The Flycast - The OpTic Blackout (The Flycast #016)

Episode Date: March 21, 2018

The OpTic Blackout (The Flycast #016) by The Flycast

Another flycatcher. Because we just did one last two weeks ago. Here we are. Yeah. So last time we talked literally the entire hour. It might even be. How long was their last one? It was like it might have been even like an hour and a half.

It was long. And I think the entire time we talked about Ninja. And that was when Ninja was when Ninja was. getting close to hitting 100,000 subscribers. Oh. Yeah. So what's he at now?

You know, he's kind of falling off a little bit. He's at 200,000 subscribers. Is that two? Yeah. Jeez. Last time I checked he was at like 170? When's it going to stop? I don't know.

I don't know. And you got to, like, I'm kind of like tiring myself out talking about it because we talked about it in the fly cast. Yeah. I feel like we talked about this We talked to the Flycast And we talked about it today And the Optic podcast

That's what we talked about Yeah And it's literally all we talked about Like even in the In the optic podcast You guys were like talking about Cod and shit So it's like

You know I don't really You guys were saying Like names And the Minecraft and shit Yeah I didn't know what you were talking about And then you started talking about

Ninja and that was literally Just like Yeah I think you probably said 20 words Mac The whole, what was it, for 50-minute podcast. Yeah. So.

You guys could have done without me on that one. Yeah. I think so, too. Also, because, yeah, we weren't talking about anything that you. At least for Jack's, like, first. Yeah. First podcast, because that's just going to be like Jack story and call a dude. Yeah.

I do think that the Optic podcast should have at least two of the four of us on there. Yeah. Because the four of us, like, I think we can drive. Yeah. Because I saw, I saw, I didn't really listen to it. But one of the podcasts with like hacks and like two of, I think it might have been two of the PubG players. Yeah. But it was just like, not to say it's like so boring, but like, but like their, their conversations are just like.

Just the way you said that was such a shot. Not to say it was so boring. No. But like, well, I don't know. Maybe it's just what I'm, I could be wrong. But what I am interested, I always feel like this. Whatever I'm interested in, everyone else is interested. Yeah.

Like, I don't want to hear the PubG people and Hacks talk about like PubG and like, yeah, optic shit or something. I want to hear like, if the PubG guys like go out. Exactly. When they go to events or like, what do they do when they don't play? what they do before it and show like that. And I think that's always been kind of the

thing with Optic the Optic podcast is that Hex wanted it to be another H3H3 podcast or whatever. It's just where you know he's kind of the host and then come on and we talk about whatever. No Snapple. You didn't sponsor shit. Put that Red Bull down.

I think I do I do have some emails. Do you? Not really. I think the same guy hit me back. I think he watches every five. Every five guys. I still have to make the email. H3H3H3.

Yeah, HX just wanted the optic podcast to be like the H3H3 podcast where he comes on and talks about whatever, you know, just with, with optics. Yeah, like we don't talk about like op-

well, we do sometimes, but there's kind of like the fans kind of are like, you know, why do I want to hear about you guys talking about you guys talking about optic stuff. And then he'd bring on some optic people like the Cod team and he'd talk about other stuff that wasn't Cod and they'd be like, wait, why aren't you talking about Cod? So then he'd bring it on the PubG team.

But how I how I think it should be is just they talk about whatever. Like they don't they shouldn't talk about like they shouldn't just like hone in on on East yeah, I don't know. It just seemed it seems like an interview. That's what people were saying. It seems like the last two like podcasts seem like hex interviews. which is why this I don't know well that's kind of how Hex

I mean it's hard for him though because he's just it's him like he has to make it work yeah yeah for sure like at the end of the day the people he's doing it with are like

just gamers yeah like they're the most exciting people in the world so it's hard to I guess keep forming like new ideas

to talk about And Hex always talks about how he's so good at podcasts, but Hex is good at interviewing. If you think about it. Hax is good at bullshit. I was thinking, I was, whenever, I guess we're allowed to say this today and like the, well, like our meeting today. Yeah. Well, it wasn't a meeting. Oh, dude, he was on another level today.

I was just like, I was just like, he's good at making himself sound good. Yeah. Dude, he was on some other shit today. He said something and I was just like to him like, I was thinking, please don't tell me like the DXRacer people are sitting there like, this guy knows what he's talking about. I mean,

I'm not saying he doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm just saying he's like extra. Yeah. Oh, extra. Extra is a perfect word. Extra, extra. He like, he has to,

if there's a room that doesn't know about his ego, he has to throw it out there. And he'll admit that. It's not like we're talking shit behind his back. He watches all. He's a huge. fan of the flight he's a fan he's a super fan like if you want to subscribe and shout it out and get us a spot so what else has been up dude uh have i talked about my dog yet because that's been in

you haven't not on the fly cast that's that's yeah how's that's that's that's that's yeah how's that's that's it's like a little kid it is it is she uh she paid she paid for the whole thing so it's technically her dog But I, you know, obviously going to take care of it and stuff. It's like sire. Oh, yeah. Even though I don't. I just make sure he doesn't die. I'm just like, no, don't do that.

No. Don't come outside because if I had a cat, I would let it outside. Yeah. Aaron's so, like, protected. Does he? Does he like a little dad? Is he a little dad? Yeah.

Wait, so you would let your cat outside? Like on the bow. can he? Oh, you don't think he would run away. I would test it and just see if he does. That's true. We let Paris on the porch. First of all, did you know that Banks has a dog? Did you know that it's the same breed as my dog? No. Did you know that its name is Paris? Nah. What? Found that out. What? That's crazy. Yeah, we brought it home and then like a couple days later, they were like, oh, wow, you're trying to be banks. And I was like, I haven't talked. I haven't talked. talk to, heard from,

and you're just like, what does that even mean? Yeah, exactly. Turns out Banks and Alyssa, his girlfriend, Abissa Violet, they got,

Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. They got two French bulldogs. The rumor is they spent $25,000 on it. So I don't know where the hell they bought it from. For them? That's it? Yeah,

but for dogs, I don't know. That's not, no. Two of Paris would not equal that. But, one of them's name is Paris and the other one's name is London.

Oh, wow. Yeah. I like the name. It fits them perfectly. Super extra, super bougie. I like it. Cloudy-like. Cloud dogs.

Cloud dogs. Bull clout. So what do you think about the change that we've seen lately? I don't know if you can feel it as much as I feel it. I'm trying to think of the last podcast.

The last podcast was before the Twitter stuff. Wait. It was before the Halo team. No, I was. Yeah, it was. Remember what we had to cut? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, okay. So I can tell them that's why we had to cut. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, okay. I don't even, I just didn't remember when the last podcast we did was. but or what we talked about. But yeah, if you guys did watch the last podcast,

we did some, there was some random cut. The first time in Flycast history. Yeah, first time in Flycast history, we had to make a cut. Yeah. Because I said, what, how did I go? Okay, so we were talking about

how you were working out or whatever. Yeah. And then I said, and then out of nowhere, like, I was like, you need to get back in the gym or whatnot. And then I said, when is snake bite coming back. And I said it before I thought about it

because we knew that, you know, we had known the frustrations from because we're close friends with snakebite and uh tj and so we knew the frustrations with what was going on behind the scenes but we didn't know that it was as extreme as it was so we knew that they were they were negotiating their contract and it had been a very long period of time and and PJ had kind of like insinuated like you know i might not be coming back ha ha ha joke joke but it turns out you know it wasn't really joking it was like I mean, we just knew it was not good. Yeah.

Usually when we're negotiating or when negotiating contracts happens, it's like the thought of them not being here. Like the negotiation not working out doesn't really like come into your head. But for this one, for the Halo team, we knew like they're negotiating. But like it was getting bad. Yeah. It doesn't seem like it's working out. Yeah. And so I said when is snake bite coming back?

And then we both looked at each other and we tried, we tried hard. What did I say though? I said something like, you said, oh, well, you know, he's just, he's gonna, he's. I feel like I said something bad though, where it's like there was no turning back. Oh, did you? Yeah. I was like, I said something bad and I was like, I can't even like turn that one around. It was just so funny.

I'll have to, if I still have the footage, I should play it. That would be. Yeah, we started dying. If I started the flight. What if that's the intro clip? to the to the flycast i feel like that would be funny yeah they'd probably be like what the fuck's going on maybe yeah but um yeah then then out of nowhere or then without us even hearing anything we woke up one day and i texted in a group chat it was like yo snake bite how are you guys

going he said not good man we're getting released later today yeah i forget how i found out probably just waking up and seeing it in the group chat. I forgot you were AWOL that whole day basically that whole Thursday. I was what? You were AFK away away from AFP. What's AWOL? A-W-Gone AWOL. I think I use that right.

Now I'm like second-guessing myself, AWOL? You're like A-WOL. It means like you're away like you're like you can't like no one's heard from you. Like you're nowhere to be seen. I think. I've heard it somewhere. I just don't remember where. I also don't know how to...

Absent from one's post, but without intent to desert. That's a... Okay, I was AWOL. Yeah, you were AWOL. So what does happen? The Halo team got dropped. I feel like something else happened.

Blackout? Yeah. That was the same day. Black Thursday. So it's been deemed. then just a bunch of like a bunch of not really stressful days for you kind of stressful days for me

because I'm the weakest link within Optic so they're like, yo Hitch tell us what's going on and I'm like, okay, then I think about it and I can't say that. But then we went to Atlanta. Yep. And then we came back and now we're here. Atlanta was the blackout.

Yeah, it was a while. It was the middle of, everything so I don't know where you want to take this conversation I don't know go for it I don't know um let's start I'm sad about the Ava team um I think I've been downhill since you have been since PJ left I've been downhill it was so nice to have someone to wake up yeah I'd wake up 930 we're walking to the gym at 10 yeah and it's like if I don't if I'm like, no, I'm not going.

I never, I don't think I really ever told PJ, no, I'm not going today. It was always just like, not a, I can't say no to PJ. Yeah, it's not a no, I can't let PJ down, but it's like, something along. Like, if he's up and willing to go, I'm up and willing to go. Kind of like that. I wish that's how it was for the flycast with me. That was only this past week. Yeah, I guess we can say week.

So what has this whole thing been like from your side? Because you've always kind of been the chill. I've always been way too involved and you've always been the opposite, like way too not involved. So I like people hearing my side of it would kind of be like, it would be like, okay, it's just hitch. I mean, it definitely, they're all my friends. And I can see why. I can see why the Halo team would be dropped. Yeah

Only from a financial Like maybe if you look at the numbers And be like All right what How much are we spending on the Halo team How much do we think we're kind of getting from the Halo team They could just be like it's not worth it Yeah

The RLI It's not there What does that mean? Return on investment Okay That's just what That's what everybody keeps saying Yeah you've been in the office

I could see I could see that, but even then, I don't think it was just the, it was the worst timing ever. Yeah. For like it was, I think it was a bad decision. I think so. I mean, I'll openly say I think so too. I think it was a bad decision just even from a business standpoint. Yeah, I do too.

