The Flycast - The Full Story of Pred Rejoining OpTic | The Flycast Ep. 137

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

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I think having the talent, any competition, having the talent is like not even half of what it takes. Now, 100%. How many talented-ass people are you're like, the raw talent of that person is insane, but they don't have. They never get to that. There's so many players like that. Yeah. You can probably go down Call of Duty, Halo, and just think of insanely talented players. But they just never had that kick.

Something about their mental was just like they'd shut down. It's like that in any game. Like there's probably, any sport. There has been a, there has been a player. out there, a soccer player born that was better than messy. Oh, for sure. But, like, he just never wanted to play, or he didn't

care, or he started smoking... Hanged around the wrong crowd. He started smoking weed. Fuck. 100%. That was me. You're the messy. I'm just like, wait a second. Wait, wait. Are you, um...

Yeah, where are you at now? Where are you going to be? I go to house 10 minutes from here. Got a fucking house? Yeah, I go to house 10 minutes from me. It's really nice. I just need a brother. Anything that else?

Like you bought a house? Yeah, bought a house. What the fuck? Yeah. It's like 10 minutes from here. Didn't you just get back? Yeah, but that.

You're just like, I think I'm gonna just buy this. Nah, yeah, because I just go. I'm just, I'm just, I don't know,

she took over my life. I'm gone on. What? Ant's mom did? Yeah. She just done everything for me. Wait, are we recorded?

Yep. Okay. Well, I'll show you. Dude, what the fuck? It's, um, You just come back and you just buy a house

I would say we could throw this up here But I don't know Yeah let's show us house Motherfuckers will figure this shit out Throw his address up there Like you're all moved in and everything Yeah yeah I'm just getting like um Like my mom today's gonna go get some furniture and stuff like that

Are you beside aunt or like No no no An lives in Irving bro Ant lives in Irving Do people know that Um People You know it's weird

Whenever Zinie Or I feel like I are on stream with Zinny. And he'll be like, don't show the apartment, like, keep the phone down whenever we're like near. And I'm like, I guess maybe it's different for him. But I just like don't care anymore. I'm like who's maybe I'm talking for me because I'll get on stream and I'll have 200, 300, 300 viewers. So it's not like I have a couple thousand and like I just don't think people give a shit about me anymore. I'm like, I could, I'll say my apartment and my apartment number and I guarantee nothing is going to happen to me.

Yeah. You don't know. But I don't actually. But don't say it, though. But I'm not going to say it. But think about it. It happens to people that don't even have any of that things. Like Twitch, followers, and not even like a spec of them.

You know what I mean? And they get pulled up on. Maybe someone sold them outside. Especially girls and shit. Oh, man, girls. It'll be a girl with like 60 viewers, but she'll just have that one fucking... All it takes is one. All it takes is one.

Well, we got Pred on the Flycast, man. This has been a long... This has been a long. time coming. I know. We wanted to do this I mean whenever you first joined probably. Honestly I don't think it's my first one I'm pretty sure yeah last we just had hook on man. Yeah. That's insane. We just

we just Why don't first off I'm not trying to say that as if like That was actually the last one or it's real life shit that hook I'm not trying to laugh at him being gone. No no no no it's just It's just insane how This shit has fucking worked out The past few months You've had a crazy couple months

Oh yeah If there's a movie Then this movie's still going Your documentary is about to be insane In like 10 years though Yeah You got 10 more years in you Hopefully

How old he is He's like this one knocked me down a few years Last a few years That's how Bro I'm getting When I was showering this morning talking about a few years left. I was showering this morning.

I was like rubbing my hair and fucking hair was falling out. And I was like, is this it? Is this the end? No. There's no way I only have like a couple more years. A couple more years left with the hair. But you just got a turkey anyway, fix that shit up. It'll be back in the nighttime.

Bose wants to do a trip. Does it actually? To turkey? Yeah. I don't know. Dude, bro. Do you have any issues up there? No, I've been there.

I don't. I don't yet. I don't yet. My dad was, my dad was balding at like, at like 35, though. But you know where you get your head genetics from?

It's actually from your mom's dad. Then I'm good. He had a full head of hair. He had a full head of hair. Almost 100% of his life. Almost 100%. Then you're good. I'm probably good genetics.

You're good head genetics. I feel like I don't remember. We had decent. We have decent hair in the family, but I mean, my brother's shit is pushed back. I might. the next, no. It's fucking scary.

Do redhead's bald and shit? I've never seen it. Bill Burr. Hmm. Bill Burr. Yeah, redhead's bald. I'm scared, though. It might be this. It might be coming up on it, man. Alexis is getting white hairs, so that's why

I was asking you. Like, are you going to go full white before you start balding, or you're going to start bald in it first? That shit's insane. Like, how old's apathy? Oh, yeah, he does. He's got a full, oh, yeah, he does. Wait, can you that dude is, I fuck with him heavily. But that Dude, is Santa Claus.

Is he really? Apathy's hair? He's 30. Do you ever compete against apathy? Nah, no, no, I did actually. My first ever time when I was 18, I screamed against his team. Only screamed, though. When I was an amateur.

He's 30. He looks good. He's in good shape, but it's just insane. Is that hair genetic? Have you not clicked on his stream and saw his white hair? I haven't seen him in a bit. Dude, his hair is like white, white. And like...

Yeah, by the time he's like 45, it might be like... Literally, can you find a... Like platinum? This is such a... Oh, yeah! I know he's got some... I mean, he looks good, man. His hair line's good.

It's just... Absiglu can go out. You can tell that some people can rock it. Oh, he can rock the shit out of it. Like Blake's dad, Blake always likes to say that, you know, he's probably going to be a full head of white pretty soon because his dad was...

His dad was full white head before he hit 30. Like 28. 28, full white. Oh, 28. How old are you pretty? I'm 23. What the fuck? I was thinking like, and I end up saying that after I hear everyone's age.

Yeah. Because someone, they'll just be like, 23 is kind of crazy. 23 is crazy. Wait, I think, did we have this conversation before? Aren't you younger than aunt? How old's aunt? I actually don't know, bro. I think I'm a few months older than aunt.

I could be wrong, actually. It's his birthday? Age 23. Oh, yeah, I'm a month. No, yeah, he's older than me. What? What? I'm an month older than me.

Oh my God. I'm a, yeah, Anton month older than me. Yeah, man, you still got a while in this shit, huh? I'm actually the youngest in the team. Damn.

I didn't even think of that. You would never think that. So how, I didn't even know that? How's Screm's bad and since you came back? Bro, I came off a fucking 16, 17-hour flight. Literally, by the way,

that flight, if you guys ever encounter it, don't get me wrong. Going to Australia is beautiful. And you guys should all do it one time in your life because I know you guys would love it. especially just because, like, I've never seen anyone say anything bad about it, and it's just, I don't know, it's an amazing place. For sure.

It's so amazing. You'll say something bad about it? No. Well, I probably will, but you might. I'm going to go to Australia one day for sure. Don't ever doubt his negativity. I'll find something. He'll find something.

You probably will, but like the positives will overwhelm the negatives. But the flight is horrendous. That's probably the thing you're going to say that is, like, awful. Anyways, but as soon as I got off the flight, dropped my stuff off, came straight into office, popped the two red bulls and straight into a scrim. bro my brain was fucking moving at fucking like point two five like I was literally an mpc but we scrimmed that day actually did not too bad and then yesterday was our kind of like our first official like date of screaming we did pretty good like obviously it's just like a

everything's happening so quick so we're just trying to get like the just like iron out the creases you know what I'm saying but everything's happening quick as shit yeah bro so for us it's like we understand what we're capable of what we can do it's just about um ironing it all out and then making sure by the time the tournament comes around like the week of the tournament we can go, like confidently say and look at each other, like, yeah, we can win this one. That's what we're, like, striving for. So, yeah, we know we can do it. We're all excited to be playing.

