The Flycast - THE COD DRAMA DOES NOT STOP (CENSOR, NADIA, NINJA) | The Flycast Ep. 52

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are we recording? Start recording. I feel like my fart's absorbing. I got the hardest organs. You can play them like a harper organ. I got a guitar. Man, fucking something happened, man. I lost it all.
Starting point is 00:00:19 You lost it. I lost it all. I actually had like a, I had an intro the other day for a stream. Because I've been, like, kind of not worried about, like, freestyling. So I just throw on, like, a post-malone beat. and then, like, throw the auto tune on and just, like, sing. Uh-huh. But the other day, like, I saw one of my favorite beat makers made, like, a...
Starting point is 00:00:55 Ocean? No, Ocean stopped. He retired. He retired. What the fuck he's doing now? He was, like, 17. I don't know. No.
Starting point is 00:01:03 He just stopped. Shout out Ocean. He's out there somewhere. I know he is. Ocean's the guy who made a bunch of vision beats. All the vision beats. Like, almost all of them. I would Google or I would YouTube Ocean.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Ocean right before. every vision. But yeah. So I was like, I've been doing like Post Malone Auto tune. Oh. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I hear it sometimes. I'll be throwing my ass back. I'll see random Twitter clips and stuff. Yeah. So I've been doing my ass back. Yeah. I heard definitely. I'm hoping that you would tap that.
Starting point is 00:01:43 All right, Matt. All right, Matt. All right, Matt. Have a good with my brother. I appreciate you. Say bye to Matt. Bye, Matt. Everyone in the comments right now, leave the like and say bye, man.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Jesus Christ. All right, let's just go. Anyway, what I was saying before I was rudely interrupted. Like, we were trying to start the flag cast and he just fucking kept sitting here. Like, dude. I don't know if he's going to show my PO view, but I was like, bro. Yeah, get out. But anyways, ask.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Throw ass back. Yeah, so I usually been singing about like trying to be funny and it's like failing miserably, but people still watch for some reason. And last time I played like a heavy sampled Kanye West type beat. And I actually did pretty well. Did you plan on singing? Or was it like you just heard this type of beat and you're like? Oh, well, I start my stream with this little like clip that goes, I'm sorry and I apologize for the
Starting point is 00:02:47 inconvenience of me not giving a fuck what you think and as soon as the drop hits as soon as he says fuck i play whatever beat is on my youtube home scream so i have no idea what beat is oh really yeah so you hear that and you're like oh this is like oh shit i can't sing to this was it like a old conier boom bap yeah like you actually did well yeah and i actually did well i remember do you remember like it puts it into perspective we're like we play a four minute beat back like in high high school, I would get through 30 seconds, and I'd be like, that's the best I've ever done. Yeah. And then I remember when I started streaming, I started like freestyling every day.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And I'd get to like a verse. I'd get to the chorus. And I'm like, oh my God, I was frying. And now, like, if I don't wrap the whole beat, I'm like, dude, I'm failing. Yeah. Yeah. Which is pretty dope. You say, you rhyme two to four bars.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And it's like, oh, shit. Like when I see like high school kids, like battle rappers. It's so funny. Yeah. It's so. Because they always sit there and think about a rebuttal and they're like, yo that's a sandal I'm more than you can handle
Starting point is 00:03:54 and then everybody's like oh it's so fucking if I was to say some shit like that on stream and like keep going with people like you're like what the fuck it really does take practice like I've I feel like I haven't freestyle at all and like back in the
Starting point is 00:04:08 back in the days of the H-1s and the Fortnite streams and the I was just rapping non-stop and sometimes I'd be like it'd be too three, four a.m. The entire house is asleep and I'm just playing like 1998 onyx
Starting point is 00:04:24 type beat like some hardcore hip hop. Yeah. The hippity hop type beats and I'm just going in and like afterwards I'm like oh my god. And then you look at your chat. I'm fucking amazing. And then you look at your chat and somebody's like damn. And it's just one person.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah. But in my head I'm like oh my fucking God. That's the best I've ever done. I wonder if I could like go back and find some of this How far back can you go? 30 days. So I can't find any of my old shit? No, no. Dude, man.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Unless somebody clipped it or highlighted it, people might be able to find it. I don't think so. Maybe. But I had some good ones. Like, I've had ones where I'm like, that was fucking amazing. Dude, whenever you ever, like, try to switch the flow or, like, you do, like, multiple flows at once? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Like, when you freestyle, when I hit those and they actually make sense, that's when I'm impressed with myself. Yeah. where I'm like asthma attack but I grab the inhaler grabbing it back and packing a sailor or something
Starting point is 00:05:25 like you know what I mean like when I do multiple kind of like go like in and out because that's like so I mean even what I said right there it made no sense or it's like you'll say a rhyme and then you'll rhyme
Starting point is 00:05:34 like three things in a row and then you'll just go back to the first thing you said right yeah and I'm looking at people I'm like these people these people watch I don't even get what I'm
Starting point is 00:05:43 like you guys don't even understand what you just fucking hurt You don't even know. Don't even know. I just fucking like, I don't know. They just... Speaking of, we met at the Halo event, we met Mike P.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Oh, yeah. And that was fucking dope. Mike P is a... Is a battle rapper. Yeah, he's a battle rapper. He battles for the biggest league in the world. U.R.L. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Ultimate Rap League. Ultimate Rap League. Yeah, we knew of him before we had any idea he knew of us. Yeah, true. I did. Yeah, yeah. Because he has a... He has this.
Starting point is 00:06:17 like a lot of battles a lot of battlers I mean same as kind of same as gamers like they they kind of go for their they they strive for that moment that one moment and he had him and he had his was it the hood hoodooahudan yeah
Starting point is 00:06:29 back against the wall I'll have your back against the wall like the pool sticks I'll give you everything on the move list you can get this hudukin like that whole shit like insane yeah um he lives in
Starting point is 00:06:42 he lives in her let he lives 15 minutes from the uh from the benign every time I look at you. I just think North Carolina. That's good. Yeah, it was cool meeting him. Especially, like,
Starting point is 00:06:53 I forget how we got into talking about it, but it's like, of course, anyone I come in contact with, somehow we start talking about, like, social anxiety, depression. But it's like, we talked a little bit about that. And, like, he says he has, like, he was almost like, or I think I might have said to him, like, I don't understand how you say you have,
Starting point is 00:07:17 have like social anxiety and like when you meet him he's cool but he's it's not like this like crazy outgoing person who like you can imagine on stage just going the fuck in on people you can tell he's introverted yeah you can yeah you can yeah you can um like super cool dude but it's just like I was I think I asked him like how the fuck do you get on stage and in front of thousands of people everyone's quiet they're listening to everything you do and he was just like I don't know like once I he's like he says he's more nervous just getting to that point. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Rather than like, boom, it starts and then it's like, he kind of just like forgets about it. Once you're there, I'm sure it's. And he like, try to compare it to like being on main stage.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And it's because like I would, I guess when I think about it, like, even though the main stages I used to play on, were definitely smaller. But like, there are some big crowds. But I would,
Starting point is 00:08:11 I would be more nervous just leading up to it. But once like the game starts, you're not, The crowd and shit doesn't really matter. But I feel like that's, it's different for gaming. It's got to be different for battling because. Because battle rap, you like rely on the crowd. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:08:26 You play with the crowd sort of. Like the crowd's a part of your game. It's not like when you're gaming, you're not. The crowd really means nothing. It's dope how like, I mean, obviously how knowledgeable he is. This is his profession. But like we started talking about everything and just about like how he started watching. It's a very.
