The Flycast - The Future and Will Smith - Ep 29

Episode Date: May 18, 2019

The Future and Will Smith - Ep 29 by The Flycast

An intro just happens. Like right now. The intro is happening. Flycast, what are we on? 50s is 58, or I mean, sorry. $28. $1.208. I think we're on $1,000.

Dude, I think Joe Rogan's on a thousand something. You know he's been podcasting for like eight years? Damn. So he didn't blow up for like six years, seven years? I mean, what did it blow up? I mean, I'm sure it was. He went, his ninja status, like how ninja blew up is kind of how Joe Rogan blew up. Yeah, that's, I mean, because obviously Joe Rogan was already very...

But his podcast was successful. Was it? Was it? Pretty early. I don't really know the history of it. I'm trying to check to see... Dude, I've been watching... Now that I think about it, I've been watching this podcast for a while.

I know. Did you ever watch Fear Factor? Yeah. I never knew that Joe Rogan is like Known as the Fear Factor guy Well he's not Well he's definitely not anymore I'm sure he was definitely

How weird is that Like he says like he would He was known as the fear factor guy People would be like hey aren't you the Fear Factor guy That's crazy How do you even That's wild Because like that's his

That was his first big break So Joe Rogan's fear factor was Will Smith's fresh prince. It's like a weird place to start, and you've got to think of his success level now. He just went up and up and up, whereas most people start their first thing is huge. And then it goes...

Well, I mean, Fresh Prince was pretty big. That's what I'm saying, fresh prints. But do you think Will Smith has gotten... Will Smith might be the best to ever live. Did you spill it? Fucking gum hit the fucking. floor. You had gum in your mouth?

Yeah, it was a podcast foul. Podcast foul. So we're on episode 29. I was trying to think of a significance to 29, but 29 is not a very significant number. Aren't you 29? No, that's Mike. That's Mike, man. I almost hitting the big fucking 30.

Damn. We should throw a party when Mike hits 30. Like what? Just a chill? Make it like an old. old school like what if we put like leather couches and cigars and like invite like hexes siblings and family and just a bunch of older people that would be good i bet you mike would love that anyway will smith yeah with milfs and stuff anyway will smith

every every party mike's at already has a milf or two yeah anyway will smith um will smith you Like, is he the best to ever do it? Let me, let me, let me, let me continue. What do you mean? Because he started, he started, like, you got to think of like, like Daniel Radcliffe and, and everybody in Harry Potter. You got to think of all the, all the characters in Game of Thrones right now,

most of the people in the office, like, they hit that first mark. And you got to know by the age of 28 that you've probably hit your most successful role ever, like as an actor. But do you think Daniel Radcliffe? is ever going to get another. I don't know who that is. The guy who plays Harry Potter. Do you think he's ever?

Wait, is it a known thing that by 28 you've hit your- No, no, no. I'm just saying that's like the normal age. Like most of the people in Game of Thrones right now are like 25. Like the one girl where the girl that was in that movie where they basically fight, it's like a free-for-all. Like someone asks, only one person can live. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you're thinking of Jennifer Lawrence. You're thinking of... Like, that's her thing. Yeah, that's her thing. Right there. But she, she Will Smithed it. Really? Because she kind of got out of that.

But did she go up? True. I don't know. But now she's so famous where it's just kind of like Jennifer Lawrence. Does Jennifer Lawrence dance? Yeah. But like, I wonder if people were watching, like, Fresh Prince. Because Fresh Prince came out, or Fresh Prince was going on from what I, I don't claim to know this shit.

But Fresh Prince was going on and he was rapping at the same time, right? I had like his album and shit Yeah Like I was listening to his album Which is fucking weird Because when you think of Will Smith rapping It's like

It's not like very skilled It's like kid like Almost like kid rap Like family friendly rap Yeah like family friendly Yeah But yeah I had his album Like I knew

I'm sure I bet if I put on his album Like the Wild Wild Wild Wild West album I don't know if that's what it was called I bet if I put that on I would know all the non-popular songs too You think so? Oh my God, I haven't heard this.

Really? Dude, that's crazy because I wouldn't, I wouldn't know. You just know the Wild Wild West. Yeah. Into the Wild Wild West. But I know like most of it. Rough Fridays, no, you don't want none of this. Running a run of this.

Buffalo Soldier. It's like I told you. I know all that. And you man to mend them in the dress. And do we got out of that justice season of us? Dude, you know, do you remember how that started? This is going to blow your mind. How what started?

how the Wow West song started. That's Jaden Smith. Holy shit. That's crazy. That's nuts. Because now he's famous. Dude, what the hell? That is weird.

That's how old we are. Holy shit. How old is Jaden Smith? I don't know. He's got to be like 22. Is he 21 yet? I don't know. I really, I really have no idea.

He could just be like 17. He's just 25 Damn, that's nuts He is 20 So that album came out Probably like Wait, 2000 Because that's called Wallinium

As in Millennium Damn, it came out in 2000 2000 was a good year There was like some M&M Some From music you say When did 50 cent come out? That was just like

From like 2000 to 2010 might be, I don't want to say the goat era. But there's a lot of, there's a lot of good fucking music. Yeah, was the Outcast album come out then, too? Yes. Depends which one. So Marshall Miler's LP. Stankonia? I can I don't remember how to say it.

How do you say? I didn't listen to Outcast. Stankonia? Yeah, that's what I thought. But I didn't listen until that, like, double, what album was it, where they have, like, two albums and one? I think I know what you're talking about. Dude, Outcast. People who listen to Outcast are losing their fucking mind right now.

Oh, yeah. Outcast Santatus. Did, um, I don't think Andre ever had a solo album, right? Speaker Box Love Below. Yeah. Yeah, Andre never had a, never put out a... How? That's crazy.

I don't know, dude. You would just do features? I guess it's kind of like J. Electronica. That's like everyone loves their work, but they don't do it. I'm the J. Electronica. I've actually been saying this for like two years now. I'm the J. Electronica of Optic. People like it when I do it, but we'll see if I do.

That's not even... That actually makes sense. I was the J. Electronica Stan at one point. Yeah. I might have heard almost every song he's done. Yeah. Well, he actually puts out solo songs. I don't think...

Andre doesn't even put out... Does he have a solo song? I don't think he had. Besides solo? Besides solo? Holy shit. His one solo song was called solo, and it's not even on his album.

It's on Frank's album. Shit like that just gives me anxiety. like what like you gotta be there's gotta be some kind of just madness in his head behind like why he knows the people want a solo album does he not want to make a solo album well i heard i heard that as he uh i heard him say as he gets older he doesn't know what he wants to do with rapping because he doesn't want to be a 50 year old rapper rapping about bitches and hoes and Lamborghinis. Which is like...

He just doesn't know what to rap about. Right. Dude, think about the song solo. Like, what is he rapping about? He's rapping about, like, important shit, but like... But like the way, the metaphors behind it are like... Are so weird.

I'm solo that I can see under the skirt of an ant. Like, that's not... That has nothing to with ho's bitches. Right. But that's not like basic. rap either and it's already the very first he hasn't even rhymed yet that's pure poetry he hasn't even rhymed yet he's a poet and it's already a dull entendantra like hasn't even so that i can be on a discard of an eh so i don't get a hide anymore when i geronimo i just go like that's so what what are you

talking about like i mean it's like if you think about it it makes sense but who writes that nobody writes that. Will Smith? What did Will Smith do? I was going to say this fucking 15 minutes ago. What did Will Smith do before Fresh Pyrants? I have no idea. We were like three years old before Fresh Prince.

When did Fresh Prince come out? I'm glad I have my phone on me too. We've looked up like 15 different things. We need a Jamie. Like how Joe Rogan has Jamie. Aaron said he wants to. He does? It doesn't, but he's going to need a job soon, you know?

He's going to need a job soon. Wow, dude. Did you know Fresh Prince only went on for six years? I didn't know that. 1990 to 1996. It's just replayed non-fucking stop. 1990 to 1996? Literally three when it ended.

Holy shit. I thought it was like 98 to like 2004 or something. Yeah, I knew we were super. Yeah, look at the playtimes tomorrow, MTV2 and BET. All day. From 11 p.m. to 12.30 a.m. What? It's still running?

Yeah. Tomorrow. Oh, my God. I wonder if Will Smith still gets paid from that. I don't know. I don't know how that works. You have to, right? I mean, I'm sure some old white dudes getting paid for it.

Yeah. Somebody put it, slipped it in his contract when he was 18. Oh, yeah. Will Smith had no idea what he was. Apparently the Olson twins still get paid for full house. Jesus. imagine just like set for life because when you were seven I think they were less I think they were younger than seven I don't even remember what I did at seven

like either I think I remember imagine getting paid like I want to I guess they don't look back at it like because when I look back when I was like six seven I don't remember shit yeah so I wonder if they look back they're like we don't really remember doing it like we remember uncle Jesse and stuff but did you ever watch for us yeah that's like uncle jesse yeah i think you're correct i didn't watch it so i have no idea um did i watch i knew it a little bit jesus besides arthur arthur arthur was good hey arnold

hey i say hey hey hey what a wonderful time hey hey hey what a wonderful what about hey arnold yeah hey arnold dude that's a that's a banger of an intro I watched Hay Arnold. I watched recess. I watched some stuff, but I don't know if I ever watched like a... Oh, you know what I did watch? Saved by the Bell.