When you went home, was there any form of, like, practice in a team setting? Nah, man. Them in Australia, bro. Just fucking solo ranked. Yeah, I was playing. Solo ranked? What's your ping out there? Mind freak guys? No, I was getting good ping.

But, yeah, just mind freak. I played maybe a few eights and just rank play, bro. It was like, there's no form of practice. Like, I never called out. For a whole month and a half, I didn't call out. Holy shit. Is it just a different, when you go to Australia, is that you're just playing people you've never played before?

Like, you're not playing, like, top 250 kids? Yeah. You know what I'm trying to say? Like, you're not hitting this region. No, no, no, no, no. It's put you in games with that Australian. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, bro. Because it'd be on, like, 290 ping if I played over here.

Like, people come here. So, yeah, in terms of, like, practice, in Australia, there is some good plays. There is some good players, but, yeah, it's just not. like the yeah we'll get into how you fucking if you were the coach if you were the coach and the captain of an Australian World Cup team first for Call of Duty yeah who would be your three who would be your three teammates my three team obviously you're on the squad just right off the bat right off the bat okay it would be I'd get fighter which is like the OG okay fighter I would get him I would get crimza I would get crimza he's another he's another

kid that plays. He's another kid that plays. Just play sometimes. And I would get my little brother. I would get my little brother. Titan. Yeah? Yeah, I'll get my little brother.

Like actually a little brother? Yeah, like he's 2018 this year. And I actually generally think he's pretty good. But I have to see like how much he wants it. So, yeah. God, that'd be so cool. I'd be fired. To have a low pred.

What's his gamer tag? Titan. Titan? Alien. Titan. Yeah, Titan. Yeah, Titan. Would you make him change his shit to Little Pred?

No. Little Pred. Dude, that was like he's so fire. And like five years from now, it's just like Prad, Little Pred. I don't know. For me, it would be cool, but like I said at the day, I'm not like someone that would like push a dream. Like, for example, I'd make it feel selfish if I wanted him to come do what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying?

And obviously you have to be lucky. It's not like you can just walk in and come do it. Yeah. But it would be cool. But I know he has a, like he loves it. You know, he loves playing. I was about to say this. he have like the passion for

everyone sort of likes playing especially when you're at that age but is there like an e-sports passionate side to where he's like looking at theater and shit yeah now he loves it now he loves it because I've walked into his room and I've it sounds like he's in fucking champ sometimes

I'm like bro what's going on in it? He's like oh yeah he's just playing an age or something like bro holy shit that's so cool I was always so jealous of like I mean how many people were there there was like Roy Lunch the ogre twins of like brothers that had success

Arsides and Pristini. Yeah. They want to war championship together. I mean, that's probably the pinnacle. Yeah, that's fucking life. You can't like... Did they? Yeah, bro.

Black was four. That is a fucking vibe. Imagine winning a war championship before. Who else was there? There's gotta be more... In Codd, that's all I know. That I think that I can... I just think that would be so fucking cool.

No, it would be. That's like... It's just funny if you play each other. Like, see, Alec and Pristini played it in the same team. I don't know if they ever played. I think they probably did. They played together even in... I think, I don't know what's here.

On the Huntsman. Yeah. Yeah, I remember seeing them, like, play each other. I think Arsity's won, Pristini loss, and, like, Pristini was crying, and then, like, Rastis is, like, they're both crying. And then I'm crying. They're different. They're twins.

I'm fucking. Twins have a weird. Twins have, like, a different connection than brothers do. But I don't have any. I mean, I feel like the brothers that have played have been twins. Roy Luntch, ogres. That's true. It's, like, the Suda twins.

Bro, every brother Is a twin Yeah, it's like if they're not twins They don't really They show the same brain You think that's an advantage You think if you and your brother played together

There'd be some like I mean twins for sure Yeah But do you think as a brother You would have some fucking advantage of like I know how this motherfucker thinks Yeah

For sure He would never be able to be me Or would it Scrabs and Waskin Oh yep Scrabs and Waskin yeah He said he's He'd never be able to beat you?

Oh, so if you were playing against him, they're just easy fucking reads left there, right? Bro, is my little brother, bro. Wait, who else was it, Matt? Waskins and Scraps. Are they twins as well? They're twins, no? They look alike, though. I don't know if they're twins.

They look alike. No, I don't think they are. Well, twins. They are. They're twins. They're twins. They're all twins. What the hell.

Did we just crack the e-sports coat? You just got to have twins. That's actually crazy There's not a single brother Like two brothers that are not twins That are like Bro having a twin would mind Fuck me

Like I can't even imagine what that's like Like just Imagine waking up one day You look in the mirror But it's actually in behind you Yeah like that's such a weird concept To just have your identical Self

Just in another human form What do you think about the twins In the world that marry other twins? Oh I've seen seen that. You've seen that? Shit gets weird. And why is it,

why is it that we all think about sex when that happens? Why? That's immediately what I think. A set of twins marries another set of twins and for some reason

my warped mind is like but how do they, so what's the deal there? Yeah, there's something really. Do the kids look like the twins? Did the kids end up being tense?

And then the, yeah, are the kids twins? I don't know. I don't. Can you look, I think there's one. She could be weird with that. Twins that.

Twins that marry twins. Just look that up and then click images. Twins that marries twins kids. Yes. I'm actually curious now because I wonder if the kids don't have to be twins. I guess genetically. They kind of pop out very similar. Genetically, they're...

Are they brothers? Yeah, look, like these couple is what I was thinking of. Oh, my God. They still dress? I don't know which ones. I just know they have fantasies about like each other's partners and shit. Like you have to You have to

You think so Absolutely Is it fantasy or do they just indulge Is it just a free for all And now I That's what I'm saying Like I feel like that Like whoever

I think that's you One of these couples I don't know if it's this couple Lives together Or at least that's the headline I read They married each other And they live together In the same house

Yeah I'll get so confused If we wake up in the morning, you're tired. I wouldn't know which turns my wife, dude. Like smack ass. It's not your wife, but she liked it because she thinks you're her husband. And then you pretend to be her husband and you just play dumb all the time with your horny ass. Yeah, what would the kids be?

Would that be fucking... They would be, I think, genetically they would be brothers. Right? Maybe, bro. instead of cousins I don't know if that's how That's too much brain power for me They wouldn't actually be brothers

But their genetics would say Would would would Would would say would would would Is that right Matt? Yeah Yeah Two sets of identical twins marry and have children Their kids likely or share a significant amount of genetic

They really make them appear more alike than typical cousins Okay so I mean The big cousins They look alike more Yeah Because they have the same genetic Their mom and dad have the same genetics

Yeah My God It's nuts Well I don't know how we got down this But All right man Well Pred you fucking

Was there Come back from Australia You hop right into scrims Was there any Were you nervous Was there any Pressure That you used to not have

And then it's like, damn, first day back. Yeah. It's like, you know, when you go back to school for the first time or like, something like that. Yeah. It's like the first day of school. But I don't know. For me, it's like, it's more of an excitement, like, feeling. And I think it makes it a little bit more easier just because of like, like, as I spoke to the boys before I came.

So like everyone, we all had conversations and like, it's just like there was like a level of excitement. But there was a bit of nervousness. Of course. I mean, I haven't seen anyone in a month and a half. Everything's happened so quick. So I was a little bit nervous But I think the excitement just ruled it over Because like I was just happy to be back

And just in a situation where I can win and stuff You know so for me it was like That was like the biggest factor for me You just I just can't wait to play man And yeah that to me is Massive so yeah It was a bit nervous though Definitely a little bit

Were you ever Because I feel like taking You were you were going what too much of just like no practice really. Yeah. Were you, did you feel behind? Bro, you know me. Even if I was, I never fucking say that.