Starting point is 00:08:47 He says, he thinks there's a big parallel between gaming and battling. And I think there is too. I mean, it's, it's definitely a, or e-sports in battling, because it's definitely a sub-genre of a more popular thing, which is gaming and rap. And then we play it competitively, and they rap competitively. Like, it's definitely different. Smaller crowds are, but the fan base of each is very passionate.
Starting point is 00:09:13 So there's like, I think there's a lot of, like, parallels. It makes a lot of sense, yeah. There's a lot of parallels. And so he was like, he was like, dude, this, he was like, no, this Halo event. And the Halo event was really, I'm not talking down playing the Halo event at all. There was a, the Halo crowd came out for the Orlando event. For Optic especially. He was like, this is like, this is like my summer madness.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Like, I'm like geeking out being here. And he told you that and you were like, this? I just think that's, that shit's crazy. The optic crowd came out. They always, optics just, it's like, it seems like it's every event now. Doesn't really matter the game. Doesn't matter the game. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:09:50 Because when you, I feel like when I look, or not really look, but just like online, it sort of appeared. Like, you just, you, I feel like more people have started to know a phase. 100 Thieves is super popular. So it's like online, I sort of see them. But it's like at events, I think when it comes to like the hardcore gamer ban, it's like, at events, it's fucking optic. every time. It's the, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:18 I wonder how we have that sort of fan base. Because our esports players are our contact creators. Yeah. Our, our content creators are our content creators are ex-exe sports players. So they're still like pretty tapped in, or at least they have like notoriety in, in the scene.
Starting point is 00:10:36 So when we go to Halo, we go to Halo event, I mean, you see formal on the podcast on Monday and he's competing on Thursday. It's like, that's, that's what separates. than like adapt or temper or a bank
Starting point is 00:10:49 because they none of them ever competed because phase I think phase in yeah that makes sense phasing a hundred thieves are more of rivals in that sense because you've got big names like rug and you know and jev on phase and then you got huge names like
Starting point is 00:11:04 like courage valqueray and you know people like that on the thieves side but as far as like e-sports players you know I think I still accredited it to to Nate and Seth really like having the way for that
Starting point is 00:11:19 and then just kind of like building that that optic model and you know I feel like we've done a pretty good job in capitalizing on that still going strong which is why I'm super excited for this Rocket League team you know the the uh
Starting point is 00:11:33 the Valor it shit sucked of course but uh how a lot of us internally have dealt with it is like you know fuck it there's nothing we can do absolutely nothing so we keep going and you know now we pour we keep pouring a lot of our
Starting point is 00:11:49 a lot of our resources and our time into these other teams and I can't wait to finally do that with Apex when they're back in season and you know they've shown interest in moving down here and trying to get them into some content and then also Reddles and A.J. and Magic Bear I mean they're those are
Starting point is 00:12:09 those are good guys. They're on Rocket League? Yeah okay. Because I saw Rocket League so fun to watch. Yeah I know When did we sign a Rocket League team? It just happened, right? No, when the merger happened, we had a team. But they were kind of like on the fritz and like kind of on the way out.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And like no one really knew. Apparently like the chemistry was a little off. So we picked up a brand new or we signed a brand new team like last week. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought so. And I saw what's it, Reddles? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 He's in a video tomorrow. I saw that. Yeah, Reddles is like he's like a good creation. stream's a lot. He gets a lot of viewership on stream. It's like a Rocket League creator. Makes a lot of YouTube videos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Nice. Yeah, he's a really good guy. Yeah, he's a really good guy. Yeah, I'll meet him tomorrow. Oh, you haven't met him yet? I don't think so, no. He was at? I don't meet many of the people.
Starting point is 00:13:00 He was at the baseball game. You might have met him at the baseball game in passing. I probably didn't meet him. I'm sure I saw him. Yeah. But it's like, there was not a bunch of people that just like sort of came through, but it was like, there's definitely a decent amount of people that I didn't know. of but yeah i never get like formally introduced i don't fucking i'm not social i ain't gonna
Starting point is 00:13:21 yeah that's true and i don't know like if i know it's boom this is our rocket league team and it's just like them saying and i'll like introduce myself right but it's like if it's a random person i'm not really like guessing or introducing myself but hell yeah meet him tomorrow when i go back to the to orlando shout out to the fucking halo team fucking thank god God, bro. Insane. They went through so, like, we've said about it on podcasts. I've talked about it on podcast how it's like, our Halo team really is like masterful online.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah. And they, and I mean, they only went to one event, but it's like they had this shit just held over them this whole time. Held over that. And to keep the composure for, it's been like six months for, they're just sort of winning online. They're winning all their scrims. They're kind of dominating. And that's so much pressure, some teams don't even want to be that team
Starting point is 00:14:20 because it's so much pressure when you get to the event. Yeah. But they held it together. They fucking... That show was so... It was so dope to see live. A masterful performance by the Halo team. That might be one of the most perfect...
Starting point is 00:14:36 I mean, as far as optic teams in general, that might be one of the most perfect I've ever seen an optic team play. I mean, it reminded me of Black Ops 3 like AW sometimes There was never really like that
Starting point is 00:14:49 like uh oh there was never really like a uh oh oh oh dude as soon as they spawned in and grants because Clutch says Clutch comes with me and goes yo by the way this is this is losers finals
Starting point is 00:15:01 which is the same thing that Merck said to me in Major 1 by the way he goes yo you by the way you don't want Cloud 9 to win this because it was Cloud 9 phase
Starting point is 00:15:12 right you don't want Cloud 9 to win this because the cloud 9 nine wins this you know they're gonna be you guys which is what murk said to me about phase in major one and then boom they spawn in and and it was just like almost dominant like right out the gate and i was like oh we're we're winning this whole thing i didn't want to say anything but yeah yeah i remember we were sitting in the crowd i forget what i even said but you're like shut up oh yeah i forget what the fuck i said though but you're just like no no stop it but yeah fucking roger rager sends me
Starting point is 00:15:44 the championship graphic and it's like while we're still playing it says do you like for approval do you like this and I'm like don't see that shit
Starting point is 00:15:52 don't even make that but I mean you have delete that start making it right when it's over right fucking you know the crowd was for us
Starting point is 00:16:03 100% uh APG got his I'd love seeing APG got his chant I don't even know if they like showed any of that on stream
Starting point is 00:16:11 or if stream got it or not but the smirk yeah I think they showed it, yeah. I forget, what was it for? So they did like a, they did like a segment for him, uh, for, for like media day and they played it, they played it, uh, during finals. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And so then the crowd started cheering, cheating, or cheering MVP or MVP. I think they were cheering MVP. And, uh, he could hear, he could hear the segment going off. Like, so he knew they were playing his part and then they heard the crowd cheering and the, camera was right next to his face. So then he just, he tried to, he tried to act hard and stay locked in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I know I started screaming, APG. And he fucking smirked. He was so happy. Fuck yeah. What a guy. And then, dude, people don't realize APG.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Like, he, like, looks young. He fits in with everyone, like, yeah. But he has been going to events since 2006. That is insane. 16 years.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Winning. Kind of. he's been performing very well at events for 16 years yeah like that is fucking insane that's longer has he won that has to be the longest in esports history like there's no one that can no one has been in longer not in shooters maybe yeah fuck there's some i mean there's some but are they still on top because there's people that have still been that have been in gaming not many i will say he's One of five. Because ABG, I think in 2000, by 2008 he was placing top eight.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I think early 2009. The only other, he was getting top three. The only esports that I know that have been around that long are like Counterstrike, Smash, Halo. But like, was someone getting top three in 2006, 2007, and they win an event in 2022? That's insane. That's a crazy thing to say. I don't know when Mango started
