The Flycast - The Best Worst Week of Our Lives | The Flycast Ep. 124

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:14 Welcome back to another episode of the Flycatch. Episode 124, man. We're getting up there. We're really getting up there. I mean, we're a legit podcast. We are switching it up today. We got headphones. And we got EMC behind the camera.
Starting point is 00:00:32 And we got EMC. He's got a headphones. He's got a mic. He's got a mic. Check one, two, Matt. Check one, two. Oh, my God. It's beautiful voice. It feels like a radio show now.
Starting point is 00:00:43 I kind of like it. I kind of do. I kind of fuck with it. The reason we're wearing headphones today is because the entire Cod team is doing a game chat right beside us. Yes. And me and Hitch, if you're a frequent listener of the flycast, we often start fucking up when we hear people talking in the background. Yes. We're really bad about it.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yeah, I don't know what it is. Usually we're obviously not wearing headphones. So when we're sitting here, the room is so quiet. So if there's like a lot of times it's like page and a cod player like they're talking about something and it just throws off the whole fucking thing. Throws the vibes off. So we knew with them doing the, what is it called? Game chat?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Game chat, yeah. The game chat over there. I don't know who planned this. Who set up the schedules here. But that is the reason we're switching it up and we have headphones on today. But is this the new thing? Is this the new wave? It might.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Are we headphones potter? It might have to be. Is it hard to set up? I can't tell. Matt? No, it's the same as around the bar. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I actually fucking just chirping in every now. We can get his opinions on the elections. Yeah. Matt. Well, you, oh, Roder's talking to rot. Dude, Roder. What a boss, God. Matt's working here.
Starting point is 00:02:01 He's our third host, man. This genuinely feels like a radio show. He flicked us off. Well, anyways, I guess it's been a little bit. We can start from the beginning. but before all that I would like to announce me and Hitch our teammates
Starting point is 00:02:17 for the 50K Pro Sim today so you guys you guys will be hearing this well it's today so the in the pod's not going to come out today so right now expectations go first place BTAH first place BTAH
Starting point is 00:02:32 and you guys will find well you'll see we'll find out today I didn't realize you got fourth in the last one like it's not like y'all y'all didn't do bad in the last one I don't remember shit about the last one. All I remember is Mutex wanting to run sniper. He got two kills one map and said, all right, someone else run the sniper.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Yeah. Because I was trying to convince him like, you know, maybe I should run snipe. Like I feel like it's maybe. And this was what I was kind of saying in our team chat as well. Because if you guys don't know, the pro sim tourney that hitch is throwing on icons gg.com. It's just, yeah. icons G. The pros somehow it works is Hitch basically starts making up classes, two ARs, two SMGs, and a sniper.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It's a 5E5. So last time I remember telling Mutex, like, I'm pretty decent at sniping. Like, I feel like it will probably be the most, not necessarily most useless, but like maybe the least effective. So it's like, I'd rather have Mutex out there with a sub or a AR in their fucking face besides instead of me. But he wanted to run it. And that didn't go. Like I had more killed. I had like six or seven.
Starting point is 00:03:42 He had two. He was like, all right, man. Someone else. I'm like, all right, man. And I can't remember if I ran it or someone else ran it. But that's what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Let's talk strategy here. What do you want to run today? Because this is sort of what I was saying in the DMs, but I didn't really like elaborate. Yeah. I think the last class. I'm the worst player on the team. I think the last classes that we're,
Starting point is 00:04:01 because they're going to pick the two S. They're going to pick the two SMGs and the. It's me, Hitch Havoc, blast in an envoy that's a fucking crazy squad it's a crazy squad uh yeah
Starting point is 00:04:15 so uh I mean I don't want to harp on it too much because by the time everyone's listening to this it's already over but but I mean I think that there's going to be two guns between you and I and I think it's going to be the AK and the snipe because I think they're going to want
Starting point is 00:04:31 to run the others so I mean we can go back and forth with them if you want I think I think I know like some of the pre-fires and like some of the angles. I think because I've been playing wagers. Yeah. So I think I might be better suited for the snipe. As long as I don't, I heard envoy asking like, what's the AK like though?
Starting point is 00:04:51 And I'm like, don't stick me on a fucking stuff. I do not. Like with the AR, like I'm confident I can play it a little slow. Get a not necessarily a pick here and there. But like just, you know, gun some people. Like catch them coming around a corner. or something. But with a sub,
Starting point is 00:05:07 if I gotta, because I don't fucking, I hardly even played on the race to prestige, let alone, like, knowing where, I don't know where the bomb sites are.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I've watched a tiny amount, but I'm just not prepped with the sub, and I feel like an AR is kind of like, almost like six-sense. Like, it's kind of like common, not common sense, but like,
Starting point is 00:05:30 you can kind of trust your gut with it. You know where they kind of come around corners, even just from playing pubs. So I was like with the AR, I could probably get some kills in which I don't really give a fuck about like looking good or trying to do decent. So I mean, whatever, y'all, we could try you snipe first and then I could try or I mean, whatever, it doesn't really. Might not matter. Either way. I mean, either way it should be fun.
Starting point is 00:05:56 We got some, we're playing against some good fucking people. There are some good teams in this tournament. I mean. Yeah, by the time we're talking about this year, it's already going to be over. but there's some I looked at it like pro sim all that's like the 5E5 fun one and I think I played it last year and I think I actually did pretty good I think I did better in that than like the GGCS shit yeah even though we won that but it's like I'm looking at the names I'm playing against and I'm just like what do fuck well the pro the pro the all the pros that said yes to this was the entire LAT squad and the entire phase squad so like Clayster selium simpa bees karma, draza, Aiden, formal, ghosty. Hesoka.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Hesoka. Even like Blake, like, everyone's better than me. It's just me, Nicari. Well, you just got to be better than the captains. Like, you have to be better than, you have to perform better than your counterpart. I mean, that's who I, like,
Starting point is 00:06:54 I think I can do that. Yeah. Yeah. Very much so. Like, especially if I'm playing good, I think I'm, I mean, I don't know. It doesn't, um, what's his name? Mountain.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Stone Mountain? Doesn't he kind of is in the S and D. E? Or no, no, no. Maybe I'm thinking to someone else. No, yeah, you might be thinking of marksman. But no, I think I think I'm the best captain, maybe. Or Adapt might be decent. Adapt might be pretty good.
Starting point is 00:07:22 But I mean, it's just going to be tough. Yeah. It's going to be tough. It's going to be chaotic. 5V5 on these small maps. I have no idea how it's going to play. Yeah. No clue. It's going to be chaos. Hopefully just a couple free picks. Yeah. And we come out. out with a dub.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Whenever I saw I was getting Havoc and then I got last pick Envoy. Dude, how did Envoy make it to last? Bro, me and my chat were like, let's go. I was like, I got Havoconvoy and I get first pick for blast. I'm like, this is a fucking God squad. Then they're like, yeah, round four, you get last pick. I was like, yeah. That's where I come into play.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Dude, I was even debating playing this tournament. But I mean, I, picking Pomontra. me is faded so I don't care. You think? Yeah. Like actually though? In this setting? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I mean if we're going- Homage is good. No, he's really good. Like in the GGCSS, I would love to shit talk him, but he really stepped it up in the GGCS. It was him and whoever the fourth we were playing with. And like me and Mike P were just kind of like sitting in a corner and hopefully they come.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Like it'd be like Mike P with one or two, me with four, three to five. Then Pam with like nine to 12. and then blasts or whoever with like 14, like shit like that. Like Pam, I was even debating like who would I have picked. And I was like, Pam is kind of like,
Starting point is 00:08:48 I mean, maybe he just plays good with me, but like I actually kind of have fate. If it's a 1V1 and it's Pam, I'm like, I actually have fucking faith. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:57 it'll be fun. It'll be fun. Having, I think, I don't know who the bracket is. I think we play, I think we play Nick Envy. Falco's team first.
