The Flycast - The MVP Curse, Pre-Game Rituals & Thoughts on Champs, EWC | The Flycast Ep. 202

Episode Date: August 3, 2026

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And then Mason after them up, like, I knew exactly what they were doing. And I'm just like, bro, I went there was one day I tweaked on them on a league match. Like, semi-tweaked on him because I'm like, Mason, you're literally by far like the best S&D player, like I fucking, like at least in the league right now,

like that I ever played with. You got a great mind for it. Speak up, you know what I mean? Like, let me know what you're thinking if you knew what they were doing. Because he was, remember that day? Because he was like, I knew exactly what they were doing every round.

And I'm just like, I didn't. I was like, I didn't. I could have used what you knew they were rapping age? I was like, yeah. He's like, I got you. Welcome back to another episode of the Flycast. Episode. 202.

You guys have been 200 of these? Yeah, no. You haven't seen our huge fucking, it's everywhere. It's been the Taka Optic. Yeah, last one was 201. Yeah, we don't. You all haven't watched all 200 of them? I watched.

You missed a few of them. I've definitely watched a few. I was going to say. Have you watched one that you're not in? I don't even I doubt they even watch the one they are in I've seen clips

I'm trying to think who we could have had that y'all would now that one clip was actually there like four more or something yeah whenever you guys

were making like that beat and then you guys like started singing the song I don't know what it was but that show was far oh yeah it was like our intro that show was fire

what was song was it I think we were just I think Nick was I think Nick was what did we do on like a oh well no it was that it was the Sierra song

Automatic super Oh, yeah, yeah, it was that. That's that. I don't know about that. He's too young. No, I know that, son. You do that song? What was the popping song when you were, like, in high school?

I would say that. Jason to Ruhlo. Yeah, actually, now, that was, that was more... That was elementary school? I just wanted to say that. I was about to say, like, that is my high school. High school was Drake, though. That's always Drake.

Canada? High school. I think I know. Friam views? Holy shit. Man, I've had Drake and... Views in high school? What the fuck?

Wait, views shit went crazy, man I feel like that's too late That's too late It's too early to digest I was I was a junior That's not too early That's perfect time

I don't know Just relating to everything Like you don't even have time To be depressed yet That's fair You gotta be like prime depressed To feel views You know what I mean

No you got a little bit Everything with views up to Yeah maybe you do You said different Maybe I'm just projecting A majorly depressed I didn't get the Drake experience in in high school. What do you mean?

I graduated in 2009. Whoa, yeah, you're right. Does that sound crazy, though? I thought you were going to say like 1112. Nine. Sounds crazy. Wait, wait, wait, you graduated 2009? Yeah.

Well, you were you born. 1991. Wow. Yo, you close to the 80s, my guy. I'm telling you's way back there. Way back. We're bordering the 80s. That's, wait.

That's actually typical, though. far back there it's typical as fuck what's typical is I'm still here that's what I'm saying that is typical no like really think about it I retired in 2016 and heyba somehow I retired from bro gaming at 2016 that's fucking psychotic yeah somehow we're still here what's your class uh way after that way later way later It's no year Oh, oh 2011

Yeah, way later Like a decade later Like a decade later Yeah, way later 17 This doesn't fucking Wait,

You graduated 17? Fass of 17 And he's the oldest in the league Like I look at Damn We got to address this actually Because this is gonna piss me off Wait

Why did why did uh Why did Blades call you a 30 year old feet? You know I don't get it Listen bro like I get it oldest player in the league Maybe he's 30 but guess what? I'm literally the same age

as every fucking player in the league, basically. I'm literally just like two months older than like 12 players. Yo, Kyler has played, let's just say, Kyler.

Kyler has played for years. Yeah, Kyler's way longer than you. Kenny, bro, these guys have been playing since 2014. They're like Kenny graduated in 2009 with me. That's actually crazy, bro. I don't understand.

Yeah, I just remember, I remember, I remember asking Kyler where his name came from at X games, 2014, 2015 maybe one of those X games

I was like where did who come from and I like that feels like dude that feels like 20 years ago that feels like so long ago I know and think about it and I'm the oldest player in the league so it's like it all comes back to this I don't even have the most like mileage under the belt so like what were you doing

back then I was a drizzie man goes back to the drizzies just playing basketball just to go views when did you graduate at 20 like 19 I think What, how are you? The shit. The thing is, I ask these type of questions all the time, and I'm never like, I'm just never ready for the answer.

You're like, oh, that makes sense. Because I remember my come up, and I've said this before, but my come up, like, I was the young person. And I guess that's everyone's come up. Yeah. Like, everyone was the young person at one point. But, like, I won 09 Nats. I don't know if I, like, talked about this story before. I won 09 Nats when I just turned 18.

So I was, I was like the young person winning the event. And now I'm somehow the oldest fuck everywhere I know. I'm the oldest person that lives in my apartment. Were people talking about you like you're the next Roy? Yeah, yeah. No, they were just saying fluke. Oh, okay. I didn't really have like a, this guy's up next.

So you're the 09, the 09 champs went and it's kind of, or World's win is kind of like the TK champs win. What year was that? Oh, wait, no, not TK. Oh, you're talking about World War II? World War II, yeah. EG. EG. Yeah.

EG. What yours is that? 2018. Wait, was that with like silly? Silly assault. Ew. I'm fucking them. Yeah, I think you're them.

I mean, I hate to say it. You might be. You're still, you're still solidified, bro. A legend. A win's a win. When you walk into the HALO event, the banner. There's the end. When you walk into the HALO event that don't happen, the banner.

How many? How many event was the, you know? How many event wins? He said, do you know? Do I know? Just guessing. It depends. I do feel like there's an asterisk on one.

He has two. Asterick. You have two? He has two. He doesn't count one of them. But one of them was a invitation only where they invited like, basically like the biggest names in HALO. It was like formal, fucking Roy, fucking, I don't know, whoever the biggest names were at the time. But then they got to pick their teams.

and then before the game it was Halo 2 anniversary so it was a Halo 2 remake but the game didn't even come out yet you had to go there then you played it then there was a whole tournament on it and then we won that tournament so it does like the way I how much money was it for it was a good amount like 5K

yeah like 5K I remember formal was like I was trying so hard I know you needed that because I think he had some success in cod and then came back for like one halo event. Really? Yeah, it was in between ghosts and AW. So Matt had like the craziest month ever.

He won the last ghost event, joined Optic, went back and won that halo event and then started with Optic. What? That's actually a war. Yeah. Yeah. Where was a formal? 2015?

Yeah, 20K. Dude, you've got to count that. Bro, you guys don't even know. You got to count. So that that's a chip. I'm seeing five right there That's five, wait, wait, wait, wait. A little two throwback

Some of these are online. I mean, bro, some of these guys are online, they're like, drawback. If there's a throwback, like, I'm dominating. Because I'm just the best old fuck. You're the best of the old fucks? That's maybe actually lethal's, well, lethal doesn't count.

Not that old. Oh, he's getting up there. My God, look at these names, bro. If you guys got third place at an event these days, and they only paid out, Like, I remember back in the day, I'd get a top three. And I'm like, fuck, yeah, I can, like, live the next, like, two months.

The payout would be, like, 3K each. What's 3K to you guys at... Top 15? Why, just... Not even placing-wise, but, like, 3K, just... Like, $20,000? I feel like you guys wouldn't even... React to it?

Yeah. Exactly. I'm just joking. I was like, my... Shit, I have to be humble. Actually, he's right. He's right. 3K is like, that's a big deal for me.

Like, I don't know. Like 3K back in the day, you would like, you're like, I can now live. I can make it to the next. I can like buy food. Yeah, maybe get an upgrade PC controller. Like you can. There's no. There's no salaries back then.

So you get it. Maybe you get a new controller. Like you maybe order pizza. Yeah. And then it's like kind of got to save. And then you realize like, damn, this shit going quick. It's going very quick. Yeah, very fast.

Even the, or what is third place now? Like, what's the- It depends. I mean, at a major, I think it's... What was it for champs? This is champs? 8. 80s. Yeah, dead last.