Starting point is 00:18:16 But Manga just won an event So I can see when he started Is that a Smash player Smash player yeah And I know I bring up Smash so much Because I'm so like Because we're about to throw a Smash tournament
Starting point is 00:18:26 So I'm like so involved with it right now And he was competing back in fucking Yeah and I just know I know like relative I know relatively the history of That's crazy Of of Smash and they They they play a GameCube game
Starting point is 00:18:41 The game came out in 2002 So who knows like when like actually actual tournament started in like 2004 yeah I think abg in 2000 late 2006 I think he got like top 32 pro and f f f f a and he was like 13 years old that is crazy I have uh wouldn't be able to find it right now but I have a fucking picture from him way back then he looks he's so goofy I would love to if we could flash that up right now I'm not gonna do that though no I don't do that too he'd be pissed he's just a goofy little kid I remember like
Starting point is 00:19:13 meeting his mom back then and shit fucking taking them to events but hell yeah congrats to the halo team man it's great yeah and also i'm super happy and proud of do you get weird when you say you're proud of people especially like your peers you don't i always like get weird because i don't want it to come across if i'm genuinely proud of them now right i don't want it to come across as like condescending like i'm proud of you like you know like it's english is so weird but the way you just said right that's the way you just said it sounds condescending right but if i'm like genuinely I'm genuinely like proud of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Of Lucid and Trippy because that's their first chip. Yeah. That's crazy that there's their, that's their first chip too good. Yeah. Because they're too good. There's so many good Halo players out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Especially like, like they're, you know, they're a duo and, you know, Trippy does a lot of the dirty work, but goes, goes off a lot of the time.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And then, Lucid's just like, this game comes out and it's just like, it's crazy how that, how that happens. Bro, I remember playing Lucid in a split gate tournament before Halo Infinite
Starting point is 00:20:18 even came out when Splitgate was like popping for a little bit and he's just fucking dominating. I think we played him. I think we played him or maybe I just matched his team in matchmaking before
Starting point is 00:20:29 and it was just like, is that when you were playing with like me and able methodsuma or something? And we just got dog by because it was like half creators and then half of like the pros that or pros who aren't pros
Starting point is 00:20:43 or maybe they're pros I don't even know if there's a tournament but it's like the grinders that have been grinding split gate they're known in split gate nobody fucking likes it half creators versus these guys and I was like
Starting point is 00:20:54 I was like wait a fucking second like I actually got pissed I was like why the fuck did we play in this shit like the top four teams left I don't even remember how many teams were in it but like the four teams left or what do you know
Starting point is 00:21:06 the four people that actually play the fucking game it's like why the like this isn't helping split gate. Like people would rather see me, Zuma methods and enable and battling to get to the finals than
Starting point is 00:21:20 four people. Yeah, than fucking fighting these guys. But yeah, I remember playing Lucent and Splitgate. He was just dominating. I don't really know too much about him in Halo 5, but I'm assuming he was, I assume that's how Ola found them, right? Matchmaking or
Starting point is 00:21:35 or they were like up and comers and they were like, he was like, I remember him saying like I found these two and I was like, Oh shit, y'all can carry me for a few years. Yeah. And when Ola fucking spots you. Yeah. You know, there's something there.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I hope Ola's doing all right, man. He's, he always, this is, he broke his arm once in Halo 5 or something like that. And then he just disappears. Yeah, he just dips. He's never chilling in a discord call or like. Yeah. People think there's this one guy in matchmaking that everyone thinks is pistola. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:11 Because he just like always plays good. He's like one of the top ranks, but never has spoken a word. No one knows who he is. Always searches by himself. That's dope. And everyone just says this is Ola. That's kind of dope. We don't know if it is Ola.
Starting point is 00:22:23 A little demon out there. Yeah. Could be Ola. Or it's just imagine, does it have to be Ola? Because if it wasn't Ola, you would think this guy would want to be like, no, this is me. Right. Here's my Twitter. Please, team with me.
Starting point is 00:22:38 But do people say it to his face? like do they get in the game and they're like yo Ola I think because I've even heard it like in my chat was saying shit so I was like is this known like people are like you match with Ola you match with Ola and I was like wait is this really Ola and they were like oh we don't fucking know but that's kind of dope and like other people it's something that's something Ola would deal
Starting point is 00:23:00 because he's just like a good you would do your little crackhead that is something I did but it's not actually I did kind of did you do that just to smurf Because you would get up to 50 and then go restart? Yeah, I was too high of a rank, and then I would get too high of a rank, and then I'd make a new account.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And it was also just fun making new accounts and, like, making up random names. And, like, people would actually believe I'm like just some fucking random kid playing. Like, I had this one gamer tag called Mallor Kid, because in Halo 3 there was a weapon called a Mahler. And I would purposely just get dual mallors, which no one fucking does. And I would just use Mueller and I would just, and like, I actually played on it so much.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It, like, started getting known. Like, people were like, oh, my God, I fucking hate this kid. Or, like, they betray me. And I'm, like, getting hated on on, like, second tags because people actually think I'm a random person. Or this one kid,
Starting point is 00:23:57 Wiley Coyote, somehow, some way, he changed his name, he changed his gamer tag for, like, I've randomly put in, because it's, like,
Starting point is 00:24:07 W-I-L, and I just put, I think I tried W. Coyote, and it worked, because I was going to do WIII and just completely steal his gamer tag. I have people think I'm him and just fucking troll and ruin his name. You're a psycho. Because I don't fucking know. I was just so bored and I thought it would be funny.
Starting point is 00:24:28 But I put in his gamer tag and I actually got it. And I was like, or no, his gamer tag was the one WII because someone had the original. Oh, okay. So people actually, like he changed his gamer tag like an hour before. and I just somehow, some way fucking took his gamer tag
Starting point is 00:24:45 and so I was playing on that and everyone thought it was the real Wiley Coyote because it was literally the gamer tag he just changed him. But yeah, I would just troll people on that. Like people would betray me because he was already like, not hated, but like, bro, I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:25:02 Halo 3 in 2020 was so fucking toxic. No one played to win. It was a fucking shit show. but like betrayals every game someone's quitting someone's AFK like it was such a shit show but it was like and you played against the same people all the time
Starting point is 00:25:19 because the population was so small but it was like it was almost I don't know it was fun but yeah so so you played matchmaking like exclusively or did you play money aides and shit like that? I would play money money eights would sort of happen
Starting point is 00:25:33 on weekends sometimes I probably still owe people money I would just I would just disappear and go sleep forever. And I would play eight hours worth of money. Like we had a whole crackhead fucking squad that would play from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. And then sometimes we would even stay up and then everyone would get back on at like noon. So it's like we're ending at like 7 a.m.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And then it's but like by noon 1 p.m. People were waking up again and we're getting it started. You're going again. And I haven't slept. Were there times during those like grind sessions where you would do something in and you were like like you would play like really well yeah like getting overkill or something
Starting point is 00:26:14 you're going crazy yeah I had a few of those moments but I'm telling you man I for a while I thought I was going crazy and I was like bro this like something like something's wrong with my internet I change I'm not gonna I think I broke my computer by changing my settings so much I mean I would change them after every single game like going to Nvidia
Starting point is 00:26:34 try different shit different fucking resolutions different hurts that I'm playing on but I would change my setting so much and like I would always leave my PC on and I'm pretty sure I fucked my PC but my internet was fucked up as well like I would always test it it was always be random random high ping
Starting point is 00:26:55 um so I dealt with so much like stress from that that like I would like since I went since I moved from there not a single time if I've been playing online and been like what the fuck man I'm fucking like, but when I was playing at my old apartment, it was every single day. But you've also been sober since then, so maybe that has something. I know, man.
