yesterday and they like kind of tried explaining the feeling of like when you know

you're on a shit PC? What, what's your POV of like, like, how do you know something's off? Like, what is the,

what is the feeling? Well, there's like a couple things. The fucking bullets. Yeah, there's like a couple of things. So, for example,

like I heard, like Kyler had a issue on stage. Like, it just, like, felt like he's, like, actually lagging, like, lagging, lagging.

There's either that where, like, you definitely just need a new PC because you're just lagging. Or, like, I've spent it with brand. It just feels like

the game's heavy. Like, the game just, like, like, bro, I play the game every day. I'm not saying I'm going to be perfect, but when I can't do like a simple slide cancel and it feels like every time I go to slide, I crouch. Or like every time I go to like just do something, it just feels clunky. Like, that's just the best way to explain it.

It just feels like everyone I'm shooting at is 300 HP, 200 HP. It just feels like I have to do so much more to just get a simple kill instead of killing one, snapping on the next guy. Like there's none of that. It's like I have to focus so hard on one kill, then worry about someone else. And when you're just not getting like those simple kills, it just, it just, instead of thinking, like, what's the right play? How do I make the game easier?

It's more of like, okay, I need to get this kill first, simple this down, then do that. And there's just no flow state. Do you have a series like the last two years where you felt like you had like a God PC? A God PC? Or do you only remember the bad ones? Probably just like,

I really only remember, like the bad ones are really easier to remember. But I mean, I will say like last year, again, I don't really know either if it's the PCs, if it's the game. game, if it's the controller, if it's the SSDs. I don't know. That's the reality of it is I don't really know, but I just know something's all.

Something's up. Last year felt great. Like last year you got on every single event. And unless the PC was like super fucked. Right. The game felt consistent. Like that's honestly all I asked for in COD is just for it to feel consistent every day.

Is I get on because right now, if you get on and your game feels insane, you're probably ripping. You're probably getting insane two pieces, three pieces. and then you're winning maps and it's like wow, we played really good today or another day you show up and it's holy God we can't get a kill and this is going to be war all day.

Yeah. And I wish it just felt consistent every day. I wish I was getting shit on every day so I knew it was just... And you're saying just in scrimms it feels like this. Yeah, it's just the game. Scrims, some days, matches, whatever though. What do you do when it's, uh,

I guess like, what did they call the weekend matches? Is it league matches? I'm thinking of like Halo and shit. if you have a say you scrim league match friday say you're scriming on a thursday and you're like something wrong with this pc feels like shit do you do anything about it like well we only have a certain amount of PCs right so i mean we've switched some throughout the year like the coaches whatever they'll they'll switch and say like hey just use this one and sometimes like again i don't really know if it's the pc right like it could just like you could be playing the game one day feels like

shit, you come in the next day, maybe the PC took a nap for fucking six hours and it's back. And it's like, so. Sometimes it'll be the same PC. This felt like fucking shit. You get on the next day and it's like, wait, this isn't. But it's also like, it's also like this yesterday. Cod in general is just like, it's like a game. Cod is like a game.

It's like MonoWher 19 is down here. Like that was when it started. And then it's just been like band-aids on top of it for seven years. So somewhere in there is like this weird molded together game that's so much. shit could be wrong. And then on top of that, you got the servers, and then you got the internet connection, and all the different, all the different shit.

Yeah. Like, honestly, I don't know why. Or I do know why. It's not the PCs or anything. Like, they took out, like, or in Black Ops 2, it was called, like, what was it called? System Link. System Link, but that's what it's going.

Yeah, or Local Play. Yeah, or Local Play, that's what it was, right? They don't even have that anymore. Yeah. There's no local play. There's no, like, connecting to your, friend just on the same internet to ethernet no no hell no there's no why does that not exist i don't i don't understand why that doesn't exist does it exist in counterstrike and vall and shit

counter strike it's an offline thing i don't understand again this might sound like whatever the word is don't remember but why can't we just have an own thing for us like for the league for the call of duty league the league has land right yeah like like why can't just like the casual play is casual play do whatever you want like put the insane guns in put the everything but we should just be playing completely different. Like game? Yeah, like game, I feel like. Yeah.