Let alone the fucking like culture of optic. Because as much as ROI makes sense in everything, like you have to... You got to think about that for the long term and like... Yeah. Like, we could afford to like keep them... Like, we just moved here. Snake By just moved here. Yeah, exactly.

The Halo team was gonna move here. And it was like, shit. Like, we could have made that last longer for sure. And it's like, Optic wasn't... Optic wasn't TSM. They didn't come in in League of Legends and happen to get a League of Legends. and that was really good and win everything and become a dynasty in e-sports. They came in in Cod, like Call the Duty.

That's arguably, it's only literally, it's only had two good years in esports history, like, ever. Like, viewership-wise, it's only, like, Black Ups 2 and Ghosts were, like, the only two good years that they've, it's ever had. And, you know, they got, they blew up in, in Black Ops 2, but also in Monorfer 3, like, Scump and Nade were getting a shit ton of viewers. and that's all because of the personality and what was Optic. So like, where's the, like, you can't really, in my opinion,

and I don't know anything about, like, really what's going on, but you can't put like a, you can't put a value on number on that. Like, like, and I know these guys weren't involved a lot in,

like, content and stuff, but that's because, in my opinion, we hadn't, like, like, content is just now getting good,

in my opinion. Like, there was, there was like a week, like, it was like two months. honestly like three to four months of just like what the hell is going on no it's like weird videos being uploaded and i feel like the first the or the optic plays we did with the yeah gang gang

gang beasts yeah i think that was like the first video on the right track of like what we actually envisioned a year ago yeah i agree so and it's kind of like that that video or something Well, actually, I would say that video, but I think it's more of Jack joining, because Jack also joined. We haven't talked about that. Yeah, true. I think Jack joining put us on the right track that I knew it would because he came into this. Like, like, you both sides, this bickering and this nonsense, like, shut up. It's stupid.

And ever since he's come in, like, how many people have you met in the office? Like, I've met like 20 to 30 people in the office ever since he came. Yeah. I don't, I feel like it's like, did they have a meeting and we're like, hey guys. Yeah, they did. The content creators feel like they come in. It's weird. Yeah.

So if you see them, I say, what's up? Because I swear everyone I walk by. What's up, Nick? Yeah. I literally think they had that meeting. But I'm just like, I know some of them are probably listening to this, maybe. Yeah, probably. But don't, I don't want to say, don't say what's up to me when I've never.

met you, but like introduce yourself. Yeah. It's not too weird to be like, hey, I know we've seen each other for four months straight and I've never introduced myself. So hi. Well, even like most of them, I've never, not never really seen, but like never like, like maybe I walk past his desk or something. Yeah, yeah. But like, I don't know if you're going to like come up to me or like say something to me, like be like, hey, what's like, I work in this one of 20 companies. I don't know. Just fucking. Yeah. And to like introduce yourself, I guess. To counter the negative comments that somebody's already typing up right now so you can go

ahead and start hitting backspace is the reason that we don't introduce ourselves to all these people is because we're walking into and to, uh, we, like when we came into this office, we walked into a space full of, you know, 30 to 50 people that we've never met before. So I have a bad job of introducing myself to just a few people, but introducing myself. to everyone like that would be a little hard yeah the only person that can do that is Mike which is why he's so good yeah yeah that is true he can just like it's like a butterfly everyone literally at the gym with him like a week ago and he just like made friends with some old dude somehow gets in a conversation with him i have no idea how but every time yeah he always does something yeah so i feel like i feel like ever since

Jack, because Jack joined and while he, in the, in the process of him joining, he moved in, he had videos prepared. He did the, he worked with our graphic design team to get new overlays, to get new, um, new, all like the Twitter header and stuff. He worked with, um, the apparel team that works here and he got a new custom shirt to drop on the day that it launched. He worked with, you know, custom people to get those dope-ass like transitions on his stream, you know, like Dr. Disrespect Has and stuff. And he did all of that. And he worked with half people in here that I'd never even talked to before, you know, we had even been introduced to them. And it's like, as nobody's fault, it's just like growing pains or whatever. But it's just, I'm glad that Jack joined.

It's just because it's been weird since the beginning. It has been, yeah. But I'm really glad Jack Joyne. I'm glad Jack Joy until like... Well, I think you cut off because I talk too much, but that's just our... Maybe, but then like, there's, I always see comments where I think even in the Optic podcast, someone might have said it. The one we do with a snake bite?

Maybe. But yeah, people, I always see in, well, not always, but people will in the comments, but Baniacs, stop cutting people off. Learn to fucking talk. Some shit. Yeah. Just get verbaled. Wait, what were we talking about?

Exactly. So Jack. Okay, Jack. I literally figured out. I was trying to put out the timeline. So Jack joins. We, everyone that was involved in the blackout or whatever goes to CW. Atlanta, everybody. And then Jack is in the offices for three days.

He tells them, it's like, yo, it's ridiculous on both sides. Let's get together. They have a meeting where they were like, hey, how about we start introducing ourselves to the content creators and maybe they'll stop, you know, acting Hollywood. And so that's what happened. And then after that, you know, we, we come back and it's like we do that dope optic plays video and then we have a, we have a content meeting where we talk about what we're going to do to fix content because it's like without like, in all honesty, it's kind of like broken right now. Yeah.

And then what we're going to do in the future. And then I've been talking with like apparel people for my personal. We were involved in a sponsorship meeting today where we actually have say on what's going forward. So I feel like it's, you know, it's taking the right. I feel like we weren't like expecting too much. We just want to be involved the same way that optics always had everybody involved in like everything, you know? Yeah. So I feel like things are looking up.

Today was the first day. Like after all that happened. where I was like, all right, like, this could be dope. Maybe they thought we didn't want to be involved in that way. Maybe. Like, I just think there's so many people that were brought on in this transition that, you know, and it's not a bad thing at all, but there's so many people that didn't know what optic was. Like they were bringing, they were coming on to this.

And like I talked to the first designer, you know, the guy that made the first design and the DX Racer thing. Wait, which one? The black guy? Yeah. Yeah. So I talked to, or I didn't talk to him, but Hex had talked to him, and I say what's up to him all the time.

And he was an optic fan. And it was very few of those people. I mean, we walk in and I remember one time he was just watching Hex's vlog. Yeah. Yeah. So he was an optic fan. And there's very few of those people that were optic fans that work in the office. And so he was just like, I don't, I don't really know what's going on.

What's weird is like, he like stands out to me. Yeah. Like he just seems like cool, I guess. Yeah, same. He's like, I was going to say something like probably. I was going to say, he's like the only one I want to talk to. I was one. I was trying not to like break.

No, I get that as well. But there's a couple of people like that, you know, that I just talked to him. Like some of the GGA guys come up to me and they're like, it's crazy. They'll talk to me and they say, you know, I watch your room. don't even know what that is. GGEA? It's the Academy. But I still don't even know what that is.

So they bring on... I know what they do, but I like don't get it. What don't you get? I can try to explain it to you. Like I know what they're doing. But I don't know. It's just weird. It's like why is it not...

It's almost like not a why are they here, but like what is the point, I guess? Like how are they going to get their ROI? I guess because they're not like documenting it. And like I thought that was going to be the point to like document that and like show people practicing. Well, everything right now for all of these companies is like is like the basis of getting their foot in the door. So GGA is just like they're, you know, they're bringing on these teams, training them, giving them a place to boot camp and then sending them off. And then, you know, hopefully train them enough so where they get picked up by an actual.

organ, like a big organization. And then they would, you know, buy the team from GGA. But also in the future, way down the road, like GGEA could also put, throw together like summer camps, like for kids where they come and play video games for a week. And then they play competitively against each other. It would be like, you know, like a soccer camp. And then, you know, at that point, they could work with Engage or, yeah, they can work with Engage, which is our other company that throws events.

So then that's like the cool part of all of these companies like involved. And then like no scope could come in and make like an optic, you know, optic summer camp video. And I don't know. I just and then sorry, I'm like in a thousand places at one time. But then also no scope, you know, right now is focused on outlaws and optic. But they could in the in the future, whenever they get that locked down, they could focus on all these other stuff like Obey Alliance, you know, working on GGA stuff. they could get, you know, they could get hired for other companies as well. So everything right now is like really grassroots, really base, and they all have room to grow, which I think is super dope.

And I have no idea what we were talking about prior to that. Prior to GGE. Yeah, because I brought it up and you said, I don't even know what that is. Oh, some of the GGE guys will come up and talk to me in the office. Yeah. Jack. Some of them we're talking about some of the GGA guys have come up to me and there's just been like you know

I watch you around the bar the one that like caused all those issues or whatever and they're like and I'm sorry it caused all those issues but I'm really like

I'm really happy that you said something about GGA because nobody said anything about it yet and I said something I said GGA and Engage are doing

really awesome things and I said that and at the time I was like super like frustrated with what was happening in Noscope but I didn't say it but now I think

no scope on the right track as well. And I think literally all it is is fucking communication, man. It's all it was the whole time. It was really badly, like, managed, I guess. Yeah.

Just having, it was just such a shit show. Yeah. It was nothing like we were envisioning. That's, and I, yeah, I think that's also, that's our side. When Jack came in and said, both you guys are being stupid, I think it's,

I feel like we, always knew that though. At least I did, that we were always stupid. Or both sides are being... I mean, I... Coming from Aaron and I's perspective where we were actually employees of NoScope

you know, for a little bit, um, it's, I think, yeah, you guys were being... But I understand both sides of it. What do you mean us? Like the content creators. Y'all were being divas. About what? Or maybe, maybe it wasn't you guys. Well, for a little bit, there was,

I'm talent, I'm talent. And me and Aaron were still grinding to set everything. Well, that was just the fucking fuck with you all. I understand that. But maybe I understood what was actually happening quicker than everybody else because I was an employee, obviously. And so I knew it was happening. And so it kind of took what I realized right off the bat. Everyone else kind of realized over a two-month span.

And it didn't end up pretty pretty. But I think that's... what I'm saying like like Jack said because Jack came on because what we're going through is nothing compared to what well I can't say nothing because it's still a big deal but Jack went through crazy changes with MLG because the same way we were with Optic Jack was with MLG and the same way we went through these changes. Activision bought MLG and then changed everything. Did like the same thing that happened here I guess. Yeah, so Jack comes in here knowing that it's an issue. And he'll tell you it was a lot more serious than he thought it was going to be because he was like, oh, everybody's just being dumb.

Like, y'all figure it out. And then he got here and he was like, okay. We could still do this, though. Yeah. But I can't imagine. Like, he told me all the stuff that, like, he had, that they had to change over at MLG. And I hope I'm not like, not supposed to say something. but they they were doing they like they did like the star spangled banner before like an

MLG event like that's how they opened the event everybody was kind of like yeah like some weird stuff see that's like some shit that I could I could see like happening here yeah exactly like we don't do that here yeah that's what he said it's just it's people that came in and said you know they do this they do this at NBA games we should start doing it here yeah it's just like but we're not in the NBA. And that's kind of what happened here. It's like we have these like thumbnails, but it's like we're not Minecraft YouTubers.