Starting point is 00:27:15 But it's like, it's like, I know I was crazy, but I look back and like something was fucking wrong. Something was fucking wrong. I think it was a, I think it was my internet at first. But I was like, I didn't know exactly what it was. So I'd just keep changing my settings,
Starting point is 00:27:31 thinking like, okay, this feels decent. Then eventually it wouldn't feel decent, but like my internet would spike. So it's like, I don't, know what the fuck's wrong so I I wish I didn't I swear I had problems I could have been bad shit insane I like I could have just been been a complete idiot there's like because there's parts when I was like you know playing a lot of a lot of respawn at the same time like I'm like hyper aware of too much shit yeah and you pick it everything that's what I was doing
Starting point is 00:28:04 yeah you do so I like I like love the arena like I love getting I was playing Cold War like league play the other day and I was like yo this shit's like like respawned like I obviously S&D is like that's our thing and like that's what we do and it is a lot
Starting point is 00:28:22 of fun but like getting in that like quote unquote flow state when you're in when you're in like an arena shooter is the best feeling I can't do S&D I never could do S&D because like I'm I don't know I just never got good at S&D.
Starting point is 00:28:39 It was, I'm going fucking four and seven or something. And I'm just like, bro, I can't, like, like, okay,
Starting point is 00:28:47 I'm going in first. He's weak. I'm dead. Now I sit here for a minute and a half. And I'm like, and when I'm cracked the fuck out, it's like, I need to fucking,
Starting point is 00:28:55 I'm not warm, like, I need to move, I need to warm up. I want to shoot. I loved Hard Point in Call of Duty. Or any,
Starting point is 00:29:02 capture the flag, whatever the fuck else there was. Yeah. I loved all the respawn. game modes and cod there's some i mean it's i don't i don't play them that much anymore because i stopped playing variant i stopped playing at all like whenever the jet packs came out and then ever since then there really hasn't been a good like respawn game it's funny when jet packs were out how much people were shitting on them and now it's like looking back at it it's like that'd be kind of fun to
Starting point is 00:29:29 go back and play yeah yeah it's just because they i feel like whenever when after they got done with jet packs they just kind of like stopped making call of duties they started making something else like it it wasn't called it wasn't like cod anymore because like cod to me i think cod to me for the rest of my life will be cod for through ghosts like that's cod to me and then the jetbacks came out and i was like okay they're trying to switch it up and then it came back in world war two but it was still like there weren't traditional perks and you know it was kind of cod but not really What was after Black Ops 3? I would say that's kind of when I just stopped.
Starting point is 00:30:12 IW? Complete. IW is, was it AW, then Black Ops 3? Then IW? Yeah. IW is okay, right? I'm sure everyone hated it at the time, but. I mean, it was, that's, they were just, I think, when A.W comes out and then Black
Starting point is 00:30:31 Up's 3 comes out, I think the, the, the, the, the majority of the public is kind of yearning for that classic call of duty feel. And then it comes out. And then they, they had already worked on IW forever. So they doubled down, not purposefully, because it's, it has to be like three years in the making. They didn't know that the community was going to be an outcry. The kind of, they say, I say they didn't know, but they fucking, they have to know.
Starting point is 00:30:59 they make call of duty for a living you gotta think that people want to play call of duty I mean same shit with Halo like I feel like there's so many so much shit that people were like saying they don't want they want this and they want that but it's like
Starting point is 00:31:15 I think they already have what they're gonna do set in stone and like they try to have faith and I think people what is this your water? Yeah I think I'm about a drink that water
Starting point is 00:31:27 oh shit I'm sick I would not Yeah, guys, I'm sick right now. We're supposed to do this Friday. I even have a... I got a doctor's note. Hex texted me like last Friday. It was like, I'm going to start expecting doctor's notes out of view or something like that. I'm like, trust me, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I'm sick. It's... I couldn't imagine having... I tested negative for strep throat, but I couldn't imagine being any fucking closer. It was bad. I remember waking up at like 5 a.m. and just being like... my throat was on fire.
Starting point is 00:32:01 It hurts so bad to swallow. Then I went to urgent care, blah, blah, blah. They were like, yeah, you probably shouldn't be around people for a few days. Like wait till you feel better. We'll write you a work note or something. They were like, you got to do anything? And I was like, yeah, I'm supposed to do something like Monday and Tuesday. Like, well, I don't know if you should be around people until then.
Starting point is 00:32:22 But I was like, bro, I can't. Like, I already, I didn't show up Thursday or Friday. And I don't think anyone believes me to show up today, but hopefully no one gets sick. Anyways, call of duty. What did I want to say? Oh, Black O, Black O'clock was the last. Bro, I used to love when we were in the scuff house and we would sometimes rarely, no one really wanted to do it. Everyone sort of like the S&D, but sometimes we'd play like GBs or we'd play in a tournament.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And with like response. used to love playing. I hated S&Ds, but playing respawns was so fun. We played, I remember one time, like, nobody played Black Ups 3 really besides Pumage and obviously Seth. And it was me, Pommage, you and Seth, we were playing 4V4 GBs. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:33:17 That was the fucking, that's the, that's the memory for me. See, I didn't know that. That's a memory for me. I didn't know the rotations. I didn't know, I mean, I had watched it all year, but I still didn't know like the rotation. So we spawn in and we lose a breach hard point and I pull up the scoreboard. Well, at first I hear Seth go, well, I don't know what else you really guys want for me.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And I put the scoreboard. He had 70 kills. And we lose. And we lost. And I remember thinking like, fuck, man. Like, I'm supposed to be good. You know what I mean? Like, I'm supposed to be good at God.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I'm probably just, for one, I'm pissed off because I know Seth's just sitting there fucking. semi annoyed or something yeah but I'm also like I'm on Addy I'm just I'm just having fun I'm like this is what I like right here playing some fucking respawn yeah I mean
Starting point is 00:34:11 respawn I never I just hated AW so much that I never really gave the rest of the the jet packs a chance but I do wish I would have played blockups three more oh damn this was your water I got three waters over here
Starting point is 00:34:28 I played Black Ops 3 a little bit That was the one you run on walls, right? Yeah See, I hated the running on walls thing And that's what I think can hate anything Anything that's new just I don't hate everything that's new Because I hated
Starting point is 00:34:41 Halo 4 I hated Halo 4 was fucking stupid I hated Halo 5 You didn't even get zoomed out Halo 5 was decent But it felt like dog shit
Starting point is 00:34:54 It was the worst feeling Halo I've ever played And ever will play but Halo Infinite, I think it's fucking great. I think it's great. It's hard, man. It's hard to fucking.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I think the issues with Halo 4 don't, or Halo Infinite don't have to do with the gameplay. I don't think it has to do with the bones of the game. I think there are very strong roots of Halo Infinite, and everything else that's been fucked up has been fallen on the path of the game or the developers or like,
Starting point is 00:35:28 not the developers are like, you know, just not, just unable to keep, keep the interest. Yeah. I don't,
Starting point is 00:35:36 Halo Infinite does not feel bad at all. Like, it feels good to play. It's pretty smooth. I mean, there is some fucking the servers and stuff. And sometimes it's like,
Starting point is 00:35:46 what the fuck am I playing? Yeah. But that doesn't happen too often. Halo 5 felt fucking terrible. But it was an overall good. See, It wasn't Halo to me, though. Good game.