You know me? There's one person that was walking to that room thinking that they've been playing every day. It's fucking me. So I went in there just fuck it, like as if nothing happened. Were you playing well? I actually was generally. Obviously, maybe not to my standard, but it's not like I was getting fried. Like there were some maps where I'd play with actually really well.

And there was some like maps where I wouldn't even say I was like shooting bad or anything It was more like learning curves that makes sense like just like little adjustments But I actually generally overall like I was pretty impressed with myself I thought I'd be a bit like worse but I actually don't little rusty but yeah You're winning maps against some of the top teams and stuff like that I was like okay What would you say your what would you say your play style is as far as like because I've heard shots Like I feel like you're not a Agress you're aggressive

but there's like there's players like the hydras and the shatis and it's like they're sliding and they're looking fancy and they're what would you say your how are you so good with a with such a unique unique uniquely simple yeah i don't know man it's funny like even i sometimes have watched myself play and i'm like fuck bro it does not look like i'm 40 and 25 right now motherfuckers can not be, cannot look, they'll be 30 and 30, but like their POV, it just looks like they're fine. Yeah, yeah. Because every kill is just, they look

like they're fine. Yeah, I feel like for me, it's I'm not too sure. I generally don't know. It's very unique. I feel like for me over the years, I've realized like, when I first joined the league, I was just like, like a meathead, just running at everything I could see. And like, it works sometimes, sometimes I didn't. And then I

realized, like, I had to figure out, like, the balance of the speed, because when you have two subs that I just, just flying, flying, flying. It can be good. But at times, it can cause inconsistencies, whatever. So that's something that I thought about. In terms of my play style, I feel like, I don't know,

a lot of people say it's like I'm somewhat similar to Seth in a way, like the way I play. I can kind of see that. It's very like iron, iron heavy, you know, play your kill, guarantee you kill. Mini map focus. Because even with Seth, I never saw his gameplay. And I was like, oh, he's like, oh, he's playing really well. But it was never like a oh, he's fucking crack.

But you feel his presence on them. Like, we never play. Cracked. That's a good way of putting it. I never thought Seth was cracked ever. I watched him play for a long time. But it was always just like, Holy shit. Yeah, yeah.

He's killing everything. Like a lot of people have said somewhat similar to that. It's just that kind of like play style. But for me, yeah, it's very unique. Because like I said, I can't even really, it's just the way I play. It's not like I've gone out there and be like, I want to play this way.

It's just like natural. Did you ever try it? Did you ever like watch fucking Shotsie or Kyler or fucking Hydra play? And you're like, Maybe I should why why more. Nah, bro. Do you claw?

Slide around and shit. I've shit on end so many times. If I was like getting fried... If I was like getting fried... I'd say like early in the career, like your surge days and stuff. But even then, like if I joined the league and I was getting fried, I was like, fuck. But I was vanguard, I was probably my best game. So for me it was like, it kind of felt like what I was doing was like working in a way, you know?

So I've just went with it. But if I ever was getting fried, I'd be like, mm-hmm. Who is your sub... Who was your sub... Who's your subduo? Mac. Mac. Oh, okay.

Our Seattle team was crazy. And he was, I can't remember you guys' play style. He was faster or slower than you? Um, I actually don't know. I think he was slower. Slower? Yeah, I think you were kind of entry on that team? Yeah, that was entry on that team.

You like following up instead? Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah, I follow up. Like, like, Anne's pretty hard to be faster than. You can't even catch up. You can't even catch up. It can't be fast.

And it's probably like the one player in the league that you probably can never catch. So that's why I had to adjust my gameplay is because I'm like, okay, if this guy's fucking flying at the lot of speed, I need to like, you know, make sure that I'm doing what I need to do to like, and which fits my style anyway, because like let him fucking do all that flying

shit. And then I just come in, like, the cleanup crew, man. I just fucking clean up behind him. But yeah. Is there really roles like an entry SMG? Like, do teams really break it down like that? Nah, but it's just like a, like if is it like a natural thing of like

If you and Anne are both at a door and you know they're on the other side, you know he's flying in first. He naturally does it. Sometimes I will, but he naturally does it. So it's not like a, yeah, it's not like a, you go first. It's not something you talk about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, if we're in this situation, just let me go first.

Like obviously if I'm, if I've spawned up before him and I'm running running, running, and obviously he's spawned behind me, he's going to be naturally second. But there has obviously been times where maybe we spawned at the exact same time and we're running through a doorway. he naturally goes first because he probably gets at that door before me naturally just by his fucking little jumping in bullshit he's just

gets there fast right now he's jumping in bullshit so like he might get that first natural but like it's funny because it's just how we mean him like think like I don't know like he's like completely happy

of doing that and I'm completely happy of doing what I'm doing so like it's just like a natural thing but he just sometimes he gets to the spot quicker so then he just ends up going in but in terms of like roles

um is there a shitty role on a team No, bro Does Kenny have a shitty role To where he's like fuck I gotta fucking do you I'll watch over here

No one's gonna be over here Yeah I'll rotate I'll sit in the very fucking back And be involved in nothing There is sometimes where A certain player might do That that role a bit more than others Which it happens

You know It tends to happen sometimes But in terms of like Good cod consistent cod Is like if you're the first guy That spawnsie You need to go here Second guy you need to go here

Third guy here Fourth guy here And it's just repetitive You know, like no matter what gun you have in your hand, what you're doing, who you are, whatever it is, you have to do that. Because that just makes a consistent flow of the map. But there is sometimes where certain players might go out of their way to do certain things at times, which is okay. And sometimes it's not okay. But sometimes maybe that's what they're comfortable with.

Exactly. So like what people do might. Some people might do. If they don't know what's going on in the situation, they go to their natural tendency of like, okay, I like doing this when I don't know what's happening. So then this is to me like a comfort spot of doing this. and that's what sometimes people do and I think that's what separates good players from great players is like understanding when to do things

and when not to do things. And I think that's what like decides the team's winning or not. So that's something that our team really focuses on is like, oh, this guy that off-sport, you need to do this because if you don't, your other teammates are getting affected because now they'll lose the timing here, now they lose the timing here.

And it's very, very, very important that you can make sure you do that stuff. Do you think that's what made your team so good? Yeah. At least last year winning, fucking champs like yeah that you all eventually came to the conclusion of like you you were just on the same page about oh man hey we only we only lost half point once at champs i'm pretty sure and we were like nine and one and leading into that tournament i'll never forget it man we had three

maps re-e six star and karachi we had the number one seed i'm pretty no we didn't have the number one seat, sorry, we didn't have that moment. But when we put up to that tournament, I'll never forget thinking, like, our coach are coming in, what map do you guys want first? And I'd be like, bro, just put 6th-hour map on every fucking map. And if they don't want to put Karachi, whatever. And I just remember being so fucking confident that we're going to win that first map. I don't think we lost, I think we maybe lost one first map.

Other than that, like, I just remember our team being so fucking confident because our practice was just, like, unbelievable, like leading into chance. Like, we were fucking, honestly, we didn't like, like, bro, we were like 50 point clip and phase. like on the warm-up to champs. Like, at champs, warming up to go on stage.

When you would see the optic team, um, what was the event? Fucking, Madrid. Oh, Madrid. You would see them losing

and hard points. Were you watching the whole event? Honestly, I watched like, um, some, like I watched when they played sometimes. Like,

because the matches were like 4 a.m. So like, for me, I would watch like the rig broadcast. Like, I'd skim through it a little bit. But, Yeah, I was watching them lose.

