The Flycast - The Complicated Origin of Rich ‘N Lonely | The Flycast Ep. 71

Episode Date: April 13, 2023

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How about we start the podcast off with talking about, I'm fucking sick of it's podcast, man. It's all we do anymore. Why is that? I mean, it is probably our most. It's our ground. It's our groundwork. This is like, it's holding everything.

What's up, guys? Welcome back to another Flycast podcast. And this one is brought to you by corduroys and CBD sparkling drink center. I guess our podcast. do do pretty good but like what other content do we got going on we got some trivia I saw there was a video

I think tomorrow we're doing good tomorrow yeah oh are we yeah which is can we mention it I mean what the chair dodgeball yeah oh shit yeah we didn't do that at the hex quarters or anything see was it

was it the guy went to the Eva thing the virtual reality like esport oh that shit was coming like Mike's been doing we did one of those oh that thing see we actually ray was in that video and he liked it so much that he got

Mike and yeah will they played tournaments and shit apparently it's like huge of France is it actually like cool dude it's crazy like is it like is it fun though yes see but he's probably like partnered with them loki I know I am like I'm not playing fast

no no I it's like uh you put it on and you literally run around Are you selling out Plugin Yeah Has some fucking selling out

Welcome welcome back to Episode 71 of the Flycast Brought to you by the best beanbag in the damn business Gordo Roy Gordo Roy Yay You gotta get the Go go get yourself an optic one

Look how beautiful it is Wait to that home What's it called The Eva So it is actually the Yeah so like It's a huge room Like what at first off

Yeah, explain from the... Huge room with nothing in it. And you put on... And four people stand on that side, four people stand on this side, and you have goggles on. Okay. And you literally run around the map.

But like, obviously you're not going to run into each other. But I'm seeing... But I'm seeing... Rade through my goggles. Right. Yeah, yeah. And your teammates are silhouetted, so you won't run into them.

And the other team is not silhouetted, so you can... But you know, like, you have to, like, pream and look for them. But when you die, you have to walk back to spawn and then everyone's a silhouette. So you don't run anybody on the on your bat. But yeah, we played domination on that. It was like Loki crazy.

Really? Yeah. Like it was Loki, like really cool. What kind of like game types is it? The Slayer? Just domination right now. And that's why I was like, I was like, dude, somebody's got to throw a tournament. I was like, do you guys have Search and Destroy?

And they were like, no. And I was like, you got to guess, sir. Dude. Dude. That's actually Search in real life. Search in real life. Imagine a real life IRL search and destroy tournament like against

like the creators of different sports. Like is your character moving how you move in real life too? Yeah yeah. So can you like bunny hopped, dolphin dive if you do that? You can't lay on the ground. You'll get like penalized but you can grab like you can like snake in real life. Dog I was

sweating bullets by the first one. Bro, I already knew that was going to be like that. Yeah. No, that's why I dodge. They were, is it really? I forget why I dodged. I remember you're going to be sweating tomorrow with the dodge ball. Last time we played dodge ball, I got drilled in the fucking face by Seth. Really?

But that was like the trampoline dodge ball. So not the last, the eight dodge balls ago. That was so long. That was Chicago, right? Yeah. Yeah. The trampoline one? That was in Chicago.

I got drilled in the, I feel like we just haven't done many. videos like that. Like it's hard now bro. Like, lokey like is. And then it's like we'll do them and it's like they won't even like do that well. Yeah, I think that's like the biggest thing is that like Raj, Raj made a thing when he, when he came back from thieves. He was like, yeah, let's do like IRL stuff. And that's what we were doing like big ball.

Remember the big ball like the rolly thing? It was like formal's versus video back and we did a bunch of stuff in the X quarters. But a lot of the times those videos just don't do. I mean, they don't do as well as podcast. Yeah. So Hector was like. man I don't know

why are you making me sweaty chalking my day and then we're not getting as many views as if we just did a podcast and I'm like well yeah

I mean it kind of makes sense but I mean I still think I think YouTube is a lot different now yeah it is then like

back in the back in the scuff house days we could just could do anything we were we were uploading like some of the smooth comes anything

I had maniac booming like 60 70K like what do a fool Some of the scuff or some of the smooth comps like towards the end, even the early visions. We had Pomage. They're just like, they're not that, they're not that great, but everybody liked them.

But the early visions? The early visions especially. But like, the later. I might go back. That'd be fun to do on stream. Go back. Watch the first vision ever. It's correct.

Watch the first vision and then watch the last process and compare them. Everyone got, I mean, every time I'm at an event, people still gas me about vision. and I'm like, thank you. But as the, I'm like, thank you. So, like, that means a lot. But also deep down to me, I'm like, dude, I must have brainwashed these kit, like these guys. But it was also just a whole.

That was like some of the best of times. Yeah. Some of the, like the golden era. I'd say, I'd say 60-50 is a golden era for you guys. But also like that was before I was in it like that. So like I was watching. Like, I was in Walgreens like watching all of the show.

It's so crazy. because 60-50 feels like I was involved in everything and 1, 2, 3, 5s it felt like we were in the house and everything was going on around us. Yeah. Like it feels...

It's like stuff came to us. Yeah, like I don't know how to explain it. It's kind of almost like... Well, it seemed like you guys were building everything in 60-50, so you guys would have to go do all this shit. Or you'd have to do and upload like almost every day or at least once a week or something like that. And then when we got to the scuff house,

like, that's when Brand started coming to us. And like, we actually had to do it. shit. We didn't really do shit at 60. Oh, no, we did some fun. I was gonna ask, loop crate videos and stuff like that. Yeah. I was gonna ask a lot of, a lot of times when we have like a guest one, we'll sort of like, not like an interview, but it of the kind of like I'm a, I'm gonna be interviewing a little bit.

But just so like, because I don't even know. And you talk about like 60-50, I joined in, I think 20, January, February, March, March of 2015 and then like there were some videos but I was also on the pro team so it was more so like I was kind of just focused on that but then they would pressure hacks is like Loki was he pressuring me to make videos I can't really I think he was

people to vlog back or back then it was gameplay like yeah yeah yeah yeah you can't I can't remember if I was like uploading gameplay like that or Halo 5 wasn't like or Halo H2A wasn't like you can't upload that no at first you came in we're cook in and like on your health grind. Yeah.

I do remember that. Health grind. Yeah. Well, no, that felt chicken, no seasoning. I remember, yeah, I remember like I'd come out in the mornings to like cook or something and Will it's just like getting a coffee or I remember making a few cooking videos. I remember being decently. There's a picture because I shared the master bedroom with crim six.

And I remember there was a picture of me in that bathroom and I was like kind of shredded slightly. But, I mean, quickly after that, I fucking fell off and then, yeah, the rest of history from there. But, like, going into that house, I don't know, it was, like, I think, like, moving into it, like, it was a whole different world of, like,

being on my own. It was so exciting. Like, what was that, like, for you? First off, what was your life like right before you moved in? And then when you moved in, like, what was the... So, before I moved in, I was literally

like, I mean, bro, from what I remember, because that was 10 years ago. From what I remember, I would literally wake up, let's just say I woke up at 1 p.m. Right? I would play the game all night to like 7 a.m. Go to sleep, wake up at 5, do the same thing again. I'm making sure I wake up before the 6 o'clock tournament. Oh my God. You know what I'm saying?

Because I got to at least get in that. I got to make sure I'm up every day. Like, same thing. And I would look. My mom would come home from work, cook, so I'd eat. Would she be pissed off of how you're living? She was disgusting. Everyone was disgusting.

Yeah, real. Like, I'd, she'd cook. Obviously, they go to sleep. And the next time I would eat would be, like, right before she left for work. And I was, like, walking a quick check because I'm about to go to sleep in, like, an hour. Yeah. To Arizona is a sandwich. Like, just straight bowl.

I was doing that every single day. Yeah. Like, literally every single day. Like, every single day. like nonstop playing with the scene people talking to the scene this is when uh this was probably like

what game was before ghost I'm having to bring for Blackups 2? Black Ups 2 so this was probably like 1 over 3 were we still playing black I can't remember I want to say this may have been like beginning of ghost

maybe this could have been like the beginning but a little bit I was definitely playing Black Ups 2 I know right before I joined so um yeah bro that's literally what I was Like, I didn't do any, it's not like I was going to parties or anything. What did you like? My life was boring as hell.