And that came out in like the 80s. I watched Saved by the Bell a lot, actually. Fucking Doug? Doug Funny? I don't know if I ever watched Doug. Do you know of Doug? I think so. It's a cartoon character, right?

Yeah. I think I remember vaguely, but I never watched it. I'm just trying to think of all the hits. but what other I think the I've said this before but the Childish Gambino of our

I mean boom there it goes the Will Smith of our generation is Childish Gambino you think yeah because you think of Will Smith

Will Smith did he wrapped he acted on on TV then he was a a movie star and and

and I and he did some other stuff too I think he did stand up I don't know if he ever did stand up but like I mean, Childish Camp, like... Was his stand-up good?

I think I'm like... Donald Glover. I think I watched it a long time ago. And I don't know if I thought it was... And that was like before I knew that was Chauders Gambino. Yeah, I was scared to watch it. Because I... That's all I am right now.

And I was like, I'm scared to watch it. Because I love all of his other stuff so much. So one day I was just like, okay, I'll watch it. and it's actually pretty funny. It's weird to see him stand. Because you know how when he watched Joe Rogan do standup? He's like really different than he is. It's like when I stream.

Yeah, exactly. That's how it is with Childish Gambino. But he's, he has this whole new persona in the last like four or five years where he's like chill, got the beard and does like, he's kind of like, like mysterious almost. And then in his stand.

up he's like dicks dicks dicks and like dick jokes yeah he actually that's one of his things dicks dicks it's actually pretty funny though it's pretty funny what's weird is the i guess everyone has it for like all types of jobs but like when you know like it's i guess the cameras are on or whatever like it's like performance time like yeah like how jo rogan obviously compared to his podcast like jumps into a character when it's, uh, yeah, I feel like I,

I feel like good streamers. When they start their stream, they sort of jump into a character. Um, do you feel that you do? Uh, it's, it's,

it's weird for me because, it is weird for you. I stream, I think when I streamed solo, that was the case, especially when I, you would jump into a character. When I first,

uh, when I first did, started content creation full time and I was like, trying to figure, figure shit out. I was like doing like Fortnite, like playing Fortnite solos and we were playing like two B two tournaments and stuff like that. I think at that point I was trying, like really trying, like being extra being a character. But then like whenever we did, we landed the TST thing, it's like I can't be, it's like two people that I grew up with.

So it's like I can't really be, I don't know, I'm still just as crazy. But like it's not like a character as much. I've definitely done the character thing before, for sure. But, um, shit. I feel like I would have to talk to other, like, good streamers. Yeah. Who was I having, was I having to talk with you about being a good streamer? Or was it?

Who was it? Uh, fuck, I forget. But there's just, you literally, like, I do it, right? Like, I jump into a character. Oh, for sure. And I'm just, all throughout the house. Bro, whatever I hear,

how can't you do the Bree? I can't. Like, you can't just hold it. Like, yeah, but it doesn't sound like that. Imagine people are listening on SoundCloud. That don't watch my streams at all. Yeah.

I mean, I can hold it. Just stop by it to my stream, Twitter TV says BTH mania. And you'll hear it within. You'll hear it within. You'll hear it in real life. I am doing it in real life now. Yeah, I know.

like in random like I'll say a sentence and then just like just like it adds like a little funny tone to it yeah I was trying to explain it because who's I trying to explain it to oh I was trying to explain it to Alexis she was like what is that and I was like it's it's like a sarcastic laugh like when he knows he couldn't even explain it really but everyone else understands it you do it at a certain time yeah It's kind of like, you know how we used to do the thing where it's like we get like the high-pitched voice?

Like, hopefully I have a job in two weeks. Like it's hard to explain when we do that, but we do it at a certain time. It's like when. Like you can't explain what that is. Right. But it does have it. It's about the timing of it. Yeah.

It's like kind of, well, that one, I would say the best for our high-pitched voice thing is like sarcastically confronting a real life situation. Which is like a very specific time to do something, but we did it a lot. We did it a lot. Might have to bring it back. I know. We might have to bring it back. The shit coming up. Do the whole flycast just hopefully.

Yeah. Hopefully the flycast makes it to. It all started. That was funny. I guess we're going to end up getting into a little bit of that, huh? Maybe. I don't know how much I can set. I mean, to be fair, I don't know how much I even know.

Yeah. People, well, apparently everyone knows more than us. Everyone knows more than us. Dude, you said you went on the Reddit for the first time. Yeah, but that was about, I went on the Reddit and then I looked at the Flycast comment section. Right. I was just like, Jesus. I texted you.

Yeah, you did. And then you're just like, welcome to Reddit. Welcome to Reddit. Yeah. you got a little upset it was like upset but it was just like in the in the last flycast

the things we were talking about I was explaining like like literally in the video saying like trying because I knew it would happen unless I like broke it down and said like no we don't think we fucking deserve like some huge

mansion it's not about that it's not about us it's about would you say the second perspective of this phase first now we say optics the second 100thies might be second just say optics the second yeah optic top three eastport as far as like a lifestyle kind like with like content right shit like that um but just it has nothing to do with us I would just expect optic to have like a dope if their content creators are somewhere no matter who the fuck their content creators are

I would expect their house to be dope. And that was like my point. And I guess people are going to take this video. Be like, no, maniac, you guys didn't produce shit. Right. And it's like, that's not the point at all. It has nothing to do with us or what we did. People have a tendency to do that.

I remember that one vision where you said something about jealousy? You said something like, well, I know what the issue is whenever I'm getting a bunch of hate on the internet is. because I'm not producing gameplay videos like I used to, and I know the reasoning behind all the hate, people saying that it should be kicked out of the house, people should say that I am mooching off of optic. You were like, I know that in some way, it's like jealousy. It's like they think that if they were in my position,

they would be able to do it better than me. And you said that, and I put it in vision. I don't know why I put it in vision. I don't know why I don't really remember the. response. I'm sure it wasn't positive. I think, well, I think that was an outrage. You were off of the internet at that point. But it was just like, this guy thinks he's gently, he thinks we're jealous of him.

And it was just like, it was just like, I remember I was kind of like, I was reading it all. I was like, it's not what he said. Like, I think they look at it and they think, oh, you think you're the shit or something. You think we're jealous of you? And you were very much like, you. And I knew what was going on at that time. Like, because you had just gotten,

I think you had just gotten past your H1 fucking addiction. You were making beats, but you weren't like, you weren't like producing. It was like when you were during that time of like learning everything. And so I knew what was going on. So it was like hard for me to not be like,

you know what I mean? Like, like he's not doing this because he thinks, because what you said was correct. Like a bunch of people think, if I was in your position, I would do it better than what you're doing. And they think that I just like, DM'd Hecks one day and I'm like,

yo, Hex, can I join Optic? He's like, yeah, man, here's your chance. And then now I'm on Optic and I'm just blowing my chance. Right. But it's like people forget or like, I didn't, I didn't just get an optic through fucking, just some easy way. Like, I was a Halo Pro for, let's see, what I was, 2008 to then when I joined Optic, 2015.

So, like, seven years of gaming. But, like, even before that, it's just, like, all the gaming I did and all the times where I didn't go out and I just practiced Halo and just to be a professional gamer and, like, a top professional gamer. Like, that's why I got into Optic. It's shit wasn't just, like, given. Then completely altering your lifestyle from professional gamer to professional. content creator it's like there's no leeway there it's just like you're done playing video games will now dedicate your life bro i remember uh when even while i was competing in halo like they would still i would still get shit if i wasn't making videos and stuff right but like now it's like no

they're winning like for the cot theme it's just like no their jobs to win championships right how come i didn't have that when i was a halo pro i still got fucking verbally annihilated I mean, everything is. Because I'd sleep till 3 p.m. But, like, I'm practicing Halo throughout the night. Yeah. Or if I don't stream. Damn.

Do you remember how much shit you guys got for not practicing the day that views came out? Which, thank God you guys didn't. Wait, really? Oh, yeah. Wait, we didn't practice. Remember what we were? What was it? Just another day of practice?

Yeah, it was just a scrim. It was just a scrim day. Who do we get shit from? The optic fans? Because that was when you guys, like, weren't. I forgot who was on, I forgot who was on the team in the team. point. I think Mike had already retired. I can't remember.

But you guys didn't practice and one of the opposing teams were like, well, we were supposed to practice HALA. We were supposed to scrim Optic today, but they're listening to the Drake album and all, that shit. And one optic member, one optic

fan got a hold of the tweet and it was just like posted on Reddit. Yeah. I don't remember that. I don't even know if I ever knew that. Yeah, it was, it was, you got so much shit for it. And somebody tweeted, because remember my tweet? It was like, you guys have obviously never listened to a Drake album,

a release day with Nick and shows. I tweeted that and somebody replied, remember how much shit they got for that? If only that was our biggest problem now. If the biggest optic problem is the Halo team not practicing because views just, I can't, that's funny though. Yeah. It's one of the things.

You just kind of, you just kind of got to eat that one. Because I remember I was like, yeah, whatever. Like, y'all are doing too hot. You should be practicing. But also, fuck it. It's Drake's album just came out. Whatever. Yeah, I don't really remember that.