Is it 40K? Dude, I think if you go to EWC and don't even win a map, you get 5K each. Just by going there, just the fly there. I mean, somebody pick me up. Yo, I'm Loki. I'll be sub. I'll be sub for a team. Yeah, I've got to, I got to, I got to.

a question I was thinking about all the way over here. So I've seen you guys both joke about Vegas about what happened at champs, like on stream and stuff or you laugh at other people's jokes. And I think about it because in Black Ops 3 when our guys lost champs, there was no joking. Like no one said like,

you know, fucking assault kills him or like see a fudgeon later. Like there was and and then I remember and it was like devastating like everyone I think everyone left like I didn't see formal for like two months after that turn. Is that actually like picture where form was on the ground? Yeah. It was like the most heartbreaking. It's the most heartbreak I'd ever seen in any in any optic match ever. And then like fast forward to when the accuracy thing happens.

I saw Dylan in the hallway. Dylan didn't leave the hallway for like an hour. You remember that. I remember that. I remember that hour was like the. Eerie a shit. Wait, wait,

that wasn't a big chance, right? No, no, Cold War, it was a Cold War major. Online major. It's one of those chips

that people count out on line. And Dylan's just head and hands didn't leave the hallway for like an hour. I mean, that shit's sick in me. Yeah,

no. Yeah, I'm not, I was sick to my stomach, but I can't lie. And, but I remember after that happened formal like,

like an hour went by and the formal was like, started making jokes. Like, he's just so icy. Like, talking about, talking about actors. Yeah,

yeah, to land up. And I just think like that that has showed like it's not that Matt didn't want it as much. It's just like he had already dealt with that like heartbreak that like now that heartbreak is easier to get over. Yeah. Oh, I could really. Do you all think y'all are at that stage like both you guys? A little.

I mean, that loss, the only reason I force myself to get over it and forces the right work is like if it was up to me, I would have still been to press right now. But I mean, we have been up. That's true. If it was the last event, I would have been like, oh my God, feel sorry for me, everybody. You ain't got time to be depressed. Maybe one day. One day. Well, you ain't got time to be depressed.

Not for me. I mean, dude, I'm a player. So, like, I feel like, what the fuck? Dude, the setups are just terrible. Right now, for a limited time, everyone's part of the Buick team. Even you. Buick's employee pricing for you event is on now. Get a purchase credit of up to $3,168 on a 2026 Bueick Envision.

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BetMGEM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. I swear to God, like, bro, if I, like, genuinely, if I lose and I know that I played like shit, like, all right. Like, I'm mad enough to admit that shit for the most part. Like, I'm trying to think of an event that, like, recently that I played like shit. honestly I have really bad memory but like bro that that like it doesn't make sense for the warm up PCs

to feel better than the actual pieces that I'm playing on yeah if that makes any sense yeah but it's not just this event by the way like there's so many events at least this this specific year I've had the most where my PC just doesn't feel like and it's hard to explain it's like a feeling thing like it's a performance thing it's literally just like a feeling thing that you had to like

just play a lot to like understand what the fuck were you talking about the best way to even somewhat to explain it it's probably like you know in Hala 5 or you used to have like heavy aim. Yes. And you would have to like start and then exit. That's the best way to explain like how specific set of feels like.

Yeah. You either you have like your game feels really light and it feels good. And then there's times where like it feels heavy as fuck and your character literally feels like it's in mud. And yeah, just annoying. And then wait, I feel like the shittiest part, especially as a player is like, bro. If you bring it up, it's a lose lose. Like you either make it an excuse because like you got shit on. I mean.

Someone's already type. Yeah, or it's just, it's just a lose-lose. So you don't ever want to bring it up, but you also don't want to just sit there and get fucking ran. So it's like, and no one ever looks at the league. I feel like the league never holds zero accountability when it comes to a shit like that. And for some reason, it's like every other league that I watch, yes, Val, league.

Like, bro, they have the top of the, like they have the cream of the crop. They got the best shit. As far as like hardware. Yeah. I mean, why wouldn't they? Bro, you're playing the quote unquote best league in the game or best league in the world. Yeah, right. You're supposed to represent.

Like their PCs are just that much better. Well, to be fair, caught is also. a shittier game to run like fucking compared to the other games but yeah there's a lot of depth thing there's so much weird shit that goes into it did I don't know if it's the PC I don't know if it's a server I don't know if I remember

I was talking to Ian about it he said it was something to do with the what's the shit you plug in the internet SSD or no he brought up the but he said the thing you plug into the wall like it's like a thousand hurt or watts or some shit like the or not the port the the power yeah some shit

he brought some turn shit and I was like listening it was Sunday night I was just like Yeah, it's definitely Oh, Porter. I was eating it all up. I'm like, I fucking knew it. I knew it was the fucking guys.

I'm like, fucking guys are awfully. Yeah, I know. Well, what people don't, what like fans don't understand is they'll argue that.

But they, they'll look at it like, like you guys are playing on technically good PCs. Like, and they just look at that as like one thing. Like, you're playing on a good PC.

There's no excuse. But they don't get like, there is that, feeling where, like, on Halo 5, like, one, I don't know if it's a server, but it's, like, one game you'll play, and it's like, it just feels normal. Like, jumping feels normal, sliding feels normal. Shit, just, like, even just move.

You don't even have to shoot and try to kill for it to, like, to test out if it feels normal. But on Cod, it's like, people think because you have a certain amount of frames that, like, that's it. They need, like, for example, the rest. But it's like, what the fuck is it? Exactly. Because I'm sure your frames are good at the event.

Sometimes. Oh, did they tank sometimes? Sometimes, yeah, they tank. Yeah, if it doesn't say Packybursts or it doesn't say frame or frame loss or like it's not about 90 frames, then a rep is not going to be like, like, all right, sure, let's change this PC out. There's just something fucking weird. And it might be like too much. Did the PC changes work?

Like, could you feel a difference after the person? You know, I made no sense. No what? I didn't get a kill the first team apps of one of finals. And then I was like, what the fuck is this shit? I'm playing on literally like, you guys remember PS4, like the share play? And then you could like your boy could let you play from his shit. That's exactly.

what it felt like. I was playing main stage and I'm like, I can't get a fucking kill. That's what I was thinking. And then some people I look at it like, oh, it's placebo like change your shit. And then it works. I'm like, no, it's because my fucking bullets could actually connect. And I can actually play the game. You know what I mean? You can't like, I mean, I'm like I used to do it. But like, I'm so past the point where it's like talking about it. And like, I guess we're talking about it. But it's more like bringing it up and like, like hopefully they do something about it. Because I just kind of grew up to realize that, bro, these guys, I don't want to say they don't give a fuck, but they're very. Let's just say cheap. Like they're cutting corners. Like, bro, the PCs like, If we get an upgrade, it's once every six years. Like, I'm just like, whatever.

I'm spawning in, bro. I'm spawning in, bro. There's one less major year. The price pools are going down. I'm getting more online matches. Bro, this is really fun. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like, bro, I could rant all day about this, but I'm just going to be like, you know, chill for now. But, um, I'm not to cut this and I imagine, but, uh, no, because I think, I think you're right. The last PC upgrade was block up six. And that was since Monofer 19. So first PC upgrade in six years. Yeah. And we were, this is the first year, too.

were off the Omen monitors. We were on them since Cold War to last year. It's like, it is a lose-lose because you're also talking. You're also trying to like... What does it sound like when I'm like bitching about this? It sounds like we're just making an excuse. That's why I don't bring it because...

I actually do think Fas is a better team too, by the way. By the way, I do think Faisers was the better team because I don't want to sit here and say, we only lost because of bad PCs. That'd be so, like, disingenuous to say. But it's just more of the fact that if we don't bring it up, if we bring it up, it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's such a lose-lose. It's like...

And the league, I feel like uses that for, like, their power almost. The lose looseness. Because, bro, if the player brings it up, it's an excuse, everyone's just going to. Like, I bet they love when y'all bring it up and they just see their replies. Yeah, like getting roasted, like, excuse, cope. And these cheap bastards better change their fucking shit. See, I love it because it gives me closure. Yeah, like, in 2020, in 2020, when I was playing Halo 3 online, bro, there was some games where, like, and it just made no sense.