When did you transfer or when did you go from like S&D to respond? Everybody starts. So you started as a straight S&D kid. Yeah, this is how I got into the pro scene. So I would play 2V2s like tournaments in Black Ops 1, random shit. Yeah. With my boy Wario. My boys from Jersey.

Like I would just, I'd go to locals with them and stuff. But I wasn't, I was just an S&D star. But the only time I play variant is at a local or something. Okay. And then one day I played a tournament, I beat Spacely. I beat him in a 2 v2 and he hit me up like, yo, it said your bio is from Jersey. Are you from Jersey? And then I'm like, yeah, we started to us.

That's how I met Spacely. And from there, I went to, I started playing with Spacely more. He was with Fais and Nameless. So I would, if they, one of them weren't on, I'd go in and play with them just to like fill in the scrim. So I started meeting more people, more people. That's a good way to get in. And MW3

I want to say MW3 This was in like MW3 Black Ops 1 And in the MW3 I met study Yeah First time I ever met study New York Badass New York kid

Fucking cursing in the mic Everything Dude he's like yo He's probably obnoxious What? He literally told like When we had aim Yeah

So we're a tournament Right after school There's a tournament going on So I'm Yo study He's like Bro I'm gonna be late But I'm all my way home

I lost first map 1 v2 so I'm losing full I'm down 02 second map study joins the game he's like yo let's go you better win this shipples we end up winning the tournament we literally ended up winning the whole tournament that's how I'm at study from the from first round down 01 down 02 yep and then 1v gets on he's like I told you but this is what he was like he was I can't tell you exactly what he was saying he was talking oh my oh my God. That's how I met. Is it funny? Is it funny seeing study up there in a suit?

Now he's a kid. Yeah, kid. Yeah, that's great. I remember because study was like, everyone's, yeah. Study was like the rambunctious, like, player. He's going to, like, when I first started shooting, like, shooting events and stuff, like, you always put the camera on study.

Yeah, he's going to say, oh, my God. Yeah. He's going to get a two-case stand up. Yeah. I love it when people stand up. up mid-map, like mid-respon. And let them know. People don't do that anymore because the skill's too hot.

I think... Yeah, you can't fuck around. You can't do that anymore. People used to do that all the time. Just mid-map, stand up and yell at them. Mid-respon. So, yeah, you go from... When do you start...

When was your first tournament? My first ever, like, MLG. Like, not local, like actual MLG. Yeah. Columbus of Ghost. Or no, I'm lying. I'm capping. Black Ops 2, MLG, Anaheim.

Or no, I'm capping again. Dallas. You don't remember your first event? Dallas. I remember it's like yesterday. Dallas. Black ops two. Dallas.

I played top eight. Top eight. First tournament? I lost round one to Doug's team. We played them round one. They were called this when they had the little construction best on. Oh. Yes.

Kimstar's team. Reflectors and shit. It was Kimstar's team. He didn't give them jerseys. He gave him construction. Yeah. Reflectors style. Oh my God, I won 19 matches

Street and beat fear for top 8. Me, Methods, Fluff, and Lola's. Damn, you team with methods? Bro, and what year is this? Blackup, Blackups 2 is 2012, 2012? And then 11 years later,

it's like you're on a fucking org. It's almost like me and formal. We teamed, I remember we teamed in like 2011. She was destiny. And fucking like now, dude, it's crazy about formal. Methods was so different back in the day.

He was like, he had such an ego and he was just like, but he, but he, but he had like, bro, bro, this guy cared about his friends with so much. Oh, dude. I miss, I miss caring of it. It was a, it was a kind of a flex. Yeah, it was. Like when you, I should say fierce sats and moho. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. One time we played a G. We matched up against envy. And I was like, there's no way it's the real envy. I checked four place. Friends list. And I was like, oh my God, bro. Could you check other people?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Damn, I forgot about that. My first tournament I ever won. The GV was fearless envy. Yeah. I remember that. It was my first tournament ever won.

I won like 240 bucks. What did you think you were going to place in at your first event? Like, were you already around for like years online? Like doing good in like S&D tournaments and stuff? Like, did people know of your name? Or were you just like a random? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they knew me.

Like I was in, put it this way, I had, I had more, like, clout than, like, good teammates. So, like, everyone knew me, but, like, I was playing with, like, just, like, pretty, like, they're not, they're good, but, like, they're not pros. You know what I'm saying? But then after that, after the Dallas event, I think it was champs right after that. Yeah, that was the qualified. And then champs, that's the one, Killa, Meier and them won. And then after that, um, was Anaheim. and then I played with, well, we played with Saints at, um, champs instead of methods.

And, uh, we placed like 9th through 10th, like one before the money. And then like after, as soon as we lost, like, like, during that time, like, I didn't talk to everybody, but like we all knew each other. So like, after like, after like, good try, Bose. And I'm like, I don't even, I didn't even know y'all. Really? I don't give a fuck. Damn.

That's crazy. But at one, this is one. this is one thing I remember from that weekend and it hits so hard every time there's like literally 30 of us cod players like some just meeting for the first time some first event and we're walking through fucking

Beverly Hills mansions like we're walking through the neighborhood and like we're all just chilling and we're talking like damn like there's something I think NAMLas said it he's like yo someone in this group right now is going to be a hundred K richer by the end of the weekend and we're all just thinking like damn

damn yeah that's positive and kill Amir. That shit was crazy. That puts it into perspective. Yeah. Like, and nobody, none of us in that group had paper. I was like my favorite time to watch God. Absolutely not.

Like, if something went wrong out there, we were fucked. There were, dog, there were two people that had paper in the whole industry. It's crazy how broke I was going. Like, I don't even understand how I was like, I don't even remember how I was, like, making it to events. Neither do I. I was thinking that the other day. I'm like, bro, I was on a,

flight like how did I like pay for my bag? I think I got over. Get a taxi or how did I? I don't even know if there was Uber back then. No, I don't think there was. No, no, there wasn't. Like, was I getting a taxi at like 17 going to events? Just like, then I'm just like praying for a top eight finish to get like if I get,

if you get top eight, it's like 500 bucks each and it's just like that fucking, I remember getting top three. 500 each and your flight's 750 Bro, yeah Like Bro Down on the weekend Like what

Fucking we would I would get third And I think that was 2K each And I remember just being like Damn like that'll last me A few months It's just crazy

I forgot what a tournament I had that feeling Or Oh no I actually remember So in the beginning of Black Ops 2 Was me

Sharp We were called Team Moho But we won like 7 of the kickoff tournaments in a row, me, Ricky Sharp, and someone else. So, like, throughout that whole time, when I, when we used to get paid through DeWala, it's like a fucking, you know, how Optic uses a program. Right, yeah.

Whatever. So I remember, like, transferring all my money to my bank and then going to Chase at the time. And then I was like, um, I'm coming out of the bank. I look at my receipt. And it said, like, $1,250. And I'm like, holy shit. I have $1,000. Loaded.

This is crazy, bro. I remember just like walking thinking I'm like walking home like anyone want to go to quick check I gotcha bro I remember I was 18 I think when I won 2009 Nats so and then that 25K check hit I thought I was like

I'm buying weed for all my friends like anything they won I'll fucking like give them the money for beer just like let me get some I felt and then that shit went so quick. Mine, when I moved to the Optic House,

I think I had like $4,000. My bank account 4 to $7K. Dude, I don't even, I wonder what I had. I had $750. I probably had somewhere about the round that. And the only reason I did is because my mom paid my rent the month before,

which was $400. So like, she spared me. Yeah. And like, I would only have, I drove up to the scuff house with $750. My mom might have gave me like $1,000 for moving. I can't remember. But it was just like...

Something. Yeah, like... Because I don't... I don't even remember, like... I mean, but even by then, I think I was like... 23 or something when I joined Optic. And, like, I was still competing as a pro, but I'm working, like, 30 hours a week as stocking groceries.

And these checks are fucking... Dog. Dude, my schedule would be, like, work six hours or something a few days a week. and then I'd get home, scrim. I remember I got into a habit of like drinking like two beers or something every single night. Like it was just like a shit. Not even that shit of a life actually. Now that I truly think about it, like it wasn't like going to work and just like getting out of the house and they come with like I felt productive sort of.

But I was still fucking broke his shit. See, I never felt that way. I would get like a $600 check every or I would know. My check would, I think, come every two weeks. It'd be like 3 to 400. 25, 350. And I would just like, you, dude, it's just crazy. I remember my manager told me, like, how much he made.