Yeah. Like that's maybe every so often for like your personal channel. Yeah. Yeah. So I feel like I feel like slowly but surely it's it's coming along. Yeah. Is that how you feel? Yeah.

Really it's just communication because we had like none. Like we just had a. meeting the other day where we pretty much sat down and we're just like just our execution on shit is terrible and like no one's no one like this person's coming up with an idea and then saying we're doing this video and then this group is like this idea sucks but sure we'll do it anyways instead of being like hey what about what do you guys think about this we're like yeah that's good yeah what do you think about that no that's bad yeah we're gonna the Halo team.

You should have told us. We would have told you not to. Yeah. And I think that's, I think that's the issue because it could have been fixed so easy. And this is what. There was just like, like people,

people were making decisions and it was literally like two people, two or three people in this corner, making the decisions for everyone, Instead of being like, hey, hey, guys, these three people, because if you're watching on YouTube, at least, there's three people in this quarter. They're just making the decisions that affect everyone. Yeah. And instead of being like, hey, what do you guys? Yeah.

This might go down. And what do you guys think? And hopefully this might just me being. Because we would have just been like, no, it's not a good idea right now. Yeah, exactly. And this could just be me being. optimistic or whatnot, but I feel like, like, like once they understand like, okay, this, because this, this thing wasn't just like a, like this could have happened with any organization,

this infinite thing. It just happened to happen because it was, it was a, it was in the works prior to optic like saying, hey, we, we could do this. So they could have done it. I think how they're running things could have worked perfectly with any other organization. If they did it with phase, if they did with anybody. But the fact that the optic fans have are accustomed to knowing way too much about what's going on. And that's because like that's how, you know, that's how optics always been run. They're, they're, they're accustomed to seeing who's doing what.

They know, knowing who to go to if they, you know, either want to praise something or bash something. And now there's so much shit going on. And, and all these optic fans still, they're just like, I'll, I want to know, like, where, who is doing what? And I don't think they were prepared for that. And they weren't prepared for, you know, all the decisions and all the, the, the responses, whether it was backlash or praise, that was going to be happening for all these decisions.

And I think that's the thing. And with communication, like, like you said, and this is like what, you know, Hex was talking to me about, is like, if they said, hey, you know, we're gonna we're thinking about getting away from halo and if we said no like you can't like if if this was at one two three five if this was at the scuff house yeah uh like hex would hex would pull up yeah fucking opens the door slam it i'd be in my room be like fuck hex this year go downstairs and hex would probably like start a you know just be talking yeah mentioned about the Halo team and we'd like nah yeah like he'd be like I think we got to get rid

the Halo team and then like we would chime in and be like no I don't think that's a good idea right now but just like talk about it and he'd get like other people's opinions not that he like not that he would come to the scuff house to get opinions from us but it's just like as friends we would talk about it and you guys because we're like all a part of it in the big picture and Like even you guys, I say you guys because I went to all these events and you guys didn't. But like you, like you guys, like I remember he was talking with Pomage and you, I think, about what was happening with Mixwell and about how Mixwell wanted to leave, you know, but the only reason he wanted to stay is because he loved Optic.

And you guys were just like, well, you know, you know, maybe you just let him compete in Spain or you guys just, what you guys would say, well, maybe you keep him on, but, uh, or maybe you let him go off of the team, but keep him on with Optic unless until he had the night. other team for like content or whatnot. Like you guys were like telling him stuff about like counter strike, like stuff that you guys weren't like, you know, you, like you never played counter strike. You don't know anything about the competitive scene, you know, that I know of. But it was still like this communal like discussion, I guess, but everyone.

It was just what would be best. Yeah. And I feel like in the beginning of our move here went from. I don't know. What the heck? Like sometimes I just wonder like what were they thinking? With, or like what are they thinking?

With what? With the people that. Not just specifically the Halo team. Yeah. But it just seemed like I don't know. Just bad decisions being made. And even some like people don't know about. Yeah.

That we actually or that did get nixed somehow. Yeah. And, uh, you know, And I think, I don't know. I don't know if that's like hard for people to swallow. It's just that like, hey, like we've always done this together. Like, can we like, obviously things are going to change. Like when you go from three employees, me Hex and Jay, and then people and then what, like seven members,

whenever you go from that to, you know, 80 employees, things are going to change. Obviously, there's going to be growing pains. There's going to be weird stuff that happens. but I feel like there is a perfect world where it can still be done together. Like it can still be a conversation between everyone. And if they come to it, if they come to us or they come to whatever team

and they say, hey, we can't do this because of this reason, then we'll say, okay. Or we'll say, well, here's a fix for that reason. And I feel like there were thousands of fixes for what could have happened with the Halo team. like if if if there's a number out there we're optic man like like like that's what hex was saying like if if there's not a return from halo and and we and i think we still need a need no there's a place for this team in optic and there's a place for these personalities that we've built with an optic um then there are other places to get the revenue in order to pay i don't even think like there's i don't know what it was i don't know there's even like a lot of stuff Stuff just doesn't, and didn't make sense. There's even like two-month deals.

Like, like, some of these, some of these sponsors that Opta has gotten weren't even, like, sponsor. They were, they were, like, three-month deals or two-month deals. There's even, like, there's even, like, promotion, like, I don't know, were you on the FaceTime one time when you heard Will and Nate shot talking? And he was talking about different deals that, I don't want to say the person's name, but Nate knows someone who is not the biggest person on, like, social media. and this person got an Instagram deal for X number of dollars, and I was like, what?

And that Instagram deal could have paid for the Halo team for a year. That's what I'm saying. Like, there are other ways, in my opinion. That's what we would have said. And the thing is... That's why I don't even think it was a revenue thing or return on ROI. I don't even think it was like R.O.I. I don't...

But I don't... But if it wasn't that, it's like, then what could it have been? been. But, yeah. I've, I mean, I've heard other rumors, too, not within the office, but like from other people. It's like trying to get out of like overly violent games. Yeah.

Or like console in general. But like, I don't know. And that's why I bring back the nature thing. It's like, Optic wasn't made. Optic wasn't an esports. Optic isn't an esports organization. It might be now within the past three months. But it's a, it's a entertainment content.

based org. And, you know, you can say what you want about the last year and a half of Optic with like the lack of content and whatnot in people's personal channels. But at the end of the day, you know, more people watch vision than watch any of those tournaments. You know, if a hundred, the last, the last vision got 100,000 views. And during the matches, there was like 15,000 people watching. So there's more people watching the content within or with content within Optic than watching the actual esport itself. So it's an entertain. It should be, it should be viewed that way. And that's always been

my opinion on it. So. But I guess the good thing is we did go through it was a shit show. Yeah. The blackout happened, everything. And we, I think we've come to an agreement as a whole. Yeah. Of how like we should be handling things now. Communication and just I think we're more onto the right track. Like I think this whole idea was the right track.

But we kind of fucked it up. But I still think we're kind of fucked it up. We just, we're going to learn as we go. It is, it is crazy that like, I don't know, I didn't expect. I didn't expect. I, it wasn't fun. Like, say what you want about some, some of the stuff that's happened. Like, you know, whenever I was going through my thing or whenever Aaron was going

through his thing. And, and, like, you would be like, oh, Hitch loves this. You know, just like being involved. Oh, Hitch loves stress and drama. Yeah. You would say that. I did. And I, I, there's a part of me that can agree with you.

Like, I can, I can swallow that pill and say, yeah. I, I, I, you do. I like that, I guess. I like being involved. I like having something to talk about. It's just like. like, all right you go.

But this, this thing, the blackout thing, I didn't like it at all. What do you mean? You didn't like it? I don't know like anyone liked it. Exactly.

Just like you said, like, oh, Hitch loves being involved in like drama or whatever. Well, I mean like, all right, it's for the blackout thing, for instance.

Like I, when I say you love drama and shit, I mean, when the blackout happened, you love, like, I feel like you, loved blacking out your shit to be to like be like to just like be involved in the drop like

but I was sitting there I was like God seriously and I was and I did it literally just it's a bad like subject I guess to like make turn into a joke because the blackout's supposed to be like rioting for the Halo team or whatever I guess whatever it I don't whatever it even was but I did it just to literally, like, not troll, but like, just like, I don't know, it's just funny to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get that. But that's what I'm saying is like, whenever the, the, around the bar video came out and I was like, you know, and like, I was pissed about a lot of stuff. And like, I was tweeting like a little girl. Like, yeah, I'll give it to you on that. But even like blacking out my stuff and like seeing the, seeing everything that was going on, like, I was like, this is too.

much like I don't I don't like this at all like I want this to change immediately. They're like you know and I I I mean I guess remember when you called me like or you texted me maybe called me but you were like meet and this was like right as I got the new keys to the new apartment. Yeah you're like can we can we talk at your place meet me here. Don't tell Aaron. Yeah don't tell Aaron I like sneak out of the apartment. Yeah and we just starting a shit show. And I think, yeah. And that's when I was like, I don't like, that was, that moment was when I was like,

all right, I don't like this. Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, things have got, things have gotten so much better. Yeah. Like, things are looking very up and. It's because you detoxed.

Because of the juice cleanse. Yeah. You're feeling good. Maybe. I need a detox. Dude, it's hard. As in, I want to do it. Hard as in, I didn't finish it.

I went two days. Tis, tis. Sam went two and a half. And the only reason she ate on the third day is because I said, eat this. But for you guys that don't know what I'm talking about, I did a juice cleanse. There's like something on Uber Eats here. It's called Buddha Juice. Uber Eats.

Yeah, that's how we got it. Ordered it off at Uber Eats. They'll deliver it to you in like 20 minutes? Yeah. What the hell? Yeah, that's how I got. I thought I had to like order this shit online. No, I got on Uber Eats.

I'm about to do this shit tomorrow. So, well, for the love of God, don't do what I did. And try to eat lightly for like a day or a day or two before you start it. Because we pigged out before we started it. Like we were eating pizza and like milkshakes and stuff. Like, why? Because then whenever you like eat light for a little bit and, then you go into a juice cleanse. Like it's not as much of a shock to your body. But I got hit with like,

oh, I would be shocked. Dude, I got hit with like withdrawal, dude. Because not only, fat withdrawal. Yeah, well, you can't because there's no sugar. There's no caffeine because you can't have caffeine on the side. You just drink water and you drink these juices. And then, um, and then if you get like lightheaded, you can have nuts or fruit. So the first day, I did the whole day. and then I ate half of a banana and some pistachios because I was like, this shit sucks. Then I woke up the next day. Were you just starving?