Sometimes it's like even just making jumps Yeah Just like like on pit Jumping on the little thing And then jumping on top banana On top of the bridge Sometimes I'm like I can't even make this jump Why I can't even make this jump

Why I can But there was some like I don't know if it's PC server Like I just didn't have the answers So now to see people experiencing the pain That I went through secretly In my dark apartment

It kind of just like It almost brings me joy not to like I know exactly but it like brings me closure like I knew I was I knew I wasn't you fucking insane it's also impossible to relate

like as a viewer because you're talking you're you know when people are listening to this or whatever this is gonna get clip by fucking rab or whatever like you're the only people that are watching that only have one PC or they only have one Xbox or one PlayStation so they don't know

what it's like to they don't even know what it's like to play on a different PC like I'm the same way I don't really know what it's like play on a different PC. So all I'm used to is my home setup. I don't go to an event. I don't go to a land and have to play on a setup that's not my home setup. So I can't feel the difference between, you know, two different setups in the first place.

I want to say it's like, I don't think it's on the lead, by the way, like, because obviously they could improve, they could like upgrade their shit. They could definitely make some tweaks. But it's probably 70% them. I want to say 30% is like the game, bro. Like the servers are fucking terrible. Yeah. The devs obviously, I mean, they care sometimes, but...

Codd is like, there's... So much factors. Yeah. But, by the way, I never bitched about you like this when I was on console. I never did. Maybe sometimes I'd be like... Dude, Damon came up to me on Sunday night. Also, was Damon touching your dick on Sunday night?

Yeah, me neither. He didn't touch... He kept like... Someone else. He kept like going out to people and like tap him, tap it. And then he tapped me and then Porter was like, like, he's tapping. tapping dicks tonight. He was like, what?

He actually was, he actually would do that? Why does Porter have flow with it? Like, yo, he does, he gets in this mood sometimes. He'd be tapping dicks, bro. But he came out to me and, you know, and I was, we were just like small chatting. And so I was like, so how were the PCs? And then I was stuck for 25 minutes. Damon was like, had two drinks in his hand and he was yelling in my ear like,

bro, it's horrible. You don't understand. Like, I could tell, like, map one, we win. And Kyler still got a PC change because he couldn't kill anybody. It's not insane? Like, why would you want to ever kill your own momentum at Champs? No, no, it's just, it's in their head.

The weirdest thing was, by the way, so whenever Kyler requested the PC change, tell me why they brought a PC that was already fucked up. Yeah, the one from France, right? The one, the one to record, the Sheriff's. How do you like, no? But the rest said it, because they said it. Yo, I can't believe, yo, by the way,

this is one of the craziest things I've ever heard on the main stage, especially at the Champs finals. This one's fucked up, too, by that. Yeah. Because Kyler's like, yo, my shit feels off after you want. You still hear the crowd roaring. Like, it's still like one of those moments. Yeah.

And then he's like, what's wrong with it? What's wrong with it? And then the rest, look at you. Like, you're a fucking ghost. Like, they're like, what do I do? They're almost looking at you like, you're fucking crazy. Like, what you mean? Your shit.

Like, it's on. It's on. It's on. It works. Yeah. So then like, okay, we're going to get a PC swap. And then they... No, no.

The worst thing is that they say replicate what happened. How the fuck are you know, repubcating what happened? So then, yeah, literally. on that part of like there's and then and then the refs he's missing it with his mouse cursor yeah yeah yeah literally it looks so braint by the way that was my shit that was the shit I was on it but I was true I swear to God I'm like looking at the ref like what do I do he's like oh yeah we could change this probably I was like thanks appreciate it fucking bare minimum at least but then they look at each other

they're like I don't know why we brought this BSA we knew that this was the fucked up one I was like they said that I'm like let's sort of go where to God bro get the release the comms Release those coms. Yeah, release the fucking CDLCOMs, and I'm looking over like, yo, did I just hear that? Like, you guys were like willingly, you guys knew this was fucked up.

You guys have a thousand other PCs, but let's just give him the one that's fucked up. Like, bro, what? Like, yeah, this. And then it's just the fact that it's like, I don't know, dude. That's so disturbing to me when I hear show like that. I'm like, oh.

But when David was yelling at my ear, he was like, all the players want to go back to console. It was like, all the players. Like, how drunk are you? It might have been. just been me. He's just been talking to you.

Get us back on console. Wait, would people actually want to go to console or no? I feel like no way. No. Because I feel, we'll do, I mean,

who knows? Matt Craig sets up. The only issue is that, dude, you can still hack on fucking console now. So it's like, I don't care about the hack.

But there's like, there's just less issues. There's so many less issues. More consistency among what you're playing. You just get on and, bro. You get shit on.

You get shit on. I never said, bro. This B.S. I don't know. We've done some like, is four shit today, bro. We've done some videos back there. I haven't seen the best performances

whenever we log on to like a Xbox or PS5. Remember we did like a, we signed in, tweeted out of code for a free for all. And we were all playing on it. Just everyone's getting fucking destroyed. Like even the pros, I was like,

I don't know if console would be. Like it just would take you. It would take a day and a half. I mean, yeah, 100%. You would have to get used to it again. but like going back to a console, you think it might be a good idea,

but then you try it again, you're like, this fucking sucks. You know that you would be playing on something worse for sure. Yeah, yeah, but I,

for me, I'm all about, like, fucking... Playing on a worse. Yeah, it's like comp integrity, brother, like, can I just get on and like, I don't,

you know what I'm saying? And it's not a placebo. Like, we play the game every day. Like, I could go on to a setup and be like, what the fuck?

Like, bro, that's why I'm so, like, superstitious with, like, my routine and having the same particular so I have the most consistency and if it's so at home do you guys have a better PC than your scrim PCs I look you like barely play God of my place I was about to say no it's the same it's the same

it's the same okay like do you make it the exact same no no I just you make your PC at home the same that you're gonna be playing on at the event if you're able to you but now I just have it because it's just like an extra PC extra CDO PC yeah that makes sense I do that the facility yeah you I even told James because before I think it was like Birmingham and I don't think the some of the content guys like pulled up to that one and then I was like you send me like a video like just my monitor said everything and he was like recording it and something because I forgot some of the same it's like some of your super you mentioned like superstition I'm very superstitious but like what's the the weirdest one not the weirdest what just what's your routine

when does the superstition start does it start when you sit down at your desk or does it start when you wake up and you're getting out of bed okay it's a little but the the the first first part's not that superstitious it's more like routineish but i always have to get breakfast at the same like the same breakfast too like it has to be like eggs some type of like fruits ash brown ordering it or going somewhere either or i said i've had enough ad rather i'll give you one that was fucking just funny to you and think about i don't even know i'm like this but like in Vegas i didn't like i forgot my face wash i always bring face wash and i forgot it this time and then at this point where'd you like day two so it's like saturday no it's probably like friday night

because yeah we put thursday one friday one and then my friday night like i finally got the face wash and then we've won the previous two days so then saturday morning i was like i'm not using the face wash i'm not using the face wash it's it's it's just weird like i don't know that's how it's that's more like yeah you're just like you're i'm not i'm not trying to fuck up bro because i played hockey so superstitions back then was like so like bro you put on the left knee pad before the right one if you put on the right one you're getting smoke it was one of so what's your game day superstition okay one the first eggs some first Okay, that's more routineish.

That's not really superstition. One superstition I have is when I get to the, or like wherever I'm about to play, like I cannot pick up my control unless I wash my hands. If I do, I'm getting shut on. I was about the same way. Like if I don't, because every time I wash my hands, it's the same consistent, like, feel. Because you know something with, or you, like, you drink something like fucking, let's say the condensation of it, like, it could be sticky.

Like, I hate like any inconsistency. Yeah. No, that makes sense. Are you washing your hands nonstop at events? Almost, yeah. Even if I, bro, I could eat. This might sound a little weird. This actually is a little weird, but I could eat like a Chipole bowl, not even use my hands and watch my hands before I'm not even joking That makes sense. No, it makes sense. You never know the salsa

Yeah could be in the air Yeah, on your hands like right right before the match starts are you washing your hands before you go sit down? Yeah Like every single thing. You all use Gamer grip too like we're about a play You should see Bayes's controller talking about if I don't do anything I don't have to put it at guys controller road needs to be fucking Yeah, yeah Investing Mason's controller for sure I'm not even trolling that shit Wow. Dude, one time before a...