And it would be like, I'm trying to think how much. Not. Maybe like 20 or something K salary. And I'm just like, what? Like, you got like 3K a month or like 3K a month or something to just spend on or like 2K a month. to just spend on whatever. I was just like, I don't even know how,

like I'm moving into Optic House and I want to know what it was like for you to move into the Optic House, but it's just like, I'm so, I was so broke. I think I was still being like cheap and had to like look at my money

and that was for a long time. What do you call it? How did you, yeah, how did you like join optic? How did you, how I join? I'm actually,

I'll check. I think I might have the DM from Hector still. So like right before I, or so it was UMG Philly. I was actually the event. I found out what Uber was. I went to go eat, with Nate Hex.

Ricky was on optics, so like me and Ricky were always best friends. So like, oh, this is Philly. Yeah, Philly. Yeah. That's my first event. We went to the diner we were eating and shit was the first time I ever found out what Uber was because Hex was calling him. Yeah.

So, like, what? This car comes to picks us up. I'm like, fuck. Shoev, like, driver and shit, like crazy. So, like, that's when I like got, I knew, already knew Nate from MW3 and shit, but like, we weren't like, we were cool, but like, I can't just, to just call them like now but um so we were eating and shit but like during that time like bro i would get on a team get them their best placing and they would drop me and it didn't make sense to me

i would do it repeatedly though your personality i would no it couldn't have been i was doing repeatedly like three four teams in a row and then it got to a point where hector would always hit me up like yo that's fucked up yo what they're doing how did you how did hex know even know you like that Because Nate shot. How did Nate know you like that? From MW3 and NETW3 and NET. Like you'd like play with them and stuff? We were on a team and MW3.

Me, Nate and NX called EIO. Then what? Like Nate would play with you every now and then or? Every day. We would play. Literally every time. So you guys became like really good friends. But not like to where you'd call them.

Like it was AIM then. So like it was like. You just know when you sit down at your computer, Nate did his fucking computer too and you guys are going to play. You hop in like Xbox Live party chat. Yeah. Shit like that. So, um,

what was like? just talking about fucking oh yeah hex would hit me up and shit and then um i forget who joined it was about to be champs for ghosts i forget what team they had but i was about to join phase with jcap replays i think proofy

i could be wrong i don't remember who was on that team yeah but a spot opened up with optic with clay and or clay and need because scump and someone else left and or they dropped somebody so i joined with them we're gonna pick up dito dito was cool he was like good but like he's not scump good like he was nice back in the day dito was like the best it was like the best he was like the best

he was like the i remember that's like when i started diving indecade really yeah like proof it was like he was like a good a r right stainville dito and like i think like big team was probably in that but there was beginning of ghosts some people that were like black ops too is MW3 through ghosts kind of. I remember being pretty good in like ghosts or like, yeah, I remember the name. Fucking, um, and then. So it's you, Nate and Clay and we're screaming with Dito. How did, how did?

I wasn't at the house yet. How did Nate and Clay approach you to join? And were you like, what the fuck? No, because at that time, I, like, or you're like, Bells were going to where like in my mind I'm thinking if we don't get scump we're going to lose that's how really that's literally what I was thinking the whole time like I'm in my back on my mind I'm thinking as soon as scump as soon as nade said yo scump wants to join but he's like I just don't think it's up I immediately said shut the fuck up you guys got to drop people like I think it's the

best thing possible we ended up picking up scump and then that's when fucking I that was like the first week of me going to the house. What did you, what did you guys place? Oh, at champs. Or let's build up. Third? Ghost, top third. Yeah, top three.

Top three. So, damn, were you hype to join that team? Were you not that? Was Nate, like, was Nate's name that big that back then? To where you, it would be like.

Like, when I uploaded my video, I got like 60 to 100K views. Fuck. Just be, for being Nate's boy. My first day joining Optic, I had 13 thousand viewers. Damn. That shit is crazy.

So, okay. Yeah, so this is, this is the wave I talk about missing. Like, and I was in Halo, so it's like,

people didn't really give a fuck. Right. But yeah, there's just like wave that I, that I miss before Optic. You, Nate,

Clacer, you scump. So scum didn't want to join because him and Nate had beef. Yeah, him and they were beefing, but we played them in a two.

2K series before champs and shit on them like bad and it was only made sense like yeah like scump you might so come back Doug yeah better than y'all you made a mistake you know what I'm saying so I guess I don't know who he hit up but like it came up and I was like everyone just so you join the team like you're talking to them at home though how do they like ask you to or tell you to come out um or like do they tell you to move out well come visit talk on the court they're like asking me what I think about Dito and shit. Like, they basically,

like, I was there and I'm thinking the whole time, like, okay, it's still a possibility I might join. But then they told me like, no, you're on the team.

Like, we need a fourth. So I'm like, okay. And then they were like talking about when we're going to announce and shit. As literally as soon as like, I think, no,

that's, I wasn't at the house yet. We were figuring out, we played online a little bit and I want to say like, probably like a week after us getting scump back or, no,

I think scump, scump joined at the house i was already there i think i was at the house for like maybe like two weeks or so and then scump came back we like would scrim and shit it was just me and need at the crib though and then clay you guys playing beside each other yeah claimed clay came for a little bit before champ so y'all were all four of y'all like in the same room playing together in the same room no i don't think scum came it was me and clay and aid though at one point in the same room so they asked you to join You guys eventually convinced Gump. Then you, who tells you to move into the house?

Is it moving or is it visit? Well, I was already, it was crazy because at the time I was dating a girl that lived in Chicago. I lived in Jersey, like online. So when we went to Philly. I went to Philly. I went to Philly, right? And then she flew there, like in the snowstorm or flight was delayed and shit. And then we got stuck there after.

So I stayed in Philly after too. and then after that I obviously I knew she lived in Chicago and shit so as soon as they hit me up I'm finally like fucking working I'm really about to move to Chicago and my girl lives there and you're living in a house

you're playing games a day yeah like so yeah like I landed who asked you to move there X okay and like Nathan and was it move or visit it was visit and never go home I visited and never went home.

Literally. I literally. I literally visited and shit, it was like a minute before I went home. So you join, you get into the house, what's like that? I walk in the,

all right, so I land. What's it like walking in? My girl picks me up. Because I was underwhelmed. We drove the wrong way towards downtown. And I'm like, we fucking choked.

Yeah, you know, you're not downtown. Like, still say Chicago, though. But we're about 55 minutes That one.

So he drove to Hoffman to States and shit out, walk in. And then Hex walked up to me. Like, what's good? And I see Nate at the top of the stairs. He's like, we're like chatting shit and he's like, yeah, if you want to go to the basement, that's where we got that stanky weed at. And then Hex got so mad. Really?

He got so mad. He turned around like, he got pissed. It was so like undercover back then. Yeah. You couldn't say. I remember scum smoked the cigarette one time and it was like on camera or something. and everyone freaked the fuck out. Yeah, really?

Yeah, like, calling him like a bad role model and all this other shit. Like, you couldn't talk about weed, you couldn't say you smoked, you couldn't smoke cigarettes. I don't even think you could really drink. Like, were y'all drinking and putting it on camera or anything?

No, like, well, you at the- Well, yeah, I wasn't old enough until 1, 235. Yeah, but I was still going out. Yeah. I think I'd be life. Yeah. I remember you've got a took, couple of times.

Go get like 40, 60 bucks out the ATM. Like, all right, so you walk into the house, boom, Nate, weed basement, Nate shots already getting yelled at. Where, do you go up to that room that you stayed in the whole time? Yeah. That's where you're sleeping. No, because Big T moved downstairs. So I was able to just.

Why did Big T get the master instead of like Nate? I don't know. Longevity, right? That's always how Hector was. Whoever's been an object to line. Oh, yeah, yeah. So whoever's been out to go longest, like you prioritize other people. Like at that time.

Big T. So, like, for instance, I always think about that. I don't know why. But for instance, like, let's just say a sponsor was like, all right, we're going to give you guys 20K first. It goes through next. Then it goes through need. Then it goes through scoff. Then you get the trickle down effect.

And then you get 75 bucks. Something like 350. Yeah. But back then, everything was booming. and I'm like boom and like Twitch YouTube. Like I'm making like MLG right. Like seven grand on YouTube. I'm making MLG like another 7,500.