And I was really, like, confusing what was really going on because they were looking pretty good online. You know, when they were playing online. But, yeah, I don't know. It was weird. It was good. It was good. It was tough to watch. Yeah.

Nah, bro. I just won champs. Yeah, yeah. And I'm not even at the next tournament. I didn't have fucking crazy. That was Annington, Madrid. Like, you know me. I love fucking my traveling.

You would have showed the fuck out. The crowd would have been going crazy. I love my traveling. And for me, like, just, but just seeing the boys, I just won champions. So those are people I went out to win champs with And then I wasn't there Like it just felt fucking weird And they probably felt weird too

Yeah Like that's their first time on land Since EWC I guess But like since like a champs With a big like a decent amount crowd And like I know they felt weird too I mean it didn't if I can say my name I pretty sure when they walked out

It said dashy, shots you candy And then pread But it was actually Carla standing Really? Like on the official broadcast How do they fuck that up? So then I was like Yeah it felt like even when I saw that one

I'm watching like bro You thought you were fucking. I'm like, what the fuck? You like, start rubbing your eyes? Stop me. Was there ever, was it ever a little shit that you were, like, like, I was saying about, like, the hard points where you would watch something they did? And then you just instantly be like, no, what the fuck, man, what the fuck are you guys? Like, were you ever getting mad?

Or were you low-key? And I want you to be honest here. Were you ever sitting there watching them lose? like, You can't do it without Papa. Nah, now, honestly, generally speaking,

like, I actually wasn't because I spoke to Aunt Pride. I, like, I wanted him to, like, I wanted them to all do well. And I honestly wasn't out there,

like, oh, man, I hope they get fucking fried. Like, for me, it's like, I wanted to just, wanted them to do well,

because I, I succeeded with them. I did some things with them that was like, we're going to remember for the rest of our lives. And I, I'm a big believer.

If you wish downfall on someone or some people, it comes back to you. You know, it comes bouncing back. I was just like, I was only to just confused, bro. Like, maybe like as everyone else was. Like, I felt like a, like how everyone else thinks, like in the, like, the people that

don't know what's going on in the camp and why they're actually losing. Obviously, I can see mini-map mistakes, but you can't, you don't know what the fuck's happening unless you're in that fucking camp, you know? And yeah, I was just confused and why the work was like, the teams are losing to in heart points, but like teams that they would like blow the water out like a couple weeks ago. So I was just confused. I mean, it is a. It's a new team, and then you're going from online to land.

And it does make a fucking difference, man. Even though people say, oh, Texas, they're playing on two ping. It's basically land anyway. Like, it's just shit can change once you get up on the stage. Oh, yeah. Did we get booed a little bit? I don't know if we got booed. It just, they were, the crowd was down to cheer.

The gentleman's crowds. We played gentlemen mates, which is like. Did we get booed or were they just being loud of shit for them? They probably boot everyone. Well, they only played one map. It's just one series. Sometimes it's just a little different when you get on that stage. And that's what genuinely, I feel like, and this is about to sound so cringe, but I feel like you add like an aura.

So cringe. An aura to the team, especially at events. Yeah. Like even just, I assume we can say this. But even just walking in here, you were talking to Hex and we're talking about the major that's coming up. Isn't that just coming up in a few weeks? Yeah, it comes up on March 20.

Make sure you guys get your fucking tickets, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Because Pred's going to be fucking showing out. And I say that because you were talking to Hax and you're talking about the stage and like how, you were asking him, how is the stage going to be set up? Are we looking at each other? And he was like, yeah, you'll be looking at each other.

And you're just like, fuck, yeah. Like, that's what I want. And I feel like that's the, why are you? you like that. Ah, man. That's like, that's the aura that I'm talking about

that I feel like this, I feel like those three players, like they need someone like you beside them. Yeah. For me, just a loud fucking, because everyone's sort of like

mild manner. Yeah, yeah. Like very loved you. And then there's fucking you just like. Yeah, like my teammates are like silent assassins. And then I think last year I got Ant to be a bit of a fucking hitman.

You got it. I think that actually might be what it was. But, um, you feel about like a poker. He's my hip man, my fucking number one hit man. Just send him out to do the job. But now for me, it's just like, I've been, just to my living, like, as a kid and stuff,

I've just been very competitive. Like, for me, I can't go out there. Like, for example, if someone's like to me, oh, let's go play ping pong. I couldn't play ping pong if I wasn't talking shit to that person whilst were playing. Like, I have to make it a thing where he wants to fucking beat me. I want him to want to feel like he beats me. And then him to talk shit to me because then I'm like, fuck, okay. Let's fucking play then.

And then we play, like, me and I play pickleball. Yeah, I was about to say, y'all. We played, like, what everyone does is they play to 11, right? Meant and played to 21 best of threes. But we're playing like the fucking tennis grand slams. By the time we finish these fucking pickleball sets, bro, we are fucking dying, like, on the floor. Like, but we are, like, that's the thing. For me, I'm just a very competitive person and I'm passionate about competing.

Like, I love competing. And for me, I'm a big thing on, like, I want my team to feel like unfuckable with. I want my team to feel like we're that fucking team like don't fucking even look at us like I'm just so big on that and I want the other team to feel like they're in a show

like when they play against us I want them to feel like oh man I feel like fucking July it I want them to feel like that I want them to feel like that when they play against us because I just I don't know

I just love the thought of like competing and even if you're even if your backs I feel like with you even if they're your backs against the wall say you lose Map 1 in Map 2 or just like Map 1 or something

I felt like our team would be losing those map 1 hard points and then I feel like everyone kind of sensed it to where we're like oh shit yeah like it almost felt like we were going into it obviously I don't fucking know I'm not there I'm not in the listen

listening I'm just fucking making shit up in my head but it almost felt like it was like oh shit they like sort of go into that show and you just don't see the we just weren't seeing the fire out of them that I guess we were seeing with you Yeah, no, for sure.

I think that's like, probably my biggest, like, attribute, like, besides my gameplay stuff, is, like, just simply the, like, what I bring to the team in time, like, in terms of this energy and just a feel of, like, how, like, everyone feels on stage and just leading up to tournaments. Like, for me, I'm a very big believer in that. If you have people that want to go out there and just fucking win for each other, like, it's so hard to lose, especially if the talent and, like, you know, the practice leading up to it is good. It's really hard to lose. And I feel like our team, I mean, we came.

second, third, first, first, second. And then we obviously had that one major four, which is like an anomaly event where we just played really bad. But other than that, like, yeah, I feel like our team, what I just love competing, man. There's nothing, there's nothing better for me than that. I'm just in love with it, honestly. Has it always been, like, a conscious thing for you?

Or has it always just been like your personality was just like, that's the type of person you were? Nah, it's just my personality, bro. Even on like your, or do you make it a conscious effort to where if you feel that bad energy, on a team of like oh we just map we lost map one like now consciously or you're like nah fuck this i'm bring let's fucking go yeah no no it's just natural bro it's that's the craziest thing about it it is generally all natural like you just want to win that fucking bad if you go

if he generally go listen to those comms and look at my face i'm not even looking at my teammates whilst i'm talking like if i'm okay i need to wake these guys up oh look at them like let's go i'm just fucking looking at the other team like talking in my thoughts just like bro they're not fucking beating us. Like, I'm, like, what's in my mind? Talking to my teammates. Didn't y'all go down O2 at Champs? Yeah.

And he started talking to shit down O2. Yeah. You guys lost a second, you lose the second map and you're like, man, these guys can't beat us. Yeah, no. That's insane. That's almost delusion. Yeah, I think it is, bro. I think you have.

Bro, the amount of delusion that coincides with success is insane. It is. Like, you, like, have to be. Oh, for sure. If you don't believe in yourself, then no one would believe you both. I think having the talent. Any competition. Having the talent is like not even half of what it takes.