Starting point is 00:35:57 To spawn with the pistol start. The pistol took skill and it was, it felt good to, there was a certain feeling. It was almost like in Halo 3 when you got a four shot. Yeah. Like it was almost that feeling
Starting point is 00:36:11 when you got a perfect with the pistol. But I mean, when I played Halo 5, like, I complained about it all the time. But I complained about how it felt like shit. See, it didn't, as far as like a spectator's,
Starting point is 00:36:23 spectators start, like, or a spectator like pistol start is just like it's just yeah it's like why are you shooting a pistol this is halo yeah I uh there's a video because I've been watching a lot of old school games because we're throwing this like throwback um charity event upcoming and so I've been watching a lot of throwback games and there's a game a video that came up that said satisfying clips from every halo so I was just watching it it is it's a crazy it's been a crazy journey for halo it really has been
Starting point is 00:36:54 like going from like it starts with you know halo CE and then and then by the time you get to what in MCC like what is it H2H2A it's like holy shit like it's crazy how much it's like evolved over the time and when you see people in like Halo 1 and Halo 2 shoot and you realize oh shit they're using an Xbox original controller You can just tell, like, how... That's why it's, like...
Starting point is 00:37:25 Janky at all this. Getting the four shot in the original Halo 3, not really... An MCC... HALO 3, and everyone's playing on their PCs. Like, it's, like... It almost became so easy, and, like, you could shoot across maps super well.
Starting point is 00:37:40 So, the dynamics sort of changed, and then they did an update to buff that even more, like, mid-fucking MCC... Yeah. Season or whatever. So it definitely became different, but, like, the...
Starting point is 00:37:53 original Halo 3, getting the 4 shot was a great feeling. I'm sure in every sort of games sort of had that. Halo 4 didn't, I don't think. I don't know if there was a good feeling in Halo 4. You didn't even get unzoned. You were just permanently
Starting point is 00:38:09 zoomed in. Even outside of that, if you look, everyone watching this is you know anything about Halo. Go watch a Halo 4 clip. There aren't any. Every single map, the sun is bright as fuck.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Really? I forget. Every gun sounds like you're banging a tin can against a metal wall. It's like Kachin, k-ch-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-it. It's like when you shoot a BR, you expect a
Starting point is 00:38:35 br-d-d-r-d-d-l-d- And then when you shoot a piss or a snipe, you expect a like really like heavy shit. Dude, the piss... I'm gonna play the Halo 4 snipe right now.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Actually, I have no, I have no reception. Dude, the Halo 4-Snyp It sounds like, ting. Really? It's, it's, like, disgusting. It's like, disgusting is a good word for it. Halo 4 was probably my least Halo, least played Halo. I bet you people forget the Halo 4 is a game.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Halo 4 was bad. And the thing is, it's like, that was 3-4-3's, like, first introduction. That sucks. Yeah. And ever since then, people were, like, not Team 343. That really sucks. Because they kind of, they sort of clutched up. Halo reached, there was, like, sports.
Starting point is 00:39:22 print and bloom which I ain't gonna lie Bungy kind of fucking choked that shit was kind of trash Yeah that was really good But it was still something about the game It still felt sort of The maps
Starting point is 00:39:32 The maps were really good Because it was still sort of the same old Like Yeah symmetrical Snipe on this side Snipe on that side So that was still good
Starting point is 00:39:43 Which Halo Infinite needs to Fucking work on that Yeah I don't know how we still don't have A fucking map With the snipe on each side Like that is
Starting point is 00:39:52 one of the that's one of the most legendary moments parts of Halo growing up is seeing hysteria has a sniper on this side
Starting point is 00:40:02 snipe down as sniped down as the form was yeah who's gonna Roy has a snipe on this I mean you think that's why you think
Starting point is 00:40:08 when I think Halo maps I think pit I think sanctuary narrows I think narrows and those there's a snipe
Starting point is 00:40:16 on both sides of narrows right yeah okay I couldn't remember I mean I never played Halo 3 only played reach but
Starting point is 00:40:22 I mean, those are the fucking Those are the moment Yeah, those are the great parts of it. So, hey, what if they add another shock rifle to what is it? What if they added a shock rifle and where the sword is supposed to spawn
Starting point is 00:40:36 in that map with all the... I just don't like the map, like, for... I mean, I don't know. Two shock rifles, like, if one team had both shock rifles, that would be... Because the shock rifles got like
Starting point is 00:40:52 up close like in halo it's sort of like the snipe can be good up close but it's usually just like if the team's pushing you it's sort of like put the snipe away and shoot your br yeah but in halo infinite it's like the team's pushing you you're you can still easily no especially on land you like the shock rifle you like snipe oh oh oh but even with the snipe it seems like it seems like people use the snipe a lot different now than they use it in halo three and halo back it's I think it's just easier on PC because like back in the day when there was input delay
Starting point is 00:41:24 the monitors weren't as good you definitely couldn't know it was like if a team's pushing you you sort of put people would get pissed at the people who like would try to no scope do no damage miss the no scopes and then die so it was like
Starting point is 00:41:37 it was a thing to like oh shit they're on our ass put the snipe away pull out your VR try to do damage that's a lot but yeah I think but nowadays like Matt grabs Rossi sort of changed
Starting point is 00:41:49 Oh, did it? So it took that long? Halo 5 when Frosty would just think of what Coliseum? I think their strat was like Frosty would slide in, grab snipe, go for the no scope. I mean, I think that's when he, that wasn't, that was at Worlds, right? Frosty Offspawn. Is that when he fucking brought it out? Is that when they decided to bring that Strat?
Starting point is 00:42:08 I think it was at Worlds. It was either at Worlds or it was one of those like ESL events. I think ESLs. But Frosty Grapp, Frosty Offspawn, everybody has pistol. Does fucking crazy shotsy movement Goes over to the The right side of the map Grabs the snipe
Starting point is 00:42:26 And Mid mid like what was it called Like when you're like it basically slide cancel Type beat Slid jumped grabs snite No scopes hoops Throcks fucking No scopes hook in the head
Starting point is 00:42:39 And I remember thinking like what the fuck did I just Like that shit doesn't I think because normally people Go to both sides of the bridge They're peeking each other with pistols Or, you know, nating, you get that guy down, then you go grab the snake. The winner of that battle will get snip.
Starting point is 00:42:57 But no, they switch it up. I remember talking to PJ about it. And he was like, he was like, yeah, like before the round, Brad just goes, I'm going to go get snipe and snipe hook. And then we'll have snipe. And he goes, he was like, when somebody calls something like that, you can't say like. Especially Frosty and Halo 5.