Like I never got that experience. Plus like tournament. I remember I mean when that 30K hit, that's when it got. 30K, what 30K? From the champs. I was literally driving like I, you remember the Chipotle where it's at? And Hoffman State took 6050.

Yeah. It's like Chipotle. The Jersey Mikes is right there. Is it Jersey? Or great clips right next to it. Yeah, right by the target. Yeah. Like the target's here, but this shit's like over here.

Yeah, yeah. So I'm like on that road, like driving out from Chippola. And then my mom already told me the check can't ship. So I was just like, I would like randomly sign in my account to check. And then I checked that day and it said like 38 grand. Damn. Like. But at that time, in my mind, I only had like eight grand.

like I would not let that shit drop under 30s. Yeah, dude, I was the same. I wish. Yeah. I wish. I couldn't let that go under 30, though. Yeah, yeah. Anything.

I'll let that go under 30. You're at 31, you're like, no, I got to, I got you, fucking up. I got to, I got to pack my lunch or some shit. Oh, God. So you move in, you're scrimming. Scrim's going well. Everything.

We're like top three team in the game. Like, I mean, like, through that era? Ghosts. And I was like. Very beginning of. And in Black Ops 2, I was on Unite, and we beat complexity to, like, they were on the tournament win streak. We knocked them off.

That's the only team to, like, beat complexity. Damn. Wait, complexity was, who was it? Crim, Clay, and. Teepee? Yeah. Damn. And then the next person to beat them was Doug, Cesar fucking Martin.

That's, I want to, I need him to sit down here. That would be a, get a fucking interview or whatever with him. What's going on? I has a fucking crazy. That is the craziest. All right, move in, scrimm's going well. When's y'all's? How long, or I guess like, I don't know,

how long are you in there till your first, like, tournament? Probably, like, a month. And, like, actually, what else is going on? Oh. Do you have to start making YouTube videos? You're just banging out gameplays? So, yeah, I'm, like, doing gameplays and shit, but, like, the first, like, few days I got there,

I, was it the first? I don't, I can't remember. remember, but we were doing like some stream. And this is when Mike came. It was the first time I ever smoked to. Was he your coach? No. He was supposed to be like a fitness coach or like some shit they were doing.

I can't remember. But then Mike came. He like walked in the room to do the stream. He's like, yo, you know where they put the weed at? Like, I don't fucking know. Mike, I'm not a pot head. Are you not a pot head? No, I only smoked like one to my life before ever.

But then that night, me and Mike, that was that was the start of, like the Bose fucking Mike was my start too I had never smoked him then I really dude those were the I don't like I I hate to put people's business out there but those were the best fucking times like all my life like sitting in the basement me prove big T Mike will just like all of us bullshit and like made up going into a panic attack every fucking time

like fucking Jordan and Mike arguing like those are just those are great ass I wish I could have been a part of that but when I joined, like, I was kind of like, I was against weed. Yeah, you know, you just quit. You'd roll it for us, remember? Yeah. I'd be like, yo, Nick, is you rolling? I'm like, trust me.

I used to smoke. I'm cool, too. I used to smoke, but now I just freak the fuck out. Every single time I smoke. I just. No, but fucking, yeah, like, dirt. I, we join, I mean, it was like a month before we had the Cod Champ shit. And then we had the, we placed third there.

I remember right after that. Disappointed in the placement? Yeah, yeah, because we could have won. If we were to beat complexity, we were going to win that tournament. And that would have changed the trajectory of a lot of shit. We win that tournament. I don't know what happened after that, but I know it's crazy, straight up. That would have been crazy.

But fucking randomly after that tournament, not randomly, but like, so during that time, Like if Hex would text me while I'm not there, I would instantly get a pit in my stomach. Like, why the fuck is Hex texting me? Yeah, yeah, that's how I used to be. I mean, it's kind of look. He still is like that. Wait, so you would visit home and he'd text you?

No, like my girl's crib. She lived like 30 minutes away. So I'd leave and he'd like rent. So one day he texts me like, yo, where are you at? Hexxx or like, yeah, they were kind of like that. I'm thinking to my mind like, I'm weighing all my options out, right?

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a sip, take a moment, and find your center. By the way, I was drinking this, I don't know if I was drinking it during the podcast, but what I drank today after Leg Day was CBD's recover powder that you can mix into water. Been sipping this, sipping the CBD all stream, back to the podcast. So he's like, I ain't texting me again. Yo, you coming? And I'm like, this is sketchy. so then I fucking I get there it's Hex opens up the door he's like yo it's good I'm like yeah this motherfucker is being mad weird like he's like I got to talk to you man

I'm like I already know it's gonna happen bro this after champs yeah this is after champs so they're like telling me they're like he's like y'all I forgot how they said it but he's like we're gonna make a roster change and we're gonna have to let you go and then I or I think Nate told me and then HEC started laughing at me

he's like I'm like I actually is a sick fuck I'm like in my mind I'm like there's been multiple times where we're like dude like I'm not necessarily

about shit like that but it's just like no not right now I'm like I'm like yeah is there a video

like let me guess I don't got no paper nothing and y'all rich just laughing at yeah so but then he told me

that and then he's like but we still want you to stay a part of the team but I'm thinking of my mind like if I'm not playing for the team what the fuck am I gonna do yeah but he's like I want you bring back opt ignition I'm like but you're gonna be the captain I'm like this could work like this could work you're like tank fuck he's like you don't have to move or anything we want you to stay like we love you

I'm like all right but at that time I'm still questioning them I'm like in the back of my mind I'm like you could be saying that motherfucker but in two weeks I might be out of here like I don't know that you thought that because I never think that's good that you thought that because I never thought that. When I got into that scuff house, I think I was delusional that I would always be there. And luckily, I mean, it worked out, but like... I got the points where it's like, I didn't care. If you got kicked out.

I was like, I don't give a fuck. Really? Like, I was just like, there would be times where I would like be so depressed and shit that I just like didn't care. I would be, I would think like, like, I have this, but it's like, I'm still not happy. Like, what's the worst I can have and I go home? I never got depressed at one, two, three, five. but when I got to

4,800 printers, oh, God. Yeah. That's when I started doing. I think we just need the pressure, bro. No, bro. Like, that was bad. Not even, no, no, no, no.

What the first, I used to, oh, I'm not going to lie. Like, I had a pretty, like, decent life. So, like, I never, I was kind of, like, naive to, like, I guess you could say mental health and shit like that. So I, like, would feel. like little starts of it at fucking the jail house we lived in over there like I was like damn Emerson yeah but I was like I would like start to feel there and then like when we moved to the Plano house I like started feeling better like all back together that was fun for a little bit I think

I was just like I don't know I was just so used to being with people for sure yeah that was and then when I got a girlfriend like my second relationship the girl that you guys knew that would come over and shit. Yeah. Like that was, but after that, like when that shit ended and I was living by myself still. Yeah. You go crazy. I started going crazy.

No cat. Like literally crazy. Like the, like, I knew I was going crazy when I would wake up, go on my phone, see someone, like, on a Tuesday out at the, like, or like, not even out of the club. Like, someone just say something about anything regarding, like, being sad or anything. And it would fuck my day up. Yeah. Like, what someone else was. going through would fuck my day up so then i just my bro i like went through like i would say the

worst time of my fucking life would probably be like when i lived by our old house in those apartments right there like 2020 yeah i would say like from that apartment to like when i first moved downtown it was like the word i don't even know why i moved downtown like i was just doing I was just cooler. I was just doing shit. I feel like we didn't for a while was like, well, I guess y'all didn't really see me.

I didn't see really any of y'all. But I guess you kind of disappeared for a little bit. These are like huntsman days. Like pre-huntsman days. Yeah. We didn't have an org. That shit was, yeah.

What were you doing during those days? What was I doing? Going fucking insane. Literally like. Like doing what the? Like sitting around or were you just fucking, you drive around? all day. Sometimes I like bro sometimes I'd be up to like four in the morning just driving around like just like just driving like thinking like like was this shit all worth it like bro like thinking about like a whole lot of shit like no college like no high school parties like no cool doing cool shit with my friend I didn't get to do any of that. So like when I used to when I think back on it I am jealous of that.

Oh man like did I fuck like college like yeah I like did I sacrifice good shit for a great life right you know what I'm saying? Like we were really, nobody was really playing cod dance. World War II was out. So like, no one was streaming it. Yeah. Like, that's, I was just thinking the whole time, like, did I make the right sacrifices? Or, or, and you look back and you think like, God, I could have did this. Could did that.