Now 100%. How many talented ass people are you're like the raw talent of that person is insane, but they don't have. They never get to that. There's so many players like that. Yeah. You can probably go down Call of Duty, Halo, and just think of insanely talented players. But they just never had that kick. Something about their mental was just like they'd shut down.

It's like that in any game. Any game, any sport. There has been a, there has been a player out there, a soccer player born. That was better than messy. Oh, for sure. But, like, he just never wanted to play, or he didn't care, or he started smoking... Hanged around the wrong crowd. He started smoking weed.

Fuck. 100%? That was me. You're the messy. I'm just like, wait a second. Wait. That's good. That's actually fucking good.

I'm going to steal that one. I'm going to steal that one. If someone ever brings that up, there's someone better than missing. I went, oh, fuck. Wait a second. I do kind of, I mean, I have to consciously think about that in my life, though. Yeah. Because sometimes I do need to, whether I think, I'll be thinking about the outcome of something.

Instead of just doing it the best that I can, I'll just have these fucking doubts in my head. Yeah. I need to stop with that fucking bullshit. How do you do that, Fred? How do you deal with the, do you ever have those thoughts? Has there ever been a time of like, damn, maybe. well you're young as shit so I was gonna say like

is this it? Am I on my decline? Is it like if you feel like maybe you're not playing good is there certain things you like tell yourself is there a mantra in your head you just constantly give yourself affirmations do you do any of that? Oh man I'll

get yourself in the right head space for like a match Yeah I definitely during major four When we had that really bad stint And like I wasn't playing good None of us are playing good but I was playing like definitely playing like really bad. And I definitely remember like just so much frustration overwhelming me. Like I was fucking so mad.

I couldn't even look at myself in the mirror when I'd wake up sometimes. I'd be so angry. And I knew that it was nothing to do with my fucking hands or fucking whatever the fuck's going on. Like playing and shooting my gun. It was all in my head, like thought processes, like what I was thinking about, how we were interacting as a team. So for me, I would never have like doubt to call. am I able to do this for me it's like I get so frustrated and angry with myself that it's like

it forces me out of that if that makes sense like I get so angry that my body's like holy fuck like he can't he can't be any more angry than what he's right now he has to just fucking move on from this like that's what I do I'll put myself through so much frustration and anger like I wouldn't talk to anyone my favorite and no no one no one would speak to me during these times like I'm in my room not talking to anyone frustrated bro like and guess at a point where like I'm like bro I can't be angry for another day like I have literally how do How do you push out of that? Do you shoot a thousand bots or do you play your league or do you go over Vod?

Sit there and in your bed and just be. You watch the Jordan Doc? No, I literally watch like old matches. So like I'm a big believer in that is if you ever feel like you're not playing well or your teams aren't doing well, go look at what you were doing when you were doing well. And remember who the fuck you are. Yes. So I remember I watched Major 3 when we just won and I was watching like the matches back

without comms in it. So like I could hear the way we were speaking. I'd watch back major four okay how the fuck are we speaking why do we sound like this why are we doing this and then I just go back and forth and during this time fucking fucking period of going back I'm fucking obviously going crazy fucking losing my mind like why the fuck is this happening why the fuck am I doing this what made me like I'm digging bro I'm like a detective trying to find a fucking murder case like with my fucking own head you know so and then I guess you said a point where it's like I've done every fucking possible research that I could

possible do myself to figure out what's going on then I'm like okay like let me fucking And now it's like I've done everything like I feel comfortable and good enough to like move on from it, you know? But I'm like I'm a big believer in that type of stuff. If you are in a ride like that, do you find yourself going like psychotic and like going back watching old shit? You're just you're living pissed off. Yes, bro. I'm the worst person to be around during this time. Nick, what he's saying is like if you're ever feeling down, you just got to watch 09 Nats.

The thing is there just the thing is there just isn't enough highlights of me out there. I can't Google Optic Maniac Halo highlights No, there's the No scope on Coliseum That's it There's like one play that I did good See, the thing is I've had so many good plays In my career, but I was so I was playing so early

That like they weren't recording on featured station Unless you were on main stage Also there was no Twitch clips There were no odd shots. There weren't like You couldn't be like Oh my God clip that. People would watch it

and just be like Oh that was a sick play And then it's gone And then it's gone Now it's lost In a four Five hour long broadcast But there are so many times

Where I'd be playing on like Featured station or some side station Or like like it's not like now Where every single match is Broadcasted That's crazy I would have hell of fucking I mean not hell

I ain't trying to gas myself But like I would there'd be something Definitely worth watching But for me it's like I mean I can see for you Why you can just Matt can you type in

What were you guys watching on the game chat pod I saw a clip I think it was just you screaming dead and that shit was so funny I don't think I've ever

I don't think I've seen Dashie laugh that hard We can just pull up the comms video Yeah or pull up the Coms video I don't think I've seen Dashie laugh that hard That it was During the game

It was no like when they were reacting to it on the game chat podcast. It was in the Toronto Combs. It was funny because we all said dead in such different ways. And that's what I was bringing up to them because I remember watching it back. I'm like, bro, like, if you watched the way

we all said dead, we all said dead in such different ways. Like, Ken said a dead. And Bruce's like, dead. And then I said dead. And then I said dead. I finished it off like in the loudest day. You guys were just in such like sync. Like flow state as a team.

Yeah. It was against Toronto in the grand final. So if you go tomorrow towards the end, it was, yep, back, back. It's a little bit right here. So you listen to everyone's dead, and then you can hear my one at the end. It's so funny, bro. Listen, Bruce says it first. I've never seen Bruce do that.

Listen to Bruce. Look at, listen to Ken. And look at the end's dead. Shut up in the back. Go back, go back, listen to my one, listen to my one, listen to my one as well. Why? Bro, that's just pure, like, flow-stained teamwork right there. Dude, they're winning my fucking...

You all knew what true. Dad. Wait, go back to Shotsie's, and look at his face. That's such a fucking insane Oh, bro, it's so funny Why did you guys have this pulled up on the game chat? Because we're just talking about, I can't remember, bro. Did you just have, did you remember it and just tell him to go find it?

Yeah, I think I was just talking about it, like, this time comes or something. Oh, no, Bruce said something about this tournament being like his favorite, like, fucking this whole moment was his favorite thing. It's in his hometown and fucking, like major fours. Was this finals? Yeah, bro. Oh, my God. It's the last map of finals. Oh, sure.

Yeah. Of course. Let it out But you know what I was thinking Is like the people that Because whenever you get to this type of the school And like we were about to win People hold up the cameras like

Like like six people standing in front of you They're trying to get the winning moment And like I'm just thinking Those people that are holding those cameras Probably think we're fucking maniacs Like the way we're screaming Trust me I've been I've been holding those cameras

Yeah That's the best feeling That's the best feeling Because you know you're getting gold Yes like I remember like It's just the best shit Like those people probably think we're fucking on Mars But like nah

This tournament was fucking crazy I was jumping around in my living room. That's what I'm saying, man. You bring out, like, uh... Just an intensity. An intensity for fucking... Ken, we'll work on Ken. He's got to get his scream up.

He was like, what did say? Dead. Like, Ken has a dead. When Ken gets going, his deads are... His callouts are crazy. Yeah, I don't know why he said dead like that. He just... It was just like an unconscious, like, I'm a part of this shit, too.

