The Flycast - The Hardest Part of OpTic Paige’s Job | The Flycast Ep. 143

Episode Date: April 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you, what does this sentence mean? What does libido mean? You can't get it hard or like sex drive, I think. So this sentence, if you lose your sense of smell, you also lose your libido. That means I think it's like sex drive and I think you struggle to get it up. Okay. Just going to prove someone false real quick. Welcome back to another episode of the podcast episode.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Episode. Who gives a fuck? Page, what episode was it? I have no idea. 87. Hey, closer to the mic. Closer to the mic.
Starting point is 00:00:51 52. That just gave me PTSD from doing a halo pod with legend. I ain't gonna lie, man. Wait, how to go? How to go?
Starting point is 00:00:59 I'm all potted out. Y'all gonna have to carry this one. I thought you were going to say y'all. Bro, they sent me, Hage sends me the content she last week. Yeah? And I see a new halo pod. And my first immediately,
Starting point is 00:01:15 my first immediate thoughts are fuck it should be oh so cool well here's the issue none of these guys are podcasters and it just it i don't know why it just scares me i just live in fear all the fucking time so anytime something like new pops up or you send something in the call sheet or if i have to host or if i do a flycast by myself and i'm like if you have to host if you have to Like it's easier if it's like me or hitch Because like someone will hopefully have something to say if not whatever But when I'm just by myself It's just I feel like it's just all on me
Starting point is 00:01:54 So doing the Halo pod I saw that and I was I was genuinely I wouldn't even smoke till like 11 p.m. Because I was like if I smoke I'm gonna start thinking about it Then I'm just I'm just I'm psychotic Yeah I think I'm psychotic
Starting point is 00:02:11 I think I'm psychotic But I do this before Everything. And then everything always kind of works out. I didn't even watch it. Was it good? Everyone liked it. Everyone likes it.
Starting point is 00:02:22 But I think it, see, I'm like trying to downplay it and make it like a negative because I just fucking. That's everything you do? I'm a fucking addicted to doing that. But I was just so anxious about doing it and hosting it. What did you? So how did it? I haven't watched a game chat ever, which I probably sure. Really?
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yeah, I've never. Well, like. I haven't really either I don't Besides our latest one Well I never I didn't usually But since moving back And like splitting time
Starting point is 00:02:52 I'll like tap into them Just to kind of see what Yeah and I'm sure I'm saying because I'm not around I'm sure I would if I wasn't around them all the time Yeah But like I would watch the flycast Whenever whenever I was in Arizona
Starting point is 00:03:04 I would watch the flycast But then I would I would be so heartbroken Oh when you were gone you would watch it But then it would be so heartbroken This episode sucks Sometimes when I see a topic's not like you working out
Starting point is 00:03:15 like depression or like other things then I'm like oh I want to listen I already just see all that not that's not a serious topic but it's like you get to see all that
Starting point is 00:03:28 I get it or your Instagram story I get to see you depressed everywhere and like all of them yeah I don't know how game I mean game chat like these Shotsy and Dashy you've been around long enough
Starting point is 00:03:39 they make it work they figure it like they know how to like start a turn on the podcast shit Yeah, yeah, yeah. But with the Halo guys. I think Bound's got potential. I think Bound has potential, too. Renegades a little quiet.
Starting point is 00:03:50 But, like, I think renegades, Renegades not against doing it. Yeah. I think it's just not his forte. He just hasn't done anything like this. Renegade, he's, I don't think legend wants to, he's, I don't think he's comfortable with it.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Well, that's just so brand new. He doesn't speak English. No, yeah, that's just because of his, that's just because of his English right now. I think, I think, I think legend has it too. I think legend's going to be a lot like Hydra. Like, as soon. As soon as he like really locks in his English, he's going to be like hilarious.
Starting point is 00:04:21 But how do they scrim? Like, and I guess it's funny like learning English is like your second language and being a pro gamer. The first things you have to learn are like callouts. Like you got to learn what you got to learn what like top grandmas is before you learn like what Parmesan cheese is. You know what I mean? Like you have to learn. You don't learn. I want a piece of pizza.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Right. You say top tower, one shot. Let's rotate left. Snipes down. You have to learn, though. You have to prioritize those. English ain't that bad. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:04:57 It does. To fucking, I guess, say my point, it was just very anxiety-inducing. And, like, I didn't know how it'd go. You never know what fucking formal you're going to get. Yeah. I feel like you've seen that. Well, everyone's sort of seen.
Starting point is 00:05:14 You never know if you're getting the formal that's like willing to participate, be funny, joke around or the formal that hasn't slept. You guys filmed that at like two though, right? Yeah. That's good. Formal was kind of raging, actually. Because he was here at like, I think 10 a.m. doing the pod. Then there was something else after that. Then there was like a trivia after that.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And then it was like 1230, but the podcast wasn't until two. And then he even like kind of came in. He's like, I'm here to work. What the fuck? I feel like that's been a saying lately. Who said that? Formal. I was like, what's that?