But that's funny. I'm glad I did. I'm glad I didn't practice that night. Just listen to Drake. That I will never forget that night. That night was, it was like, when we all were in, who's scumps room? It's scum's room. Me, you.

Was it? Scum's room at the time? Yeah. Like, I don't know if it was. Wait, yeah, it was. Was it? Yeah, because you were laying on the bed. Was scumpt even there?

Yeah, because I was laying on the bed with me or something? I don't know. I can't remember. Yeah, I remember laying on the bed. I think there was a couch like at the other end of the room. Yeah. Some people were on. It was, it was me, you, uh, scump, Pumage, Nato, Notto's X.

Wait, what? Yeah. That's funny. I feel like there was somebody else there too, but I can't remember. I can't remember who it was. But we were, I feel like it was like ace. I don't know. It might not have been.

But we were all, we were all there. And I'll never forget whenever pop style came on because that was one where we were like, we were like, okay, we've already heard pop style because it's been a single forever. And then we found it got to the second. So we were just kind of like chilling there and all the lights were off. All the lights were off. We were sitting in the dark listening to it on the surround sound. And pop style came on.

And so we were just kind of chilling listening to the first verse. And then the second verse comes in. And he completely cut Kanye's and Jay-Z's verses. And he starts rapping. And we were like, what the fuck? Because his second verse is really good. Really? On the actual album.

I remember the song, You With Me? me. Pbeth. People that I need it know when I'm doing this door and I got a jack to make a day

this flow. Same. I remember that one too. I could, the only reason I didn't say that one is because I couldn't remember the song title. Yeah.

It's called you with me, right? Yeah. You with me? You with me? Dude. I feel like that's a moment I might remember for life.

Yeah. Because we were, dude. Dude, I was fucking, I remember just freaking out when I heard that verse. Yeah.

He just starts ripping it. Because it's such a chill song and there's possibilities and people that I need and no way to because he's never he never hit a note like that like yeah like he's never sung like that was that the first album because that was the first out the only the things that he had released prior to that were uh if you're reading this which he wraps his ass off that whole album and then and then he did the the dual album with future which he's just rapping the whole time and so those were his two previous before that she was a fucking or two. And then views came out and he's like singing the whole time. Yeah. The first song, Keep the Family Close. It's my favorite. I remember listening to it the first time and I was like,

this is my, this is going to be my favorite song. Really? I remember listening to it. Dude, I got to pee. We might have to make a cut in the video. Because it's, it's so early and I'm like, I got to pee. This fucking chug of water or jug of water. Um, yeah, fuck. I remember when I heard Keep the Family Close, I just like, didn't. I was just like, eh, he tried. some weird shit. But then like a year later when I listen to it, I'm like, this is one of the best songs. And it's so different from what he usually does. Yeah.

It's like one of my, that's probably one of my favorite, favorite songs. I'm going to take a piss. All right. All right. Welcome back to this. So today's episode, which is 29 of the flycast, is brought to you by Just CBD. The obviously CBD company, just CBD store.com is where you get all of this. their products.

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they're spending less money on CBD than marijuana, and it doesn't affect their daily grind. They don't feel as out of it. And they said it still helps them feel calm. I was like, hell yeah. I think I need to, my sleep has been so bad lately. Same. All we had was, do we still have that CBD joint?

Yeah. I was very surprised we still have that. You still have yours? Yeah, I've still got mine. Well, we took, we had two, right? Yeah. Who smoked the first one? I was, I, I, I did.

I'd try it out. Oh, so we got, they're still mine. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Still got mine. You got yours. Okay. I was just making sure that's what we're saying. Yeah, I want to try that.

I need something, because my sleep has been fucking terrible. I don't really know why. I just wake up like 10 fucking times a night. Just, I'll fall asleep. First off, I can't even fall asleep. But then I'll fall asleep by, like, 4 a.m. It's hard at streaming at night, too, because I feel like wired.

I'm exhausted after my streams, but I'm like wired. It's weird. Same. But yeah, I'll fall asleep by like 4 a.m. I'll randomly wake up. It's like 7. I'm like, what the f? Then I'll randomly wake up again.

It's 10. Then I'll wake up again. It's 11. Then I feel like I'm just barely getting sleep lately. I've been getting out of bed at like 2. And it's depressing. Yeah, I've been. The last two nights because the stream has been so crazy lately because of the whole optic situation.

And then yesterday I got a complete revamp in my stream, so we've been kind of grinding, which we haven't done in a while. I stopped streaming at 4 a.m. one night and then 5 a.m. last night. So I didn't go to sleep until 7 both times. and then I've been waking up at like 1230. So it's like that's not a lot of time. Like I should. But I can't stand the feeling of waking up at like three. It's the worst.

It's the worst. You feel like because what time is it like? Five. And what have you done today? Nothing. Showered eight. Flycast. Shower eight fly.

It's five. Yeah. And then I haven't done shit either. I woke up at like 2.30. But I did also go out drinking last night and I woke up at like 8 a.m. and was super hungover. Like pretty bad. This morning?

Yeah. Oh, wow. And it's still kind of like in me. Yeah. But I'm feeling better. You went out last night. Where did you guys go? To Henry's and then Scruffies and then some of them.

and some other place beside it. It was dead. The whole night was pretty dead. Drunk for no reason. Right. Forget about our problems. Forget about being homeless in two weeks. You know.

Did you get an optic tat? Nah. I think I'm going to go next week, though, and get one. Really? I think I'm going to go next week and just spend, like, hours there and get, like, three to, like, five tattoos. Really? How long do they take them?

Did you go with them? No. I know it takes them an hour to get there. I said it didn't take that long to do them. Yeah. I was going to go. I was going to go, but it took an hour to get it. I was about to stream, and it took an hour to get there from here.

So I was like, that's two hours on the road. Yeah, two hours on the road, at least an hour there. Right. And I want like, like, I think the tattoos that they got looked sick. I haven't seen Will's. They look sick. I like it. Well, I don't know if he's taking a picture of it.

I won't tell. Okay. But I know Bozes is out there. So, Moses looks really good. And then Mike's showed me today, and it looks really good. Yeah.

But I want, like, I don't want just, like, a black one. I want, I want something on my arm, and I want it to be, like, somehow incorporate, incorporate, like a summertime vibe with an OG logo.

Really? Yeah. Like, so, some sort of, like, intricate thing. Yeah. With, like, colors and stuff. Like Mike did, wait, has he shown his? I don't know.

That's why I didn't want to say it. Yeah, I won't say his though. He's sick though. It is really cool. I think, I don't know where I want tattoos though. I'm thinking, I want a neck tattoo, but people keep saying. No. Literally, every time I think I probably told five people and every response is,

next time, next time Alexis comes over, she can draw it on you. And then you can see. I want to get. I want her to. do i want her to do a full sleeve on me just to see what it would look like i want to get actually where would i want it i want one behind my ear and then i want a neck on the opposite side of that dude you would click big hell yeah out of that video what do you mean how would you even got neck got my first neck tattoo and the thumbnail is just the whole oh i already have a like thing

speaking of clickbait i have a a plan for my next video i'm going to do some kind of some kind of like workout video and I have a picture of right when I got my injections in my butt. Do you? And then just have that as a thumbnail. Like true story of how I got my, how I got big so quick. Some thumbs shit like that. I don't know if I'm actually going to do it. Because there's like there's clickbait and then there's the accelerated.

There's like the next level of clickbait where it's like I know you're bullshitting, but I can't call you out on it because like we talked about like some phase people doing it. or some people just in general, they're like the true story of why this happened. And then it's like not anything close of what you thought the video was going to be about, but it's also not not what, you know what I mean? Not not what the video is about. Right. It's not like it's just, ha, gotcha.

But it's like you guys wouldn't really think that I would. Yeah. I just don't want to call someone out. Yeah, I don't want to call someone on. I think we're on the same page. Yeah. I don't want to call someone out either. But it's like, that's, I guess that's the way to, that's the way to do it.

Oh, that's the best way. Yeah. How he did it. You don't, you know, because it's not like you're tricking people. Yeah. You're not not tricking people. Yeah. I mean, you know what's going to draw people into the video.

Right. That's, yeah, that's something that I got to, I'm, I'm torn right now between what I want to do. Because I think, like, a really, what I, what I, I guess, I've been so ingrained on like the upload a lot. mentality because of how I started with daily vlogs where it's like if I don't upload a day I kind of get anxious but I feel I don't like the upload I like good videos yeah I'm confident in saying if you go to my channel pretty much every video is good yeah I agree with that kind of worth watching right see I can't say that that's the thing I can't say that that's why I think I want to like in the future I'm not saying right now but in the future like a couple months from now After we figure out... Do a whole rebamp... Rebent. Do a whole revamp of your YouTube

as in just start, click, capital letters, screaming, clickbait, thumb down. I might have to. I don't know. I don't know. But I don't think people would like that. You could do it in your own way.

I could. And I know I could. But I think like the trivia video I did where you guys are, it's like a trivia about yourself. That video did really good. And it got like 80, or something. So it's like if I do

two videos like that a week, that's a really healthy YouTube channel, like really healthy. Especially since it's not like the daily, the daily video stuff can really only be for vloggers and people that stream highlight videos. Because those videos

There's nothing to fucking, there's not shit daily. If you want to do daily, it'll be like some shit like gameplay video where it's just not even that. People will click on it just because they click on anything you upload on your channel. It's like I think it's still important to do like what to be like widespread.