Starting point is 00:43:16 You can't say no. Yeah. It's like you're better than me So He's like He's like and then I You know I go off spawn and I look in the kill feed
Starting point is 00:43:25 And it says It says the headshot symbol Frosty and Hooke And he's just like what the fuck just happened And the crowd's going ape shit Yeah And then it's now it changed the PCs And people
Starting point is 00:43:36 Like it used to sort of be like A There were like the sniper people Were like slower sort of players And now it's just like It's almost like The players are so good It's like everyone can fucking
Starting point is 00:43:47 use it now. Everyone's cracked. That's how I feel about Cod. I mean, everyone's fucking cracked. In the CW, not even priests, in the MLG days,
Starting point is 00:43:56 it was not too crazy to see someone drop, to see one person drop like a 50. Like, I think of like Seth and Blackups, I think of Seth and Blackups 2. I think of like aches and teep in,
Starting point is 00:44:09 in ghosts or even in the jetpack era. I mean, I think there was a, there was a map on retreat. I can't remember. remember who they were playing but Matt dropped a 60 and it's like that shit doesn't happen anymore they shot or formal formal it was like that doesn't that shit does not happen anymore it's just because and I think some of it has to do with like how with the franchise with franchising and like there's only 12
Starting point is 00:44:33 teams and you know there's not and there's enough there's enough cracked players to fill up those 12 teams where one team is not absolutely getting demolished like even even even Paris Legion a lot while they were playing, but they weren't getting like choke slammed. Like, in my opinion, like, like not like it was back in the day. And it still kind of is like that in Halo. Even in Halo, fucking teams would,
Starting point is 00:45:01 back in the day, teams would get choke slammed. But it's like main stage teams. Yeah, it'd be like a top 16 or top 12 team is playing fucking instinct and it's just a fucking slaughter. It still kind of is, I think, I think Halo is, one of the most team-based game, like, you can... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I mean, the best European team flies over, plays optic, man-handled. Yeah. Dude, it's the... It's funny because we were talking about it and we were like, where are we in the bracket? And we're like, we're in top four. And then you're like, who's still in it? And I'm like, you know who's in it.
Starting point is 00:45:39 The top four is in it. Like, unless sniped down and I didn't upset somebody, everyone knows the top four. Yeah. Everyone knows the top four going into it. And that doesn't, I feel like that doesn't happen anymore. That doesn't happen in most e-sports. But Halo is still holding on.
Starting point is 00:45:54 They still have just enough teams that are so much better than everyone else that you already know who the top four is going in. And it's like those players, even if a change is sort of made, it's kind of they all, it's just, they're just cycling. They're just cycling the same. Unless somebody gets knocked out and like, you know, like, I think it's wild that snipe down's not in the top, well, not on the top four. I just don't know if Snipe Down's like mentality or I don't know how good, I don't know if Snipdown's that,
Starting point is 00:46:25 I don't know if Snipedown's Snipedown anymore on this Halo. On this Halo or just Halo in general? I mean, I don't watch enough scrims. I don't really know. I feel like I've heard some things. All Snip Down is done is complain about the game. He scrims and then gets on APEC. So it's just like it kind of makes sense.
Starting point is 00:46:45 he's always sort of been a slower not a slower basic player because it's like it's hard to fucking knock snipe down at all because he's always been on top he transitions to apex
Starting point is 00:47:01 he's on top over there somehow and it's just like so he knows what it takes I'm very surprised he I mean but he's never been like a he's never had a shot see in him like you never see him sort of fucking oh yeah like he's
Starting point is 00:47:15 pretty, I don't know the fucking word. I don't want to use basic because Snipe Down's greater than basic but his shot's always been one of the best but he's never... Like methodical? He plays like Royal 2ish. Yeah, he's methodical, he's slower. His shot's always been
Starting point is 00:47:31 on point but he's never had that new gen. He's not really up with the new gen fucking, but I don't know if you really need that. Dude, there's... So I'm transparency, I was plastered during grand finals.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Like, we were drinking. Yeah, I was true. So the boys win. I'm hype as hell. And I tweet out, what were y'all saying about online? Like, just fucking, yeah, of course. Stir in the pot a little bit. And so obviously people start tagging TJ
Starting point is 00:48:03 because they still don't get that TJ's a fucking massive troll. And he knows how to get under everyone's skin. And people still allow him to get under everyone's skin. And so I see him at the ball. bar later that night and he's drunk and he comes up and he like hugs me tough course he hugs me and he's he's been doing this for 12 years hugs me and he's like you know you know I saw your tweet that said what were you guys saying about online and I can answer that and I was like all right answer it he was like what I was saying is that optic is really good online and dog shit on land and they'll never
Starting point is 00:48:38 win an event yeah yeah yeah we know that's exactly we started fucking We started laughing. That was sort of everyone's mindset. That's why I was like, especially when there was that long of a break, and it's like they don't have like events and events and events to like keep trying to win. It was like that fucking, it was a big deal they won because that literally, TJ saying that it's like that kind of not was everyone's mindset. Everyone sort of like even when you saw the casters sort of make their. predictions. Like some people had Optic winning
Starting point is 00:49:18 so it's like people, they knew like it was bound to fucking happen. At least I was telling myself like it's gonna happen. Like it has to. Yeah. And they were definitely good enough to and they've proved it online
Starting point is 00:49:30 but it was just like a matter of time because I think like that sort of was some people said they were like Sentinels or C9 really. Yeah. It's gonna win. I would love to roll. I would love to roll deep in at Worlds.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Worlds is like like other than I mean, I was going to say this is like one of the, like the most likely opportunities we have to win a world event, a world championship again. Because we only have two as an org. And I thought we were about to get another one with the Val, with the Val team. I swear there were no events this year. For Halo? Halo.
Starting point is 00:50:06 There weren't. What the fuck? There was Raleigh. There was what, three events and worlds? Raleigh and then. Casey. Casey was like a No one was there
Starting point is 00:50:16 It wasn't an open Raleigh Casey Orlando then Worlds Yeah Yeah What the fuck So you're going to Worlds I'm going to Worlds
Starting point is 00:50:28 How long is Worlds Is this like Call of Duty where it starts On a fucking Tuesday And you're there until Next Monday night It's an MLG event It's a bam bam bam
Starting point is 00:50:39 Everything happens How many teams are there Isn't it an open It's not an open? It shouldn't be I mean, yeah, it shouldn't be. Actually, yeah, you might be right, because Worlds has always been like a qualifying thing.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I don't know. Hopefully not. I just think from my perspective, it's just because, of course, I never got to go to fucking Worlds. Right when they come out with a Worlds for Halo, the insane prize money, oh, magically not in fucking top eight.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Boom, kicked off, boom. Got a content creator, blah, blah, blah. Here we are. Let's get our, um, let's get our clickbait type. title. Shit. Doug Sensor Martin, Nadia.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Fuck, man. I had to bring this up. This fucking dude. I even told Matt Craig before it started, I was like, I don't really have shit to say, but there's one thing that pissed me off recently. Then it's the fucking Doug Sensor Martin, Nadia shit. Holy fuck. Thoughts?
Starting point is 00:51:39 This fucking guy. I was on the, I was on the flank when he came in and said, I have, I have unconsuret. covered a dude man what the fuck i have uncovered with this guy a way to tell if anyone is cheating and i'm like all right and i told my chat i'll believe it when i see it
Starting point is 00:51:58 that the night you said the flank's not gonna let you back on or something i think i saw a clip or something yeah yeah blake and i weren't so he comes in the flank says that says i guess should we in case anyone here listening doesn't now okay so jubed down the situation yeah here's a situation breakdown
Starting point is 00:52:15 Doug Sensor Martin Gotta say the name Doug Sensor Martin Figures out or works with a guy And claims he has figured out a way to Penetrate the hacker websites Where people go on and buy cheats And can find out
Starting point is 00:52:34 Based off of Activision IDs Who has bought cheats and use them on their account So everyone in the world is thinking Oh shit If this is the case Does he go in the flank and say this? Or does he tweet about it first? He tweets vague shit and then comes on the flank and explains exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah, okay. So everyone in the entire planet Earth thinks, holy shit. Finally. Someone's going to. Doug censor Martin is going to save the fucking detective Doug. He's going to save the day. Not only is he going to save the day and find out exactly who is. cheating he's also gonna expose these idiot ass fucking dumb ass
Starting point is 00:53:21 YouTubers that click bait everyone's name and says everyone's cheating because they're brainwashing their fucking Their viewer base and making everyone feel bad about or better about themselves because they're all dog shit And I I know the fucking BBB guy and there's another one that do that shit and it's just the cringiest it might be the It might be, I've seen a lot of cringy shit. I don't know anything about them. I've seen a lot of cringy shit happen on the internet. That might be, that might top everything. It's fucking horrendously disgusting.