Yeah. Yeah. A bunch of. Just like thinking like, fuck. Like, I won wrong here. Yeah. But, yeah. It's funny because, like, when you're in your element, you like, that's when you, like, thrive.

that's why you're so good on the watch parties because you're just like you're just sitting there viving you get to talk about Cod you get to talk shit a little bit and hang out like that's the that's most comfortable I've seen you in videos in a long time

dude I'm telling you like those loves Cod yeah that that's like those but the thing is though like during those times like everybody was like pretty much separated so like no one's like

everyone was literally doing their own thing at one point so it was kind of like I thought I was trying to reach out to someone like like you know what I'm saying it's just like and it's like what are you gonna reach out and say

am I gonna cry on my knees to you or like I don't know it's just like what is there to even like hi hey I'm sad and then did they come back oh well let's go hang out then it's like cool you go hang out and it's like all right

and I go back home by myself and my thoughts eat me alive again anyways what were you talking about you're sad and shit so yeah I mean, fucking depressed. I wonder what,

because when we made the move, we all sort of, I think, fell into that. In 2018? Why do you think you, well, 2018, I was dealing with like the infinite shit. And I,

it hit me, I knew shit was chalked before you guys did. You guys would come in for content and I would be like, like, like, these guys don't know, like, what's going on. So, like, I fell into that.

And I was also like, I knew shit was, like, I knew the shit was, was fucked when like people like this is when I knew it was fuck like people started like I who first of all who motherfucker who are you and why are you hiding them give me the yeah yeah give it to me like you this isn't going to you bro we would walk we would walk in the office and everyone like has new merch on don't we're just like when like when are we get this shit

i will never forget the ggea jumpsuits they made thousands of jumpsuits and the head of ggea or or one of the employees, I don't mean to blow up his spot, but he was just walking around the office, full merch, GGE, GGE, GGE.EA. And which what, do you all even know what that is? That was a company under Infinite. And what they did was they would try,

well, the idea was, it was like an academy program. So we had a League of Legends team. We had a Counter-Strike team. We had three, we had three Call of Duty teams in World War II, paying salaries to all these. people and then this guy walks in with a jumpsuit on and I was like bro I don't have we I don't have budget because I was like doing basically what Roger's doing now I don't have budget to get big mouse pads like big mouse pads and you have a full jumpsuit on of a company that I know is

losing 100 grand a month and so I'm just like who is gonna are you gonna what are you do sell it who's gonna buy it's so crazy because like no matter what and like i guess you could kind of relate this to the face situation even though i don't know what's going on internally yeah but like bro you can go to school you could do what you can be a fucking doctor regardless i've been doing this i'm first gen of this shit yeah i know this like the back of my hand like i you can be a merch guy you can do all that that's great and i can never know but i know how to oh fuck i'm gonna know how to sell it to the people that watch us better than you i know exactly what you have to do like you know what i'm saying like bro you can't

Like, you can't go, like, you can't, you can't, you can learn it. Not as late as they came in, though. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. You got to be brought up with this shit. I mean, they just thought, understand it. They just had the idea that you could just put optic on something and that would sound. And it's just going to fly.

Like, bro. Like, we had an Optic League of Legends Academy team. And I was like, like. The India team. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, I forgot about that. Oh, yeah.

We had a Mexico. I like that. remember that? It was like Years of War Team in Mexico? Remember those little as rooms we used to record in? Little rooms. With little mouse pads. Office, tiny office buildings with little mousepads. Yeah. The best thing we had was the trivia room. For sure.

And we had to end the meeting room. The trivia room, we had to borrow the key from the front office. That wasn't our room. Oh my God. Yo, this is the day I lost full. You remember I forgot what was going. What did they have in the back? Remember we went to the back? They had the basketball rim,

had a whole bunch of shit back there. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then they had, like, the room locked with the merch. Like, dude was, like, coming behind us, like, making sure we didn't, like, overtake shit. Like, right then and there. I kind of remember. I remember you complaining about that, but I don't necessarily remember.

That's, like, mentally quit. I'm like, yeah. How dare you? Yeah. Like, before I say something. Like, making sure we just get, like, one t-shirt out the box. It's like, me taking, what?

Especially you guys, you're probably thinking, me taking one of those hoodies. is going to sell 100 of those hoodies the seconds people see it so like why are you like you want the hoarding the gear you want the 60 bucks for that hoodie to sell more than you want me to promote it being the person who they just wanted people to know they work for optic like period that's just the way like like like bro like people like some people are just bots bro period literally like you can't like bro like what are you scared I'm robbing some a company I've been here for seven years Like I've been here five to seven years

Motherfucker I will go in here and take this And then push you out the way But not but real shit though The only reason why I never ever like ever Once like I amped up or said Certain way because I know I'm gonna piss Hacks off doing that Like if I were to spazz on someone like that X is gonna that's what I did

Is gonna come to me he's not gonna like I'm gonna have to take the fall for that I spazzed on someone And really And it caused an issue between me and Hex It was the only time me and Hax has ever fought. Oh, yeah. I already know.

Yeah, it was like, I, I, I, they, they had fired me as the, as a video or as the content lead. Oh. And so I was just a content creator. So I had, I told everybody, I made like a round the bar video and I told everyone like, yo, like I, they took my camera. I'm not doing this anymore. Yeah. That's crazy.

And I was, I was like, you know, I got, you know, let go from, from that job. And then that one went crazy. like 100k views and then hector was like because i had all the fans against infinite i had a problem with the infinite people but hector kind of kind of like wanted to keep that family feel when we moved down here so he didn't really like tell anybody like you know i'm not the one that's making all these decisions like he wanted to still be the face and like still go through it like how we how we've always done so when i made that video i didn't drop names which i wish i would have but i didn't want to drop names but i was basically talking about

about the top two, the top two people. Yeah. And everyone thought that I was talking about Hex. And so Hex was like, yo, like, now I got, you know, 50,000 people thinking that I fired you, and I was just like, all right, like, and then, you know, I had to do everything to make it right. But also, like, it was just a weird time because I can't imagine being Hex and that's, I mean, he'll never, he'll never say it.

Like, he had to have been going through it. Fuck yeah. I mean, everybody. I think Hex was lost for a little. bit. Yeah, because he, when he, I think he had the idea that, like, it's sold to people I trust. Yeah. Like, I can chill for a little bit. Well, you got to think about what, like, you got to think about what, like, was, went through moving. Bro, he moved. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Here. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Us, him, his family, his whole family.

The family's family. Like, getting, yeah. Like getting families for his entire Or getting houses for his entire family And the thing is, what people don't know Is like, Hex is like low key about all that He doesn't talk about it publicly He doesn't even talk about it to us We probably just spelled the beans

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure he said it Yeah, like, he did an even job with Jude There's no way he didn't say it, but like But like that I mean when people, the way that People are back and forth with when it comes to Hex Just because he's such a like a Stravagant person

He's all like Extroverted But like the way that he like takes care of us like It's not even It's not even close to what he does for his family If I got If I got locked up I'd call hacks

There's just like there's certain A hundred There's certain scenarios In life that Have you? Never mind I don't want to blow up your spot What I want

When you were doing When you were going through all your shit have you talked about that or no what that hex that hex put you up yeah that hex put me in it you did you have told me that I mean it's been mentioned yeah I don't know if I was like I mean that wasn't fucking cheat

he did it out of his own pocket it's just like that's my boy yeah we're gonna get him back he shouldn't have done that though we could have worked it out through insurance or something because I paid for rehab my own self through insurance and it wasn't damn near that expensive

but no heck's fucking he just saw I guess something needed to be done. Saw one of his boys going through it. So he reached out. He literally texted me one day randomly and just said like let me help. And it was like

it was one of the another night where I'm just like fuck when I just fucking when I get that text I'm like I just have to like sit on it for a minute and I just I think I've responded just saying like all right. I'm ready. I'm ready because I was like

I literally was ready and like the proof is in the pudding. Like, because I was literally just fucking ready and over it. Dude, the day when we went to

go find him, like where was you doing? You and Mike? And everyone, I can't, I can't, I don't, I didn't,

why didn't you just, like, bro, I'm thinking you're up, I'm thinking you're like, what the fuck happened? Like, did they have a fight last night? She ended up catching a body.