Starting point is 00:09:07 So Clayster, Selim, Shifty lunchtime. Falco doesn't play like that, does he? No, he hasn't downloaded the game. Okay, good. Yeah. I mean, it's still, it almost doesn't even matter because you could win a 4V5 fucking easily
Starting point is 00:09:20 with these. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, one last thing about this, thoughts on me picking havoc over formal. I think it's a smart choice. Yeah. Because people, some people are coming in my chat.
Starting point is 00:09:33 That's fucked up. dude you did pick for me you idiot yeah and i was like bro i had a chat i had a before all this we were waiting for for our picks and i was like chat if i can get i was like let's go section by section round one who'd who'd we pick everyone's like havoc havoc havoc i was like i was testing y'all i agree yeah if i'm first pick i'm picking havoc because that dude he was a demon and right play last year he has the most hours played on the game by far by far he's uh not scrimm but he's played ates he's played i think wagers and shit like havoc's they were playing like old man ates with like slacked apathy havoc octane made shot and he was fucking slam yeah i mean i didn't even
Starting point is 00:10:18 see that but i just like every time i watch him i'm like this dude could it's definitely cdl pro i think in the first round because the first round was a lot of like retired pros like a formal karma claster slacked um i can't i can't i can't uh crim six and i think havoc is probably the best he probably has the most hours played in that method i mean methods is methods crowded i was thinking i was like let's just assume we're not getting first pick because i really didn't think i would yeah but i was like let's assume we're not getting first pick who out of these guys and i think it was it was pretty much between
Starting point is 00:10:59 crimsics formal or zinny but i probably would because i heard crims six has been destroying yeah ian has been insane at this game um so it was just i didn't know but i was like i'm probably end up picking formal if i can get him assuming i'm not going to get havoc i'll probably get formal
Starting point is 00:11:15 yeah but i had some people coming to my chat and then i saw him get he's on team nicari Nicari, Ghosty Hesoka and Blake Everyone was like
Starting point is 00:11:27 Dude the nightmare blunt rotation team Yeah that's what I said It's just I just don't know If those four people I don't know if two people Like I don't know if three people in that group Have ever talked to each other Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:41 Like maybe formalist talk to Blake Or but I don't think there's like a It's been it's just I don't know To be honest bro it's like it almost doesn't even matter Like you look at a roster and you I thought, oh, this team will. I thought we were getting it slammed last year. Yeah, it's completely fucking, like, not random, but it's just who is buying the best.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yeah. And, like, we had, we had, it was like, myself, Aiden, myself, Aiden, um, uh, uh, smixie and a Beezie. And then I can't remember who our fifth was, but I was, oh, Octane. That was our group. And, like, obviously it's a good group, but like, that was when. Symphony was a captain, and Symphony had a crazy squad. And I was like, dude, we might get fucking demolished. But then Abizi goes in there and drops, like, 17 kills a map.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And I was like, holy shit. Bro, it could go. Holy shit. Yeah, it could, I mean, even the, I think it was the Zuma 50K or whatever the hell it was. Yeah. Who was the team? It was like scrap. Cellium.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Sium. Simp. And Kleenex. And Kleenex. And everyone was like. Like, oh, that team is, yeah. Because I look at that team and I'm like, oh, shit. Because you kind of look at every other team and it's like they got like a top pro, a bottom pro, a middle pro, bottom pro.
Starting point is 00:13:03 So it's all it's kind of just you just think that team's going to steam roll everyone. But then they just, I don't know what place they got. Third. Yeah, it was Shotsie. Shotsie and Dashie. Shotsie knocked that team to losers bracket and then Dashie's team beat them in losers. So it's like even in, I mean, I think right now you look at. Team Adapt
Starting point is 00:13:24 Was Zinny Symphony Nade shot? If you're a betting man Team Adapt probably has the highest odds right now Because they just don't really have a shitter I mean we don't really I mean I would consider myself a shitter
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah But like Not It just depends how I'm playing We also just haven't I mean because of the race We just haven't played any S&D at all
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah Like I'm not even gonna know where the bomb I'm going to get like after this. I'm going to go home, get on and just like, I'm going to ask the squad like, yo, hop on. This is what I did in GGCS. I would just have the good player hop on like 30 minutes or an hour early and just like tell me where to go.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Just like give me a spot. I'll go here. Yeah. I'm hoping that I'm hoping that blast. I mean, have it. Havoc and Dylan, I think, I mean, if we get them up top, Double point guard. Yeah, I think it has potential, man.
Starting point is 00:14:26 We have potential. We might just be chilling. I mean, if we're running the AK and the snipe. I'm right here. I'll hold left. I don't even know the call out of us. I hold left. And you're just sniping.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I hold right. I hold right. You guys go. Nice, nice, nice. Got him. Nice shit, guys. Nice shit. Yeah, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:14:46 But there's like, I mean, I like, I like, there's, I like this tournament because there's a, there's guns that you'll never see again there's equipment you'll never see again like there's one of the players has like an impact grenade is there score streaks at all no I got rid of the score streaks because there's five people there would all there would be a hundred
Starting point is 00:15:04 RC cars on the map and that's so oh my God that would be so annoying it'd be rocket can you just kill someone straight up with RC yeah dude you can kill like multiple people that actually would be funny though if everyone saved their RC for like round 11 it's just
Starting point is 00:15:20 boom bow bow bow bow Boom. But like there's a sniper. The sniper class has a Tomahawk. One of the subs has a smoke. This is why you want the sniper. It's not. Because I know you're thinking content over there.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I'm thinking what's the prize money first place, divide by five? I dead ass him not thinking content. I'm not going to be fucking 360 no scoping or trying to. Unless it's you and Blake in a 1v1. Oh, then I'm going to try to world star. Yeah. But I mean,
Starting point is 00:15:52 odds of that happening are very slim. So it'll be fun. It'll be fun. I'm excited about it. What else do we have, Matt? What else? Election, the election. Or do we talk?
Starting point is 00:16:02 Did you watch it? No. I mean, like, no, not really. It's funny because like, I would click on some random YouTube links, but. The last time Trump got elected. Last time Trump got elected, we were at the scuff house. And I remember going up to your, I remember going up to your room right after. I was like, can you believe this shit?
Starting point is 00:16:23 And you were like, dude, what the fuck? I, I, yeah, I remember, I mean, I don't remember the setting and shit, but I do remember when Trump was first running. I was like, what the fuck is this shit? Yeah. I was like, if, I was like, don't you guys get it? Like, he's only running to, like, prove, like, he's not actually, like, the U.S. The elite, like, the elites.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Kind of like Kanye. Yeah, like, the elites of the U.S. aren't going to, even if he won the most votes, like, those votes aren't going to, like, they'll, like, like, we're. rigged it like the elites the illuminati would never let trump be present of the united then when it happened i was like everything i believe just went out the window like i thought that i always thought there was like these elites higher up to control like yeah go vote your vote counts trust we're tallying them up there's like some clip i can't remember who it is it's like some like republican lady she went on like a uh on like a more liberal like radio station and
Starting point is 00:17:22 And they said, who do you think is going to be the candidate for the Republicans? And she said, well, as of right now, I think it's going to be Donald Trump. And they all hysterically started. Like back then? Yeah. They started hysterically laughing at her. And dude, if I was her and then he won, I would play that all the time. I even had that attitude.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I was like, too. I don't blame them. You actually, like, I would like look down on people who believed he would be president. like dude you don't get it do you to sell my high horse but holy shit fucking everything I'm hoping the world goes
Starting point is 00:18:01 I mean well we can go from there to here and then in was it 20 so what he first got elected in 2016 16 yeah then 2020 he ran again yeah against Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:18:14 and lost if was it in 2020 if You were for Donald Trump. You were like a right marked as like a racist. It's still that way.
Starting point is 00:18:26 A homophobic. It's still that way. It's still that way. I mean, we've seen that after post-election with all the. Dude. With all the Twitter is. I made a,
Starting point is 00:18:36 I made a joke like, because it's been so many years since Trump's been president that I kind of forgot. Not forgot, but I was like, like, I haven't heard him like actively talk that often. Like I haven't seen him on. on stage talking like because
Starting point is 00:18:52 when he was president he was talking all the fucking time and so he gets elected and I don't really watch those speeches or like post election speeches that often so I didn't know what to expect I guess but dude he just started like rambling and he's using that cadence
Starting point is 00:19:09 that like he only he talks like and I've got children I just want to thank my children I have four children and they're beautiful children and he did that that's kind of He's kind of like, oh, I want to thank my children. They are amazing children. I tweeted that dog.