Starting point is 00:53:56 But, so I'm like, here's Doug Sincor Martin and this guy named X. The thing is, why was it with Doug? It's like, I believed him. I was like, something's coming here. Bro, he takes this program and I'm like, okay, so the first person, everyone is asking him to look up as Nadi. And then everyone else after that is like, got to look up Z-Laynor, got to look up Joe Wo and Aiden and all this, all these guys. What does Doug do?
Starting point is 00:54:26 He goes and he checks the top 250 ranked play kids on Call of Duty Vanguard. The people he has beef with. The people he has beef with. Because he's- The people he's battling and ranked. Because he's still playing Vanguard ranked for some reason. I don't understand. But still, I would do it as well.
Starting point is 00:54:50 But I'm also... But you would also... You would also use it for... For, at least claim the energy of like, you know, you know who everyone else wants to see. Well, it's even him saying that out, even him saying what he was going to do and what he...
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah, what he was going to do, he, like, you know, he can get this info. Everyone... He's putting that out there, and I don't know if he, like, mentioned names, but it's like, everyone knows. It's like, okay, Nadia, these other people. Yeah. Like, okay, what's it going to be? And then, so he starts, he starts doing what Doug always does, and click baits, kids, everyone's attention.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Doug is really good. For a few days. Doug is really good at getting everyone's attention. So he says, I found this hacker, I can penetrate the program where we can see who all is hacking. I'm going to find out everything I need to know about Nadia. And that gets everybody's attention. Because that gets into every, like it's in the Warzone community, the Cod community. Now big names like Ninja are you even talking about it.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Like fucking Doc's talking about it. Nick Merck's talking about it. And like the whole community at this point is like, all right. This is it. Let's see it, Doug. And he's making little subtle shit. Like you, he didn't say like you guys aren't. gonna believe this but it was almost like
Starting point is 00:56:15 you guys aren't gonna believe this like he gets on there and he goes I'm having second thoughts about this video I don't know if I should even make this video and then all of a sudden rendering now it's coming out and it's the trolleest shit I've ever fucking seen
Starting point is 00:56:31 I didn't even watch the whole thing I didn't either I watched the clip everyone was talking about he says I am gonna expose you or whatever drives up in a jet ski and gets down on one knee and proposes to Nadia, who is, I think,
Starting point is 00:56:48 a lesbian? And I think... She said something like that. Regardless of that, what the... What? Dude. I don't know, Doug.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I don't know, man. It's hard to fucking defend you, well. I want to just say this. I like Doug. No problem with Doug. Have absolutely no problem with Doug. I actually love Doug's mentality. He gets so much hate.
Starting point is 00:57:13 how he responds to the hate he still is like you know he's trying to like come back to the make it back to the top one cod he always has a positive mindset he has a great routine he works out he eats healthy he he sort of like inspires
Starting point is 00:57:29 me to at least like Doug's doing I need to fucking get on this routine shit he's fucking working out yoga shirt's off he shredded and the way I see him respond to hate it's like I have nothing against Doug but this shit
Starting point is 00:57:43 you can't defend this you can't defend this and it's like what was it was it him knowing he didn't have anything it's that's there's no way but it's like which makes me think she's legit it makes me think she's legit
Starting point is 00:57:58 but it's like did he truly think he found something and was gonna expose or did he like oh there's this program all right I guarantee some of these people but he's like oh shit no one's fucking no one's fucking cheating either Doug trolled everyone there was never a program
Starting point is 00:58:15 what's fucking what's worse it's like acting what's worse just straight up trolling and then making this video or like thinking you're truly going to expose someone and then you're like fuck I don't got nothing and then being like I got to come up with something
Starting point is 00:58:30 and then like coming up with this fucking troll video I don't know what's fucking worse what if what if this ex what if this ex guy is trolling Doug and Doug bought it and then Doug told everyone and then the dude who trolled Doug is like oh shit I'm in too deep because I don't think any no one's been exposed
Starting point is 00:58:49 he said he was going to take down everyone and no one is not a single fucking soul so it's like was this a it can't be a troll from the beginning man it can't be a troll there's no way he has I don't know I don't know how I don't know how method Doug is such a fucking acting it's it just wasn't and now Doug and San Antonio and I don't I hate being a hater
Starting point is 00:59:11 but this I got a hate on it I will openly hate on it it was I and I hate the word cringe but this shit was cringe it wasn't funny and I'm sorry I don't yeah I don't even like what I'm saying right now I don't know and I don't like talking about it publicly
Starting point is 00:59:27 this is some shit me informal we'll talk about secretively be like bro what the fuck was that like what did we would like laugh about it about but it's like I don't know we're on a podcast right now it was a big deal for a few days I think he enjoyed how big of a deal it was and then it was like you came through it nothing
Starting point is 00:59:45 not even like at least clear her at least say we looked it up and she is at least on this hacking website there is nothing get on her good side then at least
Starting point is 00:59:59 you don't make everyone this just became troll it's like it's almost like the fucking storyline's not finished here I don't know what the storyline can't fucking finish with this video I don't know what the fuck happened
Starting point is 01:00:12 and then like a proposing a proposal I don't I mean obviously it's fucking like troll but it's like there's it seemed fucking I don't know last minute and he was like I gotta come up
Starting point is 01:00:25 for something last minute but I don't know what the hell I don't know what the hell that was it was not definitely it wasn't I don't think it was a good look at all yeah it was not a good look
Starting point is 01:00:38 but you know Doug will come out on top he always does he always does his thing he's gonna grind put in the hours I mean the thing with him is like I don't know
Starting point is 01:00:50 he probably doesn't care he's like this is I bet his stream numbers are up I bet his subs are up his views are up for sure I mean it's just the guy but it's like I know multiple clickbaits about him but it's like I don't believe
Starting point is 01:01:04 that this I don't believe that this troll this was a part of his plan. I think his plan fucking fumbled hard. And this is how he came up with a solution. But it was like, dude, you had too many people like sitting there. I was fucking, I don't give a fuck. And even I was sitting there like, let's, yes, fine. I'm sitting there like fucking detective dog. I knew this is why I liked you. Fucking, you're gonna, I actually believe in you to do this. Like, fuck yeah. It's about time someone fucking does this. This is the same guy that like,
Starting point is 01:01:38 See, the thing is, is he tapped into the new age scene. And nobody knew how trolley he is. He convinced everyone in his life at one point, everyone in the community that he had never had a cheeseburger. And then he made a video trying my first Cheap's Burger, and he acted like he was gagging. So that wasn't real. That wasn't real.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Are you sure? It was a cheeseburger. You don't gag when you eat a cheese. Nobody gags when he eat a cheeseburger. But that's what makes him special, though. The thing is, it's like, we know, the people that have been around for a while in the cod community know about that. This new war zone. See, but the cheeseburger shit is like, okay, that's kind of, like it's, you're fucking with everyone.
Starting point is 01:02:20 It's kind of pissing people off. There's no way you haven't had a cheeseburger. But all right, you win this one, you fucking troll. But this one, it was. I mean, I would argue, I would argue he won more in this one. He got way more people. He had 10,000 viewers when it happened. 10,000 viewers.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I heard he started up his stream, played some ads, had a bunch of people, or this is just what I heard. Did he even show his face at all in the stream? I know. I didn't watch it. I just played the video, turned it off. I'll watch it. So, no one?