Starting point is 00:05:44 the fuck he was like no set this podcast up like it was like it wasn't a different side of formal but it's like bro can we do this fucking podcast am i just supposed to sit here for an hour and a half james was like bro it's at two he was like bro let's set up this james was kind of piss had to run around fucking find the camera here there set up the pod all by himself he'll get used to formal raging and just let it let it go james i feel like he holds not grudges against people, but I feel like he walks around with like a chip on his shoulder against some people.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Like now he probably has a chip against formal. You think so? No, no. He was like, oh no, the one time he taught, he said that about some other people too. He's like, one time he just said this to me and I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:32 I saw two shes about, about people. Really? He's like, he'll, but he'll say it like, we were doing the, the spectra divide thing.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And he looked at me and he was like, you know, I've walked by, uh, I've walked by dashy like, eight or nine times. He hasn't looked at me yet. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah, he has said some shit. He was like, Shalti followed me today on Twitter after, or on, on Instagram, which kind of pissed me off. Bro, I wish Tush live too, man. Bro, two should move here,
Starting point is 00:06:59 but. I don't know why he wanted. People just don't like living here. Well, he's in Austin. That's a great city. Also, people like that who come in once in a while, Dashie's in here every day.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Formal's in here so much. It's like he doesn't need to, like say like yeah you kind of get comfortable and it's like you can't take it personally yeah you kind of get comfortable and then tush I guess if you're not in here often you kind of come in here and you're like hey everyone
Starting point is 00:07:27 but they're just like if they even say anything at all yeah so what does it been like splitting time how's fucking L.A. It's good well I'm trying to fly home tonight and I got a weather advisory thing so that I don't miss like traveling
Starting point is 00:07:45 here is fine it's not that bad but it's like it my schedule always gets messed up because snow tornadoes but it's not bad but every day my siblings are like when are you coming home when are you coming home really how much more fun do you have now
Starting point is 00:08:02 complaining about that because I'm kind of like jealous Blake told me that you hit him up and we're like let's go on a vacation I'm trying to figure it out we're trying to we're figuring it out now me and a buddy of mine and then who Blake no I'm a Send him an invite if you, yo,
Starting point is 00:08:16 these are the dates if you want to come here getting an Airbnb, Mexico. I feel like as long as it's like three months out, it's possible. Oh, it's end of this month.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Oh. Is that not going to be possible for Blake's schedule? I mean, maybe. Why did you move, Paige? Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:34 I was always, I didn't really have a plan. I don't want your PR answer. No, I never, when I moved here, I wasn't like, I'm going to be here
Starting point is 00:08:43 for five years. And it kind of just felt like the right time to go back. I wasn't homesick, but I was just kind of like over my base being here, if that made sense. To be honest, I can't believe you lasted as long. That's what Hex said. Hex is like, it's been, I'm surprised you were here this long. You're such a family best friend person. Like your best friends have flown here.
Starting point is 00:09:10 You've flown back to the, you've flown to them. Yeah. fucking your family your mom your dad Blake brother's sister Everyone comes here and visits you go visit them It's such like a I guess a dynamic that I don't do it all And I don't know why that is really
Starting point is 00:09:28 Because I kind of once I moved out I was like damn And I didn't think it was gonna be like that Like when Hitch whenever you moved out Did you think like And I know you you visit home more than me And still see some of your hometown friends but did you think when you moved out that it was just like you probably told yourself
Starting point is 00:09:48 I'm a visit a few times a year y'all come visit me no I was out oh yeah I was out I knew I was gonna go visit my mom but that other than my mom like I mean and at the time honestly at the time I I was yeah actually I was just out because like I didn't know if Blake and because Blake George and I had stopped playing um so I didn't I wasn't like George was working and Blake was going to school, so I didn't, I thought they were going to, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:16 just do their own thing. So I knew I was always going to be friends with them, but like I didn't know that was going to ever happen. And then, you know, Blake and I stayed in contact that whole time. And then we started playing video games again with George and then TSD happened.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So, but like I was always going to keep up with Brandon and I was always going to keep up with my mom. But other than that, like, who was your best friend? Oh, Brandon. Brandon.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Brandon. Yeah. Really? Brandon. Yeah. I'm actually seeing him this this weekend Was that like your college best friend? No, high school
Starting point is 00:10:47 You met him Yeah, I met him Yeah, it was cool Yeah Brandon and I like did everything together In high school like Like that was my Duo shit That was my guy in high school for sure
Starting point is 00:10:58 Did Blake and George And I go to high school with you? No, they did Like we were all in the same soccer teams No, they weren't losers NARPs They just Blake just Blake played Cod
Starting point is 00:11:10 and I played cod So we played cod together Brandon didn't play Brandon never played video games So like during the day We would like Brandon and I would just hang out And like we were all in the same soccer team And at night I would play cod
Starting point is 00:11:24 And then that's how I met George So When you started playing with them Were you like What the fuck you guys are like Did you think you were the best And then you started playing Cod?
Starting point is 00:11:34 You meet them No no no They had already been playing Cod for years By the time I got By that time I got the 360. Oh, really? So, like, I was always, like, to scrub.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Yeah. I guess I still am. But that's, that's just, they, they, they, they, they took it way serious, way more serious than I did, which is not a shock. When you met them, were they already, like, semi-competitive? Because they're actually, like, for people that you know from your hometown to, like, for George to win a 1v1 versus Bezzi. Yeah. In, like, a tournament and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Like, you don't find that in your fucking hometown. Don't get it. fucking twisted. They were good, but like... At an event, they get slammed. But like, I... But like, without TST, without them playing fucking eight hours a day, like, they wouldn't have been, like, I don't think George is winning that one-v-one against Obiezy in 2010. Right. Like, but, but, like, we got pretty damn good. Like, we play, because, like, TST went full time in Black Ops 4 and then Model Warfare 2019, and then we played a shit ton of model warfare too
Starting point is 00:12:41 like when I first joined Optic like we got infinitely better those days but Blake and Jersey were always like really good yeah I just I always fantasized about finding like a local that was that like was good as fuck and could be like my duo
Starting point is 00:12:57 that was it was like the cool thing to do is find someone like in your local area who could who was like just as good or better than you I do have so much fomo about these kinds of conversations. And not being a part of any of them anymore?
Starting point is 00:13:13 Well, no, no, no. Like, when you guys talk about, like, playing and, like. Oh, you wish you experienced that? Yeah, that's like the one thing that actually kind of like pisses me off is because I wish that like, I mean, I don't look back of my growing up and be like, I wish I was sat inside and played cod. I wish I didn't play volleyball. But I wish that I did something to where like I can relate.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Well, I feel like you do. that I get what you're saying but I feel like you do that in real life yeah well Brandon will be like oh my IRLs are coming into town and I'm like you're what my IRLs and I'm like your friends friends that he knew from the real world my I I feel like you do have that with your sister's brother it's not like it's not video games you know yeah yeah but I think it's your Jersey's retired game Is your jersey still retired? Well, yes, but it's not hanging anymore.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Damn! What does that mean? I don't know. They didn't even tell me, because I would have wanted, like, the, I would have wanted it. What does that mean? They just took it down. Her volleyball jerseys retired at her high school. But I think we got, like, a new, and I have no idea because I was not told, but I think we got, like, a new athletic director, and they didn't want that up anymore?