Starting point is 00:19:26 You would have thought like. People coming at you? Yeah. Common, kind of immature of you, but all right. And they're like, what's so funny about that?
Starting point is 00:19:35 And then so many people are like, you're going to be mad four years of Trump. We finally won. Some people think that like, I think they thought that either I was saying that. Making fun of him? Making fun of him or in like praise of him. So like...
Starting point is 00:19:50 There's no winning. There's no winning. Both, even Trump supporters and Trump haters. But that's how it always is for me. Which I guess is my fault for not really... Speaking at all. Not really picking aside.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Part of me is like the people that pick aside and they're like fucking run with it, like at least, I mean, look, like, it's nonstop. It is nonstop. Well, what I was saying about the 2020 stuff is I remember in 2020 if you supported Trump, especially vocally on like Twitter or anything like you were looked at as like fucked up like the Mexicans saw you as like racist
Starting point is 00:20:28 and that might be an insane thing I just said but it was like it kind of was because that was wasn't that like the build a wall yeah yeah so it's like the Latin heritage kind of didn't like that women obviously didn't like that like if you support it and I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:20:47 I did support Trump this is just what I fucking would see you on Twitter and news and shit. But in 2020, even like, I mean, every other race, I feel like. Grab her by the pussy thing. It was almost like it was all, yeah. Remember that? Women, any other race, they did not,
Starting point is 00:21:05 it's like they did not really fuck with you in 2020 if you voted for Trump. 2020 Trump seemed like a white, almost like a, the white redneck racisty, racist-y kind of people were bad. and him and those were the vocal ones and that's and it was them against fucking everyone make America great again it was almost kind of like racistie but now racisty I can't be a fucking word but now it's flipped so hard you have Latin people voting for him I think I saw JCap dear Latin people of Twitter what made you guys sway your opinions of Trump from 2020 to
Starting point is 00:21:46 24 and I was like that's actually a good question I'm kind of curious as well. Oh, oh, he did say that. I saw him say, I saw J-Cap tweet something that I thought made a lot of fucking sense, but I wasn't going to tweet it. So now we'll talk about it on this, you know, a little podcast thing we got wrong. So the comments. But he said, like, why are so many people?
Starting point is 00:22:06 He was like, he was like, maybe I am mistaken or something, but why are so many? Oh, can somebody please explain to me the people legitimately freaking out about the, what they're going to do if Trump wins. Do they have amnesia and forget that he was already president? I'm confused by it. 222 replies. I'm sure 200 of them aren't following it. And it's just like, I mean, on a surface level, that makes, that is what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I saw so many people like crying and like, not like, I don't know if they're, I mean, some people like really crying. They're like, what are my God? It's, what are we going to do? And it's like, this has already happened. It's not, you're not going to see any change in your day to day life. Like, this is already, it's already happened once. I don't understand why.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I can, I totally understand if you don't like Trump, if you don't like his personality. I never thought his personality was suited to be a president. Like, I looked at him like a fucking clown. I also think. To be honest, it was embarrassing having him as the face of a president. Same, but I think the same thing about Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Dude can't fucking... No, there hasn't been... There hasn't been a... There hasn't been like a... A candidate for presidency since, like... Like, since prior to that 2016... Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah, prior to that 2016... Like, I feel... And I'm not saying he was the best president. I don't really... I mean, I wasn't... I'm not a political person, which, you know, has its pros and cons, but...
Starting point is 00:23:43 As a... As a human level, like, who would... I think I've said this before. Who would I want to be my coach? Who would I want to be my captain to lead me into battle? Who would I want to be the principal of my school? Like who is the leader of our country? There hasn't been.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I don't, I wouldn't rally behind any of these motherfuckers. I don't really. It's kind of weird. We're calling them like Sleepy Joe. We're calling him Trump. Like, we're not calling him like president. Like, there's so many people who it's just like, this is the, this is a fucking president. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I don't understand how our only options are so. extreme. And I'm not even into politics, but it's like Trump, Joe Biden who fucking can't form sentences. Like how there, we have I guess you have to do kind of be an extreme freak to even want to be president. I think
Starting point is 00:24:33 that in itself is insane. That's true. But like there's got to be some options out there that aren't just a shit show. The more extreme, the policy, because maybe it's because I was just young and I didn't realize it, but it just seems like everything is much more extreme and severe now. Like if you,
Starting point is 00:24:51 if, like, if you, if you have a different view, it's like, you're evil. It's fucking insane to me. Like,
Starting point is 00:25:00 I don't know. I will say I, I have seen more, and it probably is because Kamala lost. But I feel like if, and maybe it would be true that if Trump lost,
Starting point is 00:25:11 all the Trump supporters would have been freaking the fuck out, losing their mind on Twitter. It might have been worse. It might have been worse. lot of Kamala because she lost it's like it's like the fucking world is ending for them
Starting point is 00:25:24 and maybe there are some things to be honest I'm not even educated enough to speak on it but maybe there are some things and policies and I see a lot of stuff about women's rights being taken away and is it true I don't like but I mean there probably are genuine concerns that
Starting point is 00:25:42 with abortion there's definitely genuine concerns and I'm not gonna. But at the end of the day a lot of it is is just the differences between beliefs and republicans and democrats is what it i don't even get that i don't get how you can just like choose a side and fight for that side and it's just you that side can do no wrong it's yeah it's i i feel like i'm a crazy person no matter what i got to have their back over here there's a there's a not on their fucking team there's a lot of like political political like issues and discourse that like i i have a an opinion that's a i have a an opinion
Starting point is 00:26:17 on but it's not even that much of an opinion where I can like really rally behind it. Like I kind of like half believe this but like I'm not gonna like go rally behind it with a bunch of other people and wear red hats or or vice versa. I'm not gonna paint
Starting point is 00:26:33 my hair blue and even like the red hat shit I'm like what's what's really behind that? Like what is you want if it's like you want the attention of like is it all right? I'm on this 100% it's like this like super power you feel when you put all that fucking hat knowing like these idiots around you have your back
Starting point is 00:26:53 and shit and it's all against the world and it's like do you are you doing that because you want what's best for the country and you want and you want to like make a difference are you doing that because like you see it as like I can go outside wear this and automatically be in an argument yeah automatically yeah I think I think it's like there's a lot of to both sides I do genuinely believe like even when I say rally with my idiot friends with their hats to I don't actually believe all of them are idiots obviously both parties are fucking idiots there's idiots all over the planet you're gonna have idiots
Starting point is 00:27:26 idiots wherever you go yeah they're both I mean they're both equally bad but like like the extremists on both like the extreme not the extremists like I'm not talking about fucking the like groups of extremists I'm talking about like how extreme people take their opinions where like you can't even like you can't even like joke or like or like you can't be a person with no opinion
Starting point is 00:27:52 because they'll come at you for that too yeah and like if you're a person that doesn't want you don't want to be involved in in all the the drama or the debates or you don't want to you don't like you don't want to you don't I personally don't want to talk about stuff like because I don't want to argue not I don't yeah I'd rather go my life and try to be as happy as possible. An argument is only going to make my day worse. Right. So I don't, and I will get nothing out of like arguing and, but if I win or like I haven't, I just don't have a fucking interest in.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Dude, I, and some people. And I'm not educated enough even. Yeah, me neither. But some people will go out of their way to be like, hey. It's their identity. Who do you vote? Who did you vote for? And if I'm like, nah.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Like, I, not only do I not want to. I don't. Not only know I want to really talk about it, I'm definitely not telling you. Because if I tell you, because everyone, every once in a while, people are like, who you vote for? And I'm like, and they're like, okay. But, but I definitely don't want to tell. You know what I mean? Like, if you come to me and say, like, like, you're starting an argument, I didn't want a part of.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I didn't want to be a part of in the first place. Well, even when when scump said he voted. I was surprised he said that on stream in front of 50,000 people. Did he say who he voted for? What? No. Okay. Because that was that was going to be my point when Seth came in here said he just got back from voting. Like I didn't even ask who. Yeah. Like I just because I don't. I did. I did. But jokingly. Like so who did you when they gave you the paper who did. What did you? What were though? There was a few bubbles. Which one did you? I was trying to figure. But I didn't even ask because I just don't. I assumed. But to be honest. But to be honest, I have no idea. I don't.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It doesn't, it shouldn't matter who he could have said Kamala, he could have said Trump, he could have said fucking anyone. And my response would be, oh, okay. Like a normal fucking person. And then the conversation is kind of over. Just a normal person. I mean, maybe, maybe it's just, dude. Why do people, one thing I do want to know is because I obviously. So many people have clicked off right now.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Yeah. Actually, no, I think this kind of, this at this time, as long as this releases within the next few days. it should catch I think people are interested in this and I would be this is going up tomorrow if uh like if J-CAP