Not really. Not really. You don't get starving. Well, think about this. I thought it was gross and I can't smell. So I can't taste it. And I thought it was gross. So it's got to be terrible.

It's got to be horrible. There's a, because there's a breakfast and the breakfast is not that bad. Then there's two snacks. And the snacks are actually pretty good juices. They're like blue raspberry, but they're green. I don't know. And there's the lunch is beat juice, which is terrible.

Oh my, I like, I don't even have to plug my nose. I don't have to plug my nose, but I did anyway. What? I was like, put it down the drain. And then, and then you also drink a soup. And it's like a cold, like, chunky soup and you drink for supper. And then after supper, there's like a. cinnamon almond milk for dessert.

So that's, and you get, then you get it all in a bag, you get those six, and then they give you three of them because it's a three-day cleanse. Or I got the three-day cleanse. Hmm. I got to look into the health benefits. You should probably do the two-day cleanse. I didn't know, like, getting something out of it. Yeah.

But, you know, so I just had sugar and caffeine, like literally drinking energy drinks and coffee every single day up until the point. And then I just stopped. And, dude, I was literally bedridden. the second day. I did the whole first day, okay, and then the second day is when the, like, headaches started. So I had to have had a lack of, like a sugar withdrawal headache and a caffeine withdrawal headache at the same time. Have you ever had a colonoscopy? What?

There's a point to this. Dude, if you can read my mind right now, it just went, what the fuck? No, I haven't. Because I, well, it's... Wait, is that the... What happens there? Where they stick a tube up your butt and like look at stuff? I've only had the finger, the fingers.

Not the tube. But anyways, before my colonoscopy, I couldn't eat for 24 hours. So I just imagine that's how you felt. But as far as just like, yeah, I couldn't eat for 24 hours before my colonoscopy. And just, I was miserable. Yeah. Like, I felt like I, like, had the flu almost. Yeah.

Just, like, so my body hurt. Yeah. Head hurt. Oh, dude. I was, like, I was shaking. I had, like, the cold sweats. Like, it was bad. Yeah.

Like, do you remember? And that's why I wasn't in the gang beast video. Did I say eat and drink? No. Couldn't eat or drink. What? Yeah. You could have water?

No. Holy shit. Yeah. Dude. It was terrible. Did you, like, your mouth out with water or something like I think I like it was like 4 a.m. and I think my appointment was at like seven or eight to get it done right and I think I

like ended up taking sips of water wow but it was it was bad damn that's terrible I forgot what I was going to say because that's terrible I don't know but I want to do it yeah you want to do it well because it's like pretty pricey so regardless Hardless, I, like, ever since then, Sam and I have been eating a lot healthier and we've signed up for the... How much is it for one? It's like two... Oh, one day? One person for three day?

Three days, like $200. Okay. But that's, if you got to, if you think about it, that's three days of meals for $200. It's like not that bad, I guess. Yeah, it's not. Six, six drinks. I mean, for a normal person, yes. But for us idiots.

that eat out every day regardless. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it was, it was an experience. The reason we did it is because Frosty's girlfriend tweeted out that her and Brad did it. And they were like, oh, it was a great experience. And I was like, oh, this is going to be awesome. Like, we're just going to drink juice and like have a hunky-dory time.

Honky-dory? Wasn't that. Did you shit a lot? No. Really? I peed. I feel like all the fiber in there with, like, flush your gunk of food that you found.

I mean, kind of did that. Maybe in like the first day or something. I didn't go a lot, but when I went, there was stuff that came out. I haven't had good shits lately. Yeah, it has to do with water, right? Shits? Like, if you have bad shit, you need to drink more water.

Yeah. Yeah. Like what I, the best thing to do is wake up. I haven't been drinking water lately I'm fucking up I mean not enough I've been drinking a lot of water I've probably been drinking a lot

compared to some people but not compared to what I usually drink but I try to drink at least a gallon a day but wake up drink a liter of water and then like 30 minutes later you'll have to shit for real and it's just like

dude I'd literally feel better when I chug water and then I feel even better when I shit Yeah, no, you told me... Like, it's like, like, literally, I feel like it, like, changes my brain. You told me to do that in the scuff house. Like a chemical...

Some kind of, like, chemical thing in my brain. That's where it happens. Yeah, you told me to do that in the scuff house, and I never did it. But I'm doing it now, and it... Maybe that's why I felt so good today. Because remember I was like, oh, I feel great. Yeah. And I feel shitty.

And I haven't had, like, any water. Because I woke up, and my gallon had, like, an inch left in it. And I've just been sipping. Wow. And I'm gonna last. God forbid I get to the gas station 30 seconds away. Yeah, but Jim tomorrow?

I'm down. I have to edit vision tonight. So no. So maybe late tomorrow, not tomorrow morning. Are you trying to go in the morning? Yeah. Probably not going to go in the morning. Be honest, which shit. I'm trying to...

Because whenever I go, I'm fucking going. Yeah. Every, like, I'm making my return. Yeah. I wonder how many returns. I need Jack. I wonder how many, yeah, Jack is a good one. Jack will go in the morning, because he also wants to go.

He said he's already put on weight from moving here. Because he has put on weight. Yeah. So he wants to go back. So is Jack the new PJ? No, PJ come back. I need PJ. How cool would it be?

Because the HALAT, that HALA team, has a tournament Sunday this weekend. Where? Yeah, this, like, this upcoming weekend. They have a tournament. I don't know where it is, but they don't have an org, so they're just funding themselves so that,

because every org is going to be like, oh, you have a tournament next week? So we'll take this amount of your prize money. They're going to be like, we can just go ourselves and hopefully win it. So they're probably going by themselves, which means they might go as B.T.H. How excited.

If I had signed. them. I get 20% shit. So imagine? I'm going to let them be Team Summertime and take zero percent

and let them pay for their flights. That's a good deal. Let me know, PJ, because I know you're watching this. Wait, PJ, I'll salary you guys 200 a month. What? $200 a month

I get 10% of the prize money And you get to buy your own flight Shit Let me know Let me know Tej So PTH is back I don't know if they Who knows what's going to happen there

But I'm going to be watching it I wonder how many people are just going to be watching Because of the hype How will the Halo team do X optic halo I wonder what the Or the It's going to say the commentators

will be like so used to saying optic Yeah That's what I'm saying They'll probably just say X-Optic Or actually I don't know if they can do that They'll use They'll say whatever team name they use They should just go as reality check

They might honestly troll If it's up to TJ at least Oh dude They're gonna be like rainbow butterflies or something Yeah like something like They'll just name They'll make it Their team name will just be like corporate

or something like that like that dude that's true no I can see TJ doing that but PJ PJ would just do that PJ would shake his head

that's he wouldn't he wouldn't let that happen and he's probably watching this right now smile he just know he said there like he watched this and went

yeah did the same thing low head shake uh it's funny how long is this been i can't think if it's been an hour or i can't tell either i have uh yeah it's it's close to an hour it's like 56 minutes should we do a longer one or i don't know because i how long was today's optic podcast because i felt i was like ready to try to get a word in and then it just

ended it ended not she's like what the fuck i was like preparing myself for a subject i could chime in on. Yeah. We, I think it was a 50, 50. Is that what they try to stick with?

They, yeah, Optic podcast is usually around an hour. Our podcast sometimes goes an hour and a half. It can be an hour

to 25 minutes. Yeah. Something like that. I still have to make the, the email address. I'll probably, I'll do that.

I'm going to make the email address for anybody who's interested in promoting responsibility. Say what it is right now. Well, I can't because I don't know

if it's taken. think of something that's not taken what would you want to make it the the flycast that gmail.com that's probably already taken

you think yeah who the fuck would use the flycast probably the other person that is doing the flycast on on iTunes I must like want to check

there's no way so I'm going to make the email address if you're interested in promoting or sponsoring an episode of the flycast to to hit that up and then maybe eventually we can work on that Patreon thing or something or yeah how what was that Patreon thing we wanted to do uh we're like i forgot like what it is people can subscribe uh for x number of month for x number of dollars a month

and in return uh you know the flycast we do something for them oh yeah so Like if they do $10 a month or yeah exactly yeah exactly exactly so that kind of stuff. This is way this would take way too long to see if it's taken wait create a count. You're really creating a Gmail account. Okay. I just want to see if it dude it's all right. Fuck that. It's making me put in my birthday.

I just wanted to see if it was taken because I was going to tell you to plug it. Yeah, well I'll put it in the description. I will. I'll put out of the description in at the end of the video. And that's what we'll go from there for the flycast. How are you doing on your upload schedule and life? All right. That's going to do it for the next episode of the flycast. Thank you all for watching. Outo!

Listen. I honestly don't have an answer. You have an answer. You just don't want to say it. No. Actually, I have a couple of... You fucking say your PC doesn't work. I'm going to range. I have an excuse.

I'm going to throw. I have excuses. My PC doesn't. What to? You can't say, Come back from that. You can't say my PC doesn't work. And then a month and a half later say,

sorry, guys, my PC doesn't work. It doesn't work that way. Oh, you're telling me I should have got a fix. Yes. Okay. Come back to that. Second excuse. My vlog camera broke.

It did, though. When was that? When was that? It was a month ago. That wasn't a month. Dude, it was. It was a month ago. I moved a month ago.

It was maybe three weeks. Okay. Same ordeal. And I told you I would let you borrow my camera, so you get a new one. The little tiny one. And you said no. No. Because I'm making movies when I come back.

Well, to be fair. Because I'm a DSLR. What do I call? What's like a Sony A? I think that's the one I'm going to get it. But I don't know what lens to get with it either. Just get the stock lens. It comes with a lens.

Is that a good one? Yeah. It's a good one until you need something else. But I don't even think you'll need anything else. I do. But to be fair, nobody's been vlogging. Like, what is there? No one's been living.

Yeah. No one's been like there's. It's been such a, like, so much has been going on in Optic that nobody's even said, yo, Nick's not uploading. People haven't cared. But nobody's been uploading. Besides maybe a Fortnite video. Yeah.

Because even Hex didn't. People are like, why isn't Hex uploading? Because it was just like. Like, do you think Hex wants to upload and just look at his, look at his fucking comments? And it's just like, Halo team is. Halo? It's like, God, I would hate to upload. Fuck that.

I'll donate to whatever charity. I saw his vlog the... I guess it was... Wait, what is today? He... Monday? Today was a second date? Tuesday.

Tuesday. Today's Tuesday. Okay. So his vlog that he uploaded yesterday I saw in the comments didn't even talk about the Halo team. It's just like, like...