Wait, what? Does he, like, eat chips and then just start games? No, dude, you just need to see it. No, it's because of the gamer group. Because, you know how people talk about his hands? Oh, yeah. His hands are so sweaty. Combination of the sweat and the gamer grip has made, like...

Probably, like, revolting. It looks insane, dude. It looks insane. It looks insane. Have you ever grabbed it? Fuck, no, I'm never grabbing that shit. I told him he probably has to... You never touched that shit?

You should see the way it looks. He should switch the black on his controller. Like, white is too, like, we see the residue and shit. You know what I mean? Like, one time before, before, uh, Before Seth went on stage, I was backstage and he had both of his hands up because he had just put gamer grip on and he had his water bottle like clutched like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was like, Davis, can you can you close the lid on the water bottle?

I don't want to touch it. I have gamer grip on. And you're like, sure. And I just started because it was like a, it wasn't like this. It was like a screw on water bottle. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure. Like, thanks. And then goes on stage and I was like, holy, because he didn't want to fuck up.

Everyone has their own little flow For example, like I can't drink a water If it's like fucking Fresh out the water Like the condensation of it Like while I'm playing it has to be like either room temp Or in like a bottle that's like if I grab it If I grab it

If I have to wipe myself it's Gigi I'm getting shut on like Have you ever had a guy this this year Or last year have you all had a god box God box Like you were just shooting Yeah major three Yeah

I don't know what event it was but yeah, I love that shit. You were just like, holy shit. It just feels like insane, like so loose. Like, it feels routine, I guess. I don't really know how to explain it. That's one I could remember is like, in recent years or this year?

Any year. Any year, any year. It's a PC that feels perfect? Yeah, just like you're, you seem like you're killing faster. All your bullets are hitting. Everything seems better. Yeah, I want to say.

You try to mark it. Like a low marker and just. For me, it was major one or major two. I don't know what it was. Toronto Major 3 Sunday It was like You're good one Yeah, me and you

Get a really Yeah, let's see that one Yeah, yeah Actually yeah everyone watched that one Toronto Major 3 Sunday That was a great one dude That's one of my favorite tournament Blackout 6?

No, MW3 Oh MW3 That show was like a That was a great ass game dude Are you all excited for IW? I mean I don't know you haven't really Had a chance to think

IW? Infinity War Yeah The new con The new con MW4 I thought I don't know if you all looked at it at all.

I've seen it, bro, it looks like fucking, uh, it looks like MW2, no? It looks like, yeah. It kind of looks like MW2. It looks like MW19. Have they released like trailers? They, they had a, they had like a showcase where like five streamers went to like a, it looked like a packs. Was Joe one of them? Yeah.

Joe. Joe, swag. Tim the Tapman and. Simplid. Yeah. I think fucking. All those. I thought like I saw NBA players too.

Yeah. I think there were like celebrities there too. Yeah. My brother was hanging out with Jalen Suggs. He was abusing the card. You saw my brother's IG story. Like he's going out with him. Like he's just like,

Jaylon Suggs and they're drinking or some shit. Wait, we're at? It was in Vegas. Oh, shit. And I'm just like, my brother, I replied to my brother's story. I'm like, Shoeh Heavy, what's happening? He's like, no way. Jailen Sugs looking for you, bro.

I'm like, bro. I'm like, bro. You know, I'm not going out. Enjoy your time. Is he a big NBA fan, your brother? A little bit. He loves football and tennis. That's a shit.

I need to get into sports. Who's y'all's teams? For anything? For any, for huge. Well, I used to be a huge lease fan, and now I just go where the Baran goes. Yeah, I'm following. I'm sixers. I was like, I was like, I used to be a Lakers fan.

But now I'm like a Sixers fan. I used to be like, and now I'm just like, I don't know. I'll just love like MBE and shit. I don't really have a fair to. I just love the Philly culture. There's just something. Dirt bikes. Isn't that crazy that he's on sixers?

They ain't going to do shit That is? That team looks scary All big and shit In all season bro When the game starts And then half the roster is missing For a fucking regular Wednesday match

Like it's over, man I think there's going to be injuries And there's going to be People, I heard someone say This is the best Roster ever formed Actually,

Okay, that's ridiculous No, there's no way That's ridiculous What is the best roster ever formed? Golden State It has to be With G8 With G8

Yeah, bro, that team So that team's the Avengers, bro. And they were proven too. Wasn't that team like already, what was the record that they had before? 73 and 9. Yeah, 73 and 9. They stopped still the record. And then Katie joined.

Yeah, literally. That's sick, man. It's disgusting. And what's disgusting about two, about their team is like they all work together. Like they don't all need the ball. And bro, they could literally, like their playstiles mesh with each other. Like that Sixers team could be good. But it's like they all need the ball.

Like MB, J.B. LeB. Tyrese is he's a He's a one So it's like He always needs the ball For the most part So it's just like And then fucking

You know That full is raw dude What's his name? VJ Yeah VJ ECHCoh That guy is actually

Yeah Wait what team is he on? Sixers Guard Arte R team They need him He's on Rtees

He's on Rtees He's on Rtees We're gonna go At that Operry's on Rteam Yeah I don't know If I wouldn't

Rout for the Sixers Or the Timber Wolves You Antman Antman And then they got A Mello Ball too They got La Mello?

I'm a La Mello ball. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because everybody from Charlotte was freaking out. Damn. Dude, it's funny that Lamello ball was like the Michael Jordan of Charlotte. Like, they were crying when he left. Actually? Yeah, because, like, I saw clips of them interviewing people on the street, and they were like, no, Lamello come back.

That team has had only. Now it's like, now what they got? Now what do they have? This is for their, like, six years down the line. They got that one guy. The sniper? What is the name? sniper

he shoots like insane 3% yeah that might be the one team I don't know anything about Hornets I feel like I know like decent amount of ball can you look up that name of Matt he's on the hornets he's like really good My buddy used to work for the Hornets

And I was like I was like what why the Hornets always suck Yeah there Conn Wait Nas Reid is on this team Bradley Miller Oh they traded him I think For Jason Allen

Another guy right there Con Noop This guy's him What's this guy's him He's got the Bulls? Look at his three point percentage. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's 47 for a field.

My buddy used to work for the Bulls, or not the Bulls, the Horus? And I asked him, I was like, why do the Hornets always suck? Oh, he's a rookie, too. And he was like, bro, when it comes to Michael Jordan, Michael, like, when it comes to being a bad, a bad CEO of a basketball team, Michael Jordan is the Michael Jordan of being a bad CEO. He's that bad.

He's that bad. I was like, holy shit. Most overrated human of all time. Wait, don't you think Jordan's best ever? I do. I think about it. I don't know, though. Okay, for example, like, I just failed a three-peat last week, and he did that twice.

And, bro, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's... You might have just converted me. Bro, that, I'm telling you, just to do that, I was like, holy fuck, that's once in a lifetime. He did that twice? Yo, wait, the people on his roster? Like, were they good, or did he just take over? Yes.

Oh, really? That's that good. Based on my daughter, he doesn't say, bro, he has every accolade you could have, but it's just more like even looking at it, bro. Like he said like, but he so was, he was so trendy before anyone. I think there were probably multiple years, right, where Scotty Pippen was the second, like, best player in the league. Yeah.

You would think? Oh, their team was stacked. Don't get a twist of their team fucking loaded. Did I have, like, any weakness? Three years old. No. Really not. for gambling

Morgan was getting defensive Yeah, a bit of The other Motherfucker was getting defensive player of the year

winning every scoring titles MVP, MVP, all-star MVP for no reason But I just look at it like,

you know, that's what Oger 2 would have did in fucking 04. Like the cop just wasn't but was the cop

there at the time You're always pushing a ceiling. The way I look at it is like, because Kobe's my favorite player

ever and he was glazing Jordans and he copied him bar for bar for bar you ever see those videos side by side like those two playing and

it looks like it looks like a mirror like they're just playing like it's just Kobe literally copied in bar for bar and that's Kobe you don't I'm saying like So I'm sorry we don't cap He kept it real Yeah he did Damn are we on the wrong side

You guys are on the wrong side No we're not on the wrong LeBron Hater though He's not on 1991 But once Drake said fuck LeBron Yeah that's fuck Brian That's true shit man

Now it might be fuck I've always said that like Jordan was Had an edge on him Yeah On Braun Yeah for sure In fact Bron might

It might be It might be Jordan Kobe wilt Will Then De Mardrosan Will The Marderoson Let's get back to Vegas

The Jal Yeah Bam's ham dude Did you all enjoy Vegas Is Vegas a spot Y'all like to be at for an event Yeah A.k.a. A.K. were y'all gambling?

Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah? Up or down it? Oh, down for sure. How much are we down? You were up when I talked to you. He was down. I was a 5K, I think.

He was down. You were down when I talked to you. But it was before Champ Sunday. Really was? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I won the very first day. No, I won the second day. I won Friday.

It's Thursday I lost like 3K. And then Friday I won like 5K. I think. Yeah, another superstition since we were talking. about earlier, I didn't gamble this time. Because the first time we went to Vegas, we won it. And I was like, and I was 19, I couldn't gamble. And then the other time, three years ago we came, got smoke.

I was gambling. Went up seven bands the first day. Ended up losing it all at the end of the weekend. It was rage betting. But like, I was used up all the good luck, all the good juju, and then I got ran in the tournament, got bad timing. You know, all the cliche shit. It's also fucking with your dopamine.

Like, it's messing with your brain chemistry. And you don't know what time it is. So you can lose track of time so fast gambling. You got a match in an hour and a half. Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck? stole the jersey from the day before You're supposed to have on your champ white You still got it on the other jersey

Yeah I'm just like I'm like oh fuck it's Sunday Bob I'm locked them boys this guy I didn't realize Someone was telling me they Curve like when you walk Was it you that told me this hitch They curved the walkways in Vegas

For some weird thing To like fuck what To kind of just like put you in a Like in the casino Yeah in the casinos Like it's always you're kind of always walking like this. It's never just like straight.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Wait, that is true. 100%. But I forget the reason, Matt, maybe you can look it up. But I forget the reason, but it's just like, bro, the whole thing is. No, I've watched this. Yeah, it's just mental manipulation. They're pumping air in the.

Bro, it's a maze when you go in there. You bro, if you take a, we take one wrong right, you're in slots for like five minutes. And it's like, what the fuck? You take one wrong right and you're just, fuck. Do you know they like pump air in the casinos? I heard of that. I heard that's a myth, though. I've heard

I've heard they used to do it I don't know if it's a I don't know if it's real though but it does feel cleaner in there but I also can't smell the smoke people are like if you're hungover oh that's true people are smoking so it's like

they gotta be doing yeah it's gotta be some sort of yeah you're right filtration like air filtration yeah does it not smell like absolute ass yeah does it not smell ass does it smell like smoke

I didn't really smell unless I'm beside it which is they gotta be pumping air then that's what they have to be or at least feel it's somehow Don't you all's favorite event to go to location-wise? Or Toronto. Just ever.

Toronto's got to be up there. Toronto's no one for me, dude. Toronto. Yeah, or... Even champs? Oh. No, that's not Toronto. Kitchen range.

Sorry. I didn't eat in, bro. My parents almost didn't even pull up to that shit. They were fucking, like, bro. I don't even know what kitchen is... I still can't believe. Dude, that was such a shit event. Yeah.

Why do they do that? I can't even remember going to the actual event. Like, I'm not even... I don't remember the hotel, that shitty-ass hotel that we were at. And I don't even remember the venue. Like, I don't even know how we... Honestly, it was a lit-ass week, though. Actually, no, I do remember, actually.

It was at the guy that college, you know, or something? No, it was at the kitchener Rangers where the OHL teams are... Oh, yeah, yeah. By the way, so, you know, that's back-to-back years where I'm playing in a hockey rink and we win champs, and then the one year we don't, we got to go back to hockey rinks only than my thing about. No more WMBA stadiums. Yeah, I got you. Yeah, I got you.

Fuck the WMBA. You know, yeah. Fuck Vegas? You know, fuck Vegas. Vegas being played in WMBA? Yeah, the Aces. The Aces Stadium. The old, there's, oh, that's where they played?

W.N.A. Aces, yeah. That's where was, they played the Mendoly? Yeah. It had the Ais's banner everywhere. Yeah, I actually didn't know. Because I made a joke. I didn't make a joke. Well, I was a joke because it's not WMBA season. I don't think. Is it? Shit, it might be. I have no idea.

But I, uh, I was like, too, should want to catch the Aces game today? And he was like, sure. And then we were in, and he was like, is that why you said, let's catch an Ais's game because this is where the aces play and I was like I don't know and he was like look at the banners holy shit yeah they're all it's all ace's shit

so are they dominant because I feel like the WNBA is like fairly new I'm pretty sure they won last year the aces they won last year I don't know right I know that all I know is Paige Becker's place here and Caitlin Clark plays in India Indiana Indiana right

Indiana that's all I know I'm pretty sure the AGE Wilson is On Aces. Oh, yeah, yeah, she's on the Aces. What was the inaugural season of the WNBA? Oh, look that out. No, but we should like, we should trivia each other with that. What do you think it was?

The inaugural? The first. Yeah, what's it mean? 1990. No, you think that old? First season of at WNBA. Yeah, 1995. Lisa Leslie, I knew of Lisa Leslie growing up.

No, that's like 1980s. I was going to say like 03, bro. No, I bet you was like 95. Apparently there was a There was a There was a there was a there was a player A woman player that played on an NBA team What?

No no shot 1997 I was close dude Damn I was right That's great Can you look up a women basketball player Played on the NBA Nah no way

That's not Yeah do you remember shit from like that like late in the 90s neck He's like 98 99 Like his bro you like Uh I remember I remember Playing Atari

So I remember living in Fungstown Maryland my friend lived in a trailer park just down the street and I remember going to his place and he'd have like Biggie Smalls plan White Yeah Like I'm talking like

Just came out Just came out Like and y'all just bumping it I'm just bumping it That's hard bro It is kind of cool having like some memories like that Then his trailer burned down And like it's some A mile type shit

Like I grew up in like the slums Lucia Harris played for the New Orleans Jazz In 1977 Yeah I don't believe it. She got shit on, bro. There's no way, bro. Respectfully, bro.

There ain't no way she lasted longer than, like, practice, brother. Did she get a game? I don't, I don't think so. I don't think so. Like, this was like some, like, when was she drafted? She was drafted by the Jazz in the 77. Went in the seventh round.

How many games of the Jazz when they were three? I don't know. I mean, I don't know if she ever played, actually. What if there's highlights? Oh, she was pregnant. She was pregnant. She was pregnant, so she was unable to attend the camp. She was, she's smart.

She's smart. She said, fuck that. She probably saw fucking, wait, 1977. She probably saw Wilt walking by us. She's like, I can't cut this shit. Ninety-seven was not Wilt Chamberlain. 1970. This is 77.

I don't know if I said 97. Yeah, she never played. So she never played. Fucking Kareem or some shit. Oh, yeah, hell of that. Five foot 11 against Will? 70 step, Corrine?