Starting point is 00:30:22 and fucking some other people did some shit like this I would listen and just be like what's there yeah I'd listen they seem more into it than me but um
Starting point is 00:30:30 why do why do people hate Kamala Matt you can tune in yeah Matt what why do people hate Kamala I feel like Matt's a political kind of guy I'm definitely not
Starting point is 00:30:41 and uh I think my mic's about to break so I think y'all got this one alright man he's scared yeah he don't want to he don't want to dabble I can tell you what a close friend of mine thinks a very close friend of mine like a very very very close friend of mine
Starting point is 00:30:59 he uh what is Blake thing he uh not someone someone that I'm close with thinks that like someone from home yeah so someone I went to high school with thinks that she is a leftover candidate and never didn't seem legit ever it seemed like every answer was a robotic answer here's my counter counter argument and it seemed and it and it seemed like in a nation that needs to appear strong we have been weak for four years and that would have sent us down another down a path where we continue to be weak that's what a friend of mine told me I mean, okay. Which I think has merit.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I heard someone say, because there's this weird thing with Kamala where people are like, what has she done? What does she ever do? She has no accomplishment. That was kind of a thing to say about her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:00 But then someone came out and said, just started listing shit that she was, she's done. And it's like legit shit. Like, oh, Attorney General on San Diego or Supreme Court in California or like just started lifting. And then attorney general for the, some for the White House and then the vice president for the white.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And then it listed fucking like 15 years of accomplishments for her to get to where she was at. And I was like, see, like that shit I don't hear from the Trump side. Because the Trump side would be like, who is this? Who is this B.I.T.C.H. What is she done? She ain't do shit. How does she even get here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And then someone just lists off the past 15 years of her life to actually maybe 20 plus. Is she 50? I think she 50? Maybe the past 20 plus years of her life of how she has earned this spot. If she is this far into politics where she's the assistant, the fucking vice president of the United States, she's done some shit. It's not like. So I just don't really. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Deputy district attorney. I think that's in California. San Francisco. Attorney General, United States Senator of California and vice president. Yeah. So she was a senator. And that's from 19. So 30 plus years starting as a deputy district attorney.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Yeah. To another district attorney, to attorney general of the state of California, to the senator of California, to the vice president. I mean, that's some good fucking like I got to be honest. That's some like credible shit. I don't know how people like where do people just come up with shit. I think that's because I think there is an element of the presidency. and maybe I'm fucking crazy because I think it,
Starting point is 00:33:46 but you want to, you want to vote for someone who seems legit. Like, like someone who, like it doesn't matter how much is on their resume. It doesn't matter how much is on a basketball coach's resume. If he can't shoot the ball, there's an element of like,
Starting point is 00:34:03 well, why the fuck am I listening to you? If like, I don't even believe in you to begin with. Yeah. And I think, I think there's an element of that. Doesn't always have to be the case, though.
Starting point is 00:34:13 No, I agree with that. But there is an element of that that I think if you take this person and this person, then you can, you can go back. And this is why I think people in politics that are like really into politics, they just can't wrap their mind around it. Because I think a lot of people vote based off of gut. I'm not saying I do, but I think a lot of people do. Fuck, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And like. Because, I mean, I could go out and vote off my gut feeling. and I know who I'd sort of maybe lean into. Who would that be? I don't know. Who is that? I don't know. I mean, yeah, I think that's where most people are at.
Starting point is 00:34:51 They're not really looking. It's just too much. It's too much to even learn. I was actually watching. How I was getting my information fed to me during the election was I was watching Ludwig's stream. Because it was just up on YouTube. That's the most hitch thing I've ever seen. Well, I actually wasn't.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I wasn't watching it. I got my political information to sway my vote in 2024. I had already, the voting was already over. So it's not. I was just, it was just, I didn't want to pull up CNN. And so he was watching it. And Blake was like, yo, Ledwig's watching it right now. So I clicked on his stream.
Starting point is 00:35:26 So all three of us, we were done streaming. We were just watching his stream. And I think at one point, he said, you know, the, uh, the Democrats, the biggest issues that they have is they don't have enough Riz. I was like, what the fuck? That'd be, uh, that's us. That's us if we learned more about this shit. And I was and and then he was just like they just don't they you need you need someone that, uh,
Starting point is 00:35:49 has enough charisma to be a president and also agree or like, you know, have the democratic views. And I was like, I don't know much about anything, but it kind of makes it. It kind of makes sense. I mean, that's, I feel like Obama's a good fucking representation of that. Dude, did you see How, Matt, this is something you could probably look up.
Starting point is 00:36:14 How bad of a beat was it? Yeah, wasn't it a pretty bad one? I think it was like, and multiple, what I don't fuck with. There's multiple news stations that, I don't know what's Republican,
Starting point is 00:36:28 what's Democrat. I don't even know, is Trump Republican? Or is Trump Democrat? Trump is Republican. And she's Democrat. Yeah. See, I remember when I first started learning,
Starting point is 00:36:38 like I thought of myself as like a Democrat I don't even know fucking why but now I'm just like neither I don't know what I don't know I don't know anything my parents my whole family is like hardcore conservative fuck what was my point even going to be with all that oh but certain
Starting point is 00:36:54 news stations that are like Democratic news stations would have like Kamala's winning the polls like just all just just straight capping on the fucking poll facts okay so he won he won the electoral college
Starting point is 00:37:09 295 to 226 it doesn't seem can you look up like Obama can you look Obama's first election because I think he one of Obama's he wiped the floor with them like from my
Starting point is 00:37:26 understanding unless I got one guide on on social media but I saw somebody's tweet that was like Obama was beating people so bad you could go to the club that night to celebrate what a what are What's the pink states mean? There's like two pink states.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Oh, yeah. He beat the shit out of Romney. 332 to 206. Beat the fuck out of them. I mean, really only five million. Why is it all the same states always go? Five million fucking, actually it was only five million popular vote. All the same states stick to the same color.
Starting point is 00:38:01 No, there's seven swing states. Right? I think it's seven swing states. What is that mean? think Trump won all of them. Is that states that could go either way? Yeah, like Texas is always going to be red. California is always going to be blue.
Starting point is 00:38:15 But why is Texas always going to be red? What if we're like, you know, we fuck with a red means Republican? Yes. So what if we had a Democratic president that everyone just loved? You don't think Texas would be like, all right, well, we got to vote for him. He's just the better candidate. No. They're like, no, we have to vote red for life.
Starting point is 00:38:35 It could be you. And so, that is not how it should be. You could be you up there. It could be Kanye. I'm Republican. And Texas would be like, we got you. Swing states. I'd be up there with a gun.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Just I'm Republican. And they would vote for me. Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, Ohio, New Hampshire. Those are. So swing states are just the states commonly. Did you win all of those, Matt? I, from.