Like, there should be an option that you only see at tournaments. Because right now we're playing a casual game. Land. Yeah, we're playing a casual game trying to make you competitive instead of just playing a competitive game. Like, Counterstrike is a complete opposite. Counterstrike is a competitive game that you can play casually. Right.

God is not that. Cod is a complete opposite. Like, we are trying to make a very casual game as competitive as possible, and it's very hard. Yeah. That's reality. It's very hard. And we're the only,

we're the only ESPort that does it. Yeah. Every other ESPort that's popping, even the esports that aren't popping. Like, like, like,

besides, like, PubG had, like, a little thing. Like, every other game, like, it's built to be competitive. Yeah.

And I think, you know, I think the pros have got a lot of shit. I'm not going to say, like, sit here and act, like, oh, I don't,

I care that much, but, for example, like, I'm very vocal on about, like, GA,

stuff like that. but that's just because I actually care that much about just like making a good game that like people like watching people like playing because right now I feel like it might be pretty fun to watch it's not that fun to play like and I'm trying to find like I agree it should definitely be more towards like the entertainment side people watching people for the fans I agree with that I'm not I'm not delusional but like I also started playing cod for a reason like I didn't just play cod just to like sit here and twit on my thumbs like I I fell in love with like the process of like getting better as a team, like, feeling like the map is, like, played strategically. And right now,

I don't feel that. Like, right now, I just feel like it's just bang the hill. If you get the kills, you get the kills, and you're doing good. And if not, we're probably in a bad spot and we got to do it again. And, like, I just feel like there's no, I do really, like, MW3, right? That was the last game that I felt like you can, you know, like actually outplay someone, like outplay, like, you're hiding, you run into an alley, you get away. Like, right now, it's like, I have to chow this guy or he's just going to run and shoot me in my back. Like there's no finesse factor And the finesse factor right now is just like

That extra one second You can just play your life for one extra second Hide behind like a little sliver of a wall That's the skill gap right now Not playing the game in a strategic way Exactly I get that So that's what I kind of miss in Cod

NW3 was that game was so good So fun That game is so good Maps are a big thing we need though I'm telling you maps I don't care about the gun play anything We need good maps Yeah I know I agree with it

Because right now there's 42 maps in the game and all them are all the maras then they bring back how many of the maps in competitive play are old maps that they just brought up almost all of them it's fucking nice

hossie bed at it yeah it's a hossie gridlock raid uh what are the other scar's not new

and are they like the good maps the good maps I don't I mean I don't know I don't play like of this game yeah like the maps that they brought back or is there any brand new

good maps So like Hossie, I really don't like Hossie that much. I don't know. I just played different on this game. It just plays way faster. Like last year is boots on ground. So like the timings are a bit different. Now it's like I can jump up top off is.

I can get in certain ways that you couldn't do last year. But like Den. I think Den's a good new maps that they brought in. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I think it's one of the better maps. But yeah, honestly, all the old maps are probably the better maps. And I've said this Are you all playing frequency at EWC? I don't know yet

We're still waiting for that answer Okay Are you all screaming it? Oh, sure And How does it play? I think it's very similar To Black House 4

It's with these new guns It's pretty hard to break Some of the hills To spawns are a bit iffy But we're comparing it to Colossus Like it's got to be better than like some of these maps Yeah, that's true And are y'all playing

Overload on it? No Just HP I mean just HP We haven't a scrimmed search on it. Comes in for search, it does. I don't think it would be bad if it did. But, uh...