Starting point is 00:14:33 I don't know. Why was your jersey up? She was godlike at volleyball. Because people thought I was good. Oh, God. Were you good? She was so good. She was so good at volleyball that they held her. Or was the team good?
Starting point is 00:14:46 I mean, the team probably was good because you're just hard-carry. Yeah, I mean, we were good for... Did you go pro? Could you have gone pro? No, I didn't want to. I played in college. But you could have.
Starting point is 00:14:58 No. Did you start in college? Sure, I could be in like some town in Italy. Yeah. Like where... Some Euro league. Making like... 30K?
Starting point is 00:15:08 $1,300. A month, maybe. Anyway. Were you actually that good? And I say it. Let me say this before you answer. I thought when I was playing basketball in like middle school and high school, I was like, I'm pretty fucking good. But then the older I get, you start seeing like highlights on YouTube of other high schools and D1 athletes.
Starting point is 00:15:33 What a real D1 athlete looks like, moves like, shoots like. And I was like, and now I'm just like, wow. I was actually horrible at basketball. I was good. I was recruited as an outside hitter for volleyball, which no one's probably going to understand. But now you guys are in my shoes when you guys talk about other video games. We have no idea what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Like I remember my first game, we were playing Duke. And my coach was like, you got to play Libero. And I'm like, what? I've never played Libero in my life, which it's just a different position. And I was like, okay, change the jersey. And then I never went back to outside hitter. I just stayed Libero. Y'all played Duke.
Starting point is 00:16:10 LaBaro is the one with the different. Yeah, you could go in and out of the game at all times. So basically I was just... And this is your freshman year? Yeah, I was always on... So she was nuts. I was always on defense, basically. You're playing Duke your freshman year
Starting point is 00:16:22 and you're the hardest position? Well, no, that's... One could art... It's tough to say what the hardest position of volleyball is. You said you were... But I was expected to get every first touch. So, like, when the ball came over the net, if I could get it,
Starting point is 00:16:38 I should get it unless it went like directly to you, you know? Yeah, and I guess that's the thing with every team. Like there's always someone on the team like if you can get it, you get it. So you had to dive and. Oh yeah, my legs were like always cut. Damn, you were that good. I mean, I wasn't that good. I mean, but I hear.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I didn't win like a national championship. Was it considered? I like to say I had heart. I had heart. That's such a page thing. Were you, what were you considered like D1? Yeah, I played division one A lot of people don't believe that
Starting point is 00:17:12 They're like, oh, you're D3 And I'm like, no, D1 Yeah, so how hard I get in soccer? Is that? No, I'm not... 11th grade. No, I was the captain of my varsity team, but like I didn't, I mean,
Starting point is 00:17:26 I think I got one, maybe one offer from a D1 school. I can't even remember now. I got one offer from a D1 school, like... I'm pretty sure I did. I can't remember. It wasn't fucking Duke. I would have been a cop or not.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Chad, is that cap or not? But I definitely did get a bunch of offers for D2, but I just didn't want to, I chased a girl to fucking, also I was over soccer at the time. Mm-hmm. Just gaming. No, not gaming. I didn't have an Xbox at the time.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I had sold my Xbox because my ex-girlfriend found out, found my gaming Twitter, saw that I followed Optic Midnight and was like, are you cheating on me? Really? With gamer girls. And I was like, she's a lesbian. But I didn't, but like, is that a true story? This is 100% of true story. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:18:09 My ex found my gaming Twitter saw that I had tweeted to midnight and was like, you're hitting up other girls on your fake gamer Twitter that you have a whole life you're not telling me about and, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:24 I think you're cheating on me with gamer girls. And I couldn't be like, so I just, instead of, instead of, you know, I just like sold my Xbox and everything. And then, but I was still playing, soccer and then uh but i was over soccer because dude in high school you have to compete on two
Starting point is 00:18:42 different teams i was competing on two different teams i had practice every fucking day on two different teams so i was over it yeah um so i never even like pursued it but that being said i was not that i was good for high school but i was i would honestly i was better than a lot of the the kids that were on my college soccer team too because i remember looking at them and i was like you know that you're not really like that but maybe I for sure could have been on the college team for sure what and putting in work I don't I don't know if I would have started but I for sure could have been on the team I wish we could do like a not every week but like once a month like a a basketball game with everybody
Starting point is 00:19:24 or like intermereals something something like flag would even be down to play volleyball volleyball but you guys just can't commit to anything that is so true Well, there's four people. I think me, hex, maybe a hitch and a James Sellers. Those are the, that will actually show up somewhere and be willing to play. Like Seth, it'll be like, yeah, I'm down. Like, he'll hear it. We'll propose the idea of like Thursday at this time.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Thursday, 7 p.m. He'll be like, yeah, I'm down. Then that time will come around and he'll be like, no, I'm going to, is has to stream in late. Matt, what happened in our lives? You have a mic, right? What happened in our lives where we ended up kicking a soccer ball across the street and you were in jeans? What?