Starting point is 00:39:05 As when we were. watching it at the time, every single swing state was like fucking red. So swing states are just states that commonly change from red to blue. And then what's the non-swing states? I mean, the biggest. I always just think Texas and California. I mean, do they have a name, though? Just not.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Just red state, blue state is usually what people were. But then there's just a few, there's 10 states that like kind of go back and forward. Yeah, like, and that's why they campaigned so heavily in those states. Oh, okay. Like, I went to an ECU. We already know Texas is voting for us. So let's go down to Florida and win these motherfuckers over. I went to an ECU game on the eastern side of North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Like, fucking way over there. Like three hours from the airport, two and a half hours from the airport. And fucking J.D. Vance was at the game. Just the running. It's kind of what you got to fucking deal. Running vice president. Just at the game went to a hot. There's a hot dog place called Sub Dogs.
Starting point is 00:40:03 He was in the subdogs. They're just like they just campaigned constantly. I need a text blast. It starts at 2 p.m., right? Two, yeah. I just want to make sure he's ready. Yeah, the shit's all new to me. It is funny, though, how I get older,
Starting point is 00:40:21 the more I'm sort of becoming interested in it. And I don't know if that's just because I have so little to do with my day, or it's because it's actually made it to my type of social media, Twitter, TikTok, YouTube. So I don't even know if age has to do with it. I think politics are just coming to social media hard as fuck and that's just where you find me in. I think I'm going to wait to the next one.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Because the next one, no, just to care. Well, me and Hitch or me and Hicks talked, I was like, well, I'm going to vote this person. He was like, well, I'm going to vote that person. I was like, so neither of us got a vote. They would cancel it anyways. Yeah, let's just. And then we just handled that real quick.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Yeah, I think I'm going to wait until next time. Clean slate. hopefully no reality TV shows, stars, hopefully no leftover vice presidents. Kanye? Hopefully we just have two. I want to see like a battle between two people that can form complete sentences.
Starting point is 00:41:18 That's what I want. Too smart, two Barack Obama's. Someone that I feel should lead the country. I know we still have a little bit of, we have some time left, and I have to piss really bad. While I piss, you want to... We got new merch dropping the winter merch. Shop.optogaming.com.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I'm not sure exactly when it's coming out. Now that everybody's mad and pissed, get out your wallets. Go get some optic merch. I'm rocking the Christmas sweater. It is so loud when you take off your headphones. Oh, yeah. The headphones were a clutch play. I'm rocking the Christmas sweater.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Hitch has the, honestly, this is my favorite merch. We've probably dropped all year. You should see the, I don't even know what they call that. What is this called? Matt? It's like a jacket hoodie type thing. It's just a hoodie, yeah. It's like a hoodie. It's like some... But like this and some of the other items, I actually fuck when I'm heavily. But I have to piss so bad. And it's starting to get a little cooler as well. It's the best time of the year. No More Sweaty ass. That's the worst part. Right, Matt? Right. That's correct. How do you think Matt, how do you think that segment's going to go over in all seriousness?
Starting point is 00:42:34 I feel like it'll be fine. Really? Yeah. I mean, I feel like it'll be fine in the... You think there's enough people that watch the flight cast that know that we don't know what we're talking about and they're just wanted to chill in here and listen to us talk? I think that the people that like you guys know that you're not like super hard one way or the other. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:55 So right there, neither one of you were like really fighting for one side of the other. It was kind of like everything is fucked anyway. Yeah, it's just kind of like a what the fuck. is going on type type type ordeal and then there was also the vibe of like if the if this like were to hit you know like normie YouTube Algo
Starting point is 00:43:13 there's really nothing you can do about that yeah there's nothing you know I mean you kind of just get a I will be a racist snowflake until the day I die I guess that's what I'll be which you know I've come to terms with it comments will be good on this one I actually have to pee too
Starting point is 00:43:34 so we're going to cut Welcome back to the Flycast. It's your boy. I'm trying to decide Flycast. I don't know if you're listening on YouTube. I assume everyone's listening on YouTube. But am I a hat guy now? This hat's not really fit in my fat dome like I wanted to.
Starting point is 00:43:53 But I can't tell if I'm a hat guy. Probably not. Probably not. Yeah, I don't know if it said anything. Shop that out of the gaming. We got some winter merch. I took pictures in the merch. Hitch went and took a piss.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I took pictures in the merch. Did a little photo sheet. And to be honest, I've kind of fucked with it heavily. There were multiple. If you have some dark, khaki-ish pants, probably work with jeans, too. Some dark, either black or like a lighter black or like a bluish black or a super dark blue.
Starting point is 00:44:40 If you just have a few of those pairs of pants, you can match those with a lot of the tops we've created. And it's not just regular hoodies. It's like, it's almost like jacket hoodies. I forget of some of the other stuff, but it was some actual good stuff, some socks, some hats, some scars, of course. But there was a, there was a few of the tops that I really did like. It was either like two or three of them. The one hitch is wearing was dope. so yeah man
Starting point is 00:45:10 winner collection coming soon coming soon don't know when but coming very very soon all right do we want to talk about the race the prestige
Starting point is 00:45:22 we can touch on it real quick I guess yeah we talked about it we talked about it a little bit on the optic pod so I don't want to overlap that too much but how has your recovery been I just needed
Starting point is 00:45:34 my the two days after it I was in bed entire time to smoking weed. I think my, I think I was like extremely like the exhaustion level that I felt afterwards was the most I've ever felt. I said, bro, I'm telling, did I say this on the optic pot? It was like when I took Addy again.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah, yeah. Or not took Addy again. No, no. When I would take Addy. Did I say it? It was, it was similar to the crash of an Adderall crash. Yeah. It was because I was, I got.
Starting point is 00:46:09 oh little of sleep within like a seven day span. Yeah. That when I just got home and got to my bed, it was just instantly knocking out. Yeah. And I slept, like, I think I got home. I think we finished year at like three, say three. Get home at four. Knocked out till like eight or nine p.m.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Or probably like 7.30 or something. Woke up, eight, my girlfriend got home and just knocked out again at like eight or nine p.m. And then woke up at like noon the next day. Like a solid, I slept a solid like 16 hours from when I got home to like the next day. And then I think luckily I did have something I had to get up and do or I just would have sat there, smoked like a loser, did nothing late in bed, ate like shit. But I was eating like shit. I lost all momentum.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Yeah. I was eating like shit, sleeping all day. And it just brought back that nostalgic feeling of when I used to just stay up for days on end. And it was not a good feeling. I was like, oh, my God, like driving in my car just genuinely tired, no motivation to do anything. There's no way I'm going to the gym. Yeah. Like, that's not even an option.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I just having, feeling that feeling again, I was like, I would, I just, I'll never go back. Yeah. I'll deal with the anxiety and the stress and the depression and I'll just handle it all, but I would never go back to how I used to live. Yeah. Which is, yeah. One thing I want to ask you is like, whenever, I mean, you. actually we already talked about us on the optic pod too but um like we were some of us i guess myself zen and in and set who aren't really like aware of what like rehab is like uh we were like
Starting point is 00:47:50 kind of cautious like super cautious actually and very aware of alcohol around tush and and you were kind of like he's fine so uh have you seen a pill since you've gotten back have you seen one i saw one a few weeks ago for the first time i've seen a few yeah and it and it and it was never i've had people ask me to get them addie what but it's like it's not i'm not some well i am a freak but i'm not like some freak oddball who just can't I just see the pill I thought like I can control myself
Starting point is 00:48:35 See I was worried that I wouldn't be able to I mean you're just you're not on the I don't you're just not on I also I took a pill I would live in fucking misery and failure right now if I was to take one It wouldn't be worth it at all Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:52 Like if I took it I know I wouldn't sit there like love in life And like gaming staying up for a long time Locked in like it would not That's not how my high would go. I would be just in my head about, I can't believe I'm that big of a fucking loser to where I've resorted back to this. Even if I'm just taking one for fun,
Starting point is 00:49:12 like this is pathetic. It would just be the most negative talk ever. So I'm not literally, I tell people this all the time, man. You can't save anyone, only they can save themselves. Once I made the decision on December 27th,
Starting point is 00:49:29 2020, 2020, December 27th, 2020. Once I made that decision that day, I just, I knew I wasn't going to take it. To be fair, to be completely transparent, I knew I wasn't going to take it for a long time. Now, when I'm 37 and I got my life together, say, I got money and will I take, hop on one night with the boys or something for a Halo 3? To be honest, probably not. No. Do I fantasize about it? Sure.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Do I completely, do I miss it sometimes? Sure. But the negatives completely outweighed the positives. Like I've said this all the time, but my biggest and probably only regret in the scuff house was the amount of Addy I took because it changes the way you think. You're not. Once you take it, sure, you're motivated. You'll edit that video. You'll get that upload.