Dude. Like, I'm thinking, like, why is it being so secret. Because I'm not talking, I wasn't even, it's not like we weren't on speaking terms, but it was just,

like, you know, I fucking disappeared. No, you tried to go do a quick little two months alone. No, quick. It was like nine days. When I texted you, when I texted you, I saw the green bubble, it was over. I was like, we got to go. The green bubble? But I hadn't talked to.

That's not good. I would like maybe talk to. Dead. Like, I would maybe one talk to one of y'all through a tax or something once every like, three, two to four weeks. You didn't text me for four months. You didn't text me for four months. Exactly.

I would, I would text. I remember all my texts. I'm thinking no one. I'm thinking I don't text anyone anyway. No one, like, I'm going to be able to go here.

My plan was go here for a week, detox safely, figure out some shit, then come home. And like within three days in, I call, uh, I call my ex.

And then, um, I think this is out what. Three days in, or like three, four days in. or something. I think I get my first phone call.

And it was, it's crazy the timing. They let me get my first phone call. And then it's fucking basically jail. And then I call my ex. She answers and she's like, hey, X and Bose are right here. Like literally at that time,

you like pulled up to my apartment complex. You're like, Bose and X are here. They're asking where you're at. And then like, like, some, some. Then like, she's like, here, hex wants to talk to you. And I'm like, think about this.

I'm like, I think I pick up the phone to just call Linda and be like hey I'm doing all right yeah but I call and it's just like posing hex are here they're they're fucking they're pissed how it's just been like they're and I'm like sitting there and I think like the therapist is sitting right here I'm just like what the fuck is having I was shaking yeah and then hex is like he just said like hello and I was just like you know he's like you good I'm just like I'm fine it's like god damn or fucking i don't know like cussing a little bit or something and then and then i think he just gave the phone back to linda yeah or i was like i'm in rehab

man and then he was just like give my fucking it just like gives the phone back to linda and i was just like oh my god well he was pissed he like snapped on her like not snap but like he got mad because she like lied like about it like i mean which i did i did tell her to yeah you told her not to I was like, don't tell anyone about this. Say I went home or like I'm visiting family home or something. Yeah, she did. And I text. I think I texted your mom.

Yeah. And they reached out to my, I guess I didn't really think this whole thing. No, I think this whole thing. Oh, is he home? And she said, no, I haven't heard from him. And then my mom. She said, no, I haven't heard from him.

And I'm very worried. Oh. And I was like, yo, it's time. She did say that. Green bubbles. Mom worried. She did say that. Yeah.

But in my head, I wasn't talking to you guys like. I think I can disappear for a week and come back. But this is like, I don't know why. One of you texts me randomly. Then you text me again, no answer. Then hitch texts me like green bubbles. So it was just like bad timing. Because any of,

there's been plenty of weeks where I didn't speak to any of y'all. And I just figured I'd like get away with it. I told Linda, if someone asked to say I'm like going home and like visiting family, then yeah, all that shit. and yeah that phone call I mean everything went fine I guess

yeah sort of worked out sort of worked out see that was the first rehab and then I went I got home from that well it was like nine days I think I was there

I went to the real gym kind of I mean it was the same thing I could have stayed there for 30 days you went to prison kind of you're in a halfway house. But yeah, rehab

there. That was my first rehab of that year. Then I came home. I broke up with my ex after like a month or something. I was just like so annoyed for some reason. And I just broke up.

And right when we broke up is when I just started. I was like, I can do whatever I want. Yeah. And that just went crazy with anything. Then I was up. I was awake for the rest of. rest of the year. I don't know what got us fucking into that.

Or why are we talking about that? Just you go with, wait, what? I don't know. You guys going over. I don't know. But I've talked about this enough. Yeah. Fucking, but it was, uh, oh, because this is like all of our, I guess, sort of our shit

times and like. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, and I mean, no. Yeah, bro. I mean, we all kind of went through some kind of like, oh, for sure. And the worst part is like none of us really knew. Like every once in a lot I'd be like, yo, I hope Bose is good. Dude, you want to know a crazy story?

Like once every three months. You want to know a crazy-ass story? So one day, like, I'm just like, I think it was like I was probably arguing my girl. Like, this was just like, like, I was just going through so much. Like, I wanted to play cod. I wasn't on a team. I was just going through, like living on my own. I'm bored.

Like, I don't really have much. Like, I got, I got shit, but like, I'm not living. Like, with nobody. We don't really talk. I'm on my own. having my own little life and then one day I'm just like bro I just like started going

fucking nuts like just one week I literally like I'm almost positive I was about like one wrong decision from losing my mind like I'm not trolling like I bro it was like one in the morning I'm not like drunk or anything but like I'm driving I'm just so mad

like I got tears in my eyes and shit like I'm just like tweaking bro just cutting people off like just driving crazy like tweaking and I like I had I just randomly stopped and uh you know where the sports authority is i was living downtown but i drove up but you know the sports authority is in plano by our old house off the tollway like yeah yeah yeah the proger is and yeah stopping shit i like parked in that lot like three in the morning and was just

like sitting there just thinking like like like it was more so like fuck like is all these like i was thinking the whole time like fuck like are these sacrifices worth yeah everything i'm going through So at what point does R&L come up? R&L came when, well, R&L was still going on. Or this, I'm talking about this was after R&L came. Oh, really? Really? Wow.

Well, no, when I was living with you guys in the house, like, I was fine. Like, I had, I had a, I would just got into the relationship. Like, everything was going good. But once I moved to that first apartment, my first apartment out here. Yeah. Or my second one, I guess, is like, during the end of that is when I started going, like, shit and then downtown too I went crazy

why do you think that happens uh because it's like someone would look obviously think of it from a bot mpc fan fan brain like you got you got everything yeah it sounds so fucked yeah it sounds so fuck but I think I blame it on

like I got into a relationship like I didn't take my time with the relationship like we started talking I immediately liked her and then like I just threw my all to it so I invested everything like I did that my emotions everything into it.

Then it went away, then you went crazy. Anything that went wrong, like if we argued or anything, my day was fucked. Yeah. Like, you got what I'm saying?

Like, yeah. Like, my day basically, like, reflected on hers, like, and I was just,

like, a bad, like, but I think that happened because, like, emotionally, like,

me trusting people, just, like, it tightened me up. Like, now no one could breach that. Yeah. Yeah,

I'm too, like, like, I need to go through that. I had to. I kind of think about that with, like, my first girlfriend. I mean, I don't know if this was you're talking about, but, like, my first girlfriend, like, I, when we broke up,

and then I know she's, like, hanging out with other dudes, fucking doing whatever she's doing with other dudes. That used to fuck with me hard. Like, I hate that. That was still hitting you in the scuff house, too. I'm going to keep it a bean. I'm going to keep it all the way real. that's what like was also a part of my like going

I mean that happens with every it happens with every guy until the location we I'm telling you don't do it I think that happens with every guy it's that not do that because I'm coming that's the worst fucking part but I think I've gotten good with that my last two relationships

it's like we break up and it's like I know I know not to keep texting her I know what's happening I know this is the real world we live in. I'm kind of doing the same thing as well or at least trying to. It's fucking hard out here. But like I'm kind of sort of doing the same thing, but it's just like at that point it's just like almost like we're all adults at this fucking point. And I'm not no longer going to be following you and checking your shit and liking your shit and occasionally texting.

Like it's dead. When I break up, it's over with we'll probably never speak again. Yeah. I mean that's yeah. That's that's that's, that's, I think. I think that's what happens when you get older. Because it's like, you understand it. Whenever my first girlfriend broke up, well, my only real, like, huge relationship prior to Alexis was when she broke up with me, dog, it was like, it took like, it took like two years.

Like, it really took a lot. It took a long fucking time for me to, like, finally, like, get over. Like, and this is me living in the scuff house, too. Yeah, yeah. Like, so, like, I'm partying for the first time of my life. I'm talking to people. I'm seeing more people coming up to me at events. I'm signing autographs for the first time of my life,

but still in the back of my mind, I'm just like, I'm like, but she could come here, though. Like, she could come to Chicago, but like, she's like,

she's like a doctor and shit now. She's married, but like, so she, she, she, like, went on her own path. And I think she was,

that was when she learned, like, just drop it and go. And, like, I wasn't like that. That's my best advice to anyone is that you don't have to block them because, like,

blocking shows this, like, some emotional side. I mean, but I say just mute them, never see them again. Don't even, even their friends mute their friends.