I like that map. I can't believe they put it in nine months into the game cycle, but... I like that, man. I know it's never going to happen because of the different titles we talked about before, but I just think we should always just play, like, older maps and just substitute them in, like, every stage and just fuck the new maps. That's what I... Dude, I've been saying that for, like, five years. The only good new maps that came in are, if you remember, obviously three, is six star and Rio.

do remember that one Okay And like Don't remember Ria Rio Is like the one It was like the Brazilian looking map

That like Matt Google them real quick Yeah Google Rio real quick It's got like that It's got like the escalators Going up to like the square Yeah In the middle

And there's like a catwalk But they kind of just Yeah Rio right Yeah And make a new map You know this map I don't even know if you play At this point

This is it came in later In the late Like Go down You gotta see like mid map You gotta see like mid map You gotta see like mid map Click that one

Bottom right. Yeah, all right, so the bomb is not, like, there's a garage on the right, and then the bomb is on the other side. There's a P2, see where that deep cop car is? Okay, so yeah, that's Rio. These maps, when they came in, I was like, oh, my God, this is actually a map. We're actually, like, playing the game here. We're good.

And, like, I'm getting on every day having fun, like, scrimming. And, like, the maps now, it's like, I don't even play this game outside of scrimms because I'm just so bored of it. Like, it's so boring. Didn't these maps come in late in the season? Yeah. It's just like January 17th

So that's middle of the season January 17th And season's over Rio 6 star Vista came in late Do you get excited for a new cod Or is it just like Well who gives a fuck I'm just gonna try to be as good as possible

I mean like this the little kid in you So over the years Like a new cod can't wait So over the years it's definitely like Dwindled down I would say Like you definitely aren't like Santa's disappointed Yeah

as excited but there's always still that little thing where like maybe maybe that like this will be a fun game again because there is hope like MW3 is what two years ago there's still hope that they can make decent games Yeah true

It's not like every game that has came out for seven years now Has been like literally unplayable Yeah I do I do agree with you And people have roast me Because I said it like five years ago is when I decided Like this is how I feel that like every call of duty sure if they want to attempt to make new maps sure

but how many maps have been in call of duty you gotta think cod cod came out in 2005 really cod too many maps gotta be like 500 it's gotta be it's more than any other game ever more than any other game ever by far dude this game has 40 maps in it

black half seven has 40 maps like how many maps total from every cod every shooter game ever has their map yeah like there's dust two has been in the game for 20 years fucking they're still playing uh inferno's been is inferno's old right they're still playing haven in in valorant every time halo comes back i guarantee you fucking coliseum or sanctuary is going to be a fucking or or some sort of uh what's the purple midship yeah some sort of like midship ass map like it is not a bad thing but for some reason Every year when Call of Duty comes out, they're like, wow, we're playing Raid again.

I'm like, fucking Raid is, that's because, like, at least there is something. Yeah, there's about 500 to 600 unique maps. About 600 maps. And I bet you that doesn't even include, like, the face-off maps or the Ground War maps. Well, and mobile, there's well over a thousand playable maps in a re-oh. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Including remakes, variants, gunfight, ground war, war maps, a thousand.

A thousand maps. Like, there's too many. Yeah. There's too many. Let's pick 40 Let's pick 20 maps for Trey Arc Let's pick 20 maps for Infinity Ward And those are the maps

Let's play them every year If you want to add in every year Every year same map Just need Cod There's 20 maps So this is the thing right Say like we're on a Treyarch I don't think Sledgehammer want their maps

We can play at a Treyark Exactly But say like the next year Sledgehammer Let's play Sledgehammer maps for that year Then if Treyarch's the next year We play Treyarch maps for that year And if we want to Let's do it like every other title does

where if we want to try one new map, we try one new map. Let's not try seven new maps and then realize they're all ass so we bring in the frequency. I think that'd be boring though. As a spectator, watching the same old maps.

But they do it in every other e-sport. But you wouldn't say the maps are like kind of boring now? It's boring just regardless. I mean, but bro, I will say the maps right now, like I think the reason it's so boring is the maps.

Like right now you're watching you're just like, oh my God, they're just banging. M.2 over and over and over and over again. Switch the disc guy's screen. He's going in, banging it out. Exactly. Again, before it was like, okay, you have to watch the mini map to see the strategy that's

like unfolding before they break the hill. Because right now you watch the mini map, there's four O's here and there's fouros here just fighting each other in the whole lot. Instead of like someone pinching or like people fighting while a pinch has happened. There's none of that. Yeah. But I agree. I do agree.

Just take maps from old and just play the best maps. Yeah, dude. I mean, imagine how... incredible. I think Blackop Six with a great map pool would have been an unbelievable game.

Yeah, it would have been like probably the best blackups we've had since four. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, dude, I loved last year. I thought last year the gunplay, the movement,

the how the game felt was like, I haven't felt that in years. Yeah. Years. And if you, if you just go into that game and just fucking bring, bring over the best

blackups two, three, four maps. Like, that game is godlike. I'll play maps from 20 years ago. Exactly. And you're saying, like, you'll get bored. I mean, the thing is, if we, for example, say, like, we start with six maps for

stage one, by stage three, we could, like, substitute three maps out. And, like, so, like, we're watching a whole new game in stage three. That's what I agree. Like, we wouldn't have to play the same maps for the whole year. Yeah. The map pool of 20 maps. And for each season, you know, or whatever, split, you play. maps, then you rotate

three or four maps out, and then you can play all 20 maps, because you know at the end of the day, it would take, it would be difficult to make Haseanda or frequency or Arsenal hard to play. Like, those maps are so balanced, they should be good for every game time.

Arsenal should be in this game. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Because I will say freak right now, there's a lot of subs. Like, it's like, it's eight subs. Oh, yeah, it does seem close quarters. But that's also part of the game. 100%. That's the game. Because the MPC is just so good. good. Exactly. I'm not saying that's a map issue. I'm saying that's more of like a game gun issue.

Yeah. But Arsenal would be snipers would be good. A.Rs would be good. Subs will be good. I just, I don't know. There's got to be some reason why they didn't bring it. Nah, this next guy going to go crazy, though. I'm not saying that next scott's been used to. Shout out T-Dog. Yeah, we'll see. It's going to be back, man. We'll see. I'm excited, though. I'm excited because I don't really like this game, so I'm excited. Well, you got EWC. It's fucking... Who do you guys play first? Boston. And it's just...

You get... The fuck's the term I'm trying to say. Luser goes home. No. No. You play pool matches. It's like pool. Oh, okay. So if we beat Boston, Optic beats...

No idea. Team War. Team War. It's an amateur team. If they beat Team War, we beat Boston, we play each other to qualify. Okay. And if one of us loses that, whoever loses that, we'll play another. Oh, is Swiss?

Yeah, we'll play another match against, so it's not four pools of four, it's two pools of eight, but it's kind of like it's four pools of four. You just play like certain groups. It's like a Swiss bracket. Yeah, exactly, like Swiss. So, yeah, that'll be that. And then, and then whoever qualifies, then you get to that single elimination. Yep, and then you're in the bracket, best of seven tournament. Yep.

Okay. EWC coming up in two, three weeks. No, next week. That's next week? next weekend we play one we play wednesday wait you play today's you're going to paris you play next weekend what the fuck

i leave sunday that's where i google it is it something else oh shit where's it out again paris back to paris or it's like fuck it i don't give a fuck where the fuck we're playing at i mean that is fuck champs now that is the reality i don't really give a fuck we're playing do i like paris not really but um

it's gotta be better than going back to the desert i feel like that flight is crazy Saudi's far. Saudi? Saudi is far. How long was that flight? It's seven, 16 hours?

17 hours? It's like 16 and a half hours? Would a little stop in between or no? Yeah. So we fly to like Doha, Qatar, and then we go to Saudi. Take me to Paris.

Yeah, I'll go Paris. All right, EWC in a week, man. We wish you luck. Thanks, no more controller slams.

Maybe. No more shit PCs. I'm going to pray on that for you. I just want to, listen, this next event, I just want fair gameplay. Isn't that what we all want?

That's exactly what I want. That's all scrap ass for. But thanks so much for joining the fly cast, man. We've been trying to get you in here for a while. So thanks for joining. That's going to do it, man. Thank you all so much for watching. Matt, Greg.

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