Starting point is 00:50:24 But once that crash starts, you feel like shit. until you take again. It's a horrible cycle. You start, you start staying up days at a time. You start losing motivation. It doesn't hit like the same. You got to take more. So then you're up for even more days. And it's just you lose all like right now I'm on a cycle to where like I can wake up at the same time every day. I can if I hopefully figure something out like a YouTube video. I can like I can hit the gym at this time. Like I'm not fighting anything. I'm just in that route I have that momentum and that is impossible
Starting point is 00:50:59 whenever I'm taking Addy like that Yeah So it's just Taking Adi for me It's just not even a It was just a pathetic way of life Yeah There are, I definitely do miss it
Starting point is 00:51:11 Like today's today We got attorney today And it would be so much more fun If I could take Addy And like or it'd be so much more fun If I could turn it on the stream Play wagers with bows and shit And dollar wagers
Starting point is 00:51:24 Don't really care when or lose But like I'm cracked out so I'm having fun. Like, that's fun for those six to eight hours. And even that, sometimes it's not fun. You fucking lose and you're down because you're crashing.
Starting point is 00:51:37 You're way down. You're way down. So fucking down. Like, yeah, I just don't think people, people just don't know actually. And this is not the sound.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I know you're sick of hearing it. But how down bad I truly was. Like it is not, it's just feeling I will never get to again. Yeah. I mean, That was just something I was doing. Did that answer your question?
Starting point is 00:51:58 Yeah. What was your question? I was comparing you guys a situation where I was like, you know, maybe. Batush. Yeah. Now he. Because I did saw. There's some people that like, they do have like very severe cases.
Starting point is 00:52:13 You've got to get the alcohol out of the house. You've got to get it out of the workplace. They can't see. So as Tush admitted publicly that he went to rehab? Yeah. Yeah. He talked about it on the stream. So we can say it.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Yeah. He talked about it on the stream. He didn't talk about why. I don't think. I didn't talk about all of the intricacies. Oh, was it alcohol? He talked about alcohol.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Okay. But he's, or he talked about just complete sobriety. He is stone sober. Yeah. That's why he was making jokes about hitting his vape so much. He was like, I'm licking the battery acid out of that.
Starting point is 00:52:41 He's like, I need something. Yeah, no, I know, I know when we, uh, he's been stone sober for a few months.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Yeah. And I did, I think six, six months before I had my first. What's funny, I did six months of being, six or seven of being fully sober. Then Formal and Dashie came over one night
Starting point is 00:53:01 and we had White Claws. And it was like, like, that's how I break it. That's how I break my surprise. With white claws. With white claws with Dashy and fucking formal. And we just had like three. And I was like, I can, what the fuck? I could actually feel this.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And then that was it. And then it's sort of like, I just didn't have. I never like swore to myself I'd stop with the alcohol because I do I do think you can have fun in life without overdoing it and if I go on a trip and I'm going to get drunk or we go to success for the Super Bowl or 4th of July like I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:53:35 So long as I'm once a month, sure. As long as it's not affecting my routine, my goals, my daily shit, whatever. But people were saying with Trump, Trump, with Toosh, when we were sitting there the night before we beat it and like taking shots and shit. Like people were, people in Tush's chat were like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:53:57 That's so fucked up. And to be honest, I agree with them. But I think it's like, if you know Tush, though. Tush was asking us to drink the whole week. Yeah. Tush is like,
Starting point is 00:54:09 I don't know if he felt. Tush would feel weirder if we didn't drink because he was there. Tush is someone, it's very hard to peel behind the curtain to. I kind of pride myself because on, in around the. bar. I asked him about something that happened in his career. And he like actually spoke like was
Starting point is 00:54:30 direct with me and spoke. There was no sarcasm. There was no like jokes. We just talked for like five minutes. Then we went back to like fucking around. But he does he is he is he is everything is sarcasm and wit and and hilarious and joking all the time. So like when he's like, ah, rip a shot. Go ahead. rip one. Like, you're like, do you want me to drink in front of you? Or do you not want you? Well, I think he would be, it would be more, it would make him feel weirder if like, yeah, you know what, no, we're not gonna.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And like, he's in there like, shut the fuck up. Like, do you guys think I'm going to go to take the bottle to start chugging? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I understand that feeling as well. Like, people were kind of, when I got out of rehab, people were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't mention it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. just kind of. And you were like, dude, even with like alcohol and stuff, people were like, well, you shouldn't,
Starting point is 00:55:26 don't. But no, it's, I think once you make the decision for yourself, like these outside, like you're stronger than these outside forces. And I think he would have felt even more uncomfortable if we didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:55:41 But I mean, I do see their point. I see it. And I do think there's some people who you shouldn't have alcohol around because they are, it does flip something in their fucking brain to maybe now they'll go home and and drink. I know a dude in rehab, me and him would talk about some like, it wasn't really us as a group,
Starting point is 00:56:03 but my roommate in rehab was this like 50-year-old man, chill as fuck, everyone liked him. He was probably like 60 actually. He was in there for alcohol. Like everyone when they're in there swears they're done with it, blah, blah, blah. And he would talk to me about, like, he would basically preach to me about God and he'd pray for me and we'd pray together and blah, blah, blah. It was actually kind of like, I kind of miss rehab, man. That was an experience. But he got out.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And then within two weeks, while I was still in there, we get word that he already relapsed. And he's like drinking heavy again. And it's just like, that's the reality of it. And I feel like that's the type of person to where it's like he can't be around. alcohol. Yeah. But I think it's like people just get home. It's kind of like a yay, like good job, proud of you.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But then it's like, I got to go to work. And then it's like, all right, well, I'll just, you know, the alcoholic is sitting there like, all right, well, I'll just sit here. Like, he's old, retired. Yeah. What's he really going to do? And then he's just probably sitting on his couch on his front porch. And he's just like all these feelings inside.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah. He's probably convincing himself, like he could do this moderately at least. And maybe that's how it fucking starts again. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. It's a tough, it's a complicated and tough thing to navigate through. Whether it's you yourself, whether it's someone you're close with, because people in my family are, I mean, we got all types of stuff's messed up.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Dad's side, mom's side. Yeah. But it's hard, it's hard helping people out because I have someone in my life who I really want to help out. But we just don't know how we've talked about it as a family. Not going to say who, what, when, why, but like we've talked about it as a family and, like, we really want to get him help. But it's like he just, he kind of seems fine with what he's doing, but we know he's killing himself slowly. Like, and I'm just waiting to wake up one day and get that call that. He passed away.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah. But it's just, I don't, I just don't. I think a lot of people have that in their family. Yeah. And again, it's like you said, a lot of people can't, you can't force someone to change. They have to want to change themselves. I mean, yeah, I can only speak from my experience.
Starting point is 00:58:37 That's how my, once I was done, I was done. Even when I went to rehab my first time, which I'm sure I've said this a hundred times. Even when I went my first time, it was, I'm just going to go for nine. days detox come back probably not take for a while but like just just reset i'm resetting yeah because i'm on a bad path right now i'm just reset i didn't i didn't mention i'm gonna quit forever i didn't mention i'm done with all this shit i just went for like a detox a reset and a safe environment maybe learned some shit right when i got out soon after me and my girlfriend broke up and right when that i was like i am a free man to do any take as much because when you have a girlfriend
Starting point is 00:59:15 it's like hey you're just gonna come to sleep tonight you're like there's no way I could sleep right now. I'm on 200. Jesus. So once I was free, I don't want to say free from my girlfriend, but once we broke up, I just went insane. But then by the end of that year, I was like, yeah, I'm done with this shit. I've never felt more like a fucking loser.