I don't know. That is just one person, but it did have 40 upvotes. Yeah, but I don't know People always say that to me Like somebody will talk shit about me on on Reddit And it has like 50 upvotes And then I'm like people in Reddit

Do you download it? No, I don't download it I upload it 49 Because it wasn't 50 And then people People I'll say something on Twitter about it And like oh I got roasted on Reddit today

And they'll be like you saw one comment And you just decided Like yeah but that comment had like 50 people backing it The outputs are everything, man. They'll kill you. I actually agreed a lot with what Jack said today, or it's like the easiest way to get likes in our community right now

is to talk negative about something. It's to say, like, he was talking about COD. Like, the easiest way to get likes is to say, this COD was better, you know? But on Twitter? Yeah, just anything. Twitter or YouTube. Dude, that's what everything is.

Everything? Every video that's, like, popping has to do a drama. Yeah. Dude, I feel like there's so much light on negativity nowadays. I don't know. There is. It's crazy. How does, like, something awesome can happen.

Like, all this bad shit that's happened to us, even through all this, I'm, like, it's still, even though, say you look at nation and, like, views are lower. But, I mean, there's a lot of reasons with that. But still, Optic was, like, talked about so much. Yeah. And it was only because of all the negativity. Yeah, that's true. But it was still fucking talked about. Did you see Maven like basically talk directly to Richard Lewis?

Do you know who Richard Lewis is? It's like this CS commentator slash YouTuber drama guy. And Richard Lewis said something like, if you think that Ninja played with Drake, if you think that was just coincidence, like you're stupid, basically. He said something along those lines. He was like, what is, what are the odds that Ninja and Drake play together

the same day that Epic Games does something or whatever with their, oh, launches the mobile version of Fortnite? Like, what are the odds that that happens? And then, and the Maven was just like, like, what is the point of even saying that? Like, why would you even, like, regard like I am a hundred percent or not a hundred percent obviously because I don't know but I'm like

99 percent sure that that was organic it was Drake followed him on Twitter because Drake obviously plays a lot because he's fucking John Wick and then he was like I want to play with the best well he probably debaught it yeah true but he still got kills he still he wasn't like trash so he was like oh I play this game I want to play with the best and I can play with the best because I'm fucking Drake. And so he did it. And, you know, and so, Maven, like, quote, tweeting was like, what is the point of even saying that?

Like, why would anyone, who cares? Like, it's not like anybody's getting scammed for ads or it's not like anything, like they're trying to hide anything because there wasn't anything to hide to begin with. It wasn't like their managers came together. And it's like, hey, this would be good publicity for both parties involved. His wife. Jay Gossi and 40. taller dude to say

Jay ghosty and Ollie that's 40 Ollie and Drake oh yeah yeah I was trying to think of like someone that is posse yeah

but yeah I think it happened organically for sure yeah but like you said even the like what's the point of yeah like that's so negative and there's like monitor for two gets

gets like all this stuff is coming out that is probably getting remastered And I'm just like I'm hype as shit And there's so many people that are excited And there are people like Oh they're just gonna ruin monofre two The way they ruined cod for Just like shut the fuck up

Like they didn't even ruin cod for like in my opinion I don't think they ruined cod for like Wait what's which one's cod for The one that we play the the one that you played last Monofer remastered The remastered one that we played But it was the non remastered one It's cod four yeah

Okay So they like ruined cod for by making a remaster. So MWR is bad. That's what some people say. And I wasn't a fan of it, but I wasn't a fan of it for reasons that I wouldn't be a fan of cod for, if that makes sense. Like the maps and the game types and stuff like that.

Yeah, I don't know. Cod's in a weird pickle. Yeah. Because when a, what is it, World War II? Yeah. Is that out right now? Yeah. When that shit came out, I remember everyone.

Booth on the ground. Everyone is so excited. And then it comes out and it's like there is hype for like a week. And then it just... Well, also it was the worst launch in console history. Wait, what happened? Do you remember people trying to sign on for like nine hours the first day? And they couldn't.

The only reason we could, because if you bought it off the dash, you couldn't get on. The only reason we could do it on the race to prestige is because we had the disc. Oh. Do you remember? Yeah. And so people would get that weird-ass error and then people were getting ranked and people and like the servers would go offline for like five hours at a time.

It was literally, it was just as bad. Oh, I'm not as biased as you probably are, but it's just as bad as MCC. Yeah, it was bad. And PJ was telling me that he was like, he was like, this is just as bad as MCC. Because I used to play with PJ like every day. But even now, it's just like, the game is, I don't know what Cod has to do. In my opinion, because the, it's, in my opinion, it's, in my opinion, it's the maps. And that's just me, because the map, there's no map that I'm just like, holy shit.

I can't, like, it comes up on your GB, like, GB list comes up and you're like, hell yeah, I can't wait to play that. But there's not one of those. It's just kind of like, uh, everything. I don't know. and then they patched it every four days for the first three months and it was just boring and there's nothing like fun to buy like I don't know there's really like nothing now they have to now they add fucking leprechauns and how does that get like that's a type of shit where it's like if that dude was in

optic and was like hey I think a good idea would be let's throw a lepricon in and you can shoot it for pulling be like, no, no, no, no, that's not going to work. Yeah. But it's like, how does that, like, I don't know. That's how you know they do not. Esports isn't even on their radar. It's way out in the distance.

If they add that. You think? Yeah. What is? Why would they add a leprechaun? Imagine if land was going on during that. They would literally spawn in or they would have to go to, like, patch it. Can you even go back a patch?

I don't know if you can do that. Because they would have to spawn. on in and have a gentleman's agreement to run around the map and not shoot the leprechaun. And for a match for money. What the fuck? Imagine that. Fucking cod champs. It's five five.

You see a lepercon. Dude, what do you do? Cod champs in AW, somebody died to an avalanche. Really? Yeah. I'll never forget it because that was, we were like, everyone was like, first of all, don't add DLC because it's going to ruin competitive. If we add DLC

to a competitive playlist, because then people are going to have to go out and buy DLC in order to play competitively and nobody's going to do that. Enough people are going to do that. They were like, we're going to do that. So, they're like, okay? Can we at least turn off the fucking avalanche so that I don't die by some random ass thing?

They're like, no, we're going to keep that in. And then during Kod Chan. It was like finals, I think. Somebody died from the avalanche. That's crazy. I just like I don't think I don't think

Halo ever had anything like that Is there anything out Is there anything in Halo 5 like that I'm trying to think I think they just I think that just is Halo 5 Just everything Avali

A troll It's one big avalanche Hela Everything about it Hey we're gonna give you this pistol We're gonna make your aimer feel heavy as shit Maybe an assault rifle. Gonna have it melts.

Gonna be able to thrust. I wonder what it would be like for you. Like, that's what I would love to have, like, in an optic plays, just have you play a G.B. With, like, PJ, Mike, and formal. Like, imagine that. Yeah. You guys would probably win.

We'd win 100%. Yeah. But it would still be so funny. Like, just to see all, it would be PJ shitting. It'd be me just complaining. You guys, like, trying to figure it out again. Formal. somehow cheating too.

Then I'm just like, this game sucks. Like shit like that would be perfect, dude. That's the kind of stuff that people want to see. It's like weird ass like shit where we're all together. That would be fun. Yeah. It's good formal down there. Yeah.

I mean, I'd like to. They have to figure their shit out. Guys, everyone listening, go tweet formal. Say move to Frisco. Move to Frisco. Yeah, he'll love it. He loves when people do that. Yes.

You will convince him. Yeah. That's going to be it. You guys saved optics. I don't know. But isn't it? One thing that I did we'll talk about is the leak, the supposed leak that happened with Monorfer 2 remastered, is, how are you sitting that way? I thought you were acting bored.

No. Oh. I'm just resting my chin. So the supposed leak is that it's going to come out the 30th of April because it went on Amazon, the official Italian Amazon, and it was you could pre-order MonoRefer 2 remastered. And everybody was like, what the fuck? And it was by Blizzard or Activision Blizzard. So people were like, it's legit. It's got to be.

And it like went live before it was supposed to. That's the only reason I'm letting myself get any kind of hope built up. So, and the crazy thing is, is it's set to release April 30th, and it's only supposed to be $30. So that, it's the first time in Cod history that it hasn't come out in the fall. Like, it usually comes out in August. But they're like, guys, we need something. We need something because Fortnite is kicking our ass. I think that's how.

It's just kicking everyone's going. Everyone's ass. I think that's how. But it also brought, I think it, like, brought something to esports or. The gaming. Gaming community. Yeah. Oh, for sure.

I mean, it definitely brought something to the gaming community. Like, more people are on Twitch now than. People are literally already famous from Fortnite. Like, I had no, like, what did myth? I was asking someone this yesterday. What was myth doing before Fortnite? He was a. TSM Pro for the

Moba that Epic made. It was called like Paragon or something. The only reason I know this because I literally looked it up. I went to his YouTube channel and clicked like just scrolled down until Fortnite was not there. And he played Paragon which was like the Moba for

Epic. And Epic doesn't even, they canceled the whole game. Like that game's not even out anymore. So he went to Fortnite. Same developer, same engine. He's used to the engine. and he just picks up Fortnite and becomes a legend.

Man, I wish I was playing from the beginning. Fuck. Dude, I'm tired of fucking being late. Imagine if Damon never quit. Damon was playing it before anybody. Before Ninja, before myth, before anybody. Damn. He was playing it, and I was like,

what the hell is that game? And I was like, I've heard of Fortnite, but I didn't know it was like a BR game. Seth played it too. Did he? Yeah, yeah. Well, he played it at the Scuff House. Did he?

Yeah. He played it with Jack at the Scuff House. And that's when Fortnite started picking up. And Ninja was already playing at that time. I remember Seth, for some reason, first time in forever was watching one of his YouTube videos. And he said that he used to play a long time ago. And back when he played, like, people, like, didn't really build. Yeah.

And I was like, what the fuck? Damon would build a ramp and go up and heglitch it and kill everyone because nobody built. That's weird. Yeah. he was like I literally would win every game because I would build a ramp and then kill the person I wonder if that because people

I'm sure karma is nasty at it but I wonder if he if he would have adjusted if people are considering that nasty yeah like because he played back then and it was probably like so much easier to shit on news like do people think you you were good at Halo because you were

good like nine years ago like 12 years ago so that wasn't a good comparison Anyways. I'm a Fortnite guy. You are. And that's the infuriating part. I'm good sometimes. That's what pisses me off is that I know how good you are and nobody else does.

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Well, it's just, with Fortnite, it's fucking weird because, well, the reason, I've gotten good when during the time, which I should have got fixed. Or I should get fixed. But now it's like,

do I even need it fixed? Because it works now. For some fucking reason, my PC work just started, when I record it, no longer lag, starting two days ago. Dude, mine used to do that too.

But whenever I started like doing the live comms and shit, and live Comniac was about to start, like that's when it's like started fucking up. Yeah. Those were your best videos. I used to watch all of those. Yeah. I remember after I made one first one,

you were like, dude, it's so fucking good. Yeah. I was literally like you have to do that. Yeah. But right then is when my shit started lagging. Yeah. And then I would do it like the lowest bit rate possible 30 fps and i'd look at it and it just looked like a fucking potato i was like i can't upload

this but i don't know the point of what the fuck we're talking about but yeah i've been playing like people uh people should i should have gameplays up but like my shit was this yeah my computer is trash and i couldn't record and play without it just being like choppy as fuck and when i when I did, it looked like a potato. My issue, like I can't upload this. My issue with Fortnite right now, which was actually brought to my attention by Big T because we were playing one of those like optic plays.