He's never done it like that before. That's how it's funny. In Miami last year Yeah I think yeah last year Yeah Ken almost got a four piece to win the game On invasion control

Yeah And he was I mean he was screaming Yeah And then he comes off the stage And he was like bro If I would have got that four piece I would have dove off the stage

You would have seen me diving off the stage Yeah man Fuck I think this tournament Might be the same as a This is champs The champs are going to be here Or I was thinking when is it March our upcoming tournament

March 20 I think it might be the same as a freaking Halo event Oh really? The first two I think maybe not But while the first two halo events I think are the same time as Call the Duty event Wow what the fuck

Because me and Seth were talking about it and obviously we want to like watch party this shit But I definitely would like to see that Y'all playing live for sure That's this first event You've seen us play a lot Yeah Yeah

But I mean there's That champs they were channing mania They were at mani yeah I fucking panicked You ran away I never got the optic Like I was on optic HALA Like we had a pretty shit team

So like they would People would be like And Halo just never has had a crowd like that Yeah So I never got to experience like the optic Green Wall type of chance like the fucking stadium

disrupting. So even just like never got the experience that and then at champs last year walking yeah, hex like stands up and the whole crowd

and then I stand up jokingly and I'm like what about me? And I was like that's fun that's so fun and it was such it was such a like new feeling

I felt like I felt like so shy about it I was like wait what the fuck this is too fucking much. That that venue, oh man, like obviously I was on the fucking stage playing so I couldn't like see everything that was happening like completely like whilst we were playing. But like just from like people like what they were telling me and just like the fucking like just watching a few videos like everyone says like that might be like the best event that's ever happened. Like

that fucking chance. I mean I can't I mean my memory is also fried. I'm sure there's been some good events. Yeah, it probably has. I don't know you'd have to hitch. What do you think? Best, best cot events. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that one, I think major one in Vanguard. That was crazy. At ESA was fucking absurd. I mean, that's major one in Vangor.

Was that when I had green hair? Green hair. That's my favorite event ever. I don't know if that'll ever be, yeah. Because like, you gotta think, like, that was our, like, like, that we lost Optic. We went Huntsman. Then we got Optic back. Seth had won in like a year and a half.

He wins. Bruce wins his first time back. Who was it, Seth? Dashie. Shotsie Ily. That place was packed. Yeah, and we like shit on Faze. And like we had like a dry streak against Faze and then we beat them that event and then we beat them the whole year.

It's like it's with Faze we're like super streaky. Yeah. But yeah, that event champs last year. And I think one we didn't win, but the Black Ups four of them. event in in London Gfinity or whatever I think that event It goes crazy

Yeah we I think champs should be in London Personally I'd love that I think that would be I think we would like Thinking just from the Virality standpoint

Like the clips Because in America There's a Like if your favorite team loses A lot of times you leave Yeah In there You just go to watch

You just go to drink and watch and yeah you want your team to win but if your team loses ah shit grab another pint with the boys and now we're watching now we're watching surge well they're like choose to like well now we're gonna root for this too exactly right it's like if optic loses i'm fucking cheering for falcons just to get their first map right yeah yeah yeah drunk and it's exactly screen for them now london the vibe the fans there would be fucking nuts bro so i went to like an EPL games there and fuck me bro it's fucking

crazy man like these people literally like live and breathe that shit like that for them is their life like that's their like medicine in a way like they'll go to work 10 hours a day I don't ever forget I sat next to a guy at the Chelsea Men City game and he's such a good guy so happy bro

I'm like oh yeah well so what were you doing you guys I just finished an 80 hour shift got a one hour and a half fucking trains just do my workloads I'm fucking straight to the game Like that for them is like... Straight to the game. Straight to the alcohol. That to them is their life, bro.

Like, they love it. And honestly, the fucking atmosphere in those games, pro. There's like, for example, at Emirates at Arsenal, like, they don't sit down. The whole fucking game. They don't sit down. You're standing the whole game. I like that so much, man. You know, imagine everyone's standing the whole game.

The second the player touches the ball in the wing, everyone's like, the whole fucking stadiums. Also, the stadiums in the EPL, like, they're not that big. Like, they're big. There's some big ones. But the Cowboys one is the biggest. one I've ever been in. Oh, yeah. No, the AT&T.

Once you've been to America, like the stadiums here are fucking... Can you look up the... The most capacity in the English Premier League stadiums? I feel like... Or the biggest stadiums in the English... I feel like any time I travel, the culture and any other place is just... More... The more happy.

What would be the... More happy, but I'm thinking, like, you go to a game. Everyone's staying and everyone's drunk. It's like a fuck. Like everyone's like, no one's trying to be cool. No one's there for the pictures. No one's there with their highest fashion shit. No one's people at the clubs are dancing.

People at the bars are having fun. And in America it's like, oh, you want to go to the game. Pull up to the Mavs game and you're like, you're freshest shit. Yeah. You want someone to snap a picture. You go to the club. You just want to buy a table and chill and sit and look cool. Like it's just I love going to other countries.

I didn't realize Old Trafford is the biggest. Wow. And it's only 75K. I mean, Penn State's got 25,000 more than that. Yeah. Like that's fucking crazy. Wait, what's, can you put it in Ramadrid's?

Because I go to a new stadium. I'm actually very curious how much they can fit. Ravager is like the biggest team. Are you a big soccer guy? I love it, bro. I love it. Me, Ram Madrid, like, it's my favorite. How much time am I?

Still only 7. How much dope am I losing not being into soccer? I mean, that's still a lot. How much dope are you losing? How much dope am I not having by not watching soccer. No, it's not even soccer. You don't watch sports. Or sports. Having a team and loving a team

is so fun. I watched the Super Bowl to the fourth quarter. Yeah, I mean, that's your ass, though. Yeah, they go to smoke. Yeah, they go, right, very bad. I need a... I need to start. I should over at the half. Oh, it was over at the half. And then we got a mediocre halftime show, but yeah, we'll talk about that. Kendrick or Drake? Real quick. I'm Drake, bro. All right. That's all we needed.

I'm always Drake, bro. Sock, I remember we went to. to the Colorado shit and some soccer game is on it. I was like But then it got like towards Soccer game That was the World Cup What?

Is that one? The World Cup, yes. Who was playing? Do you remember? I just Or was it like a few? Yeah,

we watched the Mexico game live. It was like Mexico Peru or something. I think I was rooting for Mexico. And we wanted Mexico to live. But I was sitting there like But then it like got towards the end And someone scored and I'm like sitting there all into it. And I'm like, no, we got to finish this.

Let's see who wins. I just, I don't know. Sockers has never been. I understand when it gets towards the end. And I understand. I was like, you're standing around. You're having a good time. Some plays could potentially be being made.

But then when that play is fucking made, that's when it's, there's like a psychological dopamine effect. A lot of people say that, like, oh, soccer. It's like edging. Soccer's like edging. Like, you're almost there. Yeah, what were you going to say? I was going to say, a lot of people say that, like, oh, soccer. The game's boring, the ending score was 2 to 1.

The end of score was 1 to 0. And I'm like, yeah, but like, there's also basketball where there's, like, too many points. Yeah. Like, basketball could be over at halftime. If you're up by 50, you're not going to lose that game. If you're down by 1, it's always... It's always doable.

It's always about... The World Cup final, Argentina was up, what, 2-0 or something like that? I don't know what it was, but then... In Bapae scored the hat trick, like, the almost... The only goes to penalties. Man, soccer, man, the storylines

in the big type bro, like, the thing of, like, soccer, it's just such a unique, beautiful, it's just beautiful. I can't describe it,

like, I've played it before. Like, it's like semi-pro, like levels. I'm not obviously, I'm saying, I'm a fucking pro,

but I understand the difficulty of what the fuck these players are doing. They make it look so easy. That's why you're like, kind of underappreciary, like,

oh, it's so boring. But like, if someone kicked the ball from fucking here over there and we had to stop it at a feet and not make it move. Bro, none of us could do that consistently. They know what I'm saying?