Starting point is 00:20:11 How did I remember it happening? But how did we get to that point? I don't even know how we got over there. Bro, it's like the middle of summer. It's like the middle of summer. And Matt Craig and I are across the street at Toyota Stadium kicking a soccer ball. Just you two? Yeah, just the two of us.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Should I answer this? We should spam call. yeah sure hello hello hello is it on speaker fuck you that was one speaker that was the IRS
Starting point is 00:20:50 probably probably bro I ignore those calls all the time just because I'm like it would be fun to do like a retreat do you say we should do that more
Starting point is 00:21:02 yeah I think we should do that more too wait do what more just go get a soccer ball I think what happened was I did ask you may have like had it here that I hadn't seen a soccer ball in 10 years I was like dude we should we should go kick the soccer ball
Starting point is 00:21:15 That's fun And then we went around And kicked the soccer ball around And we got very very hot Very sweaty and then we came back over here Well that's like I told you and Lex yesterday That when I lived here I would be like overseen all you guys
Starting point is 00:21:30 And I didn't have any like friends or family Not in a negative way But I'm like I just want to go do something And I would just go to a park and play basketball by myself Yeah really? Lex even yeah nobody knew that And Lex even texted me after him. She was like, I'm so sorry you had to do that.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I didn't know. And I'm like, no, it was like, it was fine. It was just fun doing something like that. Alexis sat here on the fly cast and lied for an hour and said she doesn't have social anxiety. But she always is like, I should text page. When you lived here, she said that probably once every other day. But I also feel like because once you go back, like she has a lot going on. It's like.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Yeah. As we get older, it's like. you don't want to do anything that but but I don't think she was like she wasn't like oh I feel bad for page because she was had to play basketball by herself she was like oh this whole time I'm thinking
Starting point is 00:22:22 Paige is too busy to hang out with me and she's fucking shooting hoops by herself like we could have shot hoops together that would be a sight to see imagine you're just driving by you can come shoot but you have to stay in your costume imagine it's just a demon out there shooting
Starting point is 00:22:37 very poorly shooting It's like Alice in Wonderland Have you ever seen her shoot? No, she's not a... She could throw a baseball, but she would... I don't think she could shoot a basketball. Yeah, we got to do something. Some athletic as a group.
Starting point is 00:22:52 It would be fun if we all... We need more group activities outside of fucking dinners. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dinners are... Hex, long, I hate dinners. I hate... Oh, my God. Am I the only one that despises the... No, I hate dinners.
Starting point is 00:23:05 All right. I hate... Wait, but dinner is longer than 50. 50 minutes and it's more than four people, I don't really want to go. Okay. I hate what I hate about the dinners, not just the entire dinner itself. What I specifically hate about the dinners is the, this is kind of fucked up to say because like, Hex will take us out. Sometimes it'll be Hex and scump.
Starting point is 00:23:29 That's nice. They'll split the bill. They pay for it all. So it is a nice gesture. I do appreciate it. Sometimes I don't be getting invites, but that's for a different pod. but the type of eating that they do is like family style where we'll all sit down and it's not like okay I'm gonna start off with this it's hex grabs the menu all right we're gonna take two of these
Starting point is 00:23:52 two of these and four in three of these and then you think like okay like that's like there's just the first round but then like 10 15 minutes later the first round comes you each get two things you get one piece of nighiri one piece of fucking and you still want more something else then it's just like oh I'm starving I'm more hungry now yeah and then it's like the waiter's got to come take all the plates we're talking and then he has to do another order yeah and then we've been there an hour and a half and it sounds like I'm complaining but that kind of restaurant is good with four people yeah like no boo or catch because it's like a small you just have to keep ordering and it's like
Starting point is 00:24:37 I just I want my fat meal in front of me with like a Caesar salad fat meal maybe a dessert my Diet Coke and that's what I This is mine yeah I don't want One little piece of sushi And then a piece of fucking
Starting point is 00:24:54 Octopus eye eyeballs and then Wait 10 more minutes for more food I like eating with the cod team Specifically Shotsy because we just We'll go eat He inhales whatever is in front of him, it takes him like five minutes to finish his meal.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And then they're like, can we go? And I'm like, yes, please go. Because then I'm going to go soon after. Any other players, like, if you eat, you eat and you leave. Yeah. It's not like a, well, I think everyone else is just getting old. And like a dinner now is like going out. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Like back at, when did we ever do? I remember I think maybe two dinners in between 60, 50, 50 and, scuff house. Dude, do we even do that? I remember one, but I'm figuring there has to be another.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Like maybe some Mago lunches, but that doesn't like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we were at a mogo. I think we went to BJs one time. Ooh, BJs is so good.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I don't remember that. I don't remember that at all. I think we went there one time. No, it's what I said. But I'm saying like their menu is so The menu's huge I tried to let it go I'd have to cut it
Starting point is 00:26:08 Because you said it And like Hitch was talking and I just go That's the name No that's the intro I'm getting red No but I do My friends in L.A We're starting this thing
Starting point is 00:26:24 Once a month We're going to go to a restaurant But like once a month Not like once a week We're going to try like a different restaurant And that's going to be like our going out But what you're saying saying is you'd rather just shoot hoops.
Starting point is 00:26:36 No. I'd rather do activities as a group that doesn't just involve dinner. Because sometimes the music's so loud. You can't hear each other. It's packed because we're in the most popular places in Dallas. I love a circle table because then it's everyone can talk. Yeah. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:54 We don't really do any activities besides eat, stream and record. It'd be fun to like go to Montana or something and like everyone in optic you can bring like a plus one or like your two friends and we can just like do like a beer olympics one day flag football and then someone can be like four people can be in charge of the first dinner like I don't know it that kind of thing just just sounds so much fun and we can it doesn't always have to be content like we can put our
Starting point is 00:27:30 own money together like who who's at the top of salary wash you pay the most and they would just trickle down from there rent a fucking bus or something rent two RVs road trip eight hours away to fucking the hashtag could be what RV doing See we already
Starting point is 00:27:49 What RV did? Matt are you writing this down I really want to go to Utah He got excited here like the Zion National Park if that's the thing Yeah just go there Day drink a little bit I don't know what you said Beer Olympics or something next day flag football. I don't know how we'd figure it out, but so there's something to do.