Like, don't see them popping up. And over time, it's just like, fuck it. Now I don't get, I genuinely don't give a fuck. Like,

if they could become porn stars. Like, I wouldn't. I wouldn't give a fuck. And I really wouldn't. But I'm also like, with the exception, with one exception,

I'm pretty, like, civil with my exes. So, like, I want the best. Like, if she randomly hit him up,

like, No, like, I really need five beans. Like, I need you to help me. I would do it. I honestly would. I wouldn't do that, but I would try to help it. Five bands give me $5,000, right? 500.

Like, I got, I got $15. I got $15. I could give you cholet with quack. But, you know, I'm saying like life or death, like dire situation. For sure, for sure. But, like, yeah, I mean. Yeah, I don't got nothing against any of them. But it's just, it's just the easiest and best advice.

I feel like I could give someone just, like, them never text them again don't link up with them again you got to pretend the shit is so hard i'd pretend they die is hard i mean you always have to like literally in your emotional they did die and your emotional life they died yeah like do they exist anymore if you don't acknowledge them right no you can't like i've tried i've tried to be like friends like right after it's not it's like not possible it's just not possible in my opinion i mean maybe some people would you know like parting amically I was botted man

I can't believe it is what like I was bodded I almost got turned like I went from good guy to I was slowly turning it to MPC You just got botted it was close bro like I like I always used to say

like when we'd argue and shit I'd be like when I calm down on shit I'm like bro I'm I would be like motherfucker you're making me forget who I am I do like I I know who I am. What's crazy is I've never argued.

This is Bose. Like, why the fuck am I going through this? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like I feel like I've never really argued. I kind of like, I was in a feral relationship at one point. Like,

it was like, like, like I'd come home and like, we're ripping each other's like, valuables apart and yelling at each other. And like, I'm calling,

I'm calling Brandon, like, like, really bad. Like, it was, it was, really, really bad.

That's never been a part of anything like that. But the thing is, is like, since I went through that, like, I was the guy that, like, we, we lived an hour apart. And so at one point, like, she was like, not like, I'm not talking to the rest of the night. And so I drove from my college to her college an hour away. And I was texting her like, I'm here. I'm outside. And she wouldn't, she wasn't acknowledging it. And so I'm just like freaking out in the parking lot, an hour away from my home. And I'm just like, do I sleep in the car? Like I punched, at one point I punched my windshield because I was so mad and the

windshield broke from the inside. It's completely snapped. And I had to, my mom was probably going to hear this, but I had to lie to my mom and tell me a rock hit my window. Like I was really, really in a bad spot. Oh, yeah. That's the bad thing about that kind of shit is like I caught myself doing that one time, like driving.

And I was like, yeah, I'm on the way, straight up. Like, I'm not going to keep calling me and ruining my, like, as soon as it comes down you're not going to ruin my today or tomorrow right i'm gonna go to you right now we'll just figure it up so i go that happens like oh oh bad shit happened i'm flying back home 120 i get pulled over i get a ticket and now i'm even more that's rock bottom like that sounds like yeah yeah at that point i'm like it starts raining at that point i'm like so enraged you're so mad that tears are coming to the cop yeah i didn't even talk to him i'm like yeah that's crazy yeah i didn't give a fuck But I mean, I'm glad that I'm glad that I got that out of my system because literally never been like that since.

Like for the last 10 years, I've never. Well, I've gotten mad like four times ever over the last. And I used to be mad all the time. It's just, I don't know. I feel like it's part of it. For my situation, it was part of being young. I don't know if it's like for everybody. Maybe it's just like part of like first love or you get gas.

I had like a serious relationship before that. So like, but I was young in that relationship. so I don't really know. But like, yeah, the last one, though, was like, now I know, like, bro, if you're not gonna, like, I'm, now I'm 27 now. I'm not dating to fucking fuck around. Yeah, just to date.

Like, we're not fucking around. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're going to be my girlfriend, like, we got to take this serious. Or you could just be someone I'm going to text and just, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's either one or the other, bro. Like, can't, you know. Because once you get that title, bro, that's when, like, your emotions and all the

bullshit get attached. then like how you not like my job is to play the game motherfucker you're not why don't you want me on the game that makes no sense to me i can't get it you know what i'm saying like for real but yeah i like where i'm at right now like she tells me she's proud of me and shit how yeah like that's good wait speaking of let's do a little update how is the fitness journey just for a little update for the fuck ass fucking this is this is what is this day 23 yeah uh i mean same fucking shit Same grind, woke up today, hit legs, then did 35 minutes of incline cardio, then did like stretching for 10, 50 minutes and sauna for 50 minutes.

Like, I'm there for fucking damn near three hours. I told myself minimum. I told myself. Every day. I'm going to go to the watch party. I'm going to do what I got to do. Then I'm going to go film some pine park stuff. When I get back, bro, even if it's because I get up early, sometimes I'm at six.

Yeah. I'm going to just hit the machine. machine for like 30. I'm gonna order a sweat suit on Amazon and just or whatever the hell it's called sweatsuit. With the bag? Yeah. And I'm gonna just at least try to start at like 30 minutes a day. I mean you don't even need that. Just I need it. I mean like the bag and stuff. I mean I want it though. I need to sweat it out. Just to like no it's this shit's working. So did you do you walk to you walk to work today? Yeah. Did you walk to work? I mean I was I was streaming right before this so I had to drive here. Yeah, I walked to work today.

So on a better note, besides all of your... You walked toward. Yeah. No, you didn't. I forgot. No, you didn't. Yeah, I did. You walked from Frisco to here.

No, you fucking didn't. Wait, did you really, though? Because I might believe you. Wait, you... Bro, you were walking since 1 p.m.? 1 p.m. 1 a.m. It's 30 miles.

Oh, yeah. I woke up at 1 p. I woke about 3 a.m. and started walking at 4. No, you didn't. Just to prove you that I could walk to... This is why he asked about my update. He didn't give a fuck.

He just knew it would come to this. I did not give a fuck. That's actually insane. All right. Look at the top bar. Read that out for me. Top 31 miles. 10 hours and

50 minutes. Dude What was it like Like any music I listened to like Two podcasts Where did you walk like on this Just the side of the free

I literally put in Apple Maps Like from Fresco To To downtown And then put it on a walk And just walked Like it We were on the tollway

I was like on the side Like the side streets Of the highway Dude I could have did that for a video Yeah that's what I did I did it for a video Did you? You want to see my pinky toe

Yeah It's the Crip dog is a blister Damn, I am, that's crazy Bro, it's a blister Literally the whole reason I did it It's to say, yo Nick Did you walk to work?

That took almost 11 hours Holy- What the fuck Bro I mean there's gotta be some kind of like Look at this shit That is my You see that

Oh my God The whole pinky toe The whole pinky toe The whole Pinky toe is a blister. This toe is like upside. My God. Dog, I'm telling you, it was the hardest thing I've ever done.

The hardest thing I've ever done in my life. How often did you think about quitting? So like the premise of the video is like I run, I complete a marathon without training. Like that's the video. Wait, that's part of it? That's what I'm doing. So like it just like 26.2 miles.

And then I, so I put in the, how long it is. It's like 28 miles. I was like, oh, shit, I could just walk to the downtown. Ow! So I did that. But so the hardest part was when I finished the marathon, 26.2. And I looked at my glotch and I was like, yeah, do it. And I check my phone because it goes to AAC.

And I still have 4.2 miles left. And I was when you got here? Yeah, when I, when I finished the marathon. So I finished 26.2 miles. and I still have four more miles because it was 30 miles away. Those, it was like, dog, it was like time wasn't moving. I, so I've been trying not to limp since, as I didn't want you to be like, why are you limping? But like, I can't.

Hitch's hips, dude. I mean, he can't feel that. I bet you when you put on those slides, it was the best feeling ever. Dude, I would, so I walked to Rogers house. Yeah, you probably did not prepare yourself with like the feet and the saw. No, and I did. I had really nice shoes, really nice socks. I packed like, like, two sandwiches and like four bottles of water.

That is fucking. I wore that backpack the whole way here. Dude, I'm toast tomorrow. I'm toast. I am impressed. Those are the things. That's what I like to see. All right.

So you walk to the excurs? No. I drove here. That's a walk. Dude, it was Bro. Most I've ever walked It was four miles, I think

And it was with Pomage. Really? I think so. And dude. Four miles is not That was a walk. It was crazy to see like how often

Like I knew where we were. The sun came up Or I knew where I was. The sun came up at the Did you guys do the hockey shoot? Yeah. The sun came up While I was walking past that hockey place.