Like you can whenever I think about what I did on a certain day, it's like at least I was in something. Like at least I was like there. At least I had a presence somewhere within our circle or on on the internet. So it's like if we were in the eavesdrop one day and then it's like, okay, I don't have to, I don't have to like really vlog because I don't have to. have to stress about having a vlog and if I put a vlog up or if I streamed a lot or if I was in somebody else's video. It's like at least the presence is there. That's like the, that's like the biggest part. It doesn't help with your financial analytics, but at least it helps for just being there, I guess. Maintaining relevancy. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. You know what? The most important

part of like growing is definitely collaborating. That's something that we. I never do. Like don't we don't do it. I can name like on my one hand probably how many times I've streamed with another person. Right. It's like, or if I do play with people, it's like they don't have like views. Right. Exactly. They're just like good friends. Yeah, and I just like playing with them.

Because I feel like, dude, it's weird. Like I've, I've done it a few times. We're like playing with bigger like, like Doc Ninja. Like yeah, Doc Ninja, Jack, scissors yeah whoever the fuck right

I've done that a few times and it's like it just seems like I feel like I'm just I'm waiting to be put in an Instagram Instagram video yeah like none of this is really real like I'm in a fake

I feel yeah I know exactly but I wonder if that's because I feel like they get on and they I don't want to talk for them because I don't know but I feel like they probably get on and see it

as like a job, like, okay, let's put on a good performance and get some clips and stuff for the day. I'm sure they're all friends, but I'm sure they're all coworkers. You know what I mean? Exactly. They're like, yeah, they're all co-workers. They get on, like, Jack gets on and he's like, okay, today could be, you know, me and Tim or me Tim and Ninja or me and Connor, let's get to Connor. And that's, I know Jack, Jack's a psychopath. Like, if you, if you talk to Jack about YouTube, it doesn't stop. It's like, it's, it's, it's like, yeah, like analytics here. If we did this with the thumbnail, if we did, and it's like, he's constantly working to the point where it's like, oh, it's addicting talking to him about it because it's cool to see where his brain is, but I, every time I'm done

talking to him, I'm like, he has to be, I don't know how he's not exhausted. I mean, some people are just different. Yeah. He was, I mean, he was, he's obvious. He's been, but, uh, Jack has been like that since I since he was just a fan of Halo since he had 2,000 followers on less than that like since he was a fan of Halo and he hit like me up to play Starcraft I think

he might have said he could like carry me or something but I played with him and he had that energy back then when no one was listening right I'm not recording it for a video we're literally just playing in Skype or something right because no one else is hearing it and he still had that energy so like that's just

jack Yeah, no, he's... He's different. He is different. But I wonder who else is like that. Because Jack, Jack has made the already successful people more successful. I know he has. Like, if you think about like Dr. Lupo, Tim for sure, maybe even, I mean, Connor is a different story.

He changed that dude's life. And then you think about like even, I bet you it's even trickled up to Ninja, where it's like Jack's grind and his thumbnails and his... editing style and is the fact that he found Swapa and like a manager the like if you look at dr. Lupo's videos and Tim's videos prior to meeting Jack and his their videos now it's like completely different yeah because they they change their editors they change their their collaborative like efforts and they change their thumbnails and they just get at least like 300,000 more videos views of video I feel like I'm funny

I was going to say, I feel like I'm funnier by myself. Like, I feel like it's kind of, I don't know. I do need to collab more because I haven't like, even like giving it a fair chance or whatever. Yeah. But like I feel like I do hold my own very well just being by myself. Like can you think of one person, not even just in gaming, but on YouTube, on social media, that made it huge by not, like without collaborating. I think Nick Merck's is the only one that I saw rise that quickly without

Clabbing because he but he was the only person he still collabed he collabbed after he made it Like he was getting 20,000 views viewers of stream really just playing two B two tournaments I think because he represented him he represented console I think so too yeah he was literally the face of console four tonight Right so every I wonder what the percentages of like people watching a stream the percent of them using console like it's probably so compared to like ninja or something right it's probably like crazy i'm sure console players love watching nick yeah they have to yeah dude i can't believe nick i was very surprised when i see like nick placing in um like still placing well in these tournaments with all pc players and stuff

making aided link they were they were doing really well i don't know if i don't know how like consistently what's going on right now in four night do you know no idea i've been thinking about hopping on really but gta getting you down though gee i mean there's only so much fake life i can live fucking i hop on gta fucking like at first it's hilarious and it still is like every single night i stream i find myself like dying laughing within some point of the night.

Right. Like something funny happens. Like the other night, we were, this is how bored it got. We were like, yo, or someone we were like riding around with. It was just four of us in a car riding around. And one of them was like,

yo, Nick, and I was like, what? And he was like, chicken butt. And I was like, okay. I was like, hold up. What if we all put on chicken head mask? And then we just post all four of us the car then pulled up to people and then just like yo like this dude named thor was in the game the other day we're like yo thor he's like what like chicken butt and then just sped off like that's

what our content came to we all put on chicken head mask and then just would go up to people and say like yo guess what what chicken butt and then just drive off yeah and then yeah like that's and that that shit i was explaining you're like i'm 27 yeah yeah exactly Exactly. Like, that's what it came to. And, like, the start of playing GTA was, like, every interaction was hilarious. Because you're like, oh, these guys are really in this role play shit. Like, like, this one dude, like, oh, this one dude actually got pissed off the other day.

Like, we were doing a fight club where, like, literally people were just fighting one-on-one. Yeah. And, like, we did it a tournament style. It took, like, an hour and a half or something. Okay. But, and then this one dude, I think one dude was talking shit about this other dude getting knocked out. Like, but they're like in game, I guess role playing. Like it's your character is getting knocked out, not you.

And then you're just like, what? Talking shit and like squared up to him in the game. But like this guy was actually fucking mad. Then you just start swinging on the dude. And then like ended up like killing him or whatever. And he was like, yeah, pussy. Like screaming in his fucking mic. actually like not in character was he in character not really not really like it was genuine like anger

yeah pussy shut the fuck up talking shit what happened now like and everyone else is sort of like I'm sure everyone's sitting at their PC just like what the fuck and then the dude that got knocked that was like oh oh you big mad which I'm sure just pisses them off even more. But, like, every night, I guess there's an event. Like, there's some sort of event that can take up, like, an hour of the stream, and it's, like, pretty funny or entertaining. But then it's, like, working a normal job isn't fun.

You can be, like, a postman, a truck driver, but it's, like, that's not fun. So it's, and then it's real, you have to play, you have to value your life, so it's like, you can't really just go around. killing you can't go around killing people right um so right now i think i'm at a point it's like what the fuck like what am i doing my server is a lot of just like normal people playing like simple roles like i'm not on like no pixel to where they got fucking the dude from splinter cell like dressed up as the dude from a splinter cell is he sounds exactly like that really like they have characters on that shit like have you ever watched eva play no she on no picture yeah and she just

runs into character after character and like they're really good at role playing and like that's not i would say that's not really what this server is doing here's like the camart version yeah ours is just like the normal people that are going to act like this is role play but like most people on it they kind of talk like how i do right like oh shit what's up man like they don't have like a character right they're just playing this like a gta killing role yeah like our town's just full of People that'll kill, yeah. Dude. Yeah, so I've never, I've never, I honestly have only watched one, I've watched some of your videos or some of your streams, and then I've watched one, uh, uh, Jack video with Jack.

And Jack's like super in character. And it's like, I don't know. And I, I do it with my stream on or a camera on. Right. And it's like, I just know at times it's cringe because they can see me, if I ever try to, like, get into the roleplay, they can just like literally see me like, you're so motherfucking gay, that's what I fucking thought. And I'm just like, they're just staring at me in my webcam.

I'm like, I want to try streaming without a webcam, but every time I mention it or do it for 30 seconds, like, no, no, everyone leave. Yeah. I'm like, grow up. One day I might just fucking turn the camera on, but I don't know if I'll get like interaction or like support throughout the stream. Yeah. If I'm like trying to, if I'm really just playing the game,

like no one ever subs. No one ever donates. No one ever. But it might be more, and to some people it might be more interesting for me to just be playing the game. Yeah. But then others,

I know they just want my chat on and they just want me to talk to them and chat. And like, that's where like the growth of my stream comes from. Yeah. That's how our vibe is too. When I fucking put my shit on full screen, like the camera on full screen, that's when most of my subs happened. That's the most, yeah, that's the most part.

The one gives a fuck about the gameplay. Yeah, just like revamped my entire stream. And so after we're done with a match in Cod, I click intermission and it brings up like a fuller screen of the three of us. And then like, you know, a tiny little window for the game. And that's like we've gotten so much more support in one stream. just because we, they see more of us in between matches and we talk to them, we talk to the chat, you know, constantly. Yeah. So we've seen, I've seen more people stick around in the past two days than I've probably ever had in my, like my stream.