Starting point is 00:28:08 But people are just so. Careful, because you are the people. You are talking about yourself. Well, I'm a lesser version of it, but people in Optic, they're so, they don't, I don't think people get enjoyment. The enjoyment you would get outside of streaming and making money and getting likes and shit like that, the enjoyment they would get. from like doing a beer Olympics and traveling in an RV eight hours and like kind of doing something else but it's like kind of off the grid and it's not really being recorded or posted about they get so much more fulfillment and dope being on a sub train getting the first nuke with
Starting point is 00:28:50 the kilo um having 28,000 live viewers playing with meal team six demolishing TST like they're so we spanked them last night just waiting you know that for one it was not even close and what? Because I saw a series you lost. Because they were saying they won. We, no, it wasn't even close. How did you beat them? We loaded up five games and beat them four out of the five games.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Oh, all they won was Blackop Six? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we played them in Black Up Six after to make them feel better because they brined that game. Wait, you beat them and everything and then it was like, all right, we'll play Blackop Six. They were like, yeah, sure. We already demolish you. I'm not going to play. know now. Oh, because that's when I tuned
Starting point is 00:29:35 in is when they won Blackop Six. Oh, yeah, yeah. Then I was just like, I didn't really know. We haven't played Black Off Six in months. We haven't played Apex for... And they are a literal team grinding every single day. And we still went round 11 with them first map. It's embarrassing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah, but yeah. So people in Optic, whether it's the pros, I'm not really, I feel like I've gotten old enough to where I just don't. I'm just at a point where I don't and I've said this 100 times out of the fucking box house. I just don't enjoy games like that.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I do get doped up doing like a watch party or an event or a open qualifier champ Sunday or land qualifier champ Sunday or watching scrimms and like it is cool. Interact with the community. Boom, maybe go on a sub train. We get a little dope. But as far as playing, I'm just not genuinely just not interested. Something happened to my brain and it's not fixed yet because I just can't lock in at all. So I would love to just do other stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:38 The only person I even get to hang out with these days is like James. Because he's like the only one willing to. He's because you guys run together. And we're in Dallas and, yeah, we'll run together. Talk about chicks. Maybe go out. Talk about like fucking hot chicks and shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:55 All the time. Yeah. But I don't know. I would love to. I just don't think anyone else enough. Well, it makes sense. everyone's making a living, making money. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:31:07 But the amount they make, if we plan something six. The amount they make. The amount they make, I'd probably do the same. Because the amount I make. You're in a good spot. I am in a good spot.
Starting point is 00:31:20 You have the potential. The door is wide open for you. You could bust right on it or right through it if you wanted to. Just go right through that door. What's step one? What are you laughing? You keep saying door and Nick's like I don't know where the door. I don't know where the door is.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Just bust on it. So the door is called Halo and you got a lot of, you literally just do, just go right through it. Yep. And then boom, Baylor pod. Halo pod. Fucking mean APG. At the event. Watch parties.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Watch party. You get on, you, you play custom eights or you play ranked for a little bit until scrims. Then you hop on and watch scrims. Yeah. Then it's pretty much been my, I've found my footing, I think. You go? And in the past few weeks.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Maybe you, maybe you, you queue up ranked with, with Hitch, duos. See how far we can get. Could try. We could try. We could, we hit onyx easily. Oh, okay. So I would just, I don't know. I was about to say I would just carry to onics, but I played one day.
Starting point is 00:32:29 So like everything reset and I just played my, um, placement matches. And I got like diamonds five or six or whatever. And then I'm trying to win more games just to get the onyx real quick. And my teammates are so bad, but also I'm not doing that good either. And I'm like, am I this far down? What the fuck? Am I legit diamond six player?
Starting point is 00:32:52 But no, after, if I played a little bit, I'd, we'd hit onyx easy. But I mean, that's sort of the direction I'm going into with some Halo shit. I had someone asked me on stream, Maniac, why don't you do interviews at the event? No, you should. Yeah, you definitely should. And I was like, eh, I don't want to do that. And they were like, why not?
Starting point is 00:33:13 I was just, and I was like, I just don't want to. Wait, like that, like, like your blaze? Going up to them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't people sit down. Have people. Yeah. Well, that's what I was explaining.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I was like, I'm down for people to come sit down on the watch party and chat, but as far as having a microphone, a camera guy following me, and going like that, like, that is not my thing. And that's like a talent. People don't realize how, like, talented, like a guy blazes or... It doesn't have to be that, like, polished. Yeah, it doesn't have to be that polished. You can walk around and just ask stuff backstage.
Starting point is 00:33:49 It just gives me anxiety. But, like, if they come to my watch party, they sit down, it's more of a casual conversation. I don't want to have pre-shit in my head that I have to, like, okay, what is? This one I'm going to say to this person. Yeah. I don't want to walk up. And they're like, dude, you never take these opportunities presented in you, presented for you or something like that.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Like, these are good opportunities for you. I'm just like, who's saying that to you? Just people. We're just, my chat just talking. But I was explaining to them, like, I don't want to do that specifically. I feel like there's a specific skill set for that. And I don't think, I mean, I'm sure I could maybe eventually do it, but that's just not where I'm at right now.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I want to do, I'll do my watch parties. They can, we'll have two extra chairs. They can come sit down. Sort of, I don't want to interview. I want like a casual, yo, what's up, man? How'd the match go? Did it go how you think? Like, what are you and this fucking snakebite sitting down?
Starting point is 00:34:49 Like, start talking about, I don't know, fucking God knows what. Him and Lucid. Like, how do you guys feel about, you know, it seems like everyone's coming after SSG because you guys aren't placing top one, top two, and these. just little fucking convos like that I feel like you can have in a watch party which is my kind of conversation instead of like asking them
Starting point is 00:35:08 who do you think's gonna win this event uh I don't know I just I feel like I would freeze on camera just fuck up so I don't want to do it You should just try it on day one and even if it sucks just like
Starting point is 00:35:23 clip all your I'm not gonna do it anyway I'm gonna the whole weekend I'm gonna be watch party I think you should try it I think you should just do the watch party shit I did do watch party with open chairs and then just have it a thing where like people like coming.