And then like two hours later I'm walking past Abel's where Abel cuts hair Like it was dude it was insane It was insane Wait when'd you start walking 4 a.m.

So and then by what time were you by Abel? You were like I got a flycast at 3 Let me start walking at That's why I pushed the flycast today Because it was supposed to be at 10 a.m And I was like yo can we do it at like 3 What time was it? Yeah no I'm not on nothing

right now but I got it my workout and cardio dude oh so I passed ables I passed ables at 9 a.m. That's five hours deep you know what I'm a shouldn't but there's a shot you can get every week that the Kardashians use and it like stimulates your appetite and so you just lose body fat rapidly

and if you do if you just start hitting weights, you get a cheat code with the butt shot that the Kim Kardashians use. Do a little bit of cardio, e-claim, dude, you would fucking shred down quick. What's the shot call? Well, don't give them the sauce out yet. Yeah, don't get it.

I won't give them the sauce. Is it over a grand per shot? Or is it like 250? I don't know. No, it's not that. It's not going to be like anything that crazy expensive. Okay. I was wondering. I thought about doing it, but I was like, am I cheating for this video? Yes. That would be cheating.

I definitely don't need to do it. I don't need to do steroids. No. I wouldn't even feel good doing it. If like to do steroids, like yes, it'll help me get the results I want quicker, but like it just,

then I would get there and be like, I don't do steroids. Just not, like it's going to be such a good feeling when I finally get there. Like I was like imagining, I think it was like when I was in the sauna or fucking working out today.

I was like imagining this being my last workout. and how I'm going to feel and how I'm going to cry on camera and all this other shit of just like accomplishing this hard-ass fucking goal for me. Yeah, that was me when I got to Rogers' house. Yeah.

I was like, dog. Wait, so you did the marathon? You swam? No, no, just a marathon. They're just 30 miles today. So you just did 30 miles today. Yeah, just 30 miles. When you were walking up to Rogers' house,

you were so happy. Dog, I'm limping to Rogers' house. And what's the goal? What's the goal? Or like, the video, doing a marathon without training. Yeah, but also like to prank you as the premise of the video. So get pranked, idiot.

I mean, you got me. That fucking pinky toe got me. So this is just the video. Like that, the video is just. Completing a marathon without training is the video, but in the video, I'm going to be like, this is my friend Nick. He's on his, he's always brags about walking to work. So I decided to one up and walk to work too.

I live 30 miles away. I got to start, I got to start writing shit down. Or do you give me, is and let me do them but that is a good that's a good you walk to the hexquers yeah now you walk to X quarters

I challenge you to walk 30 don't do it dead ass don't do it that's a good series Matt you want to do it I would fucking do it the walk he said fuck no

what time are we at you could be good kind of wanted to talk about rich and lonely what's it like being the rich the second richest person in optic now. Scump, you, then, heck. No, I'm not.

The drop went well? Yeah. I fucking course, dude. I fucking knew this drug. I didn't scomp. He gave me the extra. Yeah. Like,

Arnaud's dope. Don't put me in the position right now. That's the thing. He doesn't have to either. That's the thing. He can do that with anybody. Yeah. So you got to tip your hat to the kid.

That's facts. He literally do that with anybody. anybody you want he says i like you you come yeah whenever i was talking about it when the watch party started popping i was like so where's up from here yeah he was like i want every he was like i want everyone in here on the podcast bro and it's like he could get anyone like he could he hit up tim the tap man he could all these people celebrity you name right he can get anybody bro that's why i was like scump is a real one yeah like i mean well yeah the drop one good i'm like i said i appreciate everyone's support on it obviously you know if it was just me it would have did good but like

you know there's levels of being what's yeah literally like so like obviously scum propelled it um but yeah like even like i got to give a shout out to scump for real grab me on the watch party i mean he has the co-stream he's doing a merch collab with me like so uh i got to give a big shout out to set maybe we'll get scump here next week maybe is he available i know he's not he's not Is he ever fucking available? He'll probably do it. He'll probably do it. I think he'd be down.

It just has to, whatever time, I'll make it work. Or I'm down for whatever time. Whatever time, scumpy needs. I'll go to his house. I'm down for that. That might make it better. Go to his fucking mansion. Yeah.

But so Arnell, like, whenever you started it, was that like a, I'm not really like playing anymore because I don't like it was just it was more of like you had some balls starting that fuck like bro like nobody else did it yeah like I needed I needed to do something like I so my old my big thing with merch was always how the fuck am I gonna make embos on a shirt it's too hard yeah I need to come up with like an actual line so bro literally one day I'm in the backyard smoking where and we're just like I don't need to come out with some shit man I think I don't know if I said or he said like like I don't know if I said or he said like like I don't know if I said or he said like like I like rich and lonely but Aaron came out with the logo which was that was the name is who you know Aaron came up with Aaron came up with yeah he he has like he's got that creative Jesus yes that you like I can never be on his level with that kind of shit you know what I'm saying so yeah man and Aaron too he kills it I mean him I mean Aaron and uh Bosco um without them shit I mean Bosco he's gonna he understands like the business aspect of things uh handles all the production all that just like number crunching and just like business knowledge i could pretty much ask them anything

you know i have harran that's gonna you know drop down shit yeah one text yeah yeah i'm working on it yeah i locked in set he's like i'll bring the people i'll get the collabs yeah we're all the team that's for sure yeah it's crazy how much it pop it how good it was doing when it wasn't even like obviously you do a collab with someone like scump it's gonna pop you do a collab with someone like Zinny, he has a good following Like it's gonna do well Half of scumbs, maybe a little lower I know, I'm just

I know, I was gonna say like maybe an eighth Yeah, probably 20th or maybe It's not, bro, at the end of the day We all know this shit It's not hard It's hard as fuck to sell things to people It is like period

People wonder why you If you have core supporters It's a little different It's like core supporters I mean people that fuck with you Not because you're on a option People that fuck with you. It's gonna be a little easier.

But like, bro, that shit is hard. Like, hard meaning, okay, you'll have a drop in January. The next month, if you drop it again, it's probably not gonna do good, bro. People gotta get paid. Like, there's a process behind this shit. You know what I'm saying? So like, yeah, I mean, at first we were dropping too much

and just like, I was just hyped to do it. But now, like we're starting to understand the process. And really, like I said, I depend on Aaron and Bosco. They have the vision. Like, I'm not, if I see something I don't like, I'll say it. But like, sometimes I'll be like, yo, Aaron, why don't we switch this to this? He'll be like, how am I going to, why would I put black text on a black hoodie? And I'm like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, my fault. That's a dumb question. Yeah, yeah, I get that. So I need them too. Like, they're super big help. But like, yeah, this was definitely the biggest drop. I've ever been a part of. Scump said him too.

So. Damn. Fuck. Like I said, I appreciate Scump. Are we going to get any? Yes, man. What do you want? What?

what dig into it uh just bring a box here i think i think i think i think the next drop is probably like a flycast drop yeah i mean let's do it let's just plan it right now like do you want to do it i well i do the flycast needs to drop yes yes all right and we we would because we don't drop like individual stuff like i drop tc stuff he drops bt h stuff but he doesn't drop btage stuff he just i do what drop a year yeah he that's my spring drops coming up i know you guys want to do something. We'll figure it out.

We'll figure it out. We should do like a flycast one. Rich and fly. Rich and lonely fly case. I think, and this will be like, this ain't some shit that you can just regularly get. This might be a once in a lifetime opportunity. Yes.

So if you fuck with the fly cast, you got to fuck and you definitely fuck with rich and lonely. You're going to have to cop. You have to. If you bought one of sets, you have to buy one of the guys. Exactly. I'm expecting matching.

I'm expecting. matching sale numbers when it comes to our shit. Well, fuck. I guess it's going to do it for the flycast. Episode 71. 71. God, man. It goes so slow. We've been doing this.

A long time. We've been doing this forever. We're only on 71. Damn. Well, thank you guys so much for watching Bose. Thanks for joining, man. We're glad you made it. We know Paige didn't remind you. I just fucking... You know, on the sheet it says 10.

But in Texas has three. Yeah. Sorry, I had to push that because I was walking 30 miles. Yeah. And that. All right. Thank you guys so much to watch her. Matt Craig.

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