Yeah. Well, like viewer account, but also like, you know, how you get the same, like the same people in your stream. Oh, yeah. We're getting more. Oh, I have the same people. Right. Yeah. I mean, I've had the same people, say, some of the same people that have been, they've been in almost every stream for like five years.

Yeah. or three years. That's crazy that every streamer probably has that. Oh, dude. Did you see Ninjas? Ninja, who was it, Ninja? Yeah, Ninja tweeted out his longest resub, and it was a dude with, it was something crazy.

It was like 89 months or something like that. Something insane. From like 2011. From like Justin TV. He said this is from Justin TV. Damn, that's crazy. And it's like still, still. still he should get prop like if you a sub should be like a stock like if you invest you should be

able to invest into a streamer that's true and then if they like the more successful they get but you invested early yeah i don't fucking know you get what i'm saying but like like that guy deserves something for being subscribed since that's true just in tv i kind of invest who who have you invested in that blew up besides jack would you would you who in that situation? I think I was watching... I've been subbed to Ava for fucking 65 months or something. Has she, like, blown up, blown up?

I mean... I feel like she's just been a good success level for a while. She's always been, like, a top five. I don't know if I've blown up. I don't know. I mean, scissors used to... Scissors is a good one. Cissors used to come in my H-1 streams and just, like...

Yeah. I don't want to say fan boy, but, like, he just, I guess, thought I was funny. and watched my H1 streams and then I think we played a few times together. Really? Wait, wasn't he an H1 pro? I can't remember if he was a pro.

He wasn't. No, I don't think he was a pro, just a streamer. Because he would come into my H1 streams too. And he was like, I remember the first time I saw him, I called him Cizors. Like I said, I was like, Cizors. And then I was like, it's obviously Cizzers. And then it was just like, CIS raid, CIS raid. And he had like a pretty, pretty, like a pretty good following.

But then Fortnite came out and he just took off. Because I remember when he was blowing up, I was like, dude, that's the guy that raided me and, like, brought his viewers into my stream, like, three months ago. And now he's on phase and so much bigger. But, like, that wasn't somebody where I was like, oh, this guy's funny. And, like, I bet you he's going to blow up. Like, he came, he introduced himself to us, kind of. Yeah. I would go to his stream and, like, I'd be like, oh, he's a good.

streamer. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. You can tell when someone, it wasn't you that I was talking to you about Pete, like you can tell when someone's a good streamer.

Who the fuck wasn't? I don't think that was me because you said that at the beginning of the fly cast. Yeah. Yeah, you really can though. Like, if you watch any of Nick Merck's blackups three streams,

you'd be like, yeah, he's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna blow up. But he was also savage back then, like savage, Savage.

Which is weird. He was pretty good at Cod. Nick? Yeah. Yeah. Him and his two guys, they won a shit ton of tournaments. The M-Fam?

The M-Fam, yeah. Because they would, it was like three-by-three tournaments, it was just a rap. Like, I remember he DM me for whatever Ghosts came back around, and he was playing threes all the time, and we were the only other threes team.

Like, we're the only other threes team. And so he was like, do you guys want to do like a $15 wager? We were like, sure. And got destroyed. No, they beat us They beat us 3-1, so we took a map,

but I just remember I was like, yeah, that was still when I was like... Well, just like 3V3 S&D? Yeah. Because there was a time where I was like, nobody can fuck with us. Like, that's how I felt.

It was a typical AMI. Like, I just don't know. AIME mentality. I just didn't know. I really didn't. Typical AMI. I really didn't know. because Blake,

Blake George and I, we always thought, you know, the only reason we're not pro is because we don't have the time to dedicate to being pro. Like, we don't know the... Well, now y'all do.

So are you all pro yet? No, that's what I'm saying. Like, like, I've probably told this on the podcast before. It's hard to keep up. But the, um,

it was literally, it was in the scuff house when I realized. Like, I had lived with scump and crim and I still thought, oh, I could go pro. Like, I could go pro. in another world, if I chose video games instead of videography, I could have gone pro for sure.

And we were playing, we had streamed and played Mono4 2 for like three months. And we were just playing throwback matches. We were playing wagers. That's what my stream was. And then I announced the Mono for 2 throwback tournament, got all those top players in the tournament. it. And then, so the, uh, some people hopped on to play. It was like J-Cap and Akes and a couple other people. And Josh wasn't on. It was just the three of us. And temp was like, yo, you need to fill in? And we were like, yeah. I think you told this like last fly cap. Did I fuck? I was scared.

I remember that. Yeah. Fucking temp filled in. He dropped like 52 and 18. He dropped like 68. And 18. Yeah. And I was just like, shit's different it is different i saw you there's levels to the shit i saw you tweet that you are like oh and 20 against ola oh yeah i think hmm i've had to have beat him but i've lost to him a lot and roy and i think roy and lunch i beat them like once and that was the event i won oh yeah oh wait Oh, you beat them in 09 or? Yeah, no, no, no. Okay.

The event I won. Were you going to? Yeah, yeah. But the second... Bro, you always forget about it. Well, the second event, it's like, that event, like, I always say I won two events, but, like, the second event I won was... Like, it was...

A release date invitational? It was Halo 2, so, like, everyone already played Halo 2, but it's on, like, a different engine, so it's... And, like, people... People went to the event and never played the game before. But, like, it's still, yeah. Oh, oh. Never played the remastered version.

Yeah, they didn't play the remastered version. I thought you said, like, Halo Reach Pros went and never played Halo 2 before. Yeah, no. So, like, everyone played Halo 2 before, so everyone knew the game. But once we got there, we had, like, a day to kind of, like, play the game and get used to it. And then the next day was the tournament. So it's not like teams had, like, weeks and months to practice. Yeah.

I mean, I still say an event win. but did anybody do you remember anything about because obviously you talk about we're kind of all over the place in this flight cast but in oh nine you talk about how dm and d went ape shit in mcc do you remember anybody just frying i know you fried the last series because that's the only one i watched i mean formal was really good yeah um in mcc because i remember i remember i talked to formal and he was like i was i was like Formal playing Cod at that time. Yeah, that was his first event. But then he took a break. Dude, or like.

That event, that MCC event was his first event on Optic. He had just joined Optic like two weeks before that. Oh, shoot. For Cod, yeah. And then went to that event randomly. And then just wins that event while being a Cod, while being on the Optic. And I remember him tweeting out like GGs to everybody. And I saw you and I was like, who's this douchebag?

Really? Because he were like Doing one of those Looking cool Yeah looking cool And I remember seeing APG And I was like I bet you he's real

He's hard Bro APG is a character Those were the best times In my life Yeah Fulner said Well I don't know how much Of an exaggeration this is

Because formal Formal can to exaggerate sometimes But he said he cried after that Because he wanted you to win it so bad Because that's when you guys were like Buddy But like tight and he was like

because I think he said he knew you needed the money or something like that and so he cried when you guys won I was like I probably did that's nice that's a nice thing to say yeah that's nice I wonder how he's doing

dude those were like the funnest times of my life were especially T.J. and Brad T.J. Brad and then like formal but then there was also ace and like that was the

funnest fucking group that was the funniest fucking group to hang out with. Like that was those guys. Like on Skype and stuff. Just, yeah, Skype,

but mostly like events. Yeah. Like we even, I think we went to like Cod events. Really? Um. Prior to Optic? Um,

I think, yeah. Yeah. Me APG, Ace and T.J would just like share a hotel room. Oh man. That shit. We would be hammered.

Yeah. I was what I'd say. I can't even watch it. In other stuff. The whole week out. It was, it was some of the best. I never.

of times. I never met. Actually, I might have met, but I never got to know single T.J. Was single T.J. Wild? Well, I guess you didn't, huh? Right. Because the single T.J. Wilde. I mean, he would come out to, like, clubs and shit with us. Like, it was, it's definitely not the T.J. you know now. Right. Well, I mean, it's probably the same. He still has that, like, sick humor. Yeah, sick humor. And obviously, he's not a different person around him. Yeah. Like, they're the same. They're both fucked up. Yeah, no, he just used to, he was definitely more reckless. He would get more fucked up.

And he would just, like, we would just, like, go club hopping and that's, I can't even see. I can't even imagine, I can't even imagine, TJ in a club. Yeah. It's got to be hilarious. It's like, I don't know, it's fun. It's kind of like, I've only seen, I only saw Matt, I only saw a formal in a club once and it was in Australia. Really? And, yeah, he was against the wall doing this.

Like, not like, it wasn't bad dancing, but it was just like grooving, like very chill, exactly what you would think formal would do at a club type thing. And then sets on the dance floor. I think I've. I think I've been to a few with Matt. Really? Yeah. But he would, he's never, he's never been like. Yeah, never wild.

Like he might get drunk, but I don't know if I've ever seen him. His like. energy level is always here. Yeah. It's like never, he's, I've never seen him hyper per se. Which is why whenever him and Seth were really good friends, it was always hilarious. Because he would be like, chill. And then Seth would be fucking bouncing off the walls.

Um, damn. That's, maybe that's why you get along with all those people. Because you're not really friends with like hyper people. You're friends with a very, I'm friends. I'm friends with them. But I guess, yeah, I guess. I guess I can. just like be around.