Starting point is 01:02:55 Not even his fucking rivals in the top 200? Apparently a few of those idiots have been banned, but who the fuck cares? Who cares about Dropshot X-2000? No one cares about him. Fucking look up Tupac. Look up ex-Tupac thug lord. If you don't get anything, there's your content. Everyone that said, hey, Tupac's been,
Starting point is 01:03:20 Tupac is lacking. Why wouldn't you clear your friends? Yeah. Clear your friends or clear. Clear people instead of like, clearing Nadiah would probably be a bigger hit. Clearing Nadia would be way bigger of a hit than what the fuck he did. It's almost like he could make a TikTok.
Starting point is 01:03:37 saying, what's up guys? I found a way to... I found a way to find out if Nadi is really cheating or not. All these fucking haters that are... Click for part two. All these haters that are talking down
Starting point is 01:03:46 on her name, like you're just mad that she's way better than you. And then boom, at least the haters will come... They'll double down and they'll be like, no, that's just one website. Like, she is for sure hacking. But at least it's content. At least there's something there.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah, that was a... But he didn't... I saw this dude tweet out, please search up. up all of these names and it was everyone in the s and d community pretty much almost everyone and everyone was like oh shit why am i on this list i'm not hacking and he's like he said i don't i didn't put you on here because you're hacking i put you on here because people have people have accused you of hacking and i want to clear your name if you're not hacking and it's like that is good content
Starting point is 01:04:27 i mean there's some big names on that list there's s and d kids there's what makes me think like challenges he even have is there even a program i don't even know if there's a program i don't fucking know how cheating works. How much, how hard did Doug get trolled or how hard did Doug troll us? That's what I want to know. I don't fucking know, man. Should we at? An hour five?
Starting point is 01:04:49 But I did see a, I don't know about Nottia, man. I saw a fucking new clip I never seen before and I was like, is it the guy who lags? No, it was the guy floating in from the sky and she goes to zoom in on him and it, like, Like whips to someone in the door. I hadn't seen that one before, but. That one's new. I saw that one. I saw like Shotsie and Zuma like.
Starting point is 01:05:15 That one is whatever. There's until somebody can sit me down and explain that one clip and everybody knows what fucking clip I'm talking about. The wall? No, not that one. She goes and she slides on a guy and he, whenever he gets downed, his screen lags and he gets downed over here. Yeah. And her aim never. He lagged and it doesn't ever come off the center of his body.
Starting point is 01:05:42 And like anyone else would be like, what the fuck? And they would throw off your aim. It's like, what the fuck? This guy's fucking lagging. I showed it. I won't say who because they don't like being involved in drama. But I showed it to two people that have been playing cod for 15 years. And they were like, I've never, I've been playing cod for 15 years.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I've never seen that. Never. Not one time have I ever seen that. Yeah. Which is. It makes no sense. That's a crazy thing. I haven't thought about it in that perspective.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I don't like... I've been playing con for 15 years. Nadia is not a bad player. And I don't think she uses... There's just been so... And I don't even... I don't like talking about this. But it's like...
Starting point is 01:06:22 She could very well be legit. She could very well be cleared. But until... Until somebody explains what the fuck happened in that clip, I will always be... I will always be... Even if there was like... In pro, the fucking one of the guy floating in
Starting point is 01:06:35 and then she like... goes to zoom in on him, but her aim snaps to someone in the door, like wasn't even popped out yet, or like, just started. Yeah, that one was kind of sketchy too. And it's just, I, something about it, being in the competitive scene and just the gaming scene, I just never fucked with cheaters. And I'm not saying she's cheating,
Starting point is 01:06:55 but there's just some stuff. I'm like, is there a possibility she has fucked with soft aim at one point? Or I guess that's what it's fucking soft aim. It's not like hard fucking modding, but it's like a soft name that just like helps stick your fucking reticle on people. Like is it possible that she has used it on and off? Because I don't think she uses it all the time. I've watched her stream. I've seen clips.
Starting point is 01:07:24 She pops up on my fucking TikTok every day. So it's like I've watched her play and it's like it's not like every time you tune in. It's just straight fucking demolition. Yeah. But it's like is it turned on and off? Is it, has it, when all of these, when all of these things came up of her, like, possibly, did it, was she like, all she like, all, she's like, all, she's like, all right, fuck this. I got to stop using this shit. And then she kind of got a, I don't know, it made her super popular.
Starting point is 01:07:54 And I guess I'm just hating on the fact that she's super popular and could have possibly been cheating. I don't know if she is cheating. Hopefully she's not cheating. Which, wish her success if she wasn't. She's not cheating props to fucking her. Yeah. If she's not cheating She should feel on cloud fucking nine
Starting point is 01:08:10 But the thing is if she even was cheating a little bit And she's still in cloud nine Then I'm pissed off That's what I'm saying You better be shitting bricks You better be knowing that like this Like it better be hard to sleep This shit from Doug had to have been terrifying
Starting point is 01:08:25 I bet she even like He got on his knee to propose to her And she was probably like If she actually cheats She was probably like oh my god I think she even There was like DMs between them or something. She was like kind of like, I forget
Starting point is 01:08:38 what she said. She was like going at him. But what she was saying was legit. Like if you're going to accuse me of cheating and you don't have proof that I am cheating, because in her, for her defense, she was like, you have no proof because I'm not cheating. Then you're going to tell 10,000 of your viewers
Starting point is 01:08:54 which you might not be misogynistic and fucking, and like a typical cod kid. But at least seven, six, four thousand of your viewers are. You can't, you can't claim all this shit. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:08 And like act like you're going to expose. Get the whole community thinking like, oh, Doug knows something. It is. It just, it just breeds toxicity. If you do shit like that. Especially if you had this program or fucking whatever the fuck you claim to have,
Starting point is 01:09:22 like, I don't know, maybe clear some people. Then we wouldn't have to fucking. Right. Have to wonder. The thing I don't really give a fuck. I think the good thing that comes out of all this is this,
Starting point is 01:09:34 whether this ex kid is legit or not, not the guy who created this program whether he is legit or not I think there was a he at least had a baseline of knowledge that was like that some people could understand and if one guy can do it I bet you there were probably 10 guys that were trying to do it one guy succeeded now I bet you 500 people are trying to to breach into these websites and I don't I'm not one for like yo go out and hack websites I don't really, I don't, not for an advocate for that. I don't know. I don't know. But if you can expose cheaters, fucking go for it.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Go for it. I need a, I'm calling anonymous. I'm calling fucking the cyber security. I'm calling everyone, go fucking hack that shit. Please. I want to know who's hacking. I don't only give a fuck if you're hacking, but if you're successfully hacking and you're sleeping well at night, I need you.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I need to know who's doing it. I need to know who I've lost money to. I need to know who is. I need to know who's making way more money than me. Right. Who has trolled their entire audience. I need to know everyone. And he's fucking laughing about it.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Right. And I also need to know who is cleared so that all these fucking dumbass websites, I can be like, hey, how dumb do you feel now? You hacked and you suck. And so you think everyone else is hacking? No, you are just dog shit. You are just dog shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Oh, I wish I could fucking sit. Doug, this is the only reason we're upset. A lot of good could have come from this. Because you had it. You had it. You had it. You had it. You had the community.
Starting point is 01:11:05 You were the one. You were the chosen ones. Fucking God damn it, Doug. All right. Play that fucking. Play the fucking. Matt, play it.

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