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Wait, look at that Franklin guy. Like, how long did he have his job after he drops him? Well, there she met. Well, Trimman. Yeah, she. Who joked that she had broken his triple-didget shooting record. she might be her though for women's bro like it's like there was no women

there wasn't a WNBA so what do these girls do after they get done with college like two of them join the NBA that's fantastic It's fucking hard It's kind of dope I think I don't know But yeah the ACEs play

That's where the ACEs play Not all step from that I forgot about I forgot about I got a cod related question This has always bothered me And every time I've watched I think I've even

I think I might have said something to you at Vegas but it's like y'all are sitting there maybe it'll be like when do the coaches come up after every map after every map they come up and before the first map they're just talking who decides who's gonna talk that's a question

do you guys know I think it's always Damon first also both people do talk yeah but then like JP will get like the Job's not dumb boys like he's like he's always throwing in like these like these last dance one liners and trying to like to motivate us and chat like fucking getting jpies

sometimes i'll look up there and i'll see like jp. talking and i'm like okay maybe it's a sndd coming up next and like basically if they have like but is it always both coaches talk yeah sometimes one will have more time

than the other because like the maps just kind of start right away but who talks the most probably i think it's 50 50 because like jp's more like depends of dammit's turn yeah dammit's turts like you guys are fucking trolling

like i was gonna say is his turn like a negative like come on what the fuck yeah he's got he's got a good balance he's got like the all good like we're just tweaking he's like he's like a dad he's like a dad this best way to put it it's so funny the difference between how locked you guys are in that moment to how unlocked me and nick are

we're literally sitting there in the stands and we're watching them put the headsets on and we're mimicking what they might be saying dude yeah we're just going back and forth like come on come on aunt like all right so he's gonna go off your off break and you're gonna stay on the left side

I'm like he likes to play here but you guys are and i'll say that to nick i'm like dude in the moment like we're over here joking and they could not be more locked in what is what's jp be saying like if he's like break off like like metess and dhe will like remind us like you know they do this this and that and then dam is more on like yo make sure we're fucking doing this shit like bombing small talking they're doing the little shit like dama's doing like the yoda shit of like a former player shit the yoda shit is there ever a time where you

practice, say in S&D, you practice this break off, you think you know what they're going to do, but then you get to the event and like round one's about a start. You're just, like, do you already know what you're doing round, like, we have offense round one, this is what we're going to do. Sometimes. Or is there ever a time you sit there

and you're like, wait, I feel, like, I don't think they're going to do that. I think like we should do this. Yeah, that's literally. Like just base off gut feeling. It's all my games. It's all chess against. Like, for example, like, let's say we play. Or do you think I think, I think They think. Yeah, exactly.

Yes. I'm not even joking. I think they think that we are going to do this. So let's just park to do this. Yeah, literally. I mean, that's an example of a colossus map one against phase in the Grand Funnels. Me and O4 always going to both side of the map, like, and it's to one v. one every single time.

But I loki knew, like, he wasn't going to play it. So I knifed out and just, like, flanked right away. I just, like, knew. Oh, shit, really? Yeah, just because, like, the previous, like, two or three times, like, we traded both times so like I just like

fly right out or do you just like kind of check in you were like I just like I just like I was path into it like I made sure

you went there and then I just went but yeah little examples like it's a lot of feeling and like I don't like to like I call it pre-planning I actually hate having like

this side of like round word we're doing this round two because I've played like that before on teams and you literally go into the game and if they don't do exactly what you were basically like studying

you look fucking brain dead on the map you're like I don't know what the next play is like I don't know what the next play is Obviously you do, but it's like, you're just always a step behind. It feels like. Do you all have a play caller in S&D? I think we all chime in, but like, it probably goes, does like 40, 50% of it.

And the other, like, 30 is like every... Sometimes it's... Play it off at home. Yeah. Who does the least? Lleys calling. Mason. Mason.

He just fills gaps. And then Mason after them up, like, I knew exactly what they were doing. And I'm just like, bro, I didn't... There was one day I tweaked on the league match. Like, semi-tweaked on him because I'm like, Mason, you're literally by far, like, the best S&D player. Like, I fucking... Like, at least in the... league right now that I've ever played with you got a great

mind for it speak up you know what I mean like let me know what you're thinking if you know what they were doing remember that day because he was like he said I knew exactly what they were doing every round and I'm just like I didn't I was like I didn't I could have used what you knew they were rapping a year I was like yeah he's like I got you but that kid's like he's got better at he's got way better at it I was gonna say is there some things Mace obviously very quiet kid uh sort of he was launched into like this

optic space with like you guys like legends, literally, some of the best players to ever play. It's got to be a little nerve-wracking. How much has changed for Mace from like when he first joined to what he is now? Like does he just, he speaks up more during scrimms? Has he started to rage at you yet? Like, Dashie, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, you get comfortable.

Has he had one of those moments or like, does he say what he feels y'all should be doing more? Sometimes. What has changed since the beginning of Mason joining? guys. Or is he kind of just like... I think he's still the same, but he's gotten a little more comfortable with like...

Yeah. Maybe saying like, let's say for fucking up on a play. He's like, I swear we're just trolling. Like some shit like that, but... Yeah, he's literally always in the same.

The bullshit. He's just to himself, to himself and like... Oh, Krak more jokes now, though. Yeah, he's a lot more comfortable. Like, it's like kind of like fucking like school for classmates. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Honestly the same. He hasn't changed, like, personality-wise. He's like, same. Do you ever worry about him not flowing or paddles? I was going to talk to him in the offseason like there's no way that you're no way you're 100% like

dude you know what I mean there's like bro we both play the same we both play default bro you don't see me doing this weird shit bro just buy the buns bro get used to and play slide only you know you both we're not even diving my guy like it feels like B04 so you both play default yeah but you use paddles now he plays a little different though he plays like default like and he's able to aim and dude it's the weirder shit and like also hitting his button on the bottom right i don't know how he does it wait he hits a button on the bottom right while he's aiming with

his thumb this is all one one like thing that's doing it oh his thumb is hitting like the a yes yes like what is it on playstation controller to jump what is it acts yeah yeah what i just know that that's not as good as playing with a bun for sure but it's so weird because it's like what if he did switch and it would like you probably did try and then like it and then I don't even think he tried That's what J.P. told me he went to a... Marius. Marius.

And I tried getting him off in for so long because I'm like, dude, you were literally walking on water before. What's a Marius? It's the new motherboard. It's like a, there's some dude who are walking on water. Dude, yeah, I was like, you were walking on water.

He was like, yeah, but like this controller is going to be O.P. I'm like, how greedy are you? You didn't lose a tournament. You haven't lost a tournament in months, my guy. Yeah, but this shit's Opie. Okay. bro.

What is it? It's a new PS5. It's this guy who makes motherboards and puts them into controllers, puts them in a default or Battlebeaver controllers. And so they poll at 2,000? No, 8,000.

8,000. That might be too much. I don't know, dude. This shit's like, it's one of those controllers. Does everyone play at the same polling rate? No. People play a different polling rate?

Some people play 4K. It's either what, 4K or 8K? I used the one on the left 5th pin. wait so y'all do use these the only reason I switched is because I heard that after we lost major one Neptune was running it

and he was one of the only player and he had the fucking the event where he was just destroying everybody so I was like there's got to be some show he's not a god PC yeah he had the 04 PC so now you've got to buy a controller

with buttons from Battlebeaver oh Battlebeaver so this is like an add-on no this is like this is the actual board itself yeah because if you just get a regular PS4 controller it's just going to be like 1K, it's just

cap basically. So this is your way of like playing 8K with the PS4 controller. Didn't Mason do this? It was like, I'm playing better. And then he just went to the store at Best Buy and bought a fucking Yeah, JP said he bought a Walmart controller. Yeah. Because you can get his controller like literally at 7.0000.

And he's, dude, I'm telling him that kid's an alien dude. That's why I don't like really just he plays and I'm just like, you got it, bro. You're a thing. Bro, I'll sit aside him sometimes and just like, look at his hands. I'm like, how? like wall running jumping like how are you're like aiming

and hitting this fucking jump yeah yeah he's aiming while wall running with the same thumb dude mate mace is so young in this scene that he has never competed in an infinite warfare infinity ward game first one yeah

so the model warfare four will be his first infinity board game what would that mean model so like call duty like model for 2019 Mono Fair, 2022. Like... Oh, but are you saying it means something for his, like, how he plays?

No, no, no. Well, kind of. It's just like, everybody, like, looks at pros and they're like, are they better at Treyart games or Sledgehammer games or Infinity World Games? That is a thing, by the way. Yeah. And it happens. But Ken, by the way, is like the, by far the best sledgehammer player ever seen in my life.

Ken? Ken? Yeah, bro, think about it. What was his best? World War II. That was his best game, right? Best game ever. He got second at Champs Day year.

But the other two games that he won Champston? Guess what they were? Holy shit. Vanguard. NW3. NW3. You got second first, first,

and then the one he didn't win, he was the best player in the game. Loves that engine. He does. I mean, he's, by the, he's still him out of the other shit,

but it's more like, I never thought about that. If you asked him that, if you'd be like, I don't even fucking know that. But I knew that. You knew that. Because I'm like tweaker.