Yeah, I'm kind of the same way. I just get fucking exhausted. I was like, people see me be extra and they'll watch my stream highlights where I'm fucking going ape shit, but besides that, I'm very, like, I'm pretty, like, chill. Oh, it's probably weird how, like, chill I can seem and then, like, on stream or... On stream is different, yeah. I mean, even just, I don't know, I have my moments of being hype and annoying. Same.

I can tell whenever I'm in. annoying too like you know me i'll go and like i'll have a time of like a week or two where i can just you can just tell i'm annoying yeah but you're not like hyper annoying you're just like like like i don't know i like talk a lot like talkative yeah that's what i'm saying talking about annoying how's your butt man my butt um it's healing today or i went in just the other day um well a few days ago and we took the band off. I was like, it's been, because they told me it takes like seven to 10 days to heal. And I called my doctor. I was like, my ass itches. But it was the band-aid that was just like making it. She was like, all right, just come in. We'll take it off. And then there's, I have a bandage,

but then there's like a strip underneath that's like kind of holding the cut. Okay. So yeah, we took the bandage off and then the strip that's holding the cut kind of like fell off. with it and then I just had like a hole in my ass and with blood just kind of starts dripping out and I'm like this can't be should have kept it on I guess they're like oh no you're fine then they just gave me another bandage and now it's been like a week and a half since a little operation um and I guess it's it hurts still like certain certain movements definitely hurts it whenever I'm I warm up at the gym by playing basketball and I can't like run around.

Really? When I'm missing my shots and it's bouncing way over there, I can't like jog to go get it. I'm like, fuck, I'm just walking. Yeah, I can't do much on it. Because like when I'm like jumping or like running, I can like feel my butt cheek. Bounce?

Bounce. I can like feel my butt cheek and the pellets and like the, the cut. just like something ain't right like I shouldn't be doing this I mean they told me I feel like today might be day 10

and they told me 8 to 10 days they heal and then you're fine so maybe you're just you have a unique butt it's taking a little bit longer for you I think I do I mean I do have like sensitive skin and shit how

is it working is it affecting your personality I think I think in certain ways because what I'm what is weird actually is like on stream and shit I've been laughing a lot but I feel like

I almost feel like my humor is like dwindling like I feel like I've had less funny jokes huh Is it because your humor Like I feel more serious and more focused Okay

Wow Yeah it's weird But I don't, this could not, this could like not have to do with this. It could just be like this, a few weeks in my life. Yeah. But yeah, I feel like, and also because I am streaming at night now and I hate streaming at night. Like, if I could, I want to wake up early like 10 a.m. and start streaming. Right.

That's when I feel like I'm at my best self. Yeah. Like energy wise and stuff. But I definitely have more energy. I feel like my endurance when working out is really good. Like I found just the other day my last workout or yesterday. I thought I caught myself grunting. Like while I'm like I don't know how many times you've been in a gym,

but there's obviously just big dudes who are. Yeah. Right. That's like how I am. Really? You're turning it to one of those. Slightly. You're going to get out of a lifetime.

a lot less volume. Yeah. But I'm finding myself just being more into it. Right. Like more focused on it. And I guess it's not really placebo. Like this shit in my ass ain't placebo. Yeah, there's no way as placebo.

But yeah, my workouts are like a lot. I think knowing I have this in my butt, I'm like, let me get the best out of it. And I'm like going pretty fucking hard at the gym. I wonder if like. It's lasting longer. Not in bed. at the gym. Definitely not in bed. That might be shorter. So that part's working too, I guess.

Yeah. Yep. Yes, it is. All right. I was taking a sip and I thought you had more to add. So, you know how like there's like those the big guys at the gym? I don't, well, they're always, they're kind of like obnoxious when they're, oh. I wonder if they're, and it's like, That's why lifetime fitness is like, oh,

anyone's accepted, like all these new gyms is, like very open to everybody. We encourage everyone to come because no, it's judgment-free zone. I wonder if they still have judgment zone gyms,

where it's just jacked guys. Yeah, and that's all they do is just like push each other and everyone's just, like a metro flex. Really? Maybe some,

I know Gold's gym doesn't give a fuck. Right. Um, yeah, I've heard of that one. That might be, Metro Flex Old's gym

There's just Like local gyms That like you know It's hard Like you walk in And it's like Everyone's in stringers Yeah

Probably can not even have a shirt on Yeah Just big as fuck That's true I'm not ready for that gym yet I'm sure it'd be a good workout though I'm sure it is I'm sure like once you get to that level

Where you don't have to worry about anybody Like you're not like Oh that guy's a douchebag You're like all that guy's fucking ripped. And then it's like if everyone is there together pushing, I'm sure not everyone's like, all that guy's a douchebag. They're like, oh, damn.

Like, I want to be like that guy or I want to push myself to be like that. I went to, uh, I was walking on Venice. For a judgment free zone, it's the little people that are really doing the judging. Of course. With the big people. Right. Well, well, I guess that. Maybe.

What if you're like a super jacked guy that's just going there? You don't think the guys are going there to impress people. people or to maybe I saw some document or it was either documentary or some YouTube video and he was just like I forget his exact quote but it was just like us big motherfuckers in here to make noise so we go make noise I was just like you're a tool bag yeah that's that like that's that's that cringy that's the mentality you don't want right that's the big guy that's not going to gold's gym he's going to Planet Fitness.

LA Fitness and just clanking. Yeah. Yeah. Boop. Yeah. It was actually pretty cool going, walking down Venice in L.A. And that's where like Muscle Beach is. Dude, that's, have you ever been there?

I worked out there. Did you? Oh, yeah. I had to. Just one time. Yeah. Just for the, I guess, I guess, say it. Just because it's like famous.

Right. Like Arnold and shit used to work out there. Yeah, he's got. That's what's crazy. Arnold used to be there. Fucking what? Sitting, 30 years ago. Sweety, stinky bench that you were sitting on.

And I'm just. Ass sweat, dripping. I touched Arnold's ass sweat. Hell yeah. But that was actually pretty cool because I was, I like stuff like that. Like just walking by it and seeing like where they do. They're like, have you seen the, um, shit? the two the two black guys that are fucking huge and like shredded and they do like

what's the shit calisthenics or like you're on the bar and pushing and leaning and rocking with the bar have you seen those guys they're like famous for being at that spot at gold or the Venice Beach or Muscle Beach they're literally famous for being there wow and when I was there one of them was there but it was like I don't know. It's kind of, like, that's, I guess, their job is being those guys at Muscle Beach. It's interesting. There's so many people that are so popular, but fame, not famous.

You know what I mean? Like, those guys at Muscle Beach probably walk around and they probably get recognized every once in a while, but, like, at the same time, they're really successful for that. Same with, like, the, same with, like, the lay twins. Like, imagine if the late twins walk down Frisco. They would be able to walk forever and not get noticed. They'd be fine. But they're famous.

Yeah. I feel like that, the first time I realized that was... That is weird. Whenever, like, battle rappers started following me on Twitter, and I've been watching them for five years. Like, these guys are famous in their, in their respected, like, demographic. But, like, I have twice as many Twitter followers as they do, which is weird. I don't know.

Like, your interactions within fans are, like, quadruple of theirs. Yeah. Like, your apparel would sell more. Yeah. Just, it is kind of crazy. It is weird. Because if I saw them, I'd be like, oh, shit. That's, that's Tayrock.

That's who sir. Exactly. And they would be like, who's this guy? Yeah, they wouldn't give a fuck. Which I guess is the, I guess that's. I'm going to start walking around, like, I'm that guy. That guy. Yeah.

Like, I need to go, who the fuck is you? No, I should probably not. Just go out the ninja. How many viewers you average? Oh, 50, 8,000. I got 550. It even happens on Twitch. Like, I remember the first time I met Castro, I was like, damn, like,

oh, so this guy's like a big FIFA streamer. I didn't know he was like, he averages like 30,000 viewers every stream. Really? Like, whenever, my sidebar is Ninja Castro. every time. Really? Yeah.

I don't follow him, so I don't know. But yeah, when I met Castro, I just knew he was like, yeah, a known FIFA streamer. Right.

And like, so when I met him, it's like, hey, it's something nice to meet you. Yeah, exactly. Which is the,

it's the best way to meet somebody. Yeah, because if I knew it was like that, it'd be like, oh, this guy's kind of a big deal.

Oh, shit. Even though I don't think I ever meet people, no. Even if I know there. Even when I met Derek, I was like, what I'm at Dirk? Yeah.

but that that's also different meeting dirk was different i guess he came over to the house a few times but i don't know one time we had a house party um yeah they they had like a dj upstairs and the were you there or were you like hiding no i was there okay that blake was over blake was there wait when they had a dj in the living room yeah damn because blake was over one time and then the other time he came over, Britney was up. And you know there's people that came all the way from the hood just to like do a house party with Dirk. Crazy.

That's kind of crazy. Like you walk in the kitchen, Dirk's just standing there with like, bro, I remember the first party. I walked in and I was looking around and I was like, I don't know which one Dirk is. Really? Yeah. I really just didn't know. I mean, you just didn't listen to his music.

But then after that, I listened to his music or I listened to a few of his songs. and I really like those songs. And then the second time you came over, I was like, okay, I know which one he is now. I know. I remember one of those times you told me young Doug might come over. And if that shit would have happened, that probably had been a life change.