And he was just like, dude, I can't, I don't, I can't even stand uploading Fortnite anymore. Because nobody wants to watch you unless you're ninja or myth. And it's so true. Because people will watch, people will watch Jack. people watch jack's like pretty good though yeah no jack's good but i don't think people i don't think people would be as excited to watch jack play solos if you play solos you have to be ninja or myth and that's that's what i do that's why it's solos yeah it's not like fun or it's fun for me but i'll have games where

well first off fortnight's like if i had a fucking editor or something or which I don't know who the fuck would but say I'm like recording or just playing off stream for like four hours yeah and but I only had like one good win people don't well most of the time when I'm playing four nights like get like seven pretty good kills until it leave maybe get like one or two and then it die yeah so it's like there's just so much so many hours into that game that aren't upload worthy unless you're ninja or

you're making a live cut. I'm like literally waiting to get a 20 plus kill win to upload because it's like I'm not going to upload 17 kill win because I mean I could but it's not like I get what you're saying it's just boring.

Yeah. Like even with the squads I don't know if I told you earlier but I was playing squad. Yeah, and we got like a 43 kill squad win. But from my point of view, it's just like, yeah. Like when I play with them, they fucking just fly people. Yeah. And I'm like in the back, phew, phew, phew.

But so like from my point of view, it's not like that. Yeah. Fun. Like if I would, if I uploaded that or why did I say uploaded weird? If I uploaded that, I would expect to see a comment like, why the fuck? Did you off with this? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Almost like that.

I have some videos out there like that. Just like... That is something I want to do though, which I want to like return to streaming and get like a Fortnite squad, kind of like M fan. Yeah. Because I do play with good people. Like they're better than me. Yeah. Though the guys you play with like I play with them too every once in a while and I played like a lot of cod with them.

They're super funny. Yeah. And they literally play all the time. Like they play whatever. It's fucking like, I like kind of fuck with them too. I'll just be like, do you ever get off? Yeah, like literally, uh, I was, I pulled an all-nighter the other night. And I was on Fortnite at 11.

And Markey woke up at 11 p.m. And then we literally played into like, not like just straight playing, but like we were in the team speak to like literally 2 p.m. the next day. And then he went back to sleep. So he like he literally woke up. I don't even know if he's showered, but it's like he just wakes up, joins teams speak. Fortnite, Fortnite, Fortnite, Fortnite, Fortnite, Fortnite, 4-9, 4-9, 4-9, 4-9, 4-9, 4-9, 4-9, 4-9, sleep. And the crazy thing about that whole squad is, like, they've been friends for a really long time and they're hilarious.

Yeah. They're all so funny. like Marky Whiz Like you guys probably don't even know who we're talking about Marky Whizkay Austin Like Danny Day Day Day Josh Riley Like they're all

They all like talk together And they're all Like That's why I think like You could do it with that squad Yeah Because some people like Because like that's what I did with Blake and George

Like people People will attach themselves to people Like the streamers friends If the streamers friends Are like hilarious The same way if like vloggers friends Are hilarious like Or like entertainment

And I think you could do it with that with that squad. So I think you should try. And it'd be enjoyable because usually I like streaming solos. Like I hated streaming and playing with like, hex bows and, you know, someone. Because it's like we just lands, fucking fatal field. Exactly.

Yeah. Six kill win total as a squad. I feel that way too. The most boring games ever. But I feel like if I streamed with these guys, in like the chat knew we were like going for like high kill wins yeah then it'd be entertaining yeah and just because just because you're on optic together doesn't mean you have any chemistry like trying to play cod with like other people like in optic sometimes unless it was

like yeah unless it was like bows because bows is really good regardless like at s and d like it doesn't mean like me you scump and george tried to play monor try to play monomer firm mastered and get one wager kill. We're playing with Wait, say that again? Me, you. Or I guess that's not the proper grammar. Skump, George, you and myself, or I, played Mono Warfare Remastered Wagers

for like eight hours trying to get one win, and we never got a win. Do you remember that? We never got a win. I remember playing with Scump. And George George was like dropping eight kills and like carrying us and he's like, we're just like, That just goes to show.

Just because somebody's good, just because we're all in optic together, you know, minus George. And people are good at the game. Doesn't mean that chemistry is going to be there. So it's like everybody, how many times do you get spanned? Playing with big timer. It's like just because you're playing with big timer doesn't mean anything crazy is going to happen. Yeah.

Like big timers is his funniest whenever he's in his own element and in control of everything. And like, like I don't think, I don't know how funny he would be. Like he's funny when he's doing livecoms. He's funny when he's funny when he's talking to nature. shot because they've been friends for 300 years. But I don't know if he'd be, like, I don't know how it would be kind of weird if he did do it with like you or I. Like just for personal channel stuff.

That's more like optic nation channel stuff in my opinion. Yeah, I feel that. Like, I don't think, I wouldn't be funny. When am I my funniest? I don't know. I know, but I know I wouldn't be funny if I'm like, join fucking ninja, Tim the Tatman and fucking

CDN the third or whatever there's a certain I don't know I get that's how I am I don't know what element I don't know when I'm my funniest

and the crazy thing is by myself maybe I think that's why I think there's like some sort of I don't know it shows that we don't it shows that we don't take the easy way out

obviously we don't take the easy way out because you don't upload and I don't either. We just do the flycast and I do donations. I wanted the easy way out. I could just. You could hit up any of your friends. You could hit up, you could DM Doc. You could, you know, that would be the easy way out.

I did play with Doc the other day. Not the other day. It was, who wasn't me, Doc and Jack, I think. Was it fun? But even with them, maybe if I play with them more, but it was, like, I just find myself just laughing at Doc. Yeah.

When I play with them. Like, I literally just like, I like just turning around and like just watching him walk. I'm just because I know that character is fucking doctor disrespect. And he's just fucking walking. I don't know. How weird was it watching the ninja Drake stream? And we were just look at that John Wick and be like, that is fucking Drake. Like, that's not.

Like, dude. Drake. I remember we. For anyone that doesn't know, when Ninja was playing with Drake, we had people that live around us with an optic come over to our house. You came over. Midnight came over. Sam, Jack. Gilbert was there.

But yeah, we had people over watching Ninja Stream. And, like, it was, like, so pathetic almost how we were. We were like, ninja said a joke Ninja set a joke and Drake was like Ha ha ha. And we were like, Ninja made Drake laugh. We really were. Every time Drake got a, we didn't care if ninja

built to the ceiling and killed someone. The second Drake got a pooh, pooh, poop, we were like, let's go. And then that one time Ninja clutched to win. We like freaked out. Like, that shit was sick. Like,

it was weird. Like, just knowing it's Drake. It was weird That was crazy And the fact that it was epic That's a fucking moment in history Yeah That's probably like the second coolest

Moment on Twitch that I've ever What's the first? Did you ever hear of Twitch plays Pokemon? Uh-uh So Wait, yeah Yeah Wait when like

You like type in chat To move the character To move the character They ended up winning the game Really? Dude That's crazy I was

So Why don't they do that again. Because it lost its hype. There were literally, it was like the first dream I'd ever seen with 150,000 people in it. Damn. It was the first stream ever that I ever saw that. And I was just like, what? And it was just like, spammy. Did you type? No, I never typed. I just watched. I was like, why would you even watch? Because it was just like, it was just a guy moving once every five seconds. But it's like funny. But it's just like, oh my God. And then like, like the, there was like a subreddit too. I can't believe they won. Yeah. How long did that? They.

caught Zap. They caught Zapdos, which is hard to do in general. And they caught, they managed to go to Zapdos. That was the moment. I was, I was watching like, what the fuck? They went to Zapdos, clicked on him. They get into a fight with him, somehow go to their bag, go all the way down to Masterball. Click. The Masterball is a one, like, you catch whatever you throw. Go down, they click it, and then they click use, and they throw it, and the chat went crazy. That's funny. But then, in order to get, because there was so many, all their Pokemon were filled up. So it went to the PC. So, and also the PC is where you can throw Pokemon away forever and never get them back. So they went to the PC. Somehow made it all the way to the PC to get Zaptos out of the PC and put it in their inventory

or their actual Pokemon. And in the middle of that, they would go down to a race and then they would just start chucking away Pokemon. So then it became like a meme where they were like, rest in peace, they all had names because, and their names were all jumbled because it was just like, you know, it was just characters of whatever. So they'd be like, rest in peace, like 20 different Pokemon. And then you'd wake up to like memes of like it was called like Bloody Sunday. And it was also crazy because if anything happened from like 1 a.m. to like 5 a.m. our time, it was the Europeans that were controlling it. So then there became like a North American versus European wars.

And so the North Americans would wake up and like half the Pokemon would be gone. And they'd be like, what did the Brits do this time? Dude, it was the coolest. That was the hypeest I'd ever been on Twitch. I remember that happening. But I didn't really know shit about it. Yeah. Never really watched it.

Yeah. But like would they, how would he literally only move a step? Yeah. He would move. He would move a step every. It was like every five seconds or something like that. I don't know. But like how many steps?

How, what would you have to type to get him to like move left? Uh, are. Are you, I think, I think, or maybe it was the arrows. I can't remember. I can't remember. That's crazy that you can set it up like that. A, B. Dude, it was.

How do you set that up? Or no, it was right. You just typed right left, right left, up down. And then A, B. And then start, select. So those were the, those are it. And that's the only way they could do it is because it was a Game Boy game.

Damn. Dude, but, and then, like, subreddit, like, so, you know how in Pokemon, like, you'd get a, you get a Pidgee at the very beginning of the game. That's, like, all you found. And so, like, everyone, when they were a kid, they just caught the Pidgee, and then they just made an insane Pidgeeot.

Like, they just had, like, a level 100 Pigeot. So that's what they did in this game. So they called it Bird Jesus. So everybody, like, it would kill everything with, like, a tackle. Really? Because it was so high-ranked, like, Oh, did they only use like one Pokemon? Well, it's because they, they couldn't, they couldn't like every time they tried to switch,

like they couldn't like switch it. So it was just the first Pokemon to spot in and they would just kill it and it would just rank up. So they called it Bird Jesus. And I went, I was at state, I was going to NC State at the time. And there's this big tunnel where people can graffiti at, like Legally Graffiti. And I walked by it and there's a huge portrait of a Pidgeeot. And it said, we love Bird. Jesus. And at that point, I was like, this shit is crazy. And you got to think about it.