Who's the best, who's the best black ops player of all time? Treyark? Or just Black Ops? Just black ops? I mean, the only other, the only other,

Traiark is fucking world of war, right? Yeah. Because it's been blockups ever since World War. I think, like, if you're counting... I mean, that's a crazy question. I wish I played Bob's 3, fuck. That was a good one. You gotta say, like...

It could have been you. It could have been you. Especially after your Black Ops 3. It might actually be sent. Yeah, I was about to say it might be some. Bro, he's fucking... Because what he has Mops for. Cold War.

Well, he has all-Tray-Arts. His rings. Is it? Oh, my God, he does, actually. Cold War. He's the new Ken. Oh, yeah, Cold War Blackups 4 and this one. And, Crem, yo, Crem's got all IW.

Oh, it's definitely safe. He's all IW? Yeah, Crim has 2014, 2017, 2017, 2020. You have all of them. Holy shit. You're a variety of players. That's crazy. I have all of them.

Boy, so next year's my chance. That's I didn't try this year. So Crim's the best Infinity War player ever. Ken's the best sledgehammer and Simps the best. Preyark. That's kind of fire. I like that. For now.

Like, I like Joe's. And trucks in three years. Yeah, we'll see. Do you think there's an MVP curse? No, I know that's your boy, so I know you don't want trash, but I wonder. I told Ernie, I'm like, you should have just let me win it, bro. This would have been all smooth sailing, my guy. But I don't know, like, they just, because I think the MVP's, because A-1, you want MVP in MW, right?

And you guys won champs. And then Paco won at MW3, or MW2. One champs. And then they won. So it's actually only been. like scrap you cannot win for your own you just can't rob it from the other player that's the only thing

if you deserved it like when do you find out that you don't win it uh i think the day before and then bry knew about it the day before and then that's what i did the interview and then blaze is like oh you might be p tomorrow man i'm just like i ain't going to win it i already knew it but i was like oh they tell you yeah because ernie walked up with me he's like yo they gave it to me and i'm just like

how what the fuck i'm like do you I started looking up the standings and shit. I'm like, no, I'm just trying. I had to do this like little, I had to do this little like monster thing that morning. It's like a monster like a live stream. And we're there.

I'm with Miles. And I'm like, and Paige is like, they still haven't told us who the MVP is. So we don't know. I don't know if Brandon's supposed to be at a certain place at a certain time. She's tweaking like she always does. And then I was like, Miles, did,

I was like, Miles, do you know who MVP is? And he was like, yes. That's it. And he said that. And I was like, well, And then I looked at it. Well, Bruce didn't win it. Like he could have, like he would have said something.

But then Miles said it wasn't, Miles said it wasn't who I voted for. Everyone says that. Who the fuck is voting? Who is voting? You know, everyone is saying, bro. Hey, my vote. I swear I've seen like 10 analysts.

Yeah. I'm like, who's voting? Yo, another thing I saw it. Their votes. No, fuck the. Nameless got 10 votes. I saw the roast. My shit.

But by the way, by the way. It's whatever. Because like, at this point, it's like, I just know there's an anti-Bruce thing in the, in the fucking camp. What is it? That's a second time, by the way. There's anti-authic.

There's a second time. There's anti-Othic. There is some anti-Ox. And this time it was reversed. So I was sell. Maybe even better than sell, actually, because we actually won an event. So I was like, maybe they'll give it to one of us. No.

I don't even, by the way, when I said this, I don't even care if I wanted it. I just thought somebody on her team should have won it. Whether it was Kyler, Mason. Yeah. Kyler. People were just saying me because I won at the MVP at the last event. So it's like just carrying on like the narrative. You know what I'm saying?

But it's more like. I like Kyler had a crazy year. Low key. Still somehow low key though. Every time I look up he's plus fucking eight. Like if some other player would have had his year, people would be like, he's a fucking god. That is the best year. So it's like he's dominating.

That's true. Had a great year. Yeah. But it's like, who? He had a pretty good year. Yeah. And I'm just confused because like that's why, you know, in a way I'm kind of glad I got second again. Because like, you know what I'm saying?

It validates the Vanguard one. So now it's like I have two MVP. Because, bro, think about it, the criteria was flipped. They were like, bro, so was just first seed, bro. And he was like, you know what I'm saying? They got every finals. I'm like, okay. I do the same thing.

But we were first seed with an event win. But I was just, so I have two MVPs. Well, actually three if you count B.O.4. Loki mold. My head. Wait, was there a year-long MVP in Black House 4? No, of course there wasn't one because they knew it on it. I swear to God, they just knew it.

They were like, we can't get it. And then the next year, we'll start adding it whenever you got benched shit, we're going to add it. Who is voting for that for MVP? Like the analyst. Is it just a list? There's like a team. Like a team behind the.

Pocket, nameless. So it's not players or? I don't know. I don't know. I think, yo, actually, I heard that players could vote. And I didn't know about this till after because I would have voted for myself for sure. But apparently you could vote. At least that's what a.

And it could be like friendships. I don't know. But like I did see a tweet. I don't know who was. I think it was actually from the. Daniel, Daniel, whatever. Daniel said. The CEO?

Yeah. Yeah, but like, he tweeted out like a graph of like how the ratings work. And I'm like, it's the ultimate blue ball. Because I already knew I didn't win it. So if I just saw that without me knowing that, I would be like, my God, it's going to be me. You know what I mean? Because I'm like, wait, the play. I don't know.

The player ratings. I still don't know what it is. I was like. Do you understand that, Matt? The player ratings thing? Okay. And I saw the fans and I was like, right? There's no way.

He's out. It's with the fans. I'm pretty sure the players. We got green wall juice here. Wait, pull up the graph real quick, I'm pretty sure I know what it is. At least someone told me. I don't think it is what I... Player ratings?

No, it was like how they determined the MVP or not. It was like the best four player ratings was like of the whole tournament was a booza 04 and I think you two. No, for the term. I was talking about like this, if like bring up a... I have that so you can vote for. Yeah, it was like some, I don't know how the player ratings. Yeah, like how does this work, bro? Oh, because, oh.

Oh, oh, did you see this? Never mind. This is not what I'm thinking of it. This is what I was saying, because, bro, how do the fuck does this work? Like, so all the players, there's no way that's true. You know what I'm saying? There has to be false. Team of the year.

Like, basically, like, I don't get that. I don't understand. Like, how do we all have won? Like, me, Mason, like, Ernie, you know what I'm saying? That's what I don't get. Yeah, this isn't making... This is fucking insane. Look at this. Talent Media 8.

They have me as 8. Yeah, that's absurd, by the way. Eight? They don't, I'm telling you right now, they don't know what the fuck they're watching. I think if you're wearing a green jersey, you just get, like... You're either juiced. You have 2-218. We got second every tournament.

What's that mean? We got second every talent slash media. What does that mean? Yeah, good shit. We made history. We had the only team ever. I don't know. I mean, obviously it wasn't like the perfect year because I'm that good or bad?

I don't know. Is eight good or bad? I don't know. Apparently it's not. It's terrible because look, I'm at 4.25. Yeah, but then if you go to my shit, like you would think that fucking, like how to fuck does that make sense? Oh, yeah. So, oh, yeah, 2-1-1-1-1.

On you? Wait, so we've done. It just means they have them at first place. Like, aren't they the ones giving up the award? When they make a top 10? Wait, did they give the word to someone else? I'm telling you,

and no and then they fucked up. They were like, yo, what the fuck? We thought you were. You were the opposite. We flipped it, bro. So you got on the top assault rifles team as the best assault rifle. And the guy who won second at one MVP. Yeah, yeah.