That would have been life changing. I don't really remember, but I'm sure what Dirk was over. And then he said something to Bose like, yo, Young Doug might come over. Imagine. The cops would have come.

Because it would have got to leave. Everyone's just in there with backpack. And I'm like, what's in the backpack? Why do all of you have backpacks on? Holy shit, we did some. Yeah, that could have went. I could have went back. But I mean, that's every day for them.

Yeah, but it's not just them. It's just like how the scuff house was. We didn't like, we didn't care. Yeah. We care a lot more now. The doors were unlocked. Doors were unlocked all the time. Doors were never locked.

Parties were just parties. It doesn't matter if it was rappers or whoever. the fuck comes over. Whoever ends up in the house. Who ends up on Keemstar. Oh, man. Jesus. At least Keemstar had our back during that situation. Did he? Kimstar made a video, a Twitter video. He was like, guys, about this whole optic underage party thing, like, yeah, I get it. I had a party myself

where we tell people, no one under 21, and then just a bunch of people. Yeah. And then you go and you're enjoying your party. and next thing you know there's 100 people in the room. Yeah. And it's, which is exactly, it's sort of out of your control. Yeah.

I mean, it could be in your control if you're, if you just stop. Hey, I need everyone to show me their IDs right now. Like, sure, we could have did that,

but that's not going to happen. Yeah. So you kind of just like, you just don't expect. And I think people, you're just like, okay, this party's going to happen.

And then, do you realize how, like, lame those, that party was? Because it wasn't even, in like a party. It was like something happened. We invited a few friends.

Those friends, or it wasn't we. I don't know how. All I know is somebody was like, yeah, a few people are coming over tonight. And then I walk outside of the room. The garage is just packed. The garage is packed. TJ is like, what the fuck? Like, TJ was streaming

and had to stop streaming because it was so loud outside and outside of his room because he was right there, right? Right, right by the downstairs room. And it was just like there was so many people and we were just like, how did this even happen? Like, I don't even. And at that point, you just go to bed.

And I bet you whenever that people's mindset goes all automatically to the worst. They see us, the five of us in the living room dancing and there's just underage people all around us, which is not what was happening. It was just like we would walk down the stairs and. be like, like they basically rented out the scuff house for their party is what it was. Like, I mean, I don't know what else happened. That's just like a party though. I guess, like think of, it's only because it was at the optic house. Like, if you're at any other party, no one's saying shit.

Right. You know how many times I was at a party when I was underage that like the people didn't invite me there. But like my friend's like, yeah, I'm going to this party come through and I go to the party. Like to them, they don't fucking. but don't look at it like a fucking like whether it's illegal or legal it's just a party because i never i never i think it's different for me because i never went to house parties like i i think my first ever house party i was like 19 and i felt super out of place i was like when i was 19 my friends were like 23 and 24 yeah so i was kind of in that uh same position i remember it's it's it's

it's weird because looking back on it, I feel like that's a situation where I should have been, like, we should have been like, you know, like, get the fuck out, but we like weren't thinking.

But it wasn't like we were, it wasn't like we were like, we weren't like, like, you know, everyone should come over and have this party. It was just like it happened. And then we,

there were too many people there to be like, everybody go home. So we just went to our rooms. We just looked at it like, oh, I guess a party's. happened. Because I remember Brandon was there.

Brandon was there one time. It was me and Brandon. And then it was just like, you know, a few of the other girls that used to come over. And they were like 25, 26. We were all upstairs. Just talking together. It was like all of us.

And I think you were up there too. And they were like, so what is going on? And we were like, I have no idea. Don't like, I'm not even going downstairs. No. Brandon was like. Brendan said he was walking around one time and saw a girl and he was just like, I got to go. I got to get out of here.

Really? Yeah. I remember playing like Pong and shit a little bit. Yeah, that was the- And like chilling in the garage a little bit. I remember when we, yeah, Brandon and I played beer pong once and that's when the circle of death thing happened. I actually do remember, we were in the garage and then like more people pulled up with like six or like seven people it seemed like. Yeah.

I don't know who approached them, but we're basically just like, you know, no one else can come in. Yeah. And then we sent sent them home. They're just like, oh, that's cool. Yeah. We respect it. Respect. Respect.

Respect. Respect. Respect. Respect. Respect. I got class in the morning. So there was some kind of, yeah. So there was kind of some.

That little bit amount of. Do you remember the day after one of the dirk parties? The next day, people just showed up. Like 30 people just showed up. I remember that. At that point, Ian had had enough. Because their DJs, apparently their DJs just started telling people doing another house party again at. 1, 2, 3, 5.

Yeah, Mike Alpin. Dirk's not there. Yeah, Dirk's not. No one's there. We just saw people lining up in our driveway down the street. Ian went out there. It was like, no. And then Mike had to shoot people off.

It was weird. I remember Ian was like It was me, Ian and Big Timer, we were chilling after one of the dirt parties And Ian was like, I thought Because Ian went to go, we're into hotel that night Because it was so loud And then he was like, dude, I almost called the cops

On our own house And then Will was like, I'm not gonna lie, I was sitting there in my room And it was loud and they were bumping music at 4 a.m. And I thought, I wonder what would happen if I called the cops on us right now. Because you don't want to be that guy that comes out. All right, all right, guys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need everyone to go home. And then two months later, no one wants to be that guy. Two months later, Will's downtown Chicago, and Ian's moved in with Dana. Oh, Krim had enough. Yeah, Kripp had enough. It was fun living with Krim, though. Speaking of living.

Where are you going to live in like two weeks? Is it two weeks? Yeah. I think within the next two weeks. I've heard we'll know everything by this Friday for the past seven weeks. Today is Friday. Yeah. Yeah.

Today's Friday. Apparently I'm doing the eavesdrop that I've been wanting to do for a year and a half now, doing that tomorrow. Yeah. Why didn't that happen? It's like, I don't know, legality stuff, I think. Yeah. People are into my chat. Dude, it's crazy how many people are making this about them.

I guess it's not crazy. I understand it, but it's like if they don't get what they want, they're just automatically, they just want to lash out. So like a lot of people were coming to my chat yesterday, and I have like a command, and that's all my chat is is exclamation point eavesdrop. It's like the eavesdrop has been postponed. The eavesdrop filming has been postponed. And people are just like, oh, heck's bitched out.

Oh, I knew you wouldn't do it. You're not doing it. I'm just like, shut the fuck up. I have three pages of notes right over there. Yeah, I'm like, geez. No, I turned it to a psycho boy. I remember the morning or the, I guess, afternoon that you were going to go do it. And I asked, I was like, you know, you're kind of just pacing around.

I know whenever you're in that feeling of like anxiousness or like nervous or like a big thing, I guess a big deal for you is about to happen, you always, you'll be downstairs or like you'll be talking to someone and like pacing around. Yeah, I have to talk. to people. Yeah, I feel like when shit like that happens for me, I like go in my room. Really? And like hide, even though that's really what I do anyways. But yeah, I can tell for you.

Because whenever something's about to happen, you're downstairs where everyone's at, you're like pacing around, you're talking to everyone about what's going to happen. Yeah, I just have to. I can't not. It's not like I need attention. It's like, I just be in your bed like. I just like, dude, I was legitimately, I was thinking to myself, I was like, I'm a psychopath because I was I was in the shower like shower like getting ready for for the eavesdrop

because we were going to do it that night and um I was literally listening to like I was listening to like the Game of Thrones soundtrack in the shower. Do we have any ad after? Like but this was after I had written everything and I was just like, you just, eaveshops today. You just put on Game of Thrones fucking. It's like this one particular,

one particular song where like some shit happens at the end of it and there's a huge explosion and everyone dies. If anyone watches Game of Thrones they know exactly what I'm talking about. And that's what I was listening to

in the shower, just like fucking thinking, I can't believe the shit's about to actually happen. And it's like, I remember you were like, are you nervous? And I was like, this is probably the most nervous I've ever been for a video ever.

Because I don't know what I'm going to do. Because I've never had, I've never been so angry about something and so like torn about what I'm going to do about it. Or like what you want to say what you...

You don't want to say something but like damn I shouldn't have said that. Right. And the harsh truth about it is the reality of the situation combined with the optic fan base is

potentially like career ruining forever forever for a few people. And I don't know if I want to do that. Even though I want to do it. You know what I mean? And it's just like, so I'm just sitting there and I'm like, it's like, it's like, it's like nerve wrecking.

It's like, yeah, it's like nerve. I don't know. I don't know how else to say it. But apparently that shit's kind of still happened. Hex said and we're recording it tomorrow. Okay. So I, yeah. I think people listening to the flycast, they're like, I'm sure with this episode, we might

throw it in the title somewhere, but like they're going to look for something in this episode that's going to talk about the situation. Yeah. I guess we have to. That's all. Have you seen the Reddit, dude? I mean, we have to. So every, every day, I don't know, I know you don't know much about Reddit, but every day there's a daily discussion. So it's just whatever's happening that day in Optic. They average like 180 to 100 posts. Three days ago had 900 posts on it. 900 because about this whole situation but like this whole situation people kind of learn just as much as we do through the articles and shit that everyone's reading more about this situation through Reddit yeah because I mean obviously I'm close with hex I mean but there's definitely stuff that we know that like yeah there is but like we can't just like say that like there I guess there will there will be a time in place to say it Yeah. I just don't know if it's the fly cast right now.