So, 150,000, 100,000 people all the time. And that's people coming in and out of the stream. It's probably 500 to 700,000 people watching or knowing what it is. So that's a lot of fucking people. Like, that's a lot of people. Like, people all over the world are going to know about it. How many viewers did, uh, Ninja have total? Like, like at its peak. I think it hit five I think it was more than that I don't even know we weren't even looking at the

at the thing so I don't know maybe six were we looking at chat could we see chat? We were looking at chat at all we're just watching the chat was probably hilarious probably was

especially apparently when who did ninja invite before um Kim.com and apparently everybody hated Kim dot com we didn't even know

Oh, because we weren't looking at chat, but he would say stuff. And apparently, like, chat hated it whenever he talked. Dude, they were probably so funny. They're so funny sometimes. Oh, they are. They're fucking trolls. Like, people think of the funniest shit. Dude, I was streaming this game, and it's just like a first person, like, story game.

With the little dick. Yeah, yeah, that game. Yeah. I was streaming that game. And at one point, you pick up a fishing rod. And I was trying to figure out a cast it. Turns out you can't even cast it. And I accidentally hit the wrong button.

And I was sitting in the pond and just threw the whole thing. And I look over at the first person in chat and says, that is not the correct way to fish. I just like lost. I don't know why it was so funny to me. That shit is funny. Because then I just pictured people just throwing their rods. I don't know.

People in Twitch are so funny. Yeah. Same with like Twitter fucking. fucking just memes I saw someone tweet is it just me or memes not like they used to be

memes I don't know just saying like memes suck now and like memes are at an all time fucking high right now they are like that's like

half of Twitter is fucking that's like half it's about to be half of my fucking tweets anymore just like sarcastic yeah Like, I never tweet anymore, like, ah, that steak was so good.

Like, it's always just, like, troll. Yeah. Every tweet's a fucking troll now. It really is. It's all about, like, for me, it's all about, like, oh, will this tweet do good? Yeah. And, like, I know. What do you mean?

Because you have to always add, like, a little controversy, but, like, what? Well, I'm just thinking of your fucking call-duty tweets from the blackout. Oh, that shit. Yeah, yeah. I do that, too. I get I get people riled up

I do that on purpose though But I know But I also like tweet I try to make some like funny tweets Like pop too Like the tweet today Where the guys flipping through the book And sees the penis

And I was that It's just like the intro to the story It was like a weird way to set up the story I could never play One of those games you could I really think you could Maybe not that one I thought we could actually

I think you would like a game called The Last of Us. And I think one day, I think your subscribers would go nuts to watch you play that game. I really think they will. I think one day there's going to be a really there's going to be a really good game that like fits my

personality to where it's just like super enjoyable to like play and watch. Like some kind of like chill game that like matches my sense of humor, I guess. Okay. If that makes sense. I need a game like that. I was thinking Grand Theft Auto.

I always thought that would kind of do it. Yeah, I think you'd be... Same with Bose. Like, I would want to play with Bose on Grand Theft Auto. Yeah. Like, because it's kind of like

that game we... What's it called? Gang Beast? Gang beast, yeah. Gang beast? Like playing that. It's like Bose playing that. Yeah. Ting, ding, ting.

Tink, tink. Dude, Bose is so funny. Punching and shit. That shit's funny. Yeah. Yeah, I think you should, I think, I think you should like make yourself, like, like, whenever you start streaming again or something, like, if I hit 200,000 subs. 200,000, I mean, it's possible, I guess. If I hit 2,000 subs, then I'll play The Last of Us in one sitting.

It's like a 10-hour game. I don't know if people, I don't know. Maybe they would. I think I, because you've never played it. So people, I think people would like, like to watch you play it. especially since like you would say like say a little witty and funny stuff or like until dawn talk to chat and shit i wonder would you play a horror game i just feel like i would have i think i would but i wouldn't be the like typical horror yeah i mean of course someone probably just

got scared i don't know if that was loud but i don't know i think i would like know a way to make it my own yeah if that makes sense Like I would just be like, like, hey, jump out. And I'd just be like, oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just, it would be funny like that. Yeah. I think you would like, I think you would like until, because you've never seen anything.

That's the thing with you is that you can't really, like, all these games have been played so many times. But I know there's no way you've either played them or watched anybody play them. So until dawn and the last of us, I think, I think your chat would, like, if you were like, if you tweeted out, I'm playing until dawn for the first time, people would be like, what the fuck? Yeah, I was playing fucking, uh, do you remember, was it you who came into my room at, um,

the scuff house with hex? And I was playing like, who wants to be a millionaire? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was playing that up. And,

yeah, like, they liked that. And then, um, what was this other game I was playing? It was, I forget.

It was like, it would show a picture. And then, A higher lower. Yeah, yeah. Shit like that. One time you went to like go get food and me and Brandon, Brandon was over at the scuff house and we played higher or lower with your chat.

Really? Yeah. And like it was the first time Brandon ever been on, like he never, he didn't know what streaming was. And I was like, hire, lower chat, hire lower chat. And then I would pick somebody out and I would say he said hire. So if he's right, praise him. If not, just roast him. I would get people shit on in my chat.

And then so we got like a seven. streak and I was like this one Brandon's doing it. And Brandon was like, I want to do it. And then he said higher. And I clicked it. And it was like lower. And I was like, fuck you, Brandon. Yeah. That's what's so funny.

Yeah. Dude. So funny. It's so, it's so cool and like funny when like everyone knows it's like cool and funny. Yeah. But then there's just fucking the negative. Yeah. The actual

the shitters. Yeah. But it's definitely a cool. Because I like my little Twitch family. I feel like I know them more than like my YouTube family. Well, I think everyone does because you're constantly interacting. Actually talking

to them rather than. Yeah, I enjoy. I enjoy streaming. I wish I had more time to do it. I think whenever, dude, we haven't even talked about it. I think whenever Monofer 2 comes out, Mono4 2 remastered, if it does come out, I think I'm going to stream a shit ton.

Because people, there's already like so much. I'm sure you are. There's already like so much. Like people like there's monorfer two. There's a cloud of around me that is monorephor for two. I threw two throwback streams or throwback tournaments. I mean, that's what I think of. Yeah, exactly.

Like people, I'm not saying I'm the best at it. I'm just saying like people think monitor for two, hitch. They love each other. But one thing I haven't talked about is I'm fucking texting riffraff. Oh yeah. And how are you? late into the podcast, but I guess it's time to talk about it. Yeah. You wanted to get that off your chest.

Yeah, I almost forgot. Yeah, so a bunch of people were tagging me while I was streaming. They were talking to me and they were like, hey, just so you know, Riff Raff just tweeted some shit. And it was crazy because I talked with you about it in the Flycast. Like we had said like, if you could talk to anyone, who would it be? And you were like, it's not Riff Raff. And I was like, I promise you was RIFR.

I'm like, my would be like George Bush or. Hitler. Yeah. Just because they know like some crazy intel. What's yours? Riff, Raff. But,

yeah, it's crazy that he tweeted out, he wanted to create a videographer, and everybody started, or a lot of people started tagging me. And then I tweeted, let me know. And then he said,

DM me, so I DM him. He said, give me your number. And then, so he turns out he, he wants to get involved in, like,

streaming and uploading and doing stuff like that. so and he even said he was like it's crazy what people he said it's crazy what people like ninja and doctor disrespect have done i was like damn riffraff knows these people but then i was like well drake knows these people so obviously everybody's got to know him now if you're like into video games at all yeah really and i was like so what do you play he was like nothing i was like damn i got a lot of work cut out for me i was like but he is i mean you put a camera on that guy from every time i've seen him on camera he's going to be as entertaining as you can possibly be as a human being.

I haven't like, I think, I follow him on Instagram, but I haven't seen like any, I don't know what the, I know he is a rapper, but I don't know like what he does. If he does like video, any video type stuff. Yeah. Oh, he's, he is, I mean, obviously he's a rapper first and foremost, but he also does like, just like a lot of like special guest stuff because he's just like a ball of energy of, craziness. I just knew

like Soldier Boy like before like he would like randomly stream and like he'd like talk about video games and for real? Yeah. Soldier Boy was like the first rapper into

e-sports really. This was like fucking what year was it? Oh yeah yeah Soldier Boy gaming. This might have been like 2010 where he came to an event. Yeah and Bose played with him. Dude how does Bose do it? I don't know

I think he's just Dick riding Lerkey Just like he's always Right But I mean If you like If you like

Getting situated If you like If you like fuck with Like Because he just played with La Mello ball Yeah And it's like

I want to play with La Mello ball But I just won't Tweet La Mello ball And like Maybe Maybe he just like Follows

Maybe he just Follows people And then waits for them To follow back And they'll DM him Because I don't see him tweeting at people. Yeah.

Maybe, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how he does it. I was good as fuck at like marketing or networking. Networking. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah. Yesterday he was like we were playing.

It was me, Pimage, Bose and Jukin. Yeah. And Bose DiMia was like, hey, LeBron James' son wants to play if we want to go play with him. Damn. That's like, so I played with APG and ACE instead. I actually did, though. Yeah.

But that was because I told them literally an hour before to get on. Yeah. I wasn't going to. I didn't really care. But yeah. So right now Aaron and I are working on like setting up his Twitch and YouTube and What, River Ave? Yeah.

Wait, so like, are you doing this? Yeah. Did he say like what the pay would be and stuff? No, he said, he said we're going to talk about that. He's on tour right now, so he's like, I'll fly you out to one of my shows. And there's also a show on Thursday if you want to go in Dallas. Wait, are you going to go? Yeah.

Yeah. What the hell? Yeah. So if you want to go. What if it's just like, I don't know, do you know what you're getting yourself into? Or you just like, like, kind of, I'm not like jumping head first into it. I'm just going to say, because a lot of things with like celebrities is, I think, I think in their mind they think they're gonna come to Twitch or come to YouTube and just like blow up but

it's like that's not how it is like look at will Smith is vlogging and they're getting like a million views whereas other people are vlogging and they're getting like you know Logan Paul's vlogging is getting three million is real Smith vlogging yeah he vlogs saw like one video but I didn't know if he vlogs like once a month week he maniacs yeah okay I knew I was the will smith of and then like optic dead mouse streams on Twitch, but he streams under music and he only gets a certain amount. And Lil Yaddy and Post Malone, they've all tried to stream and they don't get like crazy viewers. So like that's got to like I'm prepping myself to tell him that.