Starting point is 00:35:35 There's probably some personalities in Halo that like people don't really know about. Yeah. There's. Yeah. There's some pro players. There's some like onset. Bravo. Bring in the clutch on. If you guys could go to dinner. If you guys can go to dinner with like
Starting point is 00:35:51 three people dead or alive, who would it be? I know we talked about how much we hate dinners, but I actually think about this question a lot and I don't really know. Family-style dinner You, it's you Joe Rogan
Starting point is 00:36:06 Oh, that's a good one I'm going me, Morgan Wallin And then I don't know I've thought about this before I feel like you gotta pick Jesus I wouldn't I mean I got three people
Starting point is 00:36:27 I'm not picking Jesus I feel like I've I feel like I know him already Yeah I can cop out No I don't regret me saying that at all. That wouldn't. I don't know if I could invite Jesus.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Joe Rogan. It would be hard to have Joe Rogan and Jesus because like that would be the perfect pod. You think so? Flycast, me Joe Rogan and Jesus. But like Joe Rogan would definitely curse in front of Jesus. That's okay. The Jesus would forgive.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Okay. Maybe you're right. Be forgetting that about him. He won't judge. Me, Joe Rogan, Jesus and. I think. I think I would do Morgan Wall and Kobe Bryant Drake is good
Starting point is 00:37:13 Jake Joe Rogan Jesus and Drake that would be that would be good Blunt rotation Nah probably not even Drake Cause like I don't Nah after the Nate shot story He's a good rapper but
Starting point is 00:37:26 After the Nate shot story about Drake I've been I've been like scared to meet somebody that like famous What happened with him? Oh I would fucking fumble Nade said Nate Nate told the story on Apex's pod Of like he got involved Or he he
Starting point is 00:37:41 Drake was an investor in 100 thieves at the beginning. And so he got set up on this like business, I guess meeting thing with Drake. And basically just to meet Drake. And he was talking to him about 100 thieves. And he was like, I just kept talking. And I was telling myself to stop talking. But I couldn't stop talking. And the whole time he's not looking at me.
Starting point is 00:38:05 He's looking at the basketball court that they're next to because he wants to make sure that he gets in on the next game. And I was like, oh, I don't want to meet somebody that famous. I don't think it's a bad thing to over talk. I think it's awkward when you don't. And there's just like silence. Yeah. I would be shitting my pants if I met someone of that. And it's almost like, would I though?
Starting point is 00:38:34 I mean, maybe Drake. It depends if I. We met Post Malone and it was completely fine. But he made it so easy to be. A deliner. Well, and you were... Well, Selena's different because that's her... Well, and you were playing beer pong.
Starting point is 00:38:49 And also with Selena, we were at a... We were at a fun place with nice guy. It's not like we were in... But if I pulled up and Drake's at a dinner with Drake's friends... That's also... There was some of our friends, too, but... But the people that are there as well are also important because then they make everything comfortable.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. It's not like it's just you and Drake. I think what made it comfortable is we walked in, Selena stands up to, like, greet us. but she greeted us as page's friends it's a lot different than meeting yeah it's just like a cold like a cold
Starting point is 00:39:20 Selena Gomez at a dinner hey my friends are coming through like sometimes like you'll walk into a place and like say you're walking into a dinner later or something they'll just be like hey what's up how you doing oh hi nice to meet you nice and then they just like go back
Starting point is 00:39:33 to their conversations but it was kind of just like we walked in stands up greets all of us her and like Ana they had in Teresa they had FOMO because or I think Teresa did come to the Pine Park thing but they weren't able to and then so it was excited it's just a time and place it's fun night that was a fun night you you accidentally slept on the couch yep the nice couch and we forgot about you yeah I can't believe that I can't believe they like
Starting point is 00:40:02 because that can't happen off no the other day I well this was like probably like six months ago we don't know is on Selena Gomez's couch this could go bad no but the other day I I'm not used to driving. Wake up and it's this. This was a while ago, but I was driving into her neighborhood and I, there's two gates that kind of look very similar. Don't say too much detail. Yeah, and I'm not going to say who her neighbor is, but everyone would know who her neighbor
Starting point is 00:40:30 is if I said his name, yeah. Wait, can we cut it? No, no, no. And so I'll tell you guys after. So we were going, I'm driving and I'm like, oh, the garage, the gates open. I drive up. And as I'm driving up, I'm like, I know I haven't been here in a while, but this is not the right house. And I, like, pull up and it almost looks like just like a huge white house with like all black escalades in front.
Starting point is 00:40:53 And I'm like, this is not her house. And then I know whose house it is. So I start to get scared because I'm like, I'm sorry. I'm not meaning. And I just turn around and go right back down. And I'm like, I'm like, that security. They let their gate open? I just, I could have made it.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I could have drove right into the front door. Holy shit. Yeah, tell us after who's Is that who you're saying? That was her neighbor. Like you just pulled into the wrong driveway or whatever. And then I finally went to her house and her security was like, yeah, that happens all the time. And I'm like insane.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, I was, I mean, I wasn't scared. I woke up hammered. We had a long day in Anaheim. Wait, so how happy are you that she's found love? We haven't really talked about it. No, I mean, so happy. But it's great. That's it.
Starting point is 00:41:39 That's it. That's all we're doing. Okay. How happy am I that she found love? Very happy. Because like, I see it everywhere now. I see the two of them are doing fucking press tours together. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm wondering how Paige feels.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah, I thought they would kind of be low key with it. But they are. No, they put it. It seems like they put out a single and it went fucking crazy. It's so cool because they did that whole album like in their house, which I think is so cool. Because it's not like, it was like a passion. I actually. There's a studio in her.
Starting point is 00:42:10 There's a studio in her house, right? Like a little studio? Yeah. Yeah, I accidentally walked through it. That's not where they did it, though. I want to visit. I accidentally walked through it. Wait, you haven't said who your dinner is.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Jesus. God, why? Is yours Jesus too? Jesus? Honestly, I was thinking between Jesus and Judas because I want to, like, make Judas feel guilty. Okay. I'm very surprised that that's both of your guest.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Probably Jesus. It has to be Jesus. Jesus. The fucking world revolves around him. Gotta know his thoughts. Or maybe John. Jesus' best friend. Because I want to know, like, if he was jealous at all, like, you know, the ins and outs of, like, what it was like. But, and then probably, probably, like.