Starting point is 00:59:34 The only person that's going to change this shit is me. And I am in full control as of now. Yeah. But some people, I don't know, you can't necessarily help. Nate shot, Sub-Athon. on. Yeah, let's go. It was ripped the band-aid off.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Yeah, he, speaking about how, I don't even think we even talked about, besides how exhausted we were at the Master Procede, I think it was, um, I think, I think my,
Starting point is 01:00:00 I found a, uh, my tweet was, um, oh, hell yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:06 we have matching tattoos now, matching tattoos, which is fire. We got, but we both got bananas. Mine's peeling a little bit, but, um,
Starting point is 01:00:16 uh, what, What was I say? Oh, I think I tweeted, like, out of all the best days of my life, or out of all the best weeks of my life, this was the worst one. Just because it was such, I mean, it was genuinely. Oh, about RTP? It was genuinely amazing. Like, it was fucking incredible.
Starting point is 01:00:30 While you're there. But when you're in it, oh, my God. Like, I saw a formal quote retweet and he was like, be there next year. And I'm sitting there. You have no idea. You will bail so fucking fast. I don't know if any other person in Optic. Bose wouldn't
Starting point is 01:00:48 Bose wouldn't amazing local person I'm sure Z-Lanner could have done it I'm sure that might be it yeah no people don't
Starting point is 01:00:58 people think it because when people visit for three six hours and then go home they think like oh I could do that but you got to think
Starting point is 01:01:06 about the other 18 hours you got to think about the two and a half hours of sleep you got you got to think about laying there in your bunk bed
Starting point is 01:01:13 laying that's the fucking issue with ear plugs in if we do this again next year I mean I'm down for y'all doing that and I'll try the first night or two
Starting point is 01:01:23 but like I'm telling you I was the one like day four with probably like three and a half five hours asleep we've got to do it next year we've got to do it next year with a shower we've got to we've got to either Airbnb somewhere but the thing with Matt
Starting point is 01:01:39 tell me what you think the thing with Airbnb is I think people enjoyed seeing everyone like when everyone was asleep and you saw all five I agree. That's why I felt bad fucking rage quitting and throwing my shit in the corporate side. But I was just on too little of fucking sleep and I was getting pissed off.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Because I think if we... About the swing on the next motherfucker who takes my shift. That was not aware that that was going to be such an issue, but it was. But what do you think, Matt? Yeah, I agree. I think being able to see everyone the entire time is huge. So I don't think we could... I don't think you would Airbnb.
Starting point is 01:02:21 house i think you need to air b and b like a like a gymnasium but like like like hector garage yeah hector's garage one big room that also just has a as a shower yeah yeah but we i don't i i do think that's the best to have the bunk beds in the back yeah it is the best but when you're the person that has to sleep there especially when like i'm sleeping from six a m to noon but at by eight a m scumps up especially like the first day i think yeah i think like it's i think i fell asleep at like 6 a.m the first night or something and then actually no it might have been the second night but then it's a fall asleep 6 a m horrible sleep always waking up always lights fucking lights sound talking music then like someone
Starting point is 01:03:16 gifts scump a 20 gifted yo thank you uh thank you by the appreciate it and just shit is so much more irritating when you're tired. Yes. Like you would think, like I just did that. People are like, oh, get over it. But you got to think I just woke up from like a 45 minute nap. I'm hot. The AC wasn't working at that time.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah. And I'm like, it is 8 a.m. And I am just now getting to sleep. There is no way I'm going to be able to sleep. So my sleeps would be like sleep for 15 minutes, wake up, sleep for 10 minutes, wake up, sleep. I just kept waking. I would wake up 10 times and be able to sleep. like it's been two hours i'm just getting the fuck did you did you because obviously we ended on such a
Starting point is 01:03:57 high did you miss it when you got home yeah me too i was like i was like i was like i was like i was like i was like i want this to be like a more why did not maybe not it why do i miss being there because there was a camaraderie and there was there was fucking dopamine of just so much gifted subs non-stop like like we can't act like that isn't the main part of like getting dopamine, but even just like hanging out together, everyone's hanging around the couch. I just think it's been...
Starting point is 01:04:27 Playing random games of what genre music's to play. Who's the best DJ? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like who can, you know... I think there's an element of optic that I love, but it also is a pain in my fucking ass, which is how backwards we always think. It's just like,
Starting point is 01:04:43 guys, we're going to do something fucking epic. It's going to be scum and formal playing cod together. And it's just like, dude, like it's the same fucking like we're a very nostalgia driven org and that felt like something else it felt like all the sudden tush is taped to the wall all the sudden fucking i think it went went really well yeah there's like there's a there's yoga going on in the background and and seth is obviously getting this outmassive you know outpour of support during the first call of duty
Starting point is 01:05:14 or during the first days of the call of duty release but also there's another element on top of it that is just keeping it entertaining. Did you see Seth's viewership in comparison? I don't know if you can find that. In comparison to what? It was week one of Blackop's six viewership. Dude, Seth is first. Seth compared to everyone else.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Seth is first. Shotsie's second and it's the top 10. You could put two through 10 on there, stack them on top of each other, and it's still not hitting what Seth did. I want to see his ad revenue for that week. I saw the optic ad revenue. Really?
Starting point is 01:05:49 Crazy. Really? Crazy. Just like YouTube? Yeah. But I think Matt and I were talking about it. I think if you take if the optic, if that was just Twitch streamers, if you put YouTube streamers in there, I bet you the optic YouTube channel is probably the second most viewed streamer for the release. There were seven to, there were seven to 15,000 people in the optic chat at all times.
Starting point is 01:06:19 In the YouTube channel. Yeah, I guess I didn't have. have that many views. To be honest, I looked at my revenue and I thought it'd be more. Maybe it's just because my, I think my Halo watch party, um, apocalypse happened. Just happened. So like that went down. So I think that fucked with my total revenue or something. Yeah. So I expected more. And I was wondering what I was going to have from ads, but like it really wasn't. I was like 24-7 streaming. Let's say I have 200 to 250 viewers.
Starting point is 01:06:51 What did you make from ads? I mean, I wouldn't even be able to tell you. Like, I was just looking at it. We made, we made 4200 from ads. See, I would, I maybe had a thousand. Oh, really? Because I mean, because I would look at it and it'd be like 105 this day, 120 this day, 78 this day, 95.
Starting point is 01:07:09 But I mean, I did have less viewers than you like the entire time. So obviously that's going to. Yeah. I mean, but that being said, that ad revenue for probably both of our streams is more than I don't know well actually no you've done like watch parties
Starting point is 01:07:23 and shit where you get I'm frant the shit don't make sense to me because I've seen days where my ad revenue is
Starting point is 01:07:30 and it is on my better streams but it would just be like 550 bucks for this day during like a Halo watch party day or something
Starting point is 01:07:37 you're like how yeah yeah I'm like what the fuck and then some days where I'm streaming consistently with the same amount
Starting point is 01:07:43 of viewers some days it'll make 80 bucks and then some days it made 17 and like shit don't make sense to me sometimes. Like I streamed the same shit two days in a row
Starting point is 01:07:54 with the same amount of viewers, but this day I may 20, I guess it's how many non-subs are watching because your subs aren't getting those ads. Yeah, I guess. So maybe it's shit, I don't fucking know. I don't know how many of it works, but, but yeah, I'd love a little peek into Seth's,
Starting point is 01:08:10 into Seth's. Yeah. Oh, I'm definitely happy with, you know. I mean, but even, I mean, I think there was also a part where I was just like, dude, if I hear the look at him. Oh, he's locked in. Ready for the day.
Starting point is 01:08:22 He's locked in, skipping out on my tournament. What? Look at that. Look at that. Yep. Sam. I mean, Seth is so far ahead of everyone. It is insane.