I mean, we can't say anything now. Because I would like to talk about it, you know, be able to, I guess, take advantage of the worst and fucking clickbaited or something. Get a few more views before it all goes away. Yeah. Get a few more views so I can pay my deposit for my new apartment. But. One thing I can say is, is, Hex was pretty.

Hax was pretty pissed because he was just like, you know what's fucking stupid? We lived in 60-50 for that many years and then in the scuff house and we never had leaks. Nothing ever got leaked except for CS things. And that just happened because of other organizations.

But things didn't get leaked. And now all of a sudden there's like there's a hundred leaks a day about different things that are happening behind the scenes. Some of it's true, some of it's not. But, heck, it's just like, how the fuck, like, this is like, I've learned, like, you, even in business, like, you've got to keep your circle tight. Like, you, because.

So I guess in our situation, we might have to cut this. Okay. I mean, I guess we can talk about what our situation is, right? It's either sort of everyone's joining Immortals. I don't even know if that's the case. Or it might not be everyone joining Immortals. It could just be the Cod team in Outlaws or something. I don't even know.

And they could just be joining it and like the content team, like we might just have to do our own thing. Yeah. Or maybe Hex could get it. Because I don't know if Immortals is taking over the brand and they want to run the brand. So they want to run Optic. Yeah.

Through like some. Like I don't even think. Because like in this situation is Immortals coming in engulfing optic or are they coming in and they want to run optic how infinite ran optic which is like an umbrella sort of company or do they just want the cod team to be at the immortal's cod team or do they just because immortals they don't really give a fuck about anything immortals doesn't have a league of legends team so i think they want a league of legends team and there's also they're also getting the biggest cod team like the most impressionable cod

team. So it's like, but at that time, I mean, I feel like at that point, like if, if they told us that we had to be, if we had to change our stuff to Immortals,

I think we would all leave, which. Maybe. It depends, like, if there's, like, what's in it for us.

That's true. If it's the same contracts we have now. That may be. Yeah. I'm not even under contract. Really? Yeah. I don't think anyone,

we are, but like, Like if people like there's shit about like if you leave blah blah blah but it's like I think it's pretty free flowing to where there's like I guess a little bit of respect to where if like someone's not happy like they're not going to force someone to do something like if someone wants to leave they can leave blah blah blah as long as you do like a certain amount of content then you're on board shit's weird man it's weird watching it all go down. did you see what scum said after they uh after they won uh they won their last uh league game and uh he said uh it was it was great to get the win today and now hopefully hector can get a win for us on the other front and i was like what shit scump scum's like the only one with a pass though what are you going to say to skump

yeah he's like 50% of the org yeah that show was crazy i saw it haven't i was like oh I didn't see that tweet. I would have liked it. Yeah, he said it. So there's either that immortal side. I guess Hacks getting it. Then I don't know if Hax would even want to say. I don't think any of that is out.

That's the stuff. Okay. Well, well, people know, yeah, Hacks can get it. Or I guess it could just stay the same of what it is. No, it's not staying the same. Well, I think things would just change on the corporate side. But I think we'd still be optic. We'd still have the COD team, Gears team, LOL, shit like that.

It kind of remained the same. I think things would just change on corporate. I think maybe. Maybe. I'm not sure. I'm really not sure. And this is why we can't like just can't really talk about it. It really sucks.

We can't talk about it. It sucks. Because we talk about it. I mean, we could talk about it, but we can't talk about that. like well the the biggest thing their biggest reason the only reason really that i don't want to talk about it's because i don't want i don't want to fuck i don't want to fuck hex's thing up because yeah because there's like a bunch of legal shit going on dude everyone listening right now it's like fucking give us yeah i know it's like a bunch of legal shit going on but

but like hex has to be very careful yeah and you know if imagine this flycast is the reason I mean we ain't really say shit yeah yeah I mean it's just we didn't say nothing that's fucking not out there yeah and to be honest this is to be honest we don't know disclaimer of all is we don't know yeah we

I read the Reddit every day to get information anything we just said is allegedly and we don't know it's like we hear rumors from people, not from hex. We hear rumors from people on the corporate side, from people within content within each other that we've heard. And it could be a game of fucking telephone where it's like we're relaying the wrong information to each other.

We also hear stuff from Reddit. So it's like you guys are like you guys over at Reddit are learning more about this situation than we are. and thank you for telling us what our future might be. Yeah. Thanks, guys. My mom texts me every day. Really?

Yeah. Just about it? Yeah. She's like, just like worried and shit. Yeah. She's like, so what?

Are there any updates? And I'm like, I'll let you know. I think my mom's just like, man, maybe she knows I'll clutch it regardless. I think that's the biggest thing is right now I'm like in a mentality where like for a long time I kind of let it go.

let us all coming back. And everything that we said would happen fucking happened. Everything that we warned them about, 100% accuracy all happened. And that pisses me off. So it's like I was petty for a little while. I was sad for a long time. I kind of let it go. And now that it's all coming back around, it's just, it's not and I told you so.

It's like I fucking told you. You know what I mean? You don't really get mad. I get mad sometimes. Well, I think your point of view or like situation in that situation is a little different. Literally from the day one of moving down here. And like it all started with coming down here, seeing the Emerson apartment, then going into work and like them clocking in and then wanting you to clock in and sit at a cubicle. and then yeah yeah after like being promised in office and shit like that they want you to sit in the cubicle with the hundreds of employee or the 50 other employees they offered pomage a cubicle to stream at

dude oh my think about you don't they look they pointed at a desk for pomage while giving pomage the amount of and sprat and they said what would you think about streaming there and Pamis Bratt laughed. And they were like, and then realized that they were being serious. Oh, you don't get it at all. You don't know what you're doing. Dude, I want to know how many people, even people were close. I'm not going to say his name, but like people were close to now. Before they joint or before they got hired for Infinite, they didn't know anything about esports.

I can name seven. Yeah. And the amount of people that were hired that didn't know anything about e-sports. was fucking unreal. The fact that you can tell Pama, your boss. My boss, when I first moved down here, asked me who big timer was. Your boss, who they were taking sides with. Right.

And I like him. I like him. Like, he's a cool guy. And I was just very, very frustrated with the fact that he didn't know what's going on. But like, he's going to manage you. And then I didn't realize it until very, very, very much later. And I tried, I probably treated him like trash. but I didn't realize it until later

that none of it was his decision like he just got thrown into a position was trying to do the best that he could and was using his tactics that he was successful for him in the past and is very successful for him now because now he manages fucking Mr. Beast

and yeah he and Preston plays like he manages huge people so he knows what the fuck he's doing and he tried to take that over here And a lot of those things don't apply. And he quit. And he quit.

He quit because he was like, I can't believe I got thrown into this. Exactly. So at, and. I'm trying to manage people that I want stuff that I know nothing about. And if anything, they should be managing me. The, I think the biggest point is that I have three pages of notes in this eavesdrop might take three hours. And I have one story. storyline. I have no scope. That's what I'm talking about. The whole time, the whole time we're talking

about no scope. There's also a GGEA, which if you talk to TEPI about GGEA, he could probably talk for just as long about GGEA as I could about no scope. You could also talk about social. You get Blackbeard, sit him down in front of you, talk about social. He has war stories. And then Engage has their own shit. The apparel? All my. God, talk to anyone. It's literally, apparel, we have to fight for apparel. It's literally across the board. We have to fight for apparel and then we walk in the office and the office is

decked out. The people that work there are decked out in apparel. Yeah. And it's like, uh, let's see, I can give you this large. Let's see. We only got a few left. It's just like, what the fuck? Yeah. Like this isn't your apparel. Right. And it's like, it's just, it's just crazy, man. It's a bunch of people got in and over their heads. Yeah. It's not their fault.

They were just thrown into it. Yeah. It's like a, it's kind of like a, it's a kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of, everyone got jaw rolled. Dude, whenever I think about fire. Whenever I watch fire festival, the whole time I watched it, I was like, yep, I can understand this. The whole, the whole, that, every, a bunch of people probably watched that documentary and they were like, no way. There's no way this could happen. And I was just like, yeah, make it happen.

I very, very much understand how this could happen. It's a fire festival, fucking. Fire Festival, 2018. Fire Festival, V-Til. Yeah. So whatever. I got a little fucking, got a little red in the face there.

Wait, when are you doing the eaveshop? Heckstead, possibly tomorrow night, possibly Sunday night. But I'm leaving Monday, coming back on Friday. So maybe we'll try to get an update, bring it back on the next flycast. Yeah. Is this good? Yeah. Wrap it up?

I guess. Well, guys, it's been another episode here at the Flycast. We're staying strong with you. All I know is, no matter what happens, I'm going to fucking clutch it. Yeah. I'm going to clutch it. Oh, that was... And the flycast was the biggest thing is like, regardless, I'm ready for it just to happen.

Yeah. That's what I want. Yeah. I just want to fucking... I feel like... I feel like I'm... I feel like I'm warming up. I just put my cleats on and my shing guards.

I'm taking shots on goal. And I'm just ready for the fucking whistle. I don't care what happens after that. I just want to play. Oh. Oh. Do we have any outro music?