Starting point is 00:42:58 So who, Jesus? Yeah. And then Babe Ruth, maybe. Oh, that's a good one. How easy was it, hitting those home runs? Yeah. Like, are you racist? Ask Jesus, if you should be.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And then... I'm so surprised you said Babe Ruth. Same. You can't even stay two winnings at a baseball game. Can't even spell Babe Ruth. You can't even spell baseball. Jimmy Hendricks, probably. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, I don't know who my third would be. Joe Rogan. Jesus and... Someone from... Mine would be, like, current. Like, I would want, like, Ellen Pompeo. the lead on Grey's Anatomy. I know who that is.
Starting point is 00:43:41 But like probably in two years I wouldn't. I just, I love her. I wish she was like my aunt. Mm. That'd be someone. It's such a, Morgan, Kobe. Wait, what was yours? Morgan Wallin, some actor from Grace Anatomy and who?
Starting point is 00:43:55 Oh, yeah. No, but Jesus was weird. And Kobe. Yeah. Who's Kobe? Kobe Bryant. Oh. Kobe Bryant?
Starting point is 00:44:03 I was thinking like C-O-B-Y. Who's Kobe? What fuck's Kobe? Cube. that's a decent Matt was who's your dinner uh fucking I like Joe that'd be a good one Joe Rogan Joe would be good
Starting point is 00:44:20 keep the combo going because I won't say a fucking word that's true yeah he'd be yeah yeah Matt Craigner be shit in his pants yeah probably like uh you got it you need me or Joe Joe Joe maniac yeah and then Nick and then like uh I get two of these fuck no I get two dinners Probably like
Starting point is 00:44:38 Pastrana Okay Pastrana that'd be cool Who's that It's like what you put on a sandwich Yep Exactly Is that a baseball player
Starting point is 00:44:50 Is that a baseball player? No he's First guy to do a double back Up on a dirt bike Travis Pistrama Yeah Pistrana Yeah Pistrana
Starting point is 00:44:59 Pishani Pishami Pist yeah And then So is that it? Wait, do I get one more Oh because you pick NIC Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:07 because Nick's No, that's good. Yeah, that's good. Two dinners for me. Thank you. Nick bailed. Nick bales. Nick bales?
Starting point is 00:45:15 He's like, Roger? Could Roger go? I feel like I don't have a good, I don't have another good one. Yeah, Nick is just too perfect of a third. I get it. If Nick Bails, we just cancel the whole thing. I get you. Yeah, just we'll go.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Well, can I, can I rain check? Joe and Trave? Can I rain check? Okay, we'll go. Where does Joe film his podcast? Austin. I mean, I don't know. Oh, is that like a known thing?
Starting point is 00:45:42 Yeah, I don't know. So all his guests have to go to, or they get to go to Austin? I think so, yeah. I think he might pay for him, but I mean, like, I'm sure. Yeah, sure. Regardless, figure it the fuck out and get on that podcast. Yeah. I'm waiting on someone we know to get on it.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Who would be the first? Wait. No one. Wait, is this? Can we talk about this? Ninja was like probably the closest. Kai maybe I could see Kai
Starting point is 00:46:09 What else is happening What is the last time you guys cried I think I cried the other day I cried the other day thinking about I was like man I haven't seen my mom in so long And then I like didn't know when But that's just like weird like a Tuesday night I'm pretty sure I cried this week
Starting point is 00:46:29 I cry a lot possibly last night I've cried a few times He's like, I have the flycast tomorrow. I have to do a new podcast. You know what it actually is? And I've cried a few times this night, this week. Nighttime. My algorithm just turns into like these.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I wish I could play it on my phone. Is it what you posted today? No. It'll turn. It's always about relationships and. I did. I stayed with. my mom for a while when I first moved out moves and she would I would like walk behind her as
Starting point is 00:47:10 she's viewing your story and she's like god it's stories sometimes she's like I just don't get them what about my stories does she not get it's like you complaining you you you're an animal ruining a furniture again oh this is wait can I um if I text you this Matt can you bring it up on yeah take a second Your, but my, your algorithm. My algo is basically sad relationship, but happy. And we got to experience this, but maybe it's time to move on. And was she the one?
Starting point is 00:47:56 And you moved on. Did you move on too quickly? Yeah, why did it have been rekindled if both of you dropped your egos? and so like quite literally well that makes sense it hit home yeah every single once I see one and I'll watch the entire like minute and a half
Starting point is 00:48:16 and I'll scroll it's another one just like that that happens to me with like twerking usually is this is it? This is it you were how did you come across can't hear it this was I could have made the effort to support you
Starting point is 00:48:35 the way you always supported me I'm gonna cry who's what I'd be more careful with you know what the Enkiridian can wait let's go check out some petroglyphs really you do that for me oh petrachov oh because he's but wait this isn't how it happened No, we made our choices.
Starting point is 00:49:21 We could have made better ones, but I don't have any regrets. You were a wonderful experience. You were everything. Where are you going? Cut it. How did you come across this? Was this on TikTok? It's just on TikTok or Instagram or some of them.
Starting point is 00:49:55 But yeah, shit like that. What is that? But that's like every rom-com. But like with cartoons Yeah But I mean it's not always like these weird cartoons It'll just be
Starting point is 00:50:07 But it seems like a certain time at night My Algo hits that And I'll just sit there and watch And I'll just start crying I've been crying multiple times So wait hold on you've you haven't updated We've been getting weekly updates page About Nick
Starting point is 00:50:22 Where are we at? Listen man I don't It's not looking good On what? Like his relationship? Yeah. Because it was almost like, I don't really want to talk about it to be honest.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I feel like I've talked about it a few times and somehow like we'll get back to her or someone in my chat will fucking say something. I'm just like, all right, I need to just fucking quit. Okay. Stop talking about it. To answer your question, I've cried a whole fucking lot of the past month.