And I feel like post Malone like I could literally no offense, but I could see riffraff streaming and getting like 200 viewers. Yeah. I mean that's that's like you're not getting rich off that. Yeah. Or you're not. It's not going to be like please God. do not quit your day job because your day job is fucking good you're a rapper you're a rapper

and everyone knows who you are but no that's what that's what i like i think there is a way to do it and i'm glad he hit me up because i feel like some people would just be like yo go out and play this and people will watch it but in reality people probably aren't going to watch it unless you like you like mold it a certain way it's like riffraff tries fortnight question mark the thumbnail's dope and then he's either doing it by himself and like acting crazy or like it's like the same thing with fucking moving here like people would want to like it just has to be executed right yeah exactly that's what and that's what i'm trying to do and he's uh like from his text he was like yo should should we tweet out my uh should we tweet out my twitch channel so people can start following i was like

not, no, no, I was like, let's announce with a video, a video of you. And then let's have like your Twitch page set up prior to people following. And he was like, yo, good idea. I was like, thanks for a rap. Yo, good idea. But no, he's, he's, um, wait, so you're going to the show Thursday? I mean, I still have to, I'm going to text him tomorrow when it, because I want to, I want to have, I want to show him something before I just say, yo, can we come to the show? And I said, I said, yo,

me and some of, uh, me and some of my guys that do this on a regular basis live in Dallas. So like, maybe we could talk there about like content and stuff. He was like, yeah, it sounds like a plan,

set it up. All right. So do you want to go to a refreff show? Thursday? Yeah. That'd be fun. Same. All right.

I texted you like, crowd he gets. Probably a very not sober crowd. People are going to be fucked up. Yeah. He's probably. going to be. But like,

I don't know. Now that I think of it, I've never sat there and like listen to riffraff. Yeah. You have it? Like, do people sit there

and listen to riffraff? I don't know if just like, bang his album. Like, I don't know. Does he have an album? Yeah, he has plenty albums.

He has mixtapes. He has thousands of mixtapes, I think. I better look on Spotify. I see if you've, you never heard of Dolshan Cabana? But I think that's like the only, it's like,

like songs like that is like all I know of him riffraff oh he's got a mix tape out I'm telling you like he's got way too many I want to please don't get like copyrights I'm not I just want to hear 18 million views I just want to hear one it's like that's not him is it that's not him is it no that wasn't riffraff wait that's not riffraff either what that might have been He has like so many features on everything. Yeah, he's he is like a feature artist. Is that him? That's not him either.

That's him. That's what I'm saying like that's riff bubble gum blue. That's what I'm saying like he could do it. Like out of anybody because people aren't going to take him too seriously. Like he could people are going to watch him be entertaining regardless of what he does because he does the craziest shit. So that's why I think there's room for it. I think we can do it. And I hope that.

But regardless, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not. not gonna I'm just gonna tell him like you know I can't like relocate or anything like but I can I mean like trust me like because he just signed with Twitch or he just partnered with Twitch and G Fuel so that's crazy G fuel landed River F all right it fits him like perfectly yeah it does he needs to have his own flavor like ASAP like a like a purple now what's a purple palace he has he always uses some kind of like slang pink Panther no Why am I on my phone I don't know

But people on the SoundCloud right now are hating you Why? Because they can't see you They don't know what you're doing So it just gets silent Yeah but I'm kind of talking While doing it

Riff Rack Jody Hyatt He always says some kind of I don't know what you're talking about Do you follow him on Instagram? Not on Instagram Oh that's why He calls him

He calls himself Riff Raff Jody Highroller pink panther the he has a picture on his Instagram of him in a tanning bed and just this

tanning Tatum he's funny yeah what I'm saying like who knows what'll come out of it but it's just it's cool that

this whole like I don't know it's cool that like the fan baser that my Twitter followers are like cool enough to like tag me and stuff like that

like showing love and stuff and it's cool that he didn't want like a videographer. Like he wanted somebody that weirdly enough does exactly what I do. He wants somebody that organizes his content.

Like, I could do that. I couldn't, if he wanted like a 3D, like if he wanted trippy ass videos every day, no, I couldn't do that. Because I don't know that much about editing. Like I can edit basic stuff, but I can't like build 3D models

and shit like that. That would be interesting to see what. see what goes out of that. It's like a little project. Yeah. But hopefully, hopefully hopefully he's responsive to the... Getting the stew

with him. Imagine. Dude. And I feel like, I feel like that's what's going to gear towards because right now he sees dollar signs with ninja and doctor's respect. I'm just like, dude, that's I'm just going to be like, that's not, like, unless you're willing to sit down

for 12 hours a day and play while you're touring like no it's not going to happen but i feel like youtube is where you can pop yeah especially and gaming i don't know i don't know what you're going to do we'll see it's a task but i'm excited i'm excited i'm excited i wish you'd like and even and right now he's still he texts just like he tweets so right now if he is and obviously i will never say the truth even if he is just a normal guy like behind the like with a character I mean I'm sure it's

it's him but it's just like he knows when to exaggerate when yeah yeah like he's just like having fun with it yeah oh he's for sure but I was just you know in a perfect

in a perfect world you just like get behind and he's like there's no cameras on yeah but people just don't know this weird conspiracy theory that you had for riffraff well it's been in my head for

I made that Reddit post like, what, five years ago? Jeez. So, like, it's weird. And it's weird that it's coming full circle. That's like me and Hollow to Don. Yeah, it is. I don't think I've mentioned this on the podcast, have I? Yeah, you have.

Okay. But, yeah, like, my favorite battle rapper that I used to watch literally 10 years ago. Yeah. Like, hit me up about, like, hey, like, how does, kind of like, how does his YouTube shit work? Yeah. Dude, we should get him on the fly. That wouldn't be a good first guess Hollow?

It would for me That's all that matters We don't need to Yeah but like people wouldn't I'm not saying I would do I do it for like the people Like I would I'm not saying I want to get someone

That people would Like really want to see But I mean I would like Like when we start Just not as the first Is what I'm trying to say Okay

I would like to have people like that As a guess If you get if you anyone in this world But I feel like as a Anyone possible Who would who would it be? Drake I said possible

I guess he's possible now Because the ninja thing I don't know Because Drake doesn't do interviews or podcast Or shit Like perfect first guess Allo the dawn Howl the dawn

I don't think The gaming community is not like into In my opinion little dicky would be the best first guess dude he that shit would the flow there good one that flow there would be perfect between the three of us like we all like rap

we're all I'm a goofy white kid you're a we know out of rhyme multi-syllables yeah exactly dude I would you probably wouldn't even talk I would be asking him so many questions but that's my dream is to get little dicky on the on the fly cast

yeah I don't know who my would be We just don't want... I feel like we do not need. We don't need no guess. We don't need a guess. People don't like get Jack on. It would be cool. But I mean like, well,

I don't know, that's like the optic podcast. Exactly. Like I don't, I don't want opt. And Beau said something about it. I don't want optic. Yeah.

I guess like no optic members. I don't want gaming. Unless it's like Justine or like PewDie Pie. Yeah. I like Justine. What? I would like Justine on here. Justine would be cool, especially since I don't really know anything.

I don't know much about her, so I wouldn't have, it would just be like a regular talk. Yeah, same. I feel like that would be the case with anyone. Yeah. I'd just be like. Or like weird, like weird gaming. Like, I wouldn't say Zoe Burger, but like Celestea Vega. Yeah.

That would be a good guest. Yeah. That would be a good guess for sure. That would we could set up. We could get that shit done. Dude, that would be a good. That was going to be a guest, yeah. Wait, what happened?

Didn't it? She didn't go. Oh, yeah, she didn't go. And Hex didn't bring the equipment anyway, so we couldn't have done it. But yeah, that was going to be our first guest. That was going to be our first guest. That was going to be our first guest like a year ago. Wait, exactly a year ago.

What do you mean exactly? It was at CWL Atlanta last, or ILGA. Holy shit. A year ago. The Flycast is like a year old. Damn. And we've done 14 episodes. Uh-uh.

but it's popping now it is it's growing it's growing we just have to do it yeah i say we do because we technically didn't do one last week i'm gotta do we can do we can even buy we because i feel like today was all like well it was still just like fortnight and shit yeah we need just i don't know not i think i think um well we've talked a lot about the people are going to be really It's just been so, it's been, yeah, it's just, yeah, whenever shit like that does happen, we do. I think, I mean, I'm down, if you, if you want to do it, I, I'm down to do the Flycast biweekly. Like, if you want to do Monday Friday, or I don't know when you upload. Isn't biweekly every other week?

Shit, yeah, it is. So, do you didn't mean biweekly? I didn't mean by, wait, biweekly, bi-monthly is every, no, bi-monthly is twice a month. So biweekly is twice a week. I think... No, biweekly is every other week, I think. We will see. I think you might be right.

I don't know. I think. By week. Yeah, you're right. Byweekly, every two weeks. What the fuck? So twice a week. I don't know how to say that.

Yeah. That works. Weekly. What the hell? Byweekly. Yeah. I don't know about every week, but this week. I feel like every week.

You think we could, though? Because I feel... Like, I have yet to talk to somebody that dislikes it. Same. But I feel like we're on, like, a good... Radio shows, like, they do it every morning. Yeah. So, some podcasts do it every day.

Every day? Yeah, some podcasts are every day. The fuck do they talk about? The same thing morning TV... The morning radio shows talk about every day. So they just use everyone else for news? what or they i mean they just steal what's happening and everyone else's life that's true that's the i guess that's the difference between our podcast yeah but i also we started the we

started the we started the flycast to talk about our like not our beliefs but like our thoughts on different things yeah that's what we haven't we we haven't even like we haven't even like got dope into like we've only covered it was only like the basics of optic and yeah what's going on. Yeah, we've only had like one flycast ever where we like dove into stuff. Started talking about like religion and smoking and shit. Yeah.

Yeah, we haven't even gotten to that point yet. Eventually. Yeah, that's maybe if we, I don't know. What do you guys think? Let us know in the comments. Buy weekly. Once a week. Or Jesus.

Twice a week, once a week. How would you like it? If we do it twice a week, we probably need someone to help sponsor or promote. by looking into the description below and sending an email there's going to be an email in the description below the same guy's going to

email, hey, me again I didn't even read his last email I feel better but yes, let us know and we will actually I want to say just in case this person's listening I saw

someone what he tweet or a YouTube comment and he was making fun of the fact that we did it in an auditorium. Yeah. I was like, how are you, you're complaining about where a podcast is being recorded at. What the fuck are you watching? Like what?

Yeah, I want a cool room because that's cool, I guess. Yeah. It would be dope to have like a cool podcast room, which we don't have for now, but it's like, who the fuck care? Like, he was like genuinely. like he said it was like you guys are recording in an auditorium honestly this is just fucking embarrassing at this point and I'm just like what the fuck is wrong with you

like you have so many issues way deeper than what we could talk about but yeah I do want a fucking podcast room though yeah no we don't mean that's one thing that we're we finally are looking into a space and they said we could set up the flycast there so what you want this the meeting we had about getting a space.

Oh. Was that going to be, uh, well, yeah. It's going to be an optic content place. Yeah. We can do the flycaste.

Hopefully it's in the near future. That would be so dope to not have to take this from our apartment, set it up every time. Flying fucking something. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. The yon happens. So that's it.

It's late night. That's it for the flycast. That's going to do it. Uh, I love you guys. I have a question now What is your question, boo? Do we have outro music?