Like, these people, like, I don't know. It's just crazy out because I've gone to the games live. I went to the Man City game, Chelsea game. It was 4-4-4-4-brough in Stanford Bridge. And these guys fucking hate each other, bro. I think it's a lot different. Crowd was insane. If you go to like those type of games, even if you don't like chocolate, bro, when you're in that,

you feel like in that environment. They'll look at you. Like, why the fuck aren't you standing up and fucking screaming for us? You know what I'm saying? Why are you sitting in our fucking stance? Like, get the fuck out of it. You know what I'm saying? They give you that vibe.

I like that though. Yeah, it's crazy. I like the hostility. I like the fans, one section, hating each other. Because even if nothing's really happening in the game, there's just fucking undeniable energy. That's surrounding you. Like, there's like, so in a home team stadium, there's like, the whole stadium is like, obviously, like, 75% of fucking that home team. And there's like a little, like, stand corner of just the enemy team.

And the whole game, they're just pointing out at them. Your team. See, but I bet they like that too. The people losing or like the away team Like they they go there for that attention Pulling up as an away team at a hostile team's like environment is fucking lunatic Brod because in America and there's that happens sometimes in America But a lot of times like if if I'm at a fucking Mavs game and and they're playing the Knicks

And I see somebody with a Knicks jersey on like where you come from man? Yeah Like it's more of like a casual like yeah good luck to your team Yes. That shit doesn't happen. That shit does not happen. No, fuck no. They both teams have fun.

Fuck no. Bro, you're like, what happened? I think I was at a, um, I was, well, yeah, me and Anne went to the Cowboys game. And it said there was, like, the thing came up in the Jumbotron. 110,000 people at the fucking game. Regular season game. Regular season game. And I'm like, holy fuck, I'm booking around, but it doesn't sound or feel like there is.

No, it doesn't. It does not, bro. It just 110,000 people in a fucking stadium. And I'm like, me and Ann and, I could hear aunt. I can talk to him. No problem. Easy conversation.

I'm like, bro. Like, when I went to the EPO games, me and my dad, I have to fucking yell at him so he could hear me. And I'm like, that to me is like the biggest difference is just like the,

I don't know what it is, bro. I don't know if it's just the chance or like just the people. It's the singing. It's the singing and the chance. It's a passion and shit, but like 110,000 people.

That's the most I've ever been in the same. I try to explain to Nick a couple times. The best part about soccer is how the system works. Yes, yes. What you mean by that? You could start a soccer team in England. And you could start the BTAH soccer team yourself. Just go out and play with a few boys.

That team could win the English Premier League. It could win the finals in a decade. If you made the right moves, if you invested the right money, if you got the right players, you could work your way up through the ranks. Really? And you could win. Like there's just like so many different. Like there's the pro, there's the CDL, the challengers,

and there's a shit under that, shit under that, but you can just keep fucking... Yeah, there's a true, the editor here, he's a big fan of Bournemouth, the team. And he was telling me like 10 years ago, they were at the... They were not even getting...

They were a team that was so bad, they weren't getting paid. They, like, their team wasn't getting paid by the league at all. They're getting sandwiches after they win. He's a sandwich. Right, exactly. Like that. It's passion.

And then slowly... That was like Halo 3 back in the... Slowly, they win a division. and they get promoted to the next division. Now you're playing better teams. Such a grind. That's like a fun grind, though. Yes, bro.

Yeah. If you're passionate about it, like, fuck you. It's like you're ranking up in real life. Literally. Like you started in the bronze. He's trying to get top two 50s. I think, I mean, obviously the American teams make so much money. Like the football teams and the baseball teams, it makes so much money with this.

But you do have to, you do have to kind of sell out a bit. Like you lose a little bit of the passion. I'm not saying fucking Cubs fans and and Cowboys fans aren't passionate. Obviously they are. But this is a different level. Yeah, no, 100%. What I find crazy as well is like, bro, like the fucking advertisements of these fucking American sports. Bro, I can't watch a, I watch a fucking NFL game.

I'm fucking, I've watched every fuck. I feel like I'm in the fucking Shotsie's Twitch stream. I think I'm in the Shotsie's Twitch stream. Just fucking watching ads all day. but like in um in soccer like in soccer there's no ads there's like no ads I only have the 45 minutes half time right ads for half time 90 minutes it's just 90 minutes yeah bro 45 minutes like there's no stop for that

soccer's money like fucking is there's 200,000 people in this stadium because there's a billion people watching it yeah literally did you play yeah I play I play in Australia like semi professional like like like um when I was like 17, 16, like I was playing above like the... A lot of soccer players. Yeah, so I played it. The best is. You think you're the best soccer player on Optic?

Yeah. Actually, what about Ann? He plays fucking... And played, Ann played. And was average? Nah, he was okay. I heard he was good. He told me he's good.

I don't think he's hearing anything we're saying. He probably doesn't. But he told me he was good. He told me he was good. But I don't know. I have no idea. Were you better... Didn't Blake play?

Yeah. And George? But you were the best? Yeah. Like actually, though. What? I've seen you play a bit. I know.

They're better at this, like, TST, streaming, gaming. They get the most kills. I was on varsity before. So you don't have to say you're the best at the soccer. I don't have to force that one thing. I don't even think they would say otherwise. So you were. Yeah.

Like, they. I could admit that Blake and George are better than me at video games, but I was better at soccer. For sure. You got to take that one. Well, Pred, you fucking. where are you at how's your mental how's your mental how what we'll get to your mental now how was your mental when all this shit happened yeah look for me man when all that stuff

happened um it was just like a man how do i say it's like a very like when you go into a place that you've never been before that makes sense like imagine you open a door and you've just never seen any of these things you're like an artist You've said some shit on this podcast To where I just It's not what I would think Would come out of your mouth What was I?

It's like metaphors and similes You asked me where I was Imagine a painting Imagine I have a dark door And you walk through the dark door And all you see is All you see is your past

And that's how I felt That's how I felt 100 scenes of my past is going through my mind rapidly. Bro, that's too funny. Oh, my God. But, yeah, I just... Yeah, how are you? I'll just seem like it.

I was an unusual place. So for me, it was very unusual. I've never been in a situation like that. You know, I was going through things and I just, I felt like I just, I missed my family so much. That to me was the biggest thing because, like I told you guys, when I was losing or whenever I was doing bad, I would always close myself off. I've been a very big, I don't know how you guys are, but I've always been a person

that whenever there's things going on in my life I'm always just like I hide away I hide myself away and I just put I try to handle it all myself and then you just got to the point where everything was overflowing and things were just getting out of control for me

and I just couldn't like actually think about like what I was like doing and so for me it was just very important to just be with my family man and that was like my number one thing do you think you were a where your mind was it was like

trying to think of a less harsh word but like detrimental to the team like it wasn't you weren't you weren't your usual teammate self you weren't your usual because every time i see you're fucking smiling you're dapping people up did you feel like you fell out of that and it was it was sort of affecting the team as well oh for sure i mean one one million percent um i know what like when i'm when i'm at my like my highs and like what i bring and i just wasn't not bringing that at all man i was being and i feel like when I'm I'm a person in the room, if you'd notice that they're not being themselves or there's something is like they're being a bit more quiet than usual, it's very easy to pick up on.

I feel like you would be easy to pick up on. Yeah. So then when that's happening and then where like practices is going on, everyone's like, what the fuck is like, what's going on with him? Like, what's wrong? And then it just got to the point, like I said, like, it was just like, I was just like, I was just so like out of the mix of just everything. So I just needed to like have a reset, man.