Starting point is 00:50:55 But like what about? My dog died. Yeah. Well, that's obvious. I didn't ask how many times you've cried over the month. I said, what's the last thing you cried at? Oh, like, literally two nights ago. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I'm recording a video and I have to clear off
Starting point is 00:51:14 fucking space on my computer. And I click on, there was like a unnamed file. I click it. And it's just a full screen video of me, like, setting shit up. And then it's just mace in the background, sleeping, sleeping on the bed. And I was just like, that's tough. Alex is like, are you okay? I'm like, no, I'm not okay.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Like, I already think about stuff like that with Chewy and he just turned two. Is that the dog that you guys found in the trash chute? Yeah. So I have Chewy, she has Charlie. It's a really cute dog. Our old dog Milo died. And that was, like, that was,
Starting point is 00:51:51 that was her, like, sole dog. But, like, I grew very close to it because it was one of those dogs that, like, didn't fuck with many people and didn't fuck with other dogs. Yeah. But I like dogs. like that but loved me and her and i don't know just grew close to it and then it was only five
Starting point is 00:52:07 myel was only five and fucking then got cancer and it was so random happened so fast and it was just had to put him literally holding him as we're putting him down like yeah so sad and then like now i look at chewy and i was even asked the other day like do you think you love chewy or junior more i was like i think i love chewy more junior is my cat who i've had for 2018, seven years, 20 years. 20, so for like seven years or something. So like even juniors getting old. Fucking.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Really puts things into perspective. Yeah, I look at Chewy now and I'm like, God, I feel so bad. I feel like you're not living your best life. He'll just have a fucking sad little mopey head on looking out the window. He doesn't have the life he said. He doesn't have his sister, Charlie, to play with. anymore and like distract him like just feel so bad man
Starting point is 00:53:05 and then I just think about the future of like not having him and it's like I'm gonna have to go through this experience one time with him and he's just the best fucking dog it's just it's the fucking worst and like talk to my mom last night
Starting point is 00:53:24 and she's getting old and it's just like you just start you just fucking imagine the worst are you guys gonna go home for mothers day? When's Mother's Day? It's in May. I don't really know exactly what it's a Sunday. It would be so much more fun for the both of us. Has your mom ever visited here? Oh, that would be
Starting point is 00:53:43 fine. I come from a place where people don't fly, people don't travel, people don't do nothing. I know, yeah. I know. Well, it is... My mom has started traveling. But I'm like, oh, shit. That's nice. Mother's Day's May 11th. Yeah. I mean, I'm more than willing to get her up here. Probably, yeah, that would be fun to, like, show her around here and your new apartment.
Starting point is 00:54:05 But I go down there and it's just like, it's a three plus hour flight. I land. I have to go rent a car. Then I drive an hour and a half to where we live. Then we're like, we're just. You should just plan ahead and, like, rent like a cool car. So, like, you're looking forward to it. It's just so much more expensive, though.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Yeah. But just get there. Like, I don't really have a computer. Or anything. So we get there, we talk, we catch up. I'll spend all evening all night, like hanging out on the couch. And then boom, up to the, up to the creepy room that I'm now sleeping. She should just come to you.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Yeah. She wants to. But there's always shit going on. She still works doing a fostering cats. And I think she works at like the SPCA or whatever it's called. because I don't know she doesn't really can't just pick any day to travel
Starting point is 00:55:03 but yeah I would I would love to figure it out because it's just the older I get man just start seeing these fucking TikToks and they just start reminding you the time is just stop bro I watched a video we should make a TikTok after this
Starting point is 00:55:17 I have a lot of tape that I think would be fun sure that can be our social content yeah no Joey would love that person I love TikTok scroll everyone right now should go scroll through pages TikTok yes it is I just love the tic tucks where you like it is the most random TikTok page well no but it's just just fun I don't no do not do not go there but I just like um I just like looking back and like laughing yeah it is
Starting point is 00:55:45 it is it is very interesting you guys should definitely definitely check it out that's not what I don't um I actually have to go play Verdansk pretty soon with who I have a flight tonight at 8 p.m. So I have to get a stream in before then. I know. I hope our flights don't get delayed. I was kind of hoping to play Verdance with TSC tonight. I don't know if they want to play with me though. No, I'm down to play.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Tonight? Oh, no, I can't play tonight. I have a flight. I just don't, bro, I looked at Twitch this morning. Everyone is on. Dude, I know. I'm like, if I signed on right now, I might have 50 viewers. I'm kind of nervous about ours, too.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I don't. Is it just you three just hopping in? We have like a, we have like a bingo board of shit we're trying to complete. Okay. So like there's at least something,
Starting point is 00:56:39 but dude, there's gonna be. Game drops are awesome for the, for the top and they suck for the middle, for the middle of the pack.
Starting point is 00:56:52 They are amazing for the top. They're amazing. Like I bet you took out. The middle to the bottom, just. It's fucked. What is it? Like Tim,
Starting point is 00:56:59 Tim, Nick Merks and Cloak are playing today? Bro, they probably... All the creators and all the... Probably a lot of the pros are going to play it. Like... Yeah. It still should be fun, though.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Still should be fun. All right. Guess that'll do it. It'll be good on time. Yeah. Right at that time, Rob. Yeah, I do. I'm coming back for our Halo Major.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Tush didn't even know I didn't live here, and I love that. Yeah. He was like, what? Tush also doesn't live here, so. Yeah. And he doesn't know much. But I did. Not all I going through that brain is.
Starting point is 00:57:42 But I did over here that the cod team was screaming yesterday, and Damon heard me, and he was like, she's still here? I'm like, all right, noted. I'm going to leave. And then you booked a flight, and now you're gone. It was hard to much. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you so much for watching.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Thank you so much. Support the stream. Drop a like, a comment, subscribe. Support the stream. Switch that TV says, BTH Maniac Super Chad. Matt Craig,
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