And then also we made, yo, that we were the first team to make every single final on the season. Obviously, yourself, one of that love. But I guess like the, regular coply season for sure yeah

I mean that's fucking what's what's what's what's mace's average placing I think it's

I think it's one point five I hit because he got third third fourth first first

I used to get fifth third fourth and then it's been top two ever since and I'm with a bunch of

first places you got three first and like four seconds my bad maize my bad I'm how old

me's I think his average place is like Well actually it might be like 1.8 What placing do you have to get to be like I'm fucking depressed Second You would rather get top six So just like

I'd rather get third 2026 I think third is actually the perfect Like ah we could have won this shit It's like not heartbreaking You get to see someone else To get their heartbroken But I think getting last is definitely AIDS

You don't want to always get last But I think our spree of bro That three seconds in a row was like I, yo, I could fucking, like, whenever I was talking about it, I was like, dude, I could relate to the fucking demons you're seeing it out in your head and shit. Oh, good from the Halo. Yeah. Because the fourth final is a lot different than the first one. Yeah.

Like, now you're just like, why does it feel like impossible to win almost sometimes? Yeah. Yeah. It's like breaking a curse at that point. He had a, I mean, that was a crazy. The Halo one was crazy. What was that? Like five events straight or something?

Yep. Or was it four? Do you remember how many times Halo? I think it was four or five. Because they also only got top. Lost track. They got top two. They got top two for like a year and a half.

Be like that. But only one like. Y'all have been teaming together how long? 20, yeah. Oh, only 22, four years? Who has the,

who in the league has been teaming together the longest? It used to be seven. That's like, InSight Kleenex. You guys are married, bro. They're still teaming Insight and Kleenex? Bro, since, uh,

bro, since Black Ops 4. They weren't even on Ultria. They were still team with each other. They knew. That's insane. 10 years. Bro, wait, yo, this is actually, yo, look up the series, Singularity versus Envy,

champs, B-O-4, and, yo, Kleenex is one-eating Pat. No bullshit. Right? Yo, you can tell Pat's like, holy fuck, these kids are teed now. Like, I actually do kids. Bro, Kleenex, look, they're really cracked in this game.

And they're still teaming? Yeah, and InSOT was on that team team. How long? Ready to take your investing knowledge to pro-level? This is Fidelity Connects, your daily edge in the markets. Get deep insights on real-time market topics that may impact your investment portfolio.

Listen to Fidelity Connects on Spotify today and power your next move tomorrow. What team are they on? Like eight years now, I think? Yeah, they might have been teaming even before that. That's just when we've not found out about them. You know what I'm saying? That's actually crazy.

Game battles and shit. Bro, they're running shit. They're just a team of two. Nice, James. They're looking for two. Nice, Jamie. And they play CS with each other sometimes. I've seen that.

What's y'all's favorite thing about each other? in game that the other person does. Yeah, I thought this was like, thank God he said that last brand. I'm like, and we can do outside of the game as well. I'm like, I love the way Ant walks in and I'm just like,

in game? In game, what's your favorite thing that Dashie does? Oh, and what's something do you wish he didn't do? Okay, my friend is like, I love one, he just, like, I spawn in, it's a free one.

I just like, he just does everything. I don't like when he jumps in the water. I'm like, dude, when he does this, he jumps in. I don't know, actually, I don't want to just like generalize it to that because you do have like literally hard carry moments that I don't even have to try, but it's more. I would love to be in your head whenever that Vanguard match happened. And it was like 16 and 1 or something.

Do you remember that shit? Yeah, and I'm just four. I'm literally like three and one. And I'm five hills and like, I don't know. We're up 150 points. And it hasn't said a word also. It didn't say a word, but I just know that if he's not coming. It's like crazy, it's like streak over the head.

I remember talking to you after you were like, what the fuck just happened? I think I texted you like, what do you even do when that's? You don't do anything. You don't do anything. You don't fuck it up. That's your most important role in the team is don't fucking out. Just don't fuck it up. Get in the hill, just like sit there, maybe team shoot a little bit.

It was great. So that's your favorite. What's a, I don't want to say least favorite. But what's a moment that Aunt might. do that you're like from this one yeah okay this is actually like those have to exist for shots

sometimes I'm just you know sometimes I'll get pissed because I'm like let's say if aunt dies to a player that's like just knows what he does because like bro the half the league is like fans of this guy and that's what it feels like they're always in a stream watching so then whenever he dies and he's like dude they knew I was gonna do that and I'm like yes they knew you were gonna do that

I knew you were gonna do that bro you know what I mean these guys are obviously shots eat they're looking you know what I mean like but that's kind of like the no that is sucks it's because right for everyone just oh my yeah yeah just We can talk about after. They just love seeing my shit.

For Brandon, I'd say, like, as an AR, because this is something that, like, not a lot of subs could, like, say, but Branden is literally just always producing damage. You know what you? Carry on. Because, like... So you get in fights in their week a lot of the time?

Yeah, exactly. Because, like, other ARs, like, they hide and shit, and they fucking, like, their value your life, where Brandon's, he's always showing. So, I'd say that's, like, the biggest... The biggest thing. That makes sense. Yeah, that's fun.

what's something he does dude what the fuck why aren't you I don't even you're fucking scaring player I am back then there was a lot more

now it's not even anything crazy if anything I'd probably say like rotated but like that's not even damn because only a chip yo I only wrote at a champ

exactly you only rotate a champ roads because I started that shit last year because last year I never wrote on this one hill it was actually like so funny didn't there was one hill that like

he never not that not that He would never rotate, but he wouldn't really give a fuck about it. P3 volt. Yeah, P3 volt. Like, he would, what would you do? I'd always go on that, because, bro, the whole entire street is the hill. So it's like, an AR is like paradise.

So, dude, it's so fun to just like, fucking just go there and square over and over. But then it was at Champs. And I'm like, I look at the Spons for this new one. And I was the only time I rotated it all year and it worked. Dude, no bullshit. I just look at Ann, I'm like, only rotate at champs. Like, just condition these guys and shit. It's just like, dude, if you had done that all year.

I'm like, Brett, it wouldn't work. That champs. That's true. That's true. You saved it. You had this crazy Trump card in your back pocket. I'm saying. Your crazy Trump card was rotate to the next hill.

And everyone's like, dude, you know what Bruce is going to do. I'm just like, do you? You have no idea. Wait, hey, so you won a, you won MVP in MW19, right? Yeah. Are you, do you get excited when new MWs come out? No. No?

Do you get excited anymore? I mean. I mean, not about Cods. I think I only enjoy competing, to be honest. All the same. Cod is literally... I just didn't know if, like, because I know... Like, I think I was excited in Cod until, like, fucking...

What was the year before this? Like, Black Cops 6? Yeah. That was, like, last time I was like, holy fuck. Yeah, Omnay shit. And then now it's just like... Just the same shit. Like, now that we're going to go to MW2 or like, whatever the fuck it is,

it's gonna... It's gonna... Like, we've already played that game, you know what I mean? The only thing that's gonna be different, like, the maps and shit, but... Yeah. I just... I remember watching your movement. I think you were the first person to figure out on Gun Runner to slide through that.

Oh, yeah. And when I saw the clip of you doing that, I was like, what the fuck? I remember Hector would always fucking tell me about that shit. And so, like, I didn't know. And I remember, I think it was the S&D in Champs in Model Warfare III. when you the crowd popped off when you went up

top broken the way you got up to top broken you climbed some shit oh yeah yeah yeah yeah the crowd popped off there wasn't even to kill you that's so far though and he just popped off

because of your movement to get to top broken and I was like damn yo no bullshit as a pro whenever you hear that and you don't see anything you know there hasn't been

a single gunshot like nothing and you hear the crowd going off you're like you already kind of know what's happening you're like somebody is doing yeah they're like Is he ready behind us?

Is he just floating in the air? Is he behind us? I know that the other team's like, he could be anywhere. Freeze. All right, before we sign off, are y'all happy about the season? We still got one more event,

EWC. That's what it's, yeah, EWC. Yeah, for such a legendary season. In my eyes, great season. If I had y'all season in my day, fucking I'm a god.

It's a weird, it's a weirdly legendary. season. I don't know. How do you look at this season? Depends how your DVC goes. Okay. Fair enough.

Even then, I don't know. I still want more, but... We obviously... Even at 30. Even at 30. In your 30s, man. How you still doing it, man? Keep up with this case.

All right, that's going to do it for us. On a flycast, thank you guys for joining. I hope you enjoy the episode. Matt, Greg. Play the outro music. Yeah.