And just, for me, the biggest thing was just being in the company of my family. So that was my most number one goal is just Because there's nothing more comforting than being around people like that So that's all I needed was just to be back home And especially in Australia In Australia it's very hard To like in the summertime To not just go outside and fucking just have a smile on your face bro

You go out in that country You go out in that country man Like fucking type in Bondi Icebergs Matt type in Bondi Icebergs And this is like this is where I went This is where I went every single fucking day. And I just sat on the rock and I just fucking looking out to the ocean. Like when you get, when you went back was it like, all right?

I'm getting my fucking mind right? Yes. You went here? Yes. This is like the, so there's like a walk. You do like a five mile walk. And then along the way, you stop by here. Yeah.

Jump in the water. This is like a vacation. Yes. Is this just where you live? This is like 30 minutes from where I live. And like this is where I was at all fucking all every day. I just wake up in the mornings, go for a walk. and I was just like I said like you said my main mindset was just to make sure my mind's clear and to just make sure I'm in a really good headspace and I'm just able to just go out there and do what I love doing and I just feel like you can't do a disservice to yourself and to your team and to everything like if you're just if your mind's not right and you know sometimes like you said life just there's some things that happen in life that are just bigger than everything else bigger than you and you just have to like attend it and it's just how life is sometimes there's just things that happen but that's what makes a story.

grader. That's what makes everything better is that the struggles, you know, the things that happen, the dark things, and then when you come out of it and then, like, look at the opportunity now, we go into a fucking, the next tournament's where we won champs, like, fucking, everything's coming full circle. It's crazy, so.

So you got close, you think you got closer to your family for this? For sure, man, because like I said, I'm a very big person on hiding away and not speaking about things and just being like, you know, closed off in a box and I feel like, even if my teammates, man. I think you, I think what you've gone through the last couple of months is something that like people don't, very, very few people in the world can understand.

Yeah. Not only is your entire professional career being put on display. People are trying to pull skeletons out. People are making up skeletons. People are talking about you in ways you've never been talked about before. And you have to deal with all of that at one time. Dog, I would run to my mom's house so fast. I would call my mom and be like, I'm all my way.

I don't know where else to go in the world. Like I would have no idea what to do. Yeah, I mean, obviously I'd be with Alexis and I would be with my mom and that would be with my mom and that would be it. Yeah. Especially like you don't necessarily, you know, they're, you obviously hear like they're going to pick up hook and it's like, well, you know, they fuck around and win with hook. It's like then. That's good for them. But like, was there times where you were, I know you're not going to say, but I was going to say, were there times where you were.

worried about your, I guess, career or your return. But with your mindset, oh, fuck, no. I knew I was going to come back, run shit. Nah, for me, it was more like a, I was like, when I saw that they were picking him up and all that stuff, like, I think people, a lot of people think that, you know, I was just going to be automatically back in the team. And then everyone did, we all did, like, who could deserve us in a way. And like, by just basically not telling him or after major one, this is happening.

Like no, like if that went out and did well, that's, that would have been them. That's like, that it is what it is. But like things happen, you know, like, like, like everything happens so quickly that like, people just don't understand like how things work. But in terms of like, my confidence in it's coming back, I knew I was going to be back on a team. And I knew like my mindset is like I'm just fucking just want to win and just be locked in and have a good mindset. And for me, I was just very like motivated to be back.

But like, all I wanted to do was just come back and play because after being away for a month and a half. all these things happening like I just felt like I always said like when I was home I was like handling my shit making sure that I was doing the right things and like to get myself back and like I was just ready to get back man and obviously this fucking all happened

which is like the best possible like situation to be back on the team that you just fucking won champs with and like optic like I mean for me it was like think about like bro like literally like what we were saying before like my fucking last three months like just the three months itself can be a fucking documentary like yeah yeah so like yeah man but like what you were saying like when all these things are happening like what people are saying and all these type of things like like you said you just go to you want

to just run to your mom and just fucking hide away like for me i felt like that too bro the first person i caught was my mom yeah yeah because at the day in those times that's what people don't understand that at the time the end of the day like your family is number one and also they're they'll never judge you they'll never judge you no matter you could i could fucking moms are crazy yeah mom's unconditional crazy shit but I still know I could call my mom

no matter what happens in my life like she and it's not it's not don't worry I won't judge you it's this is this is what's happened how can we help you get out of it and that's what moms do

their instincts are just how do I make this how do I make how do we start to fix this how do I take the ease how do I make it give me that to me is the biggest relief is just because I've never the thing is I've been so embarrassed to like to go and do that and say that like I've never wanted yeah my brother my dad my mom to ever see me in a way of like oh

something I don't want to stress about me yeah yeah yeah I've always felt embarrassed about that 100% I think that's what a lot of like guys especially men do is they just feel like embarrassed just to like show that and that's how I've always been bro and like I hate it like I could never go to my mom and hug her and be like oh like you I would feel embarrassed really I'd feel embarrassed bro and like and then when all these things happened that's when everything came to I'm like man I can't think like this anymore like I've always been like that and I think that's like my biggest thing is is just like being open to that stuff like open to the struggles you know yeah open to that and I feel like it's just it's too hard to just

fucking try to do everything on your own bro it's just especially obviously like I'm young so I haven't even I've obviously fucking lived like a pretty crazy life but like I haven't experienced like what turn to 30 yeah like what those people have experienced like my family came from the war bro like they they they they got kicked out of they had to leave the country it was alive or death for them you know like it's either they stay in bosnia and you know like potentially fucking so it's like who am i to even complain about my shit exactly i'm like my dad my dad was literally like like he almost got taken like that 14 by like the people that were invading the country like the army like they said to him like we're going to check

the other houses you're coming with us at 14 like you know what I'm saying like dad at a 14 year old like to get basically held like you're coming with us like bro yeah that's great I'd be feeling like such a pussy sometimes hearing of like actual real shit that's going on and I'm stressing about fucking just

why did I eat that man I'm sort of fresh what am I gonna I need to find something yeah oh yeah I just ate this kid cat compared to the real I just ate this fucking kid I'm like oh fuck kind of look at myself off to that. God, I just went negative in this Valorant match. God,

everyone's making fun of me. But, but yeah, that's that was like my whole like mindset on things. I feel like this could, this will be almost like another, it's almost like when you first started teaming again. I feel like this is going to be like another fresh

honeymoon stage for y'all. To where everyone just comes fired up. Yes. Because I know during the season, you're practicing, you're doing the online CDL matches. shit and I know it can get a little like redundant you kind of let off your foot off your foot off the the gas a little bit but I feel like this is a good refresh yes of what this team could be like I'm so excited to see what y'all do with it you're coming in fucking firing immediately and I feel like

I feel like this momentum is going to last for the season so super excited to see that um I guess now you're in a good place you when'd you move back last week or you flew back last week? I flew back two days ago, bro. Or two days ago? Yeah, bro. You bought a house.

Yep. When did you get that? Literally like, maybe like a few weeks ago, bro. Literally a few weeks ago. Like it confirmed. Everything was confirmed like a few weeks ago. So you are,

hey, you're implanted here now. Yeah, man. I'm fucking, I'm ready to go. You're ready? You locked in? Yes, man. Is it just call of duty? That's,

Taking care of yourself. Yes. And fucking the gym, dude. That's like the two things. Like physical health and fucking mental and then fucking cod. That's all the three things. Everything else in the world does not fucking bother me at all. I'm strictly focused on those things.

And I'm just so happy that the next tournament's going to be in fucking the same place we won champ. I can't stop thinking about that. We're excited, man. We're excited. Good to see you doing well again. Glad you're getting a home or you have a home now in Texas. you're solidified man you're back on the team we're excited um but yeah like you said buy the fucking tickets march 20 20 something March 20 something pull up man we'll all be there we're

going to be turning up for the event yes sir the return of bread sir thank you so much for joining bro thank you guys peace out man peace out everyone mac Craig played outro music yes it's it man