Starting point is 01:08:41 See, I feel like. Three million and then swag and second. Shout out swag. And they're still going. Would it be safe to say we should get some of that? No. The thing is, I know Seth's community, like, the reason the BTH community popped off as much as it did. Like, I didn't know what to expect.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Like, I kind of disappeared for three, four months and stream. I came back, did some IRL streams, and then boom, this shit. And I felt like I didn't connect with my community again before this. So I didn't know how this would show up. But the BTH community pooled fucking through. And I know, shouts out Seth. people from all the other communities came over to show my community love
Starting point is 01:09:22 and like that's just sort of how it fucking win like that the communities you know shout out to Seth for having as big as a community he has they pulled through for and the optic YouTube chat and the Optic YouTube chat shouts out to y'all for hanging out there they were always fucking in there
Starting point is 01:09:38 they were always and then once you gave them attention it was oh they loved it was because everyone else would neglect them yeah shout out to everyone man Shout out to everyone being a part of this shit. That shit was so much fun. All channels were show and love, man.
Starting point is 01:09:54 We've got a few other ideas written on a, just because of how great that went. We got a few other ideas that are written on a whiteboard. And, yeah, we'll see, we'll see if we can replicate even just a smidge of what. Of just not call of duty? Yeah. We've got a few. I mean, or like, call a duty adjacent, but not anything, anything like that. Eight days straight is crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:18 It was fun. Like I felt like I got to know Zinny better, Tush, a lot better. I see Tush's fucking community is funny. Like they're just weird like him. And his chat, his chat is hilarious because they love him. And if it's not him,
Starting point is 01:10:37 they're like, all right, let's go do something. I mean, that's a good, that's all you need right there. And that is how, I think, it was great to see. him. It was kind of like, I mean, we announced him and he's been in some videos. He's
Starting point is 01:10:52 been funny in videos, but that felt like the optic fans were like, dude, we like him. Like, he was very like a staple part of that whole fucking event. I didn't know what to expect from him. I didn't know if he was like a hyper.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Because I feel like you, like whenever Nate shot was coming over, I knew it would be Scump, Nate, tush and like zinny and i was like no one else is saying a fucking word this whole time because once those four get going yeah especially like seth will be in a discord call with them sometimes like set zinny nade i'm like there's they're like oh jop let's watch watch party maybe a halo event or something that's going on or yeah maybe they're watching the optic team or like yeah man jup uh you know dude's doing a little watch party like i i don't know like not saying
Starting point is 01:11:45 I fuck with all of them heavily, but it's just like, those motherfuckers can yap, and I'm just not in that same, I don't even know the word, I'm not on that same wavelength of them as far as yapability. Yappability. So I just don't know if I'd fit in.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Yeah. What else I want to talk about, about the prestige? Not what we do different. Fuck, there was something else I want to talk about. Are you going to watch the Halo 2Land this weekend? I'm probably watch. Yeah, that should be fun.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Fuck. I don't remember what I was going to say about the prestige. There was something. It was like, what would you have changed? Honestly, I wouldn't have changed anything besides the sleeping. But then there's something else. Fuck. I mean, who cares?
Starting point is 01:12:36 I can't remember. Talked about it enough. Talked about it on the Optic Pub. Talked about it here. It was an amazing time. Shout out to all the communities. I mean, shit. Nate shots sub-a-thon.
Starting point is 01:12:47 That's insane. 44,000 subs. He's seven. He's a week in. That is. I mean, that's a little better than doing what we did. Well, actually, I don't know. You're by yourself.
Starting point is 01:13:01 You're by yourself running that shit. Just he has a bed behind his desktop. Yeah, that is going crazy. Still live, still cooking. and what are his hours out? Is he playing right now in the hot dog costume? He's in a hot dog costume. He's playing my tournament today in a hot dog costume.
Starting point is 01:13:23 That's great. See, I want to do something like this. Whenever I do my out and ring stream, I just need like good goals. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, yeah, you can come up with good goals, but you got to do it. It was your goal.
Starting point is 01:13:38 No, I'm going to do it. But during doing it, because it's not really a sub-a-thon. No, because that would be Once this timer runs out, I'm getting off I think, I think, but I need to have Like some kind of subgoals to make, keep it Interesting like, do you think
Starting point is 01:13:53 What do you, you think you're going to do it? When? Do you, do you have the mental fortitude to not Stop streaming? I'm thinking the end of this month, but you think you're going to do it. Do you think you're going to? I mean, I'm going to be at my house.
Starting point is 01:14:06 I can get the job done. Will I beat the game and succeed? No. Will I sit there for six days and fucking hell yet? You will? You can meet in six days. It's just, I don't know. It's going to be tough.
Starting point is 01:14:22 I am very, very excited for that. I am so excited. I will have your stream on all the time. Yeah, it's going to be tough. We'll see. To be honest, I've never really watched Eldon Ring. I've seen maybe a few clips, but I've never really, I've obviously never played it.
Starting point is 01:14:41 I'm not going to know what to expect. when I spawn in, it's like, I have no idea how the story is going to go. So I hope people are excited to see that, see that fucking side of it. Yeah, it's going to be fun. And hopefully get some, like, fun sub goals because if it's just me sitting there, like, at least me, at least have me sit there in a fucking hot dog costume or so, like, switch it up. Like, I don't want people just, I'm going to try to decorate my room a little bit.
Starting point is 01:15:07 I really want to make this, like, an event with some sub goals and keep it interesting the whole time. because there's going to be so many so much downtime and boring time and to be honest out and ring ain't my thing i don't lord knows where my viewers are going to be at like at times i might be at fucking 40 viewers it's possible so i just i don't like and that's gonna get down don't let that get you down though that's just going to motivate me to get this shit over with yeah yeah yeah exactly that's what it i mean that's how it was for us but also you got to enjoy the game too it's a beautiful game. Yeah. No, but I might try to make it as fun as I can.
Starting point is 01:15:43 I have to play getting over it. There's nothing beautiful about getting over it. It's funny. It's going to suck. I bought a heart rate monitor that I could display on stream. Which one do you buy? The one that goes across your chest. Is it the, I wonder if it's the same one I. The H-10.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Fuck. Yeah, I can't remember. Yeah. It's like a really, is the most, it was the one that they recommended the most. Amazon? Yeah. Amazon recommended. What? Yeah, they're adding Hacienda
Starting point is 01:16:17 just got announced. Really? And the Craig and the SOG are coming back. And you can't add the SOG without the Maddox. That's what Brandon said. Get Brandon on a fucking pod now. Get Brandon. Wait, which?
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah. Brandon's theory is that the developer's name is Maddox. So the Maddox has to be coming. I'm trying to look what Matti. Passienda was Ooh It's possible It is possible
Starting point is 01:16:52 Possienda Oh man If we get some good maps In this game Holy fuck this game's gonna slap Hossienda seems so random I forgot This game is gonna be fucking epic
Starting point is 01:17:03 If we get good games If we get good maps If they I heard Bruce said if they add Arsenal and frequency He will ejaculate everywhere That's what he said
Starting point is 01:17:15 Thoughts on S&D Bad mid or good Yeah, the maps Maps are bad because of the note There's no deadie Well there is daddy but it's not completely silent Because they never fucking learn Yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:17:41 Bruce is saying sound EQ wasn't an issue on console Because you couldn't fucking do PC settings and shit Today I should go home and try to figure out sound EQ Do you have Windows 11? Yeah Yes It's easy You just put on you just do two things
Starting point is 01:17:57 It takes 10 seconds You do it and it's over. I am on witness. I also, it's not letting me overclock my controller until I, like I can't get on Valerant until I change my bio settings. He knows everything.
Starting point is 01:18:14 But then I turn it on and then I get on Cod, go to overclock my controller, it won't let me overclock it because there's a secure boot is on my, so I got to go turn that, like what the fuck's going on in video games? I'm just trying to overclock my fucking controller and I got to change my
Starting point is 01:18:29 bio settings. It used to be so simple. It used to just be sent for Hold forward and shoot straight Now that says bullshit All right What time are we at? We're probably ready to go I got attorney to play in an hour Hit the liquor store beforehand
Starting point is 01:18:44 What Bruce said subscribe We got to get Bruce on the flycast All right guys Thank you so much for watching Go watch the Halo 2 land this weekend And hopefully BTH won today's tournament BtH
Starting point is 01:19:04 Matt Craig